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A
B
Good
afternoon
calling
to
order
the
meeting
of
the
bunker
County
Board
of
Elections
for
Tuesday
December
13
2022.,
it
is
4
32
p.m,
and
thank
you
thank
you
for
filling
the
room
today,
the
love
it
when
community
members
are
here
in
person,
I
hope
all
of
you
have
had
an
opportunity
to
sign
our
attendance
book.
That's
our
official
record
of
attendance
at
these
meetings.
If
you
haven't
signed
it
yet,
I
hope
you'll
do
so
before
you
leave
today.
B
I
understand
that
there
is
no
one
tuned
in
online
at
the
moment,
but
we
do
expect
some
folks
to
to
be
in
eventually
there
is
one
member
of
the
board
online
Glenn
Schultz
is
participating
virtually
today
and
my
wonderful
colleague,
Mr
aceto,
is
here
in
person
along
with
yours.
Truly
Ms
block
will
be
here.
Mr
carpenter
has
a
conflict
this
evening
and
he
will
not
be
able
to
join
us
today.
B
So
without
any
further
ado,
I
feel
a
little
awkward
tackling
minutes
with
just
two
people
in
person
here,
Mr
Cedar.
Do
you
have
an
opportunity
to
review
those
minutes?
I.
B
D
And
yes,
I
can
I'm
sorry,
there's
okay,
yeah
I
did
I
did
get
a
chance
to
review
them
and
they
look
great.
B
All
right,
I'll
tell
you
what
I
just
want
to
wait:
a
couple
of
minutes
for
Ms
block
to
get
here
to
have
at
least
four
members
of
the
board
before
we
we
do
the
minutes,
but
knowing
that
everyone's
had
a
chance
to
review
them,
I
expect
that
process
to
be
pretty
quick
when
news
block
does
arrive.
E
The
sort
is
complete
that
data
has
been
given
to
the
state
board
and
the
state
boards
received
all
the
precinct
sort
data
from
all
100
counties,
so
that
data
should
be
available
sometime
this
week,
if
not
tomorrow,
the
archiving
is
also
nearly
complete.
We've
got
absentee
left
to
do.
We
have
the
box
truck
reserved
for
Friday,
so
we
expect
expect
to
have
all
of
the
election
materials
from
the
general
moved
to
storage
by
the
end
of
the
week,
foreign,
the
budget,
we're
beginning
to
turn
our
eyes
back
to
that.
E
We've
made
a
lot
of
progress
on
that
and
we
will
also
I
assume
be
talking
about
some
things
that
might
have
budget
impact
today.
Out
of
our
meeting
and
I
think
that
it
might
be
prudent
to
have
two
meetings
in
January
to
help
us
with
that
and
I
know.
You
are
planning
on
discussing
what
you,
if
you
want
to
have
standing
meetings
for
2023.
E
on
January
10th,
we're
holding
our
district
meeting.
That's
in
Haywood,
County
and
board
members
are
invited
to
that
one.
That's
at
10,
A.M
and
I'll.
Send
you
all
the
information
for
that
you
can
go
yourself
or
or
carpool
with
us.
If
you
would
like.
E
And
then
I
thought
that
we
could
end
the
office
updates
section
with
Karen
and
Negi
giving
poll
worker
updates
and.
E
So
Maggie
will
give
an
update
on
poll
worker
surveys
for
early
voting
and
then
Karen
will
update
us
on
Election
Day.
A
F
To
all
of
our
workers-
and
so
we
did
this
for
both
Alex
and
Jake
and
early
voting
and
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
over
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
got.
We've
had
some
separate
for
early
voting,
two
separate
surveys.
One
was
for
the
captain
and,
as
you
know,
the
captain
is
kind
of
the
official
judge
during
our
early
voting,
and
so
they
are
the
ones
who
run
the
site
and
are
managing
the
site
for
their
shift.
F
And
then,
of
course,
we
have
the
workers
who
are
there
to
support
they're
almost
in
the
assistant
category,
so
we
sent
it
out
it
just
after
mid
November
and
we'll
start
with
the
captain
survey
out
of
day
24
recipients,
we
had
18
responses
back.
F
F
The
majority
were
veterans,
so
we
we
are
very
fortunate
that
we
have
lots
of
people
that
come
back
year
after
year
to
help
drink
early
voting,
but
we
did
have
29
first
time
serving
captains
and
we're
always
looking
for
great
people
that
had
a
great
communication
skills
that
can
are
willing
to
help
and
manage.
F
F
Some
of
the
survey
results
we.
We
asked
some
general
questions
about
training
did
they
feel
prepared
and
so
I've.
Given
you
some
of
those
stats
and
some
of
those
comments,
we
also
asked
them
about
early
voting
training,
the
regular
training,
in
addition
to
a
regular
training.
We
also
provide
a
captain's,
only
Workshop,
where
those
captains
come
in
and
they
get
more
detailed
training,
and
we
feel
that
that's
very
important,
because
when
you're
there
for
two
and
a
half
weeks,
you
need
to
have
that
extra
information.
F
Extra
support
to
be
able
to
handle
some
of
those
situations,
while
you're
working
and
so
I've.
Given
you
a
summary
of
some
of
those
overview
from
them,
we've
asked
how
they
can
give
us
ideas
for
improving
some
of
our
opening
and
closing
duties,
giving
you
some
of
that
how
to
improve
the
chips,
change
and
so
captains,
you
know,
have
their
own
recommendations
for
that
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
overall
they
did
raid
us,
the
team
performance
I.
Think
overall,
most
people
were
very
happy
with
their
teams.
F
80
percent
said
that
they
were
the
five-star
team.
They
felt
that
94
felt
adequately
staffed.
We
did
experience
some
sites
who
had
illnesses
like
covet
or
the
flu,
and
so
we
did
have
some
absences,
but
for
the
most
part
everyone
was
adequately
staffed.
F
They
did
feel
that
their
team
excelled
in
their
duties
and
would
recommend
being
a
captain,
and
they
did
do
that.
Some
people
recommended
certain
people
to
step
up
to
be
a
captain,
and
so
we
always
take
those
considerations
for
future
elections,
and
then
we
also
do
ask.
Has
anyone
did
underperform?
We
want
to
know
if
there's
anything
that
we
need
to
know
about
particular
workers,
so
that
we
can
learn
from
that
and
see
how
we
can
maybe
improve
for
the
next
time.
F
But
for
the
most
part,
I
think
everyone
was
well
performed
and
did
a
great
job
and
they
were
very
satisfied
with
their
team
makeup,
and
then
we
did
ask
them
overall
support.
How
did
you
feel
overall,
supported
by
us,
the
Board
of
Elections,
with
our
provisional
line,
the
call
center
line,
The
Rovers
that
go
out
and
help
them,
and
overall
we
had
a
94
five-star
rating,
so
we're
very
happy
about
that.
They
were
very
glad.
F
Quick
Service
and
quick
attention
is
some
of
the
first
things
that
they
always
liked
is
that
we
were
able
to
respond
quickly
and
that's
very
helpful
for
them.
But
of
course
they
also
have
some
suggestions
as
well,
and
so
we
definitely
take
all
of
these
suggestions
very
seriously.
There's
always
room
for
improvement.
F
There's
always
ways
to
make
things
better,
and
so
we
will
carefully
review
this
for
for
the
next
time,
so
that
we
can
see
what
we
can
do
better.
We
can't
change
laws,
but
we
can
certainly
change
procedures
and
how
we
do
training
and
things
like
that.
So
we
definitely
want
to
make
those
Improvement
as
we
go
along
and
always
keeping
in
mind
the
next
election
coming
up.
How
can
we?
How
can
we
do
better?
How
can
we
improve?
F
The
second
survey
we
sent
out
was
all
to
100.
We
had
about
166
early
voting
workers
out
of
the
166
66
responded
back.
F
The
makeup
of
our
our
workers
by
party
was
55
was
Democrats,
19
was
Republicans
and
26
was
unaffiliated,
so
I
think
we
could
try
to
do
a
little
better
with
recruitment
there
in
that
aspect
and
that
certainly,
we
will
certainly
try
to
do
that
and
overwhelmingly
majority
of
our
workers
are
returning
workers,
64
were
returning
workers
and
again
it
is
very
doable
for
people
to
do
shifts
for
two
and
a
half
weeks
versus
a
long
14
16
hour
day.
So
it
is
a
lot
easier
to
accommodate
for
that.
F
People
can
certainly
do
that
time
frame,
but
we
did
have
36
percent
new
people
and
again
we're
always
looking
for
new
people
that
are,
you
know,
want
to
help
good
in
customer
service
and
ready
to
learn
new
new
tasks
and
skills,
and
so
we're
always
welcoming
new
folks
overall
folks
at
that
they
have
a
better
understanding
of
how
elections
work
and
how
they
feel
confident
about
the
election
Integrity.
So
that
was
a
good
sign.
F
I'm
glad
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
we
tell
people
if
you
ever
want
to
know
how
it
works
come
work
and
you
will
see
exactly
all
the
text
and
balances
we
have
in
place
and
all
the
things
that
we
do
to
ensure
the
Integrity
of
this
election
and
so
I
think
a
lot
of
the
workers
can
agree
with
that.
F
We
did
ask
about
our
onboarding
experience
with
experience
Staffing.
We
use
a
staffing
agency
that
handles
all
of
our
hiring
payroll
and
it's
a
separate
company,
and
they
have
they
do
all
of
that.
We
did
provide
the
feedback
to
them
directly,
so
they
know
how
they
did.
Overall,
most
of
the
folks
were
coming
back.
Our
cup
have
worked
before,
and
so
it
was
an
easier
process
for
them
to
to
do.
But-
and
so
it
worked
very
well.
F
Spherion
is
very
responsive
and
very
customer
friendly,
and
we
appreciate
that,
how
do
they
write
their
co-workers
and
captains
overall
I
think
most
people
gave
them
a
five-star
81
percent
and
again
some
people
reported
some
things
that
we
could
always
improve
on.
F
We
also
asked
how
would
you
overall
support
again
the
support
you
receive
from
us,
so
that's
elections,
Board
of
Elections
call
center,
The,
Rovers.
All
of
that
and
the
majority
again
gave
us
five
thumbs
up.
76
workers
said
that
they
felt
supported
that
we
showed
up
to
fix
issues
quickly
and
help
with
anything
that
they
needed
and
they
felt
that
that
was
key
throughout
the
entire
process.
It
was
very
supportive
in
that
aspect.
F
We
do
ask
for
additional
comments.
What
what
could
we
have
done
differently
and
some
of
the
things
they
said?
You
know
more
comfortable
chairs.
Some
you
know
repeated
about.
You
know
the
actual
North
Asheville
Library
again,
that
was
we.
That
was
not
an
ideal
location
and
we
certainly
did
not
want
to
end
up
there,
but
that's
where
we
ended
up
and
some
things
that
obviously
we
could
improve
on
and
we'll
certainly
do
that
and
some
of
the
materials
that
we
provide.
F
We
can
certainly
improve
on
some
of
those
for
easier
access
of
important
forms.
We
asked
him
how
why
did
you
choose
to
serve
as
a
poll
worker
and
the
majority
said
they
feel
like
it's
their
civic
duty?
F
The
next
reason.
Why
is
because
they
wanted
they're
interested
in
learning
about
the
process
and
being
a
part
of
that
process?
And
then,
after
that
it
was,
you
know
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
all
the
early
voting
sites
were
adequately
staffed,
and
we
definitely
did
did
that.
And
then
there
are
some
people
that
are
motivated
by
money.
