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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners Pre-Meeting (Oct. 15, 2019)
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Pre-Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners from Oct. 15, 2019. Pre-Meetings take place on the day of Regular Commission meetings at 3p.m. at 200 College St. in room 326 in downtown Asheville. No public comment is taken, and no actions are voted on by the board during these meetings.
A
Are
there
any
other
items
that
any
commissioners
want
to
discuss
at
the
meeting
this
afternoon?
All
right
I
need
to
make
an
announcement
at
four
o'clock.
I'm
gonna
have
to
briefly
step
out
for
just
a
few
minutes
to
take
a
call
that
as
scheduled,
that
could
not
be
scheduled
any
other
time
and
Jasmine
will
facilitate
during
that
time.
I
hope
they'll
just
be
gone
for
a
minute
or
two
all
right.
Let's
get
started
so
first
up,
we've
got
Tim
love
with
us,
and
we've
got
Rebecca
Ryan
on
the
phone.
So
Tim
are
you
gonna.
C
D
D
A
B
F
D
Then,
at
our
last
meeting
we
identified
these
wildly
important
goals
and
the
core
question
was
all
right:
if
every
department
currently
in
Buncombe
County,
operated
at
current
levels,
what's
one
area
where
change
would
have
the
greatest
impact
and
you
generated
a
whole
bunch
of
wigs
that
were
written
in
this
way
they
started
with
a
verb.
We
were
trying
to
move
from
X
to
Y,
measuring
based
on
outputs.
We
wanted
these
to
be
simple
so
that
they
could
be
easily
understood
and
things
that
we
could
match
up
current
and
future
investments
and.
C
D
And
then
we
reminded
everybody
to
focus
on
what
not
on
how,
but
on
what
so,
the
wig
tallies
that
we
ended
up
with
I
need
to
just
do
a
quick,
stop
share
and
find
this
other
document.
The
leading
tallies
that
we
ended
up
with
totaled
15,
and
these
you
do
a
screen
share
again
here.
You've
got
these
these
for
the
second
page
of
your
handout,
and
the
first
thing
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
visit
with
you
about
today
is
this
is
a
is
a
potential
clarification,
a
pretty
significant,
missed
possible
misunderstanding.
D
So
I'm
now
showing
you
the
you
know
the
wigs
in
the
four
focus
areas
and
when
we
tallied
up
the
votes
and
you'll
remember,
commissioners
had
yes
votes
and
no
votes
and
staff
department
leaders
had
yes
votes
and
no
votes
and
under
vibrant
economy.
The
current
winner
is
to
increase
median
income
to
increase
the
median
income
in
Buncombe
County,
but
there
may
have
been
a
significant
misunderstanding.
D
If
you
look
at
the
second
one
under
vibrant
economy,
increased
sales
tax,
five
percent
year-over-year,
it
had
11
staff,
no
votes
and
in
talking
with
Commissioner
Belcher,
we
think
there
may
have
been
a
misunderstanding.
The
intention
of
the
wig
was
to
increase
sales
tax
receipts,
don't
come
by
5
percent
year-over-year
revenue.
D
Right
revenue,
not
that
the
Commission
would,
you
know,
pass
a
law
requiring
additional
sales
tax.
So
this
feels
like
a
significant
misunderstanding,
and
if,
if
that
is
the
case,
that
the
staff
misinterpreted
it
or
even
the
commissioners
misinterpreted
it,
we
mean
we
may
want
to
go
back
and
do
another
another
poll
back
on
that.
B
Well,
you
know
you
and
I
had
a
discussion
about
that
and
that
at
our
table
it
was
very
clear
that
what
we
were.
We
were
using
this
as
a
measure
of
increased
spending
in
in
the
county
and
that
increased
spending
is
a
direct
indicator
of
a
of
a
improving
economy.
You
could
use
the
word
strong
economy.
You
could
use
a
lot
of
different
terms,
but
by
any
metrics
of
any
economist
it
is
a.
It
is
clearly
an
indicator
of
growth
and
I.
D
Sounds
good
all
right,
very
good,
so
we
will
go
back
to
staff
and
clarify
that
and
you
know
so
that
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
this.
Could
change
which
wig
shows
up
in
vibrant
economy
because
of
that
huge
number
of
no
votes
in
the
staff
area.
So
I'll
report
back
as
soon
as
we
know
more,
but
we
do
want
to
get
this
nailed
down
because
we're
planning
on
going
to
the
public
in
the
very
near
future
for
feedback
on.
So
while
the
important
goals
yeah,
you
know
we.
B
B
D
Median
is
definitely
a
better
metric
than
mean
you
know
mean
is
just
the
gross
average
median
throws
out
the
top
throws
at
the
bottom
and
you
know,
counts
it
into
the
very
center.
So
that
is
a
better
metric
but
again
we'll
sort
of
see
where
the
staff
ends
up
on
that
alright,
so
coming
back
then
to
sorry
I,
my
deck
started
over
at
the
top.
D
Let
me
get
to
your
next
slide
here.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
love
you
with
whom
I
met.
Last
week,
we
talked
about
the
new
2025
goals,
were
the
top
rated
wigs
and
highlighted
in
red.
Here
were
the
the
pets
of
't
wigs
that
were
the
from
X
to
Y.
You
know
where
we
really
started
to
think
about
what
data
points
we
would
like
to
see
measured
over
the
next
five
years.
So,
as
you
can
see,
not
all
of
these
have
been
completely
stressed
out.
You
know
there
are
questions.
D
D
B
Just
give
a
minute
on
some
of
the
some
of
the
verbage
in
the
in
the
wigs
goals
might
not
necessarily
be
where
we
end
up,
for
example,
in
the
bottom
left,
where
it
says,
maintain
the
acreage
of
farm
and
undeveloped
lands,
I
think
most
or
all
of
the
the
commissioners
are
concerned.
I
certainly
am
about
the
amount
of
farmland
that
we
have
in
Buncombe
County
and
in
looking
at
ways
that
that
we
can
can
preserve
that.
B
You
know,
and
still
you
know,
allow
the
growth
that
that's
necessary
and
the
in
in
in
Buncombe
County
and
the
way
that's
written
it
kind
of
written
like
it
would
have
to
be
exactly
where
it's
at
right
now,
and
so
you
know
you
might
give
you
know
30
seconds
on
the
on
the
verbage
and
it
that
that's
kind
of
a
living
document
to
an
extent
right.
That's.
D
What
that's
a
really
excellent
point
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
this
again
a
bit
later,
but
the
idea
here
is
the
commissioners
have
captured
the
spirit,
I
think
of
what
these
wigs
can
be.
Now
the
question
is
how
we
refine
them.
Some
of
that
is
on
you
as
the
Commission.
Some
of
it
is
on
staff
to
do
a
good
job,
researching
what
you
know,
what
the
X
to
Y
is
and
what
it
could
be,
and
some
of
it
is
on
the
community
right.
D
So
one
of
the
things
that
Commissioner,
Belcher
and
I
talked
about
and
I
think
it's
been
built
into
the
engagement
plan
is
making
sure,
for
example,
that
we
have
farmers
and
people
who
work
in
Ag
help
us
get
that
wording
right.
So
yeah,
it's
it's
a
good
point.
It's
a
living
document
at
this
point
Thanks,
you
bet
absolutely
so
at
this
point,
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we
sort
of
dock
our
current
wigs
with
other
priorities
that
the
Commission
has
already
identified
so
on
this
house.
C
D
For
elderly
to
programs
and
services
like
mountain
mobility
and
assure
all
children
have
literacy
skills
they
need.
The
early
childhood
fund
has
put
an
even
finer
point
on
that.
Second
wig
right
to
increase
third
grade
literacy
rate,
so
I
wonder
how
you
as
commissioners,
feel
about
some
of
the
larger
and
more
prioritized
investments.
You've.
D
How
we
DOX
goes
in
here
one
option
would
be
sort
of
what
I've
just
done,
which
is
use
a
different
color
to
indicate
the
things
that
are
already
being
worked
on
by
2025,
for
example,
I
believe
there's
another
goal
around
reducing
the
channel
population
and
we
could
dock
that
under
resident
well-being.
That
would
do
two
things
one.
D
It
would
show
the
public
that
the
previous
strategic
priorities
didn't
just
get
thrown
up
in
the
air,
but
that
they're
there
reflected
in
these
four
focus
areas,
and
it
would
allow
so
that
there
were
two
that
would
allow
some
continuity,
but
it
also
gives
some
validation
for
the
things
that
you're
already
working
on
and
how
they
drive
up
into
these
focus
areas.
I'm
not
attached
to
this
at
all,
but
several
of
the
commissioners
and
our
one-on-ones
asked
about
this-
wondered
about
it
and
wanted
to
have
some
more
reflection
like.
Are
these
the
right?
I
But
we
got
there
sort
of
a
different
way.
So
to
me,
it
would
feel
like
exciting
and
very
natural,
not
just
natural,
but
really
critical
step
in
the
process
to
kind
of
do
that
docking,
and
it
feels
also
excitingly
like
each
of
the
areas.
We're
doing
that
really
focused
work
on
certainly
includes
sustainability
and
their
renewable
energy
fits
very
naturally
under
the
focus
areas.
We've
we've
built
into
this
house
so
to
speak.
So
I'm
really
excited
about.
J
B
Rebecca
to
me,
you
know
what
I
like
about
you
know.
What
I
like
about
process
is
the
wig
x2y
by
wind,
as
you
know,
that
X
to
Y
by
win,
puts
accountability
and
whatever
these
goals
end
up
being
you
know,
Earhart
may
tell
us
that
we
want
to.
