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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Pre-Meeting (April 21, 2020)
Description
Pre-Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' for April 21, 2020. Topics of discussion included and update to the County's Strategic Plan's rollout, the Family First Coronavirus Response Act/Paid Family Leave for County employees, and the FY21 Budget first pass discussion continuation.
A
The
flag
is
back
yay,
okay,
so
we
have
several
staff
updates
we're
going
to
get
an
update
on
the
strategic
plan.
The
paid
family
leave
policy
during
the
Kevin
period
and
then
the
main
the
main
thing
we're
gonna
spend
most
our
time
on
is
further
discussion
about
the
FY
21
budget.
Are
there
any
other
items
that
people
would
like
to
cover
during
this
pre
meeting
today?
A
B
I'm
here
presenting
on
behalf
of
staff,
they've,
been
working
with
the
board
as
you've
moved
through
the
process
of
strategic
planning.
Eric
Hardy
is
also
with
me
a
director
of
performance
management,
as
his
team
is
assisting
with
implementation
of
the
plan
in
the
way
of
a
recap
as
a
reminder
to
the
members
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
anyone
else
that
might
be
following
along
from
home.
The
approach
that
Buncombe
County
used
for
the
strategic
plan
was
to
bring
together
voices.
B
Also
in
the
way
of
recap.
As
you
remember,
we
started
this
process
last
July
with
a
kickoff
workshop,
facilitated
by
Becca
Ryan
with
foresight,
and
we
also
had
facilitation
support
throughout
the
process
from
Donna
Warner
who's
with
UNC
Chapel
Hill
held
a
series
of
workshops
in
the
fall
with
members
of
the
board
of
Commission
working
to
review
trends
and
set
priorities
to
identify
focus
areas.
Both
community
focus
areas,
as
well
as
foundational
focus
areas
and
begin
to
articulate
goals
within
those
focus
areas.
B
In
November
we
in
October
in
November,
we
held
a
series
of
public
input
sessions
across
those
13
sessions
which
were
held
at
various
locations
across
Buncombe
County.
In
different
times
of
the
day.
Days
of
the
week,
we
had
271
participants
from
the
community
who
came
and
weighed
in.
We
also
held
a
series
of
employee
workshops
again
held
at
diverse
places
throughout
the
county,
to
maximize
participation
from
various
employees
across
departments
at
different
kinds
of
position,
levels
during
different
kinds
of
jobs,
and
we
had
182
employees
attend
those
workshops.
B
So
here
we
are
in
the
spring.
The
plan
was
adjusted
in
your
December
workshop,
incorporating
feedback
that
came
from
those
public
input
sessions
and
the
plan
writing
has
been
underway.
We
had
originally
had
it
on
your
docket
to
take
up
for
consideration
for
adapting
in
March,
but
March
threw
us
a
curveball,
and
so
currently
we're
looking
at
this
would
be
an
agenda
item
for
your
next
meeting,
which
is
May
5th.
You
receive
the
plan
by
email
today
and
here's
a
snapshot
of
what's
included
the
document
kicks
off
with
vision
and
mission
and
values.
B
B
B
We've
included
some
example
tier
2
goals,
to
give
a
sense
of
what
that
might
look
like.
So,
for
example,
working
on
the
category,
the
gold
articulated
in
the
strategic
plan
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
might
take
shape
as
a
tier
2
goal
as
increased
the
number
of
alternative
fuel
vehicles
in
the
county
fleet
by
5
percent
by
2025.
That's
a
sample,
or
example,
of
a
tier
2
goal.
B
That
process
has
not
has
not
been
completed
yet
and
you'll
see,
there's
a
department
that
would
own
each
of
the
goals
so
that
we
can
have
accountability
built
in
so
I'm.
Here
briefly
in
front
of
you
today,
just
to
let
you
know
that
you've
been
emailed
the
plan,
we
will
publish
the
draft
plan
on
your
website
as
part
of
the
packet
for
your
next
meeting.
That
typically
goes
up
a
week
in
advance,
so
on
April
29th.
B
The
agenda
will
go
up
for
the
May
5th
meeting
and
the
plan
will
be
posted
as
part
of
your
packet
and
you'll
see
on
the
May
5th
agenda,
an
item
taking
up
for
consideration
adopting
the
plan
should
that
be
adopted.
It
will
take
effect,
July
1
and
stay
in
place
until
2025
staff
will
continue
with
and
fully
implement
the
business
planning
process
that
I
mentioned,
as
well
as
project
implementation,
reporting,
monitoring
and
evaluation.
So
your
task
between
now
and
May
5th
is
to
review
the
plan
is
you've
received
it.
B
You
will,
of
course
be
in
communication
with
your
county
manager.
Each
of
you
will
hear
from
Rebecca
Ryan.
The
facilitator.
That's
been
in
touch
with
you
throughout
the
process
and
if
you
have
feedback
or
directives
for
staff
in
helping
you
get
to
a
plan
that
you're
ready
to
adopt,
we
will
receive
that
from
you.
Are
there
any
questions
for
today.
A
C
B
A
B
C
B
A
D
Only
had
one
thought
you
know
it
just
it
hit
me
when
I
saw
two
of
our
goals
that
were
am
a
resident
well-being
and
vibrant
economy,
and
both
of
those
have
been
dramatically
affected
and
I'm,
not
saying
we
change
anything
but
I'm
wondering
you
know
when
we
look
at
our
strategic
plan
planning.
How
does
what
we're
in
the
middle
of
now?
D
You
know
what
adjustments,
if
any,
we
should
think
about
as
we
look
at
the
next
several
years
as
we
as
we
learn
from
what
we're
going
through,
and
it's
probably
a
little
early
to
do
that.
So
a
strategic
plan
to
some
extent,
is
a
living
document,
so
it
might
be.
It
might
be
worthwhile
as
we
look
at
our
goals
to
think
about
that
in
the
next
in
the
next
few
months
or
year,.
A
C
A
Look
a
lot
different
in
a
couple
of
months
than
it
does
today,
and
this
is
this
is
a
long-term
kind
of
vision,
so
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to.
You
know,
stop
working
towards
that,
but
this
is
more
than
that.
You
know
this
is
more
than
a
normal
kind
of
curveballs
that
we
see
thrown
at
us,
so
I
mean
part
of
it.
I
guess,
just
you
know
is,
is
just
sort
of
you
know.
What
does
the
near-term
Cova
challenge
mean
to
us
in
terms
of
thinking
about
the
longer-term
goals?
A
I
mean
I,
just
kind
of
keep
thinking
about
what
are
the
you
know.
What
are
the
other
kind
of
things
that
we
might
need
to
do
as
a
County
Commission
that
we
would
not
normally
have
to
do,
but
for
this
unique
situation,
additional
community
needs
that
will
be
there
that
we
wouldn't
have
known
about
when
we
were
going
through
this
this
process.
A
D
E
You
raising
that
and
I
mean
I
think
it
seems
fairly
safe
to
say
that
at
least
the
next
year
will
feature
Cove
in
19
as
an
issue
at
some
level
and
some
of
the
predictions
around
when
a
vaccine
may
be
available,
unfortunately
extend
beyond
a
year
so
I
as
we're
talking
this
through.
It
might
be
interesting
to
think
about
what
the
like
trying
to
articulate
more.
What
that
runaway
might
look
like
so.
D
D
However,
when
you're
since
their
resident
well-being
in
vibrant
economy,
half
of
our
strategic
plan,
major
goals
has
been
dramatically
impacted
and
we
can
actually,
as
we
go
into
goal-setting-
and
you
know
whether
we're
you
know
six
months
or
six
weeks
or
you
know
six
years
into
the
effect
of
a
Ovid.
You
know
the
lead
measures
and
like
measures
that
we
could
watch
for
now
may
move
over
into
something
similar
to
what
we're
going
through.
So
if
this
happens,
then
we
do
this.
C
A
B
A
A
F
So
I'm
here
today
to
discuss
the
family
first
coronavirus
response
act
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
just
provide
you
all
an
overview
of
the
act
and
how
that
will
the
act
is
going
to
affect
us
here
at
Buncombe
County.
So
you
should
have
received
a
email
that
is
a
memo
for
me
and
you'll
have
a
second
one
that
I
just
gave
to
Lamar
on
the
paid
family
leave
Act.
F
Well,
on
March
18th,
the
federal
government
president
Trump
signed
into
law
the
family
first
coronavirus
response,
act
and
you'll
see
it's
FF
CRA.
It's
spoken
to
and
the
public
by
that
name.
But
what
that
does
is
is
these.
This
act
has
two
components
to
it,
and
the
very
first
component
is
the
emergency
paid,
sick,
ass
and
what
that
act
is
actually
about.
F
Is
it
provides
protection
for
or
two
weeks
of
leave
if
I
become
sick
or
you
become
sick
or
you
are
quarantined
so
that
that,
right
now,
that
law
has
us
paying
our
employees
a
hundred
percent
of
their
pay
to
take
basically
care
for
ourselves.
