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From YouTube: Commissioners' Regular Meeting (March 16, 2021)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for March 16, 2021. To view the meeting agenda, future meeting agenda, or to sign up for future public comments, you can visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
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F
Hey
tina,
you're
unmuted.
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C
C
I
didn't
know
what
it
was
like
to
live
in
fear
until
I
came
out
a
few
years
ago,
while
my
family
and
work
colleagues
stood
by
me,
the
rest
of
the
world
did
not
each
day
I'd
go
to
work,
uncertain
that
I
would
return
home.
Pedestrians
were
asked
me
in
broad
daylight
construction
workers.
Cat
called
after
me
store
clerks,
refused
me
service.
One
gas
station
attendant
wanted
to
disembowel
me
another
to
bed
me.
C
I
lived
in
constant
fear.
It
wasn't
these
individuals.
It
was
the
fear
that
for
the
first
time
in
my
life,
if
someone
did
attack
me,
no
one
would
come
to
my
aid.
Would
a
nearby
policeman
step
in
to
protect
me.
Would
he
lend
his
boot
to
my
face,
because
there
were
no
laws
like
this
ordinance
nor
leaders
like
you,
I
could
never
assume
safety
outside
my
home.
C
My
wife,
mary
lived
in
fear
too.
I
often
returned
home
to
find
mary
sobbing
she'd
spent
the
day
worrying
that
the
next
phone
call
would
come
from
a
morgue
and
I'm
one
of
the
lucky
ones.
I've
many
friends
who
have
lost
their
housing,
their
jobs,
friends,
have
been
beaten,
harassed
and
denied
simple
things
like
food
friends
who
flinch
every
time
they
enter
a
public
space.
C
You
too
would
live
in
fear
if
you
could
not
take
it
for
granted
that
the
people
and
institutions
in
power
were
committed
to
protecting
your
ability
to
live.
Before
I
moved
to
asheville,
I
spent
35
years
consulting
two
and
managing
corporations
all
over
the
country.
I
helped
some
to
lower
costs,
fight
off
imports
avoid
bankruptcy.
I
helped
others
to
improve.
Customer
service
enter
new
markets,
create
new
ventures.
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C
H
H
H
H
H
D
D
In
particular,
our
members
of
the
lgbtq
committee
community
have
experienced
discrimination
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
and
it's
time
for
that,
to
stop
also
we're
seeing
more
and
more
discrimination
against
people
based
on
national
origin
and
their
immigration
status
or
perceived
immigration
status.
So
it's
time
for
buncombe
county
to
step
up
and
do
the
right
thing
and
pass
this
ordinance.
D
Fortunately,
the
prohibition
against
local
governments
passing
these
kinds
of
ordinance
has
now
expired.
No
thanks
to
our
general
assembly,
and
I
think
it's
now
time
to
step
up
and
pass
this
ordinance
and
make
sure
every
member
of
our
community
is
safe
and
respected
and
have
the
basic
rights
that
they
all
deserve.
So
please
pass
this
ordinance.
Thank.
I
Well,
hi
and
thank
you
for
providing
this
wonderful
opportunity,
I'm
judy
maddox,
I
live
in
leicester.
I
am
chair
of
our
local
western
north
carolina
sierra
club,
and
I
have
a
very
simple
message
following
everyone
before
me.
I
F
In
addition
to
the
egregious
bigotry
in
house
bill,
2
the
notorious
bathroom
bill,
there
were
multiple
issues
that
impacted
all
workers
in
north
carolina
house.
Bill
142
still
did
not
address
all
the
harmful
legislation
of
house
bill
2
and
has
maintained
harmful
impacts
on
the
people
and
our
economy
here
in
the
state
of
north
carolina.
F
So
with
the
sun
setting
of
parts
of
house
bill,
142
communities
across
north
carolina
have
an
opportunity
to
pass
lgbtq
plus
inclusive
non-discrimination,
non-discrimination,
ordinances
that
also
include
veteran
status,
pregnancy
status
and
natural
hair,
in
addition
to
ensuring
human
and
civil
rights
protections
for
our
residents
and
visitors,
regardless
of
who
they
are
or
who
they
love.
This
ordinance
is
a
step
in
taking
better
care
of
each
other
and
there
are
going
to
be
more
steps
ahead.
F
J
Hi
grant
millen
long
time,
asheville
resident
and
buncombe
residents,
I'm
a
honorably
discharged
veteran,
and
I
was
just
wondering
how
veterans
were
involved
in
the
non-discrimination
as
they're
mentioned,
and
I
get
it.
They
include
lgbtq,
folks
and
city
of
asheville,
at
least
their
equity
inclusion
policy
doesn't
actually
does
not
mention
lgbtq
folks
or
persons
with
disabilities.
J
J
If
you
don't
have
an
answer
to
how
you
engaged
with
persons
with
disabilities?
This
isn't
a
non-discrimination
policy
that
is
really
about
persons
with
disabilities,
and
I-
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
persons
with
disabilities
are
all
genders
races,
sexual
orientations
and
creeds,
and
I've
sent
the
commission
accounting
manager.
Several
action
items
about
pwds
persons
with
disabilities,
media
and
others
are
welcome
to
contact
me
at
grantmillen
gmail.com.
J
I
don't
have
any
paid
role
involving
pwds,
I'm
developing
a
non
nonprofit
that
may
include
a
program
for
pwds
and
pwds
are
just
one
area
of
my
strategic
innovation,
consultancy
practice
that
can
be
served,
one
population
that
can
be
served
by
my
practices
by
the
way
I
may
with
support,
I
may
rent
for
office
in
the
future,
a
non-discrimination
policy
with
no
enforcement.
Isn't
that
great-
and
I
mentioned
that
all
of
the
parties
in
this
nondiscrimination
policy
can
be
persons
with
disabilities.
J
With
disabilities
are
protected
class,
just
like
african
americans
lgbtq
folks,
according
to
the
us
department
of
justice
and
u.s
courts,
they're,
not
so
much
protected
class,
and
so
this
is
a
great
step,
but
I
just
want
everyone
to
notice
if
buncombe
county
is
really
going
to
do
something
about
discrimination
of
goods
against
employers
regarding
disability,
I
you
know
the
enforcement
part.
I
really
want
to
hear
you
all
have
a
real
discussion
about
persons
with
disabilities,
because
they're
huge
population
of
buncombe,
and
so
just
all
of
a
sudden,
mentioning
persons
with
disabilities.
J
K
Hello,
my
name
is
pepe
isabo.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak,
I'm
speaking
to
you
today
to
ask
that
the
buncombe
county
commission
require
a
signed
memorandum
of
understanding
with
asheville
city
schools
to
maintain
all
existing
classrooms
that
provide
early
childhood
education
as
a
condition
of
providing
funding.
K
It's
my
belief
that
we
cannot
close
our
district's
testing
achievement
and
opportunity
gaps
without
closing
our
preschool
access
gap.
This
means
expanding,
not
contracting
our
preschool
access
through
the
city
and
throughout
the
city
and
throughout
the
county.
I
cannot
express
how
grateful
I
am
to
the
buncombe
county
commission
for
prioritizing
access
to
quality,
preschool
education
and
establishing
the
early
childhood
education
and
development
fund.
K
These
families
have
not
been
informed
of
this
reduction
in
services
or
the
planned
relocations
in
the
count
of
nine
classrooms
to
be
dismantled.
I
am
including
seven
diverse,
year-round,
full-day
bus
line,
accessible
preschool
classrooms
in
the
asheville
primary
school
asheville
city
preschool
building
at
441,
haywood
road
plus
two
preschool
classrooms
called
fletcher
elementary.
K
Please
do
not
use
our
valuable
early
childhood
education
and
development
funds
to
subsidize
a
reduction
in
preschool
access.
Please
require
an
mou
to
preserve
our
amazing
north
carolina
five-star
rated
asheville
city
preschool
program.
Additional
notes
and
comments
have
already
been
emailed
to
the
commissioners.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
L
Got
it?
Okay,
I'm
sorry!
Thank
you
all
right.
My
name
is
lara
lustig.
I
am
from
west
asheville
and
I
am
a
parent
of
two
asheville
primary
students
and
a
senior
at
ashford
high,
I'm
coming
to
you
tonight,
because
I
have
a
lot
of
questions.
I'm
sitting
outside
the
school
board.
Building
right
now,
waiting
to
make
comment
at
a
hearing
to
close
asheville
primary
school
acs
has
put
out
a
study
that
has
a
lot
of
really
questionable
numbers
in
it,
and
I've
sent
a
copy
to
all
of
you.
L
Please
take
a
look
at
my
notes
on
that.
The
numbers
don't
add
up
they're
using
covid
numbers
to
say
that
our
enrollment
is
low
enough,
that
we
need
to
combine
schools.
It
doesn't
make
sense
they're
using
all
different
kinds
of
numbers
to
talk
about
what
needs
to
be
done
to
the
school.
But
the
number
that
I
know
is
200
000
and
critical
needs
will
get
us
through
another
year
and
we
need
that
year.
We
need
our
kids
to
come
back
to
normal.
We
need
them
to
be
back
in
their
classrooms.
L
We
need
them
to
move
past
this
coveted
time,
stressful
crisis
time
and
we
need
to
come
together.
We
need
to
make
some
really
good
decisions,
and
so
what
I'm
asking
you,
as
the
people
who
hold
the
money,
is
to
do
what
you
can
to
understand,
what's
really
happening
in
asheville
city
schools,
because,
like
I
said,
we
got
a
lot
of
questions.
L
I
want
to
say
for
one
thing
that
I
really
love:
susannah
smith,
the
director
of
the
preschool
I've
known
her
for
four
years
as
long
as
my
kids
have
been
there,
and
my
kids
did
acs
pre-k
for
the
summers,
I'm
real
familiar
with
their
program
and
I
love
them
and
they're
doing
amazing
things
there.
We
need
more
of
that,
not
less.
When
I
look
at
these
dpi
projections,
what
I
see
is
that
in
10
years
we
are
eliminating
capacity
for
10
preschool
classrooms.
L
I
think
partnerships
are
awesome.
I
think
they
need
to
be
transparent.
I
think
we
need
to
understand
what's
happening
in
a
really
concrete
way,
and
I
think
we
all
deserve
to
know
because
the
people
who
matter
here
are
our
kids
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
doing
and
the
money
we're
spending
is
serving
them.
So
please
hold
acs
accountable
and
make
sure
that
they
are
focused
on
our
kids
too.
Thank
you.
M
Yes
good
evening,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
thank
you.
Yes,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
wanted
to
speak
specifically
on
the
asheville
city,
schools,
2.7
million
dollar,
request
from
the
buncombe
county
early
childhood
education
and
development
fund,
which
is
yourself
first,
please.
Yes,
my
name
is
jensen
gelfon
and
I
live
in
west
asheville.
M
Yes,
and
I
am
the
husband
of
a
montessori
teacher,
beth
mayberry
at
the
asheville
primary
school,
and
so
I've
been
able
to
see
this
school
really
grow
and
change
the
lives
of
children
ever
since
it
opened
nearly
four
years
ago.
This
school
is
a
special
gem
in
western
north
carolina.
You
may
or
may
not
know
that
this
school
is
the
only
public
montessori
school
in
western
north
carolina.
This
is
the
only
school
in
western
north
carolina.
That's
providing
an
alternative,
montessori
education
to
people,
regardless
of
their
ability
to
pay.
M
M
The
plan
is
to
close
down
the
school
and
merge
it
with
a
traditional
school,
and
it's
murky
about
how
well
this
montessori
program
will
be
supported
going
forward
at
a
bare
minimum.
If
the
school
is
moved
out
of
its
current
building,
there
will
be
trauma
for
the
children
and
for
everybody
who
has
to
move
out
and
be
relocated
to
a
new
school,
and
if
that
were
happening,
they
would
no
longer
be
considered
a
full
school.
