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From YouTube: Commissioner's Meeting - 3/05/2013
Description
Regular meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners held on Tuesday, March 5, 2013. Agenda topics included:
County Manager's Report
Asheville City Schools Capital Projects Report
New Business
Energy Update
Energy Use & Carbon Emissions Report
Solid Waste/Recycling Report
Board Appointments
Next meeting will be held Tuesday, March 19, 2013.
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Give
us
humility
and
humbleness
in
working
as
commissioners
and
thank
you
for
all
the
goodness
joy
and
opportunity
that
each
one
of
us
possess
amen
in
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board.
It's
the
duty
of
every
commissioner
to
avoid
both
conflicts
of
interest
and
appearances
of
conflict
does
any
board
member
know
of
any
known
or
potential
appearance
of
conflict
with
any
matter
coming
before
us
today.
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But
in
in
the
haste
of
that
right
now
we
have
an
opening
which
is
mandy
stone,
but
I'm
asking
for
miss
stone
to
step
back
in
until
this
board
can
make
a
decision
who
that
we
would
like
to
replace
or
when
she
decides
to
come
off
or
we'll
find
somebody,
but
I'd
like
for
mandy
stones
to
to
stay
there
until
this
board
can
get
back
together
or
we
figure
out
what's
going
on
with
madison
county.
So
that's
that's.
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Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
fryer
for
the
board,
just
so
everybody
understands,
I
mean
when
a
person
voluntarily
resigns
from
any
board
that
person
would
generally
be
considered
to
continue
to
continue
to
serve
on
that
board
until
replacement
is
found,
certified
and
sworn
in.
So
at
this
point,
ms
stone
is
still
on
the
ap
tech
board.
Okay,.
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Thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Next
we're
going
to
have
public
comment.
The
time
limit
for
any
comment
to
our
commission
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires,
you
may
leave
any
questions
along
with
your
name,
address
phone
number
and
email
with
the
county
manager
board.
Members
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
matters
during
public
comment.
This
is
our
chance
to
hear
from
you.
Comments
should
be
limited
to
subjects
that
are
within
the
jurisdiction
of
this
commission
or
pertain
to
matters
upon
which
we
may
act
any
individual.
Speaking
during
public
comment
shall
address
the
entire
board.
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Any
polling
or
voting
by
or
at
request
to
vote
by
board
members
is
inappropriate.
Persons
addressing
the
commission
are
expected
to
observe
the
decorum
of
the
chamber
and
to
be
respectful
of
everyone
in
the
room.
Any
person
who
willfully
interrupts
disturbs
or
disrupts
the
session
will
be
asked
to
leave
the
meeting,
and
the
commission
deserves
the
right
to
deny
public
address
on
any
subject
previously
presented
to
the
commission.
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We
have
during
pre-meeting
elected
to
take
public
comment
after
the
presentation
by
the
asheville
city
school
board,
and
we
would
ask
get
any
comments
about
the
asheville
middle
school
or
isaac
dixon
or
anything
concerning
the
asheville
city
schools
be
made
at
that
point,
so
we
won't
so
we
can
have
it
after.
We
all
hear
the
presentation
have
more
information
about
what's
going
on
so
with
that
I'll
ask
if
anybody
has
public
comment
tonight
on
any
other
subject.
Yes,
sir
mr
yelton,
in
the
back
and
anybody
else
wish
to
comment
as
he's
coming
up.
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It's
my
understanding
that
I
can
address
the
schools
now
if
I
would
choose
to
too
based
on
what
you
said
at
the
pre-meeting.
So
that's
what
I'm
going
to
do
looks
like
somebody
needs
to
get
out
of
here,
because,
anytime,
you
see
a
crowd
like
this.
You
know
something's
coming,
you
know,
they're
lining
up
at
the
trough,
looking
for
money
and
that's
exactly
what's
fixing
to
happen,
and
I've
made
a
few
calls
and
information.
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I
think
you
need
to
consider
that
I'm
not
against
building
I'm
not
against
education,
but
when
the
city
has
had
that
excess
tax
all
these
years
in
their
fair
share
of
that
money,
most
people
don't
realize
in
this
county
and
a
lot
of
people
have
been
involved
in
politics.
All
their
life
do
not
realize
that
when
the
city
extends
its
boundaries,
the
school
does
not
go
out
with
it.
The
school
is
a
separate
entity
and
the
county
is
operating.
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You
need
to
take
a
look
at
it,
the
point
being
that
at
the
last
meeting
mr
chair,
you
offered
up
a
petition
from
someone
and
it
had
400
signatures
regarding
safe
schools
and
sros
and
either
allow
that
for
everyone
and
not
be
here
or
if
the
person
speaking
on
the
agenda,
items
or
public
comment,
they
ought
to
be
here
the
other
thing
about
the
petition
on
the
safe
school
or
sros
in
that
petition.
If
you
look
at
it,
it's
an
online
petition
and
it
represented
15
or
20
different
states.
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I
have
sent
you
in
some
information,
as
well
as
all
the
superintendents
across
the
state
of
north
carolina.
They
all
got
the
same
thing
and
it's
very
in-depth.
It's
very
legal
and
I'm
not
an
attorney,
and
I
don't
want
to
be
one,
but
I
would
like
for
you
to
consider
these
statements
regarding
sros
or
spos.
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F
We
need
to
look
at
that,
but
on
the
other
side
of
this
we
need
to
look
at
what
is
presenting
itself
with
police
being
in
the
school
or
sros
being
in
the
school,
because
I
think
that
there's
some
issues
related
to
the
legal
things
that
I've
given
you
to
look
at
and
later
we'll
bring
back
a
little
more
specifics.
But
I
wanted
to
get
this
out
to
make
sure
you
got
the
same
information.
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If
not,
let
me
recognize
dr
wanda
green
to
start
the
discussion.
I'd
also
like
to
recognize
gene
bell,
chairman
of
the
city
school
board.
We
have
al
whiteside
board
member
here
we
have
former
board
member
john
legend
here:
superintendent,
alan
johnson
isaac,
dixon
principal
brad,
johnson
and
asheville
middle
school
principal
cynthia
sellinger.
Thank
you
all
for
attending
and
giving
us
information.
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Mr
chairman
and
commissioners,
this
is
a
new
experience.
It's
the
first
time
I've
stood
here
on
march,
the
20th
of
2012.
The
board
of
commissioners
approved
two
things:
a
reimbursement
resolution
and
approved
us
applying
to
the
state
to
get
two
million
dollars
of
city
school
money
to
start
a
study
in
city
schools
on
what
we
need
to
be
doing
with
isaac,
dixon
elementary
and
asheville
middle
school.
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They
were
to
develop
a
plan
and
come
back
to
you
and
give
you
a
report
on
what
needs
to
be
done,
and
that
included
the
ability
to
hire
an
architect
and
do
some
planning.
So
tonight
they
are
back
to
report
their
findings.
I
also
want
to
point
out
to
you
and
reemphasize
a
couple
of
things
that
the
chairman
said.
This
is
not
an
item
that
you
can
vote
on
tonight.
It's
under
county
manager's
report.
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So
it's
not
something
you
can
vote
on
tonight
and
we're
just
trying
to
bring
you
back
as
much
information
you
can
not
just
with
this
report,
but
with
several
others,
so
you'll
be
prepared
in
may
and
june
to
make
some
decisions.
I
mean
we
heard
from
non-profits
the
other
night,
so
there's
a
lot
of
ask
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
get
all
those
together.
So
you
can
take
a
look
in
may
and
june,
but
they
are
back
tonight
and
have,
I
think,
a
pretty
comprehensive
report
for
us.
So
I'd
recognize
chairman
jean
bell.
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It
chairman
county
commissioners.
My
purpose
is
just
to
introduce
the
intent
for
this
evening
and
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
ashford
city
school
systems
and
where
we
are
today
and
where
we
like
to
be.
We
also
want
to
thank
the
county
manager,
wanda,
green
and
her
staff
for
working
with
us.
This
is
a
very,
very
tedious
process.
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You,
mr
chairman,
county
commissioners,
is
always
a
pleasure
to
come
before
you
to
talk
about
my
favorite
topic:
that's
asheville
city
schools.
So
again,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
come
and
also
want
to
thank
wanda
green
for
her
steadfast
support.
It's
always
good
to
come
and
visit
with
her
last
week
about
an
update
on
where
we
are,
but
we
have
a
powerpoint
presentation
we're
going
to
go
through.
We
have
several
presenters
so
we're
going
to
try
to
keep
this
upbeat
to
honor
your
time
and
try
to
make
it
informative
for
you.
I
So
we
would
ask
perhaps
if
we
could
go
through
it
and
then
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
at
the
end,
so
to
make
sure
that
we
are
certainly
staying
within
our
time
limits,
but
basically
these
schools
that
we
are
going
to
share
with
you
tonight.
We
know
we're
designing
for
the
next
50
to
60
years.
So
that's
what
we
have
in
mind
to
address
the
needs
of
our
children
for
the
next
50
to
60
years.
These
schools
are
going
to
be
conducive
conducive
to
supervision
and
to
improve
student
achievement.
I
That's
what
we
want
to
design
also
connected
these
schools
connected
to
21st
century
technology
and
expectations,
we're
preparing
children
for
their
future,
not
ours,
and
it's
going
to
look
very
different
than
ours
has
been,
but
also
community
friendly.
We
want
these
schools
to
be
a
warm
inviting
place
that
our
students
want
to
go
a
safe
place
that
fosters
learning,
and
certainly
we
want
it
to
be
contemporary.
We
want
it
to
be
improved
learning
and
that
we're
daylighting,
which
we
know
is
a
research-based
initiative.
Daylighting
improves
student
achievement.
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Good
afternoon,
chairman
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
brad
johnson,
I'm
the
principal
at
isaac
dixon,
and
hopefully
you
noticed
from
the
video.
There
are
a
number
of
opportunities
for
students
to
be
engaged
in
their
learning
at
the
new
school
site.
All
students
benefit
from
experiences
connected
to
their
learning.
However,
students
in
poverty
are
especially
in
need
of
these
experiences
to
reinforce
learning
opportunities.
K
The
new
site
provides
with
outdoor
classrooms
for
all
students,
in
conjunction
with
service
learning,
field
trips
and
working
with
within
the
proposed
garden
spaces
provide
those
concrete
learning
experiences
without
those
connections,
learning
can
be
too
abstract
connection
is
lost
and
students
are
left
behind
with
the
new
building.
Students
can
take
their
learning
outside
the
four
walls
of
a
classroom
without
having
to
leave
the
school
property
and
have
their
new
learning
resonate
within
them.
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M
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
I'm
cynthia
sellinger,
the
principal
of
asheville
middle
school
asheville
middle
school,
affects
every
student
in
asheville
city
schools.
Every
student,
every
elementary
child
comes
to
asheville
middle
school.
The
new
asheville
middle
school
has
been
designed
to
enhance,
learning
and
increase
achievement
to
ready
our
students
for
21st
century
work
and
learning
environments.
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Isaac
dixon,
as
you
see
on
the
screen,
was
one
of
the
original
board
members
of
asheville
city
schools.
He
was
one
of
the
ones
who
helped
construct
the
school
system
that
we
have
today
over
125
years
ago
in
1887,
and
he
was
an
african-american
along
those
lines.
Both
schools
that
we're
planning
to
replace
were
originally
african-american
schools,
but
today,
they're
still
in
operation
and
we're
still
using
them.
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N
N
But
all
I
would
say,
as
I
sit
down,
is
this:
a
lot
has
been
said
about
the
schools
where
we
need
them
or
not,
but
one
thing's
for
sure.
If
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
one
of
the
top
rate
school
systems
in
the
state,
we've
got
to
continue
that
with
our
facilities.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
whiteside.
K
K
As
such,
the
building
was
constructed
with
bigger
bodies
and
teenager
size
in
mind.
The
cabinetry,
the
bathrooms,
the
hallways,
were
not
meant
for
five-year-old
bodies
in
particular
the
hallways
are.
If
anyone
has
been
to
the
school,
the
hallways
are
particularly
long
and
it
can
take
up
to
10
minutes
for
our
kindergarten
students
to
go
to
the
cafeteria.
K
We
are
at
capacity
with
teachers
and
students,
our
teachers
use
spaces,
like
storage,
closets,
hallways
any
place,
that's
available
to
deliver
instruction.
Our
school
suffers
from
numerous
maladies,
including
ill-fitting
doors,
60
or
60-year-old.
Single-Pane
windows
broken
plumbing
leaky,
roofs
and
an
issue
with
moisture
with
a
new
building.
Not
only
would
teachers
and
students
have
room
necessary
to
learn
and
to
teach,
but
there
would
also
be
dedicated
space
for
our
after-school
program,
which
services
about
200
students
a
day.
K
M
Asheville
middle
school's
programming
is
very
unique.
We
provide
a
program
that
is
not
offered
in
all
north
carolina
middle
schools.
