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Pre-Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners that took place on March 19, 2019.

This is the second upload of this video with improved audio.

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Joe is hungry.

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Let's get started and thanks everyone for joining us, and this is kind of a new thing. We're gonna be trying out here, meetings get organized for our regularly scheduled visa. We hope this might be some space for some good conversations about upcoming issues, issues that we'll be dealing with out of formal meetings. We've obviously won't take any meetings.

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So thanks everyone for being with us and I'll turn it over to audible. To get us started.

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The medic resolutions board approved two weeks ago to grant the franchise to medic, so what we have done is I have worked with mr. Colley's attorney Derek Jones out of Henderson County to draft that agreement. I believe, looking at my notes, I heard the Commission talk about fees, inspections, a one-year term GPS units radio set and make sure that Tollywood be located goings in locations selected by EMS.

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So those are all elements included with, and the agreement and which has been approved did have one addition which I need to get to a little more for the forward and that is to put in a mandatory HIPAA HIPAA compliance provision. So we've included that as well.

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Just to give you a quick bullet point so for one year term, during 7 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. seven days a week, there'll be two ambulances available for the emergency and convalescent transport from 9 a.m. to 7 a.m. it would be one ambulance, such transport to a large degree. What equipment colleague might choose is needed for the medic sux might depend on what options he feels are necessary. We do know that, for a period of time he's been dispatched without the particular equipment for a VL and computer-aided dispatch, but that would be available.

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He would have to buy any equipment and have it installed and maintained. It department would help of programming installation, but they're not going to be the medics IT department, so to speak. They would charge a fee as they do to the other.

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As to all the 19 fire service districts, each of them pays $1,500 a year just as a flat rate fee for support for my T for that programming.

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Any other particular questions I would be happy to hit on that, but I believe we hit all the elements on that. His attorney has agreed with those elements.

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Meeting and regular meeting sessions, this meeting is called as a special game. That's not a regular meeting of the board. So the purpose of the next item on the agenda for tonight will be the setting of a regular three meeting scheduled for the twelve moon first and third Tuesday of the month and continuing with the regular meetings at 5:00 p.m. all those same dates.

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Do we know, can these meetings in this room be reported and televised on the government.

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Okay for the Health and Human Services Board the last time. The statute for the combined HHS Board allows for it to be composed of 25 members or more than 25 members. They have been operating for a few years of 23. So this is just a mechanism just to pass and say well, it can be up to 25. We recognize the currently have 23. There's no plans to extend that, but just want to make sure that that's officially in place.

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If there's any change, it would come from recommendation from HHS for to this board, which was have final say as to the.

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Yes, it does bring it into compliance. The current the current the last time this court had a resolution.

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The next item is some renovations at three of our lives, the courthouse that can't have been built in any patient center. They all make Aesir renovation. So it is an awesome. Take tuck point cut point on our buildings. That's the next item he would be presenting by our general services.

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Is to award a contract for a single prime contract to do some work at minute. 50 cause.

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That's a complete renovation of the interior that space to make it available for housing of the elections, equipment and some offices.

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It used to be this.

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Is a resolution that was brought to us by sorry everybody but.

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There's an organization: that's.

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Been working on exploring the feasibility of restoring passenger rail service to Western, North Carolina, you know some folks might recall this was an effort that was getting you know getting looked at pretty hard about ten years ago and then the you know the recession came along and you know this is something that was required fairly. Significant infrastructure upgrades and you know, in light of the state, basically be broke.

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They were like well.

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Let's you know we'll come back to this Omega. Well, it's coming back so there'll, be someone with us this evening is part of the effort who will who's more knowledgeable about it. He will talk about the effort. This was discussed briefly at a recent, the most recent NPO meeting and the indio did pass a resolution in support of basically the same resolution. I believe it's also been adopted by the town, Marion North Carolina, believe Morganton has also adopted a resolution.

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You know the small towns that are located along where this route would be are particularly enthusiastic about the ideas. I think it would be something that would brave increase, particularly in tourist visitation to those parts of Western North Carolina.

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The way that the as I understand it, the way that this would work and that this model has been implemented in a couple of eastern North Carolina communities where passenger rail service is also being looked at. What.

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They did initially to.

