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From YouTube: Commissioners' Workshop (February 13, 2018) Part 2
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Work Session of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners presenting an Economic Overview, Budget Overview, and Fund Balance Review. Part 1 of 2.
A
B
Seventh
president,
so
we're
going
to
talk
about
force
and
I'm
gonna
be
discussing
on
the
revenue
side.
It's
the
whole
stalkers,
the
economy,
economics
trans
influences,
so
we
picked
for
one
heavy
one,
medium,
two
on
the
lower
property
tax
and
the
heaviest
portion
of
the
revenues
that
we
bring
in
as
County
sales
tax
medium-sized
that
we
needed
also
the
most
volatile
excise
stamp
tax,
one
we
don't
focus
on
too
much,
except
for
today,
you
guys
are
in
left
and.
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Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
I'm
always
happy
to
get
to
talk
to
anybody,
though
listen
to
me
about
that.
Not
me,
gonna
be
one
of
your
about
back
so
I
appreciate
you
guys,
listen.
So
one
thing
that
I
hope
to
accomplish
here
before
you
today
is
I
want
to
go
through
some
of
the
process
and
help
you
may
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
is
in
ad
valorem
tax.
What
does
it
mean
to
us
and
what
piece
of
components
of
this
make
up
the
holder?
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Where
does
it
come
from
where's
the
risk
involved
in
it
as
we
move
forward
and
thinking
about
budget
backs
rates,
and
so
on
so
ad
valorem
taxes
made
up
really
a
five
components,
the
first
being
the
largest
real
estate
124,000
parcels
currently,
and
that
includes
residential
commercial,
industrial,
multifamily
and
vacant
land,
the
second
one,
individual
personal
property,
which
is
your
manufactured
housing.
That's
on
land,
not
homeowner
book
trailers,
book
motors
utility
trailers,
utility
buildings,
the.
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Rather
than
personal
harm,
okay,
so
these
are
the
five
components
that
make
up
your
ad
valorem
tax
valuation.
So
I
want
to
touch
just
a
briefly
on
each
one
of
them,
we'll
talk
about
what's
in
them
and
kind
of
where
I
feel
that
some
risk
may
be
involved
and
what
you
should
maybe
consider
as
you
move
forward
and
talking
about
budget.
So.
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Coming
from
real
estate,
that's
the
land,
the
structures
improving
on
the
land,
2017
total
valuation.
There
was
30
1.2
billion
dollars.
You
can
see
here
what's
happened
since
2004
in
that
presidential
value.
We
noted
on
here
the
years
of
the
reappraisal,
so
you
can
see
where
the
values
increase
and
why
they're
increasing.
So
one
thing
that
I
will
point
out
here
that
everyone
should
recognize.
Is
that
start
in
2006?
When
we
did
the
reappraisal?
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2006
starts:
that's
the
benchmark
for
you,
wherever
we
end
up
with
value,
that's
where
the
value
basically
will
stay
until
we
get
to
the
next
reappraisal.
So
what
you
have
in
between?
There
is
just
growth.
There's
no
real
reassessment
of
all
does
not
allow
us
to
reassess
properly
in
the
non
reappraisal
year.
The
only
thing
we
can
do
put
let's
pick
up
the
new
value
and
add
the
new
value
for
growth.
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So,
as
you
hear,
and
even
in
the
talks
here
this
morning
as
the
economy
has
increased,
you'll
see
the
values
start
increasing
just
for
growth,
so
what's
risky,
there
is
if
the
growth
remains
and
your
revenue
increases
every
year
because
of
the
growth
and
then
you
can
offset
any
additional
costs
that
the
county
may
have
related
to
services.
However,
the
risk
is
that
the
growth
either
slows
stops
or
even
goes
in
the
other
direction,
but
what
you
can
be
assured
of
is
that
continued
to
do
an
extra
appraisal.
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You
will
still
be
at
that
pretty
much
where
we
started
in
2006.
You
should
never
drop
back
anywhere
below
that,
so
we
go
to
13.
You
see
what
happened
in
13.
We
were
here
cause
of
the
recession.
We
dropped
back
in
13,
so
that
brings
your
overall
value
somewhat
back.
You
lose
some
value
that
we
gained
during
those
growth
periods
for
construction
and
for.
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Let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
it
was
mentioned
here
a
few
minutes
ago
that
median
sales
price
now
pink
was
published
as
a
January
1
2017
into
being
about
235,000.
We've
had
pretty
consistent
growth
and
appreciation
in
homes
10
12
%
across
across
Macomb
County.
So
that
brings
that
median
sales
price
up
275,000
and
that's
what
you
realize
when
that
happens
from
16
to
17
during
the
reappraisal.
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Same
years
same
reappraisal
years,
you
see
in
2006,
we
started.
We
had
that
growth
and
commercial
because
of
construction,
13
interested
enough.
You
didn't
get
13
bit
and
draw
back
a
little
bit
on
the
value
like
residential
did
during
the
reappraisal
commercial.
We
noticed
that
that
comes
States
somewhat
flat,
wouldn't
get
a
whole
lot
of
growth
hold
on
changing
rental.
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D
A
graph
you
would
never
really
probably
realize
that
this
really
happened,
but
from
14
to
17.
We've
done
nothing
but
really
with
this
now
the
values
not
huge
okay,
you're,
still
talking
about
from
220
million
to
320,
but
I,
will
support.
What
we
secured
earlier
is
that
most
of
that
came
from
beverage,
okay,
New
Belgium,
Belgium
warehouse.
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If
you're
operating
a
business
and
what
you
should
tell
us
every
year
on,
a
listing
form
is
what
is
the
value
of
your
computers,
your
office
furniture,
the
equipment
machinery?
You
should
be
listening,
not
with
us
or
for
taxes,
1.7
billion
dollars
was
a
total
valuation
for
2017
and
that
come
from
about
8500
accounts
that
we
assessed
from
that
value.
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Is
both
those
campers
utility
trailers
and
your
personal
property
manufactured
housing
that
makes
up
this?
This
is
the
trend
for
that,
and
you
will
see
again.
