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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Briefing (Sept. 7, 2021)
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Briefing of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for September 7, 2021. The purpose of the Briefing is to discuss future agenda items and for the Board to discuss County business with staff. No official actions take place during Briefings. To view agendas for future briefings you can visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
A
And
is
there
any
other
topic
that
anyone
would
like
to
have
some
discussion
about
at
the
briefing
meeting
today?
That's
not
already
on
the
published
agenda,
all
right,
then
this
will
be
our.
This
will
be
our
we'll
follow
this
agenda
for
the
meeting.
Are
there
any
questions
about
any
items
on
the
agenda
for
this
evening?.
B
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
thanks
for
having
me
today,
we
are
going
to
do
our
covet
update
and
just
just
some
reminders
that
we'll
go
over
the
current
coven
situation,
we'll
talk
about
our
vaccine
roll
out
and
then
what's
on
the
horizon,
I
did
want
to
start
first
with
our
epi
curve
and
give
some
updates
around
that
we
have.
There
have
been
twenty
three
thousand
one
total
cases
of
coveted
19
since
the
pandemic
started.
B
B
B
Percent
positivity
remains
high
as
well,
but
has
remained
below
10
percent.
For
the
last
two
weeks,
the
percent
positivity
has
stabilized
in
the
mid
9,
with
today's
value
being
9.6
percent
again,
while
stable
for
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
This
is
a
far
cry
from
levels
just
in
july
that
we're
well
below
the
desired
five
percent.
B
The
highest
rates
of
infection
remain
in
our
25
to
49
year
old
group.
However,
cases
in
our
school
age
population
has
increased
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
as
the
school
year
has
begun
and
on
this
particular
slide.
You'll
notice
that
the
green
at
the
bottom
is
the
0
to
17.
So
that's
our
school
age
group
and
they're,
showing
a
larger
proportion
of
cases
than
they
have
in
the
past
and
just
of
reference.
B
B
In
terms
of
regional
hospitalizations,
we
continue
to
see
high
levels
of
hospital
utilization
and,
as
I've
said
several
times
following
a
time
of
rapid
case
increases,
we
will
then
see
an
increase
in
hospitalizations.
Within
a
few
weeks
beginning
in
mid-july,
we
saw
a
rapid
increase
in
new
cases
coming
in,
which
was
then
followed
by
a
significant
increase
in
hospitalizations.
B
Unfortunately,
high
levels
of
cases
also
often
lead
to
high
levels
of
hospitalizations,
which
in
turn
typically
means
an
increase
in
deaths
as
well
and
while
not
at
the
levels
we
saw
in
january,
where
our
deaths
were
at
12
per
100
000
per
week.
Their
rate
of
death
has
increased
to
3.1
per
100
000
per
week
from
1.1
just
last
week,
hospitalizations
a
lagging
indicator
and
with
case
levels
still
really
high.
B
B
So,
before
moving
on
to
vaccination
rates,
our
weekly
metrics
have
been
updated
and
that's
what
you
see
in
front
of
you
now,
as
I
said
cases
continue
to
be
high.
This
indicator
remains
red,
indicating
high
transmission,
the
percent
positivity,
while
stable,
far
exceeds
the
desired
state
of
less
than
5
percent
and
remains
in
the
orange.
B
B
B
B
B
Additionally,
the
unvaccinated
have
a
risk
of
covid19
related
death
that
is
15
times,
that
of
their
vaccinated
counterparts,
and
I
just
want
to
repeat
that
15
times
more
likely
to
die
if
unvaccinated
so
again.
This
is
why
vaccination
is
so
very
important.
Currently
about
63
of
our
total
population
is
partially
vaccinated
and
just
about
60
percent
of
our
total
population
is
fully
vaccinated.
B
In
the
recent
weeks,
we
have
seen
a
slight
uptick
in
vaccination
administration
across
the
county
and
also
in
our
clinics.
Two
weeks
ago,
when
I
talked
to
you
all,
I
was
excited
to
see
the
first
glimpse
of
an
upward
swing
in
vaccination
and
standing
here
today.
It
appears
that
that
has
leveled
off
just
a
bit
and
though
our
clinic
saw
a
very
large
increase
last
week
that
I'll
talk
more
about
in
a
little
bit,
but
I
am
hopeful
that
we'll
see
another
upswing
as
vaccination
data
from
last
week
is
entered
and
added
as
well.
B
B
B
B
And
additionally,
you've
heard
me
talk
about
the
fema
vaccine
resource.
It
has
been
very
successful
in
providing
over
600
doses
of
vaccine
in
its
first
run
during
in
our
region,
and
currently
the
fema
team
is
deployed
to
another
region
in
the
state,
but
will
return,
I
believe,
to
our
area
in
october.
B
I
did
want
to
spend
a
moment
talking
about
the
buncombe
county,
hhs
vaccine
teams
and
other
community
partners
and
vaccine
providers
and
the
efforts
they've
put
into
equitable
distribution
of
vaccine
the
area
vaccine
providers
meet
regularly.
That
includes
the
public
public
health
department,
vaccine
operations,
fqhcs
community
health,
centers,
our
pharmacies,
many
other
vaccine
providers
to
create
plans
and
provide
vaccine
to
needed
areas,
and,
as
a
result
of
this
continued
partnership
between
providers
with
a
focus
on
equity,
we
have
reached
many
vulnerable
areas
by
sharing
information
and
spreading
vaccination
opportunities
amongst
all
the
partners.
B
B
B
To
close
out
the
vaccine
update,
we
have
seen
a
really
good
response
to
the
department
of
health
and
human
services
summer
incentive
program
prior
to
the
program.
We
were
administering
less
than
200
doses
per
week,
but
since
the
program
began,
we
are
averaging
400
doses
per
week
and
last
week
was
a
banner
week
where
almost
550
doses
were
administered
and
almost
310
of
those
were
first
doses.
So
that
was
incredible
to
see
this
morning
when
I,
when
the
numbers
were
pulled.
B
B
Individuals
must
self-attest
that
they
qualify
for
the
third
additional
dose
by
having
a
condition
or
taking
a
medication
that
causes
them
to
be
moderately
to
severely
immunocompromised
buncombe
county
hhs
can
administer
those
doses
at
our
walk-in
clinic
at
40
cox
and
at
mobile
outreach
events.
Additional
doses
can
be
secured
at
any
vaccine
provider
and
individuals
do
not
need
to
go
back
to
where
they
got
their
original
doses
to
receive
their
third
additional
dose.
B
Should
they
be
eligible
to
get
one
and
just
a
reminder
that
the
recommendation
does
not
include
individuals
who
receive
the
j
j
vaccine
at
this
time
so
before
turning
it
over
to
dr
hathaway,
I
wanted
to
also
remind
everyone
that,
if
you
are
experiencing
symptoms
of
covid19,
please
get
tested
and
isolate
right
away.
While
you
wait
for
your
results,
if
you
have
not
received
your
vaccine,
now
is
the
time
case.
Numbers
are
high,
transmission
remains
high.
Your
risk
of
illness,
hospitalization
and
even
death
is
far
greater.
B
If
you
are
unvaccinated,
don't
take
that
chance
with
your
health,
please
let
co,
please
don't
let
covet
19.
Take
control
of
you
and
I
I'll
end
with
vax
up
and
mask
up.
It
is
this
layered
approach
right
now
that
we
have
in
buncombe
county
that
will
help
us
control
and
manage
kova
19
and
reduce
your
risks
for
spreading
and
becoming
infected
with
covenanting.
A
C
B
So
I
do
expect
that
we
will
continue
to
see
more.
You
know
those
cases
in
in
children.
Many
of
those
the
exposure
is
likely
to
be
outside
of
the
classroom
and
as
they're
coming
back
into
the
classroom.
So
the
big
thing
to
remember
for
families
and
caregivers
is
that,
when
outside
of
the
classroom-
and
that
means,
when
you're
in
extracurricular
activities
sports
out
with
your
family
in
your
neighborhood,
to
continue
to
practice,
distancing
masking
if
you're
going
to
be
indoors
and
if
your
child
is
eligible
for
vaccine
to
get
them
vaccinated.
B
If
they're
not
already
within
the
school
setting
they're
taking
very
many
precautions
with
the
social
distancing,
the
masking
the
way
that
they're
setting
up
classrooms,
the
way
that
they're
ventilating
classrooms
and
taking
you
know
things
outside,
so
that
folks
can
be
spaced
out
and
better
ventilation.
