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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (March 3, 2020)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners from March 3, 2020. To see a list of agenda items, or view more Commissioner Meetings, you can visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
One
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
call
this
March
3rd
2020
meeting
of
the
Buncombe
County
Commission
to
order.
We
don't
have
our
usual
introductory
video
for
the
meeting
this
evening,
but
I
want
to
welcome
you
all
and
thank
you
all
for
attending.
Let's
begin
our
meeting
with
a
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
If
everyone
please
rise
and
join
us
in
the
pledge.
A
A
Thank
you
all
right
before
we
begin
our
meeting
I
want
to
announce
that
we
have
parking
validation
for
any
folks
who
are
attending
the
meeting
this
evening,
who
parked
in
the
county's
parking
facility
next
door
or
who
used
transit
to
travel
to
the
meeting.
You
can
get
validation
from
one
of
our
officers,
who
was
with
us
this
evening
feel
free
to
see
them
on
the
way
out.
We
want
to
begin
our
meeting
this
evening
with
a
recognition
of
County,
Commissioner,
Mike,
fryer
and
so
I'm
gonna.
A
B
Brenda
Christie,
we
have
a
plaque
here
that
is
a
small
token
or
what
Mac
fryer
meant
to
Buncombe
County.
You
know
all
the
days
he
come
home
at
the
kitchen
table,
stacked
up
three
foot
high
with
paper
work.
He
brought
home.
He
was
one
of
the
few
people,
commissioners
that
probably
worked
80
hours
a
week.
If
he
went
and
aggravating
everybody
here,
40
hours,
he
was
aggravating
you
at
home
and
I've
heard
John's
conversations
at
night
or
men.
Fryer
was
talking
about
why
I
didn't
do
this
or
why
somebody
else
done
something.
B
So
we
can
talk
about
him
forever,
but
this
plaque
presented
to
you,
Mike
fryer,
welcome
County
Board
of
Commissioners
2012
to
2020
a
servant
to
the
people,
a
Buncombe,
County
and
dedicated
member
of
the
board
of
commission.
We
are
forever
grateful
quote
from
Mike
fryer
and
we
all
know
it
and
we've
heard
it
so
many
times,
but
I
want
to
read
it.
B
I
want
to
work
for
the
people
of
my
district
I
want
to
work
for
the
people
of
the
whole
county,
I'm,
a
dollar
and
cents
type
person
and
I'm
going
to
fight
for
the
dollars
and
cents.
I
love,
Buncombe,
County
and
appreciate
the
people
of
Buncombe
County
Mike
fryer
Brenda
with
honor
I
want
to
present
this
to
you
and
Christian.
C
A
A
Our
new
County
Commissioner
to
fill
the
vacancy
that
we
have
in
the
district
for
the
remainder
of
commissioner
fryers
term,
and
so
we
have
Jerry
V
Hahn
with
us
who
would
like
to
ask
to
come
up
and
mr.
Anthony
Penland
will
join
him
and
mr.
pin
'land
feel
free
to
invite
anyone
else.
Who
you'd
like
to
ask
to
join
you
in
the
swearing-in
as
well.
D
Chairman
Newman
and
commissioners,
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
able
to
do
over
my
16
years
at
mayor
Woodfin,
is
occasionally
administer
those
of
office
to
a
law
enforcement
officer
or
to
even
one
of
our
new
elected
alderman
and
always
considered
that
an
honor
today.
I
get
to
take
another
step
above
that
and
swear
in
their
newest
commissioner,
who
I
consider
this
to
be
an
extreme
honor
and
I.
E
E
E
E
A
All
right,
Commissioner
Penland
on
behalf
of
all
the
county
commissioners,
congratulations
on
your
appointment
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
for
the
remainder
of
2020.
So
is
there
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
say
before,
before
we
kind
of
move
on
to
the
next
times?
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
for
this
this
evening.
All
right
I
need
to
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
A
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
County
Commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions,
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office
and
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
would
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
A
B
F
B
A
A
G
Quite
a
bit
on
the
consent
agenda
and
the
last
two
or
capital
budget
amendments
for
school
capital
needs
and
I'd
like
to.
We
don't
have
to
pull
those
to
go
into
the
vein
to
the
Mamie.
We
leave
them
in
consent,
but
I'd
like
to
have
both
of
them
explained
if
the
people
at
home
or
in
the
audience,
if
you're
using
your
electoral
device,
you
can
click
on
the
ordinance
and
see
the
items
that
are
included,
and
you
can
summarize
just
a
few
of
those
things
if
you
want
to
that's
in
there.
G
But
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
that
that
is
a
that
is
funded
by
that
that
construction
is
fun
about
a
sales
tax
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
understood
that
and
that
they
saw
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
that
are
being
done
at
this
at
the
schools.
I
think
it's
important
I
can.
G
H
So
I'm
Jennifer
Barnett
with
budget,
so
the
two
budget
amendments
that
inner
belcher
is
referencing
is
for
two
of
our
capital
projects.
Funds.
One
is
specific
to
a
share
of
the
article
39
sales
tax,
which
is
dedicated
to
fund
school
capital
projects
and
the
fund.
326
are
those
projects
that
are
identified
submitted
by
those
school
systems,
so
Asheville
City,
Schools
and
Buncombe
County
Schools
to
the
school
capital
fund,
Commission,
the
school
capital
fund,
Commission
reviews
those
requests
and
recommends
priority
of
funding.
Those
particular
projects
with
the
sales
tax
proceeds.
H
Commissioner
Belcher
asked
for
a
few
of
those
Emma
elementary
school
fire
alarm
system,
Valley
Springs,
Middle,
School,
roofing,
WD,
Williams,
elementary
school
roofing,
Montford,
school
critical
property,
Irwin,
Roberson,
intermediate
schools,
project,
north
Buncombe,
high
school
gym,
bleachers
and
owen
high
school
track
replacement.
So
there
were
a
considerable
number
of
projects
that
have
been
on
the
books
and
for
a
few
cycles
and
are
ready
to
be
closed.
The
total
amount
for
those
projects
was
11
million.
