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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (April 20, 2021)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for April 20, 2021. To view the meeting agenda, or future meeting agendas, please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
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A
B
A
To
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner,
is
there
an
agenda?
Is
there?
Is
there
an
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
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A
C
A
Any
opposed
I
wanted
to
just
let
the
public
know
that
commissioner
presley
recently
underwent
a
minor
medical
procedure
which
he's
doing
just
fine
from,
but
that's
the
reason
for
his
absence
at
the
meeting
tonight.
So
we
wish
him
a
speedy
recovery
all
right.
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D
D
And
whereas
these
therapy
animal
teams
make
countless
visits
per
year
in
settings
such
as
hospitals,
nursing
homes,
schools
and
hospice,
and
whereas
these
therapy
animal
teams
interact
with
a
variety
of
people
in
our
community,
including
veterans,
seniors
patients,
students
facing
literacy
challenges
and
those
approaching
end
of
life,
and
whereas
these
exceptional
therapy,
animals,
who
partner
with
their
human
companions,
bring
comfort
and
healing
to
those
in
need.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
board
of
commissioners
of
buncombe
county
as
follows.
D
That
april
30th
2020
be
proclaimed
as
national
therapy
animal
day
that
this
board
publicly
salutes
the
service
of
therapy
animals
teams
in
our
community
and
in
communities
across
the
nation
that
this
proclamation
be
effective
upon.
Its
adoption,
proclaimed
and
approved
this
20th
day
of
april
2021,
and
it
is
signed
by
commission
chairman,
brownie
newman.
E
E
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
for
kid's
sake
and
all
the
other
pet,
our
teams
across
the
country
do
so
without
charge.
E
Our
teams
are
not
compensated
in
any
fashion,
but
I
still
have
to
tell
you
having
been
doing
this
for
almost
20
years,
that
it
is
the
highest
paying
non-paying
job
in
the
world,
and
so
thank
you
for
taking
time
out
of
your
busy
schedule
to
recognize
that
appreciate.
It.
A
F
A
Do
all
right!
Thank
you,
commissioner
edwards,
and
we
now
come
to
public
comment
and
we
have
a
a
lot
of
folks
who've
signed
up
for
public
comment
this
evening.
I
wanted
to
share
a
couple
of
pieces
of
information
with
the
folks
who
have
signed
up,
so
we
are
going
to
take
the
commission's
policies.
We
will
take
public
comment
for
up
to
one
hour
at
our
meeting.
A
Folks,
who
have
called
in
may
address
any
item
that
is
on
the
county
commission
agenda
for
this
evening
or
any
topic
that
they
wish
to
share
their
thoughts
with
the
commissioners
on
this
evening.
We
will
not
take
any
additional
public
comment
as
we
go
through
our
agenda
this
evening.
So
now
is
the
opportunity
for
folks
to
comment
on
any
items
that
are
on
the
agenda
or
any
other
community
concerns
that
they
wish
to
bring
to
the
commission.
A
Due
to
the
large
number
of
folks
who
have
signed
up
to
comment,
provide
public
comment
to
the
board.
Tonight
we
are
going
to
ask
each
person
to
please
limit
their
comments
to
two
minutes
so
that
we
can
hear
from
as
many
people
as
possible
during
the
one
hour
up
to
one
hour
period
of
time.
We
have
for
public
comments
and,
if
folks
can,
can
keep
their
comments
to
less
than
two
minutes.
A
A
We
recognize
that
there
there
are
agenda
items
on
our
com
that
for
consideration
this
evening,
that
their
people
have
very
strong
views
about
from
a
wide
range
of
perspectives
in
the
community,
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to
have
a
chance
to
listen,
and
we
respect
everyone's
right
to
call
in
and
share
their
perspective,
as
long
as
folks
will
keep
their
comments,
civil
and
speaking
to
the
issues
that
are
under
consideration
by
the
board.
All
right
with
that,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
our
public
comment
period.
G
G
G
G
H
All
right,
chair
newman
commissioners,
my
name
is
peyton
o'connor,
my
pronouns.
Are
they
them?
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
buncombe
county,
a
combat
veteran,
a
13-year
county
employee,
a
father
of
five
and
a
trans
person.
My
journey
towards
self-realization
and
understanding
has
been
entrenched
in
internalized,
homophobia
and
transphobia.
When
I
first
read
the
book
stock
versus
clayton
county
decision
and
its
implications.
H
For
me,
as
a
trans
person,
I
understood
that
I
could
finally
be
honest
about
my
identity,
because
I
at
least
had
some
protections
from
employment
discrimination
and
could
do
so
without
endangering
my
ability
to
feed
my
family.
Not
everyone
in
our
community
has
had
the
same
intersections
of
privilege
that
have
allowed
me
to
experience
the
security
I
have
in
my
own
life.
This
ordinance
is
an
important
extension
of
basic
civil
rights
to
some
of
the
most
historically
marginalized
groups
in
our
society.
H
While
many
attempt
to
raise
the
absence
of
complaints
as
validation,
I
would
counter
the
absence
of
these
protections
that
force
our
neighbors
to
swallow
the
discrimination
to
help
them
and
turn
and
internalize
the
pain
of
being
othered
by
their
community.
This
ordinance
reflects
the
values
of
the
buncombe
county,
where
I've
chosen
to
raise
my
kids.
H
It
represents
the
values
of
a
country
that
I
have
fought
to
protect
and
it
shows
our
children
that
we
care
enough
about
our
community
to
make
equity
and
inclusion,
something
that
is
meaningful
enough
for
us
to
have
codified
into
our
laws.
It
takes
a
step
toward
allowing
us
to
become
a
community
that
allows
our
citizens
to
feel
safe,
living
as
their
full
selves
and
buncombe
county,
but
can
become
a
leader
in
human
dignity
and
respect
that
we
afford
our
citizens.
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
of
this
matter.
G
I
Hi,
my
name
is
shannon
o'connor
and
I'm
here
today
in
support
of
the
non-discrimination
ordinance.
I
am
a
cisgender
white
woman
and
have
lived
in
buncombe
county
for
16
years,
I'm
a
family
nurse
practitioner,
a
mom
to
five
kids
and
a
wife
of
a
trans
person.
The
non-discrimination
ordinances
is
not
based
on
some
fringe
causes,
as
some
opponents
think.
I
know
that
even
in
our
own
idyllic
liberal,
mountain
town,
racism,
transphobia
and
homophobia
are
alive
and
well.
I
I
want
nothing
more
to
say
that
this
ordinance
is
not
needed.
That
would
be
an
incredible
milestone
for
equality,
but
that
is
not
where
we
are
at.
We
need
to
ask
ourselves
who
we
are
as
a
who
are
we
as
a
community
and
what
is
the
message
that
we
want
to
send?
Do
we
stand
up
for
folks
that
are
marginalized
and
discriminated
against,
or
do
we
have
to,
or
do
we
minimize
their
experience
and
question
its
existence
because
we
haven't
experienced
that
discrimination
or
witnessed
it
directly?
I
The
burden
is
not
on
trans
folks
or
folks,
with
natural
hair
or
first
generation
americans
to
prove
to
us
that
discrimination
is
a
thing.
The
burden
is
on
the
community
and
the
people
in
power
to
believe
them
and
put
protections
in
place.
This
is
especially
important
for
our
youth.
I
want
the
youth
in
our
county
lgbtq
youth
of
color
to
grow
up
in
a
county
where
they
see
a
future
for
themselves.
I
They
can
see
themselves
holding
positions
of
leadership
in
power
and
guiding
our
future
exactly
how
they
as
they
are,
as
their
trans
selves,
their
beautiful
brown
cells
with
natural
hair,
and
I
know
that
the
adults
who
are
in
power
and
know
that
the
adults
who
are
in
power
see
them
and
want
to
protect
them
for
businesses
who
feel
that
this
will
be
a
burden
to
them.
My
suggestion
would
be
just
don't
discriminate,
don't
discriminate
against
someone
for
their
natural
hair
or
their
identity.
Don't
make
comments
about
someone's
body
and
at
any
cost.
I
G
I'm
not
seeing
tina
so
we'll
go
back
to
joy,
joy.
You
are
our
next
speaker.
G
G
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
speaker:
allison
scott
is
our
next
speaker,
allison
scott.
You
are
our
next
speaker.
J
J
J
I've
heard
some
people
in
the
last
few
weeks
who
come
out
and
they've
said
in
opposition
that
they
don't
think
this
bill
is
needed.
This
ordinance
is
needed.
They
want
to
hear
the
kinds
of
discrimination
that
go
on.
They
even
want
to
conduct
surveys
to
see
if
we
meet
some
kind
of
threshold
like
there's
ever
enough
to
justify
it.
J
J
The
fact
is,
if
you
want
to
hear
why
we
need
this
ordinance,
listen
to
the
people
that
oppose
it,
they're
telling
you
why
we
need
it
they're
telling
you
how
often
it
goes
on
and
it
happens
all
the
time
they
don't
feel
comfortable
with
trans
and
gay
people.
They
want
to
be
able
to
hire
fire
and
serve
people
who
they're
comfortable
with,
and
that's
not
fair,
and
that
tells
you
everything
you
need
to
know
about
why
this
ordinance
is
needed.
J
K
And
I
am
unmuted.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
commissioners.
I'm
here
to
speak
to
the
proposed
ndo.
My
name
is
david
perry.
I
moved
to
asheville
just
under
two
years
ago,
after
a
35
year,
career
in
federal
service,
16
years
on
the
staff
of
the
north
carolina,
congressman
and
19,
with
u.s
small
business
administration
in
georgia,
helping
entrepreneurs
start
and
grow
businesses,
I'm
also
a
63
year
old,
gay
man
who
was
outed
before
age
20.
K
K
That's
why
I
believe
is
incumbent,
in
fact,
a
moral
imperative
that
fair-minded
and
progressive
elected
bodies
like
the
malcolm
county
commission,
take
this
bold
and
absolute
stand
to
promote
and
protect
the
interests
of
all
its
citizens
and
adopt
this
non-discrimination
ordinance.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
L
L
M
M
Despite
my
legal
name,
change
being
completed
to
my
dead
name
before,
I
opened
an
account
with
them
before
working
as
a
chief
judge
for
buncombe
county
election
services
on
election
day,
I
was
advised
that
I
could
not
wear
a
pronoun
pin
to
avoid
the
appearance
of
partisan
politics.
Pronouns
are
not
political
they're.
A
simple
statement
of
who
I
am
I've
also
had
people
in
professional
settings
explicitly
refused
to
use
my
name
or
pronouns,
as
if
who
I
am
is
up
to
them.
M
We've
learned
that
to
avoid
negative
experiences,
we
need
to
carefully
manage
how
we
present
in
public
and
avoid
places
that
are
unsafe.
I
urge
the
county
commissioners
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
resolution
to
send
a
message
that
hiding
who
we
are
is
not
necessary
for
equal
treatment
within
bunken
county.
Thank
you.
G
N
Good
evening,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
having
this
conversation,
I'm
here
today
in
support
of
the
non-discrimination
ordinance.
My
name
is
adrian
para.
I
use
the
he
and
she
pronouns
and
I'm
a
non-binary
individual
living
in
nashville
in
buncombe
county.
N
I
part
of
my
job,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
youth
outright
we're
a
support
and
advocacy
organization
for
lgbtqia
youth.
Simply
my
job
would
not
exist
if
there
was
not
a
problem
with
discrimination
against
queer
folks,
so
I
think
there-
and
one
is
a
big
point,
but
but
really
here
today,
I
want
to
uplift
the
experiences
of
the
young
folks
in
our
community,
and
so
I
have
quotes
from
three
different
local
sixth
graders
that
I'm
going
to
read
to
you.
N
I
am
lesbian
and
gender
fluid
people
that
are
queer
are
getting
discriminated
against,
and
it
makes
me
frustrated
that
so
many
people
are
getting
hurt
or
hurting
themselves
as
a
queer
person.
I
am
sad
to
think
that
people
think
that
we
are
bad
or
mean
more
and
more
people
die
to
suicide
each
year,
and
part
of
that
group
is
queer.
People
who
could
not
deal
with
the
stress
of
constant
violence
and
hatred
towards
the
queer
community,
we
definitely
need
to
stop
letting
people
try
and
take
away
our
rights
and
most
people
do
not
know.
N
I
am
lesbian
and
if
I
tell
people
they
will
treat
me
differently
and
be
mean
to
me
our
second
sixth
grader
says
we
have
lots
of
issues
in
this
world
and,
if
I'm
being
honest,
it
makes
me
so
sad
that
we
and
the
new
children
of
this
country
have
to
grow
up
in
this
world,
where
they
can't
be
openly
who
they
are
every
day.
I
feel
like
I,
wake
up
and
people
have
been
killed
or
lgbtq
people
are
being
discriminated
against
and
someone
is
trying
to
take
away
our
rights.