M
They
would
just
be
considered
a
program
of
hall
fletcher
and
inevitably
would
not
get
the
resources
that
they
get
now
as
a
fully
recognized
numbered
school.
So
I
think
that,
prior
to
releasing
this
budgetary
request
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
not
cutting
off
our
nose
despite
our
face
and
that
we're
ensuring
that
the
most
vulnerable
of
our
populations
and
the
most
vulnerable
of
our
schools
are
protected
before
providing
this
kind
of
money,
especially
when
we're
looking
at
potentially
lowering
the
total
number
of
preschool
slots
in
the
district.
M
G
G
G
N
Thank
you,
hello.
My
name
is
pam
renfronis,
I'm
from
fairview.
I
received
my
covet
vaccine
monday
march
8th
at
the
ab
tech
facility,
along
with
a
91
year
old
friend,
who
finally
received
hers
on
the
phone.
We
were
told
to
bring
our
insurance
card
once
there
we
were
given
a
form
to
fill
out.
We
were
asked
if
we
had
insurance
and
what
kind
we
even
asked
for
our
social
security
number
when
our
number
was
called.
We
met
with
a
worker
who
took
our
information
and
our
insurance
card
making
a
copy
of
the
letter.
N
We
asked
why
she
needed
the
card.
She
said
to
cover
administrative
seat.
She
did
not
ask
for
proof
of
identity.
Strange.
My
husband
had
his
shot
at
unc.
A
on
the
sixth
and
x
was
only
asked
for
id
as
well,
and
this
was
administered
by
mahek
or
mayheck,
whatever
you
call
it
friends
in
henderson,
county,
tennessee,
virginia
texas,
etc
were
not
asked
for
insurance
card.
This
started
to
bother
me
as
the
week
went
out
so
friday.
N
I
decided
to
find
out
if
our
insurance
companies
were
being
charged
could
not
get
anyone
at
the
health
department
or
the
county
office.
Since
signing
up
for
this
meeting,
I
got
through
to
billing
a
county
health
department
and
was
told
that
they
are
indeed
charging
medicare,
our
private
insurance
company
for
giving
the
vaccine
a
message
was
left
by
lamar
joiner
clerk
of
the
county
commission
office
saying
that
he
did
not
think
that
individuals
are
being
charged
well.
Insurance
is
being
charged.
N
This
seemed
wrong
to
me
and
that
the
taxpayers
are
getting
double
of
not
triple
bills.
Tax
dollars,
pay
for
the
vaccine,
our
money
either
pay
for
private
insurance
or
our
social
security,
which
pays
for
the
medicare
we
now
receive.
There
is
a
hundred
trillion
dollars
of
coveted
money
sitting
out
there
not
being
used.
This
is
exactly
what
that
money
should
be
used
for
not
paying
for
roads
and
art
museums,
nothing
is
free.
We
who
worked
paid
for
everything
in
this
country.
N
N
A
A
O
Good
evening,
commissioners,
thanks
for
your
time,
I'm
here
to
just
give
the
brief
announcement
that
election
services
now
has
two
more
new
certified
elections:
administrators
that
is
bria,
bailey
and
kevin
roberts.
They
couldn't
be
here
tonight,
but
they
are
watching.
A
O
O
This
certification
ensures
that
we
have
uniform
knowledge
across
our
staff
and
it's
a
way
to
convey
expertise
to
the
public.
Directors
are
required
to
get
the
certification,
but
staff
aren't
so
we're
going
above
and
beyond
in
that
area.
O
Adding
bria
and
kevin
to
the
mix
gives
our
team
six
certified
officials
and
our
goal
is
to
have
all
of
our
staff.
Have
that
certification
and
we're
working
towards
that
and
bria
and
kevin
congrats
again
to
you
and
thanks
for
your
hard
work.
A
All
right
karine!
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
update.
That's
great
news
and
we
appreciate
the
great
work
that
everyone
on
the
staff
and
all
the
volunteers
in
the
community
do
to
help
hold
efficient
and
air
elections
in
buncombe
county.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
P
P
So
I
would
just
like
to
start
off
by
thanking
you
guys
for
having
us
here
today
and
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
come
before
you
and
present
our
ag
facts.
Booklet
ahead
of
ag
day,
which
is
next
tuesday
march
23rd,
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
terry
wells
for
sponsoring
us
to
be
here.
So
just
had
a
couple
of
comments.
P
The
booklet
includes
some
quotes
from
some
of
our
elected
officials
and
some
of
our
farm
bureau
leaders-
and
I
put
just
a
few
ag
facts
in
there
and
some
of
those
are
u.s
facts.
Some
are
north
carolina,
facts
and
some
are
beckham
county
ag
facts
and
one
fact
that
I
really
find
amazing
when
I
stop
to
consider
the
actual
numbers
is
the
fact
it's
the
first
one
on
the
list
which
says
farm
and
ranch.
P
Families
comprise
less
than
two
percent
of
the
u.s
population
and
I
would
say
that
number
probably
decreases
every
year,
but
yet
we
continue
to
feed
the
world
with
that
number
decreasing
and
our
population
increasing
every
year.
I
think
it's
more
important
than
ever
to
preserve
our
farmland
and
that
I
would.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
guys
for
your
past
support
of
the
farmland
preservation
efforts
and
ask
that
you
continue
to
do
that
in
the
future.
P
I'd
also
like
to
thank
you
for
the
support
of
the
present
use
value
taxation,
which
is
very
important
to
farmers,
and
ask
also
for
your
continued
support
in
that
area.
Lots
of
times
this
might
make
the
difference
in
a
small
farm
being
able
to
continue
farming
versus
maybe
having
to
sell
their
land.
You
know
to
pay
their
taxes,
so
I
think
that's
a
very
important
program.
P
In
closing,
I
just
like
to
say
you
know
we
as
individuals.
We
depend
on
our
elected
officials
to
lead
and
guide.
You
know
our
county,
our
state
and
our
country.
We
depend
on
our
doctors
and
our
nurses
for
our
health
care
emergency
personnel
to
take
care
of
us.
We
depend
on
our
military
and
our
law
enforcement
to
protect
and
enforce
the
law.
We
depend
on
our
firemen
to
protect
our
property.
We
depend
on
our
teachers
and
our
educators.
P
A
A
All
right
next
up
we're
gonna
hear
from
the
western
north
carolina
regional
air
quality
board
and
joel
starrow.
The
chair
is
here
to
talk
to
us
about
what
the
board's
been
working
on
thanks
for
being
here,.
Q
Thanks
good
evening,
everyone
I'd
like
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
western
north
carolina
air
quality
agency
a
2020
year
in
review.
I'm
joel
storrow,
I'm
chair
of
the
agency
and
I'm
here
with
ashley
featherstone
our
director
and
like
to
start
with
who
we
are.
Q
Q
Q
Our
members,
we
have
a
five-member
board
myself,
carl
kuhn,
is
our
vice
chairman,
lana
cloninger,
evan
cuzo
and
gary
wisnip,
and
we've
we've
had
a
pretty
interesting
year
with
covid,
as
you
might
expect,
ashley's
gonna
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
how
that
all
worked
out,
but
we
do
have
a
new
mission
statement.
The
mission
of
the
western
north
carolina
regional
air
quality
agency
is
to
protect
and
monitor
the
area's
air
quality,
to
safeguard
the
public
health
and
the
environment.
Q
I've
lived
in
buncombe
county
since
the
80s
and
like
many
of
you,
if
not
all
of
you,
you
probably
remember
how
hazy
it
used
to
be
in
the
mountains.
It's
pretty
amazing
that
you
couldn't
see
very
much
at
all
in
the
summertime
and
since
that
time
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress,
I'm
very
proud
of
the
agency
and
and
its
accomplishments
ashley
and
her
staff
do
a
fantastic
job.
You'll
hear
more
about
that
here.
In
a
minute.
Q
We
also
have
an
advisory
committee
that
helps
us
on
various
topics
that
the
board
doesn't
have
time
to
to,
to
monitor
and
and
address
ashley's
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
Q
But
I'd
also
like
to
say
that
we're
completely
self-funded.
So
we
don't,
we
don't
get
any
any
subsidies
from
either
the
county
or
the
city
we
exist
and
and
and
our
accomplishments
are
based
on
the
permit
fees
we
get
from
the
from
the
the
users,
the
the
industrial
users
and
and
some
of
the
other
commercial
entities.
We
get
a
little
bit
from
the
nc
gas
tax
and
we
also
get
some
grants
from
the
environmental
protection
agency.
Q
R
Thanks
joel
good
evening,
mr
chairman
and
commissioner
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
come,
talk
to
you
about
the
agency,
I'm
going
to
get
into
a
little
bit
more
of
the
details
about
what
we
do
and
air
pollution
in
western
north
carolina.
We
do
have
some
unique
challenges
here
because
of
our
mountain
valley,
topography.
R
We
sometimes
do
get
temperature
inversions,
especially
on
cold
nights,
when
air
can
get
trapped
down
low
to
the
ground
and
anything
that
any
pollution
that
we
are
generating
stays
with
us.
So
we
get
odor
complaints
and
notice
these
conditions
a
lot
in
the
wintertime
and
typically
the
inversions
break
about
mid-morning.
R
We
started
out
in
1947
as
a
city
of
asheville
smoke
abatement
program
and
back
around
that
time,
some
of
the
larger
cities
all
across
the
nation
had
smoke
abatement
programs
because
of
the
uncontrolled
coal
burning
and
the
issues
caused
by
pollution
associated
with
that,
then,
in
1967
we
became
a
multi-county
agency.
We
actually
had
the
u.s
public
health
service.
This
was
before
the
epa
was
formed,
come
and
do
a
study
here
in
the
mountains,
and
they
did
studies
all
over
the
country
where
local
leaders
were
concerned
about
air
pollution.
R
So
our
main
duties
here
are
we're
one
of
three
certified
local
air
pollution
programs.
Here
in
north
carolina,
I
like
to
explain
it
that
the
clean
air
act
allows
local
governments
to
have
their
own
programs
regulatory
programs,
but
only
as
long
as
they
are
at
least
astringent
as
a
state
that
they
operate
within.
R
So
we
do
operate.
The
air
pollution
monitoring
networks
for
ground
level,
ozone
and
fine
particles
here
in
buncombe
county
also
participated
with
a
sulfur
dioxide
monitor
that
was
cited
near
the
duke
plant
to
monitor
the
air
when
they
were
still
burning
coal,
we're
responsible
for
implementing
the
federal
state
and
local
rules.
So
we
have
a
permitting
program.
We
have
70
permitted
facilities,
industrial
sources
here
in
buncombe
county
that
have
air
quality
permits.
R
We
also
permit
area
sources.
Things
like
gas
stations
have
controls
to
reduce
the
hazardous
air
pollutants
like
benzene
and
the
air.
We
also
do
the
asbestos
removal,
demolition
and
renovation
permits
and
open
burning
and
dust,
and
I
didn't
mention
here
but
odor.
We
have
a
nuisance,
odor
rule
here
in
north
carolina
also,
so
we
respond
to
complaints
for
those
issues
and
we
do
education
and
outreach
here.
Pollution
prevention
projects
we've
successfully
implemented
some
grant
programs
to
retrofit
diesel
engines
like
school
buses
and
fire
engines.
R
We
have
a
clean
air
excellence
awards
program
which
we're
currently
taking
nominations
for
from
our
permitted
facilities
and
other
organizations
where
we
try
to
share
some
best
practices
and
get
some
recognition
for
these
pollution
prevention
projects
that
reduce
air
pollution,
including
greenhouse
gases
and
we're
members
of
our
local,
clean
air
campaign
and
clean
vehicles
coalition,
which
are
hosted
by
land
of
sky
regional
council
actually
working
on
putting
together
an
air
quality
course
that
might
be
targeted
to
local
governments,
elected
officials,
planning
staff.
