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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Briefing (April 6, 2021)
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Briefing of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for April 6, 2021. To view the agenda, or future meeting agendas, please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners
A
C
B
B
B
The
epicurve
continues
to
show
an
overall
plateau
and
if
you'll
look
at
the
very
tail
of
the
curve,
there
appears
to
you
know
to
be
some
bobbing
a
little
bit
of
up
and
down
fluctuating
each
day.
But
overall,
if
we
were
to
draw
a
like
a
regression
line
there,
you
would
see
it
overall
being
flat,
and
then
our
percent
positivity
has
been
relatively
stable
over
the
last
week
as
well,
ranging
from
4.0
to
4.4
percent
this
week,
with
the
average
being
about
4.2
percent.
B
Our
regional
hospitalizations-
and
this
is
all
hospitals
within
our
western
north
carolina
region,
not
just
our
local
ones,
showed
a
slight
upturn
and
then
also
that
began
to
flatten
out
again
and
as
we
saw
that
slight
upturn,
we
saw
a
slight
upturn
in
covid
like
illness,
about
a
week
or
so
before
that
slight
upturn
in
the
regional
hospitalizations,
and
that
too
has
since
declined.
And
overall,
the
western
counties
which
you
see
there
is
the
bright
yellow
line
are,
are
seeing
a
less
presence
of
covet
19
like
illness
when
compared
to
other
regions.
B
This
indicator
has
not
moved
significantly
since
march
24th.
The
slight
increase
in
this
rate
since
last
week
is
making
that
derived
indicator
just
below
it,
which
is
showing
an
increase
of
roughly
10
percent
to
become
red
and
in
actuality,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
these
indicators
are
showing
actually
some
overall
plateauing
and
some
flatness.
B
B
The
deaths
improved
over
last
week
slightly
and
our
local
hospitalization
rates
have
not
changed
significantly
either.
In
the
last
week,
the
colors
of
the
metrics
have
changed.
However,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
more
indicative
of
this
continued
plateauing
and
that
bobbing
up
and
down
that
fluctuates
from
day
to
day
and
that
we're
seeing
that
fluctuation
just
slightly
from
week
to
week.
B
Our
state
orders
continue
to
stress
that
additionally
remember
to
keep
some
distance
between
you
and
others
when
you
are
in
those
public
spaces
and
in
those
buildings
and
good
practice
today
and
every
day
is
to
wash
our
hands
that
simple
precaution
not
only
helps
to
stop
the
spread
of
cover
19
but
many
other
pathogens
as
well
and
as
a
reminder,
north
carolina
is
currently
vaccinating
groups.
One
two
three
and
4.
group
5
will
open
tomorrow
april
7th.
B
B
B
But
this
is
a
visual
from
the
cdc
that
shows
the
percent
population
fully
vaccinated.
And
I
wanted
to
focus
in
you
see
that
national
map
and
right
there
in
that
western
part
of
north
carolina
is
a
much
darker
area.
And
if
we
focused
in
on
that,
I
just
wanted
to
draw
attention
to
the
vaccine
efforts
of
not
just
our
county
and
our
partner
providers,
but
also
the
collective
efforts
of
our
entire
region
and
that's
what
you're.
Seeing
there.
B
Hospital
partners,
local
health
departments,
fqhcs,
community
health,
centers,
pharmacy
and
pharmacies
and
many
other
vaccine
providers
throughout
our
region
have
worked
together
to
obtain
doses
through
accepting
equity
doses
and
accepting
extra
doses
that
we
can
then
either
use
in
our
own
vaccine
efforts
and
operations
or
transfer
those
out
to
other
providers
within
our
region
to
provide
more
opportunity
and
vaccine
access,
and
it
is
showing
in
this
picture.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say.
B
B
B
This
includes
all
partners,
federal
and
state
and
then
for
buncombe,
county
hhs
and
our
partners
in
emergency
services,
we've
administered
62,
451,
total
doses
with
36
700,
almost
being
partially
vaccinated
and
25
752
being
fully
vaccinated,
and
then
to
update
you
quickly
on
vaccine
allocation.
We
are
receiving
3510
doses
for
our
baseline.
B
This
week
we
also
received
800
doses
through
dhhs,
which
we
are
transferring
to
our
local
pharmacy
partners
at
healthridge,
in
black
mountain
and
to
ingles
to
distribute
throughout
the
community
and
their
pharmacies,
so
that
we're
spreading
that
reach
and
that
access
into
neighborhoods
and
communities
that
folks
pass
by
every
day
or
go
to
get
their
groceries
and
then.
Lastly,
we
also
received
a
special
allocation
of
jnj,
which
is
the
single
shot
vaccine
that
we'll
be
using
to
continue
our
homebound
efforts,
our
efforts
in
the
detention
center
and
then
also
our
vaccination
of
the
homeless
population.
B
And
as
I
mentioned
earlier
earlier,
we
did
sunset
the
wait
list
after
notifying
all
those
who
were
still
active,
that
an
appointment
was
ready
for
them,
and
I
want
to
thank
paul
watson
and
stacy
wood
and
our
ready
team
and
our
county.
It
team
partners
for
the
incredible
work
to
make
that
vision,
and
that
goal
happen,
and
this
visual
you're
seeing
here
is
illustrating
the
waitlist
traffic
by
week,
meaning
the
individuals
that
were
added
onto
the
waitlist
by
that
week
and
we
can
use
this
sort
of
as
a
proxy
for
demand.
B
And
you
can
see
it
starts
with
the
week
of
january
15th,
which
would
have
included
our
very
first
day
of
the
wait
list.
And
then
you
see
january
22nd,
and
so
you
see
our
highest
demand
was
when
the
waitlist
was
first
launched
and
you'll.
