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A
Ferrara
as
well
as
Esther
manheimer
from
there
myself,
of
course,
I'm
present
as
I
can
Chief
definitely
Blake
Pat
Freeman
here
Sylvia
Clement.
A
Danny
Cohen
Joe
stormberg,
it's
right
beside
me,
Ty
Williams,
I,
think
Meredith
is
in
route.
A
He'll
be
coming
in
Tiffany
Donald,
Roose
cheeks
at
Dustin
down.
A
A
All
right
we'll
make
note
of
others
as
they
come
in
for
the
casino
Jenna.
You
should
have
received
the
November
the
agenda
in
advance,
but
also
the
August
minutes
for
the
j-rack.
We
already
made
notice
some
changes
that
needed
to
happen.
There
was
a
discrepancy.
A
Natalie
hasn't
pulled
up
here
on
who
made
the
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
as
well
as
towards
the
end,
the
motion
to
to
adjourn
the
meeting.
So
those
adjustments
have
been
made
here
any
other
thoughts
or
recommended
that
it's
to
the
minutes.
B
A
D
C
C
So
before
I
get
started
on
the
topic
today,
which
is
the
female
population
in
what
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
jail
numbers
I
wanted
to
follow
up
from
a
question
that
was
discussed
last
time
when
I
was
here
speaking
about
the
impact
that
failure
to
appears
on
the
jail
population,
and
we
had
provided
an
analysis
that
looked
at
the
percentage
of
bookings
coming
into
the
facility
only
for
a
failure
to
appear
in
order
for
arrest
records
that
were
in
housed
and
the
question
was
asked.
How
do
we
Define
unhoused
and
So?
C
After
talking
with
some
food
server
in
the
Detention
Facility,
we
have
added
a
new
address
to
that
filter
so
that
we're
now
looking
at
225
patent,
as
well
as
a
hope
and
the
20
Davidson
address
that
we
have
historically
used
to
flag
the
unhoused
population
that
did
increase
is
the
overall
number
of
bookings
that
we
had
seen
coming
into
the
facility
last
fiscal
year.
That
were
only
four
in
order
for
arrest,
but
it
did
not
adjust
the
overall
percentage.
C
So
that
number
that
we
presented
to
our
last
time
remains
at
18
of
bookings
come
into
the
facility
for
order
for
arrest.
C
Ed,
so
female
population
Trends
is
my
topic
today
and
so
I'm
going
to
take
us
back
to
2014
on
this
slide
and
what
you're
looking
at
is
the
average
population
by
month
for
the
local
female
population.
So
this
does
not
include
any
contract
women
held
under
contract
and
when
you
see
back
in
2014
2015,
we
were
opt-in,
seeing
population
numbers
in
the
right
below
that
50
line.
C
Things
started
to
bounce
around
a
bit
more,
but
it
was
more
frequently
that
we
were
seeing
numbers
in
this
Above
That
70
line,
so
you
can
see
that
that
really
continued
until
we
reaching
the
pandemic
and
that
drastic
drop
is,
of
course,
when
the
pandemic
hit,
and
since
that
time
we've
steadily
increased
and
in
2022
the
population
has
increased
even
more
significantly
for
females
in
custody
and
but
just
to
let
you
kind
of
know
where
we
stand
we're
seeing
from
last
calendar
year
2021
to
where
we
stand
currently.
C
In
2022,
an
increase
of
the
female
population-
that's
almost
40
percent,
so
a
very
big
jump
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
Zooming
in
to
2022,
you
can
kind
of
see.
This
is
the
daily
count
from
the
beginning
of
the
year
until
the
end
of
October.
C
Let
me
see
if
I
can
get
this
together
on
this
side.
One
of
the
things
that
I'll
point
out
here
is,
and
over
the
summer
there
were
several
days
where
the
population
was
hitting
80
or
very
close
to
it,
and
then
in
October
the
population
was
staying
steadily
above
70.
in
really
in
the
mid
70s.
What
that
did
result
in
is
the
housing
unit.
C
It
was
transitioned
to
a
male
housing
unit
during
the
pandemic
has
been
transitioned
back
to
a
female
housing
unit,
and
so
now
the
design
capacity
for
female
housing
in
the
jail
is
back
at
96..
C
So
what's
been
driving
the
population
increase
when
we
talked
about
the
jail
population,
you'll
hear
me
talk
about
the
formula
it's
the
number
of
entries
into
the
facility
and
how
long
they
stay
so
prior
to
the
pandemic.
It
was
very
slight.
Then
we
started
to
see
back
in
2015.
The
number
of
females
entering
the
facility
had
started
starting
to
decline.
It
continued
to
decline
and
then
into
the
pandemic,
and
then
we
saw
that
big
decline.
That's
happened,
and
even
the
year
following
the
pandemic
on
set
the
bookings
into
the
facility
continued
to
decline.
C
What
we're
seeing
in
2022
is
a
little
bit
different,
so
this
is
a
kind
of
a
comparison
year
of
year,
comparison
figure
through
October
of
2021,
which
is
your
shaded
area
in
2022,
which
is
your
line
and
right
around
April.
We
started
to
see
that
the
female
bookings
start
to
outpace
the
bookings
in
2020,
2021
and
so
right
now
we're
about
four
percent
ahead
of
where
we
were
this
time
last
year
in
terms
of
the
number
of
female
bookings
coming
into
the
facility.
C
What
we're
also
seeing
is
shifts
in
terms
of
the
types
of
charges
that
women
are
coming
in
on,
and
so
what
you
see
on
the
graph
there
is,
the
percentage
of
bookings
is
on
the
axis.
Going
up
and
down
the
top
charge.
Defense
level
is
on
the
axis
going
across
the
Orange,
Line
represents
2014.,
and
the
percentage
of
bookings
coming
in
were
the
top
charge
was
within
those
categories.
The
dark
blue
line
represents
2022..
C
What
you
really
see
in
the
h
I
felony
categories
is
a
flip
right,
and
so
essentially,
what
we're
starting
to
see
is
women
are
coming
in
on
more
serious
charges
than
they
have
historically.
Okay,
a
lot
of
that
is
falling
in
that
hni
felony
category
I've
pulled
out
some
charges
that
I'm
seeing
most
frequently
on
those
bookings,
so
you
can
see
a
lot
of
them.
It's
property
and
substance
related
charges,
drug
related
charges.
C
C
Last
time
it
appears
what
Ross
is
saying
is
females
are
being
more
impacted
by
failure
to
appears
than
we
have
seen
previously
back
in
2014
about
20
percent
of
the
bookings
coming
in
for
female
applicants
coming
in
had
were
coming
in
only
for
failure
to
appear
for
the
first
failure
to
appear
this
year,
we're
seeing
enough
to
be
right
right
around
25
percent.
C
What's
also
going
what's
also
happening,
and
this
has
been
happening
actually
for
basically,
since
2015
is
the
length
of
stay
has
been
increasing,
and
so
back
in
2020
2014
about
six
days
on
average
is
what
we
saw.
The
female
population
experiencing
in
terms
of
average
Olympic
state
in
2022,
it's
almost
12
and
a
half
days.