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Determine feasibility and likely usage of those routes was they ran an express bus route in the same location as where the passenger rail service would be to get as since, for you know how many folks would use this if there was an express transit connection from you know from I think it.

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Was either new burn or Wilmington? One of those Eastern.

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American communities to where there's a connection to the eastern North, Carolina M track service to get a sense of usage. So and apparently it's been fairly successful.

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You know I kind of intuitively kind of wonder whether the folks who might use rail would actually use an express bus route is the real thing. Actually it would be.

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Actually I can see, it'd be a pretty popular way to come to Asheville, but but the folks who are working on this do say that in other places, where it's been tried out, that there has been a fairly significant usage and therefore they feel, like they've, gathered some good data to use for analyzing rail service without having to go through all of the costs of actually implementing that.

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So that's, basically, what they want to do is to try that out from Nashville to South, Ferry and and if the state funds that then that would be done for some period of time and then based on the success of that it would be folded into the feasibility for really looking at actually restoring passenger rail service. So that's my understanding of the with the.

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Profit grants which were you refer to as a strategic partnership.

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Plan we received a total of 51 projects applied for.

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Summary sheet shows for you the number of projects that were granted in FY 19, so our current year there were 24 projects, funding.

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Looking at what has come in for FY 2019 of those total 51 were requesting a regram or a continuation. Some of those are expansion. There were 33 new applications and you can see you came in late and we have noted those on the list.

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What I want to point out is that there are five that are selected to transfer into departments and those are.

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It's essentially a neutral cost and would be backed out of the request.

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Partnerships same for this set of housing related investments. The move was to consolidate our housing funding into.

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Standardized approach to working with Habitat, working with Mountain housing opportunities, and so there's $180,000 worth of dollars. Habitat habitat and mountain housing has gotten through strategic partnership grants that we services program for 20 and there is an additional one hundred and fifty one thousand dollars that we used the strategic partnership to budget.

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To transfer over as a way to increase.

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So if we transfer those out of the.

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That reduces down to about six hours. As a reminder, the told requested was three, so that's leaving us a gap of about.

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Staff needs some direction from the internship process over the years.

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Process in previous years, we've had those meetings where the applicants come public comment, style, three minutes per organization projects.

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From my perspective, the information that's provided the three-minute at the microphone.

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Context to each application, one.

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To carving outside carving aside an afternoon to think about strategic partnership scheduled for all of us, and you can leave that day with your votes on which projects.

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I am, and that's all we need to think I would.

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Like to make the full applications available to you and we can publish them on our website a cover sheet for each one, with any additional text.

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Then we can provide a scoring sheet or something a place for commissioners to indicate yes or no and full or partial.

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Yes, last time use you recommended specific dollar amounts, some commissioners kind of full or partial exercise to take those holiday to consolidate set of options which commences.

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Want to see more in.

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Making sure that we have information on ones with funding and with funded in five years, what have they done? What does that accomplish? That's just like when I look at the housing repair and the homes and all I want to make sure I see the numbers. How many people were really affected by don't tell me how many were supposed to be affected. I want to know some actual figures, because I have some questions about some of these I'm hearing.

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One thing from the community did another from there, so I'm going to see some make sure we have good numbers, so we can make intelligent decision.

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Got half a year's worth of performance data on a dashboard for you, I'll get the latest information.

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You by the time you're making these decisions, the reporter of data, which will take us through the end of March.

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Where you ask agency-specific.

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Understanding of the approach for these three that would be transferred, Natural, Area, Habitat, home repair, Asheville area housing and madly housing, affordable housing, those three with their dollar amounts.

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So we wouldn't be earmarking as a line item for this agency in this program, but increasing the project by those dollar notes as accurate. Yes,.

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I think that we're trying to do with the affordable housing services program is bring them into overall competition. So it's a point based system so rather than as Rachel just pointed out, there's not a designated dollar amount but bring them.

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Into actual competition we're in a 240, they would give them out.

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And that's right.

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We will follow up and let you know for the for the purpose of this discussion: no because they have not made an application to the strategic partnership grant process for this year. But your point is well-taken. They will make sure you have the information.

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But simply just say: right: they're gonna have to apply for it, and nothing. People are just we're. Transferring this over to planning right, they'll have to give you that process. So you're.