It's
called
avid
advancement
via
individual
determination.
This
is
an
internationally
known
program
for
first-generation
college-bound
students
offered
to
all
sixth,
seventh
and
eighth
graders
during
their
exploratory
time.
Every
day,
each
grade
level
averages
approximately
40
students
making
two
classrooms
a
necessity.
M
This
program
grew
so
much.
Last
year
we
had
to
add
another
avid
teacher
and
another
classroom.
49
percent
of
students
at
asheville
middle
school
are
identified
as
academically,
intellectually
gifted.
This
is
compared
to
the
district
average
of
24
percent,
and
this
is
a
large
number,
because
we
must
remem
remember
that
all
elementary
students
feed
into
asheville
middle
school
extra
classroom
space
to
meet
with
these
students
is
a
need.
Our
two
aig
teachers
meet
with
students
in
6th,
7th
and
8th
grades.
Every
day,
meeting
space
is
required
for
them.
M
M
M
Our
band
program
has
grown
to
290
students
for
sixth,
seventh
and
eighth
graders
and
separate
practice.
Space
is
a
must.
The
middle
school
pe
and
health
program
requirements
have
become
more
rigorous
just
in
the
last
year,
with
the
new
state
mandate
for
the
cpr
requirement
to
be
met
in
eighth
grade,
along
with
reproductive
safety
being
taught
at
the
middle
school
level.
This
requires
space.
M
I
Continue
we're
going
to
take
a
closer
look
at
some
of
the
deficiencies
that
at
isaac
dixon,
for
example,
as
you've
been
mentioned,
that's
been
built
in
19,
53,
60
years
of
age
and
then
the
middle
school
we're
going
to
take
a
closer
look
at
both
of
those
but
under
isaac
dixon.
This
is
a
shot
of
the
hallway
kindergarten
first
grade
hallway
that
has
lack
of
flexible
spaces
and
in
today's
environment,
with
children
being
used
in
flexible
space.
I
Regrouping
is
very
common
as
best
practice
and
because
of
the
of
the
configuration
of
school,
it
really
limits
what
we
can
do
there.
Another
issue
about
dixon
is
that
antiquated
restrooms?
What
you
see
here
are
pipes
that
had
to
be
run
through
the
ceiling,
because
we
could
not
locate
the
the
leak
in
the
floor.
I
We
also
have
security
issues
in
the
area
that
is
located.
We
have
area
spaces
like
this.
We
have
to
make
sure
we
keep
people
out
there
visible
and
watching
the
students
throughout
the
school
day.
Also
issues
with
drainage,
you'll
see
when
it
rains.
This
area
is
prone
to
flooding,
where
kids
either
have
to
walk
around
or
cannot
use
this
space
because
of
the
flooding
areas.
Another
issue
with
an
old
building
is
60
years
old.
I
Like
this,
we
have
children
in
wheelchairs
and
we've
had
them
at
dixon
who
had
to
go
outside
down
the
the
walkway
and
come
around
through
the
building
by
the
gym
in
order
to
access
the
lower
fifth
grade
wing
down
there.
So
that
does
not
have
any
access
within
the
building.
Another
thing
is
inefficiencies.
This
is
a
picture
of
the
boiler
room,
and
this
is
the
real
boiler
room
that
we're
using
and
it's
we've
worked
on.
I
It
continue
to
keep
it
maintained,
but
that
is
an
actual
picture
that
we
are
using
that
boiler
room
and
lastly,
well
let
me
move
over
to
the
middle
school.
The
middle
school,
as
was
described
earlier,
was
built
as
a
high
school
and
then
changed
into
a
junior
high
and
now
we're
using
it
as
a
middle
school
and
and
that
facility
is
48
years
old.
So
it
is
showing
it's
it's
wear
and
tear,
but
one
of
the
pieces.
I
I
want
you
to
to
remember
from
the
middle
school
it
has
over
3
000
feet
of
haul
space
3000
feet:
that's
a
half
mile
of
hall
space
stairwells,
so
you
can
tell
you
when
you're
trying
to
create
a
small
team-oriented
middle
school,
it
really
has
been
difficult
to
do.
The
staff
done
a
great
job
along
with
ms
sellinger,
but
3
000
feet
of
hallways
and
stairways
to
supervise
with
middle
school.
Children
is
a
challenge
also,
the
middle
school
lacks
in
terms
of
science
labs.
I
I
The
sixth
and
seventh
grade
classrooms.
There's
a
portion
of
that
building,
that
is
in
the
interior
that
do
not
have
windows
at
all.
So
if
you're
teaching
in
that
space
and
many
of
our
teachers
who
are
here
tonight,
have
done
that
you
rely
heavily
on
the
hvac
system
and
it's
working
well,
you're,
okay,
but
when
it's
not
working
well,
you
can
imagine
spaces
that
do
not
have
any
exterior
windows
that
are
can
be
quite
troublesome,
also
an
area
as
far
as
I
mentioned,
the
stairwells,
but
the
bathrooms.
O
Chairman
gant
fellow
commissioners,
I'm
john
legerton
architect
for
the
new
isaac
dixon
elementary
school,
along
with
mike
nicholas
from
innovative
design
out
of
raleigh
north
carolina.
Our
firm
is
located
here
in
asheville
with
seven
employees
and
innovative
design
is
out
of
raleigh
with
12
employees.
O
O
O
O
O
And
that
is
one
that
calls
for
engaged,
active,
hands-on
learning,
emphasizing
relationships
for
the
students
with
the
local
community
in
the
world
and
that's
out
of
their
vision
statement
and
we've
stayed
true
to
that.
In
this
design
process.
All
along
we've
had
quite
a
number
of
participants
in
different
groups.
You
can
see
on
this
slide
the
list
of
people
from
the
public
students,
parents,
city,
school
officials,
we've
met
with
hill
street
baptist
church,
which
is
adjacent
to
the
school
other
community
members
and
neighbors
city,
police
and
housing
authority
staff.
O
We've
included
members
of
our
design
team
in
all
those
meetings
and
if
you
kind
of
look
at
the
last
six
months
in
total
in
terms
of
involvement
and
input,
we've
had
over
65
project
meetings
and
we
have
over
1160
parents,
students,
teachers,
administrators
and
community
representatives
involved.
So
the
designs
you're
seeing
tonight
excuse
me
for
this
new
school
really
have
had
a
lot
of
input
and
working
closely,
obviously
with
the
school
community
in
terms
of
our
project
schedule
we're
looking
at
an
18-month
construction
schedule.
O
The
plan,
then,
is
to
move
all
the
furniture,
fixtures
and
equipment
from
the
classrooms
at
dixon
over
to
the
randolph
school,
which
is
just
two
blocks
away,
and
then
again,
according
to
this
schedule,
that
in
july
of
this
summer,
2013
the
plan
is
to
start
construction
on
the
site
and
it
would
begin
with
demolishing
the
existing
school
doing
regrading
of
that
site.
The
new
school
is
going
to
be
all
on
one
level,
which
is
ideal
for
an
elementary
school
handles.
A
lot
of
accessibility
issues.
O
As
again,
you
know
the
theme
for
educational
theme
for
isaac
dixon
is
experiential
education.
So,
as
we've
met
with
the
teachers,
parents,
students,
we've
listened
carefully,
we've
tried
to
integrate
the
different
components
of
that
not
only
into
the
interior
spaces
in
the
building,
but
also
around
the
site.
The
nature
trail
at
the
back
of
the
current
school
will
be
maintained.
O
We
are
going
to
have
some
solar,
hot
water
heaters,
providing
hot
water
for
the
cafeteria
at
the
school,
we're
going
to
have
rainwater
collection,
tank
storage,
tanks
that
will
collect
rainwater
for
flushing
toilets
throughout
the
school
and
also
for
use
in
the
community
garden.
This
technology
has
also
been
used
at
the
most
recently
constructed
buncombe
county
intermediate
schools.
O
At
the
front
of
the
school.
We
have
some
sundials
again,
emphasizing
the
students
relationship
to
some
of
the
natural
daylighting
and
solar
technologies
that
are
into
the
school
there's
a
greenhouse
at
the
front
of
the
school,
which
is
an
educational
greenhouse
that
will
also
be
used
for
starting
plants
in
the
community
garden.
O
Over
here
on
the
left,
lower
left
side,
there
are
actually
two
storm
water
retention
ponds
and
those
will
be
treating
the
storm
water.
That's
coming
off
the
parking
lots
it'll,
also
a
portion
of
the
roof
of
the
building
and
water
will
be
draining
into
those
storm
water
ponds
and
then,
as
well
as
some
of
the
site
water
and
it's
a
less
expensive
way
than
creating
underground
tanks.
To
do
that.
O
But
the
upper
of
those
two
wetland
ponds
will
actually
be
an
educational
pond
for
students
to
come
and
use
to
experience
the
plants
to
test
water
and
see
how
it's
being
treated
so
that
will
again
be
part
of
the
educational
component
of
the
school,
and
I
still
having
trouble
with
this
advancing.
But
there
you
can
see
where
the
new
school
and
community
garden
will
be
used
located
in
front
of
the
school.
O
Now
that's
having
geothermal
wells,
but
warren
wilson,
unca,
mars
hill
college
have
all
done
projects
in
this
area
recently
and
found
that
technology
to
be
very
cost
effective
and
again,
as
mentioned
earlier,
the
importance
of
daylighting
in
the
school
we're
integrating
that
into
the
gym.
You
can
see
a
photo
there
into
the
cafeteria
into
the
media
center
there'll
be
daylighting
in
the
caf
in
the
media
center
and
then
all
three
of
the
classroom,
wings.
Every
single
classroom
will
have
extensive
daylighting
and
again,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
there's
very
long.
O
A
P
You
john
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
that
every
school
system
has
across
the
country.
Not
just
here
is
how
to
keep
your
operational
costs
down,
and
what
we've
done
from
an
energy
perspective
is
to
look
at
what's
out
there
right
now.
What's
the
average
consumption
of
schools
from
an
energy
perspective,
look
what
was
out
there
from
a
national
standard.
P
P
So
this
was
a
an
overall
strategy
it,
along
with
the
water
savings
and
the
energy
savings,
as
well
as
the
indoor
environmental
quality
issues
we're
in
a
situation
where
I
think
that,
from
a
lead
rating
system
that
we
will
be
the
first
net
zero
school
in
the
state
that
will
also
have
a
platinum,
the
highest
rating
environmental
reading.
But,
as
you'll
see
it's
from
a
cost,
a
cost-effective
standpoint,
it's
pretty
good
and
I
think
it'll
be
that
shining
example
for
the
whole
community,
not
just
of
this
particular
school
system.
P
We
think
that
over
the
next
30
years,
not
only
will
we
get
those
energy
savings,
but
we'll
be
looking
at
a
a
profit
where
the
the
county
and
the
the
school
system
will
have
to
put
no
money
down
and
through
the
developer,
be
able
to
own
and
operate
and
finance
then
transfer
that
ownership
to
a
point
where,
then,
you
will
reap
out
of
that
about
2.8
million
dollars
in
in
financial
benefit
over
the
30-year
period
with
no
money
down
on
this.
So
it's
a
pretty
good
deal.
P
If
you
look
at
the
individual
measures,
the
energy
strategies
that
we
have
there
there's
a
whole
package
of
them
from
the
energy
efficiency
measures
to
the
daylighting
that
we're
talking
about
that
has
a
good,
strong
energy
savings,
but
also
it
drives
down
the
cooling
loads
on
the
building.
The
geothermal
system
is
one
of
those
big
winners,
so
it's
it
really
drives
that
energy
savings
considerably
in
terms
of
bringing
that
cost
operational
cost
way
down.
P
We
have
a
very
small
solar,
hot
water
system,
a
couple
collectors,
so
there's
not
much
savings
but
of
those
items
that
you
see
combined
with
the
solar
developer
package.
You'll
end
up
with
a
strategy
that,
over
the,
if
I
can
get
there,
if
you
look
at
those
cumulatively
over
that
period
of
time
and
what
they
do
from
a
dollar
savings
for
that
the
package
itself
will
end
up
with
about
6.5
million
dollars
in
energy
savings,
which
would
represent
over
200
000
a
year
average
savings
over
that
period
of
time.
P
So
this
is
a
package
of
technologies
that
is
all
less
than
a
five-year
payback.
So
if
you
look
at
these
they're
all
going
to
be
a
reasonable,
the
solar
hot
water
system
by
itself,
the
small
system
of
three
collectors
would
be
the
one
technology
area
that
might
be
pushing
around
12
or
15
years,
but
the
rest
will
all
be
in
that
range.
That
will
be
a
solid
and
combined
together,
you're,
going
to
see
a
really
good
return
on
that
investment.
P
So
now
that
all
makes
sense
all
good
energy
savings.
