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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Briefing (August 4, 2020)
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Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' Briefings take place before the Regular Meeting. The goal is to allow Commissioners to learn more about future agenda items along with the public. No officials actions take place.
B
A
Session,
okay,
but
we
will
need
to
have
a
closed
session
to
discuss
that
finalize
that
yes,
sir
okay,
well,
why
don't
we,
let's
get
through
the
agenda
items
here
and
we'll
figure
out
the
right
time
to
do
that
either
before
or
after
or
whatever
makes
sense?
Okay,
very
good!
Well,
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
multimodal
update
and
sidewalk
maintenance
agreement
and
nate
pennington
is
going
to
help
us
out
on
this
issue.
C
C
C
As
you
can
see
from
this
map
here,
our
more
urban
areas
fall
into
the
areas
that
are
just
outside
of
jurisdictions
of
black
mountain
weaverville,
asheville
woodfin,
those
particular
areas.
The
green
areas
are
areas
the
the
where
we're
going
to
give
examples
of
sidewalk
infrastructure
that
already
exists,
and
the
red
one
represents
a
project
on
new
leicester
highway.
We're
going
to
talk
about
in
just
a
second.
C
These
are
three
specific
examples
that
I
put
up
here.
They
should
all
look
fairly
familiar.
You
have
jacob
home.
This
is
this
is
a
project
that
was
built
in
the
former
etj,
where
you
actually
do
have
sidewalk
that's
intact.
We
have
a
school.
That's
in
that
area,
as
well
as
a
number
of
industries.
You
can
see
some
crosswalks
that
have
been
done
in
conjunction
with
the
ncdot,
the
emma
north
louisiana.
C
C
C
C
Well,
it
just
so
happens
that
services
were
expanded
on
new
leicester
highway
with
the
asheville
rides
transit
system.
So
what
that
does?
Is
and
if
you
can
see
the
very
top
here,
it
gets
us
much
closer
to
a
new
stop,
so
we're
slowly
and
incrementally,
building
out
a
system
in
our
more
urbanized
areas,
and
that
and
that's
the
the
that
is
the
what
we're
discussing
today,
if
there's
no
specific
action
you'll
have
to
take
today.
E
C
Okay,
there
is
no
requirement
on
the
county's
part
for
this
particular
project.
There
is
a
maintenance
requirement
through
an
interlocal
agreement.
You
get
about
20
years
on
a
sidewalk,
the
one
on
emma
the
way
we're
doing
it
now
is
we
work
with
general
services
and
they
perform
a
yearly
inspection,
and
if
sometime
down
the
road,
we
need
to
replace
a
segment.
We'll
probably
do
that
in
house
for
that
particular
segment,
but
we
do
need
to
talk
about
what
maintenance
could
look
like
for
the
county,
whether
that
is
work
with
the
city.
E
E
F
E
A
lot,
especially
if
you
I
mean
well
on
my
way
home,
there's
there's
a
lot.
You
know
on
the
way
to
you
know
in
candler,
right
before
you
get
to
the
inca
red
light,
there's
a
lot
of
places
that
have
set
for
10
years
or
more,
since
someone
has
put
those
sidewalks
in
so
have
you
received
any
communication
from
the
city
that
they
have
any
intent
to
connect
those
dots
because
those
are
in
those
are
in
the
city
since
you've
had
conversations
about
lester?
Have
you
heard
any
more
conversation
about.
C
C
All
these
broken
links,
just
as
you've
described
the
city,
has
no
interest
in
maintaining
those
areas
that
are
now
fully
in
the
county
since
the
etjs
were
abolished.
However,
it's
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
have
a
further
conversation
in
terms
of
long-range
planning
on
how
we
want
to
address
those
issues.
C
E
E
You
know
incared
like,
for
example,
I
mean
you
know,
there's
several
gaps
there
that
have
been
there
for
years
and
I
know
how
they
how
they
did
it
in
the
past,
but
there's
not
going
to
be
any
businesses
located
between
those
gaps.
You
know,
and
I
just
like
to
hear
at
some
point
in
time.
You
know
the
city's
intent
to
be
able
to
you
know
what
what
are
they
going
to
do
to
connect
those
dots
later
I.
A
C
E
F
B
E
Mean
some
of
these
are
in
the
etj
and
well
we
ought
to
look
at
it,
but
when
we
have
that
conversation
you
know
and
since
I'm
on
it
I'll
just
use,
you
know
inca
and
sandhill
and
beyond
the
inca
red
light,
where
there's
there
are
some
sidewalks
actually
in
the
county.
We
did
some.
You
know
first
year
as
a
commissioner,
because
there
was
people
really
walking
in
the
road.
Brownie
will
remember,
you
know.
Brownie
was
part
of
it.
E
But
when
you
drive
out
there
and
you
you
know,
you
still
see
the
people
walking,
you
know
what
I'm
saying
is
that
I
understand
the
maintenance
part.
I
understand
we'll
have
to
do
do
that,
but
you
know
I
want
us
to
have
an
ex
a
conversation
where
the
etj
is
and
the
city
meets
there's.
So
many
of
these
places
that
aren't
connected
that
need
to
be
connected
and
whether
it's
the
city
or
the
county,
you
know
we
need
to
have
that
conversation.
I'm
just
trying
to
connect
those
dots
understand
what
brownie
said.
E
You
know
you
can
go.
You
can
see
the
plan,
you
know
and
all
that,
but
you
know
most
people
don't
want
to
go,
see
the
plan.
They
just
want
to
know
how
to
get
from
point
a
to
point
b
without
getting
run
over,
and
so
you
brought
it
up.
So
you
know
I'm
just
putting
it
out
there
that
we
have
that
conversation
and
mostly
it's
going
to
be
near
the
it's
going
to
be
near
the
etj.
C
And
I
think
to
your
point,
what
we
do
when
we
do
enter
the
comprehensive
planning
process.
Is
you
know
we're
going
to
talk
to
our
our
municipalities
and
they're
going
to
be
part
of?
Because
this
is
regional
planning?
It's
not
just
planning
within
our
territory,
but
we
reach
across
and
we
look
for
where
those
gaps
are
and
we
work
together,
because
we
are
essentially
a
regional
network.
E
H
H
If
you
look
at
the
sidewalk,
it's
going
to
come
out
of
east
haven,
but
it's
not
going
to
connect
to
riverwood
and
all
that's
going
to
be
on
the
north
side
of
u.s
70..
So
now,
if
you
look
there
at
the
intersection
of
riverwood
and
u.s
70,
now
we've
got
to
go
across
a
five-lane
highway
to
get
to
ingles
sure
and
we
get
to
the
south
side
of
in
u.s
seminary.
H
F
H
C
So
I
think
you
have
hit
upon
a
perfectly
valid
set
of
concerns,
and
the
concern
here
is
that
we
are
a
county.
Sidewalks
are
new
for
us
and
there
was
no
requirement
for
them
before.
However,
there's
a
bus,
shelter,
that's
been
constructed
now
on
each
side,
how
do
we
get
people
safely
to
those
shelters?
How
do
we
put
in
a
crosswalk
to
get
them
safely
to
the
store,
we're
in
conversations
right
now
with
mho
to
look
for
any
available
grants?
C
A
A
A
The
city
of
asheville
invests
millions
of
dollars
in
sidewalks
every
year.
The
county
traditionally
has
not
invested
in
this
kind
of
infrastructure,
so
I'm
certainly
supportive
of
the
maintenance
agreement
concept
that
you're
talking
about.
If
someone
else
can
fund
the
initial
construction-
and
all
we
have
to
do
is
take
care
of
it
in
the
future.
That's
that's
pretty
close
to
a
no-brainer
to
me,
but
I
do
think
there's
going
to
be
different
places
outside
of
asheville
city
limits
outside
of
black
mountain
town
limits
outside
of
weaverville
town
limits.
A
That
will
need
safe
places
for
people
to
to
walk
and
get
across
the
street,
so
I'm
very
supportive
of
as
part
of
future
planning.
Really
looking
at.
You
know
getting
getting
more
in
that
business,
the
with
the
annexation
laws
changing
at
the
state
level.
The
reality
is
these
town
limits.
Really
aren't
going
to
change
in
the
future,
but
growth
is
going
to
keep
happening
and
so
we're
either
going
to
have
to
accept
that
people
live
in
places.
A
A
So
so
I
guess
the
basic
questions
we
need
to
think
through
are:
are
we
supportive
of
these
goals?
Do
we
want
to
do?
We
want
to
participate
and
I
think
the
two
basic
ways
we
could?
The
easiest
one
is
to
is
to
formally
endorse
the
goals
and
to
request
that
tda
consider
funding.
So
we
put
this
on
our
list
of
projects
we're
asking
tda
to
consider
funding
which
it
sounds
like
they're
very
open
to,
and
then
the
second
way
is
to
make
some
financial
commitment
to
the
project
as
well.
A
A
My
sense
is
that
to
get
to
the
six
million
dollar
goal
or
above
it
realistically,
we
might
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
than
what
we've
had
in
that
capital
plan.
