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From YouTube: Buncombe News Update :: Land of Sky - Ozone Kickoff
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Join BCTV, as we attend the 2012 Land of Sky Ozone Kickoff to find out whats going on in Buncombe's world of going green.
A
With
this
workshop
and
press
conference,
as
you
all
know,
state-issued
air
quality
forecasts
for
ground-level
ozone
pollution
will
begin
this
weekend
and
these
forecasts
can
be
accessed
by
logging
on
to
the
States
Air
awareness
website
or
Thor
get
those
through
media
outlets
as
well
and
paul
moller,
with
the
state
division
brcall
to
be
telling
us
a
little
bit
more
about
this
forecast
and
how
they're
determined
in
his
presentation
today.
As
you
all
know,
air
quality
has
been
an
issue
in
our
region
for
several
decades.
Air
pollution
can
impact
our
health,
our
economy
and
our
environment.
A
So
we
must
take
proactive
measures
to
minimize
these
impacts.
As
you
all
know,
the
region
is
growing
growing
fast.
This
growth
is
resulting
in
more
cars
and
trucks,
on
the
roads,
more
homes
and
buildings
to
heat,
and
not
to
mention
all
the
lawn
mowers,
weed
eaters
and
blowers
as
well.
To
keep
up
with
all
this
growth,
we
must
take
action
to
reduce
our
energy
consumption,
find
cleaner
energy
sources
and
reduce
emissions
from
our
vehicles
and
equipment.
A
The
good
news
is
that
action
is
being
taken
by
many
different
groups
in
the
region
to
address
these
problems
and
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
a
few
examples
of
what's
being
done
on
several
years
back.
The
North
Carolina
legislature
passed
them
in
landmark
environmental
legislation,
known
as
the
North
Carolina,
clean
smokestacks
act
and
implementation
of
that
active
resulted
in
very
significant
omission.
A
Ductions
from
the
coal-fired
power
plants
here
in
North
Carolina
and
our
local
progress
energy
plan
here
in
Asheville,
has
already
reduced
its
emission
significantly
and
is
one
of
the
cleanest
power
plants
in
the
state.
We
also
expect
emission
reductions
in
other
neighboring
states
through
various
state
and
federal
actions,
and
we
will
hear
more
about
that
today,
especially
from
John
Myers
of
TVA.
A
The
state
of
North
Carolina
established
a
green
power
program
several
years
ago
and
also
a
renewable
energy
portfolio
standard,
and
these
are
increasing
the
use
of
renewable
and
cleaner
energy
sources
and
you've
seen
all
of
the
solar
solar
power
systems
that
have
been
springing
up
across
the
region,
including
the
huge
solar
array
on
the
biltmore
estate.
So
we're
really
excited
about
the
growth
of
the
solar
industry.
Here
in
Western
North
Carolina.
A
We
also
have
cleaner
diesel
engines
and
cleaner
diesel
fuel.
It's
lowering
emissions
from
our
diesel
vehicles
and
local
action
is
also
being
taken.
The
Western
North
Carolina
air
quality
agency
several
years
back
received
some
grants
and
retrofitted
school
buses
in
all
five
of
the
school
systems
in
our
in
our
area.
They've
retrofitted,
those
with
diesel
oxidation
catalysts
to
reduce
particular
matter,
and-
and
this
is
especially
going
to
benefit
the
health
of
our
of
our
students,
especially
those
riding
the
buses.
A
The
school
systems
also
implemented
some
anti-idling
policies
and
that
that's
helping
as
well-
and
there
are
many
efforts
to
get
our
citizens
to
strive,
not
to
drive
or
drive
more
efficiently
and
strive,
not
to
drive.
Events
will
be
coming
up
in
May,
the
city
of
Asheville
and
North
Carolina
Department
of
Transportation
are
coordinating
a
regional
rideshare
program
to
reduce
vehicle
emissions
and
to
save
fuel
in
the
d-o-t,
constructed
additional
park-and-ride
facilities
in
the
region
recently
and
they're.
A
Getting
a
lot
of
use
I've
been
following
the
the
use
of
the
new
park
and
ride
facility
on
I-40
at
the
newfound
accident,
Wood
County,
and
when
it
first
opened
just
a
couple
of
cars,
we're
using
it
and
the
other
day
but
passed
by
and
there
must
have
been
20
cars
there.
I
don't
think
there
was
an
empty
space
available.
So
with
the
price
of
gas,
people
are
taking
advantage
of
those
park-and-ride
lots
and
we
hope
to
expand
those
in
the
near
future.
A
City
of
Asheville
also
launched
a
vanpool
program
and
afford
a
tenor
or
work
week
several
years
ago
to
reduce
energy
consumption
emissions
in
their
carbon
footprint.
We
saw.
We've
also
got
businesses,
schools
and
local
governments
taking
action
to
reduce
their
energy
consumption
through
the
use
of
green
building,
designs,
energy
conservation
measures,
renewable
energy
projects
and
greener
fleets,
and
the
good
news
is
that
these
projects
are
creating
and
retaining
jobs
in
our
region,
which
is
very
important.
A
Today,
volando
sky,
Regional,
Council
advantage
West
and
many
other
partners
are
working
together
to
grow
our
local,
green
or
clean
energy
economy
and
to
create
more
jobs
while
reducing
emissions
and
to
learn
more
about
our
evolved
energy
partnership
project.
You
can
pick
up
one
of
the
brochures
outside
on
the
table
or
you
can
see
Patrick
Harper
here
at
the
council
who's
coordinating
that
effort.
A
Excuse
me,
with
the
North
Carolina
division
of
air
quality,
paul
moller
and
keith
Bamberger,
with
the
land
of
sky,
clean
vehicles
coalition,
our
fleet
consultant
chris
Dobbins
and
brian
taylor,
who
is
managing
our
electric
vehicles
program
and
progress,
energy
Gary
Wilson
it
in
Lori
Morehead.
Thanks
for
being
here,
we
appreciate
progress,
energy
support
of
our
efforts
over
the
years.
I
also
especially
want
to
thank
buncombe
county
government
TV
for
taking
the
event
today.
They've
been
real
good
about
doing
that
a
year
for
us
and
helping
to
spread
the
message.
A
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
there
will
be
some
additional
media
coverage
beyond
the
work
of
the
folks
that
are
here
today.
I
understand
that
waynesville
Mountaineer
will
be
taking
information
from
this
and
doing
an
article,
clear
channel,
radio
and
the
astral
radio
group
both
will
be
doing
stories
as
well.
Silver
of
our
speakers
will
be
leaving
here
to
tape.
A
30-minute
program
over
a
clear
channel
will
be
airing
this
weekend.
Alright,
so
I'd,
let's
just
go
through
the
audience
and
anyone
else.
A
A
B
B
A
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
appreciate
everybody
coming
out
today.
I
want
to
take
just
a
few
minutes
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
air
quality
programs
here
at
landis
sky.
We
established
the
regional
clean
air
campaign
13
years
ago
to
increase
public
awareness
and
action
on
air
quality,
and
our
campaign
partners
are
working
together
to
encourage
energy
efficiency
and
reduced
or
cleaner
driving
through
our
various
campaign
messages,
and
the
good
news
is:
we've
seen
a
real
increasing
awareness
in
action
as
a
result
of
all
that
work.
A
Thanks
to
the
hard
work
of
all
of
our
outreach
partners,
and
especially
the
help
of
the
media,
which
has
been
very
helpful.
We
also
launched
the
land
of
sky
clean
cities
project
about
seven
years
ago
to
promote
the
use
of
alternative
fuel
vehicles
and
advanced
technology
vehicles
and
we're
seeking
Clean
Cities
designation
from
the
US
Department
of
Energy
for
a
five-county
area
around
asheville,
and
we
expect
to
achieve
that
special
designation
later
this
year.
We're
really
pleased
with
all
of
the
interest
in
alternative
fuels
and
cleaner
vehicles.
I've
got
a
few
examples.
A
The
city
of
Asheville
has
been
a
real
leader
in
this
area:
the
use
of
alt
fuels.
The
city
began
using
compressed
natural
gas
vehicles
several
years
ago
and
Chris
Dobbins
who's.
Here
when
he
was
with
the
city,
opened
the
region's
first
publicly
accessible
CNG
fueling
station
in
downtown
Asheville.
We've
got
a
second
public
access.
Cng
station
down
in
arden
on
hendersonville
road
in
Henderson.
County
recently
opened
the
third
public
access
station
in
Hendersonville
to
fuel
the
city
and
the
county's
growing
fleet
of
CNG
vehicles.
