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From YouTube: Commissioners' Meeting - 08/21/2012
Description
The Buncombe County Board of Commissioners held their regular meeting on August 21, 2012. Agenda topics included:
Proclamations
Soil & Water Conservation Update - 75th Anniversary
Old Business
County Personnel Ordinance (second reading)
New Business
Pisgah View Project Report
Resolution making certain statements of fact concerning a Proposed Bond Issue
Board Appointments
Historic Resources Commission
Announcements
Next meeting will be September 4, 2012
A
A
I'd
like
to
call
the
August
21
2012
meeting
of
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners,
to
order
we
have
Vice
Chair
Stanley
joining
us
by
phone
due
to
some
illness.
It's
good
to
have
you
on
the
line
vice
chair,
no
good,
all
right,
we'll
start
off,
as
always
with
Pledge
of
Allegiance
I
pledge
allegiance.
B
We
know
that
she's
offering
you
a
lot
of
care
and
love,
and
so
we're
thinking
about
you
bill.
Please
everyone
if
you
would
bow
with
me
this
is
this.
Prayer
is
titled
the
interdependent
web.
Whenever
life
looks
easy
now
that
is
more
complex
and
it
seems
the
simplest
most
profound
pieces
of
art
have
exquisite
planning.
The
melody
line
rises
to
the
surface
because
it's
been
played
out
in
the
composer's
mind
and
the
notes
arranged
and
rearranged
until
all
of
the
intricate
connections
are
designed.
But
for
clarity
we
see
the
web.
B
The
end
result
on
the
front
porch
in
the
morning
sun.
We
did
not
see
the
tireless
spinning
and
weaving
through
the
night,
the
near-miss
of
the
bats
flight
or
the
casual
brush
with
the
cats
evening,
prowl
along
the
rail
and
what
we
think
we
see
is
much
less
than
what
lives
in
the
depths.
There
is
always
more
than
what
meets
the
eye,
and
so
we
asked
for
patience
when
we
would
wish
for
anything
to
be
clear.
B
We
give
forgiveness
when
others
look
into
our
lives
and
see
no
deeper
than
the
surface
of
themselves
reflected
there,
and
we
are
humbled
when
we
find
we
do
little
better
and
seek
ourselves
in
others
as
well,
and
the
quiet
we
reach
inward
to
that
steel
place
and
it's
in
God's
name.
We
pray,
amen,
man.
A
Okay,
next
we're
gonna
look
on
the
agenda.
There's
a
lot
of
good
news
out
there.
We
don't
have
any
specifics
tonight
where
there's
always
good
news
and
we
live
in
a
good
County
and
a
good
place
all
right.
Next
up
we're
going
to
motion
to
follow
the
agenda,
including
adoption
of
the
consent
agenda
as
published.
C
A
A
We
have
soul
and
water
conservation
update,
it's
the
75th
anniversary,
the
soul
and
water
conservation
in
North
Carolina,
and
we
have
gym
and
and
Gary
going
to
tell
us
about
that.
We
want
to
present
a
proclamation
to
them
and
mr.
Jones
be
you
reading.
It's
all
right
in
depth
in
the
pre
session,
I
forgot
about
that
one
okie.
B
As
well
as
administer.
State
programs,
including
the
North,
Carolina
Agricultural,
cost
share
program,
the
community
conservation
assistance
program
and
the
agricultural
water
resources
assistance
program
and
whereas
environmental
education
is
also
a
vital
function
of
the
district
and
includes
conservation,
contest,
field
days,
exhibits
and
presentations
for
schools
and
other
groups.
And
where
is
to
celebrate
the
75th
year
of
soil
and
water
conservation
in
North
Carolina.
This
board
feels
it
appropriate
to
declare
August
as
soil
and
water
conservation
awareness
month
in
Buncombe.
County.
B
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
the
county
of
buncombe
as
follows:
that
the
month
of
August
2012
be
proclaimed,
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
awareness
month
in
Buncombe
County
that
this
sport
does
here.
If
I
thank
the
past
and
present
employees
and
volunteers
that
work
with
the
soil
and
conservation
in
Buncombe
County,
for
protecting
and
conserving
our
natural
resources
and
for
their
efforts
to
increase
environment
education
chairman
camp
I
would
move
that.
We
accept
this
proclamation
today.
So.
D
A
It's
been
a
motion
by
Commissioner
Jones,
a
second
by
Commissioner
Bailey.
Is
there
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
all
opposed
no,
and
we
also
have
the
chairman
and
director
of
the
Solon
water
conservation,
Jim,
comon
and
Gary
Higgins.
Gentlemen.
Would
you
like
to
go
the
podium
and
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
organization
and
Commissioner
Stanley
you
still
there,
okay,
good
good.
E
Good
afternoon,
mr.
chairman
members,
the
board,
my
name,
is
Jim,
come
and
I'm
the
chairman
of
the
board
of
supervisors
of
the
soil
and
water
conservation.
District
I'd
like
to
introduce
a
few
people
who
are
here
today,
Maria
wise,
is
our
staff
to
the
farmland
preservation
effort
chase.
Hubbard
here
is
one
of
my
fellow
supervisors
and
the
manager
of
the
Warren
Wilson
farm
and,
of
course,
Gary
Higgins
is
the
director
of
some
water
conservation
district
and
he's
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
our
Pro
powder
program.
F
You
Jim
mr.
chairman
commissioners:
I
do
have
a
little
PowerPoint
presentation
and
Judy
if
you
could
start
that
we're
very
proud
of
being
part
of
probably
one
of
the
largest
environmental
movement's
in
the
United
States
this
year,
we're
so
this
month
we're
celebrating
75
years
of
soil
and
water
conservation
in
North
Carolina
and
which
started
in
1937.
This,
commissioner
said,
but
there
are
currently
about
3000
sold
and
water
conservation
districts
in
the
nation
and
every
one
of
those
districts
have
boards
and
are
led
by
local
citizens.
F
So
it's
a
very
large
and
important
environmental
movement
before
I
get
started
actually
with
the
powerpoint.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
county
commissioners
for
all
the
support
that
they've.
Given
our
programs
over
the
years.
Any
time
we've
needed
any
anything
from
the
and
the
county.
Commissioners
you've
been
there
support
us,
and
we
appreciate
that.
F
To
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
and
I,
don't
want
to
bore
you
with
history,
but
I'll
try
to
back
this
thing
up
the
1920s
and
30s,
and
even
before
that
was
quite
a
bit
of
devastation
across
the
entire
United
States.
As
far
as
our
soil
and
water
resources
in
the
Midwest,
it
was
the
Dust
Bowl
during
the
Depression
era
in
the
southeast.