I
don't
think
we
have
to
figure
out
an
exact
number
at
this
meeting,
but
it's
something
that
I
think
we
would
want
to
explore
in
more
detail,
as
we
figure
out
what
the
city
can
do,
what
realistically
the
tda
could
do
so
those
are
those
are
the
questions
I
wanted
to
just
have
some
follow-up
discussion
on.
E
E
E
A
E
G
C
E
E
Brownie
was
part
of
it
and
I
even
remember
having
discussions
about
the
charleston
bridge,
how
that
bridge
looks
and
how
cities
that
you
know
would
have
an
ice
bridge
coming
into
it,
and
I
think
d.o.t
will
fund
a
lot
of
this.
I
I
do
think
that
the
the
totals
that
I'm
looking
at
you
know
that
it.
This
is
an
all-in.
It's
every
bridge.
It
looks
like
that.
They're
really,
just
trying
to
you
know,
get
quite
a
bit
done.
I
think
the
boeing
bridge
once
the
I-26
comes
off
of
it.
E
E
You
know
everybody
needs
to
understand
that
when
the
when,
whenever
that
work
is
finished,
I
may
never
see
it.
You
know,
but
I
might
that
that
that
bridge
is
going
to
be
a
totally
different
bridge.
I
mean
it's
not
going
to
resemble
anything
like
as
far
as
connectivity
and
traffic.
It's
going
to
be
nothing
like
it
is
now.
So
I
think
most
cities
have
a
have
a
nice
gateway,
but
you
know
I'm
not
in
a
position
right
now
to
be
able
to
say
that
you
know
I
would
support.
E
You
know
x
number
dollars,
because
I
don't
know
what
that
is.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that.
I
could
say
that
I
would
support
a
certain
amount
of
money
right
now
at
all.
You
know
towards
it.
It's
actually
a
little
bit
surprised
when
they
came
in.
You
know
that,
because
we,
I
don't
think
we
there's
not
been
a
lot
of
conversation
recently
about.
E
I
hadn't
heard
much
conversation
about
about
the
bridge
and
the
aesthetics
and
some
of
the
things
I
mean
it's
probably
been
over
well
over
a
year
since
I'd
heard
anything,
but
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
if
they
feel
very
positive,
that
the
d.o.t
is
going
to
be
doing
this
or
you
know,
if
there's
some
sense
of
urgency.
You
know
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
I
haven't
heard
that
there
was.
A
So
you
know
this
project
has
been
being
planned
for
for
forever
for
decades.
Right
so,
and
I
think
it
has
gone
on
so
long
and
with
all
the
different
fits
and
starts
and
funding
changes
all
these
different
things
that
some
people
have.
This
perception
that
this
is
never
going
to
happen.
So
the
thing
is,
it's
really
happening
now,
right,
like
the
funding.
Is
there?
The
environmental
impact
statements
are
finished,
are
being
finished
up
this
and
this
is
going
to
be
a
and
for
all
the
the
dot
funding
issues
around
the
state.
A
These
projects
are
funded
and
the
funding
is
committed
and
there's
no
risk
of
it
going
anywhere.
So
you
know
I
agree,
there's
been
a
lot
of
community
discussions
for
years,
but
it
really
is
moving
forward
now
and
it's
a
design
build
process.
So
it's
for
a
project
of
its
size.
It's
actually
going
to
move
quite
quickly,
right
away
is
going
to
start
getting
purchased.
A
You
know
this
is
this
is
happening
now,
so
I
think
we
are
at
a
decision
point
on
it,
and-
and
this
will
be
the
biggest-
this
will
be
the
biggest
infrastructure
project
that
any
of
us
ever
see
in
buncombe
county
in
our
lifetimes,
and
it's
got
a
lot
of
really
negative
effects.
It's
gonna
hit
these
neighborhoods.
It's
going
through
very
hard.
A
You
know
with
this
with
this
project,
so
part
of
the
reason
I
think
this
is
a
very
compelling
project
is
that,
while
it
will
provide
benefits
in
terms
of
traffic,
congestion
and
regional
trade,
local
and
regional,
you
know
travel
through
the
area
we
can
get
other.
This
project,
I
think,
is
about
getting
other
good
things
for
the
neighborhoods
and
the
whole
community,
as
built
into
this.
So
so,
while
there'll
be
some
adverse
impacts,
we'll
also
see
a
lot
of
new.
A
You
know
places
people
can
walk
ride,
a
bike
and
get
across
town
safely,
so
and
add
some
beautiful
and
make
it
make
it
make
it
a
more
beautiful
project.
So
it's
a
it
is
an
investment,
but
I
think
I
think,
as
I
said
at
the
meeting,
you
know,
let's
take
the
long
view
on
this,
and
I
think
these
will
be
investments
that
we
will
appreciate
in
the
future.
So
I'm
supportive
of
a
goal
of
at
least
trying
to
get
to
the
6
million
level.
A
Again,
I
don't
think
we
have
to
decide
how
much
of
that's
coming
from
buncombe
county
right
now,
but
if
we
say
we
support
the
goal
and
we'd
like
to
sit
down
with
tda
in
the
city
and
maybe
others
to
figure
out,
you
know
how
can
we
get
to
that
at
least
to
that
number?
Maybe
maybe
maybe
do
some
of
the
others
as
well.
That's
my
thoughts.
A
I
I'm
supportive
of
many
of
these
steps,
I'm
I'm
not
as
supportive
of
using
general
funds
dollars
for
it
to
me.
This
feels
like
a
project
that
speaks
perfectly
to
some
of
the
tda
funding
in
terms
of
a
large
scale.
Investment
of
tda
funds,
so
that
we
maintain
the
ability
to
be
nimble
and
responsive
to
community
needs
with
general
funds,
especially
as
we
kind
of
continue
to
navigate
the
very
uncertain
waters
of
the
pandemic,
we're
in
the
midst
of
and
it's
economic
repercussions.
I
So
if
an
option
is,
do
you
sign
on
and
endorse
these
as
good
ideas?
Yes,
I
you
know,
I
I
see
the
benefits
of
them,
but
but
it's
harder
for
me
to
get
to
a
place
of
of
feeling
comfortable,
even
with
deferred
payment,
making
that
level
of
financial
commitment.
Based
on
what
I
know
today,
I
think
the
place
I
could
maybe
get
to
and
again
this
will
be
a
dialogue.
I
want
to
hear
what
everyone's
thinking
is
as
brownie
as
you
point
out.
I
You
know
it's
harder
for
me
to
get
there
on
some
of
the
elements
that
are
more
purely
aesthetic,
like
art,
medallions,
on
bridges,
for
instance.
So
I
mean
the
other
thing
I'll
just
put
out
there
since
we're
having
sort
of
a
more
free-ranging
free-ranging
discussion.
Right
now
is
that
I
think
to
me
the
the
big
question
is:
is
how
do
we
help
our
community
members
who
are
impacted
by
the
ways
this
will
negatively
impact
neighborhoods
and
businesses?
I
I
want
to
be
clear
about
that,
but
I'd
actually
be
interested
in
hearing
from
a
community
perspective,
whether
there
are
some
things
around
neighborhood
displacement
or
other
needs
that
might
be
identified
where
the
county
could
come
in.
So
that's
where
I
land
as
of
today
and
we'll
look
forward
to
hearing
from
others
and
ongoing
discussion.
F
A
H
Chairman,
yes,
sir,
if
you
look
at
the
slide
past
the
buckets
it
says,
9.8
million,
but
then
it
says
some
costs
still
to
be
determined.
Now
is
what
are
those
costs?
Is
that
going
to
be
added
to
the
9.8
or
you're
made
to
set
it?
If
there
was
anything
above
9.8
d.o.t
would
probably
pay
for
it,
but
now
that's
saying
some
cost
still
to
determine
I'm
reading
that
that
they're
gonna
those
costs
will
be
added
to
the
9.8,
and
that
is
that
would
do.
We
know
what
those
costs
might
be.
A
I
I
don't
have
any
insights
into
that
other.
You
know
different
from
what
the
committee
shared
at
the
last
meeting.
It's
my
takeaway
was
the
the
funding
around
the
6.2
million.
Improvements
is
pretty,
you
know
pretty
defined
pretty
firm,
but
that
there
is
some
there's
still
some
more
planning
work
being
done
around
the
items
in
the
second
bucket
is
my
sense
so,
but
I
don't
have
any
details
on
that.
E
So
I
I'll
add
one
more
comment.
As
a
as
a
county's
representative
on
the
tda
board,
the
current
current
tpdf
has
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
it.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
while
before
that
fund
grows
to
the
point
where,
where
we're,
unless
they
you're
new,
to
a
finance
option
and
the
new
we're
doing
bigger
projects
again,
I
like
the
idea
of
the
of
the
bowen
bridge.
You
know
you
know
jasmine
mentioned
a
little.
E
You
know,
I'm
not
sure
I
really
like
medallions
or
you
know-
and
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from
on
that.
