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A
Commissioner,
chair
chairman,
david
gantt,
is
at
a
lawyer,
conference
and
out
of
town
and
vice
chair
bill
stanley
is
is
ill
this
afternoon.
I
would
ask
if
you
have
a
cell
phone
access.
If
you
have
a
cell
phone
in
your
pocket,
if
you
would
please
turn
it
off
or
put
it
on
vibrate
so
as
to
not
interrupt
the
meeting
this
afternoon.
B
A
A
And
will
you
please
join
me
as
we
have
our
invocation,
our
dear
heavenly
father?
We
are
grateful
to
gather
here
this
afternoon
as
folks
who
have
been
elected
by
the
citizens
of
buncombe
county
to
do
what
is
best
for
our
citizens.
We
come
with
open
hearts.
We
come
with
clear
minds.
We
come
with
a
sense
of
wanting
to
know
what
is
best
to
do.
We
come
knowing
that
our
citizens
deserve
the
very
best
government
and
we
come
with
the
hearts
to
do
that.
A
We
ask
blessings
upon
the
staff
members
of
buncombe
county
upon
elected
officials
throughout
all
the
municipalities,
and
we
we
come
to
you
with
asking
for
your
blessing
upon
this
meeting.
We
ask
this
in
your
most
holy
name:
amen,
amen,
ethics,
reminder
to
the
board
in
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
this
board.
It
is
the
duty
of
every
board
member
to
avoid
both
conflicts
of
interest
and
appearances
of
conflict
of
interest.
A
We
general,
we
generally
have
a
proclamation
for
this
kind
of
thing,
but
with
the
man
with
otto's
statute,
one
proclamation
would
not
do
it.
So
we
all
come
with
words
of
thanks
to
otto
for
the
many
years
of
service
that
he
gave
as
a
registered
deeds
here
in
buncombe
county,
and
let
me
re,
we
have
we
come
to
present
him
with
his
clock,
which
says
I
told
to
bruhl
buncombe
county
register
of
deeds
1978
until
2011..
A
That
is
a
record.
We
call
him
his
registership
and
he
truly
is-
and
I
would
like
for
commissioner
bailey
and
commissioner
jones
to
add
anything
that
they
would
like
to
and
thanking
otto
for
his
years
of
service
and
then
we'd
like
for
otto,
to
come
forward,
introduce
his
family
and
say
a
word
or
two
commissioner
jones.
D
There's
no
replacing
you
and
we
have
so
much
admiration
for
the
quality
of
work
that
came
out
of
the
register
of
deeds.
While
you
were
there
the
quantity,
we
appreciate
the
revenue
you
generated
for
us
and
but
most
of
all,
we
appreciate
your
heart
of
public
service
and
and
and
on
a
personal
note,
thank
you
for
all
the
the
kindness
and
encouragement
that
you've
you've
shown
me
over
the
years.
So
thank
you
so
much
thank.
F
I
told
someone
the
story
the
other
day,
that
in
my
days
that
at
ab
tech
we
offer
the
the
notary,
class
and
and
joanne
morgan
did
that
for
years
and
years
and
years,
and
I
I
knew
who
the
register
of
deeds
was
but
had
never
really
talked
to
otto
and
he
would
come
and
sit
in
the
lobby
and
wait
until
the
class
was
finished
and
then
he
would
go
in
and
certify
the
completion
of
the
notary
class
for
every
person.
Who
has
taken
that.
F
But
otto
didn't
have
to
come
and
sit
in
that
lobby
and
wait
until
they
finished
and
then
certify
the
completion
of
all
those
people.
The
good
thing
for
me
was:
is
that
sitting
there?
I
got
to
know
him
and
we
would
talk
as
I
would
be
passing
through
about
the
politics
in
buncombe
county,
about
the
good
things,
the
things
that
we
needed
to
be
doing,
and
he
encouraged
me
over
time
to
have
an
interest
in
buncombe,
county
politics
and
in
particular
in
being
a
commissioner.
F
So
from
that
I
looked
at
him
as
the
senior
political
person
in
this
county.
I
appreciated
his
direction.
I
appreciated
all
the
good
things
that
he
said
to
me
and
all
the
encouragement
that
he
gave
to
me.
I
appreciated
him
being
otto
and
let
me
drop
into
his
office
whenever
I
wished
and
he
would
offer
me
a
seat
and
offered
me
encouragement
and
offered
me
advice.
F
G
I
don't
have
words
for
this.
They
just
told
me
about
a
few
days
ago.
It
usually
takes
me
about
a
week
to
write
a
speech,
so
you'll.
Excuse
me
if
I
didn't
bring
a
speech
with
me
today,
but
I
know
33
years
seems
like
a
long
time
for
somebody.
It
used
to
seem
like
a
long
time
to
me,
but
the
33
years
in
the
registrar
deeds
office
went
by
don't
even
seem
like
10
years,
and
it's
because
I
enjoyed
every
day
of
it.
G
Well,
let's
see
every
day,
except
I
think
one
day
I
might
not
have
enjoyed
it,
but
what
I
I
appreciate.
All
the
kindness
of
the
commissioners
they've
been
good
to
me
over
the
years
and
they've
thanked
me
many
times
for
the
profit
I
made
all
33
years
for
the
counties,
but
I
did
it
with
a
good
staff
had
an
excellent
staff,
but
the
commissioners
and
the
county.
Commissioner,
I
mean
the
county
manager,
wonder
green
for
all
you
that
don't
know
it.
I've
been
here
under
about
five
county
managers.
G
You've
got
the
best
one.
We've
ever
had
sitting
back
there
and
wondering
one.
I
appreciate
all
your
kindness
and
your
help:
she's
one
of
the
most
professional
people.
I've
ever
worked
around
and
I
just
had
to
say
that
I
worked
a
lot
of
commissioners
and
we've
got
a
good
commissioner's
board
right
now.
H
G
G
J
G
A
A
K
A
A
K
Okay,
I
had
a
powerpoint
presentation:
either
way
is
fine,
whichever
is
easier
thanks.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
briefly
this
afternoon
april
is
public
health
month
and
we've
just
received
the
county
rankings
for
this
year,
so
the
county
health
ranking.
So
I
thought
it
was
a
good
opportunity
to
update
the
commissioners
on
where
we
are
in
the
county
and
the
work
that's
being
done
around
this.
I
think
one
of
the
things
just
to
remember
is
that
public
health
is
not
the
health
department.
K
K
If
you,
if
you
look
at
the
role
of
the
local
health
department,
you
there
there's
three
main
areas
where
we
focus
our
work.
One
is
an
assessment
and
I'll
be
talking
about
that
some
today,
so
it's
looking
at
our
community
and
providing
us
with
an
opportunity
to
prioritize
the
work
that
we
do
and
think
about
how
we
assure
that
everyone
in
our
community
has
an
opportunity
to
be
healthy.
K
So
it's
a
it's
a
broad
perspective
on
health
that
really
again
looks
at
prevention
and
how
we
assure
health
as
opposed
to
treating
illness.
Just
a
reminder:
2010
was
the
completion
of
our
community
health
assessment.
We
had
six
priority
areas.
There
were
over
700
individuals
in
our
community
that
were
engaged
in
that
process.
K
I
think
everyone
would
agree
that
if
our
children
are
going
to
have
healthy
lives
and
are
going
to
be
productive
in
our
communities,
they
have
to
have
a
good
start
and
if
they
don't
have
a
good
start
through
a
healthy
pregnancy,
they're
not
going
to
have
a
good
start.
It's
just
the
way
it
is
so
we
want
to
focus
more
on
women's
health.
We
have
issues
with
teen
pregnancy.
We
have
issues
with
unintended
pregnancies
and
we
have
issues
with
sexually
transmitted
diseases,
so
we'll
be
focusing
on
that
as
we
move
forward.
K
We
also
know
that
having
a
good,
solid
education
is,
is
critical
for
our
youth
and,
if
they're
not
healthy,
it's
difficult
for
them
to
learn.
What
we've
discovered
through
research
is
that
children
who
have
dental
issues,
don't
learn
well
in
school.
Children
who
have
asthma,
don't
learn
well
in
school,
so
making
sure
that
they
have
those
issues
treated
and
taken
care
of
so
that
they
can
be
productive
in
school
is
important,
also
making
sure
that
we
focus
on
working
with
our
families.
K
We
can
teach
our
children
all
day
long
in
school,
but
if
they
don't
have
the
option
of
implementing
those
things
that
they
learn,
whether
that's
being
active,
whether
that's
eating
well,
if
they
can't
do
that
at
home,
then
it
doesn't
matter
what
we
teach
them
in
school
and
the
other
areas
where
they're
exposed
to
that
information.
So
we
also
need
to
support
the
families
we
need
to.
We
need
them
to
be
in
a
position
to
provide
good
environments
for
their
children
to
grow,
and
so
that
became
one
of
our
focus
areas.
K
K
K
K
So
this
is
the
second
year
these
rankings
have
come
out
and
the
thing
that's
important
about
this
slide
is
they
looked
at
two
things:
they
looked
at
health
outcomes,
which
is
more
to
morbidity
and
mortality.
So
that's
how
well
we
live
and
how
long
we
live.
They
looked
at
that
those
particular
issues
and
they
looked
at
health
factors,
and
the
research
shows
that
there's
four
main
areas
of
health
factors
that
impact
the
health
of
a
community.
K
K
As
you
look
people
think
of
the
health
of
a
community
by
how
many
people
have
a
doctor,
only
20
percent
of
the
impact
comes
from
clinical
care,
30
percent
from
health
behaviors,
40
percent
from
social
and
economic
factors.
So
when
you
think
of
the
health
of
our
community,
you
also
have
to
think
about
the
education
of
the
community.
The
poverty
within
our
community
housing.
That's
available.
How
many
children
live
in
single-parent
homes.
K
Those
sort
of
sorts
of
issues
quite
often
are
just
as
important
in
looking
at
how
healthy
our
community
can
be
as
anything
else
that
we
look
at.
So
how
did
we
do
well?
Last
year
we
ranked
25th
out
of
100
counties
this
year
we
ranked
17th,
as
you
can
see
in
that
map.
I
just
you
can't
read
that
really
well,
but
the
lighter
counties
ranked
in
the
top
25
percent
and
the
darker
counties
in
the
bottom
25
percent.
K
As
you
can
see
in
the
western
part
of
the
state,
we
have
a
mixture
of
counties,
so
we
have
neighboring
counties
who
have
more
difficulty
than
we
have
some
of
that's
due
to
the
wealth
of
the
county
and
the
resources
that
are
available.
So
we
look
forward
to
working
within
our
region
to
bring
all
of
us
up.
K
But
if
you
look
at
the
specific
rankings
and
the
information
that
we
received
from
them
more
mortality
and
the
morbidity
areas,
we
ranked
15th
in
the
state,
so
we
did
okay
in
that
arena.
But
again
this
is
the
current
health
of
our
community,
so
15
around
mortality
35th
with
morbidity.
So
there's
there's
quite
a
few
people
in
our
community
who
are
not
living
as
well
as
they
could
work
for
us
to
do
and
you'll
see.
You
see
the
little
red
sad
faces.
K
K
This.
These
are
things
that
we
have
in
place
that
will
make
our
community
healthy,
so
we
rank
third
in
the
state
which
is
not
bad.
That's
actually
pretty
good.
But
if
you
look
again
at
the
faces,
the
majority
of
them
are
red,
which
means
nationally.
We
do
not
do
as
well
as
we
would
like
to
do,
and
part
of
that
relates
to
the
fact
that
although
we
rank
17th
in
north
carolina,
north
carolina
ranks
35th
in
the
country
out
of
50..
So
it's
all
sort
of
relative.
You
have
to
look
at
the
big
picture.
K
K
K
I
think
the
good
news
is
that
buncombe
county
has
continued
to
improve.
