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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (Oct. 30, 2018)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' from Oct. 30, 2018. To view the meeting agenda, or future meeting agendas, please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
Before
we
begin
our
meeting
this
evening,
let's
hold
a
moment
of
silence
to
acknowledge
the
lives
that
have
been
lost
from
this
act
of
violence,
hatred
and
discrimination
to
offer
silent
prayer
for
the
families,
impacted
the
community
of
Pittsburgh
Pennsylvania
and
people
of
Jewish
tradition
and
faith
within
our
community
in
Asheville,
in
Buncombe,
County
and
across
our
country.
Please
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence.
A
All
right
before
we
begin
our
meeting
I'd
like
to
announce
that
there
is
parking
validation
for
folks
who
are
attending
our
accounting
commission
meeting.
If
you
parked
in
one
of
the
County
parking
decks,
you
can
get
parking
validation
from
the
sheriff's
officers
who
are
with
us.
So
please
talk
to
them
on
your
way
out.
A
Let
me
read
a
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board:
in
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
county
commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
A
Member?
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
today,
seeing
that
there
are
none
all
board
members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
any
matters
voted
on
by
the
board.
At
this
meeting,
all
right
we
come
to
the
consent
agenda.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
and
to
follow
the
remainder
of
the
agenda
as
published
all
in
favor?
Please
say:
aye
any
post,
great
okay.
A
B
B
And
so
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
folk
here
we
have
some
of
the
kids
here
and
so
just
really
really
wanted
to
be
able
to
say.
Thank
you.
You
know,
because
of
you
all.
We
were
able
to
send.
We
started
out
with
with
a
hundred
and
one
kids
and
the
and
the
thought
was
that
we
wanted
to
be
impactful.
We
wanted
to
be
able
to
to
to
affect
kids
and
we
reached
out
in
hand
and
had
a
great
I'm,
a
great
amount
of
support.
B
We
ended
up
sending
we
ended
up
sending
a
total
of
a
total
of
89,
kids
and
and
nine
youth
workers
ended
up
going
to
kids
across
America
and,
and
it
was
a
phenomenal,
it
was
a
phenomenal
time
it
was
in.
It
was
right
outside
of
Branson
Missouri,
where
they
were,
they
were
engaged
kids
had
a
phenomenal
time
and
when
they
came
back,
we
decided
that
we
were
going
to
continue
with
those
kids
and
just
just
almost
two
weeks
ago.
B
We
did
our
impact
retreat
where
we
had
another
89
kids
are
some
of
the
same
kids
for
a
total
of
four
total,
where
we've
impacted
124,
individual
kids
from
our
communities.
People
ask
me
all
the
time.
Where
are
you
finding
the
kids
because
we're
getting
so
many
calls
and
we're
engaging
with
the
schools?
We
started
out
partnering
with
in
the
Housing
Authority
partnering,
with
with
help
made,
we
got
kids
from
Buncombe,
County
Schools
and
Asheville
City
Schools
from
the
homeless
liaisons.
B
We
got
involved
with
with
some
you
Forgan
ization.
My
sister
taught
me
that
my
daddy
taught
me
that
YTL
and
just
really
just
went
after
these
kids
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
let
them
know
that
there's
a
community
that
actually
cares
and
we
believe
in
them-
and
it
has
been
phenomenal,
it
is
it
is.
It
has
been
one
of
the
one
of
the
greatest
things
I've
ever
have
ever
been
involved
in,
and
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
properly
said
thank
you
and
to
be
able
to
come
and
to
to.
B
Let
you
all
know
the
impact
that
you're
having
and
and
and
allowing
us
and
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
more
of
us
that
that
are
moving
forward
with
this.
We
have
more
events
planned
where
every
Monday,
every
Monday,
where
there's
a
group
of
us
that
are
that
are
moving
from
school
to
school,
that
were
greeting
kids
when
they're
coming
in
with
shaking
hands.
We're
we're
doing
this
and
we're
going
all
all
over
the
county.
B
C
To
say
the
thanks
should
really
go
to
all
of
you,
because
you
know
we
sit
here,
but
what
you've
done
with
this
innovative
program
is
planted
a
seed
of
hope
where
sometimes
there
aren't
any
so
I
humbly
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
doing
it
and.
B
B
B
Mean
we
are
doing
something
weekly
constantly
I
mean
there's,
there's
groups
of
us
that
are
going
to
elementary
schools
and
have
them
having
lunch
with
kids,
where
I
mean
we're
doing
something,
we're
making
sure
that
that
that
these
kids
know
that
they
matter
and
and
that
they're
important
and
they're
valuable,
and
the
biggest
thing
that
we
can
give
is
our
presence
and
that's
what
we're
doing
so
again.
Thank
you
all
so.
I.
D
D
E
B
Again,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
you
know.
100
percent
of
all
the
funds
that
have
been
raised
from
from
from
from
the
county
and
from
other
sources
have
gone
directly
towards
the
kids
everybody's
volunteer
hanging
out
and
we're
using
all
of
those
resources
to
be
impactful
and
again,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
and
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
A
Okay,
next
up,
we
have
a
presentation
on
the
children
and
Friends
enrichment
center,
and
this
is
an
informational
presentation.
Linda
Hobson.
The
board
chair
is
going
to
share
some
information
with
us.
We
do
not
anticipate
taking
a
vote
at
the
meeting
this
evening,
but
we're
going
to
get
some
additional
information,
and
so
thank
you
for
being
with
us.
Thank
you.
G
F
F
F
It
has
flooded
four
or
five
times
this
past
year
and
the
sewerage
system
went
out.
This
is
a
great
hardship
for
our
families
and
financially
and
emotionally,
it's
not
good
for
them,
and
it's
not
good
for
their
employers.
We
face
other,
always
the
possibility
of
mold
contamination.
We
very
much
are
aware
of
the
shortage
of
a
good
quality
child
care
in
Buncombe
County,
and
we
want
to
be
a
part
of
that.
We
do
not
want
to
close.
For
that
reason.
F
F
We
do
have
land
for
this
modular
building
to
go
on
through
a
partnership
with
the
town
of
Black
Mountain,
a
long
term
lease,
so
we
have
land
now
we
have
to
have,
and
currently
we
have
raised
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
and
we're
still
working
on
that.
We
plan
to
take
it
sa
B
loan
for
120
months,
three
thousand
two
hundred
and
thirty-seven
dollars
a
month
that
is
doable.
Our
current
rent
is
almost
five
thousand
dollars
a
month.
F
F
H
Thank
you
guys
for
allowing
us
to
come
and
speak
on
behalf
of
children.
Friends
as
I'm,
not
I,
know
that
I
I
don't
need
to
tell
you
guys
what
kind
of
problems
that
you
have
for
early
childhood
education
and
folks
to
take
and
families
who
need
access
to
good
care,
good
quality,
education,
good
quality,
child
care,
and
these
guys
do
it
and
I'm
and
I'm
proud
to
come
here
and
speak
on
their
behalf,
because
I
know
what
they
do
and
I
know
that
how
they.
H
There
are
a
lot
of
these
folks,
where
the
same
folks
were
involved
in
town
square,
who
took
a
little
bit
of
money
from
the
county
and
turned
it
into
a
lot
ten
times
the
what
the
county
got
us
started
off
with.
We,
we
have
a
backlog.
Now
that
are
they
do
and
that
backlog
is
only
going
to
get
worse
once
bottom
gets
gets
started
and
you
guys
have
been
supportive
of
that.
The
need
is
tremendous
and
we
appreciate
y'all
considering
and
your
willingness
to
possibly
help
us.
Thank
you
guys.
All
right,
Thank
You,
mayor.
C
Have
a
couple
of
questions:
how
long
is
your
waiting
list
now
long.
F
F
F
F
C
F
C
H
Yes,
ma'am
is
false.
That
is
correct.
The
county
gave
us
a
small
portion
to
get
started
with.
We
turned
that
into
fifty
thousand
dollars.
We
turned
that
into
ten
times
that,
from
outside
resources,
people
who
donate
donating
their
time
their
efforts,
their
materials.
We
got
parking
lots
done
for
free.
We
got
rockwork
framing
of
roofing
plumbing
wiring
heating
air.
It
was
just
so
much
of
the
development
of
that
that
square
was
done
and
it
didn't.
H
It
didn't
cost
anything
above
what
the
county
gave
us
on
the
fifty
thousand,
when
we've
got
over
five
hundred
over
a
half
a
million
dollars
involved
in
that
project
and
what
Joel
gave
was
the
seed
money
to
get
started
and
we
took
it
and
went
from
there,
and
this
is
going
to
be
another
example
of
that.
That's
why
I'm
here?
That's
why
I'm
advocating
that's
why
the
whole
town
board
is
in
support
of
this
is
because
we
know
we
can
partner
with
these
guys
to
do
what's
right
and
good
for
our
kids.
I
Merit
I
could
not
believe
it
when
I
went
out
there,
I
thought
we'd
see
a
little
bathroom
and
you
know
some
gravel
in
a
parking
lot,
but
then
I
hear
we
got
you
got
Splash
Mountain
you've
got
it
all.
You
got
a
clock.
You
got
just
all
kinds
of
things
for
what
you've
done
in
the
people
of
the
community.
K
I
Mean
I
think
they
will
help
this
group
get
to
where
they're
going
and
I
understand.
I've
understand
a
little
bit
about
these
modular
deals.
They're
set
up
for
the
kids
to
start
with,
and
it
would
be
a
great
benefit
but
$50,000.
You
know
and
that's
this
and
it's
a
pretty
well
that
and
we
haven't
given
other
money
to
the
swimming
pool.
Yet
because
it's
not
done
so,
you
know
I,
can't
see
where
we
can
hurt
in
this
particular
deal,
because
it's
a
one-time
deal
you're
asking
for
yes,
and
so
thank.
I
D
D
In
a
very
tangible
way,
what
your
requests
are
and
what
your
needs
are
and
what
the
results
have
been
in
the
past,
and
we
know
you
can
take
this
money
and
and
multiply
it
and
so
I'm
not
sure
when-
and
you
know
the
timing
of
all
this,
but
and
where
we
end
up
on
the
on
the
amount
but
I'm
I'm.
Very,
very
supportive
of
this
I
will
ask
a
question.
The
amount
is
I
think
you
said
two
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
two.
D
F
D
F
F
D
I
C
H
F
A
You
know
thank
you
for
being
with
us
and
thank
you
mayor
for
being
with
us
as
well.
It's
a
very
you
know
it's
a
very
compelling
project
in
a
lot
of
ways.
You
know
it's
got.
You
know
I
just
asking
for
funds
from
us.
You
got
private
donors,
you've
got
another
municipality
contributing
property,
so
it's
got
a
lot
of
the
things
that
and
obviously
a
great
a
great
track
record.
A
The
you
know
it
so
I
think
part
of
the
part
of
thing
I've
wrestled
with
is
just
what
is
the
right
process
to
consider
requests
like
this?
You
know
it's
compelling
as
it
is
there
are.
You
know
this
is
a
hard
business
to
be
in
as
you
as
you
know,
and
if
there
there
are
many
great
organizations
in
this
community
that
struggle.
You
know
to
keep
the
doors
open
that
financially,
you
know
our
kind
of
living.
A
You
know
living
on
the
edge,
and
you
know
we're
going
to
have
a
a
broader
discussion
this
evening
about
you
know:
what
can
the
county
do
to
help?
You
know,
support
this
sector
and
really
address
the
needs
on
a
bigger
scale
and
in
a
really
methodical,
comprehensive
way.
So
so
part
of
me
wants
to
say:
let's
just
do
this
right
now.
A
You
know,
but
part
of
me
also
says:
what's
what's
the
right
process
to
consider
these
kind
of
requests,
because
you're
here
with
us
tonight-
and
we
appreciate
it-
and
we
understand,
there's
some
time
sensitivity
around
the
consideration.
So
not
everything
fits
neatly
into
our
usual
budget
cycles,
but
on
the
other
hand,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
other
great
organizations
too.
That
are
probably
if
we
took
the
time
to
hear,
what's
going
on
with
their
organizations
would
have
similar
stories
to
tell
of
facility
needs.
A
That
are,
you
know,
really
challenging
or
other
financial
reasons
that
they
may
be
really
on
the
edge
of
whether
they
can
keep
operating
or
not,
and
we
want
to
I
think
we
just
wanna
be
thoughtful
about
how
we
consider
our
investments
in
this
really
important
segment.
So
that's
that's
the
that's
the
reason
you
know
my
suggestion
is.
We
want
to
hear
this
and
make
a
decision
about
how
we
handle
these
kind
of
requests,
especially
when
they
kind
of
come
in
outside
of
our
our
typical
cycles,
which
is
where
I
think
we
want
to
normally
invest.
A
Most
of
the
funds
would
be
through
a
process
where
we
can
hear
all
the
requests
that
come
in
for
early
childhood.
Education
kind
of
you
know
make
sure
we're
investing
them
in
the
most
effective
way
for
taxpayers.
We
want
to
mostly
do
it
that
way,
but
sometimes
things
are
going
to
come
up
from
time
to
time
that
we
have
to
do
outside
of
those
cycles,
and
we
just
need
to
make
sure
we
give
a
thoughtful
approach
to
making
those
decisions.
C
Hear
what
you're
saying
and
I
appreciate
that?
But
to
me
this
is
a
crisis
and
maybe
because
I
Drive
by
it
every
day,
maybe
I,
know
the
need
in
Black,
Mountain,
just
wanna
know:
Valley
I
think
it.
You
know,
I,
hear
everything,
you're
saying
about
process
and
a
long-range
plan
and
we
need.
If
we
have
a
lot,
we
had
a
long-range
plan.