We
want
to
take
care
of.
You
know
the
kids.
We
want
to
take
care,
the
elderly.
D
Agree
with
you
and
one
of
the
as
I've
been
looking
at
some
of
the
strategic
priorities.
For
example,
one
of
the
the
concerns
I
have
I'm
not
concerned
about
the
strategic
priorities,
but
the
way
the
formula
is
really
about
outputs
right.
So,
whatever
we
pull
forward
as
a
wildly
important
goal,
as
you
said,
from
X
to
Y,
those
are
the
outputs
by
2025
in
our
case,
working
on
a
five-year
strategic
plan.
That's
what
we
I
think
we'd
really
have
to
zero
in
on.
D
If,
in
fact,
we
do
want
to
dock
some
of
these
things
together,
and
that
requires
you
know
a
conversation
because
something,
for
example,
increasing
like
flats
in
early
childhood
or
just
building
more
affordable
housing.
That's
an
input,
not
an
output,
so
we
would
just
want
to
be
thoughtful
about
how
to
think
about
the
outputs,
not
just
the
input
with
the
output.
D
A
B
Got
I've
got
one
last
comment:
Adam
I,
guess
I,
guess
I
drink
too
much
caffeine
today
or
something
Rebecca
I'm.
Sorry,
but
you
know
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
that,
when
we
end
up
on
our
on
our
wigs
that
they're
specifically,
you
know
their
bunk
they're
they're,
very
clearly
tailored
to
the
entirety
of
Buncombe
County
and
that
they
don't
they
don't
look
like
though
they
could
have
some
components
of
you
know,
for
example
the
the
chamber
or
the
5x5,
or
you
know
or
Asheville's
you
know
priorities.
B
D
I
appreciate
that
and
the
reference
on
this
particular
slide,
the
AVL
5x5
will
be
removed
when
it
goes
to
the
public.
This
is
just
an
error
on
my
part:
I've
been
juggling
so
darn
many
of
these
versions
of
this
that
I
missed
it
on
this
one,
but
yeah
that
that
for
sure
will
be
taken
out
and
I
appreciate
your
comment
about
it,
just
being
an
inclusive
process.
D
Okay,
a
couple
other
things,
maybe
pretty
quickly.
We
talked
about
docking
the
two
things
together
and,
what's
possibly
missing
a
couple
of
small
refinements
environmental
stewardship.
The
recommendation
was
since
one
of
the
wigs
is
about
greenhouse
gases
to
change
the
heading
to
environmental
and
energy
stewardship.
D
Commissioner
Belcher
already
mentioned
that
we
need
some
help.
Getting
the
words
right
for
maintain
acreage
of
farmland
and
I've
talked
with
the
staff,
and
we
know
that
they
have
been
built
into
the
engagement
process
and
then
the
final
question
is
around
increasing
public
trust
runners
at
commissioners.
In
our
conversation
said,
you
know,
is
this
really
something
that
we
can
control?
You
know?
D
A
Yeah,
you
know,
I
am
I,
think
that's
a
great
point.
Rebecca
the
I.
Still
you
know,
I
I
mean
increasing
public
trust
would
be
an
outcome
of
doing
things.
The
right
way
right,
so
I
I
think
that
we
should
I
mean
I'm
not
against
having
something
that's
sort
of
explicitly
talking
about.
You
know
something
in
you
know
about
this
issue,
but
in
a
way,
just
kind
of
saying
increase
public
trust
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
feel
quite
right
to
me
to
me
it's.
It
seems
more
about
wanting
to
create.
A
You
know
an
organization
that
runs
based
on
the
highest
ethical.
You
know
standards
that
that
we
can
and
if
we
do,
that,
I
think
we'll
earn
trust
right.
So
to
me
it's
sort
of
about
creating
a
culture.
You
know
working
based
on
the
highest
ethical
principles,
I'm
just
kind
of
thinking,
I'm
top
of
my
head.
It's
sort
of
more
about
that
and
then
I
think
the
trust
the
trust
comes.
A
F
This
is
one
area
I
go
along
with
what
we
have
increased
the
public
trust,
because
folks,
we
got
to
remember,
look
at
where
we've
come
from
and
what
we're
still
going
through
and
we've
got
to.
Let
the
public
know
that
we
are
serious
about
regaining
the
public
trust
and
when
you
look
at
the
next
five-year
plan,
it'll
probably
take
us
that
long
to
completely
get
it
back,
but
I
do
think.
We
can't
ignore
that
and
we
need
to
I
think
you
need
to
say
in
me.
I.
H
Agree
with
Commissioner
Whitesides
I
think
it
needs
to
stay
in
there
in
some
form
or
fashion
I'm,
not
sure
this
is
the
right
place
for
it,
because
it.
How
do
we
measure
it
I
do
think
it
needs
to
be
in
there
and
I
think
if
we
are
following
the
plan
and
meeting
our
outcomes
and
showing
real
results,
it
does
start
to
build
public
trust.
We
give
residents
access
to
services,
you
know
accessible,
transparent
dashboards.
A
lot
of
that
starts
to
come,
but
we
can't
measure
it
so.
B
It
has
to
be
X
to
Y
by
wind
and
then
that's
kind
of
what
makes
that
a
little
bit
a
little
bit.
You
know
crazy,
but
certainly
everybody
agrees
that
error
ultimate
goal
is
to
distance
to
do
that
and
that's
what
we
want
to
be
able
to
do.
Maybe
that's
not
a
bad
spot
to
kind
of
bring
that
out
in
the
plan.
K
I
Kind
of
I'll
and
similar
to
where
Robert
and
brownie
are
in
terms
of
feeling,
like
maybe
there's
some
work
to
do
on
the
wordsmithing
of
this
I
I
can't
come
up
with
it
in
this
moment,
but
it
I'm
glad
we're
spending
some
time
on
this
because
it
it
does
feel
like
we're
not
quite
capturing
and
I.
Think
I
mean
I,
think
I'd
sort
of
echo
what
our
brownies
saying
in
terms
of
I
think
good
good
ethical,
transparent
governance
and
county
services
that
deliver
our.
I
A
F
F
L
D
D
List
great,
so
just
the
final
confirmation
is
when
these
wigs
go
out
to
the
public,
as
I
mentioned,
they
will
not
have
when
they
go
to
the
public.
They
will
not
have
from
X
to
Y
by
win,
because
we
don't
want
that
to
be
a
distraction,
but
we
do
want
to
ask
the
public.
What
does
success
look
like
in
this
week?
You
know
they
have
suggestions
on.
You
know
what
what
the
data
should
be
or
how
to
how
to
reword
it,
for
example
with
respect
to
the
one
that
Commissioner
Belcher
was
talking
about
earlier.
I
Rebecca
this
is
Jasmine
if
we
could
actually
just
rewind
for
one
sec.
I
had
one
more
question:
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
put
on
the
table
before
you
go
into
the
final
questions,
which
was
so.
This
is
I'm,
really
glad
we're
having
this
conversation-
and
it's
really
the
first
time
has
a
commission
we're
getting
to
discuss
kind
of
the
tallies
that
happened
through
the
exercise
and
really
appreciated
what
that
exercise
did
for
peace.
I
A
peace
of
mind
I
would
find
it
helpful
if
we
sort
of
did
one
more
pass
of
the
wigs
that
were
created
through
that
workshop
and
just
to
see.
Do
these
all
really
feel
like
the
prayer,
the
wigs.
We
want
to
be
elevating
as
our
top
priorities
in
the
next
five
years.
It's
assuming
they
will
be
supplemented
by
wigs,
reflecting
our
current
strategic
priorities
where
we
have
the
most
momentum
and
I
think
in
just
to
start
with
we're
where
I
land
is
to
me.
B
I
Like
so
specifically
when
I
read,
increase
access
for
elderly
to
programs
and
services,
like
mountain
mobility,
that's
really
important
I!
Just
wonder
if
there's
a
wig
that
might
be
more
salient
for
elderly
community,
like
decrease
rates
of
certain
conditions
among
elderly
community
or
if
there's
something
that
that
which
we
would
do
by
increasing
access
to
these
programs,
but
there's
actually
a
more
salient
sort
of
precise.
I
Peace
and
that
one,
so
that's
when
I
keep
coming
back
to
is
it
feels
like
this.
Of
course
we
want
to
do
something
around
serving
our
elderly
community
members,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
just
increasing
access
to
the
programs
quite
nails
on
the
head
quite
hits
the
nail
on
the
head
of
what
that
is.
Okay,.
B
So
so
here's
here's
my
comment
and
I
and
I.
Don't,
as
commissioner
Whiteside
said,
I
don't
want
us
to
be.
You
know
talking
way
over
the
head
of
I
mean
we
got.
We
got
to
drill
this
down
to
where
were
the
average
person
who's
not
been
through
Franklin,
Covey
or
whatever
you
know
can
understand
it.
But
could
you
speak
just
a
moment
to
lead
measures
in
lag
measures
and
are
we
going
to
be
using
those
because
some
of
the
things
that
Commissioner
Ferrara
is
talking
about?
D
D
B
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
get
into
a
long
conversation
of
it,
but
it's
it's
it's.
Basically.
You
know
part
of
some
of
the
things
that
we're
concerned
about
I'm
I'm
thinking
are
going
to
come
up
in
the
measurements
and
be
part
of
of
how
we
achieve
that
wig
and
those
things
that
we're
looking
at
so
in
layman's
terms,
I
mean
that's,
that's
pretty
much
the
way.
