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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (Oct. 2, 2018)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners from Oct. 2, 2018. To view the meeting agenda or future meeting agendas please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners
A
A
Since
our
last
County
Commission
meeting
the
Buncombe
County
has
lost
one
of
the
great
public
servants
who
represented
our
county
and
the
state
of
North
Carolina
for
many
years
on,
Tuesday
September,
25th
Murray
Colton
passed
away.
Murray
Colton
served
in
the
North
Carolina
House
of
Representatives
from
1978
to
1994.
A
She
remains
the
highest-ranking
woman
in
the
history
of
the
North
Carolina
House
of
Representatives
representative
Colton
used
her
leadership
position
to
advocate
for
public
schools,
environmental
stewardship,
early
childhood
education
and
many
other
issues
for
her
years
of
service.
She
was
awarded
by
governor
Roy
Cooper
the
order
of
the
longleaf
pine,
which
is
North
Carolina's
North
Carolina's,
highest
honor
awarded
to
citizens
for
civic
duty
in
our
state.
A
memorial
service
will
be
held
at
1:00
p.m.
on
October
6
at
Trinity
Episcopal
Church.
A
A
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
ask
everyone
to
please
place
your
cell
phones
on
silent
mode
or
turn
them
off.
I
also
wanted
to
announce
that
the
county
has
parking,
validation
and
bus
passes
for
folks
who
attend
County,
Commission
meetings.
So
if
you
used
a
the
county
parking
garage
to
travel
to
park
for
this
meeting
or
if
you
use
public
transportation,
the
sheriff's
deputies,
who
are
here
with
us
this
evening,
have
validation
for
those.
So
you
can
get,
please
feel
free
to
talk
to
them
and
you
can
and
they'll
help
you
out
with
that.
A
Let
me
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board
before
we
move
into
the
consent
agenda.
In
accordance
with
a
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
County
Commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety,
with
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
A
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
today,
there
being
none
all
board.
Members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
any
matters
voted
on
by
the
board
this
evening.
A
Also,
before
we
move
into
the
consent
agenda,
I
wanted
to
just
make
a
announcement
that
Commissioner
frost
has
another
obligation,
that's
going
to
start
right
around
7:00
p.m.
so
we
may
be
done
with
our
business
by
then,
but
if
not,
the
Commissioner
frost
will
need
to
attend
that
other
meeting
soon
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
everyone
know
about
that
all
right,
and
could
we
have
a
motion
to
add
three
items
to
the
consent
agenda
for
under
new
business?
A
For
our
meeting
this
evening,
those
three
items
would
be
to
appoint
Wayne
Gentry
to
consider
appointing
Wayne
Gentry
to
the
North
Carolina
County
Commissioner
Association
he'll
have
some
more
details
on
on
that
when
we
get
to
that
another
is
to
consider
an
extension
on
a
purchase
option
regarding
the
Ferry,
Road
property
and
finally,
to
revise
the
schedule
of
County
Commissioner
meetings
such
that
we
would
meet
on
October
30th,
but
would
not
meet
on
November
6th.
So.
B
A
A
A
E
A
She
okay!
Thank
you
for
that
correction.
All
right,
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
add
these
items
to
the
agenda
any
opposed.
Okay,
let's
just
let's
just
knock
these
out
on
the
Norris
Gentry
appointment
to
the
North
Carolina
County
Commissioner
Association.
Mr.
wood,
could
you
share
a
few
more
details
about
that.
E
They
have
had
a
nomination
of
mr.
Gentry
and
the
reason
is
that
Madison
County
has
never
had
and
since
1986
has
never
had,
anybody
who
served
as
the
district
director
so
I
think
there's
out
of
a
sense
of
fairness,
they're
recommending
his
name,
and
so
that's
where
we're
at
on
him
and
I
need
to
report
back
to
him
by
Friday.
Whatever
your
wishes
are
all
right,.
E
A
F
A
G
A
I
We
currently
have
a
contract
with
Carnegie
Holdings
for
five
hundred
and
twenty
six
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
They
made
a
deposit
back
in
February
to
purchase
the
property.
The
137
acre
tract
out
on
Ferry
Road
they've
been
working
on
their
due
diligence.
They
reported
a
couple
weeks
ago.
Let
me
back
up
a
second.
The
due
diligence
period
required
allowed
for
a
quote:
unquote,
free,
look
for
from
the
time
the
contract
was
signed
in
February
through
September
22nd.
I
They
contacted
the
county
just
prior
to
that
date
and
informed
of
various
issues
they've
hit,
including
going
before
the
city
technical
review
committee.
The
TRC
asked
them
to
come
back
and
they're
not
scheduled
to
go
to
City
Planning
and
Zoning
till
November.
They
also
have
similar
timing
obstacles
with
state
d-o-t.
I
Their
title
search
has
disclosed
challenges
regarding
right-of-way
access
and
the
possible
need
to
acquire
small
strips
of
property
from
adjoining
owners
along
dr
ferry
and
ferry
road.
It
is
mr.
woods
recommendation
in
my
own.
They
requested
120
days.
Our
recommendation
is
to
allow
them
20
or
90
more
days
to
continue
that
due
diligence
and
then
allow
them
to
extend
for
six
more
months.
The
current
contract
allows
for
an
extension
from
the
September
22nd
date
through
March
22nd
$10,000
a
month
which
would
be
non-refundable
if
they
pulled
out
of
the
contract.
I
If
they
proceed
that
money
would
go
toward
the
purchase
price.
So
they're
asking
for
120
days
of
extended
due
diligence
before
they
would
start
paying
the
$10,000
for
extensions.
Our
recommendation
is
90
days
and
I
know,
there's
some
various
opinions
amongst
the
board,
so
we'll
just
leave
it
to
you.
I
mean
I.
Think
some
of
the
options
were
leave
it,
as
is
in
which
case
they
would
owes
$10,000
now
for
the
first
month
extension
to
get
into
March.
I
The
second
option
would
be
to
allow
what
they're
requesting
for
either
120
days
or
a
lesser
amount
of
90
days,
or
there
was
discussion
about
split
the
difference.
Let
them
go
for
these
three
additional
months,
or
perhaps
four
at
five
thousand
dollars
a
month
before
the
ten
thousand
dollar
additions.
But
the
short
version
is,
they
are
hitting
some
obstacles
that
neither
the
counting
or
they
could
have
anticipated
prior
to
due
diligence
if
we
did
reject
it
and
they
pulled
out
for
any
reason.
I
C
I
A
J
E
G
A
E
A
K
Nako
gave
us
a
call
out
of
the
blue
and
said:
hey
we'd,
like
to
feature
you
in
a
publication
on
affordable
housing,
so
Buncombe
County
was,
amongst
four
case
studies
in
the
United
States
included
in
this
were
King
County
Washington,
which
is
home
to
the
Seattle
area.
There
was
a
community
in
Nebraska
as
well
as
Utah,
and
so
we
were
one
of
the
four
counties.
K
Typically,
what
you
see
on
a
lot
of
these
studies
and
it
was
really
cool
that
neiko
took
the
opportunity
to
reach
out
to
us,
because
a
lot
of
them
tend
to
be
city
centric,
so
you'll
see
a
lot
of
studies
about
affordable
housing
in
our
urban
cities,
but
we
don't
often
see
the
spillover
effects,
especially
in
our
gateway
communities.
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
look
at
some
of
the
other
areas
like
San
Francisco,
Charleston,
South,
Florida
Washington.
K
K
One
of
the
are
two
examples
I'd
like
to
give
recently
working
with
MHO
and
Swannanoa
is
the
East
Haven
development.
This
program
helped
create
fifty
seven
dwelling
units
in
addition
to
what
would
have
normally
been
approved
recently.
Also,
the
villas
at
Avery
Creek
allowed
75
dwelling
units
as
part
of
this
program.
K
A
L
You
for
having
me
so
this
came
out
of
a
request,
I
think
from
Commissioner
Beach
Ferrara.
There
had
been
a
media
story
on
BPR
radio
that
I
think
caught
her
attention.
So
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
kindergarten,
immunization
rates
in
our
County,
but
before
I
get
into
the
data.
I
want
to
just
touch
on
a
few
concepts
that
are
important
when
we
talk
about
immunizations,
so
I
think
they're,
gonna,
cue
up
a
presentation.
L
There
we
go
all
right,
so
first
something
called
herd
immunity
or
what
we
like
to
call
community
immunity.
So
this
is
when
a
high
percentage
of
a
population
is
protected
against
a
disease
either
because
they
had
been
immunized
or
because
they
got
sick
with
the
disease,
and
in
this
way
it
can
prevent
the
spread
of
an
infection
throughout
the
community,
and
so
we
talk
about
community
immunity
being
a
shield
of
protection
around
of
our
our
community.
L
That's
our
phrase
that
we
use
that
Buncombe
County,
Health
and
Human
Services,
and
basically,
what
you
can
see
from
this
chart
is
if
a
large
enough
popular
people
in
the
population
are
immunized
at
the
bottom
graph.
If
a
disease
comes
into
that
population,
it
can't
spread
so
people
are
protected.
But
if
you're
up
at
the
top
of
the
of
the
chart,
you
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
not
immunized
just
one
or
two
people
coming
into
that
population
who
are
ill
with
an
infection,
it
can
spread
like
wildfire,
and
so
this
is
important
concept.
L
Another
concept
that
is
important
to
understand
is
something
called
clustering,
so
we
know
that
people
who
have
similar
beliefs
in
regards
to
immunization
tend
to
live
in
the
same
neighborhoods,
go
to
the
same.
Schools,
maybe
go
to
the
same
faith
communities,
and
so
there
is
the
potential
for
large
clusters
of
onion
iced
people
to
conglomerate
together.
L
The
levels
of
vaccinations
that
are
required
to
achieve
community
immunity
vary
between
illnesses,
and
so
some
diseases
are
very
contagious,
like
measles
and
pertussis
or
whooping
cough
so
that
it
takes
a
large
number
of
the
population.
A
large
percentage
of
the
population
to
be
immune
or
protected,
to
prevent
the
spread
of
those
infections
through
the
community
so
about
95%
of
the
population,
needs
to
be
immune
to
measles
and
also
to
whooping
cough
to
keep
that
shield
of
protection
strong
in
a
community
and
I.
L
Think
it's
important
for
us
to
recognize
that
immunizations
and
community
immunity
don't
just
protect
us
and
our
family,
but
are
important
for
the
vulnerable
in
our
community
who
cannot
be
immunized
because
of
their
age,
so
like
young
infants
or
because
of
underlying
medical
conditions
that
may
leave
them
immunocompromised
and
so
in
in
areas
with
high
community
immunity.
We're
basically
protecting
those
vulnerable
people
in
our
society.
L
This
is
just
a
map
of
the
United
States
for
twenty
sixteen
to
seventeen
showing
the
percent
of
kindergarteners
in
each
state
that
had
non-medical
exemptions.
So
the
darker,
the
color,
the
higher
the
percentage
of
kindergarteners,
who
had
some
sort
of
exemption
from
a
state
required
immunization,
and
so
you
can
see
that
the
West
and
the
Midwest
and
the
four
Northeast
have
more
of
a
population
who
is
not
fully
vaccinated.
L
So
in
North
Carolina
we
have
two
types
of
exemptions
from
required:
vaccinations
that
are
permissible
by
statute.
So
the
first
is
a
medical
exemption.
So
this
is
an
exemption,
because
that
child
has
a
medical
condition
that
would
be
worsened
by
a
certain
immunization
or
that
they
had
a
prior,
serious
allergic
reaction
to
an
immunization
and
to
get
an
exemption,
a
medical
exemption.
You
have
to
see
a
physician
and
have
a
form
filled
out
and
signed
and
then
turn
that
into
the
school.
L
The
the
only
other
type
of
exemption-
that's
allowable
by
North
Carolina
law,
is
called
a
religious
exemption,
and
this
is
supposed
to
be
a
bona
fide
religious
belief
that
is
against
immunization,
and
there
is
no
set
form
that
this
has
to
be
filled
out
on.
There
is
no
one
who
has
to
sign
it
other
than
the
parent
to
say
that
I'm
exempting
my
child
because
of
a
religious
belief
and
in
in
North
Carolina.
Unlike
other
states,
there
is
no
state
allowable
exemption
for
a
philosophical
or
personal
belief
against
vaccination.
L
So
now,
let's
take
a
look
at
the
recent
data
that
came
out
about
Buncombe
County,
so
to
orient
you
to
this
graph.
So
the
red
line
at
top
is
the
number
of
enrolled
kindergartners,
and
this
is
going
from
the
1999-2000
school
year.
All
the
way
to
last
school
year,
the
blue
bars
are
the
number
of
kindergarteners
that
had
at
least
one
exemption
one
exemption
from
a
required
immunizations.
So
it's
not
necessarily
that
all
these
kindergarteners
were
not
immunized
at
all.
L
L
You
know
two
decades,
but
our
number
of
non-medical
exemptions
has
increased
last
year,
145
kindergarteners,
and
what
I
would
say
is
that
we're
limited
again
and
what
we
know
and
what
the
state
knows
in
terms
of
what
is
reported
by
the
schools
directly
to
the
state
and
then
what
we
are
able
to
get
to
the
state.
Those
schools
don't
report
that
to
the
health
department.
It
goes
directly
to
the
state
and
what
they
report
is.
We
had
this
many
number
of
kindergarteners
and
we
had
this
many
who
had
a
religious
exemption.
L
This
many
they
had
a
medical
exemption.
It
doesn't
tell
us
what
immunizations
they're
not
getting.
It
doesn't
tell
us
how
many
each
child
is
not
getting
so
we're
limited
in
that
and
then,
when
we
look
at
what
is
this
in
comparison
to
other
counties,
you
can
see
that
by
far
we,
this
is
just
looking
at
the
top
10
urban
counties,
as
well
as
the
state
they're
the
bar
on
the
bottom.
L
We
by
far
have
the
highest
percentage
of
kindergarteners
with
a
not
with
non-medical
exemptions
at
5.7
percent,
which
is
the
highest
rate
we've
ever
had
and
when
we
think
about
it,
Buncombe
County
has
only
one
fifth
of
the
kindergarten
enrollment
of
Wake
County
last
school
year,
but
we
had
90
percent
of
the
number
of
exemptions
they
had.
So
it's
out
of
proportion
right
to
our
when
we
look
at
in
comparison
to
other
counties.
Our
kindergarten
enrollment
is
in
between
that
of
Union
and
New
Hanover,
and
the
other
thing
I
would
say.
L
Is
this
county
level
data
doesn't
tell
the
whole
story
again
getting
back
to
that
concept
of
clustering.
We
know
when
we
look
at
school
specific
data.
We
have
kindergarten
or
kindergarten
classes
last
year,
where
the
exemption
rates
were
between
20
and
43
percent,
and
we
had
one
kindergarten
rate
class
with
a
class
size
of
28
that
had
a
68
percent
exemption
rate,
so
that
gets
that's.
What
keeps
me
up
at
night
can
I
ask
a
question:
yeah.
B
L
So
it's
I
Marisol
after
all,
that
media
about
that.
It
was
not
that
there
was
any
scientific
reason
to
take
it
out,
but
the
decision
was
to
remove
it
from
those
vaccinations.
There
are
still
some
flu
shots
where
that
might
it
might
be
included,
but
there
are
time
aerosol
free
flu
shots
as
well,
so
that
has.
L
L
This
is
the
percentage
and
again
you
can
see
our
trend
in
comparison
to
those
of
the
other
tops
and
Urban's
in
the
state
is
just
much
higher
and
at
a
higher
slope
and
when
we
look
at
the
state
as
well,
medical
exemptions
for
these
counties
have
remained
pretty
stable
and
low,
but
you
can
see
starting
around
2006-2007
school
year.
All
of
the
counties
have
started,
have
a
slight
increase
and
the
percentage
of
kindergartners
with
exemptions,
and
so
what
happens
when
we
lack
community
immunity?
So
measles
is
what
happens.
L
We
we
know
that
you
know,
measles
was
declared
eliminated
from
the
United
States
back
in
2000,
but
we
know
it
still
continues
to
cause
large
outbreaks
in
the
world
in
places
like
France
and
in
other
countries
in
Europe
and
Asia,
and
we
often
talk
about
these
diseases
being
a
plane
ride
away
and
there
have
been
outbreaks
brought
in
to
the
United
States
because
of
people.
Try
leaving
the
United
States
traveling
to
these
parts
of
the
world,
where
measles
in
is
endemic,
where
it's
very
common
and
coming
back
and
spreading
it
throughout
their
unvaccinated
communities.
L
So
Minnesota's
had
several
large
outbreaks.
We
didn't
probably
know
about
the
Disneyland
associated
outbreak
that
happened
several
years
ago.
Again
we
haven't
seen
measles
yet,
but
the
things
we
see
whooping
cough.
We
know
we
see
pertussis,
we
know
we
see
chickenpox
and
we
also
see
flu
during
flu
season
and
long-term
care
facilities.
L
This
is
just
a
graph
just
to
so
some
of
the
data
we
have
on
vaccine
preventable
diseases
in
our
County
over
the
last
several
years,
the
ones
that
we
most
commonly
see
again:
pertussis
flu
and
then
hepatitis,
A
and
B
things
that
can
be
prevented
through
vaccination
and
so
why?
