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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting, Sept. 3, 2019
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This is the regular meeting for the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for Sept. 3, 2019. You can find the agenda for this meeting and others at buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
A
We
are
grateful
for
their
service
and
wish
them
a
safe
return
home
and,
finally,
let's
reflect
on
how
each
of
us
can
take
steps
in
the
coming
days
to
help
the
people
and
communities
recover
from
this
storm,
both
here
in
the
United
States
and
our
and
the
Bahama
Islands.
Please
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
We've
got
a
couple
of
announcements.
First,
we
want
to
announce
that
we
have
parking
validation
for
any
members
of
the
public
that
are
attending
the
meeting,
who
used
the
county's
parking,
deck
or
Asheville
transit
to
attend
the
meeting.
You
can
get
validation
for
your
parking
or
transit
passes
from
one
of
the
officers
who
is
in
attendance.
This
meeting
at
the
meeting
this
evening
see
them
on
the
way
out
and
that
validation
is
for
today
only
we
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
A
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
county
commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
would
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
A
B
A
Right
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
great
okay,
and
we
now
come
to
good
news.
We
have
a
Keith
Keith
Miller,
our
tax,
assessor
with
us,
and
he's
going
to
present
information
about
the
tax
assessment
award
certificate,
certificate
of
excellence
and
assessment
administration,
Keith
thanks
for
being
with
us
sure,
thank.
C
You
thank
you,
mr.
chairman
and
commissioners.
It's
always
good
to
come
here
with
good
news
that
we
can
share
with
everyone.
So
let
me
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background.
Most
assessment
of
professionals
across
the
United
States
and
internationally
belong
to
an
organization
called
the
International
Association
of
assessing
officers.
C
It
is
an
award
that
must
be
earned
and
it's
not
an
award
which
you
can
be
nominated
for
we
embarked
on
this
almost
a
year
ago,
I
asked
the
staff
to
accept
this
challenge
and
they
did,
and
we
put
together
a
team
and
a
leader
to
get
us
through.
This
took
us
seven
months
to
complete
it
over
a
hundred
and
forty-four
different
questions
that
we
have
to
answer,
which
requires
a
narrative,
written
narrative
and
supporting
documentation
of
that
narrative
on
how
we
conform
to
those
standards.
C
Some
of
those
items,
some
of
those
areas
of
interest
to
the
Iwao,
is
management,
staffing
levels,
information,
technology,
land
records,
data
collection,
cells,
ratio,
studies,
land
valuation,
residential
valuation,
commercial
valuation,
value,
defense,
customer
service.
So
this
was
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
take
a
deeper
dive
into
our
procedures
and
our
business
processes
that
we
have
every
day
to
identify
our
strengths
and
weaknesses
compared
to
the
standards
in
which
joão
has
set
for
offices
such
as
ours.
So,
along
with
that
too,
it's
a
great
team-building
organ.
C
It's
a
great
team-building
effort
for
the
staff
to
come
together
and
work
on
this
project
together,
helps
everyone
understand
better
what
we
do
every
day
and
why
we
do
it
and
what's
important
to
us.
So
what
what
this
done
for
does
for
us,
and
why
did
we
do
this?
Improve
morale,
confidence
in
our
staff
promotes
communication,
collaboration
and
team
working.
C
C
Everyone
else
please
stand
so
these
are
personal
property,
real
property
assessment
staff.
Everybody
had
some
piece
of
this
project
and
everybody
worked
on
this
project
together.
They
have
really
worked
hard.
They
deserve
the
recognition
and
in
July,
the
board
of
directors
of
the
Adebayo
awarded
Buncombe,
County,
the
certificate
of
excellence
and
assessment
administration,
and
that's
due
to
this
staff
and
to
the
support
that
we
get
from
this
board
and
from
our
team
of
county
management.
So
we
appreciate
all
your
support.
Thank
you.
C
A
G
F
A
I
Hello,
thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
me
to
have
some
time
on
the
agenda
today.
I'm
so
excited
about
the
opportunities
that
are
presented
in
this
planning
process
and
I'd
like
to
give
a
special
thanks
to
the
county
manager
and
Tim
Love
and
the
team
at
the
county.
That's
been
working
with
us
through
the
beginning
of
this
process.
You
know
I'm
excited
about
how
much
benefit
the
residents
of
Buncombe
County
will
derive
from
the
strategies
that
come
out
of
this
plan.
I
So
I'd
like
to
just
very
briefly
provide
some
context
and
I
promise
I'll
move
quickly
on
to
the
details
of
the
planning
process.
As
you
know,
the
BCT
da
is
a
public
authority
with
a
mission
to
benefit
the
community
by
attracting
overnight
visitors,
people
to
visit
Buncombe
County
and
that
expands
a
customer
base
for
local
businesses
and
provides
jobs
and
generates
tax
revenue.
The
BCT
da
is
is
appointed
to
oversee
the
administration
of
the
occupancy
tax,
which
is
a
funding
source
that
was
created
in
1983.
I
The
law
specifies
that
75%
of
the
tax
revenue
is
used
to
promote
Buncombe,
County
and
attract
overnight
visitors
and,
of
course,
the
occupancy
tax
is
charged
on
top
of
sales
tax.
That's
paid
by
people
staying
overnight
in
paid
accommodations
in
the
county
in
2001,
the
tax
rate
was
increased
to
create
the
tourism
product,
Development
Fund,
which
has
become
the
largest
source
of
grant
funding
in
Western
North
Carolina,
before
the
creation
of
the
dogwood
trust.
I
Since
2001,
the
TDA
has
awarded
forty
four
million
dollars
to
39
community
projects
and
the
tourism
management
and
investment
plan
now
commonly
referred
to
as
team
up.
For
short,
is
the
next
generation
of
that
program,
so
the
public
benefit.
This
investment
is
bringing
more
money
into
our
local
economy
for
the
benefit
of
the
community.
In
total
about
3.9
million
people
are
attracted
to
spend
the
night.
I
They
spend
two
billion
dollars
a
year
in
Buncombe
County,
that's
money
in
cash
registers
of
local
businesses,
and
that
puts
more
than
eighteen
thousand
people
to
work
in
tourism
related
jobs
that
all
it
also
generates.
Almost
two
hundred
million
dollars
of
state
and
local
tax
revenue,
including
thirty-one
percent
of
all
the
sales
tax,
that's
generated
in
the
county
and
tourism
related
businesses
pay
about
nineteen
percent
of
all
the
property
tax.
I
I
It
also
requires
that
projects
significantly
increase
overnight
visitation
to
the
county,
and
it
specifies
that
projects
have
to
be
evaluated
by
a
product,
Development
Fund
committee
and
awarded
by
the
BC
TDA,
and
so
here's
kind
of
a
list
of
the
projects
that
have
received
funding
like
I,
said
44
million
dollars
to
39
community
projects.
You
know
in
a
lot
of
communities.
Occupancy
tax
dollars
are
dedicated
to
one
big
thing,
like
Convention,
Center
I.
Think,
what's
special
about
this.
I
The
way
that
it's
structured
here
is
that
this
money
has
built
things
that
helped
to
attract
customers
to
the
community,
but
also
has
made
things
that
are
enjoyed
by
residents,
including
recreation
facilities,
museums
sports
facilities
and
infrastructure
and
parks
in
our
most
recent
funding
funding
cycle
in
2018.
These
are
the
projects
that
received
funding
very
pleased
with
a
set
of
cultural
assets
that
are
really
important
to
the
heritage
of
the
area.
The
ymi
Cultural
Center
received
$800,000
and
the
matching
grant
requirement
was
waived.
I
What's
really
special
about
that
project
is
that
these
funds
will
help
the
ymi
to
build
a
source
of
revenue
through
creating
an
event
center
so
that
it
can
be
rented
the
leaf.
Global
Art
Center
will
be
right
across
the
street
as
an
anchor
to
the
block.
The
Stevens
Lee
Museum
at
the
Siemens
Lee
Recreation
Center
also
was
waived.
The
matching
grant
requirement
to
preserve
and
present
that
really
important
part
of
our
community's
heritage
and
the
african-american
contributions
and
legacy
to
the
community.
I
The
4th
grant
was
funding
lights
and
parking
at
the
Arboretum
that
will
enable
them
to
generate
more
revenue
by
staying,
open,
later
and
hosting
more
events.
