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A
B
A
A
I
just
wanted
to
ask
that
we
take
a
moment
to
recognize
that
it
was
one
year
ago
this
week
that
commissioner
mike
fryer
passed
away,
and
commissioner
fryer
was
a
person
who
served
along
with
many
of
us
on
the
county
commission
and
was
very
involved
in
work
in
this
community
for
for
many
years,
including
his
service
on
the
county
commission.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
for
a
moment
of
silence
to
remember
the
life
and
contributions
of
mike
fryer
and
to
have
a
moment
to
remember
him
and
his
family.
A
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
today,
there
being
none
all
board.
Members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
any
matters
voted
on
by
this
board.
At
this
meeting,
all
right
we
come
to
the
consent
agenda
in
the
consideration
of
the
agenda
that
will
follow
for
the
meeting.
There
are
a
couple
of
items
we
need
to
adjust.
A
The
first
is
to
add
the
consideration
of
the
department
of
transportation
planning
work
or
the
proposed
interchange
on
I-26
to
the
consent
agenda.
The
staff
circulated
a
memo
on
this
item
before
the
meeting
commission
I
mean
michael
free.
Could
you
just
briefly
state
a
description
of
this
item
that
we're
going
to
add
to
the
consent
agenda.
C
Yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
commissioners,
the
department
of
transportation
is
spearheading
on
behalf
of
state
economic
development
officials
in
the
department
of
transportation
planning
and
planning
for,
and
construction
of,
a
new
interstate
exit
and
interchange
on
I-26
to
be
located
at
it'll,
be
called
exit.
35.,
it's
roughly
halfway
between
the
old
biltmore
square
mall
and
the
blue
ridge.
Parkway
headed
south
toward
the
airport,
would
be
the
location
in
order
to
release
funding
dot
standards
require
that
the
local
board
of
commissioners
consent
and
do
a
resolution
to
consent
to
the
project.
A
A
The
other
item
I
wanted
to
request
that
we
adjust
on
the
agenda
is
to
move
our
public
hearings
on
the
emergency
paid
sick
leave
policy
ahead
of
presentations
on
the
agenda.
So
it
would
immediately
follow
public
comment.
A
E
F
E
Sorry
I
was
on
twice
yes,
my
name
is
brooke
heaton,
I'm
a
resident
here
in
west
asheville.
I
wanted
to
just
comment
quickly
on
two
issues.
One
is
regarding
the
proposed
sale
of
the
asheville
primary
school
on
haywood
road
by
the
ashford
by
the
asheville
city,
schools
board
and
the
superintendent.
E
I
would
also
just
like
to
comment
quickly
on
the
need
to
consider
vaccination
of
our
educators
here
in
the
county.
Before
we
return
to
school,
I
really
believe
it's
essential
that
educators
have
access
to
vaccination
before
we
have
widespread
returning
before
we
have
widespread
students
return
to
the
classroom.
So
those
are
my
two
comments.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
public
hearing
on
emergency
paid
sick
leave.
We
will
take
public
comment
during
the
public
hearing,
but
I
believe
we
have
a
short
presentation.
First.
A
And
just
for
the
folks
who
were
going
to
be
on
public
comment,
if
we
will
be
taking
public
comment
during
this
hearing,
if
one
of
those
folks
calls
in
who
wanted
to
participate
in
public
comment,
I'd
be
happy
to
accommodate
them
if
they're
willing
to
hold
for
for
a
few
minutes:
okay,
hey
sharon,
hi.
H
Good
evening,
and
thank
you
for
your
time,
as
I
mentioned
at
our
last
at
the
briefing
couple
weeks
ago,
I
wanted
to
bring
forward
a
policy
for
the
emergency,
sick
and
emergency
coveted
sick
leave
for
our
employees
max.
Do
we
have
the?
Can
you
push
the
presentation
for
me.
H
Why
does
that
look
like
that?
A
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
many
of
our
employees
were
able
that
were
on
either
sick
from
covid
or
that
were
quarantined
were
able
to
take
home
their
work
and
they
were
able
to
work
from
home,
which
is
a
really
it's
a
it's
an
awesome
benefit
for
our
employees
of
the
280
people.
5.65
of
our
employees
use
the
extended
family
leave
which
again
that's
taking
care
of
their
kids
or
their
children,
while
their
schools
or
daycare
was
closed.
H
The
new
issue
is
that
for
those
departments
or
positions
that
are
unable
to
do
social
distancing,
we
have
seen
that
their
absences
or
required
absences
because
they
have
been
exposed
to
covid,
have
been
greater.
We
have
some
employees
that,
through
their
job,
have
been
exposed.
You
know
three
or
four
times
and
what
that
does
is
depending
on
how
long
it
takes
for
their
for
their
their
cova
tests
to
come
back.
H
It
could
be
anywhere
between
three
and
five
days
and
they're,
exhausting
all
their
pto,
which
they're
doing
that,
because
potentially
they
were
exposed
by
one
of
their
co-workers
or
one
of
the
clients
that
they're
serving
next
next
slide.
Please.
So
the
temporary
policy
would
look
like
this
that
we
ask,
or
that
I'm
asking
is
that
we
extend
the
emergency
sick
leave
for
employee
use
only
so
under
ffcra.
You
could
use
that
those
80
hours
for
either
yourself
or
your
family
member.
What
we're
asking
is
that
it's
exclusively
used
for
the
employees.
H
So
if
the
employees
need
to
either
quarantine
at
home
or
if
they're
sick,
they
would
use
that
for
themselves,
no
new
hours
will
be
granted.
So
if
you
exhausted
your
sick
hours
prior
to
your
coveted
sick
hours
prior
to
december
31st,
we
wouldn't
be
giving
you
any
new
ones.
It's
just
for
those
that
have
not
used
their
sec
and
then
for
the
quarantine
piece.
H
H
Should
these
come
up
in
the
future,
they're
not
necessarily
listed
here,
but
they
may
be
somebody
who
is
going
into
an
environment
where
they're
not
able
to
take
their
work
home
if
they
get
put
on
covid.
For
example,
if
you
had,
let's
say
a
groundskeeper,
you
can't
take
groundskeeping
work
home
and
if
they
happen
to
get
you
know
exposed
through
the
workplace.
We'd
want
to
be
able
to
offer
them
that
that
benefit
as
well.
H
Now,
this
ask
would
only
run
through
until
president
biden,
the
house
and
the
senate
were
able
to
push
through
whatever
the
the
new
the
covert
relief
package
that
they're
they're
looking
to
put
through
and
then
once
once
that's
put
through.
This
would
then
sunset
unless
you
all
decide
to
do
something
differently,
so
my
recommendation
is
that
we
approve
the
emergency
sick
leave
in
cova
quarantine
policy.
H
Once
again,
the
duration
is
until
the
new
federal
regulations
are
put
in
place,
and
we
let
you
know,
based
on
those
positions
that
I
listed
as
well
as
giving
me
the
discretion.
Should
we
have
a
position
that
you
know
the
person
is
required
to
quarantine
or
is
sick,
and
they
can't
do
their
work
from
home
that
we
could
extend
that
additional
benefit
to
them
as
well
questions
I
can
answer
for
you.
D
H
So
not
all
positions
like
over
in
our
facilities
division,
not
all
of
our
positions,
would
work
in
areas
where
they
can't
social
distance.
You
know.
So
if
you
were
a
person
that
was
working
in
the
detention
center,
you
were
a
service
agent
that
was
working
in
the
detention
center
that
that
person
may
not
be
able
to
social
distance.
You
know
we
do
have
some
of
our
folks
that
are
grounds
they
ride
to
and
from
their
locations
that
are
in
their
vehicles.
H
H
The
key,
though,
what
I
would
be
looking
at
is
is
the
if
the
position
if
we
were
able
to
offer
any
type
of
work
from
home
and
that
could
include
you
know
I
was
talking
to
one
of
the
supervisors
whose
employee
is
out
and
they
said
well,
you
know
we
have
annual
training.