I
understand
you
know
those
measures
is
that
close
I've
slept
sense
of
this
I.
D
D
D
B
Answer
or
you
know,
Commissioner
for
ours-
concern
which
I
I
mean
I
I
was
thinking.
Some
of
the
measures
would
probably
do
that,
because
we
can.
We
can
drill
these
weeks
to
death.
To
me
it
seems
if
we
can
just
get
the
language
on
them.
You
know
to
where
we're
comfortable
with
them
and
we're
probably
really
pretty
close.
D
You
know
that
would
it's
interesting
too,
because
I
think
the
other
thing
that
that
solves
for
is
some
of
the
previous
strategic
priorities.
I
think
there
is.
There
is
language
and
some
of
those
things
around
some
of
the
leading
measures
that
produce
the
lagging
outcome,
and
so
it
might
be
again
kind
of
under
that
notion
of
docking.
The
two
things
together,
I
think
it's
I
can
I
can
work
directly
with
you,
Commissioner
Beach,
for
because
I
think
it's
gonna
help
solve
both
two
issues.
Talking
more
about
this.
I
I
A
I
think
each
of
the
I
think
each
of
the
goals
needs
more
discussion
in
terms
of
exactly
what
we're
saying
right.
I
mean
they're
just
these
headlines
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
capturing
as
well
as
you
possibly
can,
when
you're
summarizing
some
big
complicated
issue
into
like
a
something.
That's
not
a
whole
lot
more
than
a
bumper
sticker.
So.
A
These
probably
warrants
that
some
more
I
mean,
just
as
an
example,
I
mean
I've
got.
You
know,
opinions
about
the
greenhouse
gas,
one
I'm
glad
we
have
one
but
I,
don't
think
that's
the
exact
right
language
and
in
the
you
know,
expand
and
maintain
cultural
and
recreational
assets.
So
that's
that's
pretty
broad
right,
like.
A
Think
each
one
of
these
with
you
know
kind
of
goals,
probably
needs
a
little
bit
were
thought
about.
What
are
we
really
trying
to
say
with
at
this
point,
but
I
think
the
topics
are
good.
I
just
think
it's
kind
of
about
you
know
you
can
sussing
out
the
language
to
make
sure
it's
it's
the
best
we
can.
We
can
do
well.
B
They're
not
way
again
and
part
of
that
is
getting
the
scientific
language
right
and
to
the
Chairman's
point
and
I
think
I've
mentioned
this
before
I.
Don't
want
these
to
be
national
headlines
or
national
buzz
words
or
whatever
these
needs
to
be
Buncombe
County,
clearly
defined
wildly
important
goals
that
we
care
deeply
about
that
are
measurable.
D
Guess
that
I
would
just
ask,
is
if
we're
in
the
ballpark,
if
we're
in
the
spirit
of
what
we
talked
about
in
September,
to
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
leniency,
because
but
engagement
process
is
going
to
also,
you
know,
be
another
whole
source
of
data
and
input
so
that
when
we
come
back
together
in
November
we're
going
to
have
a
much
cleaner
and
more
organic
representation
of
these
wigs.
That's
what
I
would
ask
yeah.
A
A
M
Max
is
pulling
up
there.
It
is
a
presentation
for
you.
So
the
item
before
you
is
information
about
the
art
Lester
highway
transit
extension,
as
you
mentioned,
if
you'll
recall
back
in
December
of
2018
I
came
before
the
board
and
gave
a
presentation
just
informing
the
board
about
the
city's
recently
adopted,
transit
master
plan
and
this
transit
master
plan
is
intended
to
be
a
guide
for
the
city
of
Asheville
as
it
looks
to
shape
and
define
where
bus
service
will
be
going
in
the
future.
M
Further
out
west
or
highway,
and
so
the
city
has
formally
communicated
a
request
for
some
funding
support
from
Buncombe
County,
with
the
purpose
being
to
extend
the
existing
w-4
route,
which
is
going
to
be
part
of
a
combined
West
East
one
route
that
would
go
beyond
the
city
limits,
so
these
will
be
miles
operating
outside
of
the
city's
jurisdiction.
This
was
based
on
a
recommendation
from
the
transit
master
plan,
the
request
for
funding
with
support
service.
That
would
start
on
January
5th.
M
As
I
mentioned,
it
will
be
a
2
mile
extension
of
the
existing
route
service.
There
will
be
four
additional
signed
stops.
The
operating
hours
are
are
listed
there
there,
they
vary
Monday
through
Saturday
versus
Sunday
service,
which
is
more
constrained
and
limited,
and
according
to
the
master
plan
that
particular
loop,
that
extension
of
one
mile
would
serve
an
additional
690
residents
and
is
estimated
to
serve
a
hundred
and
ninety
different
employment
opportunities
or
jobs.
I
want
that
corridor.
M
This
is
a
map
from
the
actual
master
plan
which
shows
the
general
location
of
the
routing.
The
current
route
ends
just
prior
to
leicester,
highways
intersection
without
County,
home
road
and
the
extension
will
be
adding
a
loop
along
old,
County,
home
road
and
then
coming
back
on
to
Leicester
Highway.
So
you
can
see
the
route
there
for.
B
M
They
have
proposed
four
stops,
so
the
city's
fixed
route
service
does
stop
at
designated
locations.
I
want
to
point
out
where
those
would
be,
but
also
just
to
give
you
a
perspective
of
some
of
the
locations
are
surrounding
that
route
that
might
be
of
interest
or
points
of
kind
of
locating
where,
where
the
route
extension
was
proposed,
there
would
be
a
stop
at
the
base
of
the
entrance
of
urban
middle
school
and
then
also
there's
an
elderly
apartment,
complex
villas
at
fallen,
spruce,
there's
an
additional
apartment,
complex
further
out
list
or
highway.
M
So
this
gives
you
kind
of
an
idea
of
where
those
locations
are,
and
you
can
see
clearly
that
all
of
the
route
extension
is
outside
of
the
city's
limits
and
for
further
perspective.
So
the
orange
mapping
here
would
be
kind
of
what
one
might
anticipate
a
citizen
would
utilize
to
walk,
maybe
to
access
these
points.
M
This
is
just
conjecturing
how
that
might
actually
work
the
issue
that
you'll
see
in
this
area,
one
this
is
a
kind
of
a
distance
of
those
Maps
routes,
so
you
can
get
an
idea
about
how
far
away
a
citizen
will
travel.
One
is
that
there
is
a
lack
of
pedestrian
infrastructure,
so
there
aren't
sidewalks
you're,
not
gonna,
find
a
lot
of
crosswalks
in
that
area.
So
we
imagine,
people
will
be
using
other
means,
not
necessarily
traveling
along
the
road
corridors
to
get
where
they
can
get.
But
this
gives
you
an
idea.
M
So
that's
giving
you
some
perspective
on
distance
I
think
they
are
from
the
existing
stops.
Some
of
the
other
locations
are
kind
of
on
that
upper
end.
West
Buncombe
Elementary
Evelyn,
Intermediate
School
and
the
Williams
Baldwin
teacher
campus,
so
they're
on
that
upper
end
of
what
might
be
a
reasonable
travel
time,
but
with
access
to
transit.
You
can't
always
rule
that
out
necessarily
but
again
wanted
to
go.
Give
you
kind
of
an
idea
of
where
them
where
the
routing
is
located.
What's
approximate
to
it
and
general
distances
from
those
locations
to
the
proposed
stops.
M
So
the
cities
that
provide
information
on
their
funding
request.
So
basically,
what
they
are
asking
for
is
funding
support
for
the
period
from
January
5th
2020
through
June
30
2020.
So
it's
that
six-month
operating
window-
and
here
it
is
the
number
of
trips
the
the
vehicle
itself-
would
make.
Not
the
number
of
people
writing,
but
the
trips
that
the
vehicle
would
make
the
time
that
it
takes
that
vehicle
to
perform
the
service,
because
all
of
their
costs
are
driven
by
vehicle
revenue
hours.
M
I
would
point
out
that
that's
the
twenty
twenty
request,
so
it's
that
six
month
period
again,
they
did
include
in
that
information
what
they
anticipated
a
future
year
request
would
be.
It
would
be
around
sixty
one,
two
sixty
two
thousand
dollars
for
fiscal
year
2021.
So
if
the
county
were
to
support
this
with
funding
and
then
wish
to
continue
to
supporting,
it
was
worth
that
route
with
funding,
it
would
be
at
an
increased
cost
because
you're
operating
in
a
full
year,
the
annual
cost
would
increase
annually.
M
So
you
would
imagine
that
each
year
that
cost
would
increase
and
that
any
kind
of
infrastructure
beyond
a
route
stop
sign.
So
this
is
the
transit
stop.
There's
a
sign
saying
this
is
an
art.
Stop
would
be
at
an
additional
cost
and
they
would
be
requesting
support
for
that.
If
that
were
warranted,
should
the
county
have
interest
in
supporting
that
expansion
so.
M
And
so
in
that
that
next
fiscal
year
and
we
have
a
complex
relationship-
we've
talked
about
that
before,
where
we
provide
88
complementary
paratransit.
So
they
will
be
evaluating
that
the
city
pays
us
for
that
service.
But
they
would
also
then
assume
some
sort
of
increased
cost
for
that
provision
of
service
that
they
would
not
be
an
expanded
area.
So
it
gets
a
little
bit
more
complicated
in
a
future
fiscal
year,
but
it
would
be
at
minimum
twice
what
you're
looking
at
in
this
year,
plus
an
increase
based
on
their
operating
contract
and
possible
ad.
