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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting Sept. 4, 2018
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This is the Board of Commissioners regular meeting from Sept. 4, 2018.
A
A
A
Let's
have
a
moment
of
silent
prayer
before
we
begin
our
meeting
this
evening
and
also
to
reflect,
reflect
on
and
remember
all
of
the
law
enforcement
fire
and
rescue
officers,
members
of
our
military,
as
well
as
regular
citizens
who
took
action
to
help
their
fellow
citizens
and
to
push
back
against
those
who
sought
to
do
harm,
many
of
whom
gave
their
own
lives
in
doing
so.
Please
join
us
in
a
moment
of
silence.
A
Thank
you,
and
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
ask
everyone
to
place
your
cell
phones
on
silence
or
turn
them
off.
I
also
wanted
to
announce
that
the
county
now
has
parking,
validation
and
bus
passes
available
for
any
members
of
the
public
who
are
attending
the
meeting
tonight.
So
if
you
use
the
county
parking
garage
or
public
transit
to
attend
the
county
meeting
this
evening,
you
can
request
a
parking
validation
from
any
of
the
officers
who
are
with
us
on
your
way
out.
I
want
to
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
A
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
county
commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
Are
there
any
items
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
would
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member
also.
A
A
All
right.
We
now
come
to
the
consent
agenda
and
there
was
a
request
for
some
additional
information
on
economic
development
projects
and
situations
where,
if
metrics
haven't
been
achieved,
how
the
policy
works
to
handle
those.
So
Tim
love
thanks
for
sharing
a
few
additional
bits
of
information
on
that
Thank.
B
You
chairman
commissioners,
as
requested
a
few
quick
points
on
the
Linamar
and
Jacob
home
economic
development
agreements.
As
you're
aware,
the
county
is
engaged
with
both
companies,
as
it
relates
to
economic
development
incentives
in
those
agreements.
These
are
contracts
that
both
companies
were
required
to
deliver
a
certain
number
of
jobs
at
a
certain
wage
and
invest
a
certain
amount
of
dollars
within
the
county
and
a
certain
time
period
through
our
review
this
year
of
the
requirements
for
both
companies
separately.
B
Of
course,
targets
were
not
met
in
a
timely
basis,
and
because
of
that
staff
recommended
to
the
board
to
defer
payments.
The
deferral
of
payments
is
language
in
the
contract
and
basically
states
that
these
payments
would
not
be
made
because
targets
were
not
hit.
However,
those
funds
must
be
held
for
future
years
if
those
targets
should
be
held,
it
should
be
hit.
The
amendment
before
you
today
does
just
that
and
carries
forward
money
into
our
next
budget
cycle
is
not
an
actual
payment
to
either
company.
So
with
that
being
said,
are
there
any
questions.
A
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
great,
alright!
Next,
under
good
news,
we
do
have
some
great
news,
which
is
we
want
to
acknowledge
Beth
Love,
who
has
been
recognized
as
the
Buncombe
County
Teacher
of
the
Year,
so
Beth.
If
you
would
join
me
up
at
the
podium
to
come
down
for
just
a
second.
A
A
So
I
will
just
read
from
this
from
this
statement
about
death
love
being
recognized
as
the
Buncombe
County
Teacher
of
the
Year
Elizabeth
loved
a
9th
grade.
English
teacher
at
AC
Reynolds
High
School
has
been
selected
as
the
2018
Buncombe
County
Teacher
of
the
Year.
The
announcement
was
made
at
the
annual
Teacher
of
the
Year
banquet.
I
was
recognized
as
Teacher
of
the
Year
by
crowd
of
amazing
teachers.
A
First
at
AC,
Reynolds,
High
School,
then,
from
around
the
whole
county
love
said,
I'm
honored
that
they
see
in
me
something
powerful
that
embodies
what
we
all
do
every
day
that
love
graduated
from
AC
Reynolds
high
school
and
is
excited
to
be
back
teaching
at
her
own
alma
mater.
In
the
same
ninth
grade,
honors
English
classroom
classroom
where
she
was
a
student.
A
My
husband
and
I
have
been
involved
in
the
Buncombe
County
school
systems,
as
students,
parents
and
teachers
I'm,
proud
to
represent
all
of
the
passionate
teachers
who
give
their
best
to
the
kids
of
this
county.
Every
day
said:
love
in
addition
to
teaching
love
is
committed
to
supporting
manna,
Food
Bank
and
organizes
an
annual
food
drive
with
the
help
of
dozens
of
AC,
Reynolds
and
students.
She
hopes
this
events.
A
Teachers
teaches
her
students
important
lessons,
such
as
good
citizenship,
so,
on
behalf
of
the
Buncombe
County
Commission
I
want
to
say,
congratulations
and
thank
you
for
your
great
work
on
behalf
of
our
schools
and
our
students,
and
thank
you
for
the
for
being
with
us
this
evening
and
we'd
love
to
have
you
here.
A
few
remarks
with.
D
Good
evening-
and
thank
you
all
so
much
for
having
us
here
to
celebrate
some
of
the
good
news-
that's
coming
out
of
Buncombe
County
Schools
I
am
probably
the
least
of
that
good
news,
but
I'm
happy
to
be
here
to
represent
all
of
the
wonderful
things
that
teachers
are
doing
across
the
county
for
our
students.
I
am
happy
to
be
here
with
my
principal
with
a
member
of
the
school
board,
who
represents
our
area
and
whose
kids
I
got
to
teach
I'm
very
committed
to
Buncombe
County
I
grew
up
here.
D
I
graduated
from
here,
both
of
my
daughters,
are
in
bunk
County,
Schools
and
I'm,
just
I'm
very
honored
to
be
here
and
to
represent
Buncombe
County
Schools
next
week
after
a
rather
lengthy
process
involving
portfolios
and
speeches
and
interviews
and
classroom
visits
will
be
men
naming
the
next
Buncombe
County
Schools
Teacher
of
the
Year,
and
at
that
banquet
I
will
be
making
a
lengthy
speech,
and
the
theme
of
that
speech
is
all
in.
It
was
something
that
one
of
the
the
new
Teacher
of
the
Year
people
said
at
the
end
of
an
interview
we
asked.
D
Is
there
anything
you'd
like
to
add,
and
this
person
said
I'm
all
in,
and
that
spoke
to
me
in
terms
of
that's
what
we
do
as
public
educators
we're
all
in
we're
fully
committed.
We
are
committed
in
terms
of
our
time,
our
energy,
our
emotional
well-being
and,
and
even
our
wallets
and
so
I
want
to.
Thank
you,
our
County
Commissioners,
for
your
commitment
to
our
public
schools
in
particular.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
support
of
our
local
supplement.
I
started
in
Haywood
County
20
years
ago.
D
I
was
there
for
four
and
a
half
years,
and
the
local
supplement
was
definitely
something
that
drew
me
back
to
Buncombe,
County
and
I
know
that
helps
us
to
recruit
and
retain
some
of
our
best
folks,
and
so
I
am
incredibly
appreciative
of
that
supplement.
My
husband
is
also
an
educator,
so
in
our
family
it
makes
an
enormous
difference
for
us,
and
so
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
support
of
that
local
supplement,
because
it
really
does
make
a
difference
to
those
of
us
who
are
trying
to
make
a
difference
with
the
students
I.
D
E
This
from
the
last
meeting,
and
as
you
recall,
it
was
not
adopted
unanimously
and
so
state
law
requires
that
it
go
through
a
second
reading
and
that's
what
we're
doing
tonight.
Two
of
the
items
at
the
last
meeting
were
not
adopted
and
two
of
them
were,
and
so
I
think
Michaels
going
to
go
through
and
give
you
an
overview
of
that.
F
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
mr.
wood.
