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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (April 16, 2019)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' from April 16, 2019. To view the meeting agenda, or future meeting agendas, please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
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A
Before
we
begin
our
meeting
this
evening,
let's
take
a
moment
to
reflect
on
how
fortunate
we
are
for
the
service
of
our
first
responders,
as
we
have
seen
the
news
and
images
of
the
fire
in
Paris
France,
which
caused
great
destruction
to
one
of
the
oldest
and
most
beautiful
churches
in
the
world.
We
are
reminded
of
how
much
we
owe
to
our
first
responders
and
firefighters.
A
These
are
the
people
who
dedicate
themselves
to
the
protection
of
lives
and
homes
and
communities.
So
before
we
begin
our
meeting,
let's
have
a
moment
of
for
silent
a
moment
for
silent
prayer
and
appreciation
for
our
firefighters
and
first
responders
here
in
Buncombe
County
and
for
all
the
good
people
who
do
this
important
work
around
the
world.
Please
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence.
A
Thank
you,
and
before
we
begin
the
meeting
I'd
like
to
ask
everyone
to
please
silence
your
cell
phones
or
put
them
on
mute
or
turn
them
off.
I
also
want
to
announce
that
we
have
parking
validation
for
any
people
who
are
attending
the
County
Commission
meeting
this
evening.
If
you
parked
in
the
county's
parking
deck
next
door
or
used
Asheville
Transit
to
come
to
the
meeting,
you
can
get
validation
from
one
of
the
officers
who
are
attending
the
meeting
this
evening.
On
your
way
out,
let
me
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
A
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
county
commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
would
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
A
B
A
C
He
spent
a
lot
of
time
preparing
for
his
Eagle
Scout
award
less
than
5%
of
Boy
Scouts
received
this
honor.
The
project
that
he
chose
to
work
towards
was
with
helpmate
and
helping
victims
and
survivors
of
domestic
abuse
and
violence
in
their
homes.
So
with
that
said,
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
of
Buncombe
County,
this
board
does
hereby
express
its
sincere
appreciation
for
the
dedication
and
determination
that
it
took
for
you
to
achieve
this
honor
in
Boy
Scouts.
A
Great
great
job,
Elias,
we're
proud
of
you
and
I,
was
in
the
scouts
and
I
think
I
made
it
to
like
Tenderfoot
or
I.
Think
it's
what
I
think
they
called
it
and
no
further.
So
you
went
way
way
beyond
where
I
did
in
my
scouting
endeavors
I
loved
it
that
I
loved,
going
camping
and
the
scouts
are
a
great
organization.
So
that's
an
amazing
accomplishment,
so
great
job
all
right.
A
We
added
the
rural
broadband
presentation.
I
guess
we
didn't
say
exactly
when
we
were
gonna
fit
that
in
do
we
want
to
go
head
and
do
that
now
or
do
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
do
the
legal
settlement?
Let's
do
the
presentation
and
then
we'll
do
the
closed
session
after
that,
so
we
have
Sarah
Nichols
with
us
from
the
land
of
sky,
Regional,
Council
and
she'll
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
efforts
to
identify
the
opportunities
for
expanded,
affordable
rural
broadband
in
Buncombe
County.
D
D
Internet
access
was
once
a
luxury
item,
but
is
now
considered
a
basic
utility
for
many
activities.
We
feel
when
you
invest
in
broadband.
You
invest
in
education,
Public,
Safety,
healthcare,
economic
development,
quality
of
life
and
your
people,
landis
guys
been
working
on
the
west
engine
project
for
about
four
years.
Broadband
surfaced
as
a
concern
at
our
last
cents
plan
and
started
as
a
group
of
leaders
wanting
to
improve
options
in
the
area.
D
They
followed
a
model
that
had
worked
in
other
part
of
the
state
to
leverage
public-private
partnership
to
deploy
broadband
and
teamed
our
region's
most
population
dense
areas
to
help
attract
a
new
provider.
We
are
continuing
to
work
with
that
provider
to
remove
barriers
or
deployment.
Meanwhile,
focusing
energy
on
Phase
two,
with
the
help
of
an
AR
C
grant.
We
are
doing
some
high-level
broadband
planning,
we're
following
the
North
Carolina
Broadband
playbook,
to
show
local
leaders
like
you
and
providers
where
Buncombe
County
stands.
D
This
includes
vertical
assets,
such
as
cell
towers
or
tall
buildings.
Anything
that's
kind
of
taller
than
anything
else
has
a
fiber
backbone
and
power
run
to
it
could
be
used
to
leverage
additional
support
for
the
community
as
well
as
community
assets
such
as
fire
departments,
community,
centers
or
libraries.
We
currently
have
these
towers.
The
county
owns,
mapped
and
are
continuing
to
build.
The
layers
ultimately
will
use
this
information
to
help
leverage
more
service
for
the
community
I.
D
D
We've
been
at
this
for
a
little
while
now
and
have
been
working
with
some
of
the
partners
to
help
get
quality
data.
So
far
we
have
about
900
survey
responses
from
Buncombe
County
for
this
information
to
be
a
value
to
the
providers
and
the
planners
more
data
is
critical,
but
I'd
like
to
show
you
what
we've
been
finding
so
far
in
this
map.
D
However,
in
this
map,
we're
showing
a
lot
of
people
countywide
that
feel
their
service
is
not
meeting
their
needs.
What
you'll
notice,
also
is
that
there's
areas
of
the
counties
not
very
well
represented
and
that
data
in
more
rural
areas
of
the
county,
so
much
higher
concentrations
of
dissatisfaction.
D
My
plan
is
to
focus
the
energy
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks
and
then
start
working
with
our
staff
county
staff
to
process
the
data,
fill
gaps
and
create
a
deployment
plan
for
the
county.
That's
representative
of
the
current
concerns
will
then
be
prepared
to
host
a
provider
meeting
to
share
the
data
and
hopefully
over
time,
enjoy
improved
connectivity,
countywide.
A
I
guess
just
you
know,
we're
it'll
be
great.
When
this
assessment
is
finished,
we
have
more
data,
so
we
would
definitely
like
to
follow
up
once
we
have
that
to
kind
of
have
a
further
discussion
about
what
you
know,
what
are
some
of
the
best
opportunities,
and
what
can
local
government
do
to
really
help
advance
this
effort?
Obviously
it's
something
that
is
of
you
know.
This
is
a
kind
of
infrastructure
that
is
just
so
important
to
people
is
just
day-to-day
ability
to
work
and
communicate
and
I.
A
Think
we've
all
been
impressed
by
how
the
project
that
we
supported
in
sandy
mush,
which
was
to
bring
internet
access
to
the
community
center
there,
how
much
that
has
helped
and
at
that
one
spot,
but
it's
just
one
spot
so
I
think
we're
trying
to
really
identify
what
are
the
opportunities
that
we
can?
We
can
help
move
this
process
forward
faster
than
it
would
otherwise.
A
We
know
that
this
is
probably
going
to
improve
naturally
over
time,
as
the
different
companies
want
to
do
more
business,
but
we'd
like
to
see
it
happen
sooner
rather
than
later
so
I'm.
Anything
you'd
like
to
share
with
us
now
or
should
we
just
encourage
folks
to
participate
in
the
the
survey
and
then
schedule
another
time
to
talk
once
we
have
more
data
I
think.
A
A
E
F
You
need
a
motion
to
go
into
closed
session
pursuant
to
north
carolina
general
statute.
143
318
point
11
a
three
to
discuss
with
your
retain
legal
counsel,
the
matter
of
County
of
bunkum
versus
Wanda,
Skellington,
green
I'm,
sorry,
Wanda,
Skellington,
green
Amanda,
Lewis,
stone,
John,
Crichton,
Joe
Weisman,
as
shown
at
18
CBS
4206.