So
in
ninth
in
2018,
the
grants
were
awarded
in
October
and
the
TDA
approved
a
plan
to
take
a
more
strategic
approach
to
the
allocation
of
this
funding
source
and
I
can't
emphasize
enough
what
a
monumental
shift.
This
approach
is
from
the
application
based
process
that
awarded
one
year's
worth
of
revenue
at
a
time
into
the
project
that
I'll
be
describing
today.
I
Nobody
wants
Asheville
to
be
a
place
that
is
only
about
tourism,
but
community.
Cornerstones
of
this
planning
process
include
community
input
and
collaboration
with
public
entities
to
find
alignment
between
the
legislative
mandate
of
the
fund,
the
priorities
of
the
residential
community
and
the
opportunities
to
manage
tourism
and
sustaining
and
enhancing
the
quality
of
place.
I
Our
goal
is
to
align
the
needs
of
the
community
with
the
requirements
of
the
fund.
We
are
building
on
the
robust
application
based
process
and
embracing
a
community
based
investment
strategy.
The
new
approach
has
three
important
differences
from
the
typical
approaches
that
have
been
taken
in
the
past.
The
first
is
the
significant
amount
of
community
engagement
that
will
help
prioritize
the
needs
and
opportunities.
I
We
think
that
the
three
Commissioner
districts
provide
a
pretty
good
system
for
categorizing
potential
projects
geographically
and
evaluating
opportunities
to
develop
tourism
across
the
county,
while
also
building
amenities
for
that
the
community
enjoys
so
a
little
bit
about
the
planning
process.
We've
embarked
on
a
process
of
collaboration,
and
so
you
know
that
kind
of
inherently
means
that
at
the
very
beginning,
you
don't
really
know
exactly
what
will
happen
and
we've
really
embraced.
I
This
process
of
you
know
welcoming,
comment
and
welcoming
collaboration,
creating
a
framework
that
will
guide
this
process
but
embarking
on
a
process
that
may
not
have
predetermined
outcomes
and
we're
really
excited
about
the
way
that
it's
progressed
already
and
the
potential
that
is
developing
for
members
of
the
public.
Who
would
like
more
information
about
team
F,
we've
created
a
website,
it's
Asheville,
CVB,
comm,
/,
TM,
IP
and
all
of
the
documents
are
posted
there.
I
There's
a
feedback
button,
there's
a
request
for
more
information,
so
that
you're
notified
when
anything
changes
and
there's
some
q
and
A's.
So
this
is
the
basic
framework
that
was
developed
to
set
goals
and
a
timetable.
We
have
just
finished
phase
one
and
a
report
will
be
presented
at
a
tourism
management
forum.
That's
in
development
for
October,
22nd
or
23rd,
so
stay
tuned
for
those
details
and
the
project
is
scheduled
to
wrap
up
in
April
and
I'll
talk
more
about
these
phases
in
just
a
minute.
I
wanted
to
touch.
First
on
the
structure.
I
40
map,
that's
been
created
to
kind
of
harness
the
collective
brainpower
of
the
community
and
it
breaks
down
in
kind
of
these
categories,
and
we've
established
a
community
leadership
Council
that
has
50
members
those
that
membership
list
is
published
on
the
website,
and
you
know
it
represents
all
of
the
townships
and
municipalities
with
the
managers
and
the
elected
officials
from
each
as
well.
As
you
know,
many
many
community
organizations
that
represent
a
really
wide
range
of
perspectives.
I
There's
a
steering
committee,
that's
comprised
of
people
who
have
formerly
served
on
the
tourism
product
development
fund,
and
so
their
job
is
to
guide
and
give
feedback
to
the
consultants
who
have
been
hired
for
this
project
and
also
to
you
know,
kind
of
help
guide
projects
so
that
they
align
according
to
the
legislative
mandate
in
phase
one
I'll
share
more
specifically
what
we've
done,
but
Buncombe
County
residents
are
providing
a
great
deal
of
input.
We've
had
really
terrific
amounts
of
public
engagement
in
this
and
I'll
share
with
you.
I
What
that
wasn't
a
minute,
but
also
importantly,
our
municipal
partners,
project
teams,
I
can't
say
how
much
we
appreciate
these
folks,
because
you
know
we
know
that
both
the
city
of
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
staff
have
a
lot
of
demands
and
priorities
to
manage,
and
we
really
appreciate
them.
Leaning
in
and
helping
us
develop
this
strategy.
The
tourism
product
development
fund
committee,
of
course,
by
legislative
mandate,
will
have
to
evaluate
these
projects
according
to
the
criteria
and,
of
course,
the
BC
TDA
will
approve
the
allocation
of
funds
so
I've.
I
Given
you
a
lot
of
detail
in
this
deck,
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
every
point,
I
just
wanted
to
provide
some
reference
materials
but
phase.
One
is
all
about
assessment
and
creating
a
common
set
of
information
that
can
be
used
by
the
community
and
stakeholders
as
we
move
through
this
process.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
data.
I
That's
being
collected
economic
data
data
about
how
people
move
through
the
county,
where
visitors
are
where
there
are
their
areas
of
crowding,
and
so
the
deliverables
at
the
end
of
this
phase
at
the
meeting
in
October,
will
be
a
conditions
and
existing
conditions,
analysis
and
it
will
be
presented
to
the
TDA,
but
also
at
this
public
forum,
the
week
of
October
21st,
it
looks
like
it'll,
be
the
22nd
or
23rd.
So
what
we
have
done
in
this
phase
is
conduct
two
input
meetings
with
the
community
leadership
council.
I
So
far,
three
public
input
workshops,
we've
had
meetings
with
city
and
county
staff
and
other
community
groups.
We've
completed
a
community
sentiment
survey
that
was
conducted
with
a
representative
sample
and
also
an
invitation
for
anyone
who
wanted
to
complete
the
survey.
I
think
it
gave
every
opportunity
to
collect
honest
feedback
about
people's
feelings
about
tourism.
We've
had
over
2,000
responses
to
that
survey.
I
It
was
open
from
August
1st
until
August
23rd,
and
we
also
did
a
visitor
sentiment
survey
to
collect
feedback
about
the
quality
of
visitor
experiences,
while
they
here
in
Buncombe
County
and
then
the
existing
conditions
analysis
that
I
talked
about
earlier,
so
we're
starting
phase
two,
which
is
all
about
discovery
and
so
phase.
One
creates
a
common
set
of
information
to
work
with
phase
two
is
about
bringing
all
of
these
projects
together,
and
your
team
has
been
great
about
working
ahead
of
the
process
and
kind
of
collecting
some
ideas.
So
those
are
coming.
I
So
PG
AV
is
our
consulting
team
they'll,
be
back
in
Asheville,
September,
10th
and
11th
with
another
set
of
meetings
that
are
more
focused
on
project
ideas.
The
TDA
will
receive
a
detailed
update
of
the
process
not
of
the
results
of
phase
1
but
of
the
process
at
its
meeting
on
September
25th
I
apologize
for
the
first
names,
the
informality
of
we
have
two
meetings
scheduled
with
myself
and
the
city
manager
and
the
county
manager,
and
then
additional
meetings
will
be
scheduled
after
the
tourism
management
plan.
I
So
phase
3
is
about
collaboration
and
you
know
bringing
potential
projects
together
and
then
in
phase
4
will
be
about
the
prioritization,
because
you
know
everything
that
you
do
deals
with
finite
resources
for
a
long
list
of
priorities,
and
so
in
phase
4.
These
hopefully
will
have
scope
and
cost
for
many
of
these
projects
and
we'll
be
able
to
look
at
how
can
they
be
funded
over
a
long
time
period?
So
rather
than
say
in
this
funding
cycle,
we
have
a
certain
amount
of
money
to
allocate.
I
We
can
look
out
forward
into
a
planning
horizon
to
say.
Ok,
these
are
the
things
that
are
important
and
that
have
the
best
return
on
investment,
the
goals
of
the
funds
perspective,
but
also
from
the
priority
of
the
community's
perspective,
and
we
can
do
some
problem-solving
around
how
to
do
how
to
allocate
that
funding
into
future
years.
F
Stephanie
I
got
one
that
you,
you
know
will
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
you
might
help
the
you
mentioned
about
the
districts.
You
know
you
have
any
thought
on
how
you
know.
You're
gonna,
get
collaboration
from
you,
know
and
comments
from
all
three
districts.
I
mean
it's
a
it's
not
an
easy
thing
to
do.
I
know
you
get
a
lot
of
comments
from
myself.