We
had
that
somewhat
of
a
decline
in
9
10
11,
and
then
we
started
coming
back
out
of
it
again
very
much
tied
to
the
economy.
I
mean
you
do.
Boat
motors
people
are
buying,
I
mean
you
can't
force
people
to
buy
and
utility
trailers.
So
when
the
economy
slows,
when
unemployment
drops
back,
people
are
not
buying
these
kinds
of
things,
because
these
some
water
everybody
needs
a
new
camper.
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These
folks
making
investments
14
to
15
was
the
year
that
cellular
towers.
So
here
a
company
started
to
listen
as
a
public
service
company.
We
we
used
to
assess
them
locally,
but
then
14
it
went
to
the
state
and
how
the
state
assesses
them
as
a
public
service
company.
So
public
service
took
a
little
bit
of
a
jog
up
there
to
show
that
value
again.
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Economy
very
risk.
You
know
very
receptive
to
the
economy.
If
the
economy
comes
back,
energy
doesn't
invest
in
money
in
their
facilities
as
Verizon
opening
a
new
towers
in
you
know
these
top
things
are
not
happening
and
you're
not
gonna,
see
growth
here
and
your
public
service
companies
public.
The
public
service
comes
a
little
bit
different.
How
that
operates
such
as
Duke
Energy
you're,
not
getting
dollar
for
dollar
and
value
as
they
put
the
money
into
the
plan.
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How
many
we
will
bill
and
one
each
year,
two
hundred
forty-seven
thousand
vehicles,
that's
2.2
billion
dollars
and
total
evaluation
for
2017
that
how
we
did
see
an
increase
there
again
you
see
what
happened
in
2011,
we
started
filling
the
results
of
the
recession.
People
were
buying
new
vehicles,
people
maybe
even
been
moving
out
of
the
county,
taking
their
vehicles
with
them,
not
Bears
turn
on
the
Buncombe
County
any
longer.
Then
it
starts
coming
back
and
then
we
get
a
big
influx
from
15
to
17.
So.
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So
I'll
give
you
a
little
bit
of
information
about
evaluation
by
your
district,
so
you
can
see
there
how
that
breaks
down
and
the
total,
where
it's
allocated
to
so
exemptions
currently
and
they'll.
Sin
arrests
in
to
most
people
that
elderly
exclusions,
we're
at
about
forty
five
hundred
residences
veterans,
we're
at
about
five
hundred
twenty
five
and
the
others
as
far
as
distinctions,
and
we
give
you
a
little
definition
here.
What
that's
about,
and
one
thing
to
point
out
that
I'm
trying
to
always
remind
people
is
that
just
because.
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Them
exempt
for
property
tax
exempt
from
property
tax
is
all
related
to
use.
Okay,
it's
about
what
you
use
the
property
for
not
about
your
IRS
status.
Okay,
it's
about
what
you're
using
the
property
for
you
can
see
here.
I'll,
give
you
some
examples
of
how
elderly
has
changed
the
trend
over
the
years.
Now
you
see
that
16
to
17,
but
that's
related
to
the
reappraisal.
You
got
to
remember
that
a
lot
of
these
people
are
getting
50
percent
or
their
value
excluded.
So
it's
value
increases.
Then
amount
is
going
to
increase
with
that.
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Well,
anything:
that's
like
chair,
okay,
we'll
look
at
ABC
seen
their
charitable
organization
what
they
give
to
the
community,
what
services
they
offer
so
they
are
exempt
based
on
the
fact
that
that's
what
they
do
for
the
community
they're
giving
something
to
charity
to
the
community,
the
churches.
You
know
they
are
their
religious
exemption,
so
those
are
the
type
there's
others
there's
many
many
different
ones,
okay,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
taught
to
charity.
If
they're,
not
religious,.
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Because
I
can
look
at
the
there,
they
are
not
in
competition,
okay,
they're,
not
selling
their
products
and
competition
with
anyone
down
the
street.
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
go
into
that,
but
we
look
at
where
the
money
is
going.
I
can't
be
paying
the
money
out
to
anyone.
It's
got
a
good
beat
way.
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A
couple
of
things
there
keep
in
mind
said:
there's
two
components
to
that
for
them:
if
they
rent,
then
they
need
their
business.
Assets
need
to
be
listed
and
they
would
be
exempt
on
their
business
assets
or
but
majority
of
them
do
not
own
the
building
and
to
know
they're.
For
you
to
is
that
they
are
not
the
building.
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A
little
bit
of
Tran
for
you
on
the
veterans
exemption,
so
that
has
somewhat
steadily
clients
is
to
increase
since
2013
and
I.
Think.
One
reason
that
we
relate
to
this
is
that
I
think
we're
doing
a
better
job
and
reaching
those
veterans
that
we're
reaching
out
to
them
and
we're
trying
to
get
that
information
out
for
their.
You
know
that
they
can
apply
for
this
thing
through
veteran
services
that
make
sure
they're
helping
them.
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Bad
credits
again,
this
will
follow
closely
the
reappraisal
because,
as
you
see,
it
dropped
in
2013,
because
the
overall
farm
values
dropped
in
2013.
So
then
it
goes
back
up
in
2017,
because
the
land
values
went
back
up
of
the
reappraisal,
so
that
will
closely
follow
whatever
we're
doing.
With
the
reappraisal
total
AG
credits.
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We're
currently
excluding
about
800
million
from
taxable
at
4500
residents
received
in
that
program.
So
let's
say
that
program
changed
this
year
and
they
we
increase
the
number
of
recipients,
because
their
income
level
changes
to
5500
well
know
that
those
4500
have
an
average
of
about
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars
each
in
exclusion,
so
you're
looking
at
taking
another
70
dollars
out
of
taxable.
If
that
program
was
to
change
I'm,
not
saying
one
way,
the
other,
if
that's
good
or
bad
I'm,
trying
to
give
you
an
example.
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If
that
did
change
what
that
would
mean,
you
know
to
you
and
what
that
would
mean
for
your
rate
because
of
the
change
in
revenue
saying
you
know,
there's
been
some
talk
for
a
while
that
the
veterans
would
change
that
we
go
there.