We
wouldn't
need
to
keep
putting
band-aids
on
things.
But
for
now
to
me
this
is
a
crisis
and
the
sooner
we
can
make
a
decision
they
can
move
along.
I
Yes,
commissioner,
I've
watched
on
them
do
what
they've
done
in
Black
Mountain,
that's
district,
that's
Ellen!
In
my
district,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
things.
We
actually
put
money
in
a
swimming
pool,
three
hundred
thousand,
which
we
haven't
had
to
give
to
it,
because
if
it's
not
done,
but
once
it
is
the
money
set
aside,
you
know
we're
looking
at,
like
you
said
another
deal
tonight,
that's
a
ton
of
money,
but
they're
talking
about
a
hundred
and
seventy
kids
they're
talking
about
similar
dealt.
I
You
know
the
modular
that
they
can
take
care
of
different
things
and
they
need
to
get
to
work.
We
don't
need
to
wait
two
weeks
or
even
four
weeks.
I
want
to
make
a
motion
to
give
these
people
the
money
tonight,
because
I
trust
them,
because
Black
Mountain
has
been
a
very
trustworthy
area
for
us
and
they
may
not
have
to
have
all
of
it.
They
might
can
do
more
for
less,
but
they
have
the
people
that
want
to
do
it.
I
I
L
C
D
Yeah
just
got
a
couple
more
things
say:
I'm
glad
that
my
colleagues
have
decided
to
do
this.
This
way
and
again,
we
know
the
track
record
of
the
group
as
well
as
Black
Mountain,
and
this
is
you
know,
we
established
the
priorities
of
the
Commission
and
one
of
the
priorities
was
early
childhood
education,
pre-k,
and
so
that
message
went
out
there
and
and
y'all
heard
that,
so
it's
not
just
an
accident
that
you've
you've
come
to
speak
with
the
Commission.
D
You
know
the
where
the
Commission
stands
on
this
already
and
so,
but
I
think
it's
the
track
record
of
the
fundraising
and
the
hard
work
of
the
people
of
Black,
Mountain
and
Swannanoa
that
that
gets
you
this.
You
know
first
and
second,
we'll
see
how
everything
ends,
but
but
I
intend
to
intend
to
support
I'm,
also
going
to
throw
in
there
for
discussion.
You
know
that
you
know
that
we
funded
as
as
quick
as
possible,
but
we
funded
also
as
practically
as
possible
for
you
guys.
A
A
I
think
if
this
proposal
were
standing
next
to
others,
it
would
compete
great
and
I'm
confident
we
would
support
it
and
for
that
reason,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
vote
for
it
now,
but
I
just
think
we
have
to
think
about
the
process
so
that
everyone
have,
you
know,
has
a
fair
chance
to
make
their
case
for
how
to
invest
finite
resources
in
this
important
need
in
the
community,
which,
hopefully
we're
going
to
make
a
decision
later
this
evening
to
a
significantly
increased
segment.
Thank
you
again,
any
other
any
other
comments.
M
What
I
would
like
to
add
to
it
I
agree
brownie
on
the
process.
We
do
need
to
establish
that
going
forward,
but
we're
the
point
in
Buncombe,
County
and
I
hear
this.
I've
heard
this
for
two
years
now
almost
that
I've
been
on
the
Commission.
We
have
look
folks,
we're
past
being
we
have
a
terrible
situation
in
Buncombe
County
when
it
comes
to
child
care.
M
You
know,
people
tell
me
they
when
they
find
out
that
they're
pregnant
a
family
they
get
on
the
list,
one
of
the
lists
or
every
list
in
the
county
and
they're
not
guaranteed,
then
that
they
can
get
child
care.
So
I
will
vote
for
this
and
I
agree.
We
need
a
process,
but
we
also
need
to
take
some
action
now
to
help
alleviate.
M
You
know
to
eliminate
the
problems
and
we
have
and
I'm
all
for
it,
even
though
it's
not
in
my
district,
it's
in
Buncombe
County
and
it's
a
hundred
and
seventy
kids,
which
is
a
hundred
more
than
you're
taking
care
of
now,
and
we
need
that
and
look
this
means
to
a
lot
of
families
if
they
can
continue.
The
I
know
before
I
retired
from
the
bank.
We
were
losing
good
employees
because
of
child
care
and
if
they
had
two
small
kids
so
we're
the
poor
now
I
think
it's
just
common
sense.
O
Simon
briefly,
to
say
something
similar
that
I'll
also
vote
for
this,
but
with
exactly
the
same
framework
of
feeling
like
it's
critical,
that
we
put
processes
in
place
that
are
clear
and
transparent,
and
so
community
partners
know
exactly
what
to
expect
from
the
county
in
terms
of
commitments
and
how
that
process
will
work.
The
reality
we
face
right
now
is
that
there
is
a
day
in
and
day
out,
crisis
and
and
well
in
an
academic
context.
P
I'm,
just
gonna
come
in
I'm
gonna,
totally
support
it,
because
it's
a
crisis
I
think
the
process.
Is
there
the
track
records
there
and
I
agree
with
browny
I
agree
with
Jaz.
My
group
thought
so
later:
I'm
not
I
want
to
make
sure
we
go
through
a
process.
Also,
so
I
will
strongly
support
it.
Okay,
all.
A
L
N
M
C
N
We
were
getting
ready
to
research
that
further,
because
we
thought
we
were
going
to
vote
on
the
20th,
but
I
guess
my
question
to
y'all
is:
if
that
ends
up
in
order
to
be
statutorily,
correct,
that
we
had
to
actually
give
the
money
to
the
town
which
would
then
give
it
to
you.
Y'all
have
any
problem
with
that
and
mr.
mayor,
do
you
have
any
problem
with
that?
Okay,
all
right!
We
would
only
do
that
if
we
had
to
to
meet
statutory
requirement,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
everything
right
like
is
that?
N
J
N
A
E
That
means
that
a
large
portion
of
the
families
of
those
children
make
our
city
run
and
also
it
is
an
it
is
an
essential
part
of
the
economy
of
a
town
like
Black
Mountain
in
Swannanoa.
The
other
aspect
is
the
health,
the
safe,
the
health
and
safety
of
the
kids.
When
we
close
and
those
parents
have
to
work,
you
might
give
some
thought
to
the
environment
of
where
they
are
put.
E
It
can
be
unsafe,
it's
with
older
grandparents.
Perhaps
perhaps
it
was
someone
that
shouldn't
be
with,
but
I
mean
not
only
do
we
try
to
educate,
but
we
also
have
healthy
food
there
in
a
healthy
environment,
they're
cared
for
they're
loved
they're,
also
disciplined
and
those
are
all.
Things
are
just
as
important
to
us
as
the
education
and
getting
them
all
ready
to
go
to
school
and
to
be
vital,
working
cooperative
and
sustaining
citizens
and
students
by
the
time
they
get
there.
E
So
there's
another
aspect
in
terms
of
health
and
safety
and
also
the
economy
of
Black
Mountain.
We
thank
you
very,
very
much.
I
think.
Another
thing
that
was
left
out
was
that
we
have
spent
three
years
looking
for
building
that
we
could
possibly
make
changes
to
three
solid
years
without
every
board
member
and
every
realtor
and
everybody
in
the
county.
Helping
us
try
to
find
something
that
was
reasonable
and
not
anything
was
able
to
meet
code
or
could
be
changed
for
us
to
use.
E
Also,
if
most
of
you
could
see
what
we
have
done
over
years,
and
especially
from
the
Hopson
I,
just
she
ought
to
have
a
crown
where
a
head
and
wings
or
a
halo,
maybe
but
keeping
this
that
this
Center
opened.
But
if
you
could
see
what
we
have
to
clean
up,
it
has
been
the
guy
that
owns
that
building
has
not
taken
care
of
it,
and
we
have
a
dentist
on
the
board.
E
A
H
Q
Q
Basically,
e-911
address
coordination
is,
is
housed
in
the
planning
department
and
tonight
this
is
a
formal
naming
exercise.
Our
subject
matter.
Expert
model
white
is
with
us
tonight.
I
just
wanted
outline.
Sometimes
addressing
is
not
an
easy
job
and
it
can
be
quite
controversial,
especially
when
you
look
to
have
to
propose
a
name
change,
so
we
try
to
work
through
those
when
they
come
up.
We
also
in
her
role.
Q
She
strives
to
work
with
emergency
services,
utilities,
municipalities
and
owners
and
neighbors,
and
also
we
work
to
if
there
our
instances
throughout
the
county,
where
you
run
across
a
confusing
or
similar
sounding
name,
you
would
look
to
work
with
emergency
services
personnel
to
come
up
with
something
that's
a
little
more
pronounceable
in
case
emergency
situation
arises.
That
being
said
tonight,
we're
looking
at
two
examples.
The
first
I
want
to
show
you
is
a
proposal
in
the
Reynolds
mountain
area.
The
new
development
there
in
Woodfin
I
hope
I
get
these
right.
Q
But
if
you
change
the
names
tonight,
it
will
avoid
confusion.
So
these
are
really
good
examples.
The
first
one-
and
sometimes
they
look
good
on
a
plat,
but
when
it
comes
to
construction,
they're,
just
not
going
to
work
so
the
first
one
is
de
Lille
drive
to
herald
place,
marigney
lane
to
ava
Lane
and
my
personal
favorite,
all
mana
ster
Street
to
Tara
Terrace
Vista
Lane.
Q
What
you'll
see
here
is
warehouse,
Road
bridge,
Crest,
Drive
and
Georgia
Avenue
sort
of
ring
and
go
through
the
property
itself.
The
proposal
is
to
allow
ridgecrest
dr
to
be
the
circumferential
road
here
and
to
rename
georgia
to
Johnson
spring
court
and
then
at
the
very
top
you'll
see
the
renaming
of
a
road
section
there
to
rec
Hill
Road.
Q
The
one
thing
I
do
want
to
point
out
to
you
in
your
packet
is
a
small
change
here.
The
exhibits
I've
shown
you
are
correct.
Just
in
the
ordinance
itself,
the
one
that
correlates
with
Woodfin
is
actually
Exhibit
C
and
the
ones
that
correlate
with
Ridgecrest
that
I've
just
shown
you
are
actually
a
and
B.
So
that's
just
a
simple
change.
We
can
take
care
of
then
the
ordinance
itself.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
If
you
have
any
questions,
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions,
you
may
have
all.
H
A
N
N
But
what
we're
recommending
is
you
change
it
where
it
doesn't
have
to
be
North,
Carolina
experience,
it
just
has
to
be
relevant
experience.
If
we
don't
do
this,
we're
going
to
have
a
an
impediment
in
trying
to
recruit
people,
particularly
if
they're
from
out
of
state-
and
you
would
run
into
the
same
problem
if
you
were
to
hire
a
county
manager
from
outside
the
state
which
is
a
distinct
possibility
that
you
face.
A
A
C
A
I
A
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
thank
you,
and
now
next
up
is
a
consideration.
Well,
we're
gonna
have
a
public
hearing,
I'm,
sorry,
a
motion
to
call
a
public
hearing
to
amend
the
personnel
ordinance
on
the
sale
of
annual
leave
and
the
date
for
eligibility
determination
for
longevity
pay.
This
is
following
up
on
a
previous
discussion.
The
Commission
had
on
it
that
mr.
wood
would
you
I
that's.
N
Right
y'all,
over
the
last
meeting
you
had
agreed
that
you
were
going
to
limit
the
sale
of
annual
leave
to
forty
hours
per
year.
What
we
did
not
do
is
determine
the
effective
date
of
that
change,
and
so
what
we're
recommending
and
what
I've
done
here
is,
give
you
a
memo
that
explains
it
and
what
we're
recommending
and
then
you
call
the
public
hearing
and
at
the
next
meeting,
we'll
have
the
actual
ordinance
Michael
fru-u--
has
drafted
that
and
we're
reviewing
it
now.
N
So
what
what
we
have
is
the
ordinance
needs
to
address
when
this
policy
change
will
become
effective.
We
did
discuss
this
in
the
managers
advisory
group
and
recommend
that
you
make
the
following
that
you
make
it
effective
date
of
January
15,
2000
19,
there's
several
reasons
for
this
number.
One
employees
may
have
a
lot
of
annual
leave
on
hand
that
they
want
to
sell
before
the
new
rule
takes
effect.
This
would
give
them
time
to
do
so,
but
it
would
also
spread
it.
N
They
could
spread
it
over
to
calendar
years,
which
would
help
them
on
their
state
and
federal
income
taxes.
So
that's
why
we're
recommending
that
the
determination
date
for
rolling
over
excess
annual
leave
into
sick
leave
is
February
1
currently,
and
so
what
we're
proposing
is,
if
you
use
January
15
as
the
cutoff
date.
That
would
give
us
15
days
to
process
any
of
those
sales
before
we
then
hit
that
determination
date
for
rolling
over
excess
vacation
into
sick
leave.
N
We
would
also
like
to
change
the
longevity
portion
of
the
ordinance.
We
are
not
changing
the
accumulation
of
it,
but
the
what
came
out
in
our
discussion
was
that
your
current
policy,
as
it's
written,
says
that
December
1st
is
the
date
at
which
we
determine
eligibility.
The
problem
is
you've
been
paying
it
in
November
you're
supposed.
You
know
the
policy
right
now
says:
you'll
pay
it
in
December,
but
for
whatever
reason
the
informal
policy
has
been
you
pay
it
in
November.
So
what
we
discussed
was,
should
we
go
to
what
or
should
we
change?
N
What's
written
to
what
you've
been
doing
and
I
think
the
general
consensus
was,
we
should
just
change
your
policy
to
match
what
we've
been
doing,
and
so
what
we're
asking
you
to
do
there
is
make
it
the
longevity
pay
would
be
through
November
1
of
each
year.
