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A
B
I'd
like
to
call
the
August
2
2011
meeting
of
the
Buncombe
County
Commissioners
to
order,
and
we
will
begin
with
Pledge
of
Allegiance
if
you'll
join
me.
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God,
indivisible
justice
for
all.
B
C
D
C
Is
it
Jerry
yep
supervisor
for
MSD
died
in
a
tragic
accident
down
on
McDowell
street,
and
what
we
know
about
him
is
that
he
too
loved
the
work
that
he
did
his
wife
Susan
in
his
church,
which
was
fruitland,
Baptist,
Church,
and
so
instead
of
a
formal
prayer
today.
What
I'd
like
for
us
to
do
is
to
honor
these
two
men
with
a
moment
of
silence
in
their
memory.
If
you
will
join
me,
please.
B
B
B
Been
a
motion
by
Vice
Chair
Stanley,
a
second
by
Commissioner
Peterson.
Is
there
any
discussion?
If
not
all
those
in
favor
of
fall,
the
agenda,
as
amended,
say
on
I
I'll
oppose
nope.
We
will
follow
the
agenda.
Our
first
matter
today
is
public
hearing.
We
have
mister
ed,
green
and
mr.
Chad
bandy,
who
will
be
talking
to
us
about
the
Department
of
Transportation
secondary
road
improvement
program
for
2011
2012.
B
E
Cheering
gap
members
of
the
board.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
with
you
today.
My
name
is
edgren
I'm,
the
division
maintenance
engineer
for
division
13
with
highway
department,
which
is
located
here
in
Nashville.
We
thank
you
for
allowing
us
the
opportunity
to
appear
before
you
today.
I
have
some
of
our
staff
with
us
today.
As
you
mentioned
earlier,
Chad
bandy
our
county
engineer
for
baulkham
counties.
Here
he
will
present
the
program.
I
also
have
our
Assistant
District
Engineer
Britt
McCurry,
one
of
our
technicians
from
district
office,
Robert
Briggs.
Here
with
us.
E
As
you
aware,
we
hold
these
public
hearings
every
year
to
be,
in
conformance
with
general
statute.
136
44.8
apartment
transportation
is
presenting
to
the
Balkan
County
Board
of
Commissioners
the
proposed
expenditure
of
the
estimated
secondary
road
construction
funds
for
the
pier
july,
the
first
2011
through
june
thirtieth
2012.
E
You
will
note
in
your
package
that
these
funds
have
continued
to
be
reduced
every
year,
so
we're
still
going
to
construct
the
roads
that
we
can
down
the
program
as
far
as
they
will.
The
funds
will
allows
at
this
time
let
Chad
come
up
and
present
the
program.
We
will
then
answer
any
questions.
The
commissioners
are
the
public
and
then
we
would
request
a
resolution
of
concurrence
for
the
post
program.
Thank
you.
F
You
very
much
this
year's
construction
program
for
our
for
again
for
2011-2012
begins
with
sr
3482
Ferry
Road
sr
1292
brookshire
number
two
sr:
2131
britains
cove;
that's
our
1820
Cole
road
sr,
2120
anderson,
cove
sr,
1630,
snelson
cemetery,
sr,
1817,
morello,
road,
ASR,
2136,
riddle,
road
sr,
2176,
houston
road
and
sr
3228
fox
branch
road,
and
that
is
our
priority
list
for
this
year.
And
then
we
have
a
backup
list.
If
we
do
exceed
those.
D
F
C
F
Would
still
be
at
approximately
if
we
were
able
to
acquire
and
build
all
of
these,
we
would
still
be
near
80
miles
in
buncombe,
county
of
unpaved
roads
and
those
majority
of
those
roads
would
be
on
the.
What
we
have
is
right
away,
unavailable
list
ones
that
have
came
up
on
previous
year's
programs
and
that
we
were
unable
to
require
the
right
away.
Some.
B
F
B
F
You
can
add
it
to
the
list
drop,
it
would
be
if
they
were
able
to
add
that
to
our
system
signed
a
ride
away.
Add
it
to
our
system
following
those
policies.
It
would
then
go
on
our
program
which
we
prioritize
these
every
four
years.
Several
different
things
house
count
school
bus
routes,
a
lot
of
different
things,
go
into
that
score
and
they
would
be
put
into
that
prioritization
and
then
they
would
land
wherever
their
score
puts.
Then
at
that
point,
man.
A
F
A
E
Sir
mr.
green,
you
were
talking
about
on
road
additions
and
new
roads.
If,
if
it's
a
new
subdivision
or
Road,
that's
built
since
1975,
in
order
for
us
to
added
to
the
system,
it
will
have
to
be
paved
now.
There
are
some
policies
for
old
subdivisions
that
were
developed
prior
to
nineteen.
Seventy
five.
If
they
meet
certain
criteria,
we
can't
add
those
as
unpaved
roads
and
then
they
will
go
into
the
priority
mix,
but.
B
G
E
F
You
a
list
of
roads
that
we
are
planning
on,
paving
that
were
typically
what
we
would
do
on
the
previous
year's
program.
We
would
build
them
that
summer
typically
and
then
look
at
paving
those
this
year,
just
that's
a
sort
of
been
our
typical
motive
operating
with
those
and
get
a
better
product
in
the
long
run
and
the
roads.
F
F
A
H
H
H
Well,
they
did
some
portion
at
some
time,
but
my
concern
is
this:
if
far,
if
the
delegation
could
look
at
the
way
that
this
is
being
presented
to
the
County
Commission
and
maybe
saved
some
taxpayer
money
by
having
to
come
every
year
and
present
this
in
a
formal
session
that
it
could
be
presented
in
a
different
way
to
the
taxpayers
that
they
still
get
the
same
benefit,
I
think
it'd
be
a
useful
way
of
saving
some
money,
and
the
delegation
I
think,
could
look
at
the
laws
and
change
them.
A
little
bit.
H
D
Right
because
one
of
our
probably
is
this-
is
the
law
most
of
us
all
of
us
took
an
oath
up
over
the
Constitution
North
Carolina.