But
we
we
likely
will
see
that
those
cases
coming
in.
C
F
C
B
C
Just
like
to
make
sure
we're
on
our
toes
on
this,
it
seems
like
it's
a
program,
that's
working
at
a
time
when
we
need
to
spur
people
getting
a
vaccine
and
would
hate
to
see
that
interrupted.
So
if
we
won't
meet
again
until
the
21st,
unless
we
call
a
special
meeting,
so
if
there's
action
we
need
to
take,
would
we
need
to
add
that
as
an
agenda
item
this
evening,.
C
Okay-
and
I
guess
the
question
for
board
members
to
mull
over
is
whether
we
have
the
unanimous
support
to
add
that
as
an
agenda
item,
the
final
thing,
I'd
love
to
just
ask
is
you
know
you
all
are
just
doing
tremendous
work
through
a
lot
of
different
strategies
and
it's
obviously
working
to
spur
a
lot
of
people
to
get
vaccines.
And
then
we
know
there's
another
group
of
people
in
our
community
who,
under
the
right
conditions,
will
get
vaccinated.
But
they
haven't.
C
But
I
would
love
to
just
hear
staff
thoughts
on
what
feels
feasible
there,
and
you
know
I
know,
there's
some
funding
that's
been
allocated
at
this
point
I
would
like
I
would
be
open
discussions
about
whether
there's
additional
funding
needs
that
arise
related
to
that.
But
I
think
in
this
period,
especially
as
we
see
concerning
things
happen
like
the
pediatric
cases,
go
up
we're
hearing
at
that.
C
B
B
G
It's
broken
up,
so
I
can't
I
can't
do
that
math.
But
what
was
my
other
thought?
Yeah
in
the
past,
stacey
you've
mentioned
that
you've
had
success
at
at
schools
doing
school
outreach.
I
I'd
love
to
hear
if
that's
still
the
case,
I
also
know
there's
you
know
several
dozen
schools
within
the
boundaries
of
buncombe
county,
and
so
I
guess
I'd
love
to
hear.
If
you
would
agree
if
you
would
think
it
would.
B
So
thanks
for
that,
we
have
had
a
lot
of
success
in
partnering
with
schools,
particularly
in
the
summer,
trying
to
get
many
of
the
student
athletes
who
were
eligible
vaccinated
plus
their
families,
and
we
had
quite
a
bit
of
success.
Sometimes
they
were
our
most
visited
and
we
administered
the
most
vaccines
at
those
because
it's
it's
a
familiar
space.
B
It's
a
place
that
folks
trust
it's
a
it's
usually
a
place
that
they
know
how
to
navigate
and
faces
they're
used
to
seeing
because
our
school
partners
were
often
there
with
us
and
so
as
we
think
about
particularly
those
who
are
less
than
12
being
eligible.
At
some
point,
we
are
thinking
through
like
how
do
we
partner
with
our
schools
and
be
as
successful
during
that
time,
as
we
were
in
the
summer,
so
planning
already
trying
to
think
through
that
with
school.
H
I
Stacey
talking
about
schools,
I'd
like
are
you
through,
I'm
sorry,
anyone
here
I
like
to
piggyback
what
parker
was
talking
about,
but
we
hear
a
lot
about
masking
in
the
buncombe
county,
schools,
asheville
city
schools.
We
know
what's
going
on
with
the
public
schools,
but
I
don't
hear
a
lot
about
the
private
schools
and
the
charter
schools
in
the
county.
I
mean
what
is
going
on
there.
Do
we
have
the
same
push
with
them
that
we
have
with
the
public
schools.
B
Thanks
for
the
question,
so
it's
my
understanding
that
the
charter
schools
have
followed
suit
with
the
public
schools
and
have
the
universal
k
through
12
masking
and
adopted
many
of
the
recommendations
in
the
strong
schools.
Toolkit
private
schools
are
different
and
I
don't
have
the
breakdown
as
to
which
are
requiring
and
which
don't,
but
I'll,
be
glad
to
get
that
for
you
and
share
it.
B
D
J
Stacy
one
of
the
questions
that
I've
continued
to
hear
recently
is
coming
from
larger
employers,
and
I
think
there
just
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
confusion
and
misinterpretation
of
guidance,
particularly
around
isolation
and
quarantining,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
those
folks
tune
into
these
briefings
to
catch
the
the
updated
information
and
for
those
folks
who
have
tuned
in
who
are
asking
those
questions.
Can
you
just
give
a
quick
reminder
to
that
process
of
someone
has
been
exposed
in
a
in
a
conference
room?
B
I
will
try
my
best
to
to
do
sort
of
a
sort
of
one
layer
type,
but
if
you
were
exposed
to
someone
who
is
a
positive
case,
the
quarantine
criteria
is
going
to
be
based
on
your
vaccination
status
at
this
time.
So,
if
you
are
exposed
and
you're
unvaccinated,
your
quarantine
is
usually
for
14
days.
There
are
options
for
a
lesser
quarantine,
but
that
means
that
you
have
to
be
asymptomatic.
B
Don't
have
any
through
that
time
period
not
having
any
symptoms,
and
so
there
are.
There
are
criteria
that
get
you
a
lesser
one.
If
you
are
vaccinated
and
exposed
to
someone
who
is
positive,
there
is
the
cdc
guidance
is
no
longer
that
you
have
to
quarantine,
but
you
do
still
have
to
self-monitor
for
symptoms,
and
we
do
recommend
that
three
to
five
days
after
the
last
exposure
you
get
tested,
and
so
that's
the
pretty
basic
one.
B
A
Just
a
couple
kind
of
follow-up
questions
you
know
in
terms
of
the
sort
of
suggestions
jasmine
was
making.
I
think
part
of
what
were
we're
interested
in
is
you
know
we
do
have
funding
set
aside
from
arpa
again
got
to
check
all
the
eligibility
stuff,
but
whether
it's
that
phone,
those
funds
or
others
I
mean,
of
course
we
just
you
know
we
want
to
do
anything.
We
can
to
help
continue
to
get
the
vaccination
numbers
up.
A
A
Any
new
things
that
we
might
be
able
to
kind
of
layer
on
on
top
of
what
we're
already
doing,
to
potentially
reach
more
people
and
and
and
try
to
move
some
more
people?
Because
is
it?
Is
it
correct
that,
by
the
fact
that
we
we
know
who's
been
vaccinated
in
buncombe
county
right
for
this?
That,
like
we
know
who
those
folks
are,
I'm
saying
this,
but
it's
really
a
question.
We
also
kind
of
know
who
hasn't
been
vaccinated
yet
right.
We
actually
know
who
those
people
are
in
the
community.
A
Some
of
the
ideas
I
hear
folks
kind
of
talking
about
that.
We
and
it's
not
just
public
health,
but
I'm
thinking
you
know,
can
our
can
the
county's
community
engagement,
folks
and
everyone
kind
of
think
about
if,
if
there
were
additional
resources
available,
what
what
might
some
promising
strategies
potentially
look
like
so.
F
D
A
It's
a
sense
that,
like
it,
has
moved
people
or
the
folks,
or
is
it
more
like
the
people
who
did
it
were
happy
to
get
the
bonus
for
that,
like
I,
don't
know
any
way
to
quantify
that
I
mean
he
says,
I'm
certainly
happy
to
support
it
or
maybe
even
expand
it
depending
on.
Is
it
a?
Is
it
an
impactful
incentive
in
this
process?
We.
B
Incentive
program
went
into
place.
The
state
continues
to
monitor
and
evaluate
it.
I
can
ask
if
they
have
any
new
data
around
statewide,
how
it
moved
people,
I
can
tell
you
anecdotally.
Yes,
folks
came
in
saying:
is
it
too
late
to
get
one
of
those
incentive
cards?
So
we
know
that
folks
were
coming
specifically
once
they
once
the
dollar
amount
changed.
That
seemed
to
make
a
big
difference
and
that
we
started
in
the
program
once
the
dollar
amount
changed
to
a
hundred.
B
But
what
I
hear
from
folks
across
the
state
is
that
they
were
in
the
program
longer
when
it
was
25.
They
saw
their
numbers
increase
when
it
moved
to
100.
So
there
was
this.