It
would
be
calculated
and
the
reason
that
matters
is
is
that
in
calculating
longevity,
it's
based
on
your
total
salary,
and
that
includes
any
overtime.
So
what
they've
actually
had
to
do
now?
Is
they
pay
in
November?
N
And
then,
if
somebody
had
overtime
between
November
1
and
December
1,
we've
had
to
go
back
and
do
a
supplemental
check
so
we're
trying
to
get
away
from
that
now.
What
this
means
the
first
year
is
that
we
will
base
it
from
here
on
out
as
to
what
you've
earned
through
November
1,
not
December
1,
but
after
that
it'll
be
November
1
every
year
and
that'll
be
a
full
year.
A
A
A
C
O
O
A
resolution
to
create
an
early
childhood
education
and
development
fund
in
Buncombe
County,
whereas
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners,
has
established
a
strategic
priority
to
ensure
that
every
child
in
Buncombe
County
has
an
equal
opportunity
to
thrive
during
their
first
2000
days,
including
access
to
quality.
Early
childhood
education.
O
Early
childhood
education,
whereas
there
is
a
well-documented
local
shortage
of
quality.
Early
childhood
education
programs
and
families
face
many
barriers
to
accessing
existing
programs,
including
affordability,
whereas
there
is
a
well-documented
shortage
of
qualified
teachers
and
staff
and
classrooms
and
centers,
and
whereas
it
will
require
collaboration,
innovation
and
a
significant
investment
of
both
public
and
private
funding.
In
order
to
scale
up
the
current
local
early
childhood
education
system
to
meet
documented
needs.
A
The
committee
members
will
be
appointed
to
serve
two-year
terms
starting
in
January
of
2019.
The
purpose
of
the
subcommittee
will
be
to
engage
with
community
partners,
solicit
public
input
and
make
policy
and
investment
recommendations
to
the
Commission.
All
formal
decisions
on
investments
and
policies
must
be
made
by
the
full
commission.
A
All
right,
so
that's
the
that's
the
resolution
all
right.
Thank
you,
but
please
don't
please
don't
please
don't
applaud
or
boo,
no
matter
how
much
you
like
or
dislike
what
any
of
us
are.
Other
people
in
the
meeting
have
to
say
so.
That's
the
resolution.
First,
let's
just
see,
if
there's
a
motion
in
a
second
on
the
resolution.
C
C
This
is
you
know
this
is
my
second
to
last
meeting
and
to
me
it
means
a
tremendous
amount
to
be
a
part
of
this
discussion
later
on
we're
going
to
hear
about
a
amazing
grant
from
the
MacArthur
Foundation
about
jail
diversion
and
as
chief
as
judge
Hill
once
said,
pre-k
is
the
best
shield
diversion
program.
There
is
so
for
many
many
reasons
I'm
thoroughly.
Supportive
of
this
and
I
appreciate
the
Commission,
the
staff
that
have
worked
on
this
and
we
have
to
start
somewhere
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
start
investment.
A
L
The
question
is:
if
early
childhood
education
were
expanded,
would
families
utilize
that
we
know
that
there
are
about
7500
children,
ages,
birth
through
age,
five
in
Buncombe
County,
who
are
not
enrolled
in
licensed
care,
but
how
many
of
those
need
care
are
looking
for?
Care
have
attempted
to
get
in
to
care
for
their
kids
and
not
been
successful.
So
that's
a
tough
population
to
get
a
lot
of
detail
about,
but
there
are
a
couple
of
things
that
we
can
look
at.
L
L
We
know
that
there
are
about
a
hundred
in
I,
think
they're
118
licensed
centers
or
homes
providing
child
care
early
childhood
education
in
Buncombe
County,
and
they
were
able
to
make
connection
with
ninety
five
of
those.
So
eighty
percent
to
ask
about
wait
lists
can
ask
about
demand
and
of
those
that
reported
wait
lists
what's
tricky
because
our
system
is
decentralized.
L
Those
wait
lists:
it's
not
one
master
waitlist
for
all
families
in
the
community,
so
a
family
might
put
their
children
on
a
waitlist
in
one
Center
and
also
put
their
children
on
a
waitlist
in
another
center.
But
another
tricky
thing
about
it
is
that
some
centers
cap
their
waiting
lists-
oh
don't
maintain
waiting
lists,
so
it's
hard
to
use
waiting
lists
data
to
get
a
true
picture
of
need.
L
L
Bunkin
partnership
for
children
leads
the
asheville,
bunka
and
preschool
planning
collaborative
who
did
a
presentation
to
the
board
of
commissioners
during
our
work
session
a
year
ago
in
September
of
2017
and
reported
some
information
from
a
family
or
parent
survey,
and
that
also
indicated
pretty
overwhelming
need
for
care
and
desire
for
the
care.
Ninety
one
percent
of
respondents
said
they
need
or
want
preschool.
That
survey
was
specific
to
preschool
end
of
the
earliest
childhood
spectrum.
L
Top
reasons
for
wanting
care
were
getting
their
kids
into
supportive
learning,
environments
and
social
environments,
but
also
care
so
that
they
could
work,
go
to
school
parents,
surveyed,
reported
barriers
to
care
being
cost
and
availability
not
being
able
to
find
a
slot
or
not
being
able
to
afford
a
slot.
So
data
that
supports
things
that
we
already
know
to
be
true
from
other
sources
and
indicates
that
there
is
demand
for
expansion
things
to
keep
in
mind.
Do
you
want
to
point
out
that
it's
while
the
resolution
did
a
good
job?
Speaking
to
this?
L
L
Other
considerations
are
around
the
sort
of
custom
needs
location
of
care.
We
can
really
drill
into
that
data
and
look
at
like
Commissioner
Belcher
asked:
where
are
the
pockets
of
need?
What
by
zip
code
or
other
geography?
Where
do
we
see
need
and
then
also?
Where
do
we
see
need
in
terms
of
special
needs
that
children
may
be
presenting
in
centers
such
as
maybe
babies
who
are
born
dependent,
opioids
or
other
substances
presenting
new
needs
for
providers
and
centers
to
respond
to?
L
So
that's
the
first
piece
which
was
addressing
the
community
need
question
and
then
there's
another
piece
related
to
structure
of
the
fund.
Just
wanted
to
remark
that,
if
directed
by
commission
county
staff
has
a
couple
of
places
that
we
would
turn
to
to
get
ideas
about
how
a
fund
could
be
structured,
Buncombe,
County
already
of
ministers
public
funds
through
organized
processes.
We
do
this
for
aging
funds.
We
do
this
for
criminal
justice
funds.
We
do
this
for
affordable
housing
funds,
so
we
could
look
at
Buncombe
County's
own
structures.
L
We
could
also
look
at
what
we
do
on
a
smaller
scale
within
our
early
childhood
investments
that
pre-k
fund.
We
were
talking
about
earlier
in
the
meeting,
and
we
could
also
look
at
other
communities
across
North
Carolina
and
across
the
nation
that
are
doing
this
on
a
larger
scale.
So,
just
a
couple
of
remarks
from
this
staff
perspective
before
you
take
public
comment.
Thank
you,
Thank.
A
T
K
K
T
T
And
your
name
is
awesome
and
your
name
is-
and
we
had
some
other
friends
that
had
to
leave
early
because
older
siblings
had
to
do
homework.
But
what
we
know
is
really
important
is
that
investment
in
these
children
is
a
really
good
investment
for
the
now
and
the
future.
And
so
we
want
to
thank
you
for
prioritizing
our
children
and
the
ways
that
you
already
have,
and
we
are
really
hopeful
that
tonight
that
you
are
pass
that
will
prioritize
our
children
for
many
many
years
to
come.
Our
kids
benefit
from
preschool.
T
We
have
folks
here
that
are
looking
right
now
to
try
to
find
a
preschool
option
and
they
can't
find
one
on
their
own
long
waiting
list,
and
so
we
know
that
this
makes
a
big
difference.
So
we
have
a
sign.
Do
you
want
to
show
your
sign
real
quick?
Can
all
the
kids?
Oh,
you
might
pick
up
kids
help
with
a
sign.
T
Now
in
high
school,
named
olive
and
I
told
her
about
what
the
kids
were
doing
tonight
and
I'll
have
said:
Oh
preschool
the
best
years
of
my
life,
and
so
these
kids
superheroes
say,
invest
in
more
early
childhood
education,
and
we
thank
you
for
your
work
and
your
continued
leadership
and
we're
going
to
leave.
So
we
can
have
some
decorum
in
the
meeting.
T
U
That
is
a
tough
act
to
follow.
My
name
is
Corey.
Price
I
have
lived
in
Nashville
for
eight
years,
but
I'm
from
the
region
I
have
known.
I
was
gonna,
be
an
early
childhood
educator.
Since
I
was
eight
years
old,
I
started
teaching
at
the
a
BTEC
child
care
center.
That
I
was
part
of
the
process
when
it
closed
down
and
I
watched.
U
What
happened
to
the
parents
and
what
happened
to
the
staff
there
and
from
there
I
went
to
teach
in
public
kindergarten,
and
I
would
like
to
say
that
early
childhood
is
in
a
critical
condition.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
really
step
up
and
prevent
a
crisis.
I
am
witnessing
I
work
for
a
nonprofit
called
IB
me
where
a
trauma-informed
nonprofit
I
spend
about
10
hours
a
week
in
different
public
schools,
and
it
is
too
late
by
the
time
they're
in
kindergarten.
U
We
cannot
wait
for
the
kids
to
get
there
to
start
having
some
interactions
with
them
that
are
on
the
level
of
social,
emotional,
cognitive
and
physical
development,
and
that
is
exactly
what
high
quality
education
does
and
I
really
want
to
commend
you
for
what
you
did
today
and
you
stood
behind
a
child
care
center.
That
was
in
crisis.
That
actually
gives
me
a
seed
of
hope.
I
have
a
building
in
West
Asheville
that
I
want
to
create
a
child
care
center
has
I
bought.
U
We
bought
it
and
purchased
it
with
a
philanthropist
in
April,
and
it
has
taken
us
until
now
to
even
think
about
considering
an
opening
date.
There's
just
not
funding
for
opening
child
care.
Centers,
there's
a
lot
of
barriers
in
the
way
and
I
really
hope
you
guys
consider
to
put
more
money
so
that
we
can
actually
open
these
childcare
stands,
but
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
really
want
to
get
behind
this,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
some
story
from
the
trenches
all.
R
Thank
You
commissioners,
my
name
is
Jim
Barrett
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
Pisgah
legal
services,
I've
been
a
resident
of
Hong
Kong
County
for
35
years,
and
I've
worked
physically
go
services
for
35
years.
So,
as
you
might
guess,
I'm
very
much
in
support
of
this
resolution.
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
we've
had
clients
who
wish
they
could
work
but
couldn't
afford
to
work
and
they
couldn't
afford
to
stay
home.
You
know
we
don't
have
welfare
anymore
in
this
country
and
therefore
you
can't
stay
home
and
raise
your
own
kids.
R
You've
got
to
work
and
if
you
have
to
work-
and
you
don't
have
childcare
you're
going
to
leave
those
kids
in
an
unsafe
situation.
So
this
is
a
very
serious
problem.
It's
also
an
economic
development
issue.
We
have
a
need
for
good
workers.
We
have
need
for
educated
workers.
Folks
can't
go
back
to
school
and
get
training.
They
can't
get
their
jobs
if
they
don't
have
a
place
to
leave
their
children.
So
I
guess
this
is
pretty
obvious,
but
I
thought
I
should
point
it
out
says.
Unfortunately,
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
this.
R
We
have
tried
a
lot
of
things
to
close
the
achievement
gap
between
low-income
children
and
children
of
middle
income
and
higher
income,
and
one
of
the
things
we've
got
to
try
now
is
early
childhood
education.
The
science
is
behind
that
that
it
will
make
a
huge
difference.
It's
a
great
investment.
It's
going
to
be
pointed
out,
I'm
sure,
later
on,
that
we
don't
pay
our
early
childhood
education
teachers
enough
and
therefore
it's
hard
for
them
to
make
a
living
in
our
community,
and
so
that's
an
issue,
and
it
cries
out
for
government
assistance.
R
It's
too
bad.
The
state
hasn't
figured
that
out
and
but
we
commend
you
for
figuring
it
out
as
board
of
commissioners
I.
Thank
you
for
all
that
you're
doing
in
the
priority
areas
that
you've
identified.
It
is
a
wonderful
place
to
live,
and
it's
wonderful
to
have
great
commissioners
who
see
the
needs.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
as
well
that
Pisgah
legal
services
has
been
affected
in
our
employment
base.
R
We've
lost
employees
that
we
were
trying
to
bring
here
from
other
counties
because
they
could
not
find
childcare
and
I
know
of
at
least
one
person
who
lives
in
West
Asheville,
who
has
to
drive
way
down
in
the
south
to
the
county
to
have
childcare
and
then
come
to
work
at
physical
legal
services
and
then
repeat
that
in
the
after
hours.
So
if
we
had
child
care
in
the
right
regions,
we
could
save
a
lot
of
gas
and
her
families
would
have
more
income
for
other
things,
like
health
insurance.
R
By
the
way
open
enrollment
starts
since
where
there
is
an
audience,
a
county
audience
if
you're
not
insured
for
health
insurance,
you
can
help
pay
for
your
child
care
if
you
get
in
expensive
health
insurance.
So
please
do
that
and
contact
because
of
physical
legal
services.
If
you
need
counseling
about
how
to
do
it.
Thank.