It
was
tremendous
gully
erosion
because
of
the
land
ethic
that
was
being
used
at
the
time
of
the
lack
of
a
scientific
understanding
of
soil
and
water
conservation.
F
He
recognized
the
importance
of
not
only
the
gully
erosion
but
the
sheet
and
real
erosion
that
slowly
eroded
away
our
farmlands
with
the
soil
erosion
service.
They
did
in
the
soil
conservation
service
as
well.
He
helped
form
both
of
those
and
they
did
a
lot
of
initially
did
a
lot
of
demonstration
projects
and
that
sort
of
thing
both
for
federal
agencies
and
all
of
those
were
very
effective
in
getting
the
job
done.
But
it
just
wasn't
on
a
broader
scale
as
as
he
wanted
to
see
get
done.
F
So
he
came
up
with
the
idea
of
local
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District,
which
are
led
by
local
board
and
staff,
and
today
we
call
that
locally
led
conservation
and
our
board
and
boards
all
across
the
nation
are
a
lot
of
times.
Farmers
and
cities,
citizens
in
the
neighborhood
that
know
what's
going
on
in
their
communities
and
know
how
to
relate
to
the
people
in
their
communities
and
know
how
to
get
conservation
on
the
ground.
F
As
we
say,
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
were
districts
were
initially
a
bridge
between
federal
programs
and
the
local
communities
and
they
dealt
with
small,
manageable
areas
at
the
county
level
and
dealt
with
private
and
private
and
public
lands
and
have
always,
and
still
continue
to
be
voluntary
in
nature
incentive
based
programs.
We
try
to
stay
away
from
regulation
as
much
as
we
can
in
1937,
with
the
leadership
of
President
Roosevelt,
enabling
legislation
a
template
was
developed
and
sent
out
to
all
the
states
and
states
begin
to
adopt
their
own
legislation.
F
North
Carolina
with
general
statute
139
adopted,
there's
early
on
so
the
first
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District,
was
indeed
formed
along
Brown
Creek.
As
a
brown,
Creek,
Soil
and
Water
Conservation,
District
and
eventually
took
in
a
number
of
other
counties,
but
today
is
just
Anson
County,
so
we're
very
proud
in
North
Carolina
to
be
to
have
the
first
soil
and
water
conservation
district
in
the
nation.
F
F
Even
before
that
this
whole
and
water
district
was
was
chartered,
a
lot
of
work
was
done,
but
the
50s
and
60s
you'd
just
be
amazed
to
see
the
number
of
conservation
plans
that
were
done
and
the
work
that
was
done
during
that
period
over
the
years
we've
evolved
more
to
take
in
a
lot
more
urban
conservation
concerns.
In
addition
to
agriculture,
we
work
in
what
we
call
the
North
Carolina
conservation,
partnership
and
soil
and
water
conservation
districts
are
at
the
core
of
that
partnership.
F
F
Some
of
them
are
by
agreements,
and
some
of
them
are
just
relationships
that
we've
developed
over
the
years
very
strong
relationships
with
USDA
Natural,
Resources,
Conservation,
Service,
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
Commission,
and
the
division
of
soil
and
water
conservation,
and
this
partnership
helps
us
all
to
work
together
to
bring
a
lot
of
expertise
to
our
local
citizens.
If
we
have
a
conservation
need
in
the
county,
then
we
are
able
to
go
to
say
the
division
of
soil
and
water
conservation
and
say
I
need
a
forester.
F
I
need
an
engineer
out
there
and
they're
there
they're,
actually
staff
to
the
local
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District,
so
that
partnership
enables
us
to
bring
in
a
lot
of
resources
to
the
county.
Our
soil
and
water
conservation
board.
You've
met
two
of
our
board
members.
Today.
The
other
board
members
are
Lynn.
Bottom
are
secretary
at
lease
Israel,
our
treasurer
David's
Nelson
is
another
member
one
of
the
basis.
F
One
of
the
fundamental
precepts
of
the
conservation
district
is
conservation
planning,
which
is
simply
a
three
phase,
9
step
process
that
we
can
implement
either
on
farm
lands
on
public
lands,
private
lens
on
any
type
of
land
unit.
It's
based
on
land
capability.
We
utilize
the
available
resource
data
to
arrive.
It's
science
based
solutions
to
solve
resource
problems,
so
that's
always
been
a
foundation
for
solar
water
conservation
districts.
F
One
of
the
things
that
we
do,
one
of
the
ways
that
we
deliver
services
is
through
what
we
call
technical
assistance,
which
can
be
just
as
consultations,
is
one
of
those
things
a
consultation
can
be.
You
know
a
visit
just
a
one
hour
visit
to
a
piece
of
property
to
give
advice
on
soil
erosion
and
water
quality.
Most
of
our
programs
deal
with
those
two
issues:
soil
erosion,
water
quality.
Of
course
we
do
conservation
plans,
that's
part
of
technical
assistance
that
we
talked
about
a
minute
ago.
F
We
do
engineering
surveys
and
designs
partnership
and
we
have
the
partnership
with
engineers,
agronomist,
foresters
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
so
that
there's
very
few
needs,
as
far
as
if
they're
related
to
soil
and
water
in
buqun
County
is
very
few
needs
that
we
can't
meet
through
the
soil.
Water
conservation,
district.
F
Environmental
education
is
something
that
we
very
strongly
are
involved
in.
We
do
a
lot
of
presentations
in
schools,
renee
rea,
as
our
education
coordinator.
She
is
in
a
training
session
dealing
with
conservation
planning
and
cross
north
today,
so
she
couldn't
make
it,
but
we
have
an
invite
on
competition,
which
is
middle
schools
and
high
schools,
where
you
have
seven
member
teams
that
compete
against
other
teams
and
studying
environmental
issues.
F
And
of
course
we
have
confirmation
contests,
such
as
our
poster
and
essay
contest,
and
those
are
conducted
on
several
Evan,
most
of
them
in
grade
school
levels.
We
have
an
environmental
education
field
days
out
at
warren
wilson
college
for
four
days
and
each
day
we
could
we
pulled
in
about
200
students
and
have
eight
stations
and
teach
them
all
about
soil
and
water
and
natural
resources
on
the
farm
and
in
the
urban
environment.
We
also
have
events
such
as
the
Mountain
State
Fair.
F
We've
got
an
exhibit
that
will
be
out
there
starting
September,
the
seventh,
of
course,
the
internet
and
local
media
Buncombe
County
is
a
real
big
help
in
getting
our
message
out
on
the
county
website,
and
we
do
a
lot
of
project
tours
as
well
see
some
pictures
of
those
there.