A
Mission
Hospital
has
bought
a
fleet
of
cng-powered
and
electric
vehicles
showing
their
commitment
to
cleaner
air
and
improved
health.
Here
in
Western,
North
Carolina
AT&T
deployed
16
CNG
vehicles
a
couple
years
ago
in
their
Asheville
fleet
altec
eco
energy
is
converting
vehicles
to
natural
gas
right
here
in
Buncombe,
County
and
they've
received
epa
certification
to
convert
several
ford
vehicles,
including
the
transit
connect
in
several
Ford
pickups
and
bands.
A
We've
been
working
very
closely
with
them,
we're
fortunate
to
have
them
right
here
in
the
backyard
blossom
and
gas
and
Alliance
auto
gas
are
working
to
convert
several
fleets
to
propane
fuel.
Mountain
mobility,
bunkin
county's
community
transportation
system
partnered
with
these
organizations
to
convert
10
shuttle
vans
to
propane
significantly
reducing
their
emissions
and
their
fuel
costs
and
mountain
ability
also
purchased
12
CNG
shuttle
buses
last
year,
so
they've
been
a
real
leader.
A
Right
now,
we've
got
about
10
biodiesel
stations
in
the
region,
city
of
Asheville,
Black,
Mountain,
montreat,
a
vtec
Haywood,
Community
College
and
several
others
are
using
low
speed.
Electric
vehicles
in
Buncombe,
County
and
many
other
entities
are
using
gas-electric
hybrids
to
save
on
fuel
and
to
cut
their
emissions
and
Blue
Ridge
community
college
has
recently
launched
a
new
alternative
fuel
vehicle
training
program
to
Train,
mechanics
and
also
first
responders.
A
All
these
entities
are
working
together
through
our
regional,
clean
vehicles
coalition,
and
we
encourage
anyone,
that's
interested
to
join
our
coalition
get
involved.
Our
most
recent
program
is
our
plug-in
electric
vehicle
readiness
initiative
to
get
communities
ready
for
the
rollout
of
the
new
high-speed
electric
vehicles
like
the
nissan
leaf
and
the
chevy
volt,
and
we're
getting
communities
ready
by
helping
them
to
put
in
electric
vehicle
charging
systems.
A
Last
year,
we
partnered
with
advanced
energy
in
Raleigh,
to
secure
some
state
grant
funds
that
helped
some
of
our
stakeholders
install
13
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
in
the
region.
Just
this
past
December,
and
by
wheels
RTS
use
some
green
business
fund
support
to
construct
solar,
integrated
charging
stations
at
four
locations
so
that
we
can
all
drive
on
sunshine
and
Matt.
Johnson
will
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
those
later.
A
We're
also
very
pleased
to
have
the
eaton
corporation
right
here
in
arden.
That's
manufacturing
these
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
and
creating
clean
energy
jobs
over
the
next
year
or
electric
vehicles
committee
will
use
some
Department
of
Energy
support
to
develop
a
regional
and
a
statewide
plan
for
deploying
more
of
these
plug-in
vehicles
and
charging
stations
and
Brian
will
be
leading
that
project.
A
There
are
several
grant
opportunities
out
there
to
help.
You
green
your
fleet,
including
the
Department
of
Energy
epa,
state,
division
of
air,
quality
of
State,
Energy,
Office
and
others,
and
we
can
help
you
can
secure
those
funds
for
those
projects
that
we
encourage
you
to
give
us
a
call
and
get
involved
in
our
coalition
again.
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
coming
out
today.
A
At
this
time,
it's
my
pleasure
to
introduce
John
Myers
John
is
the
director
of
environmental
policy
and
performance
with
the
Tennessee
Valley
Authority
and
John's,
going
to
tell
us
about
eep,
eep
eep.
Excuse
me
TVA's
emission
reduction
program,
John
thanks
so
much
for
coming
over
from
Tennessee
and
being
with
us
today,
I.
We
had
you
over
here
about
six
years
ago,
so
it
was
time
to
get
an
update,
yeah
all
right.
Thank
you.
Bill
Thank.
B
You,
certainly
pleasure
being
up
here
with
you
today.
It's
always
a
pleasure
that
get
up
into
the
Asheville
region
in
Western,
North
care,
lana
and
we've
had
some
great
debates
and
some
good
good
progress,
and
there
is
certainly
a
feel
about
this
meeting
and
the
laundry
list
of
things
that
bill
was
talking
about
all
the
great
things.
You've
got
going
that
and
really
seeing
up
here
on
some
charts
of
good
trends
and
air
quality.
B
So
let
me
just
kind
of
move
through
a
couple
of
slides,
I'll
kind
of
just
get
in
a
little
bit
about
TVA
and
2010.
Our
board
of
directors
set
out
a
vision
to
be
one
of
the
nation's
leading
providers
in
flow
coughs,
cleaner
energy
by
2020,
and
we
we've
put
that
in
really
three
main
buckets
low
rates,
because
that
Spurs
economic
development
to
make
the
types
of
investments
for
a
greener
to
get
the
kind
of
investments
we
need
to
for
continued
progress.
B
Make
sure
that
that
power
to
deliver
with
high
reliability
and
that
power
is
delivered
responsibly.
We
did
break
that
down
also
in
cleaner
areas.
One
of
the
major
vision
focus
parts
of
our
of
our
program
and
then,
as
we
look
at
adding
supply,
we
focus
some
more
on
nuclear
on
the
supply
side
and
greater
efficiency
on
the
demand
side
management.
So
that's
the
little
bit
of
the
context
of
division.
B
The
yard
sticks
by
which
we
judge
clean
air
improvements
are
certainly
getting
more
stringent,
but
the
trends
in
air
quality
are
are
there
and
we
can
talk
about
that.
I
thought
we'd
show
a
little
bit
and
I
know
this.
Is
the
ozone
kick
off,
but
I
would,
I
would
was
going
to
show
a
few
slides
on
particulate
matter
and
if
you
look
up
in
the
upper
left
upper
right,
these
data
that
are
here
are
from
kind
of
this
central
this
area,
it's
the
air
quality
monitors
that
are
in
the
region.
That's
shown
up
here.
B
You
can
see
our
power
plants
kind
of
the
centroid
of
that
thing,
western
north
carolina
kinda
on
the
Eastern
Band,
but
you
can
see
with
annual
pm10
standard.
That's
the
standard,
and
certainly
air
quality
has
been
half
of
that
for
a
long
time
and
shows
improving
trends
with
a
slight
uptick,
PM,
2.5
or
fine
particle
standards,
which
really
looks
a
lot
drives
a
lot
of
the
so2
efficient
strategies
for
utilities.
You
can
see
with
a
15
standard
regionally,
we
are
over
it
back
in
the
late
90s.
B
But
you
can
see
this
really
is
a
great
progress.
You
can
see
the
downward
print.
Certainly
from
year
to
year,
we
can
have
some
meteorology
that
changes
those
concentrations,
but
overall
the
trends
are
certainly
coming
down.
You
can
see
the
97
standard
at
84
parts
per
billion.
We
are
now
implementing
a
2008
standard,
that's
at
seven
five
parts
per
billion,
and
you
can
see
that
regionally
we're
doing
much
better,
but
a
new
standard
is
coming
and
we'll
see.
B
Where
put
that
ring
said,
and
that
will
certainly
have
to
drive,
that
will
certainly
have
to
keep
us
doing
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
and
that
that
that
really
goes
back
to
what
bill
bills
introductory
speech
was,
and
it
was.
It
was
great
to
note
all
the
different
things
that
were
going
on,
but
there
was
electric
vehicles
whether
it
was
looking
at
industrial
sources,
utility
sources.
B
It
really
looks
at
all
those
things
for
continued
air
quality
improvements
and
certainly
as
we
from
TVA
standpoint,
we
are
trying
to
engage
multiple
in
that
to
make
sure
that
all
sore
sectors
are
reduced.
We
get
into
more
about
some
of
our
power
plant
emissions,
but
we
too
are
looking
at
electric
vehicles.
It
was
great
of
enjoying
some
of
the
fruits
of
your
labors
I
drove
the
Chevy
Volt
up
here
from
Chattanooga
made
it
from
Chattanooga
to
Asheville
on
three
gallons
of
gasoline.
B
It's
out
being
charged
right
now,
as
we
talk
by
a
little
bit
of
sunshine,
a
beautiful
Western,
North
Carolina
sunshine
this
morning.