F
We
do
pay
them,
so
that's
there
and
then
a
few
others,
and
then
lastly,
did
they
feel
that
training
and
the
trading
materials
prepare
them
for
working
and
60
said
yes,
34
agreed,
and
there
was
a
few.
That
said,
you
know
that
the
training
could
have
been
a
little
bit
longer,
maybe
emphasizing
some
certain
things,
and
we
will
certainly
take
those
into
consideration,
because
we
can
always
make
improvements
when
it
comes
to
our
trainings,
and
we
certainly
want
to
do
that.
F
So
again,
it's
just
high
level
overview
of
what
we
captured
from
from
the
workers
I
think
it's
important
that
we
always
get
their
feedback
because
they're
the
ones
out
there
doing
the
work,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
here
to
support
them
and
learn
from
from
what
we
did.
So
we
will
take
this
and
and
make
improvements
for
fever.
A
F
G
A
Okay,
we
have
very
similar
breakdown
party
wise,
we
had
52
of
our
Chief,
Judges
were
Democrats,
30
were
Republicans
and
18
were
unaffiliated,
it's
a
little
more.
Even
when
we
come
to
party
judges,
we
have
41
were
Republican,
42
percent
were
Democrat
and
17
were
unaffiliated,
and
once
again
we
had
a
large
number
of
returning
people.
Veterans
were
the
majority
58
of
our
public
workers
were
better
and
workers
as
compared
to
42
of
new
people.
A
We
actually
fired
544
people
to
work
on
Election
Day,
only
472
ended
up
working
yeah,
so
it
had
very,
very
significant
drop
off
from
the
time
of
being
hired
to
the
actual
election
day
and
significant
number
of
people
got
sick
and
we
were
running
into
covid
wearing
it.
Something
we
had
a
grand
blue
season
came
about,
so
he
did
lose
a
lot
of
people
which
is
an
illness.
We
also
had
surprisingly,
the
second
most
okay.
A
The
second
biggest
reason
that
people
didn't
end
up
working
was
just
that
they
simply
stopped
answering
the
phone
while
returning
emails,
they
agreed
to
work
and
then,
when
they
give
it
some
thought
or
something
else
comes
up.
They
just
decide
that
they're
not
going
to
do
it
and
they
don't
bother
to
respond.
A
So
it's
rather
frustrating
world
not
to
know
whether
to
replace
that
person
until
the
last
minute
moment
our
appointed
judges,
because
on
Election
Day,
many
of
our
judges
have
come
through
in
the
quantum
process
that
the
board
has
approved
and
on
the
second
stage
you
can
see
the
judges
who
were
appointed
and
who
ended
upward
week
and
I
wrote
that
down
also
by
party,
so
that
you
could
take
a
look
at
that
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
do
and
focus
on
next
year
as
we
come
through
that
process
again,
the
nomination
and
the
appointment
process
is
to
really
try
to
emphasize
to
people
that,
when
you
sign
on
to
do
this,
this
is
what
the
job
entails.
A
A
A
A
People
commented
how
important
it
was
that
the
chief
judge
was
an
organized
person.
If
the
chief
judge
wasn't
organized
it
created
all
kinds
of
problems
for
the
workers
from
the
length
of
time.
Please
they're
closing
up
the
precinct
at
the
end
of
the
day
to
how
boring
it
was
for
them,
because
they
didn't
get
rotated
through
different
tasks
that
we
had
a
few
responses
that
Chief
Judges
felt
that
they
really
knew
better
than
we
do
and
they
had
got
their
own
ways
of
doing
things.
A
A
This
one
I'm
always
very
I'm,
always
very
interested
to
know
how
this
one
is
going
to
come
out
because
I
ask
people
based
on
your
experience
of
the
poll
worker.
How
much
do
you
agree
with
the
statement
I'm
reassured
by
the
checks
and
balances
in
place
and
I
feel
confident
in
the
Integrity
of
the
election
process
in
Buncombe,
County
80
strongly
agree,
so
that
was
nice
to
know
and
over
10
agree,
so
I
mean
90
percent
were
on
the
positive
side.
For
that
very,
very
few
people
that
disagree.
A
We
also
asked
the
same
question
about
Spherion
Spherion,
not
not
terribly
popular
with
alcohol
workers.
They
do
have
quite
an
lengthy
onboarding
process.
A
Most
of
our
whole
work
is
felt.
It
was
their
civic
duty
that
was
more
important
to
them
than
money
and
then
I
asked.
How
would
you
sort
of
rate
the
support
you
received
from
the
Board
of
Elections
and
get
a
nice
overrun
with
positive
response
to
that
too,
about
90
rated
us
above
average
or
far
above
average,
and
then
I
asked
if
there
were
other
things
that
they
would
like
to
share?
A
There's
a
comment.
There's
a
question
on
the
back
that
I
think
director
Duncan
was
going
to
address
to
the
room,
and
perhaps
chairman
Quinn
would
like
to
add
into
some
comments,
but
one
of
the
things
I
liked.
One
person
said
we
have
a
lot
of
children
who
accompany
their
parents
to
come
and
vote
and
they'd
like
to
see
a
kiss
voting
program.
A
There
would
be
fun
ballots
with
fund
races
in
there
like
Patriot
ice
cream,
Etc
and
a
sticker
that
they
would
get
anticipating,
and
so
those
of
you
that
don't
have
a
copy,
I'll
just
read
the
last
few
quotes
I
was
personally
surprised
at
how
efficient
the
process
was,
and
the
quality
and
professionalism
of
my
team
I
really
enjoyed
working.
The
election
I've
wanted
to
do
it
for
a
long
time
and
met
all
my
expectations.
B
E
E
What
happens
after
they
they're
done,
and
if
many
of
you
attended
many
board
meetings
that
where
we
did
those
things
and
canvas
is
the
period
where
we
do
that
so
for
absentee
by
mail
and
early
voting,
we're
reconciling
all
along
the
process,
each
board
meeting
for
absentee
by
mail
each
day
for
early
voting,
and
then
we
go
through
the
process
during
canvas
where
we're
actually
auditing
that
we
also
do
the
sample
audit,
where
we
check
to
make
sure
that
the
machines
read
exactly
what
the
voters
cast
physically
in
the
ballots
just
to
have
that
double
check
there.
B
It
might
be
worthwhile
emphasizing
that
step
during
our
training,
so
that
the
folks
who
are
working
on
the
election
understand
that
you
know
when
you've
done
all
the
stuff
on
Election
Day.
It's
not
over,
because
we
take
the
stuff
back
and
we
audit-
and
that
might
add
some
measure
of
reassurance,
especially
for
the
new
workers.
D
I
just
had
one
question:
Mr
chairman:
can
you
hear
me
it's
the
and
this
may
it
may
be
more
question
about
early
voting.
It
was
there
any
where
the
mat
team
workers
part
of
the
survey
too
and
I'm
just
curious
as
if
there
was
any
feedback
on
the
Mad
team
process
since
that
changed
this
year.
As
a
result
of
the
Court
decision.
B
E
B
A
C
You
Mr
Quinn
thanks
to
staff,
for
this
marvelous
survey
and
and
I'm.
Sorry
me
a
little
faith.
I'm
sorry,
I
poked
in
your
cage
about
getting
here,
I
should
have,
should
ask
a
question:
are
we
going
to
see
the
survey
so,
but
thank
you
very
much
and
it's
here
and
and
that
you
got
it
out
quickly
and
she
did
Mr
Quinn
if
we
could
put
hey
set
aside
an
agenda
item
next
meeting
whenever
that
occurs,
to
have
a
whole
discussion
after
a
lot
of
chance
to
read
and
digest
this.
H
C
And
and
I've
got
a
homework
question
for
the
board.
That's
it's
kind
of
squishy,
but
I'd
love
to
hear
your
answers
to
it,
which
is
based
on
what
you
see
here.
You
know.
What
do
you
all
think
is
the
is
the
culture
of
our
organization.
C
I
mean
how
is
it
reflected
in
here
and
what
people
had
to
say
and
what
their
expectations
are
and
how
they
see
each
other,
how
they
saw
their
people
that
they
worked
with
and
and
I
I
think
this
matters
because
yeah,
it's
a
you
know
you
get
what
you
measure
and
I'd
like
to
know
that
people's
experience
translates
to
something
that
we
can
articulate
and
that
we
we
can
encourage
the
best
parts
of
it.
You
know
there's
just
more
than
just
a
mechanical
survey
of
the
process.
C
Now
this
really
got
into
people's
perception
that
their
of
their
role
and
their
work
and
and
and
the
board's
role
in
in
our
even
our
legal
role
they
met
was
how
does
it
matter?
How
does
what
they
thought?
They
were
doing,
mashed
with
with
what
the
statute
has
charged
us
with,
and
they
don't
match
very
well.
I.
Think
I
do
but
but
I
just
now
that
you've
Quantified
it
I'd
love
to
hear
from
the
board
membership.
C
What
do
they
think
they're,
seeing
here
and,
of
course,
I'm
sure
there
will
be
some
action
items
derived
from
it,
but
I
thought
it
was.
It
was
remarkable
for
what
it
said
about
the
culture
of
the
organization
and
and
of
the
and
other
poll
workers
themselves.
You
know
what
they
brought,
what
they
took
away
so
I.
Thank
you
very
much.
Also
I
think
this
is
deserving
of
being
shared
with
the
at
the
state
level
and
everybody
every
all,
100
counties
would
benefit
from
getting
this
level
of
feedback
from
their
poll.
C
B
I
I
look
forward
to
having
the
discussion
that
you're
suggesting
at
a
meeting
next
month,
we'll
be
talking
about
setting
a
date
for
those
meetings
soon.
You
know
later
in
this
meeting,
but
but
I
I
like
that
idea,
I
also
like
the
idea
of
having
Mr
Carpenter
involved
in
that
discussion.
H
H
E
Ms
Duncan
I
I
think,
is
a
very
important
discussion
to
have
because
we
we
talk
a
lot
about
mechanics
and
the
people
here.
We
see
us
and
we
feel
like
elections,
but
our
customers,
our
voters,
they
see
those
those
poll
workers
as
elections,
and
so
that
is
whatever
feeling
people
get
in
those
polling
locations
is
the
feeling
that
they
attach
to
elections,
and
so
it
is
very
important
that
we're
putting
out
the
environment
that
we
want
to
be
projecting
what
we
want.
I
think
it.
C
B
Any
other
questions
comments.
I
want
to
shift
gears
real
quickly
just
to
cross
off
an
agenda
item
Ms
Black.
We
started
to
tackle
the
minutes,
but
we
wanted
to
wait
until
you
were
here.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
an
opportunity
to
review
and
comment
on
them
and
I
know
that
Mr
aceto
has
Mr
Schultz
has
it
I
have.
B
So
we
are
suddenly
back
to
agenda
item
number
one
and
I
move
that
the
board
approved
the
minutes
of
Thursday
November
17
2022,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion.
Please
say:
I
I,
all
those
opposed
May.
Thank
you.
That
motion
passes
for
zero
I'm.
C
A
twin
pulling
the
Border,
if
you
don't
want,
since
we
have
abort
member
online,
may
I
suggest
a
roll
call
just
to
be
certain.
B
And
Mr
Schultz
did
vote
in
the
affirmative
and
the
the
four
members
in
attendance
have
all
voted
to
approve
those
meetings,
Mr
Carpenter
being
absent.
B
And
we
will
segue
right
to
a
discussion
of
the
minutes
of
Friday
November
18th.
Everybody
have
a
chance
to
give
them
the
once
over
twice
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes
of
Friday
November
18th
canvas
day
I'll,
please
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
Nate.