Three
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand
three
hundred
and
ninety
two
dollars
out
of
those
projects.
H
G
A
All
right,
thank
you.
All
right,
I'll
make
the
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
I
want
to
add
some
language
on
the
item,
the
request
to
waive
occupancy
tax
penalty
for
the
boat,
catcher
motel,
and
the
reason
is
that
we've
been
advised.
We
have
to
give
a
specific
reason
that
the
penalties
being
waived.
The
reason
is
that
there
was
a
medical
emergency
of
a
family
member
and
the
boat.
A
Catcher
motel
has
never
requested
a
waiver
before
they
fully
paid
everything
it
was
just
a
a
very
minor
is
just
overdue
by
a
very
small
amount
of
time.
So
we
needed
to
add
that
language
to
the
motion
so
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
with
that
additional
language
on
that
particular
item.
A
I
Thank
You,
commissioner,
with
the
outbreak
of
corona
virus
in
the
United
States
and
now,
specifically
in
North
Carolina
I,
want
to
ask
dr.
mullendore
or
a
medical
exam
and
flesh
the
trove,
a
preparedness
director
to
just
give
you
a
quick
briefing
on
what
the
county
is
doing
to
be
prepared
for
Kovan
19
in
our
community.
J
Good
evening,
chairman
and
commissioners,
so
the
health
and
safety
of
our
community
are
our
number
one
priority.
Of
course,
and
while
we
have
no
confirmed
cases
of
the
corona
virus
disease
2019
commonly
known
now
as
Cove
in
nineteen
in
Buncombe
County,
you
may
have
heard
that
this
afternoon,
North
Carolina
announced
that
we
do
have
the
first
case
in
a
wait,
County
resident
and
so
again
this
today's
announcement
represents
just
an
isolated
case.
J
This
does
not
mean
that
there
is
widespread
community
outbreak
of
Kovan
19
and
North
Carolina
and
I
would
say
that
we've
been
for
the
last
several
weeks,
preparing
following
guidance,
of
course
from
the
CDC
and
the
state
Division
of
Public
Health
public
health
in
this
country
is
multi-layered
right.
So
we
have
the
federal
CDC's
sending
information
to
the
state.
Who
then
sends
it
out
to
the
local
health
departments
and
the
goal
is
to
detect
and
contain
cases
of
the
virus
in
the
United
States.
J
The
greatest
risk
remains
in
people
who
have
traveled
to
areas
with
widespread
ongoing
transmission,
which
the
CDC
defines
as
traveled
a
certain
area
to
China
to
Iran,
Italy,
Japan
and
South
Korea.
At
this
time-
and
we
know
this
is
an
ever
evolving
situation
right
every
day-
there's
new
reports
and
new
cases
identified
and
it's
over
the
last
several
days
in
the
United
States
different
states,
so
I
would
just
encourage
people
to
pay
attention
to
reputable
sources
of
information.
J
The
CDC
is
where
I'm
directing
people
to
go
and
in
our
community
over
the
last
several
weeks,
we've
been
working
with
multiple
partners,
so
information
is
being
shared
with
healthcare
providers,
health
systems,
schools,
universities,
childcare
facilities,
employers,
the
general
public.
What
do
they
need
to
know
in
order
to
prevent
and
minimize
the
spread
of
this
infection?
Should
it
make
it
into
our
community
and
I'll?
Let
Fletch
talk
a
little
further
about
specific
preparedness
activities
that
were
involved
in
but
I'm
available
for
questions
afterwards.
K
Good
evening
I'm
a
Fletcher
tove,
the
public
health
emergency
preparedness
coordinator.
As
dr.
mullendore
said,
this
is
a
constantly
evolving
situation.
So
one
thing
we've
done
is
move
our
County
epidemiology
team
into
a
weekly
up
racial
cycle.
We've
also
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
greatly
expanded
involvement
in
the
epidemiology
me
ology
team
to
include
both
city
in
County,
school
representation,
the
city
of
Asheville,
the
airport
and
local
hospitals.
K
What
we're
doing
there
is
digesting
the
latest
updates
and
guidance
from
the
CDC
and
planning
how
to
push
it
out
to
the
community,
we're
reviewing
our
response
plans
and
adapting
them
to
combat
this
specific
threat.
Plans
were
looking
at
include
our
All
Hazards
based
plan,
our
high
consequence
pathogen
plan,
our
continuity
of
operations,
plan
in
our
isolation
and
Quarantine
plan.
We've
also
set
a
weekly
media
availability
to
speak
specifically
to
this
kovin
19
response,
which
we
established
last
week
and
meets
on
thursdays
at
2:30.
K
We've
also
been
working
closely
with
taylor
and
emergency
management
to
put
together
proposal
for
Averell
to
establish
a
formal
Jick,
a
joint
information
center
to
help
us
coordinate
all
communications
between
the
media.
The
public
and
public
health
in
the
county
to
filter
in
are
all
requests
and
make
sure
we
have
one
solid,
unified
voice
in
our
response.
K
To
that
end,
a
couple
of
things
we've
established
to
help
us
gather
information
from
the
public
is
we've
made
a
new
email
account
available.
That's
ready
at
buncombe,
county
org,
re
ad
Y
at
Buncombe,
County
org,
and
that's
to
filter,
non-medical
questions
that
the
public
might
have
about
how
to
prepare
for
Kovan
19
questions
such
as
maybe
businesses
have
questions
about
how
to
prepare
their
staff
or
home
might
have
questions.
K
Finally,
things
families
can
do
at
home
to
get
ready
is
think
about
what
what
will
you
do
with
your
kids?
If
schools
might
be
shut
down
for
a
month,
what
kind
of
non-perishable
goods
do
you
have
in
at
home?
Do
you
have
enough
to
last
for
two
or
three
weeks,
do
you
have
toilet
paper
on
hand,
food
for
your
dogs?
Do
you?
Are
you
stocked
up
on
your
prescription
medicines?