Remember
that
supply
was
quite
low,
then,
and
demand
was
very
high,
with
virtually
only
local
health
departments
and
hospital
partners
really
having
any
vaccine
allocation
supply
and
then
entry
into
or
onto
the
waitlist
decline,
to
a
couple
of
thousand
new
entries
per
week.
B
And
then
we
see
another
bump
in
demand,
not
quite
as
high
as
when
we
initially
launched
around
march
17th,
which
would
have
been
the
first
group
of
group
four
was
eligible
and
then
a
subsequent
wayne.
Since,
since
then
of
note
that,
while
the
bump
in
demand
for
group,
there
was
a
bump
in
demand
for
group
four,
it
did
not
rival
the
demand
that
we
saw
in
groups
one
and
two
or
when
we
first
launched
it
and
contributing
factors
are
likely
that
we
have
a
lot
more.
B
I
did
want
to
mention
that
when
we
did
when
we
sunset
the
waitlist,
we
did
launch
the
online
scheduler
and
around
march
31st,
and
this
visual
rule
will
reflect
that
launch
of
the
online
scheduler
in
future
iterations,
because
we
can
also
use
how
many
appointments
are
being
made
by
day
or
by
week
as
also
a
proxy
for
demand,
and
with
that
with
using
this
as
a
proxy
as
demand
we
can.
We
can
use
this
as
one
more
tool
in
our
toolbox
to
help
us
think
through
future
vaccine
operations
and
needs
going
forward.
B
B
Those
three
little
measures
are
some
of
the
best
ways
to
help
us
stop
the
spread
and
some
of
the
best
ways
to
show
your
appreciation
to
public
health
and
remember
to
get
tested.
If
you
are
feeling
ill
or
you
think
you
may
have
been
exposed
to
covet.
19
getting
tested
means
that
you
are
helping
us,
stop
the
spread
of
the
virus
and
that's
another
way
to
show
your
support
and
help
local
public
health
heroes.
B
Testing
is
available
at
a
b
tech
on
sundays
and
folks
can
visit
starmed.care
to
make
an
appointment.
And,
lastly,
with
group
5
opening
up
tomorrow
get
your
spot
for
your
shot.
We
have
effective
vaccines
available
in
our
area
and
several
providers
ready
to
vaccinate
you.
So
please
show
your
support
for
public
health
and
your
determination
to
end
this
pandemic
by
rolling
up
your
sleeve
and
getting
your
vaccine.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
time
and
attention
today.
A
A
D
Yes,
good
afternoon
good
afternoon,
I'm
dirk
wilmoth.
I
am
the
chief
financial
officer
at
ab
tech,
and
I
have
with
me
president
john
gossett
back
in
the
back
and
then
also
emily
kite
from
novus
associates
she's
our
primary
consultant
on
this
on
this
project.
So
I'm
going
to
open
up
with
this.
Let's
see
here.
What
do
I
have?
D
D
An
assessment
of
the
inca
campus,
something
that
was
given
to
the
college
back
in
2000
and
which
would
we
have
used
at
various
times
within
the
last
six
or
seven
years
have
been
under
the
impression
that
we
would
be
disposing
of
it
in
some
way
and
but
that
has
changed
dramatically
with
changes
in
our
board
of
trustees
and
our
strategic
planning.
And
we
realize
what
an
important
asset
that
that
facility
is,
and
one
that's
very
underutilized.
D
But
in
the
in
the
ensuing
time,
there's
been
some
neglect
of
the
building.
We
haven't
put
investments
in
to
repairing
and
replacements,
replacing
some
of
the
basic
infrastructure.
So
the
joint
advisory
committee
capital
advisory
committee
recommended
that
we
spend
money
out
of
the
article
46
quarter.
Cent
sales
tax
proceeds
for
the
purposes
of
assessing
both
the
conditions
of
the
of
the
facility,
as
well
as
the
surveying,
the
stakeholders
and
constituents
in
the
local
communities
as
to
their
interest
in
that
campus
and
how
it
might
be
better
utilized.
D
Excuse
me
the
first
step
in
the
process
was
going
out
and
doing
an
rfp
for
consultants
and
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
the
entire
project
team
ended
up
being
obviously
a
b
tech,
as
well
as
the
buncombe
county
facilities
management.
Folks,
particularly
michael
mace,
who
is
here
today,
thank
you,
michael
and
then
also
ronnie,
ludsford
and
then
on
our
architectural
and
programmatic
team.
We
have
obviously
emily
kite
and
novus
as
the
primary
consultant
as
well
as
brailsford
and
dunlevy,
who
did
the
program
management
the
the
assessment,
qualitative
assessments
that
were
necessary.
D
D
Well,
I'm
moving
to
page
two
of
that
presentation.
Sure
you'll
see
that.
Obviously
the
excuse
me,
the
technology
commercialization
center
is
the
larger
of
two
or
three
buildings
on
that
campus.
It's
43
acres
of
land
and
the
the
haines
tower
the
tower.
That's
there
has
not
been
occupied
since
2015,
but
the
tcc
is
actually
169
000
square
feet
of
facilities,
of
which
we're
utilizing
only
about
seventy
thousand
square
feet
of
that
facility.
At
this
point,
I'm
gonna
get
into
some
of
that
in
a
minute.
D
The
next
page
gives
you
a
puts
flesh
on
the
skeleton,
if
you
will,
by
showing
you
that
we
have
24
current
tenants
and
clients
who
are
occupying
that
70
000
square
feet
of
facilities,
and
you
can
see
that
they
range
the
largest
being
the
small
business.
Administ.
Excuse
me,
small
business
center
or
incubator,
which
the
college
operates:
the
next
largest
vendor
being
blue
ridge,
food
ventures
with
about
11,
000
square
feet
of
facilities,
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
all
the
specifics.