Forty
five
thousand,
maybe
as
to
as
much
as
a
hundred
thousand
on
that,
so
that
could
even
as
much
double
well.
That
exemption
would
be
I,
don't
think
that
got
any
traction.
I,
don't
know
where
it's
out
now.
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Very
good,
as
you
heard
from
someone
else,
not
just
me,
but
even
commercial.
The
growth
in
commercial
real
estate
is
very,
very
good,
because
we've
had
many
new
apartment
complexes.
New
hotels,
these
all
these
things
has
pushed
a
value
for
this
year.
However,
what
I
would
suggest
to
you
is
that
even
the
growth
you
may
see
this
year
is
that
we
consider
what
is
sustainable
growth
because
the
apartment
construction
will
slow
down,
hotels
will
slow
down.
We
was.
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1
any
year,
so,
let's
say
on
February
1
I
started
a
new
hotel.
Six
months.
That's
done
well.
There
is
no
tax
on
the
hotel
until
the
following
January.
Ok,
so
some
people
have
come
to
me
and
said:
oh,
oh,
that
hotel
is
done.
They
finished
it
September,
but
they
didn't
start
until
February.
Then
they
really
get
a
year
of
taxes.
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In
those
first
couple
of
years,
you
may
get
some
of
the
value
in
faces
before
you
get
all
of
them,
but
as
you
get
into
the
next
few
years,
and
you
start
capturing
all
that
value
I,
think
what
you
start
seeing
in
is
that
at
some
point
that
starts
leveling
off
again
as
people
slow
down
on
that
commercial
construction.
So.
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All
the
same,
so
you
take
out
a
construction
permit
to
build
a
residential
house
in
February.
You
finish
that
in
July
you
move
into
it.
You
still
would
not
be
taxed
on
it
until
with
the
next
beginning
of
the
next
year.
Okay,
so
January
1,
whatever
is
on
the
ground,
January
1,
that's
what
we
appraised
and
what
you
pay
tax
on.
So
there's.
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Actually
suppose
you
bring
about
us,
we
made
a
call
where
we
work
with
a
person
up
mission
to
help
us
establish
what
bagi
was
on
the
ground
as
a
January
1
of
this
year
and
that's
what
wheel
tax
for
this
year.
Okay,
there
was
some
there.
There
was
some
value
there
on
January
1,
so
we
reach
out
to
them
and
ask
them
to
assist
us
in
that,
so
they
can
kind
of
tell
us
where
they
were
at
cost.
At
that
point
and
we'll
start
then
add
in
the
value.
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Little
bit
so,
let's
say
that
corner
in
apartment,
complex
is
valued
at
thirty
million
dollars.
So
then
you
would
have
to
weigh
out
10
acres.
How
many
houses
can
you
get
on
that?
So
if
you
get
20
houses
on
10
acres
and
the
value
of
those
20
houses
probably
would
not
exceed
the
30
million
dollars
in
the
apartment
value.
So
you
have
to
figure
out
where
the
the
balance
is
there,
where
how
many
houses
it
would
take
to
make
that
greater
than
what
the
come
by
the.
D
D
I
think
that's
the
conversation
you
need
to
have
about
you
know
as
population
grows,
however,
real
estate
construction
did
not
grow
and
they're.
Only
those
growth
in
those
apartments
is
only
paying
property
tax
on
the
vehicle
they
make,
but
the
cost
for
services
to
support
that
population
increases
and
yes
with
the
typical
homeowner,
may
have
larger
burden.
F
D
C
F
M
He
touched
on
this,
but
I
wanted
to
circle
back
to
it,
just
for
a
minute,
because
I
think
I've
heard
some
confusion
from
our
tax
payers.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
all
clear
on
the
difference
from
tax
year
and
fiscal
year,
so
as
Keith
Newton
property
is
valued
as
of
January
1st
a
reappraisal
year.
So
if
it's
valued
as
of
January
1st
2017,
we
bill
it
in
August,
2017,
we've
crossed
into
another
fiscal
year.
So
then,
when
we're
collecting
for
those
bills
were
actually
we
will
be
collecting
in
fiscal
18.
M
So
in
I
think
we
had
a
number
of
tax
payers
that
came
in
during
the
peak
election
season
and
they
they
wanted
to
appeal
their
value.
So
this
is
why
I
thought
this
was
a
good
point
to
bring
up
again
just,
and
so
we
were
all
on
the
same
page,
certainly
as
I
walk
through
these
slides.
There's
a
number
of
topics
through
these
slides
and
I'm
a
balance
from
tax
year
to
fiscal
year
and
I
will
certainly
try
to
guide
and
speak
to
each
one
individually.
So
so
we
all
are
getting
the
same.
M
M
This
these
percentages
do
not
include
what
is
collected
by
the
North
Carolina
DMV
for
registered
motor
vehicles.
I
specifically
chose
these
percentages,
because
these
are
what
counties
are
responsible
for.
These
are
what
counties
bill
and
collect.
So
so
this
to
me
is
an
indication
of
what
we're
responsible
for
as
well.
M
So,
if
we're
considering
our
our
current
tax
year
fiscal
year,
2018,
a
tenth
of
a
percent
of
our
collection
rate
equates
to
over
one
hundred
and
eighty
three
thousand
dollars
if
our
collection
rate
dropped
to
that
p.r
average,
we
looked
at
for
fiscal
16
for
our
counties.
That
would
be
nearly
half
a
percent
drop,
which
would
be
approaching
a
million
dollars
of
revenue
production.
I
think
this
is
important.
I
also
want
to
mention
when
the
recession
hit.
M
We
have
a
we
focus
on
collection,
with
some
compassion,
we're
always
within
legislative
guidelines.
We
always
have
a
goal
of
collecting,
but
we
do
try
to
offer
our
taxpayers
a
payment
plan
that
fits
in
with
their
budget.
