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From YouTube: Justice Resource Advisory Council Meeting (June 3, 2022)
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A
Good
afternoon
everybody
I
have
about
12
32,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
We
have
a
pretty
healthy
agenda.
Thank
you
all
for
attending
the
june
2022
justice
resource
advisory
council
meeting
before
I
call
the
role
I'd
like
to
just
take
some
time
to
recognize
that
today
is
june.
A
3Rd
is
national
gun
violence
awareness
day
and
to
also
acknowledge
the
horrendous
tragedies
and
mass
shootings
that
have
occurred
in
the
last
few
weeks
in
our
country
on
may
14th,
a
racist
attack
on
a
supermarket
and
community
in
buffalo
new
york
that
left
10
people
murdered
and
then
10
days
later,
another
mass
shooting
in
uvalde
texas
that
left
among
them
19
children
and
two
teachers
dead.
A
So
I
actually
remember
a
time
when
I
would
say
I
can't
even
imagine
this
happening
as
we
also
approached
the
seven
year
anniversary
on
june
17th
of
the
attack
on
mother
emanuel
church
in
south
carolina
and
watching
the
photos
come
through.
The
news
actually
had
to
turn
the
news
off
for
a
little
while
of
those
murdered
in
buffalo.
A
I
thought
it
would
be
inappropriate
to
just
move
into
the
business
of
this
meeting
without
acknowledging
the
collective
grief
that
this
violence
has
thrown
our
country
into
again
and
then
just
to
remind
us
all
that
we're
not
hopeless
keep
doing
this
work.
This
very
important
work
moving
towards
community
safety,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
else
wants
to
add
anything
to
that,
but
I
just
thought
it
was
appropriate
to
do
that
before
I
call
off
the
road.
C
A
D
Hi,
it's
tiffany.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
gun.
Violence,
that's
happening
in
our
community
and
that
continues
to
happen.
A
All
right
well
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
I'll
call
the
roll
jasmine
b
ferrara.
A
Yep,
sam
sneed.
A
C
J
A
We
have
a
quorum.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
action,
but
we
have
a
corn
other
than
the
consent
agenda.
So
we'll
move
into
that
now.
You
should
have
received
our
arjuna
agenda
for
today
and
hopefully,
you've
had
the
opportunity
to
review
it
and
then
our
april
minutes
anybody
have
any
questions
or
recommended
edits
to
the
april
minutes.
A
All
right
cnn:
would
anyone
like
to
make
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
A
All
right
consent
agenda
passes
and
then
we'll
move
into
our
justice
systems.
Data
update
and
dr
lee
creighton
is
going
to
provide
that
for
us
today.
L
Thanks
dk
good
afternoon,
everyone
I
am
going
to
share
my
screen,
so
bear
with
me
for
one
minute:
pull
that.
G
L
So
hopefully,
you
all
see
a
slide
that
says
jail.
Population
update
great
so
as
dk
mentioned,
I'm
here
to
provide
a
brief
update
on
the
jail
population.
L
Some
of
you
may
be
aware
of
the
the
numbers
for
the
jail
have
been
have
experienced
a
jump
recently
and
so
we're
going
to
walk
through
kind
of
where
we've
been
what
we've
seen
and
where
we
are
currently
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
folks
may
have
so
just
to
get
us
started.
I'm
gonna
show
a
big
picture.
Look
at
the
jail
population
over
the
last
several
years,
so
this
is
daily.
Population
counts
for
the
local
jail
population
and
when
I
say
local
jail
population.
L
What
I
mean
is
people
who
are
in
custody
because
they
have
some
type
of
pending
charge
in
the
buncombe
county,
local
justice
system.
They
are
sentenced
to
serve
their
time
in
the
local
jail
or
their
waiting
transport.
L
We
saw
another
uptick
began
at
the
end
of
the
summer
of
2021,
and
we've
really
seen
that
population
continue
to
increase
since
that
time
period
at
the
end
of
the
lines
on
the
far
right.
What
you'll
see
is
a
a
more
recent
uptick
in
the
last
one
to
two
months
that
we've
seen
for
the
local
jail
population,
so
just
situating
ourselves,
big
picture.
This
is
where
we've
been,
and
this
is
where
we
are.
L
I
thought
it
might
be
helpful
to
take
a
look
at
this
from
the
standpoint
of
a
year-over-year
comparison
for
the
same
time
period
so
taking
the
most
recent
month
that
we've
completed
the
month
of
may
so.
Looking
at
the
five
previous
mays,
where
have
we
been
in
terms
of
average
daily
population?
You
can
see
that
may
2022
is
the
highest
average
daily
population
that
that
has
been
experienced
in
the
jail
over
the
previous
five
years
again
for
the
month
of
may.
L
One
of
the
changes
that
we
saw
happen
in
the
beginning
stages
of
the
pandemic
was
that
the
rates
of
disparity
racial
disparity
began
to
increase
and
though
our
population
numbers
are
returning
to
pre-pandemic
levels,
that
rate
of
disparity
has
actually
increased
slightly.
So
we're
we're
still
in
that
place
where
a
higher
percentage
of
the
population
in
in
custody
is
black
and
it
has
remained
at
a
higher
level
than
we've
seen
pre-pandemic.
L
The
third
column
in
this
table
is
incarceration
rates
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
sort
of
how
many
people
are
experiencing
incarceration
in
the
community.
So
this
is
a
per
100
000
number
for
may
2022.
That
was
210
per
100,
000
adults
in
buncombe
county
were
represented
in
that
average
daily
population
and
then,
finally,
that
last
column
is
your
12-month
recidivism
rate,
and
we
actually
are
showing
three
recidivism
rates.
The
first
is
for
a
new
charge.
L
The
number
in
the
parentheses
is
for
a
new
violent
charge,
as
defined
by
the
public
safety
assessment
that
buncombe
county
pre-trial
services
utilizes
and
then
for
a
failure
to
appear
only
so
that
is
the
only
reason
that
the
person
came
back
into
custody
is
because
they
had
an
order
for
arrest
for
failure
to
appear
what
you
see
over
time
is
those
new
charge.
Recidivism
rates
for
the
12-month
period
really
have
remained
relatively
stable,
despite
some
pretty
significant
changes
and
fluctuations
in
the
jail
population.
L
That,
obviously,
is
a
reflection
of
the
operations
of
court
during
the
height
of
a
pandemic,
but
what
we
are
seeing
when
you
look
at
the
may
2020
one
recidivism
rates
that
that
fta
recidivism
rate
is
returning
to
what
we
have
seen
in
previous
pre-pm
pre-pandemic
times.
