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From YouTube: Commissioners' Briefing (Nov. 16, 2021)
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The Briefing of the Board of Commissioners take place on the first and third Tuesday of each month at 3pm at 200 College St. before the 5pm Regular Meeting. The purpose of the Briefing is to discuss future meeting agenda items and to discuss County-related business with staff in an open, transparent manner. No official actions take place during the Briefings.
A
I'd
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
order,
let's
review
our
agenda,
real
quick
under
staff
updates
we're
going
to
get
a
coveted
update,
we're
going
to
talk
about
waste
pro
cpi
adjustment,
get
an
update
on
the
sports
park.
Community
planning,
discuss
the
skyline
transportation
service
and
appointments
to
the
industrial
facilities
and
pollution
control
financing
agency.
A
A
Could
I
have
had
just
one
question
about
it
that
maybe
we
could
talk
about
during
the
briefing
meeting
kind
of
in
preparation
for
our
evening
discussion.
If
that's
okay,
so
let
me
I'm
going
to
add
that
item.
Are
there
any
other
items
that
people
have
any
discussion
for
okay?
Well,
this
will
be
our
agenda
for
the
briefing
meeting.
Are
there
any
questions
about
any
items
on
the
agenda
for
our
meeting
this
evening
at
five.
A
B
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
recognize
that,
unfortunately,
our
current
metrics
have
not
improved
since
the
last
time.
I
saw
you
in
fact,
our
case
rate
has
increased
from
113
to
121
per
100
000
in
the
last
week,
and
overall,
as
you'll
see
on
the
next
slide,
we
are
experiencing
a
very
high
level.
Plateauing
of
our
cases.
B
B
It's
encouraging,
however,
that
our
death
rate
did
decrease
again
this
week,
bringing
our
death
rate
to
0.8
so
about
two
deaths
in
the
last
week
per
100
000
down
from
1.5
the
week
the
week
before
our
hospitalization
rates
remain
encouraging.
They
are
low
and
stable
and
have
been
for
a
few
weeks
now.
B
So
in
the
end,
the
message
today
is
that
we've
plateaued
at
a
really
high
level
of
cases.
I
am
hopeful
that
the
increase
that
we
saw
from
last
week
to
this
week
does
not
continue
into
the
next
week,
but
much
of
that
depends
on
us
and
when
I
say
that
I
know
that
folks
are
tired.
I
know
they're
really
fatigued
by
covid.
I
hear
almost
every
day
the
frustrations
from
folks
that
kovit
has
stretched
us.
B
It
has
most
certainly
exhausted
us,
and
I
think
you
know
not
that
I
like
to
humanize
a
virus,
but
that's
what
you
know
covet
covert.
19
is
hoping
that
we'll
give
up,
and
it's
hoping
that
we'll
be
quitters,
and
I'm
asking
everyone
listening
not
to
give
up
that.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
going
well
for
us,
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
those
in
a
little
bit
as
I
talk
about
our
vaccine
efforts,
but
with
the
holidays
approaching.
B
B
Remember
that
we
do
have
a
face
covering
requirement
for
indoor
public
spaces
in
our
county
a
necessary
tool
right
now,
as
we
continue
to
land
in
this
area
of
high
transmission
per
the
cdc,
and
when
added
to
our
other
efforts
like
vaccine
uptake
and
quick
identification
of
cases,
we
have
the
potential
to
stave
off
large
peaks
and
cases
through
the
holidays
and
enter
the
new
year
in
a
place
of
great
hope
in
controlling
and
managing
covet.
19.
B
Before
I
talk
about
the
case
distribution
that
we
usually
go
over,
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
leveling
off
or
that
plateauing
I
mentioned
before
the
very
far
far
right
of
that
curve.
You
can
see
that
stepwise
sort
of
pattern
that
I
mentioned
last
time
and
now
we're
seeing
just
a
leveling
off
of
that.
B
The
levels
that
we're
seeing
now
aren't
too
different
than
those
of
the
summer
2020
surge
and
the
later
stages
of
the
winter
20
20
21
surges
and
again
that's
with
the
holidays.
