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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting Jan. 15, 2019
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This is the regular meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for Jan. 15, 2019. Find the agenda for tonight's meeting and others at buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
Again,
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
for
our
County
Commissioner
meeting
this
evening
between
now
and
our
next
County
Commissioner
meeting
our
community
here
in
Asheville
in
Buncombe
County
and
in
North
Carolina
in
our
country,
we'll
be
celebrating
them
the
dr.
Martin
Luther
King
jr.
Day,
which
is
recognized
on
Monday
January
21st.
A
The
stay
has
been
set
aside
by
the
state
of
North
Carolina
and
the
United
States
Congress
to
recognize
a
man
who
changed
our
country.
Dr.
Martin,
Luther,
King,
jr.
dedicated
his
life
to
tearing
down
walls
of
segregation
into
the
advancement
of
equal
rights
for
all.
He
helped
America
become
a
better
nation.
By
confronting
our
country's
legacy
of
slavery
and
discrimination,
he
carried
out
his
work,
not
by
appeals
to
anger
or
calls
for
revenge,
but
through
an
unwavering
commitment
to
reconciliation,
peace
and
non-violence,
all
of
which
were
inspired
by
his
deep
Christian
faith.
A
Before
we
begin
our
meeting
this
evening,
let
us
hold
us,
have
a
moment
of
silence
for
prayer
and
reflection
on
the
life
and
legacy
of
dr.
Martin,
Luther,
King
jr.,
and
of
all
the
men
and
women
in
our
country
who
have
fought
for
and
sacrificed
the
advancement
of
equality
and
justice
for
all.
Please
join
us
in
a
moment
of
silence.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
We've
got
a
couple
of
announcements.
I
want
to
announce
that
for
any
folks
who
are
attending
the
County
Commission
meeting
this
evening,
who
used
the
county,
parking
facilities
or
public
transport
public
transportation
to
come
to
the
meeting,
you
can
get
validation
for
your
parking
or
transit
from
the
officers
who
are
here
at
the
meeting
this
evening.
So
we
want
to
make
it
easier
for
folks
to
travel
to
the
meeting
and
attend
the
meetings
have
please
feel
free
to
talk
to
them,
about
getting
validation
for
parking
or
transit.
A
I
want
to
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
county
commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office
and
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
A
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
would
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board
member
and
does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board?
Today,
there
being
none
all
board,
members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
all
matters
voted
on
by
the
County
Commission
this
evening.
A
B
A
Alright
and
we
come
to
the
East
Haven
apartments
presentation-
and
we
have
several
folks
from
Mountain
housing
opportunities
who
are
here
with
us
this
evening
to
talk
about
this
project
and
where
things
are
at
in
the
planning
process,
and
there
is
a
financial
request
to
the
county
as
part
of
this.
So
we're
gonna
hear
the
presentation
tonight
and
we'll
have
a
chance
to
have
some
discussion
about
it
and
discuss
the
next
steps.
After
that,
great.
C
Thank
you
so
much
chairman,
Newman
and
I
hope
I
can
operate
the
technology
correctly
tonight.
I
am
Cindy
weeks
with
Mountain
housing
opportunities
and
I.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
speak
to
you
tonight
about
East
Haven
apartments,
which
is
a
95
unit
apartment
complex.
It
housing
opportunities
wishes
to
construct
in
Swannanoa,
and
this
evening
we
are
making
our
formal
request
for
2.2
million
dollars
as
a
loan
to
this
project.
To
complement
the
fourteen
point,
six
million
dollars
that
we've
already
raised
for
the
project.
Total
cost
are
sixteen
point.
C
Eight
million
this
loan
that
we're
requesting
tonight
would
be
a
lien
against
the
property.
Similarly
to
all
the
large
financial
investments
that
the
county
has
made
in
our
other
projects,
notably
Larchmont
apartments,
Eagle,
Marketplace
and
Glen
Locke,
and
the
loan
terms
are
varying
for
those
generally
they're
a
deferred
loan
with
an
interest
rate
of
2%
that
at
the
end
of
20
years,
becomes
do
so
with
that.
C
East
Haven
is
located
on
highway
70
right
near
the
Ingles,
supermarket.
It's
close
to
the
beacon
site.
There's
a
lot
of
services
out
there,
a
post
office,
CVS
pharmacy,
a
mission,
outpatient
facility
and
schools.
There
will
be
a
bus
stop
for
the
city,
bus
line
that
runs
between
Mountain
and
Asheville
right
in
front
of
our
complex.
C
And
it's
interesting
that
in
oliver
Buncombe
County
there's
been
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
constructed,
except
in
the
Swannanoa
Valley
and
the
last
permanently
affordable
rental
housing
that
was
constructed
in
the
Swannanoa
Valley
was
Blue
Ridge
Apartments
on
Blue
Ridge,
Road
right
outside
of
Black
Mountain.
Those
are
senior
apartments
only
and
then
prior
to
that
was
the
genesis,
apartments
in
the
town
of
Black
Mountain
up
off
of
North,
Fork
Road
and
that's
a
family
complex
and
that
was
constructed
by
the
sobel
family
in
1980.
C
This
is
our
timeline
just
to
go
over
this.
We
started
planning
this
in
2014
and
we
plant.
We
kicked
it
off
with
a
Charette
both
with
the
Buncombe
County
planning
staff
and
friends
and
neighbors
of
Swannanoa,
the
fans
group
out
there.
We
held
it
at
the
Grove
ma
Buncombe
County
Library,
and
it
was
a
really
big
success.
We
went
through
and
tried
to
figure
out
what
kind
of
complex
we
wanted
to
build.
C
So
our
site
was
a
good
site
to
do
that,
so
we
met
with
planning
staff
and
talked
about
that
and
East
Haven
was
actually
the
first
I
think
it's
still
the
only
development
complex
that
was
approved
under
the
community
oriented
development
and
through
that
there's
different
criteria.
We
were
able
to
increase
from
sixty
units
to
95
units,
so
that
was
a
game-changer
for
us.
So
in
2017
we
applied
for
tax
credits
again
and
we
were
awarded
credits
and
in
2018
we
raised
some
additional
funds
that
we
needed
to
complete
our
financing
package.
C
Most
notably
1.35
million
through
the
state
is
HP
program,
which
is
a
special
needs
housing
program,
and
then
we
have
a
Federal
Home,
Loan,
Bank
award
of
$500,000
and
that's
a
very
competitive
grant.
So
if
you
look
in
the
on
the
green
area
at
the
bottom,
if
we
can
have
these
funds
approved
of
2.2
million
and
I,
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
be
approved
today
or
at
the
next
meeting,
but
either
way
we'd
like
to
start.
C
Here's
this
is
a
summary
of
the
units
that
we're
building
the
size
and
the
rent
rates.
If
you
look
at
in
a
little
blue
chart
we're
building
31
one-bedroom
units,
47,
two-bedroom
and
17
three-bedroom,
the
square
footages
are
listed
there
as
well
as
the
rents.
The
rents
come
at
three
levels.
We
have
rents
for
people
that
are
thirty
percent
of
area
median
income
and
below.
We
have
rents
for
people
that
are
50
percent
of
ami
and
below
and
at
sixty
either
way
almost
every
job
in
Buncombe
County.
That
is
a
laborer
type
job.
C
We
did
a
little
research
on
the
jobs
in
the
Swannanoa
Valley
and
they're,
actually
over
9,000
jobs
located
within
four
miles
of
our
East
Haven
site
and
of
these
9,000
jobs.
Almost
6,000
of
the
individuals
holding
those
jobs
will
qualify
for
an
apartment
at
East
Haven
and
of
all
those
jobs
over
2,000.
The
folks
are
making
less
than
15,000
a
year
and
then
another
almost
four
thousand
are
making
between
15,000
a
year.
In
about
thirty.
Six
thousand
a
year,
we're
also
going
to
reserve
ten
units
at
East
Haven
for
veterans.
C
And
finally,
this
is
my
last
slide
in
meeting
with
the
commissioners
and
especially
with
Commissioner
Belcher.
We
had
some
really
I
think
detailed
discussions
about
the
fact
that
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
lot
of
these
residents
that
are
renting
moving
to
homeownership
and
in
fact,
MHO
has
been
doing
this
for
our
entire
30-year
existence.
Our
very
first
rental
complex
we
built
in
Rock
Creek.
It
was
only
ten
units
and
we
started
a
homeownership
program
there.
We
matched
folks
savings
and
they
saved
and
moved
out
into
homes
on
their
own.