There
are
lots
of
partners
in
the
community
who
contribute
to
this
and
continue
to
stay
and
engaged
and
involved
with
us,
as
we
continue
to
try
to
improve
the
health
of
our
community,
and
I
think
that's
the
main
message
for
us.
We
have
made
strides.
K
We've
got
a
long
way
to
go,
and
it's
important
for
us
to
remember
that
that
it's
the
leaders
in
this
community
who
can
make
a
significant
difference
and
it's
the
community
as
a
whole
individuals,
can
contribute
to
their
own
health.
But
if
we're
not
healthy
as
a
community,
it
will
be
more
difficult
for
them
to
be
healthy.
So
we
appreciate
the
leadership
that
the
commissioners
provide
in
this
arena
and
look
forward
to
continue
working
with
you
through
the
years.
F
K
H
K
D
K
That's
part
of
the
problem
with
this
there's
only
so
much
data
they
can
look
at
that
gets
measured
in
every
county
or
that
is
available
in
every
county
across
the
country,
because
this
is
done
for
every
county
in
the
united
states,
we're
hoping
that
they
have
settled
on
the
data
that
they're
going
to
measure,
because
it
will
make
it
easier
for
us
to
follow
over
time.
So
the
answer
to
that
is,
we
hope.
D
Super
and
another
just
kind
of
a
tweaky
question.
So
when
it
talks
about
the
factors
considered
and
there's
the
health
outcomes
and
then
the
health
factors
and
then
there's
that
little
thing
at
the
bottom,
the
programs
and
policies
is
that
kind
of.
Are
they
measuring
that
or
or
what
is?
What's
that
one
about
their.
K
What
they're
attempting
to
do
through
this,
this
measuring
is
identify
areas
where
we
need
to
focus
strategies
and
policies
and
on
their
particular
website.
If
you
go
to
one
of
these
areas,
they
have
listed
best
practices
that
you
can
look
at
and
determine
whether
they
would
work
well
in
your
community.
L
A
A
A
A
N
N
N
The
rezoning
would
be
consistent
with
the
buncombe
county
land
use
plan,
as
the
update
indicates.
That
cs
is
primarily
intended
to
provide
suitable
locations
for
clustered
commercial
development
to
encourage
concentration
of
commercial
activity
in
those
specified
areas
with
access
to
major
traffic
arterials.
N
A
O
Thank
you
for
considering
this
agenda
item
and
I
only
only
add
one
thing
to
what
mr
trump
has
already
said:
that
of
course,
as
you
have
already
been
told,
it
fronts
u.s,
highway
federal
highway,
u.s
70
and
the
latest
north
carolina
department
of
transportation
average
daily
traffic
along
that
corridor
is
17
000
vehicles
in
a
24-hour
period,
and
everything
else,
of
course,
is
just
fine,
and
we
appreciate
you
considering
this
item
and
we
look
forward
to
your
approval.
Thank.
A
J
My
name
is
dave
mcmahon,
I'm
a
real
estate
broker
with
jd
jack
associates
and
I'm
assisting
the
moors
in
the
sale
of
subject,
property,
your
pre-board
data
sheets
and
what
mr
trump
has
said-
pretty
much
states
all
the
facts,
but
there's
a
couple
that
I
would
like
to
point
out
specifically
from
the
subject:
property
west
to
the
city
limits
of
asheville,
which
is
a
little
under
two
miles.
There's
only
one
other
r1
property
that
fronts
on
highway:
70.,
going
from
subject:
property
east
to
the
town
limits
of
black
mountain.
J
A
Thank
you,
sir.
Any
other
folks
like
to
comment
during
this
public
hearing.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
Anyone
see
none.
I
yes,
sir,
come
to
the
podium
please
or
state.
Your
name
is
the
general
comment
regarding
this
particular
zoning.
Okay,
then
we
we
will
have
this
just
for
this
particular
zoning
request.
A
N
I
was
going
to
remind
you
that,
prior
to
a
a
motion
to
approve
or
disapprove,
we
would
ask
that
you'd
make
a
statement
of
consistency
with
the
the
land
use
plan.
If
you're
inclined
to
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
it,
and
we
do
have
that
the
land
use
plan
does
state
that
cs
is
intended
to
provide
suitable
locations
for
clustered
commercial
development
to
encourage
concentration
of
commercial
activity
in
areas
along
major
traffic
arterials.
N
A
B
P
A
A
A
A
Q
We
have,
at
the
present
time
towers
located
throughout
the
county
and
a
lot
of
times
are
co-located
on
existing
cell
towers.
Some
are
with
progress,
energy,
one
of
them
with
a
private
individual
and
due
to
the
fact
that
the
federal
communications
commission
has
mandated
a
re,
what
they
call
a
rebanding
process
to
take
place
as
of
january
1
2013,
which
means,
if
we
have
the
present
bandwidth.
Q
Let's
say:
is
this
wide
they're
going
to
shrink
it
in
half
and
when
they
do
that,
it's
going
to
require
us
to
have
to
put
up
more
towers
with
public
safety,
radio
frequencies-
and
this
applies
to
all
county
public
safety
agencies-
sheriff
ems
fire,
whatever
we're
going
to
have
to
add
some
towers.
But
when
you
model
these
things,
you
have
to
put
them.
Q
D
I
just
have
one
kind
of
it's
a
kind
of
a
scenario:
question,
because
I'm
supportive
of
of
this
resolution
is
there
a
way
to
make
sure
that
in
the
future
you
know
when
we're
gone
or
whatever,
that
that
this
exemption
for
public
safety
that
we're
about
to
adopt
is
not
co-opted
by
kind
of
a
private
entity.
In
other
words,
does
that
make
sense
that
people
try
to
jump
on
anyway?
So
if.
Q
D
D
Say
agree
to
the
building
of
a
tower
that
might
have
public
safety
needs,
but
that
somebody
could
get
around
the
ordinance.
So
I
guess
maybe
that's
a
legal
question,
so
I
think
it's
smart,
the
way,
y'all
kind
of
man-
that's
also
very
good
environmental
stewardship
to
kind
of
team
up
where
they're
already
built,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
a
of
a
way
if
there
was
any
way
that
someone
or
a
private
entity
would
try
to
co-opt
this
exemption
that
we've
we're
clearly
making
for
public
safety.
So.
Q
D
A
N
If
you
have
a
zoning
district
that
wouldn't
have
allowed
those,
then
you
would
have
fairly
large
areas
that
didn't
have
good
coverage.
So
it's
simply
a
public
safety
matter
to
to
have
good
coverage
throughout
the
county.
The
planning
board
held
a
public
hearing
february
21st
on
the
proposed
language.
They
received
no
public
comment
on
it
and
voted
unanimously
to
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
ordinance
change
and,
as
far
as
consistency
with
the
land
use
plan.
A
R
R
Information
on
it,
because
it
might
be
that
in
the
future
that
you
might
want
to
say
well,
we
can
raise
revenue,
so
let's
change
the
language
again
and
go
the
opposite
direction.
So
then,
what
do
we
got
to
look
at?
It's
a
big
debate
over
this
tower
business
back
some
time
ago
on
what
it
looks.
Like
the
other
question,
I
know,
public
safety
is
the
issue
and
I
admire
gary
for
what
he
does.
R
S
T
Cheryl
wolfe,
I
just
have
a
small
question.
I
do
believe
this
place
is
up
and
down
and
up
and
down
and
that
we
are
not
covered
and
the
big
thing
probably
for
everybody
is
safety,
weather
channel.
You
know
local
information
news
things
like
that
that
have
to
get
out
policemen,
firemen
and
to
the
local
public
that
are
tornadoes
coming
whatever
and
that
we
are
not
covered
appropriately
without
the
towers.
T
T
In
our
case,
that
was
good
because
we
paid
for
it
all
and
built
it,
and
that
was
the
only
way
we
could
reach
each
other
in
this
particular
thing.
I
would
hope
that
it
is
written
in
such
a
way
that,
prior
to
ever
selling
to
any
private
individual
anything
else,
safety
must
come
top
of
the
line
that
they
get
x
amount
of
bandwidth
x,
amount
of
stuff.
T
First,
because
you
don't
know
what
other
kind
of
safety
modes
are
going
to
come
along.
Otherwise
you
could
have
you
know.
Jerry's
pizza
over
here
he's
got
bandwidth
and
something's
got
bandwidth.
The
microphone's
got
bandwidth.
You
know
you,
you
can
creep
into
that
little
thing,
but
if
you
write
it
in
such
a
way
that
you
put
safety
as
your
basic
issue
and
then,
if
you
have
free
space,
you
know
keep
it
alone.
A
U
U
So
what
exactly
safety
is
this
tower
doing
and
also
what
are
the
detrimental
effects?
They
said
that
within
500
feet,
every
residence
has
to
be
notified
that
these
towers
are
going
to
be
built.
You
know
these
things
have
been
purported
to
cause
cancer,
these
kinds
of
cell
phone
towers
and
whatnot.
So
I'm
wondering
what
exactly
there's
that
reason
is
for
that
and
what
the
damage
is
to
the
people
nearby,
like
you
know,
is
that
is
this
a
real
necessity
or
just
curious.
A
A
N
We
there
will
be
no
property
seizures.
We
will
negotiate
with
willing
landowners
to
locate
the
towers
as
far
as
as
negative
health
impacts
go.
The
the
notification
was
not
really
intended
because
of
of
that,
we
don't
have
any
statistics
that
support
that
there
would
be
such
a
an
impact,
but
it's
just
to
let
adjoining
property
known
owners
know
that
that
something's
happening
in
their
area
and
to
give
them
a
little
notification,
and
that
was
something
that
the
planning
board
wanted
to
put
in
there
just
just
to
to
make
people
aware.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
B
I'm
sorry,
the
the
frequencies
that
we're
talking
about
are
in
use
today
is
simply
to
expand
the
coverage
that
we
currently
have
coverage.
While
all
these
all
the
equipment
does
have
communication,
it's
very
weak
in
certain
areas
and
with
the
federal
mandate
to
narrow
band,
like
jerry
mentioned
before
it's
going
to
decrease
that
coverage.
That's
why
we
need
more
sites.
A
A
R
F
F
A
V
Thank
you,
commissioners.
I
come
tonight
to
seek
your
support
on
some
potential
legislation
that
we've
had
an
opportunity
since
the
year
2005
to
be
a
leader
in
the
state
to
try
to
to
build
the
foundation.
That
brings
this
resolution
forward
in
this
opportunity
to
us.
There's
a
power
point
if
judy
can
bring
it
up
very
briefly.
V
First
slide
is
just
again
a
reminder
when
we
talk
about
human
services
in
buncombe
county
from
this
board's
perspective,
that's
included
social
services,
the
department
of
health,
workforce
development
parks,
greenways
and
recreation.
Child
care
services
also
includes
the
county
dollars.
We
expand
in
mental
health
and
aging,
as
well
as
the
animal
welfare
component,
the
sheriff's
responsible
for
animal
enforcement,
but
we're
responsible
for
the
management
of
the
actual
shelter
in
that
contract.
V
There
are
two
bills
that
are
currently
have
been
introduced.
These
are
two
very
positive
bills,
both
in
the
senate
and
the
house,
and
what
they
basically
do
is
give
local
counties
some
flexibility
about
how
they
design
the
governance
of
their
human
services,
as
I
want
to
show
on
the
next
slide,
because
I
think
this
is
really
relevant.
V
Human
services
is
a
single
largest
component
of
your
budget,
yet
you're
provided
under
the
law
very
little
flexibility
about
how
you
administer
those
dollars
for
those
programs
for
the
staff
who
deliver
those
services
in
your
community
and
that's
what
this
legislation
speaks
to.
If
judy
will
flip
to
the
next
slide.
I
think
this
is
a
really
relevant
point
I
want
to
make
tonight,
because,
while
we
are
the
single
largest
component
of
the
county
budget
at
35.1
million
dollars,
county
funding
is
a
very
small
portion
of
the
dollars.
