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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (July 10, 2018)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners from July 10, 2018. To view the agenda or future meeting agendas, please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
A
We've
all
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
some
of
the
some
of
Buncombe
County
public
safety
officers
and
staff
who
play
this
role
in
our
community.
We've
all
benefited
in
many
ways
from
their
commitment
to
safety
of
our
kids
and
families
at
our
schools
and
our
homes
and
places
of
work.
So
before
we
start
this
meeting
this
evening,
let's
take
a
moment
of
silence
to
give
thanks
for
the
people
who,
whose
purpose
is
to
keep
us
safe.
Please
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence.
A
B
I
say
one
more
thing
in
this:
yes,
we
look
in
the
room
and
there's
been
a
gentleman.
It
stands
back
in
the
corner,
his
name's
Jerry
rest.
He
always
speaks
his
wife.
She
went
in
for
a
bypass
surgery.
Then
they
found
out
she's
got
cancer,
so
I
think
her
prayers
need
to
go
out
for
some
local
with
him
and
his
family
at
the
present
time.
So
that's
one
thing:
I'd
asked
the
people
to
do
is
think
about
Jerry
Rice
and
his.
A
Okay.
Before
we
start
the
meeting
I
want
to
make
a
brief
announcement
that
parking,
validation
and
bus
passes
are
available
for
all
members
of
the
public
who
are
attending
County
Commission
meetings
and
workshops.
So
anyone
who
is
at
this
meeting
or
other
meetings
in
the
county
facilities
can
pick
up
a
bus
pass
or
a
parking
pass
from
our
staff
on
your
way
out.
It's
valid
only
for
the
meeting
today,
but
we
want
to
make
it
easy
for
folks
to
attend
our
meeting.
A
So
please
feel
free
to
use
that
if
you
use
one
of
our
parking
facilities
or
the
transit
system,
I
want
to
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
In
accordance
with
a
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
county
commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
A
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda?
The
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board.
Member
also
does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
today,
seeing
none
all
board
members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
all
matters
voted
on
by
the
board
at
the
meeting
this
evening.
A
C
A
A
D
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
commissioners,
Dane
will
be
reporting
on
the
engineering
firm
later
in
the
in
the
item
day.
Thank
you
tonight
you
are
going
to
be
hearing
from
waste
Pro
and
waste
Pro
is
proposing
a
an
increase
in
the
monthly
collection
rate
for
collection
of
solid
waste
and
recyclables
in
the
unincorporated
areas
of
Buncombe
County.
Just
to
give
you
before
they
come
to
speak.
I
just
want
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
how
that
process
works
and
how
we
came
to
be
here
tonight.
D
D
At
that
time,
the
rate
set
by
the
Commission
at
that
time
was
14
dollars
and
20
cents
per
month,
and
that
was
for
anyone
in
the
unincorporated
areas
that
chose
to
use
waste
Pro.
That
would
be
the
rate
that
they
paid
two
years
about
two
and
a
half
years
later,
waste
Pro
came
back
to
the
Commission
and
asked
for
an
increase,
and
at
that
time
the
Commission
approved
rate
of
fourteen
dollars
and
seventy
seven
cents
per
month.
That
rate
has
been
in
effect
since
July
1
of
2012.
D
The
way
the
process
works
in
when
waste
Pro
wishes
to
seek
any
increase.
Is
they
have
several
ways
that
that
can
that
can
happen?
One
is
if
there
has
been
an
increase
in
the
tipping
fees
for
every
dollar
increase
in
tipping
fees,
they
can
increase
their
monthly
rate
by
10
percent
up
to
10%
of
that
tipping
fee.
Without
coming
back
to
the
board,
we
recently
enacted
or
August
first
will
enact
a
tipping
fee
increase
of
75
cents
per
ton
in
August
that
does
not
meet
the
dollar
threshold.
D
D
If
that
Consumer
Price
Index
were
applied
to
the
rate
of
1477,
the
rate
would
be
16
dollars
and
six
cents
per
month.
That's
a
one
dollar
29
cent
increase
per
month
as
you'll
hear
tonight.
Waste
Pro
is
asking
for
a
sixteen
point:
seven
six
percent
increase
to
from
fourteen
77242
seventeen
dollars
and
approximately
twenty-five
cents.
D
Per
month
tonight,
you'll
hear
first
from
Bob
Christie,
who
is
a
representative
of
waste
Pro
to
give
you
some
information,
additional
information
and
then
you'll
hear
from
Robert
Allen,
who
is
the
director
of
government
relations
for
waste
Pro
after
he
is
presenting,
then
you'll
be.
Can
you'll
conduct
a
public
hearing
where
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
hear
feedback
from
the
community
and
then
certainly
ask
any
questions
that
you
may
have
as
well
and
per
ordinance?
D
D
F
Good
evening,
I'm
bob
christie
resident
of
Fairview,
North,
Carolina
and
Jim
took
2/3
of
what
I
was
going
to
say.
I'll,
be
very
brief.
I
know
this
sounds
like
a
large
increase,
but
if
you
will
look
at
someone
taking
their
trash
to
the
transfer
station,
I
talked
to
a
former
supervisor
at
the
transfer
station.
He
said
at
a
minimum.
People
would
bring
two
bags
of
trash
per
week
to
the
transfer
station.
F
Currently,
the
disposal
rate
is
$2
per
bag.
There
are
four
point
three
to
five
weeks
in
a
month
when
you
calculate
it
out
that
comes
to
17
dollars
and
38
cents
a
month
to
take
your
trash
to
the
transfer
station
at
two
bags
a
week.
We
are
asking
for
less
than
that
and
most
of
that,
or
a
lot
of
that
is
because
of
the
recycle
situation
that
mr.
Allen
will
go
over
and
deal
with.
Like
I
said,
Jim
took
80%
of
what
I
was
going
to
say.
So.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
H
F
I
Well,
good
evening,
chairman
commissioners,
managers,
I
guess
it
was
saying
staff
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
address
you.
My
name
is
Robert
Allen
and
I
reside
in
Charlotte.
Now
that
does
not
mean
I'm
flatlander.
Okay,
not
at
all
I,
grew
up
in
the
Blue
Ridge,
but
up
in
Virginia.
So
it
could
you
go
ahead
and
queue
up
the
there.
You
go
thanks
a
lot.
I
I
One
of
the
the
biggest
point
I
would
want
to
point
out
is
that
waste
Pro
is
really
more
of
a
diverging
company,
as
opposed
to
a
traditional
hauler.
We
like
to
keep
it
out
of
the
hole,
if
at
all
possible,
which
is
why
this
recycling
situation
is,
you
know,
really
hit
us
close
to
home,
but
it
our
commitment
to
Buncombe
County
is.
Is
there
we
watch
this
thing
grow
and
I
mean
to
date,
I
guess
we
put
somewhere
close
to
it.
G
I
Trucks
that
we
used
to
purchase
you
know
for
285,000
are
now
in
the
$400,000
range.
You
know
that
we're
having
to
deal
with
that.
Obviously
recycling
and
solid
waste
disposal
has
gone
up
and
tell
me
obviously
that
the
increase,
but
keep
in
mind
that
that
total
number
is
recycling
tipping
fee,
that
just
that
just
keeps
us
hell
hole.
You
know
and
the
same
thing
will
apply
for
the
MSW,
the
solid
waste
tipping
fee
and
we're
just
trying
to
cover
the
cost
on
that.
I
So
I'm
a
lot
of
the
communities
that
we've
dealt
with
and
you'll
see
some
of
these.
That
recycling
is
still
a
good
idea.
Well,
you
know:
you've
got
some
of
the
headlines
that
I
provided
to
you
guys
China
doesn't
want
your
trash
USNews
recyclables
in
Seattle
or
being
landfill
due
to
China
restrictions.
I
Recycling
fallout
uncertain
as
tariff
battle
continues.
China
just
handed
the
world
a
hundred
and
eleven
million
ton
trash
problem.
I
was
out
of
Bloomberg
recently
you
know
well.
Is
it
still
a
good
idea?
It
is
it's
our
responsibility
to
do
that.
I
believe
that
we've
we've
spent
a
huge
amount
of
time
and
money
and
resources
to
educate
two
or
three
generations,
and
unfortunately
part
of
it
is
that
if
you,
if
you
look
over
here
on
the
on
the
Left,
where
you
see
reuse,
we
reduce
recycle.
We're
really
good
on
the
recycle.
I
So
I'll
refer
to
it,
use
it
well,
the
FCA
that
you
had
to
file
every
single
year,
where
you're
your
full
cost
accounting
report
that
you
submit
in
there
drove
us
as
municipalities
toward
participation.
You
know
that
they
were
driving
that
well.
Contamination
is
what's
really
killing
us
on
a
lot
of
this
stuff,
so
that
would
be
an
area
where
the
educational
process
we
bring
them
in
and
the
state
has
some
plug
and
play,
and
we
have
some
plug
and
play
areas
that
we
can.
I
That
will
help
with
that
and
it's
a
whole
kit
on
how
to
educate
your
population
and
your
kids
on
reducing
contamination,
but
that
was
pretty
much
the
highlights
of
what
I
wanted
to
hit
you
guys
with
we're
committed.
We
want
to
be
here
and
rather
than
diving
through
all
of
the
even
all
the
information
is
there
and
respectfully
request
that
we
go
ahead
and
be
able
to
do
that
increase.
Thank
you.
A
A
Any
comments
or
questions
at
this
time,
all
right.
Let's
going
to
have
the
public
hearing,
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
at
524
and
any
members
of
the
public.
You
would
like
to
comment
on
the
proposed
rate
adjustments
with
the
waste
probe
contract
or
welcome
now
all
right,
seeing
none
will
close
public
hearing
at
526
and
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
Commission
for
further
discussion
or
questions.
H
H
H
H
Certainly
those
things
you
know
can
happen,
you
know
normally
they
would
probably
happen
when
the
weather
is
just
tough
up
here.
You
know,
I
think
that
that's
probably
more
acceptable
from
a
consumer
standpoint.
Then
you
know
then,
this
time
of
year,
so
I
just
like
to
hear
your
discussion
on
service
what
you're
doing
and
how
that
affects
your
cost.