This
is
a
law.
It
will
be
done
right.
Gentlemen,
there's
no
question
about
that.
I,
don't
know
what
politics
you're
talking
about.
They
hadn't
paid
my
driveway
in
23
years.
D
I
B
H
B
J
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
of
the
board,
Richard
kubecka,
has
applied
to
rezone
two
lots:
tax
lot:
number
96,
993,
177
44
and
nine
699
41
to
3
17,
located
at
596
and
606
old
US,
highway
70
from
our
three
residential
to
NS
neighborhood
service
districts,
the
two
lots
total
5.23
acres
and
are
located
on
the
south
side
of
old
us
70
and
their
west
of
the
intersection
of
kavalier
lane
and
old
us
70.
The
Western
lot
is
owned
by
mr.
qubeka
and
it
contains
a
commercial
structure
with
an
existing
non-conforming
business.
J
J
J
The
surrounding
area
is
comprised
of
residential
uses
and
various
commercial
and
industrial
uses.
The
property
is
adjacent
to
neighborhood
service,
to
the
east
of
it
commercial
services,
on
the
south
of
the
property
and
there's
residential
zoning
to
the
north
and
west
of
the
subject
property.
The
requested
zoning
is
consistent
with
the
Buncombe
County
Land
Use
Plan
Update,
as
the
update
indicates
that
NS
is
designed
to
allow
for
a
mix
of
residential
commercial
business
and
service
uses
in
limited
areas
at
key
intersections
leading
to
residential
neighborhoods.
J
The
requested
zoning
would
be
consistent
with
the
developing
commercial
area.
Along
this
section
of
old
us
70
in
the
planning
department
has
recommended
approval
of
the
request.
The
Planning
Board
held
a
public
hearing
on
the
application,
June
twentieth.
The
board
received
one
letter
which
had
seven
names
that
was
against
the
rezoning.
The
letter
cited
noise
dust
and
negative
impact
on
the
neighborhood
as
reasons
that
they
were
against
the
rezoning.
G
J
G
G
J
J
G
B
B
K
Those
are
the
projects
that
we
would
typically
fund
in
our
capital
outlay
process,
we've
used
of
five
years
as
the
threshold
for
a
project
that
it
makes
sense
to
spend
funds
on
to
recoup
that
money.
This
project
is,
has
immediate
pay
back.
There
is
no
out-of-pocket
money
in
the
arrangement
that
the
board
will
consider
in
their
September
board,
meeting
I
needed
to
come
to
you,
because
the
rooftop
lease
that
the
board
will
consider
is
more
than
10
years.
A
lease
that
is
more
than
10
years
needs
to
be
treated
like
sale
of
property.
K
The
least
that
would
be
considered
would
be
for
20
years.
The
sale
of
property
process
involves
advertisement.
It
involves
an
RFP
that
goes
to
the
public
and
you
receive
responses,
and
it
includes
what
we
would
do
in
the
sale
of
property
if
property
was
declared
surplus
by
the
board,
we'd
bring
it
to
you
and
give
the
county
commissioners
an
option
to
purchase
it
or
or
take
it
for
the
county's
used.
K
So
with
that
I'll
describe
as
best
I
can,
because
it's
fairly
complicated,
it's
been
scrutinized
by
our
board
attorney,
but
the
arrangement
if
the
Board
of
Education
chooses
to
enter.
It
is
something
like
this.
A
developer
foots
the
bill
for
installing
solar
rooftop
equipment.
It
would,
in
this
case,
involve
both
PV,
which
is
electric
producing
and
solar
thermal,
which
is
hot
water.
K
They
don't
have
to
produce
it
if
the,
if
any
producer
in
this
room
sells
it
back
to
them
as
long
as
it's
properly
documented,
they
can
use
that
as
evidence
that
they
do
have
they've
met
their
their
goals
that
are
required
to
so
in
terms
of
the
the
electricity
that
electricity
will
not
be
directly
used
a
tanka
high
school.
The
solar
thermal
output,
however,
would
be
that
solar
thermal
that
hot
water
would
be
pumped
right
into
our
boilers
would
be
measured.
K
They
also
risk
that
developer
for
his
investment
receives
rec
payment
from
progress,
energy
and
buncombe
county
schools
will
agree
to
purchase
the
solar
power.
The
solar
thermal
power
that
produced
the
hot
water
at
a
lower
cost
than
what
we
would
pay
natural
gas
to
produce
that
so
we've
studied
our
use
of
solar
hot
water
through
the
year
and
through
you
know
several
years,
and
we
have
a
schedule
of
what
we
would
be
willing
to
pay
them
the
amount
of
solar,
hot
water
that
we
would
pay
them
on
a
month-by-month
basis
if
they
properly
produce
it.
K
The
solar
developer
is
required
to
maintain
the
system
and,
in
fact,
they're
motivated
to
maintain
the
system,
because,
if
they're
not
producing
power,
guess
what
they're
not
getting
paid
by
progress,
energy
for
the
power
or
the
Rex
and
they're
not
getting
paid
by
Buncombe
County
Schools
for
that
solar
thermal
output.
So
there's
a
good
confidence
that
this
system
is
going
to
be
operating.
Now
the
the
Buncombe
County
Schools
receives
a
lease
payment
for
use
of
that
rooftop.
Basically,
and
that's
the
sale
of
property.
Why
I'm
here,
Buncombe
County
Schools
would
receive
a
lease
payment.
K
In
addition,
we
would
have
predictable
and
lower
than
the
normal
cost
for
this
solar
thermal
output.
So
those
are
the
two
immediate
benefits
that
Buncombe
County
Schools
would
receive,
in
addition
to
educational
opportunities
for
the
students,
because
this
monitoring
system
is
available
on
the
internet.
It's
a
requirement
of
our
lease
that
our
folks,
our
teachers,
can
bring
into
curriculum.
Students
can
look
at
the
output
in
real
time
and
over
time
of
the
the
solar
equipment
up
there.