N
We
need
to
stop
this,
please
because,
if
I
feel
like,
I
can't
be
open
and
I
feel
like
it's
not
safe
to
go
outside,
I'm
recognizing
that
I'm
running
out
of
time
to
share
this
last
quote,
but
I
I
urge
the
county
commission
to
vote
yes
on
the
non-discrimination
ordinance
tonight.
G
O
G
O
Have
two
minutes
hi,
my
name
is
jim
fulton,
I'm
an
art
in
north
carolina
and
I'd
like
to
know
what
consideration
was
given
to
my
mother's
right
to
use
a
public
restroom
without
the
possibility
of
someone
with
a
penis
walking
in
on
her
I'd,
also
like
to
know
what
will
be
done
to
protect
my
daughter's
right
to
take
a
shower
at
the
y
after
exercising
or
swimming
I'd
like
to
know
how
it
makes
sense
at
this
time
to
impose
these
new
requirements
on
small
businesses
that
are
still
struggling
to
recover
from
lockdowns.
O
I'd
like
to
know
how
many
citizens
of
buncombe
county
have
reported
credible
instances
of
types
of
of
the
types
of
discrimination
addressed
by
this
proposed
anti-discrimination
ordinance,
and
do
those
numbers
demand
county
government
action
at
this
time
I
I
came
out
as
a
gay
man
roughly
30
years
ago
in
charlotte,
I
walked
through
the
streets
of
charlotte.
O
I
protested,
I
organized
with
other
other
gay
and
transgender
and
lesbian
organizations.
I've
been,
I
worked
for
a
major
bank
in
charlotte.
O
G
P
Q
Q
I
would
like
to
share
with
the
commissioners
a
project
that
I
am
currently
filming
here.
In
my
studio
where
there
are
30
local
lgbtq
of
all
sizes
shapes
every
every
person
walking
into
my
studio
is
different.
Q
The
project
that
I'm
I'm
currently
working
on
is
called
strength
and
pride,
and
every
person
who
sits
in
my
chair
has
a
story
of
discrimination.
Every
single
one.
Q
I
have
sat
here
through
the
first
eight
sessions
and
cried
with
each
and
every
one
of
them
for
the
experiences
that
they've
gone
through
and
the
discrimination
that
they've
gone
through,
and
I
have
seen
them
come
alive
when
they
feel
like
they
can
own
who
they
are
and
be
authentically
themselves.
But
then
they
walk
out
my
door
and
they
text
me
or
email
me
and
just
say
I
wish
I
could
be
like
this
all
the
time.
Q
This
is
not
an
ordinance
just
to
say
that
asheville
is
accepting.
This
is
an
ordinance
to
set
an
example
for
the
rest
of
the
country
that
this
is
not
okay.
The
discrimination
is
not
okay.
Discrimination
against
the
lgbtq
community
is
not
okay
and
that
these
people
deserve
to
live
their
lives
without
going
through
these
experiences.
P
Hi
thanks,
my
name
is
al
and
I
live
and
work
in
buncombe,
county
and
as
of
january
last
year.
I'm
raising
two
kids
here
too,
and
I'm
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
the
non-degree
discrimination
ordinance
because
it
matters
it
matters
to
me
and
it
matters
to
my
family.
P
R
R
I
want
you
to
go
to
osha.gov
wording.
The
wording
in
your
ordinance
is
hairstyle
of
any
or
long
hair.
When
you
get
to
osha.gov,
I
want
you
to
keyword,
search,
long,
hair
you'll
find
that
there
are
113
incident
reports
involving
long
or
facial
hair,
with
three
out
of
the
first
five
reports
being
fatalities.
R
You
can't
stop
that,
but
you
can
reword
this
ordinance.
This
is
not
about
discrimination
anymore.
You,
the
commissioners,
have
made
this
about
the
safety
of
our
people
in
the
workplace
and
in
buncombe
county,
because
I've
witnessed
males
guarding
the
women's
bathroom
door
in
multiple
occasions,
and
we
all
know
why
they're
guarding
that
door,
please
change
the
wording
to
this
ordinance.
S
Hi
there
I'm
adam
pulaski,
I
use
h
m
pronouns
and
I
live
here
in
buncombe
county,
I'm
here
today
to
speak
in
strong
support
of
the
ordinance.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
no
one
should
face
discrimination
because
of
who
they
are,
but
too
often
people
are
harassed
or
turned
away
or
excluded
because
of
their
race,
their
sexual
orientation,
their
gender
identity
or
the
other
identity
markers
that
are
covered
by
this
ordinance.
I
talk
to
lgbt
people
every
single
day
and
I
listen
to
stories
all
the
time
and
some
of
them
are
just
horrific.
S
I
don't
rent
to
your
kind.
I've
talked
to
lgbt
people,
who've
been
turned
away
by
tax
preparers
and
by
landscapers
and
by
event,
venues
and
by
cab
drivers
just
every
day,
public
spaces
in
our
life.
S
A
relatively
recent
buncombe
county
resident
when
I
moved
here
last
summer,
a
friend
told
me
I
needed
to
be
careful.
This
was
the
state
that
passed
hp2,
obviously,
and
in
my
first
few
months
here,
a
car
full
of
men
shouted
an
anti-gay
slur
at
me.
S
So
I
urge
you
to
pass
this
ordinance
today
to
address
those
fears
to
do
the
right
thing
for
queer
young
people
for
people
who
are
harassed
because
of
their
race,
their
sexual
orientation,
their
gender
identity,
but
their
religion,
and
this
is
our
chance
to
join
hundreds
of
other
cities
that
already
have
inclusive
ordinances.
S
I
hope
you
passed
this
ordinance,
because
I
want
to
be
able
to
tell
my
friends
who
warned
me
about
moving
down
here,
that
actually
my
county
is
great
and
inclusive
and
that
my
government
really
has
my
back.
So
I
urge
you
to
vote
yes
and
thank
you
so
much
for
considering
this.
G
Our
next
speaker
is
michael
condell.
I'm
sorry,
michael,
are
you
on
the
call.
G
T
Chairman
newman
and
commissioners,
I
ask
you
to
vote
no
to
the
ordinance
prohibiting
discrimination
in
employment
and
public
accommodations
over
the
past
five
six
weeks.
This
has
come
to
light
in
my
understanding,
and
I
submitted
many
questions
that
I
really
wasn't
looking
for
honest
answers,
but
my
experience
has
been
that
I,
those
answers,
aren't
forthcoming.
T
T
One
basic
question:
how
much
will
implementation
of
this
ordinance
cost
the
county?
What
the
answer
we
got?
We
don't
know
we
don't
know.
Do
the
commissioners
not
require
a
financial
impact
for
every
ordinance
considered
when
citizen
asked
citizens
asked
other
solid
questions
such
as?
When
do
the
fines
begin?
What
happens
if
one
person's
word
against
another?
Again,
we
don't
know
we'll
pass
the
ordinance
and
then
figure
that
out
what
is
the
real
reason
for
this
ordinance?
T
I
see
no
coherent
reason
why
this
is
being
placed
on
the
citizens
of
buncombe
county
when
a
multitude
of
anti-discrimination
laws
are
on
the
books,
but
in
the
meantime
I
have
two
suggestions:
will
you,
as
commissioners
agree
to
chip
in
a
thousand
dollars
each
to
fund?
This
ordinance
show
your
goodwill
to
the
taxpayers
of
buncombe
county,
especially
during
this
covid
fiasco.
T
B
Thank
you,
commissioners,
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I'm
ken
brain,
I'm
a
volunteer
with
the
sharer
club
and
I
live
in
lester,
and
I
want
to
urge
you
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
non-discrimination
ordinance.
B
U
All
right
well
since
we're
discussing
discrimination
here,
I
would
like
to
point
the
fact
or
point
out
the
fact
that
I
have
been
discriminated
against
for
a
year
and
a
half.
Now,
since
we
have
started
these,
you
know
anti
or
these
discriminatory
against
people
who
cannot
wear
a
mask.
I
choose
to
not
wear
a
mask
because
I
have
medical
exemptions.
I
also
have
religious
reasons
as
to
where
I
why
I
do
not
wear
a
mask.
U
If
we
all
know
what
the
civil
rights
act
1964
is,
we
know
that
discriminating
against
anyone
for
the
religious
reasons
for
their
skin
color
for
their
race.
Any
of
that
is
wrong,
and
I
do
agree
with
that,
which
is
a
big
reason
why
we
have
separate
bathrooms
right.
We
have
like
you,
can
do
a
non-binary
bathroom.
You
know
if
you
want
to
do
that
or
you
can
do
a
single
bathroom,
but
but
doing
it
to
where
just
anybody
can
go
in,
especially
with
pedophilia
running
in
the
way
it
is
nowadays.
U
I
would
never
let
my
child
go
into
a
bathroom
by
himself
or
or
by
herself
at
this
point
in
time,
but
if
we
want
to
talk
about
discrimination,
we
want
to
pass
ordinance
on
discrimination.
How
are
we
not
passing
ordinance
on
the
fact
that
you
are
discriminating
against
people
every
single
day?
I
was
molested
as
a
child.
Do
you
know
what
perpetrators
like
to
do
when
they
molest
you
as
a
child?
U
They
like
to
put
their
hands
over
your
mouth,
so
you
cannot
scream,
so
you
cannot
say
anything,
which
is
why
I
do
not
wear
a
mask,
but
yet
I'm
discriminated
against
all
the
time
in
asheville.
In
fact,
I
moved
here
in
2016
because
I
loved
asheville
so
much
whenever
I
visit
here
in
2013.,
but
yet
I've
been
discriminated
against
many
times.
U
If
you
literally
think
you
want
to
try
and
tell
people
that
they
have
to
get
this
experimental
code
team
vaccine,
I
want
you
to
know
that
will
not
happen
per
the
nuremberg
trials
and
per
the
ada
and
per
the
civil
rights
act
of
1964
and
our
first
amendment
rights.
So
you
will
get
it
right
that
you
swore
an
oath
and
remember
that
remember
that.
G
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
caller
bernice
lynch
bernice
lynch
are
you
on
the
call.
V
As
stated,
I'm
bernice
lynch
and
I've
been
a
resident
of
north
carolina
since
june
of
1984,
and
as
of
january
2020.
I've
been
president
of
swanon
bumpkin
county.
It's
very
important
to
me
to
live
in
a
community
that
focuses
on
helping
all
its
residents,
be
the
best
human
beings
possible
without
fear
of
discrimination
and
language
and
actions.
V
This
ordinance
will
go
a
long
way
towards
showing
that
these
behaviors
are
not
tolerated
in
bunken
county.
As
a
white
person,
I'm
afforded
some
protection
from
discrimination.
I've
not
had
problems
that
many
of
our
residents
have
regarding
housing
and
employment,
but
as
a
member
of
the
lgbtq
community,
I
still
feel
vulnerable.
I
need
the
freedom
to
be
myself
and
this
freedom
to
be
protected.
V
Sometimes
it's
a
simple
mistake:
drive-throughs
check
out
lines
etc,
and
I'm
quick
to
correct
this
person
and
thank
and
think
of
this
as
an
educational
moment,
but
when
someone
has
purposely
expressed
this
as
an
epitaph,
the
person
yelling
at
me
from
their
vehicle,
I
feel
as
if
I'm
standing
on
shaky
ground
with
this
ordinance
stop
this
from
happening.
Perhaps
sometime
in
the
future
as
attitudes
change.
V
G
The
next
caller
is
chelsea
chelsea
kanskar
chelsea
cancer.
Are
you
on
the
call.
W
Hello,
my
name
is
chelsea
and
I've
been
a
resident
of
buncombe
county
for
six
years.
I
would
like
to
express
my
opposition
to
the
adoption
approval
of
this
non-discrimination
ordinance.
The
swordness
essentially
equates
a
person's
choice
like
having
a
certain
hairdo
with
another's
race
or
disability.
W
The
very
thing
this
ordinance
is
supposed
to
uphold
and
undermines,
and
I
find
these
things
incomparable.
The
nature
of
non-discrimination.
Laws
are
to
support
different
groups
of
people
living
alongside
one
another.
However,
this
ordinance
would
abolish
the
rights
of
businesses
to
hire
and
fire
according
to
their
conscience
and
what
they
see
appropriate
for
their
businesses,
as
well
as
impose
implications
on
their
consumers,
like
the
bathrooms
that
other
people
have
brought
up.
W
In
essence,
instead
of
different
groups
of
people
living
together
in
a
community,
this
ordinance
would
force
compliance
and
potentially
penalize
anyone
who
exercises
their
freedoms
of
choice.
It
does
not
allow
for
all
individuals
or
businesses
to
operate
by
their
own
beliefs
and
choices.
This
is
a
violation
of
the
first
amendment
of
the
u.s
constitution,
the
right
to
religion,
speech,
association
and
conscience,
as
well
as
the
constitution
of
north
carolina.