That
motion
also
passes
4-0.
We
shall
sign
the
minutes
and
with
that
we
really
do
finish.
The
election.
B
G
Ops
updates
director
Duncan
mentioned
the
30-day
sort
of
exact
case.
Then,
okay,.
B
B
B
B
Sorry
for
that
very
wordy
Interruption
there
I
love
30
day
sort
data,
because
that
is
the
most
accurate
Precinct
by
Precinct
information
that
we
have,
and
as
a
user
of
that
data
and
didn't
really
mean
to
editorialize
here,
but
as
a
user
of
that
data,
I
am
frustrated
by
the
fact
that
our
State
Board
of
Elections
does
not
use
30
day
30-day
sort
data
when
they
publish
election
results
I
still
don't
understand
why
we
do
it.
That
way
is.
B
A
B
So
I
I
told
Anna
Catherine
at
the
beginning
before
the
meeting
started.
I'll
probably
mess
this
up
on
next
meeting
date
and
I
won't
do
it
early
enough
in
the
meeting.
Thank
you
for
catching
me
any
day,
but
January
10th,
because
we'll
be
in
Haywood
County
from
the
sound
of
it
colleagues
next
month,
director
Duncan
is
suggesting
that
we
meet
a
couple
of
times.
So
we
can
finish
today's
discussion,
but
also
so
we
can
get
a
good
start
on
the
budget.
B
I
would
think
that
Tuesday
January
3rd
is
probably
not
a
real
good
idea.
The
following
Tuesday
there
is
State
session
in
Haywood,
County
January,
the
10th,
that's
so
I'm
guessing.
We
would
be
looking
at
the
17th
24th
31st
director
Duncan.
Do
you
see
anything
else
on
the
calendar
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of,
as
we
try
to
make
these
plans.
E
And
then
I'm
presenting
my
the
first
pass
of
the
budget
to
the
county
managed
Management
on
the
20th.
That's
the
first
pass,
so
changes
can
still
happen
after
then.
I'll
do
my
second
presentation
to
them
on
February
2nd.
So
we
want
to
have
things
pretty
pretty
in
order
before
then
so
I
think
meeting
and
switching
my
calendar
to
get
review
so
I
could
read
it
better,
but
the
10th
is
probably
not
the
best
day,
but
that
week
I
think
would
be
a
good
one.
B
Tell
those
on
the
in
the
audience
that
we
typically
have
our
meetings
on
Tuesdays,
because
elections
are
on
Tuesdays
I
mean
it's
really
that
simple,
there's
a
lot
in
the
calendar.
That
is,
you
know,
directed
by
law,
that
you
know
uses
those
Tuesdays
but
yeah.
We
we
don't
need
to
stick
with
that,
especially
when
we
don't
have
any
elections
looming.
This
is
this.
Is
our
chance
to
really
get
things
all
set
up
for
2024.,
so
director
Duncan?
Do
you
have
any
specific
suggestions
or
recommendations
with
respect
to
that?
Second
week
in
January,.
B
Colleagues,
how
does
how?
How
do
your
calendars
look
for
January,
9th
11th,
12th.
C
All
right,
I'm
going
to
be
out
of
the
country
on
the
25th
until
into
February.
So
if
you
can,
if
you
can
indulge
me,
those
times
are
not
those
are
not
good
times
for
me.
E
E
Might
is
our
Tuesday,
that's
our
normal
time,
so
we
could
do
the
17th
and
and
even
the
24th.
If
you
wanted
to
stick
to
Tuesdays.
E
B
Yeah
and
we
shall
confirm
with
with
Mr
Carpenter,
to
make
sure
he
can
make
those.
B
There
is
another
calendar
related
question,
and
that
is
you
know,
meetings
Beyond
January.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
activity
this
year,
but
I
think
it's.
It
does
make
sense
to
get
together
once
a
month,
there's
a
reasonably
decent
chance
that
we
will
have
developments
in
the
legislative
Arena
judicial
Arena.
That
that
will
affect
our
work
and
I.
Think
coming
in
once
a
month
is
a
good
idea.
B
B
C
D
I'll
certainly
be
around
to
personally
attend
I
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
just
to
meet
once
a
month.
People
are
going
to
have
vacations
and
other
conflicts,
but
I
always
think
it's
a
good
idea
not
to
have
long
lapses
between
meetings,
because
things
do
happen
and
things
just
a
good
idea
to
have
regular
meetings
of
an
organization.
B
All
right,
you
know
what
I'm
guessing
when
we
get
together
next
month,
we'll
be
in
a
better
position
to
map
out
the
February
March
April.
But
let's
keep
that
in
mind
that
that's
what
we
want
to
do
just
once,
a
month
after
January
next
year,.
E
That
we're
just
about
to
have
to
have
things
on
the
agenda
for
future
meetings
and
then
also
keep
in
mind
that
the
Commissioners
meetings
are
on
the
first
and
third
Tuesdays
of
the
month.
So
sometimes
people
are
interested
in
participating
in
those,
and
they
have
to
choose
so,
maybe
not
being
on
those
days
would
be
helpful
with
timing.
Commissioner
meetings,
yes.
H
E
Hey
fantastic
and
before
I
begin,
I
have
a
message
from
Devin
that
says
the
precinct
sort
data
is
available.
I
E
All
right,
so
we
met
with
temps
before
they
all
left
us
to
discuss
how
things
went
for
them.
So
we
got
input
through
them
on
how
what
types
of
improvements
we
could
do,
and
we
also
had
two
staff
meetings.
They
were
very
long
meetings
each
where,
where
we
talked
about
kind
of
just
the
after
election
review.
E
So
from
that,
we
came
up
with
four
points
that
we
thought
that
would
be
relevant
to
the
board.
So
I
thought
that
we
could
go
through
those
talk
about
those
and
most
of
these
I
think
actually
should
be
addressed
in
a
meeting
of
their
own,
but
I
think
that
we
should
bring
them
up
now,
so
that
our
gears
start
turning
on
things
and
then
and
then
I
would
love
to
hear
any
input
that
that
you
all
have
for
improvements,
especially
ones
that
might
have
budget
impacts.
E
We
think
that
the
it
might
be
appropriate
for
the
board
to
have
more
of
an
input
on
how
many
early
voting
sites
are
while
we're
building
the
budget
process,
and
so
that
would
be
something
that
we
should
do
as
we're
thinking
about
budget
for
the
next
fiscal
year,
and
we
have
suggestions
on
that
and-
and
we
can
have
that-
that
discussion
definitely
don't
need
to
make
that
choice
now,
but
that
will
will
help
put
parameters
on
how
many
sites
that
we
should
request
in
the
budget.
E
E
Exactly
so,
it
would
just
be
changes.
G
E
E
The
next
thing
that
I
think
has
come
up
a
few
times
is
the
of
General
overall
review
of
voting
locations.
So
that's
for
early
voting
and
election
day
and
I
suggest
that
we
have
an
open
meeting
and
where
people
can
come
and
talk
to
us
about
both
sides,
complaints
about
voting
locations
and
suggestions
for
new
ones,
and
we
do
that
early
in
the
in
2023,
so
that
if
we
find
suggestions
for
change
or
or
different
improvements,
we
have
time
to
shift.
E
B
Pardon
my
interruption
I
like
that
idea:
I
like
that
idea
of
going
to
the
public
because
they're
the
ones
who
use
these
voting
locations
I
hate
the
idea
of
asking
the
public
to
come
in
here
for
that
discussion.
So
let's
talk
about
doing
a
Road
Show,
where
we
go
out
to
communities
where
people
where
voters
vote
and
that
way,
I
think
we
can
get
better
participation
from
the
community.
So
all
four
corners
of
the
county.
B
Yes
bit,
yes,
indeed,
thank
you,
Mr
aceto,
one
thing
I've
been
interested
for
a
good
long
time
is
developing
a
profile
of
each
Precinct.
That
profile
would
include
things
such
as
the
voting
location.
B
You
know
it's
address
its
degree
of
ADA
compliance,
the
size
of
the
parking
lot,
how
comfortable
it
is
for
workers
and
for
voters
what
other
conflicts
there
might
be
in
using
that
space
on
Election
Day.
B
That
Precinct
profile
would
have
data
about
how
many
people
are
registered
in
the
precinct.
What
the
turnout
looks
like
in
in
that
preset,
so
we
have
a
really
good
view,
a
really
good
picture
of
what
that
Precinct
looks
like.
We
would
have
information
about
folks
who
have
been
election
officials
at
that
Precinct.
So
we
know
oh
look.
This
is
this
is
the
same
same
set
of
folks
every
time.
Well
different.
Folks,
every
time
look
at
this,
we
we
have
a
hard
time
Staffing
this
Precinct.
We
have
an
easy
Time
Staffing
that
Precinct.
B
That
does
as
good
a
job
as
we
can
describing
each
of
the
80
precincts
and
what
that
Precinct
needs
to
make
sure
that
it
has
a
really
smooth
running
electoral
process
so
that
one
of
the
hard
things
about
being
on
the
board
is
the
board.
Members
come
and
go.
Staff
knows
what's
going
on
staff's
here,
but
board
members
come
and
go,
and
there
can
be
quite
a
learning
curve.
One
has
to
climb
when
you
get
on
the
board
to
find
out
about
all
80
of
these
precincts,
not
to
mention
numerous
early
voting
locations.
B
So
the
idea
of
having
these
Precinct
profile
reports
is
to
have
a
compendium
so
that
the
board
has
the
information
the
Board
needs
to
understand.
What's
going
on
and
to
do
as
as
good
a
job
as
they
can
making
informed
decisions.
H
A
Can
you
say
that
I
can
definitely
see
how
that
could
be
used
for
public
education
as
well?
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
folks
that
don't
really
understand
that
a
Precinct
is
more
than
the
number
on
the
voting
card
that
there's
actual
humans
that
meet
in
precincts
and
don't
understand
that
precincts
make
up
clusters
and
if
somehow,
that
information
could
be
made
more
available
along
with
some
education
around
precincts
and
clusters
and
the
process
of
getting
involved
locally.
That
might
be
really
helpful.
B
Well,
it's
funny
that
you
mentioned
clash
of
the
Clusters,
because
when
I
made
the
suggestion
about
you
know,
let's,
let's
take
this.
This
public
discussion
of
voting
locations
on
the
road-
let's
take
it
out
to
the
community.
I
was
thinking
of
the
Clusters.
A
cluster
is
a
group
of
anywhere
from
four
to
nine
precincts
and
oddly
know
things
based
on
the
experience
that
I
have
had
with
my
party
I.
B
Don't
know
how
how
other
parties
do
it,
but
it's
an
attempt
to
take
80
precincts
and
organize
them
into
smaller
groups
that
are
easier
to
manage,
and
so
folks
can
get
together
periodically
get
to
know
one
another.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
found
in
in
my
work
with
clusters
is:
let's
say
you
got
a
cluster
with
six
precincts
and
five
of
them
are,
you
know,
they're
pretty
well
organized.
You
know
they
got
Precinct
officers,
they
got
election
workers,
one
of
them
struggles.
B
One
of
them
always
has
a
hard
time
getting
election
workers
or
something
those
other
five
precincts
they
get
together.
They
help
out
the
people
in
the
sixth
Precinct
in
the
cluster,
get
organized
and
figure
out
how
to
do
this
stuff.
It
really
does
help
the
parties
get
organized
at
a
more
granular
level.
It's
hard
to
do
with
80
precincts
I
mean
goodness
knows
much
easier
with
them
with
with
a
smaller
set
but
I.