L
L
So
this
is
a
year-over-year
look
for
the
month
of
months
of
january
and
may
for
the
last
five
years
the
the
chart
on
the
left
is
bookings
by
process
type,
and
so
that
top
line
that
top
blue
line
represents
bookings
coming
into
the
facility
with
new
charges,
new
criminal
charges
you
can
see.
That
is
a
line
that
continues
to
be
on
a
downward
trend.
L
L
If
we
take
a
closer
look
at
bookings
with
new
charges
on
your
right,
you
can
see
that
the
top
that
is
bookings
with
new
misdemeanor
charges-
and
that
is
the
those
misdemeanor
bookings
with
no
similar
charges-
are
really
what's
driven,
that
overall
booking
booking
number
with
new
charges
down
the
felony
bookings
with
felony
charges
has
remained
relatively
stable,
though
we
are
slightly
lower
this
year
for
the
same
time
last
year.
So
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
pans
out
over
the
course
of
the
year.
L
It's
a
it's
an
overall
upward
trend
and
the
the
anomaly
being
the
pandemic
impacts
for
so
2020
is
when
we
saw
that
so
this
is.
This
is
reflecting
a
lot
of
the
effort
of
our
justice
system
partners
to
release
as
many
people
as
possible
as
quickly
as
possible
as
safely
as
possible.
So
that's
where
that
dip
comes
in,
but
we
now
have
returned
to
average
lengths
of
stays
that
are
higher
than
we've
seen
pre-pandemic.
L
One
of
the
things
that
I
will
note
is
when
we
think
back
to
what's
driving
the
bookings,
it's
those
bookings
with
orders
for
arrest.
When
we
look
at
bookings
for
average
length
of
stay
with
bookings
with
failure
to
appears
they
on
average,
stay
in
custody
seven
days
longer
than
bookings
without
order
for
arrest
for
a
failure
to
appear.
So
that's
a
that's
a
population,
that's
kind
of
impacting
the
jail
jail
number
is
quite
significantly
right.
Now,.
J
Lee
can
you
say
that
again
the
bookings
as
a
result
of
fail
to
appear
outpace
bookings
yeah,
I
mean
so.
L
L
Failure
to
appear
as
one
probation
pre-trial
violations
are
examples
of
others,
but
when
we
look
at
those
failure
to
appear
book
bookings,
so
these
are
bookings
that
have
an
order
for
arrest
for
failure
to
appear.
They
on
average
stay
seven
days
longer
than
bookings
without
a
failure
to
appear.
J
Yes,
it
does
and
is,
is
the
is
any
backup
data
anywhere
that
would
name
the
income
level
of
those
that
failed
to
appears.
L
No,
that's
that's
going
to
be
data
that
I'm
not
aware
of
how
we
could
access.
We
could
maybe
look
at
the
most
recent
bond
amounts
on
those
bookings,
but
that
would
not
be
necessarily
an
indication
of
income
level
specifically,
but
it
could
be
a
could
be
a
proxy
to
look
at
how
you
know
what
was
the
amount
of
that
bond.
L
C
C
M
Also
add
the
community
engagement
team
has
been
working
with
the
public
defenders
office
and
we've
got
approval
to
do
surveys
and
contact
folks
who
have
had
an
ft
in
the
past
to
see
what
impacts
or
what
led
to
failing
to
appear
just
to
get
more
information
from
those
that
are
most
impacted
perspective.
L
So
I
think,
I'm
probably
pretty
close
to
time,
if
not
ever
so,
I
apologize,
but
just
to
sum
up
and
if
there's
any
other
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer,
but
the
you
know
just
to
revisit
last
month
the
jail
housed
more
people
per
100
000
than
it
had
for
the
month
of
may
over
the
previous
four
years,
the
rate
of
racial
disparity
in
the
jail
has
remained
higher
than
pre-pandemic
levels,
despite
population
numbers
returning
to
pre-pandemic
levels,
we've
not
seen
significant
shifts
at
all
in
our
recidivism
rates
for
new
charges
and
it's
been
stable
over
the
last
five
years,
despite
population
numbers.
L
L
So
that's
what
I
have
prepared
for
today.
If
folks
have
questions
or
jay.
Thank
you
for
that
question
and
we'll
certainly
follow
up
and
see
see
if
we
can
get
to
some
answers
there
with
fda's.
A
N
I
had
a
question,
I'm
curiously,
with
the
failure
to
appears
and
being
low
in
the
pandemic.
Is
it
safe
to
say
because
a
lot
more
court
hearings
were
being
held
virtual
and
so
theoretically,
people
could
have
could
appear
because
they
weren't
having
transportation
barriers,
time
barriers.
That
type
of
thing.
O
So,
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
we
were
in
mostly
jail
cases
and.
O
M
Yeah,
what
meredith
basically
said
is:
there's
a
jail
review
team
to
look
into
using
custody
to
present
these
to
the
da's
office,
about
the
defender's
office
and
presented
to
the
courts
about
seeing
who
can
be
released
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic.
Ftas
or
ofas
orders
for
failure
to
appears
were
not
being
issued
and
now
that
we're
kind
of
back
in
endemic
that
they're
ordering
ofas
and
police
are
when
they're
engaging
with
folks
they're
able
to
serve
the
warrants
and
they're
getting
picked
up
for
ftas.
J
I
wonder-
and
I
I
know
that-
there's
no
quick
short
answer
for
this,
but
if
when
people
were
released
during
the
pandemic
for
safety
reasons,
certainly
the
justice
services
professionals
released
them
with
an
eye
towards
safety
and
the
community
either
did
or
did
not
experience
greater
crime
during
that
time
period.
J
If
the
community
did
not
experience
more
crime,
meaning
that
our
streets
were
less
safe,
then
why
could
they
not
observe
the
same
rubric
that
they
use
to
release
people
or
look
at
similar
strategies
on
how
to
determine
who
stays
and
how
long?
J
It
is
seen
that
we
did
something
during
the
pandemic
and
we
did
it
with
the
eye
towards
safety,
and
now
things
are
going
back
to
pre-pandemic,
but
during
the
pandemic
the
streets
were
not
less
safe,
I'm
not
talking
about
in
terms
of
health
and
the
pandemic,
I'm
talking
about
in
terms
of
robbery
and
crime,
etc.