I
understand
that
that
you
know
what
I
understand
the
reasonable
increases
are
expected.
H
I
think
the
public
expects
that
you
know
and
I
think
that
the
model
is
a
little
bit
skewed
and
I
may
have
a
question
for
our
interim
manager.
On
that.
Maybe
look
you
know.
How
can
we
look
at
the
model
for
it
to
better
work,
for
you
guys
as
well,
as
is
the
consumer,
but
could
you
talk?
Could
you
talk
about
that
and
the
service
side
of
it?
What's
going
on
how
that
has
affected?
You
know
you
guys
and-
and
you
know
what
your,
what
just
some
thoughts
on
that,
if
you
would.
I
Well,
it's
a
people,
business
and
it
sounds
really
simple
that
you
drive
around
pick
it
up
and
take
it
away.
You
know,
and
unfortunately,
sometimes
we'll
run
into
situations
to
where
one
it
could
be
a
new
driver
or
it
could
be
I
mean
I
know
nobody
ever
puts
their
garbage
out
late.
We
just
miss
it.
You
know,
and
that
happens.
I
But
you
know
what
we
do
when
that
happens,
something
because
there's
cameras
on
a
lot
of
our
trucks.
You
know
doing
a
360
and
what
you
do
is
you
go
out
and
pick
it
up.
You
know
whether
you
run
a
pup
truck
out
or
we
have
a
supervisor
come
out
and
do
it
only
the
whole
idea
is
to
respond
and
get
it
get
it
up
off
the
ground.
It
doesn't
matter,
you
know
whose
fault
it
is
you
just
get
it
but
yeah.
I
They
are
it
and
every
now
and
then
we'll
have
a
substitute
driver
that
will
come
in
not
familiar
necessarily
with
with
with
the
area
and,
of
course,
you've
got.
We
tried
to
keep
our
guys
doing
the
same
routes
all
the
time
to
where
they
they
know
them
inside
and
out
and
haven't
grown
up
in
the
area
very
similar
to
this
it's
real
easy
to
miss
a
goat
trail.
You
know
I
mean
some
of
these
areas.
I
It's
really
tough
to
get
up
cut
it
up
in
there
and
they'll
bite
they'll
be
buying
before
they
they
can't,
but
are
there
gonna
be
misses
absolutely
you
know,
but
they
the
whole
idea
is
to
respond
quickly,
get
out
there
and
get
it
get
it
out.
Of
course,
don't
we've
got
the
bear
issues,
so
you
want
it
gone
as
quickly
as
possible
and
respond
so.
H
Did
don't
put
GPS
on
your
on
your
trucks
or
a
handheld
GPS
Cousineau?
Originally,
when
you
and
of
course,
it's
a
whole
lot
better
than
when
we
had
you
know
we
had
a
real
difficult
time
with
service
and
it
was
because
of
you
know,
new
hires
and
you
know
hadn't
really
got
your
routes
down
and
I.
Don't
think
that's!
What's
going
on
now
matter
of
fact,
when
I
say
your
your
your
workers
out
I've
not
seen
a
worker
that
wasn't
going,
you
know
what
wasn't
wide
open
working
hard.
H
F
H
I
You
we're
constantly
retooling
the
fleet,
I
mean
if
you
look
at
what
we
started
out
with
and
as
you
start
recognizing
the
challenges
whatever,
which
is
what
the
pup
cooks
came
from.
You
know,
and
because
you
coming
it's
it's
about
getting
it
I
mean
it's.
You
can
only
get
into
landfill
so
early
and
get
there
so
late.
So
you
know
youth,
you
they've
got
to
hit
it
and
get
it.
I
F
When
you
see
these
guys
out
here,
working
sometimes
at
7:00
at
night
and
I
mean
they
run
to
the
thing
and
throw
it
in
there
as
fast
as
I,
can
it's
a
it's
a
tough
job?
It
really
is
and
try
to
give
them
a
good
living
wage
and
which
to
to
live
on.
But
it's
it's
hard
to
find
people
to
to
do
that
at
all
times,
particularly
the
drivers
I
wanted.
E
To
correct
my
math,
the
increase
would
be
twenty
nine
dollars
and
seventy
cents
for
a
year
and
not
$36,
so
twenty
nine,
seventy,
so
I'm
a
commercial
customer,
and
there
there
were
times
maybe
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
It
was
a
little
bit
rough.
But
since
then
you
all
have
been
my
personal
experience
has
been
awesome
and
I
rarely
get
a
complaint
now
and
we
do
live
in
a
challenging
area
and
the
Bears
don't
help
the
situation.
E
H
J
H
All
understand
that
because
they
they
didn't
get
their
trash
picked
up,
but
you
know
it
had.
It
has
dramatically
improved
and
I.
Don't
know
what
you
know
what's
acceptable
or
not,
but
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that
the
people
that
you
have
working
for
you,
you
know
are
very
are
amazing.
The
other
question
I
have
is:
is
how
do
you?
How
do
you
rates
now
compared
to
other
carriers?
I
mean
you
told
me,
Henderson
County,
having
information
on
how
you
could
everybody
else?
You
know
when
we're
looking
at
these
rates.
H
E
F
In
in
2009,
because
they
were
more
familiar
with
the
territory
than
waist
pro
was
at
the
time
and
after
waist
pro
got
this
contract.
One
of
the
VP's
came
up
from
Florida
I
took
him
out
to
broad
river,
and
he
couldn't
believe
that
the
trucks
were
going
up
there,
but
I
said
they're
going
up
there
and
they
will
go
up
there,
even
if
it's
just
for
one
customer,
you
have
to
do
it
so.
B
F
H
F
Also
in
the
franchise
agreement,
it
talks
about
the
pick
up
being
where
most
of
the
mailboxes
are.
Mr.
Fryar,
your
member
of
Fairview
Forest
up
at
the
end
of
Wright's
Cove,
Road
development
that
goes
up
the
side
of
the
mountain.
All
the
mailboxes
are
down
below.
Mailman
does
not
go
up
there.
The
trash
truck
goes
up
there
and
picks
up
all
that
stuff,
and
it's
some.
G
B
F
F
I
You
know
you're
just
done
this
provision
is
that
you
charge
for
it.
You
know,
and
then
so,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
areas
like
and
when
you
start
getting
into
the
CPI,
which
is
really
a
business
acronym
for
a
cola
cost-of-living
allowance,
it's
pretty
much
the
same
ideas
to
keep
an
in
pace
with.
What's
going
on,
but
there's
a
lot
of
areas
in
there
that
I
would
like
to
revisit.
You
know
and
I
mean
for
future
development,
because
we're
you're
looking
at
something
in
what
the
next
year,
so
we're
gonna,
have
to
revisit
it
anyway.
I
Can
put
you
I
can
pull
that
up
for
you.
What
we're
noticing
too,
though,
is
just
like
anything
else:
supply
and
demand,
and
the
man
here
I
mean
we
need
them.
I
mean
right
now
send
them.
You
know
I'm
looking
for
CDL
drivers,
it
can
be
challenging
in
areas
like
Charlotte,
not
not
as
much.
You
know,
but
tell
me.
The
demand
is
still
there,
but
I
mean.
But
what
we've
got
here
is
is
I
mean
it's
a
tough
nut
to
crack.
Do.
I
L
M
G
L
It's
the
main
problem,
though,
is
that
the
model
we
are
using
and
when
you
look
at
the
growth
of
Buncombe
County
and
where
we
are
today
is
out
out
of
date.
You
know,
I
must
give
me
a
disclaimer
upfront.
I
live
in
the
city
and
I
was
surprised
a
year
and
a
half
ago
when
I
came
on
the
County
Commission
I
was
surprised
at
the
number
of
complaints
we
were
getting
from
the
county.
L
You
know
about
not
having
trash
picked
up
or
whatever,
and
then
when
I
started,
asking
questions,
though,
and
while
people
you
miss
people
in
all
I
thought
that
it
was
like
the
city
where
everybody
we
all
have
the
trash
pickup,
but
in
the
county
you
might
have
one
person
on
one
street
and
all
that,
but
I
know
in
the
next
six
months
or
so.
When
we
look
at
you,
if
the
contract
again,
do
you
think
it
would
be
wise
for
us
to
look
at
a
completely
new
model?
L
F
Been
talking
about
they
all
win
since
this
came
about
and
I
mean
I've
got
pictures
I
can
show
you
where,
on
one
road
and
off
of
old
Ford
Road
in
Fairview,
we
have
three
customers.
Eight
people
live
up
that
road
and
there'll
be
45
bags
of
trash
down
at
the
end
of
the
road.
So
you
knew
three
families
haven't
produced
all
that
everybody
takes
a
bit
waste,
Pro
fix
it
all
up
because
they
don't
want
to.
You
know
can't
go
through
there
and
say
you
know
this
person
pays
and
this
person
doesn't
through
it.
I
I
Don't
know,
I'd
have
to
pull
it
up,
but
I'll
get
the
information
and
get
it
to
you
for
sure.
But
no
I
completely
agree
with
you.
There's
this
it's
I,
wouldn't
I
would
invite
conversations.
Obviously
you
don't
have,
but
anytime
you
want
to
meet
and
discuss
this
there's
some
areas
where
there
can
be
some
huge
improvement.
I
mean,
let's
face
it
on
me.
Some
people
was
like
Bob
pointed
out
it.
E
E
F
H
H
H
N
I
would
I
would
just
say
that
I'd
be
a
little
leery
about
doing
that.
No,
you
may
want
to
do
some
modifications,
but
I
would
still
go
forward
with
a
rebid
and
the
reason
for
that
is
you
haven't
done
it
in
ten
years.
At
that
point,
the
second
thing
is
going
back
to
Commissioner
Whitesides
comment.
There
are
other
models
you
can
look
at
and
you
know
what
I
would
propose.
Is
the
staff
look
at
those
and
look
at
what
some
other
counties
have
done?
N
N
H
It
would
give
us
information,
in
other
words,
we
wouldn't
have
a
contract.
We
didn't
know
anything
about.
You
know,
we'd,
know
the
details
of
it.
We'd
know
you
know
going
to
the
back
door
of
the
elderly
person
or
whatever.