So
another
way
that
we
deliver
services
is
through
cost
sharing
programs
and
by
Kyle
sharing
generally
it's
a
75-percent
cost
share
where
we
work
with
a
landowner
and
develop
a
conservation
plan
on
their
farm
and
for
each
BMP,
the
best
management
practice
they
implement.
F
We
state
or
the
federal
government
will
pay
seventy-five
percent
and
some
of
those
programs.
One
is
the
agricultural
cost
share
program
which
works
on
farms.
A
newer
program
is
the
community
conservation
assistance
program
which
works
in
the
urban
environment.
Doing
things
like
rain
gardens
and
cisterns
and
stormwater
wetlands
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
one
that's
very
new-
is
the
agricultural
water
resources
assistance
program
which
the
goal
of
that
program
is
to
improve
the
agricultural
water
resources
of
the
state.
So
we
have
this
year.
Construction
should
be
starting
the
engineering
center
on
it.
F
A
F
F
F
We've
pulled
in
quite
a
few
grants
one
of
our
big
projects
that
we've
worked
on
for
a
number
of
years,
since
the
mid-90s
was
the
newfound
creek
watershed
project,
which
was
a
water
quality
project.
I
think
we
pulled
in
about
2
million
dollars
over
over
the
since
about
nineteen
ninety-six.
That's
going
toward
that
program,
that's
mostly
federal
grants
and
that
paid
for
a
lot
of
the
sharing
in
that
project
and,
of
course,
we
do
farmland
preservation
as
well.
A
G
Yeah,
so
the
enhanced
voluntary
AG
program
that
involves
a
ninety
percent
cost
share
on
those
projects
and
what
you
do
to
be
involved
in
that,
as
you
agree
not
to
develop
your
land
for
ten
years
and
where's
the
voluntary
act
district.
You
can
just
say
that
you'd
like
to
get
out
of
the
program
and
that's
fine,
but
with
the
enhanced
it's
a
little
more
strict
and
you
really
are
tied
to
that
for
ten
years.
But
then
there
are
those
benefits
like
that.
Added
cost
share
very.
F
You
yeah
that
just
started
this
within
the
past
year,
so
I
think
that's
going
to
gain
in
popularity,
particularly
as
people
see
the
you
know
the
ninety
percent
cost
here,
that's
a
real
real
benefit
that
so
I
guess
we
get
back
to
the
there.
We
go
conservation,
easements,
Buncombe,
County,
Soil
and
Water
and
buncombe
county
have
actually
worked
with
eight
conservation
easements.
F
But
since
Maria
came
on
board,
there's
been
six
of
them
that
we've
been
working
on
for
our
one
hundred
percent
donation
of
the
conservation,
easement
value
and
to
or
partial
donations,
morgan
sales,
the
total
is
983
acres.
The
value
of
those
conservation
easements
according
to
appraisals,
is
5.5
million.
The
estimated
County
cost
on
those
983
acres
is
278
thousand
one
hundred
and
ninety
dollars.
We
have
obtained
grants,
1
million
and
eighty-five
thousand
dollars
in
grants
to
help
pay
for
that
I
think
we
just
got
the
contracts
and
started
executing
those
today
on
six
hundred
thousand.
F
Is
that
right,
Maria
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
grants
for
a
large
conservation,
easement
Lester
and
the
value
of
those
donations
is
4.1
million
dollar.
So
we're
real,
proud
of
that,
and
we
feel
like
that's
a
real
good,
efficient
way
and
we're
very
thankful
for
those
people
in
the
county
who
are
willing
to
donate
their
conservation
easements
or
do
a
bargain
sale.
That
really
saves
a
lot
of
money
and
gets
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
acres
in
the
program.
F
F
We've
had
floods
in
77,
82
82
was
pretty
much
a
localized
Lester
flood
and
in
2004
in
2004
we
evaluate
evaluated
about
230
sites
and
repaired
about
190
of
those
total
project
costs
on
that
was
about
7.1
million
dollars,
and
it
was
there
were
some
really
devastated
areas
of
the
county
and
we
were
able
to
help
out
with
that
and
those
funds.
For
that
come
a
lot
of
those
funds
come
from
SDA
there
again
people
that
we
partner
with
so.
A
F
Would
say
in
2004
the
most
recent
ones
I'd
say
we
probably
got
most
of
them.
They
were
just
a
handful
that
came
to
us
later
in
some
remote
sites
and
said
you
know
we
didn't
hear
about
the
program
and
in
that
flood
we
actually
did
a
lot
of
surveys
ourselves
and
actually
went
out,
and
we
actually
had
some
people.
They
went
out
and
actually
walked
some
remote
streams
to
find
okay,
good
new.
F
We
also
provide
regulatory
support
to
the
Buncombe,
County
erosion,
control,
ordinance
and
stormwater
ordinance.
We
review
those
plans
in
our
office
they're,
not
approving
our
office,
but
they
come
through
our
office
for
art.
For
us
to
look
at.
We
also
do
environmental
impact
reviews,
particularly
for
the
city
of
Asheville.
We
also
provide
technical
support
to
the
states.
What
we
call
the
confined
animal
operations
that
we
don't
enforce
those
regulations
diener
does
that.
But
we
do
a
lot
of
the
technical
assistance
to
those
farmers
they're
doing
that.
F
So
we
write
to
waste
utilization
plans
and
do
the
engineering
and
provide
cost
share
and
all
that
when
they
have
to
install
systems
and
also
in
a
lot
of
instances
with
violations,
dinner
will
call
us
and
say
this
is
our
cultural
operation,
but
they
have
a
violation.
Can
you
go
help
them
and
same
thing
with
erosion
control
here
with
the
county
so
and
sort
of
to
end
things
out?
We
do
have
some
things.
We
do
sell
a
few
things.
We
have
a
seedling
sale
once
a
year
in
February
March.
F
F
If
you
want
to
know
more
about
numbers
of
things
that
we
do,
the
last
three
of
our
annual
reports
are
posted
on
our
website,
so
you
can
go
and
look
at
those
annual
reports,
but
we
appreciate
you
letting
us
come
tonight
and
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
what
we
do
and
they're
going
with
and
again
we
thank
you
for
all
the
support
you've
been
over
the
years.
I
really
appreciate
you
great.
E
A
B
Termagant,
since
our
last
meeting,
there's
been
significant
additional
legal
opinion
offered
regarding
adding
sexual
orientation
and
gender
entity
into
our
non-discrimination
policy
and
also
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
citizens
and
also
our
LGBT
employees.
So
with
that
new
information
in
our
citizens
in
mind,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules.
They
are,
in
fact,
our
rules
and
reintroduce
my
amendment
regarding
sexual
inclusion
of
it,
sexual
orientation
and
gender
identity
into
our
non-discrimination
policy.