Now
that
we're
past
peak
collection
period
we're
very
actively
collecting,
what's
left
for
tax
year
17,
but
we've
also
set
up
many
payment
plans
with
our
tax
payers
who
are
already
working
on
their
2018
taxes,
so
we're
in
effect
working
in
two
years
very
actively
right
now
we
also
offer
an
automatic
direct
option.
This
is
completely
voluntary.
M
This
is
if
a
taxpayer
wants
to
sign
up
with
us
for
us
to
draft
their
bank
account
and
account
monthly,
so
they're
not
responsible
for
keeping
up
with
or
remembering
to
send
us
a
payment.
We
take
control
of
that
and
then
typically
those
that
are
part
of
an
automatic
draft.
They
re-enter
those
every
year,
so
they
don't
have
to
worry
about
their
taxes
being
paid
on
December
5th
or
they've
worked
this
out
with
their
budget,
so
they
feel
comfortable.
H
M
So
wanted
to
give
an
indication
of
what
is
the
Buncombe
County
portion
of
a
real
property
bill.
This
this
does
include
commercial,
industrial
and
residential.
There
were
almost
120,000
real
property
bills
generated
they
represented
169
point
4
million
in
real
property
levy,
the
average
of
those
bills
1414
dollars.
This
is
Buncombe
only
so
this
is
the
Buncombe
tax
portion.
M
It
does
not
include
the
municipalities
or
the
fire
districts
or
the
city
school
district,
so,
in
addition
to
Buncombe,
we
also
collect
for
the
city
of
Asheville
town
of
Black,
Mountain,
town
of
Woodfin
telemonitoring,
the
Asheville
City
School,
District
and
20
fire
and
rescue
service
districts
for
texture,
2017,
fiscal
2018,
we've
built
over
270,
seven
million
dollars
in
property
taxes.
Last
week
we
have
collected
269
million.
M
A
M
The
office
for
fiscal
year
17
this
is
the
revenue
that
represents
each
payment
top
we
were
I
want
to
continue
to
grow.
The
AP
mortgages
is
pretty
much
anything
in
escrow,
but
I
would
continue
to
like
to
continue
to
grow
the
IPE
portion,
because
that's
fewer
people
that
come
into
the
office
maybe
have
to
find
for
parking
or
stand
in
line.
So
that's
going
to
go
to
be
an
ongoing
effort
to
kind
of
get
those
that
word
out.
M
From
the
right,
but
I
just
want
to
give
us
that
shot
of
where
we
are
so
as
of
January
10th
date
of
delinquency
was
January
5th,
but
January
10th
is
when
we
have
everything,
processed
and
posted.
That
was
postmarked
on
her
before
January
5th.
Where
were
97.9.
Excuse
me.
Ninety
three
point:
seven
one
percent
collected
this
is
local
only
with
eleven
point:
five
million
dollars
outstanding,
February,
ninth
or
nearly
a
month
later
we
were
ninety-seven.
Almost
ninety
seven
point
one
percent
collected.
M
So
within
that
month
we
collected
quite
a
bit.
There
is
an
ongoing
effort
to
reach
our
tax
payers,
whether
whether
it
be
mailings
phone
calls
so
we're
trying
to
while
we're
we're
compassionate.
We
we
were
present.
We're
always
reminded
a
more
passionate
but
we're
system.
Yes,
are
there
any
questions.
H
M
M
We
will
be
advertising
any
March,
Indian
paints,
I
see
a
list
of
benefits,
Kathy
passed
along
for
me,
the
unpaid,
the
first
week
of
February,
those
aren't
required
to
be
advertised
and
through
from
March
until
June
is
our
advertising
window.
So
the
notice
that
went
out
last
week
that
I
referred
to
that
is
a
notice
of
advertising.
M
J
B
B
We
go
through
these
four
revenue
sources.
This
is
going
to
be
the
only
trend,
that's
going
to
sift
upwards
through
the
recession,
so
the
growth
Keith
from
Jeffrey
could
speaking
that
could
be
collection,
but
I've
highlighted
in
yellow
where
the
reappraisal
years
are
and
their
corresponding
tax
rates.
So
you
can
kind.
B
B
B
B
Talk
soon
from
us,
when
we
start
coming
at
you
with
budget
stuff,
we're
going
to
throw
an
example
up,
so
I
I
got
with
the
folks
in
tax
and
we
sifted
through
some
residential
tax
parcels
to
try
to
find
a
mean
valuation
of
a
home,
I
think
and
with
Tom
and
with
Keith
I.
Think
we've
been
talking
about
sales
prices,
but
we're
looking
here
at
just
strict
valuation.
B
C
B
B
About
the
biggest
revenue
source,
we'll
talk
about
your
government
later
with
Dianne.
Let's
talk
about
a
medium
revenue
source.
This
is
one
that
obviously
is
probable
to
the
Prince
of
the
economy,
statues
anything
they
decided
doing.
State
nine
point,
one:
four
percent
I
think
it's
good
to
note
that
I
didn't
know
this
a
tough
start
working
here,
but
so,
if
I
go
to
the
store
and
I
pay
for
something
that's
all
going
to
get
collected
at
that
store
end
of
the
month,
they're
going
to
send
that
to
the
state.
C
B
C
B
B
B
B
Straight
through
that
doesn't
stay
in
a
zero,
so
article
39
sales
tax
by
article
42
42
slide.
This
one
actually
comes
back
to
the
county
in
some
form
or
fashion,
so
we
go
repair,
seven
cents,
one
penny
of
that.
It's
going
to
get
thrown
at
the
state.
Today
it's
going
to
go
through
their
process
and
it's
coming
back.
50
percent
of
that
is
gonna
go
towards
school
capital
via
the
school
capital.
Commission
fun,
that's
our
fun
26,
the
other
half
of
that
is
going
to
go
to
the
25
districts.
B
B
B
C
B
B
B
Goes
to
the
state
gets
been
the
pool
right
so
state
has
all
these
crazy
metrics
that
they
use
and
they
have
some
sort
of
index
all
the
article
40
money
gets
pulled
together
and
then
it
gets,
kicked
back
out
and
be
a
population.