You
know,
I
I
only
know
my
own
narrow
experience
on
this
one,
but
I've
found
a
clusters
to
be
very,
very
helpful.
C
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I
I,
guess
it's
a
way
to
organize
data
and,
and
and
how
do
you
pick,
what
what
are
you
going
to
organize
and
which
gets
back
to
I
wish
I'd
written
down
everything
you
said
about
the
things
you
wanted
to
measure
in
a
Precinct,
because
that's
kind
of
my
my
related
question
is:
is
I
I
I'd
love
to
have
the
discussion
about?
C
What
are
you,
what
are
we
measuring
at
the
precinct
level
or
the
cluster
level
or
whatever
level,
because
you
know
what
you
measures,
what
you
tend
to
get
and
and
I
I
look
at
this
exercise.
I'm
talking
about
this
about
the
recruiting
data
from
the
election
from
the
three
sources
here,
I
think
a
masterful
job
was
done
of
assessing
what
ought
to
be
measured.
Probably
certainly
you
can.
We
can
mess
with
that
some
more,
but
that
was
a
pretty.
That
was
a
pretty
good
exercise
in
organizational
judgment.
C
I
just
so
maybe
lightning
will
strike
twice
when
we
do
this
Precinct
level
data,
Gathering
process,
yeah,
I,
I,
think
that
the
conversation
to
start
with
ought
to
be
about.
Why
do
you?
What
are
you
gathering
at
the
precinct
level?
You
know
just
what
are
you?
C
What
are
you
measuring
and
talk
about
that
so
yeah
I
would
encourage
staff
next
them
that
when
we
do
get
to
the
next
level,
to
the
next
meeting,
where
we
talk
about
gathering
information
at
the
precinct
level
and
coming
up
with
Precinct
profiles
now
what
do
you
all
think
that
we
ought
to
be
considered?
C
And
you
know
what
is
what
is
a
Precinct
Pro?
You
know:
what's
the
what's
the
profile
of
the
precinct,
you
know
what
is
it
you
know,
how
do
you
describe
it
in
a
way
that
and
for
what
purpose,
so
yeah
I
look
forward
to
what.
C
D
I
guess
the
one
question
I
would
have
is
I
mean
it's
a
great
idea,
I
think
I
guess
two
questions
I
would
have
is
number
one.
It's
it's
only
good
if
it's
an
ongoing
process
where
it's
updated
regularly,
but
the
bigger
question
is
with
all
the
things
that
go
on
in
election
years.
Is
this
something
that
the
staff
is
just
going
to
have
time
to
do?
B
The
the
the
beauty
of
it
is
that
excuse
me,
we
have
the
data
and
the
challenge
is
to
compile
the
data
in
a
fashion
that
makes
it
easily
accessible
and
reviewable,
especially
by
the
board.
Members
and
I,
think
that
this
whole
concept
is
going
to
be
a
whole
lot
easier
for
folks
to
understand
when
they
see
a
draft
of
a
Precinct
profile.
B
Not
all
80
of
them
do
just
one
generic
profile,
and
you
will
see
the
different
data
elements
that
we
already
have
I
do
not
Envision
the
need
to
develop
any
new
data
for
this.
We've
got
it,
but
we
just
need
it
all
together
in
one
place
where,
when
we're
making
decisions
about
elections,
whether
it's
the
location
of
a
polling
place
or
who
the
election
officials
are
going
to
be
whatever
we've
got
that
information
right
in
front
of
us
all.
B
I
would
say
anything
that's
relevant
to
the
process
and
that's
one
of
the
great
things
about
having
five
perspectives
on
this
board.
Because
different
members
are
going
to
have
different
ideas
about
what
they
think
is
relevant
to
the
process.
And
what
they'd
like
to
see
in
there
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
enable
us
to
develop
as
comprehensive
a
profile
for
each
Precinct.
As
we
can.
B
Yes,
why
why
I'll
give
you
an
example.
B
B
A
Precinct
profile
is
going
to
make
that
very,
very
obvious
to
the
board
members
when
they
see
a
map
of
the
precinct
and
then
they
see
in
order
to
vote,
you
got
to
go
down
the
mountain
and
go
downtown
board.
Members
are
going
to
understand
that
this
is
sub-optimal
and
it's
something
that
we
need
to
try
to
address.
Without
that
Precinct
profile
report.
It's
not
readily
apparent
as
soon
as
you
see
the
map
of
23.2,
where,
as
soon
as
you
see
the
map
of
60.4,
it
becomes
very,
very
clear
that
we
have
an
exception.
A
F
A
Precinct
as
much
as
possible
and
I
know,
we've
done
that,
but
we
haven't
been
successful
in
getting
it
there
right.
So
I'm
excited
about
the
idea
of
getting
public
input,
so
people
can
give
us
new
ideas
that
staff
can
then
follow
up
with,
because
I
know,
staff
has
tried
and
tried
and
tried,
but
there's
only
so
much
a
human
can
do
and
the
community
knows
a
lot
more
than
we
do.
B
B
We
also
had
really
good
Community
participation
in
freeing
up
parking
at
that
North
Asheville
library
parking
lot.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
I
like
the
idea
of
the
Road
show
and
getting
as
much
of
the
community
involved
as
possible,
because
there's
a
I
think
there's
a
whole
lot.
We
can
learn
from
them.
G
B
I
I
understand
I,
have
I,
have
discussed
previously
profile
reports
with
director
Duncan
numerous
numerous
times,
and
she
and
I
have
agreed
that
2023
is
an
opportunity.
I
mean
I
personally
can't
stand
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
Elections
November
2023,
but
the
Silver
Lining
to
that
is.
B
We
have
more
resource
availability
for
doing
the
kind
of
work
that
I'm
talking
about
with
the
precinct
profile
report
or
the
kind
of
work
that
we're
talking
about
on
doing
follow-up
on
the
review
of
the
2022
election
with
an
eye
towards
making
2024
work
more
smoothly.
That's
what
2023
is
for
us
and
with
the
hires
that
we've
had
recently
and
the
fact
that
all
of
this
data
already
exists.
B
Nobody
has
to
run
any
programs
to
develop
the
data.
It's
there.
It's
just
a
matter
of
pulling
it
off
the
shelf
and
putting
it
into
a
format
that
that's
helpful
for
board
members
and
members
of
the
public.
A
I
G
B
It
makes
sense
to
I
think
that,
as
we
look
at
this
going
forward,
we
do
it
with
an
open
mind
and
a
great
deal
of
flexibility.
Our
objective
is
to
make
things
work
as
smoothly
as
possible
for
voters
for
staff
for
election
workers
and
the
more
input
the
more
perspective
we
get
on
that
I
think
the
better
job
we
can
do
getting
that
preparation
completed.
G
A
E
A
B
B
What
in
Precinct
Poll
for
all
report
that
would
be
an
internal
document
for
election
services
staff
and
Board
of
Elections
it
would
it
would
inform
our
work
I
on
it.
Well,
we'll
we'll
see
we'll
make
that
determination,
I'm,
not
making
any
promises.
Let
me
put
it
this
way.
B
My
my
interest
in
this
and
my
objective
in
this
is
making
sure
that
all
the
members
of
the
board
are
as
fully
informed
as
possible
when
they
are
making
decisions
and
I
know
that
new
members
are
really
at
a
disadvantage,
because
there
is
a
ton
and
a
half
of
information
yeah.
Maybe
you
can
speak
to
this
Mr
seal,
but
I
it
takes
a
while
to
kind
of
get
up
to
speed
and
I.
B
B
There
isn't
a
a
formal
compilation
and
I
don't
know
I
I.
This
is
something
I've
had
in
in
mind
for
the
past
five
years
or
so,
and
I
view
2023
as
the
golden
opportunity
to
try
to
finally
get
that
first
draft
out
with
a
very
clear
understanding
that
any
anything
like
this
is
a
living
document.
It's
going
to
change
all
the
time.
It's
going
to
change
all
the
time,
because
the
the
data
elements
all
change.
Our
population
changes,
voter
registration
changes,
there's
just
tons
of
stuff
legal
requirements
change.
B
When
we
first
started
to
establish
Precinct
voting
locations,
there
was
no
Americans
with
Disability
Act
requirements
that
we
had
to
follow.
There
are
now
and
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
would
be
captured
in
a
Precinct
profile
report.
Is
this
a
good
accessible
location
for
voting?
Yes
or
no
right?
Now,
it's
kind
of
hard
for
five
board
members
to
visit
80
precincts.
C
Again
to
indulge
me
in
another
devotional
reading
from
the
book,
but
I
won't
read
the
whole
thing,
but
just
thank.
H
C
163-33
describes
the
opportunities
of
the
Board
of
Elections
and
163.
That's
35
describes
the
duties
of
the
director
and
163
33
goes
on
for
13
paragraphs
that
are
numbered,
describing
the
duties
but
I.
Think
that's
a
good
Grit.
Is
you
know,
oh
just
to
start
with?
Are
we
measuring
the
things
that
the
law
says
that
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
I
mean
I
mean
how
am
I
doing
well?
C
What
am
I
doing
and
am
I
doing
this,
and
to
get
back
to
your
comment,
all
right,
Johnny
is
that
you
know
if
this
is
what
the
law
tells
us
to
do
and
we're
measuring
that.
Then
we
owe
it
to
you
to
share
it
with
you.
Okay,
that's
you
know
that
that's
getting
the
heart
of
why
we're
here
and
but
this
isn't
an
exhaustive
list
of
what
we
ought
to
be
looking
at,
but
it's
a
great
place
to
start
as
we're
considering
what
what
we
think
is
relevant.
C
C
What
we're
charged
with
by
Statute,
not
that
I,
think
there's
some
deficit
here,
not
at
all,
but
you
know
this
as
we're
beginning
to
think
think
about
how
to
think
about
it
planning
a
plan.
You
know
we
do.
We
do
have
a
sort
of
road
map
here.
It's
a
legal
roadmap,
but
now
take
a
minute
to
look
at
it.
Okay,
so
some
of
these
things,
obviously
don't
lend
themselves
to
any
kind
of.
C
You
know
right
of
planning
pipe
exercise,
but
a
lot
of
them
are,
you
know,
are
you
doing
what
says
you're
supposed
to
do,
or
have
you
at
least
made
a
provision
to
to
to
ask
that
question
and
get
an
answer?
You
know
it's
just
the
way
that
we
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
the
people
to
each
other.
C
That's
a
place,
just
that's
an
example,
I.
Think
of
what
you're
talking
about
here.
E
I
definitely
see
opportunities
in
this
and
and
I
I
have
wanted
to
do
a
review
of
our
precincts
for
a
while.
B
And
I'm,
sorry,
that
was
quite
a
lengthy
Interruption.
Wasn't
it
she
she
had
four.
She
only
got
through
two,
my
bad.
E
Giant
customer
base
and
and
media
and
all
the
things
that
we
do,
we
have
a
tiny
budget,
so
resources
are
limited,
so
whatever
we've
come
up
with
I
think
we
can
come
up
with
something:
that's
useful
to
staff
the
board
and
the
public.
So
you
know
I
think
that
we
can
come
up
with
something
that
works
and
we
do
have
more
resources
now
with
more
people.
So
we
might
be
able
to
develop
a
little
bit
more
more
of
that.
E
But
thank
you
to
everyone
who
watched
out
for
us
of
making
this
practical.
It
does
everything
that
we
do
in
this
department
needs
to
be
practical
and
Steve
I
like
we
need
to
keep.