So
that's
a
you
know,
not
a
dollar
amount
that
you
can
put
on
that.
K
The
real
benefit
of
this
would
come
after
year,
number
six
on
come,
County
Schools
would
have
the
option
of
purchasing
this
equipment
at
fair
market
value
and
at
after
that
time,
Buncombe
County
Schools
would
receive
all
those
benefits
of
electric
power
production
racks
that
have
already
been
pre-negotiated.
Welcome,
County
Schools
would
basically
take
over
that
pre-negotiate
contract
and
and
receive
the
full
benefits
of
the
solar
thermal
output.
We
expect
the
the
warranted
lifetime
of
these
systems
are
20
years,
so
that
corresponds
with
the
lease.
K
However,
the
you
know
when
your
car
is
out
of
warranty,
you
don't
throw
it
away
right.
It
still
has
a
good
operating
life.
We
expect
the
system
to
easily
last
30
years.
It
does
have
reduced
output.
You
know
every
year,
there's
a
half
of
one
percent
that
you
lose.
So
we
understand
what
that
is,
that's
where
the
real
benefit
would
be
for
Buncombe
County
Schools
is
year
six
through
30
and
we're
right
now
evaluating
proposals
and
developing
a
schedule
for
return
on
investment.
K
If
you
will
we're
plugging
in
that
cost,
the
maintenance
costs
are
built
into
this.
We
can
take
over
at
year
six
the
defined
maintenance
contract
plug
that
into
our
cash
flow,
so
that
the
Board
of
Education
can
understand
the
the
real
benefits
in
a
nutshell,
it's
kind
of
complicated
I
covered
a
lot
of
ground,
but
that's
the
nature
of
the
arrangement.
It
is
not
a
direct
solar
purchase
like
you've
seen
those
paybacks
we've
seen
are
just
too
long.
It's
too
big
upfront
investment
with
a
return
that
is
from
10
to
20
years.
A
B
B
K
Really
the
key
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
the
cash
flow
that
they
receive
from
progress
energy
and
from
us
for
the
solar
thermal
doesn't
really
make
it
work.
It.
The
tax
credits
that
our
federal
state
and
there's
a
accelerated
depreciation
tax
credit
for
any
type
of
capital
improvement
that
a
business
makes
that
that
sunsets,
but
they
can
take
advantage
of
that.
And
if.
K
B
States,
not
California
Arizona
Florida,
some
of
these
other
ones
so
hi.
This
is
great
I'm.
Just
so
glad
you're
doing
this
I
think
we
can
learn
from
you.
This
is
something
that
we
we're
working
on
we're
doing,
and
mr.
crane
can
tell
us
and
Brad
Ellington
can
tell
us
about
what
we're
doing
on
our
side.
But
I
just
I
salute
you.
Smart
smart
program
costs,
nothing,
you
get,
you
get
a
benefit,
it's
a
triple
win
so.
K
I
will
tell
you
that
enka
high
school
was
selected
because
we
have
a
28
year
old
mechanical
system.
In
there
it's
going
to
eventually
need
to
be
replaced,
so
we're
studying
what
we
can
do
to
make
that
school
more
efficient
when
we
put
a
new
system
in
there.
The
new
codes
that
are
out
there
that
require
a
lot
of
fresh
air
in
well,
actually,
even
with
more
efficient
equipment,
will
increase
the
operating
costs
of
that
school.
That
was
the
initial
motivation.
K
How
can
we,
you
know,
spend
money
to
put
new
equipment
in
and
update
the
school?
Now
we've
got
higher
energy
bills,
so
this
is
a
way
that
that
can
offset
that
we
are
also
in
the
process
of
reroofing
those
28
year
old
groups,
so
we'll
have
real
fresh
ruse
to
accept
30-year
equipment.
So
that's
something
to
consider
when
you're
looking
for
a
site,
you
don't
want
to
put
30-year
equipment
on
a
10
year.
Old
roof
doesn't
make
sense.
Ok,.
K
Encouraged
in
our
RFP
process,
which
was
open
to
the
public,
we
had
22
responses,
we
had
a
pre-bid
meeting,
some
were
local,
some
were
regional
and
we
got
a
variety
of
responses
and
we're
evaluating
them
will
bring
them
to
the
board
and
and
see
what
the
board
thinks
which
what
makes
sense
for
them.
Great.
K
K
D
B
It
all
those
in
favor
say
on
I
all
pose
nope.
Thank
you
again.
Thanks
for
thinking
out
of
the
box
and
looking
ahead.
Next,
we
have
the
county
manager's
report
I,
see
mr.
John
Creighton,
making
his
way.
If
you
can
mention
our
solar
I
think
we
have
a
project
over
there.
They
want
to
mention.
We've
got.
I
A
project
that's
in
the
process
of
happening
on
this
building
here,
on
the
other
end
its
kind
of
same
kind
of
concept,
we're
okay,
we're
replacing
the
system
now's
the
time
to
take
a
look
and
see
what
kind
of
improvements
and
we're
putting
solar
panels.
On
the
end
of
this
build
an
all
pork
building
to
help
us
with
the
heating
and
and
the
water,
so
heating.
I
G
I
Our
plans
are
as
soon
as
you
know.
Obviously,
the
the
jail
across
the
street
is
16
years
old.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
long
before
it's
going
to
need
a
new
roof
and
figure
every
20
years.
You
can
pretty
much
plan
on
it.
I
have
a
system
over
there.
That's
20
years
old
and
we're
in
the
process
is
starting
to
look
at
that
that
down
the
road.
Then
we'll
do
those
kind
of
upgrades
over
there.
Any.
I
I
County
manager
asked
me
tonight
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
sprinkler
systems
what
the
county
has
and
their
buildings.
In
light
of
the
fire
that
we
had
last
week,
an
office
complex
down
a
bit
more
Avenue
County
has
about
60
buildings,
and
when
you
look
at
them,
they
range
everything
from
two
hundred
twenty
thousand
square
feet
to
the
courthouse
down
to
about
480
square
feet,
for
a
barn
that
we
house
horses
out
in
swannanoa.