A
A
You
know
this
says
folks
have
said
this
is
an
unpredictable
kind
of
a
issue
that
we're
facing
and
we
don't
know
exactly
how
it'll
play
out,
but
I
appreciate
this
initial
update
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
have
regular
updates
on
this
and
perhaps
that
are-
plan
to
have
some
a
further
discussion
at
our
next
meeting
as
well.
So,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
tonight.
A
We
look
forward
to
continuing
the
discussion
about
what
we
as
a
community
can
do
and
also
what
the
county
will
be
preparing
to
do
to
address
this.
You
notice
unfolding
new
illness
that
our
country
and
different
countries
are
facing.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
all
right,
miss
Pender
anything
else
under
a
county
manager
report
all
rights.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
under
old
business
is
a
resolution
for
the
issuance
of
the
2020
limited
obligation,
bonds
for
County
and
public
school
capital
projects
and
Don
Warren
will
present
this
item.
L
L
Technology,
it's
awesome
all
right
all
right,
so
the
approving
resolution
for
the
issuance
of
the
28:20
labs
ratifies
the
authorization
from
the
preliminary
resolution,
which
is
what
I
gave
you
at
the
last
meeting.
It
also
authorizes
the
chairman,
County
manager
and
finance
director
to
deliver
the
official
statement,
which
is
the
final
bond
document
that
gives
us
all
the
information.
The
amortization
schedules,
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
It
approves
the
financing
of
the
projects
and
refinancing
of
the
identified
debt
issues.
L
So
the
anticipated
bond
issue
I'm,
going
to
give
you
a
reminder
on
this,
is
it
will
not
exceed
two
hundred
twelve
million
dollars?
There's
new
debt,
which
we
have
gone
and
looked
at
the
projects
again.
So
now
we
got
twelve
million
of
county
projects
and
approximately
22
million
of
city
and
school
projects,
and
then
those
projects
were
already
approved
in
the
2018
and
2019
budgets
and
the
school
capital
Commission
approved
all
the
school
projects.
L
Thank
you.
The
refinancing
is
not
to
exceed
one
hundred.
Seventy
two
point:
five
million,
and
these
are
the
issues
that
we're
talking
about
the
two
thousand
nine
a's,
the
ten,
a
and
b
the
12s,
the
14,
a
and
B,
and
then
the
2015
lobs,
and
as
at
the
time
of
doing
this
slide,
we
are
at
about
20
and
a
half
million
over
the
next
15
years
of
savings.
L
L
So,
as
you
can
see,
I
mean
we
are
averaging
well
over
a
million
and
a
half
savings
over
the
next
15
years
go
to
the
next
slide,
and
then
this
is
the
list
of
projects
as
a
reminder
of
what
we
will
be
financing.
You
see,
the
library
is
the
big
one
on
here
and
they
got
the
courthouse
detention
center
next
slide.
No,
thank
you.
L
City
Schools
projects.
You
got
the
RTC
demolition,
Hall
Fletcher
replacement,
hull
Fletcher
restrooms,
still
not
working
Buncombe
County
school
projects,
and
none
of
these
have
changed
from
the
last
time
I
presented
to
you
next
one,
please
welcome
county
school
next
one
and
then
this
is
both
school
districts.
So
we
have
the
radio
upgrade
the
security
assessment
and
then
an
engineering
study
for
the
radio
upgrade
next
one,
please
so
the
next
steps
we
had
a
phone
call
earlier
today
with
the
LGC.
They
went
over
our
application
and
everything
they
had
no
questions
for
us.
L
Local
government
Commission
in
North
Carolina,
in
order
for
us
to
even
consider
issuing
that
we
have
to
get
permission
from
the
local
government
Commission
the
LGC.
We
have
the
file
application
with
them.
We
have
to
go
through
a
lot
of
different
meetings
with
them
for
them
to
look
at
our
projects
and
make
sure
that
their
actual
valuable
projects
to
the
community
before
we
even
get
to
this
point,
where
we're
talking
to
you,
so
we
had
our
final
call
with
them
today
and
they
have
approved
our
application.
So
now
we
can
move
forward.
L
We
had
a
credit
rating
agency
meeting
last
week
and
our
Chairman
joined
us.
Our
county
manager
assistant
county
managers,
the
rating
agencies,
Moody's
and
Standard
&
Poor's
came
in.
They
went
through
a
lot
of
information
that
we
provided
them.
We
gave
them
a
tour
of
the
county,
talked
about
projects.
L
We
should
be
getting
our
rating
agency
ratings
back
somewhere
around
March,
13th
and
then,
and
we
anticipate
those
to
be
reaffirmed
as
to
what
our
ratings
are:
we're
triple-a
rating
and
then
in
326
we
market
and
sell
the
bonds,
and
then
sometime
in
April
we
will
have
a
big
signing
party.
Well,
we
would
close
on
all
the
documents
and
put
this
thing
to
bed
next
slide.
So
you
have
any
questions.
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
those
for
you.
G
L
L
General
guideline
is
three
to
five
percent
is
a
good
savings.
We
were
achieving
anywhere
from
8
to
15%
savings
on
the
various
series,
so
it
just
made
a
lot
sense
to
refinance
those
take
advantage
of
the
lower
interest
rate
markets
and
then
use
that
savings
to
offset
our
current
debt
service,
and
then
it'll
also
put
us
in
a
good
position
when
we
come
back
next
year
or
the
year
after
with
more
school
capital
projects,
and
that
savings
will
help
us
and
we
won't
have
as
much
debt
service
payments.
Okay,
thanks.
N
A
A
motion
in
second
to
approve
the
resolution
for
the
issuance
of
the
2020
limited
obligation,
bonds
for
County
and
public
school
capital
projects.
We've
talked
about
this
a
few
times
before,
and
you
know
this
is
a
big-ticket
item.
I,
don't
know
that
there's
any
controversy
around
it,
but
I
think
it'd
be
appropriate
to
just
ask
if
there's
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
ask
about
it,
just
a
lot
of
the
significant
taxpayer
investments
involve.
So
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
comment?
Yes,
sir
I.
O
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
as
I
went
through
this
before
I
came
to
the
meeting
today,
something
jumped
out
at
me.