I
guess
the
threshold
had
been
met
where
it
made
it
much
more
motivating
and
enticing
and
more
desirable
to
do
so.
We
do
know
those
things
I'll
be
glad
to
ask
dhhs
if
they've
got
any
new
qualitative
and
quantitative
data
from
their
evaluation
of
the
program
from
the
time
it
started
and
after
the
dollar
amount
changed.
B
But
I
do
appreciate
the
recommendations
about
how
to
reach
others.
I'm
thinking
through
my
brain
right
now,
particularly
around
messaging
and
communications,
particularly
for
18
to
24
and
then
24
to
49,
because
those
tend
to
be
our
workforce
also
tend
to
be
our
rates
of
higher
infection
and
how
to
motivate
and
how
to
reach
those
folks
in
in
innovative
and
creative
ways.
B
Who
loves
them
told
them?
It
was
time
to
get
get
vaccinated.
The
increase
in
cases
that
still
is
the
one
of
the
drivers
as
well.
That
folks
have
said
that
when
we
had
that
summer,
the
beginning
of
the
summer
lol
that
they
thought
they
would
be
fine,
that
it
was
going
to
go
away
and
then,
as
the
delta
variant
increased,
they
felt
a
bit
more
vulnerable
and
so.
D
K
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
as
always,
and
it's
a
privilege
to
be
able
to
update
the
community
on
what's
happening
in
mission
health
system.
First
and
foremost,
I
want
to
shout
out
a
huge
thanks.
We
have
been
in
this
for
18
months
plus
now
caring
for
patients
in
our
community,
thanks
to
stacy
and
her
team
at
the
health
department,
who've
been
just
fantastic
partners
to
work
with
avril
and
and
the
gang
it's.
K
It's
really
been
it's
one
of
my
silver
linings
of
the
pandemic
that
we've
developed
closer
relationships.
It's
a
tragic
shame
that
has
come
at
the
cost,
so
much
suffering
to
so
many
people,
but
we're
thankful
for
that.
We're
especially
thankful
to
the
individuals
throughout
the
community
to
the
commissioners
here
have
shown
as
much
dedication
as
any
elected
group
towards
fighting
this,
and
it's
really
a
partnership
that
I've
grown
to
appreciate.
K
I
want
to
run
through
our
numbers
a
little
bit,
and
this
is
augmenting
and
sometimes
repeating
some
of
the
information
that
stacy
presented
to
you.
This
is
the
running
seven-day
average
in
north
carolina.
As
of
today,
you
can
see
that
there
is
a
slight
improvement
in
terms
of
the
number
of
cases
compared
to
14
days
ago,
is
down
about
26
and
if
you'll
notice,
to
the
right
of
the
slide
on
the
red
line
that
the
slope
or
the
steepness
of
the
curve
is
leveling
off.
K
I'm
worried
that
the
opening
of
the
schools
and
that
the
labor
day
weekend,
I'm
a
huge
football
fan,
and
if
you
watched
any
of
the
football
games,
you'll
notice,
there
was
nary
a
mask
to
be
found,
and
that
gives
me
great
pause
that
this
is
not
a
trend
that
necessarily
will
be
sustainable.
But
that
being
said,
we're
down
about
26
in
terms
of
the
rate
of
the
rise.
This
is
hca
data
that
I'm
sharing
with
you
here
that
looks
at
three
separate
groups.
K
One
is
all
of
hca
that
represents
our
187
hospitals
in
multiple
states
from
alaska
to
florida.
We
have
a
high
concentration
of
hospitals
in
texas
and
in
florida,
and
I
think
those
of
you
who
followed
this
closely
know
that
that's
where
the
pandemic
has
really
taken
off.
With
this
most
recent
delta
surge
and
I'm
encouraged
by
the
downward
slope,
we
are
seeing
a
decrease
in
numbers
of
hospitalizations
across
the
board.
K
The
right-hand
graph,
I
believe,
is
one
of
our
florida
divisions
and
you
can
see
a
downward
slope
there
and
the
bottom
graph
is
a
a
zeroed
in
look
at
what
we're
seeing
here
in
north
carolina.
This
represents
the
hospitalizations
in
our
18-county
region
and
you'll,
see
that
while
we
have
not
rounded
the
curve
as
they
have
in
some
of
the
other
divisions,
it
does
look
to
me
that
we're
flat-
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
beginning
of
a
downward
trend
or
not,
but
we're
hopeful
and
we'll
see
what
happens.
K
At
this
point
in
time,
I
think
it's
really
important
to
understand
that
90
to
95
of
all
those
who
are
hospitalized
right
now
are
unvaccinated,
and
so,
echoing
the
theme
that
you
all
have
put
forth,
what
we
can
do
to
get
people
vaccinated
is
critical
and
key
short
of
that
masking
is
huge
and
that
the
patients
in
the
hospital
who
are
sick
and
who
are
dying
are
the
unvaccinated.
Not
the
vaccinated,
vaccinated
people
can
get
infected,
but
the
severity
of
the
illness
is
dramatically
reduced.
K
K
Group
gray
is
45
to
64
years
of
age,
and
then
the
orange
is
those
older
than
65
years
of
age,
and
you
can
see
that
back
in
july
we
were
less
than
10
cases
a
day
diagnosed
in
our
labs,
and
we
have,
you
know,
gone
up
dramatically
in
all
age
groups,
and
these
are
all
tests
in
any
of
our
facilities.
You'll
note
that
the
biggest
increases
tend
to
be
in
those
in
the
0
to
24
and
25
to
44
year
age
group.
K
Keep
that
visual
image
in
mind,
because
I'm
going
to
break
it
down
here
in
a
moment
where
you
can
see
that
this
is
the
outpatient
setting
all
the
ambulatory
lab
emergency
department
and
other
labs
and
again
it's
that
64
and
under
that's
risen,
not
the
elderly
group.
That
has
seen
the
rise
and
then,
when
you
look
exclusively
at
the
inpatients,
those
who
are
hospitalized,
it's
a
dramatic
shift
so
see
this
picture
versus
this
picture.
Cases
are
rising
across
all
age
groups.
Hospitalizations
are
predominantly
in
the
45
year
old
group
and
older.
K
So
it's
really-
and
these
are
the
vast
majority
of
these
who
are
hospitalized
here,
as
I
said
previously,
are
in
the
unvaccinated
category.
We've
gotten
a
lot
of
questions
about
our
pediatric
hospitalizations.
We
have
not
seen
very
many
just
to
be
honest
with
you.
I
think
the
most
that
we
had
in
the
hospital
at
any
given
time
was
three
we're,
typically
averaging
one
to
two
children
who
are
hospitalized
with
covet.
The
other
question
we've
gotten
a
lot
is:
have
we
seen
any
deaths
from
in
our
vaccinated
population?
K
We
have
not
to
my
knowledge,
unless
someone
has
misinformed
me,
but
I
tried
to
get
that
data
and
we
have
not
seen
a
vaccinated
patient
die.
It
has
happened
in
the
country,
but
it
has
not
happened
here
locally.
So
it's
wildly
protective
for
us.
I
have
just
two
more
slides.
I
want
to
share
that
look
closer
at
mortality,
so
people
can
understand
what
the
death
curves
have
looked
like.
This
is
an
epic
curve
that
shows
deaths
per
day
going
back
to
the
pandemic.
K
If
you
look
out
towards
the
right-hand
side
of
the
curve
may
and
june
and
july
where
we
saw
one
two,
three
four,
maybe
five
or
six
deaths
total
in
a
two-month
period
and
then
it's
not
as
it's
not
surprising
to
me,
nor
to
anyone.
It
shouldn't
be
surprising,
as
the
cases
increase
the
hospitalizations
increase,
the
deaths
follow
and
now
we're
beginning
to
to
look
again
like
we
did
in
january,
similar
data
just
plotted
in
a
different
way.
K
This
represents
cumulative
deaths,
so
the
denseness
of
the
color
together
represents
deaths
day
after
day
after
day,
you
see
in
december,
through
february
many
deaths,
many
days,
multiple
deaths
on
a
given
day.
We
did
very
well
as
we
had
vaccines
put
into
people
stretched
out
the
number
of
days
in
between
deaths,
many
days
without
deaths
and
then
boom
august
1st
hits
and
we're
on
this
fourth
wave
with
the
delta
variant,
and
we
see
a
rise.