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You're not you're, marking these dollars for or either habitat, where a oh, no.

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That that sector.

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Will have fun date and then, whichever proposals are the strongest will get awarded to do a process, their.

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Organizational request was to have an earmark, doesn't line item.

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There for 20,000.

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So yes, applications I mean yes, she person presentations are no. You.

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Know, I I think it was good. We did it last year. You know we had new commissioners I mean I, you know it's a grueling meeting for everyone involved. I always am impressed how how much I learned from it. You know you. People only have three minutes, but you know if you can't say what you are trying to get done in three minutes, then that's kind of a problem right.

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You should kind of hear it as kind of your elevator speech right and sure you don't get into all the nuances of what you accomplished and all the complexities of the issue, but I mean I, am always very impressed with how good the job goes to do communicating a lot in a short amount of time, but I, especially a might accompany new applications.

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There are I think it would be I question I mean if so, I'm sort of working on the assumption that we're not gonna spend a lot more in this area than we did in the last budget. I'm kind of thinking about this, it's probably kind of a continuation level of funding. If that's, if that's where the other commissioners are thinking about it too I mean the reality.

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Is there's not going to be probably a lot of new projects funded right and that's that's kind of my working assumption, so I personally, I'm not sure it's a good use of time to interviews on tons.

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Applications when, unless the Commission is sending some signal that we're interested in investing a lot more in this area in this budget cycle than we did in you know the most recent one, that's kind of my take not to say we wouldn't do interviews in the future, but for this budget cycle it seems like a lot of time for maybe not the best focus of our budget attention.

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I'm not sure I quite understand how that is, have been made previously. Is there not a scoring mechanism.

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I can walk you through how it happened. Last okay and I'll tell you each year, it's a little bit different okay, and because that's because I.

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Mean it is on our subjective in.

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Large part, due to being a commissioner judgment process and so staff will create a cover sheet for each application. That highlights where it fits in terms of priorities.

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And then calls out certain strengths of the project, as well as any areas.

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And that might include previous performance on funded funding that might.

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What should be funded.

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In terms of scoring a grant application and then what commissioners will do is work independently to whether it's a dollar amount, yes or no or whatever, and then staff will take that.

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It's recommended we have gone. We have experimented with the scoring style process in the past, but unless we have the discipline to stick with it,.

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Know in part of it is I would think it would be very challenging. You just score these in a way like if your thing about cousing, it's a little different. It's like okay, we know kind of what the goal is here, make as much affordable housing as possible. All right who can who can deliver the most of that for set amount of money and when you're looking at you know hey, do we want to continue to support the downtown Association's annual good, vs.

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Appalachian sustainable agriculture like how do you score I mean they're just doing such fundamentally different things, I think it does kind of come down to some things that the Commission things you know.

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An important thing- and we should be part of it but scoring it would seem very challenging.

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From making these similar to yours in terms of anticipating sort of flat, consistent levels last year and also big-picture, seeing us moving some of these investments into strategic priority areas so for the housing early childhood education, for instance,.

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Far exactly yeah so see you know, as we look at the totality of how it works. Getting funded. That's kind of the picture I see I, don't agree that mm-hmm. It doesn't make sense to have folks do the presentation necessarily this year, but I would love to hear from staff ideas as we think about next year, so that we don't kind of find ourselves in the same position.

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We say gosh, we don't like our gosh, looks great, had a better system here and if there's input that we hoped welcome, commission and thinking that through maybe we could do some focus work on that, but it feels like you've been exciting to revamp this process in some ways so that there was more clarity and more process.

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You know a few thoughts. I mean some of these.

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Some of these are organizations that we have supported fairly consistently for a while, you know, and so you know, one thought would be to maybe think about you know, there's just certain organizations not to say they're, just a shirt, permanent funding that maybe we do want to look at doing some multi-year funding, even though we can't legally bind future commissions, but for the ones that we sort of anticipate, there's likely to be support or look at. You know thinking about multi-year arrangements so that we don't sort of spend so much of our staffs time.

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So much of our time, thinking about stuff, that's probably likely going to be replicated based on how we've done in the past and that would that would narrow down the list of I mean that would that would a lot of the groups on there would now be potentially in that pod and then, in that.