D
D
As
you
can
see
on
that
slide,
also
currently
occupying
seventy
thousand
square
feet
of
169
thousand
gross
square
footage
facility.
The
next
the
next
page
is
the
pretty
pictures
that
show
the
exterior
of
the
building,
not
the
most
appealing,
but
obviously
the
small
business
center,
which
is
on
the
far
right
at
the
top,
is
probably
the
one
with
the
best
looking
facade
at
this
point.
But
then
you
also
see
the
kind
of
diversity
of
tenants
that
we
have
in
there,
from
scientific
to
commercial
and
to
food
production
and
and
beer.
G
Thank
you
all.
I'm
going
to
pick
up
where
dirk
left
off
in,
in
his
explanation
of
sort
of
how
we
gathered
all
of
the
data
that
we
used
to
draw
some
of
the
conclusions
that
we
that
we
will
recommend
that
I'll
talk
through
in
the
slides,
but
as
a
baseline,
we
needed
some
cost
data
to
really
start
a
comparative
analysis.
G
And
so
you
look
on
this
page
is
really
a
summary
of
that
baseline
information
and
that
first
24.8
million
dollars
is
really
what
it
costs
to
renovate
the
building
and
and
repair
the
existing
conditions
out
there.
It
doesn't
do
a
whole
lot
in
terms
of
growth
and
expansion.
It
addresses
the
basic
needs
and
deferred
maintenance
for
the
building
that
we
identified
as
part
of
our
assessment.
G
The
next
3.5
million
dollars
is
a
cost
to
really
address
that
expansion
opportunity
and
that
vacancy
map
you
saw
those
big
areas
of
unoccupied
space,
and
that
is
the
the
sort
of
programmatic
upfit
costs
to
capitalize
on
that
square.
Footage
and
use
it
towards
a
programming
effort
and
as
a
compare,
a
comparison
to
that
the
317
dollars
a
square
foot
is
the
is
the
target
number
that
we
used
as
a
new
construction
cost
comparison
and
there's
a
few
assumptions
in
the
report.
G
We
haven't
addressed
escalation
so
that,
as
you
plan
further
into
the
future,
those
costs
may
change
based
on
how
the
construction
market
is
reacting
at
a
given
time,
there's
some
additional
owner
soft
costs
that
could
come
into
play.
Environmental
testing,
geotech
testing,
those
kinds
of
things
that
would
be
in
addition
to
these
these
budget
numbers
we
talk
about
when
we
compare
with
new
construction,
we
are
excluding
any
land
acquisition.
G
The
presumption
in
our
study
is
that
we
would
utilize
land
that's
already
available,
either
at
that
site
or
somewhere
else,
and
that's
a
in
an
effort
to
create
options
that
have
some
equity
between
them
in
terms
of
how
we're
comparing
and
making
recommendations
and
so
that
land
acquisition
cost
is
a
variable
that
we
can't
really
predict
very
well,
and
so
those
are
the
baseline
numbers.
If
we
dig
in
a
little
bit
to
that
renovation
cost
that's
in
there,
you'll
see
some
big
sort
of
categories
of
work.
G
Probably
the
biggest
category
of
work
to
note
is
plumbing
mechanical
and
electrical
upgrades.
The
infrastructure
of
the
building
is
aging
pretty
substantially
and
there's
some
carryovers
from
a
more
industrial
use
from
the
previous
building
owner
that
are
making
making
that
part
of
that
the
cost
associated
with
that
as
well
you'll
see
the
roof
replacement.
I
know
that's
been
an
ongoing
conversation
with
this
building
and
it's
a
pretty
high
priority
need,
at
this
point,
to
replace
the
roof.
G
You'll
see
that
budget
amount
in
that
list
of
things
and
how
those
the
costs
break
down
in
various
broad
categories
as
well,
so
to
get
to
the
options.
We
really
looked
at
four
scenarios
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
each
of
those
four
scenarios
and
that'll
draw
us
a
conclusion.
At
the
end
and
a
recommendation.
G
The
first
option
is
to
renovate
the
building
and
including
a
captured
improvements
and
expansion
in
that
3.5
million
dollars.
That
total
cost
would
be
in
the
neighborhood
of
28.3
million
dollars,
just
to
fix
the
building
conditions
that
we've
identified
plus
expand
the
programming
opportunities
out.
There
would
be
in
that
28.3
million
dollar
range
as
a
comparison
to
replicate
what
is
happening
out
there
with
an
a
plan
for
expansion
to
target
a
building
in
around
the
138
000
square
foot
range,
which
accounts
for
about
50
percent
growth
in
programming
opportunity
at
that
317
dollars.
G
A
square
foot
would
be
in
the
neighborhood
of
43.7
thousand
or
43.7
million
dollars
again.
That
does
not
include
land
acquisition
in
a
new
cost
building
replacement
comparison
analysis
and
it
describes
a
little
bit
in
further
detail
that
138
000
square
feet,
which
would
be
a
new
building
size
that
accounts
for
that
growth
in
options.
Three
in
options.
Four,
we
are
looking
at
in
option
three
we're
looking
at
what
would
it
cost
to
just
replicate?
G
What
we're
currently
doing
on
that
campus?
A
hundred
thousand
square
feet
is
the
occupied
area,
that's
being
utilized
on
that
campus,
plus
all
the
circulation
and
mechanical
space
that
is
required
for
those
operations
at
that
same
317
dollars.
A
square
foot
to
replace
what's
happening
presently
at
that
317
dollars,
a
square
foot
would
be
in
the
neighborhood
of
that
one
31.7
million
dollars
and
that
option
four
works
backwards.