C
But
we're
doing
this
at
all
of
our
apartment
complexes
throughout
the
county
on
any
is
some
of
you
know.
Mountain
housing
opportunities
has
this
self-help
housing
program
where
the
residents
actually
build
their
homes
themselves
and
a
lot
of
the
folks
that
go
into
that
program
are
former
tenants
at
our
apartment
complexes.
C
We've
already
constructed
fifteen
self-help
houses
in
Black,
Mountain
and
another
14
in
Swannanoa,
and
just
last
week
we
got
a
option
on
a
property
less
than
two
miles
from
the
East
Haven
site,
where
we
could
build
another
16
homes
for
home
ownership.
So
we're
kind
of
excited
about
that
because,
as
we
put
together
this
path
to
equity
program,
that
would
not
just
serve
our
residents
at
East
Haven,
but
also
residents
of
the
entire
Swannanoa
Valley,
there
will
be
actual
opportunities
for
them
to
build
and
purchase
a
home.
C
So
that
concludes
my
presentation.
We're
very
appreciative
of
the
board
of
commissioners.
We've
been
working
with
you
all
and
your
predecessors
for
over
30
years
now
and
been
very
grateful
to
receive
a
lot
of
funding
for
our
various
programs
over
those
years
and
I
want
to
continue
our
collaboration
with
you,
with
East
Haven,
in
providing
these
ninety
five
homes
to
folks
in
the
Swannanoa
Valley.
So
with
that
I
answer
any
questions
or
any
comments.
C
C
D
Will
be
the
last
one
that
we
discuss
in
Buncombe
County,
because
the
need
is
great.
I
do
believe
that
people
need
a
you
know,
a
path
to
independence,
for
those
that
choose
it
and
homeownership
is
a
way
to
do
that.
I!
Don't
think
that
anything
that
we
build,
or
we
support
sure
that
people
should
be
believe
that
they
have
to
be
held
to
staying
there
or
living
there.
D
You
know
their
entire
life
if
they
aspire
to
stay
there,
that's
fine
if
they
want
to
move
or
they
want
to
grow
or
I,
think
there
should
be
programs
available
to
them
and
I
think
that
if
it's
your,
if
it's
your
community,
complex
or
whatever,
then
I
think
y'all
should
and
could
be
a
vital
part
of
making
sure
that
they
are
connected
to
people
that
can
teach
them
and
help
them
understand
what
it
what
it
could
be
to
become
a
homeowner.
Yes,.
D
D
If
they
choose
to
do
that,
that's
great,
but
if
not
I,
think
they
need
a
path
of,
as
you
said,
a
path
to
equity
or
independence,
a
way
to
be
able
to
to
do
that
and
I'm
more
supportive
of
things
that
come
to
the
Commission
that
that
do
that,
and
so,
but
I,
but
I
also
wanted
to
ask
if
y'all
would
entertain
other
ways
to
structure
these
just
because
we've
done
them
in
the
past.
A
certain
way
doesn't
mean
that
we
need
to
do
that
going
forward.
Absolutely.
C
On
this
one,
the
way
our
performer
is
working
right
now,
this
would
need
to
be
like
the
one
you
did
at
Eagle
market,
where
it
was
structured
at
a
2%
accruing
interest
loan,
but
no
payments
of
principal
interest
for
that
first
20
years.
We
just
don't
have
the
cash
flow
on
this,
because
when
we
acquired
the
is
HP
funds
from
the
state
and
also
the
Federal
Home
Loan
Bank,
we
had
to
actually
lower
our
rents
on
the
complex.
C
So
it's
a
good
thing
and
that
we're
going
to
be
serving
a
lot
more
lower-income
people,
but
it
doesn't
generate
enough
cash
flow
to
make
a
payment
on
that
loan.
But
I
agree
with
you
I
think
in
the
future.
If,
when
the
county
is
working
with
us
or
any
other
tax
credit
developer,
we
should
come
in
on
the
front
end
and
start
planning.
There's
not
really
right.
C
Now,
a
lot
of
policies
or
procedures
for
putting
these
loans
into
place,
but
we'd
be
happy
to
discuss
that
in
the
future
and
going
back
to
your
comments,
Commissioner
Belcher,
about
this
effort
at
the
path
to
equity.
Even
though
MHL
we,
thirty
years
ago,
we
did
put
in
place
a
very
active,
we
even
ran
a
homeownership
program
in
our
own
organization.
Since
then,
we've
worked
with
on
track
financial
counseling
to
work
with
us
on
that.
C
But
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
differently
at
East
Haven
is
we're
going
to
actually
hold
clearly
meetings
for
our
residents
and
members
of
the
community
and
an
ongoing
basis
to
make
these
available.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
just
referring
them
over
to
on
track,
but
actually
bringing
these
services
to
the
Swannanoa
Valley
I.
F
C
Well,
we
work
with
all
the
community
partners.
We
work
with
the
Housing
Authority,
with
ABC
cm
with
actually
the
VA
we've
even
had
place
amidst
directly
from
the
VA,
when
veterans
have
the
Vash
vouchers,
which
is
basically
a
section
8
voucher
for
veterans.
So
we
we
are
very
welcoming
to
veterans.
We
have
quite
a
number
of
veterans
at
all
of
our
complexes.
We
will
have
no
trouble,
locating
them.
G
C
What
we
do
is
usually
two
or
three
months
in
advance
of
completing
the
development
we
start
taking
names
on
a
first-come,
first-served
basis.
But,
frankly,
honestly
after
this
is
in
the
media
today-
and
it
was
in
a
newspaper,
we'll
start
getting
calls
and
we
keep
track
of
all
those
calls.
And
then,
when
we
get
closer
to
completing
the
development,
then
our
staff
and
our
management
staff
will
call
each
and
every
one
of
those
applicants
back
and
set
up
an
interview
process
for
them.
C
They'll
fill
out
the
application
with
them
one
on
one
and
work
them
through
the
different
procedures
to
get
you
know
all
their
criteria
together
to
get
into
the
complex
at
Eagle
market.
As
you
all
know,
it
was
very
delayed
and
one
of
our
first
residents
when
we
called
him
back
to
say
he
had
called
I
mean
like
five
years
before
that,
and
we
said
we
were
ready
to
to
lease.
He
said:
I
thought
you
all
had
forgotten
about
me
and
we
said
no,
we
don't
forget
about
anybody.
H
Knowing
that
Dana
Market
Street,
it's
not
equal
markers
Street
was
a
disaster.
Anyway,
you
want
to
look
at
it.
Okay,
I
said
it
before
you
started
it
and
I
said
it
in
the
middle
of
it,
but
the
problem
with
that.
Yes,
the
city,
they
did
one
room
with
one
sword
with
one
water
that
didn't
have
basically
any
lighting
in
any
carpet
to
give
it
a
CEO
so
that
y'all
could
click
money
on
that
deal.
H
City
was
five
and
a
half
million
in
the
hole
I
can
see
why
they
did
it
because
they
won't
even
give
us
permit
or
CO.
If
we
don't
have
a
sidewalk
out
front
well,
they
had
boards
out
front
I
got
pictures
in
my
office.
The
whole
package
I
was
wanting.
It
basically
got
it
tore
you
didn't
get
the
money
until
the
project
was
done.
I
think
you
finally
got
you
two
million
dollars,
but
it's
still
just
alone.
I
can't
see
stepping
it.
How
much
was
legal
Market
Street
deal?
Money
was
how.
H
C
H
But
it
ain't,
you
know
six
years,
it's
to
basically
to
get
that
up
and
I
think
you
finally
got
the
money,
but
the
one
thing
I
ain't
figured
out
is
worth
showing
something
tonight
that
went
around
the
corner
that
didn't
come
before
our
county
manager
period.
It
was
brought
in
here
on
a
whim
I'm
looking
at
something
that
somebody
else
brought
in,
but
you
know
George
didn't
know
about
it.
H
H
That's
basically
just
giving
you
the
money,
so
you
know
2%.
If
we
click
to
2%
for
the
20
years,
then
that's
something
but
not
collecting
any
of
it
back
there.
That
period.
That's
that's
not
anything
and
but
I
just
you
know.
Hopefully
this
is
just
a
discussion
deal
that
we
can
all
have
a
sit
around
and
discuss.
But
mr
Wood,
here
you
know
it's
all
bypassed
by
him.