A
H
H
A
A
Certainly,
support
your
your
views
and
your
as
I
voted
last
time.
I
think
unless
there
is
a
change
in
the
vote
patterns
there,
there's
I
wouldn't
support
the
suspend
the
rules
because
I
think
the
results
the
same
I
think
so,
if
there's
a
second,
we
will
proceed
with
the
motion.
Any
discussion
of
that
I
certainly
agree
with
that.
The
thrust
of
where
you're,
going
and
I
hope
that
we
continue
to
discuss
it,
but
I
don't
see
a
change
in
the
vote.
I.
B
A
B
I
do
believe
that
it
is
important
if
we
are
going
to
be
an
anchor
institution
this
community,
if
we're
going
to
reflect
our
community
and
send
a
strong
message
about
our
intolerance
to
discrimination
and
include
it
specifically
in
our
in
our
ordinance
I've
spoken
to
a
lot
of
legal
minds
in
the
last
two
weeks
and
it's
it
seems
like
a
solid
approach
to
take
without
exposure
to
our
county.
That
would
be
unnecessary
in
the
event
that
there
were
that
very
unlikely,
unprecedented
legal
approach.
B
I
think
I
think
it's
worth
the
fight,
and-
and
I
would
I
would
be
supportive
of
fighting
that
so
sadly,
that
there's
there's
so
much
in
this
ordinance
good.
But
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
person
at
one
that's
today
because
of
the
lack
of
that
that
policy
I'd
brought
up
this
matter.
Back
in
January
to
include
sexual
orientation
and
gender
identity
in
our
policies
and
I
know:
termagant
you've
been
talking
about
this
along
a
lot
with
our
leadership
staff
for
probably
close
to
a
year,
so
I
know
for
our
citizens.
B
It
might
have
been
new,
but
it's
it's
it's
a
very
important
I
think
it
makes
an
important
statement
to
our
employees,
important
statement
to
our
community,
we're
not
statement
to
potential
employers
and
for
that
reason,
I
can't
support
the
personnel
ordinance
at
this
time.
Maybe
maybe
in
the
future,
I
will
be
able
to
well.
A
I
would
agree,
Commissioner
Jones,
that
it
is
absolutely
important
for
us
to
send
a
strong
signal
to
everyone
that
we
do
not
tolerate
discrimination
what's
before
us
now
is
the
policy
that
we
have.
We
did
vote
on
that
last
week.
You
and
I
were
on
the
short
end
of
that
and
I
share.
Your
sentiments.
I
have
likewise
I,
think
all
of
us
here
abor
any
type
of
discrimination.
A
This
reduces
that
gap
I
think
it
tweaks
a
lot
of
areas
that
give
our
employees
more
and
if
there's
one
thing
that
all
of
this
board,
every
single
one
of
us
won't
see
happen
is
for
our
our
employees
to
be
treated
the
best
we
can
because
they
do
the
best
work
and
they
work
hard
for
everybody
here
in
our
county,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we
keep
them.
We
reward
them.
A
We
make
sure
that
we
send
the
signal
to
them
that
they
matter
in
what
they
do
every
day
on
behalf
of
buncombe
county
is
of
critical
importance
to
us
is
the
policy-making
board
and
I
think
this
board
is
going
to
continue
to
do
that.
I
think
we
have
a
great
track
record
of
doing
that,
and
this
policy
moves
us
further
on
the
road
again,
maybe
not
quite
as
far
in
one
area
as
we
would
like
and
I
think
we
need
to
keep
that
on
the
on
the
front
burner
and
continue
to
think
about
that
any.
C
C
This
ordinance
protects
applicants
and
employees
from
harassment
and
discrimination
at
every
level,
from
higher
compensation,
promotion,
working
conditions
and
dismissal.
It
is
disingenuous
and
flat-out
wrong
to
continue
to
say
that
to
continue
to
say
there
are
no
protections.
These
comments,
instill
fear
unnecessarily
and
distort
what
the
current
working
conditions
are.
I
would
hope
our
commissioners
would
accurately
represent
the
county's
position
so
that
our
employees
and
our
community
have
an
accurate
representation
of
the
current
situation.
Thank
you.
C
A
B
A
I
Harriman,
thank
you,
commissioners
and
county
manager.
Thank
you
for
this
time
to
share
with
you
about
this
very
exciting
initiative
in
our
health
and
human
services
department.
As
you
will
hear,
this
initiative
and
dig
crosses
all
of
those
domains
and
our
health
and
human
services,
and
also
includes
many
many
community
partners.
We
are
all
working
together
in
the
Pisgah
view
community
to
help
promote
the
success
in
partnership
with
that
community.
I
You
will
hear
in
reseda
McDaniels
presentation
that
this
initiative
directly
impacts
the
core
services
and
outcomes
for
which
we
are
responsible
in
local
government
Rasheeda
McDaniels,
if
she
can
make
her
way
up
here,
is
the
leader
of
this
initiative
and
has
an
amazing
team.
That's
also
committed
to
this
project
and
she
will
introduce
them.
But
what
have
to
say
about
Rasheeda
is
and
you'll
see
this
in
her
presentation.
I
She
brings
such
passion
for
this
work
and
really,
when
you
hear
her
story
tonight,
you'll
hear
that
passion
her
grandmother
instilled
this
early
on
when
she
was
a
young
child
and
really
challenged
Rasheeda
to
give
back
to
her
community,
and
so
that's
what
you're
going
to
hear
about
tonight.
Maybe
we
maybe
we
should
have
been
under
good
news,
because
this
is
in
fact
great
news
in
a
great
collaboration,
so
Rasheeda
McDaniels.
J
J
J
People
value
an
advancement,
our
mission
states
to
empower
people
to
be
self-sufficient
and
develop
united
community
by
reaching
out
to
people
and
honoring
their
experience
and
a
holistic
approach
to
enhance
safety
and
well-being.
Well,
those
words
are
greatly
put
together,
but
what
that
really
means
is
that
we're
here
to
help
people
we
want
to
serve
the
people
we
just
out
there
to
help.
We
want
people's
life
to
change.
J
My
committee
members
and
some
are
here
today
we
have
Amy
sanuk,
who
is
a
supervisory
DSS.
We
have
Catherine
strata
with
families
together,
which
is
north
carolina
mentor.
Now
we
have
Keenan
lake
with
DSS
will
take
a
village
myself
today
of
Bailey
with
take
a
village
in
zakiya
bell
rogers
with
buncombe
county
DSS.
J
Why
did
we
choose
pisgah
view
and
it's
kind
of
really
a
neat
story?