So
we
might
have
someone
come
here
and
then
that
one
that
half
cent
you
might
not
see
it
early
stall
it
so
article
42,
like
article
39,
does
show
back
up
in
the
county
know
so
60%
of
that,
like
article
40,
goes
to
fund
school
capital
via
average
daily
membership.
The.
A
B
F
B
B
D
C
B
C
B
F
K
B
F
B
B
C
B
We
go
hey.
We
want
to
lower
our
rates.
That
has
a
direct
relationship
with
each
other,
so
here
essentially
what
I
did
was
I
took
the
values
of
this
trend.
2017
and
I
applied
what
we
adopted
for
the
fire
districts,
actual
city,
school
state
revenue-neutral.
They
didn't
change,
so
you
can
see
here
that
I'll
kind
of
the
PI
was
sixty-two
million
dollars
or
twenty
nine
million
dollars
for
the
general
fund
and
of
course,
I'm
projecting
out
here
is
we've
all
got
four
months.
So,
when
I'm
looking.
A
B
C
B
B
B
C
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
F
Previous,
so
you
know
with
all
of
the
these
battles
and
hundreds
of
thousands
of
apartments
being
you
know,
constructed
and
permitted
I'm
surprised
that
the
values
are
seem
so
small
compared
to
you
know
other
commercial
and
single-family
permitting
I
mean
it's
like
I
mean
there's
just
so
much
being
constructed.
It's
like
what
we're
building
right
now
in
Buncombe
County,
so.
F
B
F
A
F
F
L
C
B
B
J
D
J
D
D
D
A
A
O
O
A
few
of
the
expenditure
areas
I'm
specifically
that
that
service
and
education
Diane
mentioned
earlier
that
we
continue
to
work
with
departments
around
the
fiscal
year.
19
budget
development
know
that
the
office
of
performance
management
and
budget
staff
continue
to
work
very
closely
with
departments
on
those
requests,
so
obviously
we'll
be
working
on
those
through
the
months
of
February
and
March.
O
O
When
it's
a
note,
so
the
blue
columns
represent
the
dollar
value
of
general
funds
committed
debt,
the
fiscal
year
2018
amount
is
the
adopted
budget
amount.
This
includes
several
items
in
which
this
board
make
decisions
to
pay
for
rather
than
finance
and
based
on
this
decision.
The
fiscal
year
18th
annual
debt
service
decreased
by
an
estimated
six
hundred
and
forty-one
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
with
the
total
estimated
interest
savings
of
1.5
million
dollars
over
the
course
of
that
financing
term.
For
those
items
so.
O
For
that
demonstration
here,
the
remaining
years
projected
do
not
include
those
amount
so
that
we've
actually
controlled
for
those
and
projecting
forward
to
2035.
So
the
office
of
budget
improvements
management.
We
also
continue
to
evaluate
with
departments
twenty-four
departmental
fiscal
year.
Nineteen
capital
request
that
total
of
potential
principal
dollar
amount
of
approximately
thirty
one
point.
Seven
million
dollars
currently
accounted
for
in
that
total
is
twenty
million
dollars
for
the
detention
facility
request,
as
well
as
four
point:
five
million
dollars
for
the
east
Asheville
library
ribbit.
O
It's
anticipated
that
they
that
there
will
be
a
budget
amendment
request
to
come
to
you
for
review
and
consideration
around
the
east
Asheville
library
prior
to
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
however,
know
that
the
senior
leadership
is
due
to
review
the
capital
request
at
the
end
of
February
early
March,
with
our
plan
to
bring
that
capital
plan
and
request
to
you
for
review
in
April.
Just.
E
M
M
H
M
O
O
O
Depicted
here
is
each
year's
total
contribution.
The
totals
are
broken
out
into
salary,
supplement,
supplement
dollars
and
the
light
blue
and
other
operating
expenses
in
the
dark
blue.
The
one
grey
box
for
fiscal
year
2016,
which
is
four
point.
Six
million
dollars,
is
a
one-time
dollar
amount,
approved
by
the
board,
as
a
transfer
from
the
general
fund
to
pay
debt
service
and
support
of
Asheville
City
Schools
Isak,
diction,
Dixon
and
Asheville
middle
school
capital
projects,
growth
in
budgeted
expenditures
from
fiscal
year.
Fourteen
to
fiscal
year,
eighteen
is
22
percent.
C
O
F
Well,
you
know
when
they,
when
they
came
to
us,
they
I
think
I
totally
agree.
We
should
look
at
that.
You
know
I
think
they
did
do
kind
of
a
pace,
study
analysis
in
the
region,
looking
at
the
neighboring
counties,
and
that
was
the
basis
for
some
of
the
recommendations
and
you
know
and
we
improved
what
they
asked
for.
So
that's
been
done
now
so
I
mean
not
to
say,
we
won't
ever
need
to
do
anything
ever
in
the
future,
but
my
sense
is
that
we
we
have
now
funded
what
they
school
right.
K
F
F
H
A
H
A
L
C
O
One
final
piece
and
obviously
may
be
important
as
we
continue
to
discuss
education
they're,
very
fine.
The
data
around
that
and
really
doing
a
drill
down
into
it.
I
did
on
display
in
the
very
top
corner
data
that
we
were
able
to
obtain
from
the
Department
of
Public
Instruction
on
Buncombe
County,
Asheville,
City
and
charter
schools
combined.
This
is
their
on
average
daily
membership
trend
from
2014
to
2018.
O
I
will
say
that
there
is
a
small
portion
which
I
believe
we've
not
been
able
to
account
for
and
I'm
still
trying
to
obtain
some
of
those
numbers
from
dpi
related
to
the
student
who,
we
believe
are
attending
the
virtual
academies
and
then
what
is
that
impact
in
terms
of
average
daily
inscription?
So
as
soon
as
we're
able
to
obtain
that
I'll
board
that
on
I
just
want
to
give
that
one
caveat
to
that
particular
trend.
O
E
A
A
Significant
budget
process
changes
that
the
manager
has
made
for
nineteen
already
covered
kind
of
February
March,
but
using
existing
resources,
the
county
manager
did
create
performance
management,
team
and
they've
really
become
a
crucial
part
of
the
budget
process
now
going
forward.