V
A
V
Judy
we'll
just
jump
to
the
next
slide.
This
gives
you
a
further
breakdown
when
you
look
at
it
across
the
specific
departments
and
again
other
just
includes
those
county
mental
health
dollars
that
we're
responsible
for
expanding,
which
are
about
a
million
dollars
a
year,
our
animal
services
contract
for
the
shelter
and
our
aging
services.
V
Next
slide,
please
judy
one
of
the
interesting
things
in
the
current
economic
downturn
that
the
congressional
budget
office
has
done
is
they've
taken
federally
mandated
programs,
and
I
know,
as
the
economy
tightens
and
we've
been
challenged
across
the
nation.
More
and
more
people
have
had
to
rely
on
some
of
these
assistance
programs.
I
know
they
can
be
controversial.
V
I
think
that's
an
important
slide,
because
part
of
what
I
want
to
talk
about
tonight
is
the
scope
and
breadth
of
your
human
services
departments
and
the
responsibilities
counties
bayer
with
very
little
control,
and
I
think
the
two
bills
that
have
been
introduced
to
ford
county
some
additional
control.
If
you
don't
mind
judy
skipping
to
the
next
slide,
this
shows
you
the
history
of
this
issue
with
buncombe
county,
and
I
would
note
that
that
any
partisan
issues
have
never
been
relevant
to
this
discussion.
V
As
early
as
1992,
this
board
passed
a
resolution
or
the
board
of
commissioners
at
that
time.
Supporting
that
we
needed
a
simpler
way
to
administer
these
programs.
We
needed
more
local
control
and
more
ability
to
operate
in
a
more
efficient
way
passed
a
similar
resolution
in
2006
2007,
and
I
bring
to
you
again
tonight
a
resolution
in
2011
again
just
asking
for
counties
to
have
the
option
to
have
additional
control
about
how
they
administer
these
programs.
V
What
we've
seen
happen,
as
a
result
of
that
is,
we
have
built
very,
very
strong
private
public
partnerships
and
the
sport
is
given
very
strong
direction,
as
has
the
county
manager
that,
in
building
those
partnerships,
we
help
keep
the
community
safety
net
as
a
whole.
Strong
we've
also
always
entered
into
a
public-private
partnership
from
the
perspective
that
it
either
has
to
improve
the
quality
of
the
service.
V
V
Basically-
and
this
is
the
last
slide
north
carolina
county
commissioners
association-
has
adopted
this
issue
as
one
of
their
legislative
priorities
and
they
identify
the
following
benefits
to
this
change,
which
would
allow
much
greater
flexibility
on
a
local
level.
You
would
have
boards
of
social
services
and
health,
or
your
human
service
board
would
be
a
hundred
percent
appointed
by
your
local
commissioners.
Right
now,
the
governor
appoints
part
of
those
members
to
the
boards.
It
also
requires
consumer
representation
and
we
think
that's
a
critical
component
of
a
human
service
board.
V
It
increases
local
control
and
it
lets
the
100
counties
in
north
carolina.
If
they
choose
to
do
so-
and
this
is
not
a
mandate,
this
allows
for
flexibility
if
they
choose
to
do
so,
it
lets
them
design
how
they
deliver
human
services,
unique
to
their
own
individual
communities
and
that's
what
the
legislation
speaks
to
and
what
I'm
asking
you
to
support
tonight.
A
If
you
could
see
your
all's
faces
as
she's
making
this
this
is,
this
would
be
the
kind
of
class
response
that
I
would
like
to
have
had.
When
I
was
teaching
I
mean
you
all
are
wrapped
with
the
tension
with
what
this
this
lady
is
saying.
Every
slide
that
she
presented
is
monumental.
I
mean
every
slide.
We
should
have
a
packet
of
these
to
go
out
the
door
with
everyone
as
they
leave.
It's
unbelievable.
D
V
W
V
There
the
legislation
speaks
directly
to
departments
of
health
and
departments
of
social
services
as
well
as
mental
health,
and
we
are
a
county
that
meets
the
population
gate
that
we
at
some
point
could
choose
to
be
a
stand-alone
mental
health
system
and
blend
all
those
services.
I'm
not
saying
we're
evaluating
that,
but
that's
what
the
legislation
allows
so.
D
V
Absolutely
wouldn't
have
that
option,
okay,
so
what
it
allows
you
is
right
now
you
have
a
very
prescribed
appointment
for
both
the
social
services
board
and
the
board
of
health.
This
allows
you
to
appoint
one
single
human
service
board
that
does.
There
are
some
requirements
around
the
qualifications,
particularly
on
the
board
of
health
side,
but
it's
one
consolidated
board
that
governs
health
and
social
services,
so.
D
V
Think
it
is
about
that.
That's
what
the
legislation's
about.
I
think
the
model
that
this
county
has
endorsed
is
about
how
we
make
those
services
streamlined
for
citizens-
and
I
know
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
this,
but
the
redesign
of
the
cox
building,
which
will
be
a
human
services
center,
will
be
a
totally
seamless
human
service
system,
you'll
check
in
in
a
coordinated
way
and
you'll
receive
services
in
one
site
in
a
coordinated
way.
Y
D
You
know
going
forward
that
my
support
of
this
resolution
for
this
legislation
does
not
equate
to
my
support
of
the
next
step,
because
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
idea
of
you
know
basic
basically,
I
mean
in
my
humble
opinion,
you
know
kind
of
really
reducing
the
the
scope
and
the
authority
of
the
board
of
health.
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
part
of
what
would
happen
in
this
without
a
lot
of
conversation
and
and
going
forward,
I
might,
I
might
can
get
there.
I
just.
D
V
W
D
F
V
It
does
yes,
it
does
not
change.
It's
a
really
a
very
a
very
relevant
point,
commissioner
bailey.
It
does
not
change
the
case
law
that
defines
when
particularly
your
department,
social
service
accident
agent
of
the
state.
There
are
still
many
programs
they
deliver
that
you
won't
have
more
control
over
aspects
of
it's
a
very
valid
point.
A
The
boat,
probably
one
of
the
most
interesting
meetings
that
we
have
as
a
member
of
the
board
of
health,
is
when
we
meet
with
the
with
the
dss
board
and
work
jointly
with
situations
that
we
see
are,
you
know,
are
common
to
both
of
us,
so
I
just
throw
that
out.
It's
probably
some
of
the
liveliest
conversations
we
have
as
health
board
members
very
lively,
so
it
I
move.
A
Z
Z
Z
A
If
do
we
need
to
approve
this?
We
are
just
hearing
the
report.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
two
one
other
item
under
new
business.
During
our
the
adoption
of
the
agenda,
we
decided
as
a
group
that
we
would
move
the
resolution
up.
That
was
on
the
consent
agenda.
Regarding
the
naming
of
a
section
of
u.s
highway
70
the
highway
of
heroes.
Is
there
anyone
present
who
would
like
to
come
and
speak
to
that?
Yes,
ma'am?
If
you
could
come
to
the
mic,
please
and
state
your
name.
We
appreciate
it.
X
One
of
them
runs
a
small
business
and
has
requested
that
we
partner
with
several
local
veteran
groups
to
name
a
part
of
the
highway
from
exit.
Can
you
all
hear
me
from
exit
59
to
grovestone
road
on
federal,
highway
70.,
which
is
the
route
that's
traveled
by
people
coming
to
the
veterans,
cemetery,
so
the
hundreds
of
veterans
on
that
road
every
year?
X
X
X
Anything
that
helps
unite
a
community
is
good
for
business
in
that
community
and
swannanoa
is
so
different
from
other
communities
around
it.
So
we
we
are
trying
to
find
our
little
niche,
and
this
is
part
of
it
is
to
welcome
an
awful
lot
of
veterans
here.
The
vietnam
memorial
replica
will
be
in
swananoa
thanks
to
several
veterans
groups.
X
September
21st
through
26th
and
that'll,
be
there'll,
be
celebrations
that
weekend
and
that
week
and
last
time
it
came
in
07
there
were
4
thousand
and
something
visitors.
So
it
really
is
something
that's
in
great
demand.
They
had
school
groups
and
a
lot
of
things
going
on
that
weekend.
So
save
the
date
for
the
last
weekend
in
september
is
also
our
mill
around
the
village
festival,
so
there'll
be
a
lot
going
on.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
letting
me
talk
and
for
considering
this
resolution
and
I
hope
you'll
yay.
It.
A
I
think
if
there
should
be
a
spokesman
for
swan
and
knowing
what's
happening
there,
I
think
they,
you
should
be
right
there.
We
do
have
a
resolution
before
us.
I
notice
in
the
resolution
that
there
were
143
funerals
at
the
state
cemetery
last
year
and
and
of
course,
thousands
of
folks
who
attended
those
those
funerals
and-
and
I
think
this
is
just
something
that
is
needs
to
be
done,
and
I
would
entertain
a
motion
from
a
board
member
that
we
adopt
this
resolution.
A
A
Mr
howell
is
with
the
howell
group
telecommunications
consulting
associates.
We
have
asked
him
to
come
this
afternoon
to
tell
us
about
urtv
responsibilities.
There
background
there
have
been
a
lot
of
questions
in
the
last
several
board
meetings
regarding
urtv
and
we
have.
We
are
bringing
the
man
back.
A
AA
Well,
thank
you
for
having
me
back,
I'm
here
to
give
you
a
retrospective
view
of
the
peg
channel
issues
here
in
buncombe
county
to
update
you
on
your
funding
levels
and
some
legislative
changes
that
have
occurred.
Since
I
was
last
here
in
june
of
last
year,
I'm
not
here
to
discuss
the
merits
of
urtv.
That's
that's
not
my
my
job
here
or
just
the
funding.
AA
AA
So
you
guys
have
been
certifying
urtv.
Those
monies
that
come
in
from
the
supplemental
peg
funds
that
are
distributed
by
the
north
carolina
department
of
revenue
must
be
equally
divided
between
the
two
certified
channels.
You
don't
have
a
choice
in
how
that
money
is
divvied
up.
It
has
to
be
divided
evenly
between
buncombe
county
tv,
and
you
are
tv.
AA
AA
The
state
then
said
set
up
that
as
a
ratio
as
a
percentage
of
what
your
total
franchise
fees
were.
Well,
that
percentage
was
5.79,
and
that
meant
that
going
forward,
not
for
anything
in
retros
retrospect,
but
going
forward,
the
county
had
to
fund
peg
channel
operations
at
5.79
percent
of
the
fees
that
you
received
from
the
department
of
revenue.
AA
They
didn't
tell
you
who
to
give
it
to.
They
didn't
tell
you
when
to
give
it
to
them
or
how
to
give
it
to
them.
They
said
they
have
to
go
to
support
peg
channel
operations,
and
that
included
your
public,
your
educational
and
your
government
access
channel
it
could
be
equally
distributed.
It
could
be
given
all
to
one.
It
could
be
given
to
two
of
the
three
that
was
totally
up
to
you.
AA
I
don't
know
how
many,
but
as
soon
as
they
offered
service
to
a
resident
in
buncombe,
county
charter
could
apply
to
the
secretary
of
state
terminate
their
franchise
agreement
and
and
with
it,
went
all
of
the
franchise
fees
that
you
used
to
collect.
The
state
began
collecting
those
and
they
use
it.
They
collect
it
as
a
sales
tax,
the
video
sales
tax
that
you
get
some
back
from
them.
AA
I
failed
to
mention
that
the
currently
the
county
uses
the
5.79
that
you
receive
from
the
state
to
offset
expenses
that
you
incur
from
buncombe
county
tv
from
from
the
school
channel.
That's
out
there
and
and
you've
you've
done
that,
because
in
the
past
the
public
access
dollars
were
more
heavily
weighted
towards.
You
are
tv,
I'll
I'll,
lay
out
those
dollars
in
just
a
moment,
but
back
in
2002
when
we
negotiated
the
new
franchise,
it
was
supposed
to
last
till
2014..