G
There's
a
lot
of
existing
conditions
and
a
lot
of
deferred
maintenance
and
that's
due
in
large
part
to
the
availability
funding
over
the
last
20
years,
and
it's
due
in
large
part
to
some
uncertainty
in
the
strategic
planning
of
what
the
future
of
that
campus
was
going
to
be.
And
so
there
was
a
very
real
question
from
stakeholders
and
from
our
team
about
whether
or
not
building
replacement
is
of
better
value
than
repairing
and
investing
that
that
magnitude
of
money
in
that
existing
building
and
so
for
us.
G
The
conclusion
was
yes:
it
is
a
better
value
to
renovate
the
building
that
we
have,
and
there
are
some
very
key
sort
of
programmatic
drivers
that
helped
us
make
that
decision
in
terms
of
repairing
those
issues
and
focusing
on
that
growth,
we
think
that
option
one
elevates
the
image
and
presence
of
the
facility
to
reflect
the
superior
quality
of
what
is
happening
on
that
campus.
Presently,
the
initiatives
support
economic
development
objectives
with
opportunities
for
expansion
in
labs,
practical
arts
and
workforce
development
opportunities.
G
It
enables
opportunities
to
capture
added
revenue
through
expansion
of
academic
offerings.
This
was
one
thing
that
I'd
that
we
identified
as
a
need
for
a
b
tech
in
some
of
the
limitations
of
the
buildings
and
lab
spaces
on
main
campus
could
be
expanded
in
opportunity
out
at
the
inca
campus.
Instead,
a
renovation
concept
also
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
phase
improvements
so
with
new
construction
you're,
all
in
from
the
very
get-go
to
get
the
thing
that
you
need
and
then
renovation
option
of
the
existing
building.
G
It
does
allow
us
an
opportunity
to
phase
construction
and
to
manage
a
budget
and
expenditure
over
a
period
of
time,
rather
than
being
all
in
at
one
at
one
go,
and
so
with
that
we
put
together
a
little
bit
of
phasing
strategy
that
would
chunk
some
of
the
bigger
pieces
of
work
into
some
some
phases.
That
could
happen
in
sequence
over
time.
G
G
That
could
be
the
focus
of
a
phase
two
renovation
project,
a
phase
three
renovation
project
would
focus
on
the
hvac
and
electrical
infrastructure
improvements
and
then
phase.
Four
and
phase
five
could
focus
on
the
interior
vacant
areas
and
getting
those
ready
for
programmatic
expansion,
and
certainly
the
the
some
of
those
things
could
happen
in
a
different
sequence
as
priorities
shift
and
change,
but
putting
the
obviously
the
interior
improvements
in
phase
four
and
five
phase.
G
A
D
A
H
J
J
You,
mr
chairman,
county
commissioners,
I
have
nothing
of
substance
to
add
other
than
our
appreciation
for
your
support
for
our
work
at
inca.
We
are
excited
about
the
offerings
that
we
can
provide
the
community
there
in
our
conversations
with
the
people
who
live
and
work
there
they're
excited
about
our
our
presence
there.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
not
only
for
this
inca
project,
but
for
all
of
a
b
tech.
We
see
ourselves,
as
you
know,
a
real
asset.
Obviously
we
think
we're
an
asset
to
the
community.
J
I
K
I
had
a
couple
questions
I
I
guess
to
start,
I
think
it
was
42
occupied.
As
the
number
I
saw
something
something
less
than
50.,
and
maybe
I'm
thinking
of
this
too
simply
but
generally
speaking,
is
is
the
low
occupancy
rate
due
to
the
conditions
of
the
building,
or
is
it
due
to
the
lack
of
interest
or
funding
or
support
to
expand
the
programs
that
the
building
supports.
G
K
Thank
you
and
yeah.
I
took
a
tour
of
the
building
last
winter
and
and
was
I
was
blown
away.
I
was
first
of
all
struck
at
the
by
the
condition
of
you
know
some
of
the
rooms
in
the
building
overall,
just
the
poor
condition
and
the
water
leaking
from
the
roof,
but
was
also
on
the
positive
side,
totally
struck
by
the
amazing
programs
inside
and
the
you
know.
L
K
Biotech
center
and
the
incubator
do
some
amazing
work.
Blue
ridge
food
ventures
has
helped.
You
know,
create
a
lot
of
products
that
are
in
our
cupboards
right
now
that
you
can
buy
at
ingles
and
that
sort
of
thing
really
amazing
programs
and
work
that
they're
doing
over
there
and
really
proud
of
it.
It
really
seems
like
a
great.
K
It
is
a
great
and
really
could
be
even
more
amazing
asset
to
the
community
to
inca
and
so
yeah.
I'm
just
you
know,
I'm
really
excited
about
what
you've
shown
us
here
today
and
I
guess
my
question
is:
I
guess
I
was
hoping
to
see
you.
You
tell
tell
us
that
a
new
building
would
be
the
most
cost
effective
and
allow
for
expanding
programming.
I
imagine.
G
It
it
was
really
surprising,
I
think
part
of
the
process,
and
it
speaks
to
the
willingness
of
everybody
to
really
be
open-minded
and
to
really
search
out
exactly
what
the
right
recommendation
could
be,
because
I've
I've
been
sort
of
working
in
that
building
for
ap
tech
for
the
last
20
years
and
there's
a
growing
consensus
because
of
some
of
the
deferred
maintenance
that
the
cost
was
going
to
be
very
high
and
that
that
there
would
easily
be
a
conclusion
drawn
that
building
replacement
was
a
better
value.
And
so
it
was.
G
It
was,
I
think,
surprising,
to
all
of
us
that
that
really
didn't
prove
itself.
Given
the
current
market
conditions
for
construction
and
the
current
cost
of
things
and
the
the
bigger
opportunity
there
was
to
make
use
of
space,
we
already
had
than
to
try
to
build
something
that
big
to
do
the
thing
that
we
wanted
to
do.