E
We
need
to
keep
bounce
on
things
and
and
I
think
your
basis
is
a
good
one
and
then
a
little
bit
outside
of
that
another
benefit
of
of
doing
this
and
understanding
our
polling
locations
and
where
we
might
want
to
improve
the
county
is
also
looking
at
their
comprehensive
plan
for
the
entire
entire
County,
and
it
might
be
that
we
can
suggest.
Maybe
we
need
more
community
centers
in
in
this
area,
so
we
can
contribute
that
way
too.
I
E
The
the
third
item
is
something
that
we
have
discussed
previously,
that
we
have
made
lots
of
progress
on
that.
We
need
to
continue
to
make
progress
on,
and
that
is
election
day
poll
worker,
Recruitment
and
interaction
with
the
parties
clarifying
that
process,
making
better
forms,
having
clear
communication
on
dates.
So
I
think
that
we
should
continue
doing
that.
E
Absolutely
I'm,
glad
that
we
made
those
the
strides
that
we
have
already
and
then
the
fourth
thing,
which
I
think
that
we
can
have
some
discussion
on
now
and
also
fits
well
with
what
we
were
just
talking
about
with
Precinct
report
cards
and
having
information
for
the
board
is
that
now
that
we
have
a
trainer
and
a
clerk
to
the
board,
we
have
a
little
bit
more
capacity
to
serve
you
better
and
by
serving
you
better,
we
serve
the
public
better.
E
So
we
want
to
know
what
you
would
like
that
will
help
better
operations.
So
how
does
the
board
want
to
communicate
where
the
laptops
that
we've
provided
useful?
Do
we
want
a
different
configuration
for
the
boardroom?
E
We
we
would
like
to
provide
training
for
the
board,
so
when
the
new
board
comes
in
July
provide
training.
What
do
we
want
that
to
look
like
what
what
resources
would
be
useful
to
you
so
definitely
want
to
have
a
discussion
on
them.
If
there's
anything
immediate
that
you
know
right
now,
we
can
talk
about
those,
but
I
think
that
we
should
also
have
make
time
for
that
in
a
later
meeting
as
well.
D
Let
me
just
chime
in
real
quickly
here,
because
there's
I
mean
I'm
I
just
came
out
in
March
of
2022.,
but
just
in
terms
of
getting
a
handle
on
the
law,
and
this
is
something
maybe
it's
for
the
State
Board
to
do
not
the
county
boards,
but
if
they
could
just
provide
a
summary
of
what
the
law
is
in
terms
of
elections
in
North,
Carolina
I
know
back
in
2016.
D
D
If
the
Board
of
Elections
could
State
Board
of
Elections
could
and
I,
don't
know
how
these
these
recommendations
kind
of
filter
up
to
the
state
board,
but
if
they
could
put
together
a
50-page
summary
of
what
the
election
law
is
in
North
Carolina
for
people
like
me,
who
are
new
and
don't
never
dealt
with
election
law
before
I
think
something
like
that
would
be
really
helpful
to
somebody
coming
on
the
board
or
people
who've
been
on
the
board.
C
And
certainly
the
devil's
in
the
details,
because
looking
at
the
law
is
always
involves
an
opinion
of
what
the
law
is
exactly
and
and
and
opinions
will
vary.
But
it
sounds
like
a
good
exercise
because
that's
what
we
do
all
the
time.
B
D
This
document,
the
Democratic
party,
put
together,
hey
I,
understand
Steve's
point:
it's
a
good
one.
It's
it
really
just
covered
the
statute.
I
mean
just
the
statutory
provisions
and
I
understand
that
people
can
look
at
that
differently,
but
I
thought
it
was
helpful
and
just
providing
an
initial
road
map
as
to
what
the
law
provided
regarding
elections
in
North
Carolina.
C
And
I
have
one
other
comment
about
that,
which
is
that
the
Devin
did
or
did
a
really
good
job
of
a
high
fidelity
speaker
Arrangement
back
here.
It's
really
maybe
too
good,
because
Glenn
sounds
like
God
speaking.
A
C
E
And
definitely
would
require
a
meeting,
perhaps
all
onto
itself,
and
that
is
through
our
various
discussions
and
and
frustrations
throughout
the
election.
Our
ballot
on
demand
system
came
up
a
lot,
and
so
we
are
thinking
that
a
switch
to
expressvote
should
be
considered.
A
E
That
would
be
switching
to
expressvote
only
for
early
voting,
not
for
election
day
and
moving
away
from
the
ballot
on
demand
system,
and
that
would
increase
our
reliability.
That
they'd
be
machines
that
last
longer,
if
one
went
down
it
wouldn't
be
such
an
impact
that
it
has
on
us
now,
but
we
can
go
into
those
details
later
and
and
I
think
we
should
do
it
later
because
it
requires
definitely
and
all
this
is
a
voting
system
change.
E
So
the
Ford
needs
to
be
on
board
with
this
and
there's
a
lot
to
think
about
with
it
definite
budget
impact.
So
we
it's
another
one
that
we
should
prioritize
early,
because
if
we
want
to
do
that
for
2024,
we
need
to
get
that
on
the
radar
of
the
commissioners.
B
When
are
they
going
to
upgrade
their
machinery
wow.
That's
a
big
deal,
okay,
yeah!
That
does
sound
like
a
meeting
unto
itself
I'm
wondering,
though,
if
we
are
going
to
hey
reach
out
to
the
community
to
discuss
voting
locations.
Might
we
also
want
to
talk
about
this
I?
Just
so
you
all
know,
balatar
is
a
machine
that
we
use
to
produce
a
specific
ballot
for
a
specific
voter
during
early
voting.
B
As
you
know,
we
have
myriad
ballot
Styles
depending
on
your
party,
your
District,
all
that
kind
of
thing
and
Bellator
will
give
you
exactly
the
ballot
that
you're
supposed
to
vote.
The
problem
with
those
machines
is
they're,
not
the
most
reliable
and
we
use
them
a
great
deal.
I
mean,
let's
you
look
at
the
amount
of
early
voting
activity.
It's
it's
staggering.
B
So
the
express
vote
is
the
machine
that
we
use.
That,
generally
it's
it's,
you
know,
site
impaired
or
hearing
impaired
voters
who
go
to
a
voting
site
to
cast
their
vote
are
able
to
use
this
expressvote
machine
which
marks
the
ballot
for
them,
and
if
we
used
expressvote
during
early
voting,
we
wouldn't
need
balance.
Our
machines
and
the
breakdowns
wouldn't
be
an
issue
for
us.
B
So
it
might
be
that
when
we
take
this
out
on
the
road,
we
can
show
people
and
just
try
to
get
some
kind
of
feedback.
Don't
want
to
shock
anybody
with
anything.
B
C
Of
paper
yeah,
okay,
but
that
but
that's
not
how
the
voter
is
interfacing,
they're
interfacing
with
a
screen
and
then
it
turns
into
a
piece
of
paper.
That's
good!
So
I
would
say:
let's
imitate
the
good
things
about
Charlotte
and
they
that
might
be
might
not
be
one
of
them,
but
just
the
same.
But
thanks
I
I
appreciate
it
deserves
that
level
of
that
that
the
chairs
just
discussed.
B
E
H
B
Items
two
of
them
are
voting
locations
or
the
number
so
a
poll
worker
recruitment
relations
with
the
local
parties.
What
does
the
board
need
and
Bellator.
A
E
B
B
B
What
else
do
we
have
one
thing,
I
I
do
want
to
take
a
look
at
when
we're
reviewing
precincts
a
split
precincts
precincts
that
are
not
geographically
contiguous.
B
A
Precinct
shouldn't
be
in
two
parts:
it
should
all
be
connected
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
same
precepts
that
we
hope
our
general
assembly
uses
in
drawing
districts
are
precepts
that
we
follow
in
Precision
development
here
and
I
know.
There's
been
a
whole
lot
that
has
developed
by
the
development.
I
mean
real
estate
development,
since
we
last
redid
the
precincts
and
we
haven't
redone
the
precincts
for
like
15
years.
B
B
H
B
It
is
a
process
that,
at
this
point,
is
very
very
tightly
controlled
by
the
State
Board
of
Elections
County
boards
used
to
have
more
flexibility
that
flexibility
was
diminished
for
a
pretty
simple
reason.
B
There
are
a
lot
of
people
who
like
to
see
the
data
collected
for
the
same
geographic
area
election
after
election
after
election
after
election,
and
when
you
change
Precinct
boundaries,
you
lose
the
continuity
in
that
time,
series
and
so
election
officials,
elected
officials,
nothing
elected
officials,
not
election
elected
officials
tend
to
prefer
that
we
leave
boundaries
just
the
way
they
are
because
that's
the
data
that
they
have
used
historically
to
get
elected,
and
so
we
don't
have
nearly
the
flexibility
to
change
precincts
that
we
did
years
ago.
B
It's
not
as
important
that
we
change
those
boundaries
anymore.
Back
in
the
day
before
we
had
early
voting,
you
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
your
precincts
organized
so
that
you
could
handle
the
crowd
on
Election
Day.
We
handle
our
crowds
during
early
voting
pretty
much
now
and
so
I
look
at
a
Precinct
like
18.2
when
18.2
was
drawn,
it
had
a
population
that
was
really
a
fraction.
A
small
fraction
of
what
it
is
currently
18.2
is
an
enormously
populated
South.
B
It's
yeah
TC
Roberson
High
School,
and
it's
that's
right
near
the
South
Buncombe
library
right.
B
You
can
that
with
the
amount
of
development
that
has
occurred
that
occurred
in
terms
of
Condominiums
Apartments
residential
communities,
it's
just
it's
exploded
in
population
and
once
upon
a
time
we
would
have
been
pretty
quick
to
change
that
Precinct
boundary.
Just
so
we
wouldn't
be
overwhelmed
on
Election
Day,
it's
not
as
urgent
now,
because
so
many
people
vote
early,
but
it
is
still,
it
is
still
a
concern
and
actually
18.2
is
kind
of
a
tough
Precinct,
because
it's
such
a
busy
location.
B
C
Is
that
we're
we're
a
data
source
and
and
the
data
that's
being
used
to
to
determine
you
know
how
an
election
is
conducted
is,
is
changing
and
the
sources
are
changing
and
the
algorithms
that
are
used
to
interpret
it
are,
you
know,
are
just
really
in
their
early
stages
and
being
developed,
and
so
you
know
we're
we're
a
data
mine,
we're
we're
a
we're,
a
mother
load
of
data
and
we're
going
to
be
asked
more
and
more
about
that
it.
C
It
really
indirectly,
but
significantly
shapes
things
and
well
that
I
haven't
begun
to
wrap
my
mind
around
that
question.
But
I
it's
just
it's
something.
To
put
your
finger
next
to
it's.
B
C
B
You
look
at
the
work
that
staff
does
right
now
you
go
to
the
dashboard
and
you
can
find
out
Precinct
by
Precinct
what
registration
numbers
look
like
and
you
can
get
demographic
breakdowns
and
that's
out
there
every
single
day
and
that's
easily
accessible
available
to
anybody.
Everybody
building
on
that
makes
a
whole
lot
of
sense,
but
we
have
a
really
really
solid
foundation
now,
based
on
the
all
the
good
work
staff's
already
done,
and
all
the
information
products
are
already
available
or
and
more.
E
A
I
think
we
worked
on
the
efficiency
issue
when
we
had
thousands
of
absentee
ballots
to
review
so
I
appreciated
all
the
efforts
to
make
that
process
as
efficient
as
possible.