Why
is
this
what's
driving
this
trend?
Why
are
people
claiming
exemptions,
and-
and
so
we
call
this
vaccine
hesitancy,
it's
delaying
or
skipping
immunizations,
usually
because
of
concerns
about
safety
or
the
necessity
of
vaccines,
and
so
what
are
our
challenges
in
addressing
vaccine
hesitancy?
L
So
the
first
one
is
success.
Right
vaccines
have
been
so
successful
at
eliminating
or
reducing
the
occurrence
of
things
like
polio
and
measles
and
mumps
in
this
country
that
there's
no
context
for
parents
this
these
days,
I
mean
I'm,
a
medical
provider
and
I've
never
seen
a
case
of
measles,
and
so
when
you
don't
have
that
context,
you
start
to
think.
Why
does
this
necessary?
What
does
it
matter?
L
It's
there
and,
and
then
also
Facebook
and
social
media
are
serve
as
places
where
the
vocal
minority
can
spread.
This
misinformation
and
exposure
to
anti
vaccine
messages
through
social
media
really
appears
to
intensify
parental
worries
about
vaccines
and
lowers
their
intentions
to
vaccinate
and
then
there's
this
concept
called
backfire
effect
where,
if
I
provide
you
information
that
debunks
a
falsehood
that
you
believe
in
it
basically
is
contradicting
your
belief
and
it
causes
you
to
become
more
entrenched
in
that
belief,
because
it
feels
like
a
personal
attack
to
you.
L
L
So
one
of
those
is
peer-to-peer
communication
right
so
having
volunteer
parents
provide
positive
or
they
find
positive
ways
to
share
information,
promoting
vaccines
to
the
fellow
parents.
To
answer
their
questions,
listen
to
their
concerns
that
peer-to-peer
relationship
can
help
another
is
messaging
to
address
the
moral
values.
So
this
is
about
framing
right.
So
it's
often
that
vaccine
hesitancy
is
not
an
issue
of
Education.
These
are
often
very
highly
educated
parents.
L
It's
more
about
the
moral
differences
between
people
who
get
their
children
immunized
and
those
who
don't
and
what
they
found
is
that
parents
who
are
most
reluctant
to
vaccinate
appear
to
be
strongly
concerned
with
individual
liberty
and
purity,
and
so
research
is
ongoing
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
talk
about
vaccines
in
a
way
that
appeals
to
those
moral
values?
L
The
prenatal
providers
to
get
information
to
to
future
parents
and
so
locally
we've
started
a
Buncombe
County
immunization
coalition.
We're
calling
the
shield
of
protection
we
launched
it
in
March
with
a
event
may
heck,
because
we
know
that
diseases
cross
county
lines.
We
have
opened
it
up
to
other
counties
to
participate
in.
We
have
health
care
providers,
school
and
childcare
administrators,
school
nurses,
representatives
from
the
media
and
from
local
community
organizations.
We
have
parents
on
this
coalition
and
we
want
to
expand
it.
L
So
if
you're
interested
we'd
welcome
your
attendance,
but
we're
looking
for
more
parents,
grandparents,
the
faith
community,
anyone
who's
interested
in
working
on
this
effort
with
us
and
what
we're
looking
at
is
this
social
ecological
model.
So
basically,
this
is
a
way
to
a
framework
for
understanding
the
relationships
and
the
interplay
of
personal
and
environmental
factors
that
influence
behaviors
and
there's
evidence
that
if
we
can
have
interventions
at
each
level
of
this
model,
we're
going
to
be
more
successful
at
changing
people's
behaviors.
And
so
how
can
you
help?
So?
L
The
first
thing,
I
would
say,
is
advocate
for
immunizations
and
get
immunized
yourself
right.
When
you
hear
somebody
say
something
that
you
know
isn't
true
about.
Immunizations
speak
up
join
our
immunization
coalition.
Again,
we
are
currently
meeting
quarterly
we'd
love
to
have.
You
join
us
as
I
mentioned
before,
there's
limitations
in
the
data
we
currently
can
get
from
the
state,
and
so
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
obtain
de-identified
data
from
each
school
in
Buncombe
County.
That
basically
says
all
right
of
these
28
exemptions
that
we
have
in
kindergarten.
L
You
know
ten
of
them
were
for
the
Tdap
vaccine
and
it's
basically
so
we
can
have
specific
data
on
what
immunizations
people
are
not
getting
for
their
children.
So
we
know
how
to
target
our
messages
right,
because
the
message
that
I
would
say
to
a
parent
about
chickenpox
it's
going
to
be
different
than
the
message
I
say
about
hepatitis,
B
vaccine
right
support
us
there's
an
idea
of
basically
promoting
transparency
at
the
school
and
childcare
level
where
they
would
post
what
their
immunization
rate
is.
L
So
the
parents
would
know
right
now
you
as
a
parent,
would
have
to
ask
the
school
administration
what's
the
exemption
rate
in
the
school
and
so
making
it
more
again
transparent
to
to
parents
and
community
members
of
how
the
schools
in
our
area
are
doing
and
then
finally,
you
know
we
have
spoken
with
our
local
state
delegation
about
potentially
looking
at
changing
our
state
requirements
and
so
we'd
love
your
support
on
any
policy
level
changes
that
would
come
about
that
we
think
are
good.
So
that's
what
I
have
any
questions.
M
Just
like
to
say
thank
you
and
I
did
request.
This
just
was
sort
of
an
alarm
to
hear
that
statistic
and
thought
it
would
be
important
to
do
more
to
sort
of
shed
light
on
some
of
the
trends,
but
also
some
of
the
things
that
are
underway
to
address
them.
It's
definitely
concerning
to
hear
about
those
sort
of
spiked
rates
in
some
classrooms
and
schools
in
particular,
and
appreciate
the
work
that
you
all
are
doing
to
just
raise
awareness
and
encourage
vaccinations
and
hope
there
can
be
updates
as
that
coalition's
work
and
progresses
speaking
so.
B
L
L
Who
are
you
know,
doing
their
research
and
coming
to
this
conclusion
right,
yeah,
it's
in
our
community.
It
really
shouldn't
be
an
issue
with
access
right
right
right,
but
clearly
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that's
not
the
issue,
but
that
hasn't
risen
to
the
top.
It's
it's
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
why
people
are
claiming
exemption
because
it
I
mean.
D
L
In
the
in
the
United
States,
yes,
I
mean
locally
again,
we
haven't
seen
any
measles,
but
there
have
been
outbreaks
in
the
state
and
in
it
they
have
been
in
pop.
You
know
pockets
of
people
who
have
been
unvaccinated
so
we've
every
time.
There's
an
outbreak
in
the
state
that
we
hold
our
breath
waiting
like
hoping
that
those
people
didn't
cross
over
with
anyone
in
our
County,
because
we
are
worried
that
we
have
basically
a
time
bomb
kind
of
ticking
here.
C
Think
your
comments
on
the
liberty
and
purity
or
our
spot
on
I
mean,
as
a
commissioner
I,
think
it's
important
for
you
know
the
public
to
you
know
they're
going
to
make
their
own
decisions.
You
know
we
can
provide
information
that
allows
them
to
make
a
decision
and
it's
it's
ultimately
up
to
them.
I
have
my
personal
opinion:
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
going
to
try
to
influence
from
from
here
what
mine
is,
but
it
is
a
parade
as
a
personal
liberty
to
make
that
decision
and
they
have
to.
C
We
have
to
measure
we
have
to
look
at
it.
We
have
to
be
be
be
careful
with
I.
Think.
A
lot
of
the
conversation
I've
heard
has
been
around
the
around
the
around
the
flu
vaccine
and
I'm,
and
you
know
on
how
successful
it's
being-
and
you
know,
I,
don't
I,
don't
hear
a
tremendous
amount
of
conversation
on
the
other,
the
others
I
do
hear
some
and
it's
it's
not
all.
It's
similar
religious
exemptions.
C
F
A
E
I
did
want
to
mention
a
couple
of
things
if
occurred.
Sure
thing
I
just
want
to
make
make
y'all
aware
we
did
make
the
presentation
on
our
formal
application
to
the
Tourism
Development
Authority
for
a
six
million
dollar
project
at
the
Sports
Park
in
Inca
Candler.
That
was
last
Thursday
and
I.
Think
our
staff
did
a
good
job
on
that.
The
other
thing
I
did
want
to
mention
to
you
is
I.
E
Think
we
reported
at
the
last
meeting
that
the
Board
of
Appeals
had
prevailed
in
the
lawsuit
with
Rab
builders
over
not
issuing
a
conditional
use.
Permit
I
wanted
to
make
you
aware.
Rab
Builders
has
filed
a
notice
of
appeal
to
the
North
Carolina
Court
of
Appeals
on
that
development,
and
so
we'll
be
waiting
for
further
information
on
that
is
that
the
Moffett
Road?
That's
the
Moffett
Road
development,
that's
correct!
We.
N
You,
chairman
Newman,
so
this
report
is
in
response
to
a
request
from
Commissioner
Belcher
at
the
last
meeting
for
an
update
on
the
open
checkbook
project
and
that
project
eye
reflects
your
commitment
to
transparency
regarding
financial
transactions
and
making
that
information
publicly
available
on
the
county's
website.
County
staff
have
created
a
working
draft
of
the
open
checkbook,
and
our
proposal
is
to
roll
out
that
open
checkbook
in
phases
due
to
sensitivity
around
some
of
the
data
and
I'll
explain
that
some
of
the
data
is
protected
by
privacy
laws.
N
For
example,
we
are
obligated
to
keep
confidential
the
names
of
clients
receiving
social
services
in
the
form
of
direct
payments,
the
names
of
paid
elections,
workers
with
another
category
of
data
that
the
county
is
prohibited
from
publishing
certain
payment
data
related
to
ongoing
Public,
Safety
investigations
or
undercover
activities
similarly
can
be
provided
to
the
public.
So
we're
erring
on
the
side
of
caution
in
the
light
of
these
privacy
concerns.
N
I'd
like
to
give
you
the
timeline
for
the
rollout
that
we
are
proposing
in
phases.
October
16th
will
mark
the
launch
of
the
first
set
of
the
data,
we're
focusing
on
those
departments
with
transactional
information
that
is
generally
not
private
or
sensitive
in
nature.
To
that
end,
we're
asking
staff
from
the
department's
to
review
the
list
of
their
suppliers
for
the
purpose
of
identifying
those
that
must
remain
confidential.
N
Additional
data
will
be
published
before
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
as
the
review
progresses,
and
we
anticipate
that
all
county
payment
information
will
be
available
before
February
the
1st.
So
what
content
will
be
available
through
the
open,
checkbook
we'll
be
publishing
the
name
of
each
payee.
The
line
of
budgetary
expenditure,
the
date
of
the
payment
and
the
amount
paid
for
those
payees
who's
identified
entities
must
remain
confidential.
Names
will
be
replaced
with
client
or
public
safety
as
general
categories.
N
The
information
will
be
organized
by
Department
or
county
function,
and
we
will
be
reporting
transactions
that
have
occurred
since
June.
Excuse
me,
July
1st
of
this
fiscal
year.
The
lists
of
payments
will
be
updated
monthly,
beginning
in
February.
As
you
know,
the
open
checkbook
has
been
promised
for
several
months
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
recent
implementation
of
our
financial
accounting
system
has
significantly
improved
our
ability
to
fill
this
order
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
comments.
N
N
C
C
I
think
the
timings
good
and,
like
you
said,
with
the
new
system
that
we've
gotten
I,
want
to
thank
you
for
the
hard
work
and
and
being
able
to
roll
this
out
by
February
I
think's,
very
good.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
next
time
under
old
business
is
a
follow
up
on
the
discussion
we
had
at
our
previous,
our
last
County
Commission
meeting
regarding
health
insurance
plans
for
calendar
year
2019,
as
well
as
a
change
to
the
sale
of
vacation
days
policy.
So
I
will
turn
it
over
to
mr.
wood
to
start
this
off.
But
then
I
think
we'll
come
back
to
the
board
for
discussion
in
and
there's
ethers
mission.
Well.
E
E
This
would
take
the
place
of
the
three
plans
we
have
right
right
now,
which
is
a
standard
plan
which
is
ninety
five.
Five.
You
have
the
bio
plan,
which
is
80/20,
and
then
you
have
the
core
plan,
which
is
a
70/30
plan.
The
second
plan
we're
recommending
is
a
high
deductible
consumer
driven
plan
and
that
would
include
an
HSA
component
to
it
of
a
thousand
dollars
that
the
county
would
deposit
into
an
HSA
account
for
the
employee,
so
the
employee
could
select
either
the
80/20
plan
that
we're
proposing
or
they
could
go
with
the
HSA.
E
A
O
B
Karma
about
that
I
did
watch
online
I
was
able
to
attend
with
Commissioner
Beach
for
our
one
employee
work
session
and
I
think
you
know.
Obviously,
everyone
wants
to
address
rising
costs,
but
I
think
we
have
an
extraordinary
workforce
and
instead
of
approving
this
motion,
I
would
like
to
instruct
staff
to
do
a
thorough
and
complete
employee
education
work
with
county
employees,
who
you
know
it's
so
it's
hard.
B
For
me
one
hand
we
say
how
extraordinary
our
workforce
is
and
then
on
the
other
hand,
this
I
think
we
know
that
employees
have
been
through
a
horrific
time.
We
know
the
employees
when
they're
out
in
the
public
whether
they
work
for
HHS
what
they
think
when
they're
facing
the
public
we're
not
facing
the
public.
The
way
a
lot
of
county
employees
are,
and
they
have
borne
the
brunt
of
what's
going
on
with
this
federal
investigation,
so
I'm
not
saying
willy-nilly
these,
we
should
just
shrug
away
these
costs,
but
I
do
think.
A
All
right,
no,
what's
that
emotion
or
was
I
mean,
was
good
yeah.
A
B
F
C
C
I'd
said
before
that,
I
would
not
support
a
plan
that
did
not
include
a
major
wellness
and
education
and
improvement
of
our
team
members
health
as
an
option
because
long
term,
it's
the
only
way
to
get
control
of
your
health
care,
any
other.
Any
other
way
is
just
reacting
to
external
cost,
and
you
just
you
just
keep
going
up
and
you
know
in
and
changing
the
plan.
I
do
I
do
think.
So
that's
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
direct
staff
and
they
may
go
along
with
Commissioner
Foster's.
C
You
know
one:
is
you
just
go
in
there
in
there
in
their
lunch
room
and
you
see
the
options
that
they
have
and
you
know
some
some
changes
they've
made.
So
you
know,
I
would
like
to
see
that
the
other
I
would
like
to
say
that
our
that
we
have
a
95
as
we
as
you
see
here.
We
have
a
95
5
plan
and
we
have
a
80/20.
We
have
a
70/30
I.
C
We
should
look
at
more
options
on
how
we
can
get
these
plans
closer.
The
other
thing
in
the
in
the
healthcare
options
that
you
gave
us
it
was
when
I
looked
at
it.
It
was
it
it
looked
to
me
that
you
could
save
more
money
if
you
increase
the
annual
out-of-pocket
rather
than
the
deductible
most
people
that
I
talked
to
are
more
concerned,
I.
C
Think
about
the
deductible,
which
does
not
return
much
as
a
cost
saving,
so
I,
don't
think
we
have
an
I,
don't
think
we
have
enough
options
with
with
what
we
have
here
today.
I
think
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
a
at
a
five-year
plan,
so
we're
not
annually
reacting
to
healthcare
costs,
I.
Think
we're
going
to
need
to
spread
this
out
and
I.
Don't
know
what
that
looks
like
in
emotions.
That's
just
that's
my
comments
on
the
current
plan,
so
I.
D
J
You
second,
it
well
I
mean
I
I,
like
what
you
said:
Commissioner
Whiteside,
that
is
very
important.
This
is
something
we
do
not
need
to
rush
into
and
I
think
in
defense.
Here.
Mr.
woods
has
come
in
here
and
he's
laid
out
a
plan
for
us
in
a
lot
of
different
areas
and
I.
Don't
want
to
put
words
in
his
mouth
or
say
something
that
I'm
not
supposed
to,
and
you
let
me
know
is
he
is.
J
He
is
warning
us
what
we
need
to
be
looking
for
in
the
future
and
I,
don't
think
he
has
to
be
done
this
year.
Does
it
I'm
going
with
Commissioner
Whiteside
Commissioner
Belcher
of
looking,
let's
putting
this
off
a
year
and
get
more
information,
because
I've
had
numerous
emails
about
people
that
really
depend
on
this
health
care?
We've
got
and
back
in
two
thousand
eight
nine
ten
when
it
was
hard
to
get
good
quality
employees
here.
This
was
something
that
brought
everyone
in.
D
I
can
tell
you
from
experience,
I
went
through
this
before
about
20
years
ago,
and
we
didn't
do
it
right,
we
jumped
into
it
and
it
took
us
three
years
to
untangle
the
mess
that
we
made
at
that
time.