The
second
piece
of
that
of
the
emergency
paid
sick
leave
is
if
I
want
to
stay
home
and
care
for
my
dependent
child
or
my
husband
or
spouse
or
significant
other.
F
It's
the
law
states
that
we
only
have
to
pay
the
employee,
2/3
and
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
in
a
couple
seconds
about
a
recommendation.
I'll
be
coming
back
on
May
5th
to
talk
about,
though
the
second
part
of
it
is
the
emergency
paid,
Family,
Medical
Leave,
and
what
that
has
done
has
taken
the
paid
family
leave
that
I
had
talked
about
a
little
bit
before
and
what
it
has
done
is
extended
that
that
leave
to
10
weeks
only
to
care
for
your
child
or
children
if
their
school
or
the
childcare
center
has
closed.
F
The
intricacies
on
that
piece
is
the
first
two
weeks
of
the
the
care
of
the
child,
or
you
know
the
providing
in
the
home
school,
that's
unpaid
and
then
the
next
ten
weeks
is
is
paid.
But
again
that's
only
the
law
is
only
saying
we
have
to
pay
them
at
two-thirds
of
their
salary
where
the
uniqueness
part
of
this
law
isn't
it's
kind
of
cumbersome.
F
A
little
bit
is
that
the
the
regulation
provides
80
hours
of
paid
time
off,
that
I
can
use
either
to
care
for
myself
care
for
my
dependent
at
two-thirds
of
salary
or
I
can
use
those
80
hours
towards
my
child
care
waiting
period.
Okay,
so
it's
there's
been
a
lot
of
confusion
on
how
you
actually
do
that.
But
it's
it's
80
hours
you
get
and
you
can
use
it
for
one
of
those
three
functions
now
with
this
regulation.
F
If
we
were
to
adopt
it
just
as
is
and
it
would
affect-
or
it
would
provide
the
the
eligibility
and
this
benefit
for
every
employee,
so
that
would
mean
any
employee
that
has
a
school-aged
child
could
leave
employment
for
twelve
weeks.
Ten
of
it
would
be
paid,
and
that
would
really
put
us
in
a
pickle,
so
the
Department
of
Labor
has
given
us
some
exclusions
that
we
could
possibly
use,
and
they
say
you
may
use
now.
Those
exclusions
are
your
emergency
responders
and
your
healthcare
workers,
and
normally
you
would
think
emergency
responders.
F
Your
your
paramedics,
your
EMTs
they've,
actually
used
a
very,
very
broad
definition
for
emergency
responders
and
for
our
health
care
workers.
So
the
emergency
responders
are
not
only
all
those
individuals
that
work
for
our
EMS
division,
but
those
would
also
be
those
that
work
in
the
health
side
of
Health
and
Human
Services.
There
are
some
positions
within
the
public
side
of
Human
Services.
Our
detention
officers
are
our
sworn
police
officers
are
also
included,
so
it
does
offer
offer
us
some
protection
as
a
county.
F
The
two
recommendations
are
this
one
is
that,
even
though
the
law
says
we
only
have
to
pay
our
employees,
2/3
I
would
like
to
suggest
at
the
request
of
the
county
manager,
that
we
pay
our
employees
a
hundred
percent,
not
the
two
thirds
if
they
were
to
stay
home
to
care
for
their
children
or
if
they
were
to
provide
school-aged
child
care
for
their
children,
and
the
second
is
that
we
adopt
whatever.
The
definition
is
that
the
Department
of
Labor
is
using
for
exclusions.
F
So
if
I
were
to
apply
for
the
emergency,
family,
leave
I
would
go
to
the
family
or
the
the
Department
of
Labor
find
out.
If
my
position
is
exempt,
if
my
position
is
exempt,
then
on
the
day
that
I
applied
I
would
then
not
be
eligible,
where
I'm
going
is
that
we've
had
some
employees
who,
when
we
first
got
this
this
act,
it
came
in
effect
as
of
April
1st.
Those
positions
were
not
defined
as
excluded.
They
are
now
and
that's
not
fair
to
the
employees
to
exclude
them.
Now.
C
G
F
F
C
F
C
A
G
Which
is
why
we're
asking
for
the
exceptions
as
well,
so
that
would
that
would
exclude
our
first
responders
could
not
take
this
leave.
They
would
have
to
find
a
support
system
so
to
speak,
to
help
unless
they
were
sick
themselves,
I
had
to
care
for
themselves,
but
we
would
exclude
June
this
crisis.
We
didn't
salute
our
first
responders
and
our
health
care
workers
from
taking
off
just
for
12
weeks
completely
take
off
for
12
weeks.
So.
G
D
F
The
one
thing
I
can
say
that
I
have
not
seen
in
any
of
the
updates.
Department
of
Labor
is
doing
a
frequently
asked
question.
I
check
it
every
day,
because
they're
constantly
adding
updates
the
one
thing
I
haven't
seen
is
that,
typically,
if
school
gets
out,
June
25th,
that
would
be
the
end
of
the
school
year
now.
The
question
is:
is
there
any
childcare
centers
that
are
open
thereafter?
So
you
know
it?
Is
the
law
going
to
say
that
those
12
weeks
would
expire
on?
Let's
say
the
hypothetical
June
25th
I?
B
F
Put
their
child
in
child
care,
then
there's
you
got
the
school
wouldn't
have
been
in
session,
but
they
don't
have
any
child
care,
so
it
may
pick
up.
The
law
may
say:
well
if
they
were
going
to
be
putting
them
in
child
care,
because
mom
and
dad
would
have
been
working,
they
would
then
be
eligible
for
this.
I
would
assume
and.
G
H
A
It
does
only
apply
to
first
responders,
where
again
I'm
just
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
the
proposal
correctly,
that
this
would
be
for
many
many
employees
beyond
first
responders,
right
that
that
would
be
covered
by
this
benefit
right,
but
they,
those
staff,
would
they
currently
be
able
to
utilize.
The
health
care
I
mean
the
child
care
facilities
that
yes,.
G
Any
County
in
prison
we
do
have
normal
County
employees.
That
would
not
be
considered
first
responders
that
we
have
deployed
to
do
work
right
now,
so
they
are
actually
still
working
they're,
not
at
home,
like
some
of
the
other
employees
that
we
do
have.
So
those
employees
are
eligible
for
child
care.
A
So
so
Averell,
you
know,
as
we've
shifted
everything
around
here,
you
know
we've
had
to
put
departments
in
different
ways
of
working,
so
I
know,
there's
been
vast
changes
already
over
the
last
few
weeks,
but
I
guess.
I
I
would
just
like
to
hear
your
thoughts
at
a
high
level
about
if
this
were
to
be
put
into
place
and
it's
covering
over
half
of
our
workforce
or
or
something
in
that
neighborhood
then
does
this
raise
significant
concerns
for
you
about
how
you
want
to
see
the
county
operating
over
the
next
ten
weeks.
So.
G
G
Pay
structure
and
the
fact
that
the
policy,
the
federal
law
says
you
may
exempt
employees
so
because
of
the
may,
we're
asking
you
to
be
clear
now:
let
our
employees
know
who
is
exempt
and
who
is
not.
So
that's
the
policy
conversation
that
we're
asking
for
to
get
rid
of
them
may
be
exempt,
because
we
do
I'm.
Sorry.
C
G
Is
my
understanding,
but
if
you
have
a
different
one,
absolutely
time?
Okay,
so
that's
why
we're
asking
for
a
definition
around
who
is
exempt?
So
we
can
tell
our
employees
I'm
sorry,
but
I
do
need
you
to
come
to
work
because
we
have
to
provide
first
responders
or
we
do
have
to
run
EEOC
or
whatever
those
tasks
that
we're
asking
you
to
do.
G
We
need
you
here,
so
that's
the
reason
why
we're
asking
for
the
exempt
part
I
do
believe
because
of
our
employees,
and
we
have
provided
for
the
rest
of
the
employees,
not
the
first
responders
and
the
health
care
workers,
but
let's
call
them
our
civilian
employees.
I
do
believe,
because
we
have
provided
for
that
workforce
that
not
all
of
them
will
be
taken
this
right
now,
because
we
are
paying
them
already
to
do
work,
whether
or
not
they're
to
answering
phones
or
delivering
food.
C
A
To
just
tell
me
to
get
it
wrong,
but
all
of
these
employees
would
be
able
to
say
I'm
allowed
to
not
do
any
work
for
Buncombe
County
for
ten
weeks
and
I
get
paid
100%.
So
right,
I
know
we
have
a
very
dedicated
caring
workforce,
but
a
lot
of
people
are
gonna,
make
the
logical
decision
to
say
I'll
call
you
I'll
call
you
in
ten
weeks
and
we'll
check
in
and
see
where
we're
at
right,
I
mean
don't
be
under
no
obligation
to
do
any
work
for
the
county.
A
fee.
A
Home
correct
and
so
assuming
that
my
percentages
of
people
make
the
very
logical,
intelligent
decision
to
utilize.