J
So
I
just
want
to
to
make
that
note
that
maybe
there
are
some
things
that
we
did
during
the
pandemic,
that
we
can
still
do.
O
Ultimately,
it's
up
to
the
judge
whether
or
not
the
bond
is
changed
and
unsecured.
M
The
one
issue
we
saw
with
failure
to
appears
the
court
dates
kept
getting
pushed
back,
and
just
like
many
of
us,
like
you,
forget
that
you
even
a
had
this
charge
or
that
you
don't
know
when
your
court
date
is,
or
just
the
apathy
to
the
pandemic
and
not
being
able
to
come
back
to
court
for
those
and
that's
what
it
seems
like
our
driver
is,
is
the
failure
to
appears
that
are
driving
our
jail
population.
A
All
right
any
other
questions
about
that
information,
as
we
mentioned
before,
we'll
try
to
bring
to
each
meeting
data,
not
just
jail
population,
but
other
things
that
this
body
needs
to
look
at,
consider,
consider
and
monitor
with
regards
to
our
activity
as
a
system.
So
if
nothing
else
really
quickly,
I'd
like
to
re-introduce
julie
julie
is
the
newest
member
of
our
j-rack
and
she's
appointed
by
the
board
of
commissioners.
A
As
a
community
member,
we
had
a
really
good
onboarding
conversation
this
week,
and
so
I
know
that
julie
is
really
excited
to
join
this
council
julie.
Would
you
like
to
share
anything.
P
A
Thank
you
and
I
think
julie
is
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
some
of
the
partners.
She
just
wants
to
learn
more
about
your
offices
as
well,
so
she
can
have
as
much
base
knowledge
to
be
able
to
engage
in
these
conversations.
A
All
right,
so
I'm
gonna
mute
again
and
turn
it
over
to
victoria
reichert
and
kathleen
blackney
victoria
is
relatively
new.
I
think
I
might
have
shared
that
she
can't
say
she's
new
anymore,
because
we've
hired
a
few
more
people
since
she
started,
but
she's
our
behavior
health
manager
and
kathleen
is
with
our
strategy
and
innovations,
department
and
she's,
our
behavioral
health
and
justice
analyst.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
them.
They're
gonna
provide
an
update
on
the
efforts
around
the
opioid
settlement
funds.
There
you
go
kathleen
and
victoria.
N
N
What
are
you
wondering
about
what
if
we
maybe
missed-
and
I
also
want
to
open
that
opportunity
if
anyone
does
want
to
reach
out
to
kathleen
or
I
and
she'll
add
our
email
addresses
to
feel
free
to
reach
out
we'd
be
happy
to
meet
with
you
talk
about.
We
are
in
that
continued
planning
process.
N
How
do
we,
you
know,
plan
for
the
settlement
funds
moving
forward,
so
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
get
your
input
to
help
shape,
maybe
that
process
so,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
us
and
I'm
sharing
on
our
the
opioid
settlement
planning
and
some
of
our
progress
that
we're
making
so
far,
as
many
of
you
may
be
aware,
may
not
again
happy
to
talk
more
about
some
background,
but
there
was
the
national
settlement
with
three
manufacturers
and
distributors,
where
the
nation
got
a
pocket
of
money
and
then
north
carolina
was
allotted
an
amount
and
with
that
amount
they
were
dividing
up
amounts
to
each
county
and
municipality.
N
E
N
Good
influx
and
I
wanted
to
show
a
little
visual
we're
getting
a
good
influx
the
beginning
of
this
year
or
this
fiscal
year
and
then
getting
a
little
bit
over
one
million
for
the
next
three
years,
but
after
these
first
four
years,
we're
going
to
be
under
a
million
each
year.
N
So
it's
going
to
be
interesting
to
how
do
we
plan
some
of
this
money
kind
of
that
investment
in
the
beginning,
but
not
maybe
kind
of
one-time
investment
versus
ongoing
and
again
that
will
be
our
process
of
planning
over
the
years
and
how
we
want
to
use
it
being
able
to
also
shift
and
pivot.
N
What's
the
need
today,
versus
tomorrow
and
part
of
that
agreement
with
the
state
to
get
money
is
to
follow
a
memorandum
of
agreement
and
this
memorandum
of
agreement
outlines
different
strategies,
ways
that
we
can
use
this
money
and
also
reporting
processes
to
the
state.
So
we
can
be
very
transparent
about
how
this
money
is
used
and
to
just
give
a
high
level
overview
of
what
these
different
strategies
are.
We've
got
collaborative
and
strategic
planning,
so
it's
kind
of
that
process
that
we're
doing
now
getting
different
stakeholders,
people
in
the
community
getting
input.
N
Looking
at
data,
you
know
creating
visions.
All
of
those
types
of
things
the
money
could
be
used
for
evidence-based
addiction,
treatment,
which
is
consistent
with
the
american
society
of
addiction,
medicine,
which
does
include
medication,
assisted
treatment,
frequently
called
mat,
and
then
we
have
recovery
support
services.
N
Naloxone
distribution,
which
is
to
help
people
who
have
experienced
an
overdose
to
reverse
that
overdose,
allowing
that
to
be
distributed
wide
and
far
with
different
programs
and
groups,
post-overdose
response
teams
which
work
with
emergency
services
and
provide
community
paramedics,
but
also
peer
support
and
clinicians,
to
help
support
someone
who
has
overdosed
but
or
had
a
non-fatal
drug
overdose
to
be
able
to
access
services.
So,
following
up
even
days
after
linking
them
to
resources
providing
what
they
need
to
get
on
that
road
of
recovery.
N
Syringe
service
programs
provides
harm
reduction
so
syringes
naloxone
and
other
harm,
reducing
supplies
as
well
as
disposal
of
syringes
and
the
most
important
part
of
connecting
clients
to
prevention,
treatment
and
other
supports
for
their
health
and
well-being
and
then
criminal
justice
diversion
program.
So
pre-arrest
post-arrest
diversion
pre-trial
programs,
things
that
connect
people
to
the
treatment
that
they
need
those
services
and
supports
for
their
well-being
and
then
addiction,
treatment
for
incarcerated
persons,
which
supports
evidence-based
addiction,
treatment,
including
medication,
assisted
treatment
and
then,
lastly,
re-entry
programs.
N
So
helping
connect
incarcerated
persons
to
treatment,
recovery,
support
or
other
services
or
supports
that
they
need
upon
release
from
jail
so
that
can
be
supporting
any
of
the
programs
or
getting
them
linked
to
those
supports.