So
quite
a
big
difference
in
terms
of
how
long
women
are
staying
in
custody.
I
think
that's
reflected
in
that
we've
seen
the
charges
become
more
serious
in
the
future.
C
So
just
to
sum
this
all
up
what
we're
seeing
with
the
female
population,
this
was
just
right-
has
been
slightly
different
than
what
we've
seen
with
the
male
population
is
because
of
our
driving
factors
are
increasing,
so
bookings
and
links
that
say
are
increasing
to
the
female
population.
C
E
I
have
two
questions,
one
of
the
the
one
that
had
the
year
over
year.
Comparison.
Yes,
there
were
that
one
yeah,
not
that
one,
the
next.
Yes,
yes,
one
of
those
two
kind
of
mountain
top
spikes
like
the
first.
C
One
in
there
so
the
first
one
is
H
felonies
and
then
on
the
blue
line,
and
then
the
other
mountain
top
on
the
blue
line
is
Class
one
misdemeanor,
and
that
was
mirrored
in
the
the
orange
line
as
well.
So
there's
that
Peak
that
last
Peak
on
the
that
you
kind
of
see
there
is
a
broad
misdemeanor
category
and
what
you
see
typically
falling
in
there
are
those
this
meaner,
probation.
C
Because
the
Bottom's
axis
is
the
most
serious
charge
on
the
booking:
oh
okay,
all
right
all
right!
So
in
2022,
let's
see
16
of
the
bookings
for
females
have
had
in
each
film.
Yes,.
C
Oh
there
it
is
yeah
yeah,
so
you
can
see.
I
mean
we've
also
seen
a
slight
uptick
with
the
class
E
felonies,
it's
very
very
slight
in
terms
of
the
percentage
the
bookings
coming
in,
but
the
biggest
difference
is
really
on
those
lower
level.
Felony
categories
you
know
back
in
2014,
you
know
the
vast
majority
were
were
misdemeanors
from
a
top
charge
perspective.
E
And
then,
how
do
how
do
how's
the
comparison
between
gender,
with
failure
to
appear.
C
E
I'm
wondering
the
reason
I
asked
this:
if
you're
failure
to
appear
can
be
triggered
by
lack
of
child
care
lack
of
access
Etc,
then
it
could
be
that
that's
a
driver
for
for
a
woman.
That's
a
primary
care
here.
Yeah.
D
F
D
F
G
I
know
what
they've
done
and
some
of
them
are
like
Palm
cards
and
the
banner
and
one
of
the
counties
they
worked
with
the
local
transit
system.
So
we're
sort
of
ahead
of
thought.
I
mean
this
new.
The
system
I
mean
put
your
name
and
find
out.
You
know
when
your
court
dates
are
that's
going
to
be
everything
by
mistake
this?
G
If
it,
you
know
once
it's
functions,
the
way
it's
supposed
to
well.
B
In
my
understanding,
I
mean
Robinson
and
New
Hanover
and
maybe
orange
are
also
in
talks
with
uptrust
the
private
company
that
provides
all
kinds
of
communications
with
clients
that
attorneys
can
do
using
their
phones.
It's
somewhat
Anonymous.
We
forwarded
with
uptrust
a
little
bit.
B
So
that's
also
what
they're
doing
now
our
court
notification
system
is
pretty
robust
and
and
much
better
than
what
the
state
has
offered
so
and
I
think
if
we
Implement
that
we'll
have
probably
better
turnout
and
it'll
be
cheaper
than
uptrust
was
going
to
be
free
for
a
year.
They
were
offering
their
service
kind
of
free
for
a
year,
and
then
there
was
a
bulk,
hey,
I,
can't
remember,
per
10,
000
clients
or
something
I
can't
remember.
B
The
the
particulars
but
I
was
I
was
eager
to
see
up
trust
because
what
uptrust
does,
in
addition
to
tracking
a
person's
a
client's
court
date.
It
also
allows
us
to
communicate
to
send
text
to
clients
using
the
uptrust
software.
So
we
can
have
our
phones
with
us
and
not
have
to
share
our
personal,
identifying
information
and
still
communicate
very
easily,
and
that
was
really
appealing
to
me
because
that's
something
that
the
county
doesn't
have
in
terms
of
the
notification
program,
but
nonetheless
I.
You
know
this.
C
Yeah
and
we
I
think
when
we
in
a
presentation,
I
did
last
time
cited
some
of
the
research.
That's
recently
come
out
looking
at
impact
of
you
know,
bonds
and
appearance,
and
that,
ultimately,
when
you
know
what
that
what
it
boils
down
to
is
that
people
have
Financial
barriers
that
prevent
them
or
access
resource
barriers
that
prevent
them
from
stepping
away
from
their
job
or
stepping
away
from
their
child
care
that
the
literature
is
suggesting
that
no
amount
of
bond
is
going
to
make
even
more
likely
to
show
up.
C
F
We'll
make
some
other
way
like
drugstorema
was
saying
once
we
like,
really
start
advertising
the
court
reminder
system,
putting
information
programs
getting
the
products
and
then
do
the
track
data,
but
even
just
looking
at
the
h
r
felonies
like
for
me
all
of
those
substance
use
and
poverty,
and
so
we're
gonna
keep
seeing
people
come
in
on
these
charges.
If
we're
not
treating
the
root
cause
of
substance,
use
and
limited
economic
mobility
in
our
community.
A
I
think
I
guess
three
years
ago,
when
I
got
here,
the
conversation
was
why.
Why
are
numbers
going.
A
F
Vera
is
to
for
justice,
worked
with
us
for,
like
the
past
two
years,
working
with
Community
providers
and
incarcerated
women
they're
going
to
release
their
report
and
their
findings
next
week,
I
believe
and
they're
going
to
do
a
press
release
and
then
they're
going
to
have
a
community
event.
I
believe
Grant,
November,
December
6th.
It's
in
this
room
and
they're
gonna
come
Vera
and.
A
But
just
we've
been
making
these
connections
and
I
think
for
us.
We
can
look
at
the
data
and
it's
very
telling,
but
hearing
from
the
folks
impacted
right,
what
do
they
need
from
a
supportive
perspectives
to
be
more
successful
and
not
entering
into
the
criminal
justice
system?
What
does
that
look
like
and
how
we
can
provide
supports
around
that?
So,
if
you
want
to
add
anything
French
you
can
but
I
didn't
I
know
I
didn't
prepare
you.
A
Any
more
questions
or
comments
for
Dr
Creighton,
seeing
none
I'll,
say
this
reminder.
Probably
every
machine
we're
going
to
have
standing
item
on
agenda,
just
look
at
the
data
and
have
some
discussions
around
it.
If
you
have
anything
in
particular
that
you're
interested
in
hearing
more
about
seeing
more
about
you
can
contact
me
or
email
me
directly
and
feel
prepared
that
information
or
a
subsequent
okay
right.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
The
next
item
is
just-
and
this
is
gonna
be
very
brief.
Most
of
you
all
recall,
we
spent
a
significant
amount
of
time
developing
a
strategic
plan
for
the
jreck
and
you'll
hear
today
that
there
is
some
work
happening
in
some
of
these
areas.