K
Good
evening,
commissioners,
my
name
is
Caitlin
Johnson
I
was
last
here
back
in
June
after
I
was
finishing
up
an
internship
with
the
pre-chilled
Nygaard
working
on
a
master's
degree
in
early
childhood,
so
I'm
happy
to
be
here
tonight,
because
I'm
I'm
no
longer
in
graduate
school
I
have
that
degree
and
so
I'm.
Here
more
as
a
citizen,
because
I
care
about
our
kids
I
work
for
Buncombe
County,
Schools
I
teach
early
childhood
education
at
her
one
high
school.
K
We
have
a
preschool
there
that
I
oversee,
which
many
of
you
came
to
visit
last
February,
which
was
a
wonderful
day
and
I,
want
a
piggyback
real,
quick
just
on
what
Cory
said
about
when
students
come
into
Buncombe
County
Schools,
without
having
high-quality
preschool
it's
already
too
late.
Those
numbers
back
that
up
in
the
2016-17
school
year,
more
than
half
of
our
kids
when
they
enter
kindergarten,
we're
scoring
below
and
on
the
benchmark
assessments
in
reading
and
math
or
school
scoring
below,
where
they
should
be
when
they
enter
kindergarten.
K
So
that
tells
us
right
there
that
we've
got
kids,
who
aren't
we're
the
state
and
the
country
says
that
they
need
to
be,
and
so
this
fund
can
absolutely
help
that
I'm
also
here
tonight,
to
represent
my
students.
A
few
of
them
are
here
tonight
as
well
for
the
workforce
development
piece,
because
we
we
have
the
students
who
are
interested.
They
get
to
work
with
the
kids
every
day
and
they
know
the
wages
aren't
great.
K
They
know
that
it's
going
to
be
challenging
moving
forward,
but
they
work
with
those
kids
every
day
and
they
see
what
happens
when
they
get
to
have
those
connections
and
make
those
relationships
and
watch
them
grow.
So
thank
you
for
this
and
I
hope
that
tonight
is
a
historic
moment
for
early
childhood
in
Buncombe
County.
V
Hello,
I'm
Sydney,
a
student
at
urban
high
school
because
of
the
outstanding
early
childhood
program
that
my
schools
offers.
I
have
I've,
had
the
opportunity
to
work
in
a
preschool
classroom
and
find
that
working
with
young
children
is
my
passion,
I
plan
to
get
my
four-year
degree
right
out
of
high
school
and
as
soon
as
I
graduate
college
I
plan
to
obtain
a
job
as
a
preschool
teacher
I'm
here,
because
this
development
fund
would
help
early
childhood
education
in
so
many
different
ways.
V
It
would
do
so
much
to
help.
People
like
me
go
into
the
field
with
greater
opportunity,
especially
those
who
weren't
as
fortunate
to
have
the
experience
working
in
a
preschool
while
they
attend
high
school,
as
we
were
able
to
in
the
program
I'm
in
this
one
would
also
be
amazing
and
supporting
the
education
of
young
children
and
to
help
them
prepare
prepare
for
their
future
as
students
and
members
of
our
community
with
that
I.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time
and
I.
V
W
Hi,
my
name
is
Katherine
Lebec
and
I
am
here
representing
five
Asheville
churches.
They
are
st.
Eugene's,
Catholic,
st.
Paul's
Methodist,
st.
Mark's
Lutheran,
st.
mary's
episcopal
and
the
Western
North
Carolina
Baptist
Fellowship
for
years
several
years.
Members
of
these
corporations
have
done
awful
lot
of
things
together.
W
We've
worshiped,
together,
we've
studied
together
with
surf
together,
oftentimes
that
service
in
the
past
has
been
charity
work
over
the
past
few
years,
we've
changed
our
conversation
somewhat
to
move
more
toward
justice
work,
and
in
that
effort
we
began
to
we've
burned
down
a
bunch
of
rabbit
trails,
trying
to
figure
out
what
that
might
mean
for
our
congregation,
and
over
this
timeframe
we
have
studied
and
learned
about
the
importance
of
high
quality,
early
childhood
education
in
addressing
generational
poverty.
So
we
have
developed
and
created
an
initiative
called
loving
neighbors.
W
Our
vision
is
the
development
of
programs
and
ministries
to
address
generational
poverty.
This
goes
beyond
acts
of
charity,
which
typically
only
addressed
current
circumstance
and
move
us
into
preventing
poverty.
Our
mission
is
to
provide
high
quality
care
and
education
where
children
thrive
and
families
first
flourish,
specifically
for
children
of
families
in
poverty.
W
We've
moved
beyond
this
commitment
to
action.
Funds
have
already
been
allocated
to
renovate
space
in
one
of
our
churches
so
that
we
can
assure
that
we
can
be
licensed
to
provide
full
day
care
in
that
church
and
construction
bids
are
being
sought.
As
we
speak
in
assessing
needs.
We
have
learned
that
the
greatest
shortage
of
care
is
for
infants
and
toddlers.
It's
children
under
three
right
now.
W
So
in
the
in
considering
availability
countywide,
you
can
add
five
more
5-star
centers
that
accept
infants
and
toddlers.
I
did
not
call
them,
but
expect
that
if
I
did,
the
results
would
be
just
as
dismal.
The
lack
of
availability
of
high-quality
care
for
our
youngest
children
should
be
considered
a
crisis.
W
What
else
did
we
learn?
We
learn
that
infants
and
toddlers
are
the
most
expensive
population
to
serve,
and
rightly
so,
because
they
are
the
most
vulnerable
and,
at
the
same
time,
the
most
likely
to
benefit
from
high-quality,
developmentally
appropriate
care.
Our
families
who
are
living
in
poverty
did
I
talk
too
long.
Sorry.
A
W
X
X
We
can
serve
up
to
42
children,
so
these
are
three
to
five
year
old
classrooms
and
we
actually
right
now
have
23
slots
available
for
the
3
to
5
year
olds,
and
we
are
actively
telling
the
community
that
if
you
want
high
quality
early
childhood
childcare,
3
to
5
to
come
to
the
light
of
ECA.
So
please
help
us
get
out.
The
word
part
of
that
is
we're
going
to
have
an
open
house
on
December
1st
and
all
of
you
are
invited
as
well
community.
X
We
will
be
celebrating
the
opening
of
these
classrooms
as
a
Saturday
afternoon
from
1
to
3,
and
we
will
be
showcasing
the
classrooms
the
renovations
we
did
with
county
funds
for
floors,
sing
equipments,
all
those
things
that
you
let
us
do
and
the
teachers
will
be
there
and
our
families
will
be
there
or
we'll
be
doing
activities.
So
we're
really
trying
to
get
the
word
out.
I
want
to
reinforce
what
this
other
lady
just
said
about
our
waiting
list.
So
we
have
a
waiting
list
for
a
birth
to
two
and
a
half.
X
We
have
a
hundred
and
sixty-eight
unduplicated
families
in
the
past
three
months
have
called
for
early
infant
care
and
nany.
None
of
those
are
private
pay
in
7400
room
vouchers.
So
this
is
beyond
a
crisis
for
infants
to
two
and
a
half
year
olds.
I
want
to
also
raise
the
point
that
I've
shared
with
some
of
you
before
that
we
would
not
be
in
this
crisis
if
we
were
paid
at
the
same
rate
as
other
large
communities
like
muckenberger,
County
or
Wake
County.
X
If
the
YWCA
childcare
center
was
plopped
down,
Wake
County,
our
reimbursement
rate
would
bringing
in
another
twenty
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
year
and
when
we
did
analysis
last
spring
and
the
numbers
might
have
shifted
slightly,
but
the
difference
between
childcare
centers
funded
in
Buncombe
County
versus
Wake
County
was
five
million
dollar
impact
on
our
County.
So
why
ask
you
to
support
and
invest
in
this
I?
X
It's
only
a
bridge
for
a
year
or
two
until
they
can
fix
that
reimbursement
rate,
because
that
would
make
a
huge
difference
to
our
community
to
be
paid
fairly
for
our
vouchers
and
that's
a
piece
of
advocacy
work
that
we
can
all
continue
to
do
so
that
we
have
an
alternative
market
rate
for
childcare
vouchers.
I
also
want
to
highlight
that
the
lack
of
affordable
childcare
is
the
biggest
barrier
barrier
to
women's
economic
success
and,
as
Jim
stated,
this
is
a
barrier
for
women
being
in
the
work
force.
X
So
it's
an
economic
development
issue
and
I
think
you're
very
farsighted
to
look
at
it
holistically
and
look
at
ways
to
expand
slots
to
improve
teacher
quality
and
retention
and
I
appreciate
your
interest.
Your
support
of
the
YWCA
and
I
really
hope
you
support
this
further
investment
in
our
community
and
our
little
ones.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
Y
Good
afternoon
friends,
I'm
Leslie
Anderson
child
advocate
I
live
in
Asheville
oversight
of
a
fund.
This
size
is
not
to
be
taken
lightly
and
requires
heightened
accountability.
Measures
I
applaud
the
proposal
in
the
resolution
to
include
three
commissioners
as
part
of
the
funds.
Oversight
Committee,
in
addition
to
the
commissioners,
proposed
that
a
group
of
community
representatives
join
them
as
advisors,
a
team
of
County
staff,
local
early
childhood
educators
and
experts,
families
who
are
users
of
these
services
and
business
representatives.
Y
With
the
committee
such
as
this
working
with
the
commissioners,
we
have
the
ability
to
develop
a
comprehensive,
focused,
systemic
process
and
plan
for
the
fund
and
early
childhood
services
generally
to
your
point
earlier
on
process
for
early
childhood
education,
investing
well
will
require
thoughtful
discernment
and
strategic
grants
from
among
many
ideas
and
priorities
for
the
workforce,
for
children
and
for
families.
A
systemic
sequential
plan
could
develop
foundational
elements
essential
for
transformational
success.
Y
It
would
embrace
the
work
of
the
Asheville
bunk
on
preschool
planning,
collaborative
help,
leverage
additional
funding
and
address
opportunities
and
identified
barriers
to
high-quality
early
care
and
education
for
children
birth
to
age.
Five
I
commend
you
for
your
public
service,
for
your
leadership,
for
your
vision
with
gratitude.
Thank
you.
Z
Hi
Greg
born
with
children
first
committees
in
schools
of
Buchan
county
commissioners.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
the
support
that
you've
given
to
early
childhood
over
the
years
and
for
making
it
one
of
your
strategic
priorities.
We
think
that
this
is
an
amazing
opportunity.
Before
you,
many
of
you
have
familiar
with
our
family
friendly,
affordable,
Buncombe
work,
which
is
outlined,
the
need
for
investment
in
early
childhood
in
housing
and
transportation
to
make
our
community
family-friendly
and
affordable.
Z
Z
You're
sending
the
message
that
the
county
is
really
in
this
at
a
different
level
than
it
has
been
and
I
think
that
will
attract
new
projects,
new
ideas
to
you
that
will
end
up
leveraging
additional
investments
like
that,
like
the
one
we've
seen
earlier
tonight
and
I.
Thank
you
for
this
consideration
and
it
looks
forward
to
moving
forward
with
you.
Thank
you.
Yeah
I'm.
S
Vicky
Meath
I
wanted
to
come
up
here
with
Greg
because
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
say
a
lot
to
add
to
what's
already
been
said.
We
just
wanted
to
I'm
the
director
of
just
economics
and
add
our
voice
of
support
behind
this
plan
and
the
family
friendly,
affordable,
Buncombe
plan,
and
thank
you
for
your
work
to
make
this
count.
Only
a
more
affordable
place
to
live,
Thanks.
AA
Hello,
are
you
suing
this
evening,
I'm
Tamika
King
district
manager,
what
child
care
network?
My
piece
I
definitely
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
work
in
your
attention
to
this
matter
and,
as
you
guys
were
stating
earlier
regarding
the
childcare
center
in
Black
Mountain
as
being
a
crisis
on
what
what's
in
front
of
us
right
now
is
a
crisis
as
well
I've
been
in
the
early
childhood
field.
AA
For
the
state,
whether
it's
in
a
public
school
setting
or
even
accomplishing
or
achieving
their
BK
license,
so
that
they're
able
to
make
more
money-
and
that
brings
me
to
the
the
issue
of
not
being
able
to
afford
to
pay
them
and
give
the
children
what
it
is
that
they're
needing
as
for
the
quality
quality
childcare,
is
so
much
more
than
materials
and
nice.
You
know
classroom
materials
and,
and
what
you
see
and
what
the
environment
looks
like.
Quality
childcare
has
a
lot
to
do
with
supervision.
AA
Everyone
is
not
qualified
to
supervise
a
child,
and
everyone
does
not
meet
the
qualifications,
and
it's
not
able
to
do
that
at
a
hundred
percent
expectation
of
what
we
would
want
when
we
send
our
children
to
childcare,
and
that
leads
us
to
who
we
have
caring
for
our
children.
We
talk
about.
You
know
low-income
children
and
poverty.
A
lot
of
my
teachers
are
experienced
in
that
today,
as
well
families
on
vouchers.
AA
But
this
is
definitely
a
I
mean
it's
a
call
for
paying
attention
to
this,
and
I
would
hope
that,
whatever
plan
we
come
up
with
once,
if
the
funds
are
there
for
the
county,
that
it's
very
intentional
on
finding
quality
teachers,
intentional
teachers
not
babysitters,
because
it's
not
what
we
do
but
early
educators
who
are
intentional
and
who
are
quality
and
who
are
meant
to
be
in
this
field
and
do
what's
right
by
every
single
child
and
I'm,
not
just
referring
to
the
pre-k
children.
It
includes
our
babies.
AA
Alright,
our
infants,
excuse
me,
as
you've
heard
infant
birth
to
two
is
where
the
waitlist
is
at.