It's
something
new
that
we're
exploring.
R
So
just
have
some
really
brief,
slides
I'll
go
through
this
quickly,
but,
as
you
probably
know,
air
quality
has
really
improved
a
lot
over
the
last
few
years.
This
is
our
ground
level.
Ozone
design
values
the
flat
bars
at
the
top
are
the
standards,
the
national
ambient
air
quality
standards.
So
you
can
see
those
change
over
time,
so
the
air
has
been
getting
cleaner
and
the
standards
have
been
getting
stricter
because,
as
more
health
data
is
collected,
we
find
health
effects
at
lower
levels.
So
we've
seen
good
improvement
there.
R
R
Visibility
on
the
20
most
impaired
days
have
improved
from
nine
miles
to
39
miles.
So
it's
really
important
because
we
know
people
like
to
come
here
to
see
clean
air
and
mountain
views,
and
this
is
directly
related
to
the
fine
particles
that
we
measure
that
are
very
important
for
public
health,
so
I've
just
got
a
couple
more
slides.
What's
new,
what's
going
on
at
air
pollution?
R
The
epa
at
the
end
of
last
year
designated
the
limestone
township
as
attaining
the
so2
standard.
That
was
three
years
worth
of
data
that
was
collected
when
they
were
still
wearing
coal,
as
required
to
demonstrate
compliance
and
on
a
more
internal
level.
We
are
modernizing
our
database
working
with
malcolm
county
I.t,
to
update
a
lot
of
our
data
management
programs,
and
this
will
enable
us
to
take
more
electronic
payments
from
our
regulated
community,
something
that
they've
been
asking
for.
R
And
financial
update,
as
joel
said,
we
are
100
self-funded
and
we
have
been
our
major
sources
of
revenue
are
epa
grants
and
our
permit
fees
from
our
industrial
and
commercial
sources.
To
a
lesser
extent,
we
do
get
a
fraction
of
the
north
carolina
gas
tax.
All
the
air
pollution
programs
in
the
state
get
a
portion
of
that,
so
our
fees
have
been
decreasing
over
time.
It's
great
news
for
air
quality.
The
emissions
are
down,
but
these
fee
programs
this
one,
we
call
the
title
v
permitting
program.
R
That's
for
the
largest
sources
of
air
pollution,
those
those
have
are
based
on
emissions
and
so
right
now,
all
across
the
nation.
Air
pollution
programs
are
redoing.
Their
fee
schedules
to
charge
more
for
things
like
complex
sources,
people
that
are,
you
know,
companies
that
are
subject
to
more
regulations
and
things
of
that
nature,
because
there's
really
no
less
work.
We
have
more
and
more
rules
to
implement,
but
you
know
we're
trying
to
adjust
to
pay
for
the
programs
and
our
epa
grant
funding.
It's
our
one
of
our
two
largest
sources
of
revenues.
R
It's
actually
been
level
since
2004,
which
is
about
16
percent
decrease
when
you
account
for
inflation.
So
we
have
a
dedicated
group
of
staff
that
they
do
a
fantastic
job.
We've
we're
down
over
the
last
few
years.
Our
staffing
levels
have
decreased,
but
everybody
pitches
in
and
does
a
great
job
and
and
gets
the
work
done
and
really
proud
of
our
team
we've
as
everybody
else
with
covid.
R
We've
had
to
make
a
lot
of
adjustments
when
we
go
out
to
do
our
inspections
at
these
industrial
facilities,
we're
having
to
do
a
separate
plan
for
each
one
to
minimize
everyone's
exposure,
but
it's
working
well
and
appreciate
the
support
from
the
county
next
steps
this
year.
Our
board
is
having
a
retreat
on
april,
the
15th
and
we're
going
to
be
updating
some
of
our
financial
plans
and
looking
at
our
permit
fees
to
see
about
making
some
adjustments
there.
It's
been
about
10
years
since
we've
adjusted
our
fees.
R
R
Also,
our
board
is
going
to
be
meeting
and
talking
about
our
advisory
committee
and
their
roles
and
responsibilities.
Other
projects
that
we
have
going
on
working
with
the
county's
environmental
and
energy
stewardship
team
on
projects
and
learning
more
about
the
environmental
justice
arena
with
some
work
groups
at
epa.
S
I've
got
a
question,
I'm
curious.
If
what
involvement
your
group
has
with
methane
emissions
in
general
and
specifically,
if
you
have
any
role
or
responsibility
with
with
landfills
and
methane
gases,
that
release
from
that.
R
So
with
the
lan,
there
are
federal
landfill
rules
that
do
address
methane.
There's
been
some
changes
in
those
and
we
have
actually
turned
the
the
buncombe
county.
Landfill
is
actually
regulated
by
the
north
carolina
division
of
air
quality
since
we're
buncombe
county
employees,
but
they
do
have
a
new
source
performance
standard
and
I
have
to
tell
you
I'd,
have
to
look
and
get
back
with
you
on
that,
because
there's
been
some
changes,
the
rule
was
originally
issued
and
then
there
were
changes.
I
do
know
that
the
buncombe
county
landfill
does
capture
their
methane
voluntarily.
R
A
Any
other
questions,
commissioners,
all
right,
ashley,
joel,
thank
you
both
for
being
here
and
for
your
work
with
the
air
quality
agency
in
our
region,
appreciate
it
so
much.
A
U
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
chance
to
speak
before
the
commissioners
tonight.
We
I
have
with
me
mr
don
sims,
who
is
the
director
of
maintenance
and
facilities
for
asheville
city
schools
and
tim
holcomb,
who
is
the
assistant
director
of
capital
construction
with
me
as
well,
and
we're
certainly
free
to
answer
or
they're
free
to
answer
any
questions
we
may
have
later
on
in
the
in
the
presentation.
U
I
want
to
begin,
first
of
all
by
saying
a
huge
thank
you
to
this
board
of
commission
and
the
school
capital
fund,
commission
that
you
helped
oversee
and
going
through
in
preparation
for
tonight
we're
looking
back
through
fiscal
year
16,
which
is
when
I
think
the
article
39
funds
were
put
together
to
to
be
a
part
of
that
school
capital
fund.
U
Those
have
been
vital
to
the
life
of
this
school
system
over
the
last
six
years,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
a
huge
thank
you,
and
I
know
that's
certainly
what
mr
sims,
mr
holcomb
as
well,
because
they
are,
they
are
in
those
buildings
every
day
and
that
140
million
certainly
makes
their
jobs
much
easier
and
much
better
and
our
children
to
have
a
much
safer
place
to
be,
and
so
thank
you
for
that.
U
First
of
all,
as
you
know,
dpi
requires
every
five
years
that
the
school
systems
turn
in
a
facility
study
to
dpi,
and
that
is
what
we
are
here
tonight
to
present
to
you,
as
it
requires
both
our
board
of
commissioners
and
yours
as
well
to
approve
that
five-year
plan
to
have
that
before
it
is
sent
off
to
dpi.
U
Now
I
will
let
you
know
that
we
also
in
master
city
schools.
We
do
a
capital
needs
assessment,
every
four
to
five
years
as
well.
In
addition
to
this
facility
needs
survey,
it
really
sort
of
puts
a
lot
of
the
data
into
those
surveys
that
capital
needs
assessment
is
going
to
be
conducted
for
our
school
system.
In
2022
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
taking
quotes
on
that
in
the
very
near
future,
but
that's
another
round
of
projects
that
we'll
be
looking
at
to
get
a
little
more
detail
into
what
we
are
dealing
with
tonight.
U
So
if
you
will
look
at
the
very
first
page
and
I
think
the
slide
presentation,
I
think
you
have
I'm
not
sure
if
you
just
have
a
packet
that
has
the
first
page
that
you're
referencing
with
that
facility
needs
survey.
It's
the
capacity
summary
and
plan
for
the
first
five
years,
the
next
five
years
and
obviously
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I'd
like
to
highlight
as
you're.
Looking
at
that
first
page,
the
first
would
be
that
the
overall
number
for
our
projection
does
go
down.
U
U
So
I
can
tell
you
that
the
projection
enrollments
for
next
school
year,
those
students
and
families
do
seem
to
be
returning.
I
think
we're
projected
to
be
over
4
500
for
next
year,
so
I
just
want
to
alert
you
to
that
that
that
does
not
reflect
that
number.
That
was
a
number
from
the
1920
end
of
adm
year,
plus
the
projections
that
were
being
based
on
when
we
were
doing
this
in
december
and
january.
U
At
that
time
there
had
been
a
the
most
recent
capital
needs
survey
and
dpi
study
had
projected
that
there
would
be
5
000
students
in
nashville
city
schools
by
2020,
now
the
obviously
that
that
number
was
not
hit.
Obviously,
the
pandemic
was
something
that
couldn't
be
foreseen
so
in
the
opening
of
asheville
primary
school
and
montford
north
star
academy.
U
Those
were
two
buildings
that
were
opened
in
the
seven
six
or
seventeen
year
fiscal
year
seventeen
year
those
were
buildings
that
were
opened
at
the
time,
thinking
that
that
number
of
five
thousand
students
in
2020
would
be
hit,
and
obviously
that
was
not
so.
U
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
is
a
noted
piece
and
certainly
I
think
don
and
tim
could
speak
to
those
projections,
because
I
do
think
that
was
a
grave,
worry
and
concern
back
in
2017
when
the
last
time
you
signed
off
on
on
one
of
these
studies,
the
other
would
be
obviously
the
closing
of
asheville
primary
school
and
you've
heard
tonight
about
from
some
of
those
families,
and
I'm
sure
you
have
some
questions
about
that
and
I
did
produce.
This
is
a
document
that
he
gave
to
families.
U
That
would
be
related
to
that
closing
because
I
do
think,
that's
obviously,
probably
the
most
stark
notice
that
you
would
see
on
that
capital
facility
needs
survey
that
we've
just
turned
in
another
part
of
the
first
page
there
that
I
would
like
for
you
to
note
as
well,
is
that
in
the
next
five
years
we
do
see
a
large
group
of
students
that
will
be
coming
to
the
asheville
high
silsa
campus
and
in
the
capacity
of
that
campus,
which
is
at
around
1500
when
you
put
the
but
the
two
schools
together
on
that
campus,
you
will
see
that
we
will
be
maxed
out
on
that
facility.
U
In
fact,
if
you
went
into
those
facility
that
facility
now,
you
would
find
that
they
are
already
at.
There
are
no
rooms
available
on
that
campus.
In
terms
of
trying
to
find
available
space,
they
have
spaced
themselves
out,
as
we
see
that
enrollment
roll
up
through
those
great
spans.
We
will
then
begin
to
worry
about
the
capacity
in
those
rooms.
U
U
A
I
have
one
initial
question,
so
the
on
the
first
slide,
the
adm
for
2019
and
2020
said
this
year
for
k212.
It's
42,
84,
4,
284,
students
correct.
But
obviously
this
has
been
a
very
unusual
year.
U
A
So
could
you
just
say
a
little
bit
more
about
where
was
it
the
year
before
you
get
a
sense
for
like
the.
U
Nearest
normal
yeah,
we
were
pretty
routinely
between
4,
400
and
43.50
for
about
four
years
three
to
four
years,
and
so
I
pretty
safely
could
say
that
we
believe
4
400
is
probably
a
number
that
we
feel
is
is
is
very
consistent.
Now
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
of
leeway
in
that
number
in
the
number
of
out
of
district
requests
that
we
get.