H
A
I
want
to
comment
on
that
in
three
commissioners
asked
this
organization
to
come
in
here
tonight
and
talk
to
us,
so
their
organization's
been
playing
this
project
for
a
number
of
years,
but
they
went
through
absolutely
the
right
process
to
talk
to
commissioners
and
asked
if
the
Commission
would
want
to
discuss
it
and-
and
we
followed-
we
followed
that
process.
So,
if
you're
not
happy
about
that,
you
should
take
it
up
with
the
commissioners
who
asked
them
to
be
here
tonight.
Not
what
not
with
the
folks
were
talking
about.
H
E
H
Wait
a
minute
it
was
on
Wednesday,
all
right,
five
or
six
commissioners
to
be
a
part
of
it
and
it's
brought
in
and
we
you
know,
there's
supposedly
money
involved
in
something
and
it's
an
amid
stream
of
these
are
nonprofits.
Okay.
This
is
a
non-profit.
It's
not
during
the
period
to
get
money.
They
are
a
non-profit
come
in
next
year,
when
a
non-profit
money
is
they
want
money.
They
said
in
here
the
than
that
didn't
say
a
word.
A
A
Your
choice
but
but
three
commissioners
asked
to
talk
about
this
project,
we're
here
to
talk
about
it.
We
have
not.
No
decisions
been
made.
Yet
that's
we're
here
to
talk
as
a
body
tonight
about
whether
we
want
to
take
action
or
not.
So
that's,
that's!
That's
where
we're
at
I
I
do
I
mean
I
would
I
would
say,
I
mean
I,
do
think
as
I've
been
thinking
about.
You
know
the
project
I
do
think
the
you
know:
we've
identified
affordable
housing
as
one
of
our
major
strategic
priorities.
This
is
kind
of
an
aside
from
this.
A
You
know
the
specific
project
we're
talking
about,
but
I
do
I.
Do
think
that
and
again
it's
not
just
because
of
this
project,
but
just
think
about
our
overall
investments
in
housing.
You
know
we
have
made
some
more
significant
investments
in
in
affordable
housing
over
the
last
few
years
and
I
think
the
Commission's
I
made
before
you
know.
Partnering
on
the
Lee
Walker
Heights
project
in
particular,
is
a
very
significant
project.
I
know
some
of
the
folks
who
are
working
on
the
homelessness
issues
in
the
community.
A
Are
you
know,
there's
some
projects
that
are
out
there
that
they're
gonna
want
to
talk
to
us
about
so
I
mean
separate
from
the
discussion
tonight,
but
at
some
point,
I
think
having
some
further
discussion
about
how
we
do
as
a
as
a
board
wish
to
you
know
kind
of
think
about
these
projects
and
investments
going
forward
is
a
good
idea,
but
we
don't
currently
have
you
know
an
affordable
housing
subcommittee
of
the
County
Commission.
In
the
same
way
we
do
for
early
childhood
education.
Maybe
we
should
look
at
that,
but
we
should
so
I'm.
A
You
know
those
are.
There
are
I
think
there
are
probably
ways
that
we
could
improve
our
internal
processes,
but
I
just
don't
want
to
jump
on
folks
who
are
just
kind
of
talking
to
us,
and
you
know
getting
our
by
some-
how
they
can
engage
with
this
body
at
this
time.
Other
thoughts
or
questions
you
know
going.
B
Oh
I
agree:
I,
think
the
project
is
an
excellent
project,
but
it
brings
up
a
good
point
just
like
what
we're
doing
for
early
childhood.
You
know
pre-k.
We
have
we're
setting
the
infrastructure
in
place
to
handle
that
and
when
you
look
at
what's
needed
here
and
affordable
housing,
I
don't
want
to
see
every
time
somebody
comes
before
us
with
affordable
housing
that
we
have
to
how
to
say
it
jump
through.
So
many
hoops
before
the
process
goes
to
the
staff.
B
You
know
we
can
look
at
it
and
do
a
good
job
of
approving
them,
because
the
way
I
feel
now
we're
doing
a
lot
of
this,
not
fair
to
mountain.
How
is
it
you
know
whoever
comes
before
us,
because
it
appears
that
we're
doing
this
by
the
seat
of
our
pants
and
that's
the
what
I
don't
like,
because
you
know
we
need
TAC
as
a
taxpayer
as
well.
As
you
know,
anybody
else
I
think
we've
got
to
be
strategic
about
doing
this
and
not
saying
not
to
do
this.
B
No,
but
this
is
a
good
point
in
time
for
us
to
start
to
put
something
in
place
so
that
we
don't
go
forward
every
time.
It's
mounting
the
housing
or
whoever
comes
in
here.
We
have
to
go
through
this
and
that's
why
what
I
would
say
is
let's
get
with
staff,
discuss
it
and
then
get
back
with
them
at
our
next
meeting.
B
D
You
know
overnight
unless
you've
spent
some
time
and
really
really
looked
at
it
that
mean
ii,
don't
support
it
just
means
you've
got
to
have
a
process
to
be
able
to
move
things
forward,
and
that's
why
I
asked
the
questions
about
structure,
because
this
won't
be
the
last
one
then
y'all
will
be
doing
will
be
the
last
one
that
we
look
at,
but
there
needs
to
be.
There
needs
to
be
the
right
time
and
the
right
way
to
do
it.
Yeah
we
have
to.
We
have
to
we're
accountable
for
that.
D
A
If
we're
gonna
vote
on
something
that
we
would
take
public
comment,
if
we
were
actually
gonna
vote
on
something,
if
we're
gonna
not
vote
on
a
tonight,
but
have
some
process
to
carry
it
forward,
then
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we'll
open
it
up
for
general
public
comment.
There
are
other
comments
from
mountain
housing,
specifically
I.
Think
we'd
welcome.
You
know
come
continue.
Divert
that
since
you
were,
you
were
asked
to
be
here.
D
I
You
did
approve
the
4.2
million
dollars
for
that
and
we've
had
negotiations
with
the
Housing
Authority
and
we
will
be
up
fronting
approximately
a
third
of
the
dollars
upfront
for
allow
them
to
be
able
to
continue
the
project
and
it's
still
a
three
year
project
and
so
we'll
pay
the
first
installment
and
I
believe
this
year.
The
money
is
already
budgeted
and
approved,
and
that
will
be
a
larger
portion
that
a
smaller
portion
and
then
the
final
payment
in
year.
Three
for
that
project.
So
so.
D
J
A
K
K
Bill
ogle
speak
and
I'm
the
board
of
a
director
I'm
a
board
member
of
the
North
Carolina
Housing
and
Finance
Agency
I've
been
a
member
on
that
board
for
about
16
years.
I
was
a
member
of
this
board
for
four
years
from
1970
1976
1980.
You
guys
working
hard
and
I
appreciate
everything
you
do
I
believe
in
housing
and
I
believe
in
affordable
housing.
K
The
North
Carolina
Housing
Agency
has
funded
14
developments
for
Mountain
housing
opportunities.
We've
put
7.6
million
dollars
in
tax
credits
in
this
county,
so
we're
believer
in
mountain
housing.
We're
a
believer
in.
What's
going
on
with
housing,
I
agree
with
you,
chairman
and
I
agree
with
you.
Mr.
Whitesides,
you
ought
to
have
a
committee
to
move
forward
and
do
some
planning
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
serve
on
that
committee
and
I
could
get
you
some
other
folks
that
would
serve
on
that
committee.
I
want
to
ask
a
question
right
now.
K
How
many
of
you
folks
have
actually
set
foot
in
a
development?
That's
been
constructed
by
Mountain
Housing
Opportunity,
one,
two,
three,
four:
five!
You
need
to
go!
Mr.
president,
it's
very
impressive.
These
folks
are
living
their
lives,
very
wonderful
and
harmonious,
and
at
nice
place
according
to
their
sources
of
income,
you're
doing
a
good
thing.
When
you
do
this,
the
agency
we
work
in
our
100
counties,
we
distribute
tax
credits
in
all
100
counties.
K
We
get
a
hundred
and
forty
applications
every
year
to
do
tax
credits
we
can
only
film
35,
Buncombe
County
has
been
very
very
fortunate.
We
built
101
million
295
tax
credits
for
Li
Walker,
so
I
appreciate
your
time.
I
appreciate
you
letting
me
speak
to
Seidman
I
am
for
this
150
percent.
You
need
to
give
this
group
2.2
million
dollars.
Let's
get
some
more
housing
out
in
Swannanoa
where
we
need
it.
I
have
the
list
here.