Twenty
million
dollars
and
I
heard
something
said
about
saving
money
and
I,
appreciate
that,
because
I
think
that
20
million
in
the
honour
of
what
we
talked
about
with
Mike
tonight,
asking
about
dollars
and
cents
that
that
20
million
either
should
go
to
their
existing
debt,
our
reduction
in
tax
for
the
taxpayers.
O
A
P
P
Next,
in
2016,
the
North
Carolina
namun,
one
Board
determined
that
we
were
not
a
consolidated
center.
We
were
a
co-located
center.
That
means
that,
ultimately,
our
expenses
have
been
reported
as
one
group
and
now
had
to
be
reported
per
agency
in
fiscal
19.
The
cost
for
the
Asheville
City
Police
Department
to
answer
in
dispatch
number
one
calls
was
a
hundred
and
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars.
P
P
P
P
So
in
fiscal
nineteen,
that
example
looks
like
this.
Buncombe
County
took
a
hundred
and
fifty
five
thousand
nine.
When
one
calls
we
reported
a
total
of
five
hundred
and
sixty-five
thousand
dollars
in
expenditures.
Our
expenditures,
divided
by
those
9-1-1
calls,
would
establish
a
per
call
rate
of
three
dollars
and
sixty
five
cents,
Asheville
city
took
thirty.
Eight
thousand
9-1-1
calls
that
thirty-eight
thousand
at
that
per
call
rate
comes
out
to
estimated
secondary
funding
of
a
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars.
P
Addendum
number
three
allows
Buncombe
County
to
be
reimbursed
for
money
that
were
already
paying
for
equipment
used
by
Asheville,
Police
Department
communications.
The
city
of
Asheville
will
become
a
secondary
piece
app
and
the
north
carolina
nam.
Will
one
board
will
transfer
a
secondary
piece
that
funding
to
the
county
to
cover
those
costs?
G
P
Every
year
we're
required
to
report
our
expenditures
to
the
state
and
that
has
gone
on
as
we
were
combined
and
as
we
weren't
when
we
have
merged
two
groups
out
of
that
Center
this
year.
So
our
reports
changed.
We
have
a
county
report
essentially
in
a
city
report
and
that
one
hundred
and
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars
is
from
that
city
report
that
we
then
discussed
with
the
state.
Q
E
P
Is
the
piece
right
now
that
is
missing
so
with
this
third
addendum
and
once
we
submit
that
addendum
and
the
signs
paperwork
to
the
North
Carolina
Nam
on
one
board
that
will
allow
Asheville
City
to
be
named
an
official
secondary
Center,
which
then
releases
that
funding,
but
up
until
now
that
has
not
occurred.
Why.
P
Think
it's
a
combination
of
things
originally
when
we
were
consolidated
and
reporting
our
expenditures.
I've
consolidated
secondary
piece
apps
did
not
exist
in
North
Carolina,
so
it
wasn't
an
issue
when
this
began.
It
became
an
issue
over
time,
and
this
is
us
trying
to
address
that
now
and
make
it
right.
Thanks.
Q
R
P
E
P
F
G
P
A
A
I
A
A
T
T
So
we
wanted
to
bring
to
you
tonight
just
a
brief
presentation,
as
we
make
a
request
to
let
an
RFP
request
for
proposals
for
the
Comprehensive
Plan
in
terms
of
the
conference
of
planning
for
the
county.
There's
two
key
dates
you
need
to
be
aware
of
one
is
1998,
that
was
the
formation
of
the
county's
first
comprehensive
Land
Use
Plan.
Secondly,
our
most
current
comprehensive
land
use
plan
was
updated
in
2013.
That's
this
document
here
specifically
for
our
community
is
our
self.
We
know
we're
popular
or
a
gateway
community.
Obviously
it's
a
springboard
for
people.
T
Movement
before
coming
in
people
are
leaving,
residents
are
coming
for
services
or
a
regional
hub,
we're
definitely
popular
we're
also
in
the
midst
of
development
boom.
With
that
being
said,
we
have
certain
things
we
have
to
plan
for
in
a
gateway
community,
given
our
popularity
in
some
of
our
constraints,
including
the
protected
ridges,
our
steep
slopes,
our
limited
infrastructure
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide.
In
the
county
itself,
we
have
some
unique
constraints
that
you
may
not
find
in
other
Main
Street
communities
across
the
United
States,
obviously
we're
a
tourist
draw.
T
We
have
the
same
thing
that
draws
folks
places
like
Nashville
and
Charleston,
the
Florida
Keys
and
other
places
like
that.
We
definitely
have
uniqueness
here.
At
the
same
time,
we
have
some
interesting
areas
that
other
places
don't
the
IV
watershed
in
the
northeast
quadrant
of
the
county.
We
have
the
Pisgah
National
Forest.
We
have
the
Blue
Ridge
Parkway.
We
have
the
areas
in
yellow
which
represent
the
zoning
overlays,
which
we
all
agree,
that's
something
we
definitely
want
to
protect
with
our
steep
slopes
and
our
protected
ridges.
T
T
We
also
have
a
number
of
flood
plain
areas
with
the
Swannanoa
and
the
French
Broad
numerous
tributaries
trout
waters,
things
that
draw
people
in
from
all
across
the
country
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide.
This
is
just
a
sort
of
a
look
in
time,
given
that
development
constraint
map-
and
this
is
already
dated
this
is
2018.
This
is
a
heat
map
that
just
shows
some
of
the
development
areas
in
the
county.
Obviously,
some
of
the
more
developable
areas
follow
those
infrastructure
corridors
in
the
French,
broaden,
Swannanoa
valleys
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide.
T
So
if
you
look
at
it
from
an
infrastructure
perspective,
these
are
just
parcels
that
are
within
100
feet
of
say,
water
and
sewer
lines.
Obviously,
the
big
large
green
area
south
of
Asheville
is
the
Biltmore
Estate
likely
not
going
to
see
much
development
there,
but
the
areas
surrounding
the
municipalities
themselves,
six
in
total,
are
the
areas
where
you
see
the
greatest
potential
excellent
case.