F
G
A
H
I
J
I
I
L
A
M
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
Commission
this
evening,
I
would
ask
that
the
board
approve
a
resolution
of
civil
matter
involving
Amanda
stone.
She
has
agreed
I
have
a
an
official
check
payable
to
London
County
in
the
amount
of
one
hundred
seventy
one
thousand
two
hundred
forty-one
dollars.
If
the
exchange
for
this,
she
would
be
receiving
a
limited
release
that
would
only
release
her
for
the
claims
which
we're
currently
aware,
which
are
itemized
in
the
release
to
be
executed
by
the
chairman
and
half
the
board.
A
M
M
Some
of
the
items
that
we
have
been
reimbursed
for
I'm
not
sure,
would
have
fallen
under
the
definition
of
theft
contained
in
that
policy.
We
filed
the
claims
but
asked
the
insurance
company
to
hold
off,
because
obviously
the
county
was
out
more
money
than
that
and
we've
recovered
more
money
than
that.
M
M
The
company
has
agreed
to
reimburse
the
county
every
penny
of
that
money
which
totaled
eighty
two
thousand
four
hundred
ninety
two
dollars
and
thirty
eight
cents
in
exchange
for
that
there
will
be
a
release
that
they
were
required
to
be
executed.
That
will
release
them
from
any
further
claims.
Insofar
as
these
matters
are
concerned,
we
still
have
the
pending
lawsuit
against
Joe
Wiseman,
but
Joe
Wiseman,
his
company,
that
were
by
no
means
employees
of
Buncombe
County.
M
So
we
could
not
have
made
any
claim
concerning
that
matter,
but
I
would
recommend
that
we
accept
the
county
rather
accept
the
eighty
two
thousand
four
hundred
ninety
two
dollars
and
thirty.
Eight
cents,
which
would
as
far
as
I
know,
make
the
county
whole
as
far
as
legal
fees
expended
in
the
recovery
of
the
sums
from
Wanda
green
Michael,
Green,
John,
Creighton
and
Amanda.
Stone.
A
A
In
I,
apologize,
I
did
not
take
public
comment
on
the
last
motion
which
we
customarily
do.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
comment
on
the
motion?
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
Is
there
anything
any
other
updates?
Mr.
Paine?
Not
at
this
time?
That's
all
right!
Well,
we
greatly
appreciate
your
work
on
this.
You've
done
a
great
job
and
the
tax
payers
of
the
county
really
appreciate
all
your
your
efforts
and
the
great
progress
you've
made
working
for
us.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
H
Mr.
chairman
commissioners,
Mountain
housing,
Eagle
market
project
has
been
ongoing
for
years.
It's
had
a
failure
of
a
structural
slab
and
refinance
and
reconfiguration
of
the
amounts
of
affordable
workforce
housing
at
this
time.
What
is
happening
is
is
that
TD
Bank
did
the
construction
loans,
and
now
this
is
moving
to
Freddie
Mac,
officially
Federal
Home
Loan
Mortgage
Corporation
for
permanent
financing.
But
this
is
there's
no
new
money
here.
There's
no
new
ask
in
fact
the
only
asks
are
coming
from
the
requirements
of
Freddie
Mac
that
they
get
in
the
first
lien
position.
H
J
H
Of
looks
like
from
what
the
county
signing
here
that
$500,000
is
missing,
but
that's
because
the
residential
portion
of
the
building
is
for
one
and
a
half
million
for
permanent
financing.
The
commercial
aspect
is
for
500,000,
so
that
entity,
which
is
EMP
marketplace
or
EMP
commercial,
will
be
signing
a
note
for
that,
and
the
city
of
Asheville
and
MHO
will
be
subordinated
to
the
county,
so
the
county
stays
in
second
position
on
that
loan.
H
I
H
A
C
A
O
O
The
first
resolution
is
requesting
approval
to
update
our
surplus
property
disposal
policy
to
include
allowing
qualified,
501
C,
non-profit
nonprofits,
located
in
Buncombe
County,
the
first
opportunity
to
purchase
such
property
at
fair
market
value.
Fair
market
value
will
be
established
by
the
finance
director,
taking
into
account
such
information
as
past
auctions.
Selling
process
on
gov
deals,
Kelley
Blue,
Book
value.
If
vehicles
are
included
and
current
condition
of
items,
any
items
not
purchased
by
qualified
nonprofits
with
them
be
placed
for
electronic
auction.
G
A
I
H
I
I
just
like
to
ask
for
this
where
this
come
from
comes
from
one
of
the
things
that
I
do
do
like
about
it
is
that
when
it's
fair
market
value,
the
other
is
you
know
a
lot
of
times,
people
will
go
on
and
seek
out
these
to.
You
know,
buy
and
resell,
and
so
on.
So
if
it
could
be
used
if
it
could
be
used
within
the
within
accounting
and
would
probably
you
know,
think
indirectly,
probably
save
us
some
money,
possibly
as
a
government,
have
to
maybe
help
her
supply.
I
A
And
then
staff
could
chime
in
too
so
I
think
some
of
it
may
have
come
from
me.
One
of
the
you
know.
One
of
the
items
that
we'll
talk
about
in
a
minute
is
related
to
the
consideration
of
donations
to
working
wheels,
which
is
a
nonprofit
organization,
the
community
that
basically
works
to
help
folks
in
the
community
who
need
to
get
a
working
car
at
an
affordable
price
to
be
able
to
to
kind
of
help
them.
A
Well,
you
know
certainly
selling
the
vehicles
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
get
money
to
help
buy
new
vehicles,
but
in
some
it
for
some
of
these
vehicles,
where
maybe
the
resale
value
is,
is
really
quite
low.
So
we're
not
going
to
make
much
money
from
it,
maybe
actually
partnering,
with
working
wheels
to
help
get
those
vehicles
to
a
family
in
Buncombe
County.
That
really
needs
an
affordable
vehicle.
You
know,
maybe
that's
something.
We
should
take
a
take.
A
look
at
so
we'll
hear
a
presentation
about
that
organization
in
a
minute.
A
To
kind
of
you
know,
have
some
discussion
around
that
so
I
that
thought
process
kind
of
prompted
me
to
talk
to
overall
a
little
bit
about
you
know
what
policies
do
we
have
in
place?
Things
like
that,
so
some
of
it
may
have
come
from
here,
but
there
may
have
been
other
stuff
going
on
with
the
staff
as
well,
so
miss
Pender.
You
have
any
comments
on
that.
Yes,.
P
And,
as
you
mentioned,
some
came
from
you,
but
other
commissioners
had
also
approached
staff
about
donating
items,
and
we
looked
at
a
broader
conversation
about.
If
nonprofits
are
looking
for
items,
how
can
we
help
our
local
nonprofits
in
Buncombe
County
to
address
that
need,
but
instead
of
donating
everything,
I
given
everything
away,
we
thought
if
we
could
establish
a
fair
market
value
at
a
staff
level
and
work
it
that
way.
Nonprofits
could
send
a
letter
to
us
or
they
can.
P
When
we
bring
these
two
items
to
the
commissioners
as
surplus,
we
would
also
publish
that
list
that
nonprofits,
that
income
and
first
comes
first
our
basis
and
get
items
that
they
could
use
in
their
organizations
to
help
serve
the
citizens
of
Buncombe
County.
First.
After
that,
then
we
can
put
them
on
cup
DS
and
sell
them
as
an
auction
where
the
price
could
be
beated
up
and
we
can
get
a
return
on
our
investment.