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You know there would be some process to maybe we would say we're. Gonna have limited funding for new initiatives in the future and we have a commission subcommittee or something to kind of focus on that, and so it doesn't kind of burn up. You know the entire Commission's time. Looking at you step it up, I mean I, don't I, don't feel right to saying we mean we won't even consider something. There might be some great idea here that we need to make sure we can hear it.

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But maybe we have you know a subset of the Commission to take a look at new applications or something like that.

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Some criteria, the scoring whatever matrix you will like this thing back to you, we can do that when we bring in a packet with all the details of the applications, we can bring that back from their criteria. Principle ages back bring whatever performance they have done in the past, how they're doing in the community. We can bring that back to you this year and the next year. We can look at multi-year funding a different process of how we can do this differently. Make sure that the appropriate.

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So I apologize for being late, but kind of to get my comments pretty good, so I'm gonna try to get through about three things. Myself, brownie and Mike have just been doing this for six years it has been in Old Salem every you know. Every line.

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The unknown I don't like to use the term political, but there are people that know I mean they're. They identify with certain things. They know certain groups and not everybody does, and so sometimes you know, support has gravitated to those areas and I'm not saying they don't perform, but my fault would be, and has been for several years- is that there should be a certain amount of money associated with this. There should be certain matrix-matrix, a certain matrix. There should be certain things.

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We should have performance reviews on these now some of them will fall out into little small things that you may they don't have a staff. They don't have the time they don't have the people they're just asking for a small grant and that.

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Know at some point of time, we've got to handle those differently.

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I, don't think that if they're new, just because they're new that they get booted out of the process, I think they should ask because someone they come along that can they can do that, particularly and someone that's been doing it for ten years, and just because someone we we have no supporting someone for ten years, doesn't mean we support them and they laugh because they have to they have to perform, and they should be able to do these things better than we can do it in-house, because that's why we're supporting and I don't like the commissioners scoring system.

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You know, because it's actually unfair to some commissioners that are not familiar with certain people, so it should be more collective. It should be more based on our dollar amount. We should have a matrix.

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We should have goals.

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And matrixes coming from county manager and staff, which will be driven by community input because we'll give the input you know to whoever's, you know putting this together, but I don't want to. You know, turn away. You know new people, because you know they could be much more efficient at delivering the services plus I'm a fan of Chow Chow. So I got to hear what Chow Chow spouts, so the all country people will get that so.

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Of where I'm here you know the way we've done in the past and kind of I mean it's it's okay, I mean you know, I mean how they talk about somebody. We may know somebody you know. I may give him my opinion. He gives me his opinion, which is fine and helpful because we are representing in our constituents, but it shouldn't it shouldn't, even though I think.

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Staff would be excited, bring.

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Clarity and transparency well.

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It's got a rate, it's got a reach, it's got a gap in the Canada, I mean this can't be just you know, you know my little community and nobody else I mean we should be seeking out to make sure that were covered. You know the Swannanoa south slope and you know and Leicester or whatever it is. We should be covering. You know, there's areas with services, how.

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Far, can we get in terms of coming up with the structure that.

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Say one more thing about pastures: if y'all believe that brown said I wet.

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My show up yeah, that's very good, so I.

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Don't have an opinion and I don't have a problem. Listen to all.

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Give their three-minute speech, but that's me what.

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We're asking for is two things. One is come up with the structure of the shortened one for this year, what we can bring it together, but more important than that long term. Let's work on, hopefully a solution to this makes you. Where we'll have a process. Well know it's an. We can get it out to everybody and it'll work, because I'll tell you. This is my third time and going through the first two. They were too darn political I mean that's all it was. You know whoever comes and makes the most noise.

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It's the most money when you boil it.

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I think the staff.

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The other thing too, is you know with our new county manager, and it wouldn't you know, bother me, you know if you said you got one point: eight five million or you got two point three six million. You know and then I.

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A 600-pound for.

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Whatever it is, that's what we thought about you. Would you back up the housing? Okay, all right, you're, gonna, get sorry.

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Know they're there there is a number that works in our budget. I, don't know what that number is I mean.

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Knows what that number is it works.

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Here's right here we're not gonna we're not gonna, do interviews with every group this year, you're not just.

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For it, I appreciate that, but I haven't heard anybody else speak up for that doing the 3-minute interviews with it. So.