Mr.
chairman
commissioners
of
the
discussion
on
the
personnel
ordinance
changes
a
couple
weeks
ago
was
rather
convoluted
and
complex,
so
I
tried
to
break
it
down,
got
the
help
of
our
clerk
to
try
to
break
down
the
items
as
to
how
they
were
approved,
and
that's
what
appears
in
the
agenda
this
evening
in
the
votes.
I've
got
a
couple
bullet
points.
F
Those
three
matters
were
approved
by
the
board
on
the
first
reading:
seven
to
zero,
so
I
don't
believe
any
further
action
is
needed
on
that
at
this
time,
but
just
made
sure
to
include
that,
for
for
your
reference
and
for
the
citizens,
reference
item
to
reject
the
elimination
of
article
three
plan,
pay
plans,
section
13,
this
consumer
price
index
that
was
rejected
by
a
vote
of
6
to
1.
The
vote
was
four
to
three:
to
reject
the
removal
of
the
Finance
Director
position
from
article
one
organization
of
the
personnel
system
that
was
again
rejected.
F
Four
to
three
and
approved
by
a
vote
of
6
to
1
was
some
changes
to
the
ordinance
related
to
unsatisfactory
job
performance.
So
in
this
case
it
would
give
it
was
approved
to
give
the
county
manager
authority
without
going
through
the
step
that
progressive
disciplinary
steps,
as
usually
provided
for
rank-and-file
employees,
that,
if
there's
a
matter
involving
major
operational
issue,
significant
financial
impacts,
damage
to
the
reputation
of
the
county
or
so
egregious
that
they
weren't
immediate,
more
severe
disciplinary
action
that
would
go
to
the
Commission
to
the
county
managers
authority
pursuant
to
article
8
separation.
F
Disciplinary
action,
also,
along
with
that
was
in
the
same
motion,
was
to
amend
article
8
separation,
disciplinary
action,
employee
appeals,
section
9,
just
to
remind
that
any
matter
coming
for
review
and
the
personnel
ordinance
was
would
be
as
applied
by
section
8
of
the
ordinance
and
again
that
was
approved
six
to
one.
If
there's
any
further
question
itself,
I'll
try
to
feel
those.
A
All
right,
so
the
the
ordinance
as
laid
out
here
would
affirm
all
of
the
majority
approved
decisions
made
two
weeks
ago.
Yes,
sir
okay,
if
we
approve
the
ordinance
as
laid
out
here,
it
includes
language
affirming
all
of
the
policy,
all
the
policies
that
were
adopted
by
a
majority
of
the
board
at
our
previous
meeting.
A
C
C
F
C
Think
it
does
there's
just
you
know:
we
have
the
red
in
there
and
then
we
have
the
striking
of
the
red,
for
example,
on
the
the
CPI.
You
know
that
was
struck
out,
which
was
the
original
vote,
but
that
was
that
part
was
rejected
six
to
one,
but
it
does
say
that
that
this
proposed
deletion
of
the
section
provided
was
was
rejected.
Six
to
one
yes,
sir
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
way
it's
written
is
is
okay,
I
mean
it
is
I.
Think.
F
C
G
A
Hi
I
can't
remember
if
we're
required
to
take
public
comment
on
the
second
reading,
but
let's
just
do
which
is
later.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
comment
on
the
motion,
which
is
to
put
into
effect
several
personnel
changes?
These
were
all
voted
on
and
we
took
public
comment
at
our
previous
County
Commission
meeting.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
comment
all
right?
Thank
you
further
discussion.
Any
commissioners
on
the
motion.
H
G
G
A
Think
that's
right
and
I
would
agree.
I
mean
I.
Think
the
fact
that
there
may
be
all
things
I
don't
know
if
any
of
us
agree
with
all
of
the
changes,
but
we
all
vote,
that's
why
and
we
voted
them
all
separately.
So
if
anybody
ever
asks
you
can
say
well,
I'm
gonna
be
voter
and
that
separately,
here's
where
I
stood.
This
is
just
a
second
reading,
this
required
by
state
law.
So
it
doesn't
mean
you
love
everything
about
it.
It's
just
recognizing
that
it
required
a
second
vote.
G
A
A
A
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
by
the
Buncombe
County
Commissioners
for
the
county
of
bunkum
as
follows.
Following
the
completion
of
the
federal
criminal
investigation,
a
forensic
audit
should
be
performed
to
identify
any
misuse
of
taxpayer
funds
not
already
disclosed
through
the
criminal
investigation
process
and
to
identify
issues
related
to
employee
misconduct
or
and
organizational
culture.
That
should
be
addressed
to
the
Commission
request
that
the
Buncombe
County
audit
committee
make
recommendations
for
the
scope
and
focus
of
the
forensic
audit
once
the
criminal
investigation
process
and
current
year
audit
are
complete.
A
Three.
The
Commission
recommends
utilization
of
an
outside
firm
with
experience
in
forensic
audits
and
one
that
has
no
previous
or
existing
contracts
with
the
county
for
auditing
procedures,
and
this,
if
adopted,
it
would
be
adopted
on
the
fourth
day
of
September
2018.
Is
there
a
motion
and
support
of
the
resolution.
I
C
So
I've
got
a
couple
of
thoughts
on
Shirley
on
two
two
and
two
and
three
I.
Don't
really
know
how
to
how
to
how
to
put
this
in
here,
but
it
would.
It
would
be
important
to
me
for
the
cost
and
audit
recommendations
to
come
back
to
the
board
for
approval,
so
I
would
like
to
and
I'm
sorry
who
did
the
motion.
Who
did
the
second,
we
got
emotions.
G
I
I
A
Right
so
we've
got
a
motion.
We've
got
a
motion
to
approve
the
resolution
as
well
as
a
motion
to
add
an
amendment
to
it.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
take
public
comment
on
this
now
before
we
start
voting
on
amendments.
So
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
comment
on
this
topic,
including
the
motion
information
to
amend
or
any
other
related
comments,
you'd
like
to
share
all
right,
bring
it
back
to
the
board.
C
A
Further
discussion
on
the
proposed
amendment,
which
would
have
the
Board
of
Commissioners
review
the
recommendations
of
the
Audit
Committee
regarding
scope,
cost
in
the
firm
that's
selected
to
make
final
decisions
on
that.
Yes,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
We
still
have
the
motion
on
the
now
as
amended
resolution
further
discussion,
yeah.
H
It
I
think
I
brought
this
up
in
tonight's
meeting,
we're
getting
a
little
ahead
of
herself
here.
One
more
time,
I
mean
it
goes
back.
We
will
get
ahead
of
herself
a
little
bit
too
often.
We
we
send
letters
to
Raleigh
and
approve
more
money
for
voting
places.
Then
we
hire
extra
tourneys
and
spend
$12,000
that
people
don't
know
about
now
we're
doing
this.
H
This
early-out
is
I,
can
see
it
happening
and
I
can
see.
Wait
until
the
audit
committee
comes
to
us
and
says
they
think
it
would
be
a
decent
idea
to
bring
it
forward,
because
that's
what
we
have
that
committee
for
and
that's
you
know-
we've
been
looking
at
the
for
quite
a
while
in
in
this
issue
and
and
they've
done
a
pretty
good
job
and
we've
got
two
commissioners
on
that
board,
but
it's
just
something
that
was
brought
forward
put
in
the
newspaper
and
now
we're
sitting
up
here
voting
on
something
that
we
don't
know.
H
H
You
know,
I'll
be
probably
the
only
one
to
vote
against
it
because
it's
you
know
I
want
to
wait
till
they
get
through
the
feds
get
through
with
their
deal
and
once
they
get
through
and
not
a
committee
says
we
have
these
problems
or
then
we
can
look
at
the
audit
committee
and
say
there
is
a
problem.
Then
we
can
do
it,
but
you
know
this
is
just
a
little
early
for
me.