P
So
the
idea
came
from
just
looking
at
what
we
could
do
to
help
her
nonprofits
locally
without
having
to
pick
and
choose
a
non-profit
but
kind
of
level
the
playing
field
a
little
bit.
That
was
where
that
idea
started,
so
the
ass
tonight
would
be
in
this
policy.
Allow
us
to
let
nonprofits
come
in
and
choose
the
items
that
they
want:
pay
the
fair
market
value,
so
we
are
recouping
some
of
our
investment
and
then
the
recipe
could
sell
on
the
internet.
P
A
You
I
wonder
if,
before
we
start
voting
on
these
individually
I
wonder
if
we
should
just
kind
of
talk
about
each
one,
so
we
sort
of
understand
all
the
different
pieces
that
are
here
get
all
the
information
and
then
because
some
of
these
we
might
be
ready
to
vote
on
tonight.
Others
may
be.
We
want
to
take
some
more
time
and
think
it
through.
So
why
don't
we
kind
of
touch
on
each
one
and
then
we'll
decide
which
ones
we
want
to
act
on
all
right.
Let's
talk
about
the
next
item
so.
O
The
second
resolution
is
requesting
approval
of
the
items
listed
in
Exhibit
A
to
be
declared
a
surplus
property
and
to
be
disposed
of
according
to
the
county
surplus
property
disposal
policy.
Exhibit
A
includes
non
vehicles
being
declared
surplus
due
to
mileage
and
years
of
service
and
three
lots
of
computer
monitors
and
laptops
that
have
surpassed
life
expectancy
and
are
at
the
end
of
life.
I
P
Correct
this
is
what's
available
right
now.
That's
that
the
department's
have
turned
in
as
surplus
our
plan
going
forward
as
departments
turn
in
surplus.
You
will
see
this
at
least
twice
a
year
that
way
we
can
clean
out
our
inventory
and
get
them
back
either
sold
or
in
the
hands
of
nonprofits.
But
this
is
something
you
want
to
do
every
six
months,
so
we
would
not
have
a
backlog
of
items
sitting
awaiting
to
be
disposed.
Oh,
okay,.
I
P
List
will
be
prepared
and
you
will
have
to
first
declare
that
surplus,
so
we
will
bring
it
to
you.
You
will
declared
our
surplus
will
give
nonprofit
advertise
and
give
them
six
ten
days
for
nonprofits
to
come
and
select
any
items
paid
and
paid
a
fair
market
value
before
it
does
that
we
would
have
the
departments
look
through
the
items
if
they
can
use
it
within
the
county.
That's
what
we
will
do
if
they
can't
use
it
that
will
be
declared
surplus.
We
will
bring
that
to
you.
P
You
would
pass
the
resolution
to
clear
net
surplus.
We
would
then
list
it
locally
for
nonprofits
nonprofits
can
come
and
they
can
bid
on
the
items.
Well,
they
can
purchase
the
items
at
fair
market
value
after
that
they
would
go
on
internet
and
be
sold
on
gov
deals
which
will
be
a
bidding
process.
Okay,.
I
K
I'm
not
for
this,
because
I
am
a
car
dealer
and
I
have
gone
on
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
for
looking
at
vehicles
and
bidding
on
them
and
you
get
outbid
nonprofits.
You
know
it's
I'm,
not
a
non-profit,
so
I
can't
get
anything
for
free
and
trying
to
do
a
market
value
of
a
vehicle
is
not
exactly
going
to
be
the
easiest
thing
to
do.
Plus
we
are
asking
the
staff
to
spend
more
time
looking
at
this,
instead
of
just
putting
it
on
govco,
letting
the
people
bid
and
it
go
away.
K
The
one
thing
that
I
want
to
do
that
I've
been
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
you
know.
We've
got
a
couple
of
fire
departments
that
need
a
couple
of
vehicles
and
that
I
want
to
because
that's
in
the
life-saving
Department,
it's
not
in
the
freebie
Department.
You
know
that
we're
looking
at
anybody,
I
guess
the
501c3
is
or
one
or
whatever
is
in
that
area.
I
have
looked
at
the
lot
down
here
where
the
gentleman
has
his
cars
and
he
has
a
whole
lot
of
cars
down
there.
K
K
So,
but
there
is
a
Durango
tied
into
that
deal
that
broader
efforts
been
looking
for
a
car
for
ever
fire
department
and
I,
told
him.
We
had
a
Durango
family
and
they
would
like
to
have
it
because
it's
bigger,
because
they've
got
two
full-time
people
and
I
got
26
people
that
are
that
basically
just
come
and
help
fight
fires,
but
they
have
to
send
them
to
classes
and
they're
having
to
use
a
bigger
truck
from
the
fire
department
or
use
their
own
vehicles
to
be
able
to
go
to
these
classes.
K
K
But
I
am
NOT
for
changing
this
because
there's
nonprofits,
that's
not
I'm,
not
a
nonprofit
I,
don't
mind
going
online
and
bidding
against
people
and
I.
Don't
I
think
we
sell
these
vehicles
quicker
than
six
months.
If
we
pile
them
up
down
there
for
six
months
at
the
staging
area,
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
whole
lot
more
vehicles
in
ten
or
twelve.
So
you
know
Mike
and
he's
sending
room
back
here.
K
He's
done
a
good
job
of
moving
these
vehicles
for
us,
not
just
that
the
computers
and
anything
else
that
we
have
to
sell.
He
puts
online
and
he
sells
it
and
he
does
a
good
job.
So
that's
just
one
person
now
we're
going
to
tie
more
people
up
waiting
ten
days
for
other
people
to
come
in
and
make
a
bid
or
outbid
the
person
beforehand.
So
it
I
think
this
is
a
bad
ruling.
You
can
vote
for
it.
If
you
want
to,
but
I
can't
see
changing
the
stuff
I
can
see.
K
You
know
we
don't
need
to
be
given
away
$30,000
worth
of
vehicles,
because
we
can
that's
not
what
we
should
be
doing
and
we
you
know,
let's,
let's
help
the
people.
You
know
I
want
these
two
fire
departments
ones
getting
the
vehicle
all
ready.
Then
we
need
to
post
the
other
one
for
ten
days
so
that
it
can
be.
You
know
delivered
to
the
other
fire
department.
K
That's
been
waiting
since
three
years,
they've
been
waiting
for
something
so
I
am
I
will
not
be
for
voting
on
any
of
this,
because
it's
going
to
take
that
more
her
time
and
the
people
in
the
department
down
there
to
be
able
to
try
to
keep
up
with
this,
which
we
have
one
person
once
they
call
him
tell
him
he's
got
something
for
sale,
he
puts
it
on
land
and
he
sells
it
and
that's
you
know.
Why
are
we
gonna
make
more
work
for
the
people
in
Buncombe
County,
just
because
of
a
non-profit
or
Commission?
A
I
O
The
fourth
resolution
is
requesting
approval
to
donate
five
vehicles,
declared
a
surplus
property
to
working
wheels.
A
local
nonprofit
corporation.
The
vehicles
include
a
2011
Ford
Crown
Vic
2006
Ford
Escape
2008
Dodge
Durango
2008
Ford
Escape
2006
Ford
e-150
van.
This
donation
was
posted
at
least
five
days
prior
to
today's
meeting,
as
required
by
General
statute
160,
a
dash
280.
A
A
Q
Q
Bye,
all
right
so
at
working
wheels.
We
are
a
nonprofit
organization
up
in
Woodfin
we
repair
and
recycle
donated
cars,
transforming
them
into
working
wheels
for
working
families.
Our
model
is
simple:
it's
collaborative
and
it's
effective,
it's
simple
because
it's
a
really
natural
joining
of
forces.