You
know
about
about
different
areas
and
I'm
sure
from
other
commissioners,
which
is
one
way
to
do
it.
But
I
didn't
know
if
you
had
any
other
thoughts
on
that.
You.
I
Know
we've
had
we
have
invited
the
managers
of
the
towns
and
the
elected
officials
of
the
towns
I
think
the
Community
Leadership
Council
is
kind
of
a
really
good
format
for
collecting
that
information.
We've
had
you
know,
county
staff
who
have
had
individual
meetings
with
representatives
throughout
the
county.
I
The
survey
was
widely
widely
distributed
and
publicized
and
had
a
lot
of
participation
in
it,
and
so
you
know
I
think
the
nature
of
this
is
that,
rather
than
you
know,
just
accepting
a
set
of
applications
and
moving
forward,
you
know
it's
a
process
that
is
inclusive
and
allows
people
to
join
in.
You
know
as
we
move
forward,
so
you
know
I
mean
we're
at
county
level
organization
and
have
relationships
throughout
the
county,
and
so
I
mean
we
before
this
process
began.
A
So
I
realize
you
know
this
work
in
progress
right.
So
thanks
for
the
update,
thanks
for
coming
and
I,
think
that's
a
great
idea
to
have
this
sort
of
process
for
thinking
about.
You
know
the
significant
source
of
resources
that
will
be
generated
over
the
long
term.
So
thanks
for
thanks
for
taking
a
step
back
and
looking
at
you
know
what
makes
sense
to
know.
We
could
really
accomplish
ever
over
many
years
so
and
for
being
here
tonight
to
give
us
this
update
as
well
or
any
like
just
where
you're
at
in
the
process.
A
Right
now
are
they're
sort
of
I
mean,
like
you
said,
there's
lots
of
ideas
are
certain
things
sort
of
emerging
now
that
you
could
share
with
us
or
you
know,
what's
the
you
know,
what's
the
public
input
or
or
kind
of
some
of
the
headlines
that
you
would
you
would
share
with
us
at
this
point
in
the
process?
I.
I
I
It's
a
tourism
management
and
investment
plan
to
develop
community
assets,
and
so
you
know
that
we
kind
of
recognize
that
the
impacts
of
tourism,
you
know,
are
creating
some
experiences
in
our
community
that
residents
don't
like,
and
there
are
feelings
that
you
know
that
we're
being
overwhelmed
by
tourism,
and
so
you
know,
I'm
sure
that
we
will
have
projects
that
are
throughout
the
whole
county.
But
I
think
it's
also
important
that
we
look
to
some
urban
planning
strategies
to
help
maintain
the
quality
of
the
experience.
I
You
know
that
residents
are
having
in
their
home,
and
so
I
think
that
some
things
that
you
know
a
lot
of
people
call
infrastructure
that
we
might
call
place,
you
know,
are
definitely
things
that
are
high
priority
to
you
know
understand
how
we
can
use
placemaking
to
better
distribute
visitors
and
create
better
economic
opportunities
in
lots
of
different
places,
and
you
know
deal
with
some
of
the
things
that
you
know
are
priorities
for
maintaining
our
infrastructure
and
the
quality
of
our
place
and
I.
Think
that
will
happen.
You
know
in
lots
of
different
areas.
Okay,.
A
A
You
know
the
as
you
are
well
aware,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
in
the
community
around
the
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
folks
who
would
like
to
see
the
formula
of
the
revenue
from
the
hotel
occupancy
fee
be
a
little
different
than
it
is
today,
so
the
but
the
premise
of
the
kind
of
public
input
process
for
this
process.
That
was
you
know
the
law
is
what
the
law
is
today
right.
So
how
would
it
make
sense
to
program
those
funds
going
forward?
A
So
I
guess
just
the
one
sort
of
process
concern
I
would
just
raise
and
I'm
sure
you
all
have
thought
about
this.
That
was,
you
know,
I'm
sure
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
who
would
like
to
kind
of
talk
about
ideas
for
what
you
know
if
it's
lit,
if
the
conversation
is
limited
to
just
capital
investments,
you
know,
are
we
missing
out
on
part
of
the
conversation
for
what
some
of
those
different
management
strategies
you
know
might
might
look
at
it
in
the
future?
A
I
You
know
the
responsibility
of
the
TDA
and
the
staff
of
the
TDA
is
to
work
within
the
legal
parameters.
You
know
that
are
established
right
now,
but
that
doesn't
really
put
limits
on
this
process
to
you
know,
identify
priorities
and
you
know
and
then
to
understand
what
is
a
fit
for
the
legislation
as
it
is
now
or
as
it
may
be.
You
know
I
think
that
too
you
know
for
the
first
time
ever
to
in
a
very
structured
way,
I
assess
what
our
needs
are
identify
a
priority
list.
I
It
will
have
some
price
tag
on
it.
You
know
that
price
tag
may
come
within.
You
know
the
restrictions
of
you
know
the
current
amount
of
revenue,
or
it
may
create
a
wish
list
that
has
so
much
community
support
and
tourism
industry
support
that
it
would
create
a
shared
vision
for
what
we'd
like
to
accomplish
in
the
future.
Mm-Hmm.
A
If
there
were
you
know,
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
have
the
position
that
they'd
like
to
see
it
changed
a
lot
of
folks
have
said:
no,
you
know.
We
really
believe
that
we
have.
You
know
we
have
the
formula
right.
It's
been
successful
in
all
these
different
ways.
So
do
you
think
that
this
process
might
lead
to
some
greater
community
common
ground
around
this
question?
That's
been,
you
know,
pretty
we've
been
pretty
divided
as
a
community
on
it.
A
I
That
this
this
process
incorporates
many
very
important
differences
from
how
we've
approached
this
in
the
past.
Aside
from
the
structural
differences,
you
know
that
we've
talked
about
before
you
know.
One
is
an
assessment
of
you
know
how
you
know.
How
can
we
look
at
this
framework
differently
than
we
do
right
now?
You
know,
we've
been
very
focused
on
bricks
and
mortar.
Well,
you
know.
The
intention
of
this
system
is
to
create
things
that
last
a
long
time
right
and
so
I
think
there'll
be
a
new
set
of
eyes
around.
I
You
know
what
that
means
and
what
you
know
really
qualifies
for
funding
we're
doing.
You
know
a
whole
amount
of
analysis
on
you
know.
How
can
this
money
be
used?
Can
you
know
for
debt
financing-
and
you
know
some
creative
ways
of
looking
at
how
this
money
can
support
things
that
have
we
haven't
had
that
toolkit
in
the
past?
I
You
know
we'll
end
up,
you
know
kind
of
creating
this
list
of
priorities,
and
you
know
we
haven't
had
a
framework
before
to
come
together
and
evaluate
you
know
really:
I
mean
everything's
a
trade-off
right,
so
I
think
if
we
just
embarked,
and
we
focus
on
doing
our
very
best
work
to
embrace
this
collaborative
process
and
identify
this
kind
of
shared
vision.
You
know
I,
think
we'll
see
where
we
end
up
at
the
end
and
how
much
money
is
needed.
I
A
Commissioners
other
questions
or
comments
all
right.
Well,
I'm,
Stephanie,
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
and
for
the
update
I.
You
know,
I
I
do
think
a
lot
of
good
is
gonna.
Come
out
of
this,
and
I
can
tell
a
lot
of
work
is
going
into
it,
and
so
I
appreciate
y'all
really
again
taking
the
time
and
creating
the
space
for
this
conversation
and
I
and
I
do
hope
that
you
know.
A
Do
you
hope
there
will
be
I
mean
that
you
know
the
concern
I've
raised
is
the
only
kind
of
process
concern
I
have
is
that
you
know
if
it
is
just
limited
to
capital?
Do
we
do
we
miss
part
of
the
pinch
of
potential
conversation
but
I'm
sure
that
the
people
of
the
community
will
not
hesitate
to
share
their?
You
know
their
perspective
on
all
these
issues
as
they
they
have
been
very
willing
to
do
in
the
past.
I'm
sure
you
will
continue
to
hear
you
know
those
points
of
view
as
well.
I.
I
Appreciate
that
and
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
the
discussions
are
not
limited
to
capital.
You
know
in
the
end,
the
money
will
be
allocated
according
to
you,
know
the
legislation,
but
we're
not
taking
things
off
the
table,
and
you
know
in
the
end
we
may
have.