Can
I
have
them?
Do
that?
I'm
like
yeah.
That's
that's
compensable
time.
Of
course
you
can.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
introduce
to
supervisors
before
we
move
into
you
know.
A
A
G
A
Time-Off
policy,
so
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
at
5
22
p.m.
Commissioners,
if
it's
okay
with
you,
I'd
like
to
have
the
member
of
the
public,
who
wasn't
able
to
get
on
earlier,
go
ahead
and
make
their
comments
now,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
that
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
the
consideration
of
the
paid
sick
leave
emergency.
Basically,
policy.
I
Have,
oh,
my
goodness
now,
please
don't
shut
me
up
brownie,
because
I'm
going
to
make
a
compliment
to
congratulate
you.
Okay,
I
mean,
I
know
I'm
not
supposed
to
single
out
one
commissioner,
but
I
want
to
single
you
out
for
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
speak
since
us
old
fellows
have
a
hard
time
with
zoom,
and
I
told
you
a
long
time
ago,
tom
sobel
did
that
on
everything
the
commissioners
voted
on,
and
I
would
encourage
the
commissioners
to
consider
that,
because
it
does
show
that
you
care
what
the
citizens
think.
I
My
comment
has
to
do
with
simple
fact
that
I
know
that
we've
got
over
7
million
dollars
coming
in
for
rent
subsidy.
I
think
you're
going
to
discuss
that
today,
it's
going
to
be
administered
by
the
county
and
the
county's
going
to
get
a
grant
administrator
overseeing
it
and
I
think
three
different
personnel.
I
My
question
is
well
those
positions,
those
four
positions.
What
will
happen
to
them
after
the
grant,
because
we
know
that
taxes
are
going
up.
I've
already
had
people
call
me,
their
taxes
went
up
like
20
and
half
of
this
property
is
in
the
flood
plain,
and
so
there
are
some
challenges
going
to
be
there
when
people
get
their
property
taxes
and
us
folks
that
are
on
fixed
income,
a
20
increase
is
going
to
be
pretty
darn
hefty,
especially
like
in
my
situation.
I
I'm
trying
to
have
affordable
rent
for
three
people
and
I
get
them
and
they
stay
there
forever.
But
do
you
realize
what
that's
going
to
do
to
an
affordable
rent
of
the
seven
to
hundred
to
a
thousand
dollars
a
month?
So
I
want
you
to
consider
where
you're
spending
money
and
how
you're
spending
it
and
be
careful
and
I'd,
ask
a
question
of
the
attorney
and
he
did
answer
about
some
questions.
I
And
one
of
my
questions
was
when
this
money
from
the
aid,
the
restaurants
and
so
forth,
that
have
been
shut
down
through
none
of
no
fault
of
their
own
they're,
going
to
be
given
money
and
you're
going
to
be
working
through
two
non-profits
and
I
said
I'd
like
to
know
who
gets
the
money.
But
I
understand
that
when
it's
passed
to
that
non-profit
there's
no
way
we
can
know
who
has
helped
with
that
money,
and
I
think
that
is
unfair
to
the
taxpayers.
I
That
is
also
unfair,
because
a
non-profit
is
not
a
profit-making
institution
and
if
we
give
a
non-profit
and
a
non-profit
does
like
the
county
pulls
off
ten
percent
of
the
grant
for
administrative.
We
need
to
know
that.
Okay,
that's
my
comment.
I'm
sure
the
three
minutes
are
not
up,
but
it's
easy
to
shut
me
up.
I
appreciate
you,
though,
brownie
for
letting
me
have
my
comment.
Thank
you
very
much.
Y'all
be
safe,
going
home
and
I
am
sitting
outside
the
door,
and
I
will
be
here
next
meeting
have
a
great
one.
Bye-Bye.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
donna,
it's
good
to
see.
You
appreciate
your
sticking
with
us
all
right.
Commissioners,
let's
go
back
to
the
paid
sickly
policy.
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
proposal
as
described.
D
I
guess
I
guess
my
only
question
or
concern
is
the
is
the
policy
stipulating
you
know,
designated
employees
or
specific
departments
or
specific
employees,
I'm
just
curious.
Why
why
we
couldn't
just
open
it
up
for
any
any
accounting
employee
who
has
to
quarantine?
For
any
reason,
I
should
have
brought
this
up
before
the
meeting,
but
it's
not
clear
to
me
that
that's
what
this
does.
H
So
the
reason
why
we
chose
those
specific
positions
are
those
employees
that
can't
perform
any
functions
of
their
job
from
from
their
home.
So
as
a
detention
officer.
Obviously
you
can't
do
that
from
home
where
a
lot
of
our
our
clerical
or
even
our
managerial
staff,
many
of
us,
you
know,
if
we're
not
feeling
well,
we
just
take
our
laptops
with
us
and
we
work
from
home,
and
so
that
way
we're
still.
D
A
C
A
Thank
you
for
getting
that
getting
that
out
there.
All
right,
I
want
to
hear
from
the
red
cross
about
their
blood
drive
in
buncombe,
county
and
megan
robinson
is
here
to
talk
to
us
about
that.
Thanks
for
being
here.
K
The
need
for
blood
has
not
stopped.
During
covid
we
saw
a
momentary
lull
when
non-essential
surgeries
were
postponed
last
march
and
april.
But
since
then
the
need
has
quickly
ramped
back
up
to
pre-pandemic
demand,
and
this
is
for
everything
from
mothers.
Giving
birth
individuals
experiencing
severe
trauma,
sickle
cell
patients,
leukemia
patients
and
and
25
of
our
blood
is
actually
going
to
patients
who
are
receiving
cancer
treatments.
K
Locally
over
80
of
our
blood
is
actually
collected
with
what
we
call
sponsor
organizations.
So,
if
you
think
about
the
last
time,
you
donated
blood,
or
you
saw
a
blood
drive,
it
was
with
a
school
with
a
church
with
a
college
or
at
your
workplace,
and
since
last
march
we
had
hundreds
of
these
drives
cancelled.
Dozens
of
them
cancel
and
postpone
in
buncombe
county.
K
K
Using
forecasts
of
patient
need
to
factor
in
what
drives
we
need
and
where,
typically,
we
all
know,
this
grey
sky
events
like
a
a
blizzard
or
a
hurricane
are
really
localized
and
if
that
hit
western
north
carolina
we'd
be
able
to
go
down
to
charlotte
to
south
carolina
and
collect
those
blood
units
there.
K
Well,
we
all
know
covid
does
not
allow
us
that
and
across
the
country
we're
all
facing
the
same
shortage
in
donors
and
drives
and
interestingly,
the
shortage
of
donors
could
actually
be
fixed
if
we
actually
had
enough
drive
locations
in
their
communities
to
accommodate
them,
and
that's
really
what
we're
looking
for
from
the
county
and
from
all
of
our
our
residents
here
next
slide.
K
Covett
has
also
introduced
a
new
need
and
that's
the
need
for
convalescent
plasma.
So
this
is
the
plasma
that's
rich
in
antibodies
from
individuals
who
have
fully
recovered
from
covid.
We
have
patients
and
their
families
waiting
at
hospitals
across
the
country.
For
this
delivery
and
right
now
the
demand
has
increased
over
250
percent
since
october,
and
each
month
we've
been
delivering
more
plasma
than
the
month
prior.
K
There
are
two
ways:
individuals
can
donate
this
plasma
in
buncombe
county.
One
is
at
our
asheville
office
on
edgewood
road
and
another
is
actually
just
signing
up
to
donate
blood
at
any
blood
drive
if
their
blood
comes
back
with
positive
antibody
tests,
we're
able
to
then
process
it
and
pull
the
plasma
and
use
that
for
the
critical
patients
in
need
next
slide.
K
A
really
high
focus
we
have
is
increasing
diversity
in
in
our
blood
supply
so
generally,
and
often
unknown
the
best
blood
match
for
a
patient
requiring
frequent
transfusions.
The
most
common
case
is
someone
with
sickle.
