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The Commissioners' Briefings take place on the first and third Tuesday of each month at 3pm. The first agenda item on the briefing is the COVID-19 Community Update. To view future meeting agendas please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
B
Meeting
edition's
just
fy,
I
need
to
step
out
at
4
pm
for
a
5.5
committee
meeting.
That
starts
then.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
letting
us
know
all
right,
then
commissioners,
we
will
follow
the
agenda
that
we
have
published
here.
Are
there
any
questions
about
any
items
on
the
agenda
for
the
regular
meeting
today
at
five.
A
All
right
great,
then,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
the
staff
updates.
The
first
one
is
an
update
on
covet
and
stacy.
Saunders
is
here
to
leave
this
item.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
Stacy.
C
It's
changing
and
changing
fairly
quickly,
just
to
sort
of
set
the
stage
for
today
I'm
going
to
talk
about
what
we're
what
we've
been
currently
doing
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
what
we
need
to
do
now
and
then
what
we
might
need
to
do
in
the
future
and
sort
of
just
preparing
folks.
C
I
did
want
to
add
this
map.
This
is
the
cdc
transmission
tracker
and
you
can
see
that
at
the
bottom
it
talks.
You
know
it
shows
the
the
legend
of
sort
of
the
blue
is
low
and
moderate,
and
then
substantial
on
high,
you
can
see
most
of
our
country
is
in
substantial
or
high
transmission
right
now
that
will
be
a
theme
as
we
go
on
in
the
presentation.
C
C
C
The
percent
positivity,
which
helps
us
understand
the
rate
of
transmission
among
our
community,
has
grown
as
well.
We
are
now
over
our
desired
five
percent,
with
our
current
percent
positivity,
as
of
yesterday
being
7.2
percent,
you
might
remember,
just
a
month
ago
we
were
consistently
under
2
percent.
C
So
this
is
our
overall
epi
curve
since
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
and
at
the
last
briefing
I
expressed
that
concern
of
that
rapidly
increasing
slope
here
at
the
tail
and
I'm
going
to
zoom
in
a
little
bit
so
or
hopefully,
it'll
translate
well
just
zooming
in
on
that,
a
little
bit
that
this
is
a
steeper
and
quicker
curve
that
is
emerging
and
I've
put
here
that
these
are
what
you're
seeing
up.
There
are
those
daily
cases
coming
in
that
we
saw
the
doubling
time
there
to
be
about
two
weeks
as
well.
C
C
With
reports
concerning
the
the
delta
variant
by
now,
you've
also
heard
that
it's
far
more
contagious
with
reports
that
it
spreads
as
or
faster
than
smallpox.
The
1918
flu
and
chickenpox
compared
to
earlier
strains
that
for
every
positive
we
would
see
about
one
to
two
new
new
infections
for
every
positive
delta
variant.
C
C
That
is
fueling
the
transmission
of
the
now
delta
variant,
this
level
of
vaccine
vaccination
rate
not
only
puts
those
who
are
unvaccinated
at
risk.
It
leaves
those
of
us
who
are
vaccinated
and
have
done
everything
that
we've
asked
them
to
do
to
protect
themselves
in
the
community
at
more
of
a
risk.
C
Now
large
unvaccinated
populations
allow
the
virus
of
space
to
change
its
genome,
and-
and
I
always
talk
about-
I
don't
want
to
humanize
or
personalize
a
virus,
but
sometimes
it's
best
to
explain
that
way
that
it
wants
to
survive
and
every
time
we
give
it
an
opportunity
through
infection,
it's
going
to
change
it's
going
to
take
that
opportunity
to
try
to
change
itself
so
that
it
can
become
stronger,
more
contagious.
C
Vaccination
is
the
best
shot
at
cutting
off
that
supply
chain.
We
are
a
part
of
that
supply
chain,
eliminating
the
viruses
ability
to
change
further.
I
did
want
to
address.
You
know
that
breakthrough
cases
are
of
great
interest
to
to
folks
and
vaccine
breakthrough.
Cases
are
expected
because
no
vaccine
is
a
hundred
percent
effective,
so
covid19
vaccines
are
effective
and
a
critical
tool
to
bringing
this
pandemic
under
control.
C
We
expect
that
because
no
vaccine
is
a
hundred
percent,
but
what
we
do
know
is
our
current
vaccines
are
very
effective
against
circulating
variants,
even
with
the
reduction
that
we
see
in
effectiveness
with
the
delta
variant.
Still
very
good
at
preventing
it
preventing
infections,
preventing
severe
illness
and
significantly
reducing
hospitalizations
and
death,
and
we
cannot
forget
that
that
even
for
those
who
are
who
are
vaccinated
and
may
get
infected,
the
risk
of
severe
illness,
hospitalization
and
death
is
decreased.
C
We
have
seen
the
positive
effects
of
vaccination
with
our
older
population.
I
remember
I
was
just
saying
earlier
that
the
very
highest
rates
of
vaccination-
almost
80
percent
of
our
older
population-
is
vaccinated
fully
vaccinated,
whereas
18,
whereas
our
18
to
49
year
olds,
have
vaccination
uptake
less
than
60
percent.
C
So
not
surprisingly,
we
are
not
seeing
very
many
cases
in
our
older
population
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
show
here
that
the
slide
over
to
the
left
is
showing
the
weekly
cases
trend
and
the
purple
that
you
see
is
that
younger
group,
whereas
the
dark
dark
green,
would
be
our
older
are
75
and
older
and
you
barely
see
any
green
and
you
see
lots
of
purple
at
that
tail.
End
of
that
curve.
C
C
For
buncombe
county
hhs,
we've
committed
ourselves
from
december
until
now
to
vaccine
administration,
buncombe
county
hhs
has
administered
about
97
000,
total
doses
of
vaccine.
So
far,
our
buncombe
county
outreach
team
brings
together
vaccine
providers
from
our
count
all
in
our
county
on
a
weekly
basis
to
coordinate
accessible
and
equitable
vaccine
opportunities
throughout
our
county,
and
as
such,
we
continue
to
put
much
of
our
efforts
into
outreach
into
our
community.
In
the
last
month,
we've
administered
215
total
doses,
through
outreach
alone
through
through
mobile
outreach
alone.
C
We've
been
serving
in
this
role
for
more
than
six
months,
transferring
vaccine
to
providers
in
and
around
buncombe
county
later
this
evening.
I
believe
you
all
will
be
seeing
a
budget
amendment
that
includes
75
000
dollars
in
new
state
funding
to
support
our
hub
activities,
as
well
as
all
the
carryover
funds
for
all
of
our
covid
response
activities.
This
activity,
acting
as
a
hub
for
distribution,
is
not
new,
but
the
additional
funding
support
is
so.
C
C
In
the
first
week
when
fema
was
stationed
at
the
asheville
outlets
they
reached
about
a
hundred
people
with
vaccine,
and
then
the
fema
team
moved
to
haywood
recreational
center
last
week
and
administered
another
100
doses
there,
so
this
resource
will
be
in
the
region
over
the
next.
Several
weeks
with
with
the
more
immediate
locations
listed
here,.
C
I
just
learned
literally
this
morning
that
the
incentive
amount
will
increase
to
a
hundred
dollars.
Previously
it
was
25.
It
will
increase
to
a
hundred
dollars
effective
this
week
for
those
receiving
their
first
dose
and
remain
at
25
for
those
providing
a
ride
for
the
person
getting
their
first
dose
and,
as
I
said,
learned
that
this
morning
and
as
we
receive
more
information
regarding
the
program,
we
will
update
our
website
and
social
media.
C
C
We
provided
a
one-pager
outlining
what
our
current
coveted
situation
is
and
what
measures
they
can
take
now,
regardless
of
any
executive
orders
or
local
restrictions
as
business
owners
to
reduce
the
spread
included
in
there
were
that
business
owners.
We
were
recommending
that
business
owners
begin
requiring
mass
in
indoor
public
spaces,
implement
social
distancing
and
encouraging
vaccination
amongst
their
staff,
and
one
great
example
we
did
have.
C
Additionally,
earlier
last
week,
buncombe
county
hhs
invited
all
area,
schools,
public,
private
and
charter
to
participate
in
back
to
school,
covet,
19,
ready
readiness,
information
sessions
and
buncombe
county
hhs
covered
the
major
changes
in
the
strong
schools
toolkit
and
provided
recommendations
for
the
upcoming
school
year.
We
made
the
recommendations
of
universal
masking
in
k
through
12,
and
the
adoption
of
all
should
statements
in
the
strong
schools
toolkit,
because
the
best
way
to
protect
our
children
and
keep
them
in
school
is
to
layer,
multiple
prevention
measures.
C
C
Additionally,
we
continue
to
recommend
owners
of
all
public
indoor
spaces,
adopt
the
measures
outlined
in
the
stand
up
document
that
I
reviewed
previously
of
most
importance.
We
are
recommending
that
owners
of
public
indoor
spaces
require
mass
masks
indoors,
regardless
of
vaccine
status,
while
transmission
rates
are
increasing
and
we
are
in
a
high
transmission
area.
C
This
would
include
businesses,
restaurants,
government
buildings,
event,
event,
centers
included.