Yet
to
come,
but
not
much
has
changed
in
the
distribution
of
cases.
The
greatest
proportion
remains
in
our
25
to
49
year
olds,
which
has
been
consistent.
B
B
While
case
rates
have
worried
me
most
certainly
this
week
with
their
slow
change,
it's
been
the
vaccination
arm
of
our
response
and
that
I
gain
hope.
That's
where
I
gain
hope.
Right
now
that
you
can
see
here.
I
want
to
draw
some
attention
to
the
red
line
that
you
see
at
the
bottom
that
creeps
up
toward
the
end.
B
I
just
want
to
commend
our
vaccine
providers
in
our
our
community
for
that
dedicated
effort,
but
also
commend
those
families
and
those
kids
for
coming
out.
That's
almost
2
800
kiddos
that
have
become
superheroes
for
their
communities
protecting
themselves
and
helping
to
build
a
stronger
shield
around
our
community.
B
B
Many
thanks
to
those
families
who
have
joined
us
so
far,
and
we
welcome
others
to
join
us
at
upcoming
events.
I'll
talk
more
about
those
events
in
just
a
second
overall
about
65
percent
of
our
total
population
has
received
at
least
one
dose,
and
approximately
74
percent
of
the
eligible
population
has
received
at
least
one
dose
at
this
time.
B
In
that
very
first
week
we
administered
320
pediatric
doses
through
the
40
cox
location.
We
have
several
community
outreaches
scheduled.
I
call
these
the
saturdays
at
school.
They
are
also
nine
to
four.
We
just
completed
our
first
one,
which
was
november
13th
at
asheville
middle,
very
well,
attended.
B
They
have
also
added
high
schools
to
their
schedule,
so
we'll
have
december
4th
at
irwin,
where
buncombe
county
hhs
will
be
giving
vaccine,
but
also,
at
the
same
time
and
same
day,
we'll
have
roberson
high,
where
mayheck
and
fema
will
be
giving
out
vaccine
and
then
on
december
11th.
The
falcon
county
hhs
will
be
at
owen
high
and
our
partners
at
mayheck
and
fema
will
be
at
reynolds
high
and
then
there
are
also
other
vaccine
opportunities
in
our
community,
including
the
eddington
center
in
asheville
through
the
state
vendor
partner
starmed.
B
We
also
have
many
major
pharmacies
like
walgreens
cvs
ingalls,
who
are
also
providing
pediatric
doses
and
all
other
doses,
and
there
are
also
some
medical
providers
who
are
providing
that
so
most
of
the
sites
that
I
mentioned
today
are
offering
all
vaccine
types
which
is
making
it
a
great
opportunity
for
grown-ups
to
get
whatever
dose.
They
need
that
they
may
be
missing,
while
their
five
to
11
year
old
gets
their
first
dose.
B
B
B
Also,
while
vaccination
is
our
best
tool
to
prevent
illness,
if
you
do
contract,
cova-19
treatment
is
available
and
including
the
monoclonal
antibody
treatment.
It
is
available
to
those
who
have
had
symptoms
of
cova
19
for
10
days
or
less,
and
if
taken
early,
if
taken
early,
can
reduce
the
risk
of
severe
illness,
hospitalization
and
death.
So
you
can
check
out
the
covid19.ncdhhs.gov.
B
So
as
we
head
into
the
holidays,
particularly
as
this
is
the
last
time
before
thanksgiving
that
I'll
be
speaking
at
a
briefing
that
I
wanted
to
provide
folks
with
some
holiday
tips
and
recommendations,
as
you
think
about
your
thanksgiving
holiday
and
as
you
ready
yourself
and
your
family
for
thanksgiving,
please
think
about
a
few
tips
and
recommendations,
including
protect
those
not
not
yet
eligible
for
vaccination
by
getting
vaccinated
plan
events
outdoors
if
possible,
and
avoid
crowded
indoor
spaces
in
communities
with
substantial
or
high
transmission.