K
If
that's
not,
something
that's
of
comfort
secondarily,
is
to
donate
space
for
what
we're
calling
community
based
donation
sites.
We
actually
need
physical
space,
climate
controlled,
ada
compliant
the
spot.
The
host
organization
doesn't
need
to
do
anything
but
turn
on
the
lights
and
open
the
door
and
we'll
work
to
get
donors
in
this
has
been
a
life
saver
for
us.
We've
partnered,
with
quite
a
few
buncombe
county
businesses
with
vacant
storefronts
to
get
donors
in
the
door.
K
Sharing
information
about
the
convalescent
plasma
need.
We
all
know
the
media
is
ripe
with
other
topics.
This
was
not
one
that
managed
to
make
it
to
the
top
of
most
pressing
topics
in
2020
and
2021,
but
we
anticipate
this
need
through
the
duration
of
2021
and
then
lastly
helping
to
meet
the
unique
needs
of
our
diverse
blood
recipients.
K
So
as
community
influencers
as
community
members
engaging
with
your
constituents
and
with
your
communities
to
encourage
donations,
especially
in
our
african-american
community
and
the
last
slide,
and
just
to
end
on
this,
we
actually
have
on
february
24th
our
11th
annual
battle
of
the
badges.
This
is
a
buncombe
county
event
at
first
baptist
church
on
oak
street.
K
We
have
all
of
our
badge
departments
competing
to
see
who
can
bring
donate
the
most
blood
on
their
behalf
and
it's
open
to
the
public.
So
if
any
of
you
all
are
available,
I'd
welcome
you
to
come
by.
Thank
the
volunteers,
donate
blood
yourself
or
just
thank
our
first
responders.
It's
our
second
largest
event
of
the
year,
and
I
am
hopeful
to
see
some
friendly
faces
there
and
then
next
slide.
K
Yeah,
the
most
people
vote
for
them
at
the
event,
so
I
do
encourage
you
all
to
do
that.
There
are
some
additional
resources
in
the
powerpoint
deck
that
I'm
not
going
to
go
through,
but
if
anything
piqued
your
interest,
I
believe
everyone
has
my
contact
information.
I
have
your
contact
information
please
reach
out.
K
A
All
right
megan,
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
and
giving
us
an
update
on
this.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
wondering
what
they
can
do
to
help.
You
know
these
days,
and
so
thank
you
for
shining
a
light
on
this
important
way
that
people
in
our
community
can
really
help
other
people
stay
healthy
and
safe.
Thank.
L
A
A
Great,
thank
you,
commissioner
evans.
All
right.
Next
up,
we
would
like
to
get
an
update
from
the
board
of
adjustments
and
martin
moore
is
here
to
talk
to
us
about
the
board
of
adjustments.
M
M
M
In
short,
as
you
know,
we're
a
quasi-judicial
board
consisting
of
seven
regular
members
and
seven
alternates.
We
roll
on
variance
zoning
variances
conditional
uses,
appeals
and
appeals
to
decisions
of
the
development
ordinance
administrators.
So,
as
you
can
see,
our
regular
members
are
up
there.
We
have
a
dedicated
group
of
volunteers
and
again
I'll
highlight
these
are
volunteers,
folks,
who
are
spending
a
healthy
amount
of
their
time
and
we'll
get
to
more
time
than
they
necessarily
expected
to
to
spend,
given
how
things
have
blown
up
over
the
past
few
years.
M
But
we've
had
a
very
dedicated
board.
Who's
been
very
diligent
about
executing
their
function
fairly.
Well,
apart
from
myself
among
the
regular
members,
these
are
all
folks
from
our
community.
I
live
here
as
well,
but
all
of
them
are
lay
people
they
do
not
have
law
degrees,
so
something
that's
turned
into
a
little
bit
of
a
legal
process
is,
is
being
handled
very
well
by
folks
who
have
real
estate
and
development
backgrounds
of
many
different
sorts.
Apart
from
myself,
I
believe
tim
henderson
is
the
only
other
member
that
has
a
law
degree.
M
Initially,
when
I
came
on
the
board
about
three
years
ago
now
we
had
a
lot
at
about
two
and
a
half
hours.
We
could
finish
most
of
the
projects
within
that
time.
Now
we
are,
you
can
see
under
the
challenges
list.
We
certainly
have
a
healthy
number
of
hearings
that
span
as
long
as
nine
hours,
if
not
longer,
spending
the
course
of
multiple
different
hearings,
largely
due
to
the
complexity
of
the
projects.
This
is
not.
M
M
So
some
of
the
challenges
apart
from
us
operating
in
a
pandemic
setting,
is
the
standing
issue,
and
that's
certainly
one
that
I'm
confident
has
been
a
subject
of
discussion
in
these
meetings.
That
is
a
point
of
nuance.
We
have
far
more
attorneys
presenting
than
ever
before.
That
is
not
something
that
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
this
board
necessarily
expected
or
dealt
with
regularly.
M
It
used
to
be
a
board
that
primarily
dealt
with
neighbors
folks,
who
are
everyday
individuals,
looking
to
seek
a
variance
from
the
ordinance
and
honestly
just
helping
everyday
people
with
everyday
problems.
Now
it
certainly
has
blown
up
a
little
bit
more
than
that,
but
I
think
our
board
has
essentially
done
a
good
job
of
implementing
the
ordinance
as
it
was
drafted
and
intended
to
be
interpreted.
M
You
can
imagine
courtrooms,
don't
necessarily
have
witnesses
who
are
not
parties
with
standing
or
have
some
direct
stake
in
the
case,
testifying
so
we're
tasked
with
balancing
the
public's
interest
in
these
matters
against
what
our
legal
obligation
is
under
state,
county
and
local
ordinance
rules
here,
which
has
certainly
led
to
some
of
the
marathon.
As
you
can
see
marathon
five
hour
plus
meetings,
I
will
note
the
vast
majority
of
those
have
involved
standing
as
the
primary
issue.
M
So
the
board
can
get
to
the
meat
of
what
the
project
ought
to
be,
which
is
the
underlying
ordinance
itself
and
the
application
thereof.
We
can
move
to
the
next
slide.
Please
so
big
changes
in
this
in
2021
we
had
started
in
a
posture
of
doing
virtual
meetings.
We
had
that
headed
the
right
direction,
started
meeting
in
person
due
to
a
few
legal
issues
and
concerns
raised
by
attorneys
who
wanted
to
present
their
project
certain
ways
in
order
to
keep
the
board
safe.
We
have
revisited
the
idea
of
doing
zoom
hearings.
M
The
remote
hearings
or
non-remote
hearings
that
we
previously
were
dealing
with
again
had
some
legal
challenges.
Those
for
the
most
part
have
been
abated
and
we
have
some
rules
coming
out.
Hopefully
soon
that
will
kind
of
take
care
of
our
underlying
concerns
there
to
make
sure
that
everyone
will
still
have
an
opportunity
to
fairly
present
their
case
to
be
heard
and
to
have
a
completely
transparent
process
which
everyone
can
participate
and
see.
What
we're
doing.
M
While
there
are
some
legal
concerns
about
who
can
testify
and
who
may
be
able
to
say
what
specific
things
within
those
hearings,
I
think
more
than
ever,
we
have
a
renewed
interest
in
the
board
of
adjustments,
activities
and
folks
who
are
able
to
watch
us,
perform
our
duties
with
diligence
and
transparency
and
plenty
of
citizens
waiting
in
on
zoom.
That
is
something
that
I
know
you
guys
have
dealt
with
yourselves.
People
are
waiting
for
public
comment,
the
opportunity
to
speak.
M
So
you
can
see
some
examples
of
the
projects
that
we've
addressed:
project
ranger,
orion,
the
busby
road
crossroads
projects
and
each
of
those
ended
up
being
significant
long
hearings.
For
the
most
part,
our
board
has
not
really
had
too
much
of
an
attendance
issue
post
us
getting
the
subsequent
appointments.