I
think
that
in
a
time
right
now,
where
we're
not
sure
about
you,
know
funding
and
funding
options,
I
think
it's
you
know
that
they
have
to
have
a
match,
so
the
match
has
to
come
from
general
funding.
Right
chairman
I
mean
we're.
Is
there
other
ways
to
get
the
match?
Am
I
am?
I
not
thinking
right.
A
F
A
I
don't
know
that
we
have
some
other
option
for
ourselves
again.
We
could,
you
know
one
option.
I
think
I
think
my
jasmine,
if
what
I
understood
you
were
saying,
is
basically
let's
endorse
this,
but
let's
ask
the
tda
to
do
a
heavier
lift
on
this.
This
is
all
about
you
know
not
all
about,
but
it's
a
lot
of
it
is
about.
What's
this
bridge,
look
like
it's
the
gateway
into
this
into
asheville
and
while
their
their
funds
are
low.
Now
you
know
when
the
economy
was,
you
know,
pre-coveted,
it's
generating.
A
You
know
six
million
dollars
a
year
so
and
it
compounds
hopefully
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
You
get
something
right
back
to
that
or
close
to
that
then
this
is
this.
Is
you
know
they
could
they
could
fund
this
whole
thing
if
they
wanted
to,
but
but
I
think
the
best
chances
of
it
succeeding
are
where
the
city
and
the
county
are
both
contributing
and
they
do
too
because
then
they
see
that
there's,
you
know,
there's
really
strong
community
buying
for
it,
and
so
I
think
we
should
that's
part
of
the
reason.
E
A
E
Of
leading
to
from
a
tda
and
the
the
amount
of
money,
that's
there,
you
know.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
I'm
that
want
to
have
a
discussion
about
this
and
I'm
being
that,
I'm
being
a
good
representation
for
the
entire
board
on
that
on
the
tda.
And
so
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
have
discussions
regarding
this
and
in
in
commitments
or
you
know,
let
them
know
we're
real
positive
about
it,
that
there
would
be
other.
E
I
mean
we
need
to
know
what
else
is
out
there
that
might
be
competing
for
this
money,
and
I
and
I'm
trying
to
think
of
things
off
the
top.
My
head,
I
can't
I
can't
you
know,
but
whether
it's
recreational
needs,
whether
it's
you
know
so
many
different.
I
mean
there
may
be
some
connectivity
that
associated
with
this,
with
with
asheville
and
even
some
of
the
discussion
we
had
earlier,
that
they
might
be
able
to
fund
in
the
in
the
future,
and
so
we're
gonna.
E
A
J
Commissioners
thing
that
I
would
be
interested
in
is,
I
know
we
need
to
make
a
commitment,
even
though
funding
wouldn't
need
to
be
paid
for
several
years,
but
some
type
of
financial
projections
in
terms
of
what
our
general
fund
is
going
to
look
like
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
I
think
for
me
that
would
give
me
a
peace
of
mind
in
terms
of
how
much
I
would
be
willing
to
support.
J
I
don't
want
to
lose
sight
of
folks
who
are
impacted
by
our
current
situation
and
are
going
to
need
county
programs
and
services
in
the
long
term
to
get
past
where
we
currently
are.
But
at
the
same
time
I
mean
I've
been
here
since
the
mid
90s,
and
I
think
this
project
was
talked
about
at
that
point.
J
So
I
want
to
see
that
to
fruition,
and
I
do
agree
that
if
we
come
together
with
the
tda
in
the
city,
it
does
make
a
more
powerful
ask
that
we're
all
involved,
but
I'm
really
leery
in
terms
of
how
much
to
have
that
conversation
about
committing
until
we
kind
of
have
some
financial
projections.
If
that's
possible.
K
K
L
L
I
think
we're
going
to
see
a
couple
years,
there's
other
stuff
coming
up
tonight
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
funding,
and
I
guess
the
thing
is
is
exactly
what
commissioner
whiteside
said
is
our
tourists
are
the
ones
benefiting
the
most
from
this
right
here
of
beautifying,
the
city?
We
want
it
to
look
good.
We
want
everything.
L
A
L
A
L
And
we're
we're
going
to
be
affecting
a
lot
of
homes
here
now
and
we
know
which
ones
they
are
over
hillcrest.
You
know
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
tonight
also
is
where
we
going
to
put
them
and
can
we
still
afford
it?
It's
like
the
city
is
forcing
people
out.
Instead
of
you,
know
the
state
or
anyone
it's
very
important.
I
agree
it's
important
on
this
26th,
but
right
now
I
just
can't
make
a
commitment
with
knowing
what
funds
we've
got,
and
I
can't
ask
the
taxpayers
to
do
this
right
here.
A
E
E
I
mean
that's
eventually
going
to
have
to
be
done
and
we're
going
to
and
the
d.o.t
is
willing
to
put
some
money
in,
but
I
I
would
want
to
have
this
conversation
along
with
the
other
projects
that
we
would
be
looking
at
too,
and
where
does
this
one
rise?
You
know
is:
is
this
one
the
most
important
one
I
mean
the
others,
may
be
you
know,
half
a
million
dollars
a
piece
or
smaller
or
bigger.
I
don't
know,
but
I'd
like
to
have
the
conversation
they
have
what's
their
deadline.
E
E
A
Yeah,
I
believe
they
said
they
definitely
needed
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
think
they
mentioned
maybe
november
or
somewhere
in
that
timeframe.
So
I
think
over
the
next
couple
of
months,
whatever
buncombe
county
is
going
to
do
or
say
on
this
we've
got
you
know.
So
it's
not
you
know
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
I
think
we've
got
a
couple
of
months
to
make
a
decision
about
what
you
know.
What
role
we're
going
to
play
in
this.
E
E
A
K
A
Don't
we
yeah,
maybe
first
of
september,
why
don't
we
put
this
on
a
the
commission
agenda?
We'll
have
the
list
of
the
other
projects
we're
supporting
at
that?
You
know
at
that
meeting,
so
we
can
look
at
that
because
you're
right,
it's
the
funding,
goes
to
this.
It's
not
going
to
something
else,
and
and
we'll
also
have
a
follow-up
discussion
about
what,
if
any
financial
commitment
we
should
make,
I
personally
believe
we
should
at
least
do
what
we
said
was
in
the
capital
project
plans
in
the
past.
That's
my
view.
A
B
Before
we
move
on,
commissioner,
just
to
clarify,
I
did
hear
commissioner
edwards
asked
for
financial
projections
what
it
would
look
like
for
the
next
couple
of
years,
so
she
could
make
a
decision.
I
wouldn't
have
those
details
in
september
because
we'll
be
just
getting
our
last
sales
stats
for
june,
so
we
can
talk
about
it,
but
I
won't
have
the
financial
projections
to
really
see
the
impact
on
the
finance.
B
That
will
be
closer
to
december
before
we
really
have
that-
and
I
don't
know
how
long
the
time
it
is
for
the
city
to
have
a
commitment
from
us.
I
can
follow
up
and
find
out
what
that
they
just
said.
They
need
a
commitment,
but
they
didn't
give
us
a
timeline
here.
I
can
follow
up
on
that
timeline
and
see
if
we
can
connect
the
two
and
bring
those
data.
A
All
right
all
right,
commissioners,
thank
you
for
your
feedback
on
this
all
right.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
discussion
about
the
proposed
casino
development
by
the
catawba
tribe,
proposed
in
north
carolina
and
so
I'll
just
say
a
few
words
and
we've
got
some
folks
who
are
here
to
to
talk
some
more
about
it,
but
you
know,
I
think,
as
folks
may
be
aware,
a
lot
of
different
counties
and
towns
in
western
north
carolina
have
adopted
resolutions
opposing
the
proposed
casino
development.
N
N
I
would
if
I,
if
I'm,
if
I
may
just
give
a
quick
synopsis
of
how
we
got
to
the
point
that
we're
at
the
getawa
nation
is
a
tribe
that
resides
in
south
carolina.
They
were
once
a
terminated
tribe.
They
were
reinstated
with
federal
recognition
in
1993
through
an
act
of
congress
and
and
a
legal
settlement
between
the
united
states
government
and
the
state
of
south
south
carolina
south
carolina.
Pardon
me
in
that
settlement
agreement,
which
is
available
online.
It's
a
fairly
short
read.
N
I
think
it's
only
about
six
pages
long.
It
is
stated
clearly
and
concisely
that
they
are
not
eligible
to
game
under
igra,
which
is
the
indian
gaming
regulatory
act.
Furthermore,
any
land
taken
into
trust
must
be
negotiated
with
the
state
of
south
carolina.
If
there's
any
gaming
to
occur,
it
will
be
negotiated
with
the
state
of
south
carolina.
N
They
tried
unsuccessfully
and
have
been
unsuccessful
for
the
last
seven
years.
We've
opposed
this
from
from
the
outset.
About
probably
10
months
ago,
bill
was
introduced
in
the
senate
to
the
senate
committee
on
indian
affair,
indian
affairs
by
south
carolina
senator
lindsey.