N
At
that
same
time,
we're
going
to
be
using
our
behavioral
health,
justice
collaborative
and
implementing
a
strategic
planning
which
will
help
us
further
engage
our
community.
What's
that
process
look
like
how
are
we
getting
their
feedback,
but
also
creating
that
vision
and
that
process
of
how
we
decide
to
use
money?
N
So
you
may
notice
that
there's
been
a
short
time
frame
of
getting
some
initial
feedback
on
how
to
use,
but
we're
building
out
a
longer
kind
of
process
on
how
do
we
do
this
year
after
year
and
really
planning
in
the
long
run
and
all
of
that
process
kind
of
includes
data
collection,
evaluating
right,
what's
working,
what's
not
working,
but
also
in
collaborating
with
the
public
and
state
level
partners
and
even
regional
partners.
N
And
so
one
way
that
we
had
got
received
some
of
our
community
feedback
was
a
public
input
page
and
kathleen's.
Going
to
add
these
two
links
for
those
that
are
not
familiar.
Buncombe
county
has
a
public
input
page.
Where
folks
can
add,
information
respond
to
surveys,
and
so
we
have
a
page
right
now.
That's
on
the
bc,
opioid
funds
link-
and
this
is
where
we're
kind
of
keeping
some
information
resources
minutes
from
the
behavioral
health
justice
collaborative.
N
We
will
eventually
move
it
to
a
home
page
for
on
the
buncombe
county
government
web
page,
but
this
is
kind
of
to
get
things
going.
We
have
completed
a
survey
which
I'm
going
to
look
at
next,
but
we
do
have
a
place
for
comments.
So
if
someone
lands
on
that
page
and
they
weren't
able
to
participate
in
that
initial
survey,
they
still
have
a
place
to
add
more
comments,
feedback,
and
we
can
always
follow
up
with
those
that
might
request
to
get
follow-up.
N
And
then
this
next
website
is
a
statewide.
Dashboard
includes
a
lot
of
information
about
the
strategies,
metrics
and
data
and
where
we
will
be
reporting
updates
to
the
state
and
so
getting
into
what
some
of
that
feedback
we
got.
We
asked
this
first
question:
what
are
the
most
important
ways
for
buncombe
county
to
invest
the
opioid
settlement
dollars
and
this
pie
graph
demonstrates
those
items
that
were
selected
as
priorities
so
kind
of
their
top.
Just
18
said
that
expanding
access
to
emergency
behavioral
treatment
beds
was
a
top
option.
N
N
However,
another
way
to
look
at
the
same
data
was
to
look
at
this
ranking
average
ranking.
So
we
have,
if
someone
put
selected,
expanding
access
to
behavioral
treatment
beds
as
the
number
one
option
and
then
another
person
selected
it
as
number
three.
It
was
given
an
average
of
level
two
and
the
ranking.
N
So
again
we
can
see
emergency
behavioral
treatment.
Beds
is
one
of
those
top
options
and
then
pretty
equally
on
recovery,
housing
support
service
entry,
re-entry
support
services,
medication,
assisted
treatment
and
also
looking
at.
How
can
we
streamline
and
coordinate
services
better
within
our
community
and
within
the
county.
N
We
focused
more
on
the
opioid
settlement
and
getting
feedback
about
what
are
some
of
those
barriers
problem
areas,
and
these
were
some
of
our
outputs
that
were
developed
as
well
as
some
of
our
conversations
as
you
can
see
again
that
greater
collaboration,
accessible
housing,
which
we
know
affects
everyone,
whether
you're
in
the
justice
or
have
substance,
use
issues,
I'm
looking
at
re-entry
services
and
again
data
sharing.
How
do
we
know
what
we're
doing
and
impacting?
How
is
one
program
affecting
another
or
how
is
that
data
informing?
N
How
one
program
might
focus
on
their
support
within
the
community,
as
well
as
increasing
peer
support
and
also
reducing
criminal
detention
stemming
from
mental
health
and
substance,
use
related
behaviors,
making
sure
that
people
are
getting
that
treatment
that
they
need,
while
still
holding
accountability
so
based
on
that
public
input
page
and
some
of
our
previous
behavioral
health
justice
collaborative
meetings?
These
were
some
of
the
topics
that
were
identified
as
areas
of
initial
focus.
So
we
want
to
sustain
some
of
our
existing
programs.
N
N
How
do
we
decide
if
this
program
works
and
what
we're
going
to
fund
later
on,
as
well
as
increasing
that
opportunity
for
people
to
get
into
residential
treatment
or
ongoing
treatment
meeting
their
needs,
and
some
employment
related
services,
because
once
you're
out
in
the
community
right,
you've
got
to
end
up
making
being
able
to
make
money
to
be
able
to
sustain
and
live
and
making
sure
people
are
set
up
to
be
able
to
do
that.
N
G
Hey
victoria,
this
is
donald
and
one
great
seeing
you
in
the
new
position
now
you're
gonna
do
an
awesome
job.
So
congratulations
on
that.
Just
one
thing
I
would
just
say
is:
there's
new
funding
coming
down
from
the
state.
Specifically,
you
know
soar
three
funding.
Those
dollars
are
being
targeted
in
similar
areas
that
you've
identified
here,
and
so
you
know
again
just
continue
to
advocate
for
some
cross-organizational
conversation.
I
know
we're
probably
going
to
be
seeing
maybe
upwards
of
a
million
dollars
for
recovery
housing.
G
You
know
in
the
region
and
the
more
we
can
make
sure
we're
not
overlapping
on
some
of
our
project
stuff,
the
more
we
can
get
done.
So
just
let
us
know
if
there's
a
way
we
can
compare
our
notes,
because
some
of
that
stuff's
happening
quickly
with
the
state
and
changes
quite
frequently.
So
just
let
us
know
as
you're,
making
your
decisions
and
your
recommendations
for
the
county.
G
O
You
doubt
victoria,
I
wanted
to
mention
this:
the
treatment
courts
that
we
have
going
on
now
and
whether
money.
F
N
And
I
heard
most
of
that,
but
expanding
like
that
treatment
court
getting
people
through
and
it
was
nice
being
able
to
sit
in
on
a
sobriety
treatment
court
and
really
seeing
what
that
that
work.
That
does
and
holding
people
accountable,
but
also
making
sure
as
we're
talking
about
that
they're.
Getting
that
treatment
that
they
need
and.