W
This
ordinance
would
create
confusion
and
blur
lines
as
to
what
situations
would
actually
qualify
as
misconduct
or
discrimination,
and
cause
great
ambiguity
as
to
where
and
how
such
laws
apply.
Businesses
may
be
forced
to
close
on
the
basis
of
conscience
or
legality,
thus
hurting
economic
growth
and
diversity
in
our
community.
W
Additionally,
I
really
fear
for
classes
of
people
both
included
and
not
included
in
this
ordinance.
For
example,
permission
of
the
opposite
sex
to
use
either
bathroom
could
create
an
atmosphere
for
unwarranted
sexual
encounters
and
imposes
on
personal
privacy
having
suffered
sexual
misconduct
myself.
I
genuinely
am
concerned
for
the
vulnerability
of
children
and
adults
alike.
W
G
G
G
G
X
X
Z
H
Z
Note
that
it
was
in
2017
several
years
ago
that
buncombe
county
was
one
of
the
first
school
districts
in
the
south
to
pass
a
comprehensive
set
of
gender
support
guidelines
for
their
students.
Nashville
city
schools,
followed
with
a
similar
set
of
guidelines
a
year
later,
and
the
policies
of
those
two
school
districts
are
now
being
used
as
a
model
by
school
districts
across
the
south
policy.
Z
Z
I'm
12
years
old
and
currently
putting
up
with
homophobia.
It's
real,
weird
y'all.
I
hear
a
lot
of
people
say
generic
things
like
it's
unnatural
or
it's
a
phase
or
you're
just
making
that
up
in
doing
research.
I
continually
find
evidence
that
what
me
and
so
many
other
people
are
feeling
is
natural
and
right.
AA
AA
G
G
G
Okay,
our
next
caller
will
be
lynn
mcnamee
to
be
followed
by
lauren.
Beale
lynn.
Are
you
here?
Yes,
thank
you.
Okay,
lynn.
You
have
two
minutes.
AB
I
attended
the
community
conversation
on
april
15th.
The
proposed
ordinance
prohibiting
discrimination
and
employment
and
public
accommodations
during
the
meeting
commissioners
stated
that
there
has
not
been
a
formal
gathering
of
information
to
ascertain
the
extent
of
allegations
of
lgbt
discrimination
in
buncombe
county.
The
commissioners
are
proposing
an
ordinance
based
on
hearsay
and
anecdotal
evidence.
AB
Further,
a
preliminary
budget
has
not
been
developed
that
spells
out
costs
for
the
number
of
equity
officers,
the
cost
of
carrying
out
the
investigations,
the
equity
officers
will
conduct
or
any
other
costs
associated
with
this
ordinance.
What
exactly
will
buncombe
county
taxpayers
be
paying
for?
If
this
ordinance
is
passed?
AB
The
march
16th
ordinance
proposal
does
not
mention
equity
officers.
The
april
6
proposal
does
the
act
stated
in
this
april
6
proposal.
The
equity
officer
shall
have
access
to
premises,
records
documents,
individuals
and
other
possible
sources
of
evidence
to
ascertain
the
factual
basis
of
the
allegations
contained
in
the
complaint.
AB
The
eo
may
examine
record
and
copy
such
materials
and
take
record
and
record
the
testimony
of
statements
of
such
persons
as
reasonably
necessary
for
the
furtherance
of
the
investigation.
I
see
this
as
an
invasion
of
privacy.
Would
like
to
know
if
this
ordinance
has
legal
authority
based
on
this
privacy
issue
until
the
commissioners
can
come
up
with
a
budget
proposal
undocumented
evidence
of
discrimination,
as
described
in
this
ordinance,
as
well
as
the
issue
of
invasion
of
privacy
being
granted
to
the
equity
officers.
AB
G
Okay,
janet
was
able
to
type
in
her
response,
so
I
will
read
this
for
janet
and
it
reads
as
follows:
I
think
the
ordinance
will
result
in
fewer
jobs
for
the
very
special
class
of
people.
This
is
designed
to
protect,
because
employers
will
feel
that
they
could
be
entrapped
by
their
employees.
G
The
next
comment
is
lynn
mcnamee.
Oh,
that
was
just
lyndon.
Mcnamee
lauren
beale
is
our
next
speaker,
lauren.
AC
Thank
you.
My
name
is
lauren
beale
and
I
use
she
hair
pronouns
and
I'm
a
member
of
asheville's
lgbtq
community,
I'm
here
today
in
support
of
lgbtq,
inclusive
non-discrimination.
Ordinance.
Many
north
carolinians
mistakenly
believe
that
lgbtq
people
are
protected
from
discrimination
in
housing,
health
care
and
public
spaces,
but
that
is
not
true.
I
spoke
as
a
county
committee
as
a
function
county
employee
at
the
march
2013
commissioners
meeting
in
support
of
county
employee
domestic
partner
benefits,
which
was
passed.
Thank
you
for
that
eight
years
later.
G
G
AD
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
I
my
name
is
luchay
beagle.
I
can't
figure
out
how
to
start
my
video.
AD
I
am
mentioning
I'd
like
to
come
tonight
to
discuss
the
gosh
I'd
like
you
to
vote
yes
to
the
ordinance
I
use
I've
been
living
in
buncombe
county
for
18
years.
AD
According
to
the
trevor
project,
71
of
lgbtq
youth
report
being
discriminated
against
due
to
their
sexual
orientation
or
gender
identity
and
20
percent
report
being
physically
threatened
or
abused.
These
same
lgbtq
youth
report
more
than
double
the
rate
of
suicide
attempts.
This
ordinance
would
save
lives.
AD
We
know
that
when
teens
are
believed
and
that
they
have
agency
in
their
lives-
and
they
are
supported
these
protectors-
these
are
protective
factors
against
suicidality.
This
non-or
discrimination
ordinance
can
save
lives,
it
can
save
lives.
So
please
tonight
vote
to
save
these
young
people's
lives
and
help
them
thrive
here
in
western
north
carolina
being
a
leader
and
setting
this
precedence.
Thank
you.
AE
Yes,
thank
you,
chairman
newman
and
commissioners.
I
just
moved
to
weaverville
three
months
ago
very
new
and
am
grateful
for
an
opportunity
to
get
to
be
involved
in
local
government.
I
think
it's
so
important
and
I'm
speaking
in
favor
of
this
non-discrimination
ordinance,
we
moved
from
atlanta-
and
I
guess
got
kind
of
spoiled
in
in
terms
of
being
not
having
to
to
worry
about
that
type
of
situation.
AE
But
my
daughter,
our
daughter,
who
is
living
in
los
angeles
right
now,
is
moving
back
east
and
will
be
moving
back
in
with
us
after
college
for
and
we'll
be
looking
for,
job
and
housing
and
so
forth,
and
as
a
member
of
lgbtq
community,
I
I
don't
want
her
to
be
discriminated
against
and
and
have
difficulty
trying
to
find
employment
and
housing
and
so
forth.
I
was
kind
of
surprised
that
buncombe
county
didn't
already
have
this
type
of
ordinance
in
place.
AE
I
consider
them
to
be
very
you
know
kind
of
up-to-date
on
on
things
like
this,
so
I'm
urging
the
commissioners
police
to
pass
this
tonight
and
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
AF
I'm
sorry
thank
you
very
much.
I
had
had
some
very
specific
things
that
I
want
to
talk
about
and
I
had
them
spelled
up
but
out,
but
listening
to
the
speakers
on
the
list
tonight,
I
am
extremely
offended
that
my
mountain
community,
the
place
I
grew
up,
the
place
I
live,
is
being
painted
as
a
hate
phobic
non-caring
community.
We
are
not
that
way.
AF
AF
80
christians
die
every
day
because
they
refuse
to
denounce
their
faith
in
christ
80
on
average
he
goes
beyond
discrimination
and
as
a
christian
professional
in
the
human
services
environment
in
this
town
for
25
years,
I've
been
discriminated
against
because
I'm
a
christian
I've
been
told
you're
too
spiritual.
Even
though
I
make
the
most
money
and
have
the
most
clients
I've
been,
you
know
let
go
for
those
reasons:
western
north
carolina,
the
people
in
the
western
north
carolina
and
in
buncombe
county
they're,
not
haters.
AF
The
natives
are
not
haters,
but
this
this
ordinance
and
it
insists
that
they
drop
their
faith
at
the
door
when
they
walk
into
a
public
establishment
and
as
a
woman,
I'm
offended
by
this
lack
of
respect
for
my
privacy
and
the
work
that
women
have
had
to
do
over
the
past
hundred
years
to
gain
the
respect
that
we
have
sought
so
freely.
So
I
speak
against
this
ordinance
and
I
hope
you
don't
pass
it.
G
Our
next
speaker
is
joe
bowman,
joe
bowman
you're.
Our
next
speaker,
followed
by
gary
mitchell.
AG
Thanks
my
name's
joe
bowman,
everybody,
I'm
an
attorney.
I've
been
an
attorney
in
north
carolina
for
17
years.
I'm
a
cisgendered
man
married
28
years.
I'm
a
christian.
I've
got
two
sons.
I've
got
three
lesbian
roommates
I've
got.
One
of
my
sons
is
genderfluid
when
I
was
14
when
he
was
14
years
old
and
I
was
an
assistant
district
attorney
in
new
hanover
county,
a
deputy
stopped
him
when
he
was
walking
back
from
his
his
boyfriend's
home
and
used.
AG
I
didn't
realize
how
emotional
this
would
be
hearing
everybody
talk
about
all
the
terrible
things
that
are
done
to
people
who
are
a
little
bit
different
because
they're
different.
This
is
about
human
rights.
This
is
about
not
punishing
people
for
personal
characteristics
that
they
cannot
control.
This
is
just
basic
fairness,
and
if
you
talk
to
your
children
and
your
grandchildren,
they
think
this
is
a
good
idea
and
they're
right.
AG
AG
AG
This
is
about
recognizing
people's
basic
human
rights
and
becoming
a
beacon
for
the
south
again,
because
the
new
south
will
be
one
that
includes
everybody
and
that's
where
we
need
to
go,
and
this
will
bring
jobs
to
asheville
to
buncombe
because
of
the
quality
of
life
issue
for
employers
and
employees,
and
we
should
pass
this
ordinance.
AG
G
AH
I'm
here
my
name's
heather
edwards,
I
use
she
are
they
pronouns?
I
am
a
physical
therapist
and
I'm
also
a
sexuality
counselor.
I
myself
am
non-binary
and
also
identify
as
queer,
as
does
my
kiddo
and
I've
had
several
experiences
one.
AH
I
was
working
at
a
healthcare
system
here
locally
and
I
was
in
this
committee
of
people
to
be
able
to
kind
of
do
things
that
made
our
environment
of
work
better
for
both
the
employees
and
for
the
in
for
the
the
patients,
and
the
thing
that
happened
was
that
as
soon
as
I
brought
up
anything
about
transgender
stuff
that
everything
that
you've
been
hearing
tonight,
that
are
the
people
against
it
are
saying
we
don't
discriminate.
AH
You
know
we
don't
discriminate,
we
we
treat
everyone
the
same
and
then
those
would
always
be
followed
with
like
well,
I
treat
everyone
the
same,
but
you
know
those
people,
aren't
they
just
crazy
anyway,
and
you
know-
and
I'm
sitting
here
in
this
room
of
people,
thinking
like
how
not
safe,
I
am
to
talk
about
my
own
experiences
as
well
as
realizing
that
all
of
them
are
employers
right.
They
are
the
supervisors.
AH
So
I
definitely
am
supportive
of
bringing
more
non-discrimination
to
this
area
in
passing
this
ordinance,
because
you
know
these
were
all
people
who,
like
all
that
we've
heard
tonight
that
are
against
it
have,
you
know,
are
like
I'm
a
good
person,
I'm
a
christian,
I'm
doing
all
of
these
things,
and
this
is
not
okay.
This
ordinance
also
supports
everyone
on
the
rights
of
their
their
religion.
So
if
you
were
supportive
of
that,
you
would
support
it.
G
AH
L
L
Yes,
I
think
what
what
concerns
me
is
that
this
whole
thing
was
written
about
hiring,
and
I
want
to
give
you
an
example
of
how
it
could
really
be
very
adverse
to
the
hiring
practices
for
certain
types
of
small
businesses.
Let's
say
that
I'm
the
practice
manager
for
a
small
private
medical
practice
of
five
physicians
and
I
have
to
hire
the
office
staff
and
I
need
to
hire
a
front
desk
receptionist.
L
I
know
from
experience
that
this
person
is
the
face
of
the
practice,
the
first
person
that
patients
see
when
they
come
into
the
waiting
room
and
is
a
really
a
reflection
of
the
practice.
Now
I've
received
an
application
from
three
candidates.
All
of
them
are
qualified
and
let's
assume
that
the
first
candidate
is
a
young
woman
with
a
college
degree.
The
second
is
a
young
man
who
has
applied
to
graduate
school
in
a
couple
of
years
and
the
third
candidate
who,
although
qualified,
has
an
unusual
hairstyle
and
multiple
facial
tattoos
and
piercings.