In
that
recommendation,
we
are
continuing
to
recommend
universal
masking
for
all
students
and
staff
in
k-12
settings.
Public
private
and
charter,
particularly
a
school,
will
be
starting
during
this
time
of
of
substantial
and
high
transmission,
and
that's
the
update
as
of
last
night
at
nine
o'clock
p.m.
C
Asheville
city
schools
did
vote
to
universally
mass
k-12
and,
lastly,
we
are
strongly
recommending
individuals
to
mask
up
in
all
public
indoor
spaces,
if
not
already
required
by
businesses
or
the
facility,
regardless
of
your
vaccine
status.
While
we
are
in
this
time
of
high
transmission,
so
we've
been
monitoring
key
indicators
since
fall
of
2020
using
data
to
drive
our
decisions
over
time.
C
We
have
revised
these
metrics
now
down
to
five
indicators
that
have
been
more
influential
in
our
decision
making
than
others,
and
that
are
those
are
the
cases
per
100
000
per
week
in
the
percent
positivity,
both
helping
us
better
understand
transmission
within
the
community.
Our
covet
deaths
that
help
us
understand
the
severity
of
illness
and
the
impact
on
the
community,
and
then
our
inpatient
hospital
beds
occupied
by
covet
in
our
percent
icu
beds
occupied
by
covid.
C
Helping
us
understand
the
toll
that
covid
19
is
having
on
our
health
system,
and
please
note
that
I
have
highlighted
the
percent
icu
beds
occupied
by
covid,
as
things
were,
improving
that
that
indicator
was
not
being
monitored,
and
now
we
will
be
reinstating
that
one.
So
as
soon
as
we
have
that
updated,
we
will
put
that
one
in
there
and
I've
just
sort
of
put
an
x
a
box
around
the
orange
area,
because
we
will
continue
to
monitor
those.
C
The
majority
of
the
indicators,
three
out
of
five
being
an
orange
then,
will
trigger
us
to
bring
additional
recommendations
to
you,
the
board
of
commissioners
for
consideration
and
those
recommendations
could
include
a
myriad
of
things,
including
preventive
measures,
requirements,
restrictions
and
strategies.
Other
strategies
to
reduce
the
spread
and,
depending
on
those
recommendations
that
public
health
would
bring,
may
require
revisiting
a
state
of
emergency.
C
So
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
made
great
progress.
In
the
last
week,
we've
seen
the
majority
of
vaccines
that
we've
administered
to
be
first
doses,
so
that
that's
encouraging.
C
We
have
heard
from
businesses
that
would
rather
shut
down
covet
19
than
risk
their
livelihoods
and
have
some
businesses
even
offering
to
voluntary
voluntarily
put
measures
in
place
to
protect
their
patrons
their
community
and
their
business,
and
we've
already
seen
one
school
system,
as
I
mentioned,
adopt
the
recommendation
of
universal
masking
in
k
through
12
to
help
keep
kids
in
the
classroom
and
keep
schools
healthy.
C
And,
as
I
talk
about
the
school
school
system
and
our
children,
particularly
those
who
are
less
than
12,
that's
one
of
our
most
precious
resources
and
our
kids
under
12
are
not
even
eligible
for
vaccine.
Yet,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
talk
to
you
as
as
your
public
health
director,
but
I'm
also
a
mom,
a
mom
who
watched
as
one
of
her
kiddos
excitedly
got
her
vaccine
and
a
mom
who
is
patiently
waiting
for
her
youngest
to
be
able
to
be
eligible.
C
We
can
increase
our
vaccination
rates
and
work
hard
to
reduce
the
spread
through
mass
recommendations,
while
transmission
rates
are
really
high,
the
more
we
are
vaccinated,
the
less
we
are
allowing
cova
19
to
invade
our
bodies
and
use
them
as
factories
for
producing
even
more
variants.
So
we
can
stop
that
and
we
can
stop
that
through
vaccine.
C
C
C
Just
a
reminder
that
when
you
get
your
vaccine,
your
information
is
protected
and
confidential.
Getting
a
vaccine
is
the
responsible
thing
to
do.
Getting
a
vaccine
is
what
you
do
to
protect
yourself
and
others
that
you
care
about.
So
please
honor
the
sacrifices
that
our
emergency
services
personnel,
our
nurses,
our
restaurant
workers,
our
business
owners,
our
teachers,
our
school
age,
kiddos,
have
all
made
by
getting
your
vaccine.
C
B
Can
we
do
a
few
quick
questions,
no
just
to
circle
back
to
the
incentive
cards
just
to
zero
in
on
that,
so
anyone
who
goes
and
gets
a
first
shot
is
eligible
to
get
100.
C
I
believe
the
official
100
increase
starts
tomorrow.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
great,
so
that's
one
thing
two,
just
as
we
zoom
out
and
think
about
big
picture
for
a
second,
if
we're
currently
at
around
hovering
over
fifty
percent
vaccinated,
our
goal
is
still
to
reach
that
seventy
percent
that
would
get
us
to
hurt
a
community
right,
so
we're
really
higher
than
seventy
percent.
Dr
hathaway's
saying
75.
C
B
Certainly,
but
as
we
sort
of
think
about
the
realities
of
this
moment,
we
are
trying
to
reach
a
group
of
people
who
are
who
are
maybe
just
a
few
steps
away
from
taking
this
step
of
getting
vaccinated,
that's
right
and
if
we
can
get
to
whatever
that
herd
immunity
percentage
is
that's.
When
we
begin
to
realize
some
of
the
community
level
benefits.
B
That
me
to
my
way
of
thinking,
at
least
that
makes
it
feel
like
a
more
sort
of
methodical
progression
than
saying
we're.
We
have
between
45
and
50
left
to
go.
I
know
it's
just
a
maybe
it's
tomato
tomato
on
some
level,
but
I
think
it's
just
helpful
to
break
it
down
a
few
different
ways
as
we
have
these
conversations
so
appreciate
the
hard
work
everyone
is
doing.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
Not
at
this
time,
the
recommendations
are
at
this
time
that
buncombe
county
government
created
an
implement
a
vaccine
policy
for
the
workforce,
and
then
the
other
recommendations
are
for
all
all
owners
of
indoor
spaces
to
follow
our
stand-up
document,
but
primarily
really
focusing
in
on
encouraging
and
strongly
recommending
owners
of
indoor
public
spaces
to
require
masks,
regardless
of
vaccination
status
and
the
other
one.
The
other
two.
C
One
being
that
continued
recommendation
for
schools
of
any
sort
to
adopt
universal
masking
and
then
the
last
one
is
individuals
masking
indoors
in
public
indoor
spaces,
regardless
of
their
vaccinations.
While
we
are
in
this
time
of
high
transmission.
A
Right
and
just
to
be
to
be
make
sure,
there's
no
ambiguity
on
it.
These
are
recommendations
they're,
not
requirements,
they're,
not
government
requirements
for
businesses,
so
every
business
I
mean.
However,
with
that
said,
a
business
can
adopt
a
policy
internally
to
require
it
with
within
their
personal
property
right.
Yes,
so
if
a
business
says,
we
totally
agree
with
this,
they
can
adopt
that
as
a
requirement
for
their
customers
and
their
their
workforce,
and
the
county
would
support
them
in
making
sure
that
they
are
able
to
enforce
that
on
their
property.
C
Well,
they're
they're
property
owners,
and
so
they
they
can.
They
have
the
authority
and
latitude
to
do
that
for
their
own
businesses
and
then
implement
strategy
like
mitigation
and
trespassing
types
of
things
that
they
wanted.
Okay,
the
key
thing
is
to
think
about
the
metrics
and
that
really
like
the
three
or
more
of
those
top
five
are
going
to
be.
E
And
stacey
I've
read
about
other
states
that
are
getting
really
they're
getting
hit
hardest
right
now,
they're,
seeing
their
vaccination
rates
go
up
in
the
last
couple
weeks.
Maybe
I
missed
it.
Where
are
our
vaccination
rates
in
terms
of
like
doses
per
day?
Have
they
gone
up
in
the
last
week
or
two?
That's.
C
A
great
question-
and
so
I
pull
those
every
week
and
so
last
week
we
saw
for
the
last
about
four
or
five
weeks.
We've
been
seeing
consistently
about
200,
total
doses
from
us
alone
and
that
didn't
change
this
past
week.
Although
we
did
see
the
vast
majority
of
what
we
gave
out
being
first
doses,
that's
a
little
different,
so
I
think
maybe
in
the
next
week
or
so
I'd
be
able
to
tell
you
more
about
what
that
really
looks
like.
E
And
my
final
question-
maybe
maybe
this
is
for
dr
hathaway,
but
as
I
try
to
think
back
on
past
surges,
where
we've
kind
of
seen
data
to
try
to
predict
their
severity
and
and
how
long
they
would
be
when
they
would
when
they
would
peak.
I
think
every
prediction
I've
seen
came
didn't
come
out
correctly.
It
was
all
wrong,
and
yet
I
still
have
to
ask
what
what
is
at
the
national
level.
What
are
we
seeing
in
terms
of
when
this
might
peak
and
when
this
might
come
down
again.
