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From YouTube: Commissioner's Regular Meeting (March 1, 2022)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for March 1, 2022. To view the meeting agendas or learn more about your Board of Commissioners, visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
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A
A
So,
let's
have
a
moment
of
silence
to
reflect
on
and
think
about
the
people
who
are
in
danger
today.
A
A
All
right
I'd
like
to
announce
that
any
members
of
the
public
who
are
visiting
who
are
attending
the
county
commission
who
utilize
public
transit
or
the
county
parking
deck
to
attend.
This
meeting
can
get
validation
on
your
parking
or
transit
passes
by
seeing
one
of
the
officers
who's
with
us
this
evening,
and
you
can
get
validation
for
that.
A
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board?
Today,
there
being
none
all
board.
Members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
any
matters
voted
on
by
the
board.
At
our
meeting
this
evening.
A
A
All
right
I'd
like
to
request
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
but
also
and
to
follow
the
remainder
of
the
agenda
as
published,
but
we'd
like
to
move
the
recognition
for
the
recipient
of
the
order
of
the
longleaf
pine
to
handle
that
before
public
comment,
and
also
to
invite
pastor,
leonty
ostepovich
to
also
speak
prior
to
public
comment.
A
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
As
many
folks
know,
buncombe
county
is
a
community
that
has
a
very
strong
ukrainian
population
here
in
buncombe
county,
as
well
as
western
north
carolina.
So
like
many
members
of
the
community,
in
particular,
members
of
our
ukrainian
community
have
been
deeply
affected
personally
by
the
events
we've
seen
unfolding
in
ukraine
over
the
past
week.
A
So
I
wanted
to
welcome
pastor
leonte
ostepovich
to
be
with
us
who
was
involved
in
community
efforts
here
in
buncombe
county
to
help
support
the
people
of
ukraine
at
this
time.
So
I'd
like
to
invite
him
to
come
up
and
you
may
speak
from
the
podium-
and
I
believe
dimitri
is
with
him
and
he
will
assist
in
sharing
some
information
with
us.
So
thank
you
both
very
much
for
being
with
us,
and
we
welcome
hearing
your
thoughts
about
how
people
in
our
community
can
help
support
our
friends
and
neighbors
in
their
efforts.
A
I
think
the
commission
would
be
interested
in
hearing
your
perspective
on
how
the
people
in
your
community,
both
here
and
in
ukraine,
are
being
affected
and
any
by
the
invasion
of
the
country
and
anything
that
members
of
our
community
can
do
to
help
at
this
time.
For
those
who
have
been
who
are
being
affected
by
the
conflict
and
some
of
the
efforts
within
the
ukrainian
community
to
lead
those
efforts.
B
C
I
don't
want
to
well
describe
exactly
the
things
that
go
on
over
there.
B
C
And
also
to
the
borders
of
ukraine,
I'm
sorry
of
romania.
C
B
C
He
sees
many
families
with
many
children
if.
B
C
Can
at
least
minimally
help
our
brothers
and
sisters
that
are
running
away
that
are
refugees.
B
B
C
Because
this
is
a
it's,
a
very
urgent,
urgent
departure.
B
B
B
B
B
Although
it's
but.
B
B
B
B
A
Dimitri
and
pastor
osteopovic,
thank
you
both
so
much
for
being
with
us
and
for
what
you
are
doing
to
help
your
community,
both
here
and
in
ukraine
today,
during
what's
the
hardest
of
times,
and
we
understand
that
our
you
know,
national
government
is
helping
in
these
response
efforts
at
the
local
level.
There
may
not
be
that
much
we
as
county
government
can
do
you
know.
A
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
with
us,
and
we
will
be
thinking
about
you
as
you
travel
to
to
europe
to
help
support
the
ukrainian
people
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
here.
C
And
we
we
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
and
to
present
this,
it's
very
important
to
us.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
And
you're
welcome
to
your
yes,
you
don't
have
to
stay,
but
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
here
and
please
stay
in
touch.
Please
stay
in
touch
with
us
all
right.
Commissioners.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
recognition
of
the
recipient
of
the
order
of
the
longleaf
pine
society
and
of
mr
walt
ward
and
heath
smith
from
our
veterans.
Service
office
is
here
to
help
present
this
item.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
with
us.
D
D
I
was
thinking
about
trying
to
paint
a
picture
about
what
walt
has
meant
to
our
office
and
the
veteran
community
in
buncombe
county
and
even
the
state
of
north
carolina,
and
I
think
I
would
probably
fail
tremendously
in
that
endeavor.
So
what
I
wanted
to
do.
Real
quick
was
read
the
nomination
letter
that
I
sent
the
governor's
office
it'll
take
a
quick
second
here
and
hopefully
that
can
fill
in
some
of
the
gaps.
D
I'm
writing
this
letter
of
recommendation
for
everett
walton
ward
walt
has
been
a
veteran
service
officer
in
buncombe
county
for
over
a
decade.
Now
I
have
been
walt's
direct
supervisor
for
the
past
three
years
and
prior
to
this,
his
colleague
for
two.
I
cannot
overstate
walt's
impact
in
our
office
and
to
the
veteran
population
of
western
north
carolina
walt's
entire
adult
life
has
been
in
service
to
his
country.
D
He
has
honorably
served
in
the
peace
corps,
the
united
states
air
force
and
spent
the
last
40
plus
years
in
service
to
our
nation's
veterans,
at
the
department
of
veteran
affairs
and
in
the
buncombe
county
veterans
service
office.
Walt
is
a
true
leader
who
has
developed
an
almost
unmatched
base
of
knowledge
in
this
line
of
work.
D
In
the
description
of
this
award,
it
states
for
persons
who
have
made
significant
contributions
to
the
state
and
their
communities
through
their
service
and
ex
exceptional
accomplishments.
I
can't
think
of
anyone
more
deserving
than
walt
ward.
His
leadership,
knowledge,
work,
ethic
and
demeanor
will
be
nearly
impossible
to
replace
having
walt
as
a
colleague
and
subordinate
for
the
past.
Five
years
has
been
one
of
the
most
valued
professional
experiences
of
my
life.
E
Thank
you.
The
last
10
years
have
been
the
most
rewarding
part
of
my
professional
career.
Malcolm
counties
can
be
proud
of
the
services
we
provide
to
veterans
the
hospital,
the
abccm
world-class
homeless
program
for
veterans.
It's
been
my
pleasure
and
honor
to
be
involved
with
all
that.
Thank
you.
A
Commissioners,
we
now
come
to
public
comment
and
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
who
have
signed
up
so
I
am
it
is
we
have
sometimes
when
we
have
had
very
long,
very
large
numbers
of
people
sign
up.
We
have
sometimes
made
some
decisions
around
how
long
we're
going
to
do
public
comment,
because
this
could
very
well
go
on
maybe
several
hours
if
we
got
to
everyone.
So
in
the
past
we
have
sometimes
said
we
would
limit
it
to
one
hour.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
check
in
with
this
with
the
commissioners
to
see
if
we
want
to
set
some
time
parameter
on
this
item.
There's
a
lot
of
folks
here
who
want
to
speak
about
support
for
big
ivy,
there's
also
some
folks
who
want
to
talk
about
the
dollar
general.
I
think
the
zoning
issue
there
and
their
other,
I
think
that's
the
large
majority,
if
there's
folks
who
are
here,
have
other
comments
they
want
to
make.
A
I
would
want
to
recognize
them
just
to
make
sure
that
if
there's
other
issues
that
people
want
to
speak
to
the
commission
about
that,
they
don't
get
not
heard
and
before
we
before
we
proceed
further
on
this.
I
do
want
to
just
share
with
the
folks
who
are
here
to
talk
about
big
ivy
and
there's
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
overflow
room.
So
I
hope
that
they
can.
They
can
hear
us
too.
We
had
a
great
presentation
during
our
briefing
meeting
this
afternoon.
A
From
will
harlan
from
friends
of
big
ivy
did
a
great
job.
The
county
commission
has
adopted
two
previous
resolutions
supporting
protection
for
big
ivy
and
based
on
what
we
learned
from
from
will
earlier
today.
A
The
commission
has
invited
friends
of
big
ivy
to
present
the
county
with
proposed
language,
so
that
we
can
file
a
formal
objection,
comment
to
the
forest
service
in
support
so
that
we
can
support
full
protection
of
big
ivy.
So
I
I
anticipate
that
we'll
do
that
at
our
next
meeting.
So
thanks
for
everyone's
work
on
that-
and
I
think
the
county's
totally
on
board
with
your
efforts
all
right,
so
consensus
that
we
won't
go
more
than
an
hour.
A
I'm
sorry
if
there's
some
folks
who
won't
get
hurt,
but
maybe
we'll
try.