L
Another
concern
would
be
that
just
merely
having
this
resolution
in
place
may
put
an
undue
amount
of
pressure
on
individuals
who
are
hiring
such
that
hiring
it
that
they
might
have
a
fear
that
not
hiring
that
individual
would
be
subject
to
penalties.
In
that
case,
the
net
result
is,
is
reverse
discrimination
against
those.
G
Perry
martino
is
our
next
speaker
not
hearing
from
perry.
Our
next
speaker
is
daniel
best
daniel.
You
are
our
next
speaker.
You
have
two
minutes.
AI
I
thank
you
good
evening.
Everyone
I'm
daniel
best,
I'm
a
proud,
asheville
resident,
I'm
a
faculty
member
at
western
carolina
university
and
I'm
a
transgender
man.
I
strongly
support
a
vote
in
favor
of
this
ndo.
I
look
forward
to
living
in
a
county
that
supports
equality
for
its
lgbtq
residents.
Thank
you
for
your
vote.
In
favor
of
this
ordinance,
I
will
surrender
the
rest
of
my
time.
G
G
AJ
Minutes,
hi
grant
millen
long
time,
buncombe
resident
and
I'll
send
some
comments
later,
not
tonight,
maybe
later
in
the
week.
I
wanted
to
clarify
that
the
system
times
of
the
last
meeting
said
that
everyone
who
spoke
was
opposed
to
this
non-discrimination
policy.
AJ
That
wasn't
fair
to
me,
because
I
I
didn't.
I
said
that
I
I
am
for
I
am.
I
am
opposed
to
discriminating
against
lgbtq
citizens.
I
stood
in
front
of
law
enforcement
back
in
2004
when
there
was
an
anti-gay
marriage
rally
in
what
is
now
called
pac
square
park
and
just
a
handful,
maybe
not
even
a
dozen
young,
very
unintimidating,
lgbt
folks
just
wanted
to
have
presence
there.
They
weren't
really
loud,
but
our
law
enforcement.
AJ
Just
did
this
terrible
anti-free
speech
thing
against
them
and
you're
talking
more
about
employment
tonight
and
this
policy
there's.
You
know,
republicans
in
congress,
aren't
doing
this.
So
let's
do
it.
What
I
brought
up,
what
I've
brought
up
a
few
times
is
what's
happening
with
persons
with
disabilities,
and
that's
just
that
that
word
that
term
persons
with
disabilities
is
new
for
us.
It's
not
americans
with
disabilities.
It's
based
on
I'm
using
I'm.
AJ
Referring
to
the
un
convention
on
rights
of
persons
with
disabilities,
it's
not
going
to
be
very
familiar
with
folks,
but
it's
time
that
the
disabled
be
included
and
they
are
all
genders
races,
sexual
orientations
and
creeds
and.
AK
G
Grant
your
time
is
up,
our
next
speaker
will
be
lisa
lisa.
Can
we
hear
you?
AL
AL
Do
you
know
what
about
women's
rights?
Do
women
not
matter
anymore?
I
asked
the
panel
to
vote.
No.
I
do
not
think
that
we
need
more
discrimination
laws.
We
already
have
discrimination
laws.
You
know
this
ordinance
goes
too
far.
It
also
feels
like
an
attack
on
our
small
businesses
that
have
already
gone
through
a
lot
this
year.
I
think
it's
it's
an
example
of
government.
AL
You
know
local
government
overreach
and
I
just
you
know,
I'm
gonna
say
what
what
people
are
scared
to
say,
but
this
just
feels
like
local
government
trying
to
appease
the
woke
radical
left
wing
and
it's
wrong
it's
wrong,
because
you
are
now
trampling
on
women's
rights
and
my
daughter,
I
agree
with
the
gentleman
who
spoke
about
just
being
able
to
shower
at
the
y.
My
daughter
deserves
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
gym
and
take
a
shower
without
having
to
worry
about
a
man
coming
in.
You
know
it's
not
it's
not.
AL
I
just
think
we've
lost
sight
of
everybody,
including
women,
deserve
respect
and
and
equality,
and
I
wish
you
know
I.
I
really
wish
the
world
wasn't
the
way
it
is
right
now,
but
I
don't
think
that
this
ordinance
is
needed
and
I
am
really
scared
of
what's
happening
in
the
world,
because
I
feel,
as
a
woman,
that
I
am
now
being
discriminated
against
and
it's
just
not
fair.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
AM
All
right
great,
first
off,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
I
would,
as
the
executive
director
of
the
west
encounter
rescue
ministry
and
we've
been
operating
a
homeless
shelter
here
in
buncombe
county
for
the
last
40
years,
and
I
first
want
to
say
to
my
lgbt
friends
within
within
the
community.
AM
I'm
sorry
as
a
christian
man,
I
don't
want
you
to
feel
feel
any
sort
of
discrimination,
and-
and
I
I
ask
for
your
forgiveness
because
I
think
it
is
it
is-
it
is
important
that
you
hear
someone
especially
a
leader
say
that
I'm
totally
against
anybody
being
discriminated
against,
but
there's
a
part
in
this
ordinance,
the
public
accommodations
piece
that
actually
affects
the
safety
of
of
of
people
at
the
rescue
mission.
AM
If
we
we
require
a
photo
id,
a
state
issue
photo
id
for
someone
to
be
able
to
come
into
the
shelter
we
have
and
that's
how
we
keep
people
safe.
We
have
had.
We
have
had
men
who
couldn't
get
into
our
men's
shelter,
because
we
were
full
tried
to
to
self-identify
to
get
into
the
women's
show.
This
isn't
a
transgender
issue.
We've
always
been
able
to
welcome
and
love
every
transgender
person.
That's
ever
come
to
us.
I
really
beg
you
all
to
consider
changing
that
making
sure
there's
an
exception
in
there
for
for
us.
AM
A
All
right,
I
want
to
thank
all
the
people
who
took
time
to
speak
to
the
commission
tonight
and
we
appreciate
everyone
doing
that
and
sharing
their.
You
know
sharing
their
perspective
on
the
issues
that
are
coming
before
us
and
facing
our
community
and-
and
I
apologize
that
there's
some
folks
who
we
took
over.
We
took
over
an
hour
of
public
comment
and
I
know
there
were.
A
There
were
some
folks
who
were
still
on
the
list,
so
I
regret
that
we
weren't
able
to
get
to
everyone,
but
I
appreciate
everyone
who
spoke
and
some
who
spoke
and
gave
up
their
time.
So
more
people
could
could
have
a
chance
to
speak
tonight.
A
Anybody
can,
of
course,
always
always
reach
the
county.
Commission.
Our
email
addresses
are
on
the
county
website
as
well
as
phone
number,
so
we
also
encourage
folks
to
reach
out
to
the
commission
over
the
phone
or
over
our
email
addresses
as
well
all
right.
We
have
a
need
for
a
closed
session
michael
fruit.
Could
you
speak
to
the
purpose
of
the
closed
session.
AN
Yes,
sir,
yes,
sir,
pursuant
to
general
statute,
143
318
and
11
a
three
need
a
motion
to
go
into
closed
session
to
discuss
a
matter
with
attorneys
to
preserve
the
attorney-client
privilege.
This
is
in
the
matter
of
buncombe
county
versus
frost
in
green,
which
is
buncombe
county
file.
Number
19,
cvs,
5208.
A
Is
there
a
motion
to
go
into
closed
session
so
moved
all
right?
There's
a
motion
and
second,
to
go
into
closed
session
to
hear
from
an
attorney
about
the
legal
matter
that
county
attorney
michael
fried
just
referenced
and
as
he
mentioned,
the
county
commission
may
also
choose
to
come
back
into
open
session
to
hear
from
an
attorney
to
speak,
to
those
same
issues
with
the
potential
for
taking
making
some
decisions
around
that
legal
case
at
our
meeting
tonight.
A
A
A
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
Commissioners,
I'd
like
to
request
that
we
add
a
new
item
to
our
agenda,
which
will
be
consideration
of
a
legal
settlement
we
need
to,
since
this
was
not
on
our
pre-published
agenda.
That
we'll
need
to
do
this
by
consensus,
to
add
it
to
the
agenda.
We
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
that
we
might
be
taking
this
up
and
is
there
a
motion
to
add
consideration
of
a
legal
settlement
to
the
agenda
for
this
meeting.
AO
A
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
any
post
all
right.
I'd
like
to
ask
philip
anderson
to
address
the
board
in
the
case
that
mr
freud
referenced
earlier,
a
civil
suit
between
a
county
and
former
commissioner
alan
frost.
AP
A
AP
That
suit
was
filed
in
2019
after
the
passage
of
time
and
negotiations
with
the
attorneys
for
ellen
frost
judge
payne
and
the
mrs
frost
attorneys
have
agreed
upon
a
number
for
the
settlement
of
the
claims
against
ms
frost
in
that
action
and
in
that
action
alone
for
the
sum
of
175
000,
subject
to
the
approval
of
the
board
of
commissioners.
AP
D
A
All
right
there's
a
motion
in
a
second
any
questions
or
further
discussion.
I
would
just
like
to
make
a
comment,
mr
anderson.
We
appreciate
you
being
here
this
evening,
we're
in
closed
session.
A
We
were
also
able
to
hear
via
phone
from
ron
payne,
who
has
represented
the
county
in
a
lot
of
our
efforts
to
recoup
county
taxpayer,
funds
that
were
misused
in
the
past,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
and
judge
payne
for
all
of
your
work
on
this
case
and
and
working
really
hard
to
make
sure
that
we
recover
all
the
taxpayer
money
that
was
wrongly
used,
and
so
this
is
another
important
step
in
that
effort.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
great
work
in
this
regard.
E
A
A
All
right,
commissioners,
now
we
come
back
to
the
other
items
on
the
agenda
under
presentations,
and
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
present
is
a
presentation
from
the
agricultural
advisory
board
for
farmland,
preservation
and
david
lee.
The
board
chair
is
here
to
speak
with
us.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
AC
E
AQ
Okay,
the
agriculture
advisory
board
is
made
up
of
myself
david
lee,
I'm
from
candler
bruce
nelson
is
the
vice
chair,
bruce
is
from
leicester,
ed
bullock
is
from
arden,
brandon
hensley
is
from
the
alexander
community,
lorient
mcintyre
is
from
swannanoa,
annie,
perkinson
is
from
fairview,
and
gary
roberts
is
from
jupiter
and
terry
wells.
Our
commissioner,
with
us
today
is
from
sandy
mush
the
the
ordinance
used
to
require.
We
have
a
wide
dispersal
of
members.
AQ
The
purpose
of
of
the
agricultural
advisory
board
is
to
promote
agricultural
values
and
the
general
welfare,
a
bunk
and
the
general
welfare
of
buncombe
county.
I
like
to
say
that
we
that
we're
the
champions
of
agricultural
and
buncombe
county.
AQ
I
think
people
come
to
buncombe
county
to
see
those
pastoral
views
that
agriculture
provides
for
the
people
that
are
coming
into
our
into
our
community,
and
I
think
that
that,
on
some
occasions
the
the
local
or
the
the
rural
landscapes
are
very
much
a
draw
for
the
people
now
for
a
lot
of
for
a
lot
of
the
local
folks
and
I'll,
give
you
a
couple
of
just
a
couple
of
quick
little
stories.
I
know
a
lot
of
times
on
saturday
afternoon.
AQ
If
you
live
out
on
newfound
is
not
nearly
as
quiet
as
it
used
to
be
because
of
the
number
of
motorcycles
that
come
by
people
are
out
riding
they're
out
touring
they
want
to.
They
want
to
see
those
views,
the
other.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
say
is
because
of
our
mutual
involvement
in
the
dairy
industry.
AQ
I've
had
a
conversation
with
the
late,
mr
george
cecil
here
several
years
ago,
and
he
mentioned
when
we
were
talking
about
different
parts
of
the
county,
and
he
said
that
that
one
of
his
he
and
his
wife's
most
favorite
rides
was
to
go
out.
40
to
exit
33,
go
up,
beaver
down,
beaver
dam
over
willow,
creek
out
through
sandy
mush
and
back
through
leicester.
So
not
only
does
do
the
tourists
enjoy
those
views.
AQ
AQ
Some
of
the
programs
that
we
that
we
support
the
farmland
preservation
program
is
the
program
where
we
accept
donated
easements,
as
well
as
easements,
where
people
provide
are
provided
some
partial
funding
for
the
easements
that
they
that
they
sell
or
that
they
donate
those
easements
are
sometimes
held
by
the
count,
the
buncombe
county,
soil
and
water
conservation.
They
are
sometimes
held
by
a
local
conservation
organization
as
well.
AQ
The
member
farmland
preservation
district.
We
offer
a
voluntary
agricultural
district.