But
of
course,
if
we
can't
get
this
thing
in
budget
and
keep
getting
get
a
reasonable
price
on
this,
it
doesn't
make
sense
right
so,
but
I
think
you're
going
to
see
from
a
dollar
standpoint
in
the
overall
budget,
we're
right
now
at
a
cost
of
around
a
hundred
and
seventy
eight
dollars
a
square
foot,
we're
looking
at
around
twenty
dollars,
a
square
foot
for
the
site
and
it's
a
very
difficult
site.
So
we'll
have
to
be.
P
Q
P
P
P
So
you
don't
see
anything
that
stands
out
from
that.
So
then
you
might
want
to
look
at
the
whole
overall
project
and
look
at
everything,
including
the
move
to
randolph
and
all
the
other
components
of
this
from
the
the
demolition
of
the
existing
school
and
the
the
commissioning
and
the
the
cm
company
that
would
be
coming
in
here,
and
particularly
all
those
things
that
are
really
not
part
of
a
typical
project,
but
are
in
this
case.
P
P
One
other
way
to
look
at
it
if
you
were
to
take
those
numbers
from
a
a
project
cost
standpoint
and
you
looked
at
just
the
building
and
then
took
a
while
those
oddball
things
are
particular
to
this
site
that
are
not
in
other
projects.
You
see
that
we're
also
pretty
good
shape.
There
was
the
cost
of
the
of
the
intermediate
schools
that
were
just
done
number
of
years
ago,
but
projected
to
this
year's
cost.
So
we're
looking
at
those
costs
and
then
say:
oh,
how
do
we
stand
up
against
them?
P
P
What's
not
in
those
prices
is
my
brother
is
in
addition
to
being
a
professor
at
the
university
digs
dinosaurs
and
he's
arranged
with
myself
to
to
get
this
critter
donated
to
the
school.
If
you
saw
this
in
the
video
when
you
came
in
through
the
front
door,
that
will
be
where
that
critter
is
it's
about
a
30
foot,
long
juvenile,
hadrosaur
it'll
be
the
real
thing,
so
it'll
be
the
first
of
those
in
this
state,
I'm
sure
as
well.
R
S
S
Building
to
engage
and
inspire
students
and
transform
our
community
building
to
engage
and
transform
our
community.
I
wanted
to
say
that
twice,
so
I
could
stress
the
importance
of
these
projects
to
the
future
of
our
community
beginning
the
project
with
this
mission
statement
has
enabled
us
to
communicate
quickly
with
parents,
staff
and
our
community
exactly
why
we
are
doing
these
projects.
S
In
september
2012,
we
began
a
series
of
programming
and
information
gathering
exercises
meeting
with
parents
staff
and,
most
importantly,
the
students,
information
was
gathered
and
it
encompassed
a
broad
perspective,
ranging
from
we
just
need
some
more
power
so
that
we
can
plug
our
computer
in
to.
We
have
to
open
the
windows
in
the
middle
of
the
winter
to
control
the
heat
and
one
student
even
said
to
me:
don't
make
the
stairs
so
closed.
I
get
scared.
S
S
S
S
Some
of
you
may
remember
the
day.
You
walked
into
middle
school.
After
being
the
big
man
on
campus
as
a
fifth
grader.
You
remember
that
I
do
it
was.
It
was
a
unique
experience
and
asheville
city
schools
is
uniquely
situated
with
the
magnet
school
systems.
Each
of
these
magnet
schools
has
a
distinctive
sense
of
place
and
a
sense
of
pride
walking
into
the
new
middle
school.
We
want
to
give
that
new,
sixth
grader
a
brief
glimpse
of
his
past
or
her
past.
S
S
The
new
facility
will
be
approximately
176
thousand
square
feet
constructed
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
existing
building.
Once
the
new
facility
is
completed
and
folks
are
in
the
new
building,
the
existing
building
will
be
torn
down,
allowing
for
parking
areas
and
potentially
a
green
space
along
south
french
broad.
In
order
to
accomplish
the
construction
with
within
the
campus
of
the
new
facility,
we're
going
to
have
to
create
a
very
tight
footprint
and
the
building
becomes
a
multi-story
facility
with
a
three-story
classroom
wing.
S
The
building's
organized
around
the
media
center,
the
media
center,
really
becomes
the
heart
of
the
building
and
also
the
administration
area.
The
administration
area
really
acts
as
the
gatekeeper
giving
us
that
security
that
we
need
right
at
the
front
door,
while
the
media
center
gives
us
this
transitional
zone
between
the
educational
areas,
the
career
and
edu
career
and
technical
education
spaces,
the
gym,
as
well
as
the
auditorium,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
gym
in
the
auditorium
are
organized
so
that
that
built
so
that
the
building
can
be
used
after
hours
by
the
community.
S
The
classroom
wings
are
organized
in
four
team
studios.
Each
team
has
a
common
studio
space
and
we've
minimized
the
amount
of
corridors
in
the
building
that
and
we've
taken
some
of
the
space
that
traditionally
would
be
used
for
lockers
and
for
circulation
and
incorporated
that
into
these
team
studio
spaces.
S
S
Physical
activity
is
important
to
middle
schools.
Middle
schoolers,
existing
middle
school
has
two
gymnasium
spaces
in
the
new
facility.
We
reduce
that
to
one
gymnasium
that
meets
the
middle
school
requirements
with
a
regulation,
size,
basketball
area
and
a
multi-purpose
space.
Locker
rooms
currently
in
the
existing
facility
are
located
underneath
the
gym
really
creating
a
problem
for
security
and
safety.
These
locker
rooms
are
located
adjacent
to
the
gymnasium,
to
increase
supervision
vision
and
provide
increased
safety.
S
S
S
We've
implemented
a
practical
approach
while
reducing
the
operating
expenses
and
the
increasing
the
building's
longevity
we're
hoping
to,
and
we
will
incorporate
and
eliminate
the
negative
environmental
impacts
on
the
building.
We
will
reduce
the
operating
costs.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
will
increase
the
students,
productivity
and
their
performance
by
incorporating
daylighting
into
this
facility.
S
Our
schedule
and
the
next
steps
we
currently
are
in
early
phases
of
schematic
design
and
we
are
working
to
select
a
construction
manager
and
we
should
have
the
design
development
drawings
completed
by
october.
The
first
construction
documents
would
be
completed
the
following
year
in
september
of
2014,
with
a
notice
to
start
construction
in
november
of
2014..
S
The
current
proposed
construction
budget
for
this
project
is
39
million
137
dollars,
30
137
000,
the
cost
per
square
foot
is
approximately
221
dollars
per
square
foot
and
the
current
proposed
total
project
budget
total
project
budget
would
be
everything.
Furniture
fixtures
technology
equipment
would
be
around
46.9
million
dollars.
I
I
We
did
a
study
back
in
2010,
where
we
had
leolio
from
south
carolina
to
come
in
and
do
a
study
for
us,
and
that
study
looked
at
a
capacity
of
765
students
and
also
retaining
the
auditorium,
as
well
as
the
gym,
maintaining
a
minimum
cost
for
hvac.
But
there
were
no
soft
costs
included
in
that
figure.
No
furnishings
were
done
and
escalation
was
not
included.
I
This
particular
project
with
pbcnl
in
2013
that
we've
done
is
capacity
of
a
thousand
students
because
we
wanted
to
take
in
consideration
our
growth
that
was
indicated
earlier,
as
well
as
looking
at
a
new
gm
and
auditorium.
This
is
a
sustainable
50-year
building
and
it
does
include
the
soft
cost.
So
if
you
look
at
basically
those
last
three
bullets,
that's
the
major
difference
in
terms
of
more
students,
as
well
as
a
soft
cost
are
included,
which
means
total
cost
and
all
of
that.
I
I
want
to
thank
ledgerton
and
innovative
design
for
go
ahead
and
being
very
judicious
and
developing
this
plan
on
a
tight
schedule
and
they
have
dixon
ready
to
go
once
we're.
Given
the
green
light
by
the
commissioners.
If
you're
able
to
do
that,
I
think
we
can
see
dixon
go
ahead
and
begin
in
july.
I
also
want
to
want
to
thank
colleague,
tim
fearley
with
buncombe
county
schools.
I
think
tim's
here
tonight
tim.
Where
are
you
he
was
here.
I
want
to
thank
tim
fairly
for
taking
a
look
at
our
plans.
I
He
also
met
with
the
architects
of
both
firms
and
has
a
report
that
we
will
provide
to
you
tonight,
so
I
have
a
copy
of
that
for
you,
but
tim
wanna.
Thank
you
for
helping
with
that
and
with
your
expertise,
but
also
our
plan
was
hopefully
with
a
positive
response
from
the
commissioners
about
funding.
Both
the
middle
school
and
dixon.
I
Also,
we
have
part
of
our
plan
would
be.
How
do
we
going
to
pull
this
off,
and
that
means
we
would
need
to
relocate
our
randolph
students
to
another
location
that
we
are
looking
currently
with
talk
with
city
manager,
gary
jackson,
we
are
looking
for
a
number
of
options
and
we'll
include
our
dixon
fam.
I
I
mean
randolph
families
and
students
in
and
staff
in
that
decision,
whatever
that
might
be,
but
also
we're
looking
at
commencing
construction,
as
I
said
in
july
of
13
utilizing
a
construction
manager,
but
also
knowing
we
won't
very
much
be
sensitive
to
local
contractors
and
try
to
hire
as
many
of
those
as
possible,
with
whatever
funding
and
whatever
projects
we
do.
The
middle
school
design
process
we're
going
to
continue
with
that
and
prep
for
project
bids
for
next
year
for
july
of
2014..
I
So
in
a
nutshell,
dixon
is
ready
this
budget
year
and
the
middle
school
won't
be
ready
to
bid
until
next
budget
year.
So
there's
two
different
time
cycles
on
that,
and
you
see
that
the
timelines
for
opening
both
of
those
schools
were
there,
but
you
know
bottom
line
overall
for
us
we
have
aging
facilities
both
of
these
schools.
Dixon
is
60
years
old.
The
middle
school
is
approaching
50..
We
have
a
increasing
enrollment
in
our
school
system.
I
That
is
demonstrated
by
what
we
currently
have
over
the
past
four
years.
That
a
slide
mr
whiteside
showed
you
as
well
as
the
projections
dpi
have
also
provided
to
us.
They're
projecting
us
to
grow
another
157
students
next
school
year,
so
we
have
a
have
to
have
a
place
to
play
to
put
these
children.
That's
what
we're
concerned
about
also
a
comprehensive
search
for
architects.
I
We've
done
school
and
community
collaboration
that
we've
certainly
involved
a
lot
of
stakeholders,
but
the
bottom
line
for
us
is
improved
achievement
student
achievement
and
that's
what
we're
after
that's
what
the
investments
are
about
from
from
all
of
us,
but
it's
also
good
schools
help
recruiting
businesses
to
our
area.
You
know
that
dixon
will
be
two
blocks
from
the
chamber
of
commerce
what
a
important
school
for
that
to
be
right
there
as
businesses
come
to
town
and
then
middle
school,
certainly
in
the
heart
of
downtown.
I
A
Well,
let's
do
this,
I
I
think
we
actually
have
all
members
of
your
school
board
here.
You
have
jackie
hallam
here.
I
forgot
jackie
good
to
see
you.
We
have
precious
falston
here,
yep
right
there,
and
then
you
have
miss
peggy
dahman.
Here
I
think
I
saw
her.
Thank
you
all
of
you
all
their
school
board
is
here
and
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
all
the
time
you
put
in
as
well
as
mr
vice
chair,
whiteside
and
chairman
bell.
A
T
And
it's
just
amazing.
Thank
you.
It's
on
that's
a
lot
of
information
to
try
to
take
in
in
that
period
of
time.
The
presentation
is
was
well
done.
I'll
applaud
everybody.
For
that
I
I
would
just
like
to
know
if
you
know
the
two
hundred
dollars
a
square
foot
that
I
saw
okay,
I
saw
several
figures
there
and
I
got.
I
got
confused.
Okay,
it's
pretty
easy
for
me
to
do
so.
I
apologize,
but
we
were
178,
went
to
194
dollars
a
square
foot.
I
T
That's
right:
okay
and
we
went
to
the
average
in
the
region
was
200
a
square
foot.
Okay,
and
then
you
showed
a
slide
that
showed
an
increase
over
the
next
few
years
of
10
a
year,
which
I
would
I
would
kind
of
like
for
you
to
explain
your
your
math
on
the
10
year,
because
I
know
that
what's
occurred
in
some
areas
is
that
actually
the
cost
of
construction
has
flatlined
went
down
because
there's
more
competit,
you
know
most
of
the
jobs,
that's
lost
of
the
last
little
bit.
T
It's
been
in
construction
and
the
bidding
process,
it
just
got
crazy
competitive
and
then
it
went
up
to
so.
I
was
kind
of
challenging
the
10
a
year
number
to
get
to
the
235
dollar
square
foot.