We
know
that
those
things
were
covered.
We'd
know
it
was
done
in
a
fair
way.
The
amount
would
be
fair
and
the
whether
it
was
you
know,
one
care
of
multiple
carriers
and.
M
I
just
got
an
email
from
someone
and
we
get
him
regularly
and
said
three
weeks.
It's
been
that
his
has
not
been
picked
up
now.
Whenever
he
calls
he
don't
get
no
response
at
all
before
it
was,
would
be
there
within
24
hours.
But
my
question
is
with
this
increase:
what
are
you
looking
at
upgrading
trucks?
M
I
Because
you
can
only
keep
those,
obviously
in
there
in
the
fleet,
for
so
long,
you
know
and
then
and
obviously
in
some
of
the
areas
that
we're
having
to
address
you
retire,
some
of
them
quicker
than
others.
You
know
the
biggest
reason
for
the
increases
has
been
what
six
years
since
the
last
week,
and
if
you
look
at
how
you
calculate
your
CPI,
even
you
using
your
formula,
it
doesn't
keep
up.
You
know
with
what's
what's
really
happening,
I
mean.
I
If
you
follow
the
CPI,
then
it
would
you
know
if
you
had
the
one,
for
instance,
that
was
Consumer
Price
Index,
that
included
trash
water
and
sewer.
It
also
would
have
all
you
would
have
all
that
in
there
and
you
just
tie
it
to
that
and
if
it
goes
up
two
percent,
then
you
go
up
two
percent.
If
it
goes
down
it
goes
down
and
but
the
way
ways
calculators.
You
got
that
formula
in
there
that
where
it
doesn't
keep
up
with
with
inflation,
you
know
you're
you're
always
behind.
I
I
You
know
so
that's
and
we're
finding
that
and
we're
still
coming
in
lowest
bidder
and
quite
frequently
you
know
with
our
very
contracts
and
everybody
else
is
two
and
three
dollars
higher
per
unit.
You
know,
and
subscriptions
service
is
tough.
You
have
one
stop.
You
may
drive
a
mile,
you
know
still
gotta
have
that
truck
on
the
road
you
know,
but
if
an
in
an
all-in
situation
like
we
were
talking
about
it,
then
you've
got
everybody
in
between
and
that
kid
that
can
help,
because
it
goes
back
to
efficiency.
I
M
I
F
I
A
A
There's
also
the
CPI
changes
over
time.
I
think
the
last
time
we
had
this
conversation,
the
other
thing
was
before
any
of
us
were
on
the
Commission,
but
the
last
time
the
waist
Pro
came
into
commission.
There
was
a
request
for
CPI,
related
change
and
I
think
the
Commission
granted
much
of
it,
but
maybe
maybe
didn't
do
the
whole
thing.
I
wonder
that
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
know
the
details,
but
they
they
were
having
the
same
discussion
before
we
got
here
and
we
are
gonna
go
forward
with
this
reassessment.
A
Rebidding
process
we'll
be
able
to
continue
the
conversation
with
waste
Pro.
If
there's
other
companies
that
want
to
put
a
proposal
on
the
table,
it'll
be
an
you
know
over
the
next
12
months.
We're
gonna
have
this
opportunity
to
really
look
at
this
whole
system,
so
this
is
kind
of
more
of
a
short-term
decision
about
how
we're
gonna
work
together
with
waste
Pro,
at
least
through
the
end
of
the
existing
contract,
and
we
might
continue
or
it
might
be,
might
be
a
different
company.
A
We
don't
have
to
make
this
decision
tonight,
but
we
do
need
to
act
within
60
days
of
the
request
coming
in.
So
we
do
need
to
make
a
decision
on
this
soon.
If
not
tonight,
I
guess
I'll.
Just
you
know,
I
feel
like
I.
Probably
have
the
information
I
need
to
make
a
decision.
I,
don't
know
that
I
would
learn
much
more
over
the
next.
A
Ready
to
to
vote
on
one
of
those
options
tonight
which
could
be
no
change,
the
full
request,
the
CPI
option
is
an
option
that's
kind
of
in
between.
So
you
know
and
there's
nothing
that
says
we
have
to
do
one
of
those
three,
but
those
are
the
three
that
summit
they
have
to
me
seem
to
have
some
kind
of
objective
basis
in
them.
I.
E
I
K
Would?
If,
because
we
do
have
the
time
I
would
like
to
just
get
that
at
my
preference
would
be
that
we
just
have
a
chance
to
get
that
additional
information
about
the
salary
ranges,
and
if
there
is
any
specific
information
you
all
can
share
about.
I,
don't
know
if
being
a
second
chance,
employer
sort
of
an
official
designation
or
if
that's
an
informal
policy
that
y'all
have
better.
I
J
K
That
I
personally
would
like
to
have
that
information
I'd
like
to
hear
from
more
folks
in
the
community.
I've
I
have
heard
from
some
folks
who
have
complaints
but
I'm,
guessing
they're,
all
folks
who
are
also
out
there,
who
have
good
things
to
say
about
the
service
they
receive
so
I'd,
be
interested
in
taking
some
time
to
hear
from
more
folks
how.
E
A
So
I
guess
maybe
from
the
other
commissioners
and
the
question
of.
Are
you
prepared
to
vote
now
on
whichever
those
things
options
we
might
choose,
or
do
you
want
to
take
a
little
more
time,
I'm,
hearing,
Ellen,
I,
think
you're,
you
said
you
said:
you're
ready,
I,
think
I'm,
ready
Jasmine
would
be
okay
with
taking
more
time.
What
are
thoughts
of
other
commissioners
I
think.
M
I'm
ready,
because
on
the
positive
side,
I
have
two
commercial
dumpsters
and
had
them
for
eight
or
ten
years
and
they're
within
10
minutes
every
time
on
the
front
end
load
of
it
so
I'm
hearing
from
residential
the
commercial
end,
I'm
very
happy
with
what
it
is
and
I
could
help
make.
The
decision
now.
A
A
A
L
Think
we're
in
a
hurry,
I
think
we
need
to
discuss
this
more
because
I'm
concerned.
I
know
it's
a
small
amount,
but
17%
is
still
a
lot.
You
know
and
we've
got
to
think
of
our
constituents
in
doing
this,
and
I
want
to
be
fair
to
them
and
I
know,
even
though
I'm
not
paying
it
but
I'm
representing
people
who
are
and
I'm
not
ready
to
vote
tonight.
We
need
to
discuss
this
more
okay.
A
H
So
I
have
concerns
about
the
model
in
the
contract.
I
didn't
write,
the
contract,
I
didn't
sign
for
the
contract,
I
didn't
prove
it,
but
I
get
to
deal
with
it.
Okay,
I
think
the
contract
is
poorly
written
and
I.
Think
it's
not
very
well
on
the
negotiating
side
of
you
know
it
was
probably
too
low
at
the
time
it
was
done,
and
it's
easy
easy
for
me
too
easy
for
me
to
say
and
also
I'm
a
little
shocked
at
it's
just
75
people
actually
I'm.
H
You
know,
75
people
are
doing
all
that
work.
It
just
doesn't
sound
like
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
to
me
here.
It
really
hasn't.
I
am
not
prepared
to
vote
for
a
full
amount.
Actually,
I
would
not
approve
the
full
amount.
I
would
I
could
probably
vote
for
less,
but
also,
if
there
was
it
is,
it
is
terrible
policy
to
wait
six
years
and
then
go
up
on
the
public.
I
mean
we.
It
should
be
done.
H
You
know
a
little
bit
over
time
and
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
do
that
now
on
on
this
I,
look
terrible
interim
manager
and
I'm
thinking.
You
know
you
know
ken
ken
its
8.7
scpi.
Can
we
approve
half
of
that
now
and
half
of
it?
You
know
at
the
beginning
of
the
year.
Does
it
do
we
have
to
you
vote
for
it?
The
way
it's
presented
now.
N
I'll
defer
to
Michael
on
that,
but
the
way
I'm
interpreting
it
is
what
triggers
it
is,
is
if
the
CPI
has
gone
up
over
5%
since
the
last
increase.
So
once
it's
triggered,
I
would
say
that
you
could
decide
what
kind
of
rate
increase
you
wanted
and
if
you
wanted
to
stair
step
it
I
don't
see
why.
That
would
be
a
problem
because
you've
met
the
trigger,
which
is
the
5%.
So.
N
N
O
H
N
A
E
A
F
G
E
H
L
D
H
A
E
I
A
It's
not
unanimous,
it
will
require
a
second
vote.
Is
that
correct,
and
even
if
we,
but
also
if
we
didn't
come
to
if
a
majority
didn't
approve
some
plan
tonight
and
we
did
it
at
our
next
meeting,
it
would
still
require
two
votes.
Ultimately,
if
the
first
vote
doesn't
pass
unanimously,
it
requires
a
second
vote,
whether
that
happens
tonight
or
at
some
other
meeting.
Thank
you
all
right.
Any
further
discussion.
A
All
right,
yes,
I'm
gonna
support
the
motion.
I
think
the
I
think
achieving
the
CPI
in
being
made
whole
on
that
is
fair
from
a
business
standpoint
in
the
contract.
I
think
it
doesn't
require
it,
but
it
certainly
contemplates
that
and
so
I
think.
That's
that's
fair
and
I
probably
would
have
supported
the
whole
thing
tonight.
But
a
two-step
process
is
okay
with
me
as
well,
and.
A
You
know
I,
think
that
this
opportunity
to
labrie
look
at
the
whole
contract
process
is
good.
That's
a
great
opportunity
to
continue
looking
at
more.
You
know
this
is
kind
of
a
short-term
interim
status
and
there'll
be
a
chance
over
the
20
X
12
months
to
really
explore
kind
of
a
full
range
of
you
know.
What's
what
makes
sense
for
the
next
decade,
so
I'm
excited
about
that
opportunity
as
well
and
there'll
be
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
public
input.
On
that
any
other
comments,
I.
H
E
E
L
H
I
A
N
What
we
want
to
do,
then,
is
give
the
have
the
staff
give
you
an
overview
of
how
our
major
fringe
benefits
compared
to
the
other
nine
of
the
ten
largest
counties
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina,
as
you
all
know,
we're
the
seventh
largest.