F
But
none
of
it's
very
good,
yeah,
accurate
or
encouraging,
but
good.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
stacy
for
the
the
update
that,
just
to
start
out,
I
appreciate
being
here
again
and
the
opportunity
to
share
what's
happening
at
the
hospital
and
then
my
perspective
more
globally.
I
concur
and
echo
everything
stacy
said
and
and
have
very
little
to
add,
with
respect
to
what's
happening
in
the
community
and
so
we'll
focus
my
comments
on
the
what's
happening
at
the
hospital
and
then
I'll
address
the
issue
about
where
I
think
this
might
end
up.
F
F
F
Those
two
things
the
left
hand
and
the
right
hand
worked
very
well
to
fight
this.
Together,
we
have
seen
in
three
weeks
a
five-fold
increase
in
the
number
of
cases
at
the
hospital
went
from
8
to
50
48,
give
or
take,
and
then
we
had
63
across
our
system
today
about
20
of
those
are
in
the
icu
and
10
of
those
are
on
ventilators.
F
But
we
saw
a
very
steep
rise
and
stacey
pointed
out
that
shape
of
the
curve,
what's
really
been
interesting,
is
how
steep
it's
risen
and
then
how
rapidly
it's
followed
with
hospitalizations
the
age
group,
the
age
demographic
of
our
hospitalizations
is
lower
than
it
was
before
because,
as
stacy
pointed
out,
80
percent
of
the
people
over
65
are
who
are
most
vulnerable
to
hospitalization,
have
been
vaccinated
and,
and
the
death
rate
has
plummeted.
Since
we've
seen
vaccinations
in
the
elderly
population,
it's
all
the
deaths
have
shifted
to
a
lower
age
group.
F
Still
a
mortal
illness,
we're
still
continuing
to
use,
lose
young
people
with
families.
You'll
see
something
in
the
media
about
someone
from
south
carolina
who
reported
a
death,
we're
losing
mothers
and
fathers
of
young
children.
Still
it's
it's
a
mortal
illness.
I'd
bring
that
up
to
encourage
people
to
get
vaccinated.
F
The
vast
majority
of
our
hospitalizations
are
in
vaccinated
people,
97
percent.
So
those
excuse
me
an
unvaccinated
individuals.
97
are
current
people
who
have
not
gotten
a
vaccination.
Only
three
percent
occurring
in
people
who
have
been
vaccinated
and
the
people
who
have
been
vaccinated
have
lesser
severity
of
of
of
illness
and
are
far
far
less
likely
to
die.
F
We,
while
we've
seen
an
increase
in
our
number
of
cases,
we're
still
at
about
a
third
to
a
half
of
where
we
were
in
january
or
less
so.
We
have
adequate
capacity
in
terms
of
supplies,
ppe
equipment
rooms,
etc.
At
this
point
in
time,
but
that
can
change,
and
so
we
really
need
the
community
and
everyone
to
be
attentive
to
their
own
personal
behaviors
and
we
hope
to
vaccinating
the
risk
of
serious
adverse
events
from
vaccination.
F
I
saw
data
that
was
from
our
own
data
internally
at
hca
over
211
000
people
vaccinated
the
risk
of
a
serious
event
was
point:
zero,
zero,
zero,
two
six
percent
less
than
you
know,
two
one,
thousands
of
a
percent
of
having
a
serious
event,
your
risk
of
dying
from
covet
is
one
to
two
percent,
so
it's
many
many
many
many
many
fold
higher
and
we
know
that
the
vaccines
are
highly
safe,
highly
effective
and
very
safe.
So
we
encourage
everybody
to
get
vaccinated.
F
I
don't
know
where
we're
going
to
go.
I
have
I've
been
amazed
that
we,
how
poorly
our
models
have
worked
to
predict
where
we
would
be-
and
I
think
a
lot
of
that
is
because
there's
such
an
element
of
human
behavior
involved
in
how
we
behave
in
public,
and
so
I
don't
I
I
don't
know,
I'm
optimistic,
because
if
you
look
at
the
curves
from
the
united
kingdom
over
the
last
month
or
so,
there
has
been
a
decline
in
the
number
of
cases
there.
F
I
don't
and
we
tend
to
follow
the
united
kingdom
in
in
the
shape
of
our
epi
curve,
but
no
one
can
explain
why
they've
seen
that
decline
and
we
don't
know
exactly
what'll
happen.
So
I
know
that
if
we
wear
masks
if
when
we're
among
other
people
and
if
we
get
vaccinated,
we
can
get
through
this
together
and,
as
stacy
pointed
out
eloquently,
you
know
it's
our
obligation
to
do
that,
not
just
for
ourselves,
but
for
our
community
and
our
kids
and
our
in
our
families
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
F
That's
correct:
we
are
not
mandating
a
vaccine
at
this
point
in
time.
The
american
hospital
association,
the
north
carolina
healthcare
association,
a
number
of
large
health
care
systems
across
the
country.
A
number
of
large
organizations
representing
health
care
providers
have
asked
have
endorsed
mandatory
vaccinations
at
this
point
in
time
we
have
not
done
that.
F
We
are
encouraging
every
single
person
in
our
employee
to
become
vaccinated,
but
we
have
not
gone
down
the
route
of
mandating
that
vaccine
at
this
point
in
time
we
believe
they're
highly
safe
and
effective,
and
it's
absolutely
the
right
thing
to
do,
but
we've
not
chosen
to
make
it
mandatory.
Yet.
E
The
american
medical
associations
recommended
hospitals
do
the
same.
You
know,
I
know
you
can't
speak
for
hca
management
and
I
just
say
say
this
with
all
respect
to
you
and
your
position,
but
I
just
think
that's
outrageous
and
unacceptable
and
probably
the
hospital
you
know.
Is
this
community
an
explanation
and
that's
something:
I'd.
F
Hoped
so
let
me
exchange
bound
on
that
then,
given
your
comments
right
now,
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
anytime.
We
make
a
mandate
we're
weighing
the
risk
versus
the
benefits
of
making
that
mandatory
and
the
reasons
to
mandate
vaccination
in
health
care
systems
purportedly
would
be
to
protect
our
patients
from
getting
infected.
Well,
we
know
that
mass
and
social
distancing
and
hygiene
and
gowning
ppe
is
very
effective
at
doing
that,
and
so
right
now
we
have.
F
I
have
no
concerns
about
people
becoming
infected
in
our
walls,
either
from
transmission
from
patient
to
patient
patient,
to
staff
or
staff
to
patient
right
now,
the
vaccine
is
under
an
emergency
use,
authorization
waiting
for
full,
bla
or
biologic
license
application
approval.
That,
to
me,
is
a
technicality.
I
think
we
have
more
than
enough
data
right
now
to
to
support
the
fact
that
these
are
safe
and
effective,
but
technically
the
fda
has
yet
to
fully
license
and
approve
the
vaccine.
F
But
while
we,
if
the
fda,
says,
I
can't
use
a
medication
until
we
get
full
approval,
then
it
troubles
me
personally
to
say
that
we
should
mandate
something
when
it
hasn't
been
fully
approved.
So
it's
a
process
issue
to
me
rather
than
a
safety
or
a
patient
transmission
issue,
and
if
I
thought
for
one
second
that
anyone
in
my
hospital
who
is
a
patient
was
at
risk
of
getting
infection
because
we
weren't
mandating
vaccinations,
then
we
would
do
that.
I
don't
believe
that's
the
case
as
an
employer.
F
E
G
All
due
respect,
dr
hathaway,
I
think
you
just
made
our
jobs
as
county
commissioners
elected
officials,
those
supporting
our
public
health.
I
think
you
just
made
our
jobs
even
more
difficult
to
encourage
buncombe
county
residents
and
those
around
us
to
be
vaccinated
as
a
medical
professional.
When
you're
saying
you're,
waiting
to
mandate
a
vaccine
so.
F
F
I'm
sorry
that
you
feel
that
way,
because
I
would
encourage
everybody,
as
I
have
from
the
dawn
of
the
pandemic,
to
get
vaccinated.
My
family
has
been
vaccinated,
each
all
five
of
us
with
three
different
vaccines,
and
so
I
sincerely
hope
that
they
hear
what
I'm
saying
and
get
the
vaccine
as
soon
as
I.
A
I
don't
see
any
other
questions
at
this
time,
so
dr
hathaway,
thank
you
for
being
here.
We
appreciate
you
sharing
your
perspective
on
all
these
issues
and
we
are
hoping
to
see
these
rates
of
growth
hopefully
start
to
level
off
again.
You
know
we
know,
we've
been
through
this
several
times
before
when
we've
seen
the
numbers
grow
quickly,
so
hopefully
we'll
start
to
see
some
leveling
off
and
and
things
going
in
a
more
positive
direction.
A
A
Right,
miss
saunders
anything
else
from
the
county
staff
at
this
time
now
there
is
going
to
be
some
further
discussion
at
our
five
o'clock
meeting
about
the
county
policies.
Is
that
correct
ms
tinder.
B
Miss
saunders
cash.
You
have
one
more
question,
I
I
this
is
perhaps
well
for
my
benefit,
perhaps,
but
I
think,
perhaps
more
broadly,
what
I'm
hearing
a
lot
from
community
members
is
just
a
bit
of
whiplash.