You
know
priorities
that
we
work
together
to
find
other
sources
of
funding.
You
know
to
accomplish
them
or
look
for
flexibility
and
the
resources
that
are
available.
Thank.
A
J
Mr.
chairman,
commissioners,
a
couple
weeks
ago,
we
met
in
closed
session
and
I'll
just
start
by
kicking
off
with
this
is
one
of
the
nuances
with
closed
session
rules
that
we
don't
deal
with
very
often.
So
let
me
just
tell
you
what
that
is.
We're
of
course
allowed
to
go
in
a
closed
session
to
discuss
with
attorneys
employed
by
or
retained
by
the
Commission
to
discuss
and
retain
legal
matters
and
preserve
privilege.
In
this
particular
instance,
couple
weeks
ago
we
met-
and
this
board
gave
instruction
as
to
settlement
Authority
for
mediated
settlement
conference.
J
This
is
the
RAB
builders
case
that
we've
talked
about
a
couple
times
before
in
April
of
2018
Rab
Builders
had
a
Cu
P,
that's
a
conditional
use
permit
application
before
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
the
Board
of
Adjustment
denied
the
application.
That
matter
was
appealed
to
Superior
Court,
the
Superior
Court
affirmed
the
denial
that
case
went
on
to
the
Court
of
Appeals
and
was
pending
as
of
several
days
ago
in
the
interim
in
March.
No,
in
May
of
this
year,
Rab
builders
filed
a
federal
lawsuit,
alleging
constitutional
violations
of
presumably
for
violating
their
due
process
rights.
J
It's
important
to
know
that
at
all
levels,
thus
far
at
the
Board
of
Adjustment
level
and
at
the
Superior
Court
level,
the
the
the
efforts
of
planning
staff
and
of
our
legal
team,
both
internal
and
external
lawyers
I
think,
did
a
great
job.
What
happened
in
July
of
this
year
on
July
11th,
the
state
legislature
fundamentally
shifted
the
risk
and
burdens
of
how
these
cases
are
to
be
presented
and
and
dealt
with
going
forward.
That
legislation
said
in
part.
J
That
this
clarifies
the
intent
of
existing
law
and
apply
to
ordinances
adopted
before,
on
or
after
the
effective
date
of
this
legislation.
What
that
did
for
us
as
a
motivating
factor
to
settle
this
case
was
that
it
all
but
eliminated
our
defenses
of
mootness.
This
rap
builders
no
longer
had
an
option
to
buy
the
property,
they
didn't
own,
the
property
they
didn't
have
a
development
plan.
They
could
continue
with.
So
what
was
there
to
fight
about?
And
that's
what
we're
going
to
the
court
of
appeals
about
very
shortly?
J
The
deadline
to
have
filed
that
appeal
and
gone
before
the
court
of
appeals
was
today
so
that
would
have
been
set
for
calendar
in
a
couple
weeks.
The
other
motivating
factor
to
move
forward
with
the
mediated
settlement
conference
was
that
that
legislation
also
says
that
the
court
shall
award
attorneys
fees
to
the
plaintiff.
It
doesn't
mean
if
they
win,
it
just
says
they
shall
award
those
attorneys
fees.
So
it
was
our
goal
to
go
in
to
mediate
settlement
conference.
To
try
to
settle
this.
J
Now
we
have
learned
some
things
from
this
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
board
understands
I
mean
this
is
once
every
10
years.
In
my
experience
with
the
county
almost
20
years,
a
suit
like
this
will
come
along
and
just
snowball
out
of
control.
In
this
case,
we
have
made
some
positive
steps
to
make
sure
our
application
process
is
more
strict
and
easier
to
follow,
and
it's
easier
to
understand
who
the
applicant
is
and
who
the
applicant
isn't
also
to
make
sure
that
cases
are
worked
in
a
more
methodical
procedure.
J
So
again,
I
mean
this
case
was
settled
for
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
The
cases
had
the
money
has
been
transferred.
The
Court
of
Appeals
decision
has
been
released
in
the
federal
lawsuit
has
been
dismissed
and
I'll
be
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions
if
I
can
all
right.
Thank
thank
you
Michael,
and
this
is
again
it's
just
a
report.
Only
no
vote
is
necessary
by
the
board.
F
J
If
a
case
goes
to,
the
court
of
appeals
is
anybody's,
guess
is
what's
gonna
happen,
so
that's
that's
always
something
to
worry
about
anything.
That's
on
appeal,
anything
that
goes
to
a
jury
and
the
mediation
mediations
are
designed
and
we're
bound
by
rule
48
of
the
rules
of
evidence
to
keep
certain
things
that
were
talked
about
confidential
because
you
want
to
come
in
and
you
want
to
see
the
whole
case
warts
and
all
to
try
to
prompt
a
settlement,
but
the
the
the.
A
J
J
J
Attorneys
fees
from
the
judge,
but
shall
award
them
right
right
so
clearly,
I
mean
much
of
this.
Legislation
is
designed
to
promote
development,
to
limit
the
hand
of
denial
at
the
local
level,
but
at
the
same
time
it
makes
the
local
jurisdictions
more
mindful
of
what
their
ordinances
do
and
can't
do
and
make
sure
that
applicants
do
in
fact
comply
with
the
ordinances
as
written.
So.
F
Just
one
other
thing
for
me:
you'd,
you
would
use
the
term
mediation.
I
just
want
people
to
make
sure
they
understand
this.
As
a
result
of
that
mediation,
not
just
you
know,
numbers
being
thrown
around
and
tried
you
know
from
us,
but
it's
that's
a
result
of
the
of
the
mediation
and
that
negotiation
part
of
it
absolutely
Thanks.
A
Michael
I'm,
sorry,
another
question:
okay,
could
you
just
say
a
little
bit
more
about
so
so
we
had
a
closed
session
to
be
briefed
by
counsel
on
this
ongoing
legal
issue,
and
the
Commission
gave
some
guidance
to
the
attorneys
representing
the
county's
position
on
this
and
through
this
mediation,
there's
been
a
settlement
reached
that
we
yet
so
we
don't
actually
have
to
vote
in
open
session
to
ratify
that
decision.
Under
our
policies,
the
I
just.
J
A
J
Sir
I
believe
it
was
two
weeks
ago
we
brought
before
the
board
the
quarterly
settlements,
and
we've
been
doing
that
for
a
better
part
of
a
year
now
to
try
to
get
back
on
a
cycle.
The
statute
authorizes
settlement
of
claims
at
almost
any
level
and
what
the
end
part
of
the
this
statute-
143
3
18,
11
a
3
and
that's,
if
you're
in
a
in
a
closed
session
for
the
body
to
give
its
attorneys
authority
to
settle
claims.
So
you
go
forth
and
do
good
and
settle
it.
J
If
that
happens
in
a
closed
session,
then
that
settlement
shall
be
reported
to
the
public
body
and
entered
into
the
minutes
as
soon
as
possible.
Okay,
so
the
numbers
are
larger,
this
time,
but
same
processes.
Those
quarterly
reports,
because
the
last
quarterly
report
was
a
fender-bender
for
like
fourteen
hundred
dollars.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much.
A
G
J
A
J
J
Recently
we
noticed
that
there's
a
discrepancy
between
the
procurement
policy
and
the
contracts
policy,
and
that
is
simply
in
the
procurement
policy.
This
board,
under
budgetary
authority,
authorizes
the
county
manager
or
designee
to
enter
into
certain
contracts
as
budgeted
for
departments
service
contracts,
contracts
that
might
be
within
the
general
discretion
of
general
services.
Things
like
that,
just
run-of-the-mill
things
that
this
board
approves
in
every
budget
cycle.
The
contracts
policy,
however,
says
that
that
managers
ability
to
appoint
a
designee
is
only
through
the
budget
ordinance,
but
we
don't
do
that
anymore.
J
In
the
first
paragraph,
we
just
want
to
say
that
the
support
delegate,
certain
signature
authority
to
the
county
manager
as
set
forth
in
the
procurement
policy
and
to
make
sure
everyone
understands
this,
doesn't
delegate
stuff
that
this
board
has
to
do
real
estate
contracts,
economic
development
agreements
and
other
things
of
a
formal
nature
in
contracting
or
bidding.
So
this
is
just
a
simple
cleanup
of
what
we
put
in
place
or
this
board
put
in
place.
Last
November.
J
A
H
A
A
All
in
favor?
Please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right!
Thank
you!