So
we
have
a
large
range
of
buildings
and
for
the
most
part,
our
buildings
are
under
10,000
square
feet.
I
When
you
look
at
branch,
libraries
buildings
are
associated
with
pools.
Community
buildings
ball
field
buildings,
where
we
do
concession
stands
and
stuff
like
that.
A
large
part
of
those
buildings
are
small
buildings.
But
when
you
look
at
the
larger
buildings
that
we've
got
being
the
administration
building
where
the
county
manager
is
at
205,
College
Street
at
200,
College
Street,
that's
across
the
street,
the
dss
build
and
35
woodford
Street
that
used
to
be
the
health
department.
I
Those
are
large
buildings
and,
over
the
last
really
last
two
or
three
years,
we've
moved
to
start
sprinkling
those
buildings,
but
we
did
pack
library
and
finish
those
renovations.
Last
year
we
sprinkled
that
building
at
that
time,
when
we
upgraded
35
woodfin
from
health
department
to
move
in
taxes
and
and
the
register
of
deeds,
we
sprinkled
that
building
right
now
we're
in
the
process
of
upgrading
and
doing
the
sprinkler
system
at
DSS
building.
I
So
when
we
did
the
admin
building
where
the
county
manager
is,
and
that
was
probably
eight
or
nine
years
ago,
we
sprinkled
that
building
at
that
time.
So
really
in
there
in
the
recent
history,
we've
moved
to
two
sprinkled
our
large
buildings.
Naturally,
the
detention
facility
is
sprinkled,
sprinkled,
building
and
I.
Guess
the
real
poster
child
here
is
the
courthouse.
I
mean
right
now
we're
in
the
process
of
building
the
life
safety
Tower
and
back
in
the
early
90s.
I
Basically,
the
chief
jail
inspector
met
with
dr.
Rainey
and
said
you
know,
you're
going
to
move
the
jailers
at
the
jail
out
of
the
top
of
the
courthouse
and
building
new
detention
facility,
and
that
was
in
the
early
90s.
Then
the
big
concern
was
it
wasn't
sprinkled,
but
they
basically
we
did
not
have
two
means
of
egress.
We
only
had
one
real
fire
escape
that
went
from
top
to
bottom.
I
It
was
a
set
of
winders
being
winders
are
if
you
took
a
ribbon
off
of
a
roll
and
just
held
it
up
because
it
spirals
down
and
that's
the
type
of
fire
escape
that
we
got
it
goes
to
the
basement,
but
then
it
doesn't
empty
outside
you've
got
to
go
about
50
feet
to
wander
around
of
the
garage
to
find
your
way
out.
So
our
main
objective
first
is
get
those
means
of
egress
into
that
building
from
the
top
of
the
bottom
and
that's
a
process.
I
Building
the
structure
up
the
life
safety
tower
we're
putting
the
means
in
to
sprinkle
that
whole
floor
and
and
sprinkling
that
whole
area
and
what
our
plans
are
is
that
will
go
through.
The
second
phase
will
build
the
courts
addition.
The
third
phase
were
going
to
come
back
and
sprinkle
the
rest
of
the
building,
so
we'll
have
a
building
that
was
built
over
80
years
ago.
That
will
basically
bring
up
to
fire
safety
code
and
what
happened?
I
So
you
see
a
lot
of
those
buildings
and
it
you
know
obviously
we're
concerned
about
the
citizens,
our
employees,
that
work
at
DSS
and
and
the
Health
Department
of
Health
Department
building
and
things
like
that,
and
we
get
it.
We
get
a
discount
on
our
on
their
insurance,
so
it
just
makes
sense
all
the
way
around
to
bring
these
up
to
code
and
to
go
step
further
and
put
in
sprinkler
systems,
and
that's
what
we've
done
so.
I
I
C
I
Not
that
many,
because
they're,
not
very
large
I
mean
we
have.
We
may
have
exterior
standpipes
that
okay,
you
can
do
that
that
FFC
connection
right
there
FCC
connection,
but
you
know
they're.
Basically
one
story:
now
those
that
have
been
built
recently
that
connections
right
there
for
the
fire
department
to
connect
on
and
to
fight
the
fire
out
under.
I
There
looked
at
on
a
yearly
basis,
so
you
know
if
there's
not
the
building,
sprinkled,
there's
a
way
to
connect
to
hose
to
it
and
fight
fight,
a
fire
and
yeah
and
we've.
You
know,
as
all
of
you
know,
over
the
last
10
15
years,
we've
done.
Oh,
you
know:
we've
built
a
lot
of
facilities
in
in
the
county.
L
Good
mr.
chairman
and
commissioners
Oh
what
I
wanted
to
say
something
about
secondary
roads
to
start
with
I
hope.
We
see
them
here
every
year
for
a
lot
of
years
to
come.
Beauty
that
is
on
the
agenda
for
short
session
to
give
secondary
roads
to
counties
would
be
an
unbelievable
expense
for
us.
But
we
will
hear
about
that
in
short
session,
so
I
for
one
hope
to
see
them
back
every
year
for
a
lot
of.
L
Going
to
give
you
an
update
on
cts,
we
have
made
some
progress
since
we
were
here
last
week,
we've
completed
the
asbestos
assessment
on
the
building,
we're
getting
a
second
bid
on
the
building
to
demolish
it.
Billy
Clark
is
the
attorney
for
Mills
gap
Association
and
one
of
the
things
that
did
surprise
us
a
little
bit
this
week
is.
We
are
having
to
get
a
consent
from
dim
for
demolition
from
CTS
because
they
carry
the
promissory
note
for
Mills
gap.
L
B
Thank
you
next
order
of
business
is
our
compassionate
tax.
Collector
Gary
Roberts
will
give
us
an
annual
tax
settlement
report
in
order
to
collect
and
thank
you
for
your
good
work,
we're
always
among
the
highest
in
the
state
and
probably
in
the
country
and
tax
collection
rate,
which
means
everybody
has
to
pay
less.