A
What
we
want
to
be
able
to
do
it
says
December
here,
but
I
think
we
might
need
a
little
more
time
is
to
go
back,
evaluate
all
those
goals
that
we
have
determine
if
we
made
any
progress
and
set
some
intention
around
planning
to
make
progress,
if
we
have
it,
and
so
most
of
you
I've
seen
this
is
on
our
website.
A
A
When
we
did
the
Strategic
plan,
is
we
added
a
standing
word
Group,
which
is
the
behavioral
health
Justice
collaborative?
So
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
see
here,
we
know
that's
impacting
folks
that
we
can't
necessarily
or
should
not
be
relied
on
to
deal
with
in
the
criminal
justice
system.
Is
the
behavioral
health
and
substance
use
issues
that
we
have,
and
so
we
know
that
there's
an
intersection
there,
and
so
this
group
is
a
arm
of
the
j-rack
and
they've
been
doing
some
good
work.
Trying
to
make.
A
You
know,
build
a
true
collaboration
to
work
towards
sorry
helping
to
solve
some
of
those
issues.
So
if
you
have
updates
to
the
Strategic
plan,
send
those
along
or
just
reports
on
the
activity
that
your
organization
is
doing,
the
plan
also
included
accountability.
So
read
it
we'll!
A
Maybe
we'll
have
we'll
send
it
back
out
to
you
if
you
haven't
looked
at
it
in
a
while
and
if
you
can
send
any
updates
that
you
have
to
Tiffany
so
that
we
can
plan
to
have
a
report
out
on
our
progress
and
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we
can
move
these
goals
forward
in
our
February.
So
I
said
December,
we'll
plan
to
talk
about
that.
A
All
right
so
we'll
pass
it
over
to
Tiffany
and
Ed
to
talk
about
the
work,
so
the
last
Jay
Rick
we
had.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
Ed
was
with
us
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
our
efforts
around
helping
supporting
people
to
restore
those
driver's
license,
and
so
we
admitted
to
after
that
continuing
those
discussions.
No
discussions
have
happened
and
so
they're
going
to
give
us
an
update
on
where
we
are.
F
But
essentially,
based
on
all
of
the
conversation
recommendations
from
this
party,
but
we
were
able
to
find
funding
to
help
support
the
demand
for
driver's
license
restoration,
so
with
grant
money
from
safety
and
Justice
Challenge,
and
it
will
have
a
full-time
legal
assistance
and
some
more
programs
support
dollars
to
help
out
more
folks
in
Bunker,
County
impacted
by
driver's
license
or
revocation
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Ed
to
talk
about
what
that
has
looked
like
so
far
where
they
end
the
process
and
then
a
little
bit
about
where
they
are
in
terms
of
its
function
and
possibly
at
its
function.
F
I
Thanks
everybody,
just
if
any
of
us
know
I'm
Ed
treat
I'm
a
Staff
attorney
at
physical,
legal
I
do
expunctions
and
driver's
license
restriction.
Obviously,
so
the
we
had
a
six-month
contract
that
ended
I
believe
September,
one
that
provided
ten
thousand
dollars
to
use
for
financial
aid
for
client
court
costs
and
DMV
fees.
We
recently
executed
a
new
contract,
that's
illegal
and
the
county
that
allocates
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
financial
assistance
and,
more
importantly,
covers
full
salary
and
benefits
for
a
legal
system
will
be
dedicated
to
the
driver's
license
restoration
program.
I
As
is
now
Episcopal.
I
share
a
legal
assistant
with
I
want
to
say
five
or
six
other
attorneys.
He
tells
them
to
80
of
his
time
and
that's
just
with
the
expansion
stuff.
I
really
don't
give
any
driver's
license
stuff.
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
huge
difference
maker
for
me,
a
lot
of
the
tasks
that
I
spend
my
time
on.
Frankly,
you
do
not
need
to
get
attorney
to
do
so.
That's
going
to
be
huge.
The
new
legal
system
is
transitioning
from
another
roll
of
pisca,
which
is
fantastic.
I
I
was
a
little
concerned.
It
might
take
a
while
to
get
somebody
onboard
it,
but
very
excited
about
that.
Her
name
is
Suzanne
Ponder
assuming
started
November
the
15th
I
think
she's
gonna
be
house
up
on
the
15th
floor.
She's
got
a
lot
of
experience
in
the
legal
field,
so
that's
going
to
be
great.
It's
going
to
really
make
us
run
more
efficiently.
I
I'm
hopeful
that
we're
really
going
to
get
to
the
point
of
events
that
we're
going
to
have
walk-ins
at
the
jrc.
If
somebody
comes
up
from
it
and
just
talks
to
Suzanne
and
I
get
signed
up
right
there,
just
to
give
you
some
of
the
things
the
idea
of
something
we
did.
I
The
goal
under
the
old
contract
was
to
provide
assistance
for
10
clients.
I
think
we
ended
up
doing
almost
25.
Some
folks
got
as
little
as
10
bucks
to
get
a
copy
of
the
record.
There
was
one
client
who
got
upwards
of
a
thousand
dollars
because
she
had
a
lot
of
fines
of
fees.
I
Average
amount
I
think
was
about
400
bucks.
It's
a
huge
range
and
a
lot
of
that.
We
were
quite
honestly
figuring
out
as
we
go
13
of
those
clients
together,
which
late
actually
got
their
licenses
back
or
became
eligible
to
do
so.
You
know,
pending
an
employment
at
DMV.
A
couple
others
who
started
under
that
contract
are
probably
going
to
become
eligible
soonish
process
with
DMV,
sometimes
waiting
periods.
That
kind
of
thing
so
we're
hoping
that,
with
the
with
the
legal
system,
we
can,
we
can
at
least
match
that
pace.
I
Been
meeting
with
jrc
staff
a
lot
of
folks
from
RHA
others
about
referrals,
we
don't
want
for
referrals,
it's
not
a
problem,
but
I
really
wanted
to
try
connecting
with
other
folks
in
the
courthouse,
because
it
makes
a
big
difference
from
my
perspective
to
know
that
that
client
already
has
a
support
system
in
place
where
I
know
they're
getting
service.
I
Sorry
I
know
they
have
a
case
manager
if
I
can't
find
them
if
they
lose
their
phone,
they
move
change,
addresses
and
don't
tell
me
I
feel
better
than
on
the
phone,
and
we've
had
great
successes
too,
with
some
other
agencies
where
a
caseworker
literally
loaned
the
client
his
or
her
car.
So
they
could
take
the
road
test
at
DME,
which
could
be
a
solid
block
for
supplied
so
that
those
kind
of
Partnerships
are
really
important.
I
We
have
about
six
eight
folks
lined
up
already
or
in
progress,
so
I,
don't
think
we're
gonna
have
a
problem.