Michael,
okay
and
next
up
we're
gonna
talk
about
a
resolution
authorizing
the
county
manager
to
enter
into
a
lease
agreement
with
the
city
of
Asheville
for
the
property
where
the
east
Asheville
library
is
located
and
Jim
Linton.
Our
library
director
will
present.
K
A
L
L
So
we
had
a
subsequent
meeting
in
March
to
receive
additional
feedback
from
the
public
about
those
features,
and
they
continue
to
express
how
important
those
elements
were
to
have
a
playground
with
the
types
of
things
you
expect,
such
as
swing
sets,
playsets,
etc,
and
so
we
took
that
to
heart
and
also
the
city
did
too
and
being
incorporated
as
part
of
this.
Lease
agreement
and
truly
I
feel
that
it
is
going
to
be
an
enhancement
to
that
property
that
we
continue
operating.
L
Those
features
it'll
make
it
a
true
family
destination
and
I
think
it'll
overall,
be
a
benefit
to
the
project.
Did
the
Tunnel
Road
crossing
was
something
also
negotiated
as
part
of
the
lease
agreement
and
it's
an
awkward
crossing
right
now,
where
tunnel,
road,
intersects,
Avon,
it's
not
very
safe
and
adding
that
feature
we
do
think
would
be
a
benefit
and
as
a
mission,
these
are
additional
costs
that
weren't
anticipated
as
part
of
the
original
budget,
but
we
feel
that
we
can
hopefully
once
the
final
costs
come
in,
we
can
work
within
that
budget.
L
Parks
and
Recreation
has
received
a
matching
grant
for
the
playground
of
thirty-five
thousand
dollars.
The
planning
departments,
also
negotiation
or
in
talks
I
should
say
with
NCDOT,
to
look
at
their
potential
participation
in
the
in
the
tunnel
road
crossing
we're
planning
to
continue
to
fully
fund
that
as
part
of
the
project
budget,
you
know
nothing's
guaranteed,
but
we
are
having
those
conversations
and
just
as
a
reminder,
this
is
the
the
property
and
the
red
outline
will
be
the
the
leased
areas
about
1.8
acres.
L
If
you're
familiar
with
the
the
site
is
it
exists
now
the
existing
library
will
be
demolished,
as
we
mentioned,
and
we'll
move
to
the
rear
upper
left-hand
corner
of
the
property.
Current
square
footage
of
the
building
is
2700
square
feet.
It's
gonna
jump
to
15,000
she'll,
be
significant
and
be
a
major
upgrade
and
a
real
game-changer
for
that
library,
to
say
the
least,
our
anticipated
timeline.
The
construction
documents
actually
are
now
100%
complete.
L
As
of
this
week,
the
project
will
go
out
to
bid
on
September
12th
and
then
the
bids
will
be
due
back
in
mid-october,
where
we'll
get
our
final
cost
estimate
and
then
we're
hoping
to
break
ground
sometime
in
October
there
abouts
with
a
anticipated
completion
date
of
October
2020
at
ten
to
twelve
month
construction
cycle,
and
since
it's
been
a
little
while,
since
we
talked
about
it,
we
thought
we'd
include
a
few
images
there.
We
don't
have
final
renderings
of
what
the
building
will
look
like,
but
from
the
existing
construction
documents.
L
These
are
just
a
reminder
of
some
of
the
images
we
showed
previously
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
the
building
will
look
like.
It's
gonna
have
lots
of
windows,
lots
of
natural
light,
which
will
be
a
wonderful
improvement
if
you've
been
in
that
building
right
now,
it's
very
claustrophobic.
It
was
wonderful
for
its
time,
but
it's
certainly
in
need
of
improvement,
as
we
mentioned
over
on
the
right
side,
which
should
give
you
that
aerial
view,
you'll
see,
there's
kind
of
a
plaza
area
and
going
off
to
the
right.
L
There
will
be
where
the
playground
will
be
relocated
to
so
and
that's
near
Lin
stone
court
if
you're
familiar
with
that
area,
so
really
exciting.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
wonderful
feature
for
the
community.
One
of
the
things
I'm
really
excited
about
too,
is
that
it's
gonna
be
a
game-changer
for
the
library
system
as
well.
We
haven't
built
a
library
in
a
number
of
years,
as
you
know,
and
libraries
have
changed
a
lot
in
the
intervening
decades
and
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
a
real
showpiece
for
what's
possible
in
libraries
today.
L
A
M
N
N
F
I've
got
a
question,
a
comment:
that's
in
response
to
the
public
I've
heard
that
several
times
is
there
not
a
way
that
we
can
get
that
information
and
or
is
it
on
the
website
or
is
it
you
know?
Are
people
just
not
able
to
get
to
it
or
cuz
I
know
we're
not
I
mean
it
seems
to
me,
like
a
reasonable
question,
to
know.
F
E
F
E
We
have
not
done
cost
Center
analysis,
but
we
can
look
at
true
costs.
We
do
know
what
we
put
as
operating
expenses
and
we
can
truly
look
at
the
indirect
costs
and
everything
we
do
have
those
numbers,
but
we
haven't
put
those
together.
So
that's
something
that
we
can
put
together
as
you
bring
forward
our
budget
documents
for
next
year.
So.
F
Would
they
just
kind
of
you
know
I'm,
just
assuming
that
they
would?
You
know
each
of
them
stand
alone
like
their
own
business
and
then
they
would
all
come
under.
Like
a
you
know,
corporate
umbrella
for
the
for
the
library,
so
it
would
be
actually
look
be
able
to
see
how
those
something
similar
that
just
simplifying
it.
In
my
mind,.
E
A
Any
other
questions
all
right.
All
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you
and
we're
really
excited
about
the
project,
so
keep
us
posted
as
it
moves
forward
all
right.
The
final
under
item
under
new
business
is
concession
about
rules
and
procedures
for
the
Board
of
County
Commissioners.
So
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
I
sent
an
email
around
to
the
board,
asking
some
questions
about
our
processes
and
suggested
consideration
of
a
couple
of
possible
changes
to
the
way
that
we
handled
the
public
input.
A
Part
of
the
meetings
and
I
think
there's
a
basically
kind
of
boils
down
to
sort
of
two
questions.
We've
got
our
existing
public
procedures
document
on
the
agenda,
but
the
two
basic
questions
are
wind.
During
the
meeting.
We're
gonna
take
public
comment,
the
beginning
or
the
end,
and
also
whether
we're
going
to
take
public
comment
on
all
the
motions
throughout
the
meeting,
which
is
which
is
actually
not
our
current
policy,
but
it
has
been
our
practice.
A
So
I
think
those
are
the
two
fundamental
questions
before
the
board,
and
so
we
talked
about
this
at
our
pre
meeting
two
weeks
ago
and
so
we're
back
having
another
fall
of
discussion
about
of
this
evening.
So
I
guess
you
know,
I
would
just
I
guess
that
we,
just
as
I
did
in
the
email
I
first
sent
out
to
the
board.
I
would
just
reiterate
that,
from
my
perspective
and
again,
we've
done
these
things
different
ways:
we've
done
them
at
the
beginning.
We've
done
it
at
the
end.
A
We've
done
in
different
ways
different
times
and
I.
Think
there's
I
think
there's
pros
and
cons
to
it
to
where,
where
you
want
to
do
it,
if
you
do
it
at
the
beginning,
folks,
you
want
to
come
in
and
talk
to
the
board.
They
get
a
chance
to
do
that
right
away.
They
don't
some.
Sometimes
our
meetings
go
very
long,
and
so
people
don't
know
how
long
they're
gonna
be
they
oftentimes
are
here
for
a
really
long
time
to
have
their
chance
to
talk
to
us
for
three
minutes,
but
in
other
cases.
A
A
But
one
thing
that
I
did
that
I
guess
kind
of
persuaded
me
to
kind
of
think
about
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
is
that
we
do
adopt
our
consent
agenda
at
the
beginning
near
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
and
we
have
not
had
the
practice
of
taking
public
comment
before
that.
So
I
do
feel
like
people
should
have
a
chance
to
comment
on
any
items
that
are
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
They
are
usually
very
you
know,
issues
that
are
not
controversial
in
nature,
if
they're
on
the
consent
agenda,
but
just
because
we
might
think
they're
there,
you
know
consensus,
you
know.
In
some
cases,
people
have
real
interest
in
those
items,
so
I
do
think
there
should
be
a
chance
for
folks
to
to
comment
on
that
and
moving
it
to
the
beginning
would
address
that
issue,
so
you
know
so
for
myself.