So.
Thank
you.
Well,.
M
Thank
you,
mr.
chairman
and
other
commissioners.
I
am
here
tonight
to
request
action
on
three
items.
First,
is
to
give
you
a
tax
settlement,
how
we
have
done
this
last
for
this
last
year's
collections
also
on
to
get
charged
with
the
tax
bills
for
2011
we've
got
those
ready
and
hopefully
will
be
mailing
them
next
week,
once
we
get
to
charge
and.
M
Have
a
presentation
now
I'd
like
to
go
through
and
show
you
our
collection
rates,
I'm
proud
to
tell
you
our
collection.
This
year
was
98
67.
You
can
see
our
regular
levy,
which
is
about
ninety
percent
real
estate.
We
had
98
99
percent
and
in
motor
vehicles,
which
is
12
monthly
levies,
beginning
in
July.
Those
collections
are
somewhere
around
98
to
the
last
couple
of
months
or
about
70
to
75
percent,
but
overall
it's
93%
collection,
which
is
very
good
in
world
tax
collections.
So
overall
98
67
right.
M
How
do
we
compared
to
prior
years,
I
think
it's
important
for
you
to
look
at
that
and
kind
of
see
from
2004
to
present
kind
of
carried
a
consistent
collection
rate.
We
did
have
some
extremely
good
years
in
two
thousand
six
and
seven
and
I
think:
will
progress
back
to
that
level,
but
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
that
we
were
ahead
of
last
year
and
all
of
our
years
been
pretty
consistent
at
a
higher
low.
M
Our
state
average
you
can
see
97
of
17
were
percent
and
a
half
above
that
this
one
I
need
to
labor
over
a
little
bit
with
you.
This
is
probably
the
most
important
slide
of
all
of
them
for
me
to
discuss
with
you.
The
total
levy
that
you
charge
me
with
last
year
was
153
million.
Of
that
you
can
see
the
collections.
The
regular
levy
was
a
143
million.
Vehicle
collections
were
7.6
million.
You
can
see.
The
amount
outstanding
is
two
million
dollars
of
that.
M
Just
to
give
you
a
quick
break
down
on
that,
since
June
we
have
collected
425,000
of
that,
leaving
about
a
million
six
of
the
million
six
amount
that
is
to
roughly
200,000
is
in
bankruptcy.
Bankruptcy
has
been
very
good
this
year
with
much
less
amounts.
I.
Think
a
lot
of
things
are
getting
through
bankruptcy,
lot
more
accounts
in
bankruptcy,
but
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
you
know
good
collections
in
that
area,
payment
agreements
we
still
have
about
a
hundred
and
twenty-five
thousand
dollars
that
are
coming
in
what
to
do
and
in
legal
actions.
M
This
is
where
we're
doing
force
collections.
We've
taken
action
on
around
700,000,
so
we're
still
working
closely
on
about
a
half.
A
million
dollars
is
still
out
there
prior
year
collections,
though,
that
we
collected
from
some
of
the
accounts
of
still
outstanding
from
last
year
and
years
before
2.8
million.
So
we
had
very
good
in
the
area
of
dollars
coming
in.
M
How
do
we
compared
to
other
counties
of
like
sighs,
I?
Think
it's
always
good
to
look
at
a
slide
like
this.
These
are
the
totals
of
jun
30
for
this
year:
durham,
county
and
new
hannah,
or
just
a
little
little
bit
above
us.
But
you
know
I
think,
in
these
you
have
to
look
at
the
economies
I.
The
thing
I
get
great
credit
to
you.
Guys
is
the
way
you
allow
us
to
collect,
I
think
we're
very
professional.
We
do
try
to
be
very
compassionate
to
our
citizens.
M
This
slide
here
shows
other
jurisdictions
we
collect
for
the
city
of
Asheville,
like
mountain
woodfin,
and
please
say
that
wood
fence
taxes
this
year
are
up
about
six
percent
from
what
we
had
last
year,
great
effort
there
biltmore
forest,
and
we
reveal
we
only
collect
the
vehicles,
they
collect
their
own
real
estate
and
you
can
see
their
collections
were
broken
up.
This
a
little
bit
different.
The
fire
districts,
there's
23
districts
and
we
average
those
together
very
consistent
with
last
year,
and
then
city
schools
see
so
very
good
collection
rates
for
all
of
those.
M
This
year,
I
think
it's
important
to
look
at
highlights
of
things
that
you're
trying
to
achieve
and
goals
you
want
to
set
collection
methods.
No
doubt
is
probably
the
biggest
thing
for
us.
This
year,
we've
seen
a
lot
of
areas
that
has
caused
some
I
guess
for
us
issues
from
like
bankruptcies,
bank
foreclosures
unemployment.
M
There's
a
lot
of
issues
that
we've
tried
to
work
through
so
coming
up
with
collection
methods
to
help
citizens
fit
their
budget
where
they
can
pay
us,
we've
had
more
payment
plans
and
we've
probably
ever
had
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
so
I
think
we've
done
a
big
effort
there
to
help
to
get
our
collections
in
cross-training
in
our
budget
this
year.
No
doubt
we
cut
some
staff.
I.
Think
cross-training
allowed
us
to
do
that
in
a
very
professional
way
that
the
citizens
will
get
better
service
will
be
more
efficient.
M
We
have
staff
now
that
are
when
you
have
specialized
type
duties
that
they
do.
We
have
more
people,
knowing
that,
so
it
makes
it
our
office
much
more
professional
and
better
run
improvement
in
the
area
of
mobile
homes,
mobile
homes.
You
probably
heard
me
discuss
in
the
past.
This
is
something
where
citizens
list
those
on
an
honor
system,
so
there's
something
we
may
not
get
or
get
correctly
or
with
the
right
owner.
Believe
it
or
not.
So
we
have
had
some
staff
going
out
in
the
field.
M
We
do
create
a
property
record
card
today
on
a
mobile
home
as
though
we
would,
a
piece
of
real
estate
will
actually
take
a
photo
of
it
will
draw.