Thank
You,
commissioner,.
L
I
I
support
this
resolution
and
have
long
supported
us
taking
this
step
at
the
earliest
possible
date.
I
think
the
members
of
our
community
deserve
this
taxpayers
deserve
this.
We
need
to
find
out.
We
need
to
exhaustively
understand
everything
that
has
contributed
to
the
situation
we
find
ourselves
in
and
I
think
this
is
one
step
among
we've
taken
many
steps.
There's
many
steps
yet
to
take
before
this
will
be
fully
resolved
for
our
community,
but
I
think
you
know.
A
K
Think
the
key
is
and
I'm
speaking
here,
not
only
as
a
commissioner
but
as
a
taxpayer
I
think
it's
critical.
One
of
the
things
we've
got
to
do
is
get
back
the
trust
that
we
applause
as
a
commission
in
the
community
and
I
think
a
forensic
audit
is
gonna,
be
critical
for
one
reason
one
is
this:
once
this
is
over,
the
authorities
are
through.
We
will
know
what
they
know,
but
folks
we've
got
a
lot
more.
K
What
you've
got
to
remember
is
when
we
look
at
the
forensic
audit
we're
not
always
trying
to
catch
the
dishonest
people,
but
we're
also
looking
at
our
infrastructure
and
what
we
need
to
put
in
place
to
help
protect
thus
and
to
make
sure
that
what
has
happened
won't
happen
again
and
I
realize
I
agree
with
you,
Commissioner
fryer,
it's
gonna
be
a
cost
of
forensic
audit.
But
what
price
do
we
put
on
keeping
the
trust
of
our
constituents
in
the
taxpayers?
K
I
think
we've
got
to
think
about
that
and
that's
critical,
because
I'll
tell
you
the
people
out.
There
are
really
concern,
and
this
weekend
we
celebrated
the
hundred
and
fiftieth
anniversary
at
my
church,
but
me
and
my
12
year
old
grandson
was
following
me
around.
It
was
very
successful,
but
he
said
Sunday
afternoon
after
our
service
he
said
grandpa
the
way
the
people
are
complaining
about.
What's
going
on
in
the
county,
do
you
want
to
stay
on
the
Commission's
as
a
commission
I?
Think
about
that?
K
But
that's
the
people,
our
concern
and
we've
got
to
put
things
in
place
to
correct
this
and
a
friends
Accord.
It
is
something
you
know
we
might
not
need
it,
but
I
can
almost
bet.
We
will
need
it
when
this
is
over,
because
we
will
still
have
a
lot
of
answers
that
we'll
need
to
answer
and
folks
I
spent
40
years
in
banking,
I've
never
seen
the
mess
that
we
have
hit.
Buncombe
county
and
it's
not
gonna-
be
easy
to
clean
up.
H
Commissioner,
Whiteside
I
agree
with
you
hundred
percent,
but
there's
another
way
that
you
can
do
this
and
it's
probably
not
the.
As
you
said,
these
people
in
this
county
basically
do
not
trust
us
today
and
I
agree
with
that
and
they're
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
do
this
to
make
it
work.
Well
we're
trying
to
go
step
by
step
into
areas.
Well,
we
may
have
to
get
somebody
else
to
do
it
for
us,
because
they're
still
not
gonna
trust
us.
If
we
do
it
because
right
now
there
is
no
trust.
H
H
You
may
have
to
get
somebody
else
to
step
in
and
I
think
if
you,
if
you
look
at
it
in
a
way-
and
it's
probably
the
wrong
way
to
look
at
it
in
a
way,
but
you
have
to
put
it
out
there
in
the
right
way
that
if
you
have
to
get
the
Treasury
Department
in
North
Carolina
to
step
in
and
take
over,
then
they
move
us
all
aside
and
they
go
through
it
and
they
fix
it.
If
I'm
not
wrong,
am
I
wrong,
or
am
I
right?
H
K
A
C
I'll
come
in
on
you
no
I'm
not
going
to
pretty
simple
to
me:
I'm,
not
gonna,
you
know
politicize,
it
I'm
not
going
to
call
it
for
anything
more
than
what
it
is
it
it.
It
is
a
step
in
a
direction
to
to
make
sure
that
if
there's
any
errors
and
policies
and
procedures
that
they're
found
and
and
fixed,
it's
got
to
be
done
at
the
right
time.
By
adding
the
the
amendment
to
it.
C
We
are
able
to
look
at
the
cost
and
we
are
able
to
look
at
the
scope,
because
when
you
say
forensic
audit
I
mean
you
know
not,
there's
not
many
people
that
can
define
what
that
is.
So
as
long
as
we
have
the
opportunity
to
look
at
that,
look
at
the
audit
recommendations
and
again
I
see
it
I
see
it
as
a
part
of
process
improvement
and
as
long
as
we're
waiting
until
after
all,
the
investigation,
everything's
done
I'm
fine
with.
A
All
right,
thank
you
all
for
your
comments
on
this
I'll
just
share
my
two
thoughts
that
you
know
we
are.
We
are
saying
that
we're
not
going
to
start
this
right
now.
We're
gonna
say
that
I
think
that
there's
been
a
very
good
discussion
at
the
audit
committee
about
this
idea
and
then
I
thought.
The
discussion
two
weeks
ago
was
was
good
too
and
I
think
there's
consensus
that
we
need
to
during
the
period
that
the
criminal
investigation
is
going
on
by
the
US
Attorney's
Office.
A
You
know
our
job
is
to
fully
support
that,
and
they
are,
they
are,
in
the
most
literal
sense,
carrying
out
a
forensic
audit,
among
other
things
as
part
of
their
investigation
and
we're
all
learning
a
lot
about
it.
If
anybody
wants
more
information
on
it,
you
know
the
published
indictments
that
have
been
revealed
go
into
great
detail
about
the
alleged
misconduct
and
how
it
occurred.
So
we're
learning
a
lot
from
that,
but
that
process
will
come
to
an
end
and
I
think
that
this
is.
This
is
a
necessary
step
to
make
sure.
A
B
E
Already
are
going
to
be
somewhat
delayed
on
that,
so
I
would
suggest
that,
in
paragraph
numbered
one
is
that
we
say
following
the
completion
of
the
federal
criminal
investigation
and
the
fiscal
year.
18
audit
I
think
that's
the
intent,
but
I
think
we
should
just
make
it
clear
that
both
the
audit
and
the
investigation
have
to
be
finished.
Okay,.
A
B
E
K
A
G
A
We
come
down
to
the
motion
to
approve
a
budget
amendment
for
the
appropriation
of
1
million,
eight
hundred
sixty
three
thousand
nine
hundred
and
seven
dollars
for
Buncombe
County
Schools
in
Asheville,
City,
Schools
and
mr.
wood
will
start
out
this
conversation.
Okay
before
we
do,
I
want
to
acknowledge.
We've
got
our
Asheville
City
Schools
Superintendent,
Denise
Patterson
with
us,
our
Buncombe
County
Schools,
Superintendent,
Tony
Baldwin,
and
a
great
group
of
our
city
and
county
school
board
members
with
us
this
evening.
So
thank
you
all
and
other
staff
as
well.
A
E
Mr.
chairman,
as
you
recall,
when
we
adopted
the
fiscal
year
2019
budget,
you
withheld
1
million
eight
hundred
sixty
three
thousand
nine
hundred
seven
dollars
from
the
appropriation
to
the
Buncombe,
County
and
Asheville
city
school
systems,
pending
a
meeting
with
Buncombe
County
school
system
to
discuss
the
matter.
We
had
that
meeting
last
week
and
reviewed
their
request
in
detail.
Dr.
Baldwin
provided
a
cover
letter
that
explained
the
added
costs
they
are
facing,
as
well
as
a
spreadsheet
which
I've
enclosed
in
the
memorandum.