I
Getting
getting
50
folks
helped
it's
just
a
question
of
kind
of
you
know
deciding
what
we're
going
to
prioritize
on
because
of
the
legal
system
and
because
we're
getting
a
little
bit
better
at
this
as
we
go
I'm
hoping
that
this
is
going
to,
let
us
do
some
things:
Beyond,
Direct
Services,
that's
that's
very
important,
but
there
needs
to
be
some
kind
of
systems
put
in
place
here
where
folks
are
more
able
to
help
themselves
without
me,
there's
never
going
to
be
enough
free
attorneys
to
do
this
here
or
anywhere
in
North
Carolina,
so
like
to
work
on
expanding
access
to
Pro
Se
reliefs.
I
There
are.
There
are
things
that
clients
can
do
on
their
own,
particularly
in
a
place
like
bunker,
where
we
have
a
lot
of
buy-in
we're
going
to
look
to
at
representing
very
high
impact
High
e
clients
at
DMV,
Administrative
Hearings,
not
all
clients
have
new
hearings,
but
some
of
them
do
and
the
hearings
are
not
particularly
hard.
It's
not
it's
not
a
trial,
it's
not
the
Supreme
Court,
but
for
a
client
who's
hiding
high
impact
having
to
turn
in
there
is
going
to
help
a
lot.
That's
very
time
consuming
I.
D
I
Of
if
they
do
it
like
to
meet
them,
but
I'm
going
to
learn
to
do
those
and
figure
it
out.
In
addition,
we
have
a
veterans
law,
generals
attorney,
Misty
Greene.
She
is
trained
on
driver's
license
restoration
and
expunction
work
as
well.
With
me,
the
generalist
she's
got
a
lot
of
things
to
do
for
veterans.
She
doesn't
just
come
with
bunk
him,
so
she's
got
a
full
plate,
but
she's
she's
interested
in
doing
some
of
that
work
for
veterans
in
both
of
them.
So
that's
that's
going
to
help
that's
going
to
expand
our
capacity.
I
I
think
she
and
I
are
going
to
try
people
here
and
for
one
of
her
clients,
hopefully
early
next
spring,
also
looked
at
partnering
with
with
some
other
institutions
around
the
region,
a
social
worker
at
one
of
the
local
Correctional
Facilities
expressed
interest
in
setting
up
sort
of
a
pro
se
toolkit
for
his
for
his
clients,
where
they
can
start
petitioning
Courts
for
debt
relief
before
they
even
release,
not
sure
that's
ever
going
to
fly,
but
we're
going
to
try
it
again.
There
needs
to
be
those
systems
in
place.
I
D
I
Generally,
increase
use
of
those
motions
among
the
crochet
folks
and
welcome
I,
think
I
think
that's
doable.
There's
there's
a
web-based
toolkit
for
those
motions
that
we're
going
to
try
to
disseminate
it's
supposed
to
be
you
know.
User
friendly
and
usually
accessible
just
generally
need
to
keep
working
to
build
coalitions
with
other
providers
around
the
state,
and
it
really
helps
me
and
I've
said
this
to
the
RHA
folks
in
particular.
I
If
a
client
comes
to
me
with
their
record
already
in
hand,
if
that
agency
has
discretionary
funds,
they
can
spend
that
10
bucks
to
get
them
their
record.
I
hate
that
clients
have
to
buy
their
own
records
of
DMV.
It
is
what
it
is.
I
can
get
them
for
free,
but
it
takes
a
long
time.
So
folks,
who
come
to
me,
supported
and
with
that
with
that
network
is
really
really
crucial,
and
it
just
makes
me
know,
they're
a
good
risk
for
my
time.
I
G
I
I
The
first
thing
I'll
probably
do
is
direct
them
to
the
the
NC
pro
bono,
Resource
Centers
advice,
letter
Clinic,
where
they
get
a
free
copy
of
their
their
record
and
they
get
an
advice
letter
written
by
an
attorney.
It's
not
it's,
not
a
free
eternity
represent
them
in
court,
but
it's
a
start
and
it's
more
than
99
of
most
folks
are
going
to
get
because
they
don't
even
have
to
get
a
copy.
I
That
record
is
high
on
my
wish
list
someday
to
see
access
to
DMV
records
publicly
available
free
of
charge
in
Buncombe,
County
I
know
why
DMV
charges
for
records.
We
can
all
imagine
why
they
do.
You
know
we'll
have
Revenue
we
have
to.
We
have
to
make
up,
but
asking
a
homeless
client
to
spend
ten
dollars
to
get
their
record
when
they
a
you.
May
not
have
internet
access
a
credit
card
and
win
ten
dollars
is
a
real
hardship.
That
is
a
problem.
I
Free
copies
of
records
for
clients,
but
there's
more
unfortunately,
and
I
have
used
the
financial
aid
in
some
instances
to
do
that
for
clients,
if
it's
urgent
but
I,
would
love
to
see
a
world
where
you
can
at
least
get
your
own
record
for
free
to
know
why
your
license
is
suspended.
That
seems
that
seems
pretty
reasonable
to
me.
I
I
D
F
Or
even
as
we
try
to
like
interrupt
intergenerational
trauma
and
violence-
and
you
guys
do
a
lot
of
thinking
work,
but
there's
people
who
are
using
the
perpetrator,
who
are
trying
to
get
their
lives
back
on
track
that
end
up
being
conflicted
out
to
they
have
any
recourse
besides
physical
legal
or
are
they
on
their.
I
I
Obviously,
so
it's
not
just
me
for
15
counties,
and
yet
that
is
a
problem
where
we
do
I've
seen
that
anecdote
I've
seen
the
abuser,
who
is
the
opposing
party
on
the
Piston
case,
come
to
me
for
for
driver's
license
and
conflict
of
interest
as
all
the
attorneys
who
can
tell
you
it's
it's
not
always
a
black
and
white
thing,
but
you
know
it
is
an
Ethics
issue
and
we
do
have
to
be
very
careful
with
that,
and
it
does
mean
saying
no
to
folks
who
would
really
benefit
from
some
health
for
sure.
So.
I
B
Appending
criminal
charge
all
often
kickstart
an
investigation
into
restoration
right,
so
the
public
defender's
office
does
a
lot
of
this
work
because
their
clients
have
pending
traffic
charges
or
other
charges,
and
we
work
very
closely
with
the
DA's
office
to
try
to
to
try
to
get
as
much
as
we
can
done
here
at
Bunker
County.
You
know
when
it
reaches
out
to
other
counties
that
there's
failures
to
appear
in
other
counties
or
other
states.
B
D
I
I
was
I
think
we
do
a
lot
better
than
a
lot
of
counties.
It's
not
perfect
by
any
means,
but
as
long
as
everybody
is
I
can't
say
enough
good
things
about
the
support
I
get
from
Meredith
and
her
staff
they're
not
giving
away
this
dwarf.
There's
some
things
I'm
not
asking
for,
but
we
can
have
those
conversations
and
just
the
willingness
elicit
is
there
and
the
415
motions
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
I
That's
something
that
we
really
need
to
see
used
at
a
broader
Statewide
level.
I've
had
experience,
calling
Clerk's
offices
in
other
counties
not
too
far
away.
They've,
never
heard
of
those
motions,
they're
Happening,
Here
Without
The,
because
you
know,
because
that's
the
kind
of
access
we
have
so
I'm
grateful
for
that.