In
point
on
your
on
your
left
and
they're,
the
former
ETJ
areas,
these
were
abolished
back
to
General
Assembly
in
2012
and
2013.
Those
are
Weaverville
and
Asheville
unique
to
the
area.
T
Considering
that
only
three
ET
J's
were
abolished
across
the
state,
the
third
one
has
been
so
to
reside
in
the
county,
you're
right,
the
bigger
picture.
The
zoning
map
simply
follows
some
of
the
more
urban
areas
of
the
county
itself,
the
remainder
of
the
areas
more
rural
in
nature.
So
therefore,
you
see
that
it
has
limited
potential
a
lot
of
those
folks
out
there
on
septic
and
wells,
so
you
have
larger
tracts.
You
have
steeper
slopes,
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide,
so
why
create
a
comprehensive
plan?
T
Well,
it's
a
chance
for
the
community
to
have
a
conversation
on
how
we
want
to
grow
in
the
future.
It's
a
chance
for
us
to
put
a
vision
forward
about
what's
important
to
us.
Obviously,
the
conversation
here
is
all
about
land
land,
land
and
the
competition
for
land.
There's
competition
for
residential
institutional
there's,
the
competition
for
economic
development,
there's
a
competition
to
make
sure
that
we
preserve
environmentally
sensitive
areas.
So
what
do
we
need
to
do?
Well,
we
can't
automatically
create
solutions
to
our
problems.
T
We
can't
simply
build
our
way
out
of
the
problem,
as
it
relates
to
things
like,
affordable
housing.
We
can't
build
a
network
of
new
roads
without
ease
with
these,
so
we
have
to
innovate
so
when
you
cannot
automatically
create
you
innovate.
So
since
we
have
such
unique
challenges,
we
give
in
our
popularity
topography,
limited
infrastructure,
we'll
need
to
customize
a
plan
to
fit
our
area
and
balance
the
needs
of
our
residents.
T
The
reason
now
that
we're
coming
forward
to
you
is
you
have
to
do
as
much
pre-planning
the
plan
as
you
do
actually
creating
the
plan
itself.
So
let's
talk
for
a
minute
where
we
are
in
time
and
let's
talk
for
a
minute
about
what
are
some
of
the
differences
between
what
we've
done
thus
far
with
a
strategic
plan
versus
what
we're
doing
as
a
comprehensive
plan.
I'm
gonna
read
you
a
couple
of
statements
very
quickly
from
dr.
T
Gary
Cooper,
as
am
an
emeritus
professor,
with
AB
State
University,
and
he
succinctly
put
together
a
sort
of
a
citizen's
guide.
How
to
he
says
a
good
clearly
articulated
plan
forms
the
basis
of
a
community's
vision
in
its
future.
A
good
plan
ensures
that
a
community
can
provide
services.
A
good
planning
process
involves
a
wide
variety
of
citizens
and
interests.
T
Comprehensive
planning.
The
larger
of
the
three
circles
is
the
preparation
of
a
plan
with
a
broad
scope
involving
a
range
of
subjects,
from
land-use
to
infrastructure
and
housing
for
a
target
timeframe,
usually
15
to
20
years
or
so
a
strategic
plan,
a
shorter
term
look
into
the
future
where
priorities
are
established
and
a
specific
action
plan
is
prepared
to
address
these
priorities.
The
standalone
plans
themselves,
examples
may
be
say
an
aging
plan,
but
the
comprehensive
plan
can
form
a
basis,
give
citizens
the
elected
officials
a
basis
for
making
a
decision.
T
So
if
it's
something
we
want
to
support,
we
should
probably
include
a
component
in
the
conference
plan
so
that
that
being
said
tonight,
we
are
asking
for
the
ability
to
go
ahead
and
release
a
request
for
proposals
out
to
the
consulting
community
so
that
we
can
get
an
idea
of
what
they
come
back
with
in
terms
of
a
budget.
This
is
not
a
budget
request
that
follows
as
part
of
the
capital
improvement
plan
and
that's
going
to
follow
into
the
budget
process
itself.
T
So
one
way
to
think
about
strategic
planning
versus
comprehensive
planning
I'm
going
to
use
an
example.
A
comprehensive
plan
make
all
four
complete
streets.
That's
a
policy
that
the
North
Carolina
Department
of
Transportation
recently
instituted,
and
it
basically
says
if
they're
gonna
do
a
road
project
in
an
area
and
say
they're
in
one
of
those
more
urban
areas
we
might
want
a
sidewalk
to
connect
with
the
city
of
Asheville.
Sidewalk
system
doesn't
make
necessarily
make
sense
in
a
more
rural
area,
but
it's
there.
If
we
need
it.
T
A
standalone
plan
would
call
for
sidewalks
to
be
constructed
on
specific
corridors
and
a
strategic
plan
will
call
for
the
expenditure
of
funds
to
construct
a
sidewalk
in
the
identified
area,
the
point
being.
They
all
need
each
other,
they
all
sort
of
interrelate
and
they
all
form
a
basis
to
evaluate
requests.
They.
T
G
So
we
just
recently
approved
connection
of
the
bridge
on
smokey
Park
to
Sand
Hill
Road,
that
included
the
Complete
Streets
design
right
right.
So
just
for
a
future
thing,
I'm
thinking
of
you
said
to
connect
to
the
city
of
Asheville's
sidewalk
system,
so
located
very
close
to
just
right
across
the
street,
from
the
bridge
is
incomplete
connections
of
that
Sidewalk
system
from
exit
44
right,
okay
to
the
Inca
red
light.
So
as
we
as
we
look
at
this
planning,
could
you
just
put
a
a.
T
I
can
I
think
you'll
like
what
I'm
gonna
say,
because
that
is
transportation.
It's
absolutely
a
component
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
one
of
those
components
would
also
include
multimodal
to
make
sure
we
pick
up
those
critical
connections
where
the
county
and
and
the
the
former
ETJ,
where
it
makes
sense
to
have
those
urban
connections
and
provide
people,
not
just
an
automobile
connection.
So.