I
just
encourage
everyone
to
speak.
You've
got
up
to
three
minutes,
but
if
you
can
make
your
point
sooner,
it
means
more
of
your
neighbors
can
can
get
hurt
in
this
process
too.
So
brevity
is
valued.
The
first
person
who
signed
up
is
sophia
who's
here
to
talk
about
the
dollar
general,
so
come
on
up.
A
F
Right,
thank
you,
commissioners.
I'm
matt
barker,
I'm
from
swananoa
with
a
group
that
is
organizing
as
swannan
owens
for
respectful
development,
I'm
here
to
with
the
encouragement
of
state
representative
john
eger,
to
bring
to
your
attention
violations
of
department
of
transportation
policy
in
the
driveway
placement
of
the
dollar
general
in
swananoa
on
roland
road.
F
F
F
The
driveway
permit
issued
to
the
developer
is
unambiguous,
and
the
requirement
is
that
a
driveway
off
a
corner
of
an
intersection
have
at
least
100
feet
of
corner
clearance,
that
is,
to
allow
traffic
turning
in
off
us-70
to
not
collide
with
traffic
leaving
the
dollar
general
store.
At
the
same
time,
this
is
not
a
minor
violation
at
the
dollar
general
in
swannanoa.
F
The
the
permit
calls
for
the
driveway
to
be
placed
120
feet
from
us
70..
It
is
not
it's
supposed
to
have
100
feet
of
corner
clearance.
It
does
not
view
of
the
site
plan
and
measurements
on
site
confirm
that
this
driveway
placement
falls
far
short
of
that
minimum
requirement
and
creates
a
dangerous
situation
for
drivers
in
our
community.
F
F
100
foot
minimum
the
language
of
the
permit
that
the
developer
filled
out
himself
says
that
it
will
be
120
feet
north
of
us
70..
It
is
not
6.5
feet.
We've
already
had
a
near-miss
collision
in
that
location
that
a
neighbor
has
reported
to
us.
I
urge
you
look
at
this
document
become
as
outraged
as
we
are
and
tell
ncdot.
They
have
to
inspect
this
driveway
immediately
close
this
driveway
immediately
and
require
the
developer
to
revise
their
site
plan
and
conform,
an
absolute
conformance
to
nc
dot
policy
as
their
permit
requires.
F
G
As
you
well
know,
swannanoa
is
one
of
the
few
untapped
areas
major
for
major
development
in
bunken
county
when
I
purchased
my
home
in
2006,
the
swannanoa
real
estate
agent
at
the
time
said
hold
on
to
your
asset
development's
coming
your
way
within
the
next
10
to
15
years.
During
that
time,
I've
worked
really
hard.
G
Learning
the
history
of
the
swannanoa
valley
reaching
out
to
us
residents
doing
my
part
to
find
common
ground
where
development
and
zoning
is
concerned,
so
that
we
all
might
be
able
to
come
to
the
table
to
join
forces
to
see
respectful
and
safe
development
happen
in
our
area.
Can
I
take
this
off
as
you?
G
As
you
also
probably
know,
swannanoa
was
in
a
heated
debate
over
revised
zoning
incorporation
several
years
ago.
Ultimately,
those
two
things
did
not
happen.
We
were
left
at
the
mercy
of
buncombe
county
planning
department
with
very
little
zoning
rules.
Thankfully
buncombe
county
steering
committee
has
been
formed
in
future
plans
for
our
area
are
in
the
process
of
being
made.
That
being
said,
the
current
situation,
with
dollar
general
being
built
adjacent
to
my
child's
playground
on
one
side,
a
neighborhood
on
two
other
sides
and
a
dangerous
intersection
on
us.
G
G
We
are
not
opposed
to
development,
but
we
are
going
to
be
insistent
that
the
safety
of
our
residents
come.
First,
we
have
neighbors
families
and
children's
to
consider.
This
is
a
major
pathway
for
art
space
drop
off
and
pick
up.
So
we
have
we.
We
have
to
put
this
as
a
priority.
There
is
always
an
increased
traffic
in
the
area
and
the
neighborhood
has
come
to
deal
with
that,
but
this
is
a
this
is
a
building
on
top
of
of
it
and
is
increasing
our
risk.
G
H
Thank
you.
I'd
live
on
rolling
road
and
I
was
afraid
I
was
going
to
do
this,
but
we
are
very
concerned
about
the
safety
of
our
children,
the
neighbors
and,
what's
going
to
do
to
our
neighborhood,
we
need
help
with
this.
That
interest
is
very,
very
dangerous.
You
cannot
take
a
freight
delivery,
50
feet
and
try
to
go
in
at
the
angle
that
is
presently
there.
H
They
will
have
to
squeak
out.
They'll
have
to
swing
out
to
highway
70
just
to
get
into
roland
road.
Roland
road
is
a
neighborhood
side
street.
It
was
never
designed
for
a
commercial
property
and
I
understand
ns.
I
understand
residential.
I
know
I
know
all
of
that,
but
my
eyes
tell
me
different
and
my
neighbors.
Everyone
are
very
concerned
not
to
mention
what
it's
going
to
do
to
the
value
of
our
property.
H
I
Hi,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
this
opportunity
to
speak
on
behalf
of
my
family
and
community.
Again,
my
name
is
gabrielle
price.
My
husband
and
my
three
children
are
residents
of
roland
road.
In
swannanoa,
we
live
approximately
300
feet
from
the
proposed
dollar
general
site
that
is
being
planned
on
rolling
road
previous
to
the
construction
of
the
dollar
general.
I
often
feared
for
the
safety
of
my
family
when
pulling
off
or
onto
highway
70
via
roland's
road.
I
A
All
right,
thank
you
all
right,
I'm
going
to
list
the
next
several
speakers
so
that
folks
can
kind
of
be
prepared
to
to
speak
and
if
you're
in
one
of
the
overflow
areas
you
could
come
on
in.
If
you
hear
your
name
called
so,
you
can
be
sort
of
lined
up.
The
next
speaker
is
bob
wagner
and
then
following
bob
we'll
have
ed
stein
and
anna
littman
and
then
emily
disnoff.
J
Hey
bob
all
right,
hello,
my
name
is
bob
wagner
and
I'm
one
of
the
co-directors
at
mountain.
True
and
I'll
keep
my
comments
short
based
on
brownies,
commissioner,
and
his
comments
earlier
and
talking
to
will
harlan.
So
mountain
true's
mission
is
to
champion
resilient
forests,
clean
waters
and
healthy
communities
in
the
southern
blue
ridge.
We
have
over
16
000
members
over
5,
000
of
them
in
buncombe
county.
J
J
J
We
want
to
thank
the
buncombe
county
commission
for
its
past
emphasis
on
the
importance
of
this
area
and
given
the
recent
forest
plan
proposal,
which
threatens
this
treasured
area,
we
hope
that
the
commission
will
once
again
affirm
its
support
for
protecting
all
of
craggy
and
big
ivy.
Thank
you
all.
A
Right
thanks
bob
all
right,
ed
stein,
and
while
it's
coming
up
lamar,
I've
got
a
question.
I've
got
this
one
sign-in
sheet,
but
is
there
there's
another
one
right?
There's
two:
do
you
have
those
okay.
K
That's
before
you,
some
of
you
may
recall
what
the
davidson
river
area
in
brevard
was
like
when
that
area
depended
on
forest
products
as
part
of
its
economic
engine,
they've
converted
over
to
a
recreational
economy,
and
it's
better
for
the
forest
and
it's
better
for
the
community,
and
the
same
thing
can
be
happening
here
to
have
that
kind
of
forest
at
that
kind
of
elevation
threatened
by
logging
in
this
day
and
age.
Is
it's
unfathomable
for
the
reasons
that
mr
wagner
just
mentioned?
L
A
Yep,
thank
you.
Thank
you
guys.
Yes,
I
was
lamar
was
just
saying
once
you've
spoken.
If
you
could
exit
the
commission
chambers,
because
we
do
have
a
big
overflow
area,
so
it'd
be
great,
to
have
other
folks
be
able
to
come
in
and
get
a
seat
in
the
commission
chambers
thanks
lamar
all
right
go
ahead.
M
M
You
are
going
to
see
tonight
that
there
are
lots
of
people
who
who
feel
very
strongly
about
this
issue.
As
a
farmer,
the
the
iv,
the
headwaters
of
the
ivy
river,
are
about
two
miles
from
my
farm.
When
I
was
looking
for
a
farm
in
farmland,
the
quality
of
the
water
was
incredibly
important
to
me.
We
looked
for
four
years,
I'm
here
representing
my
farm,
but
I'm
also
here
representing
my
neighbors
big
ivy
is
a
community
of
farmers,
and
the
waters
are
incredibly
important
to
us.