So
that's
a
I'm
glad
that's
working
and
then
we're
working
with
area
and
industrial
sources
on
greater
greater
energy
efficiencies
trying
to
improve
their
their
ability
to
provide
products
with
less
energy
use.
B
So
it
takes
a
village
to
keep
a
clean
air
moving
forward,
but
back
to
utility
sources
and
what's
coming
in
and
driving
actions
around
our
sources,
I'm
going
to
go
a
little
bit
through
some
of
the
rules
that
are
shaping
that
and
then
how
that
wove
into
the
fabric
of
what
TBA
is
up
to
and
where
we're
headed,
there's
three
main
or
there's
I
put
three
major
sources
of
rules
coming
out
of
EPA
that
continue
to
keep
utilities
focused
on
greater
environmental
improvement.
When
is
the
cross-state
air
pollution
rule?
B
B
We
think
little
litigations
ongoing
that,
but
there's
a
good
likelihood
that
that
rule
is
going
to
get
back
on
the
tracks
right
now.
The
Clean
Air
interstate
rule
is
a
cumplir
complying
with
it
it's
back
and
forth,
but
we
think
GPA
is
probably
going
to
get
the
cross-state
air
pollution
rule
back
on
the
track,
somehow
in
some
form,
and
we
see
that
continuing
to
move
forward.
B
Would
let
me
go
back
the
one
I
wanted
to
talk
to
a
little
bit
that
the
the
utility
MACT
or
that's
maximum
achievable
control
technology,
or
it's
also
called
right
now,
as
EPA
put
it
up
the
mercury
and
air
toxic
rules.
That
really
is
a
major
rulemaking
that
came
out
in
December
was
released
out
in
on
December.
First
it
will.
Our
21st
excuse
me
we'll
have
to
start
complying
with
that
in
April
2015
and
it
is
a
very
stringent
rule
and
it
sets
specific
limits
for
hazardous
air
pollutants
at
each
and
every
source.
B
So
there's
not
system
averaging,
there's
not
other
things.
It
is
a
it's
a
major
rulemaking
that
a
lot
of
folks,
a
lot
of
utilities,
will
be
putting
their
clean
air
capital
very
closely
to
make
sure
that
that
the
fleet
can
maintain
standards
with
this
stringent
rule
of
timings,
tight,
April
2015
comes
around
pretty
quick
and
there
is
an
available
one
year
extra
year
if
you
are
installing
control
equipment
or
other
replacement
generation
and
transmission
upgrades.
B
But
that's
a
major
rulemaking
we're
focused
on
when
you
look
at
where
we've
come
and
where
we're
going,
and
some
of
that
you
can
see.
Emissions
of
so2
from
the
70s
is
way
down.
Where
2011
we
are
we're
getting
pretty
low
down
there
around
to
200,000
tons
of
emissions
in
basically
in
so2
and
NOx.
Ninety
percent
reductions
off
of
highs,
our
nox
reduction,
certainly
began
in
the
mid
90s
and
we've
had
steady,
systematic
reductions
in
2009,
making
some
major
reductions
and
now
we've.
B
Think
the
some
of
the
points
of
this
one
is
is
that
the
cost,
a
lot
of
the
cost-effective
reductions
have
taken
place
further
progress
is,
is,
will
demand
a
lot
of
capital
expense
and
we'll
get
into
some
of
that
I
thought
I
would
since
we're
over
in
Western
North
Carolina
I
thought
I
would
just
kind
of
look
at
the
fleet
of
plants
that
we've
got
on
the
eastern
side
of
our
system
and
kind
of
just
tell
you
a
snap.
Instead
of
going
through
the
whole
laundry
list,
I'd
give
you
a
little
snapshot.
B
The
bottom
line
you
can
see
on
both
annual
knots
and
ozone
seas
and
knocks
that
we're
down
we're
we're
pets
are
pretty
well
control.
Flea
we've
got
John
Sevier
plant,
that's
up
Rogersville
Tennessee,
that
plant
we
are
building
a
combined
cycle,
gas
turbine
right
next
to
it,
and
that
we've
announced
a
retirement
on
that
plan.
B
Our
bull
running
Kingston
plants
are
equipped
with
state-of-the-art,
selective
catalytic
reduction
systems
that
reduce
so2
on
that
we
are
under
construction
with
watts
bar
unit
2,
which
will
be
over
a
thousand
megawatts
of
base,
loaded,
clean
generation,
and
then
at
widows
Creek.
We
have
seven
units
down
there.
Excuse
me
eight
units
down
there,
six
of
them
have
announced
retirement
and
then
and
we've
got
a
retirement
schedule
for
them,
and
our
widows
Creek,
seven
and
eight
units
are
controlled
with
a
modern,
selective
catalytic
reduction
system.
B
What
do
we,
what
we
want
to
do?
So
we
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
scenarios.
We
looked
at
you
know.
Some
of
the
big
question
marks
that
you
have
is,
what's
going
to
be
future
demand,
how
much
electricity
out
in
the
future
is
going
to
serve
the
valleys
needs.
So
we
looked
at
situations
where
the
economy
has
robust
growth
and
demand
continues
to
grow.
We've
looked
at
situations
where
demand
stays
really
relatively
modest.
We
looked
at
high
gas
prices
and
fuel
prices,
low
gas
prices.
B
Some
of
our
units
did
not
merit
further
investment
in
clean
air
controls
and
some-
and
so
that's
why
we've
made
some
announcements
we're
looking
that
natural
gas
is
an
intermediate
supply
source
would
be
there
so
more
of
the
combined
cycle.
Natural
cycle,
natural
gas-fired
sources,
certainly
would
be
coming
in,
but
that
certainly
energy
efficiency
and
demand
response
needed
to
be
a
central
tenet
of
any
system
planning
and
then
a
renewable
energy.
B
Certainly
it
has
a
play
to
placing
a
role,
move
and
I'll
show
you
where
we're
doing
on
that
and
that,
certainly,
as
we
look
at
how
our
system
is
configured
where,
if
you
think
about
the
power
grid-
and
you
make
the
analogy
to
a
circus,
tent,
you've
got
poles
that
are
supplying
the
tent
and
you
got
the
tent
up.
Well,
if
you
shut
this
plant
down,
you
still
got
to
prop
up
the
net
somehow.
B
So,
as
we
look
at
the
lot
of
the
systems
with
a
lot
of
retirement
sand,
a
lot
of
the
change
in
demand
that
we're
seeing
we're
seeing
on
our
system
that
demands
a
little
peek
here
that
the
highs
are
a
little
higher
and
the
lows
are
a
little
lower.
So
in
a
day's
time
we
could
have
really
high
demand
and
really
low
demand
at
any
one
time.
So
to
manage
a
lot
of
that
pumped
hydro
storage
capacity
really
showed
its
value.
B
Now,
whether
we'll
make
the
investment
in
that
that's
to
be
seen,
but
those
types
of
systems
of
pump
storage
really
showed
some
bit
offense
to
our
transmission
fleet.
So,
as
we
move
is
we
think
about
energy,
and
we
think
about
our
system.
We
we've
tended
to
call
this.
The
Greenpeace
lied,
but
you
you
can
see
that
this
is
the
total,
if
you
think
about
it.
This
is
in
energy.
This
is
in
megawatt
hour
or
gigawatt
hours.
B
This
is
the
total
amount
of
energy
that
we
provide
for
the
valley
we
see
the
dotted
line
is
that's
kind
of
the,
but
for
energy
efficiency
we
would
have
had
even
been
bigger,
but
we're
shrinking
that
through
energy
efficiency,
so
we're
trying
to
get
that
dotted
line
the
blue
side
we're
trying
to
add
to
that
energy
efficiency.
This
is,
if
affect
the
green,
is
basically
coal-fired
power,
if
you
think
about
that
in
our
clean
energy
defined,
and
that's
where
we're
really
looking
at
it.
It's
low
carbon
sources,
so
its
nuclear,
its
hydro,
its
renewable
entered.
B
We
have
that
here
and
then
certainly
as
we
look
down
here
in
renewables
with
where
we
talk
our
hydro,
electric
capacity
plus
wind,
solar
and
other
renewables
fit
in
this
funk
chunk.
So
we
are
as
we're
moving
the
the
blues
going
to
be
reduced
and
the
clean
energy
is
going
to
move
for.
Excuse
me,
let
me
back
up
just
a
little
bit.
So
how
does
that
translate
to
a
to
a
look
at
the
fleet
across
the
valley
and
I
won't
go
through
all
these
battles
show
generally
the
trend
we
have
made
some
announcements.