We
had
a
group
of
people
who
have
not
backed
down
for
the
challenge
and
we're
excited
to
move
forward.
M
N
Thank
you.
This
is
really
great
update
and
thank
you
to
you
and
other
members
of
the
board,
for
the
really
what's
become
a
pretty
herculean
task.
That
y'all
are
engaged
in
is
have
you
gotten
a
sense
from
from
members
of
the
board
about
how
they're
handling
this
sort
of
significant
uptick
in
the
volume
and
intensity
and
duration
of
meetings?
N
M
Absolutely
I
I
will
say
the
board
has
been
nothing
but
accommodating
and
kind
of
rising
to
the
challenge
that
we're
dealing
with
it
certainly
is
a
concern
in
some
ways,
a
lot
of
folks
just
coming
on
timing-wise
and
some
of
this
nathan
may
be
able
to
speak
to
you
as
well,
coming
on
timing-wise
hit
that
interesting
transition
where
we
went
from
two
and
a
half
hour
meetings,
maybe
a
four-hour
meeting
every
now
and
then,
with
an
attorney
to
the
eight-hour
stretch.
That's
fine.
M
I
think
a
lot
of
us
are
prepared
to
to
handle
that.
That
being
said,
it's
something
that's
required
a
little
bit
of
finessing
in
terms
of
taking
health
breaks,
sitting
down,
making
sure
that
everyone
has
even
small
things
like
providing
lunch,
giving
our
folks
a
chance
to
step
back
and
and
truly
just
remain
diligent,
because
this
is
not
simple
or
overly
simplified
presentations.
M
They're
hearing
from
they're
hearing
from
some
really
great
attorneys
contesting
over
some
really
nuanced
topics
here,
it
is
something
I
believe
will
continue
to
rise
to
the
challenge
on,
but
it
certainly
would
invite
any
creative
solutions
and
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
report
back
after
receiving
something
more
formal
from
our
board.
Thank.
B
A
Other
questions,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
serving.
This
is
a
board
that
has
had
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting
to
do,
and
so
we
appreciate
everyone
doing
it.
We
just
did
some
additional
appointments.
As
you
mentioned
a
lot
of
great
people
applied
for
this,
so
we
were
fortunate
to
have
great
folks
to
choose
between
to
to
serve
there,
so
we
appreciate
everyone's
work
on
it.
I
do
think
that
I'm
just
kind
of
following
up
on
commissioner
beech
ferrara's
comments.
A
I
mean
you
know.
Obviously
y'all's
responsibility
is
to
follow
the
local
and
state
statutes
that
govern
how
these
boards
operate
and,
as
you
know,
I
think
you
guys
take
that
very
seriously
as
part
of
our
comprehensive
planning
process
and
other
kind
of
you
know
thoughts
around
kind
of
future
community
planning,
I
mean,
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
you
know,
kind
of
a
question
on
the
table
from
the
community
standpoint,
so
to
speak
about
in
the
future.
You
know
what
is
the?
What
is
the
right
way?
A
You
know
what
are
the
right
kind
of
land
use
decisions
that
ought
to
be
sent
to
the
board
of
adjustments.
You
know
versus
other
ways
of
making
decisions
to
promote
the
best.
You
know
future
growth
and
development
and
land
use
patterns
that
we
that
we
want
to
see.
So
I
think
that
those
are
going
to
be
important
questions
that
we
look
at
through
this
process
on
revising
or
creating
our
comprehensive
plan
and,
and
so
it'll
be
an
interesting
conversation.
A
And
if
you
know
the
folks
on
the
board
of
adjustments,
have
ideas
and
input
they
want
to
have
on
that,
based
on
kind
of
living
with
the
process
that
as
it
exists
today,
you
know
we
certainly
welcome
their
input
from
on
those
questions
as
well
as
well
as
from
folks
in
the
community,
who
are
also
asking
a
lot
of
these
same
questions.
So
it's
not
really
a
question.
A
B
O
Good
evening,
commissioner,
newman
and
other
all
the
commissioners
and
the
staff
as
well-
and
we
want
to
thank
you
on
behalf
of
the
planning
board
for
having
us
here
this
evening-
we
are
we're
thrilled
that
you
were
interested
in
what
we
are
doing
and
wanted
to
hear
about
us.
I
am
nancy
waldrop,
I'm
serving
as
the
acting
chair
of
the
planning
board
at
this
point
in
time
and
I'm
not
techno
savvy
so
kind
of
bear
with
me.
O
O
B
O
G
O
We're
not
we
do
somewhat
quasi-judicial,
but
mostly
legislative,
so
we
don't
have
the,
I
think,
intensity
that
probably
the
board
of
adjustments
gets
and
I'm
going
to.
Let
mr
pennington
explain
this
chart
to
you,
because
it's
very
interesting
and
I
think
he
can
do
it
a
little
bit
more
coherently
than
probably
I.
P
Can
okay,
so
so
the
planning
board
does
function
as
a
legislative
board.
Sure,
just
like
you
all
do
and
right
now
they
have
one
quasi-judicial
function
and
that's
when
they
review
a
subdivision
variance,
that's
the
only
time
they
function
in
a
quasi-judicial
fashion.
Now,
you're,
probably
looking
at
this
chart
going
well.
What
does
this
mean?
Well
it.
It
indicates
some
really
interesting
trends
that
kind
of
give
us
a
good
projection
for
where
we
are
and
in
the
world
of
covid
everything's
interesting.
P
So,
while
rezoning
applications
have
decreased
from
2019
to
2020,
look
at
major
subdivisions,
it's
increased
just
as
much
as
that
decrease
in
that
other
application
type.
I
think
what
that
speaks
to
is
it's
the
attribution
of
where
we
are
in
terms
of
the
need
and
development
of
residential
units.
Sometimes
it
takes
a
re-zoning
to
get
an
application
for
a
major
subdivision,
so
that's
one
way
to
look
at
it.
P
The
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind,
too,
is
that
we
had
to
shut
down
public
hearings
for
three
months,
essentially
creating
a
bottleneck
due
to
the
covet
issues.
We
had
to
learn
how
to
become
producers
of
zoom.
We
had
to
learn
how
to
do
things
that
I
never
in
my
planning
career
would
have
thought
I
would
ever
be
doing,
but
anyway,
there's
some
really
interesting
sort
of
statistics
coming
out
of
this
application
here.
P
Traditionally,
you've
done
about
one
reasoning:
application
per
month
and
obviously
you
can
see
the
numbers
have
changed,
we'll
see
what
21
turns
out,
but
we
do
not
see
an
abatement
to
the
development
boom
stopping
so
these
folks
are
here
to
do
the
text.
Amendments
the
rezonings
and
also
policy
and
they've
got
quite
a
bit
on
their
plate.
That
nancy
will
discuss
on
the
upcoming
slides.
O
And
if
there's
a
frustration
with
the
planning
board,
I
think
it's
because
when
we
look
at
subdivision
developments,
our
only
job
is
to
say
that
the
planning
staff
has
done
their
job
by
checking
off
all
the
boxes,
that
the
developer
is
acting
in
accordance
with
the
law
and
the
ordinance
is
in
place.
So
we're
really,
I
don't
want
to
say,
a
rubber
stamp,
but
that's
kind
of
what
it
feels
like
it.
Sometimes.
So
it's
just
an
approval
process,
which
is
all
well
and
good.
O
O
But
I
know
our
planning
board
staff
feels
very
strongly
about
that,
because
they
do
feel
like
that's
where
they
have
input
and
that's
where
they
they
can
make
a
difference
by
what
they
say
and
what
they
feel
on
this.
And
we
have
a
a
pretty
varied
planning
board
staff.
We
have
several
developers
that
are
on
our
board.
O
We
have
some
real
estate
people
on
our
board
and
we
have
myself
my
claim
to
what
I
offer
is
my
community
input
and
that
I
was
a
former
realtor
as
well,
but
the
point
being
we're
not
all
developers.
We
don't
all
have
a
background
in
what
we're
looking
at.