U
That's
a
number
that
we
can
control
we've
been
very
blessed
that
many
students
request
to
be
a
part
of
asheville
city
schools,
and
so
when
capacity
allows
we
are
able
to
bring
more
of
those
students
in,
and
so
that
is,
that
has
been
a
luxury
that
we've
had
now
at
the
same
time,
when
doing
so,
those
are
added
costs
that
we
bring
in
as
well
too.
So
it's
a
balancing
act,
but
typically
4
400
is
a
good
number
to
shoot
with.
U
V
E
V
U
V
V
E
U
In
this,
this
is
the
document
you
can
see
that
it's
dated
may
29
2020,
I
know
in
I
would
say,
probably
january,
of
2020
before
the
pandemic
even
hit.
We
had
a
couple
of
mold
issues
on
that
top
floor
and,
as
we
began
to
address
those
we
suddenly
realized.
This
was
a
much
larger
problem
than
we
had
budgeted
for
and
so
as
the
pandemic
hit
that
greatly
increased.
Our
worry
about
the
hvac
system
and
the.
E
U
So
we
appreciate
the
release
of
those
lottery
funds
to
help
us
address
that
in
a
very
quick
manner-
and
I
you
can
see
here
in
those
those
that
first
page
of
the
handout
that
I
gave
you
how
that
money
was
going
to
be
spent
on
the
on
the
front.
End
of
that
we
knew
those
had
to
be
abated
immediately.
The
trouble
with
the
mold
in
the
building-
that's
a
19.
I
think
it's
1954
or
55.
Building
that
that
we
were
dealing
with
is
that
you
don't
know
what
you
may
still
yet
uncover.
U
A
Before
we
leave
them
just
the
mold
remediation
project,
let's
can
we
just
stay
on
that
for
just
a
second,
because
I
had
a
question
too.
So
where
does
the
product?
Where
does
that
project
stand
currently,
so
there
was
240
000
of
the
lottery
funds,
correct.
A
For
that,
so
how
much
of
those
have
been
expended
and
just
where's
the
process?
You've
got
these
different
phases.
U
So
all
of
those
phases
that
first
hundred
and
ten
thousand
has
been
has
been
completed.
When
I
checked
with
our
cfo,
I
believe,
there's
still
somewhere
around
160
000,
still
left
of
that
240
that
we
were
able
to
get
through.
So
that's
still
there.
Now,
some
of
those
were
including
some
office
moves
that
we
had
to
do
because
office
spaces
had
to
be
vacated.
While
we
were
doing
that,
and
so
there
were
some
moves
there.
Okay,
there's
still
there's
still
a
good
part
portion
that
might
have.
I
think
it
was
240.
U
It's
basically,
it
came
in
quite
a
bit
under
budget.
It
did,
which
is
the
left
side
of
the
building,
but
basically,
if
you're
looking
at
the
building,
the
entire
left
side
was
really
what
we
were
having
to
worry
about
in
that
abatement.
The
preschool
side
was
not
one
that
at
that
moment
we
were
having
mold
issues
with
now.
There
are
several
issues
in
that
side
of
the
building
and-
and
I
can
go
into
those
here
in
a
minute,
but
that
that
portion
of
the
project
has
been
completed.
Okay,
thank.
U
Yeah,
as
far
as
the
air
quality
we've
had
that
building
tested,
I
would
say
three
times
over
the
last
year.
Does
that
sound
right
four
four
times
over
the
last
year?
Most
recently,
I
believe
in
october,
before
we
were
planning
on
coming
back
the
original
time
for
the
plan
b
in
november
and
and
it
it
passed
all
air
quality
standards
at
that
time.
What.
U
X
What
I
was
saying
is
on
the
structural
side.
We
haven't
seen
any
indication
that
would
cause
us
to
have
to
get
a
structural
engineer
to
evaluate
any
problems.
We
don't
have
any
masonry
cracks.
We
don't
have
anything
on
the
fascia.
We
don't
have
any
walls
any
floors
inside.
That's
unlevel,
the
typical
things
you
see.
Structurally,
we
haven't
seen
any
of
those.
V
X
X
Best
as
tile,
that's
in
the
building,
the
mold,
let's
go
back
to
the
mold.
We
had
canva
old
canvas,
covered
heat
and
air
lines.
So
what
had
happened
through
the
years?
It
sweated-
and
it
was
definitely
black
mold
the
element
hole
side
when
taking
the
piping
out
taking
the
insulation
off
we
found
out
the
piping
is
absolutely
shot,
so
we
did
re-insulate
this
time.
We
used
the
pvc
cover
to
keep
the
moisture
down
and
that
way
we
it
bought
us
some
time,
but
the
mechanical
side,
all
the
domestic
side
on
the
on
the
water.
X
There
is
some
issues
with
the
lead
paint,
those
kind
of
things
that
we
have
to
keep
abated
and
or
contained,
because
those
are
and
and
that
building
does
have
a
tremendous
amount
in
there,
because
it
is
a
50s
building.
E
U
Thing
too,
in
in
the
piece
that
I
gave
you
there
with
the
actual
primary
school
there's
two
items
there
in
particular
that'll
sort
of
talk
to
some
of
the
issues
that
we
were
most
worried
about
within
our
department.
U
These
were
from
our
outside
firm
that
pfa
that
had
come
in
to
do
an
outside
assessment
for
us,
and
these
are
2018
prices,
so
you
would
have
to
do
a
10
to
12
percent
increase
per
year,
but
they
had
said
that
there
were
at
least
two
items
there:
a
900,
000
abatement
envelope,
repair,
hot
water
system,
repair,
sewer
water
and
electric
lines
and
then
another
2.7
in
the
hvac
system,
including
that
hydroponic
piping.
That
don
was
speaking
to
a
second
ago.
U
A
Certainly,
what's
the
name
of
the
company
that
did
that
it's
pfa
right
and
what
type
of
firm
do
they
operate?
Is
it?
Is
it
engineering
or
architectural
or.
X
It's
it's
page
framing
architects.
It's
pfa
that
first,
initial
evaluation
that
we
had
of
this
building
is
when
the
school
capital
commission
was
formed
and
we
had
a
bunch
of
county
representative
who
was
with
us
through
that
whole
process
that
helped
with
that
so
he's
retired
now,
but
greg
israel.
A
Y
If
I
could
jump
in
with
a
few
questions,
jasmine
beach,
ferrara.
Thank
you
all.
I
also
chair
the
early
childhood
education
development
committee.
So
all
of
these
questions
are
very
germane
to
questions
before
us
feels
to
me,
like
there's,
really
two
primary
questions.
Y
U
Y
Figured
as
much
I
know
you
all
wouldn't
put
kids
in
a
building
that
wasn't
safe.
How
long
can
they
safely
stay
in
that
building
before
we
have
to
start
making
real
decisions
as
a
community?
Certainly
starting
with
you
all
about
whether
to
start
investing
in
some
of
these
larger
scale
renovations,
they
stay
there
through
the
duration
of
this
school
year.
Before
the
concern
level
gets
higher,
it
could
be
a
whole
nother
school
year.
U
And
you
will-
and
you
could
certainly
see
in
what
we
were
proposing
over
the
last
three
years
we
had
you
know,
spent
around
a
half
a
million
dollars
in
that
building
of
our
capitalist
funds
that
we
had
not
gone
to
the
capitol
commission
to
ask
for
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
did
not
necessarily
put
that
project
higher
on
the
list
was
because
it
did
not
have
not
a
large
number
of
students
in
that
building.
We
would
try
to
cover
those
costs
under
our
own
capital
funds
and
take
larger
projects
to
the
capital
fund
commission.
U
Y
What
is
the
best
home
for
the
preschool.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
potentially
relocating
it
to
asheville
housing
authority
sites,
which
might
be
exactly
the
best
idea
possible,
but
but
doing
that
in
a
way
that
if
we
pull
the
fire
bill
and
say
kids
need
to
be
evacuated
from
this
building
immediately.
Y
It
sets
off
a
chain
reaction
across
the
early
childhood
system
and
could
potentially
actually
displace
other
providers
and
actually
re
cut
the
overall
slots
in
the
community
which,
as
you
can
imagine,
is
a
huge
concern
as
we
actually
work
to
grow
the
system.
So
for
those
of
us
on
the
early
childhood
committee,
we
come
to
this
conversation
with
the
obviously
the
general
interest
in
wanting
to
think
about
all
of
the
capital
assets
of
the
school
district,
but
also
a
really
specific
and
really
time
sensitive.
Y
Concern
that
if,
in
fact,
the
primary
school
building
is
safe
today
and
and
wanting
to
really
understand
how
long
can
children
safely
be
in
that
building
before
there's
a
need
to
move
because
we're
at
this
decision
juncture,
we
have
to
either
invest
and
and
really
refurbish
this
building
and
make
it
a
safe,
healthy
place.
Or
we
need
to
move
forward
with
an
alternate
plan
and
that's
the
piece
that
it's
just
been
a
little
challenging
to
get
a
clear
answer
on.
Can
you
all
help
us.
X
X
If
we
completely
go
in
to
do
the
infrastructure
to
do
the
piping
to
do
the
hot
water
to
take
care
of
the
roof
on
the
gym
to
do
all
the
things
that
really
needs
to
be
done
to
make
that
building
our
hvac
systems
and
and
several
of
our
schools
are
very
antiquated,
but
in
this
one,
obviously
it's
extremely
antiquated,
like
I
was
telling
you
the
hvac
pipes
that
we
insulated,
they
could
actually
bust.
X
Right
now
I
mean,
and
then
we
would
have
an
issue,
obviously
of
trying
to
get
that
fixed.
We
get
into
a
situation
of
where,
when
this
pipe
is
so
thin,
we
can't
get
a
fix
on
it.
So
that's
pretty
much
where
we
are
on
the
mechanical
side
of
the
house
on
the
domestic
water,
it's
fed
from
two
or
three
different
sources.
X
We
have.
We
have
redone
one
of
the
gang
bathrooms,
but
other
than
that.
Every
restroom
needs
to
be
completely
redone:
domestic
plumbing
would
have
to
be
redone.
Sanitary
sewer
would
have
to
be
redone
the
window
glazing
in
that
building.
One
of
the
things
with
that,
some
of
those
that
glazing
even
has
asbestos
in
it.
So
there's
times
when
I
get
a
broken
wind,
I
have
to
have
it
tested
prior
to
my
glazer
going
over
and
fixing
the
window.
X
So
if,
if
what
you
would
have,
if
you
put
the
building
where
it
needs
to
be,
and
I'm
using
that
six
million
dollar
figure,
because
that's
what
the
architectural
firm
used,
you
would
have
the
walls
pretty
much
left
standing
and
then
you'd
have
to
build
everything
else
back
so,
and
that
does
nothing
to
any
type
of
site
development
and,
as
we
all
know,
I-26
is
coming
through.
Well,
that's
been
another
issue
with
this
building.
X
Commissioner
whiteside,
you
may
remember
those
first
initials.
I
can't
remember
when
you
left
their
board,
but
first
initial
talks
with
the
d.o.t.
They
were
going
to
do
some
sound
walls.
They
were
willing
to
do
some
things
to
the
building,
to
help
it
structurally
because
of
extra
traffic,
all
those
kind
of
things.
So
I
met
several
times
with
the
d.o.t
and
the
chairman
of
the
board.
At
that
time,
I've
been
here
eight
and
a
half
going
on
nine
years.
X
So
I
can't
expect
anything
prior
to
that,
but
as
far
as
the
building
itself
you're
talking
about
a
six
million
dollar
renovation,
then
what
happens
when
I-26
comes
in
the
two-way
ramp,
where
we
take
our
traffic
in
and
out
becomes
a
one-way.
X
Y
U
I
mean
that
you
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
of
a
catch-22
in
that
I
you
know.
Every
year
I
tell
my
maintenance
staff.