A
K
K
So
you
can
go
to
data
dashboards
and
select
nc
opioid
indicators
there
and
select
from
buncombe
county
and
really
look
at
what
is
happening
on
the
ground
in
terms
of
the
impact
of
this
issue
in
our
community
as
well
as
dig
into
as
victoria
mentioned,
just
a
breath
of
information
about
how
this
settlement
came
to
be
and
as
well
as
some
of
both
the
options
available
to
us
for
using
these
dollars,
but
also
some
of
the
constraints.
But
in
particular,
if
anybody's
curious.
But
new
to
the
idea.
K
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
victoria.
This
is
jake.
This
was
this.
This
presentation
was
awesome
and
just
to
know
that
this
is
happening
is
so
reassuring
when
you
looked
at
when
on
the
screen
that
showed
the
12
12
areas,
and
then
you
describe
some
of
the
supports
that
will
go
for
various
programs.
J
I
think
across
the
board.
Lots
of
the
direct
service
providers,
especially
the
ones
that
are
smaller,
have
have
voiced
both
in
community
engagement
platforms
and
in
community
networks.
The
need
for
administrative
support,
they've
talked
about
it
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and-
and
the
thing
is
that
when,
when,
when,
when
direct
program,
funds
go
to
support
direct
programs
but
don't
fund
the
administration
of
or
the
infrastructure
for
programs,
then
the
whole
program
suffers.
Oftentimes
funding
is
limited
to
direct
services.
J
I
wonder
in
in
just
your
understanding
your
discussion
of
this.
Would
there
be
significant
or
or
considerable?
Is
it
just
up
for
discussion,
the
amount
of
infrastructure
funding,
capacity,
building
funding
for
people
that
have
lived
experience
but
may
not
have
had
as
much
technical
experience
for
the
back
office
operations.
N
Yeah,
you
know
that's
a
really
good
question
and
I
think
that's
something
that
kathleen
and
I
have
been
hearing
and
trying
to
dive
in
about
what
that
might
look
like
and
supporting
and
what's
freed
about,
the
moa
is
specific,
and
yet
it's
somewhat
broad.
So
when
we're
talking
about
recovery,
support
services,
it
really
just
states
fund
programs
offering
recovery,
housing
support
to
people
in
treatment
or
recovery.
N
N
It's
supporting
that
service
and
expanding,
maybe
that
opportunity,
because
I
think,
as
you're
saying
it's
people
who
are
you
know,
grassroots
in
the
weeds,
really
working
and
frequently
the
people
that
are
leading
the
organization
is
also
doing
the
work
and
that
can
be
really
hard
to
sustain.
And
how
do
you
have
someone
who
sits
back
to
crunch
the
numbers
report,
the
numbers
while
also
responding
to
the
needs
of
the
community?
So
I
think
that's
just
an
important
reminder
that
while
we
look
at
what
are
those
programs
that
we're
building
in
that
administrative
support?
N
H
I
have
an
additional
question
right
that
I
thought
of
while
jay
was
talking
and
forgive
my
ignorance
on
this
topic.
It's
not
my
area
of
expertise,
certainly
see
a
lot
of
overlap
in
the
domestic
violence
realm
yeah,
I'm
curious.
I
saw
a
little
bit
about
prevention,
but
obviously
a
lot
of
these
programs
focus
on
on
recovery
and
and
that's
understandable,
I'm
curious
what
prevention
might
look
like
and
if
you
could
speak
to
that,
just
a
little
bit.
N
Yeah
and
one
it's
interesting
there's
you
know
the
word
prevention
and
then
there's
also
early
intervention,
and
I
think,
with
the
moa
for
option
a
it
really
doesn't
speak
a
lot
about
prevention.
One
of
my
thoughts,
though,
is
to
help
prevent
future
potential.
Users
is
to
make
sure
our
young
people
are
supported
by
their
family,
their
community,
and
so
some
of
that
is
helping
our
parents
right
get
into
recovery,
so
they
can
reduce
that
impact
on
our
children.
So
I
feel
like
that's
going
to
be
kind
of
work
happening,
but
what
is
that
prevention?
N
So
what
I'm
excited
about
is
because
buncombe
county
has
really
already
invested
in
a
lot
of
these
programs
through
the
behavioral
health
justice
collaborative
and
are
you
know
doing
a
really
collaborative
strategic
planning?
We
it'll
open
us
up
to
look
at
additional
strategies
that
are
not
listed
right
here.
This
is
kind
of
a
hey
cities
and
counties.
You
can
do
this
really
quickly
and
just
do
one
strategic
planning
process
and
that's
it,
and
so
that's
going
to
open
us
up.
N
If
anyone
looks
at
the
moa
again,
that
can
be
found
on
that
nc
opioid
settlement,
dot,
org
website
talk
about
option,
b
and
and
based
on
what
our
community
is
saying.
I
think
buncombe
county
is
getting
set
up
to
say
we're
going
to
need
a
look
at
option
b,
where
we're
really
cultivating
what's
specific
in
our
community,
because
when
we
talk
about
prevention,
what
are
the
needs
of
our
community?
That
is
leading
someone
to
misuse
to
then
become
addicted
to
this
substance
and
and
be
able
to
get
really
creative?
N
So
there's
I
think
prevention
is,
is
another
type
of
early
intervention.
You
know
is
looking
at
helping
people
and
I
think
for
our
young
people
and
children
and
families
is
kind
of
my
expertise
where
my
background
is,
is
helping
children
feel
connected
and
again.
This
is
also
with
adults
and
we
providing
opportunities
for
connection.
N
Are
we
looking
at
making
sure
if
young
people
are
getting
that
support
when
they're
starting
to
feel
stressed?
We
know
with
the
pandemic.
Our
young
people
have
been
really
struggling,
there's
been
that
increase
in
suicidal
ideations
and
attempts,
and
a
lot
of
that's
related
to
not
feeling
connected
feeling
stressed
not
knowing
what
to
how
to
handle
that,
and
so
some
of
that
early
intervention
will
be
looking
at
supporting
our
young
people
to
recognize
how
to
deal
with
stress
and
support,
helping
our
teachers.
N
I
mean
that's
gonna,
be
a
big
piece
in
our
parents,
and
how
do
you
deal
with
your
stress
that
you
can
be
there
for
your
young
people
so
that
they
are
able
to
feel
better
about
themselves
and
engage
in
more
pro-social
activities?