So
I,
don't
want
to
see
us
cause
the
same
problem
here
today,
but
George
I
do
commend
you
because
you're
doing
the
right
thing
and
putting
these
putting
us
on
the
table,
because
we
need
to
be
prepared
when
the
new
county
manager
to
come
in
I
mean
this.
D
C
C
You
know
we
we
can't,
we
can't
wait
a
year
for
that
to
come
back,
I
mean
somebody's
got
a
you
mean
we
need
to
have
that
in
in
a
couple
of
months,
and
then
we
need
to.
We
need
to
get
reports
on
that,
and
what
do
we
think
it
looks
like,
and
what
are
some
of
the
options
that
we
can
have
for?
You
know
for
14
members
going
forward,
so
I
think
we
need
to
build
upon
this
presentation
as
quick
as
quick
as
possible.
A
Will
we
will
take
a
communication
yeah
any
other
Commissioner
comments
before
we
open
it
up
for
public
comment,
man
all
right,
so
there
is
a
motion
which
is
to
keep
the
current
health
plan
benefits
for
this
year.
That's
the
specific
motion,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about.
You
know,
follow-up
activities
that
that
would
be
happening
on
education,
wellness
and,
and
you
know,
and
just
looking
further
at
the
at
these
recommendations.
A
If
this
is,
if
the
motion
is
improved
tonight,
there
is
another
component
too
there's
also
a
the
other
recommendation
is
to
significantly
change
the
pay
vacation
day
policy.
So
that's
not
part
of
the
current
motion,
but
I'd
go
ahead
and
ask
if
anybody
has
comments
on
that
item
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
too.
So
we
don't
kind
of
open
it
up
for
public
comment
twice.
If
you
have
any
comments
on
any
aspect
of
these
personnel
benefits,
we'd
welcome
them
now.
Mr.
Elden
and
you
have
three
minutes
to
comment.
H
Don
Yelton
Jupiter
I
told
you
the
last
time.
I
spoke
about
you
wellness.
You
need
to
cut
a
deal
with
a
BTEC
to
provide
that
information
and
let
them
be
part
of
that
be
part
of
their
requirements
for
a
degree,
because
we
should
be
teaching
them
how
to
have
healthy
food
too
and
I
think
we
are,
and
that
would
be
no
cost
to
the
county.
H
Furthermore,
I've
talked
to
some
insurance
specialist
and,
by
the
way,
I've
been
sleeping
with
an
insurance
broker
for
49
years
and
I
can
tell
you
as
a
self-funded
group.
You
can't
do
lots
of
things.
That's
not
normally
done
in
the
insurance
industry.
Okay,
I
have
two
rates
for
retirees
and
for
others,
but
I
think
you've
got
a
problem
and
the
problem
is
you
keep
kicking
this
can
down
the
road.
Your
interim
county
manager
told
you
when
you
did
the
cola
and
y'all
discussed
not
doing
a
cola.
Didn't
you
I
bet
you.
H
H
Then,
let's
see,
if
you've
got
the
guts
to
go
back
and
do
that
so
that
that
1%,
that
you
kicked
us
taxpayers,
you're
sitting
there
just
waiting
to
grab
it
and
all
those
millions
when
Mission
Hospital
becomes
for
profits
and
folks,
if
you
don't
start
looking
at
managing
your
money
and
cutting
your
expense,
you
will
end
up.
Rwanda
Green
told
me
that
this
commission
was
going
to
weeks
for
she
resigned
spending
money
like
it's
going
out
of
style.
That's
right.
She
said.
H
You
look
at
every
dime,
you
spend
and
you
divide
it
yeah,
it's
funny,
innit
that
she
said
is
real
funny
because
she
was
spending
it
and
nobody
caught
it.
So
you
weren't
watching
your
money,
see
what
she
was
telling
me
was
the
truth.
It's
no
laughing
matter
because
that's
my
money
and
everybody's
money,
they're
retirees
money,
your
money
and
it
wasn't
just
her
that
was
getting
it
and
I
hope.
Your
investigation
shows
that
but
I
think
you
made
a
mistake.
I
think
you
need
to
ask
your
employees.
H
Do
you
want
color,
or
do
you
want
good
insurance?
That
might
be
the
next
question
you
ask,
and
that
would
give
you
your
year
to
get
a
BTech
involved
and
do
some
things.
That's
wise,
because
I
got
13
seconds
when
I
worked
at
the
county.
I
had
a
lady
when
to
stop
smoking.
She
didn't
stop
smoking.
I
did
she
died
with
lung
cancer?
I've
got
COPD
being
self-funded.
You
can
do
things
like
that,
because
you
can
do
things
that
a
normal
company
can't
do.
A
C
A
A
G
Agree,
you
know
I've
got
one
person,
it
was
part
of
this
that
ended
up
he's
got
insurance,
but
he
had
to
take
retirement.
It
was
under
40
years
old
when
he
had
to
do
this.
He's
worried
about
his
insurance
side
and
he's
under
595
I
want
to
I
want
to
look
at
it.
I'm,
like
everybody
else,
I
want
to
look
at
it
in
a
way,
but
Joe
I,
understand
the
Wellness
side
and
I
think
the
people
are
the
ones
that
have
to
make
their
mind
up
to
do
that.
G
That's,
but
we
don't
need
our
staff
working
to
tell
our
people
what
they
need
to
do.
Our
staff
needs
to
be
doing
their
job
and
that's
I
apologize
for
that.
But
that's
exactly
you
know
everybody.
It's
a
free
country.
You
can
run
if
you
want
to
and
you
can
walk
if
you
want
to,
but
it's
a
free
country
and
if
I,
don't
you
know,
if
I
don't
want
to
do
either,
you
know
we
can
see
how
the
insurance
can
work.
That's
just
the
way.
It
is.
Thank
you.
Yes,
I,
don't
like.
A
To
just
share
couple
thoughts,
you
know,
I
think
the
it
is
free
country
people
can
make
their
own
people
do,
make
their
own
decisions,
but
I
do
think
the
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
research
showing
that
we
need
to
be
encouraging.
Folks
to
you,
know,
choose
to
make
healthier
choices
with
exercise
and
diets
and
and
all
those
different
things
that
we
know
are
good
because
some,
if
we
incentivize
those
things-
and
we
do
proactive,
education,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
research
showing
that
that
can
be
really
effective
in
increasing
participation.
A
That
which
is
gonna
help
folks
be
healthier,
and
it's
going
to
help
save
taxpayers
a
lot
of
money.
So
I
do
think
that
those
are
those
are
really
important
policy
decisions
we
need
to
make
and
not
solely
you
know,
just
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
is
people's
right
to
choose
how
they
do
it,
but
we
should.
We
should
encourage,
encourage
healthy,
but
and.
G
Fact
is
we
had
this
when
I
came
here
we
did,
it
was
an
HR
wonder,
got
rid
of
the
lady
that
was
doing
it.
You
know
we
had.
We
got
money
for
walkin,
we
got
money
for
this.
We
got
money
for
that
and
and
it
was
an
incentive
but
Wanda
green
killed
it.
So
you
know
we're
trying
to
bring
something
back
and
I'm
fine
with
bringing
it
back,
but
there's
certain
ways
that
you
can
bring
things
back.
You
know
myself.
I'm
signed
up
to
go
to
a
deal
to
walk
Etsy,
the
heart
clinic
in.
G
Well,
that's
great,
so
you
know
am
I
trying
to
do
something.
I
have
to
you
have
to
make
your
mind
up
to
do
what
you
want
to
do
and
I've
made
my
mind
up.
So
that's
I'm,
tired
of
people
telling
people
what
they
need
to
do
when
they
need
to
do
it.
That's
my
problem!
Well,
you
know,
and
young
people
they're
going
to
run
and
they're
going
to
walk
and
they're
gonna
ride.
Bicycles,
I
did
when
I
was
young
and
that's
a
long
time
ago,
two
more
days,
I'll
be
71.
Q
G
Know
but
other
than
that,
it's
a
it's.
It's
it's
a
good
day.
You
know,
but
it
goes
back
same
thing.
Let's
don't
push
the
issue
too
hard.
Our
employees
have
an
understanding,
and
you
know
they're.
They
run
the
organization
and
I
appreciate
it,
but
we
just
don't
need
to
keep
dumping
stuff
on
it.
You
know
let
it
let
it
flow.
We
just
say
where
we
want
to
go
and
that's
it.
You
know,
put
a
person
back
in
charge
of
that.
G
G
G
B
C
So
I
want
to
thank
Commissioner
fire
for
agreeing
with
me,
because
that's
what
he
described
is
exactly
what
I,
what
a
good
company
does
for
their
team
members,
because
they
provide
options
and
they
present
it
in
such
a
way
to
where
you
make
that
decision
on
whether
you
want
to
do
it,
and
then
you
do
it.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
our
options
are
too
small
and
that
any
investment
that
we're
making
those
options
is
going
is
going
to
return
money
to
the
taxpayers
in
saving
healthcare
costs,
and
it
is
proven
across
across
this
country.
C
So
we
just
have
to
get.
There
are
best
practices
out
there
and
there
are
world-class
companies
that
are
that
are
doing
this
and
making
these
investments,
and
we
just
need
to
find
out
who
they
are
and
see.
If
we
can,
if
we
can
afford
them,
and
if
our
team
members
want
them
and
if
they
do,
then
there
you
go.
G
We
can
bring,
we
can
bring
the
lady
back
that
did
this.
She
still
works
for
the
county
and
and
help
bring
all
this
back
forward.
It
wouldn't
take
that
long,
so
I
am
for
it,
but
there's
a
difference
different
way
to
do
it
without
taking
all
the
staff,
the
leaders
of
each
group
and
tell
them
they
need
to
do
so.
I
thank.
S
A
A
Okay,
don't
have
to
just
ask
her
all
right.
So
let's
go
ahead
on
this
motion.
You
know
I,
just
I'll
make
one
comment
on
it
before
we
do
vote
I.
Also,
you
know
I
wanna,
I'm
gonna
support
the
motion,
but
I
also
want
to
express
my
support
for
really
digging
into
this.
You
know
several
folks
of
email
me
or
called
me
and
said
hey.
Why
are
you
talking
about
this
right
now?
Why
are
these
recommendations
being
brought
forward
and
I
said
well,
I.
A
Think
the
reason
is
that
there
is
genuine
concern
about
the
just
the
growing
cost
of
of
this
of
these
benefits,
and
the
concern
is
that
if
they
continue
on
that
trajectory,
it's
going
to
consume
all
the
resources
for
so
many
other
priorities.
We
have
for
our
workforce
and
community
priorities.
So
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
take
deliberate
steps
to
manage
these
costs,
that
I
think
that
really
will
happen
and
I
think
we've
got
it.
A
We're
going
to
do
a
number
of
different
things
that
folks
have
talked
about
tonight
and
some
of
the
recommendations
that
are
in
the
proposed
policy.
We're
gonna
have
to
we're.
Gonna
have
to
do
some
of
these
things,
in
addition
to
other
things,
so
I'm
going
to
support
the
motion,
but
I
do
look
forward
to
working
with
staff
and
the
Commission
to
continue
this
and
really
make
this
a
focus
in
the
budget
process
this
coming
year,
and
so
thank
you
for
everyone's
thoughts
on
this.
A
A
T
C
A
D
To
move
can
I
make
a
motion,
yeah
I'd,
like
to
move
that
we
do
away
with
selling
the
vacation
back
and
for
the
simple
reason:
that's
not
fair
to
the
employees,
one
because
you
have
vacation
for
a
reason
to
take
the
time
off
with
your
family
two
is,
we
might
not
be
in
the
situation
when
the
day
if
people
were
taking
time
off
like
they
should
be-
and
the
third
reason
is
that
gives
us-
we
can
start
offsetting
with
the
money
we'll
save
from
that
the
health
insurance
the
loss
is
on
the
other
side.
Okay,.
C
So
I'm
not
going
to
support
the
respect
there.
The
motion
but
I'm
not
going
to
support
it.
I,
do
think
that
a
week
I
do
think
that
there
that
folks
do
sell.
That
I.
Think
right
now.
We're
unlimited
right
is
that
what
we're
at
right
now
yeah?
It's
still,
you
knew
you
knew
whatever
you
want
to
it's
unlimited,
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
mean
I
mentioned
two
weeks,
which
was
my
level
of
comfort.
I,
do
think
that
there
are
those
that
do
do
use
the
money
at
certain
times.
C
I,
don't
disagree
with
with
with
colleague
to
my
left
here,
Commissioner
Whiteside,
that
it
would
be
nice
for
people
to
take
the
time
off,
but
I
do
recognize
that
some
folks
use
it.
You
do
use
that
money
for
some
for
some
expenses
and-
and
it's
very
very
helpful
to
them.
I
would
have
supported
to
would
support
commissioner
Newman's
motion
of
a
week,
so
I
will
not
be
waiting
for
catch.
A
That's
right
currently
currently
unlimited
the
staff
recommendation
was
to
reduce
it
to
one
week
and
now
the
motion
is
to
simply
do
away
with
it,
which
would
make
it,
which
is
I,
think
there's
only
one
other
county
in
our
peer
group
that
allows
it
to
sale
of
it
at
all.
So
this
would
certainly
not
be
an
unusual
policy
for
a
county
to
not
allow
the
sale
of
those
days.
Do
I
have
a
question.
Do
we
know
we
had
data
on
how
much
we
think
it
would
save
if
we
reduce
it
to
one
to
one
week.
A
Q
B
M
Q
A
Proposals
looking
better
and
better
all
yes,
it
is
I,
say
you
know
I,
philosophically
I'm,
in
support
of
the
motion.
If
I
think
there
was
only
one
motion
that
would
pass
tonight,
I
would
vote
for
the
motion.
That's
on
the
table,
but
I
would
like
it
would
be
great
to
have
information
on
how
much
additional
funding
it
would
save.
I
do
think
you
know
one
of
the
folks
who
commented
last
at
the
last
meeting
said
I'd
much
rather
give
up
that
and
give
up
the
health
changes.
M
D
A
B
C
A
Right,
there's
a
motion
in
a
second
to
move
this
item
to
defer,
what's
the
appropriate
terminology
to
just
continue.
This
item
talk
to
October
16th,
all
right,
we'll
have
this
back
on
the
agenda.
October
16th
we'll
have
some
more
data
and
we
anticipate
we
will
vote
on
it
at
that
meeting.
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye
hi,
any
post,
all
right.
A
New
business,
we
have
a
item
to
consider
the
Buncombe
Weaverville
Greenway
interlocal
agreement.
Josh
o'connor
will
come
forward
to
present
this
item.
I
want
to
acknowledge
former
Weber
real
town
council
member
Doug
dearth,
who
is
with
us
this
evening.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
and
for
your
work
on
this.
This
project.
U
So
this
is
a
relatively
straightforward
Memorandum
of
Understanding
between
ourselves
and
the
town
and
Weaverville.
This
is
to
allow
us
to
work
in
conjunction
with
the
town,
to
execute
a
grant
that
we
have
through
the
federal
highway
administration,
Surface
Transportation
Block
Grant
program
to
allow
for
a
design
of
the
Reno
Creek
Greenway.
It's
approximately
two
to
three
mile
section
that
goes
just
east
of
Lake
Louise
and
will
extend
past
our
facility
at
Carbon
fields,
approximately
parallel
to
Reims
Creek,
so
we'll
be
managing
and
overseeing
the
grant
just
because
of
the
the
size
of
our
department.
U
F
C
C
C
P
H
$60,000
is
nothing
that's
just
peanuts,
but
Alan
won't
call
your
wife
and
tell
her
that's
taxes
over
49
houses
in
Buncombe,
County,
okay,
49
average
houses.
So
you
look
at
that
and
you
look
at
what
you
spent
for
these
other
Green
Wave's
and
you
look
at
40,000
for
a
voting
booth
which
is
29
houses.
That's
39,
plus
29.
That's
39,
49
59!
That's
about
70
houses,
taxes
from
average
houses
in
Buncombe
County
based
upon
2018
data.
That's
your
spending!
I!
Think
you
need
to
break
down
every
dime.
H
You
spend
into
houses
that
really
be
nice,
wouldn't
it
I
think
about
that.
Just
break
it
down.
This
is
how
many
houses
we're
going
to
take
the
taxes
from
I
think
it
might
make
you
a
little
bit
more
in
tune
to
save
money
and
hold
on
to
that
house,
because
who's
living
in
that
house,
probably
somebody
on
a
retired
fixed
income
if
they
have
not
been
elected
a
county.
Commissioner.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor
or
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
next
step.
We
have
consideration
of
a
56700
$15
budget
amendment
for
the
CLA
audit
contract
and
amended
completion
date
of
January
31st
2019
in
jennifer
Chilton.
Our
Budget
Manager
will
present
this
item.
V
Good
evening,
chairman
and
board
of
commissioners
I'm,
so
yes
on
your
budget,
amendment
summary,
which
actually
was
posted
under
the
consent
agenda.
The
one
budget
amendment
request
that
was
brought
forward
to
new
business
is
one
for
a
request
to
use
fifty
six
thousand
seven
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars
of
the
general
government
contingency,
which
is
already
part
of
your
appropriated
budget
and
transfer
that
to
the
cost
Center
of
Finance
to
increase
the
contract
maximum
amount
for
our
finance
audit
contract
with
Clifton,
Larsen
and
Allen.