The
terroristic,
saw
the
property
and
put
a
grade
in
condition
level
on
the
mobile
home,
so
we
can
better
value
it
as
we
go
forward.
So
it
gives
us
better
information
when
you
guys
are
seeking
information
to
for
manufactured
homes.
New
software,
we
have
been
working
very
well,
a
third
new
software.
It's
coming
along
I
think
very
well
not
to
say
that
it's
not
without
problems.
M
A
new
software
is
web-based
and
we're
on
an
old
mainframe.
So
you're
definitely
going
to
find
some
issues
there
and
getting
your
data
cleaned
up
to
convert
it
over.
But
we
found
a
lot
of
good
things
in
this
process,
hopefully
on.
We
will
bring
that
on
I'm,
hoping
maybe
around
May
or
June
of
2012
as
our
goal,
so
we're
pretty
much
on
schedule
there.
M
G
M
A
M
We
can
do
like
a
draft
account
right
out
of
their
checking
account
where
they
don't
have
to
write
us
a
check,
but
I
think
the
important
thing
is
to
have
them
to
contact
us.
Let's
make
sure
the
tax
bill
is
correct.
If
there's
any
other
bills,
it
might
go
along
with
it
that
are
not
all
patched
together
and
then
come
up
with
an
appropriate
payment
plan
that
fits
their
budget
great.
B
H
M
The
in
solvents
is
a
term
for
uncollectible
tax
bills.
It's
what
that
is.
I
gave
you
two
lists
and
logic
behind
a
to
list
is
because
of
how
the
state
legislation
is
written.
Motor
vehicles.
You
can
take
out
take
off
the
system
bills
that
are
uncollectible
after
a
one-year
period
on
personal
property,
where
I
showed
two
levies,
the
motor
vehicle
and
the
regular
levy
on
the
regular
levy.
You
can
take
off
personal
property
bills,
five
years
and
older,
so
you
have
two
different
age
limits
of
tax
bills
that
I've
presented
to
you.
M
The
motor
vehicle
bills
are
twelve
thousand
four
hundred
and
nine
dollars
and
seventy
nine
cents
and
then
the
personal
property
bills.
There's
more
of
those
and
some
of
those
are
cleaning
up
to
get
ready
for
our
new
software.
Most
of
the
bills
when
you
look
on
here,
are
from
2001
and
I've
put
a
lot
of
notes
on
there.
I'll
give
you
the
total
in
that
first,
it's
280,
1739,
dot,
99
cents.
Most
of
the
reasons
behind
that
is
where
they've
gone
through
bankruptcy.
M
N
B
O
B
M
B
P
You
chairman
Ganton
commissioners,
I,
am
the
chair
of
the
Beckham
County
Community
Child
Protection
Team
child
fatality
review
team.
This
team
was
established
in
1991
by
General,
Statutes,
7b,
1406
and
part
of
that
statute
requires
that
we
present
an
annual
report
to
the
commissioners.
This
team
is
comprised
of
21
representatives
from
17
child
community
service
systems.
We
are
charged
with
reviewing
all
fatalities
in
the
county
for
the
previous
year,
as
well
as
reviewing
current
I've,
been
Child,
Protective,
Services
cases
to
identify
systems,
issues
and
offer
suggestions
for
solutions.
P
Since
I
came
to
you
last
August,
we've
reviewed
a
total
of
fifteen
fatalities
for
Beckham,
counting
seven
of
those
were
dt
prematurity.
Our
birth
defects,
one
was
for
SIDS
or
sudden
infant
death
syndrome
when
a
cause
of
death
could
not
be
determined.
One
with
suicide,
three
met
her
vehicle
accidents
and
two
due
to
illness,
specifically
cancer,
and
some
of
the
issues
that
we
identified
in
review.
You
mean
both
the
fatalities
and
cases
were
obviously
a
continued
need
for
education
for
parents
on
safe
sleeping
for
their
children,
co-sleeping
and
the
one
undetermined
case.
P
The
child
was
found
on
the
bed
on
a
pillow
facedown
and
so
that
that
still
a
cause
for
concern
I
brought
that
last
year
and
it
continues
to
be
an
issue.
The
SIDS
case,
the
child
was
also
found
and
propped
on
a
pillow.
So
I
think
that
is
an
ongoing
issue
for
our
community
and
a
new
issue
that
we've
really
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
this
year
is
the
issue
of
convicted
sex
offenders
in
our
community
and
their
release
orders
when
they
released
from
prison.
P
About
best
stops.
We
had
a
fatality
that
we
reviewed
around
a
young
child
that
was
hit
crossing
a
road
to
get
to
a
bus
stop
and
because
there
was
on
a
cross,
walk
there
and
ongoing
community
concerned
around
child
on
child
sexual
acting
out
where
children
are
actually
abusing
other
children
sexually
and
where
D
parents
and
caretakers
go
for
help.
With
that
situation.
Some
of
the
strategies
and
activities
that
the
team
is
used
to
address
these
and
other
issues.
P
We
sponsored
a
table
at
the
paws
for
kids
event
in
April
and
honor
of
child
abuse
prevention
month,
and
we
handed
out
positive
parenting,
information
and
information
on
how
to
make
a
child
protective
services.
Report
and
I
continue
to
sit
on
the
advisory
group
for
the
partnership
for
substance-free
students
in
vacuum.
P
We
had
a
presentation
from
Beckham
County
Schools
on
bullying
in
schools,
the
one
suicide
there
was
an
element
of
bullying
that
had
occurred
and,
of
course,
that's
been
in
the
national
media
as
well,
and
the
school
system
has
a
really
good
program
on
that
and
they
came
and
educated
our
team
about
that.
I
met
as
the
chair
with
officials
from
the
city
to
discuss
the
best
routes
and
the
issues
were
in
the
crosswalk
and
then
on.
Sep
tember
12th,
which
is
upcoming.