G
In
the
area
that
I'm,
specifically
speaking
of,
is
not
in
the
ETJ
it's
in
this,
it
is
in
the
city,
and
it
has
sidewalks,
said
I
think
we're
completed
by
the
businesses
as
a
requirement
of
the
city
right,
okay,
and
so
because
of
that
you
have
gaps.
You
know
there,
and
if
people
are
going
to
be
coming
across
that
red
light
walking
to
school,
then
they
need
to
be
able
to
have
some
of
those
connections.
So
it
might
be
something
to
be
to
have
a
conversation
pretty
pretty
soon
with
the
with
the
city.
Definitely.
T
The
other
thing
to
mention
is
that,
as
we
move
forward
with
160
d,
which
is
north
carolina,
general
statutes
basically
is
combining
all
the
enabling
legislation
for
cities
and
counties
into
one
document.
You're
gonna
see
a
number
of
text
amendments
moving
forward
to
this
effect,
but
it
actually
does
require
a
comprehensive
plan.
We
we
do
meet
that
requirement,
but
we
are
quickly
outgrowing
our
current
plan,
so
the
time
is
now
to
really
have
this.
Come
sation
you're,
seeing
a
number
of
passionate
challenges,
also
passionate
conversations
come
out
in
the
public
hearings.
T
This
is
a
way
to
sort
of
evaluate
what
our
needs
are
in
a
wholesome
plan
and
we
never
had
a
true
comprehensive
plan.
Although
we
have
had
a
comprehensive
land
use
plan
next
slide
scope.
These
are
just
some
of
the
components
that
you
might
see
in
a
comprehensive
plan
now,
because
this
is
a
public
process.
We
will
have
multiple,
multiple
sessions
that
we're
going
to
outline,
especially
when
we
ask
the
consultants
to
outline
specifically
what
their
plan
would
be
for
community
engagement
instead
of
just
listening
to
concerns.
T
We
plan
on
a
traveling
Roadshow
to
go
to
all
corners
of
the
county
to
listen
to
what
the
concerns
are
in
our
area.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
plan
for
the
rural
needs
of
sandy
mush
and
the
more
urban
needs
of
Emma.
So
these
are
scope
for
now.
These
are
some
of
the
components,
but
obviously
in
coordination
with
the
public
and
coordination
with
you
all.
As
elected
officials,
we
can
refine
these.
This
is
our
vision,
our
plan.
T
Next,
the
request
for
proposal
include.
We
ask
that
the
consultant
provide
us
a
number
of
tasks
they're
going
to
have
to
to
market
they're
going
to
work
with
us
on
that
citizen
engagement
part.
There
will
be
numerous
public
meetings.
There
will
be
close
coordination
with
the
with
the
Planning,
Board
and
I've
got
to
tell
you
they're
really
excited
about
this
process.
We
just
met
with
them
on
Monday,
and
out
of
that
comes
suggested
policies
and
strategies.
It's
not
a
document
of
regulations.
T
T
Next
Lord
tun
1,
so
we're
at
that
part
where
we've
been
sort
of
working
in
the
background
to
come
up
with
all
the
parts
that
need
to
move
forward,
so
the
request
itself
doesn't
come
until
part
of
the
budget
process
which
were
in
now,
which
technically
would
not
occur
until
July
1st.
But
at
this
point
we
are
asking
to
let
the
RFP
see
what
we
get
back
and
then
the
most
important
part
on
this
slide
is
to
look
at
the
portions
in
yellow
and
there
will
be
numerous
chances
for
public
input
throughout
this
process.
T
U
Two
questions
one
is
I,
am
excited
about
the
public
engagement
components
of
this
and
was
really
inspired
by
what
we
were
able
to
achieve
through
the
strategic
planning
process.
With
the
number
of
ways
commune
members
could
take
part,
but
also
the
range
of
ways
and
and
hope
that
can
kind
of
be
a
foundation
for.
D
U
U
Maybe
we
can
think
through
at
some
of
our
pre
meetings
or
other
discussions,
some
opportunities
that
might
exist
for
us
to
to
to
address
those
informed
by
what
we're
learning
as
we
move
through
this
process
and
with
an
eye
towards
where
this
process
will
take
us.
So
I
certainly
want
to
respect
this
process,
but
also
know
that
there's
a
lot
in
the
pipeline
right
now
that
that
might
that
we
might
need
to
address
or
boa
or
Planning
Board
might
need
to
be
addressing
between
now
and
then
so.
Q
T
But
at
the
same
time
we
can't
just
look
at
it
from
the
perspective
of
an
overall
urban
approach.
We
have
to
realize
that
we're
a
very
rural
County
still
and
we
had
a
very
good
conversation
with
the
the
National
Forest
Service.
We
talked
about
things
like
ways
to
provide
for
things
that
that
the
residents
will
be
excited
about
the
Forest
Service's
therein,
our
immense
pressure
from
just
they're
so
popular.
Q
A
A
You
know
about
1%
per
year
we're
adding
several
thousand
new
residents
to
our
county
every
year,
which
means
that
over
the
next
you
know,
20
years,
we're
gonna,
probably
add
another
50,000
people
to
our
population.
It's
be
like
dropping
another.
You
know
not
quite
the
size
of
Asheville
but
another.
You
know
group
of
people
almost
in
that
that
neighborhood
into
our
County,
so
I
think
one
of
our
primary
responsibilities
is
about
how
we're
gonna.
A
We
know
we're
going
to
have
growth,
but
we
can
help
shape
it
and
and
that'll
have
a
big
impact
on
whether
we
can
help
keep
the
things
we
really
loved
about
this
place
for
the
future,
as
well
as
address
the
challenges
with
affordable
housing
and
things
like
that
along
the
way.
So
I
think
it's
an
important
conversation
and
focus
I
appreciate
that
heads
up
that
you
know
this
process
is,
is
being
looked
at
and
started.
A
A
A
V
G
When
we
look
at
comprehensive
plan-
and
this
is
going
to
help
us
make
it's
going
to
help
us
kind
of
have
have
the
infrastructure
discussions
and
some
of
the
discussions
that
we
have,
that
that
I
hear
all
the
time-
and
this
is
going
to
allow
us
to
step
Minnis
them-
I
mean
sidewalks-
was
one
of
the
you
know.