B
I
think
all
of
us
are
dreading
the
the
realization
of
of
the
seriousness
of
this
moment,
and-
and
so
I
feel
like
this
conversation
today-
sort
of
marks
an
important
community
conversation
for
us
about
really,
let's
put
a
pin
in
and
really
understand
where
we
are.
Can
you
just
kind
of
walk
us
backwards
a
little
bit
and
help
us
understand,
based
on
the
positivity
numbers,
the
transition
rates,
the
spike
you're,
seeing
in
the
doubling
cases?
C
Such
a
great
question
and
max
I'm
going
to
ask
if
you
could
pull
up
that
epi
curve.
That
shows
the
whole
thing,
but
if
you
can't
that's
fine,
I
can
talk
through
it
yeah
you,
you
all
remember
that
in
the
winter
so
january
february
march,
we
saw
incredible
numbers
thanks
max
one
more
one,
more
sorry
there
you
go
yeah,
so
that
very
large
peak
is
the
january
february
march.
That's
when
we
saw
our
highest
rates
of
transmission,
we
were
in
double
digit
digits
percent
positivity.
C
We
had
instance
rates
that
were
not
seen
here
before
when
you
look
at
that
tail
end
of
that
curve.
Clearly
we
are
not
at
that
point.
Yet
what?
What
really
concerns
me
is
the
slope
of
that
epicurve.
We
are
not
seeing
the
level
of
transmission
that
we
saw
at
the
peak
of
our
mo.
Our
most
significant
transmission.
What's
important.
Now,
though,
is
that
we
have
vaccines
readily
available
and
the
more
we
allow
that
to
occur.
The
more
we
allow
the
virus
to
change
its
genome.
C
Like
I,
I
tried
to
explain
this
in
a
way
that
maybe
my
my
kids
would
get
that
each
time
the
virus
comes
inside
of
us.
We
we
give
it
an
opportunity
when
it's
replicating
it's
trying
to
change
itself
up
and
it's
moving
all
these
parts
and
each
time
we
allow
it
to
do
that,
it's
creating
something
it
wants
to
survive
so
more
likely
than
not
we're
going
to
see
things
that
are
stronger
and
more
contagious.
B
That's
helpful
so
at
the
takeaway
level
in
the
simplest
possible
terms,
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
is
if
you
are
not
vaccinated
and
you
can
safely
be
vaccinated,
get
vaccinated
and
you'll
get
100
bucks
if
you're
over
18.
number.
Two,
if
you
are
vaccinated,
mask
up
anytime
you're
indoors
and
if
you
are
in
a
decision-making
position
at
any
organization,
business,
etc,
can
strongly
consider
requiring
mass
indoors.
And
if
you
have
the
capacity
to
to
have
mandates
or
other
systems
to
incentivize
or
require
vaccines.
C
C
Right,
okay
and
we'll
we'll
alert
folks
when
we're
ready
to
do
that
to
give
out
those
incentive
cards
like
I
said
we
are
expecting
them
this
week
and
have
our
team
already
identified
and
ready,
and
so
as
soon
as
we
get
them,
we
will
alert
folks
in
the
community
that
we
have
them.
But
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes
to
everything
else.
Okay,
I
feel,
like
part.
B
A
Just
a
couple
of
follow-up
questions
about
the
the
gift
cards,
so
it's
a
gift
card.
It's
a
hundred
dollar
cash
gift
card
is
that.
C
Right,
it's
a
gift
card.
Yes,
we
just
don't
call
them
gift
cards,
they're
an
incentive
summer
cash
card
cash.
A
Card,
okay,
all
right
and
how
many,
how
long
again,
how
long
do
you
anticipate
we
will
have
them
available.
C
So
the
program
is
expected
to
sunset
at
the
end
of
august,
so
the
last
day
of
august
is
when
it's
been
approved
through.
Okay.
C
A
Then
it
won't
be
available
after
that.
So,
but
is
it
fair
to
say
like
we'll,
be
evaluating
how
effective
that
is
as
an
incentive
to
kind
of
motivate
people,
because,
obviously,
if
it's,
if
we
learn
that
it's
like
that's
a
level
or
for
some
of
the
folks
who
haven't
decided
under
no
circumstances,
I'm
going
to
get
a
vaccine
which
we
know
there's
a
certain
percentage
of
our
population?
That's
currently
looking
at
it.
A
That
way,
there's
some
people
who
who
are
open
to
it
but
just
haven't
gotten
it
yet
right
like
so
how
effective
is?
Is
that
kind
of
financial
incentive
to
for
people
to
say
all
right?
Well,
I'll
go
get
one!
If,
because,
if
it
is
effective,
I
mean
obviously
it
would
be
desirable
to
potentially
continue
it
or
even
expand
it
in
in
some
form
or
fashion.
Beyond
that,.
C
That's
right,
and
so
maybe
about
two
weeks
ago
we
started
asking
folks
that
came
to
our
fixed
site
and
even
outreach.
What
brought
you
in
today
versus
earlier
right,
because
most
of
our
population
has
been
eligible
for
a
while
now,
and
we
will
continue
to
ask
that
question
and
so
get
that
qualitative
sort
of
talking
to
somebody
data,
but
we
monitor
the
vaccine
administrations
every
week.
So
you
know
we're
expected
to
get
them
this
week.
C
If
we
start
to
see
an
uptick
in
the
coming
weeks,
we
can
attribute
some
of
that
to
likely
the
implementation
of
an
incentive
cash
card
and,
as
we
talked
to
folks,
maybe
getting
some
of
that
some
getting
gleaning
more
of
that
qualitative
data
like
we
what
we
found
in
the
first
two
weeks
of
asking
folks
what
brought
you
in
today
versus
earlier.
We
found
two
common
themes,
one
that
someone
I
loved,
told
me
that
I
needed
to
come
and
get
this
not
their
doctor.
Not
me.
C
They
loved
told
them
that
they
needed
to
do
that,
and
the
second
common
trend
that
we
saw
qualitatively
was
that
the
news
of
the
delta
variant
was
pretty
striking
for
folks
and
made
them
feel
some
urgency
to
come
and
get
their
vaccine.
So
we'll
continue
to
do
that
and
see
what
we
find
both
quantitatively
through
how
many
vaccines
we
give
out
and
not
just
us.
So
we
do
meet
weekly
with
our
other
vaccine
providers,
not
only
to
sort
of
coordinate
and
talk
about.
C
Where
are
we
going
to
be
and
help
support
each
other
in
different
outreach
events,
but
begin
to
talk
about
what
do
the
trends
look
like.
A
Okay,
well,
I
just
you
know,
as
we
think
we
have
before
expressed,
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
any
support
we
can
provide,
I
mean,
I
think,
that
obviously
there's,
I
think,
from
many
of
our
perspectives,
there's
bigger
more
important
reasons
to
get
a
vaccine
in
terms
of
protecting
your
health,
and
you
know
avoiding
this
dangerous
illness,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
just
need
to
do
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
get
more
people
vaccinated,
because
it's
the
only
way
this
pandemic
really
ends
and
when
we
look
at
the
total
amount
of
financial
cost
and
economic
damage.
A
That's
been
wrought
by
this
investing
a
hundred
dollars
for
for
the
a
lot
of
the
remaining
folks
to
go
ahead
and
get
a
vaccine
is
probably
a
very
good
use
of
those
funds,
if
that
does
turn
out
to
be
an
effective
motivator
in
some
people's
cases.
So
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
much
any
other
questions
from
the
commission
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
All
right,
commissioners,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
yes,
no.
A
A
A
I
You
good
afternoon
I
do
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
you
about
the
possibility
and
your
desire
in
your
direction
to
establish
an
ad
hoc
reappraisal
committee.
So
just
let
me
go
through
a
few
slides
here,
for
you.
I
Just
a
reminder,
as
we
talk
about
this,
and
if
we
move
forward
that
the
racial
equity
action
plan,
we
should
follow
to
increase
the
diversity
and
representation
on
the
buncombe
county
boards,
and
we
should
apply
that
in
this
committee.
Also,
I
will
go
through
all
those,
I'm
sure
that
you
have
read
them,
so
we
propose
a
membership.
I
Seven
members,
two
members
from
the
board
of
equalization
and
review
five
community
members,
three
at
large
one
real
estate,
professional
residential,
preferred
and
one
equity
representative
county
staff
would
also
attend.
In
addition
to
that,
the
assessor
chief
appraiser
tax
analyst
and
our
county
attorney
a
proposed
timeline
for
the
committee
august
and
august
and
september,
the
board
of
commissions
do
a
selection
process
september,
the
1st
september
1st
committee
meeting
and
then
spring
of
2022.
I
So
and
moving
forward,
I
would
like
to
hear
your
discussion,
your
ideas.
If
this
is
something
you
want
to
consider
and
how
you
would
like
to
move
forward
with
that.
A
Great
keith,
thank
you
so
much
so,
commissioners.
I
think
we
want
to
have
discussion
about
this
idea
at
this
time.
You
know
as
as
we're
all
aware,
this
is
an
issue
that
has
gotten
some
attention
in
the
community.