We
solicit
car
donations
from
the
community.
We
assess
the
best
use
for
each
car
and
we
repair
those
that
we
are
able
to
for
the
vehicle
program.
It
is
a
collaborative
model
program.
Q
We
are
doubling
down
on
the
work
of
local
agencies
that
are
already
doing
excellent
work
in
our
community
and
we
get
these
cars
to
Buncombe
County
residents
who
need
them
to
get
to
work,
to
take
their
children,
to
appointments,
to
increase
their
work
hours
and
to
increase
the
responsibilities
that
work,
which
often
increases
their
income.
We
also
work
with
7
partner
mechanic
shops
who
offer
us
discounted
labor
on
car
repairs
and
as
well.
We
repair
some
vehicles
in
our
own
shop
up
in
Woodfin.
Q
Q
Q
Okay.
Here's
our
why
we
are
an
effective
organization.
56%
of
our
past
program.
Participants
who
are
surveyed
reported
an
improvement
in
their
housing
situation
because
they
were
able
to
move
often
because
they
were
able
to
move
off
the
bus
line
to
more
affordable
situation
or
a
safer
one.
74%
report,
an
increase
in
their
income
and
88%
report,
an
improvement
in
their
quality
of
life,
and
this
is
Angela
before
getting
car
from
working
wheels.
Q
She
would
spend
four
hours
a
day
riding
the
bus
out
to
Black
Mountain
to
the
English
distribution
center,
where
she
worked
and
then
riding
it
back
the
day
that
she
got
her
car.
She
was
able
to
increase
her
pay
because
she
was
able
to
increase
her
time
at
work
and,
at
the
same
time,
she
was
able
to
increase
her
time
at
home
with
her
kiddos.
So
it
was
an
immediate
improvement
for
her
and
two
and
a
half
years
later,
her
Honda
minivan
is
still
going.
Q
This
is
Amanda
came
to
us
from
the
Buncombe
County
re-entry
council,
some
of
re-entry
council
clients
are
sort
of
the
the
biggest
heart
warmers
in
our
organization.
They
really
come
from
tough
situations
and
they're
working
really
hard
to
turn
their
lives
around
and
we're
honored
to
be
a
part
of
that
process.
Q
Q
O
Q
Any
improvement
that
we
can
make
in
our
numbers.
Any
increase
is
going
to
benefit
the
county
in
the
area
and
in
order
to
do
that,
we
need
more
cars.
So
we're
always
looking
for
cars
that
are
sort
of
in
a
sweet
spot
where
it's
a
car
that
maybe
somebody
who
had
it
wouldn't
want
to
put
the
amount
of
money
in
that
it
would
take
to
make
it
reliable.
But
because
we
have
support
from
a
lot
of
grant
funders
from
faith
organizations
and
from
local
bank
charities
bank
foundations.
Q
So
we
we
started
in
2016
as
a
satellite
office
from
wheels
for
Hope,
which
is
the
organization
in
Raleigh.
It's
a
lot
larger
than
we
are,
so
they
had
a
model
in
place
that
they
had
sort
of
pinned
down
over
the
couple
of
decades
that
they've
been
around
and
and
in
that
first
year
it
started
off
very
slowly.
Q
There
weren't,
actually
any
employees
yet,
and
so
it
was
a
lot
of
volunteering
until
we
got
Jamie
Beasley
our
executive
director
and
we
we
got
Mike
Cammalleri
car
flow
manager
as
a
volunteer
for
a
long
time
before
he
got
hired
so
that
first
year
it
was
something
like
eight
or
nine
cars
and
then
the
second
year
it
increased
to
in
the
20s
this
past
year.
We
did
forty
six
program,
cars
and
we
are
just
we're
just
aiming
to
increase
to
help
the
folks
in
our
area
who
need
it.
I
Q
These
cars,
if
the
county
donates
the
cars
they
will
go
to
people
in
Buncombe
County
we
eat
most
of
our
partner
agencies,
primarily
work
with
Buncombe
County
residents.
Part
of
our
expansion
plan
in
the
future
in
the
next
three
years
is
we'd
like
to
stretch
out
deeper
into
Western
North
Carolina,
because
that
rural
need
is
very,
very
deep,
but
as
of
now,
they
would
go
to
Buncombe
County
residents,
because.
N
A
Q
Actually
sell
the
cars
to
program
participants
for
a
cost
of
$500
and
we
do
have
some
requirements
on
our
end.
Our
requirements
are
that
each
participant
has
employment,
that
each
participant
has
a
valid
driver's
license
and
does
not
currently
own
a
vehicle,
and
then,
on
top
of
that,
a
lot
of
the
partner
agencies
have
requirements
too,
as
far
as
sitting
down
and
making
a
budget
and
making
a
plan
for
vehicle
maintenance
fund
as
far
as
amount
of
time
they've
been
with
the
agency.
Q
So
there
are
certain
vehicles
that
are
not
a
good
fit
for
our
program
for
the
five
hundred
dollar
vehicle
program
and
we
need
we
try
to
recoup
as
much
money
as
we
can
from
those
vehicles
to
repair
the
cars
that
will
go
into
the
program.
So
there
are
certain
cars
that
either
fall
below
or
they're
far
above
the
program
model,
so
the
Odyssey
which
I
believe
actually
for
$2,400.
That
was
one
of
those
cars.
It
had
pretty
high
mileage
and
we
do
offer
a
six
month
warranty
on
the
cars
that
we
put
into
the
program.
Q
So
we
want
to
be
sure
it's
something
that's
going
to
give
somebody
a
long
runway,
anything
that's
sold
for
public
sale.
The
funds
from
that
sale
go
directly
to
our
parts
and
repair
fund
for
putting
other
cars
into
the
program.
The
cars
that
I
saw
on
the
list
that
were
proposed.
Look
like
excellent
candidates
for
program
cars,
they're
about
the
right
mileage
they're
about
the
right
year
and
they're,
not
cars.
Q
K
I'm,
a
Diggler,
okay
and
I,
just
don't
see
how
you
have
different
dealers
in
town
that
will
finance
cars
for
poor
people
that
can
can
make
it
and
they
don't
have
problem
trying
to
do
that.
You
know
three
hundred
dollars
down
and
and
you're
on
you're
on
your
way,
so
these
people
got
to
buy
insurance.
It's
just
like
this
Durango
that
I'm
asked
him
to
pull
out
of
this
deal.
It's
a
Hemi
yeah
it's!
K
O
K
Q
I
think
and
generally
speaking,
I
think
it's
important
to
to
know
that
when
we're
looking
at
cars
like
that,
we
do
look
at
that
utility
aspect
like
we
are
definitely
looking
at
gas
mileage
and
we
are
also
looking
at.
There
are
folks
who
do
come
into
our
program,
who
do
need
things
that
are
more
like
for
work
in
order
to
increase
their
income.
So
that
is
sometimes
a
consideration,
but
I
understand
what
you're
saying
main.
K
F
K
That's
exactly
what
I
see
that
will
happen
in
this
people.
Don't
open
businesses
not
to
make
something
you
don't
matter
if
it's
a
non-profit
or
whatever
they
make
sure
that
they
cover
their
help
and
you
know
being
a
dealer.
You
are,
and
you
know
it's
not
cheap,
being
a
dealer
with
the
insurance
and
stuff
I
know:
I
have
to
pay
the
bonds
and
everything
else
to
go
with
it.
Yeah.
Q
Q
Not
a
lot
so
on
the
other
side
of
the
fence
is
actually
a
nashville
wrecker,
so
red
used
to
own
the
entire.