I
gave
you
the
North
Carolina
General
Assembly
gave
teachers.
E
E
After
reviewing
this
information,
my
recommendation
is
that
you
amend
the
fiscal
year
2019
budget
by
appropriating
1
million
eight
hundred
sixty
three
thousand
nine
hundred
seven
dollars
from
the
general
funds
fund
balance
and
allocate
1
million
five
hundred
sixty
nine
thousand
four
hundred
and
ten
dollars
to
the
Buncombe
County
school
system
for
operating
expenses
and
two
hundred
ninety
four
thousand
four
hundred
ninety
seven
dollars
to
the
Asheville
City
School
System.
These
allocations
are
based
on
their
relative
ADM,
which
is
the
percentage
of
total
students
in
the
two
systems.
E
Further
I
recommend
that
we
take
the
new
annual
appropriations
for
both
systems,
divide
them
by
12
months
and
pay
any
funds
that
might
be
in
arrears.
Due
to
the
withholding
of
these
funds
for
the
two
months,
based
on
12
equal
monthly
payments,
thereafter,
they
would
be
paid
1/12
of
the
annual
appropriation
each
month.
A
A
So
I
would
just
we
did
have
a
kind
of
an
ad-hoc
informal
meeting
with
three
of
the
commissioners
last
week
with
members
of
the
school
board
and
I
thought
they
gave
a
very
detailed
presentation
about
the
needs
and
the
specific
budgetary
circumstances
that
they
are
in
I
think
we're
all
glad
that
the
state
approved
additional
funding
for
teacher
pay
raises
that's
great,
but
it
does
also
then
create
a
local
requirement
that
we
put
additional
funds
into
so
I.
Think
it's
a
good.
A
It's
a
it's
a
good
thing
that
we're
needing
to
kind
of
match
that,
and
it
is
certainly
more
than
its
typical.
So
so
not
something
that
necessarily
it
was
automatic,
but
as
the
good
fortune
that
we
are
in
right
now
so
I'm
supportive
of
the
request.
Let's
go
and
open
up
to
public
comment.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
on
the
issue.
K
I'll
start
it
was
a
good
meeting
and
it
started
if
I
remember
right
when
we
were
had
some
questions
about
how
they
were
paying
the
lowest
paid
employees
in
the
county
and
I.
Think
in
all
honesty,
this
started
before
I
was
on
the
Commission
several
years
ago,
but
they
did
a
good
job
and
I.
Think
in
our
three
by
threes,
we
received
the
documentation
that
they
gave
us
showing
what
they
did
you
know
and
how
they
are
paying
the
lowest
paid
employees
in
trying
to
unbreaking
them
up
to
living
wage.
K
Also,
we
even
went
on
to
talk
about
going
forward
so
that
we
won't
have
to
wait
to
the
last
minute
and
given
the
appropriations
for
the
schools
that
if
we
could
have
some
idea-
and
we
will
have
in
the
budgetary
process-
hopefully
around
the
15th
of
March-
to
know
a
target
of
what
we
can
give
the
schools.
We
give
that
to
me
and
then
that
gives
them
what
two
months
to
look
it
over
before
the
15th
of
May.
K
With
the
county
now
mind
you
and
the
reason
we
say
target
is
now
some
years
we
could
have
something
that
would
push
it
up
like
the
six
and
a
half
percent
this
year.
I
wish
we
could
get
it
every
year,
but
this
is
a
taxi
and
I
was
on
the
school
board
feet.
He
is
and
I
know
I'm
not
taxed
here.
This
was
in
the
election
here
and
we
always
get
it
every
two
years,
but
you
know
this
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
organize
is
so
that
we
don't
have
all
that.
K
L
K
L
We
spent
an
hour
in
there
myself,
brownie
and
owl
and
George,
and
then
George
presented
how
the
county
of
you
know.
We
have
been
really
great
at
giving
money
the
last
five
years
and
we
couldn't
continue
doing
that
and
with
George
coming
in,
he
showed
the
growth
of
Buncombe
County
and
the
only
way
to
continue
the
way
we
was
going
was
with
tax
dollars.
L
You
know
raising
property
tax,
but
I
think
the
final
solution
here
was
that
you're
gonna
have
eight
months
actually
to
look
at
it
and,
like
I,
said,
you're
gonna
have
three
months
to
figure
it
out,
instead
of
coming
in
two
weeks
before
budget
time
and
a
lot
of
us
being
disappointed
and
not
knowing
what's
going
on.
So
it
was
very
good.
I
was
very
glad.
Brownie
got
to
set
in
because
I
wish
all
commissioners
could
set
in
on
some
of
these
meetings,
and
sometimes
we
don't
tell
all
the
details
of
what
really
happened.
A
Yeah
I
would
just
add,
you
know
the
the
matching
requirements
on
the
the
state
pay
raises:
that's
a
big
driver
of
this
and
they
did
give
higher
raises.
Then
you
know
when
the
budget
request
came
in
during
our
regular
process.
We
anticipated
they
anticipated
funding
needing
more
funding
for
pay
raises,
but
the
pay
raises
actually
did
come
in
higher
than
what
they
forecast
yeah.
So
so,
in
some
ways
the
need
is
even
greater
than
what
we
all
knew
at
the
time
of
the
budget
process.
A
Some
things
have
some
things
came
in
a
little
bit
lower
like
the
the
non
certified
pay
changes,
we're
actually
coming
a
little
bit
lower
from
the
state,
but
then
also
you
know
the
County
Schools
are
that
more
the
biggest,
maybe
the
biggest
real
estate
owner
in
Buncombe
County,
and
we
all
know
that
Duke
has
raised
retail
utility
rates
on
all
their
electrical
customers
in
Buncombe
County.
So
for
us,
a
verse
family
that
might
be,
you
know,
10
or
10
or
20
bucks
a
month
for
the
County
Schools,
it's
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
every
month.
A
A
It's
really
the
legislative
budgeting
approval
process
that
creates
that
dynamic,
but
if
we
start
sooner,
hopefully
that
will
make
that
will
make
that
easier
going
forward.
So
I
thought
that
was
a
very
good
discussion
between
the
school
board
folks
and
in
our
side.
Any
other
questions
all
right.
Well,
we've
got
a
motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you.
All
for
being
with
us
this
evening
appreciate
appreciate
what
you
do.
A
E
Mr.
chairman
I've,
given
you
a
fairly
detailed
memo
on
this,
we've
been
working
with
our
folks
at
the
Sheriff's
Department
and
also
with
dr.
Baldwin
staff,
particularly
the
finance
director,
and
what
we've
got
is
they
have
an
opportunity
to
have
a
state
grant
of
333333
dollars
and
they
were
notified
of
that
on
August
21st,
and
then
they
notified
the
Sheriff's
Office.
E
However,
per
our
budget
office,
the
salary
and
fringe
benefits
for
an
officers
sixty
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
twenty
nine
dollars.
Buncombe
County
school
system
had
a
previous
grant
for
215
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
annually
for
the
past
five
years,
but
that's
now
expired.
So
what
they're
requesting
is
is
they
would
like
to
use
215
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
of
this
new
grant
to
offset
the
cost
of
existing
school
resource
officers.
That
leaves
117,000
$733
available
for
new
school
resource
officers,
and
the
school
system
would
like
to
add
six
additional
officers.
E
Buncombe
County
school
system
is
offering
in
a
renewal
of
our
annual
agreement
with
them
to
provide
a
hundred
and
eighty-five
thousand
nine
hundred
fifty
seven
dollars
more
than
the
three
hundred
and
forty
thousand
five
hundred
forty
two
dollars
they
currently
reimbursed
the
county.
So
the
117
thousand
733
is
the
amount
left
from
the
333333
dollar
grant
after
subtracting
the
two
hundred
fifteen
thousand
six
hundred
for
the
existing
employees
issue.