Should
you
be
traveling
in
communities
with
substantial
or
high
transmission?
B
B
If
you
are
sick
or
have
symptoms,
please
do
not
host
or
attend
a
gathering.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
most
important
ones,
because
this
is
a
special
time
for
families
and
it's
really
hard,
sometimes
to
say
hey.
I
can't
come,
but
this
might
be
the
very
best
decision
you
make.
If
you
have
symptoms,
please
do
not
attend
and
please
do
not
host
a
gathering.
Instead,
please
go
get
yourself
tested.
B
I
am
thankful
to
your
families
and
your
loved
ones
who
have
and
continue
to
share
you
and
your
time
with
us
as
we
have
tested
investigated,
traced,
housed
for
isolation
and
quarantine
and
continue
our
vaccination
efforts
for
our
neighbors.
I
can't
express
my
heartfelt
gratitude
enough
to
everyone,
so
thank
you,
commissioners,
for
your
time
today
in
this
presentation.
B
A
C
C
So
some
background
information
on
the
contract,
the
the
franchise
waste
collection
contract
between
buncombe
county
waste
pro
with
began
in
january
of
2020
time
flies.
Here
we
are
at
the
end
of
the
second
year
in
the
contract.
So
this
is
a
five-year
base
term
contract
with
two
two-year
extension
options
at
the
end
of
the
base
and
the
basic
service
premises
for
this
contract
is
weekly
trash
and
every
other
week.
C
F
E
Afternoon,
our
regional
vice
president,
mr
chip,
jingles
regrets
not
being
able
to
be
with
us
today,
so
I
will
do
my
best
to
fill
in
in
his
presence
absence.
Currently
we
have
subscribers
that
are
33
660
active
accounts.
Currently,
today,
some
of
that
will
fluctuate
due
to
move
in
move
outs,
some
seasonal
changes
that
take
place
as
well
as
some
non-payments
customer
service.
E
Some
of
the
things
that
we
are
constantly
doing
is
trying
to
add
additional
agents
to
be
able
to
handle
the
calls
that
are
coming
in
currently
today,
we're
answering
approximately
98
of
those
calls
by
an
actual
agent.
They
are
not
going
to
a
voicemail
some
of
the
communication
that
we
do
to
our
subscribers.
E
E
E
Excuse
me,
thank
you,
increased
investments
in
our
employees,
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
to
try
to
keep
up
with
labor
demand.
That's
in
the
area
is
that
we
changed
our
payroll
conversion
from
a
day
rate
pay
to
an
hourly
pay.
So
with
that,
we
saw
approximately
a
50
percent
increase
in
cost
for
our
labor.
E
Some
of
those
challenges,
obviously
that
we
are
experiencing
we're
trying
to
consistently
and
continually
recruit
new
drivers,
bringing
them
on
board
such
as
offering
a
referral
program
of
two
thousand
dollars
and
then
sign
on
bonuses
of
thirty
five
hundred
dollars
to
bring
on
those
new
employees
benefits
that
we
are
offering
to
buncombe
county.
We
are
bringing
in
approximately
10
employees
from
our
greater
charlotte
area
to
make
sure
that
we
are
providing
the
service
that
you
guys
are
expecting
as
well
as
the
customers.
E
We
have
also
added
two
new
split
body
trucks
to
the
area
to
be
able
to
help
provide
some
additional
services
as
needed
here,
and
then
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
do
remind
you.
One
of
the
benefits
that
we
had
done
is
during
the
cover
time
we
were
picking
up
additional
material
outside
the
cart
with
everyone
being
at
home
working
from
home.
Obviously
there
was
the
production
of
more
material,
so
we
weren't
asking
for
it
to
be
just
in
the
cart,
so
we
were
actually
getting
out
to
collect
that.
E
With
regard
to
the
cpi
increases,
as
dane
mentioned,
there
was
not
an
increase
allowed
in
the
first
year
of
the
contract
we
are
entering
into
year
two,
so
that
is
the
6.9
increase
that
we
have
sent.