K
G
Yeah
just
like
to
chime
in
with
a
few
thoughts,
one
is
thank
you
all
to
the
folks
for
Mountain
housing,
for
this
presentation
and
for
the
work
you're
doing
on
the
ground
every
day,
and
and
this
is
a
project
that
I'm
enthusiastic
about
supporting
I.
Think
if
the
will
the
Commission
is
to
take
some
time
for
discussion
and
process
and
vote
at
our
next
meeting.
It's
really
understand
that,
but
this
is
something
that
I
feel
like
is
just
so
clearly
aligned
with
our
affordable
housing.
G
Priority
and
I
also
think
it
would
be
wonderful
and
it's
really
incumbent
upon
us
to
create
that
process
through
which
community
partners
would
have
a
clear
delineate
way
to
know
how
to
approach
staff
and
Commission
and
an
absent
us
creating
that
process.
You
know
it.
It's
gonna
happen
any
number
of
different
ways.
G
I
also
just
want
to
just
kind
of
take
a
moment.
Cuz,
we
don't
have
that
process
in
place
and,
at
the
same
time,
a
lot
of
exciting
work
is
happening
around
affordable
housing
at
the
county
level
and
I
just
want
to
take
about
30
seconds
to
sort
of
walk
through
that
we
did
pass
this
strategic
priority.
It's
available
on
the
website
that
basically
articulates
that
ensuring
comprehensive
opportunities
for
affordable
and
safe
housing
as
a
foundation
for
healthy
and
thriving
families,
a
neighborhood
would
be
a
priority
of
the
board
and
and
some
of
our
work
around.
G
That
is
around
sort
of
large
projects,
whether
it
is
Google
Market
Street,
the
Lee
Walker
project,
this
project.
If
it
comes
if
Commission
votes
to
participate
as
a
funder,
we
we
also
supported
this
last
year.
Increased
budget
increased
funding
for
the
housing
services
program,
which
is
particularly
assisting
folks
with
emergency
housing,
repair
needs
and
kind
of
responding
to
some
of
those
emergent
and
acute
needs
that
happen,
and
you
know
the
county
had
a
public
work
session
about
affordable
housing
last
spring.
G
A
lot
of
great
folks
working
in
the
sector,
so
I
also
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
overstating
this
and
act
and
treating
this
proposal
as
if
it's
a
satellite
that
lives
outside
the
box
of
normal
County
work
and
strategic
priorities.
I
feel
like
it
was
very
there's
a
very
clear
through
line,
and
this
presents
us
with
sort
of
a
next
opportunity
to
contemplate
a
significant
investment
and
I
certainly
will
be
supporting
that.
F
I
would
like
to
further
state
that
today,
I've
had
a
number
of
calls
and
texts
and
emails
from
folks
in
the
Swannanoa
area,
specifically
asking
for
support
expressing
their
support
and
excitement
for
this
project,
and
thank
you
to
Mountain
housing
opportunities
for
the
work
that
you
do
for
committing
to
a
permanently
affordable
housing
stock
that
is
well
maintained.
The
proposed
rates
are
the
kind
of
rates
that
we
should
be
seeing.
F
M
L
Was
contacted
and
Cindy
I
know
you
did
mail
me
and
we
didn't
get
together
so
I'm,
one
Commissioner
you
didn't
get
to
talk
to
that.
We
would
bring
this
for
discussion
and
and
that's
what
I'm
hoping
today
is
discussion,
and
we
can
put
this
I
know
it's
a
priority.
It
is
all
seven
of
us
top
priority.
I.
Think
the
speech
that
I
would
like
to
hear
more
and
then
bring
this
back.
A
Well,
how
about
how
about
this
just
kind
of
you
know
taking
in
comments
sound
like
there's,
definitely
interested
in
seriously
considering
this,
why
don't
we?
But
it
is
a
significant
request.
I
mean
it's
a
significant
investment,
so
why
don't
we
ask
that
our
you
know
Planning
and
Community
Development
staff
review
the
proposal
and
schedule
this
for
subsequent
Commission
meeting.
We
definitely
want
to
get
the
staffs
input
on
this.
This
is
not
the
time
or
place
to
you
know.
I
mean
I,
think
the
questions
about
different
structures
and
things
like
that
are
interesting.
A
But
obviously
this
is
not
the
place
where
we're
gonna
review
your
pro
forma
in
detail,
and
you
know
figure
out
the
details
of
that.
But
that's
we've
got
great
staff
to
help
with
that.
So
why
don't
we
ask
that
we
have
the
staff.
Look
at
the
look
at
the
requests
you
know
to
validate
that
I
mean
one
of
the
questions
I
had
you
know,
as
I've
talked
to
Cindy
and
she'll
vouch
for
this
I'm
like
what
can
you
do
to
get
this
number
down?
A
I
mean
we,
you
know,
we,
we
have
a
finite
amount
of
resources
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
are
investing
them
in
the
most
cost,
effective
way
that
we
can,
and
so
you
know,
I've
done
what
I
feel
like
I
can
as
a
commissioner
to
push
on
that.
I
mean
I,
want
the
project
to
happen
and
I
want
it
to.
You
know,
want
it
to
be
done
as
cost-effectively
as
possible.
I
think
we
want
our
staff
to
look
at
it
as
well
and
make
sure
that
they
can
also
validate
that.
A
You
know
these
funds
are
all
needed.
There's
you
know
and
that
the
that
it's
a
reasonable
request
to
get
to
execute
on
the
project
so
with
the
Commission
be
open
to
to
that
suggestion
that
we
bring
this
back
with
a
full
staff.
You
know
staff
report
and
then
we
could,
you
know,
act
on
it.
Once
we've
reviewed
the
staff
report
as
a
budget
amendment.
If
there's
support
to
do
that.
B
Immediately
in
setting
up
a
structure
to
handle
these
proposals
going
forward,
you
know
so
that
organizations
will
know
how
to
bring
them
to
the
County.
What
we
go
through
and
all
it'll
be
a
lot
smoother.
You
know,
then,
what
we're
doing,
because
it
is
one
of
our
priorities
and
we
need
to
have
the
structure.
A
Of
it,
well,
let's
let
some
you
know
the
agenda
item
tonight
is
this
specific
project
I
think
has
raised
some
good
process
questions
yeah.
Let's
don't
figure
all
this
I,
don't
think
we
have
time
to
figure
all
this
out
tonight,
but
I
I
mean
I'm
in
agreement
and
whether
that's
a
formal
subcommittee
or
you
know
something
short
of
that.
That
I
mean
one
of
the
issues.
Is
that
the
timing
around
I
mean.
A
Know,
project
decisions,
our
budget
process,
these
things,
don't
all
they're
all
on.
You
know
they're
all
in
their
own
time,
schedule
so
figuring
out
a
process
to
make
sure
that
we
can.
You
know,
be
engaged
at
the
point
of
the
process
where
we
want
to
be
and
have
all
the
information
as
it's.
It
can
be
a
little
tricky
but
I
think
I
think
you're
right.
We
can
do
better.
A
So,
let's,
let's
all
think
about
what
that
what
is
the
right
way
to
to
be
more
engaged
earlier
in
the
process,
so
any
other
questions
from
the
Commission
or
otherwise
we'll
plant
them
on
not
taking
any
action
tonight.
But,
looking
forward
to
this
coming
back
with
a
staff
report
associated
with
it,
so.
D
Yeah
I've
got
a
couple
of
comments.
I
don't
want
to
miss
this
opportunity
for
this
to
be
for
us
to
be
able
to
improve
this
process,
and
so
as
much
as
we
could
do
with
looking
at
how
we
structure
these,
whatever
we
think
we
can
accomplish
between
now
and
when
we
look
at
this,
which
is
you
know,
next
meeting
you're
meeting
after
you
know,
whatever
you.
D
D
A
You
know
create
a
process
around
just
this
one
project
either
right,
so
we
need
a
process.
That's
gonna
work
for
the
for
the
long
term.
How
about
this
I
was
the
suggestion,
I
mean,
and
why
don't
we
when
the
staff
come
back
to
us?
Maybe
we
could
also
just
get
a
short
presentation
on,
because
there
is
a
process.
I
mean
there's
an
internal
process
that
our
staff
use
to
review
different
projects,
there's
scoring
procedures
for
different
projects
that
based
on
meeting
the
goals
the
Commission
set
up.
So
it's
not
like
there
is
no
process.
A
It's
just.
We
just
don't
have
a
subcommittee
of
the
Commission
to
work
with
his
staff.
They
give
through
their
processes
and
that's
right,
and
then
they
come
to
us
so
try.