Graham,
it
was
a
very
stark
and
concise
piece
of
legislation,
one
of
the
shortest
I've
ever
read.
It
was
about
a
page
and
a
half
long.
N
It
simply
said
that
this
particular
parcel
of
land
in
in
north
carolina
would
be
taken
into
trust,
I
believe,
with
16
acres
for
the
sole
purpose
of
establishing
a
casino.
We
oppose
that
that
bill
was
going
nowhere
and
then
literally
out
of
nowhere,
and
if
you
can
imagine
nothing
ever
happens
quickly
with
the
federal
government.
But
somehow
the
department
of
interior
made
the
determination
that
that
land
could
be
taken
into
trust
for
the
purpose
of
a
casino
and
has
since
been
taken
into
trust
for
the
purpose
of
this
casino.
N
Many
of
the
counties
and
towns
in
western
north
carolina
have
already
passed
resolutions
opposing
this.
I've
been
kind
of
like
a
old
school
revival,
preacher
going
to
county
commissioner
meetings
sharing
the
story,
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
background
on
it.
And
what
I'd
like
to
kind
of
highlight
right
now
is
the
the
relationship
that
exists
with
the
eastern
cherokee,
indians
and
buncombe
county
and
the
city
of
asheville,
most
notably
the
long-standing
and
ever-evolving
relationship
that
we
have
with
unca.
N
What
I
would
do
want
to
highlight
is
the
significant
financial
impact
that
our
casino
enterprises
have
had
on
western
north
carolina
as
the
commissioners
are
probably
aware.
Western
north
carolina,
especially
once
you
get
west
of
buncombe
county
and
certainly
west
of
haywood
county,
have
historically
been
some
of
the
poorest
counties
in
the
state
with
some
of
the
highest
unemployment
we
point
to
jackson,
county
swain,
county
and,
most
notably
graham
and
cherokee
counties.
N
Cherokee
county
would
see
in
the
off
season
off
tourist
season,
unemployment
that
would
spike
to
as
high
as
13
and
some
years
as
high
as
15
percent.
Since
the
opening
of
our
enterprise
there,
unemployment
has
stabilized
at
five
percent
year
round.
We
have
an
economic
impact
study
too.
Actually
that
demonstrate
the
ancillary
spend
going
into
the
surrounding
counties
through
contract
work,
vendors
and
then
the
amount
of
payroll
that's
going
into
the
surrounding
counties
exceeds
250
million
dollars
a
year.
N
We
are
inextricably
connected.
The
fact
that
this
this
casino,
if
it
is
allowed
to
proceed
at
minimum,
would
we
would
see
a
probably
about
150
million
a
year
loss
in
revenue
to
the
casino
project.
Now
we
employ
4
200
western
north
carolinians,
at
both
of
our
casinos.
We
only
have
about
400.
So
just
a
little
under
10
of
those
employees
are
our
tribal
citizens.
F
E
K
N
I
A
A
It's
certainly
worth
the
commission
joining
the
other
counties
in
western
oregon
to
support
this.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
if
there's
any
other
information
you
want
to
share
with
us,
please
feel
free
to
do
so.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
steve
metcalf,
who
is
who
is
here
this
evening:
steve
represented
buncombe
county
very
well
for
many
years
as
our
county
manager,
and
also
represented
western
north
carolina
very
well
in
the
state
senate,
says
steve.
G
A
Those
boards
will
make
recommendations
to
the
county
commission
for
future
positions,
but
the
government
boards
and
the
quasi-judicial
boards,
the
commission,
will
have
a
policy
of
determining
which
applicants
we
want
to
interview
and
do
interviews
with
those
members
and
then
make
decisions
based
on
that
is
that
have
I
captured
that
correctly?
Yes,
okay,.
E
E
I'm
concerned
that
you
know
when
we're
put
in
this
position
to
provide
input
from
the
community
to
help
staff
these
boards.
That
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we
still
have
that
input.
I
don't
want
boards
just
appointing
their
own
people
all
the
time,
because
that
could
that
could
be
a
pro
it
could
be.
A
problem
doesn't
mean
we
won't
take
the
recommendations
from
from
the
board
members,
but
I
think
we
have
to.
E
I
think
it's
part
of
our
our
job
description
to
make
sure
these
boys
boards
are
properly
staff's,
not
the
right
word
but
properly
appointed.
So
so
that's
my
ad,
that
is
that
is
my
take
on
it.
So
I
mean
I'm
looking
at
this,
and
you
know
these
all
all
these
in
blue,
which
simply
means
that
we
would
not
that
they
would
just
be
making
recommendations.
We
would
not.
We
would
not
be
making
those
we
would
accept
their
recommendations,
so
it's
basically
just
rubber
stamping
what
they're
saying.
G
It
would
still
be
up
to
the
board.
The
board
still
could
have
final
determination
on
if
they
wanted
to
interview
for
those
positions
or
they
any
questions
that
were
had.
I
think
previously,
we
had
some
discrepancy
in
in
some
past
boards
that
were
recommended,
and
we
kind
of
went
a
different
way,
so
we're
just
trying
to
give
some
guidance,
so
the
clerk's
office,
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
boards,
could
have
some
type
of
guidance.
G
B
Correct
and
that's
as
lamar
said
when
you
look
at
the
chart,
the
advisories
it,
we
broke
it
up
into
three
categories,
because
the
governance
piece
they're,
making
decisions
and
running
on
your
behalf
and
on
the
quasi-judicial.
Those
are
boards
that
are
making
legal
decisions
and
can
be
appealed
on.
So
we
wanted
to
make
a
recommendation
to
you
that
those
are
the
boards
that
you
prioritize
that
you,
because
they're
making
decisions
on
your
path.
You
are
going
to
interview
those,
and
you
know
everyone.
That's
on
that
board
the
advisory
boards
in
nature.
B
They
just
make
recommendations
to
you,
they're,
not
running
an
entity
or
are
they
making
decisions
that
are
binding
on
your
part?
So
that's
the
group
that
could
do
interviews
of
their
groups
and
send
recommendations
to
you
and
we
tend
to
get
more
people
on
those
boards
applications
than
others.
So
if
they
could
narrow
down
and
screen
down
those
numbers
for
you
and
then
you
make
the
final
decision,
but
the
decision
will
always
lie
with
the
commissioners.
B
We
were
just
looking
for
some
guidance
to
lamar's
point
guidance
on
what
can
we
tell
the
boards
because
several
of
them
now
and
I'll
pick
on
the
library
board
or
even
jc
jrack?
They
did
interviews
for
their
group
thinking
that
that
was
the
way
to
go,
because
in
the
past
they
have
been
making
those
decisions.
So
we're
looking
for
some
guidance
tonight
on
how
do
you
want
us
to
tell
everyone
that
you'll
interview
everyone
or
give
them
some
guidelines
that
they
can
follow?.
I
So
as
long
as
we
do
have
the
kind
of
check
and
balance
of
it
coming
before
us
for
a
vote
us
having
the
opportunity
to
engage
and
make
sure
that
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
access
and
transparency
around
boards,
there's
not
any
of
the
any
things
we
might
be
concerned
about.
That
could
potentially
happen.
I
feel
comfortable
with
that
approach
and,
to
me,
this
framework
makes
sense
in
terms
of
the
advisory
versus
gaza,
governance
and
quasi-judicial
boards.
J
I
agree
with
that.
It
also,
then,
does
free
us
up
to
really
focus
on
more
in-depth
interviews
for
those
governance
and
quasi-judicial
boards,
so
we
really
can
spend
more
than
you
know,
10
or
15
minutes
with
each
applicant
really
getting
to
know
them
and
ensuring
that
we're
making
the
right
choices
to
act
on
our
behalf.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
framework
and
I'm
happy
to
support
it.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
your
work
on
this.
A
G
K
E
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
say
this
and
I'll
hush,
you
know
I
look
at
the
advisory
group
boards
and
there's
some
there's
important
boards
there.
I
would
think
if
they
an
individual
serves
on
that
board,
that
they
would,
they
would
probably
say
well,
mr
belcher,
we
think
every
we
think
our
board's
most
important,
I
mean
because
they
are,
they
are
important
boards
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that.
E
And
I'm
hearing,
that
is
that
this
is
accurate,
that
I
don't
mind
if,
if
we
choose
to
interview,
we
choose
the
interview
because
we
got
multiple
people
applying
for
the
same
thing.
That's
the
only
reason
we
end
up.
We
end
up
doing
interviews,
usually
if
there's
one
person
they've
applied
for
it,
and
if
someone
on
the
board
knows
them,
then
that
person
gets
recommended,
probably
95
percent
of
the
time.
I
just
don't
want
a
particular
board
and
then
well.
E
E
G
And
I
agree:
I
think
this
isn't
taking
that
opportunity
for
the
board
to
conduct
interviews
for
these
advisory
boards.
I
think
what
we're
saying
is
we're
laying
some
kind
of
guidance
and
if
you
choose
to
definitely
whether
it's
a
recommendation
or
not
a
recommendation,
you
can
choose
to
still
interview
for
these
boards.