We
also
have
an
advance,
an
enhanced
voluntary
agricultural
district,
where
local
landowners
can
can
receive
certain
protections
for
their
property
in
in
exchange
for
some
for,
for
a
temporary
and
voluntary
agreement,
not
to
develop
property.
The
farm
heritage
trail
is
a
program.
AQ
It's
a
tourism
program
that
is
in
encouraging
tourism.
It's
currently
in
the
northwestern
part
of
the
county.
However,
the
developers
of
this
program,
we
are
now
trying
to
get
we're
looking
at
funding
to
increase
that
to
a
county-wide
program
a
lot
of
times
at
our
meetings,
some
of
the
folks
from
other
other
parts
of
the
county
are
kind
of
jealous
of
lester
in
the
northwestern
part
of
the
county,
because
they
have
they
have
this.
This
agritourism
tool,
also
buncombe
county,
is
participating
in
the
visit.
AQ
Nc
farms
program,
which
is
is,
is
an
agritourism
app
that
can
that
will
be
available
to
folks
in
the
very
near
future,
and
then
we
also
have
been
sponsoring
a
quarterly
breakfast,
the
friend
the
buncombe
county
friends
of
agriculture,
breakfast,
where
we
we
get
together.
We
have
some
fellowship
and
then
we
also
have
a
speaker
talk
about
a
relevant
something
relevant
to.
AQ
AQ
These
are
both
easements,
where
people
have
received
some
compensation
through
either
donated
or
grant
funds
or
easements,
where
families
have
donated
their
property
into
the
conservation
easement
and
they
receive
no
money
out
of
pocket
other
than
than
the
transaction
costs
required
to
do
that.
That's
2777
acres,
that
is
under
perpetual
under
a
perpetual
conservation
easement.
These
are
primarily
in
the
northwestern
part
of
the
county
and
the
southeastern
part
of
the
county,
I'll
say
sandy
mush,
broad
river
or
where
the
majority
of
these
farms
are.
AQ
We've
raised
over
4
million
in
grant
funding
through
the
north
carolina
farmland,
preservation,
trust
fund
and
also
the
the
federal
program,
which
is
the
conservation
easement
program,
and
then
we've
also
raised
over
or
as
a
match
to
that
over
11
million
dollars
in
charitable
contributions
or
in-kind
donations,
primarily
the
value
of
that
real
estate
donated
into
the
easement
over
the
over
the
term.
Since
2005.
AQ
AQ
We
have
287
farms,
totaling
20,
708
acres,
I
believe
that's
either
either
the
first
or
the
we're
the
first
or
second
in
the
state
of
north
carolina
with
that
number
and
in
the
enhanced
voluntary
agricultural
district
program
we
have
14
farms,
totaling
1867
acres,
most
of
those
people
are,
are
full-time
farmers
or
commercial,
commercial,
sized
farms,
a
little
larger
tracts
of
land,
so
on
proactive
planning
to
a
grant
to
address
the
goals
that
are
stated
in
the
buncombe
county
strategic
plan,
we're
we're
looking
at
at
you
know
at
some
of
these.
AQ
AQ
AQ
AQ
We
could
do
more
of
these
with
with
with
more
money
and
more
people,
and
we
could
get
more
done
as
as
much
as
time
has
gone
on
through
the
through
the
north
carolina
farmland,
preservation,
trust,
the
the
number
of
grant
opportunities
that
we
have
are
are
getting
less
and
less
or
there
are
more
total
numbers
of
grants
which,
which
kind
of
limits
our
abilities
to
raise
funds
there.
AQ
AQ
We
can.
We
can
look
at
getting
more
pro,
more
property,
conserved
and
right
now
we're
the
commissioners
appropriate.
Two
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
per
year
to
the
ag
and
half
of
that
goes
to
the
ag
advisory
board
and
then
a
half
goes
to
the
land
conservation
advisory
board
and-
and
we
are,
we
would
really
appreciate
you
know
seeing
those
numbers
go
up
so
that
we
could
we
could
look
at
preserving
more
land
and
trying
to
to
enhance
the
the
characteristics
that
rural
property
brings
to
buncombe
county.
So
that's
my.
That
concludes
my
prepared
presentation.
A
Great
david,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation.
I
know
we're
going
to
hear
next
in
just
a
moment
from
greg
hutchins
from
the
land
conservation
advisory
board.
But
are
there
any
questions
for
david
well,
who
got
him
with
us.
A
All
right,
greg
hutchins
come
on
up
and
we'd
love
to
hear
from
your
report
from
the
land
conservation
advisory
board,
thanks
for
being
here,
thanks
for
your
service
on
the
board,
great.
AR
Thank
you,
chair
newman
and
commissioners,
thanks
for
having
us
here
as
brother
sister
kind
of
organizations,
I'm
checking
the
remote
to
make
sure
david
didn't
sabotage,
something
as
siblings.
Sometimes
do
he's
he's
got
a
great
sense
of
humor.
I
just
didn't
want
it
to
be
at
my
expense.
Tonight
I
wanted
to
bring
you
greetings
from
your
appointed
land
conservation
advisory
board.
AR
You
can
see
the
the
members
here
that
you
have
appointed
to
serve
buncombe
county
and
bring
you
recommendations
on
land
conservation,
that
kind
of
fits
inside
our
parameters,
and
I
won't
list
these
people,
but
you
see
some
of
the
knowledge
and
professional
skills
that
are
on
this
board.
That
are
are
very,
very
helpful
for
us
to
actually
do
our
job
and
and
function
well.
AR
Its
purpose
was
to
promote
the
use
of
voluntary
land
conservation
easements,
to
preserve
the
beauty
and
ecology
of
buncombe
county
and
for
the
economic
good
of
the
region,
and,
as
we
all
know,
I
was
born
here.
I've
always
lived
here.
I
have
been
very,
very
fortunate
to
live
in
this
beautiful
environment
that
we
call
asheville
and
buncombe
county
and
one
of
the
things
that's
really
important.
AR
So
some
of
these,
when
there's
an
opportunity
for
conservation
fit
more
easily
within
funding
sources
to
achieve
that
conservation
through
agriculture
and
then
sometimes
they
fit
more
neatly
into
our
bailiwick
and
funding
sources
to
help
preserve
those
there's
a
little
crossover
there,
but
generally
some
differences
in
what
our
focus
is
for.
You
know
kind
of
the
importance
of
why
we
exist
one.
AR
I
think
roughly
12
million
people
a
year
come
to
buncombe
county
as
tourists
they
spend
over
2
billion
dollars
annually
in
our
economy
and
that's
a
lot
of
local
businesses
and
local
residents
who
benefit
from
that
and
part
of
the
reason
they
come
is
again.
We
are
in
one
of
the
most
beautiful
places
that
you
can
ever
be
right,
so
preserving
some
of
the
view
shed
of
what
is
asheville
and
buncombe
county
is
an
important
economic
factor
as
well,
so
one
it
brings
visitors
to
it,
brings
business.
AR
AR
The
last
part
I
think
here
is
we:
are
you
know,
helping
to
do
these
things,
because
we
are
focusing
on
a
strategic
goal
that
you
all
have
set
in
your
20.
I
think
it's.
The
2025
plan
is
to
look
at
preserving
farmland
in
environmentally
sensitive
tracts,
a
couple
of
successes
here
just
to
let
you
know
in
since
2004
we've
done
64
projects
just
through
our
board.
It's
not
counting
what
the
great
work
the
ag
advisory
board
has
done.
AR
Just
our
board
64
projects
about
six
million
dollars,
total
in
county
funds
over
those
16
or
17
years,
and
really
what
we've
been
trying
to
do
is
use
the
county's
money
as
a
way
to
leverage
additional
funding
sources
so
out
of
the
money
that
the
county
has
spent,
there's
at
least
a
six
to
seven
to
ten
x,
multiple
on
other
funding
sources
that
are
matching
or
exceeding
the
funds
the
county
is
putting
into
it,
and
I'm
not
saying
that
to
say
that
we're
doing
too
little.
I
want
you
to
understand
that.
AR
That's
a
really
important
thing
when
you
go
try
to
raise
other
money
that
your
local
government
is
supportive
and
traditionally
you
all
have
been
supporting
transaction
costs
to
help
these
easements
get
in
place
and
the
return
on
that
to
me.
If
you
spend
a
dollar
and
you
get
ten
dollars
from
somebody
else,
that's
a
pretty
good
return
right
in
any
banking
parlance.
That's
pretty
good
right,
mr
white
side,
all
right
a
couple
of
other
things.
You
know
the
funding
here
has
helped
conserve
over
75
000
acres
in
our
county.
AR
AR
Young
pisco
is
out
in
the
harmony
harmony
area
in
inca,
candler,
there's
110,
acre
easement
there,
and
a
lot
of
people
are
familiar
with
the
hickory
nut
gap.
Farm
easements
that
have
been
done.
They've
been
a
bit
of
a
leader
in
some
of
the
farming
community,
along
with
people
in
sandy
mush
and
leicester
and
other
parts
of
the
county.
AR
AR
AR
Easement
purchases
have
not
been
funded
by
the
county
in
appropriate
circumstances.
We
might
bring
you
such
a
project
for
consideration
and
again
finding
additional
funding
partners
would
be
great.
We
appreciate
all
the
financial
assistance
that
we've
gotten
again.
I
think,
as
david
said,
more
money
means
more
results.
AR
We
appreciate
all
of
you
and-
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
recognize
and
thank
a
number
of
your
buncombe
county
residents,
who
voluntarily
impose
restrictions
on
their
property
to
imp,
improve
the
beauty
of
our
place
for
all
of
us,
oftentimes
that
significant
dollar
cost
to
their
families
and
the
generations
that
follow
them.
You
know,
I
do
think
you
know
we,
we
do
have
the
people
to
match
our
mountains.
A
Greg.
Thank
you
so
much
great
presentation,
commissioners,
any
questions
or
or
comments
from
mr
hutchins.
AO
I
had
a
couple
questions
for
greg
or
two
questions
that
are
probably
similar
for
my
benefit
in
the
benefit
of
the
public
that
might
be
watching.
Could
you
just
briefly
with
examples,
explain
the
difference
between
the
ag
advisory
board,
easements
and
land
conservation
advisory
board
easements.
I
see
that
those
two
pots
of
money
are
the
same.
AR
AO
A
Any
other
questions
all
right
well
greg
and
david.
Thank
you
both
for
what
you're
doing
you
know.
As
you
all
know,
the
issues
around
protecting
some
of
the
best
of
what
we
have
in
buncombe
county
in
terms
of
ag
lands
and
natural
areas
is
of
the
most
important
things
I
think
people
in
this
community.
We
hear
that
every
time
we
go
out
and
ask
the
community
what
they
want
to
see
us
try
to
to
expand
our
work
on.
A
This
is
one
of
the
areas
we
hear
loud
and
clear,
so
we're
working
hard
to
identify
some
ways
to
get
some
more
resources
into
these
important.
You
know
these
are
proven
models,
so
I
think
I
think
we've
we're
hearing
the
the
strong
case
that
some
additional
resources
will
help
us
really
expand,
what's
already
very
proven
effective
model.
So
thank
you
so
much
all
right.
Commissioners.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
financial
quarterly
report
and
don
warren.
Our
finance
director
will
present
this.
AK
Item
good
evening,
chair
and
commissioners,
how
you
all
doing
tonight-
good
excellent,
I'm
here
to
give
you
the
third
quarter
financial
report,
so
we're
going
to
cover
the
general
fund,
solid
waste
fund,
revenues
and
expenditures
for
both
so
general
fund.
We
are
at
84
percent
of
budget
right
now,
so
budget
of
347
million
year-to-date
actual
is
292
million
primary
drivers,
for
that
is
property
tax,
as
you
know,
is
due
in
january.
So
we
have
collected.
AK
AK
Other
drivers,
local
option
sales
tax
is
coming
in
better
than
what
we
anticipated,
even
though
there's
that
three
month
lag
we're
still
about
4.7
above
last
year,
so
things
are
looking
good.
One
of
the
down
notes
is
investment
earnings
we're
only
at
2.8
percent
of
budget.
For
that-
and
I
don't
expect
that
to
go
up
too
much
higher,
because
interest
rates
are
so
low
and
they're
going
to
stay
there.
AK
I
should
have
went
to
this
slide.
Sales
and
service
is
only
at
66.1
percent.
That's
federal
prisoners
is
one
of
the
big
drivers
on
that
ambulance
fees
is
on
there,
but
there's
a
delay
in
collection
on
those
as
well,
and
then
collection
fees
are
a
result
of
collecting
the
property
tax
and
that
sort
of
stuff
on
the
expenditure
side
we're
at
66.7
percent
of
budget,
so
we're
231
thousand
or
231
million
right
now.
AK
Expenditures
are
not
a
concern
at
the
point.
At
this
moment.
Everything
is
coming
in
as
we
kind
of
expect
office.
Expenses
obviously
are
down
as
a
result
of
covid
there's
not
as
many
people
in
the
office.