I
think
you
got
to
so.
That
was
one
question
and
the
other
is
that
I
think
it
was
75
000
square
feet
and
what
is
the
current
school.
C
U
C
P
No
it's
right
at
the
state
average.
So
basically
you
start
with
what
north
carolina
public
instruction
sets
out
as
guidelines
for
the
school
and
so
you're.
Looking
at
those
numbers
and
then
you're
trying
to
compare
and
through
all
of
these
kind
of
sessions,
where
we
work
with
the
staff
and
teachers
we
try
to
play
with
those
numbers
to
see.
P
O
T
O
O
O
O
This
permitting
cost
the
special
inspections
that
the
state
requires
during
construction,
the
lead
related
costs
and
then
a
construction
contingency
and
and
again
the
two
bunking
county
intermediate
schools
in
2010.
You
factored
all
those
things
in
and
it
came
up,
184
square
feet
dollars
per
square
foot.
What
we
then
did
is
look
at
that
10
percent
increase
that
we've
actually
that
the
dpi
the
state
dpi
is
documented
over
the
last
several
years.
O
Up
until
2011,
it's
been
increasing
statewide
and
we
implied
that
same
10
percent
inflation
rate
up
to
2013
and
when
you
apply
that
same
inflation
rate
to
the
184
dollars,
a
square
foot
for
the
intermediate
schools
in
2010
and
you
bring
it
to
2013
prices
and
they
come
up.
It
comes
up
equal
to
240
dollars
a
square
foot
if
you
were
building
those
buncombe
county
intermediate
schools
today,
what
isaac
dixon
with
those
all
those
same
cost
factors
I
just
mentioned
in
our
cost.
O
Q
Q
O
What,
if
you
take
the
19
million
990
000,
almost
20
million
figure,
and
you
divide
that
by
the
square
foot
you'll
get
a
higher
number
the
difference
and
again
we're
just
trying
to
compare
apples
and
apples
and
all
that
the
full
19
million
dollar
cost
includes
the
move
to
randolph
the
storage
of
the
furniture,
fixtures
and
equipment
in
randolph
for
two
years
until
randolph
can
go
back
in
there.
It
includes,
I
believe,
the
water
line
extension.
O
It
includes
some
of
the
costs
that
the
buncombe
county
schools
didn't
see.
We
have
about
450
000
dollars
allocated
in
this
budget,
full
19,
20
million
dollar
budget
for
dealing
with
unsuitable
soils
which
are
currently
on
the
isaac
dixon
site.
There
was
an
old
ravine
there
and
when
they
built
the
gym
years
ago,
they
put
wood
piles
underneath
it
in
order
to
build
it,
we
can't
put
a
new
school
on
on
that
material.
It
has
to
be
all
dug
out
and
re-compacted
with
good
soil
and
the
buncombe
county.
O
Schools
didn't
have
those
site
problems,
so
we
took
that
cost
out
and
the
demo
of
the
schools
and
there's
some
environmental
issues
to
deal
with
when
you
demolish
that
school.
So
we
took
those
costs
out
that
ends
up
with
a
17
million
dollar
number,
but
when
you
factor
all
the
costs,
including
the
randolph
demolition,
the
cost
I
just
mentioned
it
gets
up
to
20
million.
O
P
P
We
we
look
at
the
energy
savings,
we
look
at
the
water
savings
and
then
we
really
do
look
at
that
environmental,
that
indoor
air
quality
aspect
of
it
making
sure
it's
healthy
place
to
be
and-
and
we
then
just
kind
of
let
the
chips
fall
where
they
are
because
we
know
if
we
get
that
energy
right
and
we
do
things
this,
these
strategies
are
a
five-year
deal.
You
can
get
them
all
back,
so
they're,
good
investments,
the
water
savings
is
90
of
this
water
is
going
to
be
saved.
All
these
are
good
savings.
P
It's
just
at
the
end.
I
tell
our
design
team.
Well
just
do
what
we
should
be
doing,
make
sure
it
makes
sense
and
then
we'll
add
up
the
points
at
the
end
and
that's
we
did
so.
We
added
up
and
it's
a
platinum
deal,
but
that
wasn't
our
goal
going
in
wasn't
to
make
it
a
platinum
lead.
Our
goal
was
to
make
it
energy
efficient,
environmentally
sound
and
healthy
building,
and
then
we
know
that
if
we
do
that
right,
it'll
come
out.
Okay,.
P
R
C
Well,
it's
just
like
the
energy.
What
what
is
the
energy?
I
have
a
friend
that's
got
solar
panels
on
the
route
he
started
out:
11
cents
now
he's
down
four
cents.
So
what
what
is
you
know?
You're
talking
is
going
to
make
money.
How
do
you
make
money
when
you're
one
one
point
you're
11
cents
and
then
you're
down
to
four
cents.
P
It's
because
the
cost
of
photovoltaics,
the
main
solar
in
system
here,
is
actually
reducing
that
much.
So
the
reason
that
the
utility
company
has
reduced
that
incentive
is
because
the
cost
of
the
technology
has
dropped
that
much
so
even
at
that
lower
amount.
You're
going
to
see
people
very
interested
in
doing
this
investment
that
technology
has
dropped.
P
That
much
when
you
were
saying
that
I
had
it
on
my
house
as
well,
so
it
was
a
technology
that
was
costing
on
my
house
four
years
ago,
I
put
paid
ten
thousand
dollars
per
kw
that
same
system
right
now
would
be
thirty
3600
kw
four
years
later,
that's
how
much
it's
dropped.
So
that's
why
progress
has
also
dropped.
Their
incentives
makes
sense.
V
V
That's
allocated
to
the
school's
own
per
capita
students,
there's
roughly
4
100
students
in
the
city,
25,
000
or
so
in
the
county.
So
that
makes
a
a
very
difficult
funding
situation
for
us
in
trying
to
to
balance
that
it
doesn't
work,
and
course
questions
have
come
up
was.
Why
has
the
city
not
set
aside
funding
that
your
portion
you
get
from
this
for
future
schools?
And
you
know
we
could
talk
about
that
all
night.
I
think
the
bottom
line
everyone
would
like
to
see
a
new
school
for
the
children.
V
V
If
they
were
consolidated,
these
schools
would
immediately
rise
to
the
top
of
the
building
requirements
for
county.
So
that
is
a
factor.
There's
a
lot
of
things:
that'll
have
to
go
into
making
a
decision.
I
think
we're
all
committed
to
looking
at
this
very
closely
and
we
want
to
come
up
with
a
solution
that
works
best
for
all
county
children,
whether
in
the
city
county
or
whatever.
V
V
I
guess,
we're
looking
at
premium
school
here
when
we
ask
the
county
schools
to
basically
work
with
budget
schools,
and
so
we
we've
somehow
got
to
look
at
this
and
balance
this,
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
answer
is.
That's
what
we're
going
to
as
a
board
take
the
time
between
now
and
budget
time
to
hopefully
hammer
out
something
that
works,
but
but
those
are
very
serious
considerations
that
we've
got
to
look
at.
V
S
I
can
address
a
few
of
those
items.
Some
of
those
I
think
dr
johnson
is
going
to
have
to
address
one
of
the
primary
components
associated
with
the
middle
school.
That
is
different
from
the
intermediate
schools
that
were
recently
constructed,
as
is
the
programming
components.
The
program
of
a
middle
school
is
substantially
different
from
an
intermediate
school.
In
that
we
have
shop
spaces,
we
have
a
number
of
classroom
spaces
that
are
not
included
as
part
of
an
intermediate
classroom.
S
S
And,
and
I'm
going
from
memory,
I
think
they
were
in
the
80
5
000
square
foot
range
10
may
be
able
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
What's
that
105,
so
we're
one
and
a
three-quarters
times
the
size
of
that
when
the
schools
were
constructed
when
the
intermediate
schools
were
constructed,
we
had
a
different
energy
code.
S
Now
these
buildings
are
required
to
meet
the
energy
code
that
we're
currently
using
in
north
carolina,
which
increases
the
the
cost
of
the
facilities
as
well.
So
those
are
just
a
couple
of
items
that
have
impacted
the
cost
and
and
not
really
an
apples
to
apples
comparison
when
you're,
comparing
the
middle
school
to
the
intermediate
schools
can.
S
S
Building
yeah.
So
that's
a
good
point.
Dr
johnson
just
pointed
out
that
these
numbers
that
we
have
presented
to
you
include
the
demolition
of
the
existing
facilities,
as
well
as
the
environmental
issues
that
we're
having
to
deal
with
on
the
site,
also
particular
to
that
urban
condition
are
increased
site
cost.
You
know
our
baseline
building
is
basically
the
same
as
it
is
throughout
the
entire
state,
but
our
site
costs
a
lot
more
to
build
on
than
it
does
in
a
typical
flat
eastern
north
carolina.
B
Site
think
the
powerful
thing
for
me,
because
I
am
concerned
that
the
headlines
are
going
to
be
asheville
city
wants
to
build
premium
schools,
and
I
think
that
the
data
that's
come
forward.
Pretty
strong
tonight
has
been
the
comparison
with
the
regional
calls,
with
comparison
with
the
square
footage
per
when
you,
when
you
do
get
down
to
the
apples
and
apples
of
it
all
we're.
It
is
right
in
line
we've
got
these
other
expensive
things
like
demolition
like
site,
soil
problems
like
relocation
like.
B
R
B
Are
equally
of
quality
that
we
that
we've
had?
I
think
that's
fair,
so
I
I
I
think
when
y'all
read
the
the
we
just
got
this
report
that
was
passed
around
from
mr
fearley,
and
I
really
appreciate
him
putting
his
brain
to
this
too.
You
know
we
didn't
know
what
he
was
going
to
say
right,
I
mean
it's
like
okay.
We
hope
it's
going
to
be.
You
know,
but
it's
very
detailed,
it's
very
sound
thinking
and
it
it
it.
B
The
conclusion
is
this:
this
is
what
it
costs
now
y'all
and
now
that
doesn't
answer
our
question
of
how
we're
going
to
do
it,
but
I
do
feel
like
that.
The
product
that
we've
been
presented
tonight
is
right
in
line
with
with
the
other
fine
products
that
we've
we've
supported
before,
and
I
do
think
we
are
going
up
in
the
time
of.
I
think
our
construction
costs
are
starting
to
go
up
now,
and
you
know
we
better
get
that
dixon
school
done,
quick
before
it
goes
up,
even
even
faster.
B
A
A
Okay,
well,
let's
go
ahead
and
do
public
comment
any
members
of
the
public-
and
I
think
there'll
be
a
lot.
Why
don't
we?
Why
don't
you
raise
your
hand
and
well,
we
have
about
three
of
you
on
on
batter's
box
there,
where
superintendent,
okay
and,
if
you'll,
give
your
name
and
address
where
you
live
and
that'd
be
a
good
way
to
go.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
have
one
more.
A
W
A
X
Okay,
my
name
is
robert
grant
and
I
live
in
asheville,
I'm
a
student
at
william
randolph
school
okay.
So
my
question
is:
how
is
isaac
dixon
going
to
function
at
william
randolph?
If
there
are
so
many
students
there
and
it's
a
really
small
school
and
like
the
cost,
to
move
the
schools?
That's
a
lot
because
you're
moving
two
buildings
instead
of
you're
moving
two
schools
instead
of
one.
X
So
that's
just
gonna
double
the
cost,
instead
of
just
moving
one
school
like
you're,
moving
randolph
and
isaac
dixon,
instead
of
just
moving
like
isaac
dixon
to
a
place
because,
like
majority
of
the
students
at
william
randolph,
do
not
want
to
go
to
asheville
high,
I
have
no
idea.
I
have
no
idea
why,
but
they
just
don't:
okay,
leaving
schools
and
streets
they're,
one
of
our
partners
there.
X
I
really
would
love
them
to
stay
there,
because
they're
helping
us
out
like
with
our
recording
studio,
that
we
stay
after
school
with
and
do
I'm
one
of
the
producers
there,
and
I
have
three
members
that
are
like
recording
artists
there
that
I
work
with
and
one
of
those
leaf
partners.
There
they've
taught
me
so
much
about
how
to
use
recording
studio
and
they
just
really
taught
me
a
lot
our
belongings
there,
like
we
have
like
just
like.
I
said
this
studio.
We
also
have
a
greenhouse.
X
X
X
A
Y
With
that
professional
experience
of
what
works
in
education
and
the
fact
that
the
architects
have
spent
so
much
time
really
tailoring
this
school
based
on
the
thoughts
and
professional
judgment
of
the
people
who
are
in
the
trenches
every
day
makes
it
something
that
will
affect
our
kids
deeply
for
50
60
years,
instead
of
just
a
box
of
school
and
we're
doing
it
at
the
same
cost.
So
I
I
think
that
has
to
be
said.
That's.