E
If
you
subtract,
the
state
grant
amount
of
117
thousand
seven
thirty-three
vcss
is
offering
to
increase
their
local
dollars
by
sixty
eight
thousand
two
hundred
twenty-four
dollars.
There
are
one-time
cost
of
a
vehicle
in
equipping
the
officer
as
well.
Those
costs
are
estimated
at
thirty,
three
thousand
and
nine
thousand
five
hundred
seventy
six
dollars
respectively.
E
Therefore,
the
one-time
cost
would
be
forty
two
thousand
five
hundred
and
seventy-six
dollars
per
officer.
So
when
you
do
that
the
personnel
expenses
for
six
officers
are
four
hundred
and
thirteen
thousand
five.
Seventy
for
the
one-time
expenses
are
two
hundred
and
fifty
five
thousand
four
hundred
and
fifty
six
dollars,
so
the
total
expense
for
the
first
year
would
be
six
hundred
and
sixty
nine
thousand.
E
So
we
can
cover
this
first
year,
2019
from
the
savings
on
the
work
day,
project
that
you
are
moving
to
contingency
and
did
did
do
that
tonight.
In
your
budget
amendment,
which
is
over
four
hundred
twenty
two
thousand
dollars,
then
we
can
take
the
rest
from
the
current
contingency,
so
we
can
have
that
covered
the
amount
needed
in
year
2
can
be
budgeted
in
fiscal
year
2020
as
a
matter
of
course.
I
do
need
to
point
out
that
this
grant
is
only
for
two
years.
E
So
in
future
years
we
would
not
have
the
333333
dollars
for
these
officers
and
the
other
four
we
currently
have.
However,
the
history
has
been
that
the
state
funds
these
if
the
program
is
well
run
so
I
just
want
to
caution
you
we
may
get
a
a
repeat
of
it
for
another
two
years.
We
may
not,
so
it's
just
a
contingency.
We
need
to
be
prepared
to
eat
if
that,
if
that's
what
happens
so.
A
E
A
E
Is
an
opportunity
to
obtain
six
additional
school
resource
officers
at
a
reduced
cost
to
the
county
of
the
forty
four
schools
in
the
Buncombe
County
school
system,
21
have
school
resource
officers,
the
high
schools
and
middle
schools.
Have
these
officers,
not
all
the
elementary
schools?
Do.
This
would
add
six
more
for
a
total
of
27
officers,
giving
us
significantly
better
response
to
any
public
safety
incident,
and
they
currently
put
these
in
all
of
their
districts.
I
believe
they're,
six
is
that
right,
dr.
E
Bolton,
and
so
obviously
what
he
would
do
is
put
these
in
more
elementary
schools.
That
would
give
them
up
among
the
six
districts
so
that,
if
we
do
have
an
incident,
our
response
time
would
still
be
better,
because
we
would
have
not
one
but
two
resource
officers
in
each
district
that,
if
it
happened
at
another
school,
could
immediately
respond
there,
as
well
as
any
deputies
that
are
on
patrol
that.
Would
you
know
that
would
get
there
as
well.
So.
E
I
recommend
that
you
proceed
with
this
grant
and
increase
funding
from
the
school
system.
If
you're
in
agreement
to
provide
this
funding,
the
school
system
can
accept
the
grant
and
the
county
staff
will
prepare
the
necessary
budget
amendment
for
your
next
meeting
and
have
an
amended
agreement
with
the
school
system
for
your
approval
as
well.
So
we
just
need
to
know
tonight
if
you
want
to
do
it,
we'll
take
care
of
all
the
paperwork
at
the
next
meeting.
I.
A
The
decision
were
made
to
not
expand
the
number
of
officers
but
other
or
maybe
by
fewer
officers,
maybe
even
three
and
set
of
six
or
four.
Instead
of
six
or
just
to
keep
the
current
staffing
levels,
would
we
receipt?
Would
the
schools
be
able
to
access
any
of
these
grant
funds
for
keeping
staffing
at
current
levels
or
increasing
by
a
different
number,
or
is
it
only?
Is
it
all
contingent
upon
six.
K
E
A
A
Okay,
just
looking
down
the
audience's,
are
we
all
on
the
same
page
with
that?
Okay,
all
right?
Well,
I,
just
I'll
just
make
a
couple
of
comments.
You
know
school
safety
is
critical,
I
mean
it's
nothing's
more
important,
but
this
is
also
a
big
financial
decision.
You
know,
because
and
I
think
that
I
mean
the
comment
I
would
make
would
be
I
think
we
really
need
to
be
doing
what
we
think
is
the
most
important
strategy
to
improve
school
safety.
A
We're
and
not
just
what
gets
a
grant
right
so
I
think
we
can't
let
short-term
grant
funding
Drive.
What
is
the
most
important
strategy
to
make
our
schools
safe,
not
to
say
they're,
getting
state
funding,
isn't
helpful,
I
mean.
Naturally
we
want
to.
We
always
encourage
all
of
our
staff
to
leverage
that
funding
wherever
we
can,
but
I
don't
want
it
to
be.
The
driver
I
want
the
best
strategy
to
be
the
driver
and
what
we
invest
in
you
know.
A
At
our
last
meeting,
we
had
a
great
discussion
about
how
we
get
the
communication
systems
in
the
schools,
the
way
that
they
should
be,
and
we've
supported,
that
that's
a
gonna
be
a
big
investment
in
and
I'm
all
for
it.
So
I
guess
just
for
myself
and
I'm
happy
to
learn
I'm
happy
to
hear
everyone's
thoughts
on
this
and
and
I'm,
certainly
not
don't,
have
a
position
against
it.
A
G
Education
I
appreciate
those
comments
shared,
be,
you
know,
really
easy
to
say
great,
more
school
resource
officers.
But
when
this
to
me
this,
the
conversation
shouldn't
end
at
that
and
we
shouldn't
pat
ourselves
on
the
back
and
say
great.
When
you
look
nationally
when
you
talk
to
teachers
locally,
browny
people
talk,
you
know:
teachers
talk
about
mental
health,
what
these
kids
are
coming
to
school,
with,
whether
it's
Asheville,
City,
Schools
or
Buncombe,
County
Schools,
so
to
me,
I
think
it's
incumbent
on
all
of
us
to
give
whatever
assistance.
G
We
need
mental
health,
and
you
know
you
know
in
a
perfect
world.
I
would,
like
you
know
the
SROs
to
be
at
those
schools
forming
bonds
with
the
kids,
so
that,
if
kids
are
really
problem,
they
have
enough
trust
to
go
to
those
SROs,
but
the
SROs
seem
to
be
really
thinly,
spread.
So
I
think
it's
important
to
you
know,
explore
all
options.
You
know
I,
don't
know.
If
the
schools
in
each
school
has
somebody
dealing
with
mental
health
issues,
it's
a
counselors
are
overwhelmed
with
that.
Those
are
questions.
G
I
have
and
that's
something
I'd
like
to
explore.
I
mean
that
when
we
look
at
nationally
the
horrific
school
shootings,
it's
a
it's
a
troubled
kid
and
I
and
I
know
in
the
past,
when
I've
spoken
to
a
sorrows,
you
know
when
they
have
the
time
and
they're
not
stretched
too
thin.
They
do
form
these
bonds
with
kids.
But
how
stretched
are
they
I.
K
Think
what
we
need
to
look
at
is
I
agree
with
the
mental
health
and
talking
to
people
in
the
schools,
but
I
also
realize
too
that
we've
got
to
deal
with
both
because
when
I
look
at
the
sorrows
and
I
think
of
my
grandson,
who
was
in
the
middle
school
here,
I'd
hate
for
something
that
happened
to
him
as
somebody
else's
kid,
and
we
can't
say
that
we
have
done
the
best
we
can
and
I
think
we
can't
have
in
the
days
environment
too.