K
I
don't
think
the
slope
of
the
curve
or
the
denseness
of
the
bars
is
much
different
now
in
this
current
wave
than
it
was
in
december
and
january.
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
stacy
pointed
out
that
overall,
the
death
rate
is
lower.
It
was
12
per
100
000
in
january.
I
think,
if
that's
right
and
then
four
per
100
000
now
or
a
little
bit
less
than
four.
So
that's
encouraging.
A
Thank
you,
dr
hathaway,
would
you
mind
going
back
a
couple
of
slides?
If
you
can,
I
appreciate
you
sharing
this
information.
I
think
there's
some
yes
that
one.
So
this
is
just
for
mission
hospital.
This
is
just
mission
hospital,
okay
and
it's-
and
I
know
we
can't
read
all
the
details,
but
just
to
help
us
interpret
it.
This
is
updated
through
september,
the
7th
right,
I'm
reading
the
headline
now
yep
through
yesterday,
okay,
great.
A
A
K
And
I
would
think
just
to
elaborate
on
this
a
little
bit
that
that
I
would
expect,
while
the
mortality
rate
has
declined
over
time
significantly
in
january
and
february
and
march
of
last
year.
If
you
remember,
we
saw
tremendous
numbers
of
deaths
early
on
in
new
york
city.
When
health
systems
were
overwhelmed,
we
didn't
know
how
to
treat
it
very
well.
I
think
we
will
be
very
similar
to
what
we
were
for
hospitalized
patients
in
january.
K
I
think
that
death
rate
will
be
the
same,
but
to
be
many,
many
more
cases
that
never
make
it
to
the
hospital.
So
we'll
see
hospital
numbers
which
are
the
same
while
I
think
overall,
mortality
rates
will
be
be
lower
once
you
get
to
the
hospital,
it's
a
bad
situation,
and
again
these
are
the
unvaccinated.
Yes,.
A
And-
and
I
that
all
makes
sense
to
me,
but
it
is,
it
is
also
I
mean
those
are
alarming
numbers,
though
I
mean
you
know,
because
it's
not
quite
as
bad
as
december
january
I
mean
december
january
was
so
it
was
so
bad.
I've
spent
some
time
just
kind
of
going
back
and
looking
at
this
over.
You
know
from
time
to
time,
and
it's
with.
A
350
deaths
in
the
county
over
the
course
of
this
whole
pandemic,
but
they're
not
evenly
spread.
You
know
that
period
and
when
we've
had
these
peaks
there's
like
a
very
high
percentage
of
the
deaths
occurring
in
fairly
small
percentages
of
the
overall
time
frame
and
we're
in
another
one
of
those.
Now
we
don't
know
exactly
how
to
play
out.
I
hope
I
hope
you're
you're
right
that
it's
going
to
be
leveling
off,
and
maybe
we
see
more
positive
trends,
but
it
is
it
is.
A
A
A
K
That's
absolutely
right.
The
the
age
demographic
has
shifted
so
that
our
hospitalized
patients
are
far
younger
than
they
were
early
on
again,
that's
reflected
the
fact
that
we
vaccinated
the
elderly,
and
so
now
we're
left
with
the
others
and
we've
had.
I
think
our
youngest
death
for
us
was
a
28
year
old
person
and
we
tragically
had
the
death
of
a
woman
who
was
pregnant
and
delivered
prematurely
and
then
died,
leaving
the
newborn
baby
without
a
mother
and
the
two
kids
at
home
without
a
mother.
K
So
you
know
this-
is
it
always
has
been
serious?
It's
just
re-emphasized
by
the
current
surge.
If
the
the
death
rate
in
the
united
states
right
now
overall
is
about
1.62
percent,
which
means
between
one
and
two
people
out
of
every
100
who
get
the
illness
will
die
and
that's
10
times
greater
than
influenza.
We've
had
more
deaths
from
covid
in
this
epidemic
and
pandemic
than
we
have
in
10
years
worth
of
flu
deaths.
D
K
D
K
D
J
Dr
hathaway,
I
appreciate
you
sharing
the
the
local
death
numbers.
I
think
that's
a
great
way
to
build
trust
within
within
the
community
in
the
hospital.
So
thank
you
for
being
willing
to
share
those
most
current
numbers.
You
specifically
mentioned
the
fourth
of
july
spike
and
we're
just
coming
back
from
labor
day
and
you
you
know
you
mentioned
college
football.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
folks
out
doing
things.
K
K
So
I
suspect
that
we
will
see
a
rise.
I
think,
with
the
opening
of
schools,
we'll
see
a
rise
in
cases
for
sure,
because
there's
an
unvaccinated
population,
that's
back
in
school
and
they'll,
get
the
cases,
I'm
hopeful
but
pessimistic
that
that's
going
to
translate
also
into
an
increased
number
of
of
hospitalizations
and
I
suspect,
that'll
manifest
within
the
next
week
or
so.
Thank
you.
I
Dr
hathaway,
I
have
one
question
but
before
I'd
like
to
just
say
that
we
pro
echo
again,
we
appreciate
the
nurses,
doctors,
everyone
admission,
what
you're
doing,
and
we
know
too
how
this
is
wearing
on
your
staff.
It's
got
to
be,
but
the
question
I
have
is:
let's
set
covet
aside:
let's
talk
about
the
people
who
might
have
strokes,
heart
attacks
other
illnesses.
I
K
It's
been
it's
taken
a
significant
toll
and
it's
been
unfortunate.
What
we
saw
early
on
in
the
pandemic
was
that
there
was
a
decreased
demand
overall
for
services.
People
put
off
what
they
were
normally
would
normally
do
and
stayed
away
from
the
hospital
much
to
their
own
detriment.
In
many
circumstances,
what
that
did
was
create
capacity.
We
had
plenty
of
space
in
our
health
system
for
all
the
patients
who
needed
even
in
january,
while
we
were
full,
we
weren't
at
at
or
near
capacity
as
time
has
gone
on
all
across
the
state.
K
Our
our
demand
rose,
and
now
we've
been
hit
with
the
covet
surge
on
top
of
demand
for
health
care
that
had
already
come
back,
and
so
that's
put
us
all
every
hospital
in
the
state
at
near
capacity
for
our
care.
We
have
been
able
to
handle
it
to
this
date
and
we'll
continue
to
handle
it,
and
we
certainly
have
protocols
in
place
to
care
for
the
most
critically
ill
and
the
sickest
of
the
patients,
but
it
it's.
It's
been
a
challenge.
K
We
have
been
limited
in
large
part
by
not
so
much
physical
space
as
staffing
resources.
All
across
the
board,
I
saw
today
that
there's
an
estimated
15
000
person,
shortage
of
nurses
in
the
state
of
north
carolina
wow,
and
that
creates
huge
demands
not
just
on
availability
of
care,
but
demands
on
the
people
who
are
continuing
to
provide
the
care
they're
burning
out,
they're
they're
working
hard.
It's
been
emotionally
and
physically
difficult
for
them.
K
G
Dr
hathaway,
I
have
a
question
about
community
level,
vaccination
efforts
and
goals.
So
I,
like
everyone
else.
I
expect
I'm
reading
a
lot
about
how
states
and
communities
and
cities
that
have
higher
levels
of
vaccination
are
more
likely
to
keep
their
schools
open,
have
less
hospitalizations
all
the
good
things
that
that
come
with
high
levels
of
a
vaccination
which
is
intuitive.
G
D
K
Thank
you
one
additional
comment.
There
were
some
questions
about
booster
shots,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
emphasize
that
the
booster
shots
you
know
are
widely
pushed
by
the
biden
administration
as
the
next
step
and
dr
fauci
and
the
cdc
and
others
have
endorsed
that
too.
There
is
not
definitive
guidelines
about
who
or
how
or
what
or
when
or
where
the
guidelines
currently
are.
K
Looking
at
eight
months
after
your
first
vaccine
administration
and
that's
for
the
pfizer
vaccine,
the
data
for
moderna
has
not
been
fully
analyzed
and
nobody
knows
exactly
what
to
do
with
johnson
johnson
at
this
point
in
time.
So
there
will
be,
we
will
work
cooperatively
and
collaboratively.
We
have
a
what
we
call
our
western
north
carolina
vaccine
acceleration
consortium,
state
cni
and
many
many
others
in
the
18
county
region
are
part
of
that
and
we'll
partner
to
bring
a
plan.