A
A
I
guess
my
vision
was
that
we
would
not
interview
for
those.
We
would
say
we
want
these.
We
want
the
interview
process
to
be
conducted
by
the
advisory
boards.
Come
up
with
a
recommendation.
It
comes
to
us.
We
absolutely
have
the
decision
to
make
it's
our
decision.
We
could
disagree,
we
could
appoint
someone
else
and
maybe
if
there
were
a
situation
where
you
know
there
was
some
disagreement,
maybe
there's
somebody
who
we
know
that's
applied
for
a
board
that
we
just
think
gosh
they're
the
best
person
in
the
whole
county
to
be
on
that
board.
A
We
absolutely
need
them
on
there.
That
might
be
the
situation
where
you
know
we
do
conduct
additional
stuff,
but
that's,
but
that
the
norm
would
be
for
those.
We
ask
the
boards
and
commissions
to
do
it,
and
then
we
do
it
all
for
all
the
governing
boards
and
all
of
the
quasi
judicial
boards,
of
which
there
are
still
you
know
a
a
lot.
So
so
that's
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
that
would
be.
My
hope
is
that
we
would
have
that
kind
of.
A
As
a
general
understanding,
we
could
reserve
the
right
to
do
whatever
we
want,
but
as
a
normal
pattern,
it
would
be
that
they
do
that
process,
because
if
we
started
doing
it
regularly,
I
think
we're
just
you
know
either
either
we
should
do
it
or
they
should
do
it.
If
we're
both
doing
it,
then
I
just
think
it's
you
know
it's
consuming
even
more
time
and
part
of
the
idea
is
to
get.
You
know,
get
a
little
bit
more
efficient
in
our
processes.
A
I
personally
think
we
either
need
to
do
this,
or
we
need
to
create
a
subcommittee
of
the
county
commission
to
work
on
these,
because
I
just
think
it's
it's
just
if
we're
doing
all
of
it
and
we're
really
doing
it
right,
you
know
really
interviewing
all
the
people
and
going
through
that
process.
I
mean,
over
the
last
couple
of
I'd,
say
over
the
last
four
or
five
months
that
we
have
spent
almost
as
much
time
in
boards
and
commissions
interviews
as
we
have
conducting
the
business
of
this
county
in
our
regular
meetings
and.
F
A
Is
very
important,
but
but
so
is
a
lot
of
other
stuff
that
requires
our
attention
and
work
that
I
some
some
days
at
the
end
of
these
meetings.
It
feels
like
you
know,
we've
been
meeting
since
noon
and
we're
all
you
know
fried
from
having
you
know
done
this,
so
I
think
we
either
need
a
subcommittee
of
our
board
to
help
work
on
this,
or
we
need
a
process
like
this
and
I'm
honestly,
a
person
kind
of
lean
towards
a
subcommittee
approach.
A
H
Mr
chairman,
yes,
sir
I'd
like
to
comment,
I
mean
I
really
like
this
because
it
we
reserve
the
right
to
if
we
want
to
interview
someone
on
the
advisory
board,
but
I
think
if
we
could
allow
those
boards
to
do
some
interviews
for
us
and
maybe
narrow
it
down,
I
mean
because
I
mean,
let's
we
give
people
10
minutes
by
the
time.
You
ask
two
questions
it's
over
with
and
then
we
try
to
make
a
decision
based.
H
So
if
you
don't
really
know
them,
it's
ten
minutes
an
opportunity
to
say
we
want
you
to
be
on
a
board.
That's
going
to
push
the
initiatives
of
this
county.
So
I
think
if
we
could
allow,
maybe
as
long
as
we
reserve
the
right
to
interview
whoever
we
want
to
interview
which
we
do
it's
it's
on
here
and
if
the
these
advisory
boards
say
hey,
look:
we've
narrowed
it
down
to
four
we'll
reach
out
to
you
to
interview
those
four
and
give
them
more
than
10
minutes
to.
H
But
I
do
like
the
idea
of
a
subcommittee,
but
that
puts
more
on
a
certain
group
of
commissioners.
It's
gonna
so,
but,
but
I
think,
if
we're
all
gonna,
if
some
of
us
are
gonna,
do
it,
I
would
like
for
all
of
us
to
do
it.
So
if
we're
gonna
put
in
the
time,
let's
because
we
we
are,
we
are
the
county
commissioners
and
we
need
to
these.
Boards
are
important,
and
I
like
this,
I
do
all
right.
L
I
agree,
you
know
we
was
elected
to
do
a
job
and
there
was
no
time
limit
of
how
long
we
was
supposed
to
do
it.
Yes,
we've
left
here
a
lot
of
nights
and
been
very,
very
tired,
but
we
asked
for
it,
so
I
mean
I
think
we
ought
to.
We
ought
to
look
at
them.
We
ought
to
you
know
a
lot
of
this
stuff.
We
might
not
know
a
whole
lot
about
and
a
lot
of
people
in
the
interview
in
10
minutes.
L
K
E
E
G
Yeah-
and
I
especially
say
stacy
really
manages
the
board,
so
it's
re
a
lot
of
a
heavy
lift
for
her.
But
sometimes
what
happens
is
the
boards
themselves
are
not
sure
on
how
they
need
to
proceed
and
one
thing
they
don't
want
to:
do
they
don't
want
to
interview
and
then
they
would
rather
spend
their
time
elsewhere.
G
E
Mean
I
think
for
me
that
what's
what's
happened,
we've
had
let's
say
that
we've
had
I'll
just
pull
one
off
the
top.
My
head,
the
though
jasmine
you
might
be
helping
me
on
this,
the
women's
commission-
and
I
remember
that
we
had
like
26-
that
might
even
be
a
accurate
number
26
that
applied
for
that
we're.
Like
whoa.
We
can't
do
that.
We
can't
interview
26.,
let's
have.
E
Let's
have
the
women's
commission
make
a
recommendation
to
us
of
13
and
we
end
up
picking
six,
whatever
the
number
is
and
to
me,
that's
what
we've
done
in
in
the
past.
If
we
have
a
big
number,
then
we've
we've
asked
for
the
for
that
board
to
do
some
interviews
and
help
us
out
now.
So
the
rest
of
the
board
can
chime
in
on
that
and
tell
me
if,
I'm
you
know
right
or
wrong
or.
G
A
Well,
what's
the
process
for
making
this
decision-
and
we
spend
a
bunch
of
our
time
just
talking
about
the
process
for
making
that
one
decision
and
then
we
do
it
again
at
the
next
meeting,
so
just
kind
of
it'd
be
nice.
If
we
just
had
a
more
consistent
approach
to
this
is
what
we're
gonna
do.
This
is
what
we
want
other
folks
to
do,
and
you
can
deviate
from
it
if
you
need
to,
but
not
having
to
figure
it
out.
Every
time
again,.
E
So
to
commissioner
whiteside's
point,
that's
kind
of
where
I
was
maybe
you
know,
I
wanted
to
avoid
that
too
commissioners,
that
if
there
was
a
group-
and
you
know
it
kind
of
you
know
they-
you
know-
maybe
there
needed
to
be
some
change
on
that
on
that
board
and
it
just
hasn't
been
happening
because
it's
everybody's
connected,
you
know-
and
I
think
there's
going
to
be
some
of
that.
Naturally,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
healthy.
I
guess.
G
C
A
The
one
other
point
I
would
want
to
relay
on
this
is
that
when
I
think
about
all
these
advisory
boards
we
have-
and
we
spend
a
lot
of
time,
doing,
interviews
and-
and
you
know,
but
honestly
I
mean
over
over
the
last
I
mean-
and
we
haven't
had
a
past
history
of
doing
consistent
interviews
in
the
past.
It's
it's.
It
has
been
kind
of
inconsistent.
If
we
really
do
say
no,
that's
we
want
the
county
commission,
that's
our
job.
To
do
that.
You
know
most
of
the
time,
it'll
be
even
more
in
the
future.
A
One
of
the
things
I
think
we
don't
do
enough
is
actually
hearing
from
our
advisory
board.
So
one
of
the
things
like
if
we
could
have
a
more
efficient
process
around
some
of
the
appointments
you
know.
So
we
have
some
of
these
different
groups
here
that
we've
never
heard
from,
or
it's
been
years
since
we've
heard
from,
and
we
can't
hear
it-
we've
got
enough
that
we
can't
hear
from
all
of
them
every
year,
but
I'd
love
for
us
to
kind
of
start.
A
Saying
hey:
let's
you
know,
let's
ask
some
of
our
different
advisory
boards
to
come
in
and
give
give
short
presentations
to
the
whole
commission
about
what
they're
doing
things
like
that
they
work
with
our
staff
all
the
time
and
that's
a
really
important
function,
but
I
feel
like
we're
spending
so
much
time
just
on
the
application
process
that
we
don't
actually
hear
hear
from
them
as
much
as
it
would
be
nice
to
do
so.
So
that's
another
thing:
I'd
like
to
throw
out
there
if.