AK
We're
not
spending
as
much
travel
and
training
is
down
for
the
same
reasons,
information
technology
is
down
compared
to
where
it
would
have
expected
it
to
be,
and
some
of
that
is
just
the
timing
on
it
licenses
and
that
sort
of
stuff
debt
service
we're
only
at
18.4
percent
of
budget,
but
the
bulk
of
that
will
be
coming
in
in
may
and
june
when
we
pay
all
those
principal
payments.
So
we
expect
that
to
hit
100
as
usual,
and
then
utilities
are
down
which
we
would
expect
because
of
some
closures.
AK
That's
what
I
like
solid
waste
fund
revenues
worthy
and
that
is
primarily
driven
by-
are
you
laughing
at
me.
AK
AK
121.8
percent
of
what
we
anticipated
for
the
transfer
station
and
at
the
landfill
itself
we're
only
at
36.2
percent,
but
we
are
still
just
crushing
it
on
the
expenditure
side,
we're
only
at
61.8
percent
of
budget
and
basically
it's
just
a
matter
of
they're
not
spent
it's
they're,
just
not
having
a
lot
of
expenditures.
They
haven't
had
a
lot
of
maintenance
costs
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
that's
been
helpful.
A
AS
Just
for
a
briefly,
sir,
last
year
we
received
suggestions
and
requests
from
some
employees
to
consider
adding
a
county
holiday
to
celebrate
juneteenth,
but
due
to
covid,
we
did
not
pursue
that
at
that
time.
So
this
year
our
equity
inclusion
work
group.
They
have
researched
that
idea
and
on
your
may
4th
agenda.
We
will
bring
forward
an
item
as
well
as
a
public
hearing
for
us
to
discuss,
add
in
the
friday
before
the
june
19th
of
every
year
as
a
county
paid
holiday,
so
more
to
come
on.
AS
A
You,
okay,
under
old
business,
we
have
cons
the
introduction
and
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
prohibiting
discrimination
and
unemployment
and
public
accommodations.
I
have
that
quite
right.
Second
reading,
it's
the
second
reading,
not
the
first
reading.
Thank
you.
A
AT
Great
well,
thank
you
and
I'll
make
a
few
introductory
remarks
and
then
turn
things
over
to
commissioner
sloan
and
then
I
think
we'll
turn
things
over
to
county
attorney,
michael
frew,
to
ensure
that
we
go
through
all
the
steps
required
for
the
formal
second
reading.
AT
Great,
so
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
few
moments
to
respond
to
a
range
of
perspectives
that
were
shared
during
public
comment,
but
not
just
during
public
comment,
also
many
months
of
conversation
and
dialogue
with
folks
across
our
community
and
honestly
many
years
of
dialogue
around
the
issues
that
are
captured
in
this
non-discrimination,
ordinance,
which
would
provide
protections
in
the
area
of
private
employment
and
public
accommodations
to
people
based
on
innate
characteristics,
including
natural
hair
style,
sexual
orientation
and
gender
identity,
and
then
a
set
of
characteristics
like
race
and
sex
that
are
protected
under
federal
law.
AT
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
that,
because
I
know
it's
on
the
hearts
and
minds
of
so
many
in
our
community
and
because
it
is
tied
in
both
spirit
and
substance
and
history
into
why
we're
discussing
a
non-discrimination
ordinance
tonight
I
am
a
proud
member
of
the
lgbtq
community
and
and
I'm
a
minister-
and
I
hear
many
many
stories
about
the
discrimination
that
people
experience
we've
heard
tonight.
AT
More
of
those
stories
and
studies
show
that
one
in
three
lgbtq
people,
including
three
and
five
transgender
people,
have
experienced
discrimination
in
the
past
year.
The
myth
that
discrimination
doesn't
exist
simply
isn't
true.
The
myth
that
these
protections
exist
elsewhere
under
state
or
federal
law
is
also
not
true.
AT
None
of
this
is
happening
in
a
vacuum,
as
we
think
about
these
issues.
Specifically,
if
we
were
to
pass
this
we'd
become
the
seventh
community
in
north
carolina
to
pass
a
non-discrimination
ordinance
in
recent
months
with
many
more
currently
discussing
it
at
the
town,
city
and
county
levels
also
happening
right
now
is
the
reality
that
there
are
bills
pending
at
the
state
legislature
that
specifically
target
transgender
youth
for
discrimination.
AT
One
would
ban
their
access
to
the
health
care
they
need
and
create
civil
penalties
for
doctors
who
provide
responsible,
appropriate
health
care
to
transgender
youth.
The
bill
would
mandate
that
teachers
who
are
public
state
employees
report
it
if
a
child
or
youth
is
having
thoughts
about
being
transgender
and
make
a
report
to
the
parents.
AT
Another
bill
would
ban
transgender
kids
from
taking
part
in
school
sports
at
the
middle
and
high
school
levels.
To
say
that
discrimination
against
transgender
people
is
a
myth
is
simply
not
true.
It's
real
in
our
state,
it's
real
in
this
moment.
We
also
know
that
67
percent
of
people
across
north
carolina
support
measures
like
this
non-discrimination
ordinance.
In
fact,
we
saw
that
tonight
with
21
out
of
3
or
with
20
out
of
31
people
who
participate
in
public
public
comment
just
under
67
percent
supporting
this
measure.
AT
What
we
heard
from
our
community
tonight
is
consistent
with
what
years
of
polling
shows
us
about
this.
The
will
of
north
carolina
and
this
issue,
the
chamber
of
commerce,
recently
conducted
a
survey
in
which
80
percent
of
responding
businesses
reported
that
the
implementation
of
this
ndo
would
have
no
impact
on
how
they
do
business.
AT
What
that
tells
us
is
that
the
vast
majority
of
businesses
in
our
community
are
already
adhering
to
the
spirit
and
letter
of
this
I've
heard
from
lgbtq
youth,
the
parents
who
are
raising
them
from
elders
from
workers
and
from
people
of
faith,
saying
we
need
these
protections
policies
like
this
set
standards
in
our
community.
They
reflect
values
and
they
also
have
a
teaching
effect.
AT
One
of
the
people,
one
of
the
groups
that
will
be
impacted
by
that
teaching
effect,
is
lgbtq
youth.
We
heard
the
voices
of
several
12
year
olds
through
public
comments.
Tonight
we
have
the
opportunity
to
help
create
a
community
where
they
can
grow
up,
knowing
that
they'll
have
every
opportunity
to
survive
and
thrive,
and
that's
a
pretty
powerful
opportunity
to
have
as
elected
officials
from
a
process
perspective.
This
is
the
fourth
public
meeting
at
which
we've
discussed
the
ndo.
This
is
our
second
formal
reading
of
the
ordinance
and
we'll
be
voting
on
it
tonight.
AT
If
the
ndo
passes
tonight,
it
would
be
scheduled
to
go
into
effect
july
1st.
There
are
two
reasons
for
this
one
is:
it
creates
a
period
of
time
for
our
community
to
prepare
for
implementation,
including
the
provision
of
trainings
and
resources
for
organizations
and
agencies
and
businesses
to
understand
what
compliance
means
and
how
they
can
assure
their
meeting
that
threshold
level
and
even
exceed
it
if
they
want
to.
AT
It
also
creates
the
time
necessary
for
county
staff
to
develop
the
specific
systems
related
to
reporting
and
enforcement,
and
share
that
information
with
the
community,
so
that
there's
transparency
around
how
this
system
will
work.
This
is
a
new
system,
that's
being
built
at
the
county
level,
and
there
needs
to
be
some
time
and
resources
for
that.
AT
You
talk
to
numerous
local
homeless,
shelters
and
service
providers
that
fully
support
the
ndo
and
are
already
in
compliance
with
it.
I
spoke
with
the
director
of
the
largest
homeless,
shelter
in
chapel
hill,
which
recently
passed
a
non-discrimination
ordinance.
She
expressed
full
support
for
it
and
said
that
did
not
impact
their
ability
to
safely
serve
people
in
any
way.
AT
If
an
organization
in
our
community
is
wondering
if
they
comply
or
feeling
like
it
will
be
difficult
for
them
to
comply,
we
urge
them
to
connect
to
the
resources
and
trainings
that
will
be
available
to
figure
out
specific
strategies
around
how
to
reach
that
threshold.
The
goal
here
is
education
and
providing
resources.
It's
not
that
this
is
a
primarily
punitive
ordinance.
AT
AT
AT
They've
been
a
part
of
our
lives
from
the
very
start,
let
me
say
clearly
especially
to
those
people
who
called
in
and
who
I've
been
in
touch
with
who
oppose
this
ordinance
that
I
extend
love
to
you-
and
I
do
this
because
my
faith
teaches
me
to
do
so.
I've
been
in
dialogue
with
many
of
you,
and
I
will
continue
to
show
up
for
that.
AT
AT
They
certainly
do
I'm
very
proud
to
have
had
the
opportunity
to
work
on
this
after
many
many
many
years
of
organizing
and
advocacy
for
this,
I'm
grateful
to
fellow
commissioners
for
the
dialogue
we've
been
in
the
staff
for
the
dialogue
and
to
many
community
members
who
have
extended
themselves,
whatever
their
views
on
this
issue,
to
express
their
voices
publicly.
I
look
forward
to
the
discussion
ahead
and
the
vote
ahead.
Thank
you
and
I'll
turn
things
over
to
commissioner
sloan.
AO
Thanks
jasmine
just
wanted
to
speak
briefly
about
why.
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
to
pass
this
ordinance
and
and
to
answer
the
question
of
of
why
now,
at
an
earlier
meeting,
I
quoted
the
recent
study
from
the
center
for
american
progress
and
I
believe
commissioner
b
ferraro
just
did
as
well
stating
that
more
than
one
in
three
lgbtq
americans
faced
discrimination
of
some
kind
in
the
past
year.
AO
The
research
remains
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
surveys
to
date,
exploring
the
lives,
attitudes
and
experiences
of
lgbtq
americans,
and
it
tells
us
that
homophobia
and
transphobia
and
discrimination
very
much
exists
and
that
that
fear
among
that
population,
perhaps
more
importantly,
exists,
and
I
want
to
quote
it
further.
The
study
finds
that
many
lgbtq
people
continue
to
face
discrimination
in
their
personal
lives
in
their
workplace
in
the
public
sphere
and
in
their
access
to
critical
health
care.
AO
AO
A
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioners,
ferrara
and
sloan.
Did
you
want
michael
fruit
to
make
some
comments
on
or
walk
us
through.
AT
AN
I'll
do
my
best,
mr
chairman,
commissioners.
Thank
you.
This
is
the
second
reading.
It
was
introduced
in
its
entirety
two
weeks
ago.
Yes,
this
is
the
fourth
dip
at
the
apple,
but
it's
the
second
reading
of
the
completed
ordinance
just
to
walk
through.
We
went
through
this
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
I'll
do
a
brief
session.
Once
again,
it
sounds
like
most
people
are
called
in
for
public
comment
are
pretty
aware
of.
What's
in
here?
AN
What's
not
in
here,
I
don't
think
it'd
be
appropriate
to
try
to
answer
all
the
questions
that
people
had,
but
one
thing
in
particular
did
pop
out
was
the
osha
standard
and
hair.
So
there
is
that's
the
first
exception
I
mean
if
there's
a
if
there's
a
reason
for
an
exception,
if
there's
a
reason
for
a
hair
standard,
if
there's
a
reason
for
any
standard
to
be
in
place
that
might
on
first
blush
appear
to
interfere
with
any
of
these
protected
classes.
Then
yes,
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
an
exception.
AN
So
again,
we're
looking
at
expanding
the
protected
class
to
include
race,
natural
hair
or
hairstyles,
ethnicity,
creed,
color,
sex,
sexual
orientation,
gender
identity
or
expression,
national
origin
or
ancestry,
marital
or
familial
status,
pregnancy,
veteran
status,
religious
belief
or
non-belief,
age
or
disability.
So
the
those
will
be
the
protected
classes.
There's
exceptions
for
employment
if
there's
a
valid
reason,
as
I
just
mentioned,
for
having
some
reason
for
a
hair
standard
or
veteran
standard
or
pregnancy
standard
that
might
come
into
play
at
a
number
of
times.
I
don't
see
how
veteran
standards
would
come
in
place.
AN
Typically
for
employment,
disability
disability
could
a
person
because
of
their
disability
would
not
be
required
to
change
their
conduct
to
conform
with
this
ordinance.
That's
another
exception.
AN
We
have
the
section
for
public
accommodations
discriminations
would
be
prohibited
just
to
make
sure
everyone
knows
what
that
is.
A
public
accommodation
is
defined
as
or
place
of,
public
accommodation,
any
place
facility
store
or
other
establishment
which
supplies
accommodations
goods
or
services
to
the
public
or
which
solicits
or
accept
accepts
the
patronage
of
trade
of
the
public.