It
makes
a
huge
difference.
I
Yes,
real,
quick,
it's
function,
update,
I,
think
it's
first
second
week
of
March
we're
aiming
to
do
an
expansion
Clinic
here
in
Buncombe
County,
with
support
from,
of
course,
the
District
Attorney's
Office.
The
judges,
of
course,
staff.
I
It's
going
to
make
some
nice
work
for
them,
and
a
couple
professors
from
Duke,
University
and
Campbell
law
are
going
to
provide
10
to
12
student
volunteers,
who
are
going
to
come
to
us
fully
trained
highly
motivated
ready
to
roll
they're
going
to
draft
we're
hoping
two
to
three
hundred
petitions
in
that
week,
using
a
provision
of
the
second
chance
act,
it's
called
raise
the
age
until
2019,
North
Carolina.
I
If
you
were
16
or
17,
you
were
treated
as
an
adult
with
a
lot
of
charges
of
raise
the
age
provision
makes
it
a
lot
easier
to
expunge
those
convictions
than
it
would
be.
Otherwise.
Additionally-
and
this
is
the
real
important
piece-
is
that
the
District
Attorney's
Office
can
file
those
petitions
so
I
file
those
petitions
on
half
individual
clients
all
the
time.
I
Okay,
it's
very
labor
intensive,
but
it's
very
time
consuming
because
we're
sort
of
doing
one
petition,
one
petition
we're
going
to
sort
of
do
them
in
Mass
here
and
it
sounds
crazy,
but
the
defendant
does
not
actually
have
to
be
involved.
It's
because
it
is
filed
by
the
District
Attorney's
office.
We're.
I
To
notify
them
obviously
of
this
this
benefit,
but
they
do
not
have
to
be
involved.
So
it's
going
to
be
faster.
It's
going
to
be
more
efficient.
I
I
would
not
undertake
this
project
without
the
visiting
professors
involved,
because
it
could
end
up
being
a
lot
of
loose
ends
for
everybody
to
clean
up
after
they're
gone
professor's
door
and
Mr
are
two
of
the
experts
in
North
Carolina
on
expansions
they're,
the
folks
that
I
go
to
when
I
have
prescription
questions.
So
if
they
tell
me
this
is
going
to
be
a
value.
I
Add
for
physical,
the
students
are
gonna
be
out
here
for
about
a
week
like
I,
said,
knock
those
petitions
out
meet
with
the
meet
with
the
defendants,
where
they
can
and
I'm
grateful
for
all
the
more
we've
gotten
for
that
it
is
going
to
make
work
for
people
other
than
myself.
So
that's
I
really
appreciate
that
I'm
keeping
the
clerk's
office
very
busy
with
my
individual
position,
so
I
appreciate
that.
I
We're
going
to
try
to
notify
that
those
who
receive
Relief
by
mail,
all
we
will
have
is
old,
addresses
on
the
old
quarter
files.
It's
better
nothing
and
we're
thinking
we're
going
to
set
up
a
website
too,
where
folks
can
can
look
themselves
up
and
see
if
they
receive
D
and
so
in
the
future.
But
we've
had
some
good
conversations.
I
think
we
found
some
space
where
we
can
have
the
students,
work,
expert
and
I'm
grateful
for
that.
There's
bios
for
the
professors
there.
If
you
care.
D
I
A
J
A
All
right
thanks
so
much
we
are
doing
good
on
time.
The
next
item
is
Justice
Services,
three
entry
programs,
we're
going
to
hear
from
Ron
Harrison
and
Grant
Bay,
hello,.
J
So
I'm
Ron
Harrison
I'm
the
program
manager
for
the
jail
diversion
original
services
with
RHA.
J
So
he
called
up
on
that
now.
So.
J
So
we
have
there's
something
for
everyone.
You
know
people
are
at
custody.
We've
been
we're
looking
at
the
word
assessing
their
units.
Let
them
require
things
on
those
lines,
so
we
have
three
different
programs.
We
have
a
substitute
diversion
program,
this
individual,
the
primary
substance,
use
substance.
Abuse
diagnosis
are
able
to
we're
able
to
divert
them
to
achievement
percentage,
but
fortunately
we
don't
have
very
many
they're
accepting
folks
from
the
jail
right
now
you
play
from
diverting
it
about
five
people
a
week.
Okay,
that's
20.
J
2
to
three
a
month,
a
lot
of
folks
and
that's
just
a
problem.
That's
in
our
community
in
general,
explain
the
government
will
not
accept
folks
from
the
jail.
That's
a
favorite
issues.
They
have
juveniles.
There
paid
acts
killing
handles
so
much
so
we're
trying
to
be
real
creative
of
how
we
are
diverting
folks
from
jail
back
into
the
community,
because
that's
what
they
need
to
be,
not
everyone,
that's
in
there,
I
guess
they're
being
charged,
but
they
don't
in
jail.
So
we
have
to
be
real
creative
about
how
we're
going
to
do
this.
J
J
J
Those
are
a
little
bit
difficult
to
work
with,
just
because
they're
the
resources
opportunities,
whether
they're
enhanced
Services
act
teams,
CST
teams,
they're
very
cool
right
now.
So
what
do
we
do
with
these
folks?
That's
what
we're
asking
ourselves
a
lot
of
the
times.
How
are
we
going
to
divert
someone
when
there's
no
resources
there
or
no
need
to
earn
it,
come
across
this
barrier
every
single
day
back,
including
for
providers
to
come
to
the
jail,
so
they
can
screen
their
folks,
but
in
trying
to
give
those
linked
to
the
appropriate
Services.
J
J
J
Our
biggest
thing
is
removing
entitled
with
many
areas
as
possible
before
people
are
released,
whether
that
is
you
know,
housing
insecurity,
food
and
security,
lack
of
identification,
whatever
barium
may
be.
We
are
trying
to
do
that,
leveraging
our
partners
in
the
community
to
try
to
get
things
established.
As
we
all
know,
people
get
out
every
day
and
once
they
get
out,
what
are
they
going
to
do?
This
team
meets
them
at
the
door.
We
will
link
them
to
the
housing.
J
Temporary
housing
started
that
first,
because
what
we
found
out
and
what
we
know
this
is
if
they
don't.
If
people
don't
know
where
they're
going
to
sleep
tonight,
they're
not
going
to
go,
get
an
assessment,
that's
being
court,
ordered
they're
not
going
to
try
and
I
might
not
follow
up
with
probation
they're
going
to
try
to
survive.
So
we're
trying
to
wait
folks
with
Hauser
several
of
the
transitional
housing
folks
in
our
community
right
now,
and
once
we're
doing
that.
That's
what
we're
able
to
start
tackling
some
of
these
other
needs
that
they
may
have.
J
J
What
is
that
facilities
might
not
be
there?
The
waitlist
to
get
Behavioral
Health
is
long.
So
folks,
what
are
folks
going
to
do
they?
They
still
reach
out
they're,
coming
up
to
the
justices.
They're
coming
up
to
the
14th
floor,
they're
meeting
US
military
will
be
wherever
they
are.