A
B
A
C
C
So
that's
why
this
was
pulled
pulled
up.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
comment
on
the
length
of
what's
in
a
new
business.
The
reason
that
there's
so
many
items
in
new
business
is
because
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
things
shoved
into
the
consent
agenda
and
even
though
it
takes
a
long
time,
I
appreciate
the
appreciation,
staff
and
I
appreciate
the
Commission
for
sitting
in
and
that's
going
through
and
getting
the
detail
on
it
soon.
Well,.
A
Thank
you
for
saying
that
mr.
wood
and
I
discussed
a
few
of
these
items.
What
might
go
under
consent?
What
might
we
put
on
the
regular
agenda?
I
think
I
figured
a
lot
of
these
would
be
consent,
consensus
items,
but
you
know,
but
we
do
think
it's
important
is
especially
things
related
to
the
audits
that
process.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
everything.
We're
doing,
and
anybody
has
a
question
has
a
chance
to
task
it.
I
just.
M
Like
to
express
appreciation
to
commissioners,
Presley
and
Whitesides,
and
the
members
of
the
audit
committee
and
our
internal
auditor
y'all
are
doing
a
lot
of
extra
work
this
year
and
just
appreciate
the
way
you're
rising
to
the
moment
and
giving
us
an
opportunity
to
get
the
an
audit,
that's
as
thorough
and
robust
as
it
needs
to
be.
So.
Thank
you
all.
F
A
K
You
again
mr.
chair
commissioners
and
members
of
the
public
like
to
share
with
you
tonight
a
few
slides
that
just
give
a
general
outline
of
the
affordable
housing
services
program
every
year.
This
is
part
of
a
competitive
price
process
and
we
have
a
number
of
components
of
the
programs
that
benefit
our
citizens
in
ways
that
they
may
be
able
to
use,
affordable
housing
and
some
of
the
subject
programs.
We
have
a
just
a
brief
slideshow
if
I'll
go
ahead
and
bring
that
up.
Please
and
I'll
select
to
make
note
on
the
agenda
just
so.
K
This
doesn't
get
confusing
the
way
this
was
broken
out
in
your
packet.
You'll
have
an
application
for
the
affordable
housing
services
program,
a
manufactured
home
removal
policy,
the
PowerPoint
presentation
which
I'm
getting
ready
to
go
over
and
then
the
resolution
is
as
a
whole
we're
just
going
to
go
over
some
of
the
changes
and
if
you
agree
with
the
changes,
you'll
adopt
a
resolution
that
says
you
agree
with
the
changes
that
staffs
proposed.
K
Okay,
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
it's
not
too
flashy
anyway.
So
I
think
you
can
work
with
me
on
that.
The
affordable
housing
services
program
it
was
began
in
2004.
There
are
a
number
of
goals
that
were
part
of
it.
It
was
to
increase
the
stock
of
affordable
housing,
preserve
existing
affordable
housing,
reduce
substandard
housing
and
support
homeownership
initiatives
such
as
things
like
downpayment
assistance
program.
K
The
needs
of
the
community
vary
from
year
to
year,
so
we
come
with
you
with
with
adjustments
and
sort
of
provide
an
update
on
a
year
to
year
these
programs.
They
consist
of
different
funding
opportunities.
Some
come
in
the
form
of
grants,
low-interest
loans,
and
some
are
one
of
them,
at
least
as
a
rebate
offered
for
developers
of
affordable
housing.
K
There
are
a
number
of
eligible
activities
associated
with
the
Umbrella
of
the
affordable
housing
services
program.
Tonight,
we'd
like
to
focus
on
two
items
that
we're
making
some
changes
to,
and
just
a
note
for,
a
snapshot
in
the
calendar
year
of
calendar
years
of
the
fiscal
year
2016
through
2018,
the
affordable
housing
services
program
has
been
able
to
support
three
hundred
and
eighty
seven
units
of
affordable
housing.
K
One
of
the
things
we're
noticing
specifically
with
this
community
is
for
our
existing
homeowners
and
residents.
They
struggle
with
emergency
housing
repair
if
you
get
a
hole
in
your
roof
and
it's
not
repaired
and
it's
not
mitigated
that
starts
the
downward
spiral.
If
folks
can't
take
care
of
what
they've
got
it
ends
up,
just
you
know
just
immediately
adding
up
to
all
kinds
of
different
other
problems.
K
Mold
mold
leads
to
degradation
floorboards,
you
name
it
so
as
part
of
the
new
budget
and
the
commissioners
adopted
and
and
gave
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
more
to
the
affordable
housing
services
program.
We'd
like
to
use
that
money
to
target
our
citizens
that
are
in
need
of
some
of
these
emergency
repairs
and
it's
not
just
a
roof.
It
could
be
your
HVAC
systems
out
and
you
don't
have
heat
for
the
winter
or
you
have
a
septic
system,
that's
backed
up
and
you
create
all
sorts
of
environmental
problems.
K
We'd
also
like
to
do
a
few
other
housekeeping
items
to
the
application
that
includes
updating
the
HUD
purchase
price,
that's
just
consistent
with
federal
guidelines,
and
we
also
work
with
other
organizations
within
our
County
Health
and
Human
Services,
adult
program
services
and
the
county's
building
permits
and
inspections
department.
We
work
with
them
on
repairs,
not
just
for
the
ones
that
I
mentioned
but
say
somebody
needs
an
ad
a
ramp
to
get
it
up
into
their
to
their
house.
Now.
Those
are
just
some
of
the
things
we'd
like
to
help
with
and
continue
to
assist.
K
It's
anticipated
with
that
one
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
that
we
could
help
with
the
repairs
of
twenty
to
twenty-five
additional
structures,
and
sometimes
that's
with
a
unit
that
may
have
two
critical
needs
like
a
roof
and
a
septic
system
based
on
that
one
of
the
components
of
the
Affordable
Housing
Services
program,
that's
been
fairly
popular
has
been
the
manufactured
home
removal
program.
Hey
here
we
go,
got
excited
man.
K
Okay,
so
on
the
manufactured
home
removal
program,
it's
popular
and
we
know
it's
working
because
we
get
plenty
of
calls.
So
one
of
the
changes
we
made
is
we
brought
that
fully
into
the
planning
department.
We
take
the
phone
calls.
We
assist
folks
with
making
sure
that
they
meet
the
application
criteria.
We
work
with
a
contractor
to
remove
a
dilapidated
home
and
then
what
we
are
recommending
this
year
is
that
there's
a
replacement
component.
K
So
if
someone
calls
us
and
and
they
meet
the
criteria
to
have
one
removed
and
they
meet
the
eligibility
requirements
that
they
can
actually
replace
it
with
another
manufactured
home
or
stick-built,
home
or
modular
home.
So
that's
a
change
and
that
essentially
wraps
up
my
presentation.
I
would
like
to
give
for
you
guys
couple
key
dates:
we'd
like
to
advertise
our
application
process
on
October
7th.
The
deadline
will
be
October,
26th
and
we'd
like
to
come
back
to
you
in
November,
with
a
list
of
folks
that
meet
the
criteria
for
the
affordable
housing
services
program.
K
C
So
I
got
a
question
about
the
manufacturing
home
removal.
Can
you
explain
the
explain
the
difference
on
the?
Why
and
why
this
is?
It's
is
such
a
big
deal
previously?
You
had
a
certain
amount
of
time,
okay,
so
we're
to
replace
it.
This
is
very.
This
is
a
this
is
a
very
important
part
of
this
program.
K
K
Previously,
the
policy
said
that
you
had
a
one-year
waiting
period,
so
basically,
this
change
would
say
that
if
you
meet
requirements
you
can
go
ahead
and
and
and
you
had
the
county
pay
to
have
it
removed
and
he
meet
requirement
the
income
eligibility
requirements.
You
can
actually
replace
it
and
forgo
that
one-year
requirement
now.
One
one
thing
I'd
like
to
make
clear
is:
this
is
not
part
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
K
So
one
thing
you
instructed
staff
to
look
at
back
in
April
was
to
look
at
some
changes
for
the
zoning
ordinance
and
in
order
to
allow
manufactured
homes
to
have
the
ability
to
be
placed
in
other
residential
zoning
districts.
We
are
actually
going
to
be
advancing
with
that
and
moving
that
forward
as
a
discussion
item
in
October
with
the
Planning
Board.
So
you
will
be
seeing
that
as
a
text
amendment
at
a
later
date.
C
And
we,
you
know,
we've
talked
about
that
firm
for
a
long
time
and
I
know
that
we
have
enough
commissioners
to
be
able
to.
You
know
for
planning
to
just
discuss
it,
which
is
you
know,
allowing
multi
section,
new
construction
homes
in
r1
r2
is
kind
of
a
starting
point
or
looking
at
that,
and
so
this
is
a
really
big
deal.
You
know
being
in
the
industry
for
so
long.
C
K
Frame,
it's
a
great
question.
So
basically,
what
we
wanted
to
prevent-
and
it's
especially
important
to
note
it
now
that
we're
in
a
development
boom
again,
is
that
we
didn't
want
folks
moving
in
from
out
of
state
snatching
up
a
bunch
of
properties
calling
the
county
to
have
them.
Remove
manufactured
homes,
only
to
go
right
behind
them
and
put
down
plunk
down
a
new
home
and
turn
buck.
K
A
K
But
this
is
the
this:
is
the
policy
of
the
manufactured
home
removal
if
they
call
the
county
to
actually
come
out
and
remove
the
manufactured
home
off
the
property
for
them,
there's
nothing
to
prevent
someone
from
buying
a
property
moving
the
manufacturer
at
home
off
themselves.
It's
just
this
policy
the
one
year.
That's
what
we're
changing.
If
you
make
use
of
this
of
this
program,.
A
K
B
R
R
If
a
homeowner
asks
the
county
to
include
their
manufactured
home
to
be
removed
through
the
bid
process
that
we
have.
If
we
remove
that
home
in
the
past,
they
had
to
wait
one
year
in
order
to
replace
that
home
with
another,
regardless
of
whether
it
was
manufactured,
Homer
stick-built.
The
change
is,
if
it's
your
primary
residence,
you
can
ask
the
county
and
participate
in
the
program
and
then
replace
the
manufactured
home
with
whatever
top
structure
that
you
want
within
that
one
year
period,
if
you
are
the
if
it's
your
primary
residence.
R
R
A
K
H
The
house
is
rotting
down.
It
gets
mode
one
stay
year
and
they're
holding
it
as
an
investment.
The
county
does
have
the
wherewithal
and
it's
means
to
remove
those
structures.
Now,
when
I
requested
that
that
be
using
evaluating
my
property,
I
was
told
old
pieces
of
property,
like
that's
a
gold
mine
but
they're
not
taxed
as
a
gold
mine,
they're
actually
downgraded
because
of
that
structure.
So
the
county
can
remove
that
structure
and
add
that
additional
cost
own
to
the
tax
bill
for
that
piece
of
property
and
when
it
is
sold
or
if
it's
developed.
H
If
they're
faced
with
the
choice
of
doing
that
and
fixing
it
up
or
having
it
torn
down,
what
might
they
do?
You're
not
telling
them
what
to
do
Joe
you're,
giving
them
a
choice?
You
tear
it
down
or
you
fix
it
up.
The
course
is
yours
and
I
would
like
to
see
that
considered
by
these
folks,
as
well
as
by
this
commission.
J
Mean
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
Don
that's
the
most
intelligent
thing
that
I
have
ever
heard.
You
say
right:
there
I
mean
I'm
hearing
it
from
my
district.
All
the
time
about
the
abandoned
houses
and
I've
never
wondered
why
someone
has
not
come
up
with
the
policy
the
tearing
down
and
fix
them,
because
the
land
is
gonna,
be
so
much
more
valuable.
With
a
vacant
lot
there
and
and
anybody's
ever
seen
a
place.
That's
been
mowed
one
time
in
a
year.
You
don't
want
to
live
next
door
to
it.
C
A
All
right
further
discussion,
I
do
have
one
question
on
the
home
repair
proposal.
Mr.
Pennington,
you
know
and
I'm
all
for
it
I
think
it's
a
big
need
in
the
county.
The
recommendation
right
now
is
that
that
those
additional
funds
that
were
appropriated
be
used
for
that
focus
area
for
this
budget
cycle.
So
it's
not
a
longer-term
policy,
it's,
but
it's
basically
saying
for
this
year.
That's
where
you'd
like
to
invest
some.
Those
additional
resources.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
K
And
we,
basically,
if
we
find
something
that
works,
really
well
we'd
like
to
report
to
you
on
the
next
year
and
say:
hey
this.
This
program
had
this
many
applicants.
This
component
had
that
many,
but
so
basically
it's
on
a
trial
run,
and
this
is
kind
of
where
we're
seeing
a
need.
So
we're
that's.
Why
we're
bringing
it
to.
A
So
I'm
gonna
support
the
motion.
You
know
there's
such
a
big.
This
is
such
a
big
issue
in
the
community
there's,
so
many
different
strategies
that
you
know
could
be
pursued.
I
would
be.
You
know,
would
be
more
reluctant
to
support
this
if
it
was
sort
of
a
longer-term
recurring
commitment
to
this
particular
area,
not
that
the
needs
not
there,
it
is,
but
you
know
my
hope
is
that
we'll
continue
to
look
at
just
sort
of
how
to
stretch
these
dollars
the
furthest,
how
to
leverage
funds
and
I
guess
I'm.
A
You
know
so
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
for
this
year,
but
I
would
I
would
not
want
to
have
a
presumption
that
we're
gonna
continue
to
keep
this
program
area
elevated
at
that
level
of
funding
compared
to
some
other
options.
We
might
want
to
look
at
you
know
for
the
future
years,
especially
if
we
have
you
know
additional
resources
to
invest
in
it.
So
I
just.
B
Mountain
housing
gave
us
a
presentation
about
the
home
repairs
and
it
is.
It
makes
your
heart
stop
a
little
bit
to
see
what
people
wait
for
you
know
what
they
live
through
and
I
just
commend
that
work,
because,
literally
by
putting
a
ramp
in
fixing
a
leak,
you're
changing
someone's
whole
life
and
give
it
making
them
more.
I
mean
we
have
people
in
Buncombe
County
who
aren't
ever
able
to
get
warm.
So
you
know
really
the
extraordinary
work.
M
We
need
to
keep
taking
under
the
umbrella
of
the
strategic
priority
we
passed
last
year
around
ensuring
that
everyone
has
safe
and
affordable
housing
in
our
community,
so
we'd
love
to
keep
hearing
ideas
from
planning
staff
about
other
ways
to
respond
both
to
the
critical
acute
needs
that
people
have,
which
often
times
can't
wait
another
day,
but
also
to
sort
of
the
longer-term
bigger
picture
thinking
about
how
to
really
move
the
needle
on
creating
more
more
options
for
affordable
housing.
So
thank
you
all
for
this
and
look
forward
to
supporting
it.
A
E
Okay,
how's
that
in
reviewing
the
entire
situation,
it's
clear
we
need
to
proceed
as
soon
as
possible
with
engineering
and
installation
of
apparatus
in
any
public.
Schools
with
an
engineering
study
determines
are
necessary
in
working
with
the
IT
department,
which
will
manage
the
project
they
have
two
quotes
for
the
engineering
study,
with
the
lowest
being
$87,000
and
I've
attached
a
copy
of
that
proposal.
E
It's
our
opinion
that
we
should
study
all
42,
Buncombe,
County,
Schools,
all
10
Asheville,
City,
Schools,
and
also
eight
charter
schools
for
a
total
of
60,
while
charter
schools
should
point
out,
other
schools
are
public
schools,
but
they
do
not
share
in
the
capital
outlay
money
only
operating
money
using
numbers
from
Union
County.
The
IT
department
estimates
that
on
average,
the
installation
should
cost
about
eighty
thousand
dollars
per
school.
E
They
do
not
believe
that
all
the
schools
will
need
the
antennas,
as
they
have
reported
no
problems
in
some
schools
in
either
radio
signal
transmission
or
reception.
Consequently,
we
believe,
potentially
about
30
to
Buncombe,
County
schools
and
Asheville
city
schools
may
need
this
solution,
so
the
current
granted
match
will
provide
six
hundred
twenty-five
thousand
of
the
cost.
What
I'm
requesting
is
that
you
authorize
me
to
make
a
proposal
for
the
following
funding
in
October
to
the
school
capital
fund,
Commission,
which
allocates
the
one-half
of
the
article
39
sales
tax
reserved
for
school
capital
projects.
E
So
what
you
would
have
is
seventy
five
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
for
the
engineering
study
of
fifty-two
schools
and
again
the
charter.
Schools
could
not
be
included
in
that
because
they
can't
share
in
that
capital
money.
But
we
would.
We
would
pay
that
small
portion
for
them.
Then
we
would
have
2.56
million
installation
of
B
das.
&Amp;
das
is
in
32
schools.
Again,
that's
an
estimate,
but
it's
the
closest
number
we
have
so
the
total
cost
will
be
2
million
635
400.