That
benefit,
then,
are
we
looking
realistically
at
a
situation
where
a
high
percentage
of
the
County
workforce
is
simply,
you
know,
is
some
not
doing
any
work
for
the
next
ten
weeks
and
does
that
raise
significant
concerns
in
terms
of
just
kind
of
carrying
out
core
County
English
work?
It.
G
Would
if
they're
all
took
off
and
said
we're
taking
the
ten
weeks
of
paid
and
we're
gonna
have
a
child
aged?
Not
all
of
them
have
child,
so
remember,
they're,
specific
things
that
have
to
do
take
care
of
themselves
if
they're
sick.
So
for
us,
if
they're
sick,
if
it's
not
covet
they'll
bring
us
a
doctor's
note,
so
they
have
to
prove
they're
sick
or
they
have
to
have
a
school-aged.
Not
all
the
employees
will
fit
into
that
category,
but.
D
B
I
I
Of
the
discussion
is
that
I
think
calls
come
some
confusion
for
me.
Was
your
reference
to
half
the
workforce
now
I
think
that
that
half
the
workforce
is
roughly
half
the
people
that
can't
be
excluded,
so
that
doesn't
mean
that
there's
half
that
have
school-aged
children
or
can
prove
that
they
have
a
kovat
19
relative.
So
it's
I
think
it's
a
smaller
number
than
what
you're
looking
at
or
envisioning
okay.
But
exactly
to
answer
your
question,
I'm
not
sure.
E
F
It's
absolutely
so
right
now,
I
am
using
the
exclusion
of
that.
Whatever
Department
of
Labor
has
said
is
the
positions
that
we
will
be
excluding
and,
after
you
know,
having
a
conversation
with
the
county
manager.
Until
the
decision
is
made,
we
will
be
paying
those
employees
100
percent
of
their
their
salary.
J
I
asked
a
question
so
if,
if
this
law
is
re
into
effect
now
and
we're
gonna
wait
til
three
weeks
to
come
up
with
the
exclusions,
and
one
is,
is
that
something
that
we
oughta
maybe
try
to
decide
before
then
in
case
someone
wants
to
try
to
to
take
this
now.
Do
you
have
clear
direction
as
how
you
would
interpret
the
law
right
now.
F
G
You
more
clarity,
I
can
I
think
what
Sharon
is
saying
is
we
didn't
have
this
on
the
agenda
before
so
we
didn't
want
to
ask
you
to
add
it
or
make
a
decision
tonight.
I
want
to
explain
it
to
you.
Let
you
see
what
we're
talking
about
what
we
are
doing
out
to
implement.
It
is
not
to
harm
the
employee,
so
the
employee
that
they
apply
for
it.
Whatever
date
they're
apply,
whatever
exclusion
is
in
place,
we're
applying
that
exclusion
and
we're
paying
them
100
percent
we're
not
harming
the
employee.
G
If
you
should
choose
to
say
you
want
to
go
to
2/3,
then
that
will
be
going
forward
and
the
employee
would
then
anyone
I
plant
from
that
date
forward
would
then
to
be
applied
to
the
2/3
pay
if
that
makes
sense.
So
what
we're
doing
today
is
not
harming
the
employee
and
say
I'm
gonna
cut
your
pay.
What
we're
doing
is
keeping
you
whole
and
because
I'm
paying
some
people
hold.
G
D
G
C
D
D
H
D
It,
but
if
we,
but
it
depends
on
what
you're,
comparing
it
to
I
guess,
mmm-hmm
does
I
mean,
because
before
it
was,
it
was
Family
Medical,
Leave
Act,
which
and
a
lot
of
people,
and
maybe
some
people
in
this
room
had
already
taken
and
they
didn't
didn't,
receive
any
benefits.
And
so
it's
not
a
bad
deal.
You
know
which
were
ever
it
lands
right
either.
F
D
Mean
it's
it's
not
I
mean
it
could
say:
it's
not
I
mean
hundred
cents
much
better,
but
those
has
been
paid.
100
percent.
What
kind
of
managers
say
and
said
that
would
be
paid,
but
if
we
move
forward
at
a
hundred
or
we
move
for
it
two
hundred
and
that
would
not
be
unfair
to
any
of
those
people,
because
they're
still
gonna
be
getting
paid
more
quite
a
bit
more
then
on
Family,
Medical,
Leave,
Act,
I
guess.
A
A
A
K
With
today,
as
a
follow
up
from
our
initial
budget
conversation
and
haven't,
received
a
request
from
the
school
systems
to
extend
the
deadline
and
presentation
for
their
fiscal
year,
21
budgetary
requests,
we
are
proposing
the
filing
the
following
calendar
adjustments.
You
will
receive
the
fiscal
year.
Twenty
third
quarter
financial
report
from
Don
Warren
finance
director
at
your
regular
board
meeting
this
evening
at
the
May
5th
pre
meeting.
K
We
will
provide
you
with
a
fiscal
year,
20
estimated
year-end
for
revenues
and
expenses
as
well
as
fund
balance
analysis,
while
still
aiming
to
hear
from
any
Fire
District
requests
on
that
date.
This
moves
our
education
partners
to
pre
meeting
on
May,
the
19th
and
by
shifting
their
presentations
to
Maine
the
19th,
we
would
request
to
extend
the
county
managers
recommended
budget
presentation
to
June
the
second
moving
public
hearing
on
the
budget
to
june
16th,
with
the
option
for
budget
adoption
on
the
same
date
or
on
especially
called
meeting
on
june
23rd.
A
A
A
K
K
A
A
Soldered
I,
just
wonder
if
there's
any
my
concern
would
be
like
we're
kind
of
late
in
the
process.
At
that
point,
and
if
there's
big,
you
know
big
concerns
about
where
it's
at
there's
not
as
much
time
to
kind
of
you
know,
move
some
of
the
dials
at
this
point.
So
that's
I'll,
just
kind
of
raise
that.
A
So,
if
there's
some
ways
to
get
some
further
updates-
and
maybe
just
have
some
more
conversations
in
between
I-
think
that
that
would
be
beneficial,
especially
considering
how,
in
some
ways
you
know,
the
education
piece
can
be
so
big
and
we
always
wrestle
with
this.
But
that
comes
in
pretty
late
and
it's.
A
K
So
we
wanted
to
follow
up
on
some
of
your
previous
questions.
A
question
posed
from
Commissioner
Belcher
was:
why
did
other
taxes
and
licenses
decrease,
and
it
was
by
1.6
million
from
fiscal
year
2019
actuals
to
the
fiscal
year?
Twenty
and
twenty
one
budget
amount.
This
was
related
to
the
sale
of
Mission
properties,
where
the
deed
stamp
excise
tax
amount
was
1.1
million
dollars
in
that
fiscal
year.
K
An
additional
request
was
to
provide
context
for
requests
of
emergency
services
personnel.
We
are
working
with
the
department
and
we'll
have
detailed
information
for
you,
leading
into
or
up
to
the
recommended
budget
on
any
positions
that
are
proposed.
So
we
will
continue
to
work
to
get
a.
You
know
more
detail
in
context
for
you
around
around
any
of
those
requests.
K
Since
April
7th,
we
have
continued
to
work
with
departments
to
make
adjustments
from
from
our
first
past
budget.
It's
the
normal
progression
of
the
budget
process.
However,
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
presents
us
with
unique
challenges
which
is
not
new
new
to
any
of
us
and
around
a
significant
reduction
to
the
available
revenues
rather
than
revenue
growth.
The
items
in
the
following
slides
were
items
initially
considered
in
her
first
past
budget.
However,
most
of
the
items
are
now
proposed
to
be
placed
on
hold
until
fiscal
year
22
or
until
if
an
opportunity
arises
in
fiscal
year.
K
In
addition
to
salary
and
benefits
and
operating
and
program
support,
capital
projects
and
information,
technology
requests
have
a
cost
impact
to
the
general
fund,
based
on
a
recommendation
from
the
county
capital
projects,
review
team
and
a
review
by
the
county
manager.
Six
projects
are
proposed
to
be
debt
financed
and
remain
in
the
budget
and
include
the
listed
projects.
K
Three
of
the
six
listed
projects,
courthouse,
repairs,
jail,
repairs
and
fleet
services.
Complex,
would
have
an
estimated
fiscal
year.
21
budget
impact
of
debt
issuance
cost
at
approximately
$100,000
debt
payments
would
begin
in
fiscal
year.
20
to
the
courthouse.
Repairs
are
necessary:
preventive
maintenance
for
water
pipes
and
lock
systems
for
windows.
The
jail
repairs
is
a
need
to
address
safety
elements
of
replacing
jail
door
hardware
and
sliders,
as
well
as
epoxy
floor
in
the
showers.