So
much
analysis
is
going
in
to
budget
requests
that
have
never
have
that
resource.
A
L
A
Make
up
about
84
percent
of
our
revenues,
so
that's
property,
tax
sales
tax
and
just
go
into
each
one,
a
little
bit
so
for
property
tax
revenue.
It's
really
calculated
by
a
formula
we
get
the
medicine
directly
from
the
tax
assessor,
which
is
then
multiplied
by
the
property
tax
rate
set
by
the
board.
Those
two
things
combined
give
us
the
levy,
and
then
we
work
with
the
tax
collector
to
see
what
collection
rate
she's
comfortable
with.
If
you
multiply
that
out,
that
gives
us
our
property
tax
revenue
estimate.
A
A
A
A
Some
of
the
risks
that
could
impact
sales
tax
are
the
economy.
Do
people
have
discretionary
spending
covered
the
18
month
like
legislative
changes
over
the
last
several
years,
it
has
seemed
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
target
of
the
General
Assembly
that
they
look
at
the
more
wealthy
urban
retail
hub
counties.
C
E
I
heard
that
that
west
of
makes
it
44
to
30%
of
people
on
their
home
on
their
own.
But
if
that's
true
and
if
that's
going
up
or
down-
and
that's
a
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
forecast
of
discretionary
spending,
because
I
mean
the
more
the
more
cash
flow
that
you
have,
the
mortgage
into
span
not
more
than
10,
say,
and
so
that's
part
of
that
calculation.
E
When
you
see
like
actual
outlets
and
they
can
relate,
they
can
even
just
pop
all
those
scores
off
26
because
they
can
see
it
in
my
26
and
was
part
of
it.
But
it's
also
part
of
it
was
they.
They
felt
comfortable
enough
with
the
discretionary
spending
on
County,
bring
that
big
machine
sales
tax
machine
there
and-
and
it
is.
L
E
K
Rate
since
we
collect
that
ourselves,
so
we're
going
to
see
if
there's
any
kind
of
direct
correlation
between
occupancy
tax
collections
and
if
it
goes
down
smells
tax
quarter.
So
sort
of
a
frost
sort
of
an
economic
indicator
is:
is
the
economic
engine
starting
to
slow
down
some?
So
those
are
kinds
of
things
that
we
hope
to
get
into
over
the
next
several
months
to
sort
of
what
are
those
drivers
and
we
measure
them
to
get
a.
A
E
C
L
A
A
January
talked
about
the
debt
service
shown
in
dark
blue
there
at
the
top
we're
able
to
go
ahead
and
calculate
the
baseline
debt
for
the
budget,
because
we
have
our
current
amortization
schedules
and
then,
once
the
capital
plan
comes
to
the
board
in
April,
we'll
get
your
guidance
on
what
projects
you
want
to
move
forward
and
we
will
adjust
the
budget
accordingly
for
the
anticipated
you've.
Also.
A
Those
are
still
being
worked
on
and
will
be
presented
to
senior
leadership
teams
between
now
and
March,
and
all
the
directors
will
be
in
attendance
for
their
piece,
so
they
can
speak
to
their
budget
and
their
requests
common
theme,
some
of
the
risks
to
expenditures,
include
the
economy.
That
would
be
true
because.
A
B
C
A
L
A
A
A
Do
and
and
that's
the
strategy
you
want
to
use
so
if
our
goal
is
to
lower
fund
balance,
you
look
at
the
bottom
section,
there's
a
couple
ways
to
do
that:
either
lower
expenditure
appropriations,
increase
revenues
or
some
combination
and
ice.
Well,
we
certainly
during
that
by
nineteen
budget
process,
want
to
true.
C
A
Any
revenue
and
expenditures
that
aren't
appropriately
budgeted
I'd
always
advocate
that
you
still
need
to
maintain
a
level
of
conservatism,
given
some
of
the
inherent
risks
that
we've
talked
about
today.
If
we're
too
aggressive
in
our
revenue,
estimates
venue
and
we
come
up
short,
then
we've
it's
been
fun
balance
if
you're
too,.
A
A
You
want
to
take
just
a
minute
and
pump
out
appropriated
funds.
This
chart
shows
the
adopted
amount
that
we
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
FY
18.
The
amount
is
quite
a
bit
larger
than
we've
done
in
the
past.
However,
this
budget
year
2018
board
has
taken
action.
These
are
all
the
budget
amendments
under
pathan
for
fund
balance
this
year,
so
we
have
been
able
to
reduce
it
all-
that's
1.1
million
dollars,
primarily
from
the
board's
decision.
C
A
Is
bill
Rockler
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
sure
you
know
this,
but
in
North
Colorado
we're
just
very
fortunate
to
have
the
UNC
School
of
Government,
it's
a
great
resource
for
us
and
all
the
various
disciplines
and
local
government,
and
he
is
the
director
of
the
MPA
program
and
also
their
resident
budget
expert.
We
invited
him
to
be
here
today
on
budget
processes
or
fun
balance,
but
he
had
to
teach
classes,
so
he
sends
her
grant,
but
he
did
share
some
materials
that
all
share
with
you.
So
this
is
just
the
legislation.
A
A
C
A
K
N
Of
course,
we
need
cash
result.
Cash
reserves
as
a
source
of
capital.
Financing
and
I
really
want
to
emphasize
this,
because
a
local
government
needs
to
maintain
a
sustained
balance
between
debt
financing
and
pay-as-you-go
financing
for
acquiring
capital
assets.
We
don't
want
to
rely
totally
on
debt
and
we
don't
want
to
rely
totally
on
our
cash
either
for
that
matter,
but
we
want
a
proper
balance
between
the
two
due
to
bring
on
the
necessary
capital
assets
to
move
our
communities
forward.
This
balance
takes
us
to
the
next
reason
as
well.
N
The
fifth
reason
I
want
to
mention
is
local
governments,
often
use
fund
balance
for
balancing
the
budget.