It
was
a
service
station
that
we
are
in
now
and
so
we're
on
one
side.
We
have
two
garage
bays
one
bay,
that
we
turn
into
a
really
strange,
looking
office
and
then
half
of
it
we
sub
leaves
to
organic
mechanic
motors.
So
everything
on
the
other
side
of
that
fence
is
those
are
not
our
cars.
Our
cars
are
only
the
ones
that
are
in
front
of
the
orange
part
of
that
parking.
Q
Q
Okay,
I
think
the
other
thing
that
happens
with
the
cars
is
they
are
put
out
to
partner
mechanic
shops.
Now
we
do
want
to
have
few
cars
in
our
parking
lot.
That
is
one
of
our
goals.
When
we
get
a
car
donated,
we
want
to
turn
it
around
as
fast
as
possible
and
put
it
into
a
program
participants
hands.
So
we
do
use
our
partner
garage
and
we
often
have
cars
pulled
into
our
bays.
We
could
fit
four
cars
inside
our
garage,
so
we're
trying
to
push
them
through
sometimes
that
parking
lot
gets
so
full.
Q
As
far
I
mean
I
haven't
I
personally
have
not
seen
the
cars,
and
that
is
not
my
forte
I've
learned
a
lot
about
cars
since
I've
worked
here,
but
I
am
not
naturally
a
car
person,
but
just
looking
knowing
what
has
come
through
and
the
time
that
I've
been
there
and
seeing
the
cars
on
lists.
The
mileage
and
the
years
look
good
to
me,
but
I
mean
I,
can't
straight-up
say
that.
But
our
intention
is
to
put
them
into
the
program.
Absolutely
yeah.
B
Q
Families
who
purchased
the
cars
they
pay
initially,
so
they
need
to
submit
their
$500
payment
with
their
application.
So
there's
sort
of
it's
sort
of
a
threshold
like
to
guess
for
someone
to
get
that
money
together
to
be
stable
enough
to
put
that
money
forward.
Then
there
is
about
a
six-week
waiting
period,
usually
just
based
on
our
waiting
list
and
how
quick
the
donations
come
in
for
us
to
have
somebody
who's
applied,
receive
or
purchase
a
car.
Just
to
answer
your
question
or
dime
is
something
yeah.
M
Q
So
they
also
pay
a
hundred
and
three
dollars
for
the
tagging.
Title
that's
part
included
in
what
they
need
to
submit
with
their
application,
and
then
they
do
work.
They
always
work
with
their
case
manager
to
be
sure
that
it's
they're
going
to
be
able
to
cover
the
costs
like
insurance
for
the
car,
and
we
talked
to
them
in
our
orientation
about
car
fund
right
so
to
say:
hey
how
much
can
you
expect
in
expenses
on
this
car?
Q
Q
Q
Don't
I
don't
have
hard
numbers
on
that,
but
I
have
stories
on
that
and
I
know.
Anecdotes
are
not
data,
but
but
we
very
often
see
that
within
a
year
to
two
years,
people
are
able
to
go
ahead
and
get
themselves
a
car.
That
is
a
little
newer
that
they're
or
that's
a
little
larger
for
if
their
family's
growing.
B
A
L
A
comment,
thank
you,
so
much
for
taking
the
time
to
share
this
with
us.
I
actually
heard
about
y'all
from
the
folks
at
on
track,
who
are
kind
of
describing
how
they
are
preparing
this
program
with
a
match
savings
program.
They
offer
that
offers
sort
of
financial
literacy
skills,
but
also
helps
people
build
that
kind
of
safety
net
that,
if
you're
not
born
into
a
family
that
has
those
kind
of
resources
or
parents
who
can
give
you
a
car,
which
many
many
folks
are
you
me
or
not.
L
It's
really
helping
people
kind
of
get
a
leg
up
so
part
of
what
it
is
so
compelling
to
me
about
this.
There's
approach,
y'all
are
taking
and
specifically
the
ways
you're
partnering,
with
collaborating
with
some
other
nonprofits.
Is
that
it's
such
a
logical,
practical
solution
to
a
problem.
We
hear
about
all
the
time.
L
I've
lost
count
of
the
number
stories
I've
heard
of
folks
who
are
saying
I'm,
taking
I'm
spending
three
or
four
hours
of
my
day,
trying
to
get
to
work
or
high
school
students
who
are
trying
to
get
to
an
after-school
job
to
save
money
for
college
and
unless
we're
gonna
significantly
expand
the
public
transportation
system,
which
is
something
I'd
like
to
see
us
do
over
the
long
term.
It
feels
like
helping
people
access
the
tool
they
need
to
get
around
our
community.
L
It
just
makes
so
much
sense
and
and
there's
something
very
appealing
about
thinking
about
that
I
think
about
this
or
what's
on
the
table
at
least
which
I'm
excited
were
talking
about.
You
know
it's
sort
of
in
the
same
broad
school
of
the
county,
assessing
all
the
buildings
in
land
we
have
and
thinking
about.
Are
there
ways
that
some
of
the
county's
assets
can
be
used
towards
public
purposes
that
serve
residents
of
Buncombe
County
and
especially
those
folks
who
are
in
need
so
I'm
excited
we're.
L
L
F
I
The
thing
I'm
struggling
with
is
that
you
know
you
know
I'm
looking
at
a
policy
and
its
first
time,
I
seen
it
was
when
it
was
dropped
on
the
agenda.
I
have
a
problem
with
that:
I
I
don't
have
a
problem.
What
I?
What
I
like
is
we're
having
a
good
discussion
about
it
and
so
I'm
gonna
ask
our
attorneys.
I
Can
we
can
we
deal
with
this
one
resolution?
It
says:
okay,
we
we
want
it.
We
got
two
resolutions:
okay,
the
one
that
says:
what's
the
fire
department
that
has
a
resolution
in
your
okay
French
bra
okay,
so
we
can
deal
with
that
right
without
changing
policy.
Yes,
we
can
deal
with
that.
Okay,
so
my
question
is:
can
we
deal
with
this
resolution
there
and
pull
out
and
make
a
motion
and
pull
out
the
Durango
to
Broad
River
tonight
and
go
ahead
and
gift
these
others
to
the
to
them
tonight
without
changing
that
policy?
I
See
us
doing
that
tonight,
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for
that
policy.
Now,
I
would
vote
for
what
I
just
said
said:
I
would
vote
to
give
these,
except
for
the
Durango
to
this
nonprofit
cause
I
mean
I'll.
Just
tell
you
the
first
thing,
I
think
and
I'll.
Look
at
that.
The
the
Ford
van
there
I
know
some
churches
that
would
love
to
be
have
a
shot
at
that
van.
Not
that
yours
is
not
a
great
organization
you
know
and
and
could
use
that.
I
But
I
know
you
know
some
children's
ministries
I
know
some
some
schools
that
would
you
know
that
after-school
and
some
poor
neighborhoods
that
could
use
that
van
and
so
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
be
very
careful
that
we're
not
okay,
so
many
races
are
hand
and
now
we're
gonna
give
them
four
vehicles.
No
reflection
on
you
I,
like
I,
like
what
you're
saying
like
what
you're
doing
so
so.
P
Q
P
Resolution
the
working
wheels
to
Durango.
You
can
also
act
on
those,
so
there's
three
of
the
four
you
can
act
on
tonight,
which
we
first
declare
surplus,
then
French,
Broad
and
then
working
wheels.
The
Durango,
if
you
do
authorize
the
Durango
to
go
to
French
for
on
Broad
River.
Do
we
need
to
post
that
and
bring
that
back
next
time
for
you
to
give
that
to
Broad
River,
but.