So
that
tends
to
be
the
category
that
we
compare
with
so
once
we
do
that,
then
we
want
to
talk
about
the
last,
which
is
the
largest
or
the
most
costly
fringe
benefit,
and
that's
health
insurance,
and
the
reason
that
we
want
to
get
these
done
at
that
time
is.
N
We
need
to
make
decisions
no
later
than
September,
because
you
start
your
budget
process
in
October
and
we
want
to
have
the
decisions
made
on
the
pay
plan
and
also
on
the
medical
insurance
before
then
also
October
is
the
month
that
you
do
open
enrollment
for
our
employees
to
re-enroll
in
the
various
fringe
benefit
programs.
So
we
need
to
have
a
decision
in
place
on
the
medical
plans
at
that
point.
N
N
at
a
BTEC.
That's
to
get
a
presentation
from
the
seven
recipients
of
the
Isaac
Coleman
grants,
totaling
$500,000
that
you've
previously
said
warded.
So
this
will
be
an
opportunity
for
them
to
go
each
one
of
them
to
go
in-depth
with
you,
probably
for
15
or
20
minutes
of
exactly
what
they're
doing
as
a
recipients
of
those
funds
and
Commissioner
frost,
I
think
you've
been
involved
in
setting
that
meeting
up.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
add
to
that?
No.
E
E
N
A
couple
of
items
on
open
positions:
we
are
moving
forward
with
filling
the
Finance
Director
position.
That's
already
been
advertised
it'll
close
shortly
and
then
we'll
start
going
through
those
applications
and
airing
that
down
the
other
one
that
we
have
begun.
The
process
on
is
the
library
director
position
and
Jim
Holland
is
working
with
the
library
advisory
board
on
that.
So
we'll
move
forward
with
that
search
as
well
and
that's
all
I've
got
mr.
chairman.
All.
A
P
Good
evening,
commissioners
and
members
of
the
public
just
over
one
year
ago,
apologize
just
over
one
year
ago,
as
you
probably
remember,
House
bill,
630,
otherwise
known
as
Rylands
law
was
codified
in
North
Carolina,
and
this
law
really
is
the
most
sweeping
reform
legislation
to
hit
the
sub
public
social
services
system.
Certainly
in
my
career,
if
not
in
the
history
of
our
state,
so
we've
been
monitoring
the
activities
of
this
law
and
the
workings
of
it.
P
And
it's
just
thank
you
for
inviting
me
tonight
to
update
you
on
what
is
happening
and
a
major
component
of
the
law
just
went
into
effect
in
July
and
I
really
did
want
to
focus
on
that
one,
a
little
bit
to
run
through
it
a
little
bit.
The
first
thing
that
happened
was
a
social
services.
Work
group
was
formed
at
the
state
level,
consisting
of
County
Commissioners
members
of
the
House
members
of
the
Senate
members
of
the
court
and
local
DSS
directors
to
look
at
our
system
of
state
supervision.
P
Their
initial
report
came
out
in
March
of
this
year
and
basically,
that
report
recommended
a
state
supervised,
but
regional
administered
system
of
state
supervision.
For
those
of
us,
who've
been
in
this
business
a
little
while
and
I'm
looking
at
Jim.
This
is
the
model
that
we
had
for
many
many
years
in
North
Carolina
up
until
about
I
can't
remember
the
year,
but
I
remember
when
it
happened.
It
was
roughly
twenty
years
ago
that
we
centralized
all
of
our
state
supervision
into
Raleigh
and
I'll
have
to
say.
P
When
we
had
those
regional
offices,
we
did
receive
much
closer
supervision
by
the
state
better
support.
We
had
state
attorneys
that
we
could
get
legal
vice
from
we
had
state
consultants
who
set
rather
close
to
us.
We
got
training
more
locally,
so
I
see
this
as
an
opportunity
for
good,
and
we
certainly
would
support
a
regional
approach.
I
think
the
closer
that
leadership
is
to
the
folks.
They
lead,
often
the
better
that
leadership
is
so
we
just
want
you
to
know
that
that's
moving
forward.
P
These
regional
offices
are
to
be
up
and
running
by
March
of
2020,
so
this
won't
happen
overnight.
As
you
can
imagine,
there's
a
lot
of
staffing
things
that
need
to
be
accomplished
in
just
practical
things
like
there
are
no
buildings
remaining
for
these
kind
of
things.
The
second
big
piece
of
this
bill
is
that
a
third-party
vendor
was
contracted
to
come
and
take
a
broad,
deep
look
at
our
social
services
system
in
North
Carolina,
and
not
just
child
welfare.
Although
that's
the
piece
that
they
focused
on
the
most
I
want.
P
You
know
that
our
staff
have
been
very
involved
in
this
process.
We
have
sent
staff
from
across
the
agency
to
multiple
meetings,
work
groups,
strategic
planning
sessions,
so
we're
doing
our
best
to
make
sure
that
our
voice
is
heard
in
this
process
and
we've
certainly
invited
anyone
who
wants
to
come
and
look
at
the
child,
welfare
and
social
services
model
that
has
been
developed
here
in
Buncombe
County
and
we've
had
quite
a
few
takers
on
that
in
the
last
few
months.
P
Their
report
is
due
in
August
and
in
September
they
will
present
that
initial
vision
for
social
services
reform
to
the
joint
legislative
oversight
committee
on
September
11th.
So
we
will
certainly
be
actually
awaiting
that
report.
To
see
what
what
that
might
say,
the
one
that
I
bring
to
you
specifically
today
is
in
that
bill.
A
year
ago
it
created
local
written
agreements
between
the
state,
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
and
the
and
the
counties
for
provision
of
social
services.
P
Although
we
are
county
employees
and
as
you
well
know,
by
sitting
on
that,
commission,
the
county
also
funds
a
large
majority
of
the
local
services
to
our
citizens,
but
this
was
just
codified.
To
bring
some
kind
of
working
agreement
between
the
two
I
do
think
that
that
document
does
bring
certain
challenges
and
opportunities
to
us
and
I
certainly
included
a
copy
of
it
in
your
packet.
P
It's
20
pages
long,
so
I
won't
go
through
every
piece
of
it,
but
where
I
think
it
gives
us
opportunity,
is
it
really
puts
a
little
bit
of
onus
on
our
state
supervisor
to
begin
supervising
us
appropriately
again,
I
think
what
happened
over
those
20
years
of
centralization
is
that
our
support
and
supervision
really
began
to
wane
and
I.
Think
counties
began
to
have
to
supervise
themselves
and
I.
Think
in
some
counties
that
worked
very
well
I.
Think
Buncombe
County
is
one
of
those,
because
we
did
have
support
from
our
local
leaders.
P
We
did
have
the
resources
and
the
vision
to
create
a
strong
local
social
services
system,
but
in
some
counties,
they're
somewhat
resource
challenged
and
they
may
not
have
had
all
the
opportunities
to
do
that
on
a
local
level,
and
so
this
really
does
in
some
ways
hold
our
state
supervisor
accountable
to
deliver
a
consistent
supervision
across
the
state.
I
see
that
as
a
positive
thing
in
Buncombe
County
certainly
does
not
resist
that
effort.
I
think
some
of
the
challenges
and
and
just
in
the
spirit
of
you
know,
transparency.
P
Some
counties
have
really
struggled
with
this
document,
and
upwards
of
20
to
25
counties
have
either
considered
not
signing
it
or
had
their
commission
pass
a
resolution
concerning
it
or
sent
a
very
detailed
signing
statement.
You
need
to
know
that
the
department
sent
all
of
those
agreements
back
and
refused
to
accept
them
and
I
think.
The
reason
for
that
is
some
of
the
measures
in
the
document
for
some
counties
would
be
impossible
to
reach
often
for
situations
beyond
their
control.
P
There's
also
a
few
measurements
in
there
that
really
are
hard
to
find
in
in
the
policies
that
are
that
are
quoted,
but
all
in
all,
our
stance
here
in
Buncombe
has
been
that
these
are
state
or
federal
requirements,
and
most
of
them
are
already
in
law.
And
writing
them
in
a
document
does
not
make
you
any
more
responsible
to
comply
with
them
than
if
you
didn't
write
them
in
a
document.
Also,
the
MOU
is
a
part
of
state
law,
and
so
I
really
do
not
think
as
agents
of
the
state
and
local
government.
P
We
really
are
going
to
disobey
state
law
and
I
also
would
say
in
Buncombe.
County
I
feel
reasonably
confident
that
we
can
meet
the
majority
of
these
performance
standards
and
where
they
are
impossible
to
meet.
I
think
our
job
is
to
advocate
for
system
reform
and
one
example
in
that
document
is
one
year
to
permanency
for
children
in
foster
care.
Our
state
law
doesn't
allow
you
to
have
that
permanency
planning
hearing
until
one
year.
P
The
federal
law
is
a
little
different,
so
they
want
children
to
be
either
back
home
or
in
a
permanent
home
within
12
months.
But
if
you
can't
have
your
court
hearing
in
until
12
months,
then
obviously
that
child
is
not
going
to
get
back
home
in
time.
So
I
think
that's
a
systems
issue,
and
we
will
advocate
for
reform
on
that,
and
we
are
more
than
happy
to
do
that,
but
it
still
doesn't
keep
us
from
our
duty
to
get
children
back
home
as
soon
as
possible
in
a
safe,
stable
home.
P
P
I
am
glad
it's
a
county
option
and
that
this
will
not
be
forced
upon
us,
because
I
do
think
there
are
certain
challenges
and
difficulties
in
a
regional
service
delivery
model,
primarily
around
governance
and
also
around
funding,
because
think
it's
very
difficult
to
take
two
three,
maybe
up
to
seven
counties
with
seven
County
Commission's
and
come
up
with
a
single
service
delivery
model
and
a
single
funding
model
which
would
require
equal
participation
from
all.
You
know
three
to
seven
of
those
counties
so
just
to
go
on
record
I've
been
forthright
about,
said.
P
I
do
think
collaboration.
Regional
collaboration
is
a
good
idea.