So
it's
all
kind
of
new
and
interesting
as
we
go
along
as
two,
but
the
planning
board
does
so
much
more
than
daily
developmental
tasks.
We
conduct
studies
of
our
jurisdiction
and
determine
objectives
we
prepare
and
adopt
plans
for
achieving
objectives.
O
O
Most
of
us
have
been
waiting
for
this
moment
and
chapter
160d
amendments
for
development
regulations
play
into
what
we
do,
and
this
consolidates
city
and
county,
enabling
statutes
into
a
single
unified
chapter,
provides
clarifying
amendments
and
consensus
reforms
as
july
on
july.
1St
2021
is
the
deadline
to
develop
and
adopt
amendments
to
conform,
local
ordinances,
zoning
subdivision
development
regulations
to
the
new
law
july.
The
1st
2021
is
the
deadline
to
have
an
up-to-date
land
use
comprehensive
plan
communities
with
a
zoning
ordinance
must
have
a
comprehensive
plan.
So
that
is
a
lot
to
take
care
of.
O
We
have
to
really
feel
like
we're
having
an
input,
and
it
is
important
to
the
members
of
the
planning
board
to
hear
back
from
what
those
decisions
were
consider
methods
for
greater
public
input,
insurance,
ensuring
citizens
feel
heard
and
as
with
a
lot
of
governmental
things,
there
is
a
big
disconnect
between
what
the
public
understands
we
do
and
what
we
actually
do.
But
I
personally
feel
like
one
of
the
most
important
things
we
can
do
in
any
governing
body
is
to
allow
for
public
input.
O
But
that's,
I
think,
significant
to
having
the
community
come
on
board
with
anything
that
we
do
is
to
have
them
feel
like
that
they
are
being
heard
and
that
they
have
the
ability
to
express
their
feelings
about
that.
And
people
actually
hear
it
onto
the
subdivision
ordinance
with
greater
consideration
for
the
need
for
open
space.
Sidewalks
trails,
outdoor
areas
and
infrastructure,
ncdit
infrastructure
improvements
connecting
existing
road
networks
to
new
development
audit,
the
community
oriented
development
program
for
its
effectiveness
in
encouraging
the
development
of
affordable
housing
and
revise
if
needed.
O
O
So
again,
this
is
important
to
to
us
going
forward
as
it
as
it
is
also
important
to
the
community
and
the
subdivision.
Ordinances.
We've
been
there
for
quite
a
while
and
we've
seen
a
lot
of
things
happening
in
the
county,
the
growth
in
the
county,
and
I
think,
if
there's
anything
that
the
planning
board
feels
like
is
that
we
we
have
seen
areas
where
improvement
needs
to
be
made
in
what
we're
doing
with
subdivisions
and
how
we're
going
about
growth.
It's
not
that
the
growth
shouldn't
happen.
Growth
definitely
should
happen.
O
O
Future
planning
considerations
consider
methods
to
educate
the
public
on
the
duties
and
responsibilities
of
the
planning
board
and
the
benefits
of
conservation
and
low-impact
land-use
tools
create
a
comprehensive
land
use
plan
that
is
progressive
and
visionary
to
restrain
sprawl,
evaluate
the
use
of
service
area
boundaries
or
urban
growth.
Boundaries.
Study
impact
of
climate
change
in
relation
to
our
zoning
ordinance,
adverse
effects
of
weather
mudslides,
floods,
etc
and
align
with
the
hazard
mitigation
plan,
strengthen
our
steep
slope,
hillside
and
protected
ridge
overlay
district
codes
to
better
preserve
our
natural
landscape.
O
Consider
conditional
zoning,
especially
for
rezoning
applications
and
large-scale
subdivisions,
and
these
considerations
came
from
the
members
of
the
the
planning
board.
They
each
had
an
opportunity
to
give
us
input
into
this
slide,
and
it
also
goes
back
to
what
I
was
talking
about
previously
about
places
that
we
see
where
there
could
be
changes
made
in
what
we're
doing
now
to
make
improvements
for
the
whole
county.
O
And
that
is
the
end
of
my
slideshow,
but
I
would
also
like
to
to
add
one
more
thing,
and
I
know
you
all
already
know
this,
but
you
have
a
tremendous
planning
department
and
they
do
a
tremendous
job
for
this
county
and
they
do
a
tremendous
job
for
us
as
a
planning
board.
O
A
Nancy,
commissioner,
you
have
any
questions.
P
No,
what
wouldn't
you
made
that
mention
we
were
talking
about
specifically,
I.
P
To
do
with
160d
adopting
160d,
which
is
coming
your
way
by
the
way
and
it'll
be
so
much
fun.
So
we
need
to
take
that
to
the
planning
board
first
and
we
plan
to
take
that
to
the
planning
board
in
march
with
an
appearance
before
you
all
in
april,
maybe
at
the
latest,
the
first
meeting
in
may-
and
this
essentially
is
taking
the
city
enabling
legislation
county
enabling
legislation
and
putting
it
together
and
just
one
further
clarification
too.
P
We
do
technically
qualify
under
our
existing
land
use
plan
of
2013
to
meet
that
statutory
requirement
for
communities
with
zoning
ordinances
need
to
have
a
comprehensive
plan.
There
are
many
communities
that
actually
believe
it
or
not.
Don't
have
a
comprehensive
plan,
but
I
think
we
can
all
agree.
We
need
a
new
plan
still
so
obviously
that's
underway
and
that
rfp
is
out
there
and
the
public
now
awaiting
people
to
submit
good
good
suggestions
and
plans
for
us
to
move
forward
on
that.
A
Q
A
R
So,
while
this
agenda
item
requires
no
action
from
you
this
evening,
we
re
april
no
budget
of
mine
to
support
okay.
So
maybe
it
will
require
a
little
bit
of
action.
R
My
apologies,
so
we
committed
as
staff
to
bring
back
to
you
during
our
fiscal
year
21
budget
development
discussions
and
we
committed
to
bring
back
to
you
the
fiscal
year,
21
cost
of
living
adjustment
calculation
prior
to
applying
it
per
the
personnel
ordinance.
R
R
R
So
staff
is
recommending
that
we
use
lapped
salary
to
cover
to
cover
fiscal
year.
21
costs
when
we're
applying
this
per
the
personnel.
Ordinance
staff
would
also
like
to
bring
this
topic
back
in
a
few
short
months
during
the
fiscal
year
22
budget
discussions
and
propose
that
a
cost
of
living
adjustment
be
aligned
for
decision
and
implementation
based
on
the
fiscal
year
time
period
for
july
through
june.
R
A
So,
just
a
little
bit
of
background
on
that,
thank
you
for
raising
it
because
I
feel,
like
it's
kind
of
one
of
these
things
that
sometimes
we
sort
of
end
up
scurrying
around
and
talking
about
it
kind
of
at
the
last
minute.
A
We
are
county
employees
right
part-time,
doing
this
role,
that
we
are
county
employees
in
that
role.
So
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
the
general
process
would
be
unless
the
county
commissioners
make
an
affirmative
decision
for
it
not
to
apply
to
us.
It
would
apply
to
us
in
many
in
many
recent
years
we
have
made
the
affirmative
decisions
to
not
accept
it.
Q
A
Effective
in
april,
just
like
with
everyone
else
and
okay,
so
we
would
need
to
kind
of
take
that
up.
If
that's
something
that
we
want
to
do
right,
good
question.
Q
A
So
the
the
decision
that
we
do
want
to
have
considered
tonight
is
the
adoption
of
this
for
the
current
fiscal
year,
so
that
the
would
apply,
through
the
end
of
this
effective
april,
through
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
correct
budgetary
estimate
of
around
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
A
So
we
could,
if
we
approve
that
tonight,
if
we,
if
we
wanted
to,
we
could
actually
go
ahead
and
add
the
commissioner
provision
to
it.
If
we
wish
to.
I
think
that
would
see
anybody
object
to
that
being
included
in
a
motion.
If
we.