Recreation
is
incredibly
important
to
us.
M
Our
community
has
come
together
in
so
many
ways
as
farmers
as
people
who
love
to
hike
as
people
who
see
the
importance
of
of
this
resource.
To
the
generations
who
have
been
there
for
hundreds
of
years,
my
neighbors
love
the
forest
just
as
much
as
I
do.
They
love
to
go
ramp
hunting,
and
so
we
all
support
it,
and
we
all
appreciate
it,
and
we
all
appreciate
you
being
willing
to
being
willing
to
hear
us
tonight.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
up
is
emily
dusnoff.
N
I'm
not
dr
disney,
but
I
hope
you'll
accept
me
as
a
poor
substitute
pam
evans
for
the
southern
environmental
law
center
and
want
to
thank
the
commission
for
your
leadership
on
this
issue
and
for
being
willing
to
participate
in
the
formal
processes
that
res
the
bureaucratic
processes
that
result
in
a
forest
plan.
The
to
this
point
in
the
history
of
big
ivy,
the
only
thing
that
has
really
protected
that
area
has
been
the
show
of
people
and
public
support
for
protections.
N
The
forest
service
has
never
put
it
beyond
its
reach.
You
know
the
forest
service
has
always
wanted
to
leave
the
opportunity
to
go
in
there
and
do
and
do
timber
production,
and
they
have
in
the
past,
gone
in
there
to
do
timber
production,
not
at
the
levels
that
would
permanently
impair
the
area.
There's
still
so
much
good
stuff
left
in
it.
N
N
That
would
keep
all
these
people
from
having
to
show
up
periodically
to
say
we
still
care
about
big
ivy
until
that
happens,
you
know
we're
we're
counting
on
the
support
from
the
commission
and
the
easiest
way
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
in
the
future
is
to
get
this
plan
right
now
and
what
it's
going
to
take
to
get
the
plan
right
now
is
to
participate
in
the
objection
process.
This
is
a
pre-decisional
objection
process,
so
I
want
to
be
clear
that
the
forest
service
has
not
finalized
its
plan.
N
It's
got
a
final
ish
plan
now,
and
this
is
the
time
when
it
wants
to
hear
from
the
public.
I
think
I
was
very
disappointed,
as
as
many
of
us
were,
that
consensus
recommendations
were
not
adopted
in
the
final
ish
plan
and
of
all
those
consensus
recommendations.
Protection
for
big
ivy
was
the
had
the
most
unanimity.
A
All
right
next
up
is
and
apologize.
If
I
mispronounce
is
braithen
after
that
will
be
don
yelton,
then
john
kelleher
and
jenny
wilds,
and
for
folks
who
are
not
in
the
commission
chambers.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
extra
seats
open
now.
So
if
you
hear
your
name
called,
you
can
come
on
up
and
it's
probably
a
seat
available
to
sit
in
while
you're
waiting.
P
Hello,
my
name
is
rob
linfesty,
I'm
the
owner
of
mandala
chocolate,
mandala
springs.
My
property
actually
shares
two
sides
with
the
section
of
forest
in
question,
and
first
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
continued
support.
Like
the
community
recognizes
you
as
allies,
and
I
want
to
first
share
my
appreciation
for
you.
P
I've
personally
helped
to
raise
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
for
the
conservation
of
forest
ecosystems
around
the
globe.
I
am
a
conservation
ecologist
and
I
am
probably
the
single
most
intimate
person
with
this
particular
piece
of
land.
I
know
it
comprehensively.
P
I
know
the
springs,
the
little
pockets
of
incredible
biodiversity,
the
boulder
fields-
and
I
can
tell
you
that
it
is
inequitably,
not
a
place
that
can
be
logged
if
it's
assessed
properly.
This
is
a
section
of
forest
that
is,
amongst
the
most
prime
examples
that
we
have
on
the
planet
of
biodiversity,
and
it
is
precious.
P
This
is
future
generations.
This
is
the
forest
that
we
love.
This
is
the
place
that
we
go
to
find
solace,
to
connect
with
ourselves
and
to
connect
with
the
beautiful
nature
of
this
region
that
we
call
home
and
yeah.
It
will
be
protected
one
way
or
another,
so
we
once
again
appreciate
your
continued
support.
This
message
is
addressed
to
the
local
community.
P
To
please
stand
up
and
to
please
share
your
voice
and
take
part
in
helping
us
to
protect
this
and
to
the
u.s
forest
service
that
there
is
consensus,
a
wide
consensus
on
the
protection
of
this,
and
we
hope
that
they
recognize
acknowledge
and
respond
to
that
consensus
by
also
designating
this
part
of
our
beautiful
pisgah
national
forest
for
protection.
Thank
you.
Q
Hello
and
thank
you
for
your
presence
today
and
thank
you
for
hearing
all
these
voices,
and
you
know
sharing
your
thoughts
before
we
got
started
that
you
know
this
feels
like
a
unanimous
decision
to
protect
the
space.
Q
Q
You
know
going
out
and
hiking
going
with
their
family
to
these
places
going
and
seeing
you
know
the
beauty
that
that
is
in
this
land
and
30
times
more
income
is
created
through
recreation
than
logging,
75
percent
of
jobs
in
rural
communities
come
from
recreation.
Q
We
have
medication,
natural
medication,
things
that
people
synthesize
into
pills
into
other
forms
of
you
know:
health
care
for
everyone,
but
natural
medication.
You
know,
there's
there's
biodiversity
out
there
that
can
fight
things
like
cancer
increase.
You
know
health
benefits
like
stress
relief,
reducing
blood
pressure
and
strengthening
the
immune
system.
O
O
A
tree
dies
when
it
can't
fix
enough
co2
that
horrible
pollutant
co2
to
build
up
enough
mass
to
have
that
live
ring
around
the
tree.
You
all
familiar
with
that
live
ring
around
the
tree,
because
the
middle
of
the
tree
is
heartwood,
it's
not
alive
anymore
and
when
it
can't
fix
enough
carbon
to
do
that,
it
dies
and
when
it
dies.
If
it's
a
big
large
tree,
what
does
it
do?
It
destroys
a
lot
of
vegetation
and
it
lays
on
the
ground.
O
It's
now
got
dead
hemlock
all
over
the
place
and
if
a
fire
breaks
out
there,
katie
bar
the
door,
so
trees
will
die.
Now
your
forest
service
plan
said
that
there
was
areas
that
needed
new
growth.
How
you
going
to
get
it
you're
going
to
get
it
one
of
these
ways,
you're
going
to
manage
it
and
pull
the
trees
out
which,
by
the
way,
the
trees
produce
lumber
and
what
is
lumber
used
for
to
build,
affordable
housing
or
is
it
unaffordable?
O
O
I
beg
you
to
please
and
you
will
see
what
an
unmanaged
uncontrolled
uncut
forest
looks
like,
and
my
dad
used
was
the
one
of
the
people
involved
in
hauling
the
timber
out
of
the
coma
boundary
when
it
was
first
cut
and
the
only
job
he
had
at
13
when
he
was
kicked
out
of
his
house
was
working
in
a
sawmill,
so
you're
talking
to
somebody
that
knows
it.
That's
lived
it
and
seen
it
go.
O
So
I
beg
you.
I
can
give
you
a
whole
lot
more,
but
I
don't
want
to
burden
you
with
it,
because
somebody
would
put
the
word
out
and
everybody
flocks
in
and,
as
you
can
see,
I'm
not
talking
about
any
particular
project.
I'm
not
talking
about
save
the
ivy
or
whatever.
I'm
talking
about
the
facts
that
you
all
need
to
consider
and
I'll
give
you
a
favor
I'll,
give
you
19
seconds
extra.
R
According
to
the
site
plan,
the
only
driveway
for
the
store
will
empty
into
rowland
road,
which
is
literally
it's
about
40
feet
from
my
living
room
window,
and
so
every
car
that
exits,
the
dollar
general,
will
shine
its
lights
365
days
a
year
into
my
living
room,
rowan
road
is
too
narrow,
and
the
distance
from
the
corner
is
too
short
for
longer
vehicles
to
make
the
turn
without
encroaching
in
my
yard
and
possibly
hitting
the
cars
that
are
parked
there.
R
Although
I
did
not
witness
it,
damage
has
already
been
done
to
the
landscaping
timbers
in
my
yard,
probably
by
construction
equipment,
art
space
school
parents
already
use
our
neighborhood
roads
as
part
of
their
pickup
and
drop
off
lanes
every
day,
which
causes
delay
in
traffic
twice
a
day
every
day
during
the
school
year.
Speaking
for
myself,
I'm
very
happy
to
have
art
space
as
one
of
our
neighbors.