My
birthday
was
last
year
in
October
and
me
and
a
couple
of
my
girlfriend's
got
together
and
we
kind
of
had
this
little
bit
of
argument
of
what
what
our
responsibility
is
to
get
a
community.
So
I
was
challenged
to
make
those
differences
and
say
well
Rashida.
What
are
you
going
to
do
so?
I
said:
well:
let's
just
let's
make
some
changes.
I
was
a
little
nervous
and
my
friend
Catherine
said
well.
Why
don't?
J
We
start
in
pisgah
view,
and
at
that
time
we
had
a
child
fatality,
and
that
was
hard
to
hear
and
when
I
went
out
to
piss
give
you
I
was
a
little
nervous
I'm
from
DSS.
You
know
people
are
like.
Why
are
you
coming
to
my
community
and
I
wanted
to
change
that?
Because
what,
through
talking
to
families
I
had
at
least
five
people
to
say,
I
knew
that
child
was
being
be
and
I
knew
that
mom
was
going
through
domestic
violence,
so
I
said
well?
Why
didn't
you
say
something?
J
It's
our
responsibility
to
report
that
information,
so
I
decided.
We
have
to
do
something
and
that's
why
we
chose
to
piss
give
you.
We
also
chose
piss
of
you
because
we
want
to
serve
under
community
the
group
of
people
that
I'm
working
with
have
such
a
passion
to
give
back
to
the
community-
and
we
really
do
believe,
is
our
responsibility
to
give
back
I'm
from
one
January
to
first
I
mean
the
second
2009
to
December
2011.
J
We
had
a
hundred
and
forty
six
cases
in
pisgah
view,
27
of
those
cases
where
services
needed
seven
cases,
kids,
with
substantiated
from
the
Galactic
three
will
substantiate
for
abuse
and
neglect,
and
one
for
abuse.
That
means
that
that's
just
too
many.
That
means
someone
needs
to
be
out
there
helping
out
on.
We
did
a
huge
survey
and
we
end
up
surveying
81
families
in
pisgah
view,
and
we
use
these
domains.
J
We
talked
about
safety,
well-being,
economics,
community
resources,
education,
employment
and
connecting
with
others,
but
through
those
surveys
we
found
out
that
it
was
a
lot
of
people
experienced
domestic
violence.
Some
people
didn't
feel
safe
in
their
own
community.
You
have
parents
that
want
their
kids
to
go
to
college.
You
want
parents
that
need
jobs,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
single
fathers
caring
for
their
kids
in
that
community,
and
we
just
have
to
do
more.
J
Some
are
short
term
goals
is
to
increase
collaboration
with
community
partners.
We're
currently
working
with
me
heck
and
I'll
talk
more
about
that
later
we're
working
with
a
bit
of
Mission
Hospital.
We
want
to
increase
the
level
of
trust
with
the
residents
in
pisgah
view.
Through
the
surveys,
a
lot
of
people
talked
about
services
coming
into
a
community
and
leaving
and
I
have
assured
them
I'm
going
to
try
my
best
to
provide
them
services
throughout
the
years.
J
I
don't
want
to
ever
leave
I
want
to
always
be
a
support
to
this
community,
all
communities
in
buckland
County.
We
want
to
determine
and
physical
altercations,
it's
a
lot
of
females
and
adolescents
disputing
in
pisgah
view,
and
we
want
to
help
young
ladies
to
be
able
to
solve
their
problems
without
physical
fighting,
and
we
can
talk
more
about
that
through
our
growth
group
that
we've
started,
we
want
to
see
them
improving
and
academic,
excess
and
all
school-aged
kids.
We
want
to
reduce
the
stereotypes
and
various
to
services.
J
It's
okay,
if
you
need
them
into
if
you're
depressed
and
you
want
acts
or
services.
A
lot
of
people
are
like
well
I'm
kind
of
scared
on
my
family.
If
you
have
any
issues
you
shouldn't
share
with
anyone,
so
we
want
to
change
that.
We
want
to
increase
the
residents.
Engagement
been
involved
in
community.
Is
their
community
they
should
want
to
give
back
to
their
community.
J
My
overall
long-term
goals-
and
these
are
very
important-
is
for
us
to
reduce
child
abuse
and
neglect.
We
want
to
increase
the
reporting
of
child
abuse.
Like
I
explained
in
that
situation,
you
have
so
many
people
to
say:
I
knew
that
child
was
being
beaten
or
knew
that
mom
was
being
abused,
but
you
didn't
say
anything
and
it's
our
responsibility
to
say
and
it's
okay.
I
want
people
to
feel
safe
and
know
that
information
is
confidential
and
it's
okay
to
report
to
us.
J
We
want
to
enhance
natural
support,
so
we
don't
want
to
be
involved
in
everyone's
life,
especially
the
SS.
We
want
to
help
them
build
on
a
natural
support.
So
if
something
is
going
on,
we
want
to
give
them
an
encouragement
to
talk
to
the
grandmother
family
members
and
see
how
they
can
solve
those
problems
want
to
do.
Prevention
of
child
abuse
and
neglect
and
early
intervention-
and
we
also
want
to
increase
positive
health
conditions
when
we
went
out
there.
Our
program
is
a
bit
different
because
I
have
to
brag
on
my
team.
J
We
were
out
there
in
december
30
degrees
below,
and
we
were
just
out
there
going
to
the
house
hose
and
getting
our
families.
We
want
to
build
every
opportunity
to
build
trust
with
the
residents
of
his
give
you
we
want
to
have.
If
they
have
economic
issues,
we
have
a
worker,
that's
out
there.
If
they
want
to
apply
for
food
stamps,
Medicaid
recertify,
we
have
someone
out
there
every
thursday
from
nine
to
one.
We
want
to
build
those
collaboration
continuously
throughout
this
process.
J
We
want
to
be
supportive
of
other
agencies
and
activities
in
pisgah
view.
I
have
a
dream:
children
first
is
there.
We
certainly
want
to
continue
to
support
them.
We
want
to
build
relationships
with
the
residents
we're
out
there
in
the
homes.
If
they
say
we're,
shooting
you
know,
I
need
a
couch.
I
get
the
couch.
I
need
wick.
I
help
provide
that
service
I'm.
If
it's
a
need,
I
try
to
provide
that
service
as
well
as
my
team
on.
We
want
to
sign
kids
up
for
afterschool
programs.
J
Aren't
any
programs,
because
I
think
isn't
very
important
that
we
get
kids
really
involved
so
they're,
just
not
sitting
at
home,
doing
anything
and
out
to
be
an
opportunity
for
getting
for
them
to
get
into
something
you're
not
supposed
to
be
doing,
and
in
the
future
we're
going
to
be
able
to
provide
care
packages.