I,
do
not
think
a
locally
funded,
regionally
supervised
system
is,
would
work
very
well
in
our
state
so
and
like
that,
that's
the
overview,
and
you
have
the
document
before
you
and
I'm.
Do
you
know
it's
on
the
website
for
citizens
who
want
to
look
at
it?
I
really
just
wanted
to
open
it
up
for
questions
and
see.
P
If
you
had
questions
about
the
document,
knowing
that
it
does
have
language
in
there
about
state
performance,
improvement
plans,
corrective
action
plans,
withholding
of
state
and
federal
funds
as
well
as
state
takeover.
So
these
are
pretty
for
some
people.
This
new
language
and
I
just
wanted
to
open
that
up
and
see.
If
you
had
any
questions
or
concerns
or
comments.
G
K
P
Child
welfare
being
transformation,
Council
is
still
in
process
of
being
formed,
and
it
will
be
a
statewide
committee
that
really
will
focus
on
collaboration
between
large
systems
to
ensure
that
the
various
systems
that
work
with
child
welfare
are
working
well
together.
I
think
that
actually,
that
council
is
in
the
process
of
being
chosen
has
not
begun
yet,
but
it
will
begin
in
this
fiscal
year.
H
So
just
a
comment
so
I'm,
just
in
looking
through
the
documents.
Most
of
this
is
just
making
sure
that
the
training
and
data
and
and
that
the
works
being
done
properly
and
timely
and
accurate
and
which
you
know
it's
being
done
now.
So
that's
why
we
did.
The
mou
doesn't
really
give
you
a
lot
of
pause
right
and.
P
P
You
know
we're
top
five
in
the
state
and
child
support
outcomes.
So
really
those
kind
of
things
don't
worry
as
to
much
and
a
lot
of
the
other
standards
are
really
based
on
our
effort.
So
if
it
says
we
need
to
initiate
95
percent
of
our
cases
on
time,
I
have
no
problem
with
that,
because
that's
an
effort
issue,
the
only
ones
we
might
have
some
pause
with
are
the
ones
that
we
genuinely
have
no
control
over,
like
whether
a
parent
might
mistreat
their
child.
J
J
The
reason
for
the
proposal
largely
deal
with
declining
ridership
trends
that
we've
experienced
since
2014.
This
is
on
par
with
what
we're
seeing
nationally
in
public
transit,
which
is
a
decline
in
ridership,
as
the
economy
has
improved.
People's
access
to
other
forms
of
transportation
has
also
improved.
The
second
reason
is
the
cost
of
fare.
Collection
itself
is
actually
approaching
a
point
where
we
are
kind
of
breaking,
even
or
potentially
exceeding
that
cost.
J
Some
of
the
things
that
go
into
fare
collection
are
real
fixed
costs,
including
the
purchase
of
fare
boxes,
which
can
range
from
around
thirteen
or
fourteen
hundred
dollars
per
fare
box
to
upwards
of
seven
and
eight
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
a
real,
fixed
cost,
which
happens
when
we
purchase
and
acquire
a
vehicle.
J
There
has
been
an
expressed
interest
in
looking
at
fare
free
options
for
the
Trailblazers.
They
are
feeder
routes
into
the
city
of
Asheville,
so
they
provide
connections
to
both
Haywood
County
Transit
on
our
inkay
trailblazer
and
then
all
three
actually
feed
into
the
city
of
Asheville's
fixed
route
system.
J
So
when
a
person
needs
to
ride
into
the
city,
they're
paying
a
fare
on
the
Trailblazer
out
and
then
also
paying
the
city's
fare
on
that
service,
so
it's
increasing
the
cost
for
that
particular
writer
and
what
we
feel
would
be
more
accessible,
certainly
more
affordable
opportunities
for
public
transit
options
for
the
citizens
of
Buncombe
County.
In
looking
at
and
exploring
a
fare
free
option,
there
are
certainly
advantages
to
dis
and
disadvantages
that
we
evaluated
the
principal
disadvantage
is
a
loss
in
fare
revenue,
but,
as
we've
explained,
the
actual
cost
of
collecting
those
revenues
again.
J
We're
kind
of
at
that
breaking
point
where
we're
going
to
exceed
what
we're
able
to
collect,
especially
as
ridership,
has
declined.
So
we
in
2014
we
were
collecting
an
average
of
around
fourteen
thousand
dollars
annually
in
fares.
We
project
that
number
to
be
11,000
and
the
current
fiscal
year,
which
is
just
wrapping
up
now
and
then
an
FY
19
that
would
decline
to
around
10,000
so
we're
seeing
with
the
loss
of
ridership,
also
loss
in
fares.
J
Other
basic
advantages
that
we
would
see
is
the
potential
for
increased
ridership,
quicker
boarding
and
alighting
and
as
that
improves,
we
can
certainly
add
more
stocks
and
make
those
routes
more
productive
and
then
again
the
reduced
collection
costs
in
the
FY
19
budget.
We
did
not
include
any
fares
as
revenues
for
those
daeviated
fixed
route
services,
so
that
we
could
have
this
consideration
with
the
board
moving
forward
in
fiscal
year,
19
and
certainly
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
or
provide
additional
information.
A
L
K
A
K
Just
like
to
share
that,
you
know
I
hear
from
a
lot
of
folks
across
district
one
in
other
parts
of
the
county
about
what
a
high
priority
public
transportation
is
for
them,
just
in
terms
of
the
basics
of
getting
to
work,
getting
the
doctor's
appointments
and
getting
around
town
so
excited
to
see
this
being
proposed
and
I
plan
to
support
it.
Thinking
it
increases,
helps
increase
accessibility
to
public
transportation
services
and
also
makes
a
ton
of
sense.
A
Any
other
questions
I
would
I
would
just
echo
comment,
said
Commissioner
Beach
for
our
just
added
I
think
this
is
a
I
like
what
I
like
about.
This
is
the
simplicity
of
it.
You
know
we
we
operate.
This
transit
is
it.
These
are
the
transit
routes
that
you
know
they're
not
running
in
the
highest
density
parts
in
the
middle
of
the
city.
A
These
are
kind
of
running
on
the
edges
of
the
city
and
areas
that
definitely
need
transit,
but
we're
you
know
it's
always
gonna,
be
you
know,
something's
going
to
require
public
investments,
so
it's
seems
like
one
of
those
areas
we're
actually
charging
people
to
use
it.
Actually,
it
doesn't
really
give
us
more
revenue
to
run
the
system
because
of
the
cost
to
administer
it.
So
just
saying
hey
you
know
here
are
these
fixed
routes
folks
can
use
it,
give
it
a
try,
I
mean
the
other
places.
This
has
been
done.
A
It's
been
shown
to
kind
of
spark
interesting.
You
know
people
who
had
never
used
trans
before
say
hey.
Maybe
we
should
give
it
a
try.
You
can
just
hop
on
and
and
ride
it
and
see
how
it
works
and
for
folks
who
have
a
positive
experience,
maybe
they'll
continue
to
use
it
after
that.
So
I
think
it's
a
good
good
proposal.
I
think
we
we
ought
to
definitely
evaluate
it
as
it
as
it
goes
forward,
see
how
it
works
this
year
and
and
learn
from
that
so
but
I'm
supportive.
Any
other
questions
all
right.
A
N
On
your
role
in
the
governing
boards
role
in
hiring
a
manager
so
that
all
of
you
would
have
an
opportunity
to
read
that
I
think
it's
a
good
overview
of
the
process
that
you
typically
go
through,
and
the
reason
that
I
sent
that
out
early
is
I'm
very
concerned
that
that
we
not
lose
a
whole
nother
month,
because
if
we
don't
make
a
decision
tonight,
we
don't
meet
again
till
August
7th
and
that's
a
whole
month.
And
if
you
look
in
the
booklet,
they
list
they
listed
a
time
frame.
N
Best
case
would
be
about
four
months
worst
case
about
seven
months,
but
it's
actually
more
than
that,
because
they
don't
include
any
time
for
doing
an
RFQ
to
hire
the
consultant
and
I'm
figuring
about
45
days
on
that.
So
that's
why
I
was
concerned
about.
Hopefully
we
can
make
a
decision
tonight
about
which
way
you
want
to
go.
N
N
The
disadvantage,
of
course,
to
the
executive
search
firm
is
there
is
an
added
cost
to
that.
However,
this
should
be
a
process
you
know
go
through
very
often,
you
know
if
we
do
a
good
job
and
we
have
a
good
match
this
person,
hopefully
a
be
with
you
anywhere
from
you-
know,
7
to
12
years
somewhere
in
that
range,
so
it
and
in
looking
at
it.
N
My
feeling
was
that
since
y'all
have
not
gone
through
a
detailed
search
in
the
past
that
this
would
probably
be
the
best
thing,
and
so
that's
what
I've
recommended
for
you.
What
I'd
like
to
do
now
is
just
go
through
if
you
turn
to
the
second
page
and
can't
go
through
these
get
some
idea
of
what's
involved
in
this.
N
Of
course,
number
one
is
what
we're
doing
tonight:
discuss
key
elements
of
the
process
and
establish
a
schedule.
Number
two
is
the
Board
of
Commissioners
decides
whether
to
use
the
interim
County
manager
and
North
Carolina
Association
county
commissioners
consultant
or
an
executive
search
firm,
and
that's
the
decision.
We're
asking
you
to
make
tonight
number
three.
If
this
is
this
assumes
that
you
go
with
the
executive
search
firm.
If
you
don't,
then
a
lot
of
these
things
where
we
say
the
search
firm,
does
it
then
I
would
be
doing
that
driving
that
process.
N
The
number
three
is
that
I
would
prepare
an
advertising
RFQ
for
an
executive
search,
firm
number.
Four,
the
Board
of
Commissioners
holds
a
series
of
district
public
input
meetings
to
solicit
what
attributes
citizens
want
in
their
new
county
manager.
We
do
feel
like
and
I
think
Sarah
love
you've
made
that
comment
that
you
want
citizen
participation
on
this
and
I
think
that
is
the
critical
element.
So
we
would
include
that,
and
one
thing
to
note
here
is:
we
can
go
ahead
and
do
those
while
the
RFQ
is
out
and
we're
waiting
for
them
to
respond.