That
is
where
a
lot
of
the
need
is
that,
but
that
is
also
where
a
lot
of
people
will
come
into
an
interview
with
me
or
with
one
of
my
directors
and
say:
I
can't
do
it
it's
too
much
work,
and
so
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
step
up.
AA
AB
Good
evening,
I'm
Amy
berry
the
executive
director
of
bunkum
partnership
for
children
and,
thanks
to
all
of
you
for
taking
the
time
to
grapple
with
this
really
important
issue
and
the
energy
that
you've
put
into
it
I
applaud
the
resolution.
I
want
to
thank
my
friends
and
colleagues
in
the
audience
who
have
stepped
up
tonight
to
share
their
views
and
help
you
have
a
deeper
understanding
of
what
the
need
is.
AB
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
most
critical,
as
we
think
about
the
creation
of
a
fund
is
an
opportunity
to
really
put
together
a
thoughtful
plan
where
we
can
look
at
the
sustainability
of
these
efforts.
We
heard
a
compelling
story
this
evening
about
the
need
for
expanded
childcare
in
Black
Mountain
I
support
that
wholeheartedly,
but
I
think
a
bigger
step
towards
creating
a
comprehensive
plan
will
allow
us
to
look
at.
How
do
we
need
to
prioritize
the
needs?
AB
How
can
we
build
initial
the
energy
around
this
work
and
figure
out
the
best
way
in
order
to
address
the
workforce
shortage?
We
we
can't
expand
slots.
We
know
we
cannot
expand
thoughts
until
we
address
the
workforce
shortage.
So
this
resolution
talks
about
the
need
for
development
of
the
workforce,
as
well
as
the
need
for
slot
expansion
and
subsidies
for
families
who
perhaps
don't
don't
qualify
for
a
subsidy
but
are
working.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
considering
this
and
for
your
vision.
AC
The
there's
been
numerous
studies
that
have
shown
the
economics
improved
health
outcomes,
as
well
as
reducing
risk
in
general
for
our
population
as
as
kids
age.
To
get
this
these
services
in
early
and
often,
and
also
personally,
in
an
anecdotally
in
our
May
heck
clinic.
You
know
we
see
this
issue
affecting
our
families
on
a
daily
basis.
The
crunch
is
real.
The
need
is
also
real
and
there's
downstream
effects
as
well.
There
was
another
person
that
mentioned
you
know.
AC
A
A
Responding
to
the
comments
that
Leslie
shared
with
us
about
the
community
involvement,
part
and
I
certainly
think
that
that's
critical
and
certainly
I
think
that's
as
I've
sort
of
heard
from
other
commissioners
and
staff
about
you
know
if
we
do
have
additional
investments
and
we
look
at
a
process
for
how
we
reallocate
those,
because
even
if
we
do
make
this,
you
know
pretty
significant
increase
in
funding.
The
needs
will
be
far
greater
than
these
resources
will
address.
A
I
think
we
already
all
know
that
so,
but
I
think
we've
had
a
great
process
for
working
with
the
community
over
the
last
couple
of
years
to
really
explore
this
issue
in
depth
and
I,
certainly
envision
that
that
will
continue
to
be
a
big
big
part
of
it.
I
like
having
the
Commission
subcommittee
to
kind
of
really
drill
down
in
this
deeper
than
where
sometimes
gonna
have
time
to
do.
You
know
in
a
full
commission
meeting.
A
My
sense
is
that
that
will
be
mostly
about
kind
of
working
with
the
community
leaders
and
people
who
work
in
the
sector
to
get
their
ideas
for
how
to
move
this
process
forward.
So
I
just
want
to
echo
that
I
think
that's
those
were
great
comments
and
and
really
all
about
with
that
that
working
group
of
the
Commission
would
be
involved
in
mr.
Freud.
You
come
in
okay,.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
Pour
out
the
need-
and
they
are
specific
in
the
ask-
then
we're
able
to
address
that
based
on
the
revenue
that
we
have
or
that
that
we're
willing
to
stake
ourselves
out
on,
like
we
did
tonight
and
so
I
like
that
that
that
way,
I'm
when
I
read
the
first
page
of
the
resolution,
I
support
all
the
where
assets
that
are
there
and
and
and
I
won't
change
that
and
I.
Don't
think
that
I'd
say.
Probably
all
the
commissioners
up
here
support
that
so.
D
And
I
mean
we're
going
to
quote
miss
Anderson
twice,
you
know,
miss
Anderson
mentioned
some
things
about
reaching
out
to
others
and
in
in
the
advocacy
of
that
and
leveraging
some
of
additional
funding,
and
we
have
some
great
staff
that
can
do
that
and-
and
you
know,
I
think
as
we're
moving
forward
in
this
and
we're
trying
to
address
this
situation.
You
know
I
would
like
to
fully
utilize
that
staff
and
being
able
to
go
out
and
do
these
things
and
bring
those
those
needs
back
to
us.
I.
D
Don't
think
we
have
to
say
that
we're
going
to
take
you
know,
1%.
You
know
in
establish
that
as
part
of
the
budget
I
don't
think
we
have
to
do
that.
We
could
that
could
we
could
have
the
ability
to
actually
spend
more
than
that
it
makes
men
less,
but
we
could
have
the
ability
to
do
too
more
than
that.
So
that's
the
part
that
that
concerns
me
also
with
with
the
doublet
Trust
Foundation
and
the
the
the
sale
of
a
mission.
D
You
know
we
we
have
some
questions
that
that
haven't
been
answered.
Yet
we
don't
know
exactly
when
the
sale
is
going
to
come
through
when
it's
coming
through.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
counting
that
money
at
the
same
time.
If
that
does
go
through
then
that
foundation
I
believe
is
going
to
be
able
to
be
a
big
help
to
Buncombe
County
when
it
comes
to
petitioning
for
the
health
needs
of
our
children.
D
I
believe
that
early
childhood
pre-k
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
not
a
hard,
not
a
hard
ask
and
I
believe
there'll
be
I,
believe
I'm
hopeful
that
they'll
they'll
be
open
to
that,
we'll
be
able
to
achieve
additional
funding
there.
So
I
mean
I'm
in
support
of
the
process
I'm
in
support
of
the
collaboration
I'm
in
support
of
reaching
out
to
some
of
the
partners
that
have
been
here
tonight,
I'm
just
not
in
support
of
earmarking
1%
in
a
in
a
future
budget.
D
I
would
I
would
love
when
we
have
something
like
that.
That's
working,
I
would
love
to
see
us
invest
more
dollars
in
in
those
that
we
see
right
now.
It's
working
that
can
that
can
reach
out
to
to
the
community
and,
as
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
ladies
said.
We
have
an
immediate
need
right
now
and
I
think
that's
one
way
that
we
can
do.
That
is
through
some
of
the
partnerships
that
we
have
with
the
schools
and
and
I.
D
Don't
think
that
that's
an
issue
by
statute
at
all
is
that
we
can
reach
out
to
the
schools.
We
can
help
the
schools
and
we
can.
We
can
we
can
do
that
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
right
now
and
but
I'm
glad
for
the
discussion
and
the
commitment
is
there.
You
know
for
me,
except
for
going
ahead
and
you're
marking
that
and
I
think
we've
got
some
things.
We
need
to
some
other
things
we
can
do
before.
We
actually
have
it.
You
have
to
do
that.
D
A
M
My
good
friend
Leslie
Anderson
come
up
unless
we
all
are
gonna
use
you,
but
I
think
we've
been
through
more
Wars
and
everybody
up
here
together
over
the
years.
You
know
I,
think
of
a
conversation
I
had
with
my
mom
a
few
months
before
she
died
and
at
that
time
I
think
she
knew
that
you
know
things
were
coming
close
to
him
and
I
talked
to
several
people
about
maybe
getting
into
politics.
M
On
the
Commission
and
mom
told
me
something
she's,
because
I've
taken
care
of
she
and
dad
for
five
years
and
they
knew
I
wouldn't
do
anything
as
long
as
they
were
around.
But
she
told
me
something
then
there's
I
sit
here
tonight:
I
can't
help,
but
go
back
to
she
said
son.
Remember
the
way
we
brought
you
up
and
you've
always
done
this
and
I
hope.
You
will
continue
to
do
what
you
think
is
right,
no
matter
who.
Y
M
Take
off
sometimes
it's
going
to
happen
and
when
I
listen,
I.
Think
of
when
my
grandson
went
to
kindergarten
and
he's
doing
great
now
in
middle
school,
but
he
was
fortunate
because
his
grandmom
retired,
but
or
he
went
to
kindergarten.
So
he
had
his
own
private
tutor,
a
34-year
teacher
before
he
went.
M
He
know
all
this
cuz
grandmom
had
prepared
and
then,
when
I
think
the
8
years
are
spent
on
Asheville
City
School
Board
I've
served
on
the
second-highest
funded
School
District
in
the
state
per
pupil.
But
when
you
look
at
it
today,
the
achievement
gap
is
wider
than
it
was
when
I
was
on
the
school
board,
and
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
is,
kids
are
coming
into
the
school
system
not
prepared,
and
when
you
get
behind
early
on
I've
seen
you
don't
catch
up.
M
So
when
I
look
at
what
we're
spending
for
the
jails,
what
we're
spending
policing
and
all
that
you
know
it
brings
me
back
to
say
now
and
I've
wrestled
with
this
and
even
today,
but
we're
the
point
folks.
Can
we
afford
not
to
do
this
and
I
know
in
some
cases
to
stick
it
out
with
sticking
ourselves
out
on
a
limb,
but
we
at
a
point.
M
This
is
a
crisis
not
only
in
Buncombe
County
but
all
over
the
country,
but
I
hope
we
have
the
guts
tonight
to
do
what's
right
for
our
community
and
I
think
that's
critical.
We
have
got
to
do
we're
losing
too
many
young
people
they're
falling
by
the
wayside
when
I
see
a
12
year
old
kid
that's
out
at
3:00
in
the
morning
and
killed
I
know
that's
another
issue,
but
rather
these
kids.
It
all
goes
back,
they
don't
have
a
foundation
to
work
from
and
I
think
it's
some
things
that
we
owe
to
the
community.
M
C
Follow
up
on
what
I'm
a
very
happy
grandmother,
my
granddaughter
is
gonna,
be
17
in
December
and
she
was
afforded
great
child
care
from
the
top
both
of
her
parents
worked.
They
had
she
has
two
grandmas
and
that
are
very
involved,
and
so
when
she
went
to
school
she
was
prepared.
But
this
is
an
issue
about
economics.
C
O
There's
a
couple
points
I'd
like
to
make
it
I,
don't
think
the
question
we're
voting
on
is
about
how
much
people
love
kids
or
how
important
folks
think
it
is
that
we
address
the
needs
of
kids
I.
Think
it's
a
question
of
what
priority
we're
ready
to
put
on
that
and
and
a
question
of
whether
we
recognize
the
crisis.
That's
there
when
you
hear
that
21
percent
of
kids
in
our
community
don't
have
enough
to
eat
that
46
percent
of
kids
in
our
community
are
living
in
low-income
and
poor
homes.
O
The
case
makes
itself
anyway.
You
come
at
it
there's
decades
of
research
backing
this
up,
that's
research.
At
the
national
level,
it's
research
at
the
state
level,
North
Carolina,
it's
research,
that's
been
reinforced
at
the
local
level.
3.6
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money.
Yes,
we
want
to
think
about
every
single
tax
payer
dollars
wisely
and
judiciously,
but
these
are
not
normal
investment
dollars.
There's
a
13
percent
return
on
investment.
O
That's
been
documented
for
every
dollar
invested
in
quality,
early
childhood
education
and
that
return
comes
in
the
form
of
improved
educational
outcomes,
improved
earning
capacity
for
children
when
they
enter
the
workforce
and
include
improved
health
outcomes
for
children
and
their
families.
When
they've
had
access
to
this
kind
of
resource,
I
think
at
the
family
level,
each
of
us
thinks
about
that
we'd
do
anything
in
the
world
for
our
kids,
but
at
the
community
level.
O
We
need
to
think
about
that
too,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we
don't
do
talk
the
talk,
but
that
really
really
walked
the
walk
and
showing
up
and
I.
Think
Buncombe.
County
can
be
a
kid
we're
a
community
where
we
don't
just
talk
about
kids
thriving,
but
we
do
everything
in
our
power
to
make
that
possible
we're
blessed
to
have
an
extraordinary
community
of
advocates
extraordinary
community
of
educators,
some
of
the
best
school
systems
in
the
state.
O
So
we
have
a
tremendous
amount
to
work
with,
but
one
missing
piece
of
the
puzzle
has
been
a
level
of
funding
that
allows
people
to
be
the
visionaries
they're
ready
to
be,
and
if
we're,
nickel
and
diming
this
issue-
and
we
only
hear
requests
for
funding
when
people
are
in
crisis.
That's
not
our
best.
O
Our
children
deserve
our
absolute
best
and
they
deserve
visions
that
stretch
for
decades
and
are
about
longitudinal
success
about
creating
a
community
where
people
can
truly
thrive
and
about
creating
the
conditions
in
a
child's
life
from
the
time
they're
born
through
the
end
of
their
life,
where
they
can
be
their
best
self
and
that's
what
this
proposal
is
about.
It's
about
creating
a
context
where
people
can
be
visionaries
and
kids
can
thrive,
and
when
we
don't
have
to
stop
every
single
conversation
partway
through
and
say,
we
could
do
that
if
only
the
funding
were
there.
O
It's
about
Buncombe,
County,
stepping
up
and
I
think
that
what
we
see
in
other
communities
and
I
think
it
will
be
true
here-
is
that
early
investment
and
early
public
investment
attracts
other
funding.