There's
been
some
media
articles
about
it.
Some
different
organizations
have
been
kind
of
interested
in
this
issue
and
kind
of
kind
of
raising
it,
as
as
concerns
about
you
know
are
we
are,
is
the
revaluation
process
of
the
goal
of
it
being
as
accurate
as
possible?
A
You
know,
you
know,
is
it?
Are
we
getting
it
right?
Basically
and
keith,
and
his
staff
have
been
very
generous
talking
to
us
as
commissioners
about
how
the
process
works.
The
methodologies
they
use,
but
you
know
I
was,
I
think,
one
of
the
commissioners
who
kind
of
raised
this
idea
of
forming
an
ad
hoc
committee
as
a
possible
idea
to
look
at
now.
My
sense
is
that
you
know
this
is
such
a
fundamental
part
of
kind
of
you
know
the
single
biggest
revenue
source
we
have
as
the
county
is.
A
The
property
tax
is
the
property
x
revenues.
This
is
the
whole
methodology
we
use
to
generate
those
revenues,
so
it
is
a
very
important,
it's
very
important
that
we
do
this
as
well
as
we
possibly
can,
and
so
I
felt
like
this
could
be
a
process
where
some
of
the
questions
concerns
that
have
been
raised.
We
could
have
a
good
process
to
get
folks
to
just
you
know,
really
sit
down,
spend
some
time
on
it.
Look
at
it.
A
If
there
are
opportunities
to
further
improve
our
processes,
then
some
of
those
ideas
could
get
talked
about
and
and
come
back
to
us.
So
I
think
that's
the
basic
idea.
We
know
we
already
have
lots
of
groups.
We
already
have
lots
of
meetings,
but
to
me
I
feel
like
regardless
of
exactly
what
the
outcome
of
this
is.
A
I
think
it's
very
important
that
the
public
have
a
lot
of
trust
in
the
credibility
of
our
process,
and
so
since
some
questions
have
been
raised,
spending
some
time
to
look
at
it
and
and
have
have
residents,
come
back
to
us
and
talk
about
any
ideas
for
further
improvements.
I
think
it'd
be
beneficial,
but
we
wanted
to
just
have
some
discussion
about
it
today
and
hear
commissioner's
thoughts
about
that.
A
I
personally
think
the
structure
and
the
rep,
the
composition
of
it,
that
all
sounds
pretty
positive
to
me.
Having
folks
from
the
the
board
of
equalization
makes
a
lot
of
sense
since
they're
already
very
involved
in
some
of
these
issues
and
have
experience
and
the
other
perspectives
sound,
like
they'd,
be
very
valuable
as
well,
so
any
other
any
thoughts
from
other
commissioners.
I
And
you,
you
are
correct,
there's
actually
two:
we
follow
the
international
association
of
assessing
officers,
standards
which
is
published
and
available
for
anyone
that
would
like
to
review
those
and
read
them,
and
that's
a
worldwide
organization
over
all
assessments
in
many
different
countries,
not
just
the
united
states.
The
other
one
is
the
norcon
department
revenue
a
few
years
ago
established
their
own
appraisal
standards.
I
So
we
have
to
go
through
their
process
also,
even
before
we
start
a
reappraisal,
they
have
standards
in
place
that
they
look
at
our
data
and
they
give
us
feedback
about
the
error
rate
that
they
may
find
in
data,
and
then
they
give
us
standards
on
how
to
move
forward
and
what
their
recommendations
would
be
on
the
types
of
reappraisals.
So
yes,
those
all
those
kind
of
things
are
in
place.
I
But
I
think
if
the
committee
brings
that
some
kind
of
trust
to
the
community
that
they
have
had
the
ability
to
get
involved-
or
maybe
a
representative
from
their
community
have
been
able
to
get
involved,
then
I'm
always
happy
to
listen
to
that,
and
you
know
new
ideas
come
from
a
lot
of
different
people
and
how
we
implement
those
and
if
we
can
implement
those,
sometimes
there's
a
little
bit
of
different
consideration.
I
But
I
think
for
me,
if
you're
asking
me
what
I
would
like
from
the
committee
would
be
just
that.
What
are
the
communities
issues?
How
can
I
respond
to
those?
How
can
we
do
a
better
job
in
those
areas
and
where
they
feel
that
we
are
maybe
missing
the
marks
on
so
I
would
like
that
very
honest
feedback.
If
I
can
get
that.
A
You
know-
and
I
I
feel
like
commissioner
wells-
I
mean
on
a
really
basic
level
to
me.
Like
the
one
question,
there's
a
bunch
of
different
ways
of
kind
of
looking
at
some
of
these
things,
but
the
one
question
or
concern
I've
heard
kind
of
elevated
is:
is
there
something
about
the
way
the
rebound
process
is
occurring
today?
A
That
is
resulting
in
a
general?
You
know,
because
there's
thousands
and
thousands
of
different
properties
right
so
like
as
a
generalization
is
there
something
going
on
that
is
resulting
in
a
somewhat
overvaluation
of
lower,
more
modest
homes
and
a
under
valuation
of
more
high-end
homes.
I
think
that's.
The
central
concern
that's
been
raised
is
that
there
is
something
going
on
that
seems
to
there's
some
data
indicating
that
there
could
be
something
going
on
there.
A
So
I
think
kind
of
looking
at
that
question
and
having
the
committee
come
back
and
tell
us
you
know
yeah,
there
might
there
might
be
and
here's
some
ideas
that
maybe
could
address
it
or
here's
why
we
think
that
might
be
occurring
or
or
maybe
maybe
they'll
come
back
and
say.
You
know,
we've
looked
at
this
and
you
know
here's
here's
what
we
found
after
we
dug
into
it.
So
I
think
answering
that
question
is,
is
one
of
the
things
I
would
hope
the
group
would
do.
D
A
You
know
established,
you
know
at
a
professional
level,
but
like
the
appeals
process,
are
there
ways
to
to
make
that
more
accessible
to
folks
in
the
community?
I
think
we
try
hard
to
do
that
already,
but
I
think
it's
probably
fair
to
say
that
folks,
who
you
know
are
have
more
financial
means,
probably
participate
in
the
appeals
process
more.
A
A
You
know
you
know,
make
sure
that
the
that
all
the
residents
of
the
community
have
the
you
know
the
fair
opportunity
to
get
good
outcomes
through
the
process.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
I'm
hoping
they'll
they'll
look
at.
K
Yeah,
I
agree,
the
committee
would
be
great
and
you
know
we
talked
earlier.
You
know
about
the
amount
of
people
that's
appealing
today,
four
years
ago
and
eight
years
ago
has
come
down
what
you
said
from
15
000
used
to
appeal
to
five
thousand
now
so,
and
I
think
you've
tried
every
or
the
staff
down.
There
has
tried
everything
to
get
the
word
out,
but
now
having
a
committee
like
that,
I
think
would
reach
more
people
and
they
could
give
us
information
that
we
really
want
to
hear
now.
K
I
I
can
assure
you,
over
the
years
that
we
have
tried
to
put
many
processes
in
place
to
reach
all
all
areas
of
our
community
in
the
appeal
process,
but
there
are
some
people
who
just
still
struggle
with
the
process
of
just
themselves.
Stepping
up
and
saying
hey.
Take
another
look.
Will
you
so
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
moving
forward
to
kind
of
overcome
that,
then
I
think
that's
the
right
direction,
always.
I
We
have
a
community
or
not,
that's
always
been
the
right
direction,
and
you
know
if
people
just
don't
know
how
to
do
it
or
people
have
fear
of
doing
it
or
whatever
that
might
be.
I
would
love
to
hear
some
of
that
honesty
from
the
community
to
say:
hey,
here's,
what
I
am
hearing
from
my
neighbors
or
why
they
didn't
do
it.
G
G
It
feels
like,
throughout
this
last
one
that
there's
not
necessarily
a
trust
in
how
it
occurred,
and
I'm
hopeful
that
by
hearing
those
citizen
input
and
having
a
really
well-connected
group
serving
on
this,
that
they
can
help
spread
that
a
little
and
educate
the
community,
maybe
in
a
deeper
way
than
then
we've
been
able
to
because
they're
seeing
it
firsthand.
I
think
that's
a
really
key
component
for
me
is
working
on
that
trust
issue
around
the
reevaluation.
I
I
That
people,
maybe
just
automatically
assume
that
we're
the
same,
and
that
may
not
may
not
always
be
true,
and
I
hope
that
it's
not
true,
I
can
pretty
much
say
I
don't
think
it's
true,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
shouldn't
look
right.
You
know
that
we
shouldn't
just
fold
it
back
and
I've
always
been
transparent
with
anybody
that
wants
to
see
what's
going
on
and
want
to
be
involved.
So
it's
not
like
the
books
have
always
been
closed
and
now
we're
going
to
open
them.
F
I
G
I
L
A
All
right
any
other
comments,
commissioners,
so
just
process
to
to
form
this.
It
sounds
like
there's
support
to
to
move
ahead
with
the
proposal.
H
A
A
A
For
introducing
this
and
I
look
forward
to
and
then
so,
people
will
then
apply
to
it
and
we'll
do
our
do
our
process
to
select
the
folks
right.