I
love
having
the
school
there.
I
wish
art
space
could
purchase
the
lot
where
the
dollar
general
is
going.
R
I
believe,
they're
an
asset
to
the
community.
The
traffic
that
dollar
general
adds
will
be
a
tipping
point.
I
think
we
are
already
there's
already
way
too
much
traffic
with
the
pickup
and
drop-off
traffic
and
my
driveway's
often
blocked
by
that
traffic.
R
The
lot
is
surrounded
by
on
three
sides
by
residential
zoning.
We
thought
that
r1
zoning
would
offer
protections
to
the
homeowners
from
anything
that
would
detract
from
our
ability
to
enjoy
our
own
property
without
the
intrusion
of
the
extra
traffic,
commercial
lighting,
delivery,
trucks,
foot
traffic
and
possible
crime.
That
dollar
general
will
bring
we're
asking
that
the
construction
be
halted
until
the
situation
can
be
reevaluated.
S
I
always
know
it's
me
when
people
pause
it
before
the
last
name
right,
hi
good
evening.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
hearing
from
all
of
us.
I
hope
that
you
brought
coffee
or
something
to
keep
you
awake
with
the
masses
that
have
just
been
both
overwhelming
and
wonderful
to
see
coming
out
for
this
forest.
S
This
critically
important
and
rare
forest
is
designated
as
a
priority
logging
area
and
the
area
in
which,
I'm
speaking,
is
the
4
000
acres
of
the
north
fork,
which
is
part
of
a
larger
tract
of
big
ivy
and
craggy
area.
That
we're
all
aware
of
and
thank
you
for
your
historic
support
of
this
proposal,
and
we
hope
that
you'll
continue
to
support
this
proposal
moving
forward.
S
I
can
tell
you:
I've
had
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
flood
damage
in
previous
years
in
the
last
four
years
since
I
began
residing
on
this
particular
piece
of
property-
and
we
know
this
is
only
going
to
increase
as
climate
change
intensifies
rainfall
and
we
see
erosion
from
both
logging
on
private
and
hopefully
not
but
potentially
public
lands
as
a
statewide
leader
in
conservation
in
buncombe
county,
and
also
a
big
ivy
member.
S
I'm
here
today
in
my
official
capacity
with
the
sierra
club
supporting
winoka,
the
western
north
carolina
sierra
club,
as
well
as
an
expecting
mother,
which
you
can't
see
who
is
overwhelmed
by
being
out
in
the
world
right
now.
But
this
is
a
very
important
issue
to
me.
So,
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
listen.
S
Winoka
has
come
before
the
commission
in
the
past
to
endorse
the
proposed
craggy
national
big
excuse
me,
craggy
mountain
in
big
ivy,
national
scenic
area
and
we've
appreciated
that
support
in
the
past.
What
we
hope
now
is
that
you
will
continue
to
support
that
in
the
formal
objection
period.
S
Winoka
and
many
other
organizations
in
which
you're
hearing
from
tonight
have
all
been
formally
involved
in
that,
and
we
know
you
all
hopefully
will
support
that
as
well
as
we
continue
this
final
leg
of
the
plan
and
hope
that
when
they
get
the
final
plan
out,
they
will
hear
our
voices,
your
voices
and
our
community
and
put
the
needs
of
the
community
and
the
desires
of
our
community
ahead
of
the
forest
services
economic
decision
and
the
decision
makers
at
the
top
of
that
line.
S
We
believe
that
all
of
craggy
is
considered
important,
not
just
the
area
in
which
they
have
currently
put
into
a
scenic
area,
but
the
4
000
acres
is
all
part
of
that
larger
forest
that
we
really
want
to
see
and
have
it
remain
intact.
And
so
that's
really
what
I'm
here
tonight
with
sierra
club
and
both
as
a
resident
at
the
base
of
this,
this
mountain
and
this
river,
asking
you
to
sign
on
to
the
proposal
and
formally
object
to
this
in
during
this
coming
period.
Thank
you
all
right.
A
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
check
and
see
if
a
couple
of
the
folks
who
we
called
on
earlier
have
are
here:
john
kelleher,
james
heinel,
gina,
elrod,
all
right.
The
next
folks
who
have
signed
up
victoria,
reiser,
catherine
pesky,
elise,
demolatus,
karen
hyman,
hey.
T
Thank
you
very
much
for
letting
me
speak,
I'm
standing
here
as
a
full-time,
long-term
resident
of
big
ivy
and
craggy
gardens,
and
I'm
grateful
that
you
have
in
the
past,
protected
with
your
words
and
and
measures.
This
logging
proposal
for
the
big,
ivy
and
craggy
gardens
federal
forests,
and
I'm
asking
you
of
course,
to
continue
to
do
that.
T
Conserving
these
trees
is
also
key
to
making
our
communities
and
lands
more
climate
resilient,
as
they
are
the
most
fire
resilient.
You
can
see
the
impact
fire
has
had
in
other
parts
of
our
country.
It's
foolish
for
us
to
ignore
these
facts
on
behalf
of
the
people,
the
forests,
the
animals
and
all
of
us
who
value
our
interconnection
and
their
continued
existence,
including
the
people
who
travel
from
far
and
wide
to
experience
them
as
eco-tourists
in
our
area.
T
T
A
U
Hi,
I'm
catherine
pesch.
Thank
you
guys
for
letting
me
speak
tonight.
I'm
a
senior
environmental
student
at
unca
and
during
my
four
years
here,
I've
grown
a
great
appreciation
for
our
forest,
and
I've
spent
much
time
as
a
student,
exploring
them
and
studying
them.
As
someone
who
is
now
responsible
for
the
future
of
our
environment,
it
is
very
concerning
to
me
we
cannot
continue
to
use
our
natural
resources
at
the
rate
that
we
are
going.
U
U
V
V
V
One
thing
that
we're
talking
about
is
using
recyclable
materials.
The
things
that
we
see
around
us
today
that
we
use-
and
I
I've
been
to
a
lot
of
communities
where
we've
seen
that
I've
come
here
even
during
covet
and
seen
the
mutual
aid
that
took
place
and
what
we
are
looking
at
in
fossil
fuel
industry,
as
well
as
the
logging
industry,
everything
that
is
detrimental
to
mother
earth.
V
She
doesn't
need
us,
but
what
I'm
here
today
is
to
ask
this
commission
is
to
seriously
look
at
what
is
it
that
we
can
do
as
people
to
come
together
on
a
common
ground?
We
know
that
we
have
to
do
something
immediately
to
stop
this
climate
crisis
that
we're
in
we
hear
it
all
over
the
place.
V
We
have
to
start
really
seriously
focusing
on
how
do
we
protect
one
another?
We've
just
been
through
a
crisis
situation.
We
see
what
people
had
to
go
through
when
the
food
shortage
is
cut
off.
We
are
now
looking
at
supply
chains
being
stopped,
but
more
than
anything
else
there
is
a
war
that
seriously
affects
us
and
if
you
look
at
the
things
that
they're
doing
in
sanctioning
these
countries
we're
just
the
people,
the
indigenous
peoples
of
this
land,
who
have
been
taken
advantage
of
quite
a
bit.
V
The
history
of
this
area
here
was
stolen
and
we
hear
that
stone
and
land
on
stone
and
land.
What
I
ask
you
is
well,
we
ask
you
to
give
it
back,
but
we
don't
know
that
we
know
that
that's
not
going
to
happen.
So
what
we
ask
you
to
do,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
your
time.
Here's
help
us
to
protect
it
and
understand
that
you
know
this
is
cherokee
land.
Thank
you.
A
W
I'm
karen
hyman
and
I've
been
a
scientist
in
this
area
for
almost
40
years
now
and
have
some
family
that
goes
way
back
and
I'm
going
to
cut
my
talk
short
because
a
lot
of
people
said
everything
already.
I
do
beg
to
differ
for
the
one
gentleman
was
here
talking
about
the
hemlock
trees
that
we
need
to
be
managing,
so
trees
don't
die
and
obviously
we
don't
need
to
be
cutting
down
trees
to
keep
them
from
dying
and
hemlocks
wouldn't
be
harvested
for
timber
anyway.
W
Anyway,
thank
you
all
for
being
supportive
of
this,
and
we
hope
that
someday.
We
can
both
affect
the
forest
plan
and
also
have
this
is
north
carolina's.
First
national
scenic
area,
because
we
are
the
ones
who
determine
the
sustainability
in
the
future
for
buncombe
county
and
the
forest
plan
is
not
listen
to
the
public
or
the
science
enough
in
its
in
the
current
version.