Many
of
SROs
I
think
sure.
K
We've
got
to
look
at
the
budget
and
we've
got
to
I
agree
with
you.
There
be
careful
with
that,
make
sure
we
stay
within
it.
But
on
the
other
hand,
though,
security
and
safety,
and
when
we
look
at
what's
going
on
nationwide,
we
need
them,
but
I
think
at
some
point
with
the
schools
and
maybe
the
commissioners
with
may
heck
and
all
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
plan.
I
think
for
mental
health,
because
that
is
a
that's.
A
serious
issue
and
I'm
now
run
into
that
working
mentoring,
boys
and
the
schools.
I
agree.
K
But
I
really
think
that
when
we
start,
you
know
looking
at
f
sorrows,
we
need
to
understand
that
it's
a
need
form.
You
know
and
I
wish
we
could
put
one
in
every
school,
but
we
can't
we
know
we
can't
afford
that.
But
I
think
we
can
take
advantage
of
this
and
I.
Don't
think
it
would
be
a
waste
of
money.
You
know
in
doing
that,
but
I
still
agree
with
some
point
in
time.
We
need
to
look
at
mental
health
because
I
hear
that
from
everybody.
K
I
M
Probably
need
mrs.
Frisby
to
help
with
this
to
specific
that
grant
was
specific
to
school
source
offices,
so
those
positions
that
we
acquired
that
grant
was
written
written
to
increase
those
SROs
at
the
elementary
school
level.
You
may
recall,
as
a
commission,
that
my
initial
budget
presentation
included
three
what
we
refer
to
as
behavioral
health
specialists.
Two
of
those
would
be
true
specialists
working
directly
in
the
schools.
M
The
third
was
a
coordinators
position
due
to
the
budget
adjustment
that
was
made
to
address
the
fund
balance,
we
then
went
to
state
grants
and
one
of
those
grants
that
we
also
we
acquired,
provided
us
funding
for
those
two
behavioral
health
specialists
and
part
of
the
coordinators
position.
So
we
currently,
in
fact
we
just
spoke
about
this
this
afternoon
in
our
leadership
team
meeting.
We
currently
have
one
behavioral
specialist
mental
health
specialists
per
each
of
our
six
districts
and
they
are
embedded
in
the
schools,
and
then
we
have
a
coordinator
out
of
mr.
Thompson's
office.
M
Now
we
would
love
as
mr.,
as
commissioner
Whiteside
said,
we
would
love
to
have
a
behavior
specialist
in
every
school,
because
you've
heard
me
say
this
over
and
over
and
over
and
I'm
sure,
dr.
Patterson
would
be
would
say.
This
thing's
like
you're,
welcome,
come
here
and
say
that
behavioral
health
is
a
serious
issue
in
our
schools.
You've
recognized
it
as
a
serious
issue
in
this
community.
It's
one
of
your
strategic
priorities,
if
I'm
not
correct,
but
that
was
separate.
M
That
was
a
separate
grant
that
we
applied
for
and
received
school
resource
officers
strictly
for
the
additional
SROs
and
I
would
advocate
for
that,
because
we
currently
and
again
I'm
going
to
get
on
a
soapbox
I
think
this
county
should
be
very
proud
of
the
model
of
school
resource
officers.
That
program,
because
we
have
one
of
the
tops
in
the
state
and
we've
had
it.
For
years
we
were
one
of
the
first
to
play
school
resource
officers
in
our
schools.
They
are
proactive,
they
have
to
be
reactive
at
times,
but
primarily
they
are
proactively.
M
As
you
said,
Commissioner
white
size
estab
in
those
relationships.
We
found
that
to
be
very
beneficial
at
the
elementary
school
level.
Some
of
that
does
indirectly,
in
my
opinion,
tie
into
the
behavioral
health
because
of
those
relationships
that
are
established,
we
have
one
per
each
of
the
six
districts.
M
That's
the
model
that
we're
seeing
that's
been
successful
but
again,
I,
understand,
chairman
Newman
I
understand
your
concern,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
if
you
go
out
into
our
schools
and
I'll
talk
with
people
inside
those
schools,
they
will
tell
you
that
those
resources
are
extremely
valuable.
Thank.
I
You
so
much
if
I
could
follow
up
and
just
put
in
a
request.
Knit
no
timetable
on
this,
but
I
know
you
all
think
all
every
day
about
school
safety
and
it's
been
coming
up
at
our
last
couple
meetings,
sort
of
in
piecemeal
issues.
Might
there
be
opportunity
to
get
a
more
comprehensive
briefing
or
update
about
that
so
that
we
could
think
about
ways
to
effectively
partner
with
you
all
as
I
think
as
proactively
as
possible
and
in
a
way
that
addresses
sort
of
the
holistic
nature
of
it.
I
M
Be
more
than
happy
and
dr.
Patterson
I
think
you,
you
would
join
us
that
we
would
do
a
joint
Buncombe,
County,
Asheville,
City
presentation,
work
session.
I
can
talk
to
manager
would
about
setting
it
up
would
be
more
than
happy
to
come
in
and
talk
about
all
the
aspects
and
components
of
school
safety.
L
L
C
I
want
to
just
comment
on
you
know.
We
can't
we
can't
fix
everything
tonight.
What's
on
our
plate
is
a
is
a
grant
that
the
school's
applied
for,
and
the
state
awarded
that
grant
to
you
and
we
have
the
opportunity
to
add
the
SROs
which
I,
which
was
I,
think
it's
probably
coming
to
every
commissioners,
mind
SROs
safety.
Do
we
have
enough?
C
There
I
did
have
a
have
a
question
on
how
the
school
arrived
at.
What
you
would
participate
in,
which
I
think
was
68
thousand,
was
at
just
an
amount
you
had,
or
let's
see
it
says,
if
you
subtract
state
grant,
B
CSS
is
offering
to
increase.
There
are
local
dollars
by
68
through
24,
so
y'all
are
contributing.
Some
I
just
wanted
to
see
how
you
arrived
at
that
number,
as
opposed
to
a
number
a
lot
smaller
or
larger.
C
J
C
K
H
All
this
is
six
years
ago,
when
I
could
become
a
county.
Commissioner,
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
this
and
sheriff
and
city
and
the
mayor
and
all
those
far
as
County
Commission.
We
all
had
a
meeting
and
there's
still
a
way
in
doing
this
and
making
this
work
there's
still
another
way
to
help
help
it.
You
have
officers,
go
out
in
the
mornings
and
if
they
go
have
a
cup
of
coffee
somewhere
to
a
convenience,
store
and
they're
doing
their
paperwork
in
their
car.
H
If
they
pull
into
that
parking
lot,
the
tech
school,
that's
a
that's
an
officer's
car
and
if
they
have
a
closet,
they
can
go
into
inside
in
there
just
to
do
some
paperwork
or
even
after
I
brought
that
forward
van
Duncan
said
he
went
back
and
told
his
people,
if
you
have
a
child
in
that
school,
go
have
lunch
with
them.
So
if
our
officers
can
you
know,
do
what
we're
doing
and
I
agree,
but
we
could
still
can
have
more
there
if
we
can
add
them
to
the
picture.
H
You
got
two
or
if
there's
a
school
that
don't
have
one
that
you're
talking
about,
then
you
have
that
one
officer
been
able
to
go
in
and
talk
to
him
so
spending
money
in
this
way
and
I
think
the
deputies,
the
ones
that's
in
this
room
and
other
ones
and
the
ones
that's
coming
forward
and
search.
That's
coming
forward
that
utilize,
what
we're
doing
and
with
your
grant,
that
we
see
and
try
to
make
it
work
so
that
we
have
more
officers
involved
in
it.
For
us,
just
just
officers
are
not
there
all
the
time.