The
information
over
for
the
cpi
increase
will
be
for
the
remainder
of
the
contract
term,
and
that
will
be
each
year
that
would
be
based
on
the
october
cpi
information,
that's
with
the
bureau
of
labor
and
statistics,
and
there
should
have
been
a
document
supporting
that.
That
was
attached
to
the
request.
E
A
A
F
Good
deal
just
a
few
slides
to
get
us
through
today,
and
I
think
for
this
discussion
really
want
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
feedback
we've
heard
from
the
community
and
then
provide
an
open
opportunity
for
the
commission
to
kind
of
provide
some
input
to
us
as
we
move
forward.
So
today,
we'll
recap
do
an
overview
of
the
listening
sessions
and
then
a
request
from
y'all
for
discussion.
F
F
What
we
provided
here
on
this
slide
is
just
a
few
summary
themes
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we're
hearing,
but
on
the
subsequent
slides
we
provided
all
the
comments.
The
reason
we're
providing
a
summary
is
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
of
what
we're
hearing,
but
you
can
read
through
the
comments-
and
this
is
available
on
our
website
for
the
public,
if
they'd
like
to
to
read
those
specific
comments
as
well,
so
in
general,
summary
themes,
additional
transparency
needed
in
the
usage
request
process.
F
F
You
know
we
don't
have
10
years
of
field
usage
requests
that
we
can
just
pull
up
and
sort
of
audit
quickly,
and
then
you
know
in
general,
a
need
for
additional
field
space
and
as
well
as
the
better
utilization
of
existing
field
space.
And
so
I
don't
think
this
is
a
surprise
to
us.
We
know
that
field
space
in
the
county
is
has
always
been
limited,
sometimes
related
to
flooding
other
times
just
related
to
having
enough
fields
period.
F
Better
utilization
of
the
existing
field.
Space,
I
think,
is
an
ongoing
question
as
well
and
that's
why
this
board,
in
partnership
with
the
tda
and
others,
is
pursuing
putting
turf
into
place
at
the
buncombe
county
sports
park,
because
that'll
increase
the
number
of
playable
hours
on
those
fields,
as
well
as
the
introduction
of
lighting
which
would
allow
for
additional
playable
hours
in
the
evening.
F
F
So
you
can
see
here
22
comments,
echoing
many
of
the
themes
that
I've
already
sort
of
shared
with
you,
but
please
feel
free
to
take
a
look
to
see
the
individual
comments
and
the
organizations
that
are
commenting
and
providing
feedback
similar
on
november,
2nd
again,
a
lot
of
comments.
I
knew
impossible
to
read
on
your
screen,
but
I
wanted
to
get
the
comments
to
you.
F
So
in
terms
of
the
requests
and
next
steps,
you
know
I
would
love
to
hear
from
commission
today
on
any
thoughts
you
you
have
related
to
the
sports
park.
Rfp
anything
you've
been
hearing
in
the
community
that
you'd
like
to
share
and
we'll
take
that
input
and
continue
to
move
forward,
as
we
do
our
assessment
of
best
practices
as
well
as
kind
of
what
we're
currently
doing,
understanding
costs
the
process
etc.
F
G
You
know
dealing
with
the
kids
and
whatever,
but
would
we
have
more
control
over
it
if
we
were
doing
it
in
the
house
and
to
make
sure
that
it's
you
know
that
everything
is
done.
The
way
it
should
be
done,
not
saying
it's
not,
but
I'm
just
wondering,
would
we
have
more
control
and
would
it
be
better
for
the
county.
F
A
It's
not
just
cost
right,
I
mean
like,
and
I'm
not
an
expert
on
this.
So
if
I
say
something
wrong,
it's
totally
fine
to
be
like
no,
that's
just
not
right
but
like.
If,
if
we
were
managing
it,
ourself
yeah,
there
would
be
all
these
costs,
but
right
now,
abyssa
doesn't
pay
for
the
fields
right
as
the
biggest
user.