A
I
think
moving
it
to
the
beginning
is
would
be
a
positive
step
and
I
also
believe
that
you
know
if
we
give
public
comment
at
the
beginning
of
every
meeting,
and
we
also
take
additional
public
comment
on
any
public
hearings
that
the
Commission
holds.
So
any
rezoning
is
anything
that
requires
a
public
hearing
would
also
get
as
additional
public
comment.
You
know
that
provides
a
meaningful
opportunity
for
the
public
to
talk
to
us
at
every
single
meeting
I.
A
O
I'm
doing
that
in
a
way
that's
actually
accessible
and
then
on
the
other
side.
Thinking
about
the
flow
of
the
meetings
for
everyone
involved,
members
of
the
community
staff,
certainly
so
I
support
well
I
support,
moving
public
comment
to
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
largely
because
I
think
it
increases
access
to
for
folks
to
be
able
to
participate
in
person
to
know
public
comment
will
begin
almost
immediately
after
5:00
p.m.
and
you'll
get
three
comments
to
address
our
three
minutes
for
just
any
item
on
the
agenda.
O
When
we
move
the
public
comment
to
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
started
taking
this
other
approach,
I
think
to
a
person
when
I
get
questions
about
public
comment,
people
are
trying
to
figure
out
what
time
to
arrive
and
then
plan
their
evenings
based
on
their
work
schedules.
There
are
childcare,
needs
needing
to
eat,
etc,
to
sort
of
time
it
so
they
can
participate
and
I.
Just
like
the
idea
of
a
consistent,
open,
fairly
accessible
process
now
5:00
p.m.
O
F
A
J
G
G
E
F
E
C
F
Could
I
just
finish
up?
Please
forget
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
the
statute
is
clear
that
it
that
you,
you
know
after
a
general
election.
You
do
that,
but
that
collection
of
ice
chair
is
his
annual,
because
the
way
this
read
you
know
it's
every
other
year
or
after
the
general
election.
So
yes.
J
F
Rules
that
were
showing
as
changes
under
Section
four
I,
he
says
the
Chairman
or
any
three
members
of
the
board
may
add
an
item
to
the
agenda.
We
had
made
a
decision
previously
that
that
it
required
you
know
three
members,
but
that
the
the
Chairman
was
not
put
in
the
position.
Nor
could
add
something
to
the
agenda
by
them
by
themselves.
County
Manager
could
do
it,
but
that
was
a
change
that
was
made
a
year
or
two.
O
A
F
So
we
just
want
to
make
you
know,
make
that
make
that
change,
because
you
know
before
not
we'll
get
into
again.
I
would
not
want
to
be.
You
know,
put
in
the
position
to
be
you
know,
phone
call
run
off
the
hook.
Expecting
me
to
put
something
on
the
agenda.
You
know
it
needs
to
be
a
collaborative
which
is
what
we
changed.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
correct,
okay
and
so
in
the
new
version.
That
is
this.
A
M
D
D
That's
that's
the
problem
that
I
have
it's.
What
we're
discussing
now
me
and
shouldn't
be
discussed.
You
should
have
been
put
off
till
the
seventeenth
and
this
would
have
been
on
it,
but
you
don't
put
placeholders
then
do
to
go
behind
it
and
put
what
you
want
to
put
now.
Wednesday
is
the
deadline.
This
come
on
Friday
evening.
I've
talked
to
her
about
it
and.
A
Well,
a
couple
of
things:
I
think
your
concern
is
very
legitimate
in
the
county
manager.
Would
back
me
up
that
when
I
learned
that
the
information
would
I'll
be
prepared
for
when
it
went
out
on
Wednesday
that
your
concern
was
the
first
concern
I
raised
as
well,
so
I
I
think
we
might
you
know
in
it,
and
you
know
I
think
our
staff
worked
very
hard
to
get
the
materials
that
we
need
for
our
agenda
on
the
website
in
time.
A
You
know
for
when
it
goes
live
there
are
occasions
when
you
know
some
things
come
up
between
when
the
agenda
is
published
and
when
things
are
voted
on
that
need
to
be
added
to
the
agenda,
they
just
simply
weren't
ready.
If
we
want
to
as
a
board,
you
know
we
can
adopt
an
actual
policy
around
that.
You
know
the
thing
that
I
suggested
to
Averell
was
that
I
mean
we
could
just
say
hey
if
it's.
A
If
there's,
if
there's
any
additional
information
that
needs
to
go
on
the
agenda,
we're
not
going
to
consider
it
has
to
go
to
the
next
meeting.
We
want
to
adopt
that
position.
We
could
do
that
I
think
from
time
to
time
it
will
mean
that
there
will
be
items
that
we
probably
want
to
conduct
business
on
that
might
get
delayed.
But
if
we
want
to
take
that
position,
we
could
we
could
do
that.
A
Let
me
finish
and
you'll
get
a
chance
to
talk
to
you
about
that,
so
that
so
that
you
know
the
concern,
isn't
that
when
the
agenda
goes
live
on
Wednesday
or
Thursday,
people
check
out
the
agenda
review.
It
think
that
they
know
everything
that's
going
on,
but
then
other
information
gets
added
later.
So
that
would
be
a
way
to
make
sure
folks
are
aware.
There's
something
else
out
there
take
a
look
at
it:
I'm
open
to
different
ideas
on
I'm
the
best
place
to
land.
A
D
Speaking
of
County
Commissioners
I,
don't
remember
that
because
I've
been
around
since
2000
I
couldn't
remember
a
couple
of
times,
but
the
fact
is
for
four
years,
I
stood
at
a
podium
and
I
got
eight
people
to
come
so
that
I
could
talk
for
10
minutes.
It
was
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
I
had
no
problem
with
that.
The
people
who
came
with
me
had
no
problem
with
that
and
I
don't
see
what
we're
doing
here,
we're
playing
a
political
game
and
I.
D
Don't
you
know,
you
know
cause
Don's
here
and
Jerry's
here:
I,
don't
see
anybody
out
there
unless
somebody
wants
money
and
they'll
come
see,
it
plain
simple
and
we're
running
people
off.
But
what
we're
doing
all
we
have
an
audience
right
now
is
basically
a
couple
people,
a
couple
of
news,
people
and
rest
of
her
staff.
D
If
you
take
the
staff
out,
this
brings
empty,
we
turned
into
offices.
It
was
better
when
it
was
down
at
planning
department,
but
I
spoke
it
to
city
quite
a
few
times
at
their
podium.
Brandi
knows
it
and
I
can
tell
you
a
whole
lot
of
things
that
happen
there,
but
I'm
not
going
to
deny.
But
the
main
thing
is:
when
you
have
a
rule,
we
hadn't
changed
it.
Yet
this
is
still
a
rule
that
you
can't
add
anything
after
noon
on
Wednesday,
and
this
was
added
Friday
evening.
D
The
public
looks
at
the
agenda
on
Wednesday
because
that's
what
they
understand-
maybe
Thursday,
but
here
here
it
comes
out
Friday
and
what
happens
I
finally
got
a
call.
I
figured
a
win,
but
I
did
what
is
going
on
here.
Kane
answer
it,
but
all
I
know
was
what
we're
doing
is
against
what
we've
been
doing
at
this
County
I.
Don't
want
to
change
all
the
rules
at
this
County
I've
seven
years.
If
I
had
something
to
add
to
the
agenda,
I
made
sure
everything
was
there
before
I
did
it.
A
A
This
is
the
reason
wasn't
ready
to
go
then
so
I
do
not
believe
that
we
do
have
a
actual
formal
policy
saying
that
if
information
or
doing
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
do
we
have
a
policy
that
says
that
things
have
not
been
on
the
published
agenda
by
Wednesday
that
additional
information
cannot
be
added
to
the
agenda.
Is
there
actual
policy
on
that?
I
mean
I,
think
we're
all
in
agreement.
We
want.
A
F
We
did
not
cover
this
in
a
pre
meeting
and
get
seven
people
to
agree
to
it.
So
I
believe
that,
based
on
whether
it's,
whether
it's
written
or
you,
can
pull
it
up
in
the
next
five
minutes
or
not
it's
a
way.
We've
conducted
business
in
the
six
or
seven
years
that
I've
been
here
I.