I
A
So
let
me
just
ask
a
follow-up
question:
make
sure
I'm
hearing
the
process
correctly,
so
the
request
is
to
consider
improving
the
1.45
percent
cost
of
living
effective
april
through
the
which
would
apply
to
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
But
then
the
staff
are
requesting
that
we
come
back
and
further
consider
this
as
part
of
our
budget
process
going
forward
so
rather
than
being
on
the
april
to
april
cycle
in
the
future.
A
This
will
be
on
the
budget
cycle
right.
Well,
I
really
support
that
and
I
appreciate
y'all
bringing
that
in
here,
because
I
think
that
I
mean
I'm
really
pleased
that
the
commission
has
been
supportive
of
the
cost
of
living
adjustments.
I
think
it's
something
that
we
should
really
support
absent
extraordinary
circumstances.
A
I
mean,
of
course,
in
the
last
year,
we've
been
in
some
pretty
extraordinary
circumstances,
so
I
think
we
kind
of
raised
the
question
of
like
we
need
to
check
in
and
make
sure
we
can
do
this
because
we
didn't
know
where
the
world
would
be
at
this
point.
You
know
nine
months
ago,
but
I
do
think
it's
something
that
should
be
part
of
the
budget
process.
If
we're
not
gonna
wherever
we
land
on
it,
it
should
be
part
of
the
budget
process.
So
I
think
that's
a
great
recommendation
for
the
future.
A
Is
there
a
I'll
try
to
make
a
motion
on
this
so
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
appropriation
of
the
cost
of
living
adjustments
for
the
remainder
of
the
fiscal
year,
which
would
be
effective
in
april
continuing
through
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year
of
the
1.45,
as
identified
by
staff,
that
this
cost
of
living
adjustment
will
not
apply
to
the
county
commissioners,
and
that
the
county
commission
will
hear
further
recommendations
for
future
cost
of
living
adjustments
as
part
of
the
budget
cycle?
Does
that
capture
what
the
staff
recommendations
intended.
Q
It
does,
but
I
do
want
to
clarify
real
briefly
typically
this
typically,
this
would
start
in
april
and
it
would
go
to
the
following
april,
so
it
will
go
through
most
of
the
fiscal
year.
So
I
want
to
make
sure.
Are
you
looking
for
us
to
come
back
so
that
we
have
another
allocation
in
july
or
will
this
go
through
and
we
would
talk
about
a
allocation
the
following
year?
What.
A
A
Do
we
make
this
one
really
short
term
with
a
kind
of
a
another
decision
made
just
a
few
months
later
so
that
it
begins
for
july
to
july,
or
do
we
apply
it
all
the
way
through
next
april
within,
but
then
next
april
we're
to
be
right
back
in
the
same
position?
Aren't
we
so?
How
do
we
make
the
transition
so.
Q
C
Yes,
thank
you.
So
we
got
a
couple
issues
we
we're
we're
here
and
and
ms
barnett's
presented,
because
this
is
a
budget
and
finance
issue.
Looking
for
the
board's
approval
for
this
funding
of
this
1.45
percent,
compensation
of
the
board
is
is
by
statute.
Okay,
part
of
the
budget
process,
so
it'd
be
part
of
the
budget
ordinance.
So
if
you
want
to
give
direction
to
staff
to
make
the
change
that,
I
understand
your
your
motion
to
mean
you
direct
us
to
bring
back
a
change
to
the
personnel
ordinance
to
affect
it.
A
Okay,
let
me
ask
a
question,
though,
so
I
think
the
intention
of
the
motion
was
not
necessarily
to
permanently
take
the
county
commissioners
out
of
the
cost
of
living
adjustments,
but
simply
for
the
decisions
we're
making
right
now
that
we
would
be
supportive
of
not
applying
to
the
commission
so
more
of
a
temporary
than
saying
you
know
never
in
the
future
should
there
ever
be
a
cost
of
living
adjustment.
So.
A
Direction.
Okay,
let
me
let
me
let
me
try
again
on
emotion,
then
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
that
we
approve
the
cost
of
living
adjustment-
1.45
percent
effective
in
april
okay,
but
actually
I'm
sorry,
but
I'm
not
sure
I
still
I'm
looking
for
the
guidance
on
how
do
y'all
want
to
make
the
transition
just
on
the
county's
employees.
C
Q
A
B
A
A
C
Because
of
the
nature
of
this,
discussion
involves
the
funding
for
the
1.45
percent,
and
the
commission
is
not
generally
required
to
fund
certain
things.
But
if
you,
if
it's
a
funding
for
an
additional
compensation,
which
is
how
I
would
interpret
it
yes,
you
would
make
it
clear
through
your
motion
that
the
commission
would
not
be
increasing
its
compensation
at
this
time
and
that's
based
on
the
fact
that
compensation
for
commissioners
is
established
through
the
budget.
Ordinance.
A
Okay,
let's
go
and
vote
on
this
all
in
favor.
Please
say
I
I
any
opposed
okay,
great
and
so
do
we
need
to
do
anything
else
to
now
kind
of
put
this
on
a
so.
This
is
in
effect
for
15
months.
So
it's
not
something
that
we
need
to
take
up
like
in
a
few
months
from
now
for
the
vote
that
we'll
take
in
june.
It's
something
that
we'll
take
up
next
spring
for
consideration
in
the
fy
2022
budget.
Q
S
S
Here,
sir,
you
know:
we've
been
talking
about
having
the
salary
a
compensation
study.
When
will
we
get
that.
Q
That's
broken
down
into
several
components,
but
the
first
part
that
we
would
talk
about.
We
would
be
reaching
out
to
you
guys
this
month
february.
To
start
that
conversation,
we
will
look
to
make
any
adjustments
in
that.
If
there
are
critical
things
that
we
need
to
change,
we
will
try
to
do
that
before
june
30..
S
S
Everybody
gets
the
same
thing,
but
if
we're
doing
the
reviews,
the
way
we
should
the
performance
evaluations,
you
know
I've
been
one,
I
believe
in
paying
people
for
the
output.
You
know
for
what
they
do
and
if
we
have
the
salary
is
right
and
we're
doing
our
annual
reviews.
The
way
we
should,
let's
reward
the
people
for
what
they
do.
S
I
mean
that's
something
another
life
we
had
to
adjust
at
the
company.
I
worked
for
because
we
did
away
with
that
and
we
saw
the
improvement.
It
was
unreal
and
it
didn't
hurt
the
salaries
either.
You
know
when
you
look
at
it,
but
we
with
the
salary
ranges
and
everything
we
did.
We
found
out.
You
know
that
we
took
the
money
and
just
you
know
we
looked
at
it
in
a
different
way.
Q
Q
Q
The
the
other
conversation
around
compensation
is
getting
our
grades
right,
making
sure
people
are
paid
within
those
grades
that
we
already
established.
That's
the
piece
that
we'll
be
completing
and
reaching
out
to
you
in
the
next
few
weeks
to
talk
through
what
does
that
look
like,
but
long
term?
We
have
to
work
on
a
benefits
conversation
and
we
also
have
to
work
on
our
performance
system
in
for
the
county,
but.
Q
Two
things
are,
or
the
benefits
conversation
will
be
this
year,
we'll
be
starting
out
this
year,
so
that
when
we
get
into
renewals
for
october,
we
will
have
those
benefits
conversations,
but
the
performance
system
would
probably
be
22..
We
started
a
pilot
with
department
heads
all
department,
heads
right
now
have
goals
and
we
are
piloting
that
system
within
our
county
and
we'll
turn
that
on
to
all
county
departments
within
the
next
year.
A
All
right
is
there
anything
else
we
need
on
this
item
all
right
great!
Thank
you.
So
the
next
item
is
consideration
of
a
budget
amendment
for
emergency
rental
assistance
and
jennifer
barnett's,
going
to
help
us
out
with
this
one
too.
R
The
buncombe
county
health
and
human
services
has
received
a
grant
in
the
amount
of
seven
million,
eight
hundred
and
seventy
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
and
seventy
six
dollars
from
the
u.s
department
of
treasury
for
emergency
rental
assistance.