M
And
so
the
intention
at
this
point
would
be
to
bring
back
this
item
to
the
board
for
formal
consideration
at
a
future
meeting.
There
are
funding
options
if
there
is
interest
in
pursuing
this
and
providing
the
funding
support,
including
we're
sending
some
grant
funds.
So
we
have
access
to
certain
grant
funds
that
we
can
rescind
that
access
to
the
city
or
there
would
not
actually
have
to
be
transfer
of
funds
between
the
two
governments.
M
On-Time
performance,
that's
often
a
concern
about
how
riots
are
performing,
and
this
is
part
of
a
bigger
systemic
change
for
the
city,
so
their
goal
is
to
improve
their
services
at
that
January
5th
date
by
doing
a
number
of
things,
but
again
part
of
that
was
the
opportunity
for
this
expansion.
If,
if
the
county
had
interest
in
funding
support,
Matt.
M
The
city
they
included
in
their
plan
that
this
was
an
option,
and
so
in
September
they
began
formalizing
the
date
at
which
they
would
begin
implementing
and
communicating
to
staff
kind
of
preliminarily
hey.
We
would
like
to
do
this
expansion.
We
would
want
to
do
this
January
5th,
if
the
county
has
interest,
and
at
that
point
our
response
was.
M
When
would
you
need
to
have
information
from
the
county
about
our
interest
in
doing
that,
to
allow
that
to
roll
out
on
January
5th,
because,
obviously
it's
an
operational
change,
so
they
are
gonna,
have
to
have
some
advance
notice,
but
the
the
turnaround
has
been
fairly
quickly
and
part
of
that's
because
they're
looking
at
from
their
side,
all
the
budgetary
costs
that
they're
going
to
incur
and
trying
to
assess
all
of
that
for
a
January
5th
implementation.
All.
F
The
reason
I
said
that
it
would
have
been
helpful
if
we
had
known
this
at
budget
time
now
for
next
year.
It's
fine,
you
know,
we
know
in
plenty
of
time,
but
this
is
like
for
to
buy
houses
and
some
other
things.
Sometimes
it
seems
like
we're
the
last
minute
they
remember.
Oh,
we
can
go
to
the
county
for
funds,
that's
all
of
them,
pointing
out
just
give
us
a
heads-up
so
that
we
can
include
this
in
the
budget
and
handle
it
the
way
we
should,
you
know,
handle
it,
but
I'm
all
for
it.
F
E
Thank
you
for
that
point.
I
do
agree
that
this
is
off
cycle
fund
budget,
but
I
do
want
Matt
to
expend
a
little
bit
about
the
funding
options
that
we
have.
This
would
not
be
coming
from
general
fund.
This
would
not
be
asking
the
county
to
to
appropriate
more
funds
from
general
fund.
There's
a
grant
conversation
that
he
mentioned
briefly
and
if
you
can
just
take
two
more
minutes
to
just
talk
about
that.
This
is
not
general
fund
money.
So
we're
not
going
back
to
the
county's.
B
B
E
E
Not
put
the
actual
cash
in
fund
balance
because
we
know
that
there
was
grant
funds
available.
We
do
have
funds
available
in
the
County's
budget.
If
we
needed
to
do
this,
but
because
his
grant
funds
available,
we
thought
that
was
a
better
route
instead
of
using
the
tax
dollars
from
the
county,
so
speak.
F
J
In
this
first
leg
of
the
$28,000,
we
need
to
know
what
the
ridership
is:
I,
don't
care
what
the
numbers
are.
I
want
to
know
how
many
people
ride
the
bus.
You
know
I
left,
put
put
back
up
on
the
screen
or
you
go
up
to
a
lot
of
home,
bring
it
all
the
way
back
down
to
a
lot
of
home,
okay,
where
it
goes
up
the
hill
that
a
lot
of
home
I
used
to
live
in
the
house
across
the
street,
all
the
houses
from
there
all
the
way
to
this
basically
the
school.
J
J
The
people
get
on
that
bus
is
the
real
count.
So
you
know
the
budget
in
the
city
on
their
best
deal
from
london
blair.
I
ran
it
about
six
years
ago.
Was
twenty
eight
million
a
year?
Now
it's
at
58
million
a
year,
so
they're
not
doing
a
very
good
job.
If
you
go
to
oakley,
there's
the
road
that
they
took
a
bus
off
of
and
now
the
whole
people,
it's
on
that
road
have
to
walk
the
Fairview
Road
to
be
able
to
catch
the
bus.
J
So
they're
not
doing
a
very
good
job
and
standing
here
asking
us
for
this
money.
I
understand
some
of
that,
because
I
was
over
there
before
I
will
come
over
here
and
you
know:
I
want
numbers
the
people
that
ride
the
buses
in
the
first
twenty
eight
thousand.
If
it's
not
that
many
people,
then
we
don't
need
to
speak,
paying
twelve
dollars
a
person
to
ride
a
bus.
Thank
you.
I
This
is
an
issue
I
hear
about
really
frequently
from
folks
in
across
the
county,
honestly,
as
we
see
more
and
more
folks
living
moving
to
places
outside
the
bus
lines,
but
needing
access
to
public
transportation.
So
I
I'm,
very
excited
to
see
us
talking
about
this
today,
look
forward
to
the
vote
on
November,
5th
and
and
hope
this
will
be
the
first
of
other
opportunities
we'll
have
to
make
targeted
strategic
investments
in
ways
to
expand
access
to
public
transit.
I
M
And
just
to
to
revisit
the
funding,
I
didn't
want
to
leave
that
behind,
so
the
county
does
have
access
to
5307
funds.
Those
are
federal
dollars
that
flow
through
the
city
of
Asheville
in
that
relationship
we're
a
sub
recipient
of
the
funding,
so
we
receive
it
under
the
city's
programming,
and
so
we
do
have
the
opportunity
and
that
agreement
for
the
funding
and
how
that
flows
allows
us
the
opportunity
to
rescind
funds
and
by
that
I
mean
instead
of
exchanging
a
dollar
for
dollar
for
services
that
we
might
offer
each
other.
M
You
can
actually
rescind
grant
funding.
So,
if
you
an
example
would
be,
if
you
had
access
to
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
you
could
say
we
want
to
retain
access
to
a
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
for
use
for
programs
we're
going
to
operate,
but
rescind
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
the
city
to
operate.
X&Amp;Y,
and
so
you'd
spell
out
specifically
what
that
retention
is
for
and
document
and
retain
access
to
the
other
grant
funds.
And
so
that's
a
process
that
we
can
use
to.
M
One
provide
those
kind
of
operations,
if
that's
the
desire,
but
to
to
prevent
the
exchange
of
fun
being
unnecessarily
between
agencies
and
the
outside
of
that
workflow.
But
again,
all
those
decisions
would
be
coming
before
the
board
for
especially
for
an
expansion
of
an
operation
using
that
kind
of
a
tool
or
mechanism.
So
it's
not
necessarily
looking
for
grant
for
general
fund
dollars,
but
exchanging
or
allowing
the
city
to
use,
grant
funds
that
we
would
have
had
first
first
bite
at
for
our
purposes,
but.
B
If
we're
going
to
use
that
tool
to
rescind
whatever
amount
that
would
be,
it
would
be
clear
it
would
be
voted
on
in
here,
and
it
would
be
very
clearly
documented
where
that
money
and
that
that
purpose
would
benefit
that
Buncombe
County.
If
our
discussion,
what
we're
talking
about
is
is,
is
rescinding
money
to
the
city
based
on
a
grant
that
we
would
receive.
That
would
that
money
would
benefit
outside
of
the
city.
Limits
said:
is
that
what
right.
M
A
Right
thanks
so
much
Matt
looks
forward
to
taking
this
up
at
the
next
Commission
meeting
for
a
court
decision.
All
right.
Commissioners,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
I've,
got
to
step
out
to
take
a
brief
phone
call,
so
I
apologize
for
that
I'll
be
back
in
just
a
moment,
but
next
up
is
we're
going
to
discussion
of
these
solar
on
public
facilities,
RFP
and
Jeremiah
Leroy
will
be
walking
us
through
that.
L
Afternoon
max
has
a
presentation
ready
for
ya.
Okay,
as
commissioner
newman
mentioned
we're
here,
to
just
talk
about
solar
on
public
facilities,
we're
not
requesting
any
action
today,
just
an
update
of
where
we
are
and
and
what
we
anticipate
seeing
here
in
the
next
few
months.
So
just
some
quick
background,
obviously
Commission
knows
we
have
a
hundred
percent
renewable
energy
goal
for
county
operations
by
2030
and
for
the
broader
community
by
2042,
and
that
the
renewable
roadmap
planning
process
that
we
went
through
recommended
aggregated
solar
as
a
means
of
helping
to
achieve
that
goal.
L
So
the
county
is
looking
to
collaborate
with
local
public
organizations,
city,
county,
a
BTEC,
school
systems,
etc.
Just
some
very
brief
updates
on
progress
in
terms
of
energy
efficiency.
We've
done,
1.2
million
kilowatt
hours
of
energy
efficiency
projects,
saving
the
county
about
forty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year.
We've
got
some
ongoing
LED
upgrades
and,
of
course,
the
five
megawatt
solar
farm
at
the
retired
landfill
I
gave
you
guys
a
brief
update
on
that
last
time,
but
Commissioner
Watts.