Okay,
very
good!
All
right!
Thank
you!
Keith
appreciate
it.
Commissioners.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
local
recovery
fund
discussion
so
and
rachel
nygard
is
here
to
help
us
get
started
on
this
big
item.
M
Up
a
presentation:
today's
session
was
titled
on
your
agenda
as
a
workshop,
because
the
intent
is
for
staff
to
bring
updates
about
where
we
are
in
the
process
and
then
cue
the
board
of
commissioners
up
for
a
discussion.
M
Panning
out,
as
a
reminder,
this
is
part
of
the
overall
american
rescue
plan
act
or
arpa.
This
is
the
1.9
trillion
dollar
stimulus
bill
that
was
passed
back
in
march
and
includes
many
types
of
provisions
that
provide
assistance
to
communities
to
respond
to
and
recover
from
covet
19,
as
well
as
assistance
to
individuals
and
their
households,
assistances
to
assistance
to
businesses
and
many
other
categories
of
aid,
be
it
education,
health
care,
etc.
M
Buncombe
county
government
is
in
receipt
of
three
different
allocations
from
arpa
at
this
point
that
we're
aware
of
there's
emergency
rental
assistance
or
era.
Philip
hardin
with
health
and
human
services
has
been
in
communicating
with
the
board
of
commissioners
about
that
and
we've
appropriated
those
funds-
that's
6.2
million.
That's
not
the
entire
amount
that
buncombe
county
is
is
using
for
emergency
rental
assistance,
because
there
were
funds
that
came
through
the
consolidated
appropriation
bill
back
in
december
and
other
funding
sources,
but
6.2
million
from
arpa
to
the
county
for
rent
and
utilities.
M
As
well
as
funding
for
transportation.
We
have
an
award
of
1.2
million
dollars
for
transportation
grants
and
then
finally,
the
50.7
million,
that
is,
the
coronavirus,
state
and
local
fiscal
recovery
fund
for
some
context,
we've
included
information
about
what
the
allocations
to
other
communities
or
other
jurisdictions
are
because
it's
called
state
and
local
north
carolina
has
its
own
allocation
of
funds.
M
Roughly
5.4
billion,
the
city
of
asheville
allocation
is
roughly
26
million.
You
can
see
the
other
amounts
of
the
towns
within
buncombe
county.
These
are
preliminary.
Those
smaller
jurisdictions
get
their
funding
passed
through
the
state
of
north
carolina
and
so
they're
working
on
their
contracts.
Now
and
then
you
can
see
buncombe
county's
allocation
listed
at
the
bottom,
50
plus
million.
M
M
M
Then
we
went
out
for
additional
community
engagement
through
the
through
the
for
input
through
the
form
of
a
survey
and
gathered
some
information
from
the
public
based
on
what
we
knew
then,
as
we
awaited
that
u.s
treasury
guidance
on
the
specifics
of
the
funds
we
received
that
guidance
and
the
funds
in
may
so.
We've
had
the
first
tranche
of
funds,
the
roughly
the
first
half
or
around
25
million
you'll,
see
the
exact
number
on
the
screen.
M
Later
we
received
that
in
may,
as
well
as
the
specific
guidance
from
u.s
treasury,
which
is
where
buncombe
county
gets
their
funds
directly
from
on
exactly
how
the
funds
can
be
used
and
what's
required
and
that
information
is
continuing
to
unfold.
Just
this
week
we
got
the
latest
information
from
treasury
on
reporting.
M
So
we're
here
with
you
today
on
august
3rd
seeking
some
direction
on
initial
investment.
So
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
have
some
conversation
about
some
topics
in
terms
of
directionally
investing.
I
want
to
bring
something
to
your
attention
about
an
urgent
project
request
and
also
today,
august
3rd.
You've
got
full
copies
of
the
proposals.
That's
in
a
link
and
you've
got
access
to
the
full
information,
but
do
be
aware
that
we
as
staff
are
still
going
through
and
vetting
and
scoring
we're
going
to
talk
more
about
that.
M
We'll
be
back
in
front
of
you
in
two
weeks,
with
a
more
in-depth
set
of
information
about
those
proposals
and
what
we
announced
when
we
met.
We
went
out
to
rfp
request
for
proposals
was
that
by
august
31st
we
would
make
some
announcements
of
initial
awards.
The
board
of
commissioners
has
a
special
meeting
scheduled
on
august
31st
at
10.
Am
for
that
conversation
updates.
Since
we
last
spoke,
we
had
told
you.
We
would
be
assessing
buncombe
county's
eligibility
to
claim
any
portion
of
the
funds
for
revenue
loss
and
we
have
determined.
M
We
are
not
eligible
to
do
that.
There's
a
formula
that
looks
at
buncombe
county's
revenues
within
the
determined
period
of
time
at
the
enterprise
wide
level
not
fund
by
fund,
but
buncombe
county
overall,
and
we
are
in
a
strong
financial
position
using
the
formula
given
to
us
are
not
eligible
to
use
funds
in
that
way.
M
Another
update
is
about
staffing.
We
appreciate
the
vote
that
the
board
of
commissioners
took
to
create
new
positions
for
fund
administration.
We
hired
a
person
to
work
as
business
officer
within
strategic
partnerships.
Her
name
is
sarah
jost
and
she's
in
the
room,
and
we
she's
on
staff
and
helping
coordinate
and
manage
these
funds,
and
we
have
the
ability
to
add
up
to
one
or
two
additional
positions
as
needed
for
fund
administration
once
we
have
a
sense
of
what
the
portfolio
of
funds
looks
like
and
what
the
sub-recipient
monitoring
volume.
F
M
Another
final
update
the
last
one
on
that
slide
is
that
we
have
earmarked
an
amount
of
funds
for
vaccine
activities.
You
heard
from
the
health
director
earlier
about
how
the
vaccine
activities
are
continuing.
Public
health
is
actually
has
a
funding
source
through
the
division
of
public
health
at
the
state,
which
I
think
are
federal
funds
as
well
anyway.
M
They've
got
a
funding
source
to
cover
much
of
their
vaccine
activity
work
and
we
have
vaccine
activity
work
that
is
undertaken
by
our
emergency
services,
paramedics
that
assist
with
the
outreach
and
the
logistics
of
those
clinics
so
needing
those
services
to
continue.
As
of
july,
1,
we've
pulled
up
to
543
000
for
the
next
year.
For
that
so
back
to
the
rfp,
we
did
issue
a
request
for
proposals
on
june
3rd
was
open
for
a
six-week
time
frame,
open
to
county
departments,
public
organizations
and
non-profit
organizations
with
the
principal
place
of
business
in
buncombe
county.
M
We
did
not
limit
what
was
eligible.
We
used
the
u.s
treasury
guidelines
as
the
framework
and
had
quite
broad
eligibility
and
undertook
a
intentional
outreach
and
engagement
process
that
included
everything
from
multilingual
access
with
our
recovery
funding
workshop
to
promotion
of
a
new
web
web
page,
which
is
at
buncombecounty.org
recovery
funding.
M
So
we're
looking
at
the
proposals
that
came
in
to
determine
eligibility
based
on
three
criteria.
The
first
is:
do
they
meet
the
criteria
defined
in
the
request
for
proposals
that
is?
Are
they
a
public
or
a
non-profit
organization?
With
a
principal
place
of
business?
In
buncombe
county,
we
sent
out
our
first
list
of
no
notices
to
those
organizations
that
were
screened
as
not
meeting
this
week
and
we're
in
conversation
with
those
organizations.
M
The
second
eligibility
screening
is,
does
the
project
that
they
proposed
and
how
they
structured.
It
fall
into
eligibility
within
fiscal
recovery,
fund
u.s
treasury
guidelines.
So
they
might
have
said.
Yes,
you
may
provide
services
to
disproportionately
impacted
communities,
but
a
particularly
a
particular
proposed
project
might
not
exactly
fit
so
we're
screening
for
that.
The
third
test
is
done
in
collaboration
with
county
legal,
and
this
is
something
that
we
have
built
into
our
regular
grant
processes,
which
is
does
buncombe
county
as
a
local
local
government.
M
M
M
D
M
M
M
M
M
Our
first
pass
at
eligibility
based
on
the
rfp
criteria
found
17
that
did
not
appear
to
be
eligible
based
on
being
a
non-profit
or
a
public
organization
with
a
primary
place
of
business.
In
buncombe,
like
I
said,
we
are
in
communication
with
each
of
those
to
make
sure
that
we
have
all
the
information
that
we
need
to
be
confident
with
that
determination.
M
If
we
set
aside
those
that
were
initially
screened
as
ineligible
for
the
purpose
of
this
slide,
you
can
see
the
way
the
remaining
proposals
break
out
by
category.
This
shows
it
by
the
strategic
plan
focus
area.
That
was
one
of
the
original
principles
that
board
of
commissioners
talked
about
is
sticking
with
the
priorities
that
you've
identified
previously.