It's
a
big
discussion
out
in
the
community,
and
so
that's
going
to
allow
us
to
be
able
to
to
know
what
areas
need
what
service
and
then
how
we
plan
for
those
things
right.
T
I
mean
one
of
the
one
example
is
I
know.
The
metropolitan
sewerage
district
is
is
very
excited
to
work
with
us
on
on
future
planning.
Right
now,
like
the
city
of
Asheville,
other
water
providers,
even
MSD,
they
don't
speculatively,
extend
service
lines,
it's
usually
on
a
per
event
basis
or
development
basis.
They
want
to
become
our
partner.
I.
Think
we've
got
any
number
of
regional.
T
G
Just
want
to
make
sure
we're
we're
connecting
the
dots
whether
those
dots
are
with
weave
reveal
or
they're
with
the
city
of
Asheville
I
was
in
on
Johnston
school
Road,
D
review.
You
know
some
of
those
areas.
You
know
this
past
weekend
and
you
know
I'm
wondering
why
we're
you
know
we're
some
of
these
areas
we're
going
to
have
to
connect
the
dots
with
right
with
with
sidewalks
or
whatever
whatever
it
might
be,
and
you
know
some
of
that
might
be
the
county
might
want
to
do
that.
T
It's
a
very
good
point.
In
fact:
I'm
gonna
just
use
one
example.
If
you
don't
mind
of
Emma
it's
the
legacy
of
the
extraterritorial
jurisdiction,
I
mean
if
you
did
a
project
out
there,
you
weren't
in
the
city
limits,
but
you
had
to
build
the
city
standards.
So
you
might,
you
know,
write
out
new
Leicester
Highway
and
go.
Why
is
there
just
a
section
of
sidewalk
built
there
and
it's
not
connected
to
anything
else
with
the
etj
gone,
we
have
to
really
look
because
you
got
services
like
back
to
Emma.
T
You
got
a
bus
service
running
out.
There.
You've
got
a
small
node.
That
area
might
benefit
from
a
small
area
plan.
Just
like
Swannanoa.
Just
like
handler
I
mean
you've
got
these
small
areas
that
have
so
much
potential
and
it's
right,
you're
right
you're
connecting
the
dots
on
the
legacy
of
something
that
doesn't
exist
anymore
and
whereas
we
continue
to
urbanize,
it's
going
to
be
critical
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we
capture
things
like
that,
so
they
don't
fall
through
the
cracks
yeah.
G
And
yeah
I
mean
you
know
that
I'm
EJ's
gone
right
and
so
the
county
can't
throw
their
hands
up
said.
He
can't
throw
their
hands
up.
We
got,
we
got
to
deal
with
it
and
plan
for
it
and
try
to
connect
the
dots
so
I'm
gonna
I
just
want
to
leave
it
there,
and-
and
hopefully
we
can
get
some
good
information
going
forward
and.
T
N
Thing
I
want
to
mention
is
I,
don't
think.
We've
stressed
enough
and
I
apologize
Nate
about
the
conservation
and
the
farmland
protection
that
this
allows
us
to
dig
in
and
look
at
as
well.
I
mean
I.
Think
we've
continued
to
talk
about
growth
and
development,
because
those
are
really
on
the
forefront
of
our
minds.
N
T
For
a
robust
environmental
component
that
really
you
know,
we've
done
things
in
the
past.
Like
a
you
know,
just
a
few
years
ago,
we
were
conserving
large
swaths
of
both
steep
slope
areas
through
conservation
easements.
We
continue
to
do
it
through
the
land,
conservation,
Advisory
Board
and
the
AG
board,
so
we're
building
out
more
of
that
basis.
More
of
our
areas,
hey.
These
are
really
focus
areas
that
we're
going
to
focus
on
we're
going
to
look
to
and
we're
going
to
commit
to.
S
A
F
Chair
can
I
just
speak
on
board
appointments
just
for
a
second
just
want
to
confirm
the
next
week
on
the
10th
that
we
we
talked
about
the
last
at
the
end
of
last
meeting.
Are
we
going
to
have
the
interviews
for
the
boards
that
we
put
off
during
the
last
meeting?
It
was
I
think
it
was
four
boards
approximately
about
14
individuals,
that
the
board
were
considering
interviews
for
Tuesday.
A
A
You
thank
you
all
right.
We
are
at
public
comment,
so
any
folks
who
wish
to
speak
to
the
board
now
is
your
chance
to
do
so,
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
You'll
get
a
orange
light
when
you
got
30
seconds
left
a
red
light
when
your
time's
up
and
when
you
get
the
red
light.
Please
do
hold
your
comments
there.
We
want
to
give
everyone
the
same
amount
of
time,
so
mr.
Elton
you'd
like
to
go
first.
O
O
That's
why
you
need
comprehensive
principles,
but
each
holler
in
each
valley
is
different,
so
you
can
establish
the
principles
in
the
criteria
and
you
ought
to
be
smiling
for
this
branding
because
it
lets
you
have
flexibility
for
each
site
and
maximize
the
potential
for
the
development
of
that
site.
That's
what
it
does
and
I
would
like
to
make
the
recommendations
that
the
first
thing
you
do
is
establish
definitions,
carrying
capacity.
How
many
of
you
up
there
know
what
carrying
capacity
means.
O
O
So
yeah,
you
need
a
comprehensive
plan,
but
it
needs
to
establish
criteria
because
right
now,
the
state's
looking
at
saying
things
that
can't
be
done
in
counties
and
the
people
already
complaining
saying
you
can't
establish
a
rule
in
Raleigh
that
applies
all
over
the
North
Carolina.
You
can't
and
you
can't
establish
a
rule
here.
That
applies
all
over
Buncombe
County,
because
when
you
implement
that
rule
and
that
principle
on
site
you're
going
to
have
to
change
it
and
adapt
it
to
that
site
using
sound
scientific
principles.