AN
The
exceptions
would
be
it
shall
not
apply
to
a
private
club
or
other
establishments,
not
in
fact
open
to
the
public
for
housing
there
wouldn't
be
any
civil
penalty
imposed,
but
the
equity
officer,
which
is
a
position
to
be
appointed
or
designated
by
the
county
manager,
would
help
to
facilitate,
through
the
north
carolina
human
relations
commissions
for
redress
of
such
alleged
discrimination,
and
it's
important
to
look
at
how
discrimination
would
be
investigated.
AN
It's
based
on
reasonable
cause
and
investigation
look
to
see
if
there's
a
preponderance
of
the
evidence,
which
is
evidenced
when
taken
as
a
whole
shows
the
violation
is
more
likely
than
not
to
have
occurred.
So
that
leads
to
the
section
on
reasonable
cause
and
conciliation.
The
idea
here
is
is
not
to
penalize
people
for
violations,
it's
hopefully
to
educate
and
to
find
out
what
might
have
been
wrong.
AN
If
there
is,
if
it's
upheld
and
the
reasonable
cause
is
found
to
exist,
county
manager
could
impose
the
100
civil
penalty.
If
there's
continuing
violations,
each
24-hour
period
could
be
seen
as
a
separate
offense.
AN
It's
my
my
opinion
that
the
way
that
this
ordinance
is
drafted
it
does
provide
for
adequate
due
process
for
all
parties
involved
and
there
there's
no
no
criminal
penalty
would
be
imposed
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions
again.
This
is
a
second
reading
and
I
know
that
we're
missing
one
commission
today
so
as
a
second
reading
on
the
ordinance
that
was
introduced
two
weeks
ago
just
require
a
majority
vote
of
a
quorum
and
we
have
a
quorum
present.
A
AC
A
I'd
just
like
to
make
a
brief
comment:
I'd
like
to
again
just
thank
all
the
members
of
the
public
who
took
the
time
to
call
into
the
county
commission
meeting
this
evening
to
express
their
perspectives
on
this.
I
think,
regardless
of
where
one
falls
on
this
issue,
it's
important
that
we
listen
to
each
other,
no
matter
how
much
we
might
really
disagree
with
the
perspective,
I
think,
there's
you
know.
I
really
support
this
ordinance.
A
I
think
it
will
make
a
difference
in
people's
lives
and
I
think
it'll
make
a
difference
for
the
future
of
our
community,
but
even
for
those
who
who
I
don't,
I
don't
agree
with
about
their
perspective
on
it.
I
think
that
it's
it's
important
that
we
be
talking
to
each
other
about
these
issues,
and
I
hope
this
ordinance
is
a
is
adopted
and
once
it
is.
A
D
I
would
also
like
to
further
echo
that
I
am
so
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
hear
from
buncombe
county
residents
about
their
thoughts
on
this
issue
again,
whether
they
agree
or
disagree
with
my
thoughts
on
it
and
also
to
those
40
so
folks
who
attended
the
luncheon
learn
last
week.
It
really
was
an
incredible
opportunity
to
see
our
democracy
in
action
and
hearing
from
folks
and
having
really
important
conversations.
D
I
think
that
makes
a
strong
and
bold
commitment
to
advancing
equity
and
when
I
think
about
it,
this
ordinance
further
solidifies
that
commitment
to
equity
across
buncombe
county
this
evening.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
clearly
demonstrate
that
we
care
for
respect
and
protect
all
people
all
humans
equitably
and
ensure
individual
rights.
D
I
don't
often
talk
about
my
faith
while
I
sit
here,
but
it
always
guides
me,
it's
always
there.
As
I'm
thinking
about
these
decisions.
My
faith
has
taught
me
that
what
we
do
for
others
is
what
we
do
for
god
and
to
me.
What
I
do
for
god
is
to
love
all
people,
no
matter
our
differences,
our
similarities,
but
loving
people
for
who
they
are
and
where
they
are,
I
believe
in
treating
all
people
all
humans
with
respect,
kindness
and
dignity.
F
F
It
seemed
only
our
families
and
a
few
were
behind
us,
but
it
was
asheville
student
committee
for
racial
equality
and
what
we
did
then
we
changed
asheville,
because
we
had
to
go
to
the
back
of
the
bus.
We
had
to
go
to
the
back
of
restaurants
that
they
would
serve
us.
We
couldn't
even
go
to
the
pac
memorial
live,
but
we
changed
that.
F
F
AU
F
But
I'm
enjoying
this,
but
it's
something
then
I'm
voting
for
the
ordinance,
because
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
and
I
think
of
my
grandsons.
A
Any
other
commissioners
wish
to
speak
before
we
vote
all
right
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
approve
the
ordinance,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you
very
much
for
everyone
who
helped
work
on
crafting
the
ordinance
and
all
of
the
commissioners.
Commissioner,
speak
ferrara
and
sloan
appreciate.
Y'alls,
continue
speaking
towards
this
issue
and
everyone's
everyone's
contributions
to
it.
Okay,
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
under
new
business,
and
the
first
item
is
the
asheville
buncombe
united
for
youth.
AV
AV
AV
I
may
need
to
say
next
one:
okay:
here
we
go
so
this
evening,
your
board,
this
board
of
commissioners,
will
consider
a
vote
to
join
the
partnership
and
authorize
the
county
manager
to
sign
the
asheville
buncombe
united
for
youth
network
partnership
agreement.
The
draft
partnership
agreement
is
in
your
packet.
AV
Opportunity
gap
is
about
the
systemic
conditions
in
our
community
where
children
and
youth
are
raised.
An
achievement
gap
is
about
the
differences
that
show
up
in
testing.
When
we
measure
student
performance
achievement,
gaps
can
be
seen
in
our
local
data
by
race,
by
ethnicity
and
by
economic
advantage,
and
the
most
pronounced
of
these
is
race.
AV
Here's
a
look
at
some
grade
level
proficiency
data
in
asheville
city
schools
and
buncombe
county
schools,
where
we
compare
performance
by
race.
As
of
the
most
recent
data
on
this
chart,
which
is
2018,
we
see
a
33
percentage
point
difference
between
white
and
black
students
at
grade
level
proficiency
in
buncombe,
county
schools
and
for
asheville
city
schools.
That
gap
is
62
percent,
which
is
among
the
worst
in
the
nation.
AV
The
achievement
gap
conversation
is
complicated.
We
know
that
it's
more
than
only
a
conversation
about
race
and
that
other
socioeconomic
factors
come
into
play
and
it's
more
than
about
only
standardized
tests
to
get
a
whole
picture.
We
look
at
other
factors
like
student
growth
and
attendance
and
behavior
and
social
emotional
wellness,
and
it's
critical
to
keep
in
mind
that
other
factors
outside
of
the
school
walls
also
impact
student
learning.
AV
So
why
now,
as
you
saw
on
the
data
charts,
our
achievement
gaps
are
not
new,
but
with
our
renewed
commitment
to
educational
success
and
equity,
our
strategic
plan
demands
that
we
do
better.
Not
all
students
are
leaving
high
school
prepared
with
the
skills
and
experience
for
post-secondary
education
and
or
living
wage
jobs.
AV
AV
The
pandemic
shined
a
light
on
negative
factors
in
our
community
that
we
began
to
see
with
greater
clarity.
The
difference
is
that
not
everyone
has
the
same
access
to
the
basic
supports
that
they
need
to
thrive,
such
as
healthcare
or
food
or
internet
access,
and
the
pandemic
also
shined
a
light
on
something
more
positive.
Our
community
came
together
in
partnership
to
help
one
another
when
we
needed
it
most.
So
it's
in
this
spirit
of
collaboration,
one
bunkum
that
we
hope
to
build
on
with
the
united
for
youth
network.
AV
The
education
gap
is
bet
bigger
than
any
one
sector,
or
any
one
organization
can
address
alone.
So
we
come
together
through
collective
action
to
organize
around
a
common
objective,
which
is:
how
can
we
achieve
an
educated
and
capable
community
where
all
students
succeed
united
way
serves
as
a
backbone
organization
for
this
collaboration?
So
I
now
pass
to
joseph.
AW
Thank
you,
rachel
yeah,
so
rachel
talked
a
little
bit
about
the.
Why
so,
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the?
What
is
the
united
for
youth
network?
So
it's
it's
not
something
new.
This
is
really
the
the
evolution
of
work
that
has
been
in
place
for
over
a
decade
now
formerly
focused
on
just
the
middle
grades.
AW
The
partnership
agreement
before
you
today
was
drafted
first
by
a
cross-sector
team,
then
reviewed
by
over
150
youth
and
representatives
from
schools
and
community
partner
organizations
and
their
feedback
is
what
you
see
in
front
of
you.
They
helped
to
rename
the
network
refine
key
features
of
the
agreement
and
shape
the
language
of
our
new
vision
where
all
children
and
youth
learn
grow
and
thrive
in
a
vibrant,
healthy
and
connected
community.
AW
It
shaped
our
new
mission
to
actively
identify
and
remove
barriers
to
opportunity
and
co-create
solutions
that
support
student
success
and
arguably,
most
importantly,
shaped
our
bold
community
goal
that
by
2035
all
asheville
city
and
buncombe
county
students
graduate
from
high
school
ready
and
fully
prepared
to
pursue
their
goals
and
dreams
and
having
a
goal
is
great
but
making
sure
that
we're
getting.
There
is
even
more
important,
so
rachel
mentioned
earlier.
AU
All
right,
thank
you,
joseph.
So
these
are
a
few
of
the
local,
regional
and
state
initiatives
that
united
for
youth
is
aligned
with.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
working
alongside
and
in
support
of,
align
coalitions
and
not
duplicating
one
another's
work,
particularly
in
areas
of
data.
AU
AA
AU
AV
Each
partner
in
the
network
also
pledges
specific
commitments
that
their
organization
will
take
on
as
part
of
joining
for
buncombe
county.
We
agree
to
participate
in
the
cross-sector
leadership
team.
I
serve
on
this
team,
as
does
commissioner
b
ferrara
and
sheriff
miller.
We
agree
to
participate
in
the
school
and
community
partners
network
and
school-based
resource
teams.
AV
It
was
a
question
before
and
I
want
to
address
it
directly.
This
is
not
a
budget
request
and
there
are
no
costs
that
are
directly
associated
with
joining
the
partnership.
However,
education
is
a
county
focus
area
from
early
learning
to
k-12
education,
support
and
community
college.
The
education
function
represents
about
27
percent
of
our
annual
general
fund
budget
because
of
the
shared
data
and
evaluation
framework,
we'll
have
better
insight
into
the
investments
that
are
most
effective.
AV
D
I
do
have
a
question
I'm
looking
through
here
at
the
partner
commitments
and
it's
youth,
parent,
family
and
community
leadership,
and
I
do
see
that
the
school
systems
are
listed
as
partners.
But
I
I'm
wondering
because
you
are
working
toward
the
achievement
gap.
How
are
you
specifically
working
with
the
schools
through
the
youth
network.
AU
Sure
so,
both
school
districts
are,
you
know,
foundational
sort
of
co-architect
partners
of
united
for
youth,
currently,
specifically
with
some
of
the
regarding
youth
and
family
voice
and
leadership,
at
what
we
refer
to
as
community
schools,
which
we
had
their
six
or
seven
now
across
our
county
cross
sector,
resource
teams
that
meet
monthly,
that
have
youth
voice
parent
voice
and
we're
talking
about
youth
parent
family
voice
on
those
design,
decision-making,
evaluation
teams,
we're
really
targeting
and
reaching
out
to
trying
to
include
students
and
families
who
have
most
been
disconnected
disengaged
from
schools.
AU
For
a
lot
of
the
reasons
that
that
we
know
of
regarding
mistrust
so
trying
to
bridge
those
gaps
of
of
trust
with
students
and
families
engaging
in
parent
leadership
strategies,
co-designing
the
early
warning
and
response
system
and
really
doubling
down
on
some
of
those
equity.
Centered
healing
centered
strategies
like
restorative
practices,
so
both
school
districts
are
around
those
decision
and
design
tables
together
and-
and
everyone,
I
can
say,
is
really
focused
on
doing
a
much
better
job
of
incorporating
youth
voice
and
leadership
around
this
design
and
decision
making
tables.
D
I'm
really
glad
to
hear
that.
I
know
commissioner
whitesides
and
I
served
on
the
asheville
city
schools,
equity
committee
in
the
before
covid
times,
and
there
were.
There
was
a
lot
of
conversation
specifically
around
youth
engagement.
I
know
silsa
principal
cush
has
been
involved
in
the
black
youth
circle.
Conversations
where
you
know
a
lot
of
the
students
are
talking
about
insuring
and
seeing
on
here.
D
It's
important
that
in
the
mental
health
component,
the
counselors
that
they
have
folks
that
look
like
them,
so
I'm
assuming
that
all
of
that
is
in
factored
into
this
as
well.
In
terms
of
listening
to
what
our
students
of
color
are
specifically
saying,.