M
This
is
essentially
a
group
of
proposals
that
are
bringing
forward
capital
ideas
to
create
hubs
or
centers,
where
activities
will
serve
serve
the
community,
so
it
could
include
a
traditional
community
center
that
you're
familiar
with,
or
it
could
include
a
hub
that
is
going
to
offer
jobs
and
education
and
youth
and
other
programming
that
would
that
would
bridge
across
different
categories,
but
all
kind
of
a
hub
or
a
center-based
model
of
service
homelessness
was
in
the
top
five
dollars
requested
public
health
and
medical.
Also
in
the
top
five
dollars
requested
in
recreation.
M
So
just
another
look
at
the
math
a
reminder
of
the
amount
of
the
first
tranche.
That's
the
treasury
word!
That's
the
first
half
of
funds,
that's
what
we
were
issued
and
received
in
may:
25
million
366
645.
M
M
M
2
million
represents
about
31
of
the
total
purchase
price
for
that
property,
which
is
6.4
million.
The
city
of
asheville
and
dogwood
health
trust
have
each
committed
2
million
for
that,
and
they,
the
organization,
has
400
000
from
private
donors
to
to
make
up
the
balance
so
because
of
the
time
sensitive
nature
of
this
request,
we
understood
that
it
couldn't
be
considered
on
the
timeline
of
all
other
proposals
and
have
pulled
it
forward
for
con.
M
M
For
example,
what
is
the
thinking
around
potential
investment
between
categories,
balancing
that
investment?
Would
it
make
more
sense?
Is
the
board
more
interested
in
focusing
putting
a
lot
of
funds
in
fewer
categories
in
making
a
deeper
impact
or
distributing
that
impact
to
have
a
broader
impact
with
more
types
of
categories
and
more
types
of
projects?
M
M
E
Answer
rachel,
what
something
we've
talked
about
on
a
one-on-one
basis
is,
is
the
the
state's
process
for
matching
funds,
and
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
application
process
for
for
grants
to
match
certain
things.
Is
there
more
you?
Can
you
prepared
to
tell
us
about
that
and
how
that
process
will
work?
And
I
guess
how
long
that
might
take
and.
M
One
of
the
great
advantages
to
not
using
all
the
funds
right
away
is
that
we
may
be
able
to
learn
more
about
other
funding
streams
as
they
flow
down.
So
you
mentioned
the
states.
The
state
has
a
lot
of
coveted
related
funding,
and
so
I
don't
know
specifically
which
one
you're
you've
seen
or
have
in
mind,
but.
M
They're
out
for
sure,
their
allocation
of
state
and
local
fiscal
recovery
fund
the
5.4
billion.
We
don't
yet
know,
we've
seen
some
proposals,
but
we
don't
yet
know
how
all
of
that
will
flow
down,
and
the
same
is
true
for
some
of
the
other
funds
that
are
coming
to
the
community
for
other
topics,
whether
they're
flowing
down
through
the
small
business
administration
or
coming
through
the
department
of
health
and
human
services.
M
E
H
A
All
right:
well,
let's
just
have
some
discussion
about
the
process
and
you
know
thoughts
on
how
we
want
to
approach
all
of
this.
I've
got
a
few
thoughts,
but
anybody
else
want
to
kick
us
off.
J
I'm
willing
to
jump
in
tying
in
with
what
commissioner
sloan
just
mentioned,
because
we
do
know
that
likely
there's
going
to
be
some
matching
state
funds
and
specifically,
we've
seen
that
there
will
be
things
matching
funds
with
broadband
with
water
sewer,
storm
water
with
affordable
housing,
as
well
as
strategic
industry
development
with
workforce
programs.
J
So
I
certainly
don't
think
we
should
get
in
any
kind
of
rush
with
some
kind
of
hard
date.
This
august
31st.
That
was
mentioned,
because
we
really
need
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we're
strategic
and
that
we're
maximizing
the
funds
that
we're
able
to
pull
in
from
the
state
and
potentially
the
federal
government
as
well.
So
that's
one
aspect
of
it
that
I
don't
want
us
to
get
in
a
hurry
and
say:
oh
we've
got
to
go
ahead
and
allot
this
24
million
by
august.
J
I
think
we
need
to
certainly
find
out
more
as
we're
proceeding
and
since
we
just
got
the
link
to
the
proposals,
I
know
we
all
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
of
actually
going
through
and
reading
the
proposals
and
seeing
seeing
what
we
have.
So
that's
just
kind
of
a
initial
thought
about
the
process.
J
G
I'm
also
curious
if
we
know
what
our
municipalities
are
doing
in
terms
of
allocating
the
funds
that
they're
receiving,
because
I'm
really,
I
think,
I'm
kind
of
aligned
with
commissioner
wells
on
that
is.
Let's
look
at
that
broader
impact.
If
we
know
that
the
town
of
weaverville
is
going
to
spend
it
on
a
b
and
c,
can
we
help
maximize
that
or
does
it
then
give
us
the
opportunity
to
look
at
using
funds
for
something
else
so
that
we're
not
duplicating,
but
rather
maximizing
and
broadening
our
impact
that
we
have
with
the
dollars
at
hand?
G
So
I
don't
know
I'm
looking
at
staff:
do
we
have
any
way
of
of
knowing
what
their
process
is?
What
they're
looking
at
doing,
which
could
you
know,
certainly
mean
that
it
is
going
to
take
us
a
little
longer
to
spend
the
funds,
and
maybe
we
do
need
to
look
at
some
that
are
more
time
sensitive
versus
some,
that
we
can
wait
for
state
matching
funds
for
infrastructure
bills
to
come
down.
So
we
may
want
to
also
look
at
time
sensitive
versus,
let's
hold
off
for
a
minute.
A
Okay
and
have
we
so
that's
helpful,
have
we
or
to
get
more
details
on
that?
Would
it
make
sense
for
us
to
maybe
kind
of
have
some
follow-up
communication
with
each
of
them
to
ask
them
to
kind
of
provide
further
updates
on
this
as
they
get
further
into
their
processes,
or
do
we
have
some
plans
around
that.
A
M
G
Exactly
because
there
may
be
things
that
are
coming
through
to
us
that
would
align
with
them
and
better
support
what
they're
looking
at
doing,
maybe
from
that
community
perspective,
so
I
think
any
way
that
we
can
look
at
maximizing
those
dollars
really
for
the
broader
community
to
benefit
from
it.
I
think
we
would
be
really
wise,
otherwise
we
are
going
to
spend
24
million
dollars
just
like
that.
I
don't
think
any
of
us
want
to
make
a
rash
decision
on
that.
L
L
This
is
one-time
funds
folks
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
biggest
bang
for
our
buck
and
we
gotta
be,
I
think,
slower
and
deliberate
with
what
we
do
to
make
sure
that
we
make
the
impact
in
our
community
that
we
need
to
and
sure
it
might
be
slow
to
some.
L
Somehow
we
got
to
coordinate
it
and
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
as
the
old
folks
would
say
make
sure
the
left
hand
knows
what
the
right
is
doing,
but
we've
got
to
make
sure
that's
a
concern.
I
have
you
know
that
we
get
all
this
and
then
we
start
spending
spending
spending
and
then
in
the
middle
we
said,
wait
a
minute
we
should
have
done.
We
didn't
know
this
or
that,
but
that's
my
concern.
L
We
need
to
be,
I
think,
slow
down
and
be
strategic
and
make
sure
that
we
get
the
biggest
bang
problem.
G
You
actually
made
me
think
of
something
else.
Commissioner
white
sides
that,
since
these
funds
are
being
are
designated
to
offset
the
impacts
of
covet
19
and
the
pandemic
on
our
county
as
a
whole,
I
think
being
strategic
about.
It
is
really
the
direction
we
need
to
go,
because
we
are
also
just
learning
what
some
of
the
impacts
of
the
pandemic.
G
Community
and
I
think,
even
as
we
go
six
nine
12
months
down
the
road,
we
can't
even
process
out
what
those
impacts
are
gonna,
be
that
we
can't
forecast.
So
I
think
we
do
have
to
set
funds
aside,
as
we
really
wait
to
see
what
surfaces
as
real
impacts
that
we
just
simply
can't
predict
right
now.
E
It's
my
belief
at
this
moment
without
having
thought
or
read
everything
about
these
applications
or
thought
about
other
projects
we
might
spend
money
on,
but
my
my
thought
is:
we
should
use
these
funds
for
kind
of
permanent
government
related
or
government
adjacent
programs
and
projects,
and
that
kind
of
lends
itself
to
some
of
those
things
that
might
end
up
be
matching
with
the
state's
kind
of
future
matching
program
assuming
that
materializes,
and
so
that
would
be
that's
my
that's
my
hope
and
preference
at
the
moment.
K
Yeah,
this
is
one
time
money
that's
going
to
come
in
and
we
really
need
to
be
smart
about
what
happens
with
this
money
and
find
out
what
help
we
can
get
from
matching
funds.
But
what
commissioner
whiteside
said,
what
we
really
need
to
pay
attention
most
is
what
we're
going
to
get
the
biggest
bang
for
our
buck
now
and
the
future
ahead
of
us,
because
to
help
us
pull
out
of
this.
I
A
You
know
and
not
feel
like
we
have
to
make
rush
decisions.