If
we
want
to
get
more
involved
in
that
we
either
you
need
a
subcommittee
or
need
more
regular
updates
from
the
staff
and
do
it
at
the
full
body.
So
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
different
options,
but
I
don't
know
if
we're
gonna
be
able
to
get
all
that
sorted
out.
You
know
in
the
next.
You
know
two
to
four
weeks.
D
Outside
I
mean
we
might
be
able
to
structure
this
one
different
than
the
others.
I,
don't
know
what
that
looks
like,
but
there's
no
reason
why
we
couldn't
couldn't
look
at
that
you're
not
going
to
care
as
long
as
you
have
the
money.
I
would
think.
As
long
as
you
feel
like
you
can
see
that
you
can
accomplish
your
goals.
You
know
if
we
just
change
the
structure,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
way
someone
asset.
I
would
say
that
you
know.
D
You
know
I
mean
if
you
come
in
and
ask
for
the
million
I'm
and
I
must
I'm
a
supporter
of
this
project
where
it's
at
and
I
want
to
preface
what
I'm
saying
with
that
not
being
negative
towards
project
I'm,
just
negative
towards
the
process
and
having
to
deal
with
it.
You
know
a
few
weeks
before
for
a
deadline
and
that
that
puts
put
stress
on
the
decision
that
I
think
could
be
avoided
if
the
process
is
improved
so
and
but
I
think
we're
looking
to
do
that.
That's
what
I'm
here.
B
D
If
they
can
put,
if
they
can
put
it
together,
yeah-
and
they
can-
you
know,
show
us
that
the
process
is
that's
what
I'm
looking
for
there
we're
we're
using
the
taxpayers
dollars
in
a
proper
way,
we're
investing
it
according
to
our
priorities
and
we're
doing
it
we're
not
reacting
to
the
requests.
You
know
we're
actually
improving
our
process
to
be
able
to
meet
that
goal.
Then,
if
y'all
can
pull
that
off.
Oh
no.
N
H
A
D
A
A
This
commission
deals
with
the
question
in
my
mind
and
honestly
I,
don't
think
I've
like
come
down
strongly
in
one
side
or
the
other,
but
you
know,
but
when
something
is
elevated
to
a
high
enough
level
of
Commission
interest,
like
you
know
the
early
childhood
education,
which
put
some
significant
resources
dedicated
to
it,
it
makes
at
some
point
things
make
sense
to
have
a
dedicated
focus,
because
you
can
only
deal
with
so
much
in
you
know.
In
these
bigger
meetings,
you
need
groups
to
kind
of
drill,
deeper,
and
so
I
was
a
process.
O
A
A
P
We
need
a
motion
and
vote
to
enter
into
closed
session
pursuant
to
north
carolina
general
statute.
143
318
point
11
a
3
to
consult
with
an
attorney
employed
or
retained
by
the
public
body
in
order
to
preserve
the
attorney-client
privilege,
and
the
matter
that
will
be
discussed
is
the
county
of
bunkum
versus
wanda
Skellington
green
Amanda,
Lewis,
stone,
John,
Crichton
and
Joe
Weisman
sighted
at
18
CB
s
4206
is.
L
A
B
A
In
favor,
please
say:
aye
all
right.
All
right.
We
were
back
in
open
session
I'd
like
to
ask
Buncombe
County
outside
counsel
Ron
Payne,
to
to
join
us
and
he's
going
to
give
a
short
presentation
about
proposed
legal
settlement
involving
the
civil
lawsuit
that
the
county
is
involved
in
against
some
former
county
employees.
Mr.
M
Chairman
members
Commission
it's
my
pleasure
to
be
here
this
evening.
We
have
been
in
negotiations
with
John
cratons
attorney
and
I'm
here
this
evening
to
recommend
that
the
Commission
approve
a
settlement
with
mr.
Creighton.
If
you
approve
it,
this
will
be
a
limited
release.
Only
for
the
matters
which
we're.
Where
should
other
matters
arise?
There
would
be,
we
would
be
free
to
pursue
civil
litigation.
We
so
choose
the
amount
of
some
of
with
mr.
Creighton
would
be
one
hundred
and
eighty-nine
thousand
dollars.
M
M
We
would
anticipate
receiving
those
funds,
certainly
by
the
end
of
the
month,
and
hopefully
we
will
receive
his
Greene's
monies
as
soon
as
the
federal
probation
officers
approve
it
because
she
is
prohibited
from
entering
into
a
financial
transaction
of
$10,000
or
more,
unless
approved
by
her
probation
officer.
Her
attorney
has
told
me
he
is
initiated
that
process
and
hopefully
we're
going
to
get
an
answer
on
that,
perhaps
as
early
as
this
week,
and
those
monies
hopefully
will
be
in
the
County
coffers
by
the
end
of
January
also.
A
A
Before
we
vote
I
just
would
just
note,
obviously,
there's
been
other
recent
developments
in
the
same
civil
lawsuit.
So
my
math
is
correct
and
leave
with
this
settlement.
The
county
will
have
recovered
approximately
3
million
66
thousand
dollars
from
the
suit,
including
the
Wanda
green,
the
insurance
settlement
in
the
microgrid
settlement
and
this
it'll.
K
E
E
A
Consideration
of
alien
conservation,
advisory
board
recommendation
for
the
moose
will
Shire
stream
restoration
easement,
and
we
have
Nate
Pennington
to
talk
to
us
about
this
and
are
you
gonna
in
the
we
have
two
conservation
easement
items,
but
these
will
be
separate,
separate
presentations.
You'll
do
this
one
first
and
then
the
one
on
the
wells,
King
bottom
liens
property.
That's.
Q
Correct
mr.
chair
commission
members,
members
of
the
public,
many
Nathan
Pennington
your
planning
director
at
this
time,
though,
I'd
like
to
present
staff
member
Jillian,
Phillips
she's,
one
of
our
senior
staff
planners
she'll,
be
presenting
both
items.
One
is
a
stream
restoration,
easement
and
the
other
is
a
conservation
easement,
and
there
are
two
groups
involved.
So
each
one
will
be
a
separate
presentation.
That
being
said,
miss
Phillips
will
give
the
presentations
all.
R
We
have
two
events
and
just
a
note:
the
Wells
hing
bottomlands
conservation
easement
on
the
agenda.
It
said
it
was
recommended
by
al
cab.
It
was
actually
recommended
by
the
AG
advisory
board,
but
the
first
one
up
is
the
moose
well
shire
stream
restoration
project,
and
this
is
a
request
from
River
link
in
the
amount
of
thirteen
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
for
transaction
fees,
to
establish
a
conservation
easement
as
part
of
a
larger
stream
restoration
project
funded
by
a
clean
water
management
trust
fund,
grant.
R
R
So
the
easement
would
be
three
point:
six
acres
and
the
full
cost
of
the
easement
is
being
donated
by
three
separate
property
owners
mark
and
milena
Robertson
Bruce
and
Rachel
Jenson
and
Shelby
Gipson.
The
property
is
within
the
city
of
Asheville
and
just
for
a
little
location
context.
It
is
where
the
old
folks
Lodge
is
near
new
Lester
Highway,
and
there
are
tentative
plans
to
turn
that
old,
loosely
Lodge
into
a
brewery.
R
So
these
are
just
pictures
of
the
current
condition
of
the
stream
within
the
easement
area.
It
just
so.
Some
of
the
erosion
in
the
area
usually
for
conservation,
easements
we're
showing
pretty
pictures.
This
is
sort
of
the
before
picture
and
after
the
easement
is
established,
which
would
include
a
50-foot
fifty
foot
wide
riparian
buffer
that
would
be
planted.
It
would
help
stabilize
the
stream
bank
filter
pollutants
from
runoff
and
provide
wildlife,
habitat.
R
So
for
the
the
investment
of
Buncombe
County
for
transaction
fees
would
be
$13,200
again.
The
three
landowners
are
donating,
their
the
value
of
their
easement,
so
that
value
that
they're
donating
is
two
hundred
and
fifty
eight
thousand
six
hundred
and
sixty
four
dollars
and
then
that
grant
from
Clean
Water
Management
trust
fund
is
four
hundred
and
forty
five
eight
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
So
the
actual
cost
to
establish
the
easement
is
forty,
eight
thousand
five
hundred
and
seventy
three
dollars.
R
D
D
A
D
Answered
be
happy
to
do
so
so
I
got
a
couple.