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Sounds like that's we're not gonna do that this year, right y'all are gonna. Give us all the information on all the applications.

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Yeah so I guess just like we. It sounds like there's general support for funding at similar levels to last year, so.

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Just but if we're not gonna, do the interviews.

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Just I guess I, like those questions like how are we gonna analyze, all these new applications, our people just gonna, agree to kind of voluntarily kind of go, read that information and then, if there's something that really sparks interest, that it's going to be sort of up to commissioners, to kind of you know kind of elevate, those and say hey. This is this is something we should really take. A look at work, there's something that the staff fine.

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You know particularly compelling debt that it's gonna be one of those two processes that sort of you know kind of brings and bring it to digital.

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Bring you back the matrix, how we support it and give you some recommendations and you can add takeaway subtractor it all out. You wanna at least give you a starting point to work from and.

K

In that I would I would find it helpful if we can at least flag proposals that are aligned with other strategic forces just Sewer around control. Just as a former work, a thriving, diverse workforce.

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Just and you'll see anything that's aligned not on there, but yeah you'll see what strategic priority the lines.

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That's just a column that doesn't doesn't necessarily mean either. You won't support me on more than someone else. It provides. A great service doesn't follow directly those priorities still gotta find out watch out Joey, you might know what it is like. It's.

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A food festival that's been launched by a bunch of local restauranteurs features.

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Over the years we've tried to get, you know, I keep saying you know these nonprofits, where once it did, a really good job could perform the services less than we could perform him in-house, and then we we wouldn't do this with those we would expend taxpayer dollars and move them into the budget. So we're not fooling with this. No, it becomes a smaller project and they've even a much much smaller amount.

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Would be good? No, you know with her new manager is the ones that we have done that with how are they doing? You know an objective review of.

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Our manager and staff, you know, how are they.

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Have an early childhood education committee and we have the affordable housing for these concerned. They said any any project stack all within those categories, we'll go through those entities for discussion, along with any other funding that might be allocated in Venice arenas and.

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We made that effective for proposals.

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For another hundred twenty thousand.

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I can explain the context on that.

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Was 204 this card here, two hundred and thirty thousand dollars, ish they're scaling back how much Health and Human Services is gonna purchase from Vista legal services, so in order to hopefully retain that same level of funding, they've come in through the grant process, with the request for different.

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Means Health and Human Services is continuing to purchase about $100,000 worth of legal services for their clients through that organization and in order to organizationally, make up the difference and keep the general civil.

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That's the kind of per project information that we will put on the cover.

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The department is going back.

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A really good question and I'm a fan of a lot of things that they do, but just because they have a con, they have a contract with the counties and then the county decides that we're not going to fund all of that contract because they don't have an either they're, not not meeting the inner requirements. Whatever then ok, well, we'll just come over here and ask that's what we're trying to avoid and so I think you know I think you know that sort of preaching to the choir, but at the same time they got it.

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They got probably.

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Have to have a mechanism to.

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Ask for it, but, as commissioner fryer said, I tend to agree. That is not necessarily new I.

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If we are going to provide staff recommendations.

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Well, I think anytime, we bring something up, and this is the first time.

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We've done this.

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We're probably.

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Get used to you know the fact that this is what's going to happen. We're going to we're gonna talk about yeah I mean we're gonna discuss it, you know if we get through all of it. I guess we didn't know it, but you know this is.

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The time that we have an option.

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To discuss it, this is when we're gonna have to bring up our concerns so that his staff goes in the direction and they come back. We don't have to go that way again.

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K

Bigger picture, maybe when we get information back because so, if you all are, maybe you can also flag the other relationships that the county has for that entity yeah. So a BTEC, for instance, I see in here also.

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Hey I'm sorry, this is my last anything to say about that. Can we just make sure when we do our budget when we do our budget I do think that it is very important that we're really open about how the organization's get funded through departments so.

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Can we make.

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Sure that that's all really you know whatever, but.

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We make sure that that's really clear.

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Because I mean.

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Just to kind of stay the obvious: what all these organizations.

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Want is to not go through this process, they want to work with staff and just get their money to lie down in a budget, and fur and I would want the exact same. It's.

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A lot to do right and.