K
But
that's
going
to
be
another
major
effort
that
we're
going
to
have
to
be
prepared
for
once
we
start
giving
the
booster
shots
to
brownie's
question.
I
think
that
that's
an
opportunity
to
push
that
campaign,
or
maybe
it
was
jasmine
to
push
the
campaign
for
additional
first
doses
for
people
when
we
get
into
the
booster
booster
side
of
it
too.
C
Dr
hathaway
I'll
echo,
the
thanks
to
you
and
to
all
of
your
colleagues
for
the
frontline
work
you're
doing.
We
are
talking
with
all
of
our
large
partners
in
the
community
about
vaccine
policy
for
employees
and
would
like
to
kind
of
take
a
few
moments
to
revisit
that
topic
with
you.
I
know
we
talked
about
it
last
time
you
were
here.
I
think
you
know
I
think,
from
a
county
perspective.
Certainly
we
are.
We
are
trying
to
explore
different
strategies
and
tactics
that
can
spur.
You
know
the
employee
numbers
to
rise.
C
I'd
like
to
hear
sort
of
the
update
on
the
current
policy
admission
and
then
current
thinking
about
whether
mission
would
join
many
of
the
other
large
major
health
systems
in
the
state
and
having
a
vaccine
or
having
a
vaccine
for
clinical
employees,
which
is
sort
of
a
way.
Some
people
have
parsed
the
policy
to
try
to
guard
against
the
fear
of
losing
non-clinical
workforce
as
part
of
a
mandate.
K
K
K
K
The
the
the
downside,
as
you
alluded
to,
is
the
workforce
and
we're
watching
very
very
closely
in
communities
which
we
consider
similar
to
ours,
including
within
our
own
community,
how
that's
affected
their
people
and
whether
they're
leaving
or
not
leaving.
I
I
you
know
if
we
put
in
a
vaccine
mandate
and
have
a
shortage
of
staff
because
of
that
that
doesn't
serve
the
global
purpose
that
we're
all
after.
If
we
fail
to
do
it
and
people
get
infected
and
they
don't
need
to
be
that's
a
problem.
So
it's
a
it's
a
balance.
C
Okay,
well,
I
know
this
isn't
the
forum
for
debate,
but
I
do
think
every
large
employer
in
our
community
has
an
opportunity
and
in
some
cases,
a
responsibility-
and
you
know
it's-
I
it's
just
very
hard
to
look
at
the
recommendations
around
this
and
the
choices
that
large
hospital
systems
within
north
carolina
serving
very
diverse
communities
have
made
and
understand,
understand
why
mission's
not
going
there.
I
hope
that
you
all
in
continued
discussions
will
make
the
decision
to
to
make
that.
K
L
A
So,
commissioners,
obviously
this
is
a
really
important
conversation
and
I
don't
I
don't
want
to
curtail
it.
We
do,
but
I
also
just
want
to
acknowledge
the
other
items
on
our
agenda
too,
which
so
we're
either
going
to
need
to
maybe
maybe
schedule
some
additional
time
for
them
or
we're
going
to
need
to
move
on
to
them.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
if
there's
other
things,
people
really
want
to
get
out
on
this,
there's
there's
nothing
more
important
going
on
in
the
community
right
now.
A
G
A
D
G
A
G
G
There's
just
a
couple
things.
You
know
this
is
a
draft.
These
are
my
thoughts,
a
couple
things
I'd
like
to
see
added,
which
is
a
simple
sent.
You
know
item
at
the
end,
which
would
implor
implore
all
employees
to
do
to
follow
suit.
I'd
also
consider
adding
actual
buncombe
technical
community
college
to
this
list,
and
I
just
say
I'll
just
describe
my
intent,
which
is
you
know
not
to
not
to
force
anyone
to
do
anything
in
terms
of
employers.
G
Nowhere
is
my
intent
to
define
for
people
what
the
definition
of
a
vaccine
mandate
is.
That
comes
in
very
many
different
forms.
There
are
different
various
items
and
and
incentives,
carrots
and
sticks
that
people
can
use.
My
intent
here
is
to
tell
and
to
ask
certain
employers
that
now
is
the
time
to
try
things
to
incentivize
their
employees.
To
do
this.
So
that's
that.
A
I
think
that
our
numbers
show
that
we
do
have
a
you
know,
we're
probably
doing
relatively
well
on
the
vaccination
rates
compared
to
communities
as
a
whole.
So
thank
you.
Everyone
who's
helping
to
meet
those
goals,
but
our
numbers
aren't
where
we
want
them
to
be
either.
So
we
appreciate
the
strategies
that
staff
have
developed
to
help
continue
to
ramp.
A
That
up
and
the
updates
on
that-
and
you
know
my
sense-
is
that
I
hope
then
I
hope
that
they,
you
know
they
continue
to
move
people,
and
I
think
I
think
getting
the
numbers
up
is
is
really
we
have
to
do
that.
I
hope
the
current
efforts
are
successful
in
getting
us.
There
are
very
close
to
there
if
they,
if
they
aren't.
A
An
organization
have
to
consider
other
other
policies.
You
know
around
around
how
we
continue
to
get
something
closer
to
universal
vaccinations
as
well.
So,
but
I
wanted
to
say
thanks
for
all
the
work,
that's
going
into
that
and
and
some
of
the
promising
results
that
we're
we're,
seeing
some
from
some
of
the
new
initiatives.
Thanks.
A
F
A
F
A
Okay,
so
let's,
let's
we'll
add
that
if
there's
no
objections
to
at
least
have
some
discussion
around
that
for
new
business,
okay-
and
that
sounds
that
sounds
great
overall
all
right.
Commissioners,
we
do
need
to
move
on.
So,
let's,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
to
the
next
item,
which
is
an
update
on
the
solar
rp
process.
L
Good
afternoon,
chairman
newman
commissioners,
I
understand
you
guys
have
a
lot
on
your
agenda
and
I
know
the
ferry
road
property
is
on
this
agenda
too,
and
that's
going
to
be
a
time
consuming
and
important
topic.
So
I'm
going
to
get
through
this
as
quickly
as
I
can
for
you.
It's
really
just
an
update
on
where
we're
at
with
our
solar
projects
ongoing
solar
projects.
As
you
know,
the
county
approved
an
aggregated
solar
rfp,
several
months
back,
happy
to
say
that
we're
actually,
finally
getting
panels
on
roofs
which
is
very
exciting.
L
For
me,
it's
been
a
long
process.
I
know,
commissioners,
you
got
a
chance
to
go
out
to
leicester
library
and
see
those
panels,
those
beautiful
shining
panels.
So
I'm
just
very
happy
to
report
that
we
are
boots
on
ground
and
insulation.
Installation
is
actually
happening
now.
It's
very
exciting.
We've
got
the
first
bundle
of
projects
going.
We
have
had
just
full
disclosure
this
the
global
supply
chain,
issues
that
are
happening
to
everybody
else.
L
Everybody
else
are
happening
to
us
as
well,
so
we've
had
some
delays
in
shipping
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
nothing
that's
derailed
is
too
much
just
slowed
us
down
a
few
weeks,
but
we're
doing
pretty
well
and
construction
is
moving
forward.
Bundle
one,
which
is
just
the
flush
mounted
systems,
is
on
the
ground
and
bundle.
Two
is
our
ballasted
like
flat
roof
systems
ready
to
go
in
october,
just
as
a
reminder,
there's
39
total
projects.
L
So
a
lot
of
work
to
do
it's
a
18
to
20
24
month,
like
total
construction
time,
we
do
have
a
couple
of
upcoming
projects
as
well
to
add
to
that
group
as
if
we
don't
have
enough
going
on
already
we're
going
to
add
some
more
to
the
list.
East
asheville
library
and
our
public
safety
firing
range
are
those
are
already
in
our
cip
for
this
current
year.
So
we'll
be
we'll,
be
bidding
those
out,
hopefully
here
in
the
in
in
the
next
few
weeks.
L
Honestly,
we
do
have
some
additional
agencies
that
are
jumping
on
board
with
us
this
time
as
well,
not
nearly
the
scale
of
what
we
did
last
time.
But
black
mountain
has
a
has
a
project.
Unca
has
a
project.