W
The
forest
service
prominently
displays
one
of
his
core
goals
of
upholding
biodiversity
and,
since
big
ivy
is
one
of
the
top
three
places
in
the
nana
health,
fiscal
for
old
growth,
good
quality,
forests
that
buffer
the
old
growth
and
biodiversity.
Why
would
we
not
keep
this
gem
old
growth?
Forests
are
incredibly
rare,
we're
down
to
about
maybe
one
percent
in
the
eastern
u.s
of
old
growth.
W
That's
still
remaining
so
much
has
already
slipped
through
our
fingers,
and
we've
also
learned
that
old
growth
is
completely
irreplaceable
and
once
it's
gone
it's
gone,
you
can
never
recreate
the
forest.
It's
like
bulldozing
the
art,
museums
or
whatever
you're,
saying
you'll
paint
new
paintings,
except
for
these
forests
have
even
been
going
on
for
thousands
of
years
much
longer.
W
W
We've
been
doing
this
fight
now
for
27
years
with
the
last
plan.
With
this
plan,
we
hope
this
time
we
can
get
some
real
protection
and
also
get
the
permanent
protection
through
the
scenic
area.
At
one
time,
the
atlanta
constitution
included
a
quote
from
the
smithsonian
institute,
calling
the
old
growth
of
big
ivy
heirlooms
of
forestry.
W
A
All
right
thanks.
The
folks
who
signed
up
next
are:
will
harlan
jennifer
elaine
miles
woody,
then
sharon,
sherrod,
brady
and
lori
tinnerman.
X
Yeah,
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
I
almost
didn't
just
because
people
have
already
said
so
much
of
what
I
wanted
to
say,
but
I
feel
very
strongly
about
this
area.
I'm
a
resident
I
live
in
barnardsville.
I
went
to
the
community
center
in
big
ivy.
Probably
I
guess
it
was
in
2014
or
2015
one
of
those
two
years,
probably
to
protest.
This
very
thing.
X
This
very
threat
to
that
area
came
again
here
to
this
building
with
my
son,
when
there
was
a
meeting
regarding
the
same
issue,
and
I
guess
I
find
it
unfortunate
that,
even
though,
over
and
over
again
the
people
who
live
here
and
this
commission
express
the
desire
to
keep
this
area
protected,
it
continues
to
be
threatened.
X
It's
I
don't.
I
don't
understand
why
that
that
has
to
be
that
way.
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
I
would
like
to
re-emphasize
the
points
that
have
already
been
made
about
the
irreplaceability
of
the
biodiversity
in
this
area
and
also
just
I.
I
would
like
to
also
emphasize
the
fact
that
not
everything
can
be
measured
in
dollars
dollars,
don't
fully
measure
the
value
of
a
place
or
other
people,
they
don't
measure
the
va.
X
For
those
who
are
not
unable
to
see
the
world
in
any
other
way,
then
they
can
hopefully
recognize
that
ecotourism
brings
in
dollars
that
the
property
values
in
the
area,
which
would
be
severely
impacted
in
a
negative
way
if
the
logging
goes
through,
would
also
you
know
that
that
can
be
viewed
in
terms
of
dollars,
but
I
would
hope
to
appeal
to
a
higher
sense
of
what
is
right
in
in
so
many
ways
beyond
the
needs
and
wants
of
human
beings
to
extend
to
the
biodiversity
of
the
plants
and
animals
and
just
to
the
to
the
va.
X
The
mental
health
value
of
that
area
is
amazing,
especially
in
the
times
of
kovid,
just
to
have
a
place
to
go
to
to
find
some
peace,
and
something
that's
not
attached
to
anything
that
humans
have
created
is
is
worth
some
it's
beyond
words.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
It's
okay,
so
we've
only
got
about
10
minutes
left,
there's
about
50,
more
people
who
signed
up
so
we're
only
going
to
be
able
to
do
a
few
more.
I
apologize
for
that.
So
for
the
folks
to
I
call
on
next.
If
you
do
want
to
keep
your
comments,
brief
that'd
be
great
because
it
means
we'll
be
able
to
hear
from
a
few
more
folks
miles.
Woody
sherrod,
brady,
lori
timmerman
chelsea
wachstein
are
the
next
folks
who've
signed
any
of
those
folks
here,
yeah
coming
up.
Y
I'm
miles
woody-
and
I
wouldn't
be
here
today
if
I
wasn't
like
scared
for
my
future
and
my
peers
future
with
what's
going
on
to
the
earth
right
now,
and
it
is
scary
to
be
in
a
position
where
you
have
no
power
over
all
of
these
decisions
that
are
being
made
by
older
and
more
powerful
people,
but
that
will,
in
the
long
run,
be
affecting
you.
Y
So
I
just
want
to
say
that,
like
think
about
the
the
future
and
what
this
is
doing
to
people,
you
know,
like
your
grandkids,
think
about
what
they're
going
to
be
living
through.
If
they'll
be
able
to
see
all
the
beautiful
forests
that
maybe
you
grew
up
in,
or
you
grew
up
around
that
you
had
the
luxury
to
go,
see
as
a
kid.
Y
The
future
generations
might
not
have
those
luxuries.
So
I
just
want
to
remind
you
that
it's
not
your
future
that
you're
deciding
in
the
long
run
when
you
take
the
earth
away
from
other
people,
and
I
also
have
a
comment
from
my
friend
thunder.
Who
would
like
me
to
say
and
remind
everyone
that
it's
your
duty
as
a
non-indigen
as
non-indigenous
people
who
have
the
power
to
decide
the
fate
of
our
remaining
land
to
preserve
as
much
as
possible?
The
land
does
not
belong
to
any
of
you
or
most
of
us
who
are
listening.
Y
Z
Oh
and
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak,
I
have
lived
in
the
barnsville
area
for
over
35
years,
so
this
is
very
near
and
dear
to
me.
So
once
again,
here
we
are
again
trying
to
save
this
incredible
land
that
does
not
need
to
be
logged.
The
boundary
is
unique:
it's
rich!
It's
got
rare
plant
and
wildlife,
wildflower
species,
old
growth,
forest
and
some
of
the
most
pristine
water.
Z
I've
ever
seen,
and
it's
also
the
water
that
weavervale
and
local
communities
depend
on
logging,
would
also
seriously
compromise
all
of
this,
along
with
countless
wildlife
that
make
this
their
home.
Additionally,
logging
would
cause
significant
erosion
of
the
mountains
and
I'm
afraid
that
once
the
longing
and
clear
cutting
begin
that
it
just
will
never
end.
Z
AA
AA
AA
AA
So
this
is
an
issue
of
people
over
profit
of
community
over
corporations,
and
I
recommend
that
the
buncombe
county
commission
should
object
to
the
forest
service
plan
to
log
4,
000
acres
of
big
ivy,
so
I
and
in
doing
that
it
supports
protecting
ancient
forests,
waterfalls,
rare
species,
biological
diversity,
pamer,
panoramic
vistas
and
clean
water
for
our
generation
and
future
generations.
AA
A
Okay,
thanks:
I've
got
time
for
a
couple:
more
chelsea
wax
stein
scott
who
lives
on
30,
scott
yeah.
Sorry,
I'm
having
trouble.
It
starts
with
a
lot
k
in
your
last
name,
yeah.
Coming
up.
Sorry,
I'm
just
not
good.
At
reading
handwriting,
sometimes.
AB
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
listening
to
all
of
us
speak
and
taking
the
time,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
commission
for
in
the
past,
protecting
this
area
from
being
logged
and
I'm
resident
of
barnardsville,
and
I
walk
through
those
forests,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
value
to
me
and
many
others
and
as
many
people
have
said,
old
growth.
Forests
are
irreplaceable,
like
can't
really
put
a
value
on
this
kind
of
ecology
that
took
thousands
of
years
to
create
and
would
take
more
than
thousands
of
years
to
recreate
once
clear-cut.
AB
And
so
I
wanted
to
just
put
my
voice
in
to
this
commission
meeting
to
oppose
the
national
forest
service
plan
to
log
this
area
and
just
want
to
say
that
I
am
proud
to
be
part
of
a
county
that
protects
the
old
growth
forests.
AB
And
so
I
appreciate
that
you
all
are
going
to
do
that
and.
AB
A
Right
thanks
scott
okay,
rebecca
at
from
25
lolly
lane,
and
I
also
want
to
ask
so
we
are
about
out
of
time.
Is
there
anybody
else
here,
who's
on
any
other
topics
other
than
big
iv
or
the
dollar
general?
A
AC
Hey
hi,
my
name
is
rebecca
king
and
I
wanted
to
start
out
by
thanking
y'all
for
supporting
big.
I
have
a
and
the
coleman
boundary
in
the
craggy
area.
In
the
past,
I'm
an
asheville
native
born
and
raised
hall
creek.