Z
Z
When
my
wife
and
I
we
moved
to
asheville
about
seven
years
ago,
we
had
an
idea
that
this
would
be
a
good
place
to
live
and
raise
children,
and
we
liked
it
so
much.
We
decided
to
have
a
second
child,
so
yeah
isaac,
dixon
elementary,
has
been
a
great
part
of
that
experience
being
here
these
past
years,
the
prospect
of
a
new
elementary
school
building
and
a
renovated
middle
school
is
very
exciting
news
to
us,
as
parents
and
to
many
other
parents.
Z
We
plan
to
be
here
for
many
years
and
one
day
I
hope
that
our
children
will
be
able
to
take
howard,
shepherd's
english
class
at
asheville
high
school
he's
our
backdoor
neighbor
in
west
asheville
addition.
We
also
volunteer
to
support
the
outstanding
teachers
who
instruct
and
care
for
our
children
every
day,
and
I
just
want
to
say
publicly.
I
love
public
school
teachers
and
staff.
That's
right.
Z
There
are
many
parents
like
me
who
are
involved
in
the
school
and
that's
one
of
the
great
things
about
isaac,
dixon
and
the
reason
we
chose
it
is
because
of
the
great
parent
involvement
we
have
invested
ourselves
in
this
school
in
this
community
and
we
hope
that
you
will
invest
in
us,
and
I
want
to
make
one
mention.
The
gentleman
earlier
said
something
derogatory
about
coming
and
asking
a
public
body
to
spend
tax
dollars
wisely.
I
take
issue
with
that.
U
Mr
chairman
and
county
commissioners,
my
name
is
steve
dykes.
I
live
in
asheville
and
I
serve
as
president
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
asheville
city
schools
foundation.
I
want
to
first
thank
you
for
considering
these
two
construction
projects
that
are
before
you
and
second
thank
you
for
welcoming
and
allowing
public
comment
on
this.
We
we
really
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
out
of
your
schedule
to
do
that.
U
I
don't
think
I'd
get
much
of
an
argument
if
I
said
that
asheville
in
large
part
drives
the
economic
engine
of
western
north
carolina
and
our
public
schools
helped
drive,
asheville's
and
buncombe
county's
future
by
providing
educational
opportunity
for
all
of
those
of
school
age.
That's
reflected
in
a
workforce
that
industry
is
willing
to
put
a
bet
down
on,
and
the
quality
of
candidates
or
job
applicants
who
walk
through
local
business
owners
doors.
U
U
U
AA
Hello,
my
name
is
libby
kyles
and
I
am
a
fifth
grade
teacher
at
isaac
dixon.
I
live
in
the
city
of
asheville.
I
also
went
to
asheville
junior
high.
I
am
a
graduate
of
asheville
high
school
and
I
taught
in
lincoln
county
and
when
the
opportunity
presented
itself
to
come
back
to
isaac
dixon,
I
was
ecstatic.
AA
We
love
our
kids,
we
love
what
we
do
and
we
know
that
by
getting
a
new
building
and
improving
the
environment,
we're
going
to
improve
the
learning
of
our
students.
What
better
way
can
we
show
our
students
that
we
honor
them?
We
love
them
and
that
we
put
education
first,
then
to
give
them
a
new
learning
environment.
AB
AB
C
AB
AC
AB
AD
I
live
in
the
county,
I
work
in
the
city
and
my
children
graduated
from
the
city,
but
they
went
to
elementary
in
the
county
school,
but
I've
been
at
ashland
middle
school
for
22
years
since
its
existence
and
it's
semi-transformation
from
a
high
school
to
a
junior
high
to
a
middle
school,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
in
some
of
the
situations
that
our
kids
are
in
in
the
classroom
would
not
be
a
comfortable
situation
for
you
when
that
school
was
originally
built.
The
7th
and
6th
grade
halls
were
open
commons
areas.
AD
They
have
now
taken
those
hallways
when
we
turned
it
into
a
middle
school
and
they
made
them
into
classrooms.
They
have
small
windows,
but
they
do
not
look
outside.
So
these
children
attend
class
in
a
classroom
all
day
long.
That
has
no
windows,
but
that's
what
we've
done
at
asheville
middle
school
and
we
have
been
very
successful
with
our
students
and
everything
that
we
do
there.
AD
There's
a
lot
of
exit
doors,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that,
over
the
my
22
years
at
ashland
middle
school,
that
I
have
worked
very
hard
with
a
faculty
right
there,
along
with
me
and
administration,
that
wanted
to
see
safety
for
our
kids
and
we
ensured
that
it
was
done.
No
matter
what
elements
we've
had
to
work
in.
AD
I
know
we've
had
several
people
that
have
had
to
leave
jocelyn
reese,
since
our
pto
person
has
had
to
leave
our
parent,
but
if
you
belong
to
ashley
middle
school
in
our
family,
if
you
please
rise,
so
you
can
be
recognized.
We
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
us
this
opportunity.
Thank
you.
Miss
weeks,
yes,
ma'am.
AE
AE
AE
Of
the
letters
talk
about
the
things
that
we've
heard
tonight,
mold
drafty
windows,
mice,
not
being
able
to
see
the
smart
board
because
of
the
lighting
in
our
school,
but
I
want
to
talk
about
a
couple
other
things
tonight.
In
my
opinion,
the
proposed
building
for
isaac
dixon
is
not
a
mcmansion.
It's
a
21st
century
learning
facility.
AE
Leed
certified
buildings
are
now
the
norm.
Just
like
kids
being
able
to
oper
operate.
Smart
smartphones.
Excuse
me,
kids,
being
able
to
operate.
Smartphones
are
now
the
norm,
so
are
leed
buildings.
The
last
two
buildings
built
in
buncombe
county
were
both
leed
certified
buildings
school
buildings.
It
only
seems
fair
that
asheville
city
would
also
have
lee
certified
school
buildings
and
over
time
leed
certified
buildings
save
money.
They
might
seem
scary
and
expensive
at
first,
but
over
time
they
save
a
lot
of
money
in
operating
costs.
AE
AE
Additionally,
in
the
wake
of
sandy
hook,
a
lot
of
us
are
thinking
about
safety
in
a
different
way.
It's
almost
impossible
to
do
appropriate
safety
upgrades
in
a
60
year
old
facility.
I
know
where
my
school,
where
my
classroom
is
on
the
bottom
floor.
Anybody
could
walk
in
and
do
anything
they
wanted
through
those
very
thin
windows
and
that
doesn't
feel
very
safe
for
for
me
for
my
students
for
our
community.
AE
Finally,
I
would
like
to
encourage
you
guys
to
come
and
take
a
visit
of
isaac
dixon
if
you
haven't
already.
I
know
that
there's
plenty
of
people
in
our
school
students,
teachers,
administrators
alike,
who
would
love
to
show
you
around,
and
our
class
in
particular-
would
love
to
show
you
the
antiquated
single
pane
windows,
where
you
can
feel
the
air
coming
from
the
outside
and
the
heat
just
blows
right
out
there.
My
students
in
my
class
have
taken
to
sitting
next
to
the
heater
while
reading,
because.
AC
AE
AF
Hi,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
board
members.
I'm
kathy
durham,
I'm
a
west
asheville
resident
I've
been
here
for
eight
and
a
half
years
and
chose
this
community
because
of
the
quality
life
with
asheville,
and
I
am
the
mother
of
two
children
will
here
who's
now
sinking
below
the
lectern?
Who
is
a
second
grader
and
nate?
Who
is
a
kindergartener
and
I'm
also
a
future
parent
of
asheville
school
asheville
middle
school?
So
I
have
a
vested
interest
in
both
of
these
projects.
AF
My
husband
and
I
did
not
choose
isaac.
Dixon
will
did
he
chose
it
because
when
we
went
to
visit
there
he
loved
the
grounds
he
loved
the
gardens
he
loved
the
surroundings,
he
loved
the
warm
people
there
and
the
teachers,
and
he
also
had
a
lot
of
friends
who
were
going
there.
So
it's
become
our
community
in
our
home.
AF
AF
I
love
the
diversity
and
the
educational
experience
at
isaac.
Dixon
ids
has
a
rich
history
and
has
contributed
to
the
community
in
in
many
many
ways,
and
I'm
very
proud
to
say
that
I'm
a
parent
of
children
at
isaac
dixon,
but
I
have
to
say
it's
interesting
when
I
do
comment
to
friends
to
acquaintances,
to
colleagues
about
you
know
being
a
parent
at
isaac
dixon,
they
say.
Oh,
I
went
there
too
and
they're
40
and
50
years
old.
So
I
have
to
wonder
how
our
teachers
and
our
administrators
are
continuing
to
do.
AF
The
amazing
work
that
they
do
in
the
facility
that
they're
doing
it
in
it
is
amazing,
work
that
they're
doing
and
they're
plugging
in
plugging
in
21st
century
technology
and
21st
century
equipment
into
a
very,
very
old
and
functionally
obsolete
building.
I'm
very
excited
about
the
plans
that
have
I've
seen
for
the
facility.
They
we
saw
them
also
in
december,
very
excited
about
it
that
it
incorporates
not
only
the
the
future
for
another
60
years,
but
it
also
engages
the
children
in
that
experience.
AF
AG
Good
evening,
commissioners,
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
so
much
time
to
think
thoughtfully
about
this
issue.
My
name
is
kate
pett,
and
I
am
the
director
of
the
asheville
city
schools
foundation,
I'm
also
a
parent
of
two
children
who
will
be
at
two
different
elementary
schools,
but
who
soon
will
be
attending
asheville
middle
school.
I'm
also
a
former
middle
school
teacher,
and
so
we've
heard
so
many
great
comments
about
the
necessity
for
replacing
isaac
dixon.
I
want
to
speak
to
you
for
a
minute
about
the
importance
and
the
necessity
for
replacing
asheville
middle
school.
AG
AG
The
current
school
building
lacks
the
facilities
to
prepare
students
for
21st
century
learning.
The
facilities
are
completely
inadequate,
for
instance,
with
regards
to
science
labs.
I
was
a
science
teacher
and
I
can
vouch
for
that.
It's
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
need
to
invest
in
in
public
education
or
education
in
general,
and
currently
we
cannot
deliver
21st
century
science-ready
science
literate
community
unless
we
invest
in
adequate
science
facilities
at
our
middle
school.
AG
Furthermore,
these
facilities
make
connectivity
for
technology
challenging.
50
percent
of
the
students
who
attend
asheville
middle
school
are
living
below
poverty.
Their
only
experience
with
technology
will
be
at
the
schools
middle
school
students
must
be
using
technology
interacting
regularly
and
become
technology.
AG
AC
AC
I
teach
at
william
randolph
school,
which
you've
heard
about
tonight,
and
you
also
were
able
to
hear
from
one
of
my
wonderful
students,
mr
robert
grant,
I'm
also,
I
don't
think
I
mentioned
this
a
20-plus
year
resident
of
asheville-
I'm
not
here
to
say
anything
about
funding.
I
think
all
of
our
city
schools
need
upgrades.
AC
What
I'm
here
to
talk
about
is
to
make
sure
that,
in
your
consideration,
you
considerate,
you
consider
all
the
students
in
our
city,
schools,
my
school
is
a
small
school.
We
have
a
student
body
of
60,
99
percent,
live
below
the
federal
poverty
guidelines,
99
live
and
subsidized
housing.
I'm
here,
because
my
students
wanted
me
to
speak
tonight
in
all
that.
We've
heard
we've
heard
some
about
transition
plans
for
randolph,
but
we
don't
see
up
there
anything
in
black
and
white.
That
says
where
our
students
are
going
to
be
that's
a
concern
for
my
students.
AC
It
affects
their
learning,
it
affects
their
ability
to
concentrate,
it
affects
everything
and
if
you
don't
know
about
randolph,
it's
an
alternative
school
middle
and
high
school
students
who
are
not
successful
in
the
larger
schools.
They
come
there,
it's
their
safety
zone
right
now,
they
don't
feel
safe.
They
see
that
these
big
changes
are
coming.
They
don't
know
where
they're
going
tonight,
we
learned
and
heard
for
the
first
time
that
there's
a
line
item
about
packing
up
our
supplies
and
our
furniture
in
our
school
for
students
to
find
this
out
in
this
way.
AC
To
me
as
an
educator
is
heartbreaking.
Anything
that
you
consider.
I
want
you
to
consider
these
60
students.
We
are
a
graduating
institution.
So
far,
we've
graduated
14th
students
who,
when
they
came
to
us
in
eighth
grade,
were
high
dropout
risk
the
highest
in
the
city.
Thank
you
very
much
for
considering
all
our
needs.
A
F
F
F
F
F
A
AH
Hi,
my
name
is
chuck
larrick
and
I'm
a
citizen
of
asheville
city,
and
I
also
work
at
asheville
middle
school
and
I've
had
the
grant
grand
prix,
grand
pr
privilege
of
working
in
the
interior
rooms
of
the
middle
school
and
as
a
teacher,
when
the
thermometer
on
the
board
says
94
degrees.