So
it
was
definitely
a
surprise.
K
I
guess
my
last
question:
you
know
around
just
thinking
around
workforce
development,
it's
really
something
that
this
commission
has
talked
a
lot
about
and
fighting
back
from
the
pandemic,
as
as
you
put
it
earlier,
are
there
you
might
not
know
the
answer
off
the
top
of
your
head,
but
are
there
high
level
plans
and
interest
in
expanding
these
programs
in
this
in
this
building?
I
you
know
you
talking
about
increasing
the
square
footage,
but.
J
Very
much
so
we
are
already
talking
about
potential
programs
to
be
real,
honest,
the
most
relevant.
We
understand
that
the
outdoor
industry
is
growing
here
in
in
this
region,
so
we
need
sewers
to
sew,
backpacks
tents,
sleeping
bags.
However,
phase
five
is
really
where
we
would
bring
programmatic
interest
to
bayer.
J
You
know
quick
kind
of
of
programming
occurring
at
inca.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we've
already
been
talking
with
the
county
schools
about
partnering
for
a
machining
lab
inca
high
doesn't
have
space
for
a
machining
lab.
We
do
have
space
if
we
can
get
the
machines
in
there,
we
can
bust
the
students
back
and
forth.
All
of
those
kind
of
collaborations
then
are
really
on
the
table
and
we're
excited
about
those
okay.
Thank
you.
A
One
very
high
level
question
you
know-
and
I
appreciate
y'all
taking
time
to
walk
me
around
today
too,
to
see
the
facility
again
and
you
know,
parts
of
the
building
are
office,
spaces,
administrative
type
facilities
where
it's
great
for
the
small
business,
incubator,
work
and
and
other
office
spaces
for
different
partner
organizations.
Other
parts
of
it
are
kind
of
more
industrial.
You
know
where
the
craft
brewing
training
happens
and
other
the
the
blue
ridge
food
ventures
that
kind
of
space
kind
of
working
industrial
space.
A
I
would
assume
that
the
like
the
like
the
warehouse
type
functions
versus
the
office
type
spaces
at
the
office
type
spaces
would
be
a
more
expensive
new
construction
and
the
kind
of
more
you
know,
working
space
for
food
prep
and
the
the
brewing
classes
and
stuff
like
that.
Is
that
a
valid
assumption?
And
when
you
talk
about
317
per
square
foot
for
a
new
construction,
is
that
sort
of
the
blended
average
of
those
different
types
of
finished
spaces?.
G
A
Question
I
have,
is
you
know
if
we,
if
we-
and
this
is
not
necessarily
to
have
to
say
a
lot
about
this
now,
but
I
guess
just
one
other
piece
of
information
that
would
be
I'd
be
interested
in
looking
at.
So
this
is,
of
course,
all
about
these
capital
costs
for
building,
and
you
know,
rebuilding
this
facility
or
a
new
facility.
A
One
of
the
other
things
that
I
would
just
appreciate
to
seeing
some
additional
information
on
would
be
sort
of
those
future
operating
costs
as
well,
which
I
realize
the
county
only
is
responsible
for
some
of
those
costs.
The
college
gets
support
from
the
state
and
has
other
revenue
sources
to
to
help
with
that
from
leases
and
other
things
like
that.
A
But
I'd
like
to
also
just
make
sure
that
the
commission
has
a
good
understanding
of
kind
of
the
future
operating
costs
that
go
along
with
both
kind
of
maintaining
the
stat
kind
of
something
like
the
status
quo
of
the
programming.
That
is
there
as
well
as,
if
there's
a
kind
of
expansion
of
programming,
so
we're
also
thinking
through
all
these
future
kind
of
ongoing
concerns,
in
addition
to
the
capital
costs
with
the
different
scenarios.
So
that's
my
only
other
comment.
C
C
I
wonder
if
you
could
share
some
of
the
ways
that
thoughts
around
equity
and
racial
equity
in
particular
are
sort
of
coming
to
bear,
as
you
think
about
what
program
growth
should
look
like
student
enrollment
student
recruitment,
those
kinds
of
things
as
we're
talking
about
business
development
and
supporting
small
businesses
and
and
recovery
from
the
pandemic,
we're
trying
to
keep
those
equity
conversations
front
and
center
and
with
all
of
our
partners.
So
I
appreciate
hearing
your
thoughts,
sure.
J
Sure
sure
great
question,
an
awful
lot
of
what
we
do
now
at
inca
is
a
small
business
center
incubator
programs.
We
have
seen
a
huge
upsurge
in
people
of
color,
taking
advantage
of
those
small
business
opportunities.
We're
really
excited
about
that,
because
that
is
moving
the
needle
for
that
community.
J
We're
also
looking
at
it
on
our
main
campus,
with
our
curriculum
students.
If
you're
to
just
to
look
at
the
surface,
you
see
that
we
replicate
with
our
head
count
on
campus
the
community
that
doesn't
tell
the
whole
picture.
Our
students
of
color
are
not
graduating
at
the
same
rate.
So
there's
the
there's
the
rub:
there's
the
problem,
we're
looking
into
programs
like
success,
coaches,
career
coaches,
to
support
those
communities
that
you
know
either
haven't
been
supported
in
the
past,
or
need
extra
support
as
they
face
their
issues.
J
One
of
the
surveys.
When
we
survey
students
we
ask:
do
you
have
the
means
to
overcome
a
small
financial
crisis
like
400
crisis,
to
us
that
small
to
our
students?
That's
huge,
many
of
them
say
no,
they
don't
have
that
kind
of
savings.
Many
of
our
students
then
make
short-term
decisions
based
on
a
long-term
problem.
We
need
success,
coaches
to
support
them
in
thinking
through
their
decisions.