Questions
one
is
and
we'll
know
what
repair
it
is
sure
what
that
means.
The
second
thing
is
why
this
quarter-mile
of
stream,
when
there's
so
many
other
places
and
it
exactly
what
is
this
gonna,
look
like
when
we're
done
so
that's
the
questions.
I
have
sure.
S
Preparing
it
just
means
it's
in
the
vicinity
of
water
running
water.
In
this
case,
it's
Smith,
Mill,
Creek,
Smith,
mow
Creek
happens
to
be
one
of
the
most
polluted
streams
in
Buncombe
County.
There's
two
problems
with
the
stream.
One
was
covered
a
couple
days
ago
in
the
answer:
main
column,
Patton,
Avenue
floods,
so
quantity
is
an
issue
and
then
the
quality
of
the
water
is
the
other
issue.
This
is
a
highly
urbanized
environment.
S
It's
basically
the
stream
parallels
Patton
Avenue
and
that,
as
you
might
imagine,
does
not
have
much
in
the
way
of
what
we
like
to
see,
which
is
pervious
surfaces.
The
ground
is
one
of
our
best
filters
for
water
and
when
we
pave
over
it
or
put
large
rooftops
over
it,
that
water
comes
off
fast
and
it
also
brings
along
everything
that's
in
on
the
road.
S
So
why
is
this
spot
important
in
20
we're
pretty
fortunate?
In
North
Carolina
we
have
the
North
Carolina
Clean
Water
Management,
Trust
Fund.
This
is
not
federal
funding.
This
is
through
the
government
governor
and
the
legislature.
The
governor's
office
administers
the
funds
and
the
legislature
provides
them.
This
is
unique.
You
won't
find
it
when
you
go
in
across
any
of
our
borders
here
in
our
neighboring
states,
and
it
allows
us
to
make
some
pretty
significant
investments
in
clean
water.
S
In
this
particular
case,
it
is
a
couple
years
ago,
clean
water
management
trust
fund
themselves
had
given
us
funding
for
a
nine
element.
Watershed
plan
in
this
area.
It's
roughly
a
six
mile
square
mile
watershed
and
again
highly
polluted
what
they
do.
The
engineer
goes
out
and
looks
at
both
those
quantity
and
quality
issues.
S
There's
dozens
of
them.
You
can
find
it
online,
but
in
this
particular
case
this
is
one
of
the
top
projects
of
the
engineer
had
identified
as
making
it
an
investment
in
those
two
issues:
the
quality
and
the
quantity.
Is
you,
and
so
very
small
investment?
We've
already
been
awarded
the
funding
for
clean
water
management,
trust
fund,
that's
about
four
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
We
have
a
private
donor
and
these
private
landowners
giving
us
the
other
pieces
so
for
three
percent.
S
This
is
part
of
the
match
of
a
twenty
percent
match
that
will
be
giving
to
clean
water
management,
trust
fund,
with
River
link
and
some
of
the
other
organizations
involved.
In
this,
that
doesn't
mean
you're
handing
them
all
twenty
percent
of
those
dollars,
sometimes
they're,
allowing
us
to
use
our
community
to
go
out
and
do
projects
with
our
volunteers.
We
convert
that
into
dollars
for
their
satisfaction,
but
those
hours
of
volunteer
work
is
then
converted
over
to
take
care
of
the
stream
restoration.
S
A
Before
you
go
just
one
thing,
I
would
like
to
a
lot
of
great
things
about
this
project,
one
they
just
I
think
we
should
note
when
we
consider
these,
so
the
landowners
are
donating.
The
value
of
this
easement,
the
market
value
of
that
as
a
quarter
server,
is
over
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars,
so
we
should,
as
a
community,
say,
thank
you
to
these
landowners
who
are
voluntarily
giving
away.
You
know
significant
part
of
they
were
just
interested
in
just
maximizing
the
value
of
that
land.
They'd
be
they'd,
have
a
lot
of
other
options.
A
A
R
R
It
was
recommended
by
the
AG
advisory
board
in
February
2018,
and
we
have
Jess
logiss,
who
is
the
farmland
protection
director
with
the
southern
Appalachian
Highlands
urban
C,
and
they
are
the
the
agency
who
requested
funds
and
they
are
requesting
$50,000
in
transaction
costs.
It's
actually
two
separate
parcels
and
owners.
It's
the
wells,
family
and
the
King
family.
It's
going
to
be
a
hundred
and
sixty-six
acres
total.
R
All
the
parcels
are
in
the
voluntary
AG
district,
it's
91
acres
of
pasture
36,
acres
of
cropland,
34,
acres
of
woodland
and
five
acres
of
wetland,
and
just
to
give
you
a
little
history
of
the
property
and
the
families.
So
the
first
one
Sandra
King,
so
Sandra
King,
has
been
the
was
the
person
who
initiated
the
conservation
of
this
86
acres.
R
She
is
part
of
the
Ferguson
family
and
they
have
been
in
the
sandy
mush
community
for
a
very
long
time
and
at
one
time
owned,
hundreds
of
acres
and
she
took
it
upon
herself
because
she
had
seen
over
the
years
land
be
passed
down
to
numerous
heirs
and
be
parceled
out.
So
she
took
it.
She
took
it
as
a
goal
upon
herself
to
protect
this
86
acre
farm.
R
Sadly,
miss
King
has
passed
away,
but
her
relatives,
including
her
husband
and
children,
are
committed
to
seeing
this
land
protected
as
she
wanted
it
to
be.
So
approximately
80%
of
this
parcel
is
an
active
at
agricultural
use,
including
beef
cattle
production
and
her
son.
Tim
King
actually
actually
owns
an
adjacent
farming
tract
and
is
in
the
process
of
initiating
a
conservation
easement
on
his
property.
R
After
seeing
what
his
mother
has
done
or
wanted
to
do,
and
if
that
one
is
established
along
with
these
two
that
are
requesting
funding
now,
it
would
be
a
326
acre
block
of
continuous
protected
farmland
in
sandy
mush.
So
the
second
parcel
is
the
Aubrey
and
Rita
Wells
parcel
and
it's
84
acres
and
it
is
adjacent
to
the
Sandra
King
property
it
was.
It
is
one
of
the
few
remaining
dairy
operations
in
the
county.
R
The
wells
have
actually
leased
the
property
from
the
Sylvester
family
for
over
20
20
years,
and
the
Sylvester
family
is
related
to
the
Ferguson
family
and
the
Sylvester
family.
When
they
decided
to
sell
their
property,
they
gave
the
Wells
the
first
opportunity
to
purchase
it
and
they
sort
of
created
a
unique
model
for
transfer
of
this
land.
R
So
the
families
entered
into
a
5-year
interest-free
purchase
contract
in
which
the
Wells
family
will
pay
the
Sylvester
family
for
the
land
once
they
receive
payment
from
southern
Appalachian,
Thailand
Conservancy
for
their
easement,
and
this
parcel,
approximately
75%
of
the
parcel
is
an
active
agricultural
use.
The
tract
that
they
are
conserving
is
vital
to
the
dairy
operation.
R
R
Twenty
five
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
is
coming
for
a
private
donor
for
part
of
the
transaction
costs
and
then
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
is
being
requested
for
transaction
fees
from
Buncombe
County,
so
the
county
can
leverage
five
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
by
investing
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
That's
four
percent
of
the
project.
R
So
the
sandra
king
funding
273,000
333
dollars
it's
coming
from
a
USDA
grant,
one
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
six
hundred
and
sixty
seven
dollars
is
coming
from
a
private
donor.
Again,
the
landowner
is
donating,
some
of
the
value
of
that
easement,
one
hundred
and
thirty,
six
thousand
six
hundred
and
sixty
seven
dollars.
Twenty
five
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
is
also
coming
from
a
private
donor
for
transaction
costs
and
then
they're
requesting
that
$25,000
from
Buncombe
County
for
Tran
transaction
costs.
A
A
A
Next
up,
we
don't
have
any
public
hearings
George
in
the
county
manager
report.
Okay,
all
right!
Under
new
business,
we
have
a
resolution
to
approve
an
interlocal
agreement
with
the
town
of
Black
Mountain
for
funding
of
Riverwalk,
the
one
to
Mike
wanna,
move
that
I'm,
not
sure
I'm,
not
sure.
Look
all
of
these
have
county
staff
involved
right.
So,
let's
just
take
them
in
the
order
that
they're
on
the
hey,
Josh.