City
of
asheville
has
a
project
we're
going
to
be
beating
those
out
together,
and
so
the
board
should
expect
to
see
an
mou
with
those
agencies
on
the
consent
agenda.
Here
in
the
coming
weeks,
our
utility
scale
development
is
going
really
well.
L
So
those
discussions
to
see
if
we
can't
potentially
collaborate
with
one
of
these
developers
on
an
additional
utility
scale
project
which
will
obviously
move
us
much
further
down
the
road
towards
reaching
our
our
goals
in
terms
of
reaching
100
renewable
goals.
Rooftop
solar
is
great,
but
in
terms
of
moving
the
needle
the
utility
scale.
Stuff
is
really
just
a
huge
huge
part
of
how
we're
going
to
meet
those
challenging
goals
that
we
have,
and
that
is
it.
I
told
you
I'd
get
through
it
fast.
So.
D
G
A
D
M
Actually
smiling,
even
though
you
can't
see
it
all
right
so
today,
I'm
coming
before
you
to
discuss
the
emergency
emergency
paid,
sick
leave-
and
I
just
want
a
second
here
so
and
with
some
recommendations
for
you
to
consider
so
starting
off
and
and
stacy
did
a
great
job
on
discussing
what
the
cdc
guidelines
are
for
our
employees
right
now.
So
for
those
employees
that
are
fully
vaccinated,
they
are
not
required
if
they
have
close
contact
to
quarantine
as
long
as
they
don't
have
any
symptoms.
M
M
So
part
of
that
policy
was
extending
their
sick
leave
and
we
did
not
grant
them
any
additional
hours.
So
under
the
ffcra
they
were,
they
received
80
hours
through
the
federal
government
and
what
we
did
was
we
just
let
it
roll
many
of
our
employees
were
not
using
those
hours,
so
it
just
it
made
sense.
M
M
M
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
in
looking
at
this
data,
what
we're
finding
is
it's
it!
This
policy
is
not
equitable
for
all,
so
if
you
have
and
it's
about
76
77
percent
of
our
employees
are
vaccinated,
so
those
folks
would
not
be
eligible
for
any
quarantine
benefit.
So
what
we're
asking
is
that
we
remove
the
the
quarantine
benefit.
However,
we
do
reset
all
employees
to
80
hours,
so
those
that
work
in
positions
that
they
can't
necessarily
quarantine
and
work
from
home.
A
I
think
we've
had
a
very
generous
policy
around
these
kinds
of
issues
throughout
the
pandemic
as
well.
We
should,
but
for
for
staff
who
make
the
irresponsible
decision
to
not
get
vaccinated.
I
question
whether
we
can
you
know
continue
to
provide
those
kind
of
policies
in
the
future.
I
think
people
who
who
take
responsibility
take
steps
to
protect
themselves,
not
spread
this.
A
You
know,
I
think
it
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world,
but
but
it
is
a
question
I
think
is
a
is
a
reasonable
one
to
ask.
I
think
this
is
a
better
policy
than
what
we
have
today,
so
I
had
to
choose
between
the
two.
I
would
support
it,
but
I
just
I
do
feel
I
feel
like
I
wanted
to
just
share
that
concern
in
question
any
others
all
right.
Thank
you.
Sharon
thank.
D
A
N
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
this
afternoon
we're
going
to
talk
about
ferry
road.
This
is
the
first
of
two
presentations
on
this
topic,
so
you'll
get
a
chance
to
talk
about
it,
some
more,
but
on
march
2020,
this
board
approved
a
three-phrase
contract
and
with
the
agreement
that
we
would
be
back
after
phase
one
to
review
the
initial
results
and
then
make
a
determination
on
whether
or
not
you
wanted
to
proceed
into
phases.
Two
and
three
so
not
asking
for
a
decision
today.
N
This
is
the
first
presentation,
but
when
we
come
back
in
14
days
on
the
21st,
we
would
be
looking
for
a
green
light
or
red
light.
Do
you
want
to
keep
on
going
so
with
that
said?
Many
of
you
know,
but
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
this
site
is
buncombe.
County
owned
was
initially
slated
for
economic
development
purposes,
the
the
famous
deschutes
project
and
later
residential
purposes,
but
both
of
those
projects
have
fallen
through.
N
That
said,
this
board
asked
us
to
take
a
look
at
this
property
and
see
what's
possible
and
when
we
say
what's
possible,
what
can
we
do
with
this?
Almost
200
acre
parcel
that
can
meet
community
needs
and
so
that
that's
what
we've
done
and
that's
what
brings
us
today
so
we
contracted
with
equinox,
and
today,
we've
got
kim
williams
here
with
us,
who
is
our
project
manager,
so
she'll
be
able
to
walk
us
through
the
details.
N
But
what
I
want
you
to
hear
from
me
and
from
kim
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
is
this.
This
study
stresses
key
aspects
that
are
important:
they're
evidenced
in
the
buncombe
county
strategic
plan,
but
you
talk
about
them
in
every
meeting
and
so
there's
specific
things.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
the
public
was
aware
of
so
when
we
start
this
project
number
one
consideration
was:
how
do
we
conserve
the
property
to
the
best
extent
possible?
O
Thank
you
tim
good
afternoon,
commissioners.
I
would
like
to
say
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
work
on
this
project.
Equinox
is
based
out
of
asheville.
Our
president,
david
tuck
sends
his
regression.
He
can't
be
here,
but
both
david
and
I
feel
like
this
is
a
very
important
project
and
really
sets
the
tone
for
how
development
the
future
of
development
in
the
county
works
and
kind
of
sets
a
model.
A
shining
example
of
what
development
can
look
like.
O
O
O
It's
inspired
by
nature.
It
incorporates
recreation,
it
has
equitable
transportation
and
it's
a
contributor
to
the
economy.
So
that's
a
lot
of
things
for
one
little
site
to
accomplish,
but
I
think
there's
several
avenues:
how
we
can
pursue
that
as
part
of
the
visioning.
We
also
set
goals
the
the
leadership
team,
which
is
made
up
of
different
staff
members,
and
so
these
are
the
different
goals.
A
host,
a
diverse,
live
work,
play
and
aging
in
place.
Community
provide
inclusive
and
affordable
housing,
increase
a
well-paid
living
wage
workforce
by
hosting
commercial
or
specialized
manufacturing
employers.
O
A
little
bit
about
the
context
of
the
site,
it
is
137,
acre
property
located
at
a
gateway
and
hub
of
one
of
the
biggest
recreation
areas
in
western
north
carolina
so
gateway
to
pisco
national
forest.
The
arboretum
importantly,
there's
a
new
employment
hub
and
training
center
being
developed
right
across
the
river
and
a
regional
greenway
is
proposed
as
part
of
the
hellbender
system
to
connect
to
the
site.
O
Here's
a
little
more
detailed
look
at
that
regional
greenway
and
it's
just
shown
diagrammatically
and
also
the
new
bridge
that
is
currently
being
constructed
south
of
the
site,
an
important
part
of
the
step
of
this
planning
process,
and
this
is
something
that
our
firm
equinox
specializes
in
is
an
environmental
assessment.
We
do
this
at
any
scale,
from
a
five
acre
property
to
a
five
thousand
acre
property.
O
We
worked
with
our
ecologists
to
identify
a
lot
of
these
priorities
and
we
synthesized
all
this
information
together
to
identify
three
different
zones
for
conservation
and
the
remainder
outside
of
those
conservation
zones
are
the
more
developable
areas,
so
you'll
see
three
color
codes,
green
being
the
the
darkest
and
then
the
gradients
which
I'll
get
into
so
for
critical
conservation.
These
are
areas
where
we
are
recommending.
We
do
not
develop
in
these
areas.
These
areas
are
off
limits,
probably
most
likely,
because
you'll
have
to
do
a
lot
of
permitting
impacts,
but
also
the
environmental
impacts.
O
They'll
have
so
it's
water
courses
and
wetlands
buffered
by
30
feet
and
unique
natural
areas,
which
are
you
know
cliffs
wetlands
stuff,
like
that
it
is
a
special
site.
In
that
sense,
primary
zones
we're
recommending
to
try
to
minimize
or
exclude
impacts.
If
there's
any
impact,
really
low
impact
development
and
best
practices
should
occur.
It's
buffering
hydrology
by
100
feet,
steep
slopes
as
well.