They
that's
that's
their
benefit
right.
A
F
A
When
you
look
around
the
like
around
north
carolina,
is
one
of
these
models
more
a
lot
more
common
than
the
other?
Is
it
that,
like
the
the
largest
kind
of
league
of
whatever
kind,
is
typically
also
in
the
management
business,
whereas,
like
the
kind
of
the
internal
maintenance
management?
Is
one
of
these
a
lot
more
predominant
than
the
other.
F
A
F
H
A
I
This
is
really
helpful
and
just
just
kind
of
flagging,
something
that
I
think
is
sort
of
alluded
to
in
the
slides
is
it
feels
like
this
is
sort
of
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
really
get
our
head
around
the
scope
of
the
needs
and
understand
that
buncombe
county
sports
park
can
address
some
of
those
needs,
but
it's.
It
certainly
seems
that,
as
our
community
has
grown
so
too
have
our
needs
around
access
to
fields
and
recreational
facilities.
I
So
I
think
understanding
that
understanding
what's
specific
to
the
sports
park
and
the
need
that
that
facility
can
address,
but
also
as
much
as
we
can
understand
about
the
need
that
exceeds
that
or
could
never
be
fully
or
appropriately
addressed
by
the
sports
park
would
be
really
helpful.
Just
as
we're
thinking
about
this
kind
of
at
the
in
a
more
longitudinal
way.
F
That's
a
great
point,
commissioner,
and
our
sports
commission,
who
is
a
partner
with
us
they've
done
an
assessment
of
you,
know
basically,
field
usage
and
think
of
field
broader
than
soccer
baseball,
or
anything
like
that.
You
know
indoors
as
well,
and
you
know
one
of
the
remaining
top
needs
for
us
continues
to
be
soccer
as
an
example,
but
there's
others
as
well.
We
can
bring
that
existing
analysis
to
bear
as
well
so.
J
I'd
just
like
to
add,
I
think
it's
really
great
that
we're
looking
at
this
and
it's
very
especially
the
transparency
and
all
that
reading
through
the
comments
I
do
just
want
to
acknowledge.
That
seems,
like
everyone
agrees
that
spoke
to
this,
in
the
comments
that
ap
ysa
has
been
doing
a
good
job
of
taking
care
of
the
fields
and
that
they're
in
the
best
shape
they
have
been.
So.
F
Moving
forward
is
working
with
some
of
these
organizations
as
well
to
really
understand
you
know,
what's
going
well,
what's
not,
and
so
that
that
includes
abyssa,
who
currently
has
the
usage
agreement,
but
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
organizations,
maybe
that
have
concerns,
and
so
we're
actively
moving
that
just
to
understand,
you
know
once
we
get
out
of
you
know
public
comment
meetings,
you
know
what
what
are
the
things
that
we
can
work
on
together
to
best
utilize
and
ultimately
have
the
best
youth
sports.
We
can
so.
D
D
So
it's
a
very
large
district
that
we're
responsible
now
to
provide
coverage
for
by
statute.
The
county
is
ultimately
responsible
for
providing
those
transports
in
that
area.
In
the
call
volume
in
that
area
is
high
enough
that
we
need
to
position
a
new
truck
in
that
area
to
continue
to
meet
the
demand
of
the
community.
D
So
as
part
of
this
skyline
has
agreed
to
transfer
ownership
of
one
of
their
ambulances
to
us.
Along
with
our
stretcher
system,
the
stair
chair
for
patient
movement
and
a
cardiac
monitor,
we
would
equip
it
the
rest
of
the
way
with
our
standard
equipment
to
make
sure
we
have
a
equipment
that
our
our
crews
are
used
to
using.
D
They
also
have
agreed
the
house
on
the
new
unit
that
we
will
staff
in
in
their
station,
giving
us
bay
space
for
the
unit
as
well
as
living
quarters
for
our
crew,
both
at
their
main
station
at
miller,
road
and
also
continue
to
provide
a
space
at
their
station.