My
my
hope
also,
though,
as
we
go
through
this,
my
hunch
is
that
there's
going
to
be
things
that
stand
out
as
as
projects
that
will
have
really
strong
support,
so
I
kind
of
I
think
the
idea
of
making
certain
decisions
around
projects
that
either
might
have
some
more
time,
sensitivity
or
which
simply
are
clearly
kind
of
rising
to
the
top.
A
So
maybe
there's
certain
decisions
that
we
can
do
to
go
ahead
and
approve
funds
for,
for
those
and
others
we
might
want
to
take.
You
know
take
further
time
on
to
see
you
know.
What's
the
state
doing
you
know
what
are?
How
do
we
best
leverage
these
funds
for
the
maximum
impact
and
also
just
to
to
do
more
due
diligence
on
them,
and
these
are,
with
these
average
grants
being
over
a
million
dollars
each
one
of
them
is
a
very
big
investment
and.
A
Need
to
make
sure
that
they
are
thoroughly
vetted
and
that
we
have
time
to
get
everyone's
questions.
You.
F
A
G
A
A
As
I
was
reading
the
materials
and
trying
to
prepare
for
this
meeting,
I
found
that
it
was
very
hard
for
me
to
kind
of
come
to
a
personal
position
on
what
might
be
the
right
amount
in
the
different
categories.
Having
not
yet
had
a
chance
to
read
any
of
the
proposals
I
mean.
I
think
you
know
it's
certainly
not
hard
to
imagine
thinking
about.
You
know
if
there's
just
one
scenario
right
like
what.
A
If
we
invested
5
million
in
housing
and
5
million
in
homelessness,
5
million
in
broadband
and
3
million
on
business
recovery,
so
that'd
be
18
million
dollars.
I
mean
I
would
be
very
surprised
if
there's
not
18,
like
way
more
than
18
million
dollars
of
very
compelling
proposals
in
these
areas
that
we've
all
kind
of
identified
as
kind
of
important
priorities,
and
you
know
clearly
related
to
covet
and
its
aftermath
and
then
that
would
leave
that
would
leave
seven
million
dollars
for
other.
You
know
for
other
sectors
that
are
out
there.
A
So
I
mean
that's,
I
don't
know
that's
a
scenario
I
can
imagine
happening,
but
I
also
feel
like
it's
for
me,
it's
just
too
early
in
the
process
to
know
that
any
of
those
numbers
are
the
right
numbers
I
mean
we
might.
I
think,
once
we
dig
into
the
proposals
we
might
say
you
know
gosh,
we've
got
you
know,
we've
got
an
opportunity
here
to
do
something
on
housing
that
could
change
buncombe
county's
future
and
it
needs
10
million
dollars.
A
If
we
did
put
some
numbers
out
there,
I
feel
like
it
would
be
just
we
once
we've
read
all
the
proposals
we
might
just
land
in
a
really
different
place.
So
for
that
reason,
I'm
I'm
not
sure
we're,
maybe
going
to
get
as
far
down
that
answering
that
question
tonight
as
we
as
we
maybe
initially
thought
we
would.
But
do
any
other
commissioners
have
any
kind
of
thoughts
on
on.
E
A
Well
right
and
then
there's
but
then
there's
you
know
yeah
this
bucket
sound,
like
yeah.
We
could
spend
money
in
those
sectors
in
that
amount,
I'm
sure
of
it,
but
then
you
know
there's
17
million
dollars
in
this
sector
around
public
health
and
medical.
I
have
no
idea
what
those
are.
It
might
be.
Something
really
strong
that
you
know
has
really
not
even
been
on
our
radar
yet
are
yet.
A
So
if
I
you
know,
if
we
picked
a
scenario
like
the
one
I
just
described
it's
leaving
not
a
lot
of
funding
for
consideration
in
a
lot
of
other
categories
that
could
have
you
know
maybe
very
strong
proposals.
So
until
I
know
what
things
like
that
are,
I'm
I'm
hesitant
to
kind
of
say.
Here's
how
much
I
would
want
to
kind
of
indicate
is
what
we're
going
to
give
to
to.
A
Others
are
very
large
right
for
really
large
projects
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
projects
that
are
relatively
smaller
and
are
we
going
to
come
through
this
process
and
end
up
investing
significant
amounts
in
you
know
relatively
small
number
of
really
high
impact
projects
or
put
a
lot
of
lesser
amounts
of
funding
around
a
lot,
a
much
larger
number
of
proposals.
So
I
don't
know
if
any
commissioners
have
any
initial
thoughts
on
that
I
kind
of
still
land
in
the
I
kind
of
feel
like.
A
K
A
K
A
Do
we
have
any
initial?
Have
we
made
any
initial
decisions
about
for
these
next
meetings?
How
much
time
we're
setting
aside
for
those
meetings
I
mean
you
know
this
is
obviously
going
to
be
a
pretty
short
discussion
right
now,
but
again
considering
the
scope
of
what
we
have.
I
mean
it's
not
hard
to
imagine
like
spending
like
a
day
or
two
days.
You
know
I
mean
this
is
there's
just
so
much
information
to
work
through
rachel.
Have
the
staff
thought
about
that?
A
H
A
Okay,
so
some
additional
separate
meetings
separate
from
our
regular.
I
think
that
sounds
good.
I
think
it
sounds
really
good.
Look.
I
haven't
read
that
email
yet,
but
thanks
for
getting
some
initial
potential
dates
out
there.
So
well,
commissioners,
any
other
initial
you
know
there's.
A
This
is
just
kind
of
the
kickoff
to
this
process,
so
any
other
thoughts
about
what
you
anything
you
want
to
share
for
the
staff's
benefit
to
hear
in
terms
of
feedback
or
just
any
other
things
about
the
process
that
you
feel
like
you
want
to
see
to
make
sure
we
end
up
making
some
real,
really
good
decisions.
E
I
mean
to
the
extent
it's
helpful.
I
would
try
to
answer
your
question
about
multiple
small
projects
versus
fewer
large
projects,
and
I
think
where
my
head's
at
the
moment
is
that
we
should.
I
would
be
disappointed
if
we
didn't
invest.
You
know
five
million
or
more
in
affordable
housing
and
make
some
substantial
investments
in
a
few
sectors.
A
G
I'm
curious
to
know.
I
know
that
there
were
six
seven
thousand
community
residents
who
had
input
into
what
had
risen
to
the
top
is
kind
of
the
top
10
issues.
I'm
curious
because
I
know
affordable
housing,
homelessness,
workforce
development
was
kind
of
in
like
the
top
three
or
four
of
those.
How
that
community
perception
of
the
needs
aligns
with
the
type
of
rfps
that
we
received.
G
Is
there
some
correlation
there
with
the
projects?
Because
I'm
curious
I
want
to
see
if
we're
looking
at
and
taking
into
consideration
like
there
may
be
community
members
who
see
some
things
from
a
different
viewpoint
than
we
do.
B
G
A
All
right,
well,
commissioners,
as
we
start
reviewing
the
proposals,
you
know
I
would
just
you
know:
the
staff
are
going
to
be
going
through
a
process
to
evaluate
them
for
eligibility,
as
was
discussed.
A
They'll
also
be
doing
some
scoring
of
the
proposals
in
terms
of
how
they,
you
know
how
well
they
match
the
different
criteria
and
priorities
that
have
been
established
so,
but
I
would
just
really
also
encourage-
and
maybe
there's
some
I
don't
know-
maybe
there's
some
matrix-
that
the
staff
might
want
to
share
with
the
commissioners
as
well.
If
we
all
had
some
kind
of
I'm
just
sort
of
thinking
off
the
top
of
my
head
here,
but
some
kind
of
matrix
by
which
we
could
also
as
we're
reviewing
them,
start
prioritizing.
A
You
know
the
projects
that
we
consider
sort
of
top
tier
proposals,
maybe
ones
we're
interested
in,
but
not
sure
yet,
and
then
maybe
ones
that
you
know,
I'm
sure,
there's
a
lot
of
good
ideas
here.
But
you
know
some
way
that
we
can
start
ranking
the
ones
that
we
see
as
the
strongest
or
ones
that
we're
in
you
know
want
to
most
seriously
consider
and
focus
on.
So
I
don't
just
that's
something
to
just
throw
out
to
think
about,
but
I
think
there's
there's
so
many
of
these
I
want.
A
I
want
to
really
ask
folks
to
again
write
down
your
questions
and
start
some
process
for
whereby
we
can
begin
ranking
the
the
proposals
that
we
want
to
really
focus
on
as
the
top
tier
proposals.
So
we
can
flesh
out
some
more
details
around
that,
but
I
just
want
to
share
that
thought.
As
we
begin
diving
into
this
rachel.
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
anything
else
that
you
would
find
helpful
for
us
to
spend
some
time
on
before
we
adjourn
tonight?
A
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
all
right.
Well,
I
appreciate
everyone's
thoughts
on
this.
It
is
a
it's
gonna.
It's
a
really
unique
opportunity
for
us
to
make
a
big
difference.
So
here
we
go.
There's
we've
gone
through
all
the
items
on
our
agenda
for
the
work
session.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
adjourn
this
meeting
and
we'll
be
back
in
just
a
little
over
10
minutes
to
start
the
regular
meeting.