Basically.
K
Of
all,
like
Rashida,
said
on,
you
know
we
want
to
take
this
time
to
thank
you,
guys
and
think
Mandy
and
thank
Angie
for
allowing
us
to
to
do
what
we
do.
We
know
we're
all
social
workers
by
trade,
but
we
really
enjoy
our
jobs
we
enjoy
giving
back
and
making
sure
that
we
able
to
help
the
one
of
the
parts
that
I
play
in
a
PVA
people
volumen
advancement
is
I
actually
started
a
men's
development
program
in
PVA.
The
the
group
is
actually
based
on
a
book
that
I
wrote.
K
The
title
of
the
book
is
called
my
daddy
taught
me
that,
and
it's
actually
it's
actually
geared
towards
my
father.
It
was
benny
lake
who
who
did
a
lot
for
this
community.
He
worked
for
30
years
of
the
juvenile
center
evaluation
center
and
actually
just
did
a
lot,
but
he
was
in
the
motivation
in
writing.
The
book,
along
with.
K
Did
play
a
little
basketball?
Yes,
man,
along
with
that
the
men's
development
group
basically
is
a
way
to
give
back
and
also
do
over
sheet
and
said
help
enhance
the
community,
but
from
a
standpoint
arm
from
a
standpoint
a
minute.
It's
basically
instead
of
me
reading
those
things
I'll.
Just
briefly
tell
you
what
the
motivation
is
and
what
what
the
purpose
is
behind
the
men's
group.
Basically,
you
know
we
have
a
need,
particularly
with
the
area
that
we're
focused
on
in
the
Pisgah
view
area.
You
know
a
lot
of
young
males
are
being
lost.
K
A
lot
of
young
males
need
more
support.
They
need
the
help.
So
what
I
want
to
do
is
be
able
to
try
to
give
back
by
implementing
a
program
where
not
only
you
know
the
educational
component
is
there,
but
being
able
to
be
around
positive,
influential
males
being
able
to
have
that
outlet
also
by
being
able
to
create
areas
where
they
don't,
they
may
not
have
an
opportunity
to
do
a
certain
event.
K
A
program,
for
example,
weekend
before
last
I,
was
able
to
take
the
group
down
to
the
carolina
panthers
game
so
being
able
to
by
them
with
activities
enhancing
their
worldly
views
being
able
to
give
them
an
outlet.
Along
with
that
that
male
group
discussion
is
what
we
want
to
do
and
that
pretty
much
sums
it
up
again.
I
don't
want
to
take
much
time,
but
you
know
what
mrs.
McDaniels
stated.
We
are
a
committed
group
and
we
really
appreciate
all
the
support
and
help.
Thank
you
very
much.
L
We
started
a
girl's
group
well
and
because
there
is
a
lot
of
issues
with
the
young
ladies,
there
we
want
to
prevent
pregnancy.
We
want
to
end
cycles,
we
want
to
say
hold
on.
There
are
better
things
out
here
than
just
your
environment.
Let's
look
beyond
that
and
they
talked
about
girls,
fighting
and
things
of
that
nature.
L
However,
the
girl
fight
that
I
was
in
what
Rashidah
helped
us
get
this
program,
so
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
discuss
effective
girl
fighting
as
well,
but
we
want
to
give
girls
a
sense
of
purpose
to
let
them
know
who
they
are
and
what
they
can
become.
You
know,
if
you
never
see
anything
except
where
you
are,
and
in
that
environment
you
just
never
you
don't
know
how
to
dream
properly
and
that's
what
we
want
to
do.
L
We
want
to
teach
young,
ladies,
how
to
dream,
because
if
you
teach
someone
a
dream,
they're
possibly
mean
it's
endless.
Their
possibilities
are
endless,
and
these
in
these
girls
they
have
so
much
potential.
Then
we
also
want
to
teach
them
how
to
connect
with
agencies
and-
and
just
you
know,
find
things
on
their
own,
because
when
you
educate
someone
you
know
they
go
out
and
they
educate
others.
So
that's
what
we
want
to
do.
We
want
to
have
that
trickle-down
effect.
L
You
know
you
teach
one
that
person
teaches
to
those
to
teach
for,
so
we
want
to
actually
create
leaders
with
these
young.
Ladies
in
our
partnership,
in
collaborations,
we
are
collaborating
with
may
hack,
YWCA
mission,
hospital
and
I'm
bila
heart
initiative
incentive
and
the
reason
why
we're
also
focusing
on
health
as
well.
We
also
decided
you
know
what
we
can't
tell
people.
L
You
know
they
need
to
get
healthy
if
we're
not
getting
healthy
with
them,
so
we're
actually
having
Zumba
classes
every
other
tuesday
at
the
at
pba,
so
they're
not
having
to
catch
a
bus
and
go
here.
Go
there
we're
bringing
things
to
them.
The
one
thing
about
this
they're
so
awesome
is
that
we're
not
asking
them
to
travel
or
do
anything
because
sometimes
that's
the
hardest
part
is
getting
there,
so
we're
bringing
it
to
them.
L
The
one
thing
I
like
to
say
is
that
you
know
anybody
can
set
up
a
program,
but
the
difference
that's
about
our
program
is
that
we
didn't
go
in
and
say
we're
going
to
give
you
this.
We
say
what
do
you
want
from
us?
What
do
you
need
from
us
and
that's?
What
makes
it
so
different
and
that's
what
makes
it
that's
what's
going
to
make
it
work
because
we're
listening
to
them
and
we're
not
telling
them.
This
is
what
you
need
and
we
have
passion
for.
L
We
have
love
for
it,
because
the
thing
is
we
want
to
see
this
community
become
a
family
pisgah
view
apartments
used
to
be
a
very
thriving
and
loving
community,
but
they've
lost
that
sense.
We
want
to
see
like
this
like
this
and
say
it
takes
a
village
to
raise
a
child.
We
want
to
see
that
village
reconnect,
and
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
are
truly
dedicated
to
this
program.
Thank
you.
J
So
in
closing,
I,
just
sort
of
like
to
thank
you
for
your
support.
I,
take
this
real
serious,
I'm,
very
passionate
about
my
work
and
I
just
want
to
be
successful
and
it
just
has
been
such
a
blessing,
especially
gene
Bell
has
been
so
open
and
the
Pisgah
view
management
team
has
been
great
as
well
as
the
managers
at
buncombe,
county,
DSS
and
I.
Think
the
commissioners
were
allowing
us
to
speak
about
it
today.
Thank
you.
Thank.
M
Variable
rate
bonds
are
also
known,
as
variable
rate
demand
obligations
or
V
Rdio's.