It
attracts
foundation
funding,
it
attracts
private
investment
funding
because
they're,
not
the
first
ones
in,
and
they
see
a
permanent
commitment
to
children
in
our
community
and
folks.
Who've
been
watching
this
issue
and
who
know
the
economics:
are
there,
but
haven't
been
sure
whether
their
dollars
will
be
wisely
invested,
start
to
see
an
investment
context
that
makes
a
whole
lot
more
sense.
O
So,
yes,
it's
going
to
take
private
and
public
funding,
but
we
have
the
opportunity
tonight
and
I
think
we
have
that
responsibility
and
obligation
to
make
the
public
side
of
that
come
first
and
to
do
it
at
a
significant
enough
level
that
the
the
passion
that's
in
our
community
and
the
vision,
that's
in
a
community
and
the
capacity.
That's
in
our
community
can
be
matched
and
can
be
funded
and
there
can
be
the
fuel
to
serve
our
kids
in
the
way
they
deserve.
O
So
I
have
been
tremendously
honored
to
work
with
fellow
commissioners
on
this
issue.
From
the
day
we
were
sworn
in,
especially
Commissioner,
Robert
Pressley,
but
everyone
on
Commission
know
exactly
how
our
vote
will
go.
But,
however,
it
goes.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
keep
supporting
kids
in
our
community
and
I.
Look
forward
to
that
and
I
would
invite
and
encourage
in
a
in
a
respectful
way,
everyone
to
seriously
consider
voting
for
this
proposal.
I
Okay,
I
guess
it's
my
time:
I'm
supportive,
because
I
put
a
motion
up
earlier
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
group
that
knew
what
to
do
it,
but
now
I'm
sitting
there
looking
at
a
room
front
and
a
room
full
of
nonprofits
that
they
just
want
money
where's
the
tax
payers.
You
know
we
got
a
BTEC
right
now.
That's
got
a
big
problem.
You
know
want
to
spend
all
the
money
over
there.
I
Pre,
child
okay,
the
total
number
you
got
eleven
thousand
six
hundred
forty
six
kids
where'd
that
come
from
you
have
21
percent
of
the
kids
food.
They
don't
you
know
they
don't
food
necessity,
high
quality
preschool,
but
we're
looking
at
zero
from
what
I'm
saying
we're
looking
from
zero
to
four
years
old.
That's
not
preschool!
That's
baby
city
plain
and
simple
I
leave.
I
That's
fine,
okay,
but
I
was
born
as
a
North.
I
was
an
orphan
I
know
what
it's
like
to
have
nothing
I
know
what
it's
like
to
go
through
school.
You
know
with
nothing,
but
you
know
physically
go
hey
setup,
your
babysitting
firm
over
there,
so
that
you
can
hire
who
you
want
to
because
their
attorneys
they
can
afford
to
pay
a
little
bit
no
problem,
but
I
see
you
coming
in
here
wanting
Buncombe
County
to
take
3.6
million
dollars
with
a
2%
increase
per
year,
but
I'm
not
going
to
be
forward.
I
I
will
be
forced
some
money,
but
it
won't
be
three
point:
six
million
dollars.
Everybody
wants
something
for
nothing
and
it's
the
taxpayers
money
and
that's
what
the
only
thing
I
walked
in
the
door.
Well,
I
said:
when
I
walked
in
the
door
to
be
a
commissioner
that
it's
the
people's
money,
it
stirs
determined
certain
ways.
You
know
it
goes
back
to
they
BTech.
We
don't
have
the
money.
We
have
a
county
manager.
Now
that's
really
tried
to
give
us
some
guidance.
I
He
says
that
we
don't
have
the
money
you
know
to
basically
keep
covered
in
the
health
care.
We
don't
have
the
money
to
keep
giving
the
suspicious
to
the
schools.
So
now
we're
looking
at
three
point:
six
million
dollars
that
we
don't
have.
So
do
you
think
that
me
I'm
going
to
go?
Ask
the
taxpayer
for
a
penny
in
taxes
to
do
this.
You
know
it
goes
back
to
the
same
thing.
Miss
frost
said
that
her
and
the
other
grandparents
did
this
and
brought
the
granddaughter
up.
She'll
be
17
years
old.
I
I
did
the
same
thing
with
a
grandson
his
29
year
olds.
Yesterday
we
did
the
same
thing
he
was
reading
for
one
school
he's
kind
of
like
you
know
everybody
else.
It's
the
sum
we're
taking
stuff
away
from
the
parents.
The
parents
are
the
ones
that
should
be
teaching
these
kids
a
little
bit
before
they
get
to
school.
As
I
said,
my
mother
died
when
I
was
seven
months
old.
So
my
daddy
tried
to
race
us
me
and
my
brother.
I
It
was
hard
to
go
to
school
in
the
mornings
when
I
was
in
grade
school
810
years
old.
He
died
so
then
I
shifted
around
at
17.
I
went
on
my
own,
but
you
can
make
it
it's
not
always
a
gift
in
life
that
we
give
to
people.
I
appreciate,
what's
happening
out
at
the
schools
at
Reynolds
in
these
schools,
I
appreciate
what
these
kids
are
trying
to
do
to
learn
about
this
I.
I
I
Go
person,
money
from
them,
they'll
be
my
weren't
happy
to
loan
you
some
money
for
a
small
business
you're
going
into
a
small
business,
Buncombe
County
as
long
as
I'm
a
commissioner
I'm
gonna
watch
the
tax
dollars
I'm
not
doing
I,
haven't
done
a
very
good
job,
but
I
am
watching
it.
You
know
I'm
the
one
that
brought
out
what's
going
on
today,
BTech
wanting
to
stoled
every
dime
from
a
BTech.
I
We
don't
have
the
money
and
we
got
to
figure
out
how
to
put
some
money
back
into
it
because
that's
gone
so
you
know
everybody
wants
to
come
up
with
a
great
thing.
We
want
to
come
up
with
a
new
voting
place
for
forty
thousand.
We
want
a
new
attorney
for
thirty
thousand.
Now
we
want
this.
This
is
this
is
getting
past.
Whatever
I
want
to
support
kids,
no
different
than
I
did
with
the
two
hundred
thousand
the
Black
Mountain.
I
That's
supporting
a
group
of
people
that
want
to
do
it
find
me
a
group
not
just
a
group
of
nonprofits
that
have
a
name
that
won't
Lenny
they
come
in
here.
They
give
us
a
thing
we
didn't
have
to
vote
for
that.
I
put
it
for
because
what
they're
done
with
$50,000?
They
did
everything
in
the
world.
So
you
know
if
they
want
to
cut
this
down
to
a
million
dollars
or
something
like
that.
We
could
have
a
decision
in
that,
but
just
trying
to
hit
it
at
3.4
million
with
a
percentage
increase.
I
I
All
this
is
is
something
to
stick
to
taxpayers.
So
if
you're
all
happy
with
that
I'm
fine
with
it,
but
I
can't
look
for
it.
I
can
look
at
it
at
a
million
dollar
deal.
I
can
look
at
it
in
other
ways,
but
this
is
something
that
you
know
it's
a
if,
if
we
do
this,
it's
gonna
work
if
well,
they've.
If
for
years
and
haven't
worked
yet
you
know
looking
at
the
why
what
they're
saying
you
know
the
one
lady
come
in
here
and
she'd
worked
awake
and
Mecklenburgh.
I
This
is
Buncombe
County,
where
7th
were
not
2nd,
1st
largest
in
areas,
you
know
41
41
%.
You
know
it's
a
I
support
the
children
I
want
to
support
the
children,
but
I
want
the
families
to
support
him.
First,
if
you
support
your
children,
my
daughter
supported
her
son.
We
supported
her
son,
we
made
it.
You
know
it's
like
I
said
it's
not
this
world
is
not
a
gift
world.
I
This
county
is
over
a
300
million
dollar
budget
and
when
you
have
to
go
up
on
taxes,
just
because
somebody
feels
like
it's
something
that
they
want
to
do,
I'm
sorry,
I
I
want
to
do
for
the
kids,
but
I
want
to
look
at
the
taxpayer
and
the
same
thing
here,
mister
taxpayer.
This
is
why
we're
doing,
but
we're
going
to
do
it
a
little
at
a
time,
but
this
is
a
full
boat
and
I
will
not
be
voting
for
it
any
way,
shape
or
form.
P
I
appreciate
what
it
is
myself
and
jasmine
18
months
ago
start
talking
about
this.
We
was
new
commissioners
in
listen.
There
is
nobody.
That's
gonna
support
early
child
care
as
much
as
me
when,
if
you
have
two
kids
and
you're
middle-aged-
and
you
have
a
pretty
busy
schedule
you
you
can
afford
to
do
some
things,
but
whenever
you
get
old
like
me
and
you
got
grandkids,
you
look
at
everything
a
little
bit
different
than
I'm
able
to
help
my
grandkids
I'm,
able
to
babysit
I'm,
able
to
teach
them
and
I
understand.
P
P
P
P
I've
got
to
support
this,
but
I
wish
that
we
could
really.
You
know,
look
at
a
process
and
not
jump
in
this
I've
talked
to
seven
or
eight
people
this
week.
That
has
called
me
personally
on
the
telephone
and
I've
asked
him.
If
we
can't
do
it
all,
would
you
be
satisfied,
and
they
said
all
we
want
is
a
commitment
that
you
will
start
helping.
So
in
saying
that
I
want
to
make
a
commitment
that
I
will
start,
but
I
wish.
D
So
since
it's
come
up,
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna,
ask
if
those
that
made
the
motion
would
consider
$1,000,000
you've
heard.
That
said,
it
is
a
very
large
amount.
It
is
a
great
step
I've.
Actually
it's
a
first
step,
I've,
actually
and
and
you
when
you
when
you
look
at
commissioners
up
here,
you
have
to
understand
that
this
board-
and
this
is
a
fourth
configuration
of
boards-
that
I've
been
a
part
of
up
here.
You
have
to
understand
that
this
board
each
of
speak
as
individuals
we
are.
D
We
are
all
different
and
that's
why
these
conversations
end
up
kind
of
the
way
they
are
tonight
is
because
we
also
are
not
afraid
to
have
conversations
among
each
other.
So
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
leave
everything
in
the
resolution
as
it
is,
including
the
increase
of
2%,
but
that
we
change
the
3.6
million
to
1
million
dollars
and
that
we
take
that
step,
and
then
this
will
always
be
changed.
We'll
see
how
this
goes
we'll
see.
You
know
how
the
committee
works
and
I
would
like
to
make
that
suggestion.
D
I
believe
if
you,
if
you
will
do
that
that
tonight
we
can
lock
arms
in
a
7
o
vote
with
a
1
million
dollar
investment
which
has
never
been
done
in
Buncombe.
County
never
been
done
in
Buncombe
County,
and
maybe
we
may
end
up
increasing
it
substantially,
but
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
start
it'll
bring
us
together
because
we
are
together
on
this,
we're
just
different
on
the
execution,
so
I'd
like
to
make
that
suggestion
and
I'm
hopeful
that
you'll
take
it.
O
I'll
start
and
then
we'll
you
know,
I
I
hear
you
Joe
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
support
that.
Based
on
the
vote
we
took
earlier
tonight.
Our
current
your
investment
is
950
thousand
dollars,
which
is
good
and
strong,
but
that's
not
enough
and
a
millions
not
enough
and
frankly,
3.6
million
is
not
enough,
but
3.6
million
is
enough
to
start
moving
the
needle
insignificant
in
systemic
ways.
O
If
we
were
to
fund
this,
if
we
were
to
think
hypothetically
illustratively
of
what
it
means
to
fund
something
at
the
level
three
point,
six
million
dollars
a
year,
that
would
mean
for
the
average
taxpayer
in
Buncombe
County
$25
increase
on
their
tax
bill.
I
have
talked
to
more
people
than
I
can
count
about
this
issue:
Republicans
Democrats
independents,
people
who
don't
vote
and
to
a
person.
People
have
said:
what
will
it
take
to
move
the
needle
on
helping
children
in
crisis
our
community?
The
answer
is
not
nickel
and
diming
it.
O
The
answer
is
not
investments.
Only
when
there's
a
crisis,
the
answer
is
significant
permanent
investments,
so
Joe
I
hear
you
I,
hear
the
spirit
of
it.
I
take
that
spirit
earnestly,
but
I,
every
single,
which
way
I've
looked
at
this
issue.
It
comes
back
to
the
same
conclusion,
which
is
until
there's
a
significant
enough
investment
of
funding.
C
No,
no-
and
you
know
when
you
hear
the
numbers
that
we've
spent
and
maybe
Rachel
can
talk
about.
Well,
you
know
we
know
we
spent
in
this
budget
cycle
almost
a
million
dollars
and
it's
a
band-aid
and
children.
Our
kids
deserve
more
than
a
band-aid,
and
so
as
much
as
I
enjoy
our
votes
of
togetherness
and
locking
arms.
I
can't
accept
that
because
to
me
it
doesn't
show
the
commitment
that
we
hold
in
our
kids.
P
P
C
L
Do
you
want
a
quick
response?
Excuse
me
on
that
question,
commissioner.
For
us
we
have
about
eight
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
currently
allocated
walking
into
the
meeting
this
evening
in
early
childhood,
with
the
hundred
and
twenty
one
thousand
that
was
added
to
bring
the
children
and
friends
investment
up
to
two
hundred
thousand
our
total
budget
for
FY
nineteen
is
roughly
nine
hundred
fifty
one
thousand,
that's
rounded.
So
it's
just
shy
of
a
million
current.