It
had
a
specific
question
about
when
construction
was
expected
and
right
now,
that
timeline
is
right.
L
Around
q3
of
2020
for
the
construction.
For
that
to
start,
and
of
course,
what
we're
here
to
talk
about
today
is
future
projects,
solar
on
county
facilities
identified,
approximately
1.2
megawatts
worth
of
projects,
and
the
combined
efforts
of
those
projects
with
the
solar
farm
would
represent
approximately
25%
of
the
county's
internal
goal,
just
as
a
frame
of
reference
so
step
one
and
analyze
the
facilities
county
has
over
eighty
three
buildings,
so
we
went
through
every
single
one
of
them
and
we
worked
with
facilities
and
maintenance.
L
We
worked
with
the
city
and
county
staff
looking
at
some
basic
key
indicators
for
what
what
makes
the
most
sense
when
you're
talking
about
solar,
what
type
of
roof
is
it
and
how
old
is
it?
What
condition
is
it
in?
Does
it
still
have
a
warranty
as
they're
shading?
What's
the
orientation
of
the
building?
What's
the
building's
energy
intensity
interconnection
challenges?
You
know,
infrastructure
that
sort
of
thing
sort
of
funneling
these
buildings
through
this
lens,
so
that
we
can
narrow
these
things
down.
L
Looking
at
structural
engineering
is
something
it
has
to
happen
when
you're
going
to
put
solar
on
a
roof.
Anyway,
you
have
to
get
a
stamp
from
a
structural
engineer,
saying
it
could
handle
that
extra
load
and
once
it's
sort
of
passed
through
all
of
these
things,
we
look
at
the
actual
preliminary
design
of
the
solar.
What
would
it
look
like?
How
big
would
it
be?
What
would
those
energy
impacts
be
and
then,
of
course,
once
we
know
about
that
system
size,
we
can
look
at
the
financial
impact.
L
We
can
give
some
some
pretty
basic
budget
estimates
and
then
once
we
have
the
budget,
we
can
estimate
a
return
on
that
investment.
So
just
a
quick
update
on
the
partner
sites,
city
of
Asheville
is
also
completed.
This
analysis
they've
got
about
10
sites
with
about
the
same
capacity.
A
BTech
is
requested
analysis
of
three
of
their
sites,
they're
only
looking
at
parking
lot.
Canopy
is
actually
included
a
picture
of
one
in
case
folks,
didn't
know
what
that
meant.
It's
not
something.
L
We
see
a
lot
in
this
area,
but
it's
it's
canopy
systems
you
park
underneath
about
one
megawatt
of
capacity,
but
there's
potential
for
other
systems
at
a
BTEC,
we're
talking
to
them
about
those
as
well.
So
the
results
of
our
analysis
internally
for
the
county
came
up
with
the
out
of
our
83
buildings.
These
were
the
14
sites
that
were
identified
as
the
most
viable
to
put
solar
on
several
libraries.
A
couple
of
canopy
systems
at
potentially
the
the
parking
decks
to
look
at.
L
The
only
thing
I
would
point
to
in
this
is
that
number
five
and
number
six,
the
College
Street
parking
deck
and
35
Woodfin
the
Stanley
Center
next
door.
Here
we
would
not
be
actually
putting
solar
on
the
roof
of
the
Stanley
Center.
We
would
be
potentially
building
a
canopy
system
on
the
deck
and
then
tying
it
to
the
meter.
C
L
L
Preliminary
budgets:
these
are
in
order
from
least
expensive
to
most
expensive.
Obviously,
it
totals
about
2.9
million
dollars
for
all
of
these
projects,
combined
system
size
again
was
about
1.2
megawatts
I
know
it's
kind
of
a
busy
slide.
But
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
let
me
know
levelized
cost
of
energy.
This
is
a
concept
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
very
briefly
because
it's
it's
one
that
we
use
a
lot
when
we're
talking
about
energy
producing
systems.
So
it's
we
typically
look
at
things
like
simple
payback.
When
it
comes
to
energy
projects,
it
costs
$1,000.
L
It
saves
you
$100.
It
pays
for
itself
in
10
years
and
it's
it's
a
simple
way
to
look
at
it.
When
you're
talking
about
solar
energy
costs
that
you
pay
to
Duke
Energy,
don't
tend
to
go
down
over
time.
They
tend
to
increase,
and
so
this
this
is
a
way
of
looking
at
energy
in
terms
of
the
long
term
lifespan
of
an
end
of
an
energy
producing
system.
So
it
includes
capital
that
it
takes
to
build
it
as
well
as
the
operation
and
maintenance
of
that
system
over
its
lifetime.
L
So
the
levelized
cost
of
energy
for
these
combined
projects
averages
about
five
cents
a
kilowatt
hour,
to
give
you
some
frame
of
reference
there.
We
currently
pay
on
average
about
nine
cents,
a
kilowatt
hour
it's
at
Duke.
So
there
is
obviously
over
the
long
term,
a
significant
gap
and
we
did
use
a
cost
escalator
over
the
lifespan
of
the
30
years
that
these
projects
are
expected
to
be
in
place
of
about
3%
annually.
So.
C
B
E
B
So
the
only
reason
I
mentioned-
that
is,
if,
if,
if
it's
financed
for
10
years,
20
years,
15
years,
whatever
the
term
is
that
needs
to
be
part
of
our
calculation
when
we're
looking
at
the
cost
to
stand
up,
I
understand
the
0.05
very
clearly
sure,
but
you
know
we
need
to
have
an
actual
cost.
Absolutely
you
know
absolutely.
L
Not
solely
fair,
now,
I'll
actually
address
that
a
little
bit
later
on
that
3%
escalator
by
the
way
we
fell,
is
actually
a
fairly
conservative
estimate.
Duke
has
actually
increased
utility
rates
6%
in
2018
and
they're,
asking
for
another
5
percent
in
2020,
so
that
percent
is
actually
fairly
low.
So
we
feel
pretty
good
about
how
those
cost
savings
run
out
over
time.
K
L
L
K
L
L
L
Obviously
we
just
have
Duke
Energy
and-
and
we
don't
have
any
other
options-
we're
working
with
the
utility
company
to
potentially
look
at
ways
to
buy
third
party
green
energy
through
various
means,
so
we
would
be
able
to
offset
some
of
our
electricity
electricity
use
through
Power
Purchase
Agreements
through
through
other
mechanisms
like
that,
so
yeah
I
mean.
If,
if
what
you're
asking
is,
can
we
put
solar
on
eighty-three
buildings?
The
answer
is
probably
not
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
Some
of
them
just
aren't
structurally
sound.
Some
of
them
may
need
a
new
roof.
L
Some
of
them
frankly
just
have
a
lot
of
shade
and
don't
make
a
lot
of
sense
and
I'm
not
cutting
down
trees
to
put
up
solar
a
lot
of
times.
That's
not
something
I,
don't
think
our
community
necessarily
wants.
So
there's
a
variety
of
ways
that
we'll
try
and
reach
that
hundred
percent
goal
that
aren't
strictly.
K
L
Okay,
absolutely
it's
got
to
be
a
variety
of
ways
to
get
there
it
putting
solar
on
county
buildings
is
a
good
step
and
it
shows
I
think
leadership
in
that
space,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
that
you
reach
a
hundred
percent
just
by
putting
solar
panels
on
buildings.
So
we'd
have
to
look
at
things
like,
like
the
landfills,
a
great
example
of
a
utility
scale,
sized
project
that
can
help
us
reach
our
goal
without
putting
solar
on
a
building.
So
it's.
L
Okay,
let
me
make
sure
I'm
in
the
right
place,
okay,
so
this
is
just
some
of
that
return
on
investment
we
were
talking
about.
So
each
of
these
is
I'm.
Sorry.
This
is
kind
of
a
busy
slide,
but
I
wanted
you
to
have
all
this
information,
its
one-year
savings
from
each
project
and
then
lifetime
savings
from
each
project.
L
The
simple
payback
of
those
projects,
just
because
I
know
that
that's
something
folks
want
to
see
and
then
that
30-year
levelized
cost
of
energy
that
we
discussed
before
so
total
you're,
looking
at
a
one-year
savings
in
the
first
year
of
about
a
hundred
and
eleven
thousand
dollars.
If
all
projects
were
implemented
at
once
and
a
four
point:
seven
million
dollar
cost
savings
over
the
lifespan
of
those.
B
C
B
L
This
is
essentially
our
my
wonderful
friends
at
performance
management.
Put
this
together
for
me
and
I'm,
sorry
that
it's
a
little
bit
small
and
hard
to
read,
but
the
there's
a
list
ranking
on
the
on
the
left-hand
side
here
of
just
putting
those
projects
in
categories
of
sort
of
the
lowest
investment
in
the
highest
return
versus
the
highest
investment
and
the
lowest
return
sort
of
ranked
and
again
you'll
see
that
those
canopy
systems
that
are
significantly
more
expensive
do.
Do
you
end
up
being
at
the
bottom
of
that
list?.
L
So
this
is
just
a
sort
of
a
simple
overview
of
it:
total
cost
without
rebates
of
2.9
million
thirty-year
utility
savings
of
4.7
were
the
net
savings
of
1.8
million.
I
also
wanted
to
be
remiss
not
to
mention
the
fact
that
the
cost
savings
is
a
part
of
this,
but
obviously
we're
doing
this.
For
other
reasons,
and
some
of
the
environmental
impacts
would
be
really
positive
for
us,
it
would
be
approximately
1,100
metric
tons
of
co2
that
would
be
preventing,
and
that
doesn't
mean
a
lot
to
folks.