N
There's
been
a
recent
conversation
with
our
trinity
house
closing
recently,
which
is
for
young
young
people,
runaways
homeless,
or
those
that
just
needed
respite
from
their
families
and
looking
at
what
are
other
ways
that
we
can
provide
outlets
for
young
people
that
they
can
get
engaged
in
positive
activities.
I'm
excited
about
what
healthy
transitions
is
doing
and
even
providing
scholarships
for
music.
Lessons
right
seems
so
small,
but
for
our
young
people,
when
they
get
excited
about
something
you
know.
I
remember
hearing
a
young
person
who
was
using
substances
that
likes
making
music.
N
How
can
we
cultivate
that
interest
so
that
young
person
is
going
to
be
so
busy
doing
their
passion,
their
art
that
they're
not
using
substances?
So
I
think
that's
going
to
be
again
something
that
we
want
to
wrap
into
some
of
this
work
now,
but
also
in
that
really
long
term,
that
I
hope
we
can
really
invest
more
in
that
prevention
and
early
intervention,
because
hopefully
we're
seeing
that
reduction
with
some
of
the
supports
that
we're
giving
to
those
that
are
currently
using
and
working
their
recovery
that
we're
working
on
preventing
more.
N
A
And
julia,
if
you
have
so
any
other
ideas
on
how
we
can
you
know,
create
strategies
or
options
from
a
prevention
standpoint.
Please
please
share
it's
interesting.
You
asked
that
question
victoria
and
I
just
talked
about
this
at
our
last
one-on-one-
how
we
can
make
sure
that
the
prevention
side
of
it
is
included
in
in
the
plan
that
we
bring
forward
to
the
board
of
commission.
So
thank.
H
You
yeah,
it
gives
me
a
lot
to
think
about
prevention,
certainly
hard
in
a
lot
of
these
areas.
It's
a
it's
a
tough,
it's
a
tough
ask,
and
so
but
an
important
one.
Yeah
and.
N
I
think,
as
you
mentioned
dv
as
how
can
we
end
up
you
know,
when
we
have
someone
presenting
experience
in
domestic
violence,
we
know
it
affects
the
children
frequently
there's
substance
use
involved.
So
you
know
when
we're
treating
with
the
adult.
What
can
we
be
doing
at
the
same
time
for
the
young
people
so
julia
and
please
reach
out
would
love
to
have,
even
if
it's
a
sit-down
brainstorming?
N
I
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
have
been
any
when
you've
looked
at
this
about
getting
to
some
of
the
outlining
areas
some
of
the
rural
areas
within
the
county.
I
know
that
since
most
stuff
is
centered
in
the
asheville
or
asheville
area
and
you've
got
some
areas
that
don't
even
have
a
bus
line
or
any
way
to
even
get
to
town.
I
If
any
of
this
has
been
looked
at
or
even
tied
into
some
of
the
mental
health
issues,
I
mean
we
see
a
lot
of
people
on
probation
that
have
a
lot
of
mental
health
issues,
and
then
they
use
substances
to
try
to
address
their
mental
health,
which
is
a
double-edged
sword.
One
leads
to
the
other,
so
I
was
just
as
extra
too
part
question.
If
you
have
any
insight
on
that
yet.
N
I
not
specifically,
but
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
as
a
reminder.
One
of
our
comments
from
the
this
public
input
page
was
looking
at.
How
are
we
addressing
the
rurals?
N
Are
there
buses-
and
I
am
excited
that
part
of
this
role
is
getting
connected
with
people-
is
looking
at
what
some
of
our
sqhcs,
such
as
appalachian
mountain,
getting
a
mobile
clinic
going
even
the
health
department
and
what
are
opportunities
to
use
some
of
these
strategies
that
different
providers
are
doing
and
how
do
we
partner
with
maybe
harm
reduction,
letting
people
know
what's
available
and
getting
out
into
the
community
to
to
meet
that?
N
So
I
think
that
is
very
important,
because
some
people
right
they're
coming
into
buncombe
county-
and
I
was
talking
with
someone-
and
we
were
talking
about
just
regional
efforts
right
if
madison
county
doesn't
have
services
and
support
people
are
going
to
come
to
buncombe
county
to
access
those
services.
So
again,
how
do
we
look
at
that
regional
level
that
does
maybe
touch
into
those
more
rural
areas
to
you
know
to
help?
N
How
can
we
collaborate
and
make
services
accessible,
so
people
can
be
in
their
home
community
and
perhaps
not
come
into
the
county
because
they
want
to
reach
get
services,
but
now
they
don't
have
anywhere
to
live
and
they
don't
have
a
way
to
get
back
to
their
home
community.
So
that's
a,
I
think,
another
area
of
how
do
we
tackle
that
and
what
are
those
resources
that
we
have
to
reach
those.
I
I
N
But
then,
like
would
marshall
be
closer
for
some
of
those
people
and
are
there?
You
know
again
that,
like
what
are
we
looking
at
the
the
the
capacity?
What's
even
just
the
region,
to
reach
some
of
those
further
out,
because
I
remember
yeah
being
out
one
way
was
like
well,
one
was
closer
to
go
through
marshall,
to
get
down
to
that
one
house
in
buncombe,
county.
K
About
the
intersection
of
mental
health
care
in
general
and
looking
at
the
opioid
epidemic
in
this
crisis,
the
moa
is
written
in
such
a
way
that
there
is
specific
language
encouraging
the
use
of
these
strategies
to
absolutely
address
folks
who
are
using
opioids,
provide
services
and
supports,
but
to
apply
these
services
at
the
intersection
and
the
co-occurring
nature
of
mental
health
conditions,
opioid
use,
but
substance
use
in
general
as
well.
K
So
there
is
a
lot
of
opportunity
in
the
way
this
settlement
has
been
written
and
it's
it's
in
no
way
sufficient
for
everything
you
just
addressed,
but
the
one
sort
of
how
are
we
getting
outside
of
asheville
city
proper
to
other
parts
of
buncombe
today
or
as
these
strategies
are
written?
That
I
can
say
is
that
post
overdose
response
team
is
a
mobile
program.
K
It's
folks
who
operate
with
our
community
paramedic
under
what
you
think
of
as
like
traditional
ems,
not
not
one
for
one,
but
you
know
they're
they're,
not
sitting
in
an
office
right
they're
in
a
truck
that
moves,
and
so
so
much
room
for
growth,
just
echoing
everything
victoria
said.
But
I
do
know:
that's
one
area
that,
as
we've
reached
out
to
those
stakeholder
groups
who
heard
victoria
speak
about
there's
a
lot
of
support
and
interest
in
expanding
the
role
of
that.