I
can
guarantee
that
there's
no
learning
going
on
in
any
of
those
rooms,
because
the
kids
are
passed
out
when
you
have
11
year
olds
and
12
year
olds
that
are
in
truly
shut-in
rooms.
AH
AH
A
AI
Hi,
my
name
is
kate
fisher
and
I
live
downtown
in
asheville
in
northside,
a
proud
resident
of
northside
asheville.
If
I
make
it
through
this
without
crying
it'll,
be
a
miracle.
I
have
several
things
to
say.
I
am
a
parent
of
a
fourth
grader
at
isaac
dixon
and
a
seventh
grader
at
asheville
middle
school.
My
middle
schooler
also
met
isaac
dixon,
so
we've
been
part
of
the
school
system
for
eight
years,
I'm
an
avid
volunteer
and
a
champion
for
public
schools
everywhere,
buncombe
county
asheville
city
worldwide.
It's
very
important
to
me.
AI
I
think
that
when
I
first
saw
dixon
I
thought
wow
I
want
to
go
to
school
here.
It's
dirty
and
it's
messy
and
people
are
all
over
the
ground
and
they're
playing
with
stuff.
And
it's
it's
great,
and
I
looked
at
my
kid
and
I
said:
there's
no
way
he's
gonna
pick
it.
He
likes
things
to
be
in
order
and
stacked
and
and
we
went
home
and
a
few
weeks
later
I
asked-
and
he
said
you
know
mommy.
I
need
to
go
to
isaac
dixon,
because
I
think
I
can
learn
something
there.
AI
AI
AI
And
for
six
weeks
they
walked
that
long
haul
to
go
to
get
water
to
go
to
wash
their
hands
to
go
to
the
bathroom
and
for
six
weeks
it's
hard
to
learn
when
you
spend
most
of
your
time
walking
in
the
halls
this
year.
It
was
an
education
at
the
middle
school
because
I
ended
up
accidentally
coaching
cross
country
with
a
with
another
coach,
and
I
went
with
those
kids.
AI
AI
That's
quite
the
thing
to
hear
from
a
bunch
of
seventh
and
eighth
graders,
and
the
thing
is
everybody
said
well,
that's
just
because
it
was
king
creek.
They
said
the
same
thing
at
reynolds.
They
said
the
same
thing
when
we
went
to
anka
it
all
looked
like
you
know:
rich
schools
for
rich
kids
compared
to
asheville
middle.
So
we
need
these
schools
guys.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
frivolity.
AI
A
AJ
AJ
It
will
save
lots
of
money
in
the
long
run,
for
there
is
always
something
that
can
happen
which
may
not
materialize
as
expected.
Take,
for
instance,
the
inca
high
school,
with
anticipated
plans
for
green
energy.
Only
to
live
still
be
waiting
for
that
to
happen,
because
fls
energy
developer,
backed
out
due
to
financial
difficulties,.
AJ
What
I
am
saying
is
what
we
really
need
is
good
schools
within
our
me
and
excuse
me,
what
I
am
saying
is:
we
should
live
within
our
means
and
when
it
comes
time
to
pay
our
debts,
we
won't
have
to
raise
taxes
or
cut
in
to
important
programs
that
what
we
really
need,
our
teachers
to
teach
our
children
to
use
their
minds
to
do
things.
That
kids
now
only
rely
on
calculators
and
the
internet
to
solve
their
problems
in
the
news
recently,
a
student
did
not
know
how
to
address
an
envelope.
AK
I
started
at
liverson
street
elementary
elementary
school
and
I
also
went
to
south
french
broad
high
school
when
it
was
a
high
school.
I
was
there
when
it
turned
into
an
all
ninth
grade
school
and
I
graduated
from
asheville
high
school,
so
I've
been
through
all
of
the
buildings
and
remember
when
south
french
park
school
was
built
and
when
the
first
class
came
in
and
when
the
last
class
graduated,
so
it
has
been
there
a
long
time.
AK
AK
The
it
is
hard
for
the
students
to
learn
in
environments
that
are
not
conducive
to
learning.
I
think
that
if
either
of
you
had
children-
and
I
know
some
of
you
do
or
grandchildren
in
this
in
these
schools,
then
I
think
you
think
about
what
is
needed
for
the
students
that
are
there.
Now,
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
been
able
to
visit
the
schools
who
haven't
been
given
a
tour,
I
invite
you
personally
to
come
to
the
schools
to
see
for
yourself.
AK
AK
My
schedule
is
your
schedule
and
I
would
be
happy
to
conduct
those
tours
I'd
also
like
for
the
students
that
are
there
to
have
environments
that
are
conducive
to
learning
the
stem,
the
technology
whatever
is
needed,
because
I
want
them
not
to
feel
that
they
have
to
drop
out.
I
want
them
to
be
glad
that
they're
there
and
I
want
them
to
not
be
candidates
for
the
prison
system.
AK
In
being
proactive
and
providing
k-12
or
early
education
into
facilities
to
get
that
done,
so
they
won't
have
to
go
to
these
shiny
new
brand
new
correctional
facilities,
and
so
that
means
a
lot
to
me.
So
I
want
the
money
to
go
where
it
can
do
its
best
job
and
where
the
benefit
will
pay
off,
because
maybe
one
day
they'll
be
sitting
in
the
seats
where
you
are.
A
A
V
I
have
several
comments,
no
one.
I
don't
think
on
the
board
questions
whether
we
need
the
schools,
there's
no
question.
We
need
those
and
before
this
gets
admitted
in
the
press
as
a
city
county
thing,
when
I
started,
I
took
this
zone
as
a
project.
Shortly
after
I
was
sworn
in,
so
I've
been
working
on
trying
to
come
up
with
the
funding
for
these
schools
beforehand.
I
ask
questions
tonight
that
I
have
been
asked
and
it's
best
you
answer
those
questions,
you're
better
able
to
answer
them
than
I
am.
V
I
gave
you
the
opportunity
you
did
so.
I've
talked
to
our
legislators.
I
have
numerous
times
gone
to
our.
Even
our
county
school
board.
Members
talked
to
them.
Dr
green
can
attest.
I
have
bugged
her
numerous
times
about
this.
We
have
some
funding
constraints,
holly
and
I
and
some
of
the
other
members
we've
we've
talked
about
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
a
solution
for
this
that
doesn't
put
an
undue
burden
on
any
of
the
taxpayers,
whether
those
taxpayers
are
city
county.
V
V
V
V
You
know
my
point
was:
is
I'm
asking
those
questions,
so
you
had
the
opportunity
to
answer
them.
Asheville
I
live
in
the
county,
but
asheville
is
my
place
of
birth.
Asheville
has
a
lot
of
sentimental
and
significant
value
to
me
and
the
children
live
in
the
city
are
the
same
as
the
county
and
that's
the
point.
I
was
trying
to
make,
we
need
to
say:
are
we
giving
both
county
city
children
the
same
opportunities,
and
I
have
to
be
able
to
answer
to
the
county?
Are
we
on
par
and
this?
V
Q
T
T
T
I
had
so
much
confidence
in
in
the
inca
school
system
that
we
did
that
it
was
the
now
I
I
can
say
that
I
did
look
at
the
the
buildings,
but
it
was
the
reputation
of
the
teachers
within
the
community
that
actually
first
made
me
make
my
decision
and
it
was
a
building
second,
not
saying
that
they're
they're,
not
important
at
all.
My
daughter
teaches
at
kindergarten
assistant
teacher
at
johnston
elementary,
I
have
been
in
the
in
her
room
when
it
was
50
degrees
in
the
hall
and
90
degrees
in
the
room.
T
T
T
AL
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
being
here
tonight
I
want
to,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
the
commissioners
for
for
hearing
the
case.
That's
being
made
around
these
projects.
You
know,
I
must
admit,
I'm
biased.
I
have
two
two
kids
who
go
to
isaac
dixon,
who
love
it
for
all
the
reasons
that
people
articulated
tonight
and
who
will
in
all
likelihood
also
spend
time
at
asheville
middle
school
in
the
future.
AL
AL
I
think
that
you
know
we
we
we
dollars
are
are
scarce
and
we
have
to
invest
them
in
the
most
cost-effective
way
we
can
so
so
I
think
there's
going
to
be.
You
know
there
were
a
lot
of
great
answers
provided
tonight
and
I
think
that
that
you
know
we'll
continue
to
ask
questions
and
make
sure
we're
investing
our
funds
in
the
most
cost-effective
true
needs
that
we
have
to
have
great
facilities
for
for
all
the
kids
of
buncombe
county.
AL
AL
There
were
some
funding
formulas
put
in
place,
10
15
20
years
ago
to
help
fix
schools
in
buncombe
county,
and
they
have
done
a
lot
of
good.
We
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
great
new
schools
that
have
been
built
in
buncombe
county
over
the
last
decade
or
so
as
a
result
of
that,
but
they
also
in
some
ways
create
create
certain
challenges
and
that
it's
not
it's
not
a
funding
formula
that
simply
does
dedicate
the
funding
towards
the
greatest
needs
in
in
buncombe
county.
AL
It's
funded
based
on
a
different
formula,
and
I
think
I
mean
based
on
everything
I've
heard,
as
as
these
projects
have
been
discussed
over
the
last
many
months,
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
consensus
that
the
of
of
all
the
capital
needs
in
buncombe
county.
These
two
schools
are
are
at
the
top
of
the
list,
and
so
I
think
the
case
is
strong.
I
appreciate
the
county
commissioners
for
being
willing
to
not
just
say
well
the
you
know
the
funding
formulas
are
what
they
are.
So
it's
not
it's
not
our
con.
AL
A
A
Part
we
need
replacing-
and
I
know
that,
but
I
want
to
thank
everybody
again.
I
echo
what
all
my
all
of
the
commissioners
have
said.
This
is
very
important
to
us.
Education
is
a
third
of
our
budget,
a
little
history
just
real
quickly
in
the
early
80s.
The
schools
in
buncombe
county
in
particular,
were
so
bad
that
they
became
the
dirty
dozen
you've
heard
about
not
in
north
carolina,
but
in
the
united
states
of
america
we
were
the
12
in
the
12
worst.
A
Schools
in
the
usa
and
the
commission
at
the
time
did
not
think
it
was
important
to
do
things
about
it.
So
the
general
assembly
came
in
and
said
you
get
this
sales
tax,
but
we're
going
to
make
you
spend
a
half
cent
of
that
to
build
schools
up
we're
not
going
to
let
you
spend
it
any
way
you
want
to
you've
got
to
spend
it
on
school
construction
and
that's
how
we've
got
what
we
have
in
the
county
and
the
problem
with
city
was.
It
was
a
pro
rata
distribution
based
on
the
number
of
kids.
A
A
Never
the
numbers
just
are
never
going
to
work.
So
that's
one
of
the
challenges
we
have.
We
have.
We
want
to
treat
everybody
fairly.
We
want
to
do
the
right
things,
because
this
is
what
I
can
tell
you
every
commissioner
up
here
they
ran
so
they
could
take
care
of
kids
and
I'd
say
if
you
ask
them
what
the
most
important
thing
on
their
agenda
is
it's
taking
care
of
kids
that's
right
and
how
we
get
there.
A
Don't
know
it's
a
lot
of
money,
a
lot
of
money,
but
we're
gonna
figure
something
out
we're
gonna
do
the
best.
We
can
your
input's
very
helpful.
Thank
you
for
all
the
public
service,
the
elected
officials
and
the
appointed
officials
do
thank
you
for
parents.
Thank
you
for
teachers,
you
have
a
special
place
in
my
heart
and
I
think
everybody's
hard
up
here.
A
Q
A
A
AM
AM
AM
Our
total
budget
for
solid
waste
is
about
7.2
million
dollars
and
for
recycling
it's
about
450
thousand
dollars
the
transfer
station.
We
run
five
transfer
trucks
a
day.
We
run
usually
average
about
16
loads
and
we
run
up
to
20
21
loads
a
day
when
it
gets
busy.
They
carry
about
30
000
pounds
of
garbage
each.
AM
AM
We
started
doing
drilling
and
additional
piping
on
our
existing
landfill.
We
have
a
bioreactor
there
where
we
pump
leachate
into
the
landfill
and
then
use
the
same
system
to
to
pull
the
gas
out,
and
we
we
bought
a
1.4
megawatt
generator
through
the
stimulus,
money
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
in
a
minute.
AM
But
it
allowed
us
at
that
time
to
start
recirculating
the
leachate
and
also
allowed
us
to
pull
gas
off
and
make
electricity
we
pumped
in
2.9
million
gallons
of
leachate
last
year
by
doing
that,
recirculating
it
that
that
allowed
us
to
have
decomposition
and
also
pull
off
more
gas.
It
also
saved
us
580
tanker
trips,
the
msd,
because
we
have
a
million
gallon
holding
pond
there
when
that
starts
getting
full.