AA
It
didn't,
but
the
terms
of
that
agreement
fortunately
withstood
this
termination
of
their
franchise
agreement.
Charter
was
to
fund
with
a
grant
peg
operations
in
the
county,
peg,
meaning
public,
educational
and
government
three
channels
they
had
to
make
an
upfront
grant,
and
then
they
continued
with
a
per
customer
stipend
that
that
was
passed
through
to
the
customers
and,
just
as
a
note
charter
has
lost
subscribers
in
buncombe
county
they've
lost
subscribers
nationwide.
AA
Until
the
present
the
county
has
collected
over
1.1
million
dollars
from
charter.
That
was
to
be
used
for
all
three
channels
and
you've.
Given
you
rtv
the
bulk
of
those
dollars.
Urtv
has
received
nearly
775
000
of
those
monies
that
were
collected
from
charter
asheville
city
schools
and
buncombe
county
government.
Each
received
a
little
less
than
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars.
AA
While
the
franchise
was
in
force,
public
access
had
an
opportunity
to
generate
greater
revenues
by
having
a
greater
percentage
of
programming
created
locally
and
the
public
access
commission
had
a
seat
at
the
table
during
the
negotiations,
and
they
they
helped
us
benchmark
the
the
hours
that
they
believed
that
they
could
produce,
and
we
wrote
that
into
the
contract
for
additional
funding.
Unfortunately,
those
additional
hours
never
never
got
produced,
and
so
hence
I
guess
about
a
half.
AA
A
million
dollars
was
left
on
the
table
that
the
charter
was
never
required
to
to
pay
to
the
county.
Urtv
could
have
received
additional
funding
from
other
municipalities
in
the
in
the
county.
I
did
not
do
that
research,
but
best
I
can
tell
I
don't
believe
additional
funds
of
any
substance
were
made
from
any
of
the
other
municipalities.
AA
It
was
mentioned
that
the
county
has
received
millions
of
dollars
in
franchise
fees
that
should
have
been
distributed
to
you,
our
tv,
that's
that's
an
incorrect
assessment
of
of
what's
been
collected
and
what
should
have
flown
flown
out
the
door
franchise
fees
have
been
collected
by
this
county
since
the
60s
you've
always
collected
a
percentage
of
the
franchi
of
the
grocery
seats
of
the
cable
operator
that
was
operating
here
back
when
miss
toms
owned
the
cable
system.
Here
they
paid
the
county
three
percent
of
their
revenues.
AA
AA
They
they
went
right
into
the
general
fund
and
to
be
used
for
the
operation
of
county
business
in
2002
that
changed
and
we
instituted
some
additional
funding
for
for
the
for
the
peg
channels.
The
number
that
was
mentioned,
I
believe,
once
at
least
once
I
reviewed
all
of
the
comments.
At
least
once
was
30
million
dollars.
AA
The
county
may
have
collected
30
million
dollars
in
all
of
the
years
that
you've
been
regulating
cable
tv,
donna.
You
and
I
could
probably
do
a
little
digging
on
that,
but
I
don't
think
you've
managed
to
get
to
30
million
dollars
since
the
1960s
or
even
before
then,
when,
when
cable
first
came
out
annually,
you
receive
about
1.2
million
dollars.
AA
AA
AA
That
said,
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
raleigh
these
days
and
you
can't
bank
on
anything
until
they're
done
and
come
home.
But
if
that
legislation
survives,
then
the
urtv
distribution
under
the
supplemental
peg
fund
would
be
about
34
thousand
dollars
annually
up
up
from
about
17
18
000
right
now
by
law.
These
funds
must
be
distributed
to
the
certified
peg
channels,
and
if
it's
8
500,
then
it's
I
mean
if
it's
34
000
it's
34
000..
AA
It
is
what
it
is
when
we,
when
we
get
it
now
recapping
since
charter
no
longer
passes
through
a
peg
peg
fee
to
our
subscribers
and
we've
verified
that
we've
looked
at
bills,
we've
called
charter.
They
said
they
no
longer
are
doing
that
that
ran
out
sometime
third
quarter
third
calendar
quarter
last
year.
AA
AA
The
budget
is
for
around
297
000
and
based
on
the
review
that
I,
what
I
saw
was
about
33
percent
33
000
of
that
or
11
percent
is
coming
from
internally
generated
dollars
and
the
balance
which
is
around
262
000
dollars,
is
being
requested
from
the
city
of
asheville
and
buncombe
county
split
down
the
middle
or
about
130
000
each,
and
that
may
have
changed.
They
may
have
fine-tuned
their
budget
a
little
this.
AA
This
may
be
some
dated
dated
numbers,
but
I
don't
think
it's
changed
a
whole
lot
now
and
when
we
were
here
in
june
of
last
year,
commissioner
gant
asked
me
to
meet
with
urtv
and
sit
down
and
try
to
come
up
with
some
other
types
of
funding
sources
and-
and
I
had
a
very
productive
meeting
with
with
their
board.
We
met
for
several
hours
and
we
discussed
a
number
of
ways
that
urtv
might
increase
their
revenues
working
with
the
tourism
authority
working
with
the
chamber
of
commerce.
AA
I
don't
know
if,
if
any
of
the
initiatives
that
we
discussed
have
been
instituted
or
instituted.
Yet
when
I
look
at
the
the
budget
of
internally
generated
revenues
this
year
over
the
last
four
years,
it
doesn't
seem
to
have
a
an
emphasis
on
that,
but
there
again
I
haven't,
haven't
met
with
them
since
last
july,
going
forward,
we
should
re.
We
should
expect
to
receive
about
68
dollars
from
north
carolina
department
of
revenue.
AA
AA
I
also
recommend
that,
as
the
county,
this
particular
funding
in
order
to
generate
this
funding
between
there
needs
to
be
an
agreement,
some
agreement
between
the
county
and
urtv.
We
had
a
management
agreement
and
I
believe
that
may
have
expired.
We
might
want
to
revisit
that
management
agreement
and
make
sure
that
there's
there's
a
reason
for
the
county
certifying
the
channel
because,
as
I
said,
any
city
could
certify
them
you're
not
required
to
certify
them.
AA
You
you,
by
default,
are
certifying
the
channel,
but
in
return
for
the
thirty
four
thousand
dollars
that
the
state
passes
to
us
to
pass
on,
there
should
be
some
sort
of
formal
agreement
for
certification.
At
the
very
least
questions,
that's
a
lot
to
chew
on
and
there's
a
lot
of
numbers
in
there.
I
guess
the
the
the
one
comment
that
I
would.
I
would
like
to
really
make
sure
that
that
you
folks
understand
is
that,
historically,
your
franchise
fees
have
gone
for
the
management
of
your
rights
of
ways
in
public
ways.
AA
AA
We
need
for
you
to
come
and
fix
it,
and-
and
you
have
always
done
that,
if,
if
somebody's
property
is
damaged
during
the
installation
of
of
cable
lines,
that
you
have
the
wherewithal
to
either
fix
it
or
get
it
fixed
to
take
care
of
it,
those
dollars
have
always
flown
been
into
your
general
fund.
Those
are
franchise
fees
and
that's
the
way
it
works
across
the
country.
F
AA
AA
AA
They
stated
that
a
cable
company
and
we'll
call
that
cable
company
charter,
since
that's
who
they
are
here,
but
any
cable
company
anywhere
in
the
country
had
to
provide
least
access
channels
for
anybody
to
purchase
time
on
now
that
can
be
in
by
the
hour
it
can
be
by
the
by
the
day,
by
the
year
leased
access.
They
have
to
provide
up
to
15
percent
of
their
channel
capacity.
AA
AA
You
have
a
local
access
channel
here
in
buncombe
county,
but
many
communities
do
not
have
that
type
of
channel,
and
so
the
cable
companies
are
required
to
sell
time
to
anybody
that
that
that
wants
to
buy
time
on
their
on
their
programming
and
it
can
be
a
shared
channel.
It
can
be
a
designated
channel.
A
As
as
I
said
before,
mr
howell
started
his
presentation.
We
asked
him
here
to
come
here
tonight
because
we
we
realized
that
we
needed
to
to
have
some
facts
brought
to
us
or
have
the
facts
reinforced
to
us,
and
we
also
realized
that
there
is
a
a
great
deal
of
interest.
As
far
as
this
particular
situation
is
concerned,
we
as
a
a
board
decided
prior
to
the
meeting
that
we
would
like
to
hear
from
you.
A
A
And
I've
just
got
to
say
if
you
can
say
what
you'd
like
to
say
in
less
than
three
minutes.
That'll
be
fine
too,
because
we
do
have
a
crowd
here.
In
order
to
expedite
that.
If
I
could
and-
and
I
hate
to
say
this
steve,
but
if
if
we
could
just
maybe
designate
these
these
first,
three
or
four
places
right
here,
if
you'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
be
the
first
speaker
we'll
open
this
public
comment
period
at
some
time
at
ten
minutes
after
six.
AB
A
AB
P
A
No,
may
I
please
say
that
these
are
rules
that
we
have
adopted
as
far
as
public
comment
are
is
concerned
and
we're
going
to
operate
under
those
rules
tonight
and
the
rule
is
if
eight
people
would
like
to
give
their
time
to
one
person
that
one
person
can
speak
for
up
to
10
minutes
if
they
would
like
to
now.
If
you
give
your
a,
if
you
give
your
time
personally
to
that
person,
then
you
have
given
your
time
to
that
person.
You
have.
A
You
have
given
up
your
time
to
come
to
the
mic
and
speak.
So
if
that's
what
you
would
like
to
do,
then
then
please
designate
that
and
we
will
make
sure
we
make
note,
perhaps
cathy
of
who
is
giving
up
their
their
time
to
for
the
10-minute
speech
now,
because
I
know
in
the
last
meeting.
No
that's
that
has
been.
That
has
been
our
rule.
Yes,
ma'am
it.
It
was
not
adopted.
Just
for
this
meeting,
that's
been
our
standing.
She.
AC
A
Y
A
A
AD
AD
It
was
just
fleetingly
mentioned,
but
there's
dead
air
time
on
the
other
on
all
three
channels,
there's
dead
air
time.
I
would
just
like
to
propose
that
somebody
gives
some
thought
to
combining
combining
is
happening
all
over
the
place
to
save
money.
Mandy
was
talking
about
doing
it
with
her
her
whole
department
and
how
much
money
it
saved.
A
A
AE
AE
A
A
AE
AE
AE
Again,
my
name
is
bob
horn.
I
live
in
leicester
and
the
vice
president
of
western
north
carolina
community
media
center.
I
want
to
thank
john
howe
for
his
presentation.
I
was
very
informative,
but
I'd
also
like
to
give
you
some
observations
that
you
might
want
to
consider
in
your
decision
right
now.
I
have
this
one
right
here.
It
talks
about
community
use.
If
you
have
that
present.
AE
This
basically
shows
the
total
equipment
used
in
hours
over
the
years
from
2007,
and
we
estimated
for
2011.
for
quarter
one
and
quarter
two
and
quarter
three,
and
you
can
see
it's
been
a
steady
climb.
We
start
out
at
177.5
943
hours
and
we're
up
to
409
thousand,
so
we
do
have
tremendous
community
use
of
our
station
of
citizens
coming
forward,
producing
programs
for
their
fellow
citizens
in
the
community
also
the
next
graph.
We
just
flip
it
over
this
graph
here.
The
value
to
community
talks
about
the
value
in
dollars.
AE
AE
Okay,
now,
in
2007,
before
2007,
we
had
franchise
fees
which
we
collected
from
the
cable
company
here,
charter
cable,
but
since
2007
the
the
state
has
taken
over
that
and
and
centralized
it
into
the
in
into
the
for
north
carolina
and
what
they
have
done
is
some
people
say
that
the
state
threw
us
under
the
bust
bus.