Think
of
it
in
the
in
the
interest
of
the
public
and
the
interest
of
the
you
know
the
you
know
the
credibility
of
the
board
that
we
I
mean.
F
A
So
I'll
make
a
suggestion:
I
mean
we'd,
actually
don't
have
a
policy
on
this
three
commissioners
did
ask
to
put
this
on
the
agenda,
so
it
is,
it's
legitimately
on
the
agenda.
I
would
make
argument
that
we've
wanted
a
vote
on
this.
We
could
but
I
I,
think
public
comments
really
important.
I
think
the
way
we
run
the
meetings
is
a
very
important
and
we
may
not
all
land
in
the
same
place
in
this
issue.
A
I
get
us
since
we
probably
will
not,
but
here's
my
suggestion,
I
think
we
should
we
had
a
brief
conversation
about
this
at
the
pre
meeting.
I
think
we
should
talk
about
this.
A
little
bit
more
this
evening,
get
a
sense
of
where
the
board
might
be
on
this.
But
let's
not
take
a
vote
on
this
this
evening.
I
don't
want
I,
don't
want
anyone
to
feel
like
this
is
sprung
on
anyone
right,
there's
we
can
all
have
we
can.
A
F
A
B
I
was
one
wanted
to
keep
it
at
the
start
of
the
meeting,
but
after
we
moved
it
to
the
end
I'm
for
leaving
it
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
because
I
feel
like
anything
worthwhile
for
someone
to
come
in
here
that
they
can
wait
till
the
end,
but
also
it's
kind
of
educational
for
them
to
kind
of
see
what
what
we
do
and
how
we
disagree
to
agree
on
a
lot
of
things.
So
team
is
keeping
it
at
the
end.
B
The
time
you
know
I've
been
here
three
years
now
and
several
have
you
always
been
here
longer
than
that
whenever
we
come
in,
we
change
from
4:30
to
5:00
to
generate
more
people
in
here
it
has
not
worked.
We
move
public
comment
from
the
begin
to
the
end.
It
has
not
worked,
so
it's
like
people
that
are
interested
or
here,
people
that
are
not
interested
in
our
government
or
doing
something
else
so
and
as
far
as
voting
on
all
on
the
consent
agenda,
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
B
F
We
could
do
we
could
do
that
very
simple
we
could
allow.
We
could
allow
someone
to.
We
could
allow
public
comment
on
the
consent
agenda
up
front
instead.
Leave
public
comment
at
the
end
and
that
way
because
of
the
concern
I
had
when
you
brought
it
up.
The
concern
I
had
when
I
honestly
didn't
have
strong
feelings,
one
way
or
the
other,
but
the
car
as
the
beginning
of
the
end.
I
just
didn't
like
I,
just
didn't
like
the
change
or
changing
it,
but
the
consent
agenda
having
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
consent
agenda.
H
D
F
Numbers
Commissioner
fryer
it
he
he
is,
he
is
correct
what
it?
What
happened?
Not
not
all
the
time,
because
none
of
this
happens
all
the
time
I
mean
you
know,
we
don't
I
mean
you
know
we're
we're
just
giving
they're
our
best.
A
very
rare
collection,
what's
happened
in
the
past,
and
so
what
would
happen
in
some
cases
is,
you
would
have
you
know,
staff
here
and
then
you'd
have
people
come
in
and
they'd
make
comments
directed
staff
and
they
leave
and
the
staffs
here
all
all.
Even
so
he
had
some.
F
A
K
G
O
O
Discussion
not
dissimilar
from
this
one
and
the
mood
of
the
board.
The
strong
majority
move
of
the
board
was
to
move
it
to
help
with
the
flow
of
the
meetings,
particularly
regarding
respecting
the
time
of
guests
were
part
of
presentations,
and
there
were
some
occasions
when
a
lot
of
folks
were
commenting
and
in
the
meetings
were.
Public
comment
was
taking.
C
O
B
I,
remember
also
I
was
listening,
then,
as
we
backed
it
up,
because
we
had
complaints,
people
could
not
get
here
at
5:00
5:15,
they
didn't
change
and
it
did
not
change.
That
is
exactly
why
we
change,
because
he
says
before
we
honored
what
free
transportation
bus
parking.
We
tried
everything
to
get
people
in
here
and
it's
not
working
and
unless
someone
lobbies
to
be
bring
a
big
group
in
here
which
we've
had
to
help
signs
up
and
we've
had
several
times
to
quiet
them
down.
Besides
that,
we've
never
had
well.
F
O
Matter
to
them
is
a
great
thing,
so
I
think
I
will
continue
to
plant
my
flag
on
the
side
of
trying
to
find
the
time.
That's
the
most
accessible
to
the
most
amount
of
people.
I
will
say
just
if
it
is
this
the
point
at
which,
if
it
is
going
to
be
on
our
next
agenda
item,
is
this
the
point
at
which
we
would
kind
of
propose
specific
revisions
to
the
language,
because,
if
we're
gonna
I
think.
A
Think
I
think
if
we're
gonna
take
this
up
at
the
next
meeting,
we
don't
need
to
do
all
the
word
smithing
in
this
meeting.
I
think
we
kind
of
get
a
sense
or
maybe
the
direction
and
I'm
trying
to
kind
of
listen
to
where
folks
are
at
and
so
I
think
I
think
we
can
just
kind
of
keep
it
more
high-level
in
this
meeting
and
try
to
take
what
we
learned
tonight
and
craft
some
language.
A
M
First
of
all,
Commissioner
fryer.
Let
me
give
you
a
history
lesson
here.
First
time
I
came
before
the
Commission
was
in
the
mid
70s
and
it
wasn't
asked
for
money
either
and
I've
been
over
the
years
several
times.
You
know,
I,
think
you
know
I've
been
as
well
as
city
council,
brownie,
oh
well,
no
I
was
just
telling
you
know
me,
I'm
gonna
tell
you
what
I
think
one
thing
I
do
believe
in
transparency.
M
I
mean
this
is
the
key
here
and
I
think
this
is
what
we're
talking
about,
even
when
we
post
things
but
look
into
less
than
three
years.
I've
seen
us
go
both
ways
at
the
end
and
at
the
beginning,
when
we
came
in
I
remember
we
were
at
the
beginning
and
I
voted
to
move
it
to
the
end.
So
more
would
come
in
and
I
know,
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
feedback
from
people
who
wanted
to
stay
at
the
end.
M
M
Folks
I
talked
a
lot
of
people
who
are
watching
us
out
there
on
television
I
think
we
have
a
lot
to
do
that,
but
you
know
right
now:
I'm
still
leaning,
I
haven't
heard
enough
at
this
point
to
cam
me
against.
You
know
to
move
it
to
to
the
end.
You
know,
let's
try
the
beginning,
maybe
we'll
get
more
input.
I'll.
F
Just
remember
that
anything
we're
voting
on.
We
got
to
take
public
comment
so
prior
to
a
decision
except
for
the
consent
agenda,
which
was
my
point.
You
know
if
you,
if
you
figure
out
some
way
to
vote
on
the
consent
agenda
and
leave
it
the
way
it
is.
You
know
we
have
to
vote
anything
we're
going
to
make
a
decision
on.
We
have
to
take
public
on.
A
Other
things
that
there's
not
a
public
hearing
on-
let's
say
we
do
it
at
the
beginning.
You
know
that
would
be
your
chance
to
talk
talk
to
us
about
anything,
that's
on
the
Commission
agenda.
But
if
that
said,
we
take
five,
you
know
motions
on
five
different
issues
throughout
the
meeting.
You
know
you
don't
comment
five
different
times.
No.
A
F
A
A
So
any
other,
it
said
this
is
good
discussion
as
I
thought,
there's
a
diversity
of
views
and
there
are
pros
and
cons
this
so
I
I,
it's
legit
any
other
comments
before
we
move
on
to
this.
We're
not
taking
anyone
in
this.
The
next
thing,
the
very
next
thing
we're
gonna
do
is
we're
gonna,
take
public
comment
and
you
can
talk
about
this
or
you
can
talk.
A
B
A
F
M
F
P
B
P
K
A
Opposed
all
right,
all
right
now
we
come
to
public
comment.
The
time
limit
for
individual
public
comment
to
the
board
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires,
you
can
leave
any
questions
with
your
name
address
and
phone
number
with
the
county
manager
board.
Members
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
matters
public
comment.
This
is
the
public's
chance
to
speak
to
the
board.