E
But
when
you
subtract
the
625,000
we
already
have
in
the
granted
match,
the
total
funding
request
would
be
for
two
million
ten
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
and
I
just
want
to
stress
that
without
adequate
radio
transmission
and
reception
inside
these
buildings
we're
putting
our
first
responders
our
students,
our
faculty
and
staff
in
jeopardy.
Should
we
have
a
public
safety
incident
because
our
first
responders
would
not
be
able
to
communicate
with
inside
and
outside
of
the
building.
So
that's
what
we're
requesting
a
half
talk
to
both
the
school
superintendents
they're
supportive
of
this
request.
E
A
I'll
just
make
a
couple
comments.
I
think
we
should
absolutely
be
following
up
on
this
and
looking
at
this,
in
my
only
comment
is
the
I
know
having
served
on
that
Commission
with
Commissioner
frost,
there's
always
a
lot
of
tough
decisions,
because
there's
a
lot
of
this
is
an
arena
where
there's
always
a
lot
of
compelling
projects
and
a
lot
of
them
have
to
do
with
health
and
safety
issues
as
well
within
our
school
building.
A
So
this
this
will
not
be
the
only
project
that
the
Commission
will
be
looking
at
related
to
school
safety
as
well
as
just
other.
You
know
really
important
projects,
I
mean
there's
just
roofs
that
have
to
be
replaced,
there's
things
that
just
have
to
be
fixed,
so
it's
always
a
there's,
always
tough
decisions
there,
but
I
think
we
should
absolutely
go
in
there
and
make
sure
this
is
getting
looked
at
and
I
think
you
know
the
goals
we
want
to
get.
A
This
done
we'll
have
to
see
how
many
dollars
are
available
in
this
cycle
and
look
at
the
schedule,
but
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
a
very
important
discussion
to
continue
some
supportive
of
it
zero.
Let's
do
a
motion
to
just
to
go
ahead
and
prove
that
we
want
to
have
this.
The
county
manager
bring
this
to
the
attention
of
the
school
capital
fund
Commission.
So.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Next
up,
we
have
consideration
of
a
contract
with
tax
Management
Associates
Inc,
to
provide
excuse
me
to
provide
business,
personal
property
services
for
tax
listing
and
asset
cost
analysis
for
all
mission.
Health
System
Inc
properties
that
a
lot
of
really
long
subject
matter
items.
W
Mr.
chairman,
commissioners,
what
you
do
have
in
front
of
you,
as
you
just
elaborated
on,
is
a
proposed
contract
for
tax
management
associates
to
assist
our
business
personal
property
department
with
the
listing
and
the
cost
analysis
on
all
mission
health
care,
personal
property
assets
that
would
not
include
real
estate.
We
have
value
on
real
estate.
We
know
what
that
is,
but
we
do
not
have
a
clear
understanding
of
all
the
personal
property
assets.
This
is
a
huge
undertaking.
It's
a
large
amount
of
assets.
W
A
I'm
very
supportive
of
this.
It's
obviously
important
if
this
transaction
goes
forward,
as
it
looks
like
it
appears
to
be
moving
towards
that
we
get
all
this
dialed
in
correctly,
and
you
know,
is
that
there
was
an
event
hosted
by
the
dogwood
trust
over
the
weekend
to
kind
of
talk
about
what
that
fund
is
gonna,
be
doing,
and
once
that's
up
and
running.
There
were
some
folks,
and
there
are
folks
from
all
around
Western
North
Carolina,
who
were
invited
to
it.
A
None
none
nearly
as
significant
as
Buncombe
County,
of
course,
but
I'm,
just
an
idea
would
be
I,
don't
know
if
we've
had
any
communications
with
any
of
these
other
smaller
counties,
but
they're
gonna
be
facing
some
of
these
same
issues
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
if
we're
going
through
this
process,
if
maybe
there's
some
way,
we
might
be
able
to
I
gotta,
do
it
together.
You
know
if
we're
hiring
these
really
specialized
professional
folks,
maybe
it
may
be
worth
reaching
out
to
some
of
the
other
rural
counties.
Actually,
this.
W
This
started
as
a
collaborative
effort.
I
wrote
with
all
the
counties
in
western
Oklahoma
that
have
mission
properties
yeah.
Those
include
five
and
six
five
or
six
counties
in
which
I
have
spoken
with
directly
to
ask
them
to
come
on
board
that
we
could
get
tax
management
so
she's
to
do
this
not
only
for
Buncombe,
because
there's
so
many
the
assets.
That's
gonna,
be
on
the
Buckham
mission,
health
care
books
here,
but
they're
located
in
other
counties,
and
we
also
negotiated
a
better
price
with
tax
management
associates
for
all
counties.
Dejar.
A
M
W
Tax
mentor,
so
they
are,
you
should
also
know
they're,
currently
a
contractor
for
us.
We
use
them
currently
for
business
audits
for
all
of
our
business
accounts.
They
do
X
amount
a
number
for
us
per
year,
they're
located
their
headquarters
in
Charlotte.
They
work
all
across
the
United
States.
They
are
a
firm
of
accountants
and
CPAs
and
who
concentrate
mostly
on
ad
valorem
tax
and
also
business
personal
property
tax.
So
they
have
many
accounts
and
they've
done
many
healthcare
systems
also
and
hospitals.
So
they
do
have
experience
in
this
field.
F
A
W
E
So
what
we're
proposing
is
that
you
go
on
record
as
saying
that
you
will
approve
up
to
40,000
of
additional
funding
for
early
sites.
We
are
not
giving
you
a
budget
amendment
yet
because
in
talking
to
mr.
Bellairs,
who
runs
the
Board
of
Elections,
she
believes
she
may
be
able
to
absorb
some
of
this
cost.
E
So
we
would
come
back
to
you
in
the
spring
with
any
additional
cost
at
that
point,
but
you
do
need
to
go
on
record,
in
my
opinion,
to
say
that
you
are
going
to
fund
this,
because
the
State
Board
of
Elections
has
ordered
that
there
will
be
the
the
extra
site
estimate
is
somewhere
around
$40,000.
Okay,
so.
A
E
A
Law
to
provide
it
all
right.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
You
know
before
we
dive
into
this
I.
Just
one
thing
I'd
like
to
just
say
is
you
know,
I
think
that
supporting
early
voting
is
really
important.
I'm,
very
supportive
of
us
doing
this
and
I'm
glad
we
have
the
11
the
11
sites,
but
I
will
I
would
I
do
want
to
say
to
my
other
commissioners
that
you
know
when
I
was
approached
by
constituents
asking
for
this
and
I
said
yes,
I'm
very
open
to
this
I'm
supportive
of
it.
A
I
did
not
talk
to
all
the
commissioners
about
it
before
I
wrote
a
letter
to
the
Board
of
Elections,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
wish
I
had
you
know,
frankly,
it's
one
of
those
things
where
sometimes
you
just
run
out
of
time,
and
that
was
the
situation
on
that,
but
I
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that,
and
some
folks
expressed
concern
about
it.
I
think
that's
I
think
that's
legit,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
at
the
outset,
I
will.
M
D
J
Okay,
so
we're
obligated
to
pay
for
the
levites
site
right.
Are
we
obligated
to
where
that
site
will
be?
Because
you
know
my
concern
is
Lester
marner's
rail
Jupiter,
even
the
Candler
area,
has
a
much
longer
distance
to
go.
You
know
in
district
3
we
have
two
sites,
incan
library
and
the
overlooked
library-
we're
talking
about
some
12
15
miles
apart
and
on
two
of
the
most
congested
highways
Hendersons,
our
highway
191
of
getting
there.
So
where
does
that
put
that
we?
We
have
not
got
the
destination
yet
we're
just
going
to
do
one
additional.
J
E
J
A
Know
it's
a
it's
an
interesting
point
and
you
know
I
think
honestly,
I,
don't
remember
this
issue
coming
up
before
us
before
I
mean
usually
the
Board
of
Elections.
It's
my
understanding.
It's
usually
been
a
consensus.
This
year
wasn't
a
consensus.
A
There
were
a
couple
different
ideas,
but
I
mean
I,
guess
I
would
just
say
with
the
benefit
of
hindsight,
if
it,
if,
if
it
is
gonna,
come
back
up
where
we're
gonna
be
asked
to
do
more,
funding
in
the
future
would
be
nice
to
have
that
earlier,
so
that
we
could,
you
know
we
could
all
look
at
this
and
and
not
have
it
kind
of
AB
in
such
a
kind
of
into
the
process
sort
of
sort
of
thing,
because
I
think
it's
a
very
good
good
question,
commissioner,
raises
alright.
There's
a
motion.
G
Ready
for
some
discussion,
brownie
I,
don't
care
if
you
didn't
have
five
minutes
to
call
me
and
Joe
and
Robert
I,
don't
give
a
damn.
Okay,
I'm
a
commissioner.
My
name
was
on
that
letter
that
you
sent
down
there
that
never
came
through
this
building.
Never
was
in
this
building.
I
had
to
get
it
from
Jake
win
on
Friday.
After
they
went
down
there
on
Saturday
you're
right
you're,
a
one-man
band.
That's
all
you
are
no
mm
and
you
hang
in
there
with
him
really
good,
but
this
site
it's
too
mouse.
G
There's
a
bus
can
run
between
n,
hey
Jake.
How
about
going
to
get
in
that
lady?
It's
18
miles
away
and
Bernardsville
from
we
prevail
voting
place,
don't
have
any
blessings
out
there,
but
we
gonna
make
damn
good
sure
we're
gonna,
get
them
downtown
anyway.
That's
exactly
what
you
did.
The
voting
place
was
already
there
done.
G
503
people
voted
for
it.
They
had
the
money
for
that
and
you
decided
to
go
off
on
your
own
by
your
little
self.
With
his
letter
that
says
this
is
the
African
Americans
need
more
things
we'll
have
about
the
poor
old
farm
around
Barnesville
or,
as
Robert
said,
San
Dimas
or
these
other
areas.
You
didn't
think
about
them.
You
don't
because
you
live
in
the
city
and
that's
exactly
what
you
did.
That's
exactly
what
happened.
Brownie
fell
into
it
with
you
and
I.
G
Don't
care
what
you
say:
brownie
five
minutes
to
Mike
friar
Robert
Pressley
of
Joe
Belcher.
You
had
it
it
wasn't
that
short
a
time.
Where'd
you'd
write
the
letter
because
it
some
Buncombe
County
stationery
had
my
name
on
it.
I
didn't
I,
didn't
say
anything
about
this,
not
at
all,
but
this
has
happened
more
than
one
time
when
you
worked
over
in
that
other
building.
This
is
what
you
do
and
you
really
don't
care
you
care
for
what
you
want
to
and
that's
a
period
simple
and
that's
it.
I
know.
G
I'm
old
and
I
know
I'm,
probably
senile.
But
the
fact
is,
you
took
a
job
for
the
county,
not
the
damn,
City.
Okay,
when
that
came
up
that
should
have
never
even
been
brought
it
period,
because
the
place
that
was
on
the
oneth
original
one
was
for
house
said
he
votes
at
and
a
lot
of
other
people
in
the
area.
When
you're
talking
three
people
an
hour
going
through
and
spend
$40,000,
you
don't
care
about.
The
people's
money.
I
can
tell
that
I
got
more.
G
D
Could
I
just
say
something
good,
because
I
think
this
site
is
in
my
district
and
it
really
concerns
me
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
concerned
about
and
I
guess
Joe.
You
talked
about
looking
at
it
through
different
lenses
and
I'm,
looking
at
it
through
the
lens
of
the
color
of
my
skin,
one
of
the
complaints
I
have
today
about
elections
nationally
locally
and
statewide.
It
appears
to
me
that
we
are
trying
to
keep
certain
segments
of
the
population
from
voting
and
one
of
those
segments
is
African
Americans.
D
Now
this
precinct
we're
talking
about
is
the
Wesley
grant
precinct.
That's
where
I
vote?
Okay,
the
majority
of
African
Americans
in
Buncombe
County,
now
probably
lives
in
a
two
mile
radius
of
that
precinct.
We
are
sending
a
bad
message
when
we
say,
and
not
only
that
it's
in
a
good
location,
because
you
have
the
people
going
to
Buncombe
tech.
You
have
the
people
going
to
Ashe
for
high.
X
A
X
Trina
Velez
runs
a
dynamite
operation
at
the
Board
of
Elections.
She
submitted
a
budget,
y'all
approved
it.
We
were
good
to
go
and
then
the
North
Carolina
General
Assembly
pulled
another
rabbit
out
of
its
dirty
dirty
hat
and
gave
100
counties
an
unfunded
mandate
to
have
their
early
voting
sites
open
from
7
a.m.
to
7
p.m.
Monday
through
Friday,
and
if
you
had
one
site
open
those
hours
you
had
to
have
all
the
sites
open
that
hours.
We
went
into
this
process
planning
on
15
early
voting
sites.
X
Our
budget
would
have
supported
that
with
our
regular
hours
of
operation,
but
some
members
of
the
General
Assembly
thought
better.
They
opposed
local
control.
They
insisted
on
finding
innovative
ways
to
suppress
the
vote.
What
we
are
looking
at
in
Buncombe
County
for
this
general
election
is
fewer
early
voting
sites
and
fewer
early
voting
hours.
Thank
You
general
assembly
mission
accomplished
well
I
agree
with
Commissioner
Whitesides.
Our
people
deserve
better
than
that
much
better
than
that,
and
the
simple
fact
is
30.
Valley
Street
would
never
ever
serve
as
a
main
site
for
our
elections.
X
North
Carolina
law
requires
that
if
we
are
not
using
the
Board
of
Elections
office
as
an
early
voting
site,
then
we
must
have
another
site
that
is
reasonably
proximate
to
that
office.
Dr.
Wesley
grant
senior
Southside
Center
is
a
little
over
half
a
mile
away.
The
Board
of
Elections
Office.
You
can
walk
there.
I
have
there
are
no
traffic
signals.
You
walk
through
a
neighborhood
with
professional
offices
and
residences.
X
My
three
colleagues
didn't
understand
how
far
away
30
Valley
Street
was
from
the
BOE
office
and
the
challenge
that
it
presents
to
people
and
when
they
go
to
the
Biot
office.
Boe
office
for
service
are
told.
Well,
no,
the
early
voting
site.
Good
luck.
You
got
to
drive
all
the
way
up
to
the
central
business
district
to
get
there,
we
got
grant
center
and
it
makes
it
a
whole
lot
easier
for
all
voters.
Please
support
this
resolution.
Thank
you.
S
Y
My
name
is
Annie,
but
sner
and
I
spend
most
of
my
life,
making
it
easier
for
people
to
vote
all
over
Buncombe
County.
And
yes,
it's
hard
for
people
to
vote
in
the
rural
area.
I
know
because
I
spend
every
Sunday
year-round,
registering
voters
and
helping
them
apply
for
absentee
ballots
in
the
rural
area
of
Buncombe
County.
However,
I
spend
more
time
within
the
city
and
a
lot
of
time
with
the
residents
of
Bartlett
arms
people
who
live
in
Livingston,
Heights
and
I
also
spend
a
lot
of
time
at
green
opportunities.
Y
When
I
went
to
Wake
Forest
with
Jake
when
he
protested
the
early
voting
fan.
The
early
voting
plan
from
the
county
Jake
was
a
hero
about
that
and
it
wasn't
about
race.
It
was
about
more
people.
Voting
when
we
came
back,
I
went
to
South
Side
and
interviewed
some
of
my
friends
there
about
having
Wesley
grant
as
a
voting
site.
One
gentleman
sitting
at
the
bus
stop
described
if
I
had
to
go
vote
on
Valley
Street,
it
would
require
two
bus
rides.
One
transfer
and
hiking
down
a
hill
I
wouldn't
vote.
Y
P
Thank
You
commissioners,
my
name
is
George
Elam
I
live
in
Weaverville
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
this
would
never
have
even
been
on
your
radar.
Had
the
General
Assembly
not
mandated
the
extra
hours
you
wouldn't
even
be
talking
about
right
now.
So
if
there's
blame
to
go
around
anywhere,
try
to
focus
it
in
the
right
direction.
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you.
O
Mr.
chairman
and
commissioners
public,
my
name
is
Steven
Duncan
I
live
in
the
city,
I
live
in
Hall
Creek
I
am
reluctant
to
be
able
to
guess
at
what
number
my
precinct
is,
but
I
can
tell
you
where
I
vote
I
also
serve
on
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Elections
and
I
by
virtue
of
I
guess
the
last
guy
standing
next
to
Jake
I
got
elected
the
secretary
I.
O
Don't
have
enough
time
in
the
three
minutes
allotted
to
be
able
to
address
some
of
the
suggestions
that
have
been
made,
that
don't
exactly
go
with
what
I
remember
while
I
was
sitting
in
those
discussions,
I
will
say
that
Westar
Grant
was
never
meant
to
be
excluded.
That
was
not
the
purpose
of
the
discussions
that
were
had.
It
was
in
the
original
proposed
ten
sites
and
and
was
going
to
being
included.
The
question
was
raised
was:
was
that
suitable,
physically
as
the
best
possible
site?
O
Having
that
question
brought
up,
we
actually
delayed
for
two
days
our
final
decision,
so
that
we
could
investigate
if
there
was
a
potential
better
site,
a
site
that
had
been
used
previously.