B
We've
announced
that
John
Sevier
will
be
retired
and
we're
building
a
gas
combined
cycle
right
there
and
I'll
show
you
a
picture
of
that.
In
a
minute,
and
again
we
talked
about
watts
bar
that's
currently,
under
construction,
we've
announced
that
we're
going
to
continue,
we've
got
scrubbers
and
SCRs
on
bull,
bull,
run
and
Kingston
and
Cumberland
and
paradise
so
we're
continuing
to
keep
those
plants
in
the
fleet.
We've
announced
retirement
of
johnsonville
parts
of
widows
Creek
and
we're
continuing
to
study
a
couple
of
plants,
Shawnee
and
culvert.
B
B
It's
a
greener
system
with
lower
air
emissions,
lower
co2
emissions,
part
of
what
we've
added
is
a
gas
conveyor,
natural
gas
combustion
turbines,
and
these
are
certainly
we're
building
the
one
in
Upper,
East
Tennessee,
and
then
we've
got
some
Mississippi
and
then
West,
Tennessee
and
Lagoon
Creek
I,
don't
know
if
anybody's
been
watching
the
price
of
natural
gas
lately,
but
it
has
been
hitting
rock
bottom
22
dollars
and
something
a
million
BTUs.
That
is
any.
B
That
is
an
incredibly
low
price
for
energy,
so
it's
been
caught
and
it's
been
causing
some
unusual
things
on
the
utility
side.
You'll
see
coal
plants
that
would
generally
dispatch
that
are
being
idled
while
gas
plants
are
coming
online
and
and
so
that
compendium
curve
of
what
comes
up
to
meet
load.
Natural
gas
has
certainly
jumped
in
there
and
the
Nate,
and
that's
not
just
on
the
TV
a
system
that's
across
the
region.
B
So
we
are
certainly
right
now
using
a
little
more
natural
gas
that
and
we
had
previously
planned,
but
we're
burning
a
lot
less
cold
than
we
had
planned
here.
I'll
just
this
is
a
now
show
and
tell
this
is
the
John
Sevier
site
and
Upper
East
Tennessee
near
our
near
Rogersville
Tennessee.
This
is
the
coal-fired
plant
right
here.
That's
a
34
units,
basically
at
eight
hundred
megawatt
coal-fired
plant,
we're
replacing
it
with
an
880
megawatt
combined
cycle
gas
plant
and
what
you
see
out
here
are
the
combustion
turbines.
B
Three
combustion
turbines
that
nning
you
can
think
of
those
as
John
aircraft
engines
hooked
up
to
a
generator,
and
then
we
have
steam
recovery
off
of
that.
So
the
hot
air
comes
off
of
that
we
have
we
we
make
steam
out
of
it
and
it
comes
over
to
a
farce
esteem
turbine.
It
makes
for
a
very
efficient
use
of
capture
of
energy.
So
that's
our
plant
cooling
cooling
towers
right
here
and
then
this
unit
is
slated
for
retirement
by
the
end
of
this
year,
December
2012,
it
will
be,
it
will
be
retired
mothballed.
B
B
Certainly,
as
we
started
looking
at
at
renewable
energy,
we
we
have
a
lot
of
hydroelectric
hydroelectric
we
have.
We
have.
We
were
one
of
the
first
to
put
wind
power
in
the
southeast,
with
our
Buffalo
mountain
stations,
up
on
the
cumberland
plateau
there,
outside
of
oak
ridge,
we've
added
to
that
with
some
Power
Purchase
Agreements
to
bring
wind
down
the
Midwest.
B
We
we've
purchased
a
large
quantity
of
wind
coming
out
of
the
Midwest
and
we're
investing
heavily
and
so
or
through
our
generation
partners
in
our
standard
offer
that
we
have
out
there
that's
available
to
be
seen
on
our
website,
and
then
we
do
some
biomass.
As
we
start,
we
start
looking
at
what
the
capacities
are.
We
look
at
the
resources
of
what
we've
committed
to
and
we're
certainly
moving
forward
in
the
IRP
of
filling
out
the
that
renewable
energy
space,
a
variety
of
program,
I'm
moving
forward.
B
I
thought
I
would
show
one
that
that
kind
of
highlights
some
of
what
we're
doing
with
solar
installations,
and
you
see
that
Western
North
Carolina
is
very
much
represented.
This
is
our
power
service
region
of
of
our
areas
of
our
partner
and
distributors
in
Western,
North
Carolina,
then
that
have
been
participating
in
the
program.
You'll
see
the
green
are
the
sites
that
are
installed,
and
you
see
a
backlog
of
some
installations
that
certainly
that
had
been
approved
but
are
on
the
boards
to
be
to
be
constructed.
So
we
are
seeing
more
solar
penetrations.
B
We
have
some
large
solar
farms
that
are
coming
in,
but
these
are
more
residential,
commercial
salt,
smaller
solar
arrays
that
are
part
of
our
part
of
our
program.
To
get
folks
involved
in
developing
a
little
bit
of
diverse
energy
distributed
energy
on
our
energy
efficiency
program.
We've
got
it
targeted,
basically
and
three
mates
buckets
our
residential
home
efficiency,
commercial,
energy
efficiency,
think
about
strip
centers,
think
about
Burger,
King,
McDonald's,
those
those
folks
and
then
think
about
large
industrials,
and
we've
got
programs
in
all
of
those
sectors.
B
We
are
continuing
to
do
air
monitoring
in
the
in
the
park.
We
we
certainly
work
with
a
lot
of
folks
at
EPA,
every
state
programs
we're
continuing
to
look
at
that.
We're
glad
to
see
some
of
the
reports
coming
out
that
I
previously
mentioned
that
talked
about
reductions
in
in
in
air
emissions
and
impacts
from
air
emissions
in
the
sensitive
part
of
the
park
and
upper
mountain
regions
and
I.
This
was
a
this
was
a
slide.
Somebody
will
said
wool
your
your!
B
Your
slides
are
a
little
boring
they're,
pretty
detailed,
show
them
that
it's
making
a
difference
and
I
went
well.
Let's
get
a
visibility
slide
up
here.
So
if
you,
if
you
couldn't
see
it
through
the
the
chart,
you
just
start
seeing
that
that,
as
we
measure
visibility,
you
can
start
seeing
the
difference
as
we
reduce,
as
certainly
as
we
reduce
so2
and
other
and
particulate
matter,
and
things
that
that
deflect,
like
certainly
visible
emissions
I
mean
visible
array,
is
certainly
looking
better
and
we're
seeing
you
can
clean
air
is
a
little
more
tangible
to
us.
B
So
in
summary,
I
do
think
it's
great
to
be
here
to
basically
celebrate
some
of
the
achievements
that
have
been
made.
There's
been
a
lot
of
hard
work
by
this
campaign.
There's
been
a
lot
of
hard
work
done
by
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
utility
industry,
not
only
TVA
but
other
other
utilities
around
the
region.
So
we're
glad
to
be
part
of
it.
We're
glad
to
see
the
participation
that
you
have
in
many
source
sectors
and
and
I
think
the
pace
of
the
improvement
will
need
to
continue.
B
If
you
look
at
the
level
that
they
are
going
to
set
national
ambient
air
quality
standards
at
they're,
going
to
set
some
strict
standards,
so
tougher
requirements
are
coming
and
the
pace
of
improvements,
certainly,
we
hope
keep
up
with
the
pace
of
the
reductions
that
they're
setting.
So
as
we
see
air
emissions
coming
down,
the
new
targets
are
going
to
be
set
pretty
low,
so
keep
the
keep
the
initiatives
coming
and
keep
clean
air
coming.
B
A
C
Since
we're
here
for
the
kickoff
event
at
the
beginning
of
the
ozone
season,
I'd
like
to
mention,
we
monitor
ozone
from
April
first
through
the
end
of
October,
but
the
forecasting
is
done
through
april
till
the
end
of
sep
tember.
So
I'm
going
to
start
talking
about
that
ozone
forecasts
are
issued
every
day
at
three
o'clock.
The
first
one
is
tomorrow:
okay,
the
season
starts
on
April
first,
but
we'll
begin
the
month.
The
forecasting
tomorrow
comes
out
at
three
o'clock.
C
Now
we
do
issue
forecasting
for
fine
particles
PM
2.5
year
round,
and
if
you
went
to
get
forecast
I'll,
give
you
some
clues
on
how
to
pick
it
up
pretty
soon
for
ozone.
We
issue
forecast
for
both
ridge
tops
and
valleys.