D
K
So
continuing
the
two
projects
at
the
top
of
the
slide
are
for
public
safety
fleet
General
Services
Director
Michael
mace
has
worked
with
staff
to
evaluate
the
existing
fleet
based
upon
the
point
system
that
was
previously
introduced
and
is
recommending
the
replacement
of
24
sheriff
vehicles.
These
include
21
patrol
vehicles,
one
animal
control
and
two
school
resource
officer
vehicles
for
emergency
services.
It
was
previously
recommended
for
two
ambulances
and
one
truck
replacement.
K
We've
updated
their
proposed
fleet
purchase
to
include
one
ambulance
purchase
as
the
one
that
was
recently
approved
for
purchase
in
the
current
fiscal
year
and
one
truck
replacement
for
fiscal
year
21.
We
do
estimate
one
half
of
an
annual
debt
payment
cost
for
the
sheriff
and
emergency
services
proposed
vehicles,
totaling
an
amount
estimated
to
be
a
one
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand
dollars
for
the
final
listed
project.
We
have
evaluated
that
savings
from
a
previous
debt
financed
project
should
be
eligible
to
be
repurposed
towards
the
Lester
crossing
build-out.
K
The
county
manager
has
recommended
to
the
sheriff
that
an
evaluation
of
Lester
crossing
site
in
consideration
of
their
overall
needs
for
the
sheriff
operations
would
be
helpful
and
if
the
site
is
found
appropriate
for
the
needs,
a
design
phase.
As
the
first
step
toward
this
project
request,
we
will
bring
this
item
to
the
board
in
the
future.
Once
we
know
an
estimate
for
what
the
initial
scope
and
cost
would
be
yeah.
D
K
They're?
What
sir
there
is
a
description,
a
description
that
was
included
in
the
packet
that
was
sent
to
you
all
via
the
email,
but
that
is
an
opportunity
for
the
ability
to
address
some
of
their
property
and
evidence,
storage
and
I'm.
Trying
to
and
I
can't
remember
the
other
few
items
off
the
top
of
my
but
I
can.
G
D
K
K
K
So
this
is
our
other
category
of
capital
projects.
The
team
in
the
county
manager
were
previously
recommending
the
four
prioritized
list
of
projects
that
are
at
the
top
of
the
list.
The
current
recommendation
is
to
place
these
items
on
hold
for
fiscal
year,
21
again
with
an
opportunity
to
bring
them
back
to
the
board.
If
the
revenues
do
improve,
greenways
funding
allocations,
totaling
three
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
dollars
remain
based
on
our
current
commitments
to
an
installment
county
contribution
toward
the
inka
destination
project
and
a
final
year,
commitment
to
the
Black
Mountain
Greenway.
K
Additional
funding
towards
the
Woodfin
Greenway
design
is
currently
considered
being
considered
by
the
MPO.
If
that
funding
is
made
available,
we
are
recommending
that
the
450
$7,800
not
be
funded
in
the
general
fund,
and
that
is
not
currently
in
the
budget
and
I.
If
you'll
remember,
Parks
and
Rec
director
Josh
O'connor
brought
that
item
spent
several
months
and
said
going
into
width
and
design,
he
would
potentially
need
the
four
fifty
seven
eight,
so
that
is
in
consideration
by
the
MPO.
A
D
K
Apparently
it
was
determined
after
that
there
was
a
need
for
some
additional
power
to
be
supplied.
So
this
is
in
addition
and
was
post
grant
award.
So
we
are
in
discussion
with
General
Services
and
Parks
and
Recreation
around
what
could
be
available
funding
that
might
be
savings
from
another
project
that
we
could
repurpose
to
that
particular
item.
So
that
was.
D
Our
discussion
yesterday,
Monique
I'm,
not
only
concerned
with
that,
would
be
we've
had
in
the
past
conversations
about
the
expansion
of
the
sports
park,
the
the
greenways
and
you
know
we
have
voted
for
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
those
and,
if
$100,000
that's
holding
up
the
start
of
that,
you
know
I'm
not
too
excited
about.
You
know
continuing
to
delay
some
of
these.
These
projects
I
mean
I'd
like
to
see
I'd
like
to
see
one
of
them.
K
He
would
propose
and
needs
for
that
order
of
operations
to
be
changed,
so
this
additional
phase
of
power
would
need
to
go
first,
and
so
our
discussion
yesterday
was.
Could
we
bring
that
project
back
to
you
all
ask
for
this
to
be
funded
in
lieu
of
that
order
of
operations
so
that
we
could
move
forward
with
this
piece
so
that
that
has
been
our
conversation
yesterday
and
would
look
to
bring
that
back
to
you
on
the.
D
K
The
projects
outlined
on
this
slide
are
for
solid
waste
projects,
a
reminder
that
solid
waste
is
an
enterprise
fund,
so
this
is
separate
from
the
general
fund,
but
wanted
to
definitely
bring
these
to
your
attention
so
with
it
being
an
enterprise
fund,
it
means
that
the
expenditures
are
anticipated
to
be
covered
with
the
revenues
generated
as
a
result
of
their
operations.
There
are
a
total
of
six
projects
proposed
as
Pago
funding
in
the
amount
of
930
thousand
dollars
for
the
landfill
gas
utilization
study.
K
The
purchase
power
agreement
with
Duke
Energy
is
set
to
expire,
November
2021.
The
purpose
of
the
utilization
study
is
to
evaluate
viable
long-term
options
for
landfill.
Biogas
uses
the
landfill
engineering
cell
seven
design
and
permitting
is
an
initial
phase
for
the
cell.
Seven
that
ensures
that
we
are
prepared
in
a
sufficient
amount
of
time
to
use
the
next
phase
of
the
landfill
when
needed.
K
You'll
see
one
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
for
white
goods,
backup
loader.
We
plan
for
this
to
be
paid
from
their
restricted
fund
balance.
Those
dollars
are
specifically
earmarked
from
white
goods
revenue
earnings.
This
is
a
requirement
by
the
state
regulations.
So
white
goods
revenue
generates
earnings,
they
have
a
restricted
fund
balance.
We
plan
to
pay
for
this
particular
piece
of
equipment
from
that
restricted
fund
balance.
A
So
so
I
mean
obviously
I'm.
It's
a
great
project,
I'm,
very
supportive
of
it.
There's
a
lot
of
different
funding
sources
going
into
that
project,
part
of
which
is
the
you
know.
Town
of
Woodfin
passed
a
bond
for
the
project
are
any
of
their
funds
being
involved
in
the
planning
phase
of
the
project.
This.
G
A
Know
and
I'm,
certainly
not
against
the
county.
We've
invested
and
I'm
supportive
of
it,
but
it
is.
It
is
a
kind
of
a
partnership
project
right,
so
I
guess
I'm
just
raising
it
as
an
idea
like
if
we
can't
get
the
MPO
to
fund
it.
Maybe
you
could
be
maybe
Woodfin
can
help
with
at
least
in
part
with
with
some
of
that,
because
it's
so
it's
not
it's
not
100
percent.
K
So,
just
doting
that
the
other
pieces
of
our
equipment
here
for
solid
waste
are
either
at
the
end
of
their
use
for
a
lot
useful
life
or
the
cost-benefit
analysis
of
the
maintenance
being
required
suggests
that
they
need
to
be
replaced.
So
these
projects
are
forecasted
to
be
paid
from
revenues
generated
in
fiscal
year
21
and
the
fund
continues
to
be
on
track
to
be
able
to
do
so.
K
Similar
to
capital
projects,
review
team
information
technology,
Governance
Committee
was
established
for
the
first
time
this
fiscal
year
to
receive
and
recommend
information
technology
requests
for
the
annual
budget
cycle.
The
committee
reviewed
projects
with
an
applied
scoring
criteria
and
had
recommended
ten
projects
for
fiscal
year.
21
further
review
and
adjustments
include
placing
six
of
the
ten
projects
on
hold
for
fiscal
year
21
budget,
while
recommending
that
four
move
forward.
Those
four
include
the
GRC
tool
and
the
security
rating
tool
on
which
are
considered
critical
to
further
the
integrity
and
cybersecurity
of
our
information
technology
systems.
K
The
mountain
mobility
onboard
camera
system
is
at
the
end
of
its
useful
life
and
is
eligible
for
approximately
one
hundred
and
forty
eight
thousand
five
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
of
grant
funding
requiring
a
$16,500
county
match
just
appraised
software
is
anticipated
to
improve
the
efficiency.
Indeed,
review
and
transfer
process
between
the
tax
assessment
and
register
of
these
records
and
funding
is
available
in
the
reappraisal
reserve
fund
to
cover
it.
K
K
Affordable
housing
remains
flat
to
fiscal
year
20
at
2.3
million
early
childhood
education
comprises
a
total
amount
of
3
million
six
hundred
and
seventy
two
thousand
in
the
budget.
A
two
percent
inflationary
amount
of
72,000
is
added
in
fiscal
year,
21
over
a
total
funding
amount
committed
for
already
established
programming,
as
well
as
some
opportunities
for
early
childhood
new
early
childhood
funding.