It
was
determined
that
that
site
could
not
be
used
and
for
for
physical
and
other
reasons
it
was
not
available.
So
we
proceeded
to
question
whether
another
one
would
be
possible.
30,
Valley
Street
was
suggested.
O
It
was
decided
that
in
disgust-
and
my
understanding
was-
is
that
it
was
some
belief
that
Valley
Street
may
be
superior
to
West.
The
grant
big
beg
pardon.
This
question
was
was
was
brought
up
and
and
when
asked
which
one
was
better
between
the
two,
there
was
no
actual
agreement,
but
it
was
suggested
that
we
should
go
with
eleven
sites,
not
yeah.
There
was
no
intent
of
one
or
the
other.
They
wanted
eleven
sites.
O
I
can't
speak
for
the
majority
of
the
board,
but
you
know
whichever
site
work
best
I
think
was
going
to
be
and
if
it
was
going
to
be
Wesley
grant,
then
that
was
fine.
Our
next
consideration
was
and
I've
got
a
minute
left
and
I
would
go
as
quickly
as
I.
Possibly
can
is
I've
been
involved
in
local
government
I
understand
to
some
degree
the
physical
control
act
that
y'all
have
to
operate.
Under
my
background,
my
master's
degrees,
town,
county
city
management,
I've,
been
involved
for
over
30
years.
O
O
We
tried
to
operate
within
the
funding
that
you
provided
I,
don't
think
it's
proper
for
any
department
at
any
time,
whether
it's
an
appointed
board
or
otherwise,
to
usurp
your
responsibilities
and
your
your
your
rights
to
make
a
budgetary
decision
and,
as
such,
that's
why
we're
here
today
is
we
felt
like
it
was
appropriate
to
ask
you
to
fund
the
11th
site
and
to
to
have
that
available,
and
so
that's
why
you
this
is
here
all
this
other
political
stuff,
and
it's
going
back
and
forth.
Beep
I
apologize
for
all
of
that.
O
H
Well,
we
don't
even
have
to
watch
the
TV
in
the
national
hearings
in
Washington
DC
to
see
politics
played
out
we're
seeing
it
played
out
right
here
in
this
chambers
today,
I've
never
heard
so
much
into
windows
and
political
undertones
in
all
of
my
life
call
a
spade
a
spade.
Folks,
that's
why
you
can't
vote
on
anything
about
controlling
money.
Yeah,
you
got
a
problem
when
Raleigh
tells
you
what
to
do.
H
H
First
elected
you
have
one
chance
to
establish
reputation
for
yourself
and
some
of
you
are
blowing
it
real
bad,
because
you
shouldn't
have
written
that
letter
and
you
better
leave
the
politics
out
of
it,
because
people
are
tired
of
it.
When
somebody
gets
pushed
because
they're
black
they
push
back
right
out,
then.
D
H
Because
he's
white
pushes
back
and
as
long
as
we
push
each
other,
we'll
never
talk
about
anything,
but
guess
what
I
don't
I
get
along
real?
Well,
that's
if
I
catch
him
out
there
we'll
stand
and
talk
of
a
knot,
because
until
we
start
looking
at
people
as
people
and
leave
that
damn
political
label
at
home
we'll
get
along
a
whole
lot
better
because
I've
been
both
parties
folks
and
there
ain't.
Neither
party
gonna
solve
the
problem.
It's
the
people!
That's
going
to
solve
the
problem
and
folks
it's
your
people.
H
You
can't
avoid
decisions,
you
can't
put
them
down
and
thank
God
I,
don't
have
a
degree
in
accounting,
management
or
city
management.
I
got
a
degree
in
engineering
and
biology,
I,
understand
life
and
engineering,
I,
understand,
fax
and
faxes.
How
are
you
going
to
get
people
to
give
their
kids
shots?
You
heard
tonight.
Oh
we
got
educated.
H
A
M
Plan
to
support
this
motion
and
if
only
we
lived
in
a
state
where
voting
wasn't
politicized,
this
conversation
might
be
rolling
out
differently.
I
think
we
have
a
fierce
duty
to
make
sure
that
everyone
in
Buncombe
County
has
the
opportunity
to
vote
that
we
protect
early
voting
sites.
I
appreciate
the
work
of
the
Board
of
Elections
board
and
in
in
rigorously
looking
at
how
to
do
that
and
appreciate
the
insights
you
shared
into
that
process.
But
you
know
we
don't
live
well,
it's
important
to
have
local
control
and
decisions
like
this.
M
We
don't
live
in
a
political
vacuum
and
by
that
I
mean
we
have
to
be
attentive
to
the
fact
that
we
live
in
a
state
where
voting
has
been
politicized
to
such
an
extent
that
districts
that
have
been
ruled
unconstitutional
by
federal
courts
are
actually
being
used
in
elections.
Where
there's
an
amendment
on
the
ballot
this
year,
that
would
require
voter
ID
and
where
racially
motivated
and
partisan
motivated
gerrymandering
has
been
found
to
have
occurred
by
federal
court.
M
So
part
of
our
job
is
connecting
the
dots
on
policy
issues
that
come
before
us
and
vigilantly,
ensuring
that
one
of
the
core
freedoms
in
our
country
gets
protected
in
this
county.
So
I
think
it's
a
bit
disingenuous
to
to
not
address
the
toll.
The
whole
picture
and
the
whole
context
that
surrounds
the
debate
we're
having
tonight
so
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
for
specific
reasons,
but
also
the
broader
surrounding
what
it
means
to
vote
in
North
Carolina
in
2018.
C
C
And
I
am
placed
in
a
situation
where
I
believe
in
the
authority
of
this
board.
Without
our
I
mean
you
know,
we
make
we
make
some
mistakes
sometimes,
but
there
are
certain
things
that
come
to
us
and
we
have
to
make
that
decision.
If
I,
don't
like
that
decision,
I,
don't
I
mean
the
people
spoken.
The
members
are
up
here.
We
make
our.
We
make
our
votes,
it
really
bothers
me
being
put
in
this
situation,
I'm
not
going
to
politicize
it.
It
just
bothers
me
being
put
in
this
situation.
C
I
think
the
Board
of
Elections
made
a
decision
comes
back
to
us.
I
really
don't
have
much
say
in
this.
The
state
has
has
agreed
and
I'm
not
going
to
you
know.
I
mean
people
are
up
here:
bashing,
the
state
they're
doing
all
these
different
things.
You
know
in
politicize.
It
has
been
saying
this
is
this
is
turn
political
and
it
it
should
not.
This
is
about
authority
and
good
decision
and
good
decision-making
and,
in
my
opinion,
the
Board
of
Elections
made
a
decision.
C
C
C
C
Nobody's
going
to
challenge
my
heart
and
I
nobody's
gonna
challenge
any
any
of
these.
These,
my
fellow
commissioners,
hearts
on
whether
they
want
everybody
in
the
county
to
vote.
Of
course,
we
want
everybody
in
the
county
to
vote
wherever
you
live.
Whatever
your
economic
status
is
whatever
your
skin
color
is
on
everybody
out
to
vote.
We
encourage
you
to
go
out
to
vote.
We
don't
want
these
political
situations
like
this
to
deter
anybody
from
voting.
So
it's
disappointing
to
me
that
we
have
to
that.
E
A
C
E
E
I
mean
what
I'm
saying
is
that
the
State
Board
of
Elections
has
made
the
determination
on
an
appeal
that
you
have
to
provide
eleven
sites
and
so
by
law.
You
have
to
provide
those
sites,
and
so
the
only
question
now
is:
is
it
going
to
cost
up
to
forty
thousand
or
less
and
what
miss
Velez
has
said?
Is
she
may
be
able
to
absorb
some
of
that
cost
and
so
you're
talking
with
her?
What
I'm
recommending
to
you
is?
J
F
A
E
G
G
A
I'll
just
I'll
comment
that
I
am
I,
do
not
regret
sending
the
letter,
I
believe
in
everything
that
said,
I
regret
not
connecting
with
each
Commissioner
to
get
everyone's
input.
On
that
majority,
the
board
communicated
to
me
that
they
supported
this.
The
question
was
Board
of
Elections
was
divided.
There
were
two
different
plans.
Citizens
came
to
me
and
probably
came
to
others
and
said
we
think
you
should
support
this
and
I
supported
it.
A
majority
the
commissioners
told
me
they
supported
it.
A
A
F
T
G
A
Well,
anyway,
process:
question
commissioner:
frost
is
not
here.
So
if
there's
a
there's
been
a
motion
in
the
second
made
miss
Hockaday,
could
you
remind
the
board
how
the
procedure
works
now
that
the
commissioners
not
here,
are
there?
Are
they
counted
when
their
absence?
Are
they
counted
in
the
affirmative
or
negative?
Could
you
please
refresh
us
on
that
policy?
They.
Z
A
E
A
E
A
C
A
D
O
F
A
Q
AB
So
October
is
Domestic.
Violence,
Awareness,
Month
and
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
share
with
you
about
the
work
that's
happening
at
the
Family
Justice
Center,
and
also
about
an
opportunity
that
we
have
as
a
community
to
move
forward
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
for
the
last
several
years
to
prevent
and
respond
to
domestic
violence.
AB
So
your
investment
helped
our
community
open
the
Family
Justice
Center
in
2016,
and
now
survivors
of
domestic
and
sexual
violence
can
access
services
from
many
partner
agencies,
including
law
enforcement,
health
care
services,
our
nonprofit
advocacy
agencies
in
one
safe
place.
Since
we
opened
our
doors,
we
have
served
over
1,000
folks
that
have
walked
through
our
doors
for
the
first
time
to
get
to
it
connected
to
the
range
of
services
in
FY
18,
our
second
year
of
serving
survivors
at
the
Family
Justice
Center.
AB
We
saw
a
44%
increase
in
the
number
of
people
who
are
walking
through
our
door
for
the
first
time
and
as
we
close
out
their
first
quarter
of
this
fiscal
year,
we've
seen
an
18%
increase
of
that.
So
people
are
hearing
about
the
services
that
are
available
about
the
respect
and
support
that
they
receive
at
the
Family
Justice
Center,
and
continue
to
come
forward
to
access
that
safety
in
FY
18.
AB
Sixty-One
percent
of
those
folks
connected
with
more
than
one
service
provider
on
their
first
visit
an
experience
that
used
to
take
traveling
to
multiple
different
locations
having
multiple
different
phone
calls.
Now
they
can
do
it
at
one
place
else.
Why?
Eighteen,
eighty-three
percent
of
the
folks
that
walk
through
our
doors
for
the
first
time
identified
domestic
violence,
is
the
primary
experience
of
victimization
and
13
percent
identified
sexual
assault
or
stalking
as
their
primary
victimization?
AB
The
statistic
that
I
am
the
most
proud
of
is
that
ninety
seven
percent
of
our
survey
respondents
had
a
plan
to
keep
themselves
safe
and
knew
what
to
do
if
they
were
in
danger
after
they
met
with
one
of
our
intake
specialists.
That's
an
incredibly
empowering
experience
where
somebody
moves
from
being
a
victim
to
being
a
survivor.
We
also
know
that
eighty-five
percent
of
the
people
who
responded
to
that
survey
said
that
they
were
experiencing
a
decreased
fear
and
anxiety
level.
AB
AB
One
of
the
first
pieces
that
we've
been
doing
is
a
multidisciplinary
collaborative
is
improving
our
community's
response
to
incidents
of
non-fatal
strangulations
when
a
partner
when
a
person
strangles
their
partner,
we
often
refer
to
it
as
choking,
but
it's
strangulation,
there's
significant
long-term
health
impacts
and
it's
also
an
indicator
of
lethality
both
to
that
individual
and
a
higher
danger
of
lethality
to
our
law
enforcement
officers.
Who
are
responding
to
an
incident
involving
someone
who
is
strangled.
Someone
with
the
support
of
the
governor's
crime
Commission.
AB
Under
the
session
law
that
grants
us
designation
as
a
community
that
can
do
a
domestic
violence,
fatality
review
team,
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners
has
the
opportunity
to
identify
a
lead
agency
across
North
Carolina
communities.
These
are
different
agencies
in
Mecklenburg
County,
which
was
the
original
community.
To
start
a
domestic
violence
fatality
review
team
that
eight
lead
agency
is
Buncombe
is
is
the
the
county
and
that's
our
recommendation
in
Buncombe
County
as
well.
Welcome
County,
currently
staffs
the
Family
Justice
Center
coordinator
position.
AB
So
you
can
see
the
multidisciplinary
group
of
folks
who
have
been
identified
as
team
members
for
the
domestic
violence
fatality
review
team,
the
session
laws
that
define
domestic
violence.
Fatality
reviews
also
provides
the
Board
of
Commissioners
three
seats
up
to
three
seats
that
you
can
appoint
and
we
have
recommendations
for
those
seats
this
evening.
AB
The
coordinated
community
response
leadership
team
which
encompasses
all
of
the
family
justice
center
partners,
as
well
as
probation
pretrial
services.
Our
district
court
judges,
our
magistrates,
many
of
the
court
actors
that
come
into
contact
with
folks
that
are
experiencing
domestic
violence,
discussed
and
recommended
that
we
should
have
representation
from
an
agency
that
serves
people
who
are
using
violence
in
their
relationship.
AB
So
in
our
community,
that
is
the
SPARC
foundation,
who
provides
case
management,
employment
opportunities
and
provides
what's
known
as
the
batter's
intervention
program
for
Buncombe
County.
We
also
came
together
and
recommended
that
a
representative
of
Pisgah
legal
services,
which
represents
multiple
victims
of
domestic
violence
in
low-income
victims
of
domestic
violence
in
obtaining
restraining
orders,
custody
divorce,
those
civil
legal
protections.
AB
So
from
those
agencies,
we
now
recommend
for
appointment
to
this
board:
Jackie
Leigh
tech,
who's,
the
executive
director
of
the
SPARC
foundation
and
Julia
Horrocks,
who
is
the
managing
attorney
of
Pisgah
legal,
the
domestic
violence
team
at
Pisgah
legal
services
and
their
full
BIOS
are
in
your
packets,
and
then
we
also
recommend
for
to
represent
an
institution
of
higher
learning,
dr.
Jill,
Moffett
who's.
The
associate
vice
chancellor
for
student
affairs
at
UNCA
and
dr.
Moffitt
is
also
the
title
coordinator
at
UNCA.
C
W
AB
C
A
What
okay,
maybe
can
we
also
we'll
do
that
in
a
separate
motion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
Buncombe
County
government
as
the
lead
agency.
A
AB
A
Alright,
now
we
come
to
a
discussion
of
early
childhood
education.
It's
one
of
our
County
Commission
approved
strategic
priorities.
This
is
an
item
that
we
are
not
gonna
have
any
vote
on
this
evening,
but
we're
gonna
have
presentation
and
discussion
and
Commissioner
Jazmin
beach
for
our
we'll
start
us
off.
M
M
Something
that
has
moved
me
deeply
is
how
much
we
have
agreed
on
coming
together
around
increasing
our
support
and
investment
in
ways
to
make
sure
every
kid
in
our
community
can
thrive.
So
tonight
I'll
be
sharing
a
brief
presentation
that
takes
a
look
back
at
the
last
18
months
and
the
work
we've
done
together
and
puts
a
concrete
proposal
on
the
table
for
what
next
steps
might
look
like,
as
we
continue
to
look
at
ways
to
elevate
the
strategic
priority.
M
We've
set
around
this
issue
and
then
we'll
be
turning
things
over
first
to
Amy,
berry
from
the
Asheville
Duncan,
preschool
planning
collaborative
and
then
to
kick
came
Kramer
from
the
Asheville
area,
Chamber
of
Commerce,
to
make
some
remarks
and
share
some
updates
from
the
ground
on
these
issues.
And
then
we
will
bring
it
back
to
Commission
for
a
discussion
questions.
There
will
be
no
vote
on
this
tonight
and
there
will
also
not
be
public
comment
because
we're
not
taking
a
vote
and
there's
some
pictures
in
here
in
December
of
2017.
F
M
The
same
research
shows
us
that
there
is
a
return
of
investment
of
at
least
seven
to
one
for
every
dollar
invested
in
high-quality
early
childhood
education,
I
like
to
think
of
the
dollars.
We
invest
in
this
area
as
supercharged
they're,
not
your
typical
public
dollars
because
of
the
rate
of
investment
they
yield,
not
just
in
the
economics
but
the
incredible
investment
in
the
people
in
the
communities
that
we
live
in.
M
I
won't
go
through
every
detail
of
this,
but
I
did
want
to
take
a
moment
just
to
highlight
our
process
and
timeline
to
date
and
how
public
facing
this
work
has
been
and
how
highly
engaged
we've
been
with
community
partners
and
stakeholders
across
sectors
throughout
it.
This
timeline
begins
in
January
of
2017.
When,
as
the
board,
we
began
discussing
ways
to
increase
our
investments
in
these
areas
and
shortly
thereafter
opened
an
RFP
that
community
partners
began
responding
to.
M
This
is
one
of
the
work
sessions
that
we
had
together
and
this
again
commissioners
up
here,
have
a
hard
copy
of
this.