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It's fun, but the groups that go through this process. You know we spend a lot of time kind of wrestling with this stuff and I mean, and until the day comes when we decide we're just gonna, fully delegate this to staff, which there are some arguments for I'm personally, not there. Yes, I think that there's some benefit to kind of wrestling with this stuff in a really open way, but I just want us to be really transparent about the projects and nonprofit groups that do get funded to do departments through contracts, because.

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It's in a way, it's.

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Really not so different, it's just that. It's just that part of how it works in the budget and the other part is here so alright I'll show those hey Kim.

L

So in your packet, you should have the next document a memo from me and so.

D

We talked about Lamar a lot.

L

Over the past year and a half we're sort of approaching kind of the next page.

L

And so to do that, we're asking that you call a public hearing for April 2nd and during that public hearing, just like any other economic development agreement, you would vote formally on the agreement that we present to you in order to call a public hearing in April 2nd. We have to do a notice of public hearing which requires ten days notice.

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So basically we're telling you today or do that if you're in agreement, so we would issue the notice in the next couple days that way we hit that 10-day window and then we move forward with the April 2nd public hearing so real quickly. We'll spend much time just in terms of background I've presented to you on Linamar on number of occasions. The story hasn't changed and principle with the company on an actual agreement that my crew and I worked on story here is: we've got an agreement from 2011 and 2014.

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We bring those up to a single, consolidated and modified agreement. That agreement has no new incentives. It has no new capital targets, it has no new jobs markets. It maintains everything at the same as the original agreement. The only exception is that we're extending the time off so we're giving a little more a couple more years to hit their targets.

L

The reason we're giving them more time is because do those economic impacts related to Caterpillar, leaving Linamar has missed some other targets with us, and that was publicized last year and we deferred a 1.5 million dollar payment to the formula and a commissioner meeting giving them the opportunity to get caught back up. If you heard them on the radio, there you've got a number of advertisements taking their jobs, so it seems a terrible.

L

We have been a couple lines. It's a great one. It's communication through.

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It's important employer.

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April 2nd, we will.

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Have leadership from Linamar at the meeting, just like any other public hearing, so you'll get an opportunity in that meeting to lose them if you like, the business model have been forward for any questions on the agreement, though myself.

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Further be your best upon contact and.

C

Just remind everybody, I think the other reason they didn't miss the targets were, you know we worked hard with them and with the progress energy to try to get that a new foundry.

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On the site he just wouldn't fit mainly because the railroad configuration the railroad right-of-way. So that's what that structure.

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And I understand it. Another function of this meeting is to help you have a heads up and time to consider items that are gonna be on the next.

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Second, the East Haven apartments funding that was approved by the Board of Commissioners February 5th, will be coming back to the Board of Commissioners in the form of a contract.

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As a reminder that overall project creates 95 units of housing, the most of the components of the loan, 2.2 million dollars were approved as part of including a 20-year repayment term and 0% interest payments throughout the course of that 20 years.

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Extending the period of affordability from 30 years to the full physical.

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There is one item left for consideration in terms of the structure of that agreement and that's the disbursement schedule. That's the how the timeframe of the way we paid county funds that 2 million dollars out from the county to mountain housing staff at the county has been working with mountain housing, opportunities to identify original requests and.

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This current here.

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And likely that disbursement schedule is part of the overall contract.

I

First time, first meeting of the new committee, so there's still some things that we.

A

Do you anticipate that in to the Commission back on this in two weeks from now, all.

D

A

Do we anticipate would have actually have like the loan.

J

A

Prepared by them, yes, all.

I

C

Well, we got to draft the boat deed of trust and get it over to in which you seem to be fairly settled on this agreement. I.

F

Don't know that we need to get in into it today, but there was. This was approved on a on a split vote, not because we didn't like the project or it's going this or we just didn't like a long process. We discussed coming up with a better way to do that, so I just want to put that out there for the new you know county manager and the staff, and that we don't let that you know are that we and we put some into it and make that happen.

F

So we don't get into the situation that we we do that. For me, the.

I

Staff has been working hard to provide information that can be.

I

Cross-Functional department so planning legal finance, budget performance management, strategic partnerships.

I

This particular project, as well as those other two that you've heard some mention of that are in cute.