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
That
includes
tires
yard
waste,
white
goods,
cardboard
mixed
paper,
plastic,
aluminum
cans,
electronics
and
used
motor
oil.
We
have
the
only
osha
approved
weekly
collection
facility
in
north
carolina
as
far
as
collection
of
household
hazardous
waste,
and
we
also
have
a
cardboard
ordinance
that
bans
commercial
cardboard
from
coming
in
the
landfill.
So
that's
that's
all
been
deferred
from
coming
in
just
go
down
and
we're
ranked
ninth
in
the
state
as
far
as
recycling.
AM
That's
through
2011
2012
figures
have
not
come
out
yet
that
also
includes
what
is
recycled
in
the
city
of
asheville
and
all
the
other
municipalities,
including
those
kind
of
go
down
and
break
down
the
figures.
A
little
bit
waste
pro
collects
about
9
million
pounds
of
recyclables
a
year
in
their
curbside
re
recycling
program.
We
collect
about
1.7
million
pounds
at
the
transfer
station
in
the
landfill
we
collect,
5
million
pounds
of
of
tires
white
goods
is
292,
000
pounds,
household
hazardous
waste
and
that's
including
pesticides
and
chemicals
is
208
000.
AM
AM
AM
AM
They
they
range
anywhere
from
a
few
bags
of
trash
that
have
been
thrown
out
beside
the
road
to
things
that
have
been
used
for
a
dump
for
several
months.
Usually
it's
on
a
very
seldom
traveled
road,
usually
on
a
mountainside
someplace
and
unfortunately,
it
usually
includes
anything
from
household
appliances
to
solid
waste
car
parts.
I've
seen
parts
of
deers-
I
mean
you
name
it
once
it
starts.
It
just
continues
on
and
then
it's
mattresses
and
everything
else.
AM
AM
AM
Have
somebody
clean
it
up,
but
now
what
we
do
is
that,
under
the
threat
with
the
cooperation
of
the
county
attorney,
we
go
in
set
a
roll-off
or
a
dumpster
off,
and
then
we
give
the
homeowner
x
time
to
clean
it
up,
and
we
found
that
they've
got
an
investment
in
it.
I
mean
they.
They.
It
won
a
case
where,
okay,
the
county
came
out,
sat
down
a
dumpster.
Somebody
came
along
and
picked
up.
AM
Our
mess
county
came
along
and
furnished
us
a
way
to
get
rid
of
the
the
garbage
that's
in
the
lot,
but
we
invested
our
time
and
energy
and
a
lot
of
times
we
found
that
people
won't.
Do
it
again
if
they'll
that's
enough
to
say,
okay,
you
know,
let's
keep
the
yard
straight,
where
we
don't
have
to
get
the
county
involved,
so
that
program
has
really
worked
good.
Also,
we
work
with
land
to
sky
the
educational
program
we
put
on
a
lot
of
of
programs
at
the
landfill
in
the
spring.
AM
A
lot
of
schools
come
in
like
the
tour.
It's
a
great
facility
to
come
out
and
spend
the
morning
and
just
learn
about
what
we
do
with
solid
waste
here
in
buncombe.
County
last
program
is
our
mobile
home
manufactured
house
removal
program.
Since
its
inception
in
2004
we've
removed
509
homes.
This
has
been
very
successful.
What
we
do
is
we
contract
this
out.
Usually
we
start
out
with
a
minimum
of
eight,
so
we
can
get
a
good
price.
AM
AM
Heating
switch
thermostat
will
take
out,
fluorescent
light,
bulbs
will
take
out
and
those
are
those
are
handled
separately.
So
it's
been
a
good
program
to
clean
up
the
county.
If
anybody
has
any
interest
and
sees
this
program
that
they'll
contact
either
solid
waste
or
planning
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
put
on
the
list
to
get
rid
of
an
abandoned
mobile
home.
B
AM
Yeah
and
one
thing
that
really
hurts
us
is
that
you
know
half
of
our
residents
in
the
county:
don't
have
curbside
collections,
so
you
know
they've
either
got
to
take
it
someplace
or
they
just
put
it
in
the
waste
stream.
I
think
that
we'll
see
our
numbers
improved
simply
because
I
think
the
city
going
to
the
to
the
rollout
car
for
recycling
has
increased
their
their
recycling
a
bunch.
I
think
that
we
will
get
credit
for
for
those
efforts
in
the
city
right.
AM
Really
you
know
the
the
problem
that
we
face
is
that
I
mean
you:
can
you
can
do
drop-off
centers,
but
you've
got
to
have
a
man,
because
unfortunately,
it's
people
come
by
and
drop
off.
You
know
whatever
they
can,
especially
after
hours
or
on
the
weekend,
but
the
the
big
problem
that
we
face
is
that
we've
we
only
have
so
much
money
and
as
far
as
solid
waste,
it's
an
enterprise
fund
and
we
borrow
money-
we'll
be
borrowing
money
here
in
the
next
couple
years
to
do
the
next
cell.
AM
But
we
have
a
debt
ratio
that
we
have
to
keep
those
bond
buyers
happy
with
right.
The
other
thing
that
we
face
is
that
you
can't
go
up
on
tipping
fees
because
we've
got
to
stay
competitive.
We've
got
a
transfer
station
here
that
waste
management
has,
and
so,
if
we,
you
know,
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
stay
competitive,
then
we
lose
more
solid
waste
and
it's
a
vicious
cycle.
So
you
know
I
mean
you
can
get
into
just
the
recycling
program,
but
some
way
you
gotta,
you
get
you
gotta.
AA
AM
AM
AB
AM
Q
A
A
Okay,
one
thing
I'd
like
to
see
is,
I
think,
we're
doing
great,
but
I
I'd
also
like
to
see
best
practices
of
across
the
country
of
recycling.
It
may
be
when
the
franchise
comes
up.
We
need
to
look
at
that.
I
know
we
talked
at
one
point
about
mandatory
recycling,
but
I'd
love
to
see
what
other
communities
are
doing,
particularly
the
high
performers
that
are
ahead
of
us.
A
So
if
we
could,
if
you
could,
I
think,
maybe
not
another
presentation
but
a
memo,
or
this
might
even
be
something
we
could
punt
to.
We
had
an
enviro
environmental
advisory
board
at
one
point
to
really
flesh
out
what
what
other,
not
just
in
north
carolina
but
across
the
country,
because
I
know
that,
as
as
the
new
commissioners
go
to
the
conventions,
this
is
always
a
big
topic.
I
mean
just
about
every
time,
there's
seminars
about
best
practices
and
I'd
kind
of
like
to
and
I'm
sure
in
planting
circles.
It's
a
big
thing
again.
A
AM
A
Is
our
franchise
up
again?
Oh,
it's
seven
and
a
half
years.
It's
a
pretty
good
while
yeah
okay!
Well,
if
you
could
maybe
just
do
a
memo
to
us
about
any
best
practices
that
might
we
might
want
to
consider.
I
I
think
some
of
it
were
constrained
by
cost,
but
I'd
like
to
know
what
other
people
are
doing.
Do
you.
AM
AM
G
AN
I've
seen
more
change
this
year
than
I
have
in
the
past
five
years,
in
that
a
child
of
adversity's
been
born,
you've
taken
the
you've
you've
taken,
the
forward-thinking
environmentalist
and
you've
taken
the
the
budget
manager
and
they've
hit
heads
so
many
times
that
that
we've
come
up
with
something
and
wow
and
what
that
is
that's
the
reason
I
want
to
explain
the
term
sustainability
is.
Where
is
what
we're?
Using
now?
AN
We
used
to
say:
go
green
zero
emissions,
all
these
things,
but
the
the
the
the
child
that
is
sustainability,
the
capacity
or
the
ability
to
endure,
and
that
term
has
been
around
for
a
while,
but
the
meaning
that
I'm
finding
now
on
the
internet.
More
and
more
is
the
county
as
a
whole.
That
is
the
environment.
That's
the
trees,
the
lakes,
the
everything,
but
it's
also
the
the
road
infrastructures.
It's
the
industrial
base,
it's
the
health
of
the
county
government
fiscally.
That
is
this
entire
encompass
of
sustainability.
Now
it's
not
just
green.
AN
It's
it's
come
together
to
mean
we've
got
to
be
a
fiscally
strong,
environmentally
sound
county.
If
we
want
to
survive
into
the
next
generation
carbon
footprint,
it's
an
imaginary
number
anymore
that
everyone
chases
and
nobody
catches
their
college.
Kids,
love
to
study
carbon
emissions
and
at
any
time
you
can
look
on
the
internet
and
find
100
different
calculators.
AN
That'll
make
your
carbon
footprint
say
whatever
you
want
it
to
say
so,
we've
started,
you
know
we
we
track
btus,
it's
something
that
you
can
come
to
me
and
I
can
show
you
a
piece
of
paper
and
say
this
is
exactly
where
we're
at
carbon
footprint.
We
can
take.
Our
numbers,
choose
a
different
calculator
and
come
up
with
a
different
number
every
day,
as
far
as
as
what
it
is,
and
the
last
term
is
the
emissions.
AN
AN
AN
So
since
1997
we
have
done
709
000
square
feet
of
building
space
has
had
an
hvac
energy
upgrade,
and
these
are
not
just
you
know.
Just
minor
things.
Hvac
has
kept
pace
with
the
energy
community,
so
these
are
complicated
computer
driven
systems
that
are
more
likely
to
be
repaired
using
a
laptop
instead
of
a
toolbox.
They
come
with
building
automation
systems.
I've
been
sitting
here
during
this
meeting
with
my
ipad.
B
AN
So
you
know
that's
the
kind
of
technology
that
we
buy
today
for
all
of
our
buildings,
and
most
of
those
upgrades
are
a
lot
newer
than
97..
I
just
went
back
to
the
first
one
that
we
started
with,
but
that's
almost
three-fourths
of
our
total
inventory
of
space
has
that
technology
window
replacements,
467
thousand
square
feet.
Almost
one-third
of
our
total
inventory
has
had
a
window
upgrade
now.
These
are
the
the
you
know.
The
new
most
of
this
happens
in
the
last
three
to
five
years.
AN
AN
That's
on
460
000
square
feet.
That's
that's
building
space,
but
that's
38,
000
square
feet
of
glass.
So
if
you
cleared
out
the
entire
first
floor
of
35,
woodfin
laid
it
down
flat,
you
couldn't
get
it
on
there.
If
you
took
all
the
all
the
walls
out,
everything
in
your
way,
you
couldn't
lay
all
that
glass
down
that
we've
changed
in
the
last
three
or
four
years.
AN
AN
So
it's
it's
really
showing
up
and
now
roof
replacements,
and
this
is
my
favorite,
because
this
is
the
least
seen,
but
it
does
probably
as
much
good
as
any
of
them.
A
roof
replacement
is
just
about
the
same
as
changing
a
window
from
single
pane
to
thermal
paint
keeps
out
the
rain,
the
sun,
the
wind,
but
it
also
provides
that
thermal
barrier
that
was
missing
before
you
heard
single
pane
windows
spoken
of
tonight
same
way
with
an
old
roof
system.
AN
When
we
put
a
new
roof
in,
we
get
a
reflective
surface
with
a
heavy
insulation
barrier
under
it,
and
it's
a
great
energy
saver.
So,
as
you
can
see,
most
of
our
square
footage
has
had
an
energy
upgrade
out
of
out
of
1.5
million.
Most
of
our
your
major
energy
saving
areas
have
had
almost
half
or
three
quarters
of
that
square.
Footage,
upgraded.
AN
AN
135
000
btus
per
square
foot
is
the
average
on
north
carolina
state-owned
properties
in
buncombe
county
we're
at
64,
848
btus
per
square
foot,
we're
up
0.001,
and
that's
probably,
you
know,
margin
of
era
right
there,
we're
29.5
below
the
national
average
and
the
empire
state
building
is
just
trivia:
88
000,
88,
000
btus
per
square
foot.
They
do
have
2.1
million
square
feet
of
rentable
space
in
the
empire
state
building.
AN
So
I
was
really
amazed
that
they
had
that
good
of
a
btu
number
on
that
old
of
a
building,
and
I'm
talking
fast
because
we've
been
here
a
long
time
so
y'all
tell
me
to
slow
down.
If
you
want
me
to
this
is
a
scope.
This
slide
just
shows
what's
included
in
this
report.
This
is
what
we
use
to
get
our
numbers.
AN
We'll
spend
just
a
little
more
the
same
information,
but
a
little
more
time.
On
this
slide,
you
can
see
that
our
carbon
emission
trend
is
up
slightly.
It's
a
about
400
metric
tons
and
I'm
learning
a
lot
as
we
do
these
each
year.
This
can
be
from
seasonal
changes
and
I
think
that's
what
this
is.