D
M
Well,
I'd,
like
I,
had
something
to
it
might
be
moving
away
from
this
just
a
little
but
I
think
I
can't
sit
here
and
let
this
go
by
my
friend,
Commissioner
fryer
mentioned
nonprofits
and
how
you
come
in
here,
but
I
will
say
this
when
I
look
out
at
the
nonprofits
in
the
audience,
the
people
who
represent
the
nonprofit's
and
I've
worked
with
a
lot
of
you
over
the
years
and
school
board.
Member
and
all
and
most
of
you
that
I
know
pay
taxes.
Just
like
we
do
property
taxes.
I
With
jasmine
one
cent,
wherever
you're
talking
at
five
dollars,
one
cent,
my
fire
tax
was
40
on
my
house,
so
you
know
it's
there's
difference
in
taxes
in
the
1%.
It
could
be
a
lot
more
on
somebody
else's,
but
the
fact
is,
is
you
know,
I
wanted
to
try
to
make
it
to
where
we
did
a
better
step.
This
is
you
know
these
numbers
or
I.
Don't
know
if
they're,
factual
or
fiction.
O
L
D
So
when,
when
I,
when
I'm
speaking
of
a
million
dollars,
I'm
speaking
of
an
additional
million
dollars
is
what
I'm
talking
about
when
I'm,
when
I
made
that
suggestion
that's
an
additional
investment
annually,
additional
million
dollars
now
I,
don't
like
this,
but
I
feel
like
that.
Because
of
the
way
the
conversation
is
going,
I
mean
pushed
into
a
corner.
I
do
not
want
to
not
support
this
I
do
believe
that
we
could
approach
it
differently.
I
D
Million
not
to
vote
for
that,
so
it's
an
additional
million
which
takes
it
to
two
million
dollars.
Are
we
going
to
divide
the
board
I've
talking
about
additional
million?
You
gave
us
that
information
and
told
us.
It
was
nine
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
I'm
talking
about
an
additional
million
you're
1.95
million
dollars.
A
D
A
So
you
know
I,
think
I'll
say
why
I'm
also
not
supportive
I'm,
not
one
of
people
who
made
the
motion,
but
I
think
we
do
have
lots
of
data
showing
this
is
a
significant
investment
and
that's
the
reason
I
don't
want
to
cut
any
of
this
off.
I
want
people
to
be
able
to
say
what
they
think
about
it
until
we're
great
kind
of
everybody's
being
able
to
say
what
they
what
they
want,
but
I
think
we,
you
know
we
have
spent
work
session
after
work
session.
We've
really
I
mean
I.
A
Think
we've
done
a
great
job
as
a
commission,
regardless
of
where
we
all
land
on
this
I
think
people
have
taken
this
issue
seriously.
We've
looked
at
the
data
and
the
data
does
show
that
even
even
a
much
bigger
investment
we
said,
we're
gonna
spend
ten
million
dollars
tonight.
You
know
what
we
know
there
would
it
would
still
not
meet
the
full
need
right
so,
but
I
just
I
think
what
what
Jasmine
said
about
this
is.
It
has
to
be.
If
we're.
A
If
we
are
gonna
move
this
process
forward,
the
investment
needs
to
be
a
significant
enough
increase
that
we
really
do
are
able
to
scale
some
things
up
to
make
a
real
difference.
We
need
to
get
beyond
just
doing
pilot
projects.
You
know
we
need
to
really
offer
meaningfully
greater
services
to
the
to
meet
the
demand
in
the
community
and-
and
we
know
that
even
this
significant
investment
is
far
short
of
what
the
need
is,
but
I
think
it
will
attract
private
sector
investment.
I.
A
Think
the
dogwood
trust
will
absolutely
know
if
that
comes
to
be
in
existence
which
it
looks
like
it's
moving.
Full
steam
ahead
to
do,
I
think
they
could
be
a
significant
partner,
but
if
we're
not
showing
it
is
a
top
priority,
then
it's
it's
hard
for
us
to
go
to
other
community
partners
and
ask
them
to
dig
deep
if
we
have
not
first
done
so
ourself,
you
know
you
know:
we've
looked
at
this
really
hard.
A
We've
had
a
good
process,
but
I
think
the
we
need
to
make
this
commitment
and
and
there's
gonna
be
other
tough.
We
always
have
tough
budget
choices
to
make,
but
we
should.
We
should
make
this
commitment
first
cuz.
It
does
go
to
the
core
of
what
I
think
our
responsibilities
are.
This
amount
of
additional
funding
is
less
than
the
tax
cut
that
we
did
in
our
last
budget,
which
we
did
you
know
and
hey
I
love
to
provide
some
tax
relief
to
people.
A
It's
a
great
thing
to
do,
but
it
is
less
than
that
out
of
meeting
a
couple,
a
couple
of
Commission
meetings
ago,
we
committed,
after
a
pretty
short
discussion
to
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
additional
funding
for
more
police
officers
in
our
schools.
They
do
a
lot
of
good.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
need
to
make
sure
our
public
schools
are
safe
and
we're
giving
a
lot
of
attention
to
that.
You
know
that,
but
that's
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
additional
money
we
spent
you
know
we
spent
about
twenty
minutes
talking
about
it.
A
O
O
AD
AD
AD
O
AD
C
D
P
Wanna
speak
yeah,
I
mean
this.
You
don't
know
how
tough
this
is
on
part
of
the
board
that
we
all
want
to
support
this
yeah
and,
as
just
said,
I'm
not
gonna,
be
put
on
a
box.
I
can
see
where
it
is,
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
support
it.
I
just
wish
that
there
could
be
a
compromise
to
the
1.9
or
the
2
over
a
two-year
period.
This
is
gonna,
be
a
big
burden
on
the
taxpayer.
Right
with
me.
Voting
for
this
because
I'm
not
going
to
be
put
on
record
that
I
do
not.
P
D
So
I
got
I,
got
one
more
thing:
okay
and
and
I
want
to
take
the
position
that
mr.
the
Commissioner
Presley
I
just
took
I
do
believe
we
have
put
forth
a
reasonable
solution
and
a
and
I
go
back
to
her
one
and
what
they're
doing
I,
just
it's
great
I,
want
to
put
more
funding
towards
things
like
that
and
in
going
forward
we
we
have
to.
D
We
have
to
be
able
to
change
our
motion
and
come
together
in
an
agreeable
way.
When
we
put
something
on
the
agenda.
Will
you
put
on
the
agenda
for
discussion
and
for
when
you
come
and
talk,
we
listen
to
everything
that
you
say
and
if
it's
supposed
to
influence
us,
you
know
back
and
forth
that
has
happened
tonight.
It
is
move
the
needle
for
these
commissioners.
We
have
to
be
able
to
do
that
going
forward,
I'm
hopeful
that
we
will
do
that.
D
I
do
recognize
that
people
have
been
contacted
to
come
in
and
speak
tonight
and
I'm
glad
that
you
did
come
in
and
speak
and
you
should
I'm
gonna
encourage
you
to
come
in
before.
If
this
means
something
to
you
you're
around.
Come
in
and
speak
often
bring
more
information
to
the
table
because
we
don't
need
myself
or
commissioners
who
have
a
heart
for
one
thing
coming
in
and
putting
a
resolution
and
not
being
flexible
on
the
dollar
amount.
D
I'm
going
to
vote
for
this
I
am
not
pleased
that
the
Commission
did
not
compromise
on
the
dollar
amount
and
lock
arms
on
the
mission
going
forward.
We're
going
to
have
to
do
that
every
budget
time
we're
going
to
have
to
do
that
and
I'm
hopeful
going
forward.
We'll
do
we'll
do
we'll
do
more
of
that,
but
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion,
but
I
was
hopeful.
That
would
be.
We
would
be
able
to
support
the
alternative.
D
P
D
P
A
D
AE
D
C
C
D
P
A
A
M
C
R
M
A
AB
L
I'm
pausing
for
the
presentation
here
we
go
so
my
name
again
is
Rachel.
Nygaard
and
director
of
strategic
partnerships
is
the
role
that
I
have
and
that's
the
department
within
the
county
that
coordinates.
Community
collaborations
investments
and
engagement
and
justice
collaborations
are
part
of
that
and
I
have
the
privilege
of
standing
at
the
podium
for
celebration.
L
The
comment
that
Commissioner
Peter
are
made
during
the
last
discussion
resonated
with
me.
The
early
investment
early
local
investment
can
attract
outside
investment,
and
so
we're
here
tonight
to
put
before
the
board
two
grants
for
consideration
two
to
make
a
vote
to
accept
the
grant
and
to
budget
those
grant
funds
totaling
2.3
million
dollars
for
our
local
justice
work,
and
this
brings
our
total
justice
collaboration
grant
portfolio
to
more
than
4
million
about
4.1
million.
Z
I
L
As
you
will
remember,
when
you
see
this
slide,
we've
put
it
out
it
before
us
a
lot.
This
this
opportunity
came
our
way
because
of
that
foundation
that
track-record
Buncombe
County
has
been
at
this
work
for
many
years
and
has
portfolio
of
investments
and
programs
really
across
the
spectrum
from
front
end
responses.
L
Those
are
things
like
diversion
and
pre
arrest
programs
all
the
way
through
programs
that
focus
on
re-entry
sort
of
that
life
cycle
of
justice,
involvement,
which
we
know
is
so
tied
to
other
priorities
for
the
county
and
important
to
the
county,
I'm,
taking
a
Moana
moment
of
privilege
to
promote
the
justice
Resource
Center.
This
is
one
of
those
programs.
This
opened
one
year
ago,
so
in
October
of
2017
we
opened
the
doors
and
since
then,
more
than
1,000
people
have
come
through
the
door.
L
1,000
unique
individuals
have
come
through
and
accessed
and
been
connected
to
some
kind
of
service
and
those
kind
of
those
services
are
listed
here.
We
want
to
invite
you
and
the
public
to
attend
our
open
house.
We're
gonna
have
an
open
house,
one
year
anniversary
celebration
on
November
7th,
which
is
a
Wednesday
from
noon
to
2.
Is
that
correct
noon
to
2?
And
so
commissioners,
you
have
received
an
invitation,
and
please
spread
the
word
so
that
our
staff
and
the
people
that
we
serve
in
the
center
can
celebrate
with
you
about
the
good
work.
L
That's
happening
to
set
the
stage.
These
partnerships
are
definitely
data
informed
and
because
the
grant
that
Tiffany
will
talk
about
first,
the
safety
and
justice
challenge
grant
from
the
John
D
and
Catherine
T
MacArthur
Foundation
is
focused
on
jail
and
reduction.
We
remind
ourselves
of
the
jail.
We
have
a
604
bed
facility,
that's
operated
by
the
office
of
the
sheriff
and
most
of
that
population.
L
We've
come
to
you
and
done
work
sessions
and
in
rolled
up
our
sleeves
and
looked
at
data.
The
one
thing
that
I
would
like
to
highlight
related
to
the
data
is
that
we
have
seen
growth,
particularly
in
the
population
of
women
in
the
detention
facility.
Over
the
last
three
years,
and
because
of
the
limited
capacity
to
serve
females
in
the
jail,
that's
one
of
those
things
that
causes
a
real
crunch
in
terms
of
facility
capacity
just
to
provide
service
and
finally,
I
wanted
to
just
remark.
Before
we
passed
it
Tiffany.
L
We
we
worked
with
an
outside
reviewer
of
our
data
as
a
part
of
this
grant
application
process
who
dug
into
the
data
from
our
local
jail
population
and
criminal
justice
court
population
and
also
compared
it
to
what
they
see
nationally
and
there.
This
gives
you
a
sense
of
volume.
Well,
we
have
a
604
bed
facility
over
a
year's
time,
that's
more
than
11,000
releases
from
the
jail.
L
We
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
booked
in
and
booked
out
within
a
short
period
of
time,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who
we
see
over
and
over
again
throughout
the
year.
I
found
this
day
the
statistics
around
nearly
30
percent
having
three
or
more
bookings
over
that
year
and
four
and
five
bookings
you
can
see
represented
on
that
screen
as
well.
C
Before
Tiffany
starts,
I
really
want
to
commend
all
of
you.
I
remember,
I,
think
it
was
that
be
wary
of
17,
chairman
Newman
and
I
met,
and
mr.
Whiteside
met
to
talk
about,
and
then
this
board
collaboratively
said
we
can
do
better
and
you
all
helped
coming
up
with
a
vision
because
we're
great
at
throwing
things
out
saying.
Why
can't
we
do
something
like
the
Family,
Justice
Center,
and
you
all
took
our
crazy
idea
and
made
it
a
reality
and
went
far
beyond
anything.
Anybody
ever
could
have
mentioned.
Thank.
L
The
work
we've
got
a
team
of
staff,
Kim
who's
in
the
room
and
Lee
and
Julie
and
Rashida
other
staff
at
the
county
and
critical
community
partners
who
Tiffany
will
talk
through
in
terms
of
who
participates
in
the
justice
resource,
Advisory
Council,
but
people
really
showing
up
and
having
that
sort
of
locked
arms,
unified
commitment
to
to
rethink
how
we
approach
justice
locally,
which
means
wellness
in
public
safety,
holding
things
that
are
difficult
to
hold
at
the
same
time
and
figuring
out
ways
to
navigate
that.
So
thank
you
for
giving
us
that
chance.
AF
Good
evening,
commissioners,
my
name
is
Tiffany
and
I
chose
justice,
Resource
Coordinator,
so
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
efforts
you
guys
have
put
in
in
the
leadership
into
establishing
the
justice
resource
coordinator
position,
the
center
and
the
Buncombe
County
justice
resource
advisory
council.
We
have
been
at
work
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
making
the
wishes
and
visions
of
your
leadership
come
true
and
our
our
hard
work
has
not
gone
unnoticed
nationally.