We
actually
they're
our
best
friends
from
the
standpoint
of
public
access
and
we'll
demonstrate
that
here
shortly
the
cable
company
revenue
received
by
buncombe
county
from
2005
to
2011..
AE
AE
Okay.
Now
what
this
does?
What
we
did?
We
looked
at
some
of
the
other
public
access
channels
in
the
state
and
we
took
buncombe
county
versus
mecklenburg,
that's
where
we
have
charlotte
and
their
funding
keeps
going
up
all
right,
2009,
2010,
2011
and
ours
is
going
down
and
we're
going.
Why,
and
I
think
the
problem
is
we
have
this
hang
up
on
the
supplemental
fees.
AE
AE
Now,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
address
our
contract,
our
contract
and
I'll
read
it
verbatim
with
the
with
the
county
says.
If
a
new
agreement
is
not
in
place
at
the
expiration
of
the
agreement,
which
was
february,
it
is
understood
by
the
county
and
the
contractor
urtv
or
the
western
north
carolina
community
media
center,
that
this
agreement
will
remain
in
place
until
such
until
such
time
as
a
new
agreement
is
signed
or
the
contractor
is
terminated.
AE
AE
AE
I
would
suggest
you
might
want
to
check
with
the
north
north
carolina
department
of
revenue
for
this
distribution
formula
and
see
how
the
money
is
supposed
to
be
distributed
now,
and
we
have
this
thing
called
peg
public,
educational
and
government
in
reality,
in
the
county,
we
only
have
two
that
were
certified
by
the
state.
It
was
public
access
and
a
government
channel.
AE
Now
again,
you
know
we're
pretty
passionate
about
what
we
do
at
public
access
and
we
do
definitely
believe
in
freedom
of
expression,
especially
in
the
area
like,
if
you
don't
believe
in
freedom
of
expression,
free
people,
you
despise
you
don't
believe
in
freedom
of
expression
and
that's
where
we're
coming
from.
Also,
there
was
some
talk
by
mr
howell
that
you
know
we
could
go
out
and
get
advertisers
to
support
us
and
that
kind
of
defeats
the
whole
purpose
of
public
expression.
AE
As
you
see
in
the
media,
we
can't
even
get
access
because
in
the
beginning,
1937
fcc
came
about
the
airwaves
belong
to
us.
The
citizens-
and
this
is
the
only
channel
that
we
have-
and
I
I
north
carolina
got
it.
The
state
of
north
carolina
got
it
from
the
standpoint
of
funding
us,
so
we
can
keep
moving
on
and
be
a
progressive
and
expanding
our
community
of
citizens
to
be
getting
involved
like
tonight.
You
talked
about
people
coming
in
giving
a
presentation.
You
mentioned
one
lady,
but
I
wish
everybody
could
hear
this.
AE
Now
I
wish
I
had
more
time
to
go
on
more
detail.
I
got
two
minutes
left,
but
a
lot
of
us
think
we
just
broadcast
them
on
tv.
In
reality,
we
stream
our
video
onto
the
internet.
We
also
have
a
radio
station
that
streams
onto
the
internet.
We
call
it
ur
radio
and
we
also
had
a
couple
of
people.
I
think
producers
that
actually
simulcast
on
the
tv
and
through
radio
simultaneously
also
we
realized
with
the
technology
we
have
in
the
area.
AE
We
can
do
live
broadcasts,
so
we
can
actually
go
out
into
the
community,
talk
to
people
and
actually
have
it
appear
on
our
channel,
so
we're
very
progressive
in
the
country
and
a
lot
of
people.
Don't
know
that
and
if
you
go
on
the
website,
go
to
urtv.org
and
or
go
to
wnc
cmc
and
you
have
access
to
I'm
sorry.
Wnccmc.Com.
D
Well,
actually,
I
do
have
a
couple
quick
questions,
so
I
mean
I
was
one
of
the
ones
that
were
probably
the
most
vocal
about.
If
you
know
feeling
really
good,
you
know
voting
for
y'all
to
be
a
non-profit.
You
know
years
ago
and
whatnot,
and
I
don't
know
exactly
how
I
phrased
it
back
in
july,
but
basically
my
charge
was.
We
will
support
you
as
you
go
forward
to
be
more
self-sustaining,
so
I
would
be
curious
about
what
that,
how
you
have
looked
into
ideas
to
be
more
self-sustaining
and
ultimately
self-sustaining.
D
AE
Have
services
we
offer
the
community
for
like
training
programs,
we
also
duplicate
tapes,
those
kind
of
things,
but
we
have
to
be
careful
as
a
public
access
station
because
we
cannot
be
commercial
and
we
can.
From
the
standpoint,
we
compromise
compromise
our
freedom
of
speech,
because,
all
of
a
sudden
now
we're
speaking
from
a
point
of
well
gee,
I've
got
to
be
careful.
I
might
lose
my
sponsor
and
that's
not
the
intention
of
public
access.
It's
a
totally
different
animal.
D
D
So
I
guess
you
know,
and
I'm
friends
with
a
lot
of
people
in
this
room
and
really
respect
your
commitment
to
this,
but
I'm
not
very
moved
at
this
point
to
feel
like
that
that
y'all
done
the
heavy
lifting
to
to
find
to
to
to
get
that
deficit.
Not
well
not
deficits,
not
the
right
word.
The
gap
in
service
is
down.
I
mean
I
would
be
a
lot
more
interested
in
thinking
about
different
ways
to
do
this,
but
I'm
just
not
I'm
just
not
hearing
it.
Yeah.
D
You
know
and
we
can
provide
you
information
comes
to
me.
Let
me
just
say
where
I'm
coming
from
really
quick
and
then
I'll.
Let
everybody
else
hear,
because
I
get
to
talk
all
the
time
right.
I
got
the
microphone,
I
got
the
things,
but
is
that
I
think
we're
all
having
to
learn
how
to
be
in
a
new
world
and
I
think,
we're
all
having
to
find
new
and
creative
and
push
our
boundaries
in
whatever
world
we're
in
I
know
I
know
I
experienced
this
in
this
seat.
D
I
know
I
experienced
this
in
my
work
seat.
I
don't
experience
it
at
home.
So
maybe
I
misunderstand
public
access,
but
I
would
think
it'd
be
more
important,
is
to
to
kind
of
get
off
the
dime
and
try
to
re
redis
open
up
some
opportunities
to
think
differently.
Enough
said-
and
I
probably
editorialized
it
more
than
I
when
I
should
have-
and
I
knew
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
keep
quiet
very
long
so
but
anyway,
so
I
apologize
it's
the
public's
time
and
I'm
I'm.
L
D
A
M
M
M
M
You
heard
mr
horn
here
I'm
just
amazed.
Basically
what
I
heard
him
say
he
wants
money,
but
he
has
not
worked.
Your
tv
as
a
whole
has
not
collaborated
throughout
the
community.
Mr
howe,
I
think
brought
it
up.
That
should
collaborate
with
some
non-profits,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
happened,
haven't
seen
it.
M
M
They
had
to
come
up
here
and
re-sign
the
resolution
of
the
agreement
to
be
complied
to
open
board
meeting
laws.
They
had
a
problem
with
that
robin
cape
over
to
sit
at
the
time
was
a
liaison.
They
asked
her
not
to
even
be
in
the
meeting.
That's
that's
on
youtube.
If
you
care
to
look
at
that
her
remarks,
one
thing
that
the
board
we
were
not
aware
of
was
the
offer
of
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
the
table
to
receive
more
money.
M
If
we
just
did
more
programming
board
members
were
never
aware
of
that
information.
You
cannot
tell
me
that
people
could
not
sit
down
and
figure
out
how
to
add
more
programming,
there's
ways
of
doing
live
streams.
There's
many
opportunities.
Mr
horn
is
totally
wrong
and
it's
a
shame
that
the
director's
not
here
if
you'll,
remember
each
time
we
have
a
meeting
the
director
never
comes
here.
M
A
Thank
you
next
and
may
I,
if
you're
going
to
speak,
please
we're
going
to.
We
have
seats
here
in
the
front
and
you
just
get
in
line
and
may
I
also
say
I
think
it's
really
important
if
someone's
speaking
that
you
not
have
a
reaction
from
the
audience.
Thank
you,
sir.
If
you
would
move
to
the
mic,
I
appreciate
it.
A
AF
AF
I
can
guarantee
you
that
we
are
probably
number
one
in
the
state
of
north
carolina.
You
are
tv
western
north
carolina
community
media
center
is
a
feather
in
your
house
cab
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
serve
there.
I've
been
there
since
I
came
to
buncombe
county
in
2002
to
go
to
unc
asheville.
AF
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
pay
back
asheville
and
buncombe
county
for
what
I
learned
and
gained
here
and
grew
as
a
person
to
be
able
to
serve
this
community
of
producers
that
sit
before
you
has
been
a
a
honor
that
I
will
take
with
me
for
the
rest
of
my
life.
I
don't
really
want
to
speak
to
anything
other
than
you.
You
had
a
couple
of
questions
about
how
we
raise
our
own
money.
AF
AF
A
AG
AG
I
produced
a
show
at
local
access
television
originally
in
santa
barbara
california,
I'm
from
texas,
but
I
did
live
in
santa
barbara
and
santa
barbara
county
and
city
are
within
a
few
hundred
people
of
being
the
exact
same
size
and
population
of
asheville's
area.
Here
their
local
access
station
runs
on
about
632
thousand
dollars
a
year.
They
think
they're
bootstrapping
it
that
is
from
support
from
the
county
and
the
city.
AG
Very
briefly,
the
whole
reason
there
are
thousands
of
local
access
stations
all
over
the
country
is
because
there
are
many,
many
more
times
commercial
stations
in
every
single
community
in
our
country
and
the
world.
Those
are
all
input
input.
None
of
them
are
a
local
access
station
for
an
everyday
person
and,
as
I
was
sitting
there
and
I
looked
up
because
I
love
these
mountains
and
I
looked
up
and
I
saw
people
to
match
our
mountains.
AG
This
is
the
only
local
station
and
chance
for
our
people
here
in
the
mountains,
to
have
their
voice
be
heard
and
really
do
original
shows,
and
you
know,
appalachian
anything
that
is
real
mountain
people,
but
we
need
the
city
and
county
support.
We
don't
need
a
labyrinthine
discussion
of
numbers.
We
need
clear,
look
at
how
it's
being
distributed
and
realize
one
thing:
it
strengthens
the
fabric
of
our
community
to
have
a
community
media
center
because
it
builds
community
media
literacy
as
we
are
watching.
AG
The
entire
world
is
changing
for
the
good
when
individuals
have
access
to
media.
The
western
north
carolina
community
media
center
is
that
local
access,
so
we've
got
to
support
it
and
give
it
a
lot
more
money
to
run
on
about
12
000
years,
a
complete
joke,
and
I'm
I'm
appalled
at
the
the
number.
But
I
I
would
ask
for
support
and
be
grateful
for
support
but
realize
it
takes
support
and
it
enriches
this
very
fabric
of
the
whole
thing
we
stand
for
in
buncombe
county.
So
I
would.
AG
A
AH
I'm
davine
dial
former
board
member
of
urtv,
I'm
very
happy
that
ms
jones
suggested
heavy
lifting.
I
think
that
in
this
day
and
time
heavy
lifting
is
something
is
the
first
thing
that
we
should.
We
should
be
considering
I
I
am
going
to
quote
a
couple
of
quotes
from
a
letter.
I
got
from
david
gant
a
year
a
year,
almost
a
year
ago,
the
after
the
last
june
meetings
and
I'm
going
to
be
passing
these
out
to
count
to
the
commissioners
and
probably
this
county
manager
and
probably
the
press
david
gann.
AH
Rudimentary
look
at
some
of
the
financial
records
which
will
be
passed
out
by
someone
else,
and
it
was
by
it
was
done
by
foster
shriner
in
the
in
the
in
the
course
of
looking
into
some
of
the
issues.