I
currently
live
in
jupiter,
which
is
right
out
in
that
area,
and
I
spend
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
time
in
the
in
the
forest
out
there.
AC
It
is
very
unique.
The
mountains
here
are
just
incredible
and
they
have
my
soul.
That's
the
only
way.
I
know
how
to
describe
it,
and
I
was
really
appalled
that
you
know
that
they're
still
thinking
about
logging,
this
area-
and
I
just
wanted
to
come
out
and
and
say
I
felt
that
way
and
and
like
other
people
have
said
once
something's
gone,
it's
gone,
but
the
whole
climate
change
thing.
You
know
the
ipcc
just
came
out
with
a
report.
AC
AC
All
around
when
fred
came
through
the
crazed.
You
know
once
in
a
hundred
year
tropical
storm
that
flooded
so
many
areas,
including
areas
up
in
the
coleman
boundary.
You
know
when
we
keep
logging
and
taking
our
carbon
sinks
away,
they're
going
to
get
worse
and
it's
going
to
erode
and
it's
just
a
feedback
loop,
and
I
just
would
like
to
ask
the
commission.
I
appreciate
what
I've
done
and
I'd
like
your
continued
support
and
come
together
with
the
community,
with
all
everybody
in
our
community
to
find
a
way
to
protect
this
land
for
us.
A
Right,
thanks
rebecca
all
right:
we've
spent
an
hour
on
taking
public
comment
so
we're
out
of
time
to
take
more.
We
do
have
other
county
commission
business.
We
need
to
take
care
of
this
evening,
but
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
everyone
who
came
out,
as
we
mentioned
before,
the
commission
plans
to
take
up
the
big
iv
issue
at
our
next
county
commission
meeting.
A
The
county
is
formally
on
the
record
supporting
protection
of
big
ivy
and
designation
of
the
whole
area
of
pisgah
there
as
a
national
scenic
area,
as
well
as
the
wilderness
study
area
being
protected
as
wilderness.
So
thanks
for
all
you're
doing
we
appreciate
it.
We
support
you.
This
is
a
completely
unique
area
of
our
beautiful
blue
ridge
mountains.
A
So
we're
with
you
and
we'll
do
anything
we
can
to
support
it
thanks
for
coming
out
tonight,
if
folks
want
to
stay
you're
welcome
to,
but
you
don't
have
to
so,
if
you'd
like
to,
if
you'd
like
to
leave,
feel
free
to
and
again
thanks
for
coming
out
all
right.
A
All
right,
miss
pinder
any
items
on
the
county
managers
report.
AD
AD
We
have
a
remaining
from
the
50
million
about
27
million
available
for
reward
awards.
You
gave
us
10
specific
categories
and
folks
can
go
on
the
website
and
do
that.
It
is
available
until
april.
12Th
is
the
deadline
to
submit
a
proposal
also
starting
on
friday.
The
southern
conference
basketball
tournament
is
back
in
town.
This
is
the
23rd
year
that
we've
hosted
it
here
in
buncombe
county.
So
I
just
want
to
remind
the
community
to
get
out
and
support
it.
There's
different
activities
going
on.
AD
A
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
commissioners.
This
is
a
a
simple
one
that
doesn't
come
around
very
often.
We
have
two
resolutions,
two
separate
items
I
put
them
together
as
such,
because
the
authority
and
reasoning
for
the
asheville
city,
schools,
conveyance
and
agreements
with
asheville
city
schools
is
only
slightly
different
from
that
with
the
falcon
county
schools.
L
First
for
the
pumpkin
county
school
bunker
county
has
owned
the
property
where
eblin
intermediate
is
located
since
2009
acquired
the
property
for
financing
purposes,
then
leased
back
to
the
county
schools
for
their
operations
triple
net
type
lease
that
financing
has
concluded
north
buncombe,
a
high
school
property,
46
acres,
the
county
has
owned
since
2006,
and
those
were
for
some
projects
up
there
in
north
buncombe
several
years
back.
Those
are
again
for
financing
purposes
and
those
financing
documents
have
all
been
paid
in
full.
L
As
for
the
property
with
the
asheville
city
schools,
that's
irb
jones
elementary,
here's,
the
difference
that
was
required
for
permitting
and
administrative
purposes
to
get
the
construction
done
over
there.
That
construction
is
completed.
So
it's
in
order
to
convey
that
property
back
so
both
of
these
are
on.
I
would
just
ask
that
the
board,
if
it's
your
desire,
just
to
convey
these
back
just
one
resolution
at
a
time
as
presented.
L
If
there's
any
questions,
I
would
be
happy
to
try
to
answer
and
we
also
have
a
list
if
you're
curious,
there's
a
number
of
other
properties.
The
county
owns
eight
or
ten,
which
are
under
bond
documents
from
2010
and
15,
which
are
going
to
be
paid
off
over
the
next
20
years,
but
we
have
those
on
the
schedule
and
there
they
are
via
max.
So,
if
there's
any
interest
in
that
those
are
the
other
packages
we
have
ranging
due
dates
from
2025
through
as
far
as
2040.
A
A
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
resolution
authorizing
the
execution
of
non-warranty
d
to
the
asheville
city
board
of
education
so
move?
Second,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you.
Mr
next
up
is
consideration
of
a
resolution
authorizing
the
execution
of
an
amendment
to
the
design,
build
construction
contract
between
buncombe,
county
and
astroturf
corporation
tim
love.
A
Our
interim
recreation
services
director
will
present
this
item,
which
we
had
a
presentation
about
at
our
briefing
meeting.
Recently
that's
correct.
AF
So
this
evening,
I'll
present
an
update
to
you,
I'm
also
joined
by
john
hudson,
who
will
present
information
on
the
budget
amendment
as
needed.
There
are
two
of
them,
but
additionally
have
ronnie
lunsford
here
to
talk
about
any
of
the
specific
questions
about
the
construction
related
to
the
project,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
AF
This
item
is
initially
brought
to
you
at
the
february
15th
meeting
at
briefing
and
so
we're
back
before
you
to
request
action
and
answer
any
questions.
You
have
overview
and
request
as
a
refresher
for
members
of
the
public
and
for
the
commission
as
well.
The
inca
recreation
destination
is
a
recreation.
AF
AF
AF
You
can
see
that
there's
a
greenway,
that's
planned
that
goes
across
the
property
from
the
ap
tech
campus
to
warren
haynes
drive,
which
is
a
residential
habitat
community
that
you're,
probably
familiar
with
you,
can
see
at
the
top
right
corner
a
number
of
fields.
This
represents
the
buncombe
county
sports
park.
AF
The
fields
that
are
in
question
for
turfing
are
right
there
at
the
top
fields,
one
two
and
eight
additionally
towards
the
middle
of
this
project.
You
can
see
bob
lewis
ball
park,
which
is
a
baseball,
complex,
non-profit
owned
where
there
has
been
field
lighting
installed,
that's
been
in
place
since
2019.
AF
As
we
consider
the
the
grant
in
its
entirety,
it's
a
really
big
project
fairly
ambitious
that
sought
to
do
a
number
of
things,
and
you
can
see
those
across
the
left.
You
know
improve
the
sports
park,
expand
the
sports
park
put
in
lighting
at
bob
lewis,
but
also
create
this
trail,
the
inca
heritage
trail,
I've
listed
each
of
the
components
but
on
the
far
right,
also
indicate
which
of
those
items
were
committed
to
in
the
grant
agreement
with
the
tda
and
the
the
general
answer
is
almost
all
of
them,
with
some
exception.
AF
The
the
exception
items
which
we
think
are
important
to
talk
about
with
this
amenity
are
the
construction
of
a
water
line
and
a
future
restroom
as
well
as
parking
on
warren
haynes
drive.
None
of
these
items
were
committed
to
in
the
early
goings
of
the
project.
However,
as
we
look
at
the
project,
think
they're
really
important
to
consider
as
we
move
forward
to
make
this
an
amenity.
That's
you
know
comfortable
for
folks
that
are,
you
know,
bringing
their
families
to
play
soccer
any
day
of
the
week.
AF
AF
AF
When
we
talk
about
the
improvements
at
the
sports
park,
it's
a
lot
about
the
turf,
but
it's
also
about
the
lights.
Those
two
things
combined
allow
us
to
play
more
regularly
when
the
weather's
bad,
but
also
play
later
into
the
evenings
when
it
gets
darker,
got
a
few
site
designs
here
again,
showing
you
the
field
layouts
on
the
left,
but
then
what
those
field
layouts
look
as
we,
we
do
site
designs
and
the
construction
for
this
project.
AF
One
item
that
I'll
touch
on
before
we
transition
to
project
funding.
You
know
I
simplify
the
conversation
by
just
saying
this
is
about
turf
and
lights,
there's
other
amenities
that
are
baked
into
this
cost.