B
You
recall,
if
you
recall,
when
we
did
our
bylaws
for
boards
just
recently
our
rules
we
added
reporting
into
that
we
just
haven't,
got
because
of
covid.
We
really
haven't
scheduled
that,
but
one
of
the
thoughts
that
we
had
is
the
governance
and
the
quasi
need
to
report
to
you
at
least
at
least
verbally,
but
the
advisory
could
sign
a
written
report
and
every
other
year
they
can
come
because
you
have
over
40
boards
and
commissions
that
you're
dealing
with
yep.
A
Well,
this
has
been
a
good
discussion
and
we're
not
all
in
the
exact
same
place,
but
I
think
it's
good.
I
think
we,
you
know
we
do
need
to
just
kind
of
bring
this
to
a
decision
point.
So
you
know
we
don't.
We
don't
typically
make
our
final
decisions
here.
So
my
suggestion
would
be
that
we
put
this
on
the
the
next
regular
commission
agenda
and
we'll
vote
on
some
of
these
procedures
to
just
you
know,
kind
of
make
a
final
decision
on
it,
one
way
or
the
other.
So.
E
Can
I
have
just
one
other
thing
since
we're
looking
at
making,
maybe
making
some
changes
to
me
if
we've
got
if
we
got
a
reappointment
coming
up,
and
even
that
board
makes
the
recommendation
for
that
reappointment
and
that
person
has
made
all
the
meetings,
but
they
still
got
to
fill
out.
Another
application,
that's
crazy!
E
G
B
B
A
A
F
D
So
I'm
going
to
just
give
a
brief
update
on
the
trends
we're
seeing
at
the
national
state
and
local
level
and
then
turn
it
over
to
fletch
for
some
conversation,
all
right,
so
I'm
starting
with
the
national
picture,
and
so
this
this
data
is
actually
from
last
night.
This
just
is
showing
the
number
of
reported
covet
cases
in
the
united
states
and,
as
you
can
see,
it
looks
like
we
might
be
turning
a
corner
there
as
we
enter
august.
What's
wrong.
D
There
are
states
that
are
definitely
seeing
more
impact
on
a
per
capita
level
and
then
in
north
carolina,
we're
sort
of
in
between
in
between
levels.
And
what
I
would
say
about
north
carolina
is
that
as
of
12
30
today
we're
at
128
161
lab
confirmed
cases
and
just
over
two
thousand
deaths
and
again
in
this,
when
you
look
at
the
sort
of
the
the
general
slope
of
the
of
the
epicurve
here,
the
number
of
cases
reported
well
based
on
specimen
collection
date.
You
can
see
again.
D
D
E
So
and
the
reason
I
ask
that
is,
I
think
it's
important.
You
know
that
for
for
people
to
to
have
that
hopeful
position,
but
still
be
very
safe
when
they're
out
and
still
follow
all
the
guidelines
and
do
that
and
make
sure
that
they're
doing
that.
But
you
know
we've
been
going
through
this
and
you
have.
You
have
been
working
on
this
for
a
while
and
it
can
be,
as
you
know,
very,
very
heavy
discussion.
E
D
Yeah
and
and
and
the
other
you
know
one
of
the
other
data.
This
is
just
one
data
point
right
that
we're
looking
at
the
other
data
points
include
the
percent
of
tests
that
are
positive,
and
so
because
that
tells
you
the
level
of
community
spread
and
so
north
carolina.
When
we
look
at
the
state
as
a
whole,
that
percent
of
test
positive
has
ranged
from
like
seven
to
ten
percent
over
the
last
month
or
so,
and
we're
still
at
nine
percent
so
still
higher
than
we
want
that.
D
And
then
this
is
the
covid
like
illness,
syndromic
surveillance,
sorry,
this
this
is
from
the
state's
dashboard.
It's
not
the
sharpest
image,
but
this
is
telling
you
like
what
percent
of
emergency
department
visits
across
north
carolina
are
for
covid-like,
illness,
and
so
signs
are
symptoms
that
could
indicate
covet-like
illness.
It
doesn't
mean
they
tested
positive,
it's
just.
D
So
this
is,
I
mentioned
to
you
previously
that
this
is
now
available
on
the
state
website.
So
this
is
data
specifically
for
the
mountain
area,
health
care
preparedness
coalition,
which
is
our
western
north
carolina
region.
It
compa
comprises
the
17,
it's
comprised
of
the
17
westernmost
north
carolina
counties,
and
so
this
is
a
screenshot
from
today
showing
the
number
of
patients
currently
hospitalized
in
the
western
north
carolina
region
for
covid
like
illness,
and
you
can
see
how
that
has.
D
You
know
trended
up
over
the
month
of
july,
but
sort
of
you
know
in
these
sort
of
steps,
kind
of
plateau
steps
and
then
the
bottom
line
is
the
number
of
patients
adult
icu
patients
with
kovid
19
diagnosis
in
these
hospitals.
So
again
it's
it's
not
been.
The
dramatic
increase
we've
heard
about
and
seen
in
other
other
states.
It's
been
kind
of
like
a
slow
increase
and.
A
D
This
is
emergency
department
visits,
so
these
people
aren't
necessarily
emitted
okay
right
and
this
is
coveted
like
illness.
This
is
not
lab
confirmed.
This
is
just
people
who
it's,
they
came
in
with
symptoms
that
could
have
been
attributed
to
covin,
and
then
this
is
people
who
deaf
tested
positive
for
covet
and
were
actually
admitted
and
hospitalized
on
the
top.
D
D
The
lighter
blue
is
the
number
that
are
available,
so
you
can
see
capacity
still
very
strong
in
terms
of
ventilators
the
next.
The
middle
is
showing
intensive
care
unit
beds
and
again,
dark
blue
is
in
use,
the
light
blue
is
empty
and
staffed,
and
the
grayish
is
either
beds
that
would
be
unstaffed
or
just
weren't
reported,
and
then
the
bottom
is
just
regular.
Inpatient
hospital
beds.
D
D
D
So
yeah
so
we're
today
at
1726
cases
and
46
deaths
and
the
demographics.
You
know:
nothing's
really
changed
there
in
terms
of
we're
still
seeing
a
majority
of
the
cases
in
that
young,
adult
18
to
49
age
range
and
still
disproportionate
impact
on
our
hispanic
community
and
other
you
know,
populations
of
color.
E
D
D
Get
your
information
yeah
thanks
yeah!
So
again,
this
is,
I
just
pulled
the
the
or
these
are
from
the
state
dashboard,
because
again
it
shows
like
comparison
to
other
counties,
so
the
top
is
the
number
of
cases
per
each
county.
And
so
again,
we've
talked
before
about
how
the
data
on
our
dashboard
and
the
data
on
the
state
dashboard
are
going
to
be
a
little
different.
D
D
You
can
see
the
darker,
the
color,
the
higher
the
percent
positive,
so
yeah
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
where
that
goes
for
this
most
recent
week,
and
so
you
know
when
we're
looking
at
our
trends
again,
that
that
I,
until
it's
proven
to
me,
I'm
gonna
still
gonna,
say
we're
gonna,
keep
it
in
red
in
terms
of
the
number
of
cases
right
and
the
percent
positive.
We
want
that
below
five
right,
we're
stable
at
five,
which
is
good,
but
I
want
to
see
it
come
down.
A
F
A
Like
the
number
of
people
in
the
hospital
is
so
much
higher,
so
it
seems
like
there's
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
kind
of
a
disconnect
between,
like
the
the
percent
positive
seems
to
have
not
grown
that
much.
But
then
the
number
of
cases
and
hospitalizations
is
so
much
higher.
Could
what
are
your
thoughts.
D
Right
well,
some
of
it
is
too
like,
like
how
much
testing
are
you
doing
right?
It's
going
on
the
community
and
we've,
you
know
the
you
know.
Four
over
four
thousand
over
five
thousand
tests
are
being
done,
have
been
being
done,
weekly
in
the
state
in
the
in
the
county.
Over
the
last
several
weeks,
I
think
hospitalization
yeah.
It
was
interesting
because
there
was
a
lot
of
curiosity
about
if
we're
seeing
cases
in
younger
people.
A
D
Yeah
I
mean
it
was:
it
was
bumped
up
big.
Remember
it
bumped
up
to
about
20s.
They
were
hanging
steady,
that's
what
I
mean
it's
kind
of
been
step
wise
right,
so
they
increased
and
maybe
we're
having
like
20s
and
then
it
kind
of
bumped
up
into
the
30s.
And
now
it's
kind
of
you
know,
high
30s
gets
sometimes
to
40..
D
D
So
hospital
capacity,
like
I
said,
is,
is
looking
good
test
completed
again.
There's
lots
of
testing
availability
and
and
lots
of,
like
newer
labs,
are
coming
online
in
our
community,
smaller
labs.
That
providers
have
switched
to
lab
course.
Turnaround.
Time
has
finally
has
improved
we're
hearing
they're
down
to
two
to
three
day
turnaround
time.
So
that's
all
good
news
going
in
the
right
direction
there
and
then
you
know
we
still
have
our
contact
tracers
working
really
hard
to
to
reach
all
those
contacts.