If
you
have
a
warm
a
warm
summer
and
our
electricity
use
outpaces
our
natural
gas
use
in
the
winter
warm
summer
warm
winter,
we
use
a
lot
of
electricity.
Electricity
is
produced
by
burning
coal,
so
our
eco2
level's
higher.
AN
B
AN
This
shows
our
total
energy
consumption
and
it
just
shows
a
fluctuation.
You
know
about
a
little
over
three
billion
btus
and
there
again
that
can
be
seasonal
uses.
There
is
a
little
construction
in
there
there's
a
little
rental
properties
up
and
down
in
there,
where
we've
added
space
and
shed
space.
AN
And
all
this
slide
is,
is
it
shows
our
square
footage
for
buncombe
county,
but
that's
the
factor
that
we
use
when
we
figure
all
this.
It
shows
you
how
our
we
sell.
We
buy,
we
build,
we
get
out
of
rental
properties,
so
the
line
you
know
pretty
much
stays
flat
now
next
year,
when
we
add
the
quartz
building
you're
going
to
see
127
000
square
foot
jump
on
that
line.
AN
And
start
in
this
part
of
the
presentation
we're
going
to
break
it
apart,
we've
been
looking
at
the
county
government
as
a
whole,
so
now
we're
going
to
look
at
it
in
separate
in
buildings,
over
1.5
million
square
feet
currently
controlled
by
buncombe
county
for
98.1
billion
btus
of
energy
consumed
in
2012.,
the
county
carbon
footprint's
four
buildings
is
11
184
metric
tons
of
eco
metric
tons
of
eco2,
that's
17.7
kilograms
per
square
foot,
that's
23
percent
below
the
national
average.
When
talking
about
buildings
alone,
total
energy
cost
for
2012
was
1.47
million
dollars.
AN
AN
With
this
slide,
it's
going
to
become
more
expensive
to
make
this
line
drop
is
what
it
is,
because
you
know
the
our
practices.
Are.
There
they've
been
there
so
long
that
we
flatlined
our
standard
practice
has
caused
us
to
flatline.
You
know
our
good
working
practice
so
to
make
it
drop
is
when
we
have
to
start
looking
for
more
dollars.
AN
We
were
looking
good,
but
we
figured
out.
We
were
counting
meters
that
didn't
even
have
square
foot
associated
with
them,
so
it
was
making
us
look
good,
so
we
went
back
just
so.
I
could
give
you
a
true
number
and
we
pulled
out
everything:
that's
not
associated
with
a
conditioned
space
and
it
made
our
energy
numbers.
It
made
our
energy
cost
per
square
foot
jump
a
little
bit
in
2011.
AN
AN
Building
emissions:
this
is
our
eco2
and
you
can
see
we're
in
a
steady
drop.
We
dropped
another
400
metric
tons
this
year.
That's
driven
there
again
by
what
type
fuel
we
use
the
most.
If
we
use
more
diesel
next
year
than
gasoline,
it's
gonna.
You
know
that
that
drives
your
numbers,
more
natural
gas
than
electricity,
it's
just
whatever
we
use
the
most
of.
AN
AN
We've
found
a
lot
of
leaks
that
we've
had
in
the
past.
Those
the
pools
have
a
high
evaporation
rate,
real
high
evaporation
rate,
those
outdoor
pools
and
the
pool
itself
we're
resurfacing
inside
trying
to
do
one
a
year
now
and
that's
taking
care
of
a
lot
of
leaks.
We've
had
in
the
past.
We've
done
a
lot
with
sensor.
AN
Sensor,
operated
plumbing
fixtures,
urinals
commodes
such
as
that,
but
plumbing,
unlike
hvac,
has
lagged
way
behind
in
technology.
I
mean
there's,
I
guess,
there's
only
so
much
you
can
do
with
a
toilet
to
make
it
energy
efficient.
But
you
know
there's
just
not
that
much
there
we've
we
changed.
A
lot
of
valves
went
from
three
and
a
half
gallon
to
one
and
a
half
gallon
flush
valves,
sensor,
flush,
faucets,
but
there's
still
room
to
grow.
There.
AN
AN
AN
Fleet
we
have
fleet
size,
we've
got
more
accurate
tracking
again,
so
the
fluctuation
in
fleet
numbers
we
have
figured
out
why
that
is,
it
is
due
to
surplus
vehicles.
At
the
time
the
data
was
retrieved
from
the
system.
Were
there
vehicles
in
there
that
weren't
sold
yet
or
were
there
new
vehicles
that
weren't
entered
yet
this
year
we
feel
we
have
an
accurate
number
on
fleet
397
vehicles
is
our
active
on
the
road
fleet.
AN
Total
fleet
mileage
is
up
this
year.
It's
160
000
different
from
last
year.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
room
here
for
more
accurate
reporting.
Fleet
mileage
is
entered
mostly
by
the
people
at
the
pump
and
if
you're
there
and
it's
12
degrees
outside
and
sit,
go
trying
to
see
the
numbers
and
punch
them
you
know,
does
it
go
in
184
or
814?
AN
AC
AN
AN
AN
We
use
36,
000,
gallons
gge
gas,
gallon
equivalent
of
cng
and
56
330
gallons
of
propane.
Those
are
primarily
your
mobility
vehicles
and
your
sheriff's
patrol
cars.
There
is
work
to
get
five
more
cars
in
the
sheriff's
department
on
propane.
The
officers
are
really
pleased
with
this.
They,
like
the
propane
fuel.
AN
Fleet
fuel
mileage,
we
figured
out
why
we
had
terrible
mileage.
We
were
including
the
mileage
of
the
propane
vehicles
in
with
the
gasoline
and
diesel,
so
obviously
they
were
not
affecting
they.
I
talked
about
this
last
year.
Propane
and
gasoline
is
the
difference
between
trying
to
burn
a
damp
piece
of
paper
and
a
dry
piece
of
paper.
Gasoline's
got
a
whole
lot
more
btus
in
it.
It's
it'll
it'll
you
get
better
gas
mileage
on
it
propane.
AN
AN
This
is
your
off-road
emissions.
This
this
is
primarily
john's
people
down
to
landfill
and
it's
grounds
maintenance,
my
guys
they
account
for
899
metric
tons
of
eco2
another
bit
of
trivia.
We
have
34
backups
stationary
backup
generators
at
the
county
I
take
care
of,
and
I
did
not.
I
would
have
guessed
20
something
until
we
got
to
getting
them
all
counted.
AN
Okay,
this
slide
is
just
another
indication
of
where
we
are
county
wide.
We've
we've
been
through
buildings,
fleet
and
water
under
new
facilities.
The
courthouse
had
an
existing
220
000
square
feet
with
an
lsa
addition
of
30
000
square
feet,
we're
at
we're
going
to
add
a
quartz
building
at
127
000.,
so
the
new
quartz
complex
is
going
to
be
377
000
square
feet.
AN
That's
a
that's
a
large,
that's
a
large
building,
so
that's
pretty
much
new
facility
that
we've
been
through
now
the
newly
renovated
stuff
I've
been
doing
in
my
office,
40
cox,
avenue,
35
woodfin
and
the
miscellaneous
renovations
I'll
total
195
000
square
feet.
So
in
the
past
three
years
out
of
a
1.5
million,
the
county
has
had
573
000
square
feet
of
that
building
space
over
one-third
of
it
has
been
gone
through
and
received
an
energy
upgrade
or
it's
or
it's
a
new
facility
altogether.
AN
The
new
facilities,
as
we
heard
earlier,
the
new
energy
codes
require
you
to
build
them.
It
would
be
a
leed
certification
standard,
but
but
it's
just
it's
the
thing
we
do
now,
but
this
is
stuff
that
we've
been
doing
for
years.
That
the
new
energy
code
has
now
come
up
and
said:
okay,
you
need
to
start
doing
this.
AN
AN
They
didn't
come
out
of
tax
dollars
and
what
I
want
you
know
what
we
intend
to
do
is
as
the
people
leave,
if
they
want
to
take
a
pack
home
with
them
to
replace
incandescent
lamps
and
we'll
we'll
leave
four
or
five
boxes
of
them
up
here
for
y'all
to
do
that
with,
but
that's
how
we
fund
these
things
the
projects
ahead
and
we
look
back
at
the
flatline
on
the
pco2
funding
efficiency
ahead
is
going
to
be
more
creative.
It's
going
to
require
more
thought.
AN
AN
The
reason
we
didn't
include
it
at
the
buckler
report
is
because,
from
what
we
read
these,
these
are
not
reliable
enough
numbers
to
put
in
a
report.
From
the
other
reports
we
had.
One
person
who
entered
their
round
trip
was
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
miles
per
day.
That's
what
they
traveled
for
the
county.
There.
AC
AN
AN
AL
I
have
a
couple
of
comments.
Chairman
gant,
I
wanna,
I
wanna
thank
the
staff
for
for
giving
this
report.
It
sounds
like
some
of
the
folks
who've
been
on
here
for
a
while.
I've
probably
heard
some
of
this
before
so
thanks
for,
but
thank
you
for
those
of
us
who
are
who
are
new
to
serving
on
the
commission.
It's
really,
you
know
it's
very
impressive.
AL
Talk
with
me
some
about
the
approaches
the
county's
been
taking
to
this,
and
it's
very
impressive,
I
mean
it's
clear
that
buncombe
county
is,
is
really
in
a
you
know,
in
a
leadership
position
in
terms
of
management
of
its
fleets
and
its
facilities
and
and
the
taxpayers
and
the
environment
are
better
off
the
cost
of
it.
So
so
this
was
great.
You
know,
I
guess
in
terms
of
kind
of
thinking,
about
about
moving
ahead.
AL
You
know
in
in
in
the
coming
weeks
or
months,
I'd
like
to
to
kind
of
think
about
from
a
policy
standpoint,
how
we,
as
a
county
commission,
can
kind
of
make
sure
that
the
the
progress
we've
been
making
in
recent
years
that
we
can
continue
to
make
that
into
the
future
and
how
we
can
give
the
resources.
We
need
to
to
continue
that
and
and
and
also
accelerate
it,
because
I
think
we,
you
know
these
issues
around
around
energy
efficiency
and
energy
leadership.
AL
A
A
A
That's
the
next
step.
Yes,
sir,
mr
creighton,
we
have
an
add-on
and
let's
go
in
there.
Let
me
read
what
this
is.
This
is
a
resolution
authorizing
the
execution
of
the
three-party
right-of-way
encroachment
agreement
between
the
ncdot,
buncombe,
county
and
city
of
asheville
and
john
won't.
You
explain
we're
doing
this
by
consent.
All
the
commissioners
have
agreed
to
put
this
on
so
tell
us
what
this
is
and
what
we
need
to
do
here.
AM
Currently,
it
looks
like
that.
We're
going
to
get
141
households
after
I
had
a
meeting
with
the
city
on
friday,
but
the
purpose
of
it
was
to
go
ahead
and
get
a
water,
some
water
lines
to
the
neighborhoods
out
there
that
don't
have
public
water
and,
right
now
like
say
the
city
of
asheville
water
department,
is
reviewing
the
plans
that
mcgill
has
put
together.
AM
Part
of
that
process
is
to
go
ahead
and
get
a
d.o.t
encroachment
according
to
the
city.
That
process
can
take
a
while
and
that's
why
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
ask
the
board
if
we
could
go
ahead
and
have
the
cha
authorize
the
chairman
to
sign
the
agreement
so
that
we
can
get
it
over
the
d.o.t
and
get
that
process
started.
Once
the
water
lines
are
reviewed
by
the
city
that
they
go
to
the
state
for
approval,
and
at
that
point
then
we'll
be
ready
to
put
the
system
out
to
bid.
A
So
basically,
this
is
falling
through
our
commitment
to
provide
water
for
the
people
in
the
immediate
area
around
cts
that
was
made.
I
think,
mr
jones
and
I
were
probably
on
that
board.
I'm
not
sure
the
other
ones
were
here
at
that
point,
but
this
has
fallen
through
and
this
is
the
next
step
to
get
that
to
happen.
That's
that's
correct.
Okay,.
A
V
Yes,
just
for
record
we're
we're
putting
this
on
the
night
in
order
to
expedite
this,
so
that
we
can
get
this
what
these
water
lines
in
place
for
these
people,
I
mean.
That's,
that's
why
we
we've
added
this
on.
Is
that
correct,
that's
correct,
so
we
don't
want
to
slow
the
process
down
and
get
them
the
water
as
quickly
as
possible.
That's
correct!
Okay!
Thank
you.
A
A
AD
A
B
A
A
AL
R
C
A
A
Regular
meeting
of
the
commission
will
be
march
19,
beginning
at
4
30
p.m.
In
the
commission
chambers
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
commission
meetings
can
be
seen
on
bctv
charter
cable,
channel
2,
att,
u-verse
channel
99
live
on
buncombecounty.org
during
the
meetings
or
online
anytime
at
buncombecounty.org,
mr
frew.
We
have
a
closed
session
tonight.