K
But
again,
none
of
that
is
to
contradict
the
need
for
broadening
and
broadening
and
making
sure
those
folks
don't
feel
unseen
in
this
work.
As
you.
I
A
A
Thank
you
all
right,
so
ed
and
meredith
will
give
us
an
update
on
the
driver's
license
restoration
program.
O
So
we
started
in
december
of
2020,
I
believe,
was
the
first
motion
in
order
that
I
presented
to
judge
hill.
I
did
a
mass
motion
and
orders,
for
I
believe
the
total
number
was
834
folks.
So
we
had
fines
and
fees
stricken
on
old,
minor
traffic
matters,
and
so
those
were
granted
and
then
the
clerk's
office
struck
those
and
that
got
sent
to
dmv
we're
also
having
a
number
of
people
are
filing.
O
O
O
O
J
O
O
The
ones
that
we're
seeing
are
done
after
the
case
is
over.
J
All
right,
thank
you.
We
we
recently
had
a
visit
from,
and
actually
the
community
engagement
team
was
really
instrumental.
I
actually
hosted
this,
but
we
had
a
visit
from
the
second
chance
alliance.
J
I
mean
they're
opening
a
chapter
here
and
some
of
the
some
of
the
information,
some
of
the
movement
that
they're
working
on
right
now
is
ability
to
pay
hearings
and
actually
asking
if,
if
people
can
do
those
before
finding
fees
are
attached,
so
this
this
looks
like
a
really
good
document
for
relief
from
that.
I'm
really
interested
to
see
what
buncombe
county
justice
services
could
or
would
do
on
the
front
end
to
prevent
the
finding
fees
from
happening
in
the
first
place
because
of
a
person's
lack
of
ability
to
pay.
R
This
is
ed
from
pisco
legal
services.
I
just
like
say
I
was
at
that
chapter
launch
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
there
were
some
great
conversations
had
on
that
subject,
and
it
was
great
too
a
great
coffee
shop.
It
was,
it
was
the
iced
coffee
was
not
bad
and
there
there
is
a
movement
statewide
and
nationwide
as
well
to
have
a
real
conversation
about
fines
and
fees.
R
I
think
people
are
starting
to
realize
that
there's
a
strong
racial
equity
component
to
this
there's
a
criminalization
of
poverty
here,
and
so
many
of
the
issues
that
you
were
talking
about
in
this
meeting.
They
depend
on
access,
reliable
transportation.
All
these
wonderful
services
that
we're
talking
about
making
available.
R
If
people
cannot
access
them,
it's
basically
meaningless
and,
as
I
think,
as
regina
ray
indicated,
you
know
you
might
get
by
in
asheville
on
public
transportation,
but
for
a
rural
area
that
is
not
an
option
and
again,
even
even
just
buncombe.
I
serve
personally
11
counties
west
north
carolina,
where
you
know
I
have
clients
in
a
place
like
mitchell
county
who
are
somehow
surviving.
R
You
know
with
a
moped
where
they
have
to
ride.
30
miles
to
get
groceries
because
they
haven't
had
a
driver's
license
in
20
years,
and
they
don't
know
why
I
could
go
on
and
on
about
this,
I'm
not
going
to
respect
everyone's
time.
I
will
just
say
that
we
have
some
real
opportunities
here
in
buncombe
with
with
the
da's
office
and
the
courts,
and
some
of
the
non-profits
that
are
working
on
this
issue.
R
R
There's
never
going
to
be
enough
free
lawyers
in
the
world
to
deal
with
everybody
in
north
carolina
who
has
been
driver's
licenses
by
some
estimates.
It's
one
in
seven
adults,
which
is
incredible
if
you
think
about
it.
It's
also
as
great
as
is
to
have
buncombe
county
on
board.
With
this,
I
don't
think
I've
ever
had
a
single
client
who
had
a
suspension
in
just
one
county
and
each
one
of
those
suspensions
has
to
be
dealt
with
county
by
county.
So
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
the
da's
office
that
we
have
here.
R
It's
almost
too
easy
to
resolve
buncombe
issues,
but
then
I
have
to
go
to
henderson
for
that
other
speeding
ticket.
Then
I
have
to
go
to
rutherford,
sometimes
that
you
know
that's
a
south
carolina
issue,
it's
a
florida
issue,
so
there
is
no
easy
answer
to
this,
but
I
think
just
raising
awareness
of
this
issue
and
getting
people
to
think
about
how
if
we
want
buncombe
county
to
be
a
more
equitable,
you
know
fair,
safer
place
for
everyone
to
live.
This
is
this
is
a
great
high-impact
way
to
start.
R
I
also
do
expunction
work
at
pisca
and
we're
getting
some
great
results
there.
The
legislature
has
really
expanded
the
relief
that's
available
there
for
folks
we're
getting
some
folks
real,
clean
slates,
but
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
are
just
still
not
going
to
be
eligible
for
various
reasons,
or
they
might
not
be
eligible
yet,
but
many
of
them
also
have
suspended
driver's
licenses,
and
that
is
something
that
we
can
make
an
impact
in
in
in
the
short
term.
R
So
it's
just
such
a
huge
knock-on
effect
that
it's
going
to
have
on
housing,
access
to
services,
nutrition,
education,
all
those
things,
and
we
now
have
a
small
fund
thanks
to
the
safety
justice
challenge,
where
we're
able
to
assist
residents
with
paying
old
fines
and
fees.
That's
the
best
way
to
deal
with
some
of
this,
but
that's
certainly
not
the
only
way
we
need
to
deal
with
it
and
there
are
things
happening
around
the
state
where,
where
different
jurisdictions
are
beginning
to
address
this,
you
know
long
overdue.
R
Again,
I
want
to
respect
everybody's
time.
I
will
put
my
email
address
in
the
chat.
If
anybody
wants
to
talk
about
this
issue
further,
I
certainly
can
do
so,
and
I
hope
that
it's
something
that
you're
interested
in
in
hearing
more
about
at
some
point
in
the
future.
Thank
you
for
having
me.
O
I
just
wanted
to
mention
one
more
thing:
people
we
get
people
calling
our
office
all
the
time
who
miss
court
with
the
fellowship
here,
we're
always
willing
to
ask
the
court
to
strike
those.
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
people
call
this
week
that
I
presented
at
the
court
to
strike
those
failures
to
appear,
get
them
a
new
court
date,
so
we
can
reduce
their
tickets
and
take
care
of
those
traffic
matters,
and
so
they
can
be
able
to
get
their
license
back.