It's
a
municipal
security
in
which
interest
rates
reset
on
a
periodic
basis.
In
our
case,
its
weekly
holders
are
able
to
liquidate
their
security
at
the
time
the
rates
reset.
So
it's
really
a
short-term
investment
for
people.
The
annual
average
rate
over
the
last
ten
years
has
been
as
high
as
three
point:
five
five
percent
to
a
current
low
of
point,
two
five
percent.
M
However,
the
interest
rate
on
variable
rate
demand
obligations
is
not
the
only
carrying
cost
of
having
those
bonds
in
your
debt
portfolio.
You
need
a
dealer.
They're
called
a
remarketing
agent,
so
when
the
investor,
when
those
bonds
become
to
you
or
they're
tendered,
then
the
remarketing
agent
is
responsible
for
reselling
to
new
investors
and
there's
a
fee
for
that,
and
currently
it's
seven
basis
points
well.
In
order
to
ensure
that
those
bonds
can
be
resold,
you
need
a
liquidity
facility,
just
in
case
the
remarketing
agent
is
not
able
to
resell
those
bonds.
M
M
M
Remarketing
fees
and
the
high
cost
of
the
liquidity
facility
are
consuming
the
savings
that
we
that
we're
experiencing
from
the
variable
rate,
their
banks
are
aggressively
chasing
market
share,
their
offering
rates
lower
than
I.
Think
this
is
an
anomaly
I.
Don't
think
this
will
happen
again,
they're
currently
offering
a
rate
lower
than
we
can
get
in
the
public
market
and
for
a
term
beyond
what
they
have
ever
offered
before
this.
M
The
remaining
life
of
this
debt
is
about
12
years
I've,
really
never
known
banks
to
go
beyond
10,
so
I
recommend
that
we
issue
fixed-rate
bonds
to
pay
off
the
30
2.8
million
variable
rate
bonds
that
are
currently
outstanding
by
issuing
fixed-rate
bonds
to
pay
off
the
variable
rate
bonds.
That's
called
refunding
so
today
I'm
requesting
your
approval
of
two
resolutions.
M
The
second
one
is
the
authorizing
revolution,
stating
that
bonds
will
be
issued
for
Anna
not
to
exceed
amount
of
thirty
2.8
million,
and
that
the
sworn
statement
of
debt
has
been
provided
to
your
clerk
Cathy
Hughes,
and
it
was
before
this
meeting.
So
it
can
be
inspected
at
any
time,
and
unless
you
have
any
questions,
that's
all
the.
B
I'll
second,
it
but
I
said
Coco
go
just
make
sure
understand,
so
so,
basically
there's
additional
cost
to
the
variable,
because
you
go
shopping
all
the
time
and
you
get
us
good
deals
and
save
us
money
hand
over
fist.
So
some
of
that
money
we
could
be
some
of
the
money.
The
savings
has
been
lost
because
of
these
additional
fees
that
are
out
there.
B
M
At
your
last
meeting,
you
approved
to
debt
policy,
which
does
not
take
variable
rate
totally
out
of
the
mix.
It's
just
not
financially
viable
right
now,
the
way
the
market
is
and
what
makes
the
variable
rate
so
expensive,
not
expensive.
It's
still
still
a
good
rate,
but
what's
making
it
more
expensive.
Now
are
the
additional
regulations
on
banks
and
the
cost
of
the
liquidity
facility.
When
we
first
issued
these
bonds,
our
liquidity
facility
was
point
20
and
we've
paid
as
much
as
point
60
in
the
recent
years.
So
we're.
A
M
I
really
I
still
say
it's
a
good
deal.
I
just
believe
the
the
markets
as
low
as
we're
going
to
see
from
municipal
bonds
at
1.7.
Oh
I,
think
that's
phenomenal
or
not.
Thank
you.
I
just
I
think
that's
as
low
as
we're
going
to
go
and
when
we
start
taking
back
up,
then
I
think
at
that
point
we've
missed
a
grand
opportunity
to
refund.
A
M
A
L
B
B
B
A
B
N
A
B
Know
what
I'm
happy
to
switch
my
boat
to
unjam,
the
log
jam
and
I?
Don't
know
mr.
carpenter,
there
wasn't
much
on
the
resume.
I
appreciate
Kathy,
going
to
the
effort
to
get
the
recommendation.
I'm
apologize
if
I
wasn't
clear,
I'm
hopeful,
I,
think
I.
Think
recommendations
from
boards
are
awesome
and
I'll
just
be
clear
in
the
future
about
one
of
the
interview.
I
just
think
it's
great
to
know
the
people
that
are
doing
the
service
and
that's
part
of
what
I'd
like
to
do,
but
it
to
move
things
along
and
get
the
work
going.
A
And
with
that
boat,
I
guess
mr.
carpenter
will
be
appointed
okay.
Thank
you
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sir
mr.
chairman,
two
items
under
general
statute:
143
3,
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11,
3,
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one
is
a
matter
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buncombe,
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352
and
the
others,
a
potential
legal
matter
involving
a
fannie
mae
and
freddie
mac
and
to
spend
no
action
other
than
direction.
All.
A
Right,
sir,
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next
we'll
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County
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and
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is
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you
may
leave
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name,
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phone
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or
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and/or
email
with
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county
manager,
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will
be
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board.
Members
are
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comment
on
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during
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Comments
should
be
limited
to
subjects
that
are
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
Buncombe
County
Commission
and
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pertaining
to
matters
upon
which
we
may
act
any
individual.
Speaking
during
public
comment
shall
address
the
entire
board
and
any
polling
of
board
members
is
inappropriate.
Persons
addressing
the
Commission
are
expected
to
observe
the
decorum
of
the
chamber
and
be
respectful
of
everyone
in
the
room.
A
O
By
saying
by
thanking
you
guys
for
your
vote
to
extend
water
lines
to
the
community,
it's
going
to
go
a
long
way
to
help
a
lot
of
people
who
whose
water
supply
is
threatened
in
south
asheville,
and
but
I'm
here
this
afternoon
to
talk
about
fracturing
or
fracking,
which
was
just
legalized
by
the
North
Carolina
General
Assembly,
and
it
would
essentially
create
a
whole
lot,
a
whole
group
of
cts
sites
throughout
the
state.
If
this,
if
fracking
is
led
to
continue
so
all
residents
of
North,
Carolina
and
surely
the
world
deserve
clean
water
to
drink.
O
To
encourage
you
to
issue
a
memorandum
condemning
and
urging
the
repeal
of
the
fracking
law,
which
is
SB
820
and
promoting
renewable
non
extractive
energy
development
in
North,
Carolina
and
I
know
you
don't
normally
pass
resolutions
on
those
types
of
issues,
but
due
to
the
massive
threat
to
the
public
health
that
fracking
poses
I
would
hope
that
you
act
swiftly
to
condemn
fracking
in
North
Carolina
Thanks.