O
And
then
the
secondary
zone
there
may
potentially
need
to
be
impacts
to
these
zones,
but
this
is
where
low
impact
development
really
can
occur,
and
this
is
a
variety
of
other
layers
that
we
looked
at,
including
a
statewide
layer
that
looks
at
you
know
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
state.
How
important
is
this
site-
and
there
was
some
importance,
but
it
does
overlap
some
of
the
zones
that
we've
already
protected.
O
The
other
thing
we
looked
at
through
the
help
of
traffic
planning
and
design,
who
was
our
traffic
engineer,
is
three
access
areas
as
potential
options,
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
each
of
those.
The
southern
access
option
looks
at
accessing
from
bent
creek
branch
road,
and
this
would
be
at
an
existing
signal.
So
ncdot
does
like
this
option
as
it's
already
a
controlled
access
point.
O
So
once
we
looked
at
what
are
the
areas
to
conserve,
we
looked
at
what
are
the
areas
to
build,
and
these
are
generally
the
flatter
areas.
I
also
want
to
mention
everything
that
we're
proposing
that's
a
higher
level
of
development.
Suitability
is
in
the
brown
tan
and
we're
looking
at
about
40
46
to
50
acres
of
developable
area
and
the
remaining
65
acres
potential
conservation
area
are
very
low
impact
development.
O
O
And
we
looked
at
sites
sustainability
as
part
of
that.
In
these
five
options
we
start
out
with
option
a
at
being
a
lower
density
scenario
and
utilizing
more
of
that
conservation
area
all
the
way
to
concept
e.
That
is
a
higher
impact
in
the
sense
that
there
will
be
more
square
footage
of
development
and
impervious
surfaces.
O
For
each
of
these
different
scenarios.
We
looked
at
the
goals
and
have
a
sliding
scale
of
how
these
goals
work.
So
we
can
talk
you
through
each
of
those
so
for
concept,
a
we're
really
looking
at
concept,
a
as
a
recreation
based
community,
it's
centered
around
nature
and
it
has
a
higher
level
of
conservation
area,
but
it
does
have
a
single
family
and
the
missing
middle
and
I'll
explain
the
missing
middle
is
you
know,
prior
to
the
1950s,
there
was
a
lot
of
these
housing
types
built.
They
were
condos
townhomes,
four
plexes
duplexes.
O
O
We
also
include,
in
this
scenario
urban
and
multi-family.
So
those
are
apartment
complexes
and
a
bit
of
commercial
and
or
specialized
industrial.
One
thing
we
have
heard
is:
there's
a
need
for
especially
outdoor
retailers
and
manufacturers
to
need
smaller
scale
spaces
like
10
to
4
40
000
square
feet,
so
in
some
cases
there
could
be
some
type
of
recreation
based
or
light
industrial
on
this
site.
In
this
scenario.
O
For
this
reason
we
do
have
some
job
creation
as
part
of
this,
so
when
you're,
looking
at
the
goals
and
the
sliding
scale
you're
high
on
the
sustainability,
because
you're
able
to
conserve
a
lot
of
land
but
lower
on
the
workforce
generation,
so
we'll
just
go
through
each
of
those.
This
is
an
example
of
some
of
the
missing
middle
housing
types
that
you
can
see
as
well
as
for
most
of
these
options
and
scenarios,
we
propose
pocket
parks
or
other
things
to
help
create
community.
O
O
It
may
vary
in
each
scenario,
but
a
greenway
that
connects
as
part
of
the
larger
regional
greenway
and
in
this
scenario,
probably
a
higher
level
of
something
like
natural
surface.
Drills
could
be
an
option
so
in
the
pink
we
show
that's
where
the
light
specialized
industrial
could
go
or
commercial
and
everything
in
yellow
is
single
family
housing.
O
And
again,
affordable
housing
and
equitable
transportation
access
are
some
of
the
higher
metrics
and
goals
that
are
being
met
in
this
one
and
here's
some
example
of
smaller
housing
with
smaller
footprints,
and
also
your
missing
middle
duplexes
and
townhomes,
and
then
that
small,
commercial
that
we've
referenced
and
this
commercial
really
would
be
to
serve
the
local
community.
So
it
would
be
a
coffee
shop
or
other
other
things
like
that,
a
daycare
center.
O
The
next
concept
is
a
mixed-use
village
center
concept
and
it's
a
small
scale
live
work
play
and
things
are
more
distributed
across
the
different
land
use
types.
So
you
do
have
single
family
and
missing
middle
about
the
same,
but
you
really
increased
your
your
multi-family
housing
and
also
as
well
as
commercial,
so
opportunity
for
affordable
housing
when
density
increases.
Of
course,
affordable
housing
increases,
there's
still
opportunity
for
pocket
parks,
but
maybe
smaller
scale
parks
and
conserve
space
as
an
example
of
a
village
center.
So
it
could
be.
You
know
just
a
couple
stories.
O
Town
centers
or
places
where
you're
going
to
see
commercial
on
the
bottom
and
multi-storeys
on
the
top.
So
that's
really
going
to
increase
multi-family
units,
there's
more
opportunity
as
well
for
this
in
the
missing
middle.
But
in
this
concept
that's
more
the
village
town
center
concept,
we
don't
have
single-family
housing
and
so
that
increases
commercial
and
also
job
creation
and
affordable
housing.
So
again,
those
metrics
go
up
just
because
you're
able
to
increase
density,
which
increases,
affordable,
housing
and
availability
for
commercial
and
job
creation,
and
these
are
examples
more
of
a
central
plaza.
O
O
O
O
So
we
have
side-by-side
comparisons
and
we
can
talk
through
these.
Maybe
if
you
have
questions,
but
I
want
to
emphasize
again
that
it's
really
about
concepts.
A
through
c
are
about
smaller
neighborhood
villages
and
increasing
single-family
and
multi-family
housing
and
concept.
D's
and
e's
are
really
increasing
commercial
and
jobs.
You
know
chances
for
jobs
and
chances
for
businesses
to
come
in.
E
O
Analyze,
the
open
space
and
the
open
space
category
is
really
more
formalized
public
park,
space
or
plazas.
So
you
see
it
decrease
when
you're
going
towards
the
business
park
concept
but
for
affordable
housing.
The
big
reason
why
the
increase
occurs
is
just
because
you're
having
a
huge
density
increase
with
multi-family
housing.
O
G
D
G
O
If
I
can
go
back
to
one
of
the
maps,
I
can
explain
those
areas
again.
That
has
been
an
interesting
conversation
to
have
with
each
of
these
scenarios
is:
who
is
the
recreation
and
the
nature
of
space?
For?
Is
it
for
the
public
or
is
it
for
the
community
that
will
live
there
and
I
think
in
different
scenarios
it
would
make
sense
for
it
to
be
more
private
versus
public.
That
being
said,
use
of
the
greenway
and
seeing
the
open
space
and
seeing
the
river
would
would
be
for
the
public
for
everyone.
O
O
Let
me
go
back
to
that
map.
So
what
was
referenced
is
in
the
south.
East
corner
is
a
huge
wetland
complex
and
that's
that's
that
critical
conservation
zone
so
we're
not
proposing
anything
other
than
maybe
like
a
boardwalk
system,
or
something
like
that.
So
I
think
it's
really
dependent
on
the
community.
In
the
county
of
what
level
investment
you
want
have
to
get
the
public
down
to
that
space
because
it
will
take
some
investment
and
then
the
same
thing
for
the
blueway
access.
O
If
we
go
into
the
next
phase,
we
will
explore
in
a
little
more
detail
like
how
big
does
that
parking
look
like
if
we
can't
get
a
ton
of
people
down
there,
there's
a
way
to
get
them
still
accessed
to
the
blue
way
in
another
way.
So
the
hope
is
to
really
utilize,
maybe
the
main
part
of
the
site
for
recreation,
but
get
people
to
explore
from
that
main
part.
So,
there's
different
options:
we're
exploring.
O
Sure
I'll
have
tim
come
back
up
here
and
I
think
one
of
the
main
things
we
want
to
discuss
with
you
is,
if
you
lean
towards
certain
scenarios,
if
we
do
move
to
the
next
phase,
there's
three
scenarios
that
we
want
to
try
to
drill
down
to.
So
if
you
want
to
have
a
quick
discussion
on
how
much
time
we
have
left
about
what
are
you
thinking
and
it
may
not
just
be
a
scenario
but
a
land
use
type
that
you
really
want
to
make
sure
it
gets
into
the
final
planning
process.