L
So
I
put
some
of
those
equivalents
up
there
that
people
like
to
see
it's
equivalent
to
approximately
1.2
million
pounds
of
coal
being
burned
and
that's
every
year
for
30
years.
So
it's
a
significant
carbon
offset
for
us
as
well.
So
just
a
little
bit
more
about
the
rfp
itself.
These
requests
would
be
for
obviously
construction
on
facilities
in
land.
L
If
someone
has
a
better
idea,
they'd
like
to
pitch
us,
we're
certainly
willing
to
listen
if
they
have
additional
options
for
things.
Like
energy
storage
that
they'd
like
to
pitch
us,
we
certainly
really
willing
to
listen
to
that
and
we're
also
very
interested
in
requesting
every
option
we
can
get
in
terms
of
the
financing
of
this.
What
does
it
look
like
to
own
it?
What
does
it
look
like
the
lease,
because
so
the
leasing
is
an
option
in
North
Carolina?
Now?
What
does
it
look
like
for
private
financing
versus
installer
financing?
L
You
know
we
like
all
of
those
options
on
the
table
so
that
we
can
evaluate
what
makes
the
most
sense
for
us.
It
will
require
a
performance
and
payment
bond.
That's
just
a
mechanism
we
use
to
ensure
that
bidders
have
the
financial
capacity
to
handle
projects
of
this
size
and
the
expectation
that
these
would
be
thirty-year
useful
life
of
these
installations.
L
So
the
next
steps
for
us
we've
got
to
do
some
additional
site
analysis
on
some
of
our
partner
sites,
the
school
systems
Buncombe
County,
Schools
and
Nashville
city
schools
have
just
recently
confirmed
their
commitment
to
be
a
part
of
the
RFP.
So
we've
got
some
work
to
do
and
analyzing
the
sites
available.
That
they're
going
to
tell
us
they'd
like
to
look
at
and
then
continue
to
develop
the
language
of
the
RFP
itself.
L
Well,
we
like
to
have
all
of
our
site
analysis
done
for
all
of
our
partners
by
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
and
be
prepared
to
actually
issue
the
RFP
in
January,
which
would
put
us
in
March
to
potentially
come
back
to
the
board
to
say
here's
what
we
got
from
bidders.
This
is
where
we
think
we
should
go
with
this
and
optimistically
in
spring.
We
could
actually
start
construction
and
get
some
boots
on
the
ground.
A
All
right,
so
this
will
be
on
the
agenda
for
the
November
fifth
meeting
as
well
and
we'll
take
it
up
there
all
right,
no
questions
at
this
time,
all
right,
all
right,
Jeremiah
Jeremiah!
Thank
you.
So
much
we'll
keep
moving.
I'm
now
put
my
agenda
somewhere
else.
So
our
next
item
is
the
waste
Pro
update,
hey
Dane.
How
are
you
hey.
N
Thank
you
good
to
see
everybody
a
lot
of
important
information
to
go
over,
but
to
be
conscious
of
time
we
will
keep
a
good
cadence
and
hold
up
the
power,
of
course,
we're
talking
about
the
residential
waste
and
recycling
collections
contract
in
the
unincorporated
areas
of
Buncombe
County,
and
want
to
provide
an
update
on
the
contract
and
the
status
where
we
are
now
in
the
implementation
of
the
new
contract
and
chip.
Jingles
is
here
with
us
today
as
a
co-presenter
to
discuss
some
of
the
the
roll
out
updates.
N
So
a
little
background,
September
10th
through
the
12th,
was
the
first
communication
point
that
existing
subscribers
received
via
postcard
from
waste
probe,
and
that
indicated
the
deadline
for
car
selections,
the
county
and
that
same
time
frame
published
an
article
on
County,
Central,
County,
Center,
Facebook
and
next
door,
and,
as
you
are
familiar,
we
received
feedback
during
that
time
frame
from
subscribers.
Excuse
me
subscribers
and
citizens,
and
we
wanted
to
work
the
last
regular
meeting
that
this
board
had.
We
had
some
good
feedback.
We
had
questions
from
this
board.
N
We
had
comments
from
the
general
public
and
we
went
to
work
to
try
to
summarize
and
formalize
some
of
the
information
that
that
we
received
and
waste
pros,
sent
postcard
notifications
to
approximately
28,000
subscribers
and
the
the
total
estimated
and
we
put
asterisk
with
that.
We
don't
have
a
formalized
tracking
system
in
place.
This
was
hether
Blaylock,
this
ain't
that
she
is
at
our
office,
helping
us
track
that
information.
You
know,
understanding
who
the
person
was.
N
N
So
working
with
Western
understanding
how
many
subscribers
have
signed
up
with
the
cart
selection
process
at
this
point,
and
that
number
is
at
approximately
20,000.
This
is
as
of
October
10th,
and
so
that
leaves
about
8,000
customers
that
it's
difficult
to
say
that
you
know
reading
through
the
information
where
they
are,
they
thinking
well,
I'm
gonna
get
to
fall
of
the
96
gallon
anyhow,
so
I
don't
need
to
take
any
further
action
or
is
there
something
else?
That's
that's
causing
them
to
pause,
so
waste
Pro,
we've
talked
through
with
them.
N
They're
gonna
make
make
concentrated
efforts
to
touch
base,
specifically
with
the
remaining
8,000
subscribers
that
they
have
not
heard
from
so
that
that
will
help
get
an
understanding
of
of
where
these
these
folks
are
and
in
their
thinking
through
with
the
cards
and
other
numbers
that
we
asked
for
from
whites
produce
obscure.
Excuse
me
new
subscribers.
N
B
O
B
N
But
there
we
go
so
breaking
down
some
of
the
the
information
that
we
gathered
and
understanding
some
of
the
basis
of
concern
or
complaints.
We
work
to
to
create
this
spreadsheet
based
on
the
the
county
concern
analysis,
and
these
are
some
of
the
counts
that
you
saw
earlier.
Obviously,
we
did
incorporate
some
double
counts.
We
know
for
sure
that
some
folks
contacted
Lamar's
office.
N
They
contacted
our
office,
they
were,
they
were
calling
different,
different
folks
different
areas,
but
we
Inc
weekly
kept
that
number
there
and
a
lot
of
folks
were
actually
calling
our
office
to
say.
I
want
the
64
gallon
the
96
gallon.
So
we
did.
We
did
get
a
lot
of
that
as
well,
but
we
counted
those
with
the
concerns
by
issue.
The
the
price
increase
to
expensive
was
the
the
top
as
far
as
frequency,
for
what
we
heard
feedback
on
from
from
residents
and
as
you
can
go,
come
through
the
line.
N
There
lack
of
information,
misunderstanding
information
unable
to
contact
waste
Pro
and
those
are
things
as
we
do
this
overlay
or
the
communication
pieces
that
we
heard
feedback
from
the
board.
We
heard
feedback
from
the
community.
Those
are
things
we're
talking
about
a
little
bit
later
on
in
this
discussion
as
far
as
ways
that
we're
working
with
waste
Pro,
our
PR
team
working
together
for
for
effective
communication
and
making
sure
that
we're
getting
getting
next
phase
information
out
in
a
timely
manner
and
making
sure
that
those
communications
are
clear.
N
So
talking
about
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
discussed
that
that
we
were
identified,
price
concerns,
we've
talked
in
depth
about
the
pricing.
We
we
fully
understand
that
continuing
the
current
contract
would
have
resulted
in
a
larger
increase
waste
processed
for
to
price
increases
in
a
10-year
period
with
the
current
contract,
so
that
certainly
blow
the
inflationary
index
index
ease
the
and
and
obviously
on
the
price
side.
The
option
that
folks
certainly
have
is
to
hold
self
all
their
material
to
the
transfer
station
or
landfill.
N
Now
we
get
into
the
bear
resistant
card
option
there.
I
know
members
of
the
board
you've
heard
feedback
on
this
week
have
waste
Pro
has
so
we
heard
that
we,
you
know,
we
touched
base
with
waste.
Pro
we've
been
working
with
waste
Pro
chip
and
his
group
on
you
know
identifying
the
the
concerns
that
we
heard
with
the
the
bear-resistant
option.
So
as
it
is
now
in
the
contract,
the
current
contract,
effective,
January
1st,
the
bear-resistant
cart
is
an
is
a
purchase
period
right
now.
N
That's
the
way
it
is
now
it's
three
hundred
dollars
to
purchase
the
bear
resistant
container
so
working
with
chip
and
his
group
on
you
know
what
what
some,
what
an
option
is.
This
is
where
we
come
in
with
or
big-oh
are
with
underline,
or
we
consider
a
leasing
option
that
is
nine
$9.50
a
month
surcharge
on
top
of
the
1921,
and
that
would
remove
the
purchase
option
for
folks
so
its
purchase
and
then
or
lease
option
at
nine
fifty
a
month
additional,
but
with
the
leasing
option
we
understand
there
are.
N
There
are
a
lot
of
folks
that
have
purchased
bare
quartz.
Now,
that's
that's
their
personal
assets.
They've
invested
in
that
so
with
the
lease
program.
If
it's
a
certified
bear
bear
resistant
container,
ace,
CI
g
b,
a
b
c
d,
e,
f
g
IG
bc,
so
that
is
that
there
is
an
association
actually
certified.
It's
cool.
You
need
to
go
watch
the
video
on
that.
Of
course,
there
is.