So
when
you,
if
you're
going
to
be
hiking
to
Mount,
Mitchell,
be
sure
to
check
that
ridge
top
if
you're
just
concerned
about
where
you
live
in
a
valley
that
will
give
you
the
best
clue
on
that
one.
C
Okay,
and
when
we
do
this,
we
will
issue
a
forecast
for
each
site,
but
sometimes
you
also
get
it
for
over
the
whole
mix.
And
if
you
do
that,
you
always
get
whichever
the
forecast
is
worse.
So
if
at
PM
2.5
is
yellow
and
ozone
is
green
and
you
only
hear
one
forecast,
it
will
be,
for
whichever
one
is
not
as
good.
We
could
go
to
our
website
and
she
had
to
do
that
in
a
second.
C
You
can
find
out
the
details
for
each
one
and
in
giving
out
that
forecast
in
the
numbers
we
use
the
code
issued
by
EPA
for
the
air
quality
index.
Green
is
good,
yellows
medium
when
we
get
the
orange
we're
getting
into
unhealthy
for
sensitive
people,
and
we
have
not
had
a
red
here
in
a
long
time
and
we
hope
that
continues.
C
So
we
then
tie
our
ambient
air
quality
standard
to
that
code.
So
and
that
standard,
as
you
just
heard
from
mr.
Myers-
is
75
parts
per
billion,
oops
I'm
getting
the
wrong
one
trying
to
hit
the
laser,
and
so
it's
right
here
we
use
the
standard
as
the
transition
point
from
yellow
to
orange.
So
if
you
hear
that
it's
green,
it
doesn't
just
mean
it's
below
the
standard,
it's
well
below
the
standard
anything
below
60.
C
If
that's,
the
forecast
for
a
site
will
be
result
in
a
green
code
if
we
expect
it
to
be
between
that
375
it'll
be
yellow,
and
it's
only
when
it
gets
over
the
ambient
air
quality
standards
set
by
EPA
that
it
goes
to
76
all
right.
So
with
PM
2.5,
we
also
have
a
ambient
air
quality
standard,
but
in
PM
2.5
we
have
an
annual
average
and
we
have
a
24-hour
standard.
So
we
use
our
24-hour
standard,
which
is
35
micrograms
per
cubic
meter.
C
You
have
to
love
the
units,
we
use
right
parts
per
billion
micrograms
per
cubic
meter,
but
that
is
how
we
measure
the
mass
and
once
again
there
there
is
our
transition
point
from
yellow
to
orange.
That's
a
rounded
convention
that
we
use
point
for
2.5,
that's
where
it
switches.
So
if
it's
green,
it
means
we're
below
our
annual
standard,
which
is
15.4,
then,
if,
as
we
go
from
there
to
our
daily
standard
you're
in
the
yellow
zone,
etc,
so
they
both
work.
C
Similarly,
based
on
that
color
code
that
we
get
from
EPA
so
now
that
you're
excited
about
how
to
get
that
forecast
every
day,
one
place
to
get
it
that
probably
provides
the
most
information
is
to
go
to
our
website
n,
see
air
dot.
Org,
that's
easiest
way
to
get
there,
ok
and
all
across
the
bottom
of
the
home
page.
Of
course,
there's
lots
of
other
fun
stuff
to
read.
C
But
if
you
come
across
and
click
on
ozone
forecasts
it'll
take
you
to
this
page
and
actually
you're
now
looking
at
the
top
half
of
that
page,
but
you
can
now
see
different
areas
across
the
state
where
we
do
forecasting
now
our
ridgetop
forecast
will
be
right
here
and
those
men.
The
valley
forecast,
is
indicated
here
in
the
mountain
counties
all
right
now,
right
now
the
mountains
look
gray
because
I
just
took
the
shot
off
the
internet
a
couple
days
ago,
we're
not
doing
ozone.
C
Yet
we
can't
do
PM
2.5
at
the
high
elevations,
because
it's
real
hard
to
get
to
Mount
Mitchell
in
January,
and
we
have
to
do
the
forecasting
for
that
year.
Round.
Ozone
and
other
side
is
a
summertime
pollutant.
That's
why
we
monitor
from
the
beginning
of
april,
through
the
end
of
october,
it
depends
on
radiation
from
the
Sun
that
radiant
energy
to
drive
reactions
in
the
atmosphere
to
form
the
ozone
and
they're
not
sufficient
in
the
wintertime.
C
So
ozone
is
a
summer
pollutant
and
one
way
also,
while
we're
on
this
slide,
though
I
want
to
touch
on,
is
right
here.
You
click
on
that
and
you
can
sign
up
to
receive
an
email
every
day
around
3-330.
That
will
tell
you
what
the
forecast
is
for
tomorrow.
You
just
click
on
that
go
in
and
fill
in
your
information.
Obviously
they
went
your
email
address
and
you
will
get
them
for
free.
We
don't
even
charge
for
the
forecast.
C
It's
such
a
good
deal,
okay
and
at
the
bottom
of
this
page,
then,
once
you
have
seen
where
the
different
areas
are,
they
receive
the
forecast.
This
is
what
you'll
see
all
the
different
areas
are
listed,
so
we
have,
our
ridge
tops.
It
says,
forecast
unavailable,
we
didn't
have
it
for
that
point
in
time.
We
do
occasionally
issue
what
we
call
generic
ozone
forecasts
outside
the
ozone
season
and
that
will
that's
just
an
opportunity
for
any
reason.
The
meter
all
just
believe
there
is
it
could
be
a
problem
for
whatever
reason
they
will
do
that.
C
But
if
you
come
to
our
webpage,
that's
where
you
get
the
most
information,
but
starting
tomorrow,
right
here
under
ozone,
aqi
you'll
see
another
row
of
numbers
that
are
tied
to
that
air
quality
index
for
ozone,
just
like
we
currently
have
for
PM
2.5,
and
this
one
may
be
causing
an
orange
over
here,
whereas
this
one
would
still
be
green.
So,
as
you
look
at
them,
remember,
whichever
one
is
worse,
is
going
to
control
the
overall
code.
C
Any
questions
on
that
by
the
way.
Okay,
you
can
also,
in
addition
to
going
to
our
trusty
website,
NC
org,
you
can
call
this
retool
number.
They
will
give
you
the
forecasting
and
you
can
go
to
the
EPA
website
and
you
can
there
receive
forecasts
from
across
the
nation-
that's
kind
of
fun
to
do.
If
you
want
our
forecast,
when
you
get
to
the
map,
you
can
click
on
North
Carolina
and
you
can
get
to
our
area.
C
But
if
you're
traveling
tomorrow
and
you're
going
to
go
up
to
in
Virginia
or
Pennsylvania
or
anywhere
else,
you
can
go
there
and
pull
the
forecast
for
those
areas
as
well,
which
is
a
really
good
deal,
and
it's
also,
of
course,
on
LS.
It's
on
the
Weather
Channel,
it's
in
much
of
the
media,
it's
in
the
newspaper
as
well.
Okay!
C
So
that's
how
we
transmit
the
forecast,
that's
how
we
give
out
information,
but
if
you're
going
hiking
today-
and
you
would
like
to
see
what's
the
latest
available
data,
we
offer
what
we
call
real-time
data-
it's
always
going
to
be
two
to
three
hours
behind,
because
it
takes
us
that
long
to
take
the
data
from
the
site
where
it's
recorded,
you
know,
send
it
through
the
phone
lines
put
it
in
our
computer
pop
it
up
on
our
website.
But
we
do
provide
that.
C
So
if
you
go
to
our
website
when
you
come
on,
though
you
go
to
this
wonderful
place
here
called
monitoring
data
and
it
offers
current
by
side
or
by
monitor
each
one
will
allow
you
to
access
information
for
the
area
that
you
are
interested
in.
So
if
you
click
on
my
site,
if
you
come
here,
you
then
see
the
map
of
the
state
and
just
want
to
point
out,
of
course,
buncombe
county.
There
is
a
different
color,
because
there
are
three
local
programs
and
actually
it's
going
to
speak
a
bit
about
buncombe
county.
C
But
if
you
click
in
this
area
right
here,
it
will
then
take
you
to
the
monitoring
sites
that
we
have
in
the
mountains.
And
if
you
look
at
the
different
color
codes,
you
will
see
summer
for
ozone
summer
for
p.m.
some
are
both
and
we
also
offer
some
meteorological
data
at
sites
where
we
have
a
med
station.