J
C
N
I'm
going
to
add
on
to
a
piece
that
dr
gossett
didn't
mention
is
under
his
leadership.
The
executive
leadership
team
committed
to
a
six
month
long
racial
equity
training
with
desiree
attaway,
which
was
really
incredible,
and
I
think
one
of
the
takeaways
from
that
is
putting
racial
equity
and
particularly
serving
students
of
color.
But
now
also
thinking
about
the
questions
around
incubation
and
how
we
reach
entrepreneurs
of
color
and
serving
those
folks.
N
I
think
we're
seeing
more
of
that,
come
to
the
surface
and
be
a
conscious
decision
at
the
leadership
level
and
now
digging
into
the
strategic
plan
and
where
they're
moving
forward
continuing
to
discuss
racial
equity
and
looking
at
things
through
through
that
lens
of
equity.
And
you
know,
circling
back
around
to
my
other
hat.
Is
the
foundation
has
started
to
step
in
to
particularly
look
at
those
issues
as
well
and
raise
funds
to
support
our
students
of
color
who,
for
whatever
reason,
can't
re-enroll
or
need
those
emergency
serv
funds?
L
J
A
Okay,
I
do
have
just
one
last
one,
so
thank
you
all
for
the
work
on
this
assessment
and
the
the
chance
to
report
it
out
today
and
and
have
this
discussion
here
so
look
forward
to
us.
You
know
we
don't
vote
in.
We
don't
vote
on
issues
at
our
briefing
meetings,
but
a
great
chance
for
discussion
and
bringing
forward
issues
that
we're
going
to
be
addressing
in
the
near
future.
E
A
It's
currently
it's
vacant,
it's
been
vacant
for
a
while,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
distract
us
away
by
out
by
raising
that
issue
today,
because
I
think
this
is
what
we
need
to
make
decisions
on
first,
but
I
would
just
identify
that.
I
think
that
that's
there's
another
set
of
questions
that
do
need
to
be
asked
and
answered
around
that
property
as
well
around
the
future
of
that
property
and
it'll
probably
come
back
down
to
similar
to
here.
A
A
That's
come
to
us
and
make
make
some
decisions
around
that,
but
in
the
in
the
near
future,
I
think
we
should
also
make
sure
that
we
work
with
a
b
tech
to
to
get
some
resources
to
begin
assessing
the
questions
that
are
important
around
the
haynes
building
too.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
since
we
got
the
whole
team
together
in
a
meeting
today,
that
that
is
another
important
piece
of
real
estate
that
there
needs
to
be
a
game
plan
developed
for
it
as
well
all
right,
if
there's
nothing
else.
A
A
F
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
this
afternoon,
we've
brought
before
you
a
draft
process
for
discussion
around
resolutions
and
proclamations.
This
will
be
a
joint
presentation
today.
Lamar
joyner,
michael
ferrer,
may
also
chime
in
on
that
process,
but
we're
bringing
this
to
you
today
because
of
requests
in
the
past
from
the
commission
about
a
process
to
sort
of
manage
and
let
the
community
know
how
to
engage
with
the
commission
on
proclamations
resolutions,
things
of
that
nature,
so
a
few
slides
to
get
us
through
but,
as
I
said,
a
draft
process
looking
for
your
feedback.
F
K
F
F
There
are
some
buckets
that
we
consider
to
be
restricted
and
open
to
y'all's
thoughts
on
this,
but
a
purpose
here
is
not
to
address
issues
that
are,
you
know
not
germane
to
the
business
of
buncombe
county
government,
additionally,
not
to
endorse
political
candidates
or
religious
views,
things
of
that
nature.
Those
are
restricted
usages.
This
is
really
more
about
acknowledging
sort
of
those
positive
things
in
the
first
bullet,
but
also
to
recognize
other
things
like
specific
observances
things
like
that
who
may
request
the
final
bullet
there
it's
wide
open.
F
This
can
be
something
from
the
commission.
That's
a
commission-led
priority
could
be
from
the
general
public
could
be
from
county
staff.
It
really
is
open-ended,
so
those
are
kind
of
some
quick
bullet
points.
Stop
me
at
any
point.
If
you
have
questions
in
terms
of
how
the
process
would
go,
this
is
just
a
summary
there's
additional
detail.
F
We
would
need
to
document
in
a
process
and
procedure,
but
so
in
terms
of
there's
three
buckets,
submission
review
and
approval,
and
so
in
that
submission
bucket
on
an
ongoing
basis,
the
board
will
receive
requests
from
the
public
for
resolutions
and
or
proclamations
with
each
of
those
requests.
There
will
be
documentation,
provided
that
describes
the
resolution.
F
These
requests
can
be
submitted
in
advance
for
future
events,
so
you
don't
have
to
submit
on
a
hard
deadline
for
an
event.
That's
coming
up
in
a
couple
months
you
could
submit
in
advance
and
it
would
be
recognized
during
the
appropriate
months,
an
example
being
you
know,
elder
abuse,
awareness
month.
We
would
recognize
it
in
the
appropriate
months
in
terms
of
the
review
process.
F
We
recognize
that
there's
a
lot
of
content
that
potentially
could
be
coming
in,
and
so
the
clerk's
office
will
compile
all
of
the
resolution
and
proclamation
requests
and
review
those
for
completeness
compliance,
but
also
alignment
with
the
mission
and
values
of
buncombe
county
government.
So
we
acknowledge
that
there
may
be
some
items
that
come
in
incomplete
those
items.
The
clerk
would
follow
up
on
request
additional
information.
F
We
also
recognize
that
there
might
be
items
that
come
in,
that
don't
necessarily
align
and
the
clerk
would
note
those
items
and
when,
when
the
time
is
appropriate,
would
forward
those
to
the
commission
with
notation
saying
you
know,
incomplete
request,
or
this
doesn't
quite
align.