N
We
can
go
ahead
and
hold
these
district
meetings,
and
I
can
facilitate
that.
We
also
have
some
staff
MAPE
members
here.
They
can
facilitate
that.
So
we'll
do
the
do
those
meetings
and
then
we'd,
like
also
for
you
to
hold
a
meeting
with
our
county
department
heads
so
that
we
can
get
input
from
them
as
to
what
they'd
like
to
see
in
their
next
manager,
and
all
of
that
will
be
input
for
you,
so
that
you
can
then
prepare
a
preliminary
profile
of
the
ideal,
County
Manager
candidate
and
what
I'd
like
to
do.
N
There
is,
if
you
flip
to
the
other
page.
This
is
not
all
the
attributes
you
would
look
at.
This
is
just
some
ideas
of
it.
There's
some
more
in
the
booklet
that
you
read
through,
but
these
are
just
dispersed
and
thought,
but
as
you
go
out
and
solicit
information
from
the
public,
we
may
put
some
of
these
up
just
to
spur
the
conversation.
N
We
call
it
community
presence
some
boards,
like
a
manager,
that's
very
visible
in
the
community.
Others
want
somebody
who
is
in
the
office
more
and
take
care
of
business
and
there's
a
balance.
There's
no
right
answer:
you
don't
want
somebody,
that's
too
much
one
way
or
the
other.
Probably
you
want
someone
who's
balanced,
but
you
need
to
give
that
some
thought
and
the
manager
needs
to
know
what
your
expectation
is
in
that
as
to
you
know,
because
you
don't
want
somebody
that
takes
care
of
business
in
the
office,
but
nobody
knows
who
they
are.
N
You
know
that's
not
good,
and
you
also
don't
want
someone
who's
so
sociable
out
in
the
community,
but
they
never
get
the
work
done.
So
that's
what
we
mean
by
that
then
last
experience
in
negotiating
economic
development
incentive
packages.
So
these
are
just
some
of
the
things
that
we'll
want
to
take
into
account.
But
the
main
thing
is
is
to
give
the
public
an
opportunity
to
tell
you
what
they
view
as
the
most
important
attributes.
N
Then
we'll
have
our
department
heads,
do
it
and
then
ultimately,
it's
going
to
be
your
decision
as
to
what
you
want
to
emphasize
and
when
you
do
that
we'll
have
a
pretty
good
profile
of
what
we
want
to
emphasize
and
then
that
is
what
we
put
into
the
ad
when
we
go
out
to
and
at
that
point
we'll
have
the
consultant
on
board
and
they'll
do
all
the
advertising
and
materials
and
all
that
now
we
have
an
excellent
communications
department.
So
we
may
talk
with
them
about.
N
They
may
tell
us
what
to
put
in
it,
but
we
may
develop
the
materials
and
things
and
that'll
save
us
some
money
once
you
once
you
refine
and
finalize
the
county
manager
profile
and
then
you'll
select
the
finalists
from
request
for
qualifications
and
interviews
and
select
negotiates
contract
with
executive
search.
Firm
I
will
assist
you
with
that.
I
did
talk
to
the
city
manager
and
she
indicated
that
they
got
eleven.
N
Returns
on
their
request
for
qualifications
on
the
city
manager
position,
so
you
could
be
looking
at
that
many.
We
then
need
to
take
that
Whittle
that
down
to
about
the
top
four
or
five,
and
then
at
that
point
we
can
bring
them
in
for
interviews
and
decide
which
one
you
want
to
pick
as
your
executive
search
firm
and
then
we'll
need
to
negotiate
a
contract
with
them.
But
this
is
just
like
the
selection
of
an
engineer.
Architect,
you
select
on
qualifications
under
state
law
and
then
we,
then
we
negotiate
a
fee
with
it.
N
Then
they
would
screen
the
applicant
pool
for
the
top
candidates.
Once
the
deadline
has
been
reached,
then
you
would
decide
on
the
method
of
interviewing
and
whether
to
include
an
assessment
center
and
they'll
discuss.
All
of
that
with
you,
the
pros
and
cons
and
then
will
will
determine
that.
Then
they
would
develop
the
interview,
questions,
the
Assessment
Center
scenarios
and
grading
system
and
provide
the
Assessors.
So
it's
their
responsibility
to
do
all
of
that
for
you
and
bring
the
Assessors
in
there.
N
Typically
retired
county
managers,
some
finance
directors,
some
HR
directors,
depending
on
the
quest
they
want
to
pose
to
them
and
what
an
Assessment
Center
is
is
they'll,
have
a
mixed
panel
of
that
and
over
there
wouldn't
be
all
County
managers
or
all
finance
directions.
They
have
some
of
each
and
then
you
put
them
through
a
scenario.
You
might
give
them
a
half
a
page,
explaining
a
scenario
and
then
say
how
would
you
deal
with
that?
N
N
So
at
that
point
you
will
it
down
further
and
then
we'll
have
y'all
interview
and
they'll
develop
some
more
questions.
But
at
that
point
we
want
you
to
see
those
four
or
five
top
finalists
and
interact
with
them,
because
at
that
stage
most
of
these
people,
all
of
them
can
do
the
job
from
a
technical
standpoint.
All
of
them
are
going
to
be
good.
They
can
all
do
the
job.
A
lot
of
it
at
that
point
is
the
fit
with
the
board.
How
comfortable
are
you
with
them?
N
So
and
again,
they'll
they'll
do
the
added
interview
questions,
so
you
would
conduct
those
interviews.
Hopefully,
then
you
can
reach
a
consensus
among
yourselves
as
to
who
you
think
the
top
candidate
is,
and
at
that
point
the
the
people
would
conduct
a
reference
check,
criminal
history
and
credit
check
and
educational
credentials,
and
then
you
can
make
an
offer
of
employment
contingent
on
agreement
on
salary
and
benefits
and
a
successful
physical
and
drug
screen.
N
H
A
A
L
A
G
A
Opposed
all
right,
mr.
wood,
thank
you
very
much
for
this
detailed
outline
of
the
process,
and
so
following
up
on
this
you'll
go
ahead
and
issue
an
RFQ
now,
so
that
process
will
start
and
we'll
meet
our
next
regular
meeting
is
in
August,
and
so
where
do
you
expect
us
to
be?
At
that
point?
You
think
you'll
have
you'll,
have
the
short
list
or
you'll
have
you'll
know
who's
interested
will.
N
A
N
N
A
All
right,
there's
no
other
questions
on
this
item.
We'll
move
on
to
the
motion
to
yes,
we
did
and
it
was
unanimous.
Okay,
it's
okay,
no
problem
all
right
motion
to
consider
a
resolution
authorizing
the
execution
of
a
loan
modification
subordination
agreement
and
release
of
deed
with
Eagle
marketplace.
Llc
and
Michael
free
will
present
this
item.
O
Mr.
chairman
commissioners,
thank
you
good
evening
see
some
of
our
friends
from
Mountain
housing
her
here
this
evening.
What
they're
requesting
of
this
board
is
approval
of
a
loan
modification
agreement,
subordination
agreement
and
it
released
deed,
now,
go
through
each
of
those
briefly,
but
it
might
be
helpful
just
to
get
a
little
history
on
this.
This
Eagle
Marketplace
project
has
been
in
the
works
for
four
years,
in
fact
that
the
Board
of
Commissioners
approved
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
loan
for
the
project.
O
The
idea
of
the
two
million
dollar
loan
was
originally
62,
low-income
units
rental
units
in
the
complex
it
was
be
mixed-use
commercial
units
in
the
bottom,
and
the
agreement
contemplated
that
the
building
would
be
placed
in
the
condominium
at
some
point
so
that
that
condominium
aspect
of
it
is
in
place
now.
No
reason
for
this
board
to
have
not
agreed
to
form
the
condominium
that
just
forms
flexibility
for
the
ownership
and
and
for
how
Mountain
housing
might
need
to
sell
off
commercial
units
and
approach
the
use
of
the
units.
O
It's
everyone
understands
well,
most
people
remember
that
a
few
years
ago
the
construction
was
proceeding
and
issues
happened.
I
think
someone
to
turn
to
screw
wrong
at
the
wrong
time
and
it
really
fouled
up
the
whole
project
and
it's
at
their
vacant
with
a
tower
crane
on
it
for
a
couple
years.
So
mountain
house
that
came
back
to
this
board
about
two
years
ago
or
three
years
ago
and
asked
to
modify
the
structure
of
the
income
units
to
be
thirty
as
workforce
housing
and
then
the
other
thirty-two
to
be
low-income.
O
Well
that
actually
up
to
thirty
units
as
that
workforce,
housing,
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
where
that's
going
to
end
up
workforce
housing
are
people
that
earn
one
hundred
percent
to
one
hundred
twenty
percent
of
the
medium
area.
Income
and
the
low-income
housing
would
be
sixty
to
eighty
I
think
below
sixty
of
the
area,
medium
income.
So
the
requests
here
today
do
not
change
the
underlying
rights
and
obligations
of
the
parties
to
these
agreements
between,
as
between
the
county
and
Mountain
housing
and
the
group,
they
formed
Eagle
marketplace
Inc.
O
So
the
loan
modification
agreement
is
for
the
two
million
dollars.
The
principle
purpose
of
the
loan
modification
agreement
is
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
aware
that
of
the
two
million
dollar
loan,
with
the
condominium
having
it's
in
the
works
of
being
created
and
filed
with
the
Register
of
Deeds
is
that
on
the
commercial
units,
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
would
be
secured
on
the
commercial
unit.
O
One
hundred
and
a
million
and
half
dollars
would
be
secured
on
unit
two
hundred,
which
is
a
portion
of
the
rental
units
that
we
were
talking
about,
and
the
resolution
would
authorize
the
chairman
vice
chairman
of
the
county
manager,
to
execute
that
document.
Subordination
agreement
speaks
to
the
sale
of
the
commercial
unit
102
an
outfit
called
EMP
commercial
LLC,
so
they're
getting
a
new
loan.
They
want
to
borrow
a
million
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
Carolina
small
business
and
pay
off
the
loan
to
neighborhood.