C
Thanks,
there's
a
great
presentation:
it's
exciting
to
see
this
for
me,
bc
and
d
really
rise
to
the
top,
particularly
c
and
d
within
that
mix.
I'm
sorry,
b
wait
particularly
b
and
c.
Excuse
me,
just
with
the
you
know,
really
seeing
this
as
an
opportunity
to
be
a
major
driver
in
some
of
our
strategies
around
expanding
access
to
affordable
housing.
C
I'd
also,
as
we
move
forward
in
conversations,
be
excited
to
hear
ideas
around
more
about
sort
of
what
that
retail
commercial
space
might
look
like
and
also
whether
there
sort
of
are
some
public
benefit
or
public
good
projects.
We
could
envision
within
those
spaces,
perhaps
a
large
early
childhood
education
center
health
clinics,
whether
any
of
our
community
partners
have
ideas
about
that
piece.
So,
just
to
kick
us
off,
that's
sort
of
where
my
initial
thoughts
are.
G
Wanna,
I
feel
like
I'm
always
talking,
go
ahead.
Parker,
the
missing
middle
is
my
favorite
part
about
all
of
this,
not
just
just
not
just
because
it
might
provide
housing
for
workforce
housing,
but
because
of
the
housing
types
you're
suggesting
that
the
duplexes,
the
multiplexes
town
homes,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
That
kind
of
gentle
density,
I
think,
is
missing
in
our
community.
G
It's
one
of
the
biggest
mistakes
we've
made
as
a
society
since
world
war
ii
is
not
building
that
kind
of
housing
stock.
I
think
it's
fantastic
and
I
would
love
to
to
build
a
lot
of
that
in
this
community
in
here,
and
that
made
me
really
excited
about
the
comprehensive
plan
and
thinking
more
about
that
with
you.
So
thank
you.
J
D
J
A
A
So
the
main
things
that
I
hope
we
can
get
out
of
this
is
to
make
a
significant
contribution
towards
the
creation
of
affordable
housing
in
buncombe
county,
which
is
this
urgent
need.
We
already
own
this
land
right
and
land,
as
we
were
just
talking
about
in
our
affordable
housing
committee
meeting
it's
one
of
the
biggest
limiting
factors
on
what
we
can
do.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
buildable
land
and
it's
very
expensive.
So
the
fact
that
we
already
own
this
land
it's
paid
for
and
there
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
places
here.
A
To
me,
I
want
to
get
as
much
affordable
housing
value
out
of
that
land.
That's
going
to
be
converted
from
natural
to
developed
as
possible.
So
for
that
reason
doing
like
a
big
single
family
subdivision
is
I
wouldn't
support
that
because
I
think
it's
we
would
develop
a
lot
of
land
that
all
things
being
equal.
I'd
prefer
to
just
leave
undeveloped
and
you
don't
really
get
that
much
out
of
it.
A
You
know
in
terms
of
the
number
of
units,
so
I
think
of
this
more
as
like
kind
of
this,
like
preserve,
where
we
ought
to
try
to
sort
of
strategically
drop,
some
pretty
high
density
like
some
fairly
intense,
dense
development,
but
on
a
very
sm
on
the
smallest
possible
footprint
of
the
property.
So,
for
those
reasons
I
kind
of
favor
some
higher
density
multi-family
housing,
which
will
also
qualify
for
the
four
percent,
affordable
housing
tax,
credit
programs.
If
we
do
a
lot
of
small
units,
they
would
be
very
attractive
there,
but
they're.
A
O
If,
if
I
can
interject
real
quick
one
thing
I
didn't
mention,
is
we
base
affordable
housing
on
a
20
of
all
units
kind
of
guess,
work
that
that
could
be
what
it
is,
and
that
was
just
a
target.
We
based
on
the
city
of
asheville
did
current
recent
studies
with
some
of
their
properties
and
based
it
on
that.
A
So
I
would
I
would
advocate
for
for
more,
I
mean
I
just
think,
there's
just
there's
just
like
so
few
opportunities
like
this.
If
we
had
10
of
these,
that
might
be
fine,
but,
like
we
were
talking
in
meetings
today
about
you,
know
wide
range
of
different
goals
for
affordable
housing,
but
you
know
all
of
them
involved
like
we're
not
meeting
nearly
enough
right.
A
H
H
Partly
I
just
wonder,
like
the
capacity
of
that
land,
to
really
hold
that
much
housing
too.
When
you
walk,
it
would
be
one
of
my
concerns
about
you
know
how
much
you
would
do
on
that,
but
I
do
believe
that
kind
of
the
mixed
definitely
I'm
also
very
supportive
of
the
missing
middle
as
well
as
the
home
ownership.
H
I
do
feel
like
home
ownership
is
something
we
should
be
looking
at
with
this
and
I
very
much
favor
the
ones
that
include
that
within
them,
and-
and
I
am
intrigued
with
the
having
some
type
of
the
commercial
within
there
too,
because
I
think
about
you
know-
we
want
this
workforce
housing,
this
home
ownership
and
for
people
to
be
able
some
to
be
able
to
potentially
work
there
in
that
neighborhood.
So
I
I
actually
thought
the
recreational
aspect
of
that.
H
E
I
don't
think,
there's
as
much
usable
land
there
as
we
think
as
I
growed
up
there
and
I've
walked
that
for
many
years,
and
you
know
I
look
at
c
d
and
e
a
little
of
each,
but
I
don't
think
there's
enough
to
do
any
any
one
of
these
projects
of
what
this
land
is
really
suited.
For
I
know
I
was
the
one
that
said,
I
think
we
just
need
to
look
at
phase
one
and
save
the
money,
because
this
is
valuable
land,
but
now
I
think
we
need
to
go
into
one
more.
E
You
know
study
and
let
someone
really
bring
us
back
more
than
what
we
have
right
now
and-
and
I
know
cost
you
know
that's
going
to
be.
My
biggest
thing
is:
what
is
this
going
to
cost
county?
Because,
yes,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
money
in
this
land,
but
it
is
worth
a
lot
of
money
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we
do.
I
don't
want
to
let
this
land
just
sit
still.
There
is
something
we
can
do
with
a
third
of
it,
a
half
of
it
or
the
majority
of
it.
D
I
I
I
This
is
something
I
want
to
see
and
I
agree
with
what's
being
said,
I
think
the
city
is
selling
themselves
short
in
this
20
percent.
I
think
we
can
do
more
than
that,
because
we
need,
when
you
look
at
equity
and
affordable
housing,
that's
critical!
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at
more
than
20
percent
in
whatever
we
do,
but
I
want
to
see
us
go
to
phase
two,
so
we
can
look
at
it
more.
I
I
mean
we've
got
some
good
examples
here,
but
I'm
not
that
soul
on
either
one
yet
they're
ready
to
say
which
way
to
go,
but
I
do
lean
more
to
housing
and
that's
missing
middle
than
I
do
on
the
commercial
side.
You
know
we
can.
When
I
look
at
commercial,
I
think
more
of
what
we
need
for
the
community
like
child
care
of
somebody
mentioned
a
clinic.
These
are
the
things
I'd
like
to
see
you
know
in
that
community,
but
that's
something
we
can
look
at
more.
I
C
M
O
Okay,
we
will
be
taking
this
to
your
next
meeting
and
ask
you
to
actually
talk
about
three
scenarios
that
you
want
to
move
forward
with.
So
the
end
of
the
plan
would
include
three
different
scenarios
and
I
can
go
to
the
next
steps
slide:
real,
quick
at
the
very
end
as
part
of
the
next
two
phases.
The
the
next
phase
would
really
be
about
the
community
stakeholder
input.
So
that's
a
critical
part.
O
They
would
weigh
in
on
this
the
six
different
scenarios,
but
with
the
idea
that
the
three
scenarios
are
probably
the
most
preferred
and
get
their
feedback
opportunities
for
partnerships
and
then
from
there
we
would
refine
those
scenarios
a
lot
more.
So
commissioner,
pressler
you're
concerned
about
the
buildability
we'll
have
engineers
and
landscape
architects
and
others
urban
designers
actually
working
on
detailed
maps
to
figure
out
if
it's
truly
buildable
and
getting
that
footprint
right
for
each
of
those
those
buildings.