The
purpose
of
that
is
that
we
were
doing
a
filter
for
the
commission,
but
that
way
we're
not
excluding
anything
that
you
may
have
interest
in
supporting,
but
we
will
clearly
acknowledge
it.
K
F
Additionally,
if
the
commission
viewed
that
there's
this
particular
type
of
resolution
that
should
really
just
be
recognized
annually
or
on
some
recurring
basis,
you
would
have
the
ability
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
a
great
example
of
that
would
be.
You
know,
recognition
of
you
know
black
history
month
or
any
other
type
of
recurring
observance,
so
those
are
high-level
bullets
on
the
process.
F
F
F
How
does
this
align
to
the
mission,
vision
and
values
of
the
county,
etc?
Additionally,
we
would
ask
that
a
draft
proclamation
is
provided
by
the
requester
and,
of
course,
all
of
those
items
would
be
reviewed
by
the
clerk's
office
and
sort
of
tweaked
in
time
to
bring
to
an
agenda
the
one
sort
of
timing
issue
that
we've
built
in
here
is
that
third
bullet,
which
you
know
we
would
ask
that
everything
come
in
approximately
six
weeks
in
advance.
F
A
So
these
are
not
resolutions
related
to
policy
matters.
Is
that
correct?
I
mean
in
the
past
we've
had
sort
of.
I
think
we've
talked
several
times
about
the
idea
of.
Is
that
something
we
want
to
get
into,
or
is
that
something
we
want
to
try
to
not
get
into
for
various
reasons
on
both
sides?
So
this
is
not
about
policy
issues.
This
is
about
a
different
recognition
of
individuals
or
events,
or
things
like
that.
A
F
I
So
when
we
had
a
retreat
back
in
december,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
our
legislative
agenda
and
we
do
want
to
bring
that
back,
because
those
would
address
those
policy
issues.
What
position
do
you
want
to
take
on
specific
issues,
or
this,
like
my
future
nc,
could
be
your
education
bucket,
and
you
want
to
urge
the
general
assembly
to
do
certain
things.
So
we
still
have
that
outstanding
that
we
need
to
bring
back,
but
tim
is
working
on
that
as
well.
I
O
Typically,
we
and
I
think
this
process
will
may
add
to
the
amount
that
we
get,
but
because
we
don't
have
a
process,
that's
not
really
advertised
on
the
commissioner's
page
or
anything.
But
typically,
I
would
say
I
get
maybe
one
or
two
every
quarter
or
so,
and
some
of
them
are
more
staff
driven
adoption
awareness
month
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
some
of
them
don't
come
from
the
public.
P
O
If,
if
I
may,
I
think
this
was
really
driven,
I
would
say,
with
questions
from
the
board
on
how
we
would
handle
these
requests
and
we
wanted
to
kind
of
get
a
process
in
line
that
would
make
it
something
structured
versus
doing
one-off
decision
and
bringing
them
to
either
one
person
on
the
board
or
things
of
that
nature.
So
I
think
it
was
kind
of
driven
by
the
board's
question
for
us
for
staff
to
go
back
and
look
at
a
more
formal
process
in
order
to
capture
these
requests.
A
A
There's
some
proclamation
or
something
that
a
commissioner
was
interested
in
or
like
a
resident
approach
to
commissioner
and
said:
hey
what
about
supporting
such
and
such
awareness
week
or
whatever,
then
a
commissioner
could
do
that
as
long
as
there's
at
least
two
other
commissioners
who
join
them
and
say
yeah,
that's.
That
seems
like
a
good
idea.
We
should
do
that.
A
So
that's
a
that's
a
process
just
like
it
is
for
anything
else,
on
the
agenda
or
if
the
staff
have
some
idea
and
they
can
speak
with
the
manager
about
it
and
there's
a
process
to
put
something
on
the
agenda
just
through
the
staff.
So
we
kind
of
do
have
a
process,
even
even
though
it's
just
sort
of
the
same
process
as
any
other
agenda
item,
and
I
personally
would
kind
of
lean
towards
keeping
it
that
way.
I
think
it
could.
A
F
Sure
I
think
the
main
item
for
us
was
to
to
be
responsive
to
to
what
we
heard
from
the
commission
and
definitely
a
mediable
to
whatever
direction
you
take
what
I
would
say
in
terms
of
pros.
You
know
any
any
process,
that's
more
formal
and
transparent
and
publicized,
I
think,
will
will
benefit
in
some
respects.
O
I
was
just
going
to
mention
as
well
as
far
as
the
decisions
are
made
for
some
of
these
to
come
forward.
I
think
the
clerk's
office
wouldn't
make
this
in
a
vacuum
on
deciding
hey.
This
is
not
a
good
or
bad
idea.
I
did
want
to
iterate
that
in
discussion
in
our
mag
meeting
and
going
over
this,
that
we
would
probably
have
consideration
from
other
entities
within
a
leadership
committee
and
kind
of
how
we
decide
what
is
a
viable
consideration
for
these
requests.
O
O
I
In
addition
to
that,
I'll
admit
this,
commissioner,
that
right
now,
if
you
do
know
a
commissioner,
you
can
probably
bring
your
item
to
a
commissioner.
So
it's
mobile
access
and
this
would
be
an
open
call
to
any
citizen.
That
has
an
issue.
So
for
us
it's
about
also
that
equity
license
and
parity
and
fairness
across
the
community
as
well
that
they
can
also
bring.
They
have
a
way
to
bring
an
item
forward.
M
N
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you
all
put
into
into
this.