P
C
I'm
in
a
similar
boat,
I
know
you're
gonna.
Be
surprised,
commissioner,
about
sure
to
hear
me
say:
I
agree
with
you,
but
I
want
to
really
ensure
that
we
are
looking
at
this
through
a
you
know,
an
equitable,
transparent
view.
My
concern
is:
we've
said
I
almost
like
we're
talking
out
of
both
sides
of
our
mouth.
We've
said
we
want
to
put
it
out
to
a
fair
market
value
for
nonprofits,
but
we're
also
offering
to
donate
them
tonight
and
again,
really
love
what
you're
doing
with
working
wills.
C
I
So
let
me
come
in
on
that
before
I.
Forget
it
okay,
so
your
thinking
is
we're.
Thinking
is
now,
however,
and
just
for
the
record
I
did
not
put
this
on
on
the
agenda.
However,
working
wheels
has
been
put
in
a
difficult
situation
here
this
evening.
You've
come
in
you
visit
you
you,
you
know
you
pour
out
your
mission.
I
I
think
it's
okay
to
allow
these
others
to
go
and
be
used
in
that
in
that
fashion,
but
deal
with
your
question,
commissioner,.
A
A
A
You
know
to
do
it,
but
it
seems
like
it
could
do
some
good
I
I
personally
at
this
point,
I
would
probably
not
be
supportive
of
a
broader
policy
that
would
contemplate
us
doing
vehicle
donations
to
a
lot
of
different
nonprofit
organizations,
because
there's
so
many
and
and
I
think
I
think
what
makes
working
wheels
different
is
that
their
purpose
isn't
to
have
these
vehicles
for
their
own
organization's
purposes.
Their
mission
is
to
get
these
vehicles
to
people
who
really
need
them.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
different
than
the
idea
of
like.
A
Let's,
let's
donate
some
to
you
know
any
of
the
other
many
organizations
that
themselves
would
use
it
for
their
staff
or
something
like
that,
so
that's
just
kind
of
where
I'm
at
on
it,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
question
we
do
want
to
be.
You
know
we
do
want
to
be
kind
of
clear
about
what
messages
or
intentions
are
we
sending
so
that's
kind
of
my
thoughts.
I
Because
it's
not
on
okay,
so
what
I
want
to
make
sure
of?
Is
it
tonight
weren't?
You
know
this
is
not
a
you
know:
we're
not
going
to
give
all
of
our
vehicles
to
working
wheels
and
I
know
it's
not
that
I
don't
want
to
try
to
send
that
signal.
I.
Just
think
that
in
in
in
fairness
and
in
response
to
your
presentation,
which
is
good
that
those
pulling
that
one
out
and
doing
the
other
four
is
probably
okay.
I.
A
A
C
A
I
R
I
think
you
need
a
policy
and
based
on
what
I've
heard
tonight,
you
always
could
talk
all
night
on
something
that
didn't
mean
any
sense:
I've
gone
by
working
wheels
when
there
was
a
jeep
setting
out
there,
the
second
or
several
weeks
and
I
saw
it,
and
we
revealed
somebody
bought
it.
Working
wheels
has
already
told
you
tonight
that
they
sell
cars
that
don't
fit
their
need,
so
they've
got
a
way
to
make
profits.
R
Okay,
there
are
nonprofit,
but
they
have
to
make
profit
to
pay
the
salaries
all
right.
So
that's
that's
a
fact.
You
need
a
policy,
and
the
policy
should
state
that
fair
market
value
if
a
car
is
valued
for
sale
at
$500
on
their
Mike.
What's
it
going
to
be
worth
as
surplus
250
300,
so
you
put
it
on
your
list
at
that
price
and
that
list
is
open
to
anybody
that
wants
to
bid
on
it,
including
working
wheels
because
they
have
a
source
of
generating
more
income.
R
Also,
they
get
donations,
so
they
could
bet
on
that
list
if
they
see
something
they
want
to
fix
their
program.
Secondly,
if
anybody
that
is
an
organization
of
Buncombe
County,
that's
important
now,
Buncombe
County
sees
a
vehicle
owner
that
they
can
use
and
turn
into
value,
for
them
should
come
right
here
and
say
to
this
board.
I'd
like
to
have
this
vehicle
donated
to
me-
and
here
is
one
and
number
three
or
four,
whichever
it
is.
All
nonprofits
should
open
their
books
to
this
board.
R
If
this
board
supports
them,
I
would
like
to
know
how
many
cars
they
sold
at
a
profit
last
year.
Don't
know
why
I,
don't
not
gonna
ask
how
much
profit
there
may
be,
but
I
wonder
how
many
they
sold
for
a
profit.
I
want
to
know
how
many
they
donated
I
want
to
know
how
many
that
they
didn't
get
paid
for,
because
if
you're
gonna
support
a
program
like
this
and
give
them
a
vehicle's
tonight,
you
need
to
know
what
you're
doing
with
them.
That's
why
you've
got
to
go
act
and
establish
a
simple
policy.
R
Folks,
you
put
it
on
a
list.
Nonprofits
can
bid
on
it
and,
if
a
non-profit
wants
them,
let
him
make
a
presentation
to
you,
a
policy
that
avoids
what
you're
doing
tonight.
You
bring
up
a
topic
and
you
spend
you've
spent
all
these
innuendos
and
arrows
and
changes
and
everybody
does
all
of
this,
make
it
simple.
G
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members,
board
I
hope
we
have
this
bigger
discussion
when
we
have
the
bigger
nonprofits
and
their
money.
These
are
little
out
of
gear.
I.
Think
I
follow
up
on
Mike's
concern
about
the
fire
departments.
I
think
we
need
the
policy
to
read
that
they
get
the
first
priority
when
we're
dealing
with
safety,
health
and
welfare
of
the
community.
A
Thanks
for
clarifying
that,
okay
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
resolution
of
intent
to
donate
the
surplus
personal
property
to
working
wheels,
the
Durango
with
a
stipulation
that
all
the
vehicles
must
go
to
people
of
Buncombe,
County
and
also
I'd
like
to
have
have
a
stipulation
that
these
must
be
used
for
surplus
for
program
vehicles
not
to
just
simply
be
resold.
Second,
and
if
so
right,
it
was
motion
a
secondary
sold,
not.
G
A
You
know
my
what
I
would
hope
is
that
and
that's
all
it
is
that's
all
we're
voting
on.
My
hope
is
that
maybe
in
you
know,
maybe
in
nine
to
twelve
months,
we
could
get
an
update
from
working
wheels
kind
of
hear
how
it
went
see
where
things
are
going
and
there's
no
commitment
that
we're
gonna
do
this
again,
but
you
know
it
might
be
something
as
we
evaluate
the
results
of
this.
Maybe
we
decide
hey,
we
should
take.
You
know
a
small
percentage
of
our
surplus
vehicles
each
year
and
continue
the
partnership.
I
I'll
just
say
because
I
know
we
don't
want
to
be
here
all
night,
so
I'm
gonna
say
that
that's
not
where
I'm
at
I'm
with
them
with
the
motion,
but
I
don't
want
to
send
a
signal
for
working
wheels
it
just
as
an
ongoing
relationship
because
there's
so
many
other
great.
You
know
places
out
there
that
we
might
have
an
opportunity
so
but
but
I
respect
the
Chairman's
positional,
where
you're
at
on
it
I.
B
Also,
I
won't
let
you
know:
I
wanna,
I'm
gonna,
follow
up
and
support
this,
but
I
guess
my
concern
is
affordable
housing.
We
just
give
away
2.7
million
for
20
years
down
the
road
working
on
early
child
care.
I
just
want
to
be
known.