H
A
A
A
A
M
Believe
the
best
way
for
me
to
answer
that
question
is
when
we
apply
for
the
grant.
The
grant
is
very
specific
in
terms
of
determining
what
the
status
current
status
is,
in
other
words,
how
many
SRO
do
you
have
currently
in
your
school
system?
Where
are
they
located?
What
are
their
responsibilities,
so
this
particular
grant
was
written
again
with
the
supposition
that
we
were
going
to
be
adding
additional
SROs
to
the
elementary
school
level.
M
A
So
so,
just
one
observation
I
want
to
make
and
I
know
these
grant
programs
can
change
over
time,
but
you
know
the
idea
that
we're
just
going
to
get
funding
in
the
future
to
renew
this.
That's
that
doesn't
sound
like
that's
how
it's
working
right
look
every
time
we
commit
to
expand
the
staffing
it's
temporary
and
in
and
there's
not
recurring
funding
to
support
those
staff
in
the
future
so
and
look
again,
I
mean
I'd
love
to
have
a
person
at
every
every
school
in
the
county.
A
But
when
we
really
think
about
the
you
know,
millions
of
dollars
that
would
take
I
mean
I.
Think
if
you
went
out-
and
you
asked
you
know-
people
in
the
school
system,
if
you
had
these
millions
of
additional
dollars
to
invest,
is
that
the
highest
priority
I
bet
you'd
get
a
lot
of
other
ideas.
I
would
come
in
from
teachers
and
principals
and
and
and
and
leadership
for
how
to
how
to
invest
that.
So
it
doesn't
sound
like
there's
much
prospects
that
this
is
going
to
be
picked
up
by
grant
funding
in
the
future.
A
A
Funding
for
these
positions
that
will
all
be
picked
up
by
the
county
in
the
future,
which,
again
to
me
just
goes
back
to
making
sure
that
we're
making
the
most
important
investment
and-
and
this
this
grant
funding
in
the
big
scheme
of
things,
is
a
tiny
percentage
of
the
funding
that
will
be
available
to
fund
these
and
staff
these
positions.
So
we
should
not
be
distracted
by
it.
E
L
A
C
Tonight,
well,
for
five
years,
you've
received
200
you've
received
200
$15,000
for
five
years
right.
Y'all
received
200
$15,000
for
five
years.
As
part
is
this
part
of
a
state
grant
for
SROs
and
school
safety
is
a
is
that
right?
Okay,
so
that's
expired.
So
what
okay
so
what's
happening
is
the
state
is
replacing
that
grant
with
this
grant.
That's
what
they're
doing
okay
now
I
think
that
the
Chairman's
point
is
is
is
well
made
and
that
you
know
none
of
us
have
a
guarantee
of
tomorrow
or
next
year.
A
Just
become
part
of
the
base
budget,
they
will
hire
these
folks
that
will
become
part
of
the
schools
base
budget.
It
will
be
half
a
million
dollars
higher
unless
you
plan
on
you
know,
I
mean
we're
gonna
keep
we're
not
gonna
only
hire
these
people
for
a
year.
This
is
gonna,
be
their
job.
They're
gonna.
G
G
C
So
you
know,
if
all
due
respect
to
Commissioner
frost
I'll,
let
the
sheriff
make
that
decision.
My
decision
I
have
to
make
is
whether
I'm
willing
to
vote
to
fund
this
that
this
evening
and
we're
not
100%
sure
that,
two
years
from
now
that
this
will
even
be
written
the
same,
we
don't
have
that
guarantee.
However,
I
believe
that
the
SR
here's,
the
I,
believe
the
SR
program
works
every
school
that
I've
been
into
it
works
every
student
that
I've
talked
to
about
an
SRO.
It
works,
am
I
willing
to
fund
six
more
SROs.
C
Yes,
I,
don't
disagree
with
all
the
points
that's
been
been
made
tonight,
but
I
am
I,
am
willing
to
take
utilize
this
grant
and
and
risk
the
future
funding
of
it,
because
it's
a
good
program,
not
discounting
in
any
other
programs,
been
mentioned.
This
is
a
great
program
and
it
it
does
more
than
protect.
The
kids
does
a
lot
more
than
protect
the
kids.
It
strengthens
the
kids
it
gives
them
character,
gives
them
self-esteem
in
difficult
communities.
It
encourages
them
to
go
home,
be
better
at
what
they
do.
I
mean
it.
I
Another
quick
question
is
Aris
just
playing
out
different
scenarios
as
we're
kind
of
talking
this
through.
Is
there
a
scenario
where
y'all
would
accept
the
two
hundred
fifteen
thousand
six
hundred
and
say
we
would
like
to
accept
that
portion
of
the
grant
to
continue
existing
operations,
but
not
accept
the
matching
requirement.
M
A
A
So
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
vote
against
this,
but
I
I.
Do
you
know
we
don't
have
unlimited
resources
and
I
do
think
that
to
some
extent
these
these
issues
around
how
we
address
safety,
how
we
address
mental
health
issues
they
are.
We
have
to
think
about
the
funds
we
have
to
dedicate
towards
this.
So
I
would
not
be
I'm
not
prepared
to
support
this
tonight.
Cuz
I,
don't
think
I
mean
I.
A
A
We
need
I,
think
we
need
a
lot
more
investment
in
mental
health
and
I'd
before
we
make
would
again
that
to
me,
I
see
as
a
recurring
significant
commitment
I'd
like
to
see
this
other
ideas
in
in
and
if
we
can
fund
it
out,
if
we
decide
to
commit
funding
to
all
of
it
great,
but
before
we
just
only
focus
on
that.
This
piece
I'd
like
to
see
what
else
the
schools
would
like
to
do
in
those
areas
because
I
just
again
I
just
think
it's
kind
of
being
driven
by
the
grant
and
not
by.
A
H
They
yeah
we
have
to
step
up
the
first
year.
Basically,
you
know:
if
we
get
these
many
officers,
then
you
have
to
whether,
though
vehicles
or
whatever
you
got
to
do
that,
plus
the
uniforms
plus
the
insurance
plus
all
just
like
George,
basically
spoke
over
there
is
it's
going
to
be
six
hundred
seven
thousand
the
first
year.
Then
it
falls
back
a
little
bit.
You
know,
I,
don't
agree
with
browning
a
lot,
but.
G
G
H
It
may
it
would
make
more
sense
to
me
to
look
at
it.
You
know
and
I'd
like
to
know
the
date
that
it
needs
to
be
turned
in
by
personally.
I
would
like
to
table
this
this
evening,
so
that
we
can
look
at
it
a
little
better
with
broader
bands
honor,
you
know
to
look
at
I,
don't
know
how
the
rest
of
them
would
feel
it's
it's
good
that
we
have
them,
but
it
goes
back.
H
The
same
thing
it's
occurring
and
then
we
just
said
tonight:
we
we
held
a
million
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
schools,
and
now
we
give
it
to
you
tonight
well
that
that
makes
our
budget
work
well,
everything
that
we
add
any
more
to
it.
That
just
says
tells
the
taxpayers
and
I'll
have
kids
and
I'd
mental
health.
I
have
no
problem
with
that,
but
there's
other
areas
we
may
have
to
look
at
it,
cutting
to
make
sure
this
would
work,
but
the
fact
is
I.
H
You
know
it's
like
I
said:
send
officers
to
the
schools
to
go
eat
with
their
kids
or
do
whatever
you
need
to
do
to
a
point.
Does
it
cost
us
that
much
money
to
do
that,
but
I
remember
six
years
ago
now,
once
we
added
all
the
officers
to
the
schools,
it
was
costing
us
over
a
meet.
Well,
the
feds
gave
us
a
bunch
of
money.
Then
it
went
away
so
now
we're
millions
of
dollars
for
the
resource
officers.
So,
commissioner,.