So
just
to
give
you
an
example,
you
can
take
your
pick
and
click
on
whichever
one
you
want
to,
but
I'm
going
to
click
on
Bryson
City.
C
If
I
go
to
that
site.
This
is
what
I
receive
now
once
again.
I
did
this
a
couple
days
ago,
so
the
ozone
data
is
not
up
there.
Yet
it
will
be
up
some
sites.
Don't
have
ozone
some
sites,
don't
f,
PM
2.5.
You
can
always
tell
by
that
color
code,
though
what
type
of
information
you
are
received,
but
at
bryson
we
have
both.
So
here
it's
showing
our
PM
2.5
concentrations
across
here
and
if
you're
interested
you
can
get
all
this
fun
met
date
along
with
it.
C
B
C
Been
discussion
about
how
we
might
be
able
to
do
that
someday,
but
it
still
will
give
you
a
better
idea
of
how
the
air
is
right
now
for
an
area
or
relatively
now
for
an
area
you
want
to
go
see.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
about
that,
you
can.
Let
me
know:
I'll
ask
you
more
later,
but
I
know
you're
all
dying
to
see
the
data
from
all
the
monitoring
we
do.
So
this
is
the
area
where
we
do
monitoring
those
are
also
the
counties
that
we
officially
do
the
forecast
for.
C
If
I'm
going
to
macon
county,
though
I
would
think
a
forecast
for
jackson
county
would
be
pretty
good,
but
technically
this
is
our
sites
we
look
at
and
you
will
notice.
We
have
some
that
are
triangles.
Those
are
our
high
elevation
sites.
Our
Valley
sites
are
indicated
by
circles
now
been
Creek
is
one
that
is
operated
by
the
local
program
and
ashley
will
talk
more
about
it
later
as
well.
C
But
here
we
go
the
way
we
have
to
do.
Everything
in
air
quality
is
complicated,
so
it's
part
of
the
rules
that
we
have
so
when
we
say
our
standard
is
75
parts
per
billion.
What
it
means
is
that
each
monitor
we
have
at
the
end
of
the
year.
We
stack
the
data
from
highest
to
lowest.
We
go
down
to
the
fourth
highest
and
we
take
that
number.
So
we
do
that
for
2009.
We
do
it
for
2010.
C
We
do
it
for
2011,
we
average
those
three
numbers
together
and
that's
the
number
that
has
to
be
75
or
lower
to
show
attained
meant
with
the
national
standard.
So
I
hope
you
found
that
interesting,
because
that
is
how
it
works.
So
I'm
showing
you
a
comparison
between
our
ridge
top
sites
and
our
Valley
sites
and
all
of
them
are
complying.
We
are
welling
tainment
with
that
current
standard
is
75,
as
John
mentioned.
We
are
looking,
though
EPA
changing
this.
They
originally
were
looking
at
changing
it
to
a
range
between
60
and
70.
C
Well,
if
they
made
it
60
we're
in
trouble,
but
at
70
we
would
only
had
one
over
70
and
that's
Johanna,
bald,
we'll
see.
Where
would
they
go
in
the
future?
We're
currently,
though,
are
improving
at
these
sites,
but,
as
you
can
see,
we're
especially
doing
well
in
the
valley
side,
because
they're
all
below
70,
and
if
you
would
like
to
see
how
we
have
achieved
that
over
the
years,
it's
fun
to
go
back
over
time.
C
Now
we're
looking
at
the
beginning
here,
a
three-year
average
of
98
to
2000
and
that
average
we
had
keep
several
sites
well
over
ninety
parts
per
billion.
This
yellow
line
is
indicating
averaging
across
all
of
our
sites,
for
the
regional
average
is
what
I
call
it,
and
at
that
time
it
was
87.
But
if
we
come
over
and
look
at
where
are
we
now
2009
through
2011,
our
regional
average
has
gone
from
87
to
67?
That's
pretty
good.
That's
improvement
for
us.
I
mean
a
trait
to
see
that
line
going
sloping
the
other
direction.
C
So
we
are
improving.
We're
continuing
to
see
that
and
one
of
the
good
things
about
it
is
last
year
was
a
pretty
hot
summer.
It
was
pretty
dry,
but
we
still
continue
to
do
pretty
well
and
for
me,
ozone
is
affected
by
the
weather,
cool,
wet
summers.
We
always
have
lower
ozone
than
if
it's
a
hot
dry
one,
but
if
we
can
keep
those
concentrations
down
even
in
hot
dry
summers,
that
shows
that
we
are
reducing
NOx
emissions.
I
mentioned
ozone
is
formed
in
the
atmosphere.
C
Okay,
so
next
I
thought
I'd
made
fine
particles
as
well,
because
we
have
to
achieve
an
ambient
air
quality
standards
as
well
there.
One
difference
I
will
mention,
though,
is
that
there
are
clear
links
between
fine
particles
and
mortality.
The
death
rate.
There
are
studies
now
being
done
to
look
at
that
with
respect
to
ozone,
but
I
have
not
heard
of
anything
conclusive
coming
out
of
it
yet,
but
our
annual
average
is
15
micrograms
per
cubic
meter
and
one
of
his
slide.
Mr.
C
C
We
like
to
see
the
progress
there,
and
that
is
the
progress
we
have
achieved
over
the
years
when
we
start
in
that
far
left
side
we're
looking
at
99
30
199
is
a
year.
We
began
monitoring
for
PM
2.5
and
we
came
down
pretty
well.
Some
of
this
was
due
to
some
of
the
rules
in
place
like
the
acid
rain
provisions
we
kind
of
leveled
off,
but
along
comes
things
like
the
clean
smokestacks
act,
other
federal
rules
as
well
that
required
reductions.
C
So
now
we
have
gone
when
you
look
at
our
aunt
regional
average
back
here,
we're
almost
at
15,
our
regional
in
the
average
now
is
less
than
10.
So
that's
improvement
to
you,
we'd
like
to
see
that,
and
once
again
you
know
we
have
a
nice
slope
going
here.
We
hope
that
one
kind
of
continues,
but
it
gets
more
difficult
as
you
get
lower
here,
to
keep
it
declining.
C
Ok,
you
heard
most
of
this
already
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
it
pretty
quickly,
because
I
did
want
to
mention
some
of
these
rules
now
I'm
going
to
give
a
little
time
to
one
aspect
of
interesting
federal
state
interaction.
You
heard
about
the
cross-state
air
pollution
rule
see
sapper,
as
some
people
call
it
one
of
the
better
acronyms
that
we
have
these
days,
but
we
will
benefit
from
that
when
it
comes
into
place.
C
It'll
affect,
but
mostly
the
eastern
US,
the
utility
boiler
mact
an
inch
and
that
as
well
we're
going
to
see
reductions
in
mercury
in
other
hazardous
air
pollutants,
which
is
what
happens
for
there's.
Also,
though,
on
Tuesday
was
issued,
the
utility
greenhouse
gas
proposal
and
it
ties
the
emissions
of
greenhouse
gases
at
utilities
in
the
future.
It's
only
for
plants
that
have
not
yet
applied
for
permits,
but
it
ties
it
gives
a
limit
for
coal
a
limit
that
coal
will
have
a
very
hard
time.
Achieving
that's
what
it
does.
C
It
gives
a
limit
per
megawatt
generated
and
I'll
touch
on
that,
just
a
little
more
to
give
you
a
more
idea
about
it,
but
I
also
wanted
to
mention
the
industrial
boiler
MACT,
because
this
is,
if
you
like
confusion
in
rules
which
we
have
a
lot
of.
This
really
is
a
good
one
to
check
out
effects
industry
boilers.
C
We
have
98
facilities
in
the
state
and
over
a
thousand
boilers
that
are
affected
and
when
EPA
started
this,
they
issue
those
rules
under
what
we
call
the
112
D
section
of
the
cleaner
act,
and
when
we
get
there,
though
they
did
not
have
it
in
place
in
time,
so
that
it
was
officially
in
place
because
of
a
cake
they
catcher,
etc,
and
the
rule
says.
Okay,
then
the
states
have
to
step
in
and
tell
you
what
to
do
so.
The
federal
government
doesn't
kick
take
care
of
it
in
time.
C
C
So
it's
by
facility,
we
issue
the
MACT
maximum
achievable
control
technology
based
on
information
we
have
for
the
hazardous
air
pollutants.
We
do
it
through
a
permitting
action
and
we
do
it
because
US
EPA
had
failed
to
promulgate
their
mac
and
keep
it
in
place
on
time.