Mr
schreiner
interviewed
mr
flora
and
mr
flora
did
admit
that
in
fact
he
did
not
do
an
audit
of
urtv,
even
though
it
was
reported
that
that
he
did
in
april
of
09.
AH
Putting
our
minds
together
to
figure
out
what
we
could
do
to
build
up,
communicate
community
relationships,
ways
to
endure
public
access
to
the
community
and
ways
to
bring
in
support.
That
would
ensure
our
long-term
viability,
because
we've
known
four
or
five
years
down
the
road
that
this
day
is
coming,
and
we
should
have
been
as
the
board
discussing
those
things
every
two
weeks
and
what
we
could
do
to
make
our
public
access
viable.
A
W
W
H
A
H
I
want
to
mention
one
thing
that
occurred
to
me.
As
I
was
listening
to
people
talk.
These
are
volunteers
running
you
are
tv.
I
mean
I
hear
criticism
of
the
operations,
but
remember
that
we're
all
amateurs
we
had
to
learn
how
to
operate
cameras
and
how
to
put
together
shows-
and
we
shouldn't
be
held
to
the
same
standards
as
wlos
or
any
other
commercial
television
station.
I
have
a
few
remarks
that
I'd
like
to
make
and
I've
added
to
them.
H
Hopefully
I
can
fit
them
in,
but
my
main
speech
was
free
speech
is
in
trouble
in
this
country
and
in
in
this
context
I
want
to
talk
about
wr,
our
ur
tv.
On
the
one
hand,
we
have
the
supreme
court
decreeing
that
money
is
speech
entitled
to
the
first
amendment
protection,
and
that
is
good
news
for
corporations
in
the
wealthy.
H
H
H
H
A
C
What
is
the
electronic
soap
box
that
my
husband
just
referred
to
you
know.
Congress
has
taken
a
look
at
television
at
access
at
these
agreements
and
has
said
that
we
need
public
access
because
we
need
to
be
able
to
hear
the
individual
voice.
Now
I
don't
like
every
voice
that
I
hear,
but
then
I
don't
like
very
many
voices
that
I
hear
on
regular
television.
I
C
We
all
have
an
equal
time
and
an
equal
effort
to
put
forth
now.
We
don't
have
equal
talents,
perhaps
or
equal
skills,
you
know
or
equal
topics,
but
we
all
have
an
opportunity
to
make
our
voices
heard
now.
Actually
I
don't
know
most
of
you.
I
know
you
holly,
I
don't
know,
I
don't
even
know
everybody's
name
in
this
room
who's
getting
to
vote
on
this
important
issue,
and
I
feel
saddened
by
that.
I
personally
am
on
the
planning
and
zoning
board
up
in
woodfin.
C
C
I
hope
you
take
a
breath
and
realize
how
important
you
are
to
us
and
that
we
are
all
voters
every
single
one
of
us
here
is
a
voter
and
we
not
only
vote
at
the
ballot
box,
but
in
a
way
we're
voting
by
having
a
say
on
our
television
station,
and
I
can
say
our,
although
we
don't
get
paid
obviously,
but
and
and
do
watch
all
the
shows
at
least
a
little
bit.
Okay,
thank.
A
AI
Yes,
ma'am
good
evening,
my
name
is
dale
joyner
and
I'm
a
board
member
at
ur
tv
you
on
tv,
we
have
not
had
the
amount
of
money
to
where
it's
been.
Mis
appropriated
I've
been
hearing
that
management
misappropriated
funds.
If
you
read
the
chart,
we
have
not
received
money
that
will
be,
we
haven't
received
it,
so
that
needs
to
stop
there
period
and
we
have
been
properly
audited.
AI
You
can
check
that
out
and
we
are
properly
managed
by
a
woman.
That's
managed
public
access
for
20
years
to
where
it
has
affected
her
health
managing
under
such
pressure
of
not
I'm,
I'm
sure.
If
you
weren't
paid
the
amount
of
money
that
you
need
in
order
to
manage
your
household,
it
would
affect
your
health,
I'm
sure
it
would.
If
you
didn't
get
your
proper
check
holly,
it
would
affect
your
your
health,
wouldn't
it
well.
This
is
what's
happening
with
ur
tv.
AI
AJ
Troy
hornberger
member
of
buncombe
county,
it's
nice
to
speak
at
the
merits
of
how
everything
works
and
how
wonderful
it
is.
It's
nice
to
criticize
people
and
scrutinize
and
pass
judgment,
but
I
think
the
real
issue
here
is
the
issue
and
it's
money
and
then
the
real
issue
with
the
money
issue
is
the
law
so
where's
the
law.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
just
pass
with
quickly
some
evidence
here.
AJ
This
is
richard
jones
directed
me
to
this
member
of
the
state
department
and
if
you
look
at
the
far
right
hand,
side
the
whole
line
says
buncombe
county
two
certified
channels.
That's
bc
tv!
You
are
tv
in
those
two
channels,
there's
a
supplemental
fee,
that's
the
eight
six,
nine
five!
Eight
thousand!
You
know-
and
this
is
per
quarter
far
right
hand
corner
far
corner
here-
is
the
total
distribution.
AJ
So
richard
jones
quoted
me
and
said
yes,
three
hundred
ninety
four
thousand
dollars
and
some
odd
dollars
there
per
quarter
is
released
from
the
state
department
to
buncombe
county.
He
confirmed
it
so
that's
times,
four
equals
that
amount
of
money.
Now
wanda
jones
or
wanna
green
said
hey.
We
need
to
look
at
the
budget
and
give
you
some
other
numbers
in
that
figure.
It's
been
a
month.
She
has
yet
to
produce
anything
I've.
AJ
If
you
look
then
at
this
next
group
of
papers
here,
so
we
have
money
that
is
obviously
there
according
to
state
department
beyond
the
supplemental
fee,
because
supplemental
is
just
what
it
sounds
like
it's
been
talked
about
before
we
have
another
law
here
and
if
you
look
at
what's
been
circled
d
and
e,
the
law,
it's
not
as
clear,
never
quite
too
clear,
but
the
use
of
proceeds
a
county
or
city
that
imposed
subscriber
fees
during
the
first
six
months
of
o607,
which
you
are
tv,
did
get
subscriber
fees.
It
was
a
certified
channel.
AJ
One
of
those
two
certified
channels
that
it
should
the
amounts
of
funds
that
must
be
used
for
paycheck
operation
to
support.
O607
is
two
times
that
amount,
because
that
was
only
a
six
month
period.
So
two
times
an
amount
makes
the
full
year's
funding
and
that
it
must
be
imposed
amongst
the
funds
that
must
be
imposed
for
peg
channel
operation.
Support
in
subsequent
fiscal
years
is
the
same
proportionate
amount
of
the
funds
that
were
distributed
under
section
c
and
d
for
the
fiscal
year
of
0.607.
AJ
So
this
law
states
that
0.607
funding
needs
to
be
obtained
and
still
upheld.
Due
to
this
statute,
put
down
by
the
state
department
and
again,
the
state
department
qualified
the
money
is
there
and
the
final
legality
of
the
matter
is
the
contract
that
this
city
still
has
existing,
that
it
was
never
publicly
voted
down
unless
it's
been
two
terms
passed
that
this
contract
still
does
exist.
So
I
have
two
legal
matters
that
are
not
settled
up:
they
need
to
be
settled
up,
but
beyond
all
the
scrutinizing
and
whatevering
it's
the
law.
G
E
E
E
Members
of
the
board
that
made
those
kind
of
observations
were
removed
from
the
board
and
members.
I
was
a
member
and
I
I
knew
about
the
chance
of
being
able
to
put
enough
programming
on
the
air
to
increase
our
income,
and
I
I
personally
produced
five
hours
of
program
in
a
week
working
toward
that
I
was
suspended
and
our
first,
our
first
member
elected
board
member,
was
peter
bresny.
E
The
board
members
I
saw
and
myself
we
were
strong-armed
out
of
there
and
you
only
get
enough
feel
of
the
strong
arm
that
the
place
is
being
run
by.
So
that
being
said,
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
continue
that
we
can
have
public
access.
Could
we
have
a
more
volunteer
situation,
and
could
we
find
a
group
of
people
who
would
be
willing
to
work
whose
heart
was
in
it
enough
to
make
them
really
want
to
work
under
the
budget
that
was
provided
for
them,
instead
of
being
just
there
for
the
money?
E
Z
AK
AK
Media
is
so
we
need
public
media.
I
just
want
to
say
that
these
figures
here,
the
cable
company
revenue
received
by
buncombe
county
in
2011,
was
1
million
524
dollars
and
a
little
more
than
that
and
buncombe
county
wants
to
give.
You
are
tv
14
little
over
14
000
of
that,
and
that
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
at
all.
AK
I
just
hope
that
y'all
really
will
look
at
these
figures.
I
mean
they're,
quite
amazing.
It's
a
shame
that
bob
didn't
get
to
put
his
powerpoint
thing
well
anyway,
I
am
nervous.
Excuse
me,
but
my
show
I've
had
people
come
up,
strangers
come
up
and
give
me
a
hug,
and
thank
me
for
my
show
and
my
show
the
last
two
weeks
it
hasn't
aired.
My
current
shows
haven't
aired
because
the
equipment
is
getting
so
old.
AK
It's
not
it's
malfunctioning.
Now
it's
not
really
functioning
as
smoothly
as
it
has,
and
I
asked
jonathan
about
that
and
he
said
that
this
equipment
is
has
a
lifespan
of
five
years.
Well,
it's
already
been
being
used
for
six
years
and
it's
over
a
million
hours
of
use.
I
think
in
a
year
and
as
far
as
I've
only
been
in
the
2011,
I
mean
2010
one
year,
I've
only
been
with
your
tv
and
the
staff
has
been.
I
think,
phenomenal
I'd
see
nothing.
AK
They
are
nothing
but
tremendously
helpful
and
they
go
beyond
surely
beyond
what
they're
required
to
do
to
be
helpful
to
everyone.
So
I
don't
understand
all
this.
I
don't
see
anything
inappropriate.
Of
course,
I'm
not
a
member
of
the
board,
but
I
just
want
to
say
public
access
is
vitally
important
to
a
community.
Oh
there's,
one
more
thing
I
want
to
say,
and
that
is
that
I
I'm
a
client,
a
customer
of
charter
cable
and
the
only
place
on
tv,
and
I
do
like
to
get
my
news
on
tv.
S
High
school
thanks
for
asking-
and
I
hope
you
all
are
all
well
today-
I've
heard
a
lot
of
numbers
start
around
here
this
afternoon.
Have
we
and
it
be
confusing
for
just
about
donald
trump,
to
figure
it
out?
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
just
go
with
this
information
package
that
I
had
in
my
head,
the
law
and
the
provision
he
mentioned
a
while
ago
about
equal
proportions
among
the
two
stations.
S
I
do
believe
the
money
has
been
wiggled
and
jiggled
in
some
general
fund
that
it
shouldn't
be
in
these
monies
are
specifically
designed
for
these
programs
and
not
to
go
to
the
school
welfare
of
this
or
the
the
food
stamp
that
or
whatever
it's
designed
for
these
stations,
and
I
would
say
that
control
and
responsibility
of
that,
whether
you
all
like
to
admit
or
not
lies
with
you
and
whoever
your
dispersion
agent
is
acting
on
your
stead.
Now,
we've
not
been
getting
the
money
and
it
ain't,
no
one
or
two
places
fixing
the
shutdown.
S
As
you
were
hearing
some
of
the
equipment
issues
this
mr
hal,
wherever
he
went,
he
mentioned
that
there
was
three
funding
sources
and
I
want
to
know
the
total
of
all
three
of
those
and
how
come
we're
not
getting
our
money
now
short
of
being
really
bad
talking
about
misappropriation
of
funds
in
here
and
getting
real
nasty,
I
won't,
but
answers
need
to
be
had
and
they
need
to
be
had
soon
we're
closing
it.