K
Economic
development
incentives
are
budgeted
based
on
the
existing
commitments
at
1.3
million
dollars.
A
reminder
that
generally,
the
larger
amount
of
that
budget
is
Linamar,
but
if
we,
if
Linamar
did
achieve
their
benchmarks,
a
reminder
that
Linamar
funding
currently
totaling
three
million
dollars
is
set
aside
in
the
multi-year
fund.
So
that's
not
taken
into
account
in
this
portion
of
the
budget.
K
We
discussed
cost
of
living
briefly
last
time,
but
the
cost
of
living
that
was
effective
for
the
personnel
ordinance
on
April
1st
of
this
year
is
included
in
the
fiscal
year
21
budget.
The
cost-of-living
adjustment
that
would
be
considered
effective
at
the
end
of
next
fiscal
year
does
not
get
budgeted.
K
So
the
2.3
1%
that
was
effective
this
fiscal
year.
Obviously
we
have
to
roll
that
into
because
it
becomes
part
of
your
salary
and
wage
buzz
it
budget
for
fiscal
year
21
so
that
that
was
already
provided
so
for
that
April,
May
and
June
period,
rather
than
building
dollars
into
the
budget.
Yes,
the
expenditures
continue
to
hit
your
budget
line.
However,
it
is
lapse,
salary
that
covers
it.
So
when
we
have
vacancies,
so
vacancies
yield
savings.
A
A
K
And
and-
and
we
do
use
the
opportunity
for
that
so
in
our
in
our
first
pass
of
the
budget-
early
retirement
instead
of
costs-
are
1.3
million
dollars.
So
first
pass
we
budget
those
until
we
can
get
an
idea
and
start
doing
some
sort
of
projection
around
position
budgeting.
So
will
we
have
an
opportunity?
What
we'll
you
know,
potential
vacancies
be
so
going
into
an
another
pass
of
our
budget.
K
D
I
would
I
would
agree
with
the
Chairman's
point
at
the
same
time,
keeping
all
of
these
salary
conversations
together,
and
that
is
that
is
real-
that
we
have
some
savings
in
salaries
in
pay
and
it
does
it
does.
If
we
choose
for
it
to
cover
that
it
covers
Adder,
it
would
cover
I
mean
it's
savings,
but
we.
B
D
D
G
Lapse:
salary.
We
call
it
or
or
ease
attrition
due
to
attrition
a
new
savings,
the
money
that
you're
not
going
to
spend
on
salaries.
So
we
do
use
that,
but
I
do
want
to
clarify,
because
last
year,
when
we
talked
about
the
cost
of
living,
we
didn't
addressed
it.
It
is
a
part
of
the
personal
ordinance,
so
we
have
to
take
action
not
to
do
that.
A
We
had
a
very
robust
discussion
about
that
with
mr.
wood,
when
he
was
here,
and
you
know,
and
I
I
and
I
feel
I
was
on
the
side.
That
said,
let's,
let's
have
a
policy
of
providing
this,
so
I've
tried
to
be
real
supportive
of
it.
We
are
in
a
really
unique
period,
so
I'm
just
I'm,
just
raising
it
as
a
question.
A
You
know
we're
an
organization
of
people-
and
this
is
this-
is
it's
the
biggest
driver
in
our
budget,
so
I
just
I
just
want
us
to
talk
it
through
and
kind
of
kind
of
think
about
it.
I
mean
asper
our
policy.
The
current
policy
is
that
it
is
whatever
inflation
is
right,
so
we
are
in
a.
We
are
in
a
unique
environment,
we're
probably
in
a
deflationary
period.
Right
now,
right
I
mean
if
we,
if
we
went
out
and
checked
right
now,
we
might
be
negative.
I
mean
oil
is
less
than
$1
a
barrel.
A
Right
I
mean
so
this
is.
This
is
different.
We
don't
know
where
we're
gonna
be
next
April,
it's
probably
going
to
be
a
I
mean.
Realistically,
it's
probably
going
to
be
a
lower
number
than
what
we
seeing
in
recent
years,
but
we
just
very
challenging
to
forecast
where
that
might
land.
If
we
just
sort
of
stick
with,
you
know
the
policy
we
have
in
place
right
now,
right.
G
Correct
and
one
option
you
could
use
to
line
it
up
with
your
budget
and
set
off
April.
It
could
be
a
July,
so
you
can
look
at
it
in
a
holistic
approach
right
now
it's
in
April,
so
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
to
look
at
that.
But
until
you
open
and
said,
go
ahead
and
take
a
look
at
it
right
now,
it's
sitting
over
there
can.
G
E
G
E
That's
what
I
was
envisioning
like
if
but
I
was
curious,
some
things.
If
we
do
them,
they
have
to
apply
to
everyone,
and
then
there
are
other
things
that
we
can
I
think
do
segment.
So
if
we
wanted
to
say
the
folks
in
the
lowest
earning
quartile,
for
instance,
of
county
employees
would
get
a
cola,
but
it
would
be
frozen
for
one
year
for
food
I
mean
just
a
I'm
not
proposing
into
these
things
right
now,
but
just
kind
of
starting
to
understand
the
options
that
may
be
available
to
us.
I.
G
C
A
Well,
I
certainly
I
certainly
hope
we
can
do
you
just
keep
the
policy
I
guess
for
myself
I,
just
as
we
get
deeper
into
the
budget,
and
we
see
you
know
what
different
choices
need
to
be
made.
You
know,
maybe
we
need
to
revisit
it,
maybe
we'll
be.
Maybe
it
will
be
fine
to
just
kind
of
keep
them
keep
the
policy
as
we
would
default
to.
H
K
It
was
definitely
meant
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
four
that
that
we're
hoping
to
receive
direction
from
you
all
on
today,
so
those
four
are
going
to
be
the
ABA
complementary,
paratransit
playground
funding
for
some
specific
schools,
expanded
visitation
for
the
detention
center
and
phase
one
solar
projects
on
County
buildings.
So.
D
K
So
if,
if
we
can
go
ahead
and
we
will
start
with
the
ad
a
complementary
paratransit,
so
the
subsidy
for
the
city
of
Asheville
portion
of
AD,
a
paratransit
during
budget
development,
transportation
staff
had
indicated
a
likelihood
that
the
cost
of
the
operational
contract
would
increase.
With
an
increase
to
the
operational
expenses,
the
city
of
Asheville
was
originally
estimated
to
pay
an
additional
three
hundred
and
ninety
five
thousand
dollars
as
the
share
of
the
increased
cost
in
our
first
past
budget.
K
Since
that
time,
a
request
for
proposals
went
out
and
the
mountain
mobility
operational
contract
is
currently
under
review
for
bid
proposals.
Additionally,
since
the
time
an
updated
cost
estimate
for
costs
on
a
service
mile
basis
has
come
in
lower
than
initially
thought
using
the
existing
cost
estimate
rate.
The
shared
cost
to
the
city
would
be
estimated
currently
at
a
hundred
and
four
thousand
dollars
with
the
proposals
still
out
for
review
and
consideration.
A
You
know
I
I,
guess
I
would,
in
it's
a
much
much
much
more
manageable
number,
whoever
flipping
the
bill
for
it
now
than
what
it
might
been.
Let's
throw
my
two
cents
on
it.
You
know
this
is
this
is
node
weathers
partnership
kind
of
projects?
You
know
we're
providing
the
services
we
provided
outside
the
city
limits.
We
also
do
it
in
the
city
limits.
City
puts
money
in
to
reimburse
I.
A
Don't
know,
I
mean
part
of
it
is
you
know,
I
kind
of
see
this
as
an
area
where
we
need
more
partnerships
in
the
future,
maybe
just
kind
of
in
the
spirit
of
that
I
you
know,
I
might
suggest
we
do
something
where,
if
there's
some
additional
cost,
we
you
know,
maybe
we
share
them.
We
share
them
equally
between
two
organizations
or
something
something
like
that.
Well,.
G
We're
currently
subsidizing
so
at
that
and
we're
so
the
question
would
be:
do
we
maintain
that
rate
at
the
dollar
92,
or
do
we
let
them
they
weren't,
expecting
an
increase
of
the
395
in
their
budget?
So
this
is
good
news
for
them
as
well.
They
don't
have
to
pay
the
395,
so
the
question
would
be
the
the
county
fund
them
an
additional
hundred
and
four
thousand
dollars.
Do
we
split
that
in
half?
A
A
Know
what
idea
any
other
kind
of
initial
thoughts
I
mean
this
will
all
ultimately
be
in
the
budget.
Yes,
whatever
we
talked
about
today,
everyone
has
the
right
to
come
back
and
say
you
know,
I've
thought
about
this
more
and
here's
where
I'm
at
on
this.
So
this
is
just
sort
of
a
preliminary
discussion.
If
folks
have
any
initial
feedback,
we're
not
gonna
make
a
motion
and
vote
on
this,
but
that's
no
you're,
just
looking
for
some.
G
D
Mean
I,
don't
have
any
strong
feelings
against
it.