So
right
now,
EPA
is
getting
their
mac
back
in
place,
but
for
the
virtually
all
of
the
industrial
boilers
in
North
Carolina,
they
won't
have
to
comply
until
20
18
to
19
after
maze
22nd
2019.
C
We
stopped
doing
that
because
the
rule
was
no
longer
in
place
to
fix
the
rule,
because
EPA
had
not
put
out
there's
in
time.
So
it's
one
of
those
places
where
now
we
have
a
state
rule
replacing
a
federal
rule
temporarily
and
then
it
will
go
back
to
being
a
federal
rule
so
case,
you're
wondering
how
complicated
doing
regulatory
work
can
get.
That's
a
pretty
good
one
and
just
want
to
mention.
We
also
do
it
for
smaller
boilers
and
instead
of
Mac
maximum
achievable,
it
becomes
gackt
generally
available.
C
When
that
first
came
out,
it
caused
a
lot
of
controversy.
Everybody
thought
it
was
pretty
difficult
to
do,
but
really
what
it
ended
up
being
for
small
boilers
tune-up
every
two
years.
That's
a
great
idea.
They
ought
to
do
that
any
out
it
also
for
existing
boilers
unless
you're
burning
coal,
your
requirement
is
a
boiler
tune-up
and
a
one-time
energy
assessment.
So
that's
where
we
landed
I,
think
that
was
an
improvement
in
that
rule.
C
It's
still
tough
if
you're
burning
coal,
but
otherwise
tune-ups
is
basically
what
they're
trying
to
focus
on,
because
it
would
be
very
expensive
for
small
boilers
to
install
controls
be
far
more
expensive
than
the
benefit.
So
that's
one
I
appreciate
and
just
to
touch
on
as
well.
In
the
greenhouse
gas,
one
of
the
main
areas
we're
focusing
on
is
gathering
inventories.
How
many
tons
of
greenhouse
gases
are
going
up
in
the
air?
C
These
are
the
ones
we
look
at.
This
is
what
you're
doing
an
inventory.
These
are
the
gases
we
look
at
now:
they're,
not
equal
in
terms
of
their
intensity.
Methane
is
more
than
20
times
as
intense
as
carbon
dioxide
in
terms
of
climate
change
impacts,
but
we
gather
all
of
those
and
you
can
go
to
that
website.
If
you'd
like
to
see
inventories
by
the
way
they
finally
came
to
the
point
or
me
of
setting
us
limit
for
the
utility
boilers
it
was
proposed
on
Tuesday.
C
It
will
probably
end
up
in
court
like
everything
else
does,
but
you
can
see
that
the
limit
is
a
thousand
pounds
of
co2
per
megawatt.
Well,
that's
how
many
pounds
of
co2
are
generated
by
a
coal
boiler?
That's
how
many
are
generated
by
a
natural
gas
boiler
very
interesting.
The
limit
is
right
between
them.
C
I
can't
believe
that
that
was
just
accidental
I
think
it's
helping
to
push
a
shift
from
coal
to
natural
gas,
but
you
should
really
ask
the
people
who
wrote
it
because
they
could
give
you
a
much
better
answer,
but
it's
a
big
deal,
because
it's
the
first
proposed
limit
on
emissions
of
greenhouse
gases
that
we've
really
had
so
I'll.
Let
you
go
with
all
that
and
here's
information
now
once
again,
our
website.
C
D
D
You've
heard
about
and
see
our
data
here
locally
and
some
of
the
initiatives
that
we're
doing
here
at
the
local
agency
here
in
North
Carolina
air
quality
is
regulated
by
the
state
division
of
air
quality
through
their
seven
regional
offices,
they
regulate
the
97
counties
and
then
there
are
actually
three
local
programs
that
regulate
the
other
three
counties
in
North
Carolina.
So
our
programs
are
approved
by
the
Environmental
Management
Commission.
D
We
do
most
of
the
same
type
work
that
the
division
of
air
quality
does,
and
that
includes
enforcing
the
regulations
permitting
of
all
the
sources
that
require
permitting.
We
do
inspections
and
compliance.
We
also
regulate
as
bestest
removal
which
the
three
locals
do
and
the
state
does
out
of
raleigh
and
we
regulate
open
burning.
D
So
here
in
Western,
North
Carolina,
we
do
have
some
unique
challenges
with
air
quality
in
the
mountains
because
of
our
topography.
Sometimes
we
have
the
mountain
valley
type
inversions,
where
air
pollution
can
get
trapped
down
in
the
valleys
and
any
type
of
locally
generated.
Air
pollution
can
be
an
issue
there.
D
Over
the
years,
we've
heard
a
lot
from
different
folks.
We
do
have
about
air
pollution
blowing
into
the
area
from
other
states,
and
while
that
does
occur,
some
studies
have
shown
that
our
worst
air
quality
days
are
actually
when
we're
experiencing
these
stagnant
air
conditions,
and
that
is
mostly
locally
generated.
Pollution
so
like
to
point
out
that
while
we
do
get
contributions
of
pollution
from
other
areas,
we
are
responsible
for
a
lot
of
our
own
pollution
problems
as
well.
So
it's
really
important
that
we
all
do
the
best
we
can
in
our
local
area
here.
D
So,
with
regards
to
ozone,
as
you've
heard,
NOx
emissions
and
volatile
organic
compound
emissions
do
contribute
to
the
formation
of
ozone
when
there
is
the
presence
of
heat
and
sunlight,
which
is
why
it's
a
summertime
pollutant.
But
here
in
the
southeast
we
have
a
lot
of
VOCs
that
are
generated
from
natural
sources
like
trees.
So
what
we
do
is
try
to
focus
on
the
NOx
emissions
and
our
control
strategies
for
reducing
ozone
focus
on
NOx,
the
biggest
sources
of
nights
here
locally,
our
cars
and
trucks.
D
By
far
the
progress,
energy
Skyland
plant
and
other
industrial
boilers
and
sources
that
like
Paul,
was
talking
about
earlier.
But
progress
Energy's,
put
on
a
lot
of
controls
here
at
the
Skyland
plant
in
Asheville
and
as
a
result,
the
cars
and
trucks
are
really
our
biggest
sources
of
air
pollution
for
Knox
and,
as
Paul
was
saying
earlier,
the
weather
does
influence
ozone.
D
We've
seen
that
the
hotter
drier
summers
usually
result
in
more
ozone
compared
to
the
cooler
wetter
summers
but,
as
he
pointed
out,
and
we're
going
to
show
you
with
our
data,
the
good
news
is,
even
in
recent
years,
we've
had
so
much
pollution
reductions
that
when
we
have
had
some
hot
dry
summers
haven't
been
too
bad
as
they
had
been
in
previous
years.
So
that's
very
encouraging
for
us
and
I'll
go
through
this
quickly
because
you've
heard
about
this,
but
our
standard,
of
course
for
ozone.
D
It's
a
national
health
based
standard
as
designed
to
protect
the
public
health
as
75
parts
per
billion
and
right
now,
if
the
Buncombe
County
monitors
and
bent
creek
that
most
of
the
debt
that
the
data
that
I'm
going
to
show
you
comes
from,
we
are
right
around
that
67
parts
per
billion.
That's
our
design
value
that
three-year
average
of
the
fourth
highest
level
that
Paul
explained
earlier.
D
We
are
concerned,
of
course,
about
our
upper
elevation
monitors
because
we
do
have
folks
going
and
living
up
in
the
upper
elevations
as
well,
and
when
EPA
does
designations
for
ozone,
they
look
sometimes
at
either
either.
Look
at
the
county
level,
or
sometimes
they
look
at
the
whole
metropolitan
statistical
area.
So
even
though
we're
mainly
concerned
our
local
agency,
our
big
focuses
buncombe
county.
D
We
are
concerned
about
these
upper
elevation
monitors
like
the
ones
Paul
was
telling
you
about
in
Haywood
and
Yancy
and
surrounding
counties,
because
that
could
influence
whether
or
not
we
are
considered
to
be
an
attainment
area
depending
on
how
EPA
makes
their
decisions
on
that.
So
again,
as
it
was
mentioned
earlier,
EPA
is
looking
to
change
the
standard
from
75,
it's
possible.
They
could
lower
it
in
2013
down
in
the
range
of
60
to
70,
so
you're
a
pretty
borderline
at
that
level
with
the
level
of
70.
D
So
here's
our
design
value-
and
this
is
all
the
bent
creek
monitored
data.
You
can
see
that
it's
come
down
quite
a
bit
over
the
years.
This
was
our
old
standard.
This
is
the
new,
the
2008
standard
of
75.