This
program
is
to
assist
households
that
are
unable
to
pay
rent
and
utilities
due
to
covid19
pandemic.
R
Health
and
human
services
will
be
administering
this
grant
much
like
they
have
already
been
working
through
with
the
one
bunkum
and
then
their
general
programming
for
general
assistance.
R
N
Q
N
T
Now
that
this
ms
pender
is
absolutely
correct,
north
carolina
was
awarded
702
million
dollars.
There
were
17
entities
in
the
state
that
had
populations
of
over
200
000,
whether
it
was
a
county
or
a
city,
and
those
17
entities
could
apply
directly.
So
we
this
came
up
on
january,
the
6th
and
I
think
they've
already
actually
distributed
the
money.
Q
B
N
N
This
is
it
yeah,
just
real
kind
of
sort
of
building
blocks
of
it.
I
I'll.
T
T
The
priority
goes
to
people
at
50
percent
of
the
area,
medium
income
or
if
they've
been
unemployed
for
90
days
or
more,
you
can
pay
a
rearage
rental,
it's
only
for
rent.
So
it
does
not
include
mortgage
and
it
includes
utilities,
but
they
do
not.
As
of
right
now,
they're
not
defining
broadband
as
a
utility
it'd
be
water
sewer.
T
T
It
actually
allows
you
to
pay
up
to
12
months,
so
you
can
do
a
rare
sh
or
you
can
go
forward
and
then
you
could
actually
add
three
months
onto
that,
so
a
total
of
actually
up
to
15
months.
T
The
the
the
problem
with
that
is,
you
have
to
do
income
eligibility
with
those
families
every
three
months
if
you're
paying
forward.
T
So
there
is
some
administrative
burden
in
in
being
able
to
do
that
that
you
have
to
turn
around
and
determine
eligibility
again.
That's
really
the
high
level
overview.
A
T
We
we're
going
to
repurpose
some
staff
that
we
have
already
that
you
know.
We've
we've
run
two
housing
programs
already
with
crf
dollars
and
one
bunch
of
dollars
and
we'll
run
cdbg
dollar.
At
the
same
time,
the
one
good
thing
about
the
cdbg
grant
is
we
have
30
months
to
spend
that
900
000
grant,
so
we'll
probably
put
that
to
the
side
unless
we
need
for
some
reason,
because
these
dollars
have
to
be
expended
by
december
31st
with
a
possibility
of
a
three-month
extension.
T
So
we'll
use
the
emergency
rental
assistance
grant
funds,
but
to
your
question
my
hope
would
be
sometime
by
middle
to
late
february.
We
can
get
up
and
running.
We
have
a
meeting
with
county
I.t
tomorrow.
There
are
data
reporting
requirements
for
this
grant
that
you
have
to
report
back
to
treasury
that
we've
not
captured
in
the
past.
So
we're
going
to
have
to
build
a
platform
to
be
able
to
capture
that
information.
J
So
I
have
a
question
phillip
and
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
your
initiative
on
this.
This
is
wonderful
the
and
I
think
it
was
with
the
cbdg
funds
that
that
was
buncombe
county
only
because
the
city
received
funds.
Now
with
this
grant
is
this
include
the
city
as
well.
T
T
Asheville
may
get
some
of
this
money
somewhere
once
I
said,
the
state
got
702
million
when
you
take
off
the
direct
assistance
grants
that
left
about
550
million
that
actually
went
to
the
state
and
they'll
divide
those
dollars
up.
They've
not
said
how,
but
to
those
municipalities
or
counties
that
weren't
direct
recipients,
whether
asheville
gets
dollars
or
not,
it
doesn't
matter.
We
can
serve
all
of
buncombe
county
with
these
dollars.
J
T
Absolutely
and-
and
they
can
also
those
funds
can
be
used
for
mortgage.
So
if
we
run
into
those
situations,
we
could
possibly
still
pay
mortgage
in
the
county
because
remember
they're
excluded
for
the
city
of
asheville,
so
you
know
we'll
try
to
to
use
the
two
parts
concurrently
to
make
sure
that
we're
covering
all
our
bases.
N
Q
T
N
T
More
than
likely
it'll
be
on
the
same
basis
that
we
use
the
crf
funds
that
we
had
a
call
center
number
or
an
inquiry
form
that
will
apply
and
then
we'll
we'll
take
that
inquiry
form
and
we'll
have
a
caseworker
call
them
there.
There
is
a
little
bit
more
administrative
burden
with
these
dollars.
T
The
crf
we
took
at
his
stations
a
lot
whether
it
was
from
landlords
or
from
clients.
With
this
we're
going
to
have
to
pass
a
little
bit
more
paperwork
back
and
forth
because
of
treasury
requirements
that
we'll
have
to
get
signed,
attestations
from
landlords
and
clients
and
probably
a
little
bit
more
along
the
lines
of
verifying
income
versus,
say,
client
statement
of,
and
you
have
a
couple
choices
to
do
that
so.
D
D
T
Yeah
and
we've
worked
with
county
communication,
you
know
with
crf,
we
did
some
slow
rollouts,
then
big
rollouts.
You
know
it's
a
matter
for
us
of
being
able
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
capacity
to
to
turn
cases
around
in
a
fairly
quick
period
of
time.
I
don't
you
know
my
goal
would
be
not.
Somebody
applies
them
within
a
couple
of
days.
Hopefully
we
could
turn
that
around
and
and
you
don't
have
people
waiting,
say
two
three
weeks.
I
know
with
nc
hope
program.
I
think
they've
only
probably
run
through.
T
A
A
B
A
M
A
D
A
To
a
lot
of
people
who
are
very,
have
a
lot
of
stress
associated
with
these
concerns
around
how
to
pay
their
bills
and
pass
bills
and
their
housing
costs
going
forward
as
we
work
through
the
last
stages,
hopefully
of
this
pandemic.
So
thank
you
very
much
all
right.
A
Therefore,
we've
got
the
civic
center.
We've
got
four
applicants
for
the
civic
center
board.
These
are
all
new
applicants,
so
these
are,
but
we
have
one
appointment
for
four
positions:
correct
lamar,.
A
So
so
the
question
to
us
is:
do
we
want
to
do
interviews
for
these
for
this
position
or
go
with
a
recommendation
on
this
one.
U
We
are
scheduled
to
do
interviews
on
february
the
16th
for
previously
noted
boards,
including
the
planning
board,
the
ashfield
planning
and
zoning
and
the
board
of
equalization
and
review.
We
will
have
february
the
16th.
D
G
D
That's
my
hunch
too.
Do
we
typically
get
recommendations
from
these
words.
U
Yeah
also
just
to
kind
of
bring
bring
it
back.
I
think
at
one
point
in
time
when
we
decided
to
put
the
category
aboard
the
advisory
funding,
advisory
quasi-judicial
and
the
governance
board,
we
kind
of
talked
about
advisory
being
a
recommendation
in
a
non-interview
category,
with
discretion
of
the
board
to
interview
when
wanted
to.
A
A
B
L
A
A
A
Second,
second,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed.
I
did
just
want
to
make
one
one
note
on
this,
so
we
do
have
a.
We
do.
Have
a
general
commission
policy
around
terms
on
boards
right
which.
G
A
We
we
have
it
as
two
I
think
in
in
commissioner
wells
has
served
to,
but
the
board
does
have
the
the
discretion
to
change
that.
I
think
it's
something
that
you
know
and
we've
had
some
other
positions
come
up
where
people
had
served
two
terms
done
a
great
job
and
wanted
to
serve
more
and
we've
been
pretty
consistent
about
the
two
terms
policy.
But
I
think
in
this
case
with
commissioner
wells
being
a
county
commissioner
and
wanting
to
serve
on
this
sport.
A
Anyway,
but
I
just
wanted
to
just
kind
of
acknowledge
that,
because
it
is
a
policy,
we
have
and
just
share
a
few
thoughts
on
that,
so
any
other
thoughts
or
comments
on
that.