I
prepare
this
building
for
occupancy
for
this
next
year,
same
time,
we're
going
to
plan
and
do
our
budget
for
at
least
five
years
down
the
road
and
how
we're
planning.
Now
we
produce
a
budget
that
has
five
years
of
projections
of
how
to
keep
this
building
going.
So
could
I
keep
the
building
going
for
five
years?
U
And
the
other
thing
is
I,
I
am
a
absolute
huge
proponent
of
the
pre-k
program.
Susannah
smith
is
an
absolute
gem,
she's
wonderful,
don
maskel.
Before
her
we
have
been
very
blessed
to
have
those
two
people
and-
and
I
know
that
you
know
their
work,
so
I
know
how
valuable
that
their
work
is
to
the
system.
U
But
I
also
know
if
I
want
to
provide
a
clean,
healthy
building
so
that
when
I,
when
they're
going
to
spend
their
dollars,
they're
spending
instructionally
on
personnel
that
improve
the
program,
not
that
I'm
having
to
divert
it
to
make
sure
that
it's
just
an
average
building
that
it's
okay
to
be
in.
That's
not
good
enough,
and
so
I
think
they
deserve
better
than
that.
V
V
When
you
look,
if
you
take
a
compass
and
draw
a
three
mile
map
three
mile
circle,
you
would
get
probably
90
percent
of
your
disadvantaged
kids
in
that
circle.
Sure,
and
that's
what
I'm
looking
at
you
know
when
we
think
about
the
future,
and
when
you
talk
about
the
road
from
the
state,
I
would
think,
if
they're
going
to
damage
us
when
they
come
through
hey.
If
we
got
any
kind
of
legal
staff
at
the
city,
they
should
pay.
For
that
I
mean.
U
V
X
Will
structurally
affect
the
building,
so
we
have
some
glass
blocks
over
there.
Currently,
as
you
know
that
that
are
the
clear
glass
opaque
block,
that's
not
the
best
structural
thing
to
have
in
the
building.
So
when
we,
when
I-26
becomes
a
reality,
then
that
will
definitely
cause
cause
more
of
a
dynamic
vibration
in
that
building,
no
question.
U
X
U
U
Several
times
our
buses
have
great
difficulty
making
that
turn
in
if
there's
any
kind
of
parking
issue
on
that
side
over
there,
which
makes
it
difficult,
for
instance,
in
evacuating
that
building
quickly.
You
know
that's
an
issue,
so
we
don't
have
an
obvious
solution
to
the
argyle
issue
at
the
moment,
and
we've
worked
with
the
city
to
try
to
work
on
that,
but
there's
not
a
lot
of
just
not
a
lot
of
solutions.
We
can
come
up
with
that
moment
for
the
moment.
Right
now,.
X
X
So
you
only
answer
your
question
about
how
how
much
money
to
put
back
in
the
building,
and
that's
that
six
million
dollars
that
I'm
talking
about
that's,
that
is
what,
with
our
architectural
firms
with
their
professional
appraisers,
that
kind
of
stuff
that
is
renovation
of
inside
of
the
building.
But,
like
I
say,
that's,
no
side,
development
of
any
kind,
no
roads,
no
parking
lots,
no
argyles,
no
none
of
the
above.
So
I
just
wanted
to
answer
your
question.
U
And
I
certainly
we
welcome
those
questions
we
should
be
accountable
for
that.
We
appreciate
the
money
you've
given
we
certainly
appreciate
the
money
that
you
have
provided
for
our
pre-k
program.
I
know
susannah
smith
again
has
reiterated
that
and
when
she
puts
that
grant
request
into
the
early
childhood
committee
that
that
is,
it
would
not
be
done
lightly,
and-
and
so
certainly
we-
we
know
that
at
the
same
time,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
good
stewards
of
what
we're
doing
with
this
money,
capital-wise
and
so.
X
And
I
think
that's
where
we
make
that
decision,
it's
where
that
break-off
is.
You
know,
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
dr
casta
said
since
I've
been
here
for
the
last
eight
and
a
half
nine
years,
this
commission
and
past
commissioners
have
built
two
new
schools.
Through
the
capitol
school
committee,
we've
been
able
to
renovate
some
antiquated
hvac
systems
in
in
three
schools.
X
So
I
I
in
the
last
nine
years
I
just
I
wanted
to
tell
you
all
that
you
that
we
appreciate
the
funding
that
you
have
give
this
school
system.
B
Yes,
so
it's
my
understanding
that
a
public
hearing
is
being
held
concurrently
to
our
meeting
with
your
school
board
to
hear
the
public
comments
on
the
closure
of
aps.
That's
correct,
dr
cassidy:
can
you
give
us
any
idea
of
a
timeline
on
when
a
decision
will
be
made
after
the
public
comment
is
taken?
The
timing
of
that
was
really
unfortunate.
I'm
sorry.
You've
had
to
take
the
brunt
of
our
questions.
U
No,
that's
quite
I
mean
that's
quite
all
right
and
yes,
the
the
timing
was,
was
very
unfortunate,
working
with
our
legal
counsel,
chris
campbell.
Basically
in
enclosing
a
building,
there
has
to
be
a
facility
study
that
study
was
presented
tonight.
It
was
made
put
forth
on
the
public
for
them
to
be
able
to
see,
which
is
a
lot
of
the
information
that
you
may
see
here
and
some
other
pieces
that
have
been
added
for
previous
years.
U
Public
comment
tonight
will
be
taking
that
into
account
with
that
study,
and
then
it's
my
understanding.
The
the
board
will
have
to
make
a
decision
in
april
as
to
what
boy
will
do
in
in
formally
going
forward
dpi
to
steps
to
close
that
school
and
that
school
number,
okay.
A
Okay,
were
there
any
other?
Was
there
any
other?
We've
been
spending
some
time
on
this
item.
Sir
anything
else
you
wanted
to
share
with
us
just
overall
about
the
dpi.
U
None
that
I
can
think
of
other
than
just
you
know
again.
We
reiterate
how
much
we
appreciate
and
we
know
we
need
your
support
and
we
you've
always
provided
that,
and
so
we
don't
take
that
for
granted.
We
appreciate
the
chance
to
come
tonight
and
talk
to
you
about
it
and
so.
A
As
a
so
on
the
agenda,
we
had
the
you
know
this
report
that
we're
looking
at.
That's
the
only
item.
That's
on
the
agenda.
That's.
U
A
A
A
A
A
So
I
guess
I
guess
the
question
is
so:
there's
the
the
board
hasn't
had
a
chance
to
see
this.
I
could.
I
could
read
it.
You
know
I
mean
I
I
appreciate.
I
think
this
has
been
a
good
conversation.
We
need.
We
need
more
information
like
this.
I
think,
but
the
document
that
I
think
the
schools
want
us
to
sign.
A
A
We
understand
that
the
costs
have
been
standardized
to
statewide
averages
to
provide
uniform
comparisons,
and
then
that's
the
segment
that
the
I
believe
that
the
chair
of
the
school
board
signs
and
then
the
part
that
the
commission
would
review.
It
says
certification
of
board
of
commissioners.
A
The
bunking
county
board
of
commissioners
has
received
and
reviewed
a
copy
of
this
survey
prior
to
submission
to
the
state
board
of
education.
This
does
not
necessarily
constitute
endorsement
of,
or
commitment
to
fund
the
facility
needs
survey,
so
the
part
that's
relevant
to
us
is
a
little
bit
different
than
what
the
school
board
signs.
Let
me
just
reread
it
again:
certification
of
board
of
county
commissioners.
A
The
buncombe
county
board
of
commissioners
has
received
and
reviewed
a
copy
of
this
survey
prior
to
submission
to
the
state
board
of
education.
This
does
not
necessarily
constitute
endorsement
of,
or
commitment
to,
fund
the
facility
needs
survey
and
there's
a
position
for
the
county
chair
to
sign.
It
is
this
language,
the
standard
language
that
every
school
district
in
the
state
is
basically.
U
A
So
because
I
guess
you
know
you
know,
I
mean
I
personally
in
terms
of
like
endorsing
the
closure
of
the
primary
school
like.
I
would
not
be
prepared
to
do
that.
I'm
not
sure.
That's
the
right
decision,
if,
like
our
board,
is
being
asked
to
do
that.
I
wouldn't
vote
for
that
right
now
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
not
ultimately,
maybe
the
right
decision
in
the
long
run.
A
However,
I
think
this
language
is
not
asking
this
for
an
endorsement.
It's
basically
saying
that
we're
receiving
this
report
from
the
school
district,
so
it's
forbidden
to
look
at
this
yet
so
I
don't
know
if
the
commissioners
feel
like
they
won't
have
a
chance
to
look
at
this
or
review
this
before
taking
action
on
this
tonight,
because
it
wasn't
attached
as
a
document
on
the
agenda.
A
U
We
we
met
our
deadline
with
the
state
and
for
as
far
as
turning
in
the
the
state
has
this
they're
just
waiting
on
our
signature
pages,
and
we,
I
told
the
person
that's
over,
that
division,
that
there
could
be
some
time
in
waiting
to
get
those
signatures.
And
that's
fine,
particularly.
V
E
V
V
That's
the
you
know.
My
problem
is
not
shame
with
you,
but
I
have
a
serious
problem
with
the
way
the
superintendent
and
the
school
board
has
handled
this
because
it's
not
transparent
at
all,
and
it's
no
way
I
could.
I
would
endorse
this.
You
know
them
closing
the
primary
school
at
this
time.
You
know
as
a
taxpayer
who
lives
in
the
district.
V
U
I
I
certainly
understand
your
concerns
and-
and
I
hear
them
and
I'll
be
glad
to
convey
those
back.
I
I
just
want
to
to
reiterate
that
you.
W
U
You
know,
welcome
to
talk
about
that
and-
and
we
certainly
could
in
can-
and
I
know
again-
susannah
smith
and
dr
freeman.
You
know
at
some
point
we
need
to
have
those
people
at
the
table.
We
can
certainly
do
that.
A
So
it
sounds
like
we
need
to
so.
Let's
put
this,
I
would
do
we
need
a
motion
to
just
basically
extend
this
item
to
the
following
agenda
for
the
next
commission
meeting,
where
we
can
have
the
facility
report
as
well
as
this
document
placed
on
the
agenda,
so
everyone
has
a
chance
to
review
it.
You
know,
like
any
other.
E
A
Y
The
largest
providers
in
our
county
will
need
to
be
at
the
forefront
of
that.
And
we
will
all
need
to
be.
Have
our
arms
linked
and
be
shoulder
to
shoulder.
As
we
do
that.
So.
My
great
hope,
as
we
head
into
a
period
where
the
school
board
will
be
deliberating,
is
that
there
can
be
the
time
and
the
space
for
the
conversations
that
that
need
to
happen
to
ensure
that
all
current
classrooms
have
a
safe,
healthy
place
to
be.
Y
E
Y
Actually
takes
classrooms
offline
and,
and
and
I
I
think
we
as
a
community
need
to
make
sure
all
the
key
collaborators
are
at
the
table
so
that
we
can
land
the
plane
by
august
with
more
pre-k
classrooms
online
and
that's
very
possible.
So
I
appreciate
you
getting
in
there
with
us.
I
learned
a
lot.
Thank
you
for
sharing
expertise
around
the
structural
mechanical
issues
and
and
appreciate
the
opportunity
for
this
conversation
tonight.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
and
I'll
just
just
my
last
thoughts
are.
I
think
these
some
of
these
decisions
around
older
facilities
are
hard
right,
because
there
can
be
points
where
investing
additional
funds
into
older
buildings
could
be
better
invested
in
newer
facilities.
A
So
so
I
don't.
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
these
are
simple
questions.