We're
probably
only
messing
with
two
or
three
thousand
dollars
here,
so
this
is
not
medians.
We're
gonna
get
and
that's
why
I'm
supporting
it,
but
I
want
further
disguise
the.
E
A
A
A
What
it
what's
our
policy,
are
we
gonna
do
again?
Are
you
gonna
do
this
more
of
this
in
the
future?
How
do
we,
you
know
so
I,
just
we're
not
gonna
resolve
all
that
tonight.
I'm
just
kind
of
saying
out
loud
I
think
we
still
don't
really
have
a
policy.
I
think
this
is
good
thing,
but
we
probably
we
probably
need
to
think
that
through
and
just
decide.
K
A
A
A
I
I
B
A
A
E
You,
mr.
chairman,
I
am
David
Nutter
I
am
a
city
and
county
planner
I
live
on
Flint
Street
in
the
Montford
historic
district
in
the
heart
of
our
County
I,
deeply
believe
in
community
planning,
in
the
sense
of
active
advisory
subcommittees
boards
and
commissions
for
recreation
parks,
greenways
and
trails
I'm,
a
member
of
the
city's
green
light
committee
and
of
Connect
Buncombe
committed
to
County
greenways,
like
so
many
others.
E
I
have
invested
weeks
and
months,
advocating
and
planning
for
greenways
to
serve
all
our
people
with
linear
parks,
recreation
and
health,
pedestrian
and
vice
transportation,
neighborhood,
well-being
and
county
economic
development,
but
all
the
people
I
mean
rich
and
poor,
black
and
white,
young
and
old,
progressive
or
conservative
or
east
or
west.
We
advocate
for
the
Woodfin
Greenway
in
blue
way
for
the
Inka
Candler
sports
park
for
Black
Mountain,
all
of
which
are
moving
forward
now,
and
four
new
greenways
along
reims,
Creek,
Lake
Julian
and
the
French
Broad
and
Swannanoa
rivers.
E
We
desire
to
continue
the
success
the
county
has
had
in
implementing
the
Buncombe
County
greenways
and
trails
master
plan,
approved
unanimously
by
your
body
in
2012.
We
suggest
a
distinct
and
separate
greenways
and
trails,
Commission
or
subcommittee
would
be
best,
but
we
are
willing
to
work
with
you
on
a
combined
greenways
and
trails
and
Parks
and
Recreation
body.
The
essential
functions
would
be
inclusion
of
diverse
County
representatives,
focusing
on
clear
priorities,
strong
assistance
to
County
staff
and
help
with
funding
and
coordination.
E
J
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Marsha
Bromberg
and
I
live
in
West
Asheville
West
is
best
and
I'm.
A
strong
advocate
of
greenways
and
I
want
to
begin
by
thanking
you
for
considering
establishment
of
a
recreation
and
greenways
advisory
board.
However,
I'm
going
to
argue
for
a
separate
Greenway
advisory
board.
First,
a
little
history
I
was
a
member
of
the
Buncombe
County
Greenway
Commission
between
2008
and
2012.
J
That
Commission
was
comprised
of
representatives
from
the
county
municipalities,
who
are
involved
with
greenways
members
of
interest
groups,
including
biking
hiking
in
the
environment,
as
well
as
interested
at-large
citizens,
with
our
focus
on
greenways
and
our
broad
reach
into
the
community.
We
over
saw
several
Greenway
feasibility
studies
and,
most
importantly,
oversaw
the
development
of
the
greenways
and
trails
master
plan,
which
was
approved
by
the
county
commissioners
in
2012,
the
Buncombe
County
Greenway
Commission
reported
to
the
county
commissioners
through
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Advisory
Board
that
boards
focus
was
parks
and
recreation.
J
Ours
was
greenways
when
I
served
on
the
Asheville
Greenway
Commission
I
learned
the
value
of
that
separation.
It
wasn't
until
that
Commission,
which
is
now
a
committee,
was
moved
under
the
Transportation
Department.
The
real
progress
was
made
in
Greenway
planning,
funding
and
development.
Of
course,
we
don't
have
a
transportation
body
in
the
county,
but
I
still
argue
that
greenways
need
a
separate
board
to
ensure
the
master
plan
remains
a
focus
of
the
county,
unlike
recreation,
which
has
parents,
coaches
and
sports
teams.
J
Greenways
do
not
have
an
obvious
constituency
yet
through
surveys,
personal
contact
and
observed
use
of
greenways.
It's
clear
citizens
want
greenways
and
will
use
them.
I
would
hate
for
the
voice
of
advocates
such
as
myself
to
be
lost
in
the
conversation
of
how
sports
teams
can
be
best
accommodated
or
what
investments
should
be
made
in
equipment,
and
that
leads
me
to
one
last
comment
about
greenways
earlier
today,
I
heard
commissioners
concerns
about
the
need
to
make
recreation
options
available
to
all
segments
of
the
community.
The
Greenway
master
plan
does
just
that.
J
That's
100-plus
miles
of
greenways
reaching
across
our
County
and
greenways,
are
the
ultimate
equalizer.
Anyone
can
use
them
old
young
fit
not
so
fit
black
white
brown.
You
don't
need
to
be
part
of
a
team.
You
don't
need
to
have
special
equipment.
All
you
need
to
do
is
show
up
since
the
Greenway
Commission
was
to
disband
a
dedicated
citizens
have
continued
to
work
towards
implementation
of
the
master
plan,
educating
citizens,
raising
funds
for
greenways
planning
and
advocating
for
greenways,
but
without
a
formal
connection
with
county
commissioners
and
staff.
J
We
have
often
felt
ignored
and
frustrated
a
dedicated
Greenway
advisory
board
will
help
restore
our
partnership
with
the
county
and
help
us
work
together
towards
our
mutual
goal
of
implementing
the
greenways
and
trails
master
plan.
I
hope
you
will
consider
the
suppose
the
proposal.
Thank
you.
Alright,.
S
My
name
is
Anne
Babcock
and
I,
too,
have
been
a
Greenway
advocate
for
many
years,
and
I
am
so
happy
that
you,
the
County
Commissioners,
are
addressing
the
need
for
a
parks
or
recreation
or
Greenway
advisory
board.
Most
counties
in
North
Carolina,
the
size
of
Buncombe
County
have
either
a
recreation
board
or
a
Greenway
board,
or
both
we
have
neither
and
I
would
recommend
both.
S
My
reason
is
that
a
recreation
services
advisory
board
has
a
very
different
scope
and
goal.
It
includes
swimming
pool
management,
sacré
field,
maintenance,
playgrounds
and
recreation
programming,
all
of
which
the
county
does
well,
but
these
programs
have
a
different
constituency.
Greenway
use
is
more
passive
and
unstructured
more
related
to
parks
and
open
space.
S
Greenway
advocacy
advocacy
would
be
lost
in
the
discussions,
and
the
board,
as
proposed
in
the
document
that
just
came
out,
would
not
be
an
efficient
way
to
be
heard
if
two
different
boards
is
not
an
option
at
this
time
that
a
new
proposal
should
include
a
mission
statement
that
respects
the
county,
where
I
desire
for
off-road
off-road,
pedestrian
and
bicycle
paths
and
Greenway
advocates
should
be
included
in
the
board
makeup.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
S
G
Last
week,
there's
a
little
healthy
discussion
on
a
public
hearing
that
I
wanted
to
speak
about.
So
I
want
you
to
listen
to
what
I'm
saying
a
public
hearing
is
public
hearing.
It's
not
a
public
comment.
When
you
have
a
public
hearing,
you
have
someone
like
me
or
anyone
else.
That
brings
up
something
you
need
to
discuss.