Four
on
valley
springs
road,
which
is
the
entrance
to
the
rambles,
where
we
currently
have
an
ems
unit
stationed
as
part
of
our
south
asheville
response
district
with
that.
D
So
in
order
to
keep
that
seamless
transition,
we
will
staff
that
truck
24
hours
a
day
seven
days
a
week.
Our
transitional
plan
is
to
reap
reallocate
our
staffing
and
make
sure
at
least
one
paramedic
is
assigned
full-time
to
that.
That
truck
for
all
three
shifts,
then
we'll
begin
hiring
our
24-hour
staff
a
priority
to
bring
our
staffing
back
up
to
meet
the
the
current
demands.
D
For
that
we
will
be
using
some
of
the
positions
that
were
approved
two
weeks
ago
as
part
of
the
peak
unit
transition
that
we
had
proposed,
but
we
will
be
requesting
additional
positions.
The
the
cover
of
this
truck
was
part
of
the
fy
23
budget,
but
this
is
a
high
demand
area.
They
run
over
2
000
anywhere
from
2
2
400
calls
per
year,
which
is
the
call
volume
of
one
of
our
full-time
trucks,
and
so
we
need
to
have
a
full-time,
24-hour
truck
in
this
area
as
quickly
as
possible
to
maintain
service.
D
So,
as
we
begin
this
transition
over
the
next
month
and
a
half,
we
will
be
getting
things
in
place.
We're
already
starting
to
look
at
our
response
plans,
which
is
the
map
that
you
saw
on
there,
where
we
identify
response
priorities
into
the
areas
to
make
sure
that
we
have
adequate
unit
coverage
that
we're
responding
timely
with
the
correct
units
using
both
buncombe
county
ems
units,
as
well
as
our
partner
fire
department.
D
Ambulances
that
continue
to
operate
around
that
district
and
also
help
cover
us
in
other
areas
of
the
county.
Along
with
that
we'll
be
purchasing
equipment,
they'll
provide
us
bed
frames
we'll
need
to
buy.
You
know
living
quarters
materials,
so
mattresses
box
springs,
cabinets
and
stuff
to
put
our
supplies
and
things
to
we'll
be
doing
that
over
the
next
month
and
a
half
everything
pre-positioned
for
january
first,
and
so
that,
basically
now
that
saturday
morning,
our
crews
will
walk
in
with
an
ambulance
and
take
over
response
responsibility
for
that.
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
the
update
commissioners.
Are
there
any
questions
all
right?
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
all
right
and
the
last
item
listed
on
the
agenda
before
we
get
to
the
homeowner
grant
question
I
had
is
the
appointments
to
the
industrial
facilities
and
pollution
control
financing
agency.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
commissioners.
I
come
before
you
today
in
my
capacity
as
a
commissioner
secretary
and
attorney
for
the
industrial
facilities,
pollution
control,
financing
authority
and
max
if
you
could
bring
up
what
we
got
so
this
board
has
been
in
place
for
a
good
long
while,
as
you
can
see
since
1976,
it's
a
creature
of
statute,
chapter
159
it
it.
It
is
an
instrument
for
conduit
financing
and
issues
bonds.
With
the
permission
of
this
board
for
various
projects
in
the
county.
K
The
thing
about
this
authority
is
that
it
rarely
meets
back
in
the
70s
and
80s
there's
many
meetings
where
they've
met
regularly
and
often
and
issued
bonds.
It's
fallen
out
of
favor,
but
remains
in
the
back
pocket
of
bond
council
around
the
state,
so
last
met
in
2018.
It's
authorized
to
have
seven
members.
We
currently
just
have
three.
So
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
one,
thank
you.
K
So
the
reason
that
we
need
this
meeting
is
that
as
indicating
number
two,
the
libor
index,
which
is
the
benchmark
for
what
banks
charge
each
other
for
interest
rates
for
short-term
loans,
is
going
away
at
the
end
of
this
year.
We
just
learned
that
yesterday,
so
the
the
impetus
here
is
that
we
don't
really
have
time
for
the
board
to
go
through
its
normal
process
of
enter
of
applications
and
interviewing
for
positions
on
this
authority.