Thank
you
for
serving
on
it.
You
do
a
great
job.
Of
course.
I.
U
A
Just
want
to
make
that
clear.
Thank
you
all
right
and
then
finally,
the
mountain
area,
workforce
development
board.
We
have
one
applicant
for
one
position.
U
I
have
one
second,
please,
yes,
sir,
just
want
to
touch
bases
with
you.
I
did
add
a
document
within
your
actual
documentation
and
it
is
on
general
statute
153
8-7-7,
and
it
is
in
reference
to
the
hhs
board
and
they
wanted
just
to
make
sure
that
they
have
clearance
or
information.
On
this
the
board.
I
did
highlight
a
section
that
says
that
the
board
has
to
actually
make
appointments
or
not
necessarily
appointments.
I'm
sorry,
let
me
read
it
real,
quick.
U
After
establishment
of
the
board,
the
board
shall
be
appointed
by
board
of
commissioners
from
nominees
presented
from
the
human
services
board,
and
they
want
to
make
sure
that
if
they're
going
to
do
interviews
that
the
board
will
also
do
interviews,
they
just
want
to
make
clear
that
clear
that
up,
and
so
they
can
tell
applicants.
U
Some
of
these
positions
are
appointed
by
positions,
but
there
are
some
positions
that
are
actual
citizens,
just
regular
citizens
that
apply.
So
I
just
want
to
get
clarification.
I
had
a
conversation
with
county
attorney,
hhs
director
and
some
other
members
about
this,
so
just
want
to
get
clarification,
so
they
can
make
these
applicants
aware
of
how
the
board
will
proceed.
A
Okay,
let
me
repeat
back
what
I
think
I
heard
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
I
think
that
right,
maybe
I'm
not
alone,
so
so,
there's
a
this
is
a
state
statute
that
says
the
the
health
and
human
services
board
should
conduct
interviews
and
present
a
list
of
applicants
to
the
board
of
commissioners
for
consideration
to
appointment
to
that
board.
Did
I
hear
that
right?
Yes,.
U
Q
U
Your
thoughts
on
this
and
and
they
already
have
a
process
where
they
vet
these
individuals,
where
they
actually
do
interviews.
They
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
for
clarity
that
they're
not
they're
letting
the
applicants
know
that
it
will
be
a
second
interview
process.
If
that's
what
the
board
chooses.
U
U
There
there
are
some
positions
that
are
specific.
U
That
have
to
be
on
this
board,
but
there
are
positions
that
are
not
required
to
be
special
specialized.
L
D
J
B
U
L
Well,
I
think
that
goes
back
to
our
whole
conversation
that
we've
been
having
about
trying
to
determine
these
boards
that
make
decisions
on
our
behalf
and
whether
or
not
we
do
want
to
have
those
interviews.
So
if
we
do,
I
mean
hhs
is
obviously
one
of
those
that
does
make
decisions,
then
we
would
not
be
following
our
own
thought
process
on
the
interview,
so
I
think
we
would
want
to
have
a
second
one
if
we
want
to
stay
consistent
to
the
way
we
have
been
doing
it.
U
G
A
Pretty
different
than
I
think
any
of
our
other
boards,
so
they're
required
to
make
nominations
to
the
board
of
commissioners
around
the
appointments
that
as
they
come
open,
but
is
it
correct
that
the
county
commission
has
complete
discretion
about
whether
to
accept
those
nominations
and
go
with
go
either?
Go
with
the
nomination
or
say
no,
we
think
there's
a
better
person
for
that
spot
and
it's
this
person
not
who
you
put
on
your
nominations
list
or
are
we
under
some
obligation
to
accept
these
nominations?
I
mean
it's
just
again.
A
C
A
C
B
U
D
And
to
re-clarify
my
question
in
my
head
out
loud:
they
nominate
not
just
the
professional
like
doctors,
but
also
the
at-large
members.
Okay,
that's
so
strange!
Okay!
Well,
I
guess.
A
So
I
guess
just
here's
what
seems
like
it's
a
known
thing:
they
have
to
do
nominations,
and
so
I
would
think
that
they
definitely
should
do
their
due
diligence
and
that
probably
for
them
involves
doing
interviews.
So
that
seems
like
that's
a
known
piece,
so
I
think,
if
they're
looking
for
feedback
from
us,
I
would
say
yeah.
Definitely
do
your
due
diligence.
A
But
maybe
maybe
we
need
to
kind
of
reflect
on
this
a
little
bit
more
because
of
the
unique
qualities
of
this
and
maybe
make
a
final
decision
about
like
do
we
do
we
join
them
and
do
we
sit
in
on
the
interviews
that
they
hold
or
do
we
have
a
second
round
or
something
like
that?
L
I
know
that
one
of
the
challenges
specifically
on
some
of
those
professional
positions
has
been
bringing
forward
more
than
one
person
yeah.
L
U
Commissioner,
edwards
is
correct
with
that
we
have
had
positions
posted
for
a
while
and
only
received
like
one
actual
applicant
for
those
specialized
positions.
So
I
do
want
to
reiterate
what
she
says
and
it
looks
as
though
we
will
have
five
positions
by
the
end
of
february.
That
will
be
wow.
A
A
Let
us
know
when
they
are.
If
there
are
commissioners
who
would
like
to
sit
on
them
and
like
listen
to
them,
then
we
could
do
that.
But
if
the
practical
reality
is
that
a
lot
of
these
positions
that
are
pretty
specialized
are
gonna
have
one
person,
then
we
probably
don't
need
to
re-interview
them.
If
you
know
I
don't
know,
do
you
have
any
other
thoughts,
commissioner?
Edwards.
L
A
Okay,
I
know
we're
kind
of
you
know.
I
mean
doing
something
a
little
different
here,
but
it
is.
It
is
unusual
that
there's
a
state
statute,
so
we
might
just
need
to
have
kind
of
a
particular
policy.
That's
for
hhs,
that's
different
than
the
other
boards
that
we
definitely
want
to
do
interviews
for
so
any
other
thoughts
on
this,
or
are
we
good
for
now
all
right,
mr
free?
Before
you
tell
us
about
the
closed
session,
let
me
make
two
quick
announcements
on
february
16th
at
3
p.m.
A
U
Yes,
sir,
for
the
excuse,
mr
chair
now
ask
one
more
question
for
the
interviews
on
february
16th.
Is
there
a
particular
time
to
start
these
at
and
it
looks
like
we
may
have
more
than
10,
maybe
around
15
applicants
that
we
will
possibly
have
to
interview.
It
depends
on
if
all
of
them
would
like
to
be
interviewed,
but
we
have
potentially
about
15
applicants
for
those.
A
We
have
three
boards,
we
have
a
briefing
meeting
starting
at
three
o'clock.
That
day
I
mean
my
suggestion
would
be
to
just
as
you
work
on
identifying
the
number
of
interviews.
You
know
we
need
ten
minutes
for
each
person,
so
just
kind
of
work
backwards
from
there
and
give
us
time
for
at
least
a
brief
break
before
the
three
o'clock.
I.
U
A
A
C
Oh
yes,
mr
chairman,
need
for
a
closed
session.
C
I
would
like
to
have
a
close
session
with
the
board
so
that
legal
staff
can
update
the
board
on
the
number
of
legal
matters
we
have
so
looking
for
a
motion
to
consult
with
attorneys,
employed
or
retained
by
the
public
body
in
order
to
preserve
the
attorney-client
privilege
as
follows:
heaton
versus
jack
van
ducken
at
all,
that's
buncombe
county
superior
court,
20
cvs,
3247
knowles
versus
buncombe
county
at
al
buncombe,
county
superior
court,
19
cvs,
505-0
hunter
versus
buncombe,
county
and
jack
van
duncan
buncombe
county
superior
court,
21
cvs,
168
lyles
versus
buncombe
county
at
al
buncombe,
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superior
court,
20
cvs,
3757.