This
is
a
slide
that
just
really
highlights
the
extent
to
which
collaboration
is
so
key
to
this
work
and
the
extent
to
which
so
many
different
sectors
in
our
community
are
engaged,
whether
that's
the
Asheville
Buncombe,
preschool
planning,
collaborative
local
school
systems,
local
providers
of
early
childhood
education,
higher
education
institutions,
the
business
community,
faith
community
and
every
level
of
government,
local
government
state
and
federal
government.
M
J
M
Where
we
got
an
incredible
opportunity
to
visit
classrooms
across
Buncombe
County
Schools
was
a
great
day.
This
need
has
helped
to
move
than
I'm.
Sorry.
The
way
we've
been
doing
this
work
in
last
18
months
has
helped
to
respond
to
the
incredible
need
that
exists
in
our
community,
but
that
need
persists.
We
know
that
46
percent
of
children
in
Buncombe
County
live
in
poor
or
low-income
homes
and
that
21
percent
of
those
kids
are
living
in
households
that
are
food
insecure.
M
M
On
the
system's
level,
though,
we
also
know
that
there's
a
well-documented
shortage
of
quality,
early
childhood
education
programs
and
there's
a
shortage
of
qualified
teachers
and
staff
for
those
classrooms
and
centers.
We
also
know
both
from
the
results
of
a
survey
and
unending
anecdotal
examples
how
challenging
it
is
for
families
to
access
and
the
barriers
they
face,
including
affordability,.
M
This
next
slide
basically
shows
our
County
and
what
child
care
looks
like
a
caught.
Our
early
childhood
education
looks
like
across
our
County
just
quickly
that
the
data
points
here
are
that
there's
more
than
eleven
thousand
six
hundred
kids
between
the
ages
of
0
and
4,
and
that
we
know
that
among
those
children,
more
than
75,
more
than
7500
are
not
currently
in
licensed
childcare
programs.
M
There
absolutely
will
always
be
a
cohort
of
families
that
choose
not
to
enroll
and
keep
their
kids
home
and
that's
great
and
often
one
of
the
best
things
for
kids
development.
So,
let's
always
make
sure
we
recognize
that.
But
we
also
know
that
there's
a
large
percentage
of
families
who,
if
given
the
option,
would
immediately
enroll
in
a
program-
and
we
know
there's
a
large
percentage
of
children,
especially
those
most
at
risk
who,
if
they
could
enroll,
would
immediately
begin
benefitting
and
would
experience
benefits
that
would
ripple
out
across
their
whole
lives.
C
AC
M
When
we
look
at
this
issue,
as
in
the
big
picture
and
over
the
long
term,
what
we
know
again
from
decades
of
research,
but
also
from
other
communities
that
have
made
significant
investments,
is
that
long
term
investment
is
required
across
the
entire
0
to
5
age
spectrum
and
that
this
investment
needs
to
be
a
mix
of
public
and
private
funding,
and
it
must
feature
collaboration
across
sectors.
Public
financing
alone
cannot
do
this,
nor
can
private
financing
in
the
market
alone
do
it.
No
single
sector
can
tackle
this
issue
by
itself.
M
M
If
in
this
community,
we
were
to
embark
on
a
long-term
plan
of
providing
a
access
to
50
percent
of
the
kids
who
are
not
currently
enrolled,
that's
about
2,000
children,
the
maximum
that
that
would
cost
would
be
just
north
of
21
million
dollars
annually.
This
is
a
number
we've
talked
about
in
our
work
sessions.
That's
sort
of
building
on
data,
that's
in
the
National
Buncombe
preschool
planning
report.
This
is
it
there's
no
way
to
say
anything
except
these
are
big
numbers
and
I.
M
What
I'm
going
to
put
on
the
table
is
a
very
concrete
proposal
about
our
next
steps
and
time
to
begin
our
conversation
about
it
tonight
in
part
because
of
what's
happening,
and
then
in
the
next
six
to
nine
months,
as
community
partners
begin
applying
for
County
funding
and
as
we
begin
our
earliest
discussions
about
the
next
budget
cycle.
So
let
me
walk
through
this.
Specifically,
the
proposal
would
involve
creating
a
dedicated
early
childhood
education
and
development
fund.
M
It
would
involve
appropriating
3.6
million
dollars
into
that
fund
in
fiscal
year,
2020
working
with
county
staff
in
the
weeks
and
months
to
come
to
create
a
clear,
accessible
application
process
and
a
clear,
accessible
decision
making
process
for
funding
awards
and
creating
a
commissioner
subcommittee
to
play
an
advisory
role
during
implementation.
A
natural
next
question
would
be:
how
would
these,
how
would
these
funds
be
awarded?
What
were
the
priorities
be?
Well,
it
would
be
building
on
exactly
the
work
we've
done
in
the
last
18
months
and
exactly
the
work
that's
happening
in
the
community.
M
This
is
a
proposed
timeline
that
begins
tonight.
I'll
make
one
revision
to
this
based
on
a
vote
we
took
earlier
in
this
evening,
but
the
proposed
timeline,
which
really
is
driven
both
by
our
budget
discussion
process,
but
also
by
something
on
the
near
horizon,
which
is
that
in
December
community
partners
will
begin
applying
for
strategic
partnership
grants
and
funds
to
the
county.
M
The
timeline
would
involve
tonight's
discussion
several
weeks
for
questions,
lots
more
opportunity
for
input
from
community
members
and
partners
and
then,
although
it's
a
listed
as
November
6,
that
was
sorted,
actually
be
bumped
up
to
October
30th
that
we
would
actually
vote
on
the
creation
of
this
fund
and
vote
on
signaling.
The
intent
to
approve
funds
dedicated
for
this
purpose.
M
Next
steps
after
that,
under
this
proposal,
would
be
that
staff
would
bring
to
the
board
of
commissioners
recommendations
for
the
application
process
and
funding
decision
process
and
that
we
choose
members
for
the
subcommittee
by
December
partners
would
begin
applying
to
this
fund
as
an
alternative
to
applying
to
the
general
strategic
partnership
fund
and
in
June
of
2019.
We
would
make
budget
appropriations
based
on
the
processes
that
were
put
in
place
around
funding
decisions.
M
Another
natural
next
question,
of
course,
is
how
do
you
pay
for
something
like
this?
This
is
just
a
very
general
slide.
This
is
again
conversations
we've
been
having
at
the
Commission
level
for
the
last
18
months
about
how
this
can
happen.
The
basic
buckets
for
funding
sources
would
be
property,
tax
sales,
tax
fund
balance,
a
reallocation
of
funds
or
some
combination
of
these
sources,
and,
as
we
look
at
counties
like
Mecklenburg
and
Durham
counties
that
are
taking
steps
to
significantly
increase
funding.
M
We've
talked
a
lot
about
this
issue
from
our
hearts.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
it
as
a
policy
issue,
but
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
briefly
touch
on
the
legal
authority
through
which
counties
can
appropriate
funding,
and
that
stems
from
two
sources.
The
first
is
the
authority
to
fund
community-based
programs.
This
comes
from
general
statute,
153,
a
376
where
counties
are
authorized
to
provide
funding
to
programs
and
activities
that
support
residents
who
are
in
lower
and
moderate
income.
M
Households
and
specifically
cited
under
the
second
provision
listed
here,
is
programs
that
address
child
care
issues,
but
we
also
see
health
education,
economic
development,
employment
listed
as
well.
Secondarily,
there's
a
statutory
authority
granted
through
the
county's
ability
to
fund
school-based
pre-k
programs,
and
those
would
be
universal
pre-k
programs
that
any
child
and
the
district
could
enroll
in.
M
Thank
you
all
for
listening
this
presentation.
Again.
You've
got
a
hard
copy
of
it
in
front
of
you.
I'm
honored,
now
to
introduce
first
Aimee
berry
from
the
Asheville
preschool
Asheville
Buncombe
preschool
planning
committee,
who
will
share
some
thoughts
and
updates.
AC
Thank
you
so
much
I'm
pleased
to
share
with
you
some
successes
that
have
been
achieved
because
of
the
Buncombe
County
investments
and
the
work
of
Asheville
bunk
on
preschool
planning
collaborative
as
well
as
Buncombe
partnership
for
children
and
our
community
partners,
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
NC
pre-k
program.
So
with
the
addition
of
two
new
North
Carolina
pre-kindergarten
programs
in
Buncombe
County.
AC
The
county
has
generously
provided
regular
funding
to
support
Buncombe
partnership
for
children's
childcare,
resource
and
childcare
resource
and
referral
services.
One
of
the
aspects
of
that
service
is
to
work
with
family
child
potential,
family,
child
care,
home
providers
and
those
interested
in
starting
up
a
childcare
center.
AC
In
the
past
year
there
have
been
four
folks
who
have
stepped
forward
interested
in
opening
a
home.
Actually,
there
have
been
six,
but
we
expect
four
new
family
childcare
homes
to
open
up
within
the
year
and
family
childcare
is
really
an
important
type
of
care,
because
it's
a
smaller
setting,
which
families
of
youngest
children
often
prefer,
so
we
will
be
able
to
serve
more
infants
and
toddlers
in
those
family
childcare
homes.
AC
There
is
a
new
collaboration
that
has
been
launched
with
green
opportunities,
ad
Tech
and
Buncombe
partnership
for
children,
and,
in
fact,
just
this
morning,
the
new
participants
gathered.
This
is
an
early
childhood
teacher
workforce
development
program.
So
this
nine-month
program
will
provide
intensive
training,
weekly
coaching,
ongoing
professional
development,
coursework
Eddy
BTech
in
the
early
childhood
Department,
so
that
15
participants
can
be
placed
in
child
care
programs
to
work
as
sub
toots,
so
paid
employment,
on-the-job
training
and
will
result
in
15
folks
being
eligible
to
move
into
teaching
positions.
AC
AC
Shifting
gears
and
looking
at
the
needs
going
forward.
I
think
we
saw
a
very
comprehensive
list
of
those
needs.
Those
priorities.
I
would
say
that
when
we
think
about
the
cost
of
child
care,
it
cannot
cut,
it
cannot
come
off
the
backs
of
parents
alone,
it's
just
simply
too
inexpensive
a
service
to
provide.
It
is
going
to
take
many
resources
combined
together
and
while
NC
pre-k
is
a
free,
high-quality
program
that
has
expanded
and
we
expect
will
continue
to
expand
with
state
money.
AC
It
is
a
school
day
school
year
program,
so
it
simply
does
not
meet
the
needs
of
families
who
need
full-day
year-round
care.
So
it's
extremely
helpful,
but
we
have
to
be
looking
at
the
needs
of
all
of
our
families
when
we
think
about
families
who
receive
child
care
vouchers
and
those
are
available
for
families
of
children.
AC
6
weeks
to
12
years
of
age,
families
are
required
to
a
flat-rate
the
parent
portion
of
the
fee,
and
we
we're
seeing
families
who
just
simply
cannot
pay
that
flat
rate.
So
looking
overall
at
childcare
subsidies,
what
we
need
is
to
be
thinking
about.
How
can
we
help
families
of
children
birth
to
five,
afford
a
program
looking
at
some
braided
funding
with
local
private
public
investments
and
to
create
a
sliding
fee
scale
right?
We
are
not
expecting
families
to
pay
nothing
for
a
roll
out
of
an
expansion
for
three
to
four
year
olds.
AC
We
need
a.
We
need
a
well
designed
sliding
fee
scale
that
will
help
provide
some
support
to
that
expansion
and
then,
on
the
workforce,
development
front
funding
to
address
the
well-documented
shortage
of
early
educators.
We
could
build
on
the
pilot
that
I
just
described
to
you,
as
well
as
the
work
that's
happening
with
Warren
Wilson,
a
BTech
Vernor
Center
for
early
learning
and
owen
by
bringing
that
sort
of
program
to
all
of
the
Buncombe
County
High,
School's
education
and
technical
certification,
training
programs.
AC
The
third
area
that
I
think
needs
great
attention
is
investments
in
capital
projects.
We
know
that
in
order
to
serve
more
children,
we're
simply
going
to
need
to
expand
space,
and
that
could
be
in
the
form
of
renovations
to
existing
programs
to
create
classrooms
that
meet
licensing
requirements
and
to
expand
on
existing
buildings
as
well.
AC
Lastly,
I
think
it's
important
for
all
of
us
to
recognize
what
is
happening
in
our
community
with
children
who
experience
trauma
and
trauma
from
that
stems
from
many
many
sources,
whether
it
be
poverty
or
children
who
are
born,
exposed
or
addicted
to
opioids.
No
surprise
we're
seeing
those
children
in
early
care
and
education
programs
and
we
are
woefully
unprepared
to
support
those
children
and
meet
their
needs
so
that
they
can
be
successful.
So
funding
to
provide
trauma-informed
and
resiliency
focused
care
for
early
educators.
AC
These
kinds
of
additional
investments
can
help
us
to
scale
up,
develop
and
implement
a
comprehensive
plan
for
expanding
earlier
care
and
education
with
a
qualified
workforce
that
meets
the
needs
of
Children
and
Families.
I
would
add
that
in
a
very
recent
poll,
a
North
Carolina
poll,
it
was
a
poll
of
North
Carolina
voters.
One
of
the
points
that
shows
that
just
the
deep
level
of
support
and
concern
around
early
childhood
that
comes
out
of
that
poll
is
that
80
80
%
of
respondents
said
they
would
support
increased
annual
state
funding
for
early
childhood
development
programs.
AC
AA
Good
evening
that
Asheville
chamber
represents
1,700
businesses
in
Buncombe
County
all
who
are
committed
to
building
community
through
business
in
Asheville,
we're
in
month
42
of
having
the
lowest
unemployment
rate
in
the
state.
That's
since
march
of
2015
we're
currently
at
a
rate
of
three
point,
one
percent,
and
yet
we
know
that
in
some
areas
of
our
County,
particularly
in
those
of
poverty,
the
rate
is
much
higher
business.
AA
People
tell
me
they
need
skilled
workers
they're,
finding
that
some
of
the
applicants
don't
have
the
requisite
skills,
or
in
some
cases
they
don't
have
the
social
skills.
The
soft
skills
that
are
necessary,
like
being
a
good
member
of
a
team
being
able
to
communicate
well,
even
for
those
that
have
the
skills,
they're,
still,
barriers
to
employment,
a
lack
of
transportation
housing
that
they
can
afford
and
quality
care
for
their
children.
AA
Seventy
one
point:
five
percent
of
parents
haven't
sent
children
to
preschool
because
it's
too
expensive
and
that's
if
you
can
find
a
spot
because,
as
we've
heard,
there's
a
shortage
of
slots
and
a
shortage
of
workforce
to
serve
those
slots.
In
fact,
forty
two
point:
five
percent
of
parents
have
not
sent
children
to
preschool
because
they
can't
find
an
opening.
AA
That's
not
good
for
the
child,
it's
not
good
for
the
parents,
it's
not
good
for
business,
and
none
of
that
is
good
for
the
community.
As
commissioner
beech
Ferrara
noted,
Mecklenburg
and
Durham
counties
have
both
recently
made
investments
in
the
early
childhood
education.
They
see
it
as
a
smart
way
to
knock
down
the
barriers
that
exist
to
getting
people
into
the
workforce
in
the
short
term,
and
they
recognize
that
they're
building
the
workforce
of
the
future
by
investing
in
very
young
children
when
their
minds
are
malleable
and
the
return
on
investment
is
the
highest.
AA
M
A
Right,
Thank
You,
commissioner,
as
we
said
at
the
outset,
this
is
not
an
item.
C
On
sorry,
the
7500
children
that
are
not
in
licensed
child
be
good
to
know
what
number
the
number
that
have
requested
it
or
are
interested
in
it
or
have
applied
and
couldn't
get
it.
You
know
some
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
that
we've
heard
tonight,
so
you
can
actually
have
a
have
a
real
have
a
real
number
that
you're
looking
at
because
not
not
I
mean
some
have
the
support
in
some
of
these
areas
to
you
know
memo
or
PAP
hours.
C
Yes,
commissioner,
press
release
called
Pete
ball,
I
mean
some
have
have
that
sports
and
don't
and
I
think
that's
a
measure
we
need.
You
know
that
we
need
to.
We
need.
We
need
to
know,
because
we
and
I
know
you
that.
That's
not
why
that
number
is
there.
We
don't
want
to
put
a
number
there.
It's
not
accurate
or
too
big.
C
You
know
for,
but
it's
a
good
start
for
discussion,
I'm
pleased
with
what
the
county
has
done
so
far,
I
think
we've
we've
made
a
difference
and
we're
being
selective
in
the
places
that
we've
supported
child
care
and
also
you
know,
there's
been
conversations
about.
The
double
would
Trust
Fund,
which
I
think
that
you
know
will
be
an
opportunity
for
us
to
be
able
to
hope
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
share
with
them
the
goal
that
we
have
for
early
childhood
education
and
that
they
may
be
able
to
play
a
very
big
role.
C
You
know
as
an
alternative
funding
source
so
that
we
don't
you
know,
wouldn't
have
to
use.
You
know
the
as
much.
You
know,
taxpayer
dollars
property
tax
dollars
for
us
I
think
it's
a
good
discussion,
glad
to
be
part
of
it.