T
Our
commitment
to
the
project
would
be
limited
to
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
spread
out
over
the
next
three
years,
and
you
originally
committed
them
the
money
that
this
MOU
transfers
during
the
June
1928
team
meeting.
So
this
is
not
allocating
any
more
funding
than
you've
already
allocated
to
date.
This
will
just
provide
us
with
a
guaranteed
return
on
our
investment,
as
we
pass
that
not
funding
to
Black
Mountain.
So
with
that
I
can
entertain
any
questions.
F
T
T
A
Members
of
the
public.
You
wish
to
comment
on
the
proposal
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
post
thanks
Josh!
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
up,
it's
a
resolution
declining
the
purchase
of
surplus
property
from
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Education
in
approving
a
sublease
of
that
property
and
I
believe
my
fruits
going
to
present
this.
Yes,
yes,
sir,.
J
J
Well
that
didn't
work
out
very
well.
Okay,
you
go
back
to
the
one
you
were
just
on.
You
see
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
image
there
there's
it
looks
like
a
baseball
field,
outfield
next
to
Jacob
Holden
way
and
above
Asheville,
Commerce
Park.
What
this
resolution
asks
is
that,
since
the
county
owns
this
property,
now
the
whole
inca
intermediate
school
site
for
financing
purposes,
the
county
and
the
county
school
board
have
been
working
with
inca
fire
department
to
locate
a
new
substation
in
that
area
in
the
corner
of
Jacob
home
way.
J
The
southwest
corner
of
Jacob
home
way
in
Asheville
Commerce
Park.
So
to
make
this
happen,
the
school
board
must,
by
law,
offer
the
property
to
the
county
to
accept
a
decline
of
surplus
property.
The
school
board
by
attached
resolution
asked
that
the
county
declined
to
accept
that
offer,
and
the
school
board
also
asked
that
we
authorize
the
school
board
to
sublease
the
property,
to
inca
fire
department
for
their
substation.
J
A
And
the
reason
just
won't
have
one
question:
just
the
reason:
the
county,
the
county,
owns
the
properties
because
we
financed
this,
so
we
have
a.
We
have
a
lien
on
the
property
during
the
period
of
the
financing
which
is
necessary
since
we're
funding
the
project
is,
that
is
that
right?
That's
essentially
correct.
Yes,
sir,
all
right
all
right.
Okay,
now
the
motion
is
to
approve
this
project
approve
the
resolution,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed.
A
U
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
board
good
evening,
my
name
is
Dan
Peterson
and
I'm,
representing
our
solid
waste
department
this
evening
and
I'm
here,
to
ask
boards
approval
to
begin
to
advertise
a
request
for
proposals
for
residential
waste
and
recycling
collections
in
the
unincorporated
areas
of
Buncombe
County
in
2010,
the
current
exclusive
franchise
contract
was
initiated
and
this
was
a
ten-year
term.
So
the
the
current
contract
is
set
to
expire,
December
31st
of
2019
of
this
year
and,
as
you
know,
waste
Pro
is
the
service
provider
for
this
contract.
U
The
bid
structure
for
the
RFP
requires
that
contractors
bid
on
two
separate
models
and
the
the
models
that
requiring
contractors
to
propose
to,
or
the
subscriber
based
model
and
the
comprehensive
unincorporated
household
model.
The
subscriber
model
is
our
current
structure.
We're
citizens
and
unincorporated
Buncombe
have
the
option
to
subscribe
to
the
franchise
collectors
services
and
they
also
have
the
option
to
self
halt
their
waste
and
recycle
materials
to
a
permitted
convenience
center
in
the
county.
U
We
have
control
over
the
Buncombe,
County
transfer
station
and
Buncombe
County
landfill
convenience
sites
and
there's
also
a
recycling
convenient
center
in
Woodfin,
operated
by
curbside
management.
So
that's
the
subscriber
base
model.
The
other
model
is
the
comprehensive
model,
and
this
this
basically
includes
in
the
scope
of
services
all
of
the
single-family
residential
parcels
in
unincorporated
Buncombe
and
in
our
communications,
with
haulers
involved
in
the
industry
and
other
local
governments.
We
certainly
feel
that
this
option
provides
gains
and
efficiencies
and
as
well
as
can
translate
to
savings
in
a
perhaps
old
unit
cost.
U
U
The
fact
that
a
performance
bond
must
be
carried
in
effect
throughout
the
duration
of
the
contract
where
previously
and
currently
the
performance
bond
was
was
not
required
past.
The
second
year
of
the
contract
term,
we've
also
worked
to
incentivize
proposals
that
will
incorporate
alternate
fuel
powered
service
vehicles,
as
well
as
automated
collection
fleet.
An
example
of
alternate
fuel
driven
vehicles
would
be
a
compressed
natural
gas
or
CNG
driven,
which
were
seeing
an
upward
trend
in
the
in
the
industry.
U
Now,
with
the
amount
of
CNG
vehicles
and
an
example
of
automated
collection
vehicle
would
be
similar
to
what
the
city
of
Asheville
uses
the
the
side
loaders
or
the
one-armed
bandits.
That
are
whether
the
control
functions
are
shifted
to
the
the
cab
of
the
vehicle,
and
we
feel
like
that's,
that's,
certainly
a
safer
operation
and
can
be
more
efficient
when
you
remove
the
slinger
from
the
back
of
the
vehicle.
It's
it's
it's
not.
U
We
can't
it's
hard
for
our
market
and
the
geography
to
say
that
we
can
use
that
everywhere,
but
we
want
to
see
that
increase
because
we
feel
like
it
is
safer
and
more
efficient
for
for
our
citizens
and
the
workers
pending
board
approval.
This
evening
the
RFP
advertisement
period
will
begin
this
Friday
January
18th
and
the
the
deadline
to
submit
proposals
will
be
March.
1St
2019,
and
at
that
time
we
will
begin
the
semental
evaluation
process.
U
F
A
I
am
I
did
well
I
do
have
one
question.
You
know,
as
we
think
about
the
next
franchise
and
different
ways
to
make
sure
that
whoever
we
contract
with
that,
it's
a
you
know
they
perform
well.
So
the
proposal
the
proposal
is
to
go
out
for
contracts,
two
different
modes
of
operation.
You
know
one
kind
of
status
quo,
the
other,
if
there's
mandatory
participation,
comprehensive
participation
but
they're,
but
they're
all
countywide
right.
A
N
N
U
And
I
will
speak
to
the
fact
that
you
know
this
is
the
fifth
most
dangerous
industry
in
our
nation
and
as
far
as
safety
purposes
goes
efficiency
wise.
It's
it's
more
efficient
to
have
and
safer
to
have
less
collection
vehicles
on
the
road
to
service.
These
accounts.
That's
certainly
something
we
look.
A
I
mean
part
of
part
of
that
all
makes
sense.
Maybe
part
of
the
you
know
kind
of
a
appeal
of
the
idea
of
having
more
than
one
would
be
if
one
was
really
failing
to
perform
that
it
might
be
more
feasible
to
actually
terminate
a
contract,
whereas,
if
you're,
all
in
with
one
company,
it's
kind
of
very
challenging
to
get
out
of
it.
But
I
understand
the
financial
protections
you're
talking
about
building
into
this
one.
A
Do
you
think
that
if
we
did
need
to
terminate
a
contract
as
we
think
about
a
franchise
I
mean
if
a
company
is
really
failing
to
perform,
not
and
and
we
don't
think
it's
gonna
get
better-
that
it
is
realistic
that
that
it
can
be
terminated
and
having
a
another
company
brought
in
during
the
term
of
the
franchise?
Have
you
seen
examples
of
that
to
work
on
your
experience.
D
K
D
U
There
there
is
specific
language
in
the
ordinance
regarding
the
the
fee
structure
and
a
lot
of
that
information
is
pertaining
to
CPI
increases
and
we're
somewhat
protected
over
the
first
two
years
of
the
contract
based
on
the
CPI
increase,
and
you
know,
approximately
the
5%
mark
is
one
that
triggers
an
adjustment
on
the
CPI
based
on
the
ordinance.
Now
you
know,
I
feel
like
the
language
is
in.
The
ordinance
certainly
helps
us
to
restrict.
U
You
know
a
vendor
coming
in
and
saying
look,
this
is
you
know,
we're
bidding
this
low
and
we're
gonna
come
back
and
ask
for
more
money.
Yeah,
because
we
have,
you
know
I
can
think
of
at
least
three
locations
within
the
RFP
that
we
have
stipulated
that
just
because
this
is
the
low
cost
provider
or
low
cost
proposal.