P
Our
team
is
sponsoring
a
community
forum
on
child
on
child
sexual
abuse
and
acting
out
to
try
to
pull
together
a
community
response,
so
we
can
offer
more
referrals
and
resources
for
parents
and
caretakers
in
that
situation,
and
finally,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
your
attention
to
this
topic
that
isn't
pleasant
to
talk
about,
and
to
quote
one
of
my
favorite
authors,
dr.
Seuss,
unless
someone
like
you
cares
a
whole
awful
lot,
nothing
is
going
to
get
better.
It's
not
so.
B
A
G
P
They
have
a
specific
component
about
that,
and
I
was
really
impressed
with
the
presentation
and
what
they're
doing
in
the
county
school
systems.
We
actually
identified
it
as
an
issue
we're
going
to
take
it
on
as
a
team
and
then
had
the
school
system
come
talk
about
what
they're
doing,
because
we
want.
We
don't
want
to
duplicate.
You
know
efforts
in
the
community.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
D
B
H
D
B
A
G
G
B
Other
nominations
all
those
in
favor,
four
of
those
mr.
want
a
campy,
wampler
and
Joseph
Carvey,
say
on
I
all
opposed.
No
thank
you
and
I
think
that
is
good
if
you
could
just
just
put
it
on
there.
Whatever
their
attendance
is
I
agree,
it's
a
wonderful
thing
to
know:
Tourism
Development
Authority,
one
more.
C
B
C
B
A
good
night
all
right
announcements,
next
meeting
of
our
board
will
be
August
16
2011
at
four
thirty
members
of
our
board
will
attend
the
highway
of
heroes
ceremony
on
Friday
August
twelfth
at
ten
a.m.
at
twenty
patent.
Cove
Road
in
swannanoa
and
Commissioner
meetings
can
be
seen
on
charter,
cable,
2
or
live
during
the
meeting
live
online.
That's
relatively
new
I.
When
do
we
start
doing
them.
Q
B
N
B
B
R
R
Already
past,
but
the
comment
I
have
is
that
you
had
mentioned
how
the
tax
credits
and
the
depreciation
tables
for
the
equipment
made.
This
project
are
made,
made
it
appropriate
for
this
company
or
worthwhile
for
the
company
to
put
to
install
this
when
anka
after
six
years
goes
and
buys
this
tour
market
value,
that's
not
going
I
mean.
Are
they
I
guess?
My
question
is
I'm
concerned
that
they're
going
to
be
paying
a
high
price?
R
You
know
they
don't
have
access
to
those
credits,
I
guess
and
is
there
going
to
be
another
review
before
the
board,
looking
at
the
numbers
and
the
pay
back?
What
if
the
system
doesn't
produce
the
amount
of
energy
they
thought
it
was,
it
would
do
I
guess.
My
question
is:
has
anybody
thought
through
that
and
how
is
that
structure.
G
We
could
probably
get
that
answer
for
you.
I
I'll
just
go
off
book
here
in
fear
and
trembling,
but
the
establishment,
where
I
work
have
incurred
a
similar
solar
system
with
the
same
type
of
purchase
agreement,
and
we
have
ours,
monitored
monthly
to
see
make
sure
it's
functioning.
So
there
is
that
ongoing
accountability
of
the
functionality
and
when
it
comes
time
for
us
to
decide
if
we
want
to
buy
it
or
not,
there
is
a
table
that
it
would
cost
a
lot
less
at
the
time.
A
B
Don't
think
they
have
to
come
with
us
for
specific
purchases,
but
I
will,
if
you'll
leave
your
name
and
address
I'll.
Have
the
chairman
of
the
school
board
or
representative
of
the
superintendent
call
you
and
give
you
the
details,
we're
really
not
in
that
one.
But
the
concept
is
it's
a
lot
lower
price
when
they,
if
and
when
they
choose
to
buy
it,
they
don't
have
to
ever
buy
it.
If
it's.
R
B
No
me
I
am
through
with
those
kind
of
contracts
and
it
is
an
option
and
I'm
sure
this
one
is
but
I'd
like
you
to
hear
from
the
horse's
mouth
so
to
speak.
So
if
you
leave
your
name
and
address
I'll,
have
I
have
them
send
information,
maybe
the
contract,
to
you
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
good
questions.
Any
other
public
comment
tonight,
ms
Landis.
Q
Q
It
says
In
God,
We
Trust
and
we
in
the
United
States
have
a
First
Amendment,
which
says
that
we
can
practice
any
religion
that
we
want
and
a
lot
of
us
question
and
damn
others
because
of
that
God
that
we
choose
to
take
not
understanding
that
God
in
good,
orderly,
direct
Direction
is
how
we
should
be
treating
the
dollar
and
not
the
love
of
money
is
the
root
of
all
evil.
For
when
people
look
at
money,
things
are
done
to
other
people
and
they
don't
take
their
actions
into
consideration.
When
I
was
young.
Q
My
mom
said
that
if
I
was
rich
or
if
I
was
so
smart,
why
wasn't
I
rich
and
I
found
that
wealth
is
not
monetary,
when
I
invented
glow
in
the
dark
clothing
and
did
fashion
shows
in
New.
York
I
had
to
give
up
that
because
I
survived
an
18-year,
abusive
marriage
and
I
said
enough,
and
then
I
went
into
a
public
safety
issue
and
and
again
I
was
denied
my
business
and
then
I
started
a
produce
stand
before
I
came
here
in
Transylvania,
County
and
Bubba,
who
had
a
36-page
rap
sheet.
Q
I
had
to
leave
that
business
and
I
focused
on
you,
our
TV,
where
that
was
my
job,
and
that
was
my
business
and
I
still
have
not
received
a
good
enough
reason
as
to
why
my
voice
and
our
voice
was
shut
down.
If
we,
the
people
are
so
important
to
this
community,
then
I
hope
that
you
look
under
w
n,
see
community
media
center
on
YouTube,
and
you
tell
me
which
one
of
those
shows
with
garbage,
because
I
don't
care
if
it
was
public
information.