So
I
mean
my
position
with
the
with
the
routes
has
been,
you
know,
can
we
can
we
find
serve
other
areas
like
we
did
when
we
funded
Lester
and
that's
kind
of
when
I
think
about
you
know
partnership
with
the
city?
That's
where
my
mind
goes.
You
know
this
amount
is
certainly
doable.
So
the.
G
D
I,
don't
know
what
level
we
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about
that
I'm,
not
necessarily
saying
that
we
bumped
something
else
in
there,
but
we've
had
we've
talked
about
that
for
a
long
time
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
just
originally
he's.
You
know,
and
this
is
a
little
bit
it
can
be
a
little
bit
confusing
because
it
says
you
know
Commissioner
polarization
and
this
there's
one
thing
on
there
that
I'm
pretty
pretty
strong
about.
D
C
D
D
G
M
So
the
funding
would
be
for
the
county
to
include
an
additional
route
under
our
mountain
mobility
operating
contract.
This
cost
that
initial
upfront
cost
would
be
purchased
of
a
vehicle
without
any
grant
funding
support,
because
we
hadn't
sought
that
we
actually
apply
for
grant
funding
12
to
18
months
ahead
of
when
we
would
be
able
to
spend
it
so
we'd
be
buying
that
directly
at
full
cost
to
the
county,
and
then
the
operating
contract
cost
rates
combined
in
that
first
year
the
the
concern
and
the
reason
staff
hadn't
pushed
that
forward.
M
You
know
initially
is
that
by
purchasing
the
vehicle
without
grant,
funding,
we're
placing
the
vehicle
with
grant
funding
in
future
years
would
also
not
necessarily
be
available.
So
it
would
be
kind
of
an
ongoing
full
100%
capital
investment
by
the
county.
But
again
that's
just
informational
in
terms
of
kind
of
that
ongoing
cost
and
the
reason
for
the
drop
would
be
there's
that
initial
up
for
an
investment
of
capital
with
the
vehicle
camera
equipment,
radio,
everything
necessary
to
get
that
additional
vehicle
in
service.
So.
M
So
we
include
work
on
I
mean
we
actually
would
come
back
to
you.
So,
for
example,
if
if
the
route
was
to
be
pursued
for
fiscal
year,
2022,
not
21,
we
actually
would
come
back
to
you
in
the
fall
of
21
and
request
the
ability,
through
our
regular
process,
as
we
come
to
the
board
and
ask
for
the
ability
to
apply
for
grant
funds.
So
we
could
take
that
action
in
the
fall
of
this
year
to
the
line
that
grant
funding
for
use
in
2022
for
capital
procurement
as
well.
So.
D
We
would
it
be
part
of
a
conversation
and
it
would
be
we'd,
be
a
plan
for
grants
and
we'd
be
bringing
that
information
back
to
us
right.
It's
not
like
we're.
You
know,
I,
don't
like
its
term,
but
it's
I'm
gonna
use.
It's
not
like
we're
kicking
the
can
down
down
the
road.
We're
really
not
we'd
be
working
on
it,
instead
of
it
being
just
a
thought
and
am.
M
So
we
would
be
establishing
also
kind
of
a
recurring
source
of
revenue
for
that
capital,
investment
which
might
be
beneficial.
You
know
if
we
were
going
to
continue
to
pursue
that
route
for
multiple
years.
The
other
piece
of
information
that
we
would
have
you
know
at
that
time
would
be
our
new
contract
rates.
We
would
have
more
fixed
cost,
we'd
be
able
to
give
you
a
more
defined.
You
know
per
year
expenditure
and
also
flesh
out
more
specifics
on
the
routing.
How
frequently
we
would
want
that
to
run.
M
This
analysis
was
based
off
of
kind
of
how
often
we
run
our
existing
routes.
Does
that
make
sense
for
the
reynolds
community?
Those
would
be
conversations
we
could
explore
a
little
bit
further
if
we
were,
you
know,
pursuing
grant
funds
and
looking
at
designing
that
route.
More
specifically
through
this
board.
A
M
Correct
correct,
so
the
issue
with
this
route
design
is
that
it's
a
very
short
route
and
we
pay
by
service
mile
and
so
the
cost
to
operate.
The
inca
can
the
route
which
goes
from
good
well
on
patent
Avenue,
all
the
way
to
Haywood,
County
and
back
is
much
more
expensive
than
this
route
is
just
based
on
our
contract
design.
M
A
M
A
really
unique
situation,
all
of
our
existing
routes
have
what's
referred
to
as
an
hour
headway,
so
we're
running
that
vehicle
for
an
hour
each
run
that
service
takes
roughly
55
to
58
minutes
to
return
back
to
the
starting
point
and
runs
the
next
loop
in
this
route
design.
You
would
want
to
have
that
recurring
frequency
for
use
of
the
citizen,
but
there
would
be
significant
downtime,
so
the
vehicle
would
run
potentially
20
to
30
minutes
and
then
be
sitting
for
30
minutes
and
then
run
again.
So
you
have
that
recurring
service.
M
So
it's
a
really
different
design.
Just
because
it's
such
a
small
service
area
and
again,
that's
why
that
cost
would
be
significantly
less.
We
do
currently
utilize
grant
funding
for
the
operating
expenditures
for
all
the
other
routes
as
well.
So
that's
an
offsetting
cost
and
we
do
have
some
analysis
initially,
as
you
mentioned,
as
a
fixed
cost
for
the
service.
It
is
these
other
routes
would
be
more
expensive,
but
if
you
look
at
it
on
a
per
Rider
expense,
we
were
project.
M
E
E
M
Then
the
current
transit
master
plan
from
the
city
of
Asheville,
so
they
are
planned,
they
did
indicate
costs.
The
cost
for
the
city
would
be
significantly
higher
than
the
costing
we
are
showing
because
they
pay
on
a
revenue
our
basis.
They
employ
larger
vehicles.
They
have
CDL
license
drivers
to
operate
that,
so
their
expenses
would
be
much
more
significant
than
if
the
county
would
operated
in-house.
It
would
potentially
require
also
operating
contract
amendment.
M
A
So
I
know
we're
spending
a
fair
amount
of
time
on
this,
but
you
know
you
never
know.
What's
gonna
get
the
attention
of
us
up
here,
the
but
again
understand,
there's
not
a
detailed
plan
that
you
know.
It's
still
be
kind
of
a
work
in
progress
if
we
were
moving
this
ahead,
but
I
mean
in
a
way
the
idea
of
like
so
we
might
because
we
pay
for
based
on
a
revenue
per
mile
and
a
kind
of
compensation
contract.
A
We
really
might
buy
a
bus
and
have
a
contract,
but
then
the
bus
would
drive
around
for
a
half
an
hour
and
then
sit
there
for
an
half
an
hour,
and
we
would
do
that
so
that
we
don't
have
to
pay
to
drive
more
miles.
I
mean
it
just
I
mean
I
realize.
Maybe
that
makes
rational
financial
sense
for
the
county
to
do
it,
but
it
seems
like
if
you
bought
a
bus
and
there's
someone
being
paid
to
drive
a
bus
that
then
just
having
it
kind
of
park
for
a
half-hour
seems
really
inefficient.
M
Set
up
so
our
contractor
is
obviously
going
to
want
to
be
as
efficient
as
they
can
they're
paying
that
operator,
whether
that
operator
is
driving
the
vehicle
or
not.
We
are
only
reimbursing
them
for
the
mileage
that
they're
operating
and
so,
for
example,
when
we
have
brakes
on
our
trail,
blades
or
service
routes
that
are
existing.
Now
they
actually
deployed
that
vehicle
and
the
operator
to
move
other
passengers
during
the
downtime
of
those
routes.
Now
those
are
often
one
or
two
hour
breaks
the
way
that
those
routes
are
designed.
M
So
a
30-minute
break
in
that
particular
area
may
provide
them
an
opportunity
to
perhaps
an
ad
a
paratransit
trip,
but
they're
very
likely
to
try
to
utilize
that
vehicle.
We
would
also
want
to
consider
exactly
what
vehicle
we
would
want
to
purchase,
because,
typically,
a
trailblazer
vehicle
is
a
heavier
duty,
larger
vehicle
than
what
we
would
deploy
to
send
to
a
customer
residence.
So
we
may
look
at
what
kind
of
vehicle
we
would
realistically
want
to
use
for
a
service
where
they
may
deploy
that
vehicle
to
do
other
things
in
the
break
in
between.
M
G
The
one
thing
we
can
talk
about
that
is,
if
it's
not
gonna,
make
it
to
the
budget,
will
be
look
to
apply
for
a
grant
in
the
fall
and
bring
that
back
to
you,
so
that
we
can
then
talk
to
the
community
about
in
2022.
We
will
look
to
deploy
around,
so
that's
something
that
we
can
talk
about
if
it
doesn't
make
it
into
this
budget
for
2021
it'd.