N
These
are
very
smart
bears,
so
those
are
the
qualifying
containers
that
would
be
qualifying
for
a
applicable
trade
in,
so
that
trade
in
program
would
effectively
for
folks
that
have
those
containers
if
they
choose
again
it's
their
asset.
If
they
choose
to
trade
that
in
it's
a
qualifying
container,
that
would
reduce
their
monthly
payment
to
five
seventy
five
a
month
and
that's
for
the
best
for
the
five-year
base
term.
So,
and-
and
I
do
want
to
point
out-
and
chip
will
discuss
this
here
in
just
a
second-
there
are
timeline
and
schedule
impacts.
N
O
Good
afternoon,
as
far
as
Dana
was
talking
about
with
the
scheduling
impact,
what
we
feel
that,
if
we
want
to
offer
the
least
option
for
the
county
residents,
then
what
we
would
need
to
do
is
send
a
notice
out
to
all
of
the
residents.
Let
him
know
letting
them
know
that
there
has
been
this
change
and
you
do
have
this
option.
O
O
So
we
could
get
the
message
out
because
there
may
be
residents
that
you
know
felt
that
investing
three
or
six
hundred
dollars
in
containers
was
too
much,
but
that
a
lease
option
is
more
affordable.
So
there
are
some
advantages
to
a
lease
option.
You
know,
as
opposed
to
just
purchasing
a
container
if
you
purchase
a
container
that
becomes
yours
that
becomes
your
container
you're
responsible
for.
If
you
lease
a
container
front
from
us,
then
you
know
we
maintain
that
container.
So
you
know
the
lid
stops
functioning
properly
or
something
of
that
nature.
O
Then
we
would
either
come
out
and
repair
it
or
swap
it
out.
So
to
do
that,
though,
you
know
one
big
lesson
that
we
learned
is
you
know
the
county
residents
would
need
time
to
make
an
informed
decision,
so
you
know
this
would
be.
We
estimate
a
three
to
four
week.
Delay
in
the
process,
so
we'd
have
to
prepare,
let
the
residents
know
and
give
them
time
to
offer
feedback,
and
that's
only
if
they're
interested
in
a
bear
resistant
container.
O
B
G
B
F
B
O
I
O
Ma'am,
so
what
we're
talking
about
phasing
it
in
you
know
we're
probably
breaking
up
over
five
areas,
maybe
even
by
the
day
that
we
service-
and
we
would
do
that
every
so
many
days
we
will
send
a
communication
out
to
those
residents
so
because
what
we
found
out
previously
is
that
when
we
sent
a
communication
out,
everyone
from
Buckland
County
calls
the
next
day
or
as
soon
as
they
get
it.
So
we
want
to
space
that
out
some
so
that
we
can
handle
that
comes
in
just.
O
Okay,
so
currently
the
contract
says
you
know
we
were
going
to
sell
these
containers
we've.
Just
you
can
buy
for
three
hundred
dollars.
You
buy
warning
by
five.
Whatever
you
want
they're
three
hundred
dollars,
apiece
and
they're.
Yours,
that's
the
current
contract
agreement,
so
the
feedback
that
we
got
was
these
containers
are
too
expensive.
I've
just
invested
three
hundred
five
hundred
dollars.
That
was
the
feedback
that
we
got.
So
the
staff
asked
us
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
What
we
came
back
with
was
a
lease
option
so
that
it's
correct
mm-hmm.
O
O
A
People
who
don't
have
you
know,
don't
have
the
money
saved
up
upfront
mm-hmm,
but
it's
substantially
more
expensive
over
five
years.
If
you
don't
already
have
one
of
these
containers,
so
it's
actually
a
worse
deal
for
mm-hmm
for
a
lot
well
for
most
well.
For
everyone
actually
I
mean
there
was
a
total
amount
of
money,
they're
going
to
spin
it.
So
it's
it's!
It's
like
almost
six
hundred
dollars
or
it.
A
O
There
are
games
to
consider
with
that.
Like
I
said
so,
with
the
lease
option
we
maintain
the
container
so
that
latch
stops
working.
We
come
out
and
fix
it.
The
wheel
falls
off,
we
come
out
and
fix
it.
You
buy
the
container,
your
will
comes
off,
we're
not
responsible
to
come
back
out
and
fix.
It
could.
A
You
could
you
consider
providing
both
options:
I,
just
why's
it
so
complicated,
I
mean
you
just
you
see
that
this
or
this
you
know
lots
of
companies
like
we
have
this
piece
of
equipment
you
want
to
buy
it.
You
want
to
lease
it
and
people
who
you
know.
People
choose
the
option
that
that
makes
the
most
sense
for
mm-hmm
for
them.
So
what
I
don't
understand
was
so
logistically
complicated
about
having
the
two
options.
That's.
A
I
So
they
don't
have
to
call
15
different
places
to
find
out.
What's
going
on
with
their
issue
that
we
could,
we
could
take
a
big
step
forward
in
helping
to
resolve
whatever
the
cohort
of
people
who
are
actually
kind
of
really
having
issues
with
this
are
so
I
would
love
to
see
us
get
to
a
YES
on
you
can
purchase
or
lease
and
also,
let's
what
we
can
really
do
to
make
sure
we're
providing
the
extra
level
of
customer
care,
even
if
it's
coming
from
the
county
side?
O
B
I'm,
okay,
with
you
going
and
coming
back,
letting
us
know,
I
mean
it's
very
I
mean
anytime,
you,
lease
anything's,
gonna,
cost
more
I
mean
it's
just
its
way.
It
is
some
people
choose
Elise,
you
know,
I
would
never
lease
a
car.
You
know
it's
just
I'm,
not
gonna.
Do
it.
You
know
that
they
make
they
they
make
money.
You
know
it
gives
you
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
decide.
You
know
how
many
you
gotta
have
in
stock.
You
know
it's
it's
easier
on
the
company.
I
get
that.
A
A
I'm
not
saying
I
think
the
company
should
make
some
money
on
it
if
they
lease
it,
cuz
yeah,
you're,
investing
your
capital,
upfront
and
maintaining
it
I
think.
That's
totally
valid
I
just
say:
I!
Think
for
folks
you
have
the
money
up
front
to
spend
I
think
a
lot
of
them
would
rather
just
robably
stright
to
check,
and
you
know
you.
O
Know,
there's
an
assumed
risk
either
way.
You
know
I
mean
yeah.
Like
I
said,
if
you
could
purchase
that
car,
you
may
not
have
a
minute
trouble
out
of
it.
You're
good.
You
could
purchase
that
car
I,
don't
know,
gets
hit
by
a
car
cuz
you
rolled
it
out
or
a
bear
attacks
it
or
whatever,
and
you
got
to
replace
the
wheels
on
it.
The
next
month,
I
mean
there's
an
assumed
risk,
the
same
thing
for
us
too.
O
You
know
and
that's
why
we
have
to
have
something
to
maintain
it,
because
we
have
to
make
you
know
the
trip
out
there
to
fix
it.
That
sort
of
thing
have
parts
available,
and
you
know
we
also
have
to
have
staff
on
hand
to
repair
it
as
well.
So
you
know
that's
that's
why
it
does
become
difficult.
When
we
make
assumptions
as
to
how
many
people,
we
think,
will
do
it
or
not.
Do
it
yeah
we're
thinking
about
on
our
hand,
to
our
ability
to
service
the
customer,
and
so
that's
why
we
had
that
offering.
K
O
You
know
we
don't
know
the
exact
number,
but
after
getting
some
feedback
from
our
drivers,
we
actually
think
it's
several
thousand
somewhere
approximately
around
three
thousand
customers
now
have
a
bear
resistant
container
of
some
sort,
whether
that's
a
chain
wrapped
around
it
or
whatever
they
have
some
sort
of
bear
resistant
container.
So
that's
out
of
the
whole
twenty
eight
thousand,
that
what
we
service
now.
We
feel
that
this
may
be
approximately
three
thousand
customers.
They
currently
have
some
sort
of
bear
resistant
container.
Okay,.
O
K
The
public
have
access
to
them,
or
is
this
a
one
made
for
waste
Pro
Republic,
different
people
or
not
and
I?
Guess
where
I'm
going
with
this
is
if
these
things
are
so
close
and
and
I
know
weight
that
the
one-armed
bandits
got
to
pick
them
out,
and
you
know
it's
gotta
open
at
the
right
time,
but
they're
that
close,
I
I
would
like
to
see.
If
there's
any
way,
you
could
put
a
detail
on
them
or
you
know
them
have
them
painted
or
something
to
save
these
people.
Three
hundred
dollars
or
nine.
K
O
That's
a
great
point,
so
every
container
will
not
be
approved.
You
know
we
need
to.
We
need
to
inspect
it
and
make
sure
that
it
meets
some
basic
criteria.
It's
clean
its
usable
with
functions,
it's
approved
by
the
ieee
GBC.
Now
in
regards
to
to
why
we
do
that,
we
look
at
our
program
overall
as
a
overall
okay.
So
right
now,
one
tremendous
problem
that
we
experienced
in
the
county
is
people
that
don't
pay
for
service,
okay
and
so
by
buying
a
container
or
leasing
a
container.
O
It
enables
us
to
have
that
information,
so
we
have
the
serial
number
on
the
one
that
was
purchased.
We
know
that
that
resident
has
one
that
was
purchased
and
we
will
have
a
specialist
where
we'll
make
sure
every
month
that
they
receipt,
that
we
receive
payment,
okay
or,
if
you're,
at
least
leasing
that
container,
if
you
don't
pay
we'll
just
pick
the
can
up.