I
hate
it's
8:30
at
night,
because
I
think
we
might
have
a
few
more
questions
or
or
more
comments,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
extend
it.
A
lot
of
hard
work
was
put
into
it.
I
think
you
know,
as
as
a
commissioner
I
look
at
a
penny.
C
You
know
that's
a
lot
three
point
six
million
dollars
is
is
in
this
and
I.
Don't
know
that
you
know
that's
a
number
that
was
calculated
just
one
that
was
set
as
a
goal,
but
I
think
we'll
have
to
look
very
hard
at
you
know
it
being
a
good
good
steward
or
whatever
dollar
we're
using
the
other
question
that
I
have.
Is
we
listed
as
a
goal
in
November
to
establish
a
fund
and
I
would
assume
that
we
already
have
a
fund
because
we've
put
eight
hundred
thousand?
A
A
I'll
just
make
a
couple
of
comments
in
it.
It
is
late.
You
know,
we've
had
a
lot
on
the
agenda
this
evening
and
move
through
them
pretty
expeditiously,
but
I.
You
know
the
the
hour
is
late
so
but
I,
you
know,
I
really
I
want
to
thank
Commissioner
beech
Ferrara
for
kind
of
helping
assemble
some
of
the
information
and
and
taking
the
lead
on
the
presentation
on
this
this
evening,
and
you
know
I'm
excited
about.
A
As
commissioner
Belcher
said,
the
actions
we've
been
taking
and
I
think
his
point
about
how
many
you
know
how
many
folks
would
really
use
the
service
if
it
were
expanded.
It's
a
great
question,
look
forward
to
seeing
data
on
that,
but
we
know
it's
a
just.
A
really
large
scale
need
and
we're
not
going
to
solve
it.
Even
if
we
implement
100%
of
these
recommendations,
which
would
be
I
think
very
ambitious
for
us
on
the
time
lane
time
line,
that's
been
laid
out,
they're
still
going
to
be
a
big
untapped
need
beyond
that.
A
Some
years
might
be
easier
to
do
this.
Some
years
might
be.
You
know,
investing
that
level
of
funding
might
be
really
challenging
because
the
the
economy
goes
up
and
down
local
governments
get
hit
with
different
things
from
the
General
Assembly,
but
if
we
don't
have
a
goal
to
shoot
for,
then
this
will
not
get
the
attention
and
the
prioritization
that
it
needs.
A
J
Also
Jazmin
thanks
for
leading
this,
because
you
know
what
it
means
to
me
that
this
early
childcare
is
really
important
and
exactly
what
browny
saying
right
there
I
wanted
to
head
out
is
she's
got
this
proposal
out
here.
It
does
not
mean
that
we're
gonna,
do
it
every
bit,
but
it's
just
like
George
owned
their
insurance
and
everything
else.
This
is
a
goal
we
got
to
look
for.
J
We've
got
to
continue
this
on,
and
the
economy
will
dictate
what
happens
so,
I'm
glad
that
it's
brought,
you
know,
I,
think
that's
our
worst
case
scenario
is
what
you've
got
right.
That's
that
is
our
peak
goal
right
and
if
we
can
get
right
close
to
it,
I
will
be
very
happy
because
I
totally
support
this.
C
So
I
got
one
of
the
comment
that
just
for
suggestion
are
looking
forward.
You
know,
rather
than
having
a
dollar
Target
we're
gonna,
take
a
certain
amount
of
money
and
invest
it
into
this
need.
You
know,
I
would
really
like
to
see
us.
What
we've
done
so
far
has
been
targets.
Specific
I
mean
you
know
when
we
looked
at
the
map
and
had
all
the
different
colors
and
were
the
pockets
of
need.
Where
are
the
pockets
of
poverty?
Where
are
the
numbers?
C
Where
can
we
make
a
difference
and
do
we
just
pick
a
few
targets
and
target
those
needs
annually
and
then
then
figure
out
whether
we
can
afford
it
or
not?
My
concern
with
establishing
any
being
careful
with
establishing
an
amount
of
money
is
that
we
just
spend
the
money
and
I
and
I'm
not
saying
would
be
reckless
or
would
be
anything
like
that.
C
I'm
just
saying
that
to
be
effective
with
any
money,
no
matter
what
it
is,
we're
gonna
have
to
have
some
we're
gonna
have
to
pick
some
targets
and
see
what
would
it
cost
to
do?
You
know
whether
it's
capital,
whether
it's
you
know
in
Candler
or
whether
it's
in
you
know
south
slope
or
wherever
you
didn't
so
I-
think
we're
gonna
have
to
be
specific
it
and,
and
as
we've
said
before,
it
is
a
lot
of
money.
We
just
talked
about
1.6
million
dollars
for
for
insurance.
C
D
D
We've
got
to
look
at
our
total
budget
and
take
everything
in
the
account
and
I
think
we've
got
to
do
it
because
we're
gonna
have
to
make
some
serious
decisions
going
forward,
I
mean
and
be
strategic
about
it
and
what
we
do
and
critical
decisions,
although
I
look
forward
to
making
them
rather
than
coming
through
this
darn
investigation
and
all
we're
doing
now,
but
we've
got
to
you:
don't
do
that
I
think
we
got
to
be
strategic.
Maybe
it's
the
banker
coming
out
in
me,
but
we've
got
to
I.
D
C
S
C
If
we
we
put
out
there
that
we're
going
to
have
a
we're
going
to
have
a
penny
and
we'll
have
3.6
million,
you
know
and
we're
having
people
come
in
and
ask
for
that
money.
You
know
that
that
can
get
way
out
of
hand
in
a
hurry
and
and
I
just
I'm
very
pleased
with
what
we've
done
so
far
and
I
just
I'm.
Just
saying
that
us
don't
think
we
have
to
go
from
you
know
strategically.
We've
done
a
good
job.
You
know,
we've
met
the
needs
in
some
communities
and
I.
Think
we've
been
good.
C
Stewards
I
just
want
to
challenge
us
whatever
we
do
that
that
we
that
we
do
that
that
we
do
that
going
forward
and
I
know
that
you
know
you
know
we'll
have
somebody
that's
going
to
come
and
want
to
you
know:
they're
gonna
want
a
penny
for
affordable
housing.
You
know
a
penny
for
this
and
a
penny
for
that,
and
if
we
do
a
penny
for
everything,
we
just
have
to
be
careful,
because
it's
just
a
lot
of
money.
C
A
penny
with
the
county
is
3.7
million
or
six
million
dollars.
So
it's
it's
a
lot,
but
it's
a
it's
a
good.
It's
a
good
program.
It's
a
good!
It's
a
good
I
mean
we
all
want
to
try
to
be.
We
want
to
be
part
of
this.
It's
just
a
question
of
what
level
you
know.
Can
we
make
a
difference
in
hell
how
fast
we
can
do
it.
M
M
So
far,
I'm
available
for
any
conversations
folks
want
to
have
in
the
next
couple
weeks
and
as
brownie
mentioned,
that
proposed
timeline
and
what
I
would
like
to
see
us
move
forward
with
is
that
this
would
come
back
on
the
October
30th
agenda
for
a
vote
about
next
step,
so
that
we
can
have
have
concrete
steps
in
place
as
we
head
into
the
winter,
the
beginning
of
that
funding
cycle
process
with
community
partners.
So
thank
you
again
and
thank
you
all
for
everyone's
engagement
and
passion
on
this
issue.
All.
A
T
Getting
the
minister
chairman
members
of
the
board
again
Clint
Shepherd,
Director
of
Facilities
and
new
construction.
You
do
have
before
you
two
motions
associated
with
construction
contract
for
a
batch
of
capital
projects
at
the
a
BTech
campus
in
accordance
with
north
carolina
general
statute,
143
128
point
1
regarding
guidelines
for
construction
management
at
risk
contracts,
which
does
give
you
as
a
board
government
authorization
to
use.
This
said:
contract
I'm,
recommending
contract
execution
with
Vannoy
construction,
as
selected
by
state
guidelines
found
within
North
Carolina
General
statute,
143.
T
Sixty
four
point:
three
one:
Article
D
for
the
FY
eighteen
capital
repairs
needed
on
the
main,
a
BTech
campus
in
the
amount
of
three
point:
six:
eight:
three
million
dollars
this
contract
delivery
method
offers
many
advantages.
That
will
definitely
help
us
out
and
executing
this
project.
That
is
considered
high
risk
and
looking
at
the
project
details
its
various
unrelated
repairs
when
I
say
unrelated
repairs,
I'm
not
talking
about
new
construction.
Where
you
have
the
foundation,
then
you
have
the
walls.
Then
you
have
the
roof.
T
I'm
talking
about
we're
going
to
be
working
on
hv
hv,
a
see,
improvements,
we're
going
to
be
working
on
the
fire
alarm
system,
we're
gonna,
be
working
on
roof
replacements
and
it's
primarily
driven
by
the
focus
of
priorities.
The
the
campus
is
in
need
of
some
dire
attention
and
we're
just
having
to
take
it
piece
by
piece
and
look
at
those
priorities
and
really
look
at
what's
needed,
first
and
foremost,
and
then
kick
the
can
down
to
the
next
year
to
address
those.
As
as
we
continue
to
plan
it
is
multiple
buildings.
T
It's
not
on
one
building,
it's
not
on
a
group
of
five
buildings
that
are
right
next
to
each
other.
It
Sonic
a
campus
of
140
acres,
11
buildings
of
the
total
buildings,
I'm,
not
sure
how
many's
on
the
campus,
but
it
will
be
an
11
building.
It's
consistent
of
over
350
thousand
square
feet
and
we
will
be
pursuing
this
with
multiple
constructions
just
above,
but
they
are
not
again.
It
is
a
it's
an
occupied
campus
and
these
details
represent
a
significant
level
of
complexity
and
two
significant
factors
to
keep
in
mind
again.
T
Around
occupied
campus
is
the
is
safety
there's
going
to
be
students
on
site.
There's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
construction
and
a
lot
of
method
to
the
madness
and
the
dissected
nough
Civ.
You
know
the
work
that's
taking
place
and
then
another
significant
advantages.
The
budget
controlled.
The
you
know
because
of
this
complexity
there
is
uncertainty
and
the
best
way
to
mitigate
this
uncertainty
is
through
a
construction
manager
at
risk
contract,
where
you
have
a
very
front
loaded
planning
process
with
multiple
team
members
around
the
table.
You've
got
your
architects.
T
So
you
have
been
provided
as
part
of
the
documentation.
A
more
comprehensive
narrative
of
those
advantages
of
construction,
managed
construction
management
at
risk,
as
I've
highlighted
those
and
the
burden
of
investigation
has
been
met.
Therefore,
its
of
my
professional
conclusion
and
recommendation
in
the
best
interests
of
County
funding
and
the
project
itself,
you
move
forward
with
execution
of
this
contract,
and
that
being
said,
I'm
open
to
any
questions
and
I
will
add
that
I
do
have
Gregg
Israel
here
the
subject
matter
expert
as
it
relates
to
the
overarching,
a
BTech
projects.
I
thank.
G
Q
G
G
A
A
T
A
I
nominate
the
reappointment
of
Mary
Adame
to
the
adult
care
home,
Community,
Advisory
Committee,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
all
right.
Now
we
come
to
public
comment.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public?
Who
would
like
to
comment
on
any
items
that
we
have
not
previously
had
public
comment
on
this
evening?
Yes,
sir?
H
Thank
you
brandy
for
looking
at
me.
I'm
sure
you
figured
I
had
something
to
say,
I'm,
very
serious,
about
making
this
suggestion.
I
think
everything
you
look
at.
You
ought
to
start
express
it
in
the
number
of
houses
it
takes
eight
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
that
takes
five
hundred
and
twenty
eight
housing
units.
2.1
million,
takes
about
fifteen
hundred
housing
units
and
we
need
to
know
how
many
houses
in
the
county
in
that
way.
You
won't
get
your
hair
skin
now,
because
you
can
see
those
house
of
disappears.
H
You
fund
projects,
because
you
all
you
with
what
you
all
here
is
nothing
but
help
give
me
help.
We
need
this.
We're
in
poor
shape.
Give
me
money.
Give
me
money,
give
me
money
now,
I
want
this
done.
I'm
by
this,
like
I,
am
by
the
checkbook
on
the
internet.
So
what
does
that?
Do?
I
want
to
see
the
number
of
people
that
votes
at
each
early
voting
site
the
number
each
day.
H
So
we
can
look
at
that
and
evaluate
what
it
cost,
because
I
don't
care
what
the
State
Board
of
Elections
says:
I,
don't
care
what
the
County
Board
of
Elections
says:
they're,
not
paying
for
this
stuff.
So
we
need
to
know
what
we
got
for
aerbook.
Don't
we
has
nothing
to
do
with
location.
It
has
to
do
with
we've
gotten
voting
to
where
it's
not
important
anymore.
I,
remember
the
old
day
you
had
one
day
to
vote
school
closed
it
boy
out,
everybody
was
excited
weren't.
H
We
got
excited
because
we
had
to
get
out
and
vote
our
mum
and
dad
had
to
get
out
vote
now.
It's
just
like
any
time.
We
won't
do.
We
go
vote
and
I.
Don't
think
we're
voting
any
better.
Now
that
we
did
then,
but
I
said
here
not
listened,
can't
afford
health
care
can't
afford
childcare
can't
afford
houses
can't
afford
food
y'all
have
got
to
decide.
Are
you
gonna
support
children,
our
greenways,
our
Cola,
our
healthcare?
H
You
were
talking
about
that
al
you're
gonna
have
to
establish
some
priorities,
folks
and
I'm
very
disappointed
in
one
Commissioner
setting
up
there.
That's
addressed
a
political
issue,
that's
being
voted
on
in
the
election
and
I
want
to
know
how
many
of
you
setting
up
there
when
you
lay
down
the
night
and
go
to
sleep.
Do
you
not
want
to
know
that
the
person
voting
for
you
is
who
they
say
they
are,
but
are
you
so
important
and
want
to
be
elected
so
bad?
H
G
G
G
According
to
the
invoices
I
have
been
presented
in
closed
session
meetings
without
the
authority
to
be
there,
while
voting
publicly
for
Miss
Huckabee's
to
be
the
County
Attorney
on
June
the
19th.
We
have
never
had
or
needed
two
attorneys
for
this
board.
We
have
not
approved
a
second
attorney
so
far.
The
second
attorney
has
built
us
$27,000.
G
$3,800,
worse
than
two
months,
that's
what
he's
charging
us!
We've
got.
Seventy
eight
hundred
dollars
in
the
first
bill,
$8,700
in
the
second
bill
in
questionable
stuff,
we've
even
you've
even
had
him
talking
to
Ron
pain,
which
is
in
the
back
room.
It's
cost
us
Oh,
a
$1,600
to
talk
to
him.
He's
talked
to
through
$3,000
worth
he's,
talked
to
her
euler
$850
worth,
and
our
Texas
and
emails
have
cost
us
$1400
he's
not
getting
paid
because
he
don't
work
for
us.
I,
don't
care!
You
can
ask
them.
G
The
bills
are
here
and
there's
gonna
be
another
bill
and
I
want
to
see
it.
No
I
want
to
see,
because
anybody
wants
these
I
got
it.
I
got
the
bill
and
I've
got
a
marked
out
who's
done.
What?
If
you
want
one
you're
more
than
welcome
to
ever
anybody's
welcome
to,
but
right
now
there's
something
else
that
you've
done.
That's
illegal
yeah
even
having
when
y'all
did
the
resolution
to
do
the
forensic
audit
you
had
him
get
with
the
law
and
that
cost
us
$125
people
in
this
room.
G
We're
not
smart
enough
to
do
that
without
turning
back
there.
We
got.
One
here
wonders
here
that
left
so
my
time
is
that
if
y'all
want
to
put
this
on
the
agenda,
we
can
do
it,
but
this
is
this
is
backdoor
normally
for
you
period.
That's
what
you
do
you
did
it
at
City.
You
put
a
thing
on.
Let
Asheville,
though,
all.
A
A
G
A
C
A
Z
Mr.
chairman,
you
have
two
closed
sessions
tonight.
One
is
to
consult
with
an
attorney
retained
by
the
county
for
representation
under
North
Carolina
General
statute,
143
318
point
11
a3,
and
that
would
be
to
discuss
the
matter
of
County
of
bunkum
versus
Wanda
Skellington
green
and
Michael
Green
18
CVS,
Oh,
25,
77,
and
then
the
next
matter
would
be
to
discuss
the
implications
of
a
potential
employee
under
North
Carolina
General
statute,
143,
318,
11
a6.
Z
A
A
Sorry
last
thing
before
we
adjourn
I
didn't
mean
to
announce
that
the
next
meeting
of
the
County
Commission
will
be
held
at
tuner
College
Street
on
October
16th
at
5:00
p.m.
on
October
16th
at
1:00
p.m.
mission
health
forward
update,
will
hold
a
meeting
at
200,
College
Street,
the
first
floor
conference
room
in
downtown
and
then
finally,
the
last
meeting
of
October
will
be
held
on
October
30th
at
5:00
p.m.
in
the
commissioners
chambers
at
200,
College
Street
from
three
to
six.
All
right,
we're
in
closed
session.