Q
If
it
was
religion,
it
was
still
our
First
Amendment
right
now.
The
thing
that
all
those
people
had
in
common
is
that
they
all
took
away
my
job
and
destroyed
my
business.
The
one
thing
that
they
do
not
have
in
common
is
that
the
county
commissioners
take
an
oath
to
uphold
the
law.
Now,
when
I
reason,
when
I
requested
the
bud
the
BC
TV
budget,
this
is
the
only
thing
that
was
given
to
me
a
four-line
if
I
would
have
submitted
something
on
the
order
of
as
a
business,
I
would
have
been
laughed
out
now.
Q
I'm,
tired
of
playing
the
games
that
you
guys
are
playing
either
your
commissioners
and
you
are
going
to
uphold
the
law
and
you're
going
to
tell
me
why
you
are
TV
was
closed
down.
Why
you're
still
crediting
only
five
jobs
lost
with
this
new
budget
when
there
were
at
least
five
jobs
lost
at?
You
are
TV
that
makes
ten.
Now,
if
we
cannot
add
five
and
five
and
make
ten,
then
how
can
we
make
budgets
work?
Q
B
S
A
question
how
the
quest
you
give
you
name
where
you
from
both
Chris
Oakes
10,
the
question
I
got
is
on.
Why
live
at
my
prices
on
my
waist
pro,
which
is
counting,
but
as
people
is
dead,
my
wi-tri
outside
mine
was
not
been
picked
up.
I've
already
contacted
a
mr.
Rick
Ramsey
great
guy,
but
I
wonder
where
the
only
get
from
here
to
get
this
solved.
O
Dr.
golden
bird
Buncombe
County
resident
good
evening
in
the
past
few
weeks,
I
have
been
to
the
city
of
Asheville
repeatedly
on
the
issue
of
the
request
for
proposal
for
the
new
media
approach,
the
city
of
Asheville
has
put
out
for
request.
I
do
want
the
Commission
to
realize
that
public
participation
in
that
RFP
represented
only
ten
percent.
O
My
reason
for
bringing
this
up
is
really
because
of
what
I
had
spoke
with
them
about
last
time.
Making
decisions
that
are
bureaucratically
sound
yet
going
in
the
wrong
direction,
requires
strong
leadership
and
I
know
what
kind
of
challenge
you
guys
have
up
there
and
this
issue
of
you
are
TV.
This
public
access
issue
has
really
raised
the
questions
of
abilities,
of
how
trusting
and
how
effective
we
are
in
communicating
with
the
people.
Even
when
you're
in
disagreement,
one
of
my
favorite
quotes
of
Robert
Parish
former
mayor
past.
O
We
can
agree
to
disagree
agreeably.
There
is
a
real
challenge
of
responsibility
to
talk
with
the
people,
even
in
difficult
issues
and
conflict.
I
really
want
to
put
across
to
you
that
in
these
times
are
becoming
economically
more
and
more
challenging
that
you
bend
over
backwards
to
really
establish
communication
with
the
people,
because,
if
you
look
across
the
state
and
I've
been
doing
some
homework
on
this,
we're
seeing
the
food
assistance
demand
across
the
state.
Skyrocket
I
talked
with
health
service
directors
across
the
state,
we're
seeing
issues
of
fracturing
socially.
O
That
represents
so
much
difficulty
at
the
foundation
level
of
society
in
our
communities
that
we're
having
discord
and
we're
seeing
it
in
many
ways,
such
as
this
kind
of
issue.
I
want
you
to
understand
that
a
healing
is
needed
before
we
get
into
deeper
waters
with
the
issues
of
changing
economy
where
we
have
to
amputate
is
I've
heard
before
I
really
want
to
challenge
you
to
reach
out
again
to
us
of
the
public
and
work
with
us
in
our
communications,
especially
when
we
have
disagreements,
because
that's
when
we
need
you
the
most.
Thank
you
thank.
H
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
aboard
Jerry
Rice
encounter
seemed
like
a
lot
of
counting
folks
comes
out
and
talks.
We
poor
people
out
there
have
a
great
concern
on
the
MLS
listing
the
housing
market.
I've
certainly
been
engaged
in
some
of
that
here
recently
and
I
have
never
seen
the
like
of
people
selling
their
property.
What
I'd
call
dirt
cheap
but
nobody'd
abides
I'm
concerned
about.
H
If
the
housing
market
is
so
bad
that
the
real
estate
people
are
making
deals
that
honest-to-goodness
I
have
never
seen
nothing
like
there's
a
big
problem
here,
that's
being
hid
from
the
public
and
the
county.
Commissioners
are
hiding
it
from
now.
That's
my
my
big
beef
here
now
Gary
Roberts
is
a
man
of
his
word.
He's
very
nice
he's
been
nice
and
he's
the
best
person
ever
seen
to
work
with
people
and
I
give
him
credit
for
that.
H
But
if,
if
I
won't
say
something
further
I'd
like
to
say
to
the
county,
commissioners
ginger
ought
to
be
just
as
nice
as
mr.
Roberts
and
do
a
very
good
tax
reduction
and
a
reevaluation
of
property.
Because
of
tell
you
what
I've
run
into
just
this
week,
not
just
this
week,
but
I
told
you
when
you
said
you
weren't,
going
to
reevaluate
property
until
eight
years,
what
I've
run
into
on
a
daily
basis
and
a
weekly
basis.
The
tax
office
is
running
the
mileage
on
the
cars
like
crazy
reevaluating
property
on
a
daily
basis.
H
This
is
not
something
they
used
to
do
as
much
as
they're
doing
it
right
now,
and
what
my
concern
is
is
the
property
valuation
tax
is
going
up
up
up
up
and
the
poor
people
like
the
doctor
is
talking
about.
We
are
living
in
poverty,
we
are
living
in
the
slums.
If
you
want
to
hear
the
words
it
makes
it
ring
and
I,
don't
believe
we're
getting
to
the
ears
of
the
commissioners
to
lower
the
tax
rate.
This
is
killing
our
community
instant
bill
buildings.