Okay,
so
right
now
you
know
what
those
numbers
deign
shows:
some
numbers
200
and
some
people
cancelled
service.
Well,
on
top
of
that
200
and
some
people
they
canceled.
O
Last
month
there
were
a
hundred
and
eighty
some
customers
that
just
didn't
pay
and
what
happens
typically,
is
they
these
customers?
Don't
pay
happens
every
month,
but
they
sit
their
trash
out
and
we
come
by
and
pick
it
up
and
that's
why?
When
we
look
at
the
program
as
a
whole,
we
want
to
have
a
container.
We
want
to
know
what
residents
that
goes
with,
so
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
actually
getting
paid
for
our
service.
I
guess.
K
Let
me
make
it
more
simple:
maybe
I
didn't
if
there's
only
35
people,
that's
got
this
compatible
bear-proof
container,
all
right!
That
is
exactly
like
you.
Could
you
charge
a
registration
fee?
You
know
someone
come
out
there
and
change
the
lid
on
it.
If
it's
exactly
the
same
thing
and
you
know
make
it
identifiable
and
there's
25
people
happy,
you
know
it's
like
me
and
Jasmine's
been
talking
most
afternoon
work
on
a
little
bit
of
this
at
a
time
that
could
solve
some
problems
right
there.
Yes,.
O
I,
don't
think
that
there
will
be
any
containers
out
there
that
are
compatible
for
automated
trucks.
I,
don't
think
they're.
Any
of
that.
You
know
you
when
we
say
what
we're
looking
at
those
that
are
approved
by
the
IG
BC.
There
are
some
that
are
equipped
for
automation
and
some
that
are
not
I
doubt
any
of
the
ones
that
are
out
there
are
equipped
for
automation.
O
B
I
mean
to
me
the
trading
option:
I,
don't
have
a
bear.
Cart,
don't
want
a
bear.
Cart,
don't
want
a
Bears.
But
to
me
you
do
the
math
on
the
trade-in
I
mean
to
me.
The
trade-ins
of
I
mean
you're
gonna.
If
you
pay
$300
for
a
bear,
car
you're
gonna
get
$300
you're
gonna
get
$3
back.
You're
gonna
pay
$300
for
five
years
ish,
because
it's
575
mm-hmm,
which
is
about
sixty
two
dollars,
sixty
three
dollars
a
year
$315.
B
O
A
A
C
N
Right
so
concerns
about
court
about
court
weight.
We've
talked
about
this
in
the
past.
We've
heard
that
concern
by
providing
the
different
size
options.
We
felt
like
that,
help
with
folks
with
mobility,
as
well
as
the
folks
that
don't
generate
a
whole
lot.
They
have
you
know
easier
option
at
48,
gallons,
roughly
the
half,
the
industrials
that
are
the
96
gallon
size.
The
carts
are
rollable
as
far
as
on
multiple
surfaces.
N
So
so
under
consideration
right
now-
and
this
is
a
program
that
we're
discussing
at
this
point
so
currently,
our
solid
waste
department
offers
a
rebate
program
for
haulers
that
bring
to
our
facilities
over
12,000
tons
per
year
and
with
the
new
contract
starting
January.
1St
waste
Pro
would
not
be
eligible
for
that,
because
the
turn
is
generated
in
this
residential
contract.
It's
coming
to
our
facilities
anyhow,
so
that
was
excluded.
N
So
we're
talking
about
we're
talking
through
with
waste
Pro
regarding
the
the
senior
citizens
with
low
income
and
local
long
driveways,
and
working
to
working
on
developing
a
program
with
waste
Pro
that
could
help
discount
the
twenty
five
dollar
premium
service
for
the
back
door.
Service
for
qualifying
subscribers
and
eligibility
would
be
based
on
income,
age
and
long
driveways.
The
the
program
would
be
first-come,
first-served
and
funds
will
be
limited
to
the
total
amount
of
rebates
given
to
waste
Pro.
So
obviously,
we've
got
the
four
dollars.
N
Historically,
they
waste
Pro
has
qualified
for
that,
but
starting
January
1st.
They
would
not.
So
we
have
that
at
that
point
that
we're
negotiating
waste
Pro
he's
currently
working
through
the
the
cost
and
the
number
of
subscribers
that
that
program
could
serve
so
we're
talking
through
those
points
right
now.
Well,.
C
N
E
One
consensus
of
you're
not
asking
for
a
vote
tonight,
but
consensus
and
I
heard
from
you
guys
you
would
want
us
to
have
both
their
car
options
in
the
contract
or
you
can
buy
a
where
you
can
lease.
We've
asked
that
of
chip
and
he's
gonna
go
back.
I
know
when
we
asked
as
a
staff.
He
was
they
needed
to
have
one
or
the
other.
E
So
if
chip
is
willing
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
that
with
his
leadership
team
and
then
give
us
an
answer,
but
we
really
need
those
answers
and
those
consensus,
so
we
can
order
and
get
the
contract
and
the
time
order,
so
we
can
move
forward.
So
what
are
the
big
questions
that
you
need
tonight
answered
the
beer
carts
anything
else.
O
O
Beer
cart
is
mission.
Critical
is
dangerous
Dave
because
we
have
to.
We
need
to
develop
a
plan
to
contact
every
resident,
give
them
time
to
make
an
informed
decision
and
then
we're
going
to
make
make
some
changes
on
our
end
to
just
like
some
enhancements
to
our
website,
make
sure
that
the
residents
can
have
a
confirmation
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
you
know
and
I
know
that
you're
correct.
O
My
original
answer
was
no
I
have
been
thinking
about
that
toying
with
different
ideas
of
how
we
would
do
that
if
we
were
to
do
both,
it's
not
not
easy
because
it
it
just
affects
a
lot
of
other
things,
but
I
guess
if
we
could
agree
to
do
both.
Could
we
make
a
decision
now
to
say
hey
we're
going
to
do
both
and
go
ahead
and
proceed,
because
you
know
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
do
this
and
do
it
right
and
get
the
message
out.
So
if.
E
A
B
E
A
O
O
Yeah
I
think
we
all
agree
on
that
and
we,
you
know
we
we
need
to
spell
out
the
details
on
that
section,
but
I
guess
the
part
that
we're
looking
for
can
we
move
forward
with
is
just
the
bare
card,
not
the
other
part.
Just
the
bare
cart,
because
what
we
need
to
do,
our
staff
will
have
to
get
to
working
with
the
county
staff.
We
have
to
notify
everyone.
We
have
to
give
them
time
their
name
to
be
changes
to
the
website.
So
you
can.
E
A
O
O
A
Thank
you
all
right,
Thank,
You
children,
all
right
all
right!
So,
let's
check
in
where
we're
at
we
have
two
items:
one
on
the
nonprofit
funding
guidelines,
we're
just
not
going
to
time
to
cover
that
in
this
session
we
can
probably
knock
out
the
easement
item.
Why
don't?
Why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
just
do
that
and
then
we'll
decide
what
to
do
on
the
remaining
item.
P
Yes,
mr.
chairman
commissioners,
just
very
briefly
on
the
Lee
Walker
Heights
easement,
this
is
a
temporary
easement
to
facilitate
a
temporary
easement
to
maple
crest
LLC,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
board
understands
why
maple
crest
LLC
is
involved.
This
is
just
temporary
easement
along
the
eastern
boundary
of
the
Lee
Walker
Heights
subdivision.
There's
a
stripper
line,
a
strip
of
property
between
the
back
side
of
the
mini
Jones
property
35
feet
to
10
feet
and
width
along
the
entire
line.
P
They
want
a
redo,
a
road
I
think
it's
called
Waddell
or
Mardel,
but
it's
temporary
because
they
don't
know
if
they
have
to
end
up
doing
any
slopes
or
whatnot.
It's
called
maple
crest,
because
it's
a
combination
of
housing,
authority
of
the
city
of
Asheville
and
Mountain
housing
opportunities.
So
the
Housing
Authority
created
a
maple
crest.
Authority
Mountain
housing
made
a
mountain,
a
maple
crest
entity
for
management
so
for
operating
management
and
construction
purposes
that
created
these
new
entities
to
own
it.
P
So
just
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
that
this
is
a
subsidiary
of
Mountain
housing
Inc,
which
has
a
75-year
lease
on
the
property
to
own.
It
and
operate
it,
so
this
is
just
a
construction
easement
as
part
of
that
project
temporary
in
nature
to
come
back
in
a
couple
years
or
when
construction
is
done
to
finalize
that
easement
and
we
hope
to
have
this
on
for
I,
believe
consent
on
November
5th.
A
You
know
I
mean
one
option
would
be
if
people
are
available.
We
could
move
this
to
have
an
informational
discussion
at
our
regular
meeting
tonight.
So
we
can
talk
about
it,
a
few
minutes
and
then
vote
on
it
at
the
next
meeting.
So
you
know
the
agenda
is
not
super
short,
but
it's
not
super
long.
So
we
could.
We.
A
Yeah
we'll
come
off
yes,
why
don't
we
put
this
on
the
agenda
for
the
regular
meeting
and
just
have
an
informational
discussion?
No
action,
but
we'll
just
put
it
underneath
business.
All
right
sounds
good.
All
right,
we've
covered
everything.
Any
other
items.
Commissioners
want
to
discuss
all
right.
We're
gonna
adjourn
our
pre
meeting
and
we
will
start
our
regular
meeting
at
5
o'clock.
We
are
gonna,
have
a
I
think
a
very
brief
closed
session
at
the
beginning
of
that
meeting.