This
month,
at
your
station,
my
station,
all
these
folks
are
stationed,
I'd
appreciate,
y'all
getting
on
top
of
it.
A
AL
AL
The
point
here
is
you've
got
a
public
access
which
is
based
on
the
first
amendment
of
the
u.s
constitution
and
freedom
of
speech.
You
have
to
keep
this
separated
between
as
an
example
of
church
and
state.
You
have
to
keep
government
channels
separate
from
public
access
channel
for
the
rights
of
freedom
of
speech.
AL
This
is
a
local
dynamic
resource.
That
is
an
impact
all
the
way
up
to
the
very
top
of
this
government.
In
regards
to
civil
liberties,
we
have
gone
through
the
past
in
recognizing
that
the
freedom
of
speech
and
the
ability
of
the
american
population
to
be
able
to
speak
locally
as
well
as
now
globally,
to
have
the
capacity
to
offset
commercialized
program
which
sets
up
and
creates
limited
points
of
view
just
by
the
bureaucracy
of
the
nature.
AL
AL
AM
AL
Public
access,
you
have
education
and
you
have
government,
you
have
two
of
those
fulfilled
by
your
declarations.
Besides
a
contract
issue,
you
have
an
issue
here
for
the
people
by
the
people,
in
this
case
with
the
people.
If
you
take
this
away,
what
is
the
purpose
of
taxpayers
money
if
you're
not
bringing
it
back
to
support
such
a
process
with
the
people
under
the
united
states
constitutional
rights?
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
AN
Hi,
my
name
is
luella
whitmeier
and
I
live
here
in
asheville
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
this
time.
I
can
speak,
and
I
want
to
say
this
when
I
think
of
url
tv,
I
think
of
myself
as
a
ceo
of
my
own
company
and
what
I
mean
by
a
ceo
of
my
own
company,
I'm
coming
to
your
tv
and
I'm
saying
I
have
a
vision.
AN
I
have
a
plan
that
can
help
asheville
and
when
I
came
with
this
plan
I
started
an
investment
that
means
time,
preparation
and
each
week
I
start
up
with
drawing
like
benefits
from
them.
I
can
use
their
lights,
I
can
use
their
water,
I
can
use
their
equipment.
I
can
use
all
this,
and
this
is
a
business
woman,
I'm
a
businesswoman
and
when
I
say
I'm
a
businesswoman
I
mean
you
are
a
tv
brought
me
to
a
place
where
I
can
get
benefits
that
same
benefits,
I'm
going
to
turn
around
and
invest
into
the
community.
AN
I
see
on
your
side.
You
say
people
to
match
our
mountains,
I'm
here
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
people
in
the
mountains.
When
I
invest,
I
invest
in
buying
clothes,
I
invest
in
cds,
I
invest
in
dvds.
I
invest
in
tools
to
make
it
happen,
and
in
this
I'm
making
a
show
to
meet
the
people's
needs.
Then
I'm
thinking
about
the
guests
and
the
talents
that
I
bring
to
url
tv.
I
think
about
the
supplies
that
it
takes
to
run
this
show
and
to
make
it
happen.
AN
Now,
in
all
what
I'm
saying
and
all
is
this
I
give
back
to
the
community.
I
go
to
my
supplier.
Get
my
cds
get
my
dvds
tax
money
back
into
the
community.
I
buy
clothes
I
buy.
Whatever
is
needed
to
make.
This
show
happen.
I
buy
gas,
I
what
I'm
doing
is
impacting
or
push
putting
back
in
the
community
what
they
have
given
me
a
chance
to
come
into
their
home.
If
you
are
a
tv,
this
is
helping
me
to
help
people
that
I
may
never
meet
because
of
the
vision
and
the
plan.
AN
AM
AM
So
I
found
it
a
very
pleasant
experience
and
all
the
staff
really
helped
me
and,
like
someone
else
said
they
go
beyond
what
they
need
to
to
help
you
out.
So
I
basically
just
wanted
to
talk
about
how
I
feel
this
station
is
important
to
the
community
here.
It
provides
educational
aspects
for
young
students
and
people,
young
students,
old
students,
people
anybody
that
wants
to
go
in
and
learn
how
to
do
programs
and
put
them
on
tv.
I
think
that's
very
valuable
in
doing
that.
AM
First
program
I
did
was
a
nine
minute
program,
educational
and
I
got
responses
from
people
in
four
different
countries
in
europe
and
one
in
australia.
Well,
australia
was
the
fifth
country,
and
then
I
got
some
response
from
the
community
locally,
so
it
reaches
far
beyond
just
this
community
because
of
the
fact
that
they
stream
it
over
the
internet
and
that
provides
a
window
to
people
outside
of
the
area
to
see
how
great
a
place
ashfield
is,
and
they
might
be,
tourists
that
want
to
come
here
and
visit.
AM
I
Hi,
thank
you.
For
the
time
my
name
is
pete
blackshaw
and
I
moved
to
asheville
three
years
ago.
I
currently
work
for
a
large
corporation
based
here
in
buncombe
county
as
well
as
a
non-profit
that
I
started
here
in
buncombe
county
there's
two
points
I
just
want
to
touch
on
and
the
first
has
to
do
with
the
freedom
of
the
speech,
and
I
think
this
quote
will
say
it
better
than
I
can
say
it,
and
the
quote
goes.
I
The
second
part.
The
second
thing
I
want
to
just
talk
about
is
the
uniqueness
of
you
are
tv
and
let's,
let's
face
it.
Let's
be
honest.
There
are
some
very
unusual
and
different
programs
on
your
tv
and,
if
I'm
sitting
in
your
position,
depending
on
our
backgrounds,
you
may
agree-
or
I
may
agree
or
disagree
with
some
of
the
programming.
I
I
I
I
I
have
people
that
come
and
visit
and
support
the
show
and
your
tv
is
just
an
extension
of
the
atmosphere
that
is
in
asheville,
including
a
lot
of
freedom.
Now
granted
freedom
comes
with
a
price
and
freedom
that
I
want
means
I
have
to
in
in
in
reciprocity,
give
that
same
freedom
to
someone
else
that
I
may
not
agree
with
their
style
of
freedom,
but
from
a
financial
standpoint,
and
my
background
is
sales
and
marketing.
I
I
People
still
flock
to
that
city
because
of
what
happened
in
1969,
because
that
city
is
still
very
unique
and
a
little
bit
quirky
and
unusual
and
tourists
flock
there.
For
that
reason.
Years
and
years
later,
that's
a
big
component
when,
when
a
tourist
comes
to
asheville,
it's
a
big
attraction,
and
I
just
want
to
bring
that
up
thanks.
Thank
you.
AO
AO
AO
AO
Your
tv
has
been
a
springboard
for
a
lot
of
people
to
do
a
lot
of
great
things
and
something
that
I
would
ask
you
to
just
consider
bear
in
mind
every
time
this
happens
because
you
know
sometimes
something
happens
with
your
tv
as
a
topic
of
discussion,
whether
it
be
this
room
or
it
be
city
council,
we
tend
to
get
a
lot
of
people
out.
You
know.
We
all
know
that
every
time
this
happens,
you'll
find
there
are
new
faces.
AO
You
have
not
seen
previously
that
are
here
to
support
you
our
tv
every
time
somebody
new
shows
up
in
support
of
ur
tv
because
it
means
something
to
community
and
it
means
something
to
them,
and
it
is
a
value
to
the
community
and
in
terms
of
it
being
out
there
in
terms
of
having
impact
one
real,
quick,
true
story.
I
was
on
a
flight
back
in
december
from
hartford
connecticut
to
detroit
and
the
guy
sitting.
AO
Y
My
name
is
lisa
landis
and
I've
been
a
producer
at
ur
tv
for
three
and
a
half
years,
and
I
have
actively
tried
to
find
sponsors
for
my
shows
for
three
and
a
half
years.
I
was
planning
on
giving
up
after
a
year
because
I
couldn't
keep
doing
it
because
it
costs
it
costs
a
lot
of
money
in
order
to
to
come
to
the
studio
for
the
tapes.
For
this.
Y
For
that-
and
I
kept
saying
I
can't
do
it
anymore
and
somehow
I
kept
getting
pushed
forward,
and
then
I
found
out
that
it's
not
all
about
me.
It's
not
about
me.
It's
the
information
that
I
have
that
I'm
not
hearing
anywhere
else,
I'm
not
hearing
it
on
on
on
any
national
media,
and-
and
I
love
what
I
do
so
much-
that
I've
been
homeless
for
two
years.
So
I
can
continue
to
do
what
I
do.
Y
I
really
hate
when
I
hear
people
who
you
know
there
was
a
parable
in
the
bible
and
it
talked
about
the
two
mothers
and
the
one
child
and
how
the
one
mother
would
tear
apart
a
child,
how
a
mother
would
tear
apart
a
child
in
half.
Just
just
you
know,
honestly,
you
know
it's
really
really
sad
that
you
have
people
who
would
like
to
tear
apart
the
studio
so
that
they
can
profit
by
having
their
own
studio.
Y
You
know
it's!
It's
really
disheartening
and
it's
disheartening
for
for
hearing
oh
well,
go
and
find
funding.
Well,
how
in
the
mothers
can
you
find
funding
when
everybody
is
talking
about
how
bad
or
it's
going
to
be
shut
down
or
this
or
that
you
know
all
this
negative
stuff?
I've
been
busting
my
butt?
It's
not
about
me!
It's
the
information
that
the
people
have
that
the
rest
of
the
world
needs.
You
might
not
understand
it.
Y
You
might
not
like
what
we
have
to
say,
but
that's
our
first
amendment,
not
just
our
first
amendment
but
our
14th
amendment.
You
know,
don't
deny
us
our
rights,
you
know,
that's,
what's
been
going
on
and
I'd
really
like
to
know
the
personal
relationship
between
we
won't
have
any.
We.
We
couldn't
ask
the
person,
a
relationship
between
wanda,
green
and
the
person
who
just
presented
this.
This.
Y
Y
A
Y
AP
I
know
that
there
are
many
people
who
don't
share
my
opinions
or,
for
that
matter,
the
opinions
of
my
colleagues,
but
this
is
not
just
a
matter
of
what
the
law
says
or
what
other
people
say
according
to
their
own
opinions.
This
is
a
matter
of
what
is
truth,
and
the
truth
is
this:
if
your
tv
vanishes,
then
everything
the
most
or
an
essential
part
of
what
is
in
our
community
will
also
permanently
vanish
or
disappear
for
some
time
and
allow
for
great
chaos
within
ourselves
and
within
the
community
to
happen.
AP
AB
My
name
is
david,
ireland.
I
live
in
downtown
asheville
and
I
am
a
producer.
You
are
tv
there's
one
thing:
I
need
to
be
clarified
if
possible.
During
the
last
time
we
were
here,
it
was
stated
that
raleigh
now
gets
the
money
from
the
tax
fees
for
cable
franchise
or
video
programming
whatever
that
might
be-
and
it
was
hinted
at
tonight.
AB
A
I
don't
understand
it.
I
appreciate
your
question:
if
you'll
leave
your
name
and
telephone
number
with
our
county
manager,
she
will.
Thank
you,
sir.
Yes,
now,
if
may
I
may
interrupt
you,
I
know
you
haven't
started
if
anyone
else
plans
to
speak.
If
you
would
please
come
to
the
front
row
here,
then
we
will
be
ready
for
you.
Yes,
ma'am.
A
AQ
AQ
AQ
I
just
know
that
when
the
fellow
over
there
was
speaking,
I
couldn't
keep
myself
awake.
I
was
falling
asleep
and
whatever
he
was
talking,
he
was
talking
about.
You
are
tv,
just
like
everybody
else
was
so.
I
had
no
reason
to
believe
that
he
was
any
different
from
anybody
else,
but
he
was,
he
was
just
passionate.