B
I'm
going
to
be
real
curious
to
see
what
what
the
volume
of
absentee
voting
is
in
2024
remains
to
be
seen
what
the
voting
rules
are
going
to
be.
A
Appreciated
having
visual
it
was,
you
know
the
thoughts
are
here.
They
want
to
know
the
numbers
and
how
many
SNB
ballots
we
have
and
how
many
were
approving
and
how
many
were
not
approving.
It
was
nice
to
have
a
board
there
with
some
visuals,
so
everyone
could
see
those
numbers
and
it
just
felt
more
transparent,
and
that
could
just
glance
up
there
and
know
where
we
were
and
other
people
could
do
that
too.
So
that
was
nice.
A
nice
touch.
B
Yeah,
like
we
like,
we
did
in
in
2020
yeah.
C
And
think
about
how
to
make
that
board
that
Linda's
talking
about
with
the
tally
more
friendly
to
the
online
viewers?
So
they
can.
B
B
B
D
I
have
one
other
question
over
the
course
of
the
past
year.
It
seems
like
there
are
issues
that
come
up
and
they're
really
legal
issues
which
seem
to
be
Merit.
A
memorandum
from
the
state
board
when
we,
when
we
review
the
absentee
ballots,
the
one
that
came
to
mind
is
the
year
went
on
because
I
changed.
My
view
of
this
thing.
As
the
year
went
on
was
how
should
we
assess
the
issue
of
witness
signatures
or
questionable
witness
signatures
on
absentee
ballots?
D
As
far
as
I
can
tell,
there's
memos
that
address
voter
signatures
but
and
I
may
be
missing
something,
but
there's
no
memo
that
specifically
addresses
witness
signatures
and
how
they
should
be
looked
at
and
that
sort
of
thing,
if
there's
any
way,
that
we
can
have
a
process
of
formulating
issues
that
we
think
the
State
Board
should
take
a
look
at
and
come
out
with
a
memo
because
they're
always
well
researched
and
well
thought
out.
D
E
So
we
can
definitely
bring
things
to
the
State,
Board,
absolutely
and
I.
Think
the
more
we
do
that
the
better.
So
we
can,
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
list
of
things
that
we
bring.
E
It
is
also
the
board's
duty
to
deal
with
those
gray
areas
right
and
one
of
one
thing,
I
think
that
we
can
improve
on
in
the
gray
areas
is
when
we,
you
know,
try
to
anticipate
more,
especially
when
we
have
board
members
who
have
been,
who
have
gone
through
things
and
have
have
areas
that
they
want
Clarity
on,
have
that
discussion
and
and
let's
document
it
a
little
bit
better
so
that
we
don't,
you
know,
aren't
scrambling
looking
through
the
minutes
for
the.
E
What
we
decided
in
2020
have
a
formal
process,
whether
you
all
want
to
do
that
in
a
policy,
and
then
we
have
those
policies
stored
somewhere
in
the
boardroom
where
everyone
can
review
them.
Yes,
I
think
something
like
that
will
help.
You
know
what
did
we
decide
last
time?
Why
did
we
decide
that
and,
and
so
and
it'll
also
help
us
record
what
is
not
clear
and
we
can
bring
those
to
the
state
yeah.
A
Some
of
the
10
questions
like
if
there's
a
write-in
and
that's
the
only
thing-
that's
there
for
a
particular
candidate,
but
they
didn't
Circle
in
the
bubble.
You
know
we
said
we
were
going
to
accept
that
this
time,
but
is
that
is
that
a
rule
is
that
going
to
be
the
next
time
and
where
you
know,
if
we
make
those
decisions,
let's
keep
track
of
them.
I
agree
and
make
sure
that
we
have
them
easily
accessible
and
reviewable.
G
B
I
I
understand
I
will
I
will
tell
you
how
Board
of
Elections
meetings
work.
We
have
five
members
of
the
board.
Four
of
them
are
participating
today.
One
can't
make
it
and
we
are
teeing
up
the
discussion
of
the
review
of
2022
and
prep
for
2024.
before
we
ask
the
public
to
weigh
in
with
observations
and
suggestions,
we
like
to
have
our
discussions
and
we
like
members
of
the
public,
having
the
opportunity
to
hear
what
we've
we've
discussed
so
that
they
know
oh
here's,
what
they
didn't
hit
or
gee.
B
They
talked
about
this,
but
I
see
it
differently
than
they
do.
We
want
to
give
you
the
benefit
of
hearing
our
discussion
before
you
weigh
in
with
your
observations
and
issues
so
I.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
for
being
here,
I
really
do
appreciate
the
public
participation,
but
I
just
want
you
to
wanted
you
to
know
how
how
it
tends
to
work
and
everybody
gets
to
play.
B
B
Well,
but
not
too
comfortable
exactly
there's
pluses
and
minuses
to
that
colleagues,
I
I'm
I'm
hearing
some
some
urgency
from
the
audience
that
they
would
like
to
participate
before
we
turn
to
q.
A
do
you
have
any
more
observations,
comments
or
questions
for
staff
here.
B
And
but
the
trick
there
with
one-way
glass,
it's
got
to
be
a
heck
of
a
lot
brighter
in
there
than
it
is
out
here
for
that
one-way
feature
to
work,
and
that
might
be
something
that
we
can
talk
with
facilities
about
to
see.
If
we
can
do
something
too-
and
it
might
be
something
as
simple
as
using
spotlights,
but
that's
something
we
can
explore
anymore.
C
B
I
thought
it
was
cool
too,
but
I
just
wish
that
worked
better
yeah
anyway
Let's.
Let's
take
some
questions
from
members
of
the
of
the
audience
some
of
our
visitors.
Yes,
please
and
and
if
you
wouldn't
mind
identifying
yourself,
because
we
want
to
get
it
recorded
in
the
minutes.
Thank
you
for.
I
A
I've
been
a
citizen
of
Asheville
for
a
number
of
years
now
and
I
want
to
begin
by
expressing
my
gratitude
to
you,
the
Board
of
Elections.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
your
energy
and
your
challenge
to
make
our
elections
an
example
of
integrity.
A
You
will
be
bringing
the
needed
consequences
for
any
behaviors
that
took
place
in
the
past
election
that
were
in
a
violation
of
the
election
standards.
A
From
any
consequences,
who
are
wrong,
voices
that
we
make,
hopefully
the
painful
consequences
brought
about
what
will
bring
about
positive
changes
and
anything
that
was
lacking
in
standards?
A
A
A
What
I
did
was
on
Sunday
I
sent
you
this
electronically
with
concerns
that
we
have
I
know
that
Jan
black
presented
you
with
information
on
the
when
you
have
the
canvas,
and
at
that
time
you
acknowledge
the
fact
that
there
was
a
problem
with
illegal
election
year
and
the
way
I
understand
that
we,
you
finished,
is
that
you
are
going
to
investigate.
A
But
what
happens
during
early
voting
and
election
day
on
the
illegal
electioneering
we
want
to
know
who
did
this?
Who
said
it
was
okay?
Why
did
they
do
this?
How
did
it
happen?
Who
paid
for
the
materials?
When
did
the
Board
of
Elections
director
know
about
the
election
hearing?
What,
and
when
did
she
do
about
it
what's
been
done,
and
we
also
like
to
know
is
why
the
judges
on
the
side
of
Supervisors
involved
in
the
election
year
and
have
not
been
fired?
Why
is
the
board
not
even
handed
in
dealing
with
judges.
I
A
Observe
that
as
an
observer
and
as
a
voter
and
I
can
step
out
and
sure
oh
I'm,
sorry
so
I
am
here
to
I
was
going
to
make
the
point
myself.
I
wanted
to
know
what
happened.
If
that
was
in
fact
illegal
I
bought
I
reported
it
several
times
to
the
state
and
to
Jane's
organization,
and
some
lawyers
seem
to
think
it
was
acceptable,
but
I
hear
that
somebody
else
has
decided.
It
was
illegal
and
I
would
also
like
to
know
what
recourse
we
have.
A
You
know
just
because
and
and
I
go
along
with
what
James
says.
You
know
if
nobody
pays
a
price
for
this.
If
it
is
illegal,
it's
going
to
happen
again
so
I'm
not
saying
something
needs
to
be
executed,
but
some
reap
some
some
penalty
needs
to
be
paid
by
somebody,
so
that
this
doesn't
happen
yet.
B
I
think
Mr
Black
brought
this
to
the
board's
attention
on
canvas
day
on
November
18th
and
when
he
brought
it
to
our
attention.
We
put
it
on
the
agenda
and
we
had
a
discussion
at
that
meeting
on
the
18th
and
there
was
consensus.
There
was
unanimity.
There
wasn't
a
single
member
of
the
board
who
thought
that
it
was
appropriate.
B
B
B
B
The
way
the
process
works
is
if,
if
there
was
something
that
was
done,
that
violated
the
law
and
it
was
such
that
it
would
change
the
outcome
of
the
election,
then
that
election,
you
know
you
can
file
a
process
protest
and
that
election
can
be
challenged,
and
we
recall
what
happened
in
the
ninth
congressional
district
in
2018.,
they
re-ran
an
election
that
wasn't
conducted
properly,
as
Mr
Black
suggested
on
November,
18th
and
I
am
here
to
tell
you
that
I
agreed
with
him
I.
B
It
didn't
seem
that
there
was
any
activity
that
occurred
that
had
changed
the
outcome
of
the
election.
It
might
have
changed
margins,
but
it
was
a
very
overwhelming
yes
vote
on
both
questions
and
under
the
circumstances.
It
seemed
to
me
and
please
Mr
Black,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
in
my
surmise,
but
it
seemed
that
you
deemed
it
not
really
appropriate
or
worthwhile
to
file
a
formal
protest,
because
the
election
would
be
allowed
to
stand
that
that
I
am
I
getting
that
right.
Yes,
at.
G
The
time
it
was
a
two
to
one
vote
on
the
issue,
yes
very
difficult
to
overturn
that,
but
at
the
same
time
there
needs
to
be
an
investigation.
You
say
you
don't
know
what
happened.
I,
don't
know.
We
need
to
know
where
and
we
need
to
know
why
it
happened
and
who
participated.
There
may
not
be
a
consequences.
G
B
In
terms
of
the
clarity,
I
will
remind
you
that,
as
we
heard
on
November
18th
County
Legal
staff
reviewed
that
document
and
determined
that
it
was
not
inappropriate.
Now
it
happens
that
this
board
has
a
different
View,
but
I
do
want
folks
to
know
that
pains
were
taken
to
make
sure
that
it
did
get
legal
review.
B
This
wasn't
some
some
person
acting
as
a
free
agent
and-
and
you
know,
trying
to
do
something
underhanded
there
were.
There
were
any
number
of
people
who
did
take
a
look
at
this
before
here.
G
B
C
And
Mr
Quinn,
it's
worth
noting
that
we
didn't
as
a
board
participate
in
that
review.
That
is,
Staff
did
not
participate
in
that
review.
If
there's
a
question
to
be
asked
is
how
did
that
stuff
come
to
being
up
to
being
erected
in
the
polling
place?
And
that's
that's
a
that's
a
that's
a
that's,
a
question
that
rabbit
is
worth
chasing:
how
to
get
there
not
so
much.
What
is
it
or
did
it
change
the
election?
B
I
G
A
This
is
the
proposition.
If
someone
was
to
come
to
me
in
when
I'm
working
and
say.
Can
you
give
me
information
on
this
candidate
I
would
have
to
tell
them
to
go.
Look
for
that
information
that
I
could
not
do
that
and
if
I
this
did
not
happen
in
my
precinct,
because
that
was
my
voting
day.