They
may
use
fund
balance
for
a
particular
capital
expenditure,
for
example,
or
they
may
just
use
it
to
close
the
gap
they
get
within
a
small
amount
to
balance
the
budget
and
they
put
in
an
amount
from
fund
balance
to
close
that
last
$50,000,
for
example-
and
this
is
widely
used,
particularly
within
our
larger
local
governments
and
I,
want
to
make
a
point
here
and
when
I'm
training,
elected
officials.
I
also
like
to
really
talk
about
this
point.
N
Just
because
you
use
fund
balance
to
balance
the
budget
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
your
fund
balance
is
going
to
decrease
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
Once
you
get
to
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
regardless
of
whether,
if
you
use
fund
balance
or
not,
to
balance
your
budget,
if
actual
revenues
exceed
actual
expenditures,
your
fund
balance
is
actually
going
to
increase
and
then,
finally,
in
North
Carolina.
This
is
absolutely
critical.
A
K
K
K
K
B
C
K
General
Services,
we
have
fuel
reserves,
and
so
we
measure
that
so
I
think
it
worked
out
to
be
about
something
like
fifty
eight
thousand
dollars
worth
of
fuel
reserve.
So
that
is
part
of
the
fund
balance.
The
other
part
of
fund
balance
is
the
stabilization
by
state
statute,
which
basically,
is
that
part
of
our
fund
balance.
It
really
has
already
been
spent.
We've
already
incurred
liabilities,
it's
where
we've
already.
It's
already
been
spent
on
something
else.
K
It's
just
showing
up
in
our
in
our
bank
account
so
to
speak,
and
then
we've
got
committed,
which
is
something
that
use
of
have
committed
the
county
to
spending
already
so
part
of
that
the
two
million
dollars
is
part
of
the
early
retirement.
I
entered
a
program
that
we
had
a
couple
of
them.
I
think
that
we
was
the
2015
we've.
K
A
K
We've
got
the
assigned
the
fifteen
point.
Three
million
dollars
is
actually
the
assigned
as
the
appropriated
funds
that
we
use
to
balance
the
budget.
The
Diane
just
talked
about,
and
then
the
unassigned
is
the
thirty
seven
point,
seven
million
dollars,
which
is
really
basically
unassigned.
It
sits
there
as
it
reserves.
If
you
want
to
go
the
next
slide.
So
normally,
when
we
have
those
discussions,
we
always
talk
about
our
reserves.
K
We
are
always
talking
about
what
we
measure
is
the
available
in
balance,
so
we
take
out
that
stabilization
by
state
statutes
and
we
take
out
the
non
spendable
or
I
also
find
that
committed
I
think
is
also
those
capital
projects
that
we've
already
specifically,
we
have
those
capital
projects.
We
already
know
we're
going
to
spend,
but.
C
K
We
we
have
discussion,
I
know.
Sometimes
we
throw
them
up.
You
know
that
that
bigger
amount
77
million
dollars
that
is
been
aesthetically
correct,
that
is
our
fund
balance.
But
when
we're
start
talking
about
reserve,
we
really
may
have
talked
about
those
things
that
were
that
you
as
a
board.
We
as
a
county,
have
control
of
them.
We
can
actually
come
up
with
the
cash
to
use
in
other
situations,.
K
Again,
just
sort
of
give
you
some
trained
information.
We
ended
fiscal
year,
2017
just
a
little
bit
above
what
we
projected
and
so
we're
looking
and
so
at
the
end
of
the
year,
as
a
percent
of
our
expenditures,
it's
18
percent.
Again,
you
know
your
policy
is
15
percent,
which
is
about
two
two
months
worth
of
operating
expenditures:
the
states,
the
states
requirement
and
I
use
that
loosely,
because
it's
not
really
state
law,
but
what
the
state
recommends.
The
LCC
recommends
us
8%,
which
is
about
1%.
K
No
one
is
around
that
8%
level.
I
will
say
if
you
are
in
that
8
percent
level.
You
probably
are
one
of
those
morning,
letters
that
bill
that
just
mentioned,
or
you
will
get
a
visit
from
the
local
government.
Commission
I
mean
if
you
want
to
go
again
and
again.
If
you
want
to
just
look
at
where
we
are
in
regards
to
our
pure
counties,
you
will
see
that
as
a
percent
we
are
down
here
at
about
18
percent.
K
We
are
among
our
peer
groups,
we
are
the
lowest
as
a
percent
and
so
I
think
right
where
we
should
be
I.
Think
the
50
percent
policy
is
a
good
policy.
I
think
one
thing
we
should
do
go
back
to
that
slide
before,
because
I
think
it's
important
so
looking
at
our
budget
projections
and
value
are
Diane
and
I
are
going
to
be
going
over
with
you,
the
next
meeting
sort
of
budget
projections
and
where
we
are
financially.
K
It
is
sort
of
looking
like
that
this
year,
where
we
are
going
to
land
where
we're
going
to
have
to
probably
eat
a
little
bit
of
fun
balance
just
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars.
How
that
affects
the
available
fund
balance
for
next
year.
We're
sort
of
projecting
out
anywhere
between
will
be
sixteen
point.
Eight
percent,
all
the
way
up
to
about
eighteen
look
go
back
to
the
other
slide
16.8%
anywhere
between
sixteen
eighteen
and
a
half
percent
is
where
we're
gonna
land.
What.
K
You
want
to
use
that
available
fund
balance
for
some
of
it.
They
just
that's
the
way
they
manage
it.
That's
where
their
comfort
level
is,
we
I
mean
our
sense,
is
the
15
percent
range
and
where
we
have
been
historically,
which
is
averaging
around
I.
Think
eighteen.
Ninety
percent,
historically,
is
a
is
a
reasonable,
reasonable
place.
One
of
the
things
we
need
to
be
careful
for
we
were
having
that
discussion
with
the
fire
departments,
and
one
of
the
fire
department's
is
that
they
had
the
reserves
a
little
bit
too
low
and
it
affected
it
affected.
K
Their
passion
flow,
so
part
of
it
again.