D
A
Would
you
know
at
minimum
be
really
interested
in
in
having
you
know
putting
it
on
the
agenda
kind
of
for
kind
of
to
prepare
for
more
in-depth
discussion
about
it?
I'm?
Definitely
supportive
of
trying
to
do
trying
to
do
more
and
I've
definitely
heard
hear
from
people
in
the
community
who
are
supportive.
A
you
know,
like
I,
said
sure
we
all
do
the
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
makes
this
challenging
as
I've
thought
about.
You
know
this
is
something
to
really
try
to
go
to
bat
on
as
strong
as
possible.
A
Is
that
when
we
look
at
the
ridership
levels
on
the
Trailblazer
routes-
and
you
know
the
like
the
fixed
routes
that
Asheville
runs,
you
know
within
the
city
limits
it's
some
like
the
cost
per
Rider
is
so
so
different
right
I
mean
like
it's
a
very
expensive
service
to
provide
with
the
ridership
levels
being
so
low.
This
area
has,
you
know,
significantly
lower
population
density,
Weaverville,
black
mountain
inca,
the
places
we
already
provide
a
similar
service
I
mean
so
I.
Think,
realistically,
it's
gonna
be
even
higher.
A
So
I
want
the
county
to
do
more
to
support
community
transit.
Whatever
amount
of
additional
funding
we
have
to
provide.
You
know
we
need
to
provide
it
in
a
place
where
it
does
the
most
good
right
gets
them
provides
the
most
benefit
to
the
community.
So
there's
a
case
to
be
made
here,
because
this
right
now
this
is
an
area
that
doesn't
really
have
any
service,
but
I
just
think
we
would
need
to
carefully
weigh
those
those
kind
of
decisions,
because
it
would
be
on
a
per
rider
basis,
predictably,
a
very
expensive
service
to
provide.
A
If
we
did
do
it,
maybe
we
do
it
as
like
a
pilot
project
or
something
to
kind
of
check
it
out.
Maybe
we'd
be
pleasantly
surprised
by
the
utilization,
but
I
think
I
would
be
very
hesitant
to
make
a
long-term
commitment
to
it
until
we
have
kind
of
more
that
kind
of
data
and
information.
Those
are
just
a
few.
My
thoughts
about
about
it
all.
K
K
We
understand
Commissioner
Belcher
you've
been
able
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
intermediate
school
principals
and
using
the
cost
estimate
that
we
that
we
had
available
for
Inca
intermediate
for
an
estimated
total
cost
of
twenty
seven
five.
Forty
eight
they've
been
able
to
raise
some
money
and
so
indicating
a
county
match
or
a
contribution
of
fifteen
thousand
for
each
of
those
intermediate
schools
and
then,
with
the
known
of
Pisgah
elementary,
there
was
a
request
for
a
grant
match
of
two
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
and
then
a
placeholder
on.
K
What
we
know
is
that
there
was
an
individual
I'm
here
worked
at
or
was
associated
with
Johnston
elementary,
who
came
in
and
made
public
comment
and
made
a
request
for
needs
at
Johnston
elementary.
We
have
a
placeholder
amount.
We
don't
have
an
identified
amount
for
Johnston,
but,
based
on
these
assumptions,
a
total
I'm
request
would
equate
to
$65,000
in
this
particular
item.
So.
A
D
D
Typically,
the
cost
is
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
the
you
know
when,
when
I
first
heard
about
this
I
thought
was
if
we
could,
if
we
get
help
with
half
of
that,
that
would
make
a
big
difference
for
the
for
the
for
the
PTO,
and
we
have
to
remember
that
when
they're
most
of
the
money
they
the
PTO
raises
they
raise
from
the
parents
in
which
hat,
which
haven't
you
known,
F
of
a
bond
on
them
now,
but
I
did
not
talk
to
every
principal.
Was
you
know
they
they're?
D
G
Move
on
to
that,
I
would
share
that.
The
school
district
themselves
has
not
prioritized
these
and
they
said
if
there
was
money
to
be
had,
they
will
prefer
to
use
them
for
salaries
and
other.
It
was
cool
the
systems
level
so
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
that
was
their
take
I'm,
not
providing
these
playground
equipment.
D
So
let
me
let
me
make
a
comment
on
that.
I
been
talking
to
one
of
the
principals.
It
is
true
that
if
there
was
a
list
of
capital
needs
that
a
playground
would
fall
at,
like
maybe
never
number
27
was
actually
the
number
that
was
given
to
me,
and
so
they
would
never
get
to
it.
So
it's
one
of
those
things
that
you
know
if
you
got
to
fix
a
leak
on
the
roof
or
you
got
to
replace
a
roof.
D
You
got
a
there's,
so
many
needs,
and
chairman
Numa
knows
this
there's
so
such
a
list
of
things
that's
needed.
This
just
falls
in
a
hole
work.
They
say
that
you
know
we'll
let
the
pts
handle
that
so
I'm,
not
sure
where
that
comes
from.
If
that
comes
from
you
know,
when
you're
talking
about
coming
from
the
school
system,
but
I
can
tell
you
coming
from
the
principals
and
coming
from
the
community.
A
So
why
don't
we?
You
know
I
suggest
we
just
kind
of
keep
it
in
keep
it
in
here.
I
think
we're
gonna
have
plenty
of
tough
choices
down
the
road,
and
this
you
know
this
will
be
on
a
list
of
things
that
we
can
always
come
back
and
talk
more
about
once
we
have
it
once
we
have
the
school's
complete
budget
request,
we'll
kind
of
have
a
sense
for
how
much
we
need
to
wrestle
with
different
details
like
this
I'd
love.
I
would
like
to
do
it
if
we
can
I.
I
D
A
K
For
the
next
item,
commissioner
Beach
Ferrara
had
specified
I'm
keeping
the
expansion
of
the
detention
center
visitation
for
consideration.
Our
conversation
with
the
sheriff's
office
has
been
in
order
to
offer
the
expanded
visitation.
It
would
require
one
additional
detention
center
position
with
a
cost
estimate
of
$75,000,
and
you
can
see
the
current
state
of
the
visitation
and
then
the
proposed
state
about
what
that
additionally
would
be
be
able
to
offer.
E
And
just
a
little
bit
more
context
again
sort
of
learned
about
this
really
through
being
on
the
j-rock
committee
and
I,
don't
know
the
history,
but
the
reality
currently
is
that
Buncombe
County
is
unusual
and
not
providing
in-person
visitation
to
inmates
and
that
most
of
the
folks
at
the
Buncombe
County
Detention
Center
are
there
in
a
pre-trial
capacity,
meaning
they
haven't
yet
had
a
trial.
They
haven't
either
been
acquitted
or
convicted.
E
Many
of
folks
are
there
because
they
can't
meet
a
bond
requirement
or
secure
bond
requirement.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
the
context
around
it
and
in
many
ways
being
able
to
provide
in-person
visitation,
meaning
someone
could
see
their
family
in
person
while
they
were
in
detention,
would
kind
of
bring
Buncombe
into
line
with
really
sort
of
what's
considered
kind
of
a
basic
threshold
of
a
basic
standard,
I
should
say
so.
That's
just
a
little
bit
more
context
on
that.
A
And
does
anybody
have
any
other
data
on
that
question?
I'm
just
is
the
way
we
do
this.
Is
it
fairly
unusual
I
mean
I
I,
just
I've
heard
I've
you've
heard
what
Jasmine
just
relayed,
but
do
we
have
any
kind
of
data
on
in
most
counties
in
North
Carolina?
Can
a
person
go
and
visit
a
family
member
and
see
them,
or
are
they
mostly
talking
through
screens
like
this?
They.
G
Do
talk
through
screens,
but
they
can
do
face
to
face
through
that
are,
but
will
get
the
data
that
was
shared
with
a
rack
around
this
I'm
looking
at
DK,
because
she
will
pull
that
data
with
Tiffany.
But
in
most
North
Carolina
counties
the
parents
can
come
and
see
their
relatives
without
having
to
pay
a
cost
or
a
schedule
time
via
video.
They
can
come
and
sit
across
the
table
and
talk
to
their.
C
E
Want
to
hear
whether
fix
land
I
mean
this
is
something
I
would
advocate
for,
if
we're
in
a
position
to
be
doing
additional
steps,
but
certainly
want
to
hear
other
people's
thoughts
either
now
or
at
a
later
date,
and
I
will
also
try
to
see
if
I
can
dig
up
any
of
the
data
that
was
shared
with
me
around
it.
I.
H
C
A
Mean
you
know
we're
gonna
plenty
of
hard
decisions,
so
I
don't
think
we
can
guarantee
any
of
the
things
we're
talking
about
today
that
are
getting
some
favorable.
You
know
comments,
I,
don't
think,
there's
that
that
means
that
they're,
a
lock
by
any
means
it
seems
like
a
very
humane
thing
to
enable
to
me
yeah.