O
S
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
memory
board
Don
is
right
on
it.
Don
and
I
was
here
back
in
1998
when
this
thing
started
anyway,
in
the
order
here,
the
people,
then
one
of
the
big
things
was
that
they
talked
about
the
city
having
the
big
UT.
Oh
you
do
plan,
and
the
thing
is
I
mean
that
book
looks
like
this.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
in
the
county,
commissioner,
just
like
you
bunch
up
there.
All
this
thing
will
happen.
This
thing
gonna
happen
to
us.
We
gonna
do
that.
We
just
got
a
little
bit.
S
They
showed
a
little
pack
of
papers
about
this
big.
You
ever
looked
at
it
lately.
You
know
you
tell
one
line
you
get
more.
This
you
do
thing
is
significant.
Look
what
hits
impact
the
people
in
the
city
what
they
can
do
and
can't
do
you
look
at
the
impact
on
it?
Look
at
the
affordability
of
houses.
Raleigh
is
considering
this
at
Donna.
Talking
about
I
sent
him
the
article.
The
legislators
is
looking
in
the
committee
right
now.
What
I
won't
know?
Are
you
trying
to
get
a
head
of
something?
S
S
Permitting
that's
going
to
be
going
out
once
this
plan
is
brought
to
fruition,
you're
impacting
right
now
the
residents
that
can't
even
afford
to
live
here,
I'm
talking
about
the
local
people,
these
people-
that's
coming
in
here
from
all
these
other
states
and
places
they
can
afford
to
come.
What
you're
doing
with
this
comprehensive
plan
is
going
to
be
exactly
what
you
need
to
talked
about
in
lip
service
anyway,
to
try
to
do
to
afford
housing
for
people.
You
can't
talk
out
of
one
side,
you
Mouse
and
and
do
something
out
of
the
other
side.
S
That's
that's
not
don't
work
good,
it'll
catch
up!
We
and
that's
what's
happening
right
now.
The
1998
plan
that
so
come
into
existence
all
the
things
that
was
said
about
that
is
exactly
what's
happening
now,
who's
profiting
from
this.
It's
a
big
developers
and
people
that
can't
afford
it,
not
the
people
that
need
to
live
all
these
things
that
we're
talking
about
in
development,
we're
talking
about
some
serious
issues
related
to
the
environment.
What
do
we
have
in
all
the
schools?
A
lot
of
schools
built
on
contaminated
places?
S
R
R
A
W
Good
evening
people
I'm
glad
I
came
commissioners,
general
public
and
I
think
I
just
met.
Some
fusion
warriors
in
here
appreciate
your
comments.
As
a
my
name
is
Robert
Hardy
I'm,
president
of
the
Southside
organization,
as
a
remnant,
believer
I
first
have
to
raise
my
right
hand
and
tell
you
I'm
speaking
to
you.
First
I
was
in
psalm
51
that
says
I'm
nothing,
but
a
sinner.
W
It's
a
very
selfish
thing
is
that
I'm
committed
to
warn
you
that
you're
doing
wrong
for
topics
I
want
to
speak
of
number
one
I
found
out
tonight
that
city
and
county
governments
are
delicately
interwoven.
I
attended
a
meeting
at
Kenilworth
Presbyterian
Church
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
question
would
said
that
even
wealthy
people
who
own
their
homes
in
Kilmer's
because
of
the
tax
increases
once
they
start
living
off
of
a
set
income
could
not
afford
to
sustain
their
homes.
I've
talked
to
people
who
are
working
who
live
in
Kenilworth.
W
They
said
once
they
retire.
They'll
have
to
leave
Asher
because
they
can't
afford
to
live
here,
and
the
mayor
put
it
on
the
county,
say
you
guys
are
in
control
of
the
taxes.
They
have
nothing
to
do
with
it.
The
first
step,
if
for
things,
I
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
and
I,
say
that,
because
I
said
it
was
interwove
in',
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
something
that
is
pertinent
to
you,
take
it
if
it's
not
pertinent,
don't
take
it.
W
In
other
words,
if
the
shoe
fits
wear
it
okay
number
one
I'm
against
the
spinning
of
any
more
money
on
the
Civic
Center.
Unless
it
can
be
shown
how
pub
how
the
public
will
profit
I
first
said
benefit,
but
then
I
heard
you
saying
something
about
tourism.
All
that
stirred
a
somebody
may
benefit,
but
will
we
profit
for?
Did
we
profit
when
it
was
United
Cellular
center?
Will
we
profit
some
gentleman
just
got
through
bringing
to
my
attention
that
we
are
a
regional
hold.
A
M
Good
evening,
I'm
dawn
Chavez
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
Asheville
Green
Works
I
also
am
a
member
of
the
urban
forestry
Commission
of
the
city
of
Asheville
and
Greenworks
also
houses
the
tree
protection
task
force
for
the
county
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
Just
want
to
echo
sharing
some
rawls
comments
earlier
about
tree
protection.
We
Asheville
Green
Works
works
throughout
the
county
and
we
get
a
lot
of
calls
about
trees
being
removed
and
not
replaced
and
trees
not
being
protected
and
most
times
just
have
to
say,
I'm.
M
I'd
also
request
that
we
include
in
the
criteria
for
the
RFP
that
the
contractor
had
experience,
working
with
integrating
sustainability
into
plans
and,
of
course,
working
with
communities.
I
think
that
400000
is
not
unreasonable
for
a
plan
of
this
size
and
I
think
it
might
even
need
to
be
more
than
that.
There's
it's
a
it's
a
big
undertaking
to
come
up
with
a
comprehensive
plan
for
our
entire
County,
and
thank
you
for
approving
this
first
step
in
the
process.
All.
A
All
right,
I've
got
a
couple
of
announcements.
The
next
meeting
of
the
Buncombe
County
Commissioners.
We
will
hold
our
pre
meeting
on
March
17th
at
3
p.m.
at
200,
College,
Street,
room
3
to
6
and
then
that
same
day,
at
5
p.m.
the
county
commissioners
will
hold
our
regular
meeting
at
200
College
Street.