Our
cash
flow
is
not
level
across
the
year
it
spikes
in
November,
December
and
January,
and
then
we
have
to
operate.
We
have
to
spend
that
money
over
the
course
of
the
year
and
so
our
expenditures
sort
of
spiked
throughout
the
year
as
well.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
reserves
enough
cash
in
the
bank
to
cover
payroll
to
cover.
All
of
our
expenses
is.
K
K
C
E
C
E
K
To
look
at
that
so
I
think
the
policy
just
for
clarification
was
was
about
four
or
five
years
ago,
where
we
said
15%,
two
percent
it
was.
It
was
about
five
years.
It
was
in
a
budget
minute
that
I
budget
ordinances
are
read
within
about
the
last
five
or
six
years.
I
can
find
it
for
you,
but
I
think,
but
but
I
think,
but
again.
C
E
K
K
E
At
the
same
time,
it's
not
direct
to
you
as
District
in
this
okay.
Just
understanding
is
that
you
know
families
very
in
risk
every
day.
So
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
challenge
the
fund,
balance,
look
at
the
fund
balance
and
it
and
if
possibly
affect
the
rate
in
a
responsible
way,
then
the
families
that
are
struggling
it
can
be
a
help
to
them.
C
E
F
M
E
A
E
E
K
K
Where
I'm
comfortable
keeping
us
anywhere
between
that
15%
and
the
18%,
because
I
think
we
do
have
really
good
metrics
in
place
and
really
good
folks
keeping
an
eye
on
how
we're
spending
our
money
and
keeping
an
eye
on
that
so
I
feel
comfortable
with
that.
I
would
start.
Just
me
would
be
a
little
bit
more
uncomfortable
if
we
were
starting
to
go
lower
than
the
15%
and
I
think
the
15.
H
K
F
F
Been
the
one
budgeting
process
I
have
never
been.
You
know,
summer
makes
sense
to
me
and
they're
been
really
comfortable
with
it
that
we
annually
project
this
large
fund
balance,
use
and
routinely
do
not
waste
it
right.
So
and
I
know
that
you're
saying
other
counties
do
it,
but
to
me
it
just
seems
like
we
are
sandbag.
You
know
a
bit
more
than
we
should
in.
F
F
Realistic,
you
know
expenditure
over
the
course
of
the
year.
If
some
things
come
up
and
we
need
to
do
an
amendment
and
appropriate
some
more
money
for
things
that
come
up
then
I
think
we
can
do
that.
I
think
we
should
have
some
reasonable
contingency.
But
to
say
we
do.
You
know
eight
to
fifteen
million
dollars
every
year
and
then
routinely
don't
need
it
to
me.
It
means
we're
we're
fudging,
we're
fudging
it.
We
don't
agree
with
you
and
we
should
that's.
E
K
C
K
K
K
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
for
you
with
the
fire
department
will
start
acute
gathered
all
their
financial
information
over
a
period
of
time.
We're
doing
that
same
thing
with
the
school
systems
now
we're
taking
their
their
financial
information
and
work.
So
we
can
sort
of
drill
down,
so
we're
not
always
having
to
ask
them
the
questions
that
we
are
trying
to
learn
their
systems
and
how
they
how
they
are
spinning.
So
we
can
better.
K
G
If
we're
going
to
look
at
the
fund
balance
and
really
because
it's
only
fair
to
test
taxpayers
but
face
because
when
we
can
the
to
hide,
I've
said
this
before
it's
affecting
what
people
are
paying,
but
if
we're
really
gonna
look
at
it
and
be
fair
about
it,
we've
got
to
include
school
unbalancing.
We've
got
a
look
at
the
toe
front
balance.
Our
funds
are
going
in
there
because,
when
you
add
the
what
the
schools
are
holding
over
this
actually
a
high
Frankie.
Yes.
K
We
do
from
the
MTA
NC
ACC,
they
actually
there's
a
list
and
it
shows
all
the
school
systems
throughout
the
state
that
have
come
out
and
what
those
fund
balance.
So
that's
not
unique
to
Buncombe
County
and
what
you
think
that
we're,
namely
County,
Schools,
that
yet
up
damn
every
every
school
across
the
state
has
think.
F
F
F
Good,
you
know
they
make
this
point
that,
like
you
know,
hey
we
have
times
where
cash
flow
is
tighter,
so
I
would
really
like
to
see
you
know
the
last
few
years.
How
tight
does
it
get
like
during
the
tightest
parts
of
the
year,
because
I
don't
think
we
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
for
like
for
retain
things?
F
You
know
paying
teachers,
you
know
routine
expenses
where
they
really
are
at
risk
of
running
out
of
money,
and
they
have
to
come
to
us
and
I
mean
we
don't
want
to
have
to
do
from,
but
but
we,
but
if
it
really
doesn't
get
that
tight,
like
that
made
the
tightest
it
ever
gets,
is
9
million
dollars.
Then
it
seems
like
there
is.
We.
K
K
M
M
F
Their
request
and
there's
always
some
stuff
in
there.
That's
like
important.
You
know
that
we're
we
want
to
do
and
we
wanted
to
do
stuff
around
teachers
certified
and
certified,
but
then,
but
then
this
it
gets
kind
of
blended
in
with
this
debate
about,
should
they
can
they
take
it
out
of
fund
balance
and.
K
K
Say
you
know
the
years
we've
had
a
decent
relationship,
but
we
never
really
have.
You
know
developed
that
really
good
relationship,
I
think
through
the
school
capital
fund
Commission,
we
really
have
had
a
sort
of
more
involvement
with
them
and
I
think
we're
developing
those
relationships.
So
hopefully.
E
E
E
H
K
I
F
The
thing
that
I
think
in
me
needs
to
be
kept
in
mind
when
you
look
at
this,
that
our
real
estate
Pro,
you
know
our
real
estate
values
are
high.
So
you
know
that
this
doesn't
make
us
look
very
good.
But
if
you
have
the
same
house
in
Forsyth
County
that
you
have
a
Nashville,
it's
gonna
be
worth
half
as
much
and.