In
particular,
there
there's
the
installation
of
fencing
around
the
around
the
soccer
fields
to
sort
of
contain
soccer
balls
and
children
and
things
of
that
nature.
AF
AF
Gotcha
so
increasing
our
parking
footprint
from
28
to
almost
80
spots,
it's
a
substantial
change
and
so
there's
additional
items
in
this
cost
outside
of
the
immediate
turf
and
lights
that
you've
heard
me
describe
with
that
said,
you've
already
heard
me
talk
about
this
project
funding.
There
have
been
some
challenges
since
our
last
discussion
on
this
I've
since
presented
to
the
tourism
development
authority
to
give
them
an
update
on
this
project,
but
also
the
woodfin
greenway
project.
AF
That's
a
part
of
our
recurring
annual
reporting
with
them.
That
group
heard
the
presentation
had
some
questions
and
recommended
this
for
funding,
not
within
the
normal
cycle,
but
in
in
in
advance
of
the
normal
tpdf
cycle.
But
we
can
talk
about
those
details.
More
so
update
on
project
funding,
general
story,
cost
of
increase
for
a
number
of
reasons.
AF
AF
Additionally,
we've
of
course
seen
challenges
related
to
you,
know,
covid
workforce
and,
in
particular,
niche
construction
fields.
AF
Additionally,
bullet
two
we've
seen
additional
costs
related
to
requirements
for
storm
water,
as
well
as
the
tree
ordinance
and
again,
these
are
not
criticisms.
These
are
just
things
that
we
didn't
conceive
in
the
original
original
costs
that
have
impacted
our
construction
costs.
Today,
insufficient
revenue,
buncombe
county,
has
already
put
430
thousand
dollars
into
this
project
for
a
number
of
items,
most
notably
the
dog
park,
which
is
open.
AF
If
you
haven't
been
it's
at
the
top
right,
as
you
drive
into
bunker
county
sports
park,
dogs
are
utilizing
it
today,
it's
a
pretty
cool
amenity,
it's
our
first
buncombe
county
owned
dog
park,
so
commemorate
that
bullet
two
transportation
grants.
So
one
of
the
questions
I
frequently
get
on
this,
you
know
it's
a
12
million
dollar
project.
You've
got
six
million
dollars,
socked
away
for
a
greenway.
Why
can't
you
spend
that
to
make
up
for
some
of
these
cost
overruns?
AF
AF
It's
insufficient
to
cover
our
cost
overruns,
just
a
practical
matter
with
all
that
said,
you
know
we
we
committed
with
this
tda
grant
to
provide
certain
types
of
amenities
and,
basically,
you
know,
put
in
field
and
lights
that
would
serve
as
a
recreational
amenity,
but
that
could
also
serve
as
an
amenity
to
bring
sports
tourism
to
buncombe
county
we've.
Seen
the
success
of
that
with
the
bob
lewis
park
since
2019.
AF
I
presented
this
budget
overview
before,
but
I'll
walk
through
it
once
again,
just
to
make
sure
that
y'all
are
aware
of
some
of
the
key
cost
drivers.
So
we
have
our
our
main
our
costs
on
the
top
left,
our
revenue
towards
the
bottom
as
we
scroll
over.
We
have
our
original
estimates
from
2018,
so
this
was
a
grant
submission.
AF
AF
You
know
installing
less
lighting
at
the
soccer
fields,
more
lighting
at
the
bot
at
the
ball
baseball
fields.
You
can
see
where
we've
you
know
put
in
three-phase
power
to
support
the
lights
that
wasn't
originally
budgeted.
There's
a
number
of
items
that
we've
had
to
shuffle
when
you
look
at
the
revenue
revenues
remain
pretty
constant.
You
know
tda
grant
6
million,
that's
where
it
remains
today.
AF
Transportation
funding
remains
at
6
million.
You
can't
see
an
uptick
in
our
overall
costs
of
general
fund
dollars
of
about
430
thousand
dollars,
so
we
bring
all
this
together.
You
know
how
to
like
you
match
these
numbers
together.
The
balance
that
we're
short
for
this
turf
and
light
project
is
734
thousand
dollars,
which
is
at
the
bottom
of
the
chart.
AF
So
that's
that's
the
ask
today
before
the
board,
but
I
want
to
just
I
wanted
you
to
see
how
we
got
to
that
number
again.
This
allows
us
to
focus
on
kind
of
the
core
requirements
that
meet
meet
the
requirements
of
the
grant,
but
also
allows
us
to
bring
in
improve
our
buncombe
county
sports
park,
which
addresses
some
other
concerns
that
I
know
you've
heard
from
residents
in
the
community
about
access
to
fields
and
things
of
that
nature.
AF
As
we
continue
on
the
budget
overview
again,
I
started
off
the
presentation
by
showing
you
specific
grant
requirements.
You
know
those
items
that
we're
committed
to
in
a
grant.
Some
of
these
items
are
still
on
the
list
and
haven't
been
touched
yet,
and
so
that's
what
that's
what
this
table
is
about.
You
can
see
a
challenge
course.
Sports
agility
course
yap
course,
natural
surface
trails,
things
of
that
nature.
AF
One
example
of
that
would
be
the
multi-sport
field,
originally
conceived
to
be
on
a
parcel
that
we,
after
further
due
diligence
realize,
is
in
a
floodway,
so
we
can't
do
a
field
there,
but
we
can
do
other
types
of
uses
like
a
trail
head.
Perhaps
some
gravel
parking
something
of
that
nature
on
this
chart.
You'll
also
see
a
couple
items
that
we've
added
to
the
list
that
I
referenced
earlier,
specifically
a
water
line,
additional
restroom
and
parking.
AF
AF
When
you
bring
all
that
together,
the
new
balance
we're
looking
at
is
about
2.5
million
dollars
to
bring
all
these
projects
to
bear
again.
I
think
this
needs
to
be
value
engineered
and
we
need
to
think
about
what
we're
actually
trying
to
pursue.
When
I
say
we,
I
mean
y'all
as
commission,
but
again
the
primary
item
we're
bringing
before
you
today
is
to
move
forward
with
astroturf
and
that's
on
the
prior
slide,
the
734
000,
which
is
at
the
bottom
of
this
slide.
AF
Recommendations
and
next
steps,
the
recommendation
from
staff,
is
to
allocate
the
funding
requested
funding
the
735
000
so
that
we
can
continue
with
this
turf
project.
If
we
do
not
proceed
at
this
point,
clearly
the
project
doesn't
start.
We
run
the
risk
of
additional
cost
escalations
as
we
go
additionally
delays,
you
know
our
ability
to
get
on
the
fields
which
I
think
is
a
goal
for
many
at
this
point
again,
you
know
we
with
the
allocation.
We
would
execute
the
astroturf
contract.
We
would
continue.
Sort
of
our
value.
AF
Engineering
exercise
continue
to
produce,
pursues
rather
additional
funding
with
grant
entities.
So
that
brings
us
to
the
request.
It's
the.
What
was
that?
It's?
What
I
led
with,
which
is
a
board
of
commissioner
approval
for
one,
the
resolution,
which
would
authorize
the
county
manager
to
enter
into
a
contract
with
astroturf,
but
also
the
approval
of
two
budget
amendments
that
would
result
in
allocation
of
that
additional
funding.
AF
My
closing
slide
shows
you
how
the
numbers
tie
again,
those
numbers
at
the
top,
when
you
add
those
together
and
then
subtract
out
the
tda
grant
revenue
it
gives
you
the
balance
at
the
bottom,
which
is
that
734
thousand
dollars
I've
talked
a
lot.
I
apologize
you've
seen
much
of
this
before,
but
are
there
any
questions.
AG
AH
AF
AF
They
and
commissioner
presley
feel
free
to
chime
in,
but
they
recommended
to
send
this
to
the
tpdf
committee
for
consideration.
One
item
that
I
I
would
add
to
this
is
you
know
we
were.
I
was
when
I
presented
stated
that
I
was
recommending
what
I
was
recommending
tonight
so
that
that's
what
they
heard
from
me.
AF
Additionally,
the
the
tda
grant
the
way
it's
structured
tda
can
never
exceed
50
of
total
project
costs,
and
so
we
are
we're
already
at
that
point.
So
any
additional
cost
would
have
to
be
sort
of
a
a
one
for
one
if
anything
in
terms
of
cost
share.
AA
AI
AF
To
your
point,
commissioner,
I
think
kovit
certainly
derailed
this
project
sig
significantly
in
terms
of
the
timing
to
negotiate
it
that
that
was
one
of
the
biggest
factors
in
that.
AF
I
think
we
we've
gone
to
them
and
would
expect
to
talk
to
them
again.