AF
We
have
were
awarded
the
safety
and
justice
challenge
because
of
the
work
that
we
put
in
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
plus
Buncombe
County's
leadership
in
diversion
efforts
decades-long.
So
the
safety
and
justice
challenge
is
a
challenge
supported
by
the
John
D
and
Catherine
T
MacArthur
Foundation
they're,
giving
over
a
hundred
million
dollars
to
support
jurisdictions
locally
on
safely,
reducing
their
jail
populations
and
I.
Think
to
or
talk
about
the
rethinking
of
gels
nationally.
AF
We
recognize
that
our
nationally
our
jail
population
has
increased
triple
fold
in
the
past
two
decades,
so
there
are
currently
11
million
people
nationally
admitted
to
our
jails
annually.
That's
about
220
2.2
billion
dollars.
That
goes
into
funding
people
that
are
incarcerated
and,
as
you
know,
and
not
unique
to
us,
but
most
people
in
our
jails
are
held
their
pretrial,
so
they're
awaiting
trial
and
their
case
has
not
been
disposed
of
and
that's
not
unique
to
us,
but
that
is
a
national
trend.
AF
So
how
do
we
safely
reduce
the
jail
population
is
one
of
the
key
strategies
that
are
the
key
focus
to
this
initiative.
Also,
in
America,
most
of
those
pre-trial
are
sitting
there
for
nonviolent
offenses
either
they
have
missed
their
court
appearances
in
the
past
or
they
cannot
bail,
post,
bail
and
bond
out.
AF
This
is
not
unique
to
a
Buncombe
County
again.
This
is
a
national
trend.
So,
with
all
that
work,
we
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done.
We
have
partners
that
come
together
monthly
to
talk
about
how
do
we
get
great
at
creating
a
more
effective
and
efficient
criminal
justice
system,
so
the
Justice
resource,
Advisory
Council,
was
formed
with
your
support.
We
signed
an
MoU
in
January
and
our
partners
include
us:
the
Sheriff's,
Office
pretrial
services
and
ID
bureau.
AF
That's
the
city
and
county
partnership,
looking
at
unique
individuals
in
the
county
and
holding
that
data,
Asheville
Police
Department,
the
office
of
the
district
attorney,
the
public
defender's
office,
as
well
as
somebody
representing
the
local
private
defense
bar
our
chief
district
court
judge,
as
well
as
our
resident.
A
Superior
Court
judge,
a
magistrate
and
clerk
of
court
as
well
as
probation
juvenile
justice,
and
we
also
have,
via
at
our
table,
to
really
understand
those
impacted
by
mental
health
and
substance
abuse.
AF
So
we
meet
monthly,
along
with
the
support
staff
of
County,
to
help
move
these
initiatives
along,
and
we
have
noticed
that
we
have
a
lot
of
great
things
working
well.
One
thing
that
JSA
found
when
we
submitted
our
application
and
our
data
to
get
the
funding
is
that
we
have
a
below
average
incarceration
rate
in
Buncombe
County.
We
also
have
a
track
record
of
leadership,
so
a
lot
of
the
specialty
courts
and
diversion
have
shown
that
our
leaders
are
committed
to
making
a
more
effective
and
efficient
criminal
justice
system.
AF
We
have
a
collaborative
going
currently
with
behavioral
health
providers
to
work
within
the
criminal
justice
system,
because
we
recognize
that
these
systems
institutionally
have
been
siloed,
and
so,
if
we
have
this
de-facto
mental
health
treatment
in
the
jails,
how
do
we
get
these
systems
to
work
more
effectively
together?
We
also
do
a
lot
of
cross
system
work
with
the
Family
Justice
Center
in
deviant
sexual
assault,
housing
and
workforce.
Of
course,
you
all
supporting
us
and
making
sure
that
we're
using
data
to
drive
decisions.
AF
Those
who
are
familiar
to
the
jail
as
whether
other,
as
well
as
other
community
systems,
so
with
that
being
said,
the
MacArthur
Foundation
recognized
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
and
want
to
support
us
and
safely
reducing
our
jail
population.
They've
granted
us
1.75
million
dollars,
plus
leveraging
technical
assistance
from
their
partners
to
effectively
reduce
our
jail
population
over
the
next
two
years,
and
so
they
want
to
put
an
emphasis
on
protecting
public
safety
and
strengthening
wellness.
So
what
can
we
do
to
effectively
manage
our
jail
population
and
safely
reduce
it?
AF
So,
with
the
help
of
the
Justice
resource,
Advisory
Council,
the
staff
did
not
come
up
with
these
ideas
for
how
to
do
it,
but
essentially
the
ideas
from
our
local
leaders
and
we
want
to
at
first
deflect
an
arrest
at
booking.
So
what
does
that
mean?
Our
jails
are
often
the
contact.
The
first
contact
people
have
with
entering
into
the
criminal
justice
system.
Law
enforcement
is
their
first
contact,
but
the
jail
is
where
people
start
really
entering
into
the
system,
and
so
how
do
we
start
deflecting
safely?
AF
Can
we
provide
law
enforcement
with
another
another
option
when
someone's
having
a
crisis
in
the
community?
How
do
we
safely
divert
people
into
treatment
and
not
into
jails
so
making
sure
that
behavior
whole
systems
are
coordinating
and
that
we
can
reinforce
treatment
as
opposed
to
incarceration
someone?
AF
How
do
we
make
enhance
pretrial
services
I
believe
they
have
about
600
people
are
in
supervision
at
any
given
time
and
I'm
looking
at
came
to
fact-check
and
so
how
to
ensure
that
her
resources
are
being
utilized
effectively
and
that
she's
supervising
goals
on
pretrial
release
in
a
safe
manner.
And
then
how
do
we
move
cases
along
I
know?
Rachel
talked
about
the
Lindt
that
someone
stays
and
we're
waiting
for
the
courts
to
get
disposed
of.
AF
So
how
do
we
ensure
resources
to
our
court
partners
such
as
the
DA's
office,
prosecution
and
the
jail
in
general,
to
move
cases
along
the
system,
a
lot
faster
to
process
people
and
get
their
case
disposed
of
and
timely
manner,
and
then
I
think
one
thing
that
MacArthur
we
recognized
as
well
as
MacArthur,
is
that,
regardless
of
strategies
that
we
implement,
we
do
have
one
to
address
racial
and
ethnic
disparities.
Our
data
is
not
unique
or
the
disparities
that
exist
in
our
county
is
not
unique
to
to
us.
AF
This
is
a
national
problem,
and
so
how
do
we
look
at
our
data
and
our
strategies
and
ensure
that
we're
not
adversely
putting
more
disparities
with
those
who
are
a
racial
and
other
racial
and
ethnic
descent?
And
how
do
we
ensure
that
the
community
is
engaged
that
we
talked
to
people
have
lived
experience
and
they
can
give
us
that
lens.
AF
Courts
will
want
to
get
stable
and
have
a
desire
for
recovery,
but
they
don't
have
a
stable
and
supportive
environment
to
do
that,
and
so
that
would
be
some
of
what
the
funds
will
be
used
to
is
to
ensure
supportive
housing.
So
people
can
be
in
recovery
while
working
to
get
their
case
disposed
of
these
treatment.
Courts
are
voluntary,
so
people
are
signing
up
because
they
want
to
engage
and
they
want
a
lifestyle
of
recovery
and
not
recidivism
back
into
our
criminal
justice
system.
AF
A
You
that
was
a
great
presentation
all
right,
the
commissioners
a
in
miss
Hockaday.
Can
we
do
a
motion
to
accept
the
grants
and
a
budget
amendment
in
the
single
motion
for
for
each
of
these
two
items.
So
two
motions,
but
one
is
to
do
a
budget
like
like,
for
example.
First,
it
would
be
to
accept
the
budget
amendment
for
the
safety
and
justice
chattin
to
accept
the
grant
and
the
associated
budget
amendment
for
the
safety
and
justice
challenge.
Grant.
Yes,
did
someone
make
that
motion.
C
A
AE
Good
evening,
my
name
is
nicole
Johnson
and
I'm,
a
regional
organizer
with
southerners
on
new
ground.
We
have
a
regional
demand
across
the
south
in
the
system
of
money
bill
right
now
we
are
making
interventions
in
Atlanta,
Nashville,
Durham
and
Birmingham.
Over
the
past
12
months,
we've
bailed
out
a
hundred
and
thirty
black
mothers
across
the
south.
They
were
sitting
in
local
jails
because
they
could
not
afford
their
bill.
AE
AE
These
are
a
lot
of
times.
People
will
have
bleeding
hearts
and
a
bleeding
heart
without
a
political
analysis
is
very
dangerous,
because
what
it
does
is.
It
continues
to
recreate
the
systems
that
are
precious
but
column
by
a
different
name,
and
so
my
ask
is
that
y'all
start
talking
about
how
to
actually
in
the
money
system
in
Buncombe,
County
and
jasmine.
AE
AD
AE
A
AG
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
Allen
Lewis
I
live
in
Henderson
County,
but
I'm
a
community
organizer
in
the
mountains
of
North,
Carolina
and
I've
come
just
to
share
my
piece.
Please
excuse
I'm,
not
super
great
public
speaker,
but
I
actually
know
some
of
you
on
stage.
So
it's
good
to
see
some
familiar
faces
and
I
hope
that
our
relationships
and
your
trust,
in
my
analysis,
that
I've
been
building
for
a
while.
My
political
analysis
is
heard
today.
AG
AG
They
prove
themselves
in
2016
after
the
killing
of
Jerry
Williams,
and
they
continue
to
prove
themselves
as
brutalization
from
the
police
happened
that
we
that
are
documented
and
undocumented
that
we
hear
about
or
that
we
don't
hear
about
right.
So,
like
the
recent
fertilization
that
happened
down
the
street
I.
AG
Don't
trust
the
prisons
to
keep
us
safe
from
criminals
and
I
know
that
they're
not
going
to
be
that
are
my
people
are
not
going
to
be
safer
in
a
cage,
so
this
jail
should
not
be
the
only
pathway
to
support
folks
to
receive
mental
health
services.
If
they
have
substance
needs,
this
jail
should
not
be
replicating
a
house
for
someone.
It
should
not
be
replicating
the
three
meals
that
they
deserve
every
day,
so
the
role
of
the
police
and
that's
not
the
role
of
the
police
or
actual
Detention
Center.
AG
The
solutions
are
in
our
community
and
the
funding
needs
to
be
more
given
to
the
community
away
from
pretrial
detention.
That
doesn't
mean
that
we
let
people
out
on
ankle
monitors
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
let
people
out
and
call
ice
on
them
instead.
Folks,
who
have
needs
that
we
should
folks
have
needs
to
come
to
the
gel
that
we
actually
need
to
be
asking
about
instead
of
criminalizing
them
from
the
beginning
asking.
What
do
you
need?
You
need
a
ride
to
come
back
to
court.
Do
you
need
childcare
to
come
back
to
court?
AG
If
you
need
a
bus
ticket
to
get
back
to
court
and
not
being
stuck
in
a
cage
because
that
causes
the
second
it
cage,
could
loop
put
your
housing
at
risk?
You
could
lose
your
job
just
from
missing
one
day
of
work.
You
can't
even
call
out
I
can't
even
call
out
of
work,
so
I
know
that
one
day
in
jail
is
devastating
for
a
community.
AG
You
could
put
your
kids
at
risk,
could
put
your
housing
at
risk,
your
jobs
at
risk,
and
so
the
ask
is
really
for
you
all
as
county
commissioners,
to
find
the
folks
who
are
working
with
this
project
to
bring
the
vision
of
community
members
all
across
Moulton
County
in
the
mountains,
who
believe
in
a
vision
of
a
world
without
police
and
prisons.
Ok,.
A
O
I
just
like
to
take
a
moment
to
reiterate:
what's
been
said
and
and
and
commending
staff
who've
worked
hard
on
this
and
the
vision
and
collaboration
behind
it
and
the
really
significant
opportunity
it
represents
in
our
to
move
the
needle
on
another
significant
issue
in
our
community.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
leadership
and
I
hope.
You'll
relate
to
the
many
team
members
and
collaborators
the
level
of
appreciation
for
that
work.
R
A
Whether
something
like
this
would
happen,
but
I
think
it
is,
you
know
it
is.
You
know,
I'm
sure
these
were
very
competitive
processes.
This
is
a
major
issue
that
communities
across
the
country
are
all
focusing
more
attention
on
and
what
you
know.
What
can
we
do
to
address
this
at
the
local
level
and
other
levels
as
well?
A
So
it
is
a
it's
a
great
testimony
to
the
to
the
work
of
the
county
staff
and
to
all
of
these
great
community
partners,
because
in
many
ways
the
county
itself
is
not
an
erect
role
to
make
these
changes,
but
by
working
with
public
defender
district
attorney
sheriff's
office,
many
Morgan
many
other
organizations,
the
we
can
do
a
lot
together
so
anyway.
Thank
you
all
for
what
you're
doing
it's,
it's
a
really
encouraging
and
we
look
forward
to
to
building
on
it
all
in
favor.
Please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
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A
All
in
favor
of
David
Thomson,
please
say
aye
hi,
guys,
alright.
Alright,
we
now
come
to
public
comment.
Any
members
of
public
wish
to
comment
all
right.
Seeing
none
I
have
a
couple
of
quick
announcements
on
November
20th
at
5
p.m.
the
county
commissioners
will
hold
a
regular
meeting
at
200
College
Street
room
three
to
six
here
in
downtown
Asheville
on
December
4th.
The
county
commissioners
will
have
a
regular
meeting
at
200
College
Street
room
three
to
six
in
downtown
Asheville.
It's
their
motion
to
adjourn
all
in
favor.
Please
say:
aye
all
right.
We're
adjourned.