We
are
there
to
meet
them
to
try
to
remove
as
many
barriers
as
possible,
important.
J
Next
slide,
these
are
some
of
the
outcomes
since
January
of
2021
to
April
31st,
that's
was
the
last
quarter
of
us.
We
were
able
to
explain
567
people
in
custody
out
of
those
567
276
actively
engaged
with
us.
Actually,
the
season
started
to
follow
up
things
like
that.
We've
been
declined
quite
a
bit
out
of
those.
You
can
see
the
percentages
up
there,
Specialty
Care
appointments,
that's
whether
that's
linking
them
to
economic
benefits,
to
a
primary
care
position.
J
65
of
these
people
refer
to
mental
health
and
substitutions,
considering
that
we're
with
our
community.
We
have
that
in
there,
where
we're
able
to
set
it
up
for
folks
to
get
assessments,
but
it
is
client's
Choice
wherever
they
want
to
get
treatment
from.
We
will
link
them
and
follow
them
and
go
to
the
appointments
with
them.
J
J
J
And
this
is
just
when
we're
checking
in
with
them.
What
we
tried
to
do
was
hit
folks
that
first
month
that
they
were
released
from
custody,
you
probably
hit
it
with
everything
we're
in
their
faces,
we're
there
checking
on
the
environmental
resources
that
they
need
and,
as
folks
are
continuing
to
progress
to
our
program,
we're
not
seeing
what
they're
using
the
last
one
is
the
folks
that
have
worked
with
our
community
team.
We
have
not
had
any
of
any
openings.
J
J
J
J
Officer
and
things
like
that,
we
want
that
free
diversion
anyway,
take
them
to
their
balance,
taking
them
to
the
hospital
rather
than
just
bringing
them,
but
if
we
ever
determine
that
someone
does
meet
that
criteria,
while
they're
in
custody
we're
able
to
reach
out
to
the
hospital
and
say
hey,
these
are
the
symptoms.
That's
going
on
right
now.
This
person
is
that
dangerous.
B
A
H
Bailey
I'm
the
coordinator
of
the
Buncombe
County
re-entry
Council,
and
just
quickly
it
was
something
these
local
re-entry
councils
that
came
out
of
the
governor's
Street
safe
task
force
back
in
2010
when
Bev
Purdue
was
governor.
One
of
the
recommendations
that
went
up
was
to
have
these
hubs
of
these
local
re-entry
councils
to
assist
individuals
with
criminal
backgrounds,
criminal
justice
involvement
and
being
here
and
a
part
of
Ron's
team
and
I
feel
like
somewhere.
Somebody
was
listening
to
me
as
I
kept
yelling
from
the
rooftop.
H
All
reentry
is
not
the
same
jail
reentry
and
prison.
Reentry
look
totally
different.
I
think
Lee
said
the
average
state
for
a
woman,
that's
like
12
days,
but
sometimes
I
get
a
woman
coming
out
after
12
years,
so
somebody
leaving
the
jail
after
12
days
and
somebody
leaves
from
prison
after
12
years.
It's
going
to
be
completely
different
as
to
what
they
need
mentality.
If
you've
been
in
jail
12
days,
your
network
is
probably
still
in
place
out
here.
H
12
years
you
might
have
not
talked
to
people
in
a
while,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
I'm
able
to
focus
on
Prison
re-entry
Buncombe
County
averages
about
700
releases
from
State
Prison
per
year
and
I'm
George
Thornburg
have
that
number
off
top
of
his
head.
It's
kind
of
like
a
revolving
door,
so
probably
about
700.
People
are
going
to
prison
from
Buncombe
County
each
year
and
maybe
five
or
so
maybe
get
a
life
sentence
right.
H
So
the
majority
of
folk
in
prison
are
being
released
that
coming
out
and
it
just
is
beneficial
to
us
as
a
community
to
assist
individuals.
You
can
go
so
the
councils
are
this:
collaboration
of
agencies,
organizations,
service
providers,
work
together
to
increase
Public
Safety
by
reducing
recidivism.
That
was
kind
of
the
goal
you
want
to
reduce
recidivism.
You
want
to
stop
people
from
re-entering
and
for
us
we
Define
that
as
re-enter
in
prison.
H
So
that
doesn't
mean
that
one
of
my
participants,
if
if
they
have
some
contact
with
law
enforcement
or
maybe
booked
into
the
jail
for
something
if
they
don't
go
back
to
prison
I,
don't
count
that
as
recidivate.
So
that's
just
my
program
because
we're
working
with
those
coming
out
of
prison
all
right.
H
There
it
is
again
recently
released
from
prison
and
it
says
State
Prison,
but
we
do
assist.
That
is
the
third
one
people
coming
out
of
federal
prison,
but
those
referrals
are
very
small.
The
majority
come
from
prison
case
managers
and
probation,
parole
or
completely
completed
sentence.
Understand
why
Mr
Phoenix
misdemeanor
confinement
program
so
a
lot
of
times
those
people
in
jail,
maybe
send
us
to
91
days
or
more
and
going
to
do
all
their
time
in
the
jail,
and
so
we
will
assist
them
as
well.
H
We
treat
that
as
a
prison
release,
so
basically
people
come
in.
They
kind
of
tell
us
what
their
needs
are,
and
typically
those
are
going
to
fall
in
one
of
these
four
categories.
Our
program
is
completely
voluntary.
Not
court
ordered
not
a
condition
of
their
probation.
They
do
not
have
to
come,
see
us
if
they
come.
It's
because
they
say
I'm
putting
their
hand
up
saying.
I
want
some
help
with
that
being
said,
the
average
age
of
our
participant
is
40
years
old.
H
So
we
know
younger
people
are
being
released,
they're
just
not
really
reaching
out
to
us.
You
know
I
like
to
say,
because
they
they
got
another
run
of
them.
H
Yeah
we've
been
around
since
2014,
so
the
funding
first
came
from
DPS
in
2014
and
word
is
around
now.
So
you
know
we
get
referrals
from
people
while
they're
still
in
prison,
but
the
majority
do
come
from
probation
parole,
so
they're
required
to
meet
with
everybody
coming
out
of
prison
has
nine
months
or
12
months,
Post,
Release
supervision
and
they're
required
to
meet
with
that
officer
within
72
hours
of
release
and
they're,
probably
going
to
hear
about
us
from
them.
H
D
H
Basically,
they
come
in,
they
tell
us
what
they
need.
It
falls
in
the
one
of
four
categories:
employment
assistance,
housing,
Transportation
or
educational
goals,
and
that
could
be
from
completing
High
School,
all
the
way
through
post,
Grant
or
whatnot.
Whatever
their
goals
are,
and
the
evidence
says,
if
you
assess
people
in
these
four
areas,
then
their
chances
of
recidivating
is
drastically
reduced.
So
if
people
can
have
stable
housing
and
stable
employment,
another
joke
that's
kind
of
a
joke,
but
I
share
with
participants.
All
the
time
I
asked.
Did
you
get
arrested
at
work?
H
They
typically
say
no
I
said
that's
the
reason
they
have
two
or
three
jobs.