I
think
they
you
know,
but
I
think
they're
important
ones,
and
we
appreciate
you
know
all
the
thinking
that's
gone
into
this,
but
the
county
does
have
a
particular
role
in
terms
of
making
sure
the
capital
projects
are
taken
care
of.
So
that's,
I
think,
that's
part
of
the
reason
we
really
want
to
learn
more
about
kind
of
the
ideas
around
this.
The
different
possibilities
around
this.
A
You
know
kind
of
fundamental
question
of
you
know:
do
we
are
we
ultimately
moving
towards
taking
one
of
our
public
schools
offline?
You
know
indefinitely
versus
you
know
the
significant
investments
that
would
be
needed
if
we
are
going
to
maintain
it
for
the
future.
So
thank
you
for
helping
us
with
that
discussion
tonight.
We
look
forward
to
talking
further.
A
AA
Good
evening,
chair
commissioners,
members
of
the
public,
my
name
is
nathan
pennington,
the
planning
director
for
the
county,
we're
going
to
queue
up
a
presentation
here
just
to
discuss
the
process
here,
we'll
give
the
staff
report
and
then
we'll
move
into
a
two
vote
series.
One
will
be
the
consistency
statement
and
the
second
one
will
actually
be
the
vote
on
the
resulting
request
itself.
AA
9635.38.4624
just
to
note
this
rezoning
is
not
a
development
approval
or
an
entitlement
to
do
so.
It
is
a
change
in
the
zoning
classification
of
the
property.
The
property
was
noticed
in
accordance
with
local
and
state
law.
It
was
properly
posted
on
site
as
well
as
our
website.
AA
This
is
the
applicant
information.
As
noted
it
is
staff
initiated.
It
is
an
unaddressed
portion
of
a
100
acre
parcel
east
of
brevard
road
if
you'll
notice,
the
screen
above
you
if
you'll
pay
attention
to
the
light
blue
area.
This
is
the
portion
of
property.
That's
to
be
rezoned.
It's
11.57
acres
of
overall
100
acre
parcel
the
color
coding
here.
R3
is
the
green
area.
AA
The
100
acre
site
is
fairly
isolated
from
other
outlying
uses
and
is
surrounded
by
a
much
larger
345
acre
parent
parcel,
which
is
also
owned
by
biltmore
farms.
Biltmore
farms
is
the
current
owner
of
this
parcel
as
well.
It
will
change
hands
to
the
pratt
and
whitney
folks
at
some
point,
but
it
is
still
owned
by
biltmore
farms.
AA
AA
AA
The
proposed
rezoning
would
allow
additional
uses
in
the
employment
district
that
are
not
currently
allowed
in
the
r3
district.
However,
additional
development
is
not
planned
in
the
area
at
this
time.
A
training
center
in
collaboration
with
pratt
and
whitney
buncombe
county
and
a
b
tech
will
be
positioned
on
the
subject
parcel
in
the
future,
but
it
is
not
part
of
this
application.
AA
If
the
rezoning
is
approved,
this
is
an
evaluation
of
the
employment
district.
It
is
not
a
heavy
industrial
district.
However,
the
following
are
pretty
customary
for
the
employment
district
schools,
storage,
retail
trade,
but
mainly
specialized
manufacturing
and
in
the
county.
We
have
a
number
of
mixed-use
districts:
here's
what's
not
allowed
heavy
industry
like
chip,
mills,
hazardous
waste
facilities,
incinerators,
shooting
rains
and
solid
waste
facilities.
AA
This
is
a
look
at
the
property
right
now
that
is
under
an
active
state
permit
for
erosion
control
and
it
is
actively
being
graded.
The
pratt
whitney
facility
was
approved
by
the
board
of
adjustment
and
construction
is
underway,
at
least
horizontal
construction.
At
this
point,
we'll
be
served
by
public
water
and
sewer.
AA
AA
The
subject
site
is
denoted
with
the
with
a
one
of
three
yellow
or
two
yellow
stars
there
to
the
north
across
the
french
broad
river
for
context
purposes
is
the
buncombe
county,
ferry
road
property,
and
the
proposed
bridge
is
noted.
There
at
the
bottom,
and
it
will
align
with
the
intersection
at
the
arboretum
and
eventually
provide
access
to
the
site
itself.
AA
Compliance
with
adopted
plans,
so
not
only
do
we
look
at
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan.
We
also
look
at
the
strategic
plan
alignment
and
the
avl
5x5
strategy
should
be
looked
at
in
this
instance,
because
you
will
notice
alignment
with
strategic
or
I'm
sorry
specialized
manufacturing
and
it
hits
numerous
sectors
and
is
discussed
often
in
the
land
use
plan,
strategic
plan
and,
of
course,
the
chambers
5x5
strategy
staff.
AA
AA
It
was
initially
reviewed
on
february
the
15th,
because
we're
still
virtual
from
a
planning
board.
We
have
to
do
two
sort
of
reviews.
The
planning
board
made
a
vote
on
march,
the
first
they
made
a
finding
that
the
request
was
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan
and
they
unanimously
recommended
that
the
board
of
commissioners
approve
the
request.
E
S
AA
E
AA
E
AA
S
So
we
are
not
being
asked
to
re-zone
a
portion
of
another
of
another
personal,
but
it
is.
It
is
a
portion.
AA
A
You
are
there
other
questions
for
staff.
At
this
time,
we
will
need
to
open
the
public
hearing.
A
A
AA
Several
yes
in
the
staff
report
staff
found
that
it
is
within
reasonable
proximity
to
major
transportation
corridors.
A
b
within
reasonable
proximity
to
infrastructure,
combined
water
suit
sewer
service
areas
found
that
it's
e
outside
of
moderate
and
high
slope
stability,
hazard
areas,
f
outside
of
flood
hazard
areas
and
g
separated
from
low
density
residential
uses.
So
you
may
choose
to
say
that
you
find
it
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
for
the
reason
stated
in
a
through
g.
V
AC
I
do
sir,
oh,
that's
rachel
nygard.
As
you
know,
the
federal
government
has
passed
the
american
rescue
plan.
We
have
been
tracking
that
bill
and
I'll
ask
rachel
to
just
give
you
some
high
level
thoughts
of
where
we
are
now,
and
this
will
become
something
that
will
continue
to
the
future.
But
tonight
she'll
share
some
high
level.
W
W
Sl
2021-3,
you
heard
philip
hardin
earlier
today
share
an
update
about
housing
assistance,
and
one
of
the
items
mentioned
here
is
emergency
rental,
rental
assistance.
I
did
want
to
clarify
that
it
shows
10
million
here
and
phillip
hardin
clarified
for
me
that
that
10
million
includes
the
7.8
million
of
era,
the
emergency
rental
assistance
that
we
were
awarded
in
december
and
started.
So
this
brings
in
some
funding
for
a
lot
of
covid
response
and
community
recovery
items.
W
However,
there
is
one
item
in
particular
within
this
plan
that
we're
putting
some
energy
toward
creating
some
process
around,
which
is
the
coronavirus
local
fiscal
recovery
fund.
These
are
dollars
that
are
dedicated
towards
state
and
local
governments.
There's
362
billion
dollars
in
some
across
the
nation,
65.1
billion
dollars
of
that
is
direct
aid
to
counties.
W
This
funding
is
different
than
crf.
The
coronavirus
relief
funds
that
we've
worked
together
on
in
the
past
crf
was
passed
to
buncombe
county
by
the
state
of
north
carolina,
and
then
we
had
obligation
to
then
pass
to
sub-recipients
and
the
municipalities.
But
that's
not
the
case
here.
States
and
municipalities
each
have
their
own
assistance.
Within
this
local
recovery
fund.
W
I
won't
go
through
every
bit
of
this
fine
print,
but
do
want
you
to
know
that
we're
looking
closely
at
the
all
of
the
available
information
about
this
fund
and
working
with
partners
like
membership
organizations
that
we
participate
in,
such
as
naco
the
national
association
of
counties
for
interpretation
on
use
of
these
funds,
where
we're
at
now
is
to
decide
a
process
for
how
these
funds
could
be
utilized
within
our
community
and
within
our
organization.
W
W
We
want
to
make
sure
that
investments
are
aligned
to
the
buncombe
county
strategic
plan
which,
as
you'll
recall,
has
two
sides:
the
community
facing
portions
and
the
internal
facing
so
community
and
foundational.
There
are
likely
items
within
both
the
community
and
the
foundational
priorities
that
are
appropriate
for
use
of
these
funds.
W
We
propose
to
compile
project
ideas
from
our
own
resources
internally,
as
well
as
go
to
community.
So
we've
got
some
project
ideas
that
staff
have
been
articulating
as
part
of
the
annual
budgeting
process
as
part
of
capital
needs
or
or
information
technology
processes.
We
will
look
at
those
and
see
if
there's
anything,
there
that's
appropriate,
and
we
would
also
ask
community
partners
and
the
public
for
submit
submission
of
ideas
like
we
do
with
other
processes.
W
Like
capital
improvement,
we
would
prioritize
those
projects
using
a
scored,
a
standardized
scoring
criteria
and
in
keeping
with
our
commitment
to
equity,
make
sure
that
we've
got
an
equity
tool
included
in
that
scoring
keeping
in
mind
the
one-time
expenditures
and,
in
particular
those
items
that
can
be
ready
to
be
fully
complete
within
that
time
frame
of
using
the
funds
and
would
anticipate
once
we
have
the
draft
of
what
those
spending
priorities
are
coming
back
to
the
board
of
commissioners
for
for
sign
off
on
those.
W
We
are
looking
to
hire
additional
staff
to
support
this
in
similar
to
how
we
did
with
the
coronavirus
relief
funds
for
administration
and
would
anticipate
bringing
that
back
for
a
decision
from
the
board
at
your
next
meeting.
W
So
next
steps
waiting
for
guidance
from
the
us
treasury
when
philip
hardin
from
health
and
human
services
presented
earlier,
he
talked
about
faqs.
Those
frequently
asked
questions,
documents
that
come
out
from
treasury
and
we're
waiting
for
some
of
that
additional
information
to.
Let
us
know,
for
example,
how
much
can
we?
What
flexibility
do
we
have
to
spend
funding
on
administration?
W
We
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
method
for
gathering
input
from
this
group
from
this
body.
One
idea
that
has
been
suggested
is
a
potential
working
session,
like
maybe
a
special
meeting
with
the
board
of
commissioners
to
talk
about
priorities,
areas
of
focus
and
potential
projects,
so
we
would
circle
back
with
you
on
that.
Once
we
get
more
clarity,
we
will
certainly
want
to
coordinate
with
others
that
are
receiving
these
funds.
S
Got
a
couple
questions
yeah,
I'm
looking
at
your
use
of
recovery
funds
slide
the
four
points
I
assume
that's
like
that's
language.
That's
taken
directly
from
the
bill
from
the
rescue
plan
itself,
yep.
S
W
S
Because
it's
in
that
1500
page
document
or
whatever,
but
providing
premium
pay
to
eligible
workers
of
the
county
that
are
performing
essential
duties.
Am
I
to
understand
that
that's
just
public
employees,
or
is
with
the
county
in
theory,
be
able
to
pay
emergency
room
personnel
that
work
for
a
private
entity.
W
Thank
you
for
that
question,
so
we
are
researching
whether
that
premium
pay
could
be
applied
for
both
buncombe
county
employees
and
employees
within
other
employers
in
the
community.
There's
some
language
around
transferring
funds
to
other
entities,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
100
percent
confirmed
before
we
commit.
But
that's
that's
a
question
that
we're
researching.
Okay.
S
Thank
you
and
my
second
question
is
around
the
transfer
funds
bullet
in
your
next
slide
that
additional
requirements-
fine
print,
the
third
bullet
state
and
local
governments-
are
allowed
to
transfer
to
a
private
nonprofit
organization,
a
public
benefit
corporation
involved
in
the
transportation
of
passenger
or
cargo,
or
a
special
purpose
unit.