So
I
understand
she
said
but
see.
I
have
the
question
because
I
take
notes
that
I'm
not
going
to
do
this
and
everybody
that
works
in
any
of
those
precincts
takes
that
thing
off.
B
No
I
I
agree
with
you.
There
was
a
miscommunication
and
I
think
the
miscommunication
hinged
on
the
fact
that
there
was
a
review
of
that
piece
of
paper
that
said
that
this
isn't
Pro.
This
isn't
Khan,
it's
not
partisan
one
way
or
the
other.
It's
just
enumerating
facts
and
it's
very
clear
that
different
members
of
the
community
have
a
different
view
of
that
fact,
and
that's
what
this
discussion
is
really
about
and
and
I
mean
I
I
get
it.
As
I
mentioned.
This
board
said
it's
inappropriate
shouldn't
happen.
E
I
do
so
because
there
are
people
who
are
at
the
meeting
that
were
at
the
at
canvas
meeting
where
we
did
discuss
this
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
few
things,
so
I
do
think
that
there
is,
if
that,
in
my
mind,
that
it's
not
clear
whether
the
you
know
what
the
piece
of
paper's
intention
was,
but
it
is
clear
that
we
don't
want
that
slippery
slope.
E
You
know
just
let's
just
avoid
it
all
together
and
so
our
department,
that
that
wasn't,
the
decision
that
that
was
made
from
the
top
down
to
have
this
documented
one
of
our
temporary
staff
made
that
decision
not
known
to
me
as
soon
as
I
learned
that
it
was
out
there.
It
was
you
know,
take
it
down,
and
so
that's
the
stance
of
what
we
I
think
would
be
productive.
E
For
us
to
talk
about
now
is
how
you
know
what
what
do
we
put
in
place,
and
one
very
simple
rule
that
our
department
can
make
is
anything
that
goes
into
that
following
location
has
to
be
approved
by
me.
It
doesn't
you
know,
no
one
can
make
those
decisions
so
that
that
is
absolutely
one
thing.
You
know
one
thing
that
we
we
can
have
that's
not
approved
by
the
State
Board
of
Elections
can
go
through
me.
E
Some
rules
like
that
that
we
can,
we
can
do
to
have
a
make
sure
that
we
have
safeguards
and
in
place
then.
So
we
don't
have
to
have
this
discussion
again,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
understood
what
what
the
stance
of
all
of
us
is,
so
that
we
we're
not
in
a
decision
of
you
know
whether
it
was
selectionary
and
whether
there
was
you
know
that
we
need
to
make
sure
it
doesn't
happen
in
the
future,
and
these
are
concrete
things
that
we
can
do
to
do.
That
and.
B
These
are
things
that
we
that
we
discussed
on
November
18th
at
our
board
meeting
when
this
was
brought
to
our
attention-
and
we
said
this
has
to
stop.
We
don't
want
to
see
this
anymore
and
that's
when
director
Duncan
said
it
makes
sense
for
her
to
do
a
review
of
everything
that
goes
into
the
binder
that
goes
out
to
the
election
sites.
So
this
board
is
very
concerned
about
the
issue
and
we
absolutely
are
determined
not
to
see
a
recurrence
of
it.
Yes,.
A
A
I
think
election
Integrity
is
very
important
and
I
would
never,
as
a
chief
judge
for
a
party
judge.
I
would
have
never
allowed
that
document
in
the
following
place.
So
that's
just
my
I
mean
it's
like
having
a
resume
of
a
candidate
lying
on
a
tape.
The
resume
might
not
be
advocating
that
you've
built
through
this
person,
but
it's
raising
the
profile
of
this
person,
and
it's
it's
suggesting
that
somebody
consider
this
person
and
I
I
appreciate
your
point
of
view.
Family
I
appreciate
your
call
to
action
on
this.
A
A
That
I
observed
at
so
I
thought
that
this
was
kind
of
a
renegade
situation
and
I
think
that
whoever
was
a
team
captain
at
that
point,
location
and
I,
don't
know
if
this
thing
was
at
more
than
one
I
only
saw
it
at
one,
but
I
didn't
vote
visit
every
polling
location,
whoever
that
team
captain
was
should
not
be
a
team
captain
again,
because
that
person
does
not
understand
the
oath
as
you
so
well.
C
G
G
The
County
Attorney
rendered
a
legal
opinion
United
by
somebody
that
was
injected.
Will
you
put
in
writing
director
so
that
everybody
that
got
into
actions
are
down
by
something
in
writing?
Knowing
that
all
these
things
have
to
come
to
you
I
guess
we
can
do
that.
Let
me
just
say
also
another
thing:
I
have
a
friend
that
was
a
priest
and
he
took
confessions
from
knights
and
he
said
it
was
like
he
helped
him
with
cotton.
G
Balls
and
I've
participated
in
monitoring
elections
in
New
Jersey
I
spent
a
week
in
Detroit
in
2020
and
coming
to
here
was
like
being
helpful
of
the
continent
was
compared
to
Vice.
Houston
people
got
a
very
good
system.
Thank
you.
I
was
very
pleased
with
what
I
personally
saw
I
went
around.
It
looked
at
a
bunch
of
different
things.
In
Newark
we
were
assaulted
by
crowds.
G
They
had
campaign
literature
right
on
the
table
where
you
would
sign
in
and
I
where
I
had
to
have
armed
guards
at
one
point
to
try
to
work
by
unreal
times.
If
I
was
there
and
I
came
here,
you
know
expecting
to
see
that
kind
of
stuff
when
I
get
on
here,
I
was
very,
very
impressed.
I
wanted
to
tell
you
if
it's
well
trained
in
where
they
seemed
to
be
a
good
thing.
B
B
We
had
over
a
thousand
members
of
this
community
pitch
in
to
make
the
election
work
smoothly
and
we
we
voted
80
of
our
registered
voters
and
it
went
smooth,
as
could
be
even
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic,
and
that
only
happens
when
so
many
hands
are
pitching
in
to
make
it
work.
And
no
it's
it's
a
wonderful
Community.
When
it
comes
to
elections.
I've
got
colleagues
across
the
state
who
are
very
envious
of
Buncombe
County.
A
And
how
we
asked
of
a
republican
election
official
to
leave,
because
that
were
on
Facebook
and
that
came
to
us
through
a
particular
process
that
we
all
got
to
hear
what
was
going
on.
There
was
actually
a
hearing.
Now
there's
mentioned
that
there's
some
a
democratic
election
official,
that's
doing
something
similar
and
I'd
like
to
know
about
it
and
I'm
sure
we
all
would.
Might
somebody
just
review
the
process
to
bring
that
to
our
attention
so
that
we
could
give
it
the
same
consideration
as
we
did
the
last
person
yeah.
B
B
You
fill
out
the
complaint
and
then
the
board
hears
the
complaint
and
when
we
heard
the
complaint
back
in
the
spring,
there
was
a
very,
very
lengthy
discussion
and
we
made
a
determination
and
and
moved
on
from
there.
Anyone
who
who
has
issues
with
anything
that
happens
in
the
elections
sphere.
There
are
ways
to
larger
protests,
logic
complaint.
You
know
Mr
Black
when
he
came
on
canvas
day
when
he
started
to
speak,
I
really
thought
that
he
was
all
set
to
to
file
an
election
protest.
B
I
was
wrong
and
he
told
me
no,
no,
no
I
don't
want
to
go
there,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
we
talk
about
this.
B
B
Anybody
can
come
into
a
meeting
and
raise
an
issue,
but
in
order
to
force
the
board
to
act
on
something
like
that
to
file
something
formal
and
and
we'll
do
it
we
have
had
in
2022,
we
have
had
voter
registration
challenges.
B
A
Wanted
to
add
that
I've
been
the
result
of
that
challenge
and
that
conversation
and
the
hearing
and
a
really
difficult
decision
was
that
our
training
staff
was
made
aware
of
the
necessity
to
make
sure
that
Dory
training
election
officials
understand
what
what
they
are
and
are
not
allowed
to
do.
And
for
how
long
does
your
you
just
acted,
not
campaign
during
election
time
or
is
it
all
year?
Long?
A
That's
our
immediate
clarification,
and
so
then
everyone
knows
because
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
ambiguity
and
people
do
things
and
they
they
just
don't
know
so
trying
to
make
it
so
people
really
do
know,
and
so
that
was
an
important
alcohol
I.
Think
of
that
whole
conversation
and
again
we
don't
want
any
party
supporting
candidates
openly
with
their
election
officials,
so
important,
Dallas
right.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Quinn
I
would
just
want
to
be
sure
that
those
presidents,
you
know
could
take
part
what
what
Miss
block
is
saying
that
I,
sometimes
I
think
there's
some
expectation
that
that
we're,
like
you,
know,
Walmart,
checking
our
employees
and
making
sure
that
they're
that
they're,
not
you,
know,
they're,
not
abusing
people
in
the
aisle
store
and
but
we've
we've
got
a
very
different
standard
here
and
that
we
are
obligated
to
to
give
due
process
to
every
would
give
them
give
our
workers
the
benefit
of
tooth
process
or
voters
have
benefited
due
process,
and
some
of
our
conversations
internally
and
externally,
since
I've
been
on
this
board,
have
have
really
delved
into
this.
C
C
It's
not
like
a
complaint
that
you
put
in
you
know
to
the
bank,
because
the
teller,
you
know
tripped
you
on
the
way
out
the
door
or
something
this
is
or
the
grocery
store.
You
know
this
is
we're
held
to
a
to
a
a
high
standard
of
due
process.
So
when
the
Democratic
party
made
the
complaint
against
this
election
official,
they
did
so
through
their
chair
and
you'll
recall
what
he
when
he
didn't
show
up
in
person
we
almost
shut
his
hearing
down
and
and
but
we
didn't
turn
him.
C
We
didn't
turn
him
away,
but
we
required
that
he
appeared
because
the
law
says
that
the
complainant
must
appear
so
that
the
accused
can
confront
their
accuser,
because
that's
what
due
process
is
all
about.
So
you
know
I
I,
think
you
know
if
I
might
speak
freely,
If
You're
Expecting.
If
anybody's
expecting
this
board
to
you
know
to
go
around
with
a
with
a
hose
and
start.
You
know,
cleaning
out
everything.
C
You
know
you're
going
to
be
waiting
in
vain,
but
if
you
want
to,
if,
if
you
are
aware
of
misconduct,
there
is
a
process
and
it
involves
due
process
and
that's
to
protect
everybody
so
that
we
don't
have
people
run
out
of
their
position
on
rumors
and
accusations
and
innuendos.
C
Is
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
bring
a
complaint
and
for
the
person
who's
complained
against
to
respond
to
that
and
I
would
like
to
think
that
we
would
never
discipline
or
remove,
or
otherwise,
you
know
even
say,
bad
things
about
an
election
worker
on
the
basis
of
rumors
and
innuendos,
get
them
substantiated,
bring
the
affidavit,
bring
the
complaint.
Do
the
process
get
it
out
of
that
realm
and
get
in
in
front
of
this
board,
because
we
are
obligated
to
follow
due
process
for
the
benefit
of
Voters
and
poll
workers
and
everyone
else.
C
So
it's
really
it's
apples
and
oranges
when
we're
talking
about
election
yearing
and
we're
talking
about
the
performance
of
The
Bull
of
the
poll
worker.
If
something
involves
a
poll
worker's
performance,
let's
you
know
bring
it
to
Due
Process,
because
that
protects
everybody,
and
that's
certainly
what
we've
been
encouraged
you
to
do.