K
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
ask
at
this
board
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
one
max
that
this
board
go
ahead
and
appoint
real
point.
Three
of
us
as
members
and
I've
drafted
don
warren
finance,
director
and
john
hudson
from
budget
to
fill
in
the
seats
to
make
us
have
a
quorum
and
then
to
moving
forward.
Just
have
the
clerk's
office
go
ahead
and
routinely
solicit
and
take
applications
for
appointment
for
the
sport.
You'd
think
that
this
authority
didn't
really
even
need
to
exist
because
it
meets
so
seldom.
K
But
as
indicated
on
the
previous
slide
that
the
ingalls
bonds
for
the
99
million
dollars
when
they
expanded
the
warehouse
go
to
the
year
2036.,
so
there's
going
to
be
need
for
some
other
index
might
go
away.
Some
other
refinancing
might
appear
and
they're
while
they're
redoing
the
documents
for
the
libor
index,
replacement
they're
also
going
to
go
ahead
and
basically
refinance
and
extend
the
term
for
a
couple
years.
So
it's
a
thing:
that's
going
to
be
hit
and
miss
for
a
long
time,
but
it's
just
never
going
to
be
a
board
that
regularly
meets.
A
A
I
envisioned
that
for
the
folks
who
meet
the
criteria
which
we
had
to
you
know,
we
created
these
criteria
that
they
would
and
it's
based
on
80
ami.
I
believe
that
if
they
meet
those
criteria
and
the
residency
requirement
for
home
ownership
that
they
would
qualify
for
the
grant,
so
as
I
understand
it
as
we're
administering
the
program,
if
someone
does
meet
the
criteria,
we
then
also
subsequently
ask
them
to
kind
of
show
some
kind
of
expenses
right
and
then
we
in
essence,
I
guess
this
is
my
question.
A
We
reimburse
them
for
that
expense
or
we
provide
them
some
funding
to
cover
that
expense
and,
as
I
was
envisioning
it
when
we
were
doing
this
new
policy,
it
would
be
there
would
not
be
that
additional
step.
Basically,
if
the
homeowners
show
like
I
own
this
property,
I
meet
the
income
criteria
but
in
essence
they
qualify
for
it
and
they
would
get
this
grant
from
the
county
to
help
with
the
you
know:
basic
affordability
of
living
in
our
great
community.
A
So
but
I'm
not
sure
we
got
into
that
level
of
detail.
It
may
have
been
just
sort
of
an
assumption
I
had,
but
I
wanted
to
just
raise
the
question,
because
I've
heard
some
comments
from
some
other
commissioners
that
they
also
weren't
envisioning,
that
additional
steps.
I
just
thought
it'd
be
an
opportunity
for
us
to
kind
of
talk
that
through
since
we're
going
to
be
discussing
it
this
this
evening.
A
So
do
any
other
commissioners
just
have
any
kind
of
observations
on
that,
because
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
others
if
I'm
kind
of
alone
in
this
or
more
or
there's
not
it's,
not
a
question,
that's
shared
by
by
others.
But
it's
the
question.
I
have
clear
or
other
folks
or
other
folks
wondering
about
this
too,
as
it
got
deployed.
J
It's
been
a
while,
since
we
discussed
that,
but
I
was
thinking
that
they
had
to
pay,
they
were
never
given
the
money
directly
to
people
that
they
were
having
to
pay
some
sort
of
bill,
someone
as
whether
right
that
it
had
to
be
applied
around
something
with
housing,
so
my
understanding
was
for
them
to
be
able
to
do
that
they
would
have
to
have
some
type
of
documentation.
I
would
think
that
was.
A
A
And
why
do
we-
and
I
understand,
maybe
part
of
why
we
do
it?
That
way,
is
that's
how
we
do
some
other
provisions
of
support
to
residents,
for
you
know
through
other
programs.
So
is
it?