W
So
our
our
best
bet
at
this
point
was
to
copy
and
paste
the
information
from
the
legislation,
because
that's
what
we
know
for
certain
and
use
our
access
to
these
networks
to
try
to
gain
clarification.
So
we
know
some
categories
of
organizations
that
that
does
include,
but
we
want
to
get
clarity
about
all
organizations
that
we
could
potentially
transfer
funds
to
and
what
status
would
apply.
Would
it
be
under
sub-recipient,
sub-recipient
criteria
etc.
When,
when
managing
federal
funds,
we
need
to
have
clarity
about
the
exact
conditions
under
which
would
it
be
contracts?
S
S
I
assume
the
goal
or
intent
would
be
to
support
a
non-profit
for
some
sort
of
public
purpose,
but
that
passenger
or
cargo
language
is
throwing
me
off
to
say
the
least.
Agree.
W
S
A
All
right,
so
I
think
this
sounds
great.
This
is
all
obviously
been
unfolding
pretty
quickly
in
terms
of
congress
actually
proving
this
after
talking
about
it
for
a
while
and
then
knowing
the
final
form
of
it,
and
it's
very
significant.
Obviously
this
is,
I
mean
I've
been
in
local
government
for
a
long
time
and
it's
pretty
unprecedented
in
terms
of
just
the
level
of
resources.
A
So
I
think
these
are
going
to
present
a
lot
of
great
opportunities
to
do
things
in
this
county
that
people
have
been
talking
about
and
planning
around
for
a
long
time
but
which
you
know
there
haven't
always
been
the
resources
to
think
realistically
might
happen
in
the
near
future.
So
I'm
glad
we're
starting
this
conversation
tonight
I
mean
the
feedback.
I've
heard
from
members
of
the
board
is
that
there
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
having
you
know
robust
input
on
this
on
the
front
end.
A
So
I
think
the
idea
of
a
work
session
sounds
great
and
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
schedule
that
you
know
sooner
rather
than
later,
but
obviously
there's
more
info.
We
need
to.
We
need
to
understand
exactly
what
the
options
are
to
make
that
planning
process
as
as
productive
as
it
can
be.
So
I
don't
think
we
have
to
set
a
date
tonight,
but
I
would
just
encourage
it
to
be
held.
You
know
more
on
the
front
end,
so,
commissioners,
any
other
comments
or
questions
tonight.
A
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you,
rachel
appreciate
it,
ms
pender
any
other
items
on
there,
the
manager's
report,
terrific,
all
right,
we
go
to
new
business.
AD
AD
AD
A
Okay,
any
questions,
that's
my
only
question
is
maybe
this
decision
has
not
been
made
at
this
point.
Obviously
the
recommendation
is
to
do
to
work
with
this
firm
another
year.
A
AD
AD
A
Next
up
is
a
budget
amendment
for
non-congregate
sheltering
model
jennifer
barnett.
Our
budget
director
is
going
to
present
this
item.
AE
The
request
this
evening
is
to
increase
the
expenditure
in
the
revenue
budget
for
continuation
of
the
provision
of
the
service,
with
an
estimated
cost
for
the
remainder
of
this
fiscal
year
of
378
035
dollars.
This
does
not
require
general
fund
or
county
contribution
funds.
These
are
funds
that
are
reimbursable
from
north
carolina
emergency.
AE
A
S
AF
AF
A
Y
Thank
you
chairman
and
I'll
be
co-introducing
it
along
with
commissioner
sloan.
I
was
just
hoping
to
make
a
few
brief
introductory
remarks
and
turn
things
over
to
commissioner
sloan
and
then
very
much
look
forward
to
the
dialogue
and
discussion
that
we'll
have
this
evening.
Y
This
ordinance
would
obviously
respect
and
reinforce
the
protections
that
already
exist
under
federal
law
for
certain
protected
groups
and
as
we
have
the
ability
to
do
federal
law
is
the
floor.
We
have
the
ability
to
go
to
the
ceiling
above
and
beyond
that,
and
so
it
would
actually
create
protections
for
groups
and
around
characteristics.
Y
That
excuse
me
are
not
yet
protected
under
federal
law,
though
it's
certainly
my
hope
that
in
the
near
future,
we'll
see
those
federal
laws
pass.
Let
me
just
briefly
read
the
the
areas
that
this
would
provide.
Protection
around.
It
includes
race,
natural
hair,
hairstyles,
ethnicity,
creed,
color,
sex,
sexual
orientation,
gender
identity
or
expression,
national
origin
or
ancestry,
marital
or
family
status,
pregnancy,
veteran
status,
religious
belief
or
non-belief,
age
or
disability.
Y
Y
It
would
communicate
very
clearly
that
we
are
a
community
committed
to
treating
everyone
equally,
regardless
of
who
you
are,
who
you
love,
and
in
both
the
letter
and
spirit
of
this
ordinance,
it
would
be
committed
to
principles
of
how
we
can
work
together
to
educate,
to
support
to
provide
resources
around
compliance.
This
is
not
intended
to
be
a
punitive
ordinance
that
dispenses
punishment.
Y
There's
one
particular
group
that
this
ordinance
would
send
a
very
powerful
message
to,
and
that
is
lgbtq
youth
in
our
community.
It
is
not
easy
growing
up
as
an
lgbtq
youth.
That
was
true
when
I
was
growing
up,
and
it's
still
true
now
in
2021,
if
you're
lucky,
you
have
family
and
friends
and
a
faith
community
and
teachers
at
school
who
support
you,
but
many
in
our
community
do
not
have
that
level
of
support
as
they
grow
up,
and
this
is
a
concrete
step
we
can
take
to.
Y
One
question
we
might
some
folks
might
be
asking
is
why
now
and
that's
a
great
question
there
has
been.
There
have
been
efforts
to
pass
non-discrimination,
ordinances
in
local
communities
for
many
many
years
and
in
some
communities
across
the
country,
they've
been
in
effect
for
decades.
There
are
about
300
communities
across
the
country
that
have
non-discrimination,
ordinances
in
effect.
Y
Some
communities
that
already
had
existing
local,
fair
housing
mechanisms
in
place
have
also
provided
protections
around
housing.
That's
something
that
in
the
future,
I
hope
we
can
discuss
as
a
community,
because
there
is
need
right
now
we're
in
a
critical
moment
in
our
state.
We
have
the
opportunity
here
in
buncombe,
county,
to
step
out
of
the
long
shadow
of
a
law
and
a
long
history
of
discrimination
targeting
minority
communities,
but
specifically
targeting
lgbt
community.
Y
We
have
opportunity
to
step
out
of
that
long
shadow
and
to
catch
up
with
what
people
across
buncombe
county
and
north
carolina
believe,
there's
very
consistent
polling
that
67
percent
of
people
across
our
state
support
nondiscrimination
ordinances.
We
know
that
protections
like
this
are
good
for
people.
Y
Y
I
have
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
with
so
many
different
community
members,
business
leaders,
faith,
leaders,
youth
and
families,
and
there
is
very
broad,
broad
support
for
this
measure.
There
are
also
people
who
have
questions
and
who
may
not
support
it,
and
my
commitment
is
to
stay
in
dialogue
as
much
as
possible
through
this
process.
Y
This
ordinance
will
be
on
the
agenda
on
april
6
and
will
come
forward
for
a
vote
at
that
time.
That's
when
the
formal
vote
will
take
place
as
you'll
see
in
the
content
in
the
text
of
the
ordinance
itself.
There's
a
couple
key
things
to
lift
up
one
is
that
the
ordinance
will
be
enforced
civilly
not
criminally,
and
part
of
that
is
that
the
county
needs
to
develop
systems
for
enforcement
and
reporting.
Y
So
the
version
of
the
ordinance
that
we
will
that
will
be
introduced
for
vote
on
april
6
will
include
language.
Identical
two
are
very
similar
to
what's
in
the
version
tonight,
basically
providing
guidance
and
instruction
to
staff
to
bring
back
concrete
recommendations
that
can
be
implemented
and
also
has
july
1st
2021
as
an
implementation
date.
The
reason
for
that
was
not
just
to
create
time
to
develop
new
enforcement
systems.
We've
never
had
a
non-discrimination
ordinance
in
the
county.
Y
So
there's
not
currently
a
way
to
enforce
it,
but
it's
also
said
that
our
community
has
time
between.
My
hope
is.
This
will
pass
on
april
6
and
when
it
goes
into
effect
on
july
1
for
education,
discussion
dialogue,
many
many
public
accommodations
in
our
community
are
already
complying
with
the
spirit
and
letter
of
this
ordinance
if
there
are
ones
that
are
not
yet
that
period
before
july.
Y
S
Thanks
jasmine
there's
just
two
things
I
wanted
to
bring
up
with
the
with
the
board.
The
first
was
just
to
reiterate
what
what
I
said
for
the
benefit
of
the
community.
To
reiterate
what
I
told
you
all
last
time
at
our
commission
briefing
for
why
I
think
this
is
important
and
and
to
help
answer
the
question
of
of
why
now,
which,
which
again
I
I
agree,
is
an
important
question,
and
the
second
thing
I
wanted
I
wanted
to
bring
up
was
a
specific.
S
What
I
hope
will
be
a
friendly
amendment
to
the
ordinance
itself
around
the
the
issue
of
enforcement
and
so
first
of
all,
lgbtq
persons
in
north
carolina.
They
still
lack
explicit,
consistent
protections
at
the
local
state
and
federal
level,
and
that
continues
to
be
a
big
problem.
S
S
And
so
there's
one.
You
know
one
suggestion
I
have
for
the
board's
consideration
or
discussion.
If,
if
you
want
to
that's
around,
let
me
find
it
in
the
ordinance
here
to
give
you
the
page,
the
penalties
section
on.
Does
it
have
a
page
number?
It
does
not
have
a
page
number,
but
the
penalties
section
in
the
draft
ordinance.
S
I
wanted
to
talk
about
briefly
our
attorney
mr
froop,
provided
I
think
it
was
all
of
us
a
list
of
the
penalties
associated
with
all
of
our
county
ordinances,
whether
it's
the
news
or
noise,
ordinance
or
erosion.
E
S
And
that
that
type
of
thing-
and
my
you
know
in
looking
at
this,
my
hope
was
to
perhaps
suggest
changing
this
language
to
to
strengthen
it
a
little
bit
and
to
make
it
more
in
keeping
with
those
existing
codes
and
ordinances.
S
You
know,
I
think,
it's
best,
that
they
that
they
are
consistent
and
analogous
and
and
more
alike
across
all
ordinances,
and
also
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day.
This
is
this:
is
people's
lives
and
their
livelihoods,
so
perhaps
perhaps
more
important
than
than
a
noise
ordinance
and
so
right
now
we
have
a
civil
penalty
of
a
hundred
dollar
citation,
which
is
just
a
one-time
situation,
and
I
guess
what
I'm,
what
I'm
suggesting
and
pull
up
my
language.
S
What
I'm
suggesting
that's
borrowed
from
other
ordinances
that
we
have
is
a
hundred
dollars
for
the
first
offense
250
dollars
for
the
second
and
500
for
the
third
offense,
if,
if
those
are
occurring
all
in
the
same
calendar
year,
so
just
at
just
suggesting
adding
that
language
to
strengthen
this
to
to
create
a
process,
for
you
know
additional
offenses,
and
so
that's
that's
my
suggestion
for
your
your
thought
and
and
discussion
if
you'd
like
and
I'll
just
end
by
saying
to
reiterate
what
commissioner
b
ferrara
said
about
the
intent
of
this
isn't
to
be
punitive.