O
Neighbor
works
capital
corporation
of
1
million,
seven
hundred
sixty
thousand
dollars.
So,
as
you
can
imagine,
this
commercial
transaction,
the
new
lender
does
not
want
to,
and
it
wouldn't
be
in
their
interest
to
make
a
loan
to
which
they
were
subordinate
to
the
county.
So
they
want
to
be
in
first
place
and
it
was
the
idea
originally
by
the
county
would
be
in
no
less
than
fourth
place
for
all
the
loans
on
the
property
that
be
primary
lender,
secondary
lenders,
the
city
of
Asheville
and
the
county.
O
So
that's
the
request
there
is
to
allow
them
to
have
a
first
lien
position
for
that
new
million
seven
hundred
thousand
dollar
loan
on
the
commercial
property.
The
release
deed
relates
to
the
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
loan,
which
I
mentioned
has
been
in
place
since
2010,
and
that
is
simply
to
release
from
the
security.
The
county
currently
has
the
commercial
units
and
leave
the
security
on
the
residential
units
alone.
O
N
A
All
right,
thank
you,
mister
FRU.
That
was
a
great
great
explanation,
so
appreciate
it.
There's
anybody
from
immature
want
to
add
anything
at
this.
At
this
juncture,
I
appreciate
you
all
being
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Is
there
anything
you
would
want
to
add
to
the
presentation
at
this
time
all
right,
I
want.
E
A
Yeah
I
would
I
would
I
would
add
to
that.
You
know
I
think
this
is
a
projects
had
about
every
curve
ball
that
could
be
thrown
at
it.
You
know
has
been,
and
but
here
we
are,
you
know,
and
we
just
had
a
chance
to
take
a
tour
of
it.
It's
beautiful
it's
a
beautiful
development
right
in
the
the
heart
of
our
city,
and
you
know
in
a
very
historic
part
of
our
community.
A
Our
you
know,
we
all
know
our
our
city
and
our
downtown
are
changing
a
lot,
but
this
is
a
really
positive
kind
of
change,
but
you
know
it's
a
change,
but
it's
also
preserving
a
lot
of
what's
important
to
the
history
of
the
community
and
making
sure
that
our
community
remains
is
a
place,
that's
inclusive,
so
great
job
getting
it
to
to
where
it
is
today
and
I
and
I
approve.
But
I
also
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
review
review
this
here.
A
K
Okay,
just
one
quick
point
and
to
echo
what
commissioners,
Frost
and
Newman
have
said
about
the
as
being
a
moment
of
celebration
just
to
clarified
for
any
fix
for
tuning
in
I.
Think
sometimes,
when
folks
hear
the
word
condo,
it
triggers
this
association
of
it
being
a
residential
condo.
But
here
what
we're
referring
to
our
the
building
being
divided
into
technically
two
condos
one,
the
residential
side
and
one
the
commercial
side.
So
just
for
folks,
following
along
as
the
transaction,
is
progressing
on
to
make
sure
folks
understand
that
all.
L
It
was
surprising
to
me
when
brownie
and
I
toured
it
yesterday.
You
know
I'm
paid
attention
and
driving
by
how
it's
come
about,
and
but
I
had
no
idea
until
we
toured
the
building.
It
reminded
me
so
much
of
the
history
of
the
building,
because
I'm
probably
one
of
the
few
who's
old
enough
to
remember
how
it
was
years
ago
and
how
its
developed
today,
even
going
in
the
lobby,
reminded
me
of
the
time
I
was
thrown
out
of
the
pool
it
was
a
but
I
would
like
to
commend
mountain
house.
L
You
know
I
know
you
had
many
obstacles
in
making
this
happen,
but
it's
excellent.
The
facility
I
was
really
surprised
with
the
courtyard,
even
the
playground
that
will
come
because
I
didn't
know
it
would
be
kids
in
the
building
they
were
showing
where
it
will
be.
But
it's
really
to
tell
you
it
makes
me
feel
good
to
know
that
it
will
be
something
there
to
remind
us
of
the
block,
so
to
speak.
That
I
came
up
with,
but
thank
you
for
what
you've
done.
A
H
I
remember
going
I
remember
going
to
the
building
gosh
I.
Don't
it's
a
long
time
yeah!
It's
been
a
long
time,
I,
remember
seeing
it
I.
Remember
the
emotion
of
the
churches
and
all
the
community
around
it,
and
the
vision
for
the
views
and
for
being
able
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
community
and
I'd
never
been
there.
I
mean
I.
Didn't
live
that
area.
I
didn't
travel
down
that
street.
You
know
I'd
been
to
one
of
the
trying
to
remember
the
churches
near
there.
H
What
is
it?
Okay,
so
I've
visited
a
church
or
two
in
that
area.
But
you
know
it's
it's
it's
an
area
in.
If
you're,
if
you
come
to
Asheville,
you
know
your
own
Patton
Avenue,
you
come
down,
you
get
something
to
eat
you,
you
know
not.
Everybody
goes
down
in
that
area
as
far
as
driving,
but
it's
a
beautiful
area.
I
commend
you
on
the
amount
of
time
I
mean
it.
Took
you
a
long
time
to
get
it
done.
I
know
you're
excited
about
it.
H
You
know
we
had
a
lot
of
questions
throughout
the
process
to
make
sure
that
everything
was,
you
know,
being
funded
practically,
but
the
support
from
the
Commission
has
been
there
and
I'm
excited
for
you.
I'm
excited
for
the
community
and
I'm
happy
too
happy
to
support
the
vote
tonight.
Thank
you
are
you
finished.
Are
you?
Are
you
done.
M
A
R
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members,
the
board
and
good
evening
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
most
of
you
or
meet
most
of
you,
but
for
those
who
haven't,
my
name
is
Dan
Peterson
and
I'm.
Your
solid
waste
director
and
we
recently
solicited
qualifications
for
from
engineering,
salt
lace,
engineering
firms
and
the
reason
that
I'm
here
tonight
is
seeking
board
approval
to
move
forward
into
negotiations
with
the
overall
best
qualified
firm
that
submitted
to
our
RFQ.
R
There
we
go
the
the
purpose
for
advertising.
The
RFQ
is
driven
by
several
factors.
It
had
been
over
four
years
since
our
department
had
evaluated
engineering
services,
and
we
felt
like
over
that
timeframe
that
saw
there'd
been
advancements
in
solid
waste
management
technologies,
as
well
as
engineering
firm
offerings,
and
this
that
we
certainly
feel
that
we
gained
cost-effectiveness
by
contracting
with
a
single
qualified
firm
in
collaboration
and
coordination
efforts
for
engineering
tasks.
R
We
currently
have
several
multi-year
projects
and
initiatives
underway
and
only
horizon
that
require
perpetual
engineering
and
construction
and
engine
and
construction
administration
and
establishing
a
single
holistic
single
point
of
contact
for
engineering
services,
provides
efficiencies
and
communications
for
us.
In
coordinating
these,
these
very
complicated
engineering
tasks.
R
Many
of
our
engineering
needs
are
driven
by
state
and
federal
regulations.
The
we
have
annual
compliance
reports
as
well
as
construction
related
items
that
are
that
are
required
to
be
certified
by
professional
engineering
firms
such
as
regulatory
and
environmental
compliance,
submittals
applications
for
permits
to
construct
and
permits
to
operate
of
our
facilities.
R
This
statute
basically
defines
the
parameters
for
local
governments
in
selecting
engineering
services,
such
as
architectural
engineering
needs
and
and
part
of
the
part
of
those
requirements,
defines
that
firm
selection
be
based
on
demonstrated
competence
and
qualifications
and
without
regard
to
fee
other
than
general
unit
pricing
information
contract
pricing
can
only
be
negotiated
after
the
best
qualified
firm
is
determined,
and
if
negotiations
are
not
successful,
the
unit,
the
solid
waste
department
in
this
case
may
proceed
you
to
go.
She
ate
with
the
second
best
qualified,
firm
and
so
on.
R
The
RFQ
was
structured
to
solicit
competent,
qualified
engineering
firms
to
accommodate
our
specific
programmatic
needs.
We,
as
previously
mentioned,
we
advertise
purdue
north
carolina
purchasing
statutes
and
the
initial
RFQ
were
there.
Rfq
was
initially
posted
on
May
14th
of
2018,
and
we
established
a
submitted
deadline
of
June,
8
2018
and
we're
very
happy
with
the
response
that
we
received
with
seven
very
good
engineering
firm,
submitting
qualifications.
R
For
the
process
of
some
mental
evaluation,
a
selection
committee
was
formed
that
included
the
solid
waste
director,
Operations
Manager
engineering
services
manager,
transfer
station
manager
and
our
County
purchasing
manager.
Performance
management
staff
also
played
a
key
role
in
helping
helping
us
establish
or
construct
the
RFQ.
R
Several
of
the
submittal
scoring
parameters
included
appropriate
qualifications
of
key
engineering
staff,
performance,
history
and
familiarity
of
staff,
members
with
Buckham
County,
Solid,
Waste
programs
and
other
comparable
clients,
firm
resources,
experience
and
knowledge
of
municipal
solid
waste
management,
including
consulting
engineering
and
environmental
reporting.
We
also
evaluated
adequate
staff
or
staffing
capabilities
and
current
workload
of
the
proposed
consultant
team
for
our
many
department
projects.
R
Based
on
this,
the
middle
of
valuation
process,
CDM
Smith,
was
identified
as
the
overall
best
qualified
firm
for
our
specific
programmatic
needs
and
I'm
seeking
a
board
approval
tonight
to
move
forward
into
negotiations
with
CDM
Smith
and
a
little
background
on
CDM.
They
have
office
locations
in
Raleigh
and
Charlotte
have
over
28
years
of
working
relationship
with
Buncombe
County
nationally.
They
have
delivered
over
two
thousand
successful
solid
waste
projects
currently
ranked
number
eight
solid
waste
engineering
firm
by
engineering,
News,
Record
and
they're
certainly
experienced
in
all
aspects
of
solid
waste
management
and
engineering.
R
The
the
contract
timeframe,
as
described
in
the
RFQ,
establishes
a
baseline
of
a
five-year
contract
period
with
the
option
of
two
one
year.