So
we
are
well
below
that,
but
again
the
levels
that
we
have
to
meet
continue
to
drop
as
they
continue
to
find
more
health
effects
at
lower
levels.
D
This
regional
haze
is
very
closely
related
to
these
fine
particles
as
well,
and
that
can
affect
us
here,
especially
since
we
have
such
a
focus
on
tourism
and
people
want
to
be
able
to
come
to
the
mountains
and
see
the
mountains,
so
fun
particles
again
are
very
much
of
concern
for
us
here.
This
is
our
annual
average
fine
particle
data
at
the
monitor
here
in
Buncombe
County.
So
you
can
see
the
standard
is
15
micrograms
per
cubic
meter
and
we're
down
here
in
the
range
of
about
nine.
D
D
So
this
is
just
some
data
that
shows
over
the
years.
How?
How
often
are
this
is
not
the
forecast
data?
This
is
the
actual
levels
that
were
measured
at
the
monitors
put
into
that
air
quality
index.
So
you
can
see
in
2011
out
of
364
days
that
we
had
data
for
310.
We
were
in
the
good
range
compared
and
54.
We
were
in
the
yellow
range
and
that's
pretty
consistent
that
air
quality
is
good
most
of
the
time.
But,
of
course,
we're
concerned
about
the
moderate
and
unhealthy
days.
D
Epa
has
a
really
good
website
that
Paul
has
in
his
presentation.
It's
called
air
now
and
you
can
actually
go
in
and
look
at
different
counties
and
cities
and
compare
the
air
quality
index
levels
and
that's
been
really
helpful
for
us.
We
get
a
lot
of
calls
from
people
that
say
I'm
moving
to
the
area
and
I
want
to
know
about
the
air
quality,
so
they
can
go
in
and
put
in
their
city,
other
cities
that
they're
interested
in
and
see
the
differences
in
the
monitored
values.
D
So
now
I'd
like
to
tell
you
just
a
little
bit
about
some
things
that
we've
got
going
on
at
the
local
agency
briefly,
here
EPA
has
what
they
call
an
urban
air
toxic
strategy
where
they're
looking
at
these
small
sources
of
air
pollution
that
do
emit
toxic
air
pollution
and
what
they've
done
is
they
come
up
with
some
regulations?
They're
called
generally
available
control
technologies
and
they
do
apply
to
these
types
of
businesses.
We've
been
doing
outreach
with
these.
D
These
rules
actually
apply
to
gas
stations,
auto
body,
shops,
pleading
and
polishing
operations,
some
of
the
metal
fabricators
and
also
as
Paul
mentioned
earlier.
Just
lots
of
different
companies
have
small
boilers.
These
are
going
to
be
affected
by
these
rules,
so
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
outreach
with
the
community
of
the
different
businesses
that
might
be
subject
to
these
rules
and
that's
that's
been
a
big
big
focus
of
ours
these
last
couple
of
years
and
of
course
it's
it's
very
time
consuming
and.
D
I'd
like
to
switch
gears,
and
just
tell
you
real
briefly
about
a
couple
of
our
voluntary
pollution
prevention
type
initiatives.
This
is
one
that
we
did
in
partnership
with
the
North
Carolina
division
of
air
quality.
He
provided
these
signs.
We
managed
to
get
these
put
up
at
most
of
the
public
schools
and
city
of
asheville
and
buncombe
county,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
promote
idle
reduction
and
try
to
encourage
parents
not
to
idle
their
vehicles
when
they're
in
school
parking
areas.
D
So
we're
really
trying
to
encourage
folks
to
think
about
the
signs
and
try
not
to
idle
if
possible,
division
of
air
quality's
come
out
with
some
good
promotional
materials
that
were
hoping
to
get
out
into
the
schools
that
try
to
promote
this
program
more,
but
what
they
found
and
that
recent
data
shows
that
idling
for
just
30
seconds
waste.
More
fuel
than
restarting
the
engine,
so
you
know
if
you're
in
at
the
drive-through
or
someplace,
where
you're
going
to
be
idling.
D
Please
keep
that
in
mind
and
also
they've
also
found
that
idling
can
actually
damage
your
engine,
because
when
you're
idling
you're
not
getting
as
much
complete
fuel
combustion
as
when
you're
driving
and
it
results
in
the
build-up
of
fuel
residues
on
the
part.
So
it's
not
great
for
your
vehicle
either
and,
of
course,
the
more
gas
you
burned.
The
more
money
you're
spending
so
trying
to
cut
down
on
the
idling
will
save
money
at
the
pump.
So
another
initiative
that
we've
been
working
on
is
heating
with
wood.
D
There
are
a
lot
of
people
in
Western,
North
Carolina
that
do
heat
with
wood
and
fortunately,
back
from
2009
through
2011.
There
were
some
good
tax
credits
that
people
could
take
advantage
of
if
they
wanted
to
swap
out
their
old
wood
stove
for
a
newer,
cleaner
burning,
wood
stove
that
meets
the
EPA
standards.
So
we
found
we
could
not
find
any
funding
for
a
wood,
stove
change
out
program
at
the
time.
So
we
decided
to
initiate
a
campaign
and
try
to
let
people
know
at
least
about
the
tax
credits
which
were
pretty
significant
during
2010.
D
They
were
up
around
six
hundred
or
so
dollars,
which
was
thirty
percent
of
the
installation
of
a
new
stove
and
they
drop
down
to
three
hundred
dollars.
After
that,
unfortunately,
we
don't
have
those
credits
anymore,
but
we
still
try
to
get
the
word
out
to
folks
about
the
newer
wood
stoves.
Not
only
are
there
cleaner
but
they're
safer,
they
produce
less
air
pollution,
but
they
also
produce
less
of
that
creosote
that
builds
up
in
the
chimney
and
can
lead
to
the
dangerous
chimney
fires.
D
So
we
do
have
some
more
information
about
that
on
our
website
anybody's
interested.
We
have
a
good
demonstration,
video
that
shows
an
older,
more
polluting
wood,
stove
next
to
a
cleaner,
EPA,
certified
wood
stove,
and
it's
just
amazing
the
amount
of
smoke
that
the
older
stoves
do
put
out
and
EPA
has
found
that
most
of
the
stoves
out
there
are
still
the
older
I
think
it's
pre-1990
or
so
models
so.
D
Again,
I've
already
covered
this
diesel
retrofits.
We
continue
to
try
to
participate
in
these
projects
when
funding
is
available.
The
older
diesel
engines
are
very
durable
and
they've
actually
they're
actually
on
the
road
a
lot
longer
than
our
gasoline
cars,
a
typical
replacement
cycles
about
20
years.
So
these
diesel
retrofits
can
really
felt
because
those
older
engines
are
going
to
be
on
the
road
for
a
long
time.
D
The
different
technologies
that
can
be
available
in
addition
to
the
diesel
oxidation
catalysts
are
the
particulate
filters
and
the
close
crankcase
ventilation
systems,
among
others.
So
congress
has
appropriated
funds
for
an
epa
program
to
continue
to
give
out
money
for
these
type
projects
and
right
now
the
north
carolina
division
of
air
quality
actually
has
an
idle
reduction
devices.
D
This
is
a
state
map,
but
just
shows
the
radon
levels
red
being
the
highest
followed
by
orange
and
then
the
lowest
yellow
but
you'll
see
that
buncombe
county
and
some
of
the
other
mountain
counties
have
some
of
the
highest
radon
levels
in
the
state
and
radon
is
the
second
leading
cause
of
lung
cancer
in
the
United
States.
So
we've
been
giving
out
free
radon
test
kits
we
encourage
everyone
to
tell
home
and
remediate
it
if
necessary.
D
We've
done
done
that
partnership
with
the
state
radon
program
and
the
Buncombe
County
Cooperative
Extension
Service
as
well.
So
that's
something
we
give
out
the
free
test
kits
in
January
every
year
and
if
you
don't
get
a
freak
it
there
are
only
fifteen
dollars
and
the
state
program
actually
can
sell
them
at
cost
for
five
dollars
if
anybody's
interested.
A
Well,
I
just
want
to
thank
all
our
event,
sponsors
and
our
presenters
today.
Special
thanks
to
the
media
for
helping
us
to
inform
the
public
and
our
community
leaders.
Media
has
been
great
to
work
with.
I
also
want
to
thank
buncombe
county
TV
for
coming
out
again
this
year
and
taping
this
event
and
I
guess
that'll
be
on
their
website,
probably
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
and
also
on
a
DVD.