C
What
I
hope
the
record
of
this
board
shows
is
that
when
something
is
is
brought
for
us
and
and
we
apply
due
process
to
it-
we
are
obsessive
and
compulsive
about
it,
and-
and
we
do
follow
that-
that's
one
of
the
things
I'm
very
pleased.
Having
after
having
come
on
this
board
because
I
think
there's
an
appreciation
for
that,
the
other
piece
that
I
hope
will
take
away
from
here
is
again
we're
always
concerned
with.
C
How
do
we
improve
our
staff
training
and
we
learn
from
from
the
complaints
that
were
brought
last
year
that
there
was
a
need
to
clarify
for
the
benefit
of
the
workers?
What
exactly
can
they
do,
and
can
they
not
do
because
the
law
is
very
clear,
I
mean
it
says
what
they
can
do
and
what
they
can't
do.
So
it
became
apparent
to
us
that
it
wasn't
clear
to
people.
So
that's
something
that
we're
going
to
try
to
do
better.
We're
going
to
we're
working
on
that
electioneering
is
probably
another
place.
C
We
can
do
a
little
work
and
some
practical
things
like
who
is
it
that's
responsible
to
police
the
area
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
material
that
doesn't
belong,
everybody's
busy
I
thought
you
were
going
to
take
care
of
it?
Well,
no
I
didn't
because
I
was
doing
something
over
here
and
it
didn't
really
seem
to
matter
much.
Well
guess
what
now
we
know.
C
So
that's
what
you'll
see
happening,
What,
You,
Won't
See
happen
is
that
this
board
is
going
to
gather
some
kind
of
a
informal
review
of
what
happened
and
then
go
and
and
then
and
then
go
pour
gasoline
on
somebody
or
help
them
with
whatever
I
guess
you
could
Pelt
them
with
with
cotton
balls,
but
soak
them
in
something
flammable,
and
then
it
set
them
on
fire.
But
but
we
will
respond
to
a
complaint,
timely
brought
that
gives
the
accused
a
chance
to
respond
and
and
have
the
benefit
of
due
process.
C
Well,
the
next
steps
that
I
would
suggest
if
I
might
respond
to
it
is
first
of
all
that
that
you
should
be
should
be
confident
to
come
forward
and
see
what
what
we've,
what
staff
does
and
what
we
do
as
a
board
to
our
training
process.
That
addresses
these
specific
things
and
one
way
that
you
do.
C
That
is
you
sign
up
and
you
work
as
a
poll
worker
and
you
go
listen
to
the
presentation
so
you'll
and
if
it's
something's
missing,
then
you
immediately
bring
that
to
the
intention
of
the
presenter
and
and
I
think
you'll
find
that
you'll
get
a
you'll,
get
an
immediate
response.
C
C
So
the
second
thing
is
is
about
again
that
they
would
have
an
appreciation
of
of
electioneering
and
as
well
as
campaigning.
What
is
it
that
the
can
do
and
they
can't
do
and
Jake
points
out
rightly
so
that
it's
a
little
squishy
and
and
it's
again
it's
one
of
those
things
that
it's
a
legal
matter
about
what
your
legal
Minds
will
differ,
but
we'll
do
the
best.
C
We
can
that's
all
we
can
do
and
finally,
as
far
as
what
will
happen
in
this
particular
case,
if
someone
has
a
complaint
to
bring
against
an
election
worker,
there's
a
process
there's
a
process
and
we
don't
try
them
in
this
meeting
informally.
We
try
them
formally,
starting
with
a
complaint,
starting
with
evidence.
That's
brought
forward
and
the
opportunity
to
hear
the
accuser
and
and
and
be
and
and
and
do
what
due
process
requires.
C
So
and
that's
you
know,
that's
where
we
as
a
board,
I,
think
and
I
think
you
joined
me
that
we
would
ask
of
you
as
a
public.
Is
that
you
take
advantage
of
that
process
and
and
and
and
don't
put
us
in
a
position
where
we
were
being
asked
to
bypass
it.
C
We
can't
we
can't,
because
you
could
be
the
next
person
who's
complaining
against,
and
you
wouldn't
want
that
to
happen
to
you
without
us
being
required
to
go
through
the
same
process
and
so,
but
believe
me,
everything
that's
said
in
here
is
going
to
be
taken
to
Heart.
C
B
C
C
Well,
you've
protested,
we've
protested,
An
Occurrence,
but
you
understand
how
do
we
get
our
hands
around?
That
is
as
a
board
I
mean
or
as
as
an
agency,
you
know,
we
can't
go
punish
the
county.
You
know
what
what
would
you
do?
You
know
if
you
caught
the
cow
if
the
dog
caught
the
car,
what
would
he
do
with
it?
C
You
know
so,
but
if
there's
a
if
there's
a
performance
of
individual
people
that
we
have
jurisdiction
over,
that
is
to
say
the
election
officials
themselves,
then
follow
the
due
process
and
and
and
and
and
and
deal
with
it
through
that
complaint
process
that
is
directed
at
a
person's
conduct,
and
that's
you
know
the
where,
as
far
as
dealing
with
the
situation
in
general,
you
just
heard
it
we're
going
to
deal
with
it
with
education
and
deal
with
it
again.
C
What's
our
process
on
that
at
this
point,
I
mean
remember
if
you're
going
to
complain
about
just
the
general
idea
that
something
was
posted
in
the
election:
okay,
okay,
well,.
B
Well,
in
in
fussing
about
the
electioneering,
I
think
what
you're?
What
you're
saying
is
that
the
outcome
of
the
election
was
influenced
by
this
activity
that
should
not
have
occurred
and
the
deadline
for
filing
that
was
122..
It
was
5
p.m.
On
November
22nd,
which
was
two
business
days
after
canvas.
Please
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
on
that
one.
B
He's
got
the
red
book
memorized,
not
true,
I,
don't,
but
no
I
looked
at
that,
because
I
mean
Mr.
Black
certainly
called
my
attention
to
this
matter.
Real
fast
and
I
was
real
concerned
about
this,
and
so
you
know,
I
took
a
look
at
it
and
I
and
I
saw
the
rules
for
election
protest
and
that's
why?
When
Mr
Black
first
rose
on
canvas
morning
and
and
started
to
talk
about
this
I
told
him
that
he
was.
B
He
was
not
in
order
for
filing
an
election
protest
because
he
had
to
wait
for
canvas
to
be
finished
before
he
could
file
the
protest.
And
that's
when
Mr
Black
told
me.
No,
no,
that's
not
the
road
I'm
going
down,
but
I'm
real
concerned
about
these
actions
that
were
taken
and
then
we
ended
up
having
the
best
practice.
But.
C
Mr,
if
I
might
be
again
might
be
clear
here,
you
know
there's
two
different
things
going
on
here
and
they're
very
important
to
understand
the
distinction.
One
is
the
impact
on
the
election
generally
and
that's
dealt
with
the
process,
for
that
is
to
timely
file,
an
election
protest
and
then
the
question
becomes
first
of
all,
you
know
was
there
blood?
Is
it
because
there's
no
blood,
there's
no
foul?
C
C
Then
there's
the
question
of
election
nearing,
which
is
potentially
a
misdemeanor
crime,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
but
you
see
what's
happened
there
now
we're
talking
about
you,
gotta
name
names,
somebody's
got
to
name
names
and
and
if
we're
and
if
so,
if
you're
asking
the
board
to
go
back
and
name
names,
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
happen.
If
you
have
to
name
names
yourself,
there
is
a
process
for
doing
that
now,
I'm
speaking
for
myself
individually
at
this
point,
but.
B
But
that,
but
that
there
is
that
third
element-
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
lessons
that
the
board
and
staff
learned
from
this
episode
and
changing
training
and
being
hyper
Vigilant
about
this
sort
of
activity
and
also
you
know,
I'm,
expecting
director
Duncan
to
mention
this
at
a
Department's
head
at
a
Department's
head
meeting
in
in
County
government
and
say:
look
we
don't
do
this
and
that
is
I
think
that's
very,
very
important
for
this
board
going
forward
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
see
it
happen
again.
Yes,
sir.
C
Yeah
we
have
to
go
back
and
look
I
mean
there's
I
mean
the
statute
is,
is
does
have
some
free
specific
that
who
enforces
these
things
and
what's
the
power
of
enforcement?
For
one
thing,
the
chief
judge
can
contact
the
sheriff
if
I
understand
right
I
mean
I
mean
there.
There
is
a
process
for
dealing
with
misconduct
election
day
and
dealing
with
it
immediately.
True.
C
B
We
heard
about
the
legal
review
only
when
Mr
Black
raised
this
issue
at
canvas
staff
was
able
to
give
us
some
background
information,
and
that's
when
we
heard
that
a
member
of
legal
staff
in
the
county
attorney's
office
had
reviewed
this
document
and
had
determined
that
it
wasn't
speaking
in
favor
or
an
opposition.
C
B
B
Don't
think
we
were
being
I,
don't
think
anyone
was
given
a
formal
legal
opinion.
I
think
that
a
document
was
reviewed
by
an
attorney
in
the
legal
department,
not
with
not
with
the
view
towards.
Is
this
appropriate
or
inappropriate
from
an
electioneering
standpoint,
but
is
this
a
neutral
or
is
this
biased
and
and
I?
Don't
think
that
when
they
were
reviewing
the
document
that
they
were
giving
full
consideration
to
everything
that
we're
concerned
about-
and
that
is
electioneering
Pro
con?
B
B
You
call
the
sheriff
okay,
but
I
I.
Our
the
nuclear
option
is
not
our
first
option.
It
is
our
last
option
and
calling
the
sheriff
is
the
nuclear
option.
What
you
do,
if
you
see
something
amiss,
let's
say
you're
a
voter
in
the
precinct,
and
you
see
this
thing
and
go
that
shouldn't
happen.
What
do
you?
Do
you
talk
to
the
chief
judge
and
if
you
don't
get
satisfaction
from
the
chief
judge,
talk
to
the
talk
to
your
party
judge,
get
the
three
judges
talking
together,
figure
it
out.
You.
I
G
G
G
B
Well,
I
want
you
to
know.
It
is
on
record
here
at
Board
of
Elections.
We
just
approved
the
minutes
of
our
November
18th
meeting
where
Mr
Black
made
his
presentation,
and
we
had
a
discussion
that
is
all
reflected
in
our
minutes
and
those
will
be
posted
on
our
website
before
you
know
it
I
mean
we're
not
trying
to
hide
anything.
We
are
not
happy
about
what
happened,
and
all
this
episode
did
was
create
more
work
for
all
of
us.
We
don't
like
that.
We're
busy
enough.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
A
B
B
You
might
have
heard
about
a
rulemaking
that
the
State
Board
of
Elections
did
last
fall
that
got
thrown
out.
That
rulemaking
was
exactly
what
you're
asking
for,
and
it
is
my
expectation
that
the
State
Board
of
Elections
will
once
again
pursue
establishing
the
rules
that
you
are
seeking
exactly
and
until
then
we
will
review
things
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
as
we
did
in
the
past.
But
if
there,
if
there's
a
new
set
of
rules
handed
down,
you
can
bet
your
bottom
dollar
that
this
board
will
follow
them
to
the
letter.
B
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
have
any
more
questions
or
comments.
Is
there
any
more
business
to
come
before
this
board
this
evening?
Caring
none?
This
meeting
is
adjourned
at
6
55.
Everyone.
Thank
you
for
caring,
thank
you
for
wanting
for
insisting
on
elections
with
Integrity,
because
that's
what
we're
all
here
for
and
we
all
want
the
same
thing.