I
know
this
recently
happened
to
to
me
was
a
constituent
knows
that
I'm
particularly
care
about
a
certain
issue
and
they
reached
out
and
said
we
would
really
like
a
proclamation
on
this,
so
I
had
to
go
through
the
process
of
you
know
finding
a
couple
of
other
commissioners
who
said
yes,
but
in
the
meantime
I
did
speak
to
lamar
and
say:
how
do
we
do
this
moving
forward?
N
Who
knows,
I
think,
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
if,
if
we
have
more
folks
who
reach
out
for
those-
and
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
can
be
a
nice
way
to
recognize
all
the
great
things
that
are
going
on
in
buncombe
county
in
terms
of
how
organizations
are
helping
and
serving
people
and
making
this
a
better
place
to
live.
So
I'm
intrigued
to
see
how
that
would
work
out,
but
I
do
appreciate
the
work
that
you
all
have
put
into
into
this,
based
on
a
lot
of
questions
that
I
was
asking.
So
thanks.
A
You
know
I'm
confident
the
vast
majority
would
be
a
completely
innocuous
things
that
would
be
consensus
items
I
do
think.
The
process
as
outlined
could
create
extremely
awkward
situations
for
both
the
staff
and
the
commission.
If
they're
look
like
this
is
a
very
diverse
community,
there's
wide
range
of
views
on
every
issue
you
know
facing
society
today
and
people
will
bring
them
forward
and
they
will
and
you
can
take
an
issue
and
you
can
turn
it
into
a
recognition
of
such
and
such
day
and
it
it.
A
I'm
not
sure
this
is
aligned
with
buncombe
county
values,
which
is
we're
super
open
to
interpretation
in
all
kinds
of
ways,
but
then
eventually
it
would
all
come
to
us
and
we
would
be
sitting
here
having
a
debate
about
whether
to
take
up
a
proclamation
on
an
issue
which
turns
into
a
de
facto
debate
about
that
issue
in
the
first
place.
So
that's
my
main
concern.
A
I'm
sure
95
percent
of
it
will
all
be
just
recognizing
the
awesome
things
that
happen
in
our
community
all
the
time
and
I'm
all
for
having
a
good
process
to
invite
that.
But
I
just
I
I
would
raise
that
as
a
process
concern
and
maybe
maybe
one
additional
step
to
add
to
it
to
kind
of
keep.
Maybe
some
of
the
kind
of
elements
of
what
we
have
today
is
that
if
there's
an
issue
that
this
that
comes
in
and
the
staff
consider
it
to
be
like
hey,
this
might
be
really
controversial.
A
This
might
not
be
something
that
everyone
agrees
on,
that
there
should
still
be
a
process
to
make
sure
at
least
three
commissioners
feel
like
yes,
you
know
we
would
want
that
to
be
on
here,
so
we're
not
put
in
the
default
position
of
having
to
take
up
any
issue
just
because
one
person
in
the
community
decided
that
they
wanted
to
send
it
in
and
prompt
that
debate.
So
maybe
that's
just
an
additional
step
to
add
that
would
address
that
concern.
N
I
H
A
F
E
Good
afternoon,
commissioner,
chairman,
so
as
the
finance
department
continues
to
work
on
various
cleanup
items-
and
we
are
looking
at
things-
finance
staff
discovered
that
the
opeb
trust,
which
is
the
other
post-employment
benefits,
trust
dated
june
21st.
20
2011,
the
trustees
listed,
are
no
longer
associated
or
affiliated
with
the
county.
So
we
need
to
update
those.
E
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
heads
up
that
that'll
be
coming
to
the
20th
agenda
for
with
approval
from
you
for
me
to
send
a
letter
to
those
trustees
notifying
them
that
they
would
no
longer
be
trustees,
because
the
planned
argument
spells
that
we
have
to
give
them
90
days,
notice
that
they're
going
to
no
longer
be
trustees
once
that's
complete,
then
staff
would
come
back
and
we
would
bring
you
with
the
help
of
our
legal
counsel.
Mr
frew
recommendations
for
changes
to
the
trust
plan.
E
Yeah
just
to
change
it,
so
instead
of
naming
individuals,
it
would
just
name
positions
that
will
make
it
a
lot
easier
moving
forward
when
people
actually
leave
the
county
so
and
that'll
just
be
a
consent
item
in
two
weeks,
just
letting
you
know
it's
going
to
be
there.
If
you
have
any
other
questions
about
it
or
whatever
I'm
happy
to
answer
those.
E
E
E
Correct,
but
it's
only
certain
employees
if
you
were
hired
prior
to
was
it
2015,
I
think,
is
the
date.
I'd
have
to
look
at
the
planned
documents,
but
yeah
that
avril's
correct
that
you
would
get
medical
benefits
and
we
have
a
trust
set
up
and
the
money
is
invested
with
the
treasurer's
office
at
the
state.
So
we
let
them
handle
the
trust,
but
we
need
to
do
these.
A
H
An
order
or
ordinance
was
never
signed
and
delivered
to
the
register
of
deeds
for
recording
to
make
that
actually
happen.
So
ron
payne
and
his
firm
were
representing
one
of
the
owners
adjacent
to
this
parcel
now
and
what
they're
asking
is
that
we
bring
before
the
board
so
that
the
board
can
simply
ratify
and
approve
that
19-year-old
vote
and
have
an
ordinance
signed
and
delivered
to
the
registered
deeds
for
recording
what
that
would
do.
H
Would
that
would
trigger
the
mappers
over
and
assessing
to
close
that
road
and
move
the
ownership
lines
halfway
through
what
was
a
road
and
just
make
what's
of
tax
record?
What
is
actually
happening
on
the
ground,
and
I
would
just
propose
to
put
this
on
consent
agenda
on
the
20th
as
well
I'll.
Try
to
answer
any
questions
if
you
have
any,
but
it's
it's
just
something
they
got
missed
some
long
time
ago.