AU
Yep
specifically
that
program,
the
equity
ambassadors
program
that
was
developed
with
principal
cush
and
the
asheville
c
schools
foundation
is
a
is
a
stellar
example
of
what
we're
talking
about.
Regarding
with
youth
leadership,.
AA
AU
Youth
as
evaluators
of
our
work,
evaluators
of
how
adults
in
our
community,
educators
and
community
partners
together
are
showing
up
for
youth,
and
that
was
what
was
you
know
such
an
important
part
of
drafting
this
partnership
agreement
that
we
included
youth
voice
from
different
sectors
and
regions
of
our
community.
F
F
F
F
He
was
principal
of
all
black
school
there
and
closed
the
achievement
gap
in
five
years,
but
they
were
working
with
the
kids
in
the
schools.
You
know-
and
that's
where
I
have
you
know
we
spend
millions
of
dollars,
but
we
still
get
a
large
achievement
gap
and
asheville
city
schools.
It's
been
the
second,
the
largest
amount
per
pupil
other
than
chapel
hill,
and
they
have
the
achievement
gap.
So
does
chapel
hill
by
the
way,
both.
F
But
that's
where
it's
hard
for
me
to
have
a
lot
of
confidence
in
the
programs
until
you
show
me
how
you're
going
to
hold
everybody
accountable
and
where
are
your
benchmarks
going
to
sit?
You
know,
what's
great
I've
heard
for
years
we're
going
to
close
the
achievement
gap,
darn
it
it's
getting
wider
and
after
the
pandemic
we
don't
know
where
it's
going
to
be.
F
You
know,
we've
been
listening
long
enough,
we've
been
putting
out
millions
of
dollars
and
we're
getting
nowhere,
but
I
think
it's
great
what
you're
doing,
but
let's
make
it
work,
though,
and
I
hope
the
only
way
you're
going.
I
know
the
only
way
you're
going
to
do
it
is
through
accountability
and
you've
got
to
have
benchmarks
every
year,
and
hopefully
these
schools
can
come
up
to
it
and
two.
I
know
it's
a
lot.
You've
got
to
do
in
the
communities
with
families
and
they've
got
to
step
up
to
the
plate.
AU
Yeah,
I
think
one
thing
that's,
you
know
we
said
this.
This
network
had
been
evolving
over
some
time
and
I
think
where
we
got
to
and
what's
different
about
this,
you
know
where
we
are
now
is.
I
think
a
lot
of
good
work
was
having
in
different
pockets
of
the
community
with
different
partners,
a
dynamic
you
know,
teacher
in
a
in
a
classroom
and
a
school
whatever
those
pockets
of
success
may
have
been,
but
we
were
doing
it
perhaps
in
siloed
ways,
sometimes
in
competitive
ways,
as
opposed
to
aligning
and
coming
together.
AU
So
I
think
one
thing
that
we
were
missing
was
this
stake
in
the
ground
before
us
to
stay
together
and
co-create
together
that
bold
community
goal
by?
When
can
we
actually
achieve?
What
can
we
close
these
gaps
and
improve
those
student
level
outcomes
around
college
and
career
readiness
for
all
students?
AU
The
other
thing
we
were
missing:
we
were
working
well
together
we
had
shared
professional
learning
opportunities.
We
had
some
data
and
evaluation.
We
had
this
early
warning
and
response
system,
but
we
didn't
have
this
formal
partnership
agreement
with
folks
signing
on
saying
this
is
what
we're
going
to
bring
to
the
table,
and
this
is
how
we're
going
to
work
together
and
show
up
differently
as
a
group
of
school
and
community
partners
and
then
the
last
thing
which
I
believe
touches
on
a
lot
of
your
points
and
questions
is
a
shared
data
and
evaluation
framework.
AU
So
that
framework
is
is
launching.
It
is
built
in
with
milestones
from
kindergarten
readiness
to
grade
level,
reading
to
ninth
grade
readiness,
graduating
college
and
career
readiness
and
some
of
those
whole
child
social
determinant
indicators
that
joseph
and
rachel
spoke
of.
So
there
is
a
very
robust
data
and
evaluation
framework
in
place,
and
I
love
that
terminology
results
based
accountability,
because
it
is
about
us
only
one
another
accountable
to
the
results,
we're
promising
to
students
and
families
in
our
community.
And
it's
about
us
supporting
each
other
along
the.
AU
AT
Just
a
a
brief
comment
to
thank
you
all
for
the
work
that's
gone
into
this.
I
have
appreciated
getting
to
participate
in
some
of
the
cross
sector
discussions,
but
the
there's
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting
that's
gone
into.
AT
Moving
from
that
more
siloed,
this
aggregated
approach
into
something
this
comprehensive
and
commissioner
white
says
I
I
hear
the
urgency
in
your
voice
and
I've
heard
you
say
something
similar
pretty
much
every
time
that
we
talk
about
something
related
to
the
achievement
and
opportunity
gap,
and
I
think
that
urgency
needs
to
be
part
of
all
of
our
conversations
on
this
topic,
and
I
know
that's
something
that
you
all
feel
keenly.
AT
So
I'm
appreciative
of
I'm
appreciative
of
y'all
bringing
this
forward.
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
vote
to
approve
the
agreement
and
the
county's
participation
as
outlined
here.
Y
A
AU
A
AX
A
Okay,
so
we
need
to
vote
the
first
two
stand
alone.
So
so
jennifer
are
you
going
to
present,
like
a
short,
do
a
short
presentation
on
each
one?
Yes,
we'll.
AA
AX
So
the
first
budget
amendment
before
you
this
evening
is
for
the
general
fund,
our
health
and
human
services.
Public
health
division
has
received
a
notification
of
a
third
allocation
of
agreement,
agenda
funding
in
support
of
continued
efforts,
around
surveillance,
epidemiology
laboratory
capacity,
infection
control
mitigation,
communications,
etc.
AX
The
request
is
to
budget
the
full
amount
in
the
general
fund
for
our
public
health
agreement.
Offen
agreement
agenda
funding
works
on
a
reimbursement
basis.
So,
as
we
determine
eligible
expenditures,
we
submit
those
to
the
state
for
reimbursement.
We
receive
the
revenue,
so
the
agreement-
addenda
notification
additionally
provided
us
with
information
that
this
funding,
if
not
used
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
would
be
eligible
for
continued
use
into
the
fiscal
year
2022
cycle.
A
AX
The
second
budget
amendment
is
really
related
to
our
public
school
average
daily
membership
capital
fund.
This
is
the
fund
in
which
we
expense
our
article
40
m42
revenues
back
out
to
the
schools,
a
reminder
that
the
article,
the
share
of
the
article
in
4042
sales
tax
that
is
outlined
in
statute
is
specifically
directed
to
the
schools
for
capital
use.
This
fund
also
houses
the
north
carolina
education
lottery
projects.
AX
So
for
the
budget
estimate
for
fiscal
year
21,
we
had
estimated
14
million
463
277,
based
on
most
recent
trends
related
to
the
40
and
42
article
sales
tax.
We
are
requesting
to
anticipate
that
to
increase
the
budget
by
3
million
500
000,
due
to
anticipated
additional
revenues
that
we
would
then
share
back
to
the
schools.
A
AX
AX
AX
A
A
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Thank
you
jennifer.
Thank
you
all
right.
The
last
item.
Under
new
businesses,
discussion
about
resolution
and
proclamation
process,
tim
love,
I
think,
he's
gonna.
Oh.
E
AY
But
I
can
get
started
so
I
think
me
and
tim
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
but
a
couple
weeks
ago
this
was
introduced
and
I
think
the
board
was
happy
with
most
of
the
process.
I
think
we
added
a
portion
to
state
that
the
board
would
have
a
approval
process
before
it
actually
becomes
to
the
regular
meeting,
and
I
think
that's
in
if
I
can
look
real
quick,
that
is
in
section
5.0,
and
it
says
that
the
commissioners
may
determine
the
proclamation.
Be
recognized.
AY
Excuse
me,
I'm
sorry
board
of
commissioners
will
review
the
compiled
documents
before
future
regular
meetings
and
any
three
members
of
the
board
may
determine
which
to
acknowledge
during
the
meeting.
So
I
think
that
was
the
only
portion
of
that
that
was
added.
Tim
may
want
to
add
any
additional
information.
C
C
C
Yep,
the
one
thing
I
would
add
you
know
we
took
the
slides,
put
it
into
sort
of
a
process
policy
document
in
consultation
with
mr
frew.
The
there
is
no
requirement
for
a
vote
on
this.
It
can
be
accepted
as
your
policy
this
evening
and
moving
forward.
You
can
change
it
if
you
need
to,
but
no
no
formal
action
is
required
unless
you
have
changes.
A
I
have
maybe
just
a
couple
of
comments.
Questions
on
the
section
5.0
that
references,
the
three
members
of
the
board
says
three
members
of
the
board
may
determine
which
to
acknowledge
so
just
kind
of
clarification
around
what
that
means.
Does
that
mean
three
members
of
the
board?
A
Maybe
us
may
need
their
support
may
be
necessary
in
order
to
place
it
on
a
board
agenda
and
then
and
then
the
full
board
would
take
up
whether
or
not
to
actually
do
it.
So
is
the
three.
The
three
members
is
to
have
it
to
confirm.
At
least
three
members
of
the
board
want
to
have
commission
consideration
of
it
and
then,
of
course
it
would
be
the
commission
that
would
presumably
usually
support
these
things,
but
if
hypothetically,
they
chose
not
to
that'd,
be
the
board
with
deliberation
like
any
other
issue.
AS
Yes,
sir,
and
I
believe
that
is
what
you
asked
us
to
look
at
the
last
time
before
we
were
saying
the
whole
board
would
bring
them
forward
and
we
decided
that
we
would
use
the
language
that
you
currently
have
in
your
policy
to
place
items
on
the
agenda.
Okay,
so
this
is
the
language
that
was
placed
and
I
believe,
lamar
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add.
A
AA
A
I
might
just
suggest
just
maybe
just
looking
at
that
language
to
maybe
clarify
that
a
little
bit
to
say
maybe,
instead
of
three
members
of
the
board
may
determine
which
to
acknowledge
that.
Maybe
three
members
of
the
board
may
need
to
indicate
their
support
the
place
for
further
board
consideration,
or
something
like
that.
Just
to
make
it
clear,
like
three
board
members
can't
by
themselves
make
a
decision
about
hey.
We
support
such
and
such
proclamation.
A
I
like
this
language,
and
I'm
just
and
is
this-
is
this
you
know
when
I
when
we
talked
about
this
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
I
guess
it
was
my
sense.
Maybe
I
didn't
read
it
closely
enough
that
you
know
resolutions
or
proclamations
could
potentially
kind
of
cover
a
wide
range
of
issues,
some
of
which
might
be
you
know
controversial
or
from
time
to
time.
A
The
language
here
says
the
intended
uses
is
to
acknowledge
commendable
community
or
public
service
contributions.
Outstanding
achievements,
as
it
relates
to
academics,
athletics,
community
service
acts
of
leadership
in
valor,
so
this
sounds
more
focused
on
kind
of
recognizing
good
community
contributions
from
people
or
organizations,
as
opposed
to
sort
of
taking
up
debate
around
issues.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
say
that
out
loud,
because
I
guess
it's
a
little
different
and
narrower
than
what
I
was
sort
of
anticipating
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
Personally,
I'm
very,
I
think
this
is
fine.
There's
still
a
way
we
could
potentially
take
up
other
kinds
of
policy
issues,
but
so
anyway,
I
guess
that's
not
a
question,
but
just
an
observation
is.
A
A
A
And
the
first
we
have
three
vacancies
on
the
buncombe
county
planning
board
and
I
think,
if
I
can
just
start
over
on
commissioner
wells
side
and
if
each
commissioner
would
just
indicate
which
three
candidates
they
would
support,
will
do
that
and
whichever
three
candidates
get
the
most
indications
of
support
will
be.
The
ones
will
be
appointed.
A
AY
A
A
There's
more
all
right!
Sorry
about
that
under
juvenile
crime
prevention
council.
B
A
Under
mountain
okay,
under
mount
area,
workforce
development
board
there's
a
recommendation
from
the
actual
chamber
of
commerce
that
we
appoint
christa
flores.
So
there
is
a
issue
with
that:
christa
flores
is
not
a
resident
of
buncombe
county.
I
think
we've
had
a
similar
discussion
about
the
same
board
with
another
applicant
yeah,
and
we
made
a
determination
that
we
won't
apply
our
general.
We
won't
strictly
apply
our
general
standard
for
residency
to
this
board.
F
G
AA
A
Okay
on
april
22nd,
at
1
30
pm,
the
county
commissioners
will
hold
a
budget
work
session
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
on
may
4th
at
3
pm.
The
county
commissioners
will
hold
their
briefing
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
365
in
downtown
asheville
on
may
4th
at
5
pm.
The
commissioners
will
hold
a
regular
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
nashville.