L
Yeah,
just
one
thing,
I
think
Commissioner
fryers
not
looking
at
is
having
lunch
with
or
parking
outside
of
school
is
not
a
resource
officer.
It
is
exactly
what
Commissioner
Whiteside
saying
it's
a
relationship
they
build
inside
on
a
daily
basis.
So
I
just
disagree
with
you
all
that
mic
no
problem.
Alright,.
M
So
there's
the
name-
yes
I
just
add
one
one
thing
to
talk
to
miss
frisbee,
which
that
grant
we
actually
requested.
23
additional
s
arose.
Our
intent
was
to
put
an
SRO
in
every
school
and
we
did
that
in
in
coordination
with
the
Sheriff's
Department.
In
all
honesty,
when
sheriff
Duncan
and
I
spoke,
we
weren't
aware
we
were
going
back
through
this
process
reality
of
it
is
we
applied
for
that
grant
and
we
did
receive
funding
for
six
additional
resource
officers.
M
So
if
that
support
is
not
is
not
a
pre
and
again
that's
I'm,
not
pressuring
whatsoever,
but
I'm.
Just
just
saying
the
fact
is.
If
that
support
is
not
from
the
Commission,
then
we
would
be
reimbursing
that
grant
funding
back
to
the
state
because
it
was
open
to
all
school
systems
across
North
Carolina.
G
M
A
That
is
that
tonight,
or
is
it
just
what
is
the
day?
So
we
don't
want
to
I.
Certainly
don't
want
us
to
miss
a
deadline
whereby
you
would
lose
the
grant
funding
without
us
making
a
decision,
but
if
we
have
a
little
time
I
think
some
of
us
would
like
to
just.
You
know
we'd
like
to
look
at
this
a
little
bit
longer
and
I
can
get
that
information.
M
H
A
N
C
So
I'm
not
willing
to
risk
putting
it
off,
though
I
you
know,
I
respect
the
sentiment
of
some
of
the
commissioners.
That's
wanting
to
do
that!
I'm,
not
willing
I'm,
not
willing
tonight,
because
you
know
my
concern
would
be.
Is
that
the
is
that
you
would
lose
a
grant?
And
then
then
we
decide
that
we
want
to
put
the
a
SROs
in
there
and
it
cost
us
more
money.
C
So
because
we've
discussed
putting
more
SROs
in
the
schools
in
the
elementary
schools
and
I
think
the
sentiment
of
the
board
is
to
I,
don't
think
they're
against
that.
You
know:
I'm,
not
I,
don't
think
I'm
think
I'm
I'm
hearing
it
I
think
they're
concerned
about
about
the
funding
but
I'm
concerned
about
putting
it
off
I'm,
not
willing
to
do
that,
because
money
goes
way
very
quickly.
I
mean
money.
C
C
C
B
C
I,
don't
and
I'm,
not
I'm
I
don't
have
I,
don't
have
a
problem
supporting
the
funding
of
additional
SROs
because
I
believe
they're,
effective
and
particularly
at
the
elementary
school
level.
I
think
the
model
in
the
past
has
been
to
put
them
at
the
high
school
and
middle
school
level
and
I
think
now
with
their.
C
L
M
L
A
L
H
A
O
To
speak
to
the
question
of
mental
health
in
Buncombe
County
Schools,
because
I
am
very
proud
of
all
the
hard
work
that
we
are.
We
have
been
doing
for
years.
We've
gotten
federal
funds
for
our
compassionate
schools
approach,
which
is
very
much
based
in
research
based
mental
health
services
and
looking
at
trauma-informed
schools
and-
and
we
are
doctor
Baldwin's
not
going
to
brag
on
the
school
system
in
the
way
that
a
board
member
is
going
to.
But
dr.
David
Thompson,
who
leaves
leads.
O
Our
student
services
department
is
a
leader
in
the
state
and
we
are
looked
to
in
Buncombe
County
across
the
state
in
terms
of
our
model
of
what
we're
doing
with
a
compassionate
schools
model
and
mental
health
services.
So
I
do
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
share
more
of
that
information
with
you
so
that
you
can.
O
But
just
because
we
haven't
come
to
you
for
money
to
address
mental
health
doesn't
mean
that
we
are
not
doing
everything
we
possibly
can
and
there's
more
always
to
be
done
and
I
hope
that
we
can
do
more
in
partnership.
But
I
just
want
to
reassure
you
again
that
that
the
mental
and
behavioral
health
aspect
of
our
work
is
a
very
high
priority
in
Macomb
County
schools
and
we
are
looked
to
as
a
model
in
that
area.
Geez.
O
A
All
right,
if
I
and
if
we
did
not
take
public
comment
on
that
motion,
I
apologize
for
that
is
there
anybody
else
who
would
like
to
comment
on
this
topic?
We've
already
voted,
but
I
mean
it's.
This
is
a
an
important
issue
and
one
that
I
know
that
we'll
be
talking
about
in
the
future,
so
I
appreciate
I
know
we
all
appreciate
public
input
on
this
issue
all
right.
A
G
A
There
a
second
for
lowering
Macan.
Second,
all
right,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
all
opposed
all
right.
We
now
come
to
public
comments.
The
time
limit
for
individual
comment
to
the
board
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires,
you
can
leave
any
question
along
with
your
name
and
phone
number
with
the
county
manager
board.
Members
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
matters
during
public
comment.
A
This
is
the
public's
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
board
and
the
the
board
reserves
the
right
to
deny
public
address
on
subjects
that
have
been
previously
presented
to
the
board
during
the
same
meeting
where
we've
already
had
public
comment
on
that
issue.
So
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
comment
please
come
on
up
and
tell
us
your
name
and
where
you
live.
N
Thank
you,
chairman
Thank
You,
commissioners.
For
those
Tom,
my
name
is
Tom
Benson
I
brought
come
from
Lincoln
County
Commissioner,
Whitesides
I,
you
know
understand
completely
where
you're
going.
Where
you
talk
about.
Having
that
accountability,
transparency,
you
spoke
quite
a
bit
about
that.
I.
Think
all
of
us
up
here
have
I
know.
I
have
but
I
do
question.
N
As
we
sit
out
here
and
we
listen
week
after
week
month
after
month
about
transparency,
then
we
find
out
that
the
very
folks
that
speak
about
transparency
are
guilty
of
not
doing
it
themselves,
and
you
know
we
have
things
going
on
in
this
county
that
need
to
be
found
out.
We
have
some
things,
I,
don't
know,
say
money
going
to
a
Equestrian,
Center
or
maybe
Polk
County,
or
maybe
some
folks
using
their
offices
for
County
offices
for
private.
You
know
personal
gain
or
whatever.
That
might
be.
We
have
a
lot
of
things.
N
We
have
to
answer
a
lot
of
questions
that
have
to
be
answered,
but
you
know:
what's
it
gonna
take
for
this
actual
transparency
to
happen.
Everyone
that's
preaching
about
transparency,
but
we're
not
really
getting
it
that
we
get.
We
can
talk
about
transparency
all
we
want
to,
but
until
we
get
some
people
in
office,
some
people
in
the
leadership-
rather
it's
at
the
top
level
or
if
it's
in
the
mid-level,
wherever
it's
at
we're,
never
gonna,
see
the
trust.
Nobody
in
the
community
is
going
to
trust
anybody
until
we
actually
start
getting
this.
N
The
very
people
that
we
put
in
place
to
trust
we've
got
some
great
folks
running
for
office.
That
I
believe
we
have
one
here
in
the
room
today
that
I
think
is
going
to
you'd
be
really
good.
Transparents
gonna
do
a
lot
of
good
things
for
the
county,
but
we
really
have
to
step
back
and
take
a
look.
This
audit
that
you're
talking
about
the
forensic
audit,
who's
gonna
set
the
parameters
of
it.