This
is
your
chances
and
but
you
can
see
I
wanted
to
give
some
numbers
19
pre-pandemic,
so
170
receive
employment
assistance,
that's
170
people
we
verified,
received
a
job
after
coming
in
and
engaging
with
us.
We
think
the
numbers
higher,
but
sometimes
we're
not
able
to
stay
in
touch
with
folks.
H
See
the
number
low
seven
educational
assistants
average
age
of
our
participant
is
40.
a
lot
of
them
not
really
motivated
to
go
back
to
school
and
I
know
we
offer
wonderful
classes
and
different
certifications
and
it's
going
to
help,
but
a
lot
of
times
they
come
out.
They
have
financial
responsibility.
Already
they
got
to
pay
probation,
they
got
children,
advertise
40,
some
of
them
kids
getting
older,
they're
teenagers
and
they
just
a
lot
of
those
things.
So
employment
becomes
the
priority.
H
Not
so
much
school
147
receive
Transportation
assistance,
that's
the
good
old
bus
pass
and
what
we
do
is
provide
that
for
their
first
30
days,
because
our
goal
is
to
get
them
employed
within
that
time
and
then
they
can
start
buying
their
own
bus.
Pass.
63
received
transitional
housing
assistance.
We
pay
for
their
first
30
days
and
what
we
do.
We
eggs
the
housing
providers,
because
some
of
them
do
charge
an
entrance
fee
and
we
understand
why
you
bring
someone
in
you
do
a
lot
of
work
and
then
they
go
on
in
three
days.
H
Well,
if
you
got
an
interest
fee
at
least
you
can
recoup
something
from
some
of
the
work
you've
done,
but
as
a
partner
with
us,
we
ask
them
to
waive
the
entrance
fee
and
we
paid
their
first
month
again.
Our
goal
is
to
try
to
get
them
to
work
and
within
those
first
30
days,
and
then
they
can
start
paying
for
that.
They
sell
so
tonight,
2019
pre-packed
them
2020
code.
H
D
D
H
Right
so
21
we
kind
of
still
in
the
midst
of
it,
but
you
can
see
numbers
starting
to
go
back
up
a
bit
and
then
I
don't
know
if
we
now
post
pandemic.
What
we
calling
this-
and
this
is
through
October
31st,
so
we
still
have
two
more
months
to
go
and
you
can
kind
of
see
the
referrals
and
the
numbers
and
the
people
we
serving
kind
of
picking
back
up.
So
I
kept
it
with
the
main
things
we
do.
There
are
some
ancillary
things
we
do
as
well
as
myself.
H
B
H
For
that
come
from
all
over
and
now
they
try
to
do
their
best
to
get
people
transferred,
they're
close
to
that
release
date,
because
if
you
down
in
Tabor
Correctional,
the
PO
gonna
have
to
drive
down
there
to
pick
you
up.
So
they
do
their
best
to
try
to
get
people
back
here
prior
to
release.
But
people
do
their
time
all
over.
B
H
A
good
question
I
want
to
say
over
represented,
but
I
definitely
say:
we've
seen
the
numbers
of
women
serve
increasing
with
each
year,
so
definitely
more
and
more
women
are
being
incarcerated
and
then
kind
of
seeking
our
assistance
to
once
they
get
out.
Another
big
deal
with
that
is
a
lot
of
the
highest
priority
for
women
being
released
is
reunification
with
their
children
right.
So
that's
a
big
thing:
we
try
to
help
them
on
and
work
with
them
all
and
you.
D
H
Not
to
not
to
step
on
my
brothers,
but
a
lot
of
them
don't
come
out
with
that
personally,
like
they're
the
priority
right
for
them.
It's
like
work,
they
got
to
get
to
work,
got
to
get
to
work,
and
it's
not
that
I
don't
want
to
be
reunified
with
my
children,
but
I
definitely
don't
want
child
support
after
me.
So
let
me
start
working,
get
this
money
and
get
that
stuff
going.
A
So
it's
a
Sam's,
Point
I
was
going
to
ask
the
question,
but
do
you
have
demographics
on
all
your
yeah.
H
Yeah
so
again,
initially
I
thought
I
was
sharing
like
10
15
minutes
with
Ron,
so
I
kind
of
kept
it
bare
bone
skeleton,
so
I
didn't
go
into
like
breaking
out
men,
women
and
all
those
different
things,
but
again
not
over
represented
per
se,
but
definitely
we've
seen
them
numbers
go.
Are
the
women's
coming
from
Swannanoa
some
of
them
so.
H
A
D
A
H
I
would
say
that
so,
like
you
mentioned,
some
people
don't
really
need
what
we
offer
like
they
come
out.
They
got
good
family
support,
sometimes
that
family's
already
line
them
up
a
job
different
things
like
that.
So
great
I
think
the
biggest
Gap
is
the
younger
people
who
are
being
released
and
not
necessarily
reaching
out
to
us
for
assistance,
and
so,
let's
just
kind
of
due
to
immaturity
right,
like
I,
still
got.
H
You
know
when
you're
younger,
like
you
just
don't
you
go,
make
it,
and
so
I
still
got
all
these
plans
and
these
different
things,
and
that
was
just
a
little
snafu,
but
I
don't
need
what
they
offering
and
they
also
view
us
as
an
extension
of
the
system.
So
they
come
in
the
courthouse
and
they
go
see
their
po.
Then
the
PO
tell
them
about
us
or
they
think
I'm.
An
extra
Po
and
I'm
gonna
be
telling
APO
about
all
they
moves,
and
so,
for
whatever
reason
they
just
ain't
reaching
out
now
those
same
individuals.
H
Unfortunately,
after
that
next
run
yeah,
you
start
to
get
tired
of
being
sick
and
tired,
and
then
you
start
to
reach
out,
but
I
would
say.
If
there
was
anything
you
could
do
to
kind
of
make
the
younger
people
being
released
or
even
currently
incarcerated
to
help
them
be
aware
of
the
services
and
the
benefits
of
reaching
out
and
connecting
I
think
that
could
help,
but
free
pandemic
out
of
the
700
every
seven
we
were
sent
about
300..
So
we
get,
we
were
seeing
about
25
new
intakes
a
month.
H
G
F
G
B
I
think
that,
from
my
experience,
inmates
have
a
better
experience
with
their
case
manager
in
the
prison.
So
if
particularly
with
the
women,
if
we
can,
if
we
got
five
points
of
contact
in
the
system,
we
can
just
tell
those
case:
managers
listen
if
they're
going
to
funkin
County,
you
know
send
them
to
this
program.
B
G
B
That's
the
problem
with
the
Post
Release
referral
that
you
were
mentioning
is
that
if
once
they
hear
it
from
their
po,
it's
like
oh
I'm,
you
know
I,
don't
have
to
do
that,
I'm
not
going
to
do
it
yeah.
So
it's
I
think
a
case
manager,
though
hearing
it
from
a
case
manager,
because
they
often
have
a
better
working
relationship
with
their
case
managers
as
they.
You
know,
as
they're
matriculating
out
of
the
system
and.