Extensions
and
obviously
our
department
wants
to
continue
to
focus
on
fiscal
responsibility
and
accountability
and
individual
engineering
tasks
will
be
assigned
and
negotiated
on
an
as-needed
and
as
requested
basis,
and
we
are
certainly
excited
about
moving
forward
with
this
process.
Appreciate
your
time
and
attention
this
evening.
I'll
try
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
at
this
time.
I.
A
It
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
different
than
the
resolution,
so
the
title
that
we
have
here
are
states
that
you
authorize
to
go
out
and
negotiate
a
contract
for
later
or
approval
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
But
it
looks
like
if
I'm
reading
it
right,
the
resolution
actually
wouldn't
require
to
come
back
to
the
board,
I
think
the
manager
or
actually
the
chair.
If
there's
several
people
who
are
who
appear
to
be
authorized
to
actually
sign
a
contract,
so
we'll
just
come
back
to
the
board
or
we
are.
We
know
it.
N
H
E
A
Q
I'm
mark
Cathy,
with
McGill
engineers
in
Asheville,
North,
Carolina,
I,
run
the
Asheville
office
and
McGill
associates
this
process.
Obviously
mr.
Peterson
explained
the
process
and
the
process
was
exactly
per
the
general
statute.
I
concur,
but
it's
disappointing
that
we
have
an
engineering
firm
with
162
individuals
in
locating
to
Macomb.
County
worked
on
every
surrounding
County,
only
solid
waste
projects,
and
it's
it's
disappointing
that
that's
not
morpha
consideration.
Q
A
So
so
I'm
fallible
question
you
know
and
I
I'm,
certainly
not.
You
know
an
expert
on
these
state
bidding
requirements
and
things
like
that,
but
so,
as
you
outlined
in
your
presentation
of,
if
I'm
hearing
it
right,
none
of
the
none
of
the
proposal
or
decision
making
at
this
stage
of
it
is
based
on
you
know,
negotiated
rates
and
things
like
that.
It's
of
all
about
sort
of
experience
and
background,
and
and
that's
the
way
the
state
requires
us
to
go
through
the
process
at
this
point.
A
G
N
H
H
R
G
R
The
solid
waste
community
I'm
sorry,
the
committee
selection
committee-
and
we
we
included
that
information
in
RFQ,
so
the
firms
knew
exactly
what
we
were
going
to
be
evaluating
on
what
the
criteria
was.
We
were
looking
for
and
obviously
the
general
information
you
know
the
saying
is
all
trashes
local
trash
every
program
is
set
up
and
structured
differently
and
that's
all
seven
firms
are
very
capable.
We
were
looking
to
identify
the
best
overall
firm
through
this
process
that
lined
up
with
our
specific
type
of
programs.
R
You
know
a
bioreactor
landfill
system
is,
is
not
very
common.
Its
subtitle
D,
but
there's
that
there
are
certain
things
locally
that
we
you
know
we
have
to
manage
operation
wise
that
are
different
than
any
other
county
in
North
Carolina
really.
So
that
was
how
we
set
up.
The
criteria
was
based
on
our
programmatic
needs
and
also
being
able
to
evaluate
the
firms
accordingly.
In
you
know
what
was
the
best
option
for
our
programs
moving.
Excuse
me
moving
forward.
Okay
and.
H
A
R
Correct
in
its
overall
qualifications
and
competence,
and
obviously
you
know
response
time
to
the
site-
and
you
know
the
availability
of
staff
to
address
the
on
call
top
service
for
our
programs
is
that's
certainly
considered,
and
but
my
understanding
is
there
was
their
geographical
location
was
something
that
we
considered,
obviously,
but
something
that
worse
no
mandate
for
us.
Obviously,.
M
R
That's
Proxima
correct.
We
CDM
Smith
with
the
specific
nature
at
the
bioreactor
system,
still
does
semiannual
permitting
for
us,
based
on
their
their
knowledge
of
our
system.
So
there
is
a
there's,
a
perpetual
engineering
liability
there
with
the
design
systems
that
are
in
place
so
that
there
is
that
factor
they
are
the
original
design
firm
for
the
solid
waste
management
facility.
Okay,.
M
R
R
Throughout
the
country,
and
that's
what
we
want
to
just
wanted
to
focus
on
was
being
objective
and
moving
forward
with
our
program,
seeing
where
we
are.
As
far
as
with
the
C
and
D
expansions,
the
the
self
7
MSW
construction
in
the
horizon,
we
wanted
to
form
the
committee
and
basically
objectively
evaluate
what
our
options
were
and
see
what
the
best
best
options
were
moving
forward
for
us.
R
M
R
That's
correct
in
some
aspects:
they
they
obviously
helped
a
tremendous
amount
with
the
compliance
reporting
title
five
air
quality,
permitting
things
like
that
there
that
he
does
subcontract
a
portion
of
the
workload
for
engineering
services
so-
and
that
was
something
that
we
considered
with
the
RFQ
is-
is
consolidating
a
lot
of
those
efforts
to
a
single,
more
holistic
type
company
that
has
those
assets
internally.
That
basically
streamlines
our
communications.
Our
efforts
to
get
these
projects
accomplished
in
a
timely
and
efficient
manner
and.
M
I
mean
reason
why
all
this
coming
up
is
with
waste
Pro
earlier
with
the
recycling
not
going
to
China
I
mean
this
landfill
become
one
of
the
ten
priorities
of
Buncombe,
County,
I.
Think
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
There's
a
commissioner.
Here
we
are
looking
at
everything
and
not
local,
but
who
is
qualified
and
what
we
can
do
absolutely
I
appreciate
that.
A
H
N
We
toured
that
and
we
were
looking
at
the
existing
space
over
at
the
veterans
office,
and
then
we
were
looking
at
other
spaces.
They
thought
might
be
more
suitable
and
the
one
that
we
selected
is
on
the
seventh
floor
of
the
forty
Cox
Avenue
DHHS
building
and
we're
all
in
agreement
that
moving
to
that
location
gives
several
several
improvements
for
our
veterans.
One
there's
ample
parking
with
over
600
parking
spaces,
as
you
all
know,
attached
to
that
building
for
those
using
public
transportation.
The
city's
bus
transfer
station
is
literally
across
the
street.
N
As
you
come
off
the
seventh
floor
elevator,
we
would
create
a
small
lobby
area
there
and
then
call
the
clients
back
in
order
of
arrival
or
appointment
time,
and
so
that
is
a
secure
door.
It's
you
know
locked
access
people
in
on
that,
so
it
gives
more
security
to
it.
I
did
have
mr.
Smith
reach
out
to
contact
several
of
our
veterans.
Community
and
I
did
give
you
a
copy
of
the
email
from
him.
As
of
now,
we
don't
have
any
objections
to
it.
That
doesn't
mean
that
everybody
has
been
contacted
about
it.
N
A
A
That
was
very
efficient.
Thank
you
and
we
pray
and
I
appreciate
the
I
appreciate
this
being
talked
about
in
the
Commission
being
too
sometimes,
we've
had
big,
you
have
fairly
big,
reorganizations
and
I.
Think
we
we
haven't
always
done
the
best
job.
You
know
talking
it
through.
Just
making
sure
folks
know
so
appreciate,
appreciate
this
being
done
here
to
oversee
Tennessee's,
what's
being
contemplated
all
rights,
we
are
now
at
the
board
appointments,
so
I'd.
G
A
B
A
A
A
And
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
comment
may
have
three
minutes
to
speak
to
the
board.
The
board
is
not
expected
to
comment
at
this
time.
This
is
the
public's
chance
to
speak
to
us.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
board
who
would
like
to
comment
at
this
time?
Yes,
please
come
on
up
and
please
share
your
name
and
where
you
live.
C
C
Am
Lisa
Landis,
post
office
box,
1333
Bravard
287
one
two.
Some
of
you
might
remember
me
as
Glo
lady
GL,
o
la
dy.
Some
of
you
might
know
me
as
Landis
versus
Buncombe
North
Carolina
government
at
all,
I,
don't
know
how
much
money
was
spent
defending
my
allegations.
The
criminal
allegations
for
my
civil
rights,
lawsuit,
I,
wrote
pro
se
I
didn't
know
that
I
couldn't
include
criminal
allegations,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
I
have
to
remind
you
with
the
indictments
that
they
were
true
and
correct.
C
I
think
that
the
commissioners
were
willfully
blind
and
if
you
were
to
look
at
June
7th
2011
when
the
funding
was
denied
for
you,
our
TV,
the
public
access
station
that
we
had
in
North
Carolina,
we
were
silenced.
We
were
silenced
because
we
were
revealing
the
corruption
and
David
Gant
had
admitted
to
the
conspiracy
with
the
city
of
Asheville.
C
Tv
I
was
denied
them
before
and
when
I
finally
got
them,
they
were
just
one
line.
I
would
like
to
see
an
audit
of
the
equipment
that
you
have
and
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
you
have
a
fiduciary
responsibility
to
be
good.
Stewards
of
this
funding
and
I
would
suggest
refunding
public
access.
If
you
really
do
want
transparency
in
this
county
and
it's
nice
to
know
that
you
do
have
bus
vouchers.
C
But
since
the
last
time
I
was
here,
the
public
comment
is
now
at
the
end
of
the
session
and
I
wonder
how
many
are
denied,
who
are
disabled
or
elderly,
who
have
to
count
on
bus
transportation
in
order
to
make
at
home.
Are
they
able
to
rush
out
of
here
catch
a
transfer
to
catch
a
transfer
in
order
to
stand
up
here
and
to
speak?
C
A
Right
we
have
just
a
couple
of
announcements
on
August
7th
at
5:00
p.m.
the
Commissioner
is
regular
meeting
will
be
held
here
at
200,
College
Street
Street
room
three
to
six
and
on
August
14th
at
12:30
p.m.
as
previously
discussed.
The
commissioners
will
hold
a
work
session
on
our
benefits
and
health
insurance
pay
plan
for
public
employees
at
Buncombe
County.
This
will
be
held
on
the
first
floor
conference
room
at
200,
College
Street
here
in
downtown
Asheville
I,
believe
we
do
have
a
need
for
a
closed
session.
What
are
the
topics.