Thank.
A
P
P
Don't
know
if
anybody
has
noticed
the
problems
lately
in
our
cable,
TV
and
and
glitches
and
our
electric
and
things
like
that,
and
that's
something
that
I'd
like
to
question
those
of
you
who
do
follow
the
solar
flares
in
the
solar
activity
and
if
it
does
affect
the
Earth's
magnetic
field
and
if
we
do
have
a
shutdown
in
our
electronics
communications
systems.
Things
like
that
and
martial
law
is
declared.
What
goes
down
in
this
town?
You
know
who's
in
charge.
Are
the
people
allowed
to
be
self-sufficient?
Who
can
be
self-sufficient?
P
Everything
that's
being
put
in
place
with
the
transition.
Is
that
going
to
be
allowed
to
continue?
You
talk
about
selling
the
money
or
means
I'm.
Sorry,
you
know,
selling
the
money.
Yeah
I
keep
getting
those
those
creative
numbers
mixed
up,
sometimes
the
water,
the
water
that
is
essential
for
our
survival.
You
know
I
have
to
question
why
you
would
even
consider
selling
a
water
source
that
is
essential
for
your
survival.
To
you
know,
I
mean
we
have
minimum
wage
and
then
we
have
a
living
wage
and
then
we
have
a
government
wage
and
I'm
sorry.
P
But
unless
you
walk
the
shoes,
a
certain
people,
you
really
can't
understand.
You
really
don't
know
you
you're
you're
a
little
bit
too
far
too
too
far
gone.
So
you
know
question
you
know
with
the
earth
changes
with
the
the
people
that
are
displaced
in
massive
numbers
around
the
world.
How
are
we
going
to
treat
them
if
we
can't
treat
our
homeless
decent?
Now?
You
know
I'm
coming
towards
you.
You
know
in
front
of
you
as
a
leader
as
a
teacher
and
say
you
guys
are
the
ones
who
are
in
charge.
P
P
You
know
how
do
you
get
those
numbers
so
exact
on
either
side
I'd
still
like
to
see
the
numbers,
you
know
there's
things
that
are
hidden
and
it's
the
people
who
come
forward
and
say
there's
this
information,
that's
really
important
for
you
and
and
the
BC
TV
is
very
important
for
the
people,
but
it's
the
people's
voices,
it's
the
communication
that
brings
the
unity
in
the
community.
So
even
though
you
tell
us
things,
you
have
to
also
listen
to
the
people.
Thank.
D
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
remember
the
board
of
three
items
number
one
on
the
frakkin:
if
the
fracking
is
related
just
to
gas
and
municipal
kinds
of
big
things,
I
think
you
need
to
as
a
county
make
sure
that
you're
looking
at
the
county
as
private
wells,
because
they
have
got
fracking
companies
right
now
that
does
the
I've
even
seen
them
take
dynamite
and
and
shake
the
wells
to
get
more
water
or
try
to
get
more
water.
So
you've
got
this.
It's
been
going
on
for
years
and
and
they've
their
fracking
companies
right
here.
D
In
fact,
I
work
for
some
myself
that
does
work
of
this
nature.
So
I
think
this
is
a
very
hazardous
situation,
regardless
of
what
the
state
law
is
on
the
natural
gas,
because
there's
a
lot
more
little
wells
than
they
are
big
uns.
So
that's
one!
The
other
thing
is
mountain
mobility.
Mountain
mobility,
I
found
out
that
it
cuts
off
at
certain
lines
and
some
of
these
family
care
homes
are
not
getting
mountain
mobility
out
to
those
areas.
D
Now
this
is
something
I've
been
told
by
a
very
reliable
source
that
agency
that
works
with
people
and
if
you
need
any
help
further,
all
happy
with
that.
That's
the
second
thing.
Third
thing:
Duke:
let's
duke
it
out
all
right,
duke
power
and
progress
energy,
I
had
a
cable
run
to
my
house
and
I
found
out
that
the
cable
company,
when
it
came
out
it,
took
him
eight
hours.
Instead
of
maybe
one
in
hives,
they
had
to
go
through
the
trees.
They
had
to
clean
up
I.
N
D
They
had
to
go
to
some
really
grunt
work
to
get
through
the
time
it
took
would
have
been
iron
house,
most
likely
I
call
the
power
company
and
asked
them
if
they
would
come
and
clean
out
the
trees
from
there
right
away
that
they
got
from
my
property
up
to
my
house.
They
said
we
no
longer
do
that
as
of
nine
months
ago.
So
that's
when
the
murder
took
place
and
if
I
am
confronted
with
this,
how
many
more
is
confronted
with
it?
D
N
Good
evening
everybody
Joe
Belcher
from
candler
I'm
here
speaking
as
a
citizen
and
I
I've
struggled
with
doing
this
this
evening.
I
know
it's
the
right
thing
to
say
and
to
do
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
as
a
board,
understand
that
this
is
not
directed
at
you,
as
individuals
will
be
very
clear
about
that.
N
N
It
does
not
reflect
the
values
of
this
county
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
it
at
all
that
it
reflects
the
values
of
this
board.
I
think
you
all
know
where
my
heart
is
on
this,
but
I
do
believe
that
someone
needs
to
stand
up
and
say
that
this
and
be
strong
and
stand
for
decency
and
values
for
the
majority
of
the
county
and
the
citizens
of
the
county.
This
rally
does
not
reflect
the
vision
that
we
have
our
children
or
reflect
the
values
of
this
county.
N
It
does
not
reflect
or
add
to
our
character,
does
not
improve
our
business,
does
not
attract
dollars
to
the
county
and
I
believe
it
runs
off
people
that
might
show
up
or
view
it.
This
is
not
about
liberty
at
all.
It's
about
exposure
and
I
for
one
and
it
just
about
everybody
I
know,
is
against
it.
I
think
when
things
like
that
come
come
up
from
time
to
time,
we
should
have
the
courage
to
just
say
something:
make
a
statement
and
I
believe
that
this
board
has
courage.
I.
Do
that.
N
I
believe
that
I
believe
you
have
things
in
your
past
that
have
shaped
your
values.
You
know
I
want
to
challenge
all
of
us
when
we
see
something
like
that.
That
does
not
reflect
the
values
of
this
county
or
the
vision
we
have
for
the
county
and
does
not
publicize
the
county
in
a
positive
light.
We
should
stand
against
it
very
peaceably,
very
politely.
Thank
you.
Thank.