I
my
my
action
was
to
report
out
after
this
meeting
to
to
sort
of
see
where
we
are
again.
You
know
the
based
on
the
tpdf
guidelines.
AF
AH
Yeah
and
tim-
I
guess,
can
go
ahead
and
say
this
was
the
largest
project.
Tda
is
every
single
single
project
they've
ever
done?
Isn't
it.
AF
That's
correct:
it
is
the
largest
project
for
them
for
sure.
Additionally,
on
this
particular
project,
they're
they're
they're,
the
largest
funder
on
this
project.
H
A
AI
A
AJ
Additionally,
the
committee
recommended
demolishing
the
haynes
tower
on
the
anca
campus
staff
anticipates
the
cost
of
this
removal
to
be
three
million
dollars,
accounting
for
some
contingency
at
the
october
15
2019
board
of
commissioners
meeting
the
board
approved
two
projects
at
the
campus
as
part
of
the
fy
2020
joint
capital
recommend
projects.
Seventy
five
thousand
dollars
was
approved
for
anchor
site
programmatic
capital
investments,
and
forty
thousand
dollars
was
approved
for
emergency
relief.
AG
Well,
commissioner,
whitesides
and
I
both
sit
on
this
committee,
and
so
I
can
speak
some
to
it.
The
the
stormwater
definitely
is
a
b
tech
being
a
good
neighbor,
and
I
love
it
dirk
if
you
might
speak
some
too
there's
the
central
asheville
watershed
collaboration
that
you
have
going
on
with
riverlink.
AK
We
realized
that
the
one
of
the
most
pressing
deficiencies
has
been
the
disintegration
of
the
feature
at
hemlock,
and
so
we've
got
that's
a
shovel-ready
project
and
we
are
using
that
to
leverage
other
grant
opportunities
that
riverlink
has
submitted
through
the
north
carolina
land
and
water
conservancy.
I
believe
it's
called
as
well
as
the
city
of
asheville's
rfp
related
to
harpa
funds.
AK
That's
coming
off
of
our
many
lots
throughout
the
campus
and
rolling
into
the
surrounding
communities,
then,
ultimately,
into
the
french
broad
river,
so
that
that
that
is
a
lot
leveraging
leveraging
situation
and
that's
why
we
felt
this
was
an
important
first
step
in
committing
to
correcting
these.
These
problems.
AG
AG
AI
Did
visit
the
haines
tower
and
well
brownie,
you
were
there
too
yeah.
We
were
there
and
I
agree
with
what
we
need
to
do
out
there.
Thank.
AL
AL
AL
AK
It
is,
it
is,
was
outside
of
the
scope
of
the
original
watershed
plan,
but
it's
not
I
mean
in
terms
of
the
the
concept,
it's
not
because
it's
at
the
it's
at
the
headwaters
of
the
haith
branch,
so
because
it
was
on
our
campus.
That
project
didn't
enter
our
campus
and
and
look
at
that
before.
We
were
already
investigating
it
with
a
with
our
design
of
civil
engineers.
AI
A
All
right
is
there
a
motion
regarding
the
proposed
budget
amendments
recommended
by
the
fy
20
recommended
by
the
joint
committee
for
capital
projects
at
a
b
tech
community
college.
A
Further
discussion
all
right:
well,
we
appreciate
you
being
with
us
this
evening
to
make
these
recommendations
appreciate
the
members
of
the
county
commission
and
the
community
who
serve
on
this
joint,
jointly
appointed
capital
planning
committee
from
ab
tech,
community
college
and
the
county.
I
think
it's
been
a
great
process
to
help
think
these
projects
through
together
and
bring
forward
good
recommendations
so
appreciate
everyone's
work
and
due
diligence
around
these
projects,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
post
all
right.
Thank
you.
AJ
So
in
this
particular
amendment,
buncombe
county
received
notice
of
additional
funding
approved
in
the
state
budget
for
this
year
of
628
114
dollars
to
support
communicable
disease
programs
and
to
expand
communicable
disease
surveillance,
detection
control
and
prevention
activities.
This
funding
is
effective
for
this
current
fiscal
year
through
the
next
fiscal
year.
Therefore,
we
would
like
to
put
these
funds
into
the
grants
fund,
which
is
a
multi-year
fund.
AJ
Public
health
directors
are
requesting.
This
funding
be
used
to
start
a
new
mobile
unit
team.
You
may
recall
that
we,
you
authorized
a
purchase
with
this
current
year
budget
of
a
mobile
unit
for
health
and
human
services.
They
expect
that
delivery
of
that
unit
to
take
place
in
june
or
july,
and
they
would
like
to
ramp
up
staffing
that
unit
with
six
grant
funded
positions,
a
public
health
nurse
supervisor,
two
public
health,
nurses,
two
emergency
management,
specialists
and
administrative
support,
associate.
AE
Just
a
quick
clarification
question:
can
you
talk
through
some
of
the
ways
that
this
mobile
unit
will
be
used
both
responsive
to
cover
19,
but
then,
as
we
move.
AM
John
was
ready,
but
I'm
happy
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
how
we're
going
to
use
this
so
you're.
You
are
aware
that
we're
going
to
be
getting
the
mobile
unit
so
initially
this
is
going
to
be
a
continuation
and
extension
of
our
covid
response.
We
have
learned
in
covid
that
mobilization
was
key
key
to
our
testing
key
to
our
vaccine.
AM
Efforts
continues
to
be
key
to
our
vaccine
efforts,
but
up
until
this
point,
it's
been
sort
of
piecemeal,
together
sort
of
taking
teams
and
taking
them
out
versus
having
our
own
type
of
vehicle
or
unit
that
we
can
deploy
with
our
team.
So
initially
you're
going
to
see
it
used
for
covid
testing,
coveted
vaccine
and
then,
as
we
transition
into,
we
can
use
it
for
other
outbreak
situations.
AM
We
can
use
it
at
times
for
other
vaccines,
like
as
we
get
ready
for
flu
season
and
for
equity
outreach
for
our
historically
marginalized
populations,
our
low-income
populations
or
our
rural
communities,
because
we
can
take
our
clinic
now
out
into
the
community
and
so
we're
envisioning.
This
working
with
our
homeless
providers
around
hepatitis,
a
vaccine
and
flu
vaccines
we're
envisioning.
This
that
time,
as
I
said,
into
rural
communities,
just
with
reg,
you
know
just
with
flu
vaccine
and
then
as
we
move
along
adding
other
services
into
it.
AG
AJ
So
right
now
the
funding
is
for
current
fiscal
year
and
the
next
fiscal
year
through
june
2023,
rather
than
ask
for
six
new
positions
in
the
general
fund
unrelated
to
this
year's
budget.
We
have
the
funding
for
this
year
and
next
year,
so
we
are
putting
them
in
the
multi-year
grants
fund
and
and
then
once
this
once
they've
worked
out
the
kinks
and
they
know
exactly
what
they
need.
They'll
make
it.
They
can
make
an
ask
for
planning
in
the
fy
24
budget
to
add
these
positions
to
the
general
fund.
AD
I'll
jump
in
so
time
limited
simply
means
it's
a
grant
funded
and
when
that
grant
ends
we
can
end
the
position.
But
if
it's
successful
we
would
need
to
ask
the
commission
to
fund
it.
So
one
person
is
hired,
they
hear
right
up
front,
it
is
grant
funded
and
the
grant
is
only
for
two
years.
So
this
position
is
guaranteed
for
two
years.
AL
And
I
guess
I'll
just
sorry,
brownie
I'll
ask
commercial
wells
question
just
just
a
different
way.
I
guess
the
intent
when
we
went
forward
with
the
mobile
unit
would
have
been
to
hire
these
same
exact
folks
through
the
general
fund
this
year.
But
it's
just
that
the
state
found
some
extra
money
under.
AD
AI
AL
AD
Just
that
we
have
funding
and
so
yeah
we
wouldn't
tell
the
commissioners,
or
we
wouldn't
tell
the
employees,
that
this
is
a
full-time.
It
is
a
full-time
job
40
hours
a
week,
but
because
we
have
a
funding
source
that
could
end
people
tell
them
it's
two
years
and
then
we'll
have
to
come
to
the
board
and
get
authorization
before
we
can
actually
guarantee
them
that
there's
a
county
possession.
A
Sorry,
excuse
me
all
right:
we've
got
a
couple
of
announcements
on
march
15th
at
3
p.m.
The
commissioners
will
hold
their
briefing
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
on
march
15th
at
5
pm.
The
commissioners
will
hold
a
regular
meeting
at
200
college
street
in
room
326
in
downtown
nashville.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
all
in
favor,
say
aye
all
right,
we're
adjourned.