E

I'm here to talk about this is also an item- that's not in your packet, but something that will be coming before you I think in the next couple of weeks, but we've received a bunch of grants were that they're funding, some of the missions I'm in the county and these these grant funded positions are going to last for approximately two years. Our personnel ordinance is relatively silent.

E

It's how we treat grant funded employees so, but we are going to be bringing before you as a policy as to how the county will treat grant funding employees in terms of what benefits will they receive.

E

You know whether they're, if they're, not well employee and basically making sure that there's no conflicts between the so that the employee is narrow, what they're getting into you when accepting the job and also hopefully to to retain them. So you know we're, and the plan is to give them basically full benefits like we would a county employee, such as health care, which we'd have to anyways under the Affordable Health Care Act, for anybody that works more than 30 hours a week.

E

We'd have to get health insurance anyways, you know we'll also be giving them time off. Annual leave balances they'll be able to participate. The 401k and I'll be able to participate in the state retirement. So that's, basically sort of an overview will have a distinct policy for you to vote on, but that's pretty much the highlights of it.

B

F

Filth, intrusion.

E

Yes, all the benefits, it's my understanding that all the benefits will be from you, but when their ma employees I believe it's fine, six six so.

G

If they're grant-funded, Oh.

A

Is there's just somehow there's a recognition that like when the grant funds are gone, there's no guarantee that you'll be right.

E

Right, let's we're.

A

Going to spire unless we make a deliberate decision to hire them and things right.

E

Yes, exactly yes, so there would be an at-will employee. That's that's one of the important things to differentiate between a regular employee who has property interests in their job versus a grant-funded employee. Doesn't what.

K

Are the grants, or at least one or two topics, safety.

I

And justice challenge through the MacArthur Foundation included quite have been a funding that is going into community partner organizations, but there are some functions that are services.

C

Msd and Duke Energy, also PS NC voltage doubt before easing agreements across county property. Yes, MSD has four years had an existing line across the western boundary of the Ferry Road property. We also have a pump station down their necks in River. The line goes under the river then, along that way, it's all the Faro. It turns out that there's there's a there's. The map back there you'll see the green line there to shoot. It hits the county property in three locations, and the real purpose of this is to abandon you.

C

You remember the complicated history of this parcel of being County property, Henderson, County, property, part of the water agreement. So.

F

There was various.

C

Easements for this MSD in process that needs to abandon those and then dedicate this easement agreement on an ass built location. So it's nothing new is just as built and we did get approval of the party that carnita holdings, which has they offer the purchasing contract and we're still trying to sell that to them. Their options run out toward the end of June, but they're still in play.

C

They may be trying to shop that property to us just as a rule aside with their interest and approvals they've gotten from the city, but they've agreed to the location.

C

Construction plans, the Duke Energy progress out of the bank, Creek area they're working to put in underground utilities out there because of all the limbs and trees and Falls that had power disruptions. So there they've been working for some time, there's also an image back booklet, which is just basically a GIS. It shows from do they look dry and that's the community places to the club. They want to go underground. Existing service.

C

Drive over this easement, they can and they're making make sure, verified and memorialize that we're gonna use that and still access and drive over and also.

C

So those are the two that will be ready, assuming I get a letter from.

C

April, 2nd and there's no notice.

D

C

For some reason under easily, even though it's really it's a grant of property right, there's no 10 day notice before after the board disapproves that are.

J

To board members, this is just more of an update at the last three.

J

Districts, I do be an unfortunate legal posting with the citizen times. That's why it's not many here tonight it be placed on the April, the second agenda.

J

So basically we just wanted to clarify one thing: we did talk to legal and sort of clarified that you know if they're a couple you brought up, what can we make a change to some of the finish materials being proposed? Was wood and we'd be happy? You guys so direct us to to make that change? We part of your public hearing and we can certainly facilitate that.

J

So we just wanted to update you on that and we will be providing a couple PowerPoint slides and help us sort of envision what the finished materials will look like.

J

F

Just more information forward that concern came for myself that you know we want to make sure that when this was finished, that the housing fit within the community and they had a permanent foundation under what is not sure that it had finished material. That was masonry, and so that's why we rested that. That change hope. You don't hear me. Okay, my voices shop Benigni. Oh that's! Just making sure that the finished product is fantastic and those are.