S
It's
not
the
intent
of
the
intent
of
this
is
not
to
have
these
penalties,
it's
to
communicate
our
priorities
and
our
goals
for
the
community
and
and
to
create
a
safe
place
for
for
everyone.
So
that's
that's
not!
My
intent
is
not
to
highlight
this,
but
I
do
want
it
to
be.
I
do
want
people
to
understand
that
it's
important
and
that
we're
consistent
with
our
with
our
ordinances
so.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioners.
Are
there
questions
or
comments
from
other
commissioners.
AF
Y
Yeah,
thank
you,
commissioner
wells.
That's
a
great
question,
so
homeless
shelters
would
be
covered
under
the
public
accommodation
section
of
this
ordinance
and
basically,
what
it
would
say
again
in
letter
and
spirit
is
that
a
shelter
like
a
restaurant,
a
hotel
could
not
treat
people
differently
or
discriminate
against
people
on
the
basis
of
any
of
the
identities
or
characteristics
that
are
listed
here
and,
and
that
is,
I
think,
a
baseline
commitment
that
shelters
on
the
whole
try
to
live
into
is
is
wanting
to
help
especially
people
in
crisis.
Y
Y
So
there
are
some
specific
instances
where
it
often
times
what
it
is
is
at
the
level
of
policy
and
practice
that
there
can
be
some
updates
or
sort
of
amendments
made
to
policies
that
work
for
the
vast
majority
of
the
population
that
essentially
sort
of
creates
some
equity
of
access
for
people
who
may
not
be
able
to
meet
that
criteria.
So
those
are
some
of
the.
I
hope
there
will
be
some
opportunities
for
some
really
constructive
dialogue.
It'll
start
with
listening.
Of
course,
you
know.
Y
We
know
that,
particularly
this
year,
shelters
in
our
community
have
been
on
the
front
lines
of
the
coveted
pandemic.
It's
been
a
hard
winter,
they've
been
doing
extraordinary
work
and-
and
we
also
know
that
at
the
same
time,
we
know
that,
certainly
within
the
lgbtq
community,
there's
higher
rates
of
homelessness
among
youth
among
transgender
folks.
So
there
are
some
very
particular
needs
that
come
up
around
what
it
means
to
provide
safe
shelter
to
lgbtq
folks
and
making
sure
that
that's
something
that
we're
doing
as
a
community
as
well.
A
All
right,
so
this
is
scheduled
to
be
on
the
commission
agenda.
We've
talked
about
it
at
a
briefing
meeting,
we're
talking
about
again
tonight,
and
so
it's
scheduled
to
be
on
the
commission
agenda
for
further
consideration
and
possible
decision
making
at
our
first
meeting
in
april,
so
so
to
be
continued.
We,
as
we've
said
we've
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
community
representing
you,
know
different
perspectives
on
this,
and
so
we
encourage
people
to
continue
to
to.
A
Let
us
know
your
thoughts
on
this
between
now
and
the
time
that
we
sort
of
formally
take
it
up
for
deliberation
at
our
first
tuesday
meeting
in
april.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Unless
there's
any
other
comments
for
now,
I
think
we're
we're
good
and
we
are
ready
to
move
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is
consideration
of
board
appointments.
So,
commissioners,
let's
get
out
our
list
of
folks,
we
need
to
review
this
evening
and
the
first
one
is
the
adult
care
home
community
advisory
committee
and
there's
four
reappointments.
E
A
Any
opposed
all
right,
we've
got
a
couple
of
situations
where
we
need
to
kind
of
talk
about
our
policy
on
board
appointments
so
on
the
juvenile
crime
prevention
council.
There's
five
reappointments
four
out
of
the
five
folks
who
who
are
who
could
be
considered,
have
already
served
two
terms.
A
You
know
kind
of
get
up
the
learning
curve
on
this,
so
the
request
from
this
board
was
to
reappoint
some
of
these
members,
for
I
guess
for
an
additional
term
or
some
additional
period
of
time,
because
they've
got
experience
as
the
rest
of
the
new
members
kind
of
get
fully
up
to
speed
on
the
workings
of
the
board.
A
A
A
Let's
let
someone
else
serve
for
a
while,
but
the
fact
that
these
terms
are
actually
just
shorter
than
most
terms,
I
think,
is
a
pretty
good
argument
for
maybe
considering
this
a
little
bit
differently
than
the
boards,
where
you
know,
because
two
terms
here
would
be
just
four
years
so
so
I
guess
I'm
saying
I'm
open
to
the
request
in
this
case.
For
that
specific
reason,
mr
joyner
give
a
comment.
I.
AB
Would
also
add
that
these
positions
are
requirement
positions.
These
are
not
just
open
to
the
public
positions.
These
are
required
positions
for
these
reappointments
yeah.
A
Y
I
could
just
briefly
we're
talking
jcpc
yeah.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
serve
on
jcpc
for
several
years,
and
this
is
a
board
where
there's
a
fairly
heavy
lift
on
training
and
a
fairly
high
level
of
technical
consideration
around
the
way
the
grant
making
happens.
So
I
think,
for
that
reason
I
would
certainly
fully
support
this
proposal
is
there's
a
great
team
of
folks
who've
gone
through
that
and
are
up
and
running
now
and
are
would
be
exciting
to
be
able
to
support
their
continued
leadership.
There.
S
A
Has
any
rules
that
restrict
someone
for
serving
a
third
term?
It's
just
the
county's
policy
of
generally
limiting
terms
reappointments
to
two
terms.
So
we
could
just
say
you
know
for
for
this
commission.
In
light
of
the
short
length
of
the
terms
that
that
members
may
serve
up
to
three
terms
rather
than
two.
A
Or
we
can
just
make
this
decision
and
it's
kind
of
the
facts
on
the
ground,
but
I
do
I
do
I
would
want
to
if
we
make
an
exception
here.
I
would
want
us
to
document
why
we're
doing
it,
because
I
know
it
can
be
tempting
when
other
folks
come
in
they've
always
got
a
good
reason,
but
I
really
feel
like
the
the
two-term
limit
is
generally
good
policy
and
we
ought
to
try
to
kind
of
hold
to
it,
but
this
is
it
is.
This
is
different.
AB
I'm
sorry
if
I
may
yes,
sir,
within
the
policy,
there
is
language
that
states
that
the
board
the
commissioners
may
waive
and
determine
if
the
removal
of
an
individual
made
and
eligible
by
this
policy
would
be
detrimental
to
the
function
of
that
board
committee
or
authority.
AB
The
consecutive
terms.
V
A
A
T
Brownie
can
go
ahead.
These
next
four
have
already
served
two
terms.
E
T
As
in
what
jasmine
was
saying,
it
is
very
important,
and
you
know
what
you've
got
to
do
and
schooling
you
need
for
this.
Are
there
any
way
we
could
stagger
this
here,
or
these
four
are
going
to
come
off
at
the
same
time
and
have
a
whole
new
group
coming
in.
A
I
think
it's
a
good
point,
but
but
again
because
the
bylaws
say
they're
up
every
two
years.
I
don't
think
we
can
change
that.
A
I
think
we
should
probably
just
say
that
we're
open
to
the
the
terms
of
this
board
being
up
to
up
to
three
terms
or
up
to
six
years
total,
because
otherwise
you're
going
to
constantly
be
having
a
lot
of
people
coming
off
and
coming
on
and
not
gaining
that
level
of
it's
going
to
be
kind
of
continuously
sort
of
inexperienced
board
if
you're,
if
you're.
If
the
turnover
is
that
fast.
A
A
Yeah,
so
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
reappoint
clement,
ortaway,
avid
and
datsun
smith
to
an
additional
term
recognizing
that
these
the
terms
on
jcpc
are
just
two
years
and
that
were
the
boards
open
to
serving
up
to
six
years
on
this
particular
board.
A
All
right
next
is
mount
area,
workforce
development
board,
and
mr
joyner
give
me
comments
on
this.
AB
A
So
I'll
comment
on
that,
but
before
I
get
to
that
issue
of
county
residency,
the
other
question
I
had
is
just
the
document
says:
there's
four
reappointments
but
there's
six
candidates
listed.
Is
it
four
or
six.
T
Y
A
There's
actually
eight
people
on
that
list.
Are
we
clear
on
how
many
reappointments
are
open
right
now
and
if
you
need
a
little
moment,
we
can
come
back
to
this
one.
A
A
A
A
A
And
these
are
recommendations
that
were
developed
by
the
committee,
so
these
are
all
members
that
are
currently
serving
and
because
it's
a
new
committee,
it's
sort
of
setting
the
dates
or
when
their
terms,
I
guess
their
initial
terms
would
expire
to
create
staggered
terms
so
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
recommended
dates.
Second,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
all
right.
AB
If
we
can
go
back
to
the
mountain
area,
workforce
development
board,
there
are
six
reappointments
and
if
the
other
two,
which
are
listed
on
the
actual
agenda,
if
we
need
to
do
this
at
the
next
meeting,
we
can
I'll
get
clarification
on
that.
But
can
we
at
least
address
the
sixth
that
are
actually
on
the
sheet
that
I
passed
out?
A
That's:
okay,
that's
okay,
but
if
we
reappoint
these
six.
AB
W
U
U
A
And
I
do
apologize
six
members
who
have
only
served
one
term.
It
was
whose
terms
are
up,
so
we
can't
act
on
that
and
I
don't
think
that
I
don't
think
that
closes
any
doors
on
anybody.
Anybody
else.
Let
me
let
me
raise
the
other
question
that
came
up,
which
is
about
who
the
and
again
please
correct
me,
mr
joyner.
If
I
get
any
of
this
inaccurately,
I
say
that
inaccurately
tony
reed
is
the
chair
of
the
board.
A
AD
A
Policy
that
generally
requires
people
to
be
residents
of
buncombe
county,
so
mr
reed
is
not
a
resident
of
the
county,
but
he
does
work
in
the
county
kind
of.
As
with
the
previous
discussion,
you
know,
I,
my
personal
view
has
been
to
try
to
be
real
consistent
on
this,
just
partly
out
of
a
fairness
to
all
the
different
kinds
of
folks
who
would
serve
on
our
boards.
Even
though
we've
had
some
really
good
people
from
outside
the
county
come
forward.
A
You
know,
I
think
we've
tried
to
be
pretty
consistent
on
this.
I
guess
you
can
always
try
to
find
a
little
bit
of
an
exception
in
anything.
This
is
a
regional
board
which
this
is
not
just
a
board
whose
jurisdiction
is
limited
to
buncombe
county.
So
I
guess
I'm
also
pretty
open-minded
to
the
request
here
in
light
of
the
fact
that
we're
making
appointments
to
something
that's
more
than
just
buncombe
county.
A
All
of
these
applicants
all
live
in
all
the
other
applicants
live
in
buncombe
county.
I
can't
speak
to.
I
can't
speak
to
the
entire
membership.
A
A
AB
AB
A
A
A
Let
me
let
me
look
at
my
calendar
here:
yeah
all.
AC
AC
G
A
At
3
p.m,
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
and
then
on
that
same
date
april
6th
at
5
p.m.
The
county
commissioners
will
hold
a
regular
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville.
Is
there
a
need
for
a
closed
session
great?
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
ms
pender,
sir.
A
Oh
yeah,
thank
you
so
much.
The
county
commissioners
will
hold
a
budget
work
session,
the
first
of
three
on
tuesday
march
30th
at
10
a.m.
Until
noon.
On
the
first
floor
of
200
college
street.
A
Okay,
it
might
be
on
the
third
floor,
200
college
street
rather
than
yes,
I
think
it'll
be
here,
it'll,
be
somewhere
in
200
college
street.
It's
not
a
large
building,
so
all
right
and
that
that
meeting
will
be
broadcast
through
the
same
means.
Destiny.