D
A
D
D
So
if
they
came
here,
got
tested
locally
by
a
medical
provider
that
medical
provider
might
reach
out
to
us,
because
they
don't
know
the
county
health
department,
where
they're
from
right,
so
they
might
reach
out
to
us,
and
then
we,
if
it's
another
county
in
the
state,
we'll
we'll
share
that
with
that
county
or
if
it's
another
state,
we
share
it
with
the
state
and
the
state
sends
it
back.
So
it
becomes
to
our
attention
then,
but
there's
no
internal
tracking
system.
For
that.
Necessarily,
if
they
came
here,
went
home
got
tested
at
home.
D
A
D
H
D
D
Yeah
yeah,
so
again,
you
know,
as
I've
mentioned
in
the
in
the
community
updates.
The
big
testing
and
contact
tracing
are
important,
but
when
we're
really
looking
at
this,
this
phase
of
the
of
the
pandemic,
it's
it's
these
preventive
strategies,
that's
where
we're
gonna
really
have
the
impact,
and
so
that's
why
people
keep
hearing
us
talking
about
this
and
that's
why
you're
all
in
your
face
coverings
is.
D
I
D
H
D
D
O
Good
afternoon
good
afternoon,
so
I'm
here
to
talk
about
some
potential
enhanced
mitigation
strategies,
currently
we're
under
executive
order
151
from
governor
cooper,
which
is
set
to
expire
this
friday-
that
if
you
can
recall
that's
an
extension
of
phase
two
targets,
us
back
to
executive
order
141
as
the
current
measures
were
under,
we
don't
have
any
indication
yet
from
the
state
which
direction
we'll
go,
but
we
can
looking
at
the
data
the
same
data
that
the
state's
looking
at.
We
can
imagine
extension
of
that
pause
or
stand
somewhere
in
the
face
too.
O
So
we
want
to
talk
about
some
proposed
mitigation
strategies
stage,
one
while
we're
here
in
phase
phase
two.
But
what
we're
looking
at
as
we
get
reports
and
we
make
observations
and
through
the
ready
team
or
through
phone
calls
to
law
enforcement,
or
you
know
the
county
agencies.
We
get
reports
of
where
we're
seeing
the
most
incidents
of
people
either
not
observing
the
physical
distancing
requirements
or
the
face
covering
requirements.
O
One
of
our
main
problems
now
is
restaurants,
which
are
fundamentally
bars,
but
because
they
can
serve,
they
produce
food
they're
operating
under
restaurant
guidance.
So
we
have
several
places
around
the
county
where
we're
getting
reports
and
we've
observed
that
late
at
night,
they're
not
looks
like
they're
not
complying
with
their
capacity
limitations,
nobody's
wearing
masks.
People
are
packed
in
so
we're
trying
to
focus
down
on
some
trouble
spots.
There.
O
Recently,
the
governor
issued
executive
order
number
153,
which
specified
that
at
11
p.m
in
the
state
serving
served
alcohol
sales
stop
recommendation
would
be
that
we
could
go
earlier
than
11
for
say
nine
o'clock.
The
idea
is,
it
focuses
specifically
on
those
trouble
indus
trouble
stores
which
are
fundamentally
operating
as
bars.
While
bars
are
closed,
that
aren't
restaurants.
O
We
think
it's
reasonably
late
enough
hour
that
people
can
still
you
know,
go
out
to
dinner
and
have
their
drinks,
but
it's
going
to
kind
of
remove
incentive
for
that
kind
of
socializing
that
we're
seeing
people
just
kind
of
loiter
at
these
at
these
sites,
as
if
it
was
a
normal.
It
was
last
summer
be
a
different
issue,
but
this
year
it's
not
acceptable
for
people
to
be
loitering
in
those
close
quarters
for
hours
at
a
time
without
masks
without
social
distancing.
O
Another
problem
area
we've
seen
is
gyms
per
executive
order.
141
gyms
are
ordered
to
be
closed.
However,
we
know
where
several
operating
under
some
guidance
that,
if
their
patrons
have
explicit
directive
from
a
medical
provider
that
they
need
exercise
that
they
could
operate
at
that
gym.
We
know
several
gyms
in
the
area
are
using
that.
O
What
we
want
to
emphasize
with
them
is
that
they
need
to
actually
view
documentation
that
they
have
an
actual
medical
exemption
from
a
health
care
provider,
not
that
it
can't
be
their
personal
trainer
telling
them
they
need
to
work
out
to
lose
weight.
This
does
not
qualify
you
for
this
medical
exemption.
They
go
to
the
gym.
It
needs
to
come
from
a
doctor,
a
primary
physician,
saying
whether
it's
you
know
recovering
from
some
kind
of
surgery
or
some
dire
health
circumstance
that
requires
them
to
exercise.
O
We
also
want
to
enhance
language
on
face,
covering
ordinance
to
make
it
clear
that
in
buncombe
county
wearing
a
face
covering
is
the
rule,
particularly
we
want
to
focus.
There's
been
some
ideas
that
we
should
make
it
very
clear
that
kind
of
downtown
nashville
is
a
mask
face,
covering
area
where,
if
you're
outside
on
the
sidewalk,
you
know
in
storefronts,
you
still
need
to
be
wearing
a
mask.
I
think
there's
some
some
places.
It's
not
very
clear.
Some
places
that
little
bit
of
it's
a
little
ambiguous
and
people
are
taking
advantage
of
that.
O
I
think
we
could
discuss
some
language
that
makes
it
very
clear
that
downtown
nashville,
you
ran
a
face
covering
buncombe
county.
It's
the
rule.
You
can
still
make
an
exception
for
the
governor's
order,
but
the
exceptions
are
not
the
rule.
The
rules,
you
wear
them.
If
you
have
an
exception,
you
don't
wear
a
face
covering.
O
F
O
Would
be
a
possibility?
That
would
be
the
extent
of
the
proposal
saying
using
whether
it's
downtown
business
district
or
you
know
whatever
parameters,
but
just
making
it
very
clear
through
language
through
a
campaign
which
I'll
share
that
are
the
area
we
see.
The
most
non-compliance
with
the
orders
is
downtown
nashville,
particularly
in
the
evening,
but
also
during
the
day.
A
It's
part
of
the
concept
fletcher
just
that.
As
I
understand
this,
the
governor's
order
basically
says
you
need
to
wear
face,
masks
in
situations
where
social
distancing
is
just
basically
not
possible
downtown
asheville.
It's
part
of
the
idea.
It's
just
such
a
busy
area
that
the
reality
is,
it's
not
possible
to
be
socially
distant
if
you're
down
there
during
most
day
times
and
evenings,
there's
just
so
many
people
like.
Realistically,
you
can't
socially
distance
in
that
kind
of
dense
urban,
downtown
environment.
O
Correct
and
if
you
just
you,
observe
for
yourself
like
during
the
afternoon
or
evening
down
there,
you
just
see
gaggles
of
people
like
probably
primarily
tourists,
but
still
just
bunch
of
people
grouped
up
not
observing
the
ordinance
okay,
so
we're
trying
to
focus
on
those
specific
trouble
spots
that
have
been
reported
to
us
or
that
we've
observed
I'd
like
to
real
quickly
share
you.
In
conjunction
with
that
we've
been
working,
stacy
wood.
Who
is
our
information
officer
in
our
eoc
and
her
public
health
communications
team?
I've
done
a
lot
of
really
great
work.
O
M
O
What
I'd
like
to
get
into
next
when
we
come
back
to
this
discussion,
is
potential
triggers
for
when
we
go
to
a
second
stage
of
mitigation
measures.
This
isn't
anything
we're
proposing
yet,
but
just
things
we're
contemplating
looking
down
the
road.
If
the
situation
continues
to
worsen
our
data
trends,
don't
support.
You
know
maintaining
the
course
as
we
are
now.
O
If
we
see
our
test
positivity
rate
come
back
greater
than
the
state
data
trends,
projecting
that
we
reach
50
percent
of
icu
capacity
for
covid,
specific
patients,
admission
having
less
than
a
30-day
supply
on
hand
of
ppe
for
healthcare
workers
and,
first
responders,
an
acceleration
of
our
positive
case
count
or
a
change
in
monitor
trends.
That
was
drastic
enough
to
cause
this
concern,
and
those
monitor
trends
are
those
four
trends.
The
states
watching
we're
also
watching
locally.
O
So
here's
some
potential
mitigation
strategies
down
the
road.
If
we
don't
see
the
changes
we
need,
we
could
go
back
to
restricting
lodgings
on
bookings
for
by
either
geography
or
the
a28
area
code,
as
we've
done
before,
as
we
also
had
before
we
had
limits
on
lodging
capacity
at
50
percent,
we're
discussing
potentially
finding
at
the
individual
level
and
not
just
the
organizations
or
business,
but
in
fines
for
individuals
who
refuse
to
comply
with
face
criminal
mandates.