That
does
not
guarantee
that
the
that
that
proposal
will
be
awarded
the
contract,
because
that's
that's
what
we're
evaluating
for
price
is
certainly
important,
and
it
is
certainly
something
that
we
we
consider
heavily.
U
N
So,
as
Dane
said
we'll
be
looking
at,
do
they
have
sufficient
equipment
and
manpower?
You
know
to
meet
their
obligations
every
day
and
that
sort
of
thing
what's
their
financial
condition.
You
know
cuz.
Obviously
we
want
to
go
with
the
company.
That's
strong
enough
that
if
they
have
to
provide
additional
equipment
or
manpower
that
they're
in
a
position
financially
to
do
that.
A
A
A
A
L
B
A
Opposed
all
right
and
then
the
final
item
on
board
appointments,
deals
with
board
and
Commission
employments,
where
commissioners
are
liaisons
or
members
to
these
different
boards.
So
everyone
should
have
a
it's
on
the
link
as
well
as
maybe
you
have
a
printout
of
it.
The
positions
in
highlighted
in
yellow
are
the
positions
where
the
terms
are,
you
know
are
up
now,
but
we
just
listed
all
of
them.
Just
so
folks
can
see
all
the
different
boards
that
are
out
there.
A
A
E
D
E
L
A
G
Actually
not
listed
here
but
I've
been
serving
on
the
CC
PTC
FPT
board.
It's
not
required
to
Commissioner
beyond
that.
I'm
gonna
be
cycling
off
of
that
because
of
other
commitments
on
here.
But
if
anyone
was
interested
in
doing
that,
I
think
the
board
itself
could
it
was
like
yeah.
That's
right
at
will
position
anyway,
just
flagging
that
that
I'll
be
cycling
off
that
okay.
A
H
A
Serve
another
term
okay.
So
what
are
we
that's
sounds
good.
Why
don't
we
go
through
these
and
on
the
ones
where
there's
reappointments
and
so
we'll
get
the
lane
this
guy
we'll
talk
about
that
some
more
and
see
if
somebody
else
wants
to
do
that?
Well,
that's
just
actually
what
you
see
on
that
is
anybody.
E
A
A
Okay,
well,
listen.
The
point
of
the
discussion
tonight
was
just
sort
of
to
have
a
conversation
about
this
see
who's
interested
in
different
ones.
So
we
don't
have
to
make
all
these
decisions
tonight,
it's
good!
So
why
don't
we
just
keep
the
crime
stoppers
in
the
land
of
sky
we'll
hold
on
those
we'll
have
some
more
discussion
about
that
bring
those
back.
I
do.
L
L
L
D
B
H
D
A
D
A
A
There's
been
discussions
on
that
board
about
reconstituting
the
overall
makeup
of
it.
It's
been
working
for
about
three
years,
I
think
are
there
about.
So
I
think
that
this
is
one
that
will
probably
be
some
other
changes
on
it
coming
forward,
but
I'm
definitely
teresting
continuing
to
serve
on
it.
So
so
chairman.
D
I
mean
you've
made
a
major
commitment
to
that
and
and
I
don't
think
I
really
want
to
make
the
same
commitment
you're
making
but
I
wouldn't
mind
serving
on
that
for
a
period
of
time,
I
mean.
Is
there
a
way
to
I
guess
I
could
come
to
the
sessions
or,
but
is
there
a
way
to
do
and
do
an
alternate?
You
know
for
that,
because
I
would
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
mind
attending
I,
wouldn't
mind
attending
that
yeah.
A
Absolutely
I
more
than
meet
said
the
meeting
I
mean
I,
guess
all
these
meetings
are
open.
Of
course,
other
open,
I'm
sure
the
task
force
would
would
welcome.
You
know
seeing
other
commissioners
there
and
participating
this
is
kind
of
a
unique
board
in
that
it
is.
It
is
jointly
appointed
between
us
in
the
city.
So,
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
gonna,
make
changes
to
the
bylaws
of
it
I'm
using
the
right
term,
we
would
need
to
do
with
jointly
subject
like
formally
create
alternate
positions,
and
things
like
that.
But
I
think
it's
an
interesting
idea.
E
B
A
Have
been
meeting
once
a
month,
those
meetings
have
been
I've
gone
to
like
every
other
month
in
some
cases
there's
so
so
it's
not
every
month
that
the
group
meets
now
because
it's
kind
of
you
know
early
on
it
was
a
new
thing
and
there's
a
lot
of
planning
going
on.
So
now
it's
it's
not
every
month,
it's
usually
every
other
month.
L
A
Sounds
great
great,
alright
that
that
that
sounds
great
well,
you
know
the
other
thing
I'm,
you
know,
Robert,
you
raise
a
good
point
in
terms
of
you
know
some
of
these
different
boards.
We
do
get
updates
on
fairly
regularly.
You
know
the
school
capital
fund,
Commission,
of
course,
and
and
others
that
we
might
want
to.
You
know
we
might
want
to
think
about
getting
presentations
from
some
of
these
other
boards
throughout
the
year
to
kind
of
hear.
A
What
they're
up
to
but
I'm
sure
the
energy
innovation
task
force
would
would
like
to
do
that
as
lucky
all
right.
There
is
a
motion
in
a
second
further
discussion
on
on
this
one,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
any
opposed
all
right
and
I'll
report
back.
I
want
to
talk
to
those
folks
about
some
of
the
suggestions.
Are
we've
done
Health
and
Human
Services
we've
talked
about
laying
the
sky,
we're
gonna,
bring
that
one
back
and
we
have
the
Riverfront
Redevelopment
Commission
and
mr.
A
E
A
L
A
Gonna,
we're
gonna,
bring
that
we're
gonna
I.
Think
I,
just
I'd
like
to
ask
everyone
to
think
about
that
both
lay
in
the
sky
and
Crimestoppers
and
if
you're
interested
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
when
they
meet
how
often
they
meet
and
we're
gonna
bring
those
back
up.
So
we
do
need
to
have
commissioners
appointed
to
those,
but
we
don't
have
to
do
that
tonight,
so
we'll
bring
them
back.
A
A
V
Good
evening,
chairman
and
commissioners
welcome
Commissioner
Edwards,
my
name
is
michael
harney,
I've
come
before
you
and
it's
always
my
honor
to
do
so,
and
it's
apropos
today
the
very
day
that
dr.
Martin,
Luther,
King
jr.,
was
born
90
years
ago.
So
I
work
at
the
Western
North
Carolina
aids
project
I'm,
a
prevention
educated.
V
We
have
a
colleague
who's
now,
working
in
Macon,
County
and
Franklin
she's
doing
some
of
the
needle
exchange
out
in
the
western
part
of
this
region,
but
in
total
in
2018
we
went
through
four
hundred
and
seventy
two
thousand
eight
hundred
and
seventy
three
needles
I
like
to
also
mention
and
apropos
to
this
day
my
first
colleague
and
mentor
and
boss
was
Marty
prairie
chicken.
He
also
was
born
on
this
day
in
1958,
so
it
would
have
been
61
years
of
age
had
he
lived
to
this
day.
V
Back
in
the
1990s
1994,
when
we
implemented
needle
exchange
here
in
the
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
area,
if
we
ever
went
through
a
thousand
needles
in
a
whole
year,
we
thought
that
was
pretty
hot
snot,
as
I
would
say,
but
to
have
gone
through
over
470
thousand
needles
in
one
year.
I
must
tell
you
that
we
are
at
about
week
two
into
each
month
still
running
out
of
supplies.
V
To
see
that
we
really
are
all
drug
users.
I
know
some
of
you
are
probably
hoping
to
get
out
of
this
meeting
as
soon
as
possible
to
go
have
a
drink
alcohol.
Some
of
you
may
be
using
tobacco
products
in
different
ways,
I
like
coffee
in
the
evening,
not
in
the
morning,
so
we
really
are
all
drug
users
if
we
could
reduce
the
stigma
and
reduce
the
discrimination
around
people
who
ingest
drugs
through
the
injection
of
them.
V
V
Note
I
hope
that
the
Buncombe
County
Commissioners
would
consider
ways
of
getting
more
solar
panels
on
buildings
that
are
public
buildings,
office
buildings,
things
that
you
are
financing,
including,
maybe
even
encouraging
businesses,
private
businesses,
Walt
Walmart,
tops
and
engels
to
to
put
solar
panels
there
to
reduce
our
need
for
those
otherwise
fossil
fuels.
Thank
you,
so
very
much
all.