J

The main points of foundation finished materials, multi sectional and the day of 1976.

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A

I wonder if just there might be any kind of comments or thoughts from commissioners or staff about just this meeting that think none. This is you know the first time we've done this and I I, like it and I. Think it's useful can I just go through these things. Have some informal discussion any feedback from commissioners about or staff about any kind of aspect of this, since we do want to start making this kind of more regular with her I.

K

Also like this, a lot today appreciate the work staff did.

K

um What in the future of the three by threes I've liked is that it's also a place where people can bring up questions and ideas more spontaneously or sort of things that have been on the backburner that are coming back up so I, just wonder if we can build in some process and and if that can happen, spontaneously Romney's like hey I, want about this today or if we need to have a formal process around a commissioner saying these are items I just like follow up information on.

A

Certainly um it's a baby, maybe at the beginning of the meeting, we'll have kind of uh you. Maybe you could kind of. We could have a review of what's planned to be discussed and then, if there's additional things folks want to bring up, they could say: okay, here's some! You know we have time, because there are other meetings that start after this one. So in some cases we may be time constraint, but if there's time that folks can say hey can we add this this or this to the agenda as we go through.

G

A

Know the another question I've kind of had as we as thinking about there was a thing about these meetings. Is you know? Sometimes we do we put items on the agenda that are not intended to be better known right away. That kind of get an issue out there. You know kind of get some initial discussion about that.

A

Obviously we're not going to vote on any issues in these meetings, but this could also be a place where, if you know, in addition to like all the staff information, we just got, commissioners have ideas they want to put forward or initial discussion.

A

This could be a place to do that as well, not to say we you can also do it at a regular meeting. I mean there's so I. Don't think we would want to limit them to this meeting, but this does provide an additional space for sort of commissioners.

D

To bring them issues.

A

That you want to the one thing.

F

About housing and then I got to speak, and then we had to turn around and go back into.

D

Closed session with.

F

Our attorney- that's not respectful.

F

Anybody toward the end.

F

D

Need our business.

F

First, they can bring their business last.

A

Do you mean that there's a where it gets on the agenda far.

F

As you know, I've seen our people staff stuck all the way at the bottom, though,.

L

He's telling us that's your timeout.

F

Staff, you know if they've got, to make a presentation put that in front, so that they're.

H

Not sitting area, though, are eating waiting are pigeons.

F

In front of the people, it's just won't come forward or speak about what they want.

F

Then we had to leave the room so there's actually people that.

D

Live you know we.

C

F

We should have just did.

A

Okay, yeah I mean, of course, the whole business. There's certain things that just kind of we do that we're that they're in.

F

We always, you know, I, think this happen eNOS. We.

A

Try to figure out how to get folks there's a lot of people in the room how to deal with stuff so that folks can go home or if there's a lot of staff. I mean I, agree that this thing should be try to try to take care of them as soon as we can so that we're not sitting there till late at night wherever but.

B

H

Don't want you.

A

Know an expensive a set.

D

Of attorneys sitting.

A

There for hours and hours to so sometimes we do need to take care of those things so that those folks can go to good things. They shouldn't.

G

The structure in hand you have you know the meeting set up is part of your official meeting policy. So if you want to change something and move something around on happy, you need to look at the policy.

A

You know the only other feedback I would have would be. um This episode is a little awkward. It's just kind of hard to see everybody I wonder if there might be some way to move items and around it's just set the tables up a little differently. So it's easier to see.

A

I, see folks on the wings specific, and you know if we are gonna do more at these meetings on, you know a regular basis where we, you know, we talked about some stuff sense of issues here then I anticipate we'll start getting more members of the public. Who will come to these meetings too and I think there's room unless it's something that's really going to pack the house I.

B

Think that's! Okay, a little.

A

Bit more about I think how all.

J

Right, well, everybody thanks! So much.

A

We're gonna get out of here a couple minutes early, so this one see a little.

B

Boy today, I asked him sent immediate code letters to acquire districts. Why don't a new right off commissary so for anyone that wants it right off of a bill, they need to come through a finance office now verses, one through ms-office. So.

H

D

H

Right out today,.

B

To all the Chiefs of all the districts, I just want you to be what in case you get it the feedback from any cheese. That's what we did. Okay,.

A

Very good thanks.