They
can
ask
why
or
ask
the
questions
that
the
person
is
coming
up
for
the
hearing
about
a
public
hearing
is
to
get
information
and
give
information.
It's
not
a
one-way
street,
especially
when
you
vote
for
it
afterwards.
G
So
you
need
to
get
a
little
education
on
the
difference
and
when
I
come
up
and
speak
under
public
comment
afterwards
and
then
get
shut
down,
then
I
go
back
to
the
back
of
the
room,
and
here
comes
the
attorney.
Here
comes
the
other
person
that
presented
and
they'd
like
my
information,
because
they
hadn't
heard
some
of
it
before
so
that
tells
me
something
that
I
was
on
the
right
track
on
some
of
what
I
was
saying.
So
mr.
G
chairman
I
think
you
need
to
consider
that
in
your
thoughts
next
time
and
any
one
of
us
not
just
the
chairman,
you
need
to
speak
up
a
chairman,
don't
have
to
say
it
off,
shut
him
down.
If
he's
wrong
about
that,
I
want
the
voters
to
hear
what's
being
said
so
in
the
pre
meeting,
instead
of
having
it
in
the
middle
of
the
day
at
lunch
time
it
convenience
for
you
and
your
staff
have
it
when
the
reasonable
people
can
hear.
G
What's
going
on,
not
only
YouTube
video
hours
later,
how
can
you
I
didn't
even
do
it
myself,
I'm,
retired
and
I?
Can't
even
do
it,
so
you
need
to
have
it
closer
to
the
meeting
time,
have
a
30
minute
break
and
have
it
televised
up
here
in
this
room
where
your
staff
can
come
up
here
and
talk
where
it
can
be
televised
and
if
you
can
see
it
at
home,
see
it
at
home.
Like
you
do
this
meeting
right
here:
do
it
for
the
voters,
not
for
your
staff,
you
pay
the
staff
to
do
it.
G
So
I
hope
you
consider
that
and
I
would
like
to
have
that
public
comment.
Whatever
you
said
that
I
couldn't
say
any
more
about
I'd
like
to
have
that
in
writing.
Sent
to
me
I
want
to
see
where
that
is,
and
you
know
I
would
vote
Ashton
to
vote
to
change
that,
because
public
comment
or
to
be
anything,
you
want
to
talk
about
whether
it's
been
said
before
or
not.
You
might
learn
a
little
something
if
you'd
be
open
to
listening.
Thank
you.
R
I've
been
watching
this
board
for
twenty
years,
seeing
people
come
seeing,
people
go
seeing
people
get
arrested,
seeing
people
go
into
jail
and
I've
asked
from
day
one
edie
nonprofit.
This
board
deals
with
should
have
open
books
to
the
county
period.
End
of
discussion
to
reiterate
that
number
two
you've
got
to
have
goal
set
and
you
got
to
have
those
goals
calibrated,
but
the
most
frustrating
thing
about
everything.
In
those
twenty
years
yeah.
We
finally
got
the
checks
on
the
interstate
on
the
internet
yeah.
We
finally
got
one-stop
shopping
down
there.
R
Several
things
that
I
have
brought
up
and
raised
Cain
about
what
up
I
understand,
still
being
worked
on,
how
much
the
library
cost
they
don't
know
what
he's
library
cost
they
didn't
keep
up
with
the
maintenance
is
going
after
and
have
a
maintenance
lip
folks.
If
you
ran
a
business
like
that,
Mike
you're
in
business
you'll
be
broke
the
first
year
also,
when
you
come
up
here
and
you
give
the
information
like
Jerry
did
that
day
that
I
didn't
know
anybody
else
didn't
know
and
you
get
shut
down
and
you're
sitting
up
there.
R
Looking
at
the
ceiling
and
thinking
god
I
wish
they'd
shut
up,
I
wish
would
be
somebody
up
here,
besides
Jerry
and
Don
talking,
and
what
you
do.
When
you
have
an
item
on
the
agenda
that
you
want
to
promote.
There's
some
of
you
will
pack
this
place.
You
get
on
the
phone,
but
when
somebody's
being
here
born
and
raised
in
this
county
and
cares
about
the
taxpayer,
2.2
million
Swannanoa
to
me
and
Eagle
Street
free
cars,
two
wheels
them
deals.
R
Remember
I
told
you
folks,
they're
gonna
come
in
here
with
the
greatest
deal
in
the
world.
It's
gonna
solve
humanitary
problems,
it's
gonna
solve
energy,
build
a
lot
of
parks
in
it,
everybody
running
and
the
world's
to
be
happy
and
buck.
Ups
gonna
bring
in
all
kinds
of
tourists,
and
you
folks
swallow
it
hook.
Line
and
sinker
you're
gonna
have
to
grow
some
because
folks,
you're
running
out
of
taxpayers,
nonprofits,
don't
pay
taxes.
R
R
T
My
name
is
Tom
van
Steinberg,
chairman
and
commissioners.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
I
do
want
to
just
kind
of
touch
on
what
mr.
rice
talked
about
the
pre
meetings.
I'm,
not
a
fan
of
those
I,
don't
think
that
we
should
be
having
those,
so
you
should
be
having
those
I
think
that
what
we
need
to
do
is
bring
everything
back
here
into
the
meetings
like
we
normally
did
in
the
past.
T
So
if
we've
always
done
and
have
some
of
the
conversations
I
enjoy
listening
to
what
every
one
of
you
have
to
say
in
these
meetings,
there's
a
lot
of
us
here.
A
lot
of
us
can't
always
be
here
and
a
lot
of
people
that
are
sitting
at
home.
That
are
voters
that
need
to
know
everything
that's
going
on,
and
this
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
hear
what
is
said.
T
The
counter
conversations
that
we
have,
where
everybody
has
their
own
opinions,
I,
think
those
those
are
important
for
everybody
here
and
those
people
that
need
to
be
informed.
I
know
that
you're
not
the
wanting
to
spend
all
night
here
and
I
respect
that
because
you
guys
spend
a
lot
of
time
out
there
already.
But
please
consider
doing
away
with
that
pre
meeting
and
bringing
everything
back
here
and
let's
have
the
conversation,
and
so
everybody
can
hear
what
you
have
to
say
and
any
counter
arguments
that
you
might
have.
A
All
right
well,
thank
you
all
for
your
feedback.
We
appreciate
your
attendance
at
the
meeting
this
evening.
I
think
we've
got
just
a
couple
of
announcements
on
May
7th
at
noon.
The
county
commissioners
will
have
their
pre
meeting
at
200,
College
Street,
first
floor
conference,
room
in
downtown
Nashville
and
then
that
five
o'clock
that
evening
we'll
have
a
regular
meeting.
A
You
know
I
just
since
I'm,
making
an
announcement
about
a
pre-meeting
I.
You
know
would
like
to
just
just
comment
that
I
think
the
and
we're
always
open
to
you
know,
hearing
new
ideas
about
how
to
do
this
best,
but
I
think
the
pre
meetings
actually
put
way
more
information
out
in
the
public
side
than
what
we've
ever
had
before,
because
basically,
the
process
of
planning
these
agendas
before
these
pre
meetings
were
set
up,
was
that
it
all
happened
behind
closed
doors.
A
People
would
meet
in
small
groups,
so
you
don't
violate
the
open
meetings
laws
and
they
would
meet
with
our
our
county
manager
and
discuss
what's
on
the
agenda
now.
All
of
that
is
done
in
an
open
public
meeting,
so
definitely
open
to
hearing
other
ideas
about
how
to
get
this
best,
but
I
think
it's
a
major
step
towards
putting
all
of
this
out
in
the
open,
open
and
doing
everything
we
can
to.