D
C
D
D
A
K
Said
the
last
item
chairman
Newman
expressed
the
desire
to
maintain
the
solar
project
on
County
buildings
for
consideration
in
the
fiscal
year
21
budget,
the
phase
1
project
cost
provided
by
the
sustainability
office
is
2.9
million
phase.
1
solar
panels
can
be
purchased
via
Pago
or
debt
financed
for
a
cash
purchase.
The
2.9
million
dollars
is
reduced
by
rebates
and
incentives,
which
are
estimated
to
be
five
hundred
and
seventy
four
thousand
dollars
for
either
scenario.
K
Reducing
the
cash
amount
to
two
point:
three
million
in
year,
one
the
point
at
which
you
have
a
positive
cash
flow
or
your
breakeven
would
be
nineteen
point
six
years
for
debt
financing.
The
same
initial
two
point:
three
million
dollar
cost
at
an
estimated
three
percent
Interest
amortized
over
twenty
years.
Your
yields,
a
total
cost
of
three
point:
nine
million
dollars.
The
maximum
allowable
period
to
finance
per
policy
is
twenty
years.
The
estimated
break-even
point
is
twenty
six
years
in
either
scenario,
the
estimated
electric
bill
savings
over
30
years
is
four
point:
seven
million
dollars.
K
A
K
A
So
I'll
say
I'm.
Certainly
supportive
of
the
idea
of
you
know
this
paying
for
this
with
cash
upfront.
I
think
you
know
probably
never
personally
made
sense
to
me
as
a
way
to
do
this,
but
certainly
in
the
current
year,
where
you
don't
have
that
kind
of
money
to
pay
for
it
upfront,
but
considering
it
as
a
debt
financing,
option
I
think
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
A
You
know
again
I'm
gonna
Express,
my
optimism
that
the
RFP
process
is
gonna,
come
back
and
show
that
the
because,
because
we're
paying
that
have
lights
on
right
now,
right
so
unlike
playgrounds
and
other
things
that
are
great
to
invest
in,
but
they
don't
pay
for
themselves,
you
you
buy
them
off.
They
provide
good
sure
that
we
actually
not
not
in
a
literal
cash
drawer
that
kind
of
cash
sense,
but
we
have
to
pay
the
light
bills
already.
D
D
A
I
think
that
the
short
answers
on
it
and
Jeremiah's
here
you
can
certainly
come
up
in
and
weigh
on
us.
The
technology
itself
is
expected
to
last
30
to
35
or
more
years.
So
this
this
is
debt
financing
it
for
20
years
and
I
think
that
so
the
will
get
the
benefits
of
a
way
beyond
the
debts.
You
know
the
time
the
debt
service
has
long
since
been
retired
and
I
think
that's
the
short,
the
short
version.
A
If
the
energy
savings
over
the
whole
lifecycle
of
it,
you
know,
are
showed
that
the
solar
project
is
cheaper
than
just
buying
power,
then
there's
I
think
just
from
a
pure
financial
decision.
There's
a
good
argument
that
it
makes
financial
sense
to
do
it.
If
it's
actually
saving
more
money,
even
while
you're
retiring
the
debt,
then
it
kind
of
enters
into
sort
of
you
know
kind
of
no-brainer
territory
because
you're
paying
for
what
you
do
paying
for
anyway,
and
at
some
point
it's
actually
just
free
cuz,
the
debts
retired.
K
H
K
J
N
Good
afternoon,
it's
labeled
as
phase
one,
because
the
intent
of
this
process
was
to
continue
to
look
at
County
facilities
as
they
become
available
and
makes
sense,
and
we
do
things
like
roof
replacements
and
opportunities
for
additional
solar.
You
know
sort
of
come
on
board.
We
just
labeled
this
as
phase
one,
because
this
was
our
first
pass
at
seeing
what
what
buildings
made
the
most
sense
in
terms
of
today's
facilities
and
then
phase
two
would
be
in
the
future.
We
will
look
to
continue
to
do
processes
similar
to
this
one.
Okay,.
J
J
And
this
here
does
include
an
increase
in
what
secure
energy
might
cost
in
the
future.
It
includes
what
would
happen
if
something
happens
to
the
panel
correct
I
mean
you
know,
I
mean
I
know
the
panels
are
gonna,
they
may
last
for
30
years
correct,
but
I
mean
they're
gonna
produce
the
same
energy
in
the
30th
year
that
are
produced
in
the
first
year.
N
N
That's
kind
of
the
industry
standard
and
that
is
taken
into
account
in
these
projections,
as
well
as
the
operations,
maintenance
and
potentially
even
equipment
replacement,
is
all
all
factored
into
these
costs,
because
it
was
a
quick,
okay,
yeah
yeah
the
panels
themselves
virtually
never
need
to
be
replaced,
but
some
of
the
equipment
around
the
panelists
like
inverters
things
like
that,
occasionally
do,
and
so
there
is
cost
built
in
to
these
estimates-
that
that
include
that
equipment
replacement.
So.
J
N
We
have
really
estimated
these
very
conservatively.
We
are
very
hopeful
that
those
numbers
will
come
in
lower
than
this
and
that
the
savings
we've
also
estimated
very
conservatively
will
be
more
as
an
example.
One
of
the
things
that
we
didn't
include
in
our
savings
were
things
like
demand
charges
on
utility
bills,
which
there's
no
way
to
really
model
how
those
will
be
reduced,
but
they
will
be
reduced,
so
the
savings
should
be
more
and
the
costs
should
potentially
be
less.
These
are
very
conservative
estimates,
so.
J
What
happens
if
it's
snowing
outside
and
it's
raining
outside?
Do
we
have
storage
capacity
that
or
we
we
continue
to?
We
be
tied
to
the
grid
and
is
there
any
I
know
we
can't
predict
the
weather
correct,
but
is
any
way
of
knowing
that
a
lot
of
this
costs
may
not
be
where
they're
at,
because
we're
not
being
able
to
use
a
solar
energy,
because
we
don't
have
sunlight
that.
N
Is
correct,
so
all
of
the
modeling
is
done
based
on
historical
weather
patterns.
So
when
we
estimate
production,
it's
based
on
what
the
weather
has
been
long-term,
so
we
have
some
fairly
fairly
good
production
estimates
that
include
those
potentials
for
very
cloudy
days:
rain
snow,
those
things
those
are
really
all
factored
into
what
our
production
estimates
are
and.
N
J
J
N
J
N
C
L
N
That
sort
of
thing,
so
all
of
that
stuff
is
looked
at
in
advance
of
doing
the
RFP
so
that
we
can
be
certain
that
we're
putting
on
a
structure
that
makes
sense
and
is
viable
for
solar
and
yes,
roof
warranties
are
taken
into
consideration,
and
so
you
know
we
we
do
absolutely
factor
those
elements
and
as
we're
deciding
which
buildings
make
the
most
sense
for
for
these
installations.
Ever
we
have.
We
made
that.
N
N
Was
our
list
to
start
with
those
were
the
ones
that
made
the
most
sense?
There
are
a
handful
of
buildings
that,
for
example,
may
be
due
for
a
roof
replacement
over
the
next
several
years
and
that
might
sort
of
open
up
additional
possibilities,
but
these
14
were
were
sort
of
the
low-hanging
fruit,
the
ones
that
made
the
most
sense
and
and
also
in
terms
of
the
production
estimates
of
the
systems
themselves
and
offsetting
a
large
percentage
of
the
facility's
actual
utility
usage.
L
C
N
L
N
A
very
quick
and
very
efficient
payback.
Well,
unfortunately,
we've
we've
taken
advantage
of
the
vast
majority
of
those
where
we
could
and
as
we
continue
to
look
for,
how
do
we
increase
our
energy
efficiency
and
how
do
we
add
renewable
energy
we
get
into
once
we've
made
the
building
efficient,
you
know:
how
can
we
offset
that
that
utility
usage
with
on-site,
how.
L
N
N
E
E
That's
something
I've
been
sort
of
excited
about
from
the
start
and
interested
to
see
if
we
have
any
either
local
companies
in
the
bidding
process
or
companies
that
would
be
considering
hiring
locally
I.
Think
that's
something
on
all
of
our
minds.
Right
now
is
any
project
that's
out
there
that
might
be
bringing
jobs
or
work
online
in
the
coming
year,
so
or
your
plus.
So
anyway,
it's
a
little
off
field
from
the
the
PDF
in
front
of
us,
but
just
wondered
if
you
had
any
thoughts
on
that.
E
N
Just
to
give
you
an
example,
the
pre-bid
meeting
that
we
had
yesterday
there
were
24
qualified
solar
developers
that
attended
the
pre-bid
meeting,
which
was
a
great
turnout
for
us.
We
were
very
excited
about
that.
Many
of
those
are
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina
and
some
actually
right
here
in
Nashville
and
it's
a
it-
is
a
real
possibility
that
some
of
the
larger
corporations
that
are
capable
of
handling
an
aggregated
process
of
this,
this
scope
would
subcontract
a
certain
portion
of
that
work
out
to
local
developers.