A
The
board
reserves
the
right
to
denied
public
address
on
subjects
that
we've
previously
taken
public
comment
on
earlier
in
the
meeting
and
you'll
see
a
red
light
come
on
when
your
time
is
up
and
when
your
time
is
up.
Please
conclude
your
speaking
at
that
time.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
treat
everyone
fair
and
give
everyone
the
same
out
of
time
all
right.
Mr.
eel.
N
I
think
you
all
need
to
think
about
what
happened
tonight,
because
you
all
just
proved
the
point
that
you
need
to
take
public
comment
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
because
all
this
discussion
went
on
tonight
and
had
you
taken
public
comment
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
I
would
have
never
heard
this
discussion
and
would
not
have
been
able
to
do
what
I'm
fixing
to
do
right
now,
first
and
foremost,
gentlemen
I
suggest
you
look
at
3d.
N
That
is
the
second
page
of
what
was
handed
out
and
it
says
prior
to
the
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
The
Chairman
will
ask
if
any
member
of
the
public
has
questions
regarding
items
on
the
consent
agenda
and
brandy
you've
been
doing
that.
However,
items
can
only
be
moved
from
the
consent
agenda
at
the
request
of
at
least
two
commissioners.
It's
in
your
current
rules
and
regulations
and
you
mark
through
it.
N
People
have
an
opportunity
to
speak.
Somebody
needs
to
read
the
rules.
Then
you
need
to
go
to
13
a
2
and
13.
A
2
is
amazing
because
I'll
be
looking
for
it
and
find
it
here
in
a
minute.
After
a
budget,
ordinance
has
been
adopted,
I'll
request
for
new
or
additional
funding
or
amendments
of
the
previous
budget
ordinance
must
be
submitted
to
and
shall
be
reviewed
by
the
county
manager
and
acted
upon
at
the
discretion
of
the
county
manager.
N
Any
requests
for
funds
must
come
to
the
board,
so
you
can
use
the
consent
agenda
and
shuffle
money
from
one
line
to
the
other
and
never
bring
it
before
the
board.
Folks,
as
long
as
you
don't
put
more
money
in
the
budget
and
then
public
hearings
when
the
allotted
time
is
up,
what
is
the
allotted
time?
That's
marked
out
over
there.
It
says
you
know
prior
to
the
individual
asking
if
he
has
any
other
questions
on
your
public
hearings.
What
is
the
allotted
time?
I
told
mr.
weinsider,
you
need
them.
N
Can
this
thing
and
you
don't
need
to
bring
it
back
next
week.
You
need
to
read
each
line
specifically
because
words
are
important
and
see
that
if
each
word
is
in
here
does
what
it
says
it's
going
to
do,
because
I
can't
see
you
set
up
there
and
tell
me
you
won't
public
input
on
your
actions
when
you
don't
even
put
on
the
agenda
what
your
actions
are
and
yes
you're
right.
N
N
Please
get
it
together,
because
the
public
out
there
seeing
you
sent
here
tonight-
and
you
just
proved
every
one
of
your
prejudice-
proof
why
you
need
to
take
the
public
come
here
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
I,
don't
care
what
you
want
to
hear
me
or
not
brownie,
but
Jerry
and
I
represent
the
entire
citizens
of
Buncombe
County.
As
long
as
we're
here,
great
alright,.
K
G
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members,
board
yeah
I,
think
y'all
to
have
pre
meetings.
I
think
y'all
have
big
uns
and
then,
when
you
get
up
here
and
do
your
business,
then
we've
got
time
to
speak
in
public
and
talk
about
the
voted
pieces
on
the
agenda.
I've
been
here
longer
than
anybody
sitting
up
there
I
don't
care
how
old,
y'all
and
I've
been
here
and
watched,
his
crap,
the
whole
32
years
or
better
consistently
and
I've
got
it
on
video
to
prove
it.
G
G
When
all
is
said
and
done,
they're
more
sad
and
they
are
done.
That's
the
bottom
line!
You
talk
too
much
run
your
mouth
too
much.
You
only
give
us
three
minutes,
and
you
said
if
our
four
hours
and
you
don't
say
anything
any
better
than
we
do
more
things,
change
more
things
stays
the
same.
This
crap
has
went
on
for
the
years
I've
been
here
in
politics,
all
the
way
to
Washington
same
old
thing,
get
down
to
real
stuff.
G
G
Let
me
tell
you
I,
Got
News,
for
you
under
nothing.
If
you
don't
let
us
speak,
we
need
to
listen
to
the
agenda
item,
but
we
need
to
hear
the
vote
or
not.
I
mean
the
can
discussion.
We
already
hear
that
discussion
before
we're
up
having
an
opportunity
to
speak,
because
we
don't
know.
What's
on
your
mind,
you
know
what's
on
ours,
but
we
don't
know.
What's
on
yours,
we
don't
know
how
you've
made
decisions
back
in
the
backroom.
Don't
tell
me
it
don't
happen
it
does.
It
was
caught
with
them
onto
doing
it.
G
Q
Thank
You,
commissioner,
something
we'll
have
to
read
through
this
to
get
through
it.
In
three
minutes.
My
name
is
Gary
Roberts
I
have
a
farm
in
Alexandra,
70,
acre
farm
that
joins
the
back:
welcome
County
landfill
I'm,
also
a
retired
county
employee
and
also
serve
on
your
farmland
preservation
board.
Q
The
landfill
was
cited
in
1995
or
96
for
the
first
20
years.
It
was
a
great
neighbor
and
I'm,
not
ashamed
to
say
it
was
a
great
neighbor,
the
community
loved
it
everybody.
The
community
got
along
with
the
landfill
and
everything
was
good,
but
something
changed.
In
the
last
two
years
we
started
getting
smells
from
the
landfill
problem
that
winds
out
of
the
West
carried
the
smells
east
right,
the
end
of
my
property.
Q
When
we
this
first
started,
I
contacted
the
Department
of
Environmental,
Natural
Resources
and
the
state
agency
that
controls
and
monitors
landfills.
They
said
they
would
take
care
of
it
and
they
did
for
several
months,
but
then
it
started
again.
I
talked
with
the
landfill
manager.
Little
was
done,
then
I
called
your
interim
county
manager,
and
he
said
he
would
have
someone
call
me
and
someone
from
the
solid
waste
department
did
call
me,
and
he
said
he
was
short
of
help,
but
would
try
to
work
on
it.
Q
Q
If
you
go
to
the
landfill
any
morning
around
8
o'clock
and
be
the
first
one
in
the
landfill
and
take
your
trash
up
at
the
top,
it's
not
completely
covered
the
spray
that
they
put
on
the
ground
will
grace
the
ground
spray
that
they
put
on
it.
It
holds
all
the
papers
in
place
but
and
keep
the
odor
from
coming
to
listen.
It's
covered
with
dirt.
Q
My
neighbor
to
the
north
of
me
has
lung
problems.
My
neighbor
to
the
left
of
me
has
no
problems.
I'm,
not
saying
that.
There's
a
coincidence,
I'm
not
saying
that
the
landfill
has
anything
to
do
with
it.
I've
been
in
a
lot
of
stuff.
All
my
life
and
and
I
can't
say
that
the
landfill
is
the
problem,
but
I
just.
A
A
September
17th
at
8:30
a.m.
the
Buncombe
County
Commission
will
be
holding
a
strategic
planning
workshop,
a
workshop
which
will
include
our
department,
heads
and
the
members
of
the
Commission
so
be
held
at
First
Baptist
Church,
5,
Oak,
Street
3rd
4th
floor
dining
room
in
downtown
Asheville
that
evening,
at
7:00,
on
September
17th
at
5
p.m.
will
be
the
commissioners
next
regular
meeting
here
at
200,
College
Street
room
3
to
6
mister,
miss
Hockaday.
You
talked
to
us
about
the
closed
session
items.
Yes,.
K
We
need
a
motion
pursuant
to
NCGS
143
318
point
11
a3
to
consult
with
an
attorney
employed
or
retained
by
the
public
body
in
order
to
preserve
the
attorney-client
privilege
between
the
attorney
and
the
public
body
which
privileges
hereby
acknowledged.
This
is
not
to
discuss
a
specific
case
cited,
but
just
to
preserve
the
privilege
and
then
an
additional
closed
session
motion
under
143
318
point
11a
for
to
discuss
matters
relating
to
the
location
or
expansion
of
industries
or
other
businesses
in
the
area
served
by
the
public
body.
Thank.