O
Fine
businesses
that
refuse
to
post
the
required
signage
per
order,
141
that
require
the
post
signage
about
face
coverings
and
other
measures
on
their
storefronts.
I
think
we
have
a
pretty
high
percentage
of
compliance
with
that,
but
there
are
some
who
don't
have
that
posted
and
then,
as
we
also
had,
we
dropped
off
several
months
ago,
but
reinstating
a
requirement
for
a
14-day
quarantine
for
travelers
from
outside
the
state,
and
we
could
specify
that
for
by
specific
other
states
or
regions
or,
however,
we
determine
best
at
the
time
so
clicking
back
here.
O
A
B
A
A
A
That's
that's
encouraging,
but
they've
been
growing
consistently
for
you
know,
six
to
eight
weeks,
so
they're
leveling
off
at
a
very
high
number
and
of
course
the
hospitalization
numbers
and
fatalities
are,
you
know,
have
continued
to
go
up
so
it'd
be
surprising
to
me
if
the
state
did
something
to
open
a
lot
more
commercial
activities
up,
so
assuming
that
the
state
continues
the
policies
they
have
at
this
time
for
an
additional
period
of
time.
Of
course,
we'll
follow
that
in
the
unlikely
event
that
they
did
allow
a
lot
of
additional
commercial
activity.
A
You
know,
I
believe
that
buncombe
county
should
stay
where
we
are
for
now
because
of
the
significant
growth
in
cases
and
hospitalizations
we've
seen
over
the
last
four
to
six
weeks
again,
that
doesn't
seem
like
a
very
likely
scenario,
but
if,
if
it
did
happen,
then
I
would
not
want
us
to
automatically
open
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
other
commercial
activities
that
are.
You
know.
A
E
O
E
So
I
mean
my
position
would
be
unless
the
state
did
something
reckless
that
I
wouldn't
agree
with.
You
know
that
we
should
just
stay
where
at
you
know,
I
the
reason
I
asked
you
about.
Asheville
is,
if
I
go
to
bournemouth
park
or
I
go
to
you
know,
just
a
lot
of
places,
a
lot
of
different
places.
I
mean
I'm
seeing
people
wearing
these
now
when
you're
out
on
the
sidewalk.
What
I've
seen
is.
E
Some
people
will
have
them
on
the
entire
time,
but
some
people,
you
know,
will
carry
them
and
then,
if
they
get,
if
they
see
their
family
getting
close
to
someone,
then
I've
seen
them.
You
know
pull
the
mask
up
or
put
a
mask
on
or
whatever
or
if
they're
outside
they're
getting
ready
to
go
in
the
store.
They'll
put
the
mask
on
you
know,
so
I
mean
I'm
seeing
you
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
good
habits
out
where
I'm
out,
where
I'm
at
and
I'm
not
downtown
as
much.
E
E
Don't
know
until
he
says
so,
I'm
just
saying
with
it.
I
think
brownie
said
the
same
thing
that
you
know
we're
I'm
okay,
where
we're
at
right
now,
and
I
don't
see
us,
you
know
doing
something
different.
You
know
friday
or
in
front
of
you
know
what
what
he
says
if,
if
he,
if
he,
if
the
governor
or
the
state,
does
something
reckless,
we
can
always
push
a
button
and
have
a
meeting
if
we
have
to.
But
I
I
don't,
I
don't
think
we
move
from
where
we're
at
right
now.
A
This
is
one
clarification,
though,
so
the
one
recommendation
that
the
staff
are
asking
us
to
consider
for
now
is
the
restaurants
that
serve
alcohol
and
requesting
that
they
not
serve
alcohol
after
nine
o'clock
in
the
evening,
whereas
the
state
says
11..
So
that
is
a
request
that
that's
something
that
we
could
go
ahead
and
put
in
place
at
this
time.
I
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
would
support
the
implementation
of
that
mitigation
strategy
as
well
as
the
other
sort
of
action
steps
you
outlined
sure.
So
I
would
I
would
support
the
moving
the
time
up
to
9
pm
and
then
the
communication
work
with
gyms
and
members
of
the
public
and
businesses
and
and,
like
others,
would
like
to
see
what
happens
on
friday
and
and
make
an
informed
assessment.
I
really
appreciate
the
kind
of
forecasting
you
all
are
doing
around
the
triggers
that
we
want
to
be
attentive
to
as
we
look
ahead.
J
D
E
So
I
think
you
know
fletch
either
one
I
mean
what
what
I've
heard
you
know.
I
don't
know.
If
anecdotally
is
the
right
word
or
not,
but
what
I
have
heard
out
in
the
in
the
public
is
that
you
know
there's
been
situation
or
it
may
be
where
people
have
been
outside
and
they've
been
gathering
and
they've
been
distant
and
then
maybe
rain
and
had
to
go
inside
and
then
you
know,
there's
been
you
know
possibly
contact
there.
E
I
think
so
general
advice
you
know
for
for
people
to
you
know
to
have
your
gatherings
outside
you
know.
To
I
mean
you
know,
keep
it
within
your
immediate
family.
You
know
as
best
you
can
and
continue
that
kind
of
guidance.
That
kind
of
precaution,
and
to
be
I
mean,
don't
be
you
know
if,
if
it
rains
instead
of
everybody
running
inside
everybody
needs
to,
you
know,
go
to
the
house
and
leave
the
presents.
You
know
there,
you
know
for
the
birthday
parties
things
like.
I
just
use
that
good
common
sense,
but
I'm
I'm
not.
O
That's
a
very
good
point-
and
I
just
remind
everyone
currently,
you
know
outdoors
are
mass
gathering
guidance.
Our
limit
is
25
indoors.
It's
10.
I
do
want
to
as
we
get
you
know,
end
of
summer
into
fall
and
weather
is
less
amenable
to
being
outside.
You
know,
there's
a
concern,
as
you
know,
people
who
would
you
be
able
to
have
these
events,
whether
it's
a
outdoor
yoga
class
or
outdoor
family
gathering
will
start
moving
indoors.
We
see
more
rain
with
hurricane
season
as
we
see
colder
weather,
so
there's
a
concern,
but
just
remind
everyone.
E
That
family
reunion
did
not
happen
this
year
and
people
are
making
difficult
decisions
and
I
think
a
few
of
them
gathered,
but
they
gathered,
but
instead
of
100
people
coming
together.
It
was
about
eight,
you
know,
and
so
I
think
people
are
making
those
safe
decisions,
but
we
need
to.
We
need
to
make
sure
they
understand
that.
J
O
Is
there
we
know
some
staff
at
some
of
these
restaurants
have
tested
positive
okay,
but
I
I
would
say
we
don't.
We
don't
have
hard
data
on
this
time
recommendation,
but
we
do
we've
seen
reporting
one
that
rings.
The
bell
for
me
is
the
bbc
reported
a
couple
weeks
ago
that
I
think
the
headline
was
it's
crystal
clear
when
alcohol
is
involved,
social
distancing
doesn't
happen.
H
O
And
we
had
some
discussion
about
that
and
I
think
nine
o'clock
is
a
reasonable
time.
With
the
majority
of
dinner
hours,
you
can
still
have
social
drinks.
We
talk
about
these
small
sacrifices,
maybe
you're
not
having
that
second
glass
of
wine,
because
it
meets
the
time
limit
or
maybe
you're
just
planning
ahead
and
to
be
clear.
This
doesn't
restrict
sales
from
like
a
grocery
store.
This
is
just
point
of
service
where
you
receive
an
open
beverage
like
at
a
restaurant,
or
you
know
a
brewery
things
like
that.
A
D
A
A
Probably
it
stays
pretty
similar
to
what
we're
seeing
now,
but
we
don't.
We
won't
know
it
till.
We
know
it,
but
our
anticipation
is
that
if
the
state
continues,
the
current
policy
framework,
of
course,
we'll
basically
continue
that
as
well
with
the
one
policy
difference
being
we're
going
to
have
an
earlier
time
to
stop
selling
alcohol
in
restaurants
compared
to
the
state
policy.
A
Restaurants
can
still
stay
open
if
you
are
getting
a
late
dinner
things
like
that,
that's
fine,
but
basically
we
just
don't
want
the
restaurants
turning
into
bars
later
in
the
evening,
and
since
we
do
have
you
know,
we
do
have
a
lot
of
tourists
here,
we're
not
like
every
other
town
in
the
state.
There
are
a
lot
more
people
who
are
coming
here
to
go
out
and
get
some
of
the
delicious
beverages
that
are
manufactured
in
our
county.
So
we
do.
A
I
think
there
is
good
reason
why
this
could
be
a
you
know,
a
more
significant
concern
here
than
in
your
typical
town
around
the
state.
I
know
the
college
towns
are
also,
I
think,
that's
kind
of
where
the
idea
first
came
from
right.
There's
a
lot
of
concern
that
the
college
towns
would
you
see
a
lot
of
problems
in
there
too?
So
so
that's
that's
the
expectation,
so
any
other
any
other
questions
before.
We
adjourn,
of
course,
we're
a
little
bit
after
five
o'clock
already
all
right.