Is
it
because
that
is
the
way
that
some
of
our
other
programs
are
administered
or
is
there
a
legal
reason
why
it
must
be
that
way
as
opposed
to
hey
look,
you
know,
look
if
you
only
make
80
or
less
of
area
of
meeting
income
in
our
community.
A
I
guarantee
you
like
there's
no
like
it's
not
like
a
question
of.
Do
you
have
expenses
that
it
cost
you
to
live
here?
Of
course
you
do
so.
My
concern
is
like
we're,
adding
this
additional
step,
and
perhaps
you
know
making
it
a
bit
more
bureaucratic
than
it
needs
to
be
when
nobody
in
that
income
group
in
our
community
doesn't
have
these
expenses
so,
but
is
there
a
legal
reason
why
it
must
be
done
that
way,
michael
or
can
we
can
we
look
at.
K
Other
there
is,
mr
chairman,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
what
philip
and
his
his
program
do
day
in
day
out,
but
the
program
has
to
be
treated
like
any
other
social
services
safety
net
program,
so
to
keep
it
in
line
with
with
that.
With
that
spirit
and
intent,
that's
the
way
it
was
developed.
K
Otherwise
I
mean
there's
there's
constitutional
problems
with
potentially
someone
saying
that
we're
giving
gifts
or
giving
money
away
and
that's
against
the
constitution,
and
there's
just
no
way
to
do
that.
But
if
it's,
it
is
a
social
services
program,
limited
in
scope
and
limited,
and
it's
in
its
effectiveness.
So
it's
meant
to
fill
in
the
gaps
where
all
the
other
social
services
programs
that
are
over
there
might
miss.
H
And
it's
really
not
a
next
step,
but
we
can
have
to
walk
you
through
that
when
they
come
in
and
do
that.
Is
that
then
there's
an
upfront
conversation
so
once
you
qualify
for
it,
you're
shown
that
you
have
a
home,
there's
a
homeowner's
grant,
so
you
already
have
that,
and
so
it's
not
the
second
step
that
they
have
to
come
back
and
see.
H
I
I
I
yes,
in
that
regard,
it
actually
gives
agency
to
the
recipient
versus
and
and
what
it
to
make
a
selection
of
saying.
This
is
the
one
that's
the
hardest
right
now
or
the
top
priority
and
automates
the
payment
on
that.
Essentially,
so
it's
sort
of
like
saying
you
qualify
for
x
amount.
Where
do
you
want
it
to
go?
Okay,
we'll
make
that
I
mean.
I
A
I
I
don't,
I
don't
know
if
it's
reducing,
I
don't
know,
that's
a
that's
one
potential
question
is
yeah.
Would
it
discourage
some
people
from
doing
it,
because
it
sounds
like
a
big
headache?
You
know
I
got
to
go,
find
some
bill
or
something
to
do
this.
Is
it
more
complicated
that
way?
Does
it
create
more
burden
on
us
to
administer
it.
A
K
I
I
honestly
don't
know,
but
I
I
was
just
going
to
make
one
comment.
I
know
that
philip
and
his
group
work
real
hard
if
you
come
in
to
apply
for
social
service
program
or
some
benefit
or
some
grant
of
some
form.
If
you
don't
fit
that
one,
then
they
their
staff
works
hard
to
find
one
that
you
would
be
eligible
for
so
I
mean
they.
They
work
to
fill
that
and
steer
them
in
the
right
direction
to
get
the
maximum
benefit
that
they're
eligible
for.
A
So
so,
if
we
could
ask
philip
to
just
be
prepared,
you
kind
of
hear
the
question
so
philip
could
be
prepared
to
speak
to
that,
and
I
am
glad
to
hear
that
they
can
just
apply
it
to
the
taxes,
because
maybe
that
creates
a
really
simple
way
in
a
way.
It
is
functioning
really
close
to
maybe
more
of
what.
How
I
was
envisioning
at
the
beginning
of
people.
Do
have
that
simple,
because
everyone's
most
most
everyone's
taxes
will
exceed
that
amount
right.