He
didn't
really
may.
AQ
AQ
The
way
that
I
feel
after
hearing
how
you
interjected,
when
when
the
audience
was,
was
you
know
like
my
voice
tonight,
my
only
voice
tonight
was
to
either
show
a
support
of
one
side
or
another,
but
you
acted
as
though
all
of
us
sitting
over
here
were
on
the
same
side
and
that
all
of
y'all-
or
maybe
you
maybe
you
feel
like
y'all-
are
on
the
same
side.
But
I
would
hope
that
each
of
you
would
have
your
own
individual
thoughts
and
perspectives.
AQ
AQ
I'm
just
saying
that
I
felt
really
disturbed
when,
when
my
clapping
and
my
applause
was
cut
off
and
when,
when
you
allow
for
the
public
to
have
a
voice
through
their
for
through
their
clapping,
and
you
want
to
hear
if
the
audience
is
in
support
of
that
or
not,
then
you
can
then
then
I'll
be
interested
in
coming
back
and
supporting
the
commissioner's
meeting.
But
right
now
I'm
really
disturbed
about
that.
A
AS
AS
Thank
you.
My
name
is
steve
holland
and
I
live
at
weaverville
and
I've
been
involved
with
public
access
television
for
over
18
years.
I
know
you've
heard
a
lot
of
numbers
tonight
and
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
not
going
to
hit
numbers
given
these
lean
financial
times
and
the
announcement
made
on
friday
that
the
western
north
carolina
community
media
center
will
close
its
doors
april
30th
unless
funding
is
immediately
forthcoming.
AS
This
is
an
opportune
time
for
you
to
make
a
thorough
review
of
pig
channel
operations
and
funding
in
asheville
and
buncombe
county,
with
the
very
real
possibility
that
the
current
contractor
will
close
their
doors
three
weeks
from
saturday.
It's
crucial.
The
work
begin
immediately
for
an
orderly
transition
which
allows
programs
to
continue
to
appear
on
public
access
channel
20.
AS
Therefore,
I
ask
that
at
your
next
commissioner's
meeting,
you
approve
the
creation
of
a
joint
peg
channel
review
task
force
with
the
city
of
asheville
and
that
peg
channel
task
force
could
be
with
six
members
under
the
joint
direction
of
the
commissioners
in
the
city
of
asheville.
Have
one
commissioner
and
one
county
staff
person,
one
asheville
city,
council,
member,
one
asheville
city
staff,
staff
person
and
also
two
members
of
the
public.
AS
Despite
the
problems
with
the
current
contractor,
there
is
great
potential
for
the
city
and
county
to
work
together
to
have
effective
and
efficient
paid
channels.
The
report
in
today's
citizen
times
about
the
county
and
city
exploring
opportunities
to
more
efficiently
manage
their
parks
and
recreation
department
is
a
good
example
of
the
potential
that
this
task
force
on
peg
channels
could
have
I'd,
be
happy
to
assist
in
any
way
that
I
can
to
see
that
public
access
channel
20
continues
as
a
valuable
community
resource.
AS
A
AT
I'm
mark
staley
live
in
asheville
and
I
like
to
hit
an
angle
that
the
others
have
not.
Other
people
have
not
pointed
out
public
access.
21
is
the
public
access
station
in
charlotte.
It
has
existed
for
at
least
17
years.
It
has
noticeably
more
funding,
it
has
noticeably
larger
facilities
than
urtv,
and
yet
it
has
noticeably
less
members
than
new
rtv.
It
has
noticeably
less
equipment
than
ur
tv,
such
as
only
one
editing
station
and
no
field
gear.
AT
It
also
does
noticeably
less
than
urtv.
It
produces,
produces
noticeably
less
programming.
It's
program
schedules
on
their
website,
and
when
you
look
at
it,
you
can
see
how
every
day
it
has
at
least
six
hours
of
no
programming.
The
shuttle
station
also
has
no
live
programs.
It
has
no
radio
station.
It
also
has
no
live
stream.
AT
Video
on
their
website.
In
obvious
contrast
to
that
to
the
charlotte
station,
urtv
has
existed
only
five
years.
Urtv
receives
noticeably
less
funding
than
the
charlotte
station.
The
urtv
has
noticeably
smaller
facilities,
and
yet
urtv
has
noticeably
more
members.
Ertv
has
noticeably
more
programming.
AT
We
have
hardly
any
blank
space
of
no
shows
each
day.
Urtv
has
at
least
eight
editing
stations
you
are
tv
does
have
field
gear
you
are
tv
does
broadcast
live
shows
you
are
tv,
does
have
a
live.
Video
stream
on
its
website,
people
all
over
the
country
and
all
over
the
world
watch
urtv
urtv
does
have
live
a
live
streaming.
Radio
station
called
ui
radio.
AT
AC
A
R
R
R
I
asked
for
a
copy
of
the
independent
audit
or
whatever
internal
audit
from
a
county.
I
never
received
that.
I
could
be
a
little
slipping
in
the
head,
but
when
I
read
this
audit
and
found
the
things
in
it,
that's
questionable
by
the
cp
that
did
this
on
a
limited
basis
and
wasn't
given
clear
access
to
everything
necessary.
R
It
was
appalling
to
me
if
a
cpa
has
smarts
enough
to
get
his
license
or
her
license,
and
you
see
that
they're
limited
to
what
they
can
access
to
me.
It
brings
into
question
what
else
is
involved
when
they
can
spend
money
for
starbucks
coffee
in
the
day
that
we
live
in.
I
have
to
go
other
places
and
get
my
coffee,
even
though
I
like
starbucks,
because
this
is
so
expensive.
R
R
R
You
have
got
an
incubator
right
here
in
this
audience
and
in
this
community
that
will
do
far
more
than
what
you've
got
at
the
inca
campus.
If
you'll
only
cultivate
it,
how
that
cultivation
might
look,
I
don't
know,
but
I
think
money
is
important
to
anything,
but
I
think
there's
some
great
minds
here.
That
can
do
some
great
things.
R
A
Well,
we've
we've
come
to
the
end
of
the
the
report
from
our
consultant,
and
we
have
heard
your
comments
loud
and
clear,
and
I
know
that
you,
you
understand
the
situation
that
we're
in
as
far
as
our
budget
process
is
concerned-
and
this
has
been
a
fact-finding
situation
here
today
and
we've
we've
heard
you
loud
and
clear,
and
we
appreciate
the
information
that
you
brought
to
us
our
consultant
and
also
our
the
folks
who
who
represent
urtv
and
we
will
move
on
to
the
next
order
of
business.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
F
A
A
D
A
A
D
A
F
A
Aye
nan
chase
is
appointed
current
vacancies
on
the
board.
We
have
one
vacancy
on
the
montreat
planning
and
zoning
board,
one
vacancy
on
the
montreat
board
of
adjustments,
one
vacancy
on
the
historics
resource
commission,
one
vacancy
on
the
county
planning
board.
That's
in
the
reynolds
district,
mr
attorney,
do
we
have
need
for
a
closed
session.
P
A
L
A
A
Okay,
I
think
our
tape
is,
I
think,
we're
reloaded
in
the
tape
department
and
we're
ready
for
public
comment.
Let
me
remind
the
audience
please
that
we
have
heard
public
comment
on
urtv,
so
we
will
not
at
this
point
in
time
entertain
any
more
public
comment
on
along.
That
line
may
also
remind
the
audience
that
public
comment
is
a
time
for
you
to
bring
to
the
board
of
commissioners
items
that
you
have
concerning
county
government.
A
AC
L
AR
AR
My
name
is
shirley
dozier.
I
live
on
montford
avenue
where
I
have
reside
since
since
1961
and
my
husband's
family's
been
there
since
1937..
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
and
the
other
two
that's
not
here
tonight,
for
for
turning
down
the
money
that
they
asked
for
the
hill
on
the
montford
avenue
than
them
hill
street.
You
they
ask
for
millions
of
dollars.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
turning
the
money
down,
because
I
do
not
want
to
give
any
money
to
that.
AR
AR
A
AR
AR
I
was
put
into
some
meetings
in
1994,
where
I
found
that
a
lot
of
the
tax
a
lot
of
the
tax
lots
on
the
hill
street
project.
There
were
tax
lots.
Maybe
we
should
find
out
exactly
where.
How
did
that
group
get
their
names
in
the
tax
lots
again
we're
going
to
find
out
it
called
stumptown.
The
village
of
stumptown
map
is
going
to
be
shown.
Those
are
tax
slots.
AR
Well,
2004,
we
were
sued
and
in
2005
some
of
our
renters
had
passed
away,
which
we
turned
the
water
on
in
our
name,
the
city
of
asheville
came
down
and
said,
since
you
were
a
student,
you
lost
in
your
lawsuit,
we're
turning
off
all
your
water
to
73
and
73
and
a
half
montford
avenue.
The
reason
I'm
coming
up
today
is
that
we
had
a
problem.
AR
The
first
of
january
and
my
water
bill
went
up
to
the
when
the
water
came
on
accidentally
into
one
of
those
houses
had
been
no
heat
in
and
it
caused
a
lot
of
damage
to
the
house,
and
I
had
to
pay
160
something
dollars
more
than
what
the
water
bill.
I
only
paid
the
base
for
the
meter
because
the
city
of
asheville
won't
turn
the
water
on
and
I
have
paid.
We
are
paid.
AR
A
No,
that's
quite
all
right.
I
understand
you
had
some
situations
you'd
like
to
clear
up.
Perhaps
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
discuss
with
city
management,
county
management.
But
yes,
ms
stone
will
take
your
contact
information
and
we
will.
We
will
see
that
you're
you
go
to
the
right
person
to
get
your
right
to
get
your
right
answer
and
we
appreciate
you
coming
this
afternoon.
Thank
you
very
much.
AC
I'm
david
king,
I'm
from
candler,
I'm
here
to
speak
on
the
bill
that
tim
moffat
has
put
forth
in
the
house.
I'm
sorry
that
chairman
gantz
not
here
this
evening,
but
he's
the
one
out
on
the
forefront
on
this
for
the
board.
But
I'd
like
to
address
some
of
his
issues
with
that
and
one
of
his
concerns
is
about.
AC
AC
AC
It's
the
independents
and
the
disenfranchised
democrats
who
have
put
those
people
in
the
legislature
and
that's
why
you're
seeing
these
changes
and
also
a
board
made
up
like
that,
will
enable
people
who
might
not
run
to
run
for
office
because
right
now,
it's
quite
daunting
to
try
to
put
together
a
campaign
put
together
enough
money.
As
you
well
know,
to
get
elected
to
county
commission,
and
if
the
concern
is
for
the
greater
good
of
all
county
residents,
then
I
would
think
that
the
board
would
be
interested
in
seeing
that
that
is
served.
AC
A
A
R
The
district
elections.
I
would
like
to
point
out
to
you
that
I
have
video
at
the
arboretum
where
the
county
commissioners
had
a
consultant
and
debated
the
issue
on
district
election.
So
if
you
think
about
consultants
in
the
future,
just
remember:
don't
pay
the
money
out,
save
you
money.
I've
got
it
on
video
and
you
don't
have
to
repeat
it.
So
I
can
save
you
some
money.
I've
got
the
videos.
AK
A
All
right,
I
know
it's
been
a
long
evening.
I
I
appreciate
everyone
hanging
in
there
I'd
like
to
announce
that
that
the
next
regular
meeting
of
the
board
of
commissioners
will
be
held
april.
The
19th
2011
beginning
at
4
30,
probably
not
ending
at
quarter
to
late,
but
we
never
know.
Commission
meetings
will
be
can
be
seen
on
bctv
charter,
cable,
channel
2
on
tuesday
and
thursdays
at
8
pm,
wednesdays
at
3
p.m
and
saturday
and
sunday
at
9
00
a.m
or
online
anytime,
buncombe
county
dot
org.
When.