H
H
Plan
then
they'll
give
them
our
information,
but
if
they
don't
and
they're
going
to
be
released
homeless,
then
we
start
to
hear
from
them
before
they
release
and
and
credit
to
a
lot
of
people
we
serve.
They
reach
out
to
us
on
their
own.
They
hear
about
us
and
they
start
writing
us,
and
so
we
engaged
from
that
point.
But
I
have
a
good
relationship
with
the
case
managers
across
the
state
so
but
yeah
so
just
over
yeah
I
get
it
and
we
want
them
to
engage.
H
F
F
Yes,
please,
when
it
comes
to
gun
violence
in
our
community,
initial
funding
came
from
the
safe
and
Justice
Challenge
and
we
partnered
with
a
few
agencies
to
kind
of
do
some
mentorship
economic
development
trauma
resiliency
training,
and
then
we
worked
on
a
plan
which
Jay
Hackett
so
graciously
worked
through
and
we're
wrapping
it
up,
finalizing
it
working
with
Kate
to
getting
ready
for
publication.
F
Since
that
time,
we
did
research
as
well.
We
got
some
violent
Interruption
models
that
welcome.
Asheville
has
never
done
before
we
received
funding
from
Key
funding
sources,
thankful
for
the
Commissioners,
some
of
that
50
million
dollars.
One
million
of
that
went
to
the
recommended
violence,
Interruption
model
number
selected
chasm
and
also
got
funding
from
the
federal
government
who
had
about
100
million
that
they
wanted
to
invest
in
communities
who
were
one
of
the
communities
selected.
F
So
in
totality
we
have
about
2.5
million
dollars
over
three
or
four
years,
and
we
understand
that
this
is
a
decades
generational
long
issue,
so
you're
just
stepping
our
toes
into
this
work.
What
that
will
look
like
an
implementation,
we're
working
with
Chasm?
Who
does
this
Across
the
Nation?
They
look
at
holistic
approaches,
not
just
the
street
teams,
but
working
through
a
coalition,
and
that
was
required
in
the
Federal
grant
as
well.
F
F
We'll
have
a
program
manager
to
supervise
the
street
team
while
we
build
the
Coalition
and
we
also
have
a
county
Grant
manager
to
I
also
heard
the
cats,
but
you
know
to
keep
the
ball
on
the
train
and
try
it
I
actually
just
finished
attending
a
violence,
Interruption
conference
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
that
I
would
love
to
do
that.
F
We
not
doing
well
either
is
creating
a
partnership
with
the
hospital
because,
of
course
those
were
gunshot
victims
are
coming
in
and
that
could
be
the
first
point
of
contact
to
being
trauma
informed
at
the
hospital
having
a
community
health
worker
there
to
support
them,
and-
and
so
that's
not
even
on
any
plan
right
now,
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
guys
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
happening
in
hospitals
as
well,
not
just
in
communities
and
so
I
think
from
this
group.
F
Recognizing
it's
not
just
the
work
of
this
routine
or
the
work
of
the
hospital
or
law
enforcement
virus
Keen,
but
it's
a
collective
approach
to
reducing
gun
violence
in
certain
communities.
So
when
we
get
to
that
point-
and
we
have
a
staff
of
place
to
pull
the
work
together.
A
E
I
think
well,
it's
amazing.
Congratulations
on
the
most
of
your
funded
I
think
it's
important
that
of
this,
how
the
process
went
from
the
security
engagement
and
the
work
of
safety
and
Justice
to
actually
engage
it,
that
that
that
research,
that
was
so
important
and
critically
done
with
Rob
Thomas
and
the
folks
there
and
recommending,
because
it
was
so
well
done-
I
think
it's
important
for
the
community
to
see
and
hear
that
the
work
that
they
did
actually
made
it
to
decision
makers
actually
has
been
funded.
E
It
has
the
full
support
of
the
jreck.
Those
types
of
things
are
intangible,
but
they
go
a
long
way
with
Community
sentiments
so
that
folks
can
actually
know
that
that
those
people
that
are
behind
the
same
actually
working
on
a
solution
and
other
than
Community
voice
to
Tiffany's
last
point
about
community
health
workers
in
hospitals.
That's
a
phenomenal
model
of
actually
we
were
part
of
it
being
done
back
in
2015
with
the
Baltimore
Alliance
social
Community
Health.
E
They
actually
have
community
health
workers
and
hospitals
at
Johns,
Hopkins,
University,
and
so
and
it's
it's
been
continue
to
grow
over
time.
So
if
you
need
a
direct
contact
there,
we
are,
they
have
that.
A
I
agree,
I
think
we
asked
for
a
lot
of
time.
I
know
we
have,
as
of
lately,
asked
for
Community
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
with
us
and
it's
good
for
them
to
see
it
come
back
to
them
and
that
we're
actually
listening
and
hearing
their
voices
and
making
policy
and
implementing
programs
in
line
with
what
they
Texas
told
us
baby
right
all
right
anything
else.
A
On
that
item
we
usually
have
announcements
on
the
agenda,
so
I
will
give
space
to
see
if
anybody
wants
to
want
to
share
any
announcement
from
your
offices,
departments
or
organization.
A
All
right:
well,
we
do
have
a
meeting
next
month.
We
usually
we're.
We
usually
go
alternate,
but
we
counseled
the
I,
think
it
was
the
September
meeting.
So
that's
why
we're
having
this
meeting
today
and
we'll
get
back
on
schedule
and
have
our
December
2nd
meeting
we'll
be
in
the
same
place
here
in
person
and
if
nothing
else,
I
entertain.
E
There
are
announced
announcements,
number
one
code
think
is
having
their
Community
event
November
5th.
That's
tomorrow,
night
I
don't
have
the
details,
but
it's
all
over
in
the
emails
on
their
website.
Please,
please
support
them
such
critical
program
in
our
community
and
black
Black
Wall
Streets
second
year
anniversary
is
next
Saturday,
not
at
6
p.m.
Everyone
is
welcome
invite
to
support
the
local
black
entrepreneurs.
However,
they
get
started
and
growing.
F
Okay,
yeah
Rachel,
her
sharing
is
what
department
has
been
writing
me.
So
Cheryl
Roland
who's
from
Asheville
College
went
and
emailed
to
DC.
He
was
wrongly
incarcerated
for
a
few
years,
similar
to
click
Broward.
It's
like
Larson.
He
charges
I
finally
got
dismissed
and
dropped.
He
was
an
art
major
at
UNCG
and
then
he
just
took
his
experience
and
created
art
from
it
and
there
is
to
The
Exodus.
F
Exhibit
going
on
at
the
Asheville
Art
Museum
I
believe
this
first
day
is
the
Friday,
the
18th
we'll
be
there
for
a
few
more
days
months,
I'll
be
there
tomorrow,
let's
yeah
sorry,
but
so
I
would
just
encourage
us
all
to
check
it
out,
support
we
talk
about
Criminal,
Justice,
Reform
and
so
he's
from
our
community.
The
second
experience
using
art
as
a
form
of
expression,
of
course,
folks
too
go
and
support
the
exhibit.