R
I'll
just
say
one
more
thing
I
wish
I
tell
meredith
this
all
the
time.
I
wish
that
all
the
district
attorney's
offices
around
the
region
were
like
were
like
hers.
It
is
much
harder
to
get
these
issues
resolved
even
one
or
two
counties
over
and,
as
I
said,
it's
very
rare
to
get
a
client
who
has
just
issues
in
one
county
and
with
the
limited
resources
that
we
have.
You
know
my
ability
to
negotiate
all
those
different
systems.
R
It's
it's
limited
and
every
county,
their
clerk's
office
and
their
judge
in
their
da's
office.
They
all
do
it
differently.
So
there's
not
even
one
way
to
fix
these
problems
across
all
these
counties,
but
the
support
that
meredith
and
her
team
provide
is
is
absolutely
amazing
and
they're
spoiling
me
for
all
the
other
offices
that
I
deal
with.
So
thank
you
again.
Meredith.
S
I
I've
got
a
question
about
this.
Several
years
ago
I
worked,
I
was
in
a
bipartisan
group,
out
of
duke's
sanford
school
of
public
policy,
exploring
how
to
reduce
poverty
in
north
carolina,
and
one
of
the
things
I
looked
at
was
the
issue
around
driver's
license,
revocation
and
just
the
basic
access
to
jobs,
I
mean,
and
we
were,
I
think
they
told
us
at
that
time.
The
number
was
something
like
900
000
people
in
north
carolina
have
a
suspended
or
revoked
driver's
license.
S
It
was
like
some
astronomical
number
that
is
definitely
impacting
our
economy
too.
I
mean
in
terms
of
just
like,
if
you're
a
business
owner,
and
you
want
to
hire
somebody,
they
need
to
be
able
to
get
to
their
job,
and
so
there
was
an
you
know,
an
acknowledgement
that
this
is
a
huge
challenge
for
all
kinds
of
reasons,
but
is
there
any
state
or
way
anybody
who's?
Looked
at
a
comprehensive
approach
to
address
this
problem
I
mean:
is
there
like
state
legislation
we
should
be
requesting?
S
R
So
I
believe
there
was
legislation
pending
last
year
that
did
not
make
it
all
the
way
regarding
limiting
the
terms
of
suspensions,
as
it
is
now,
a
failure
to
pay
or
a
failure
to
appear
it's
an
indefinite
suspension.
It
could
be
the
first
time
the
only
time
it's
forever
until
you
resolve
it.
There
was
something
I
don't
know
how
quite
how
far
it
got
to
sort
of
make
that
a
fixed
term-
and
there
are
some
workarounds
for
that.
R
You
know,
besides
the
415
form
that
that
we've
talked
about
there
are
limited
driving
privileges
available
in
some
instances,
but
it's
so
rare
that
I
even
get
a
client
come
to
me.
Who's,
actually
able
to
tell
me
why
their
license
is
suspended
other
than
that
it
is
in
fact
suspended
and
the
ones
that
think
they
know
often
are
wrong
because
it
is
so
confusing.
It
is
very
hard
to
get
someone
on
the
phone
at
dmv.
R
I
believe
asheville
dmv
is
now
booking
appointments
for
july,
so
you
can
imagine
for
somebody
who's
really
in
a
crisis
and
really
needs
to
restore
that
license.
That's
that's
not
good
enough.
There
are
solutions
that
are
being
done:
sort
of
piece
meal
around
the
state
in
various
jurisdictions.
R
The
mass
forgiveness
has
happened
in
a
few
other
counties.
I
know
of
mecklenburg
wake
a
few
others.
Forsyth,
chapel
hill
has
an
amazing
program
where
residents
of
the
county
can
apply
to
the
county
for
relief
of
these
some
of
these
fees.
It's
just
a
line
item
in
the
town
budget
and
amazingly
enough.
It's
administered
by
the
chapel
hill
police
department
crisis
unit,
where
social
workers
and
uniformed
police
officers
work
on
this
and
help
people
get
their
license
back.
S
R
That's
like
what
meredith
was
describing
earlier,
with
with
the
d.a
doing
those
mass
motions
and
again-
and
that
is
that
is
tremendous
and
and
I
would
love
to
see
that
happen
in
the
rest
of
the
region.
It
is
a
tremendous-
and
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work
for
meredith
and
her
staff
as
well.
C
S
You
know
we
get
all
the
arrests
by
asheville
police
department
and
all
the
charges
for
individual.
We
don't
get
all
of
them,
I'm
sorry
we
get,
we
get
the
ones
where
they
there's
guns
seized
or
drugs,
these
or
whatever,
but
always
you
know
I
was
just
looking
at
today.
You
see
driving
with
the
license
revoked
on
there
and
it
just
seems
like
it
compounds
it
right.
So
somebody's
now.
C
S
R
And
I'm
sure,
I'm
sure
anybody
that
works
in
re-entry
can
speak
to
it
too,
when
you're
getting
people
on
that
end
of
it.
How
can
we
expect
people
to
succeed
without
reliable
transportation?
I
think
I
think
dmv
used
to
be
able
to
send
caseworkers
into
correctional
facilities
to
at
least
help
folks
renew
a
license,
not
not
restore
one
that
was
suspended,
that
had
to
stop
because
of
the
pandemic.
R
That's
understandable,
but
also,
I
think,
even
at
at
best
they
were
not
working
on
suspensions,
and
that
is
a
very
common
thing
that
we
see
with
returning
citizens
who
are
going
to
tell
you.
I've
never
had
a
driver's
license,
or
it's
been
20
years
to
me,
sending
that
guy
home
and
expecting
him
to
make
appointments
and
these
obligations.
That's
like
you're
graduating
someone
from
high
school
and
they
can't
read.
And
yes,
I
know
we
do
that.
R
Unfortunately,
but
there's
so
much
here
that
this
touches
on,
I
don't
have
a
formal
kind
of
referral
process
with
the
treatment
courts
in
buncombe,
but
they
find
me
anyway.
You
know,
I
know
I
know
kevin
from
the
veterans
treatments
court
and
it
feels
like
all
of
his
guys
have
suspended
driver's
licenses
and
they
they
find
me
piecemeal.
R
I
don't
even
do
any
outreach,
because
I
already
have
way
too
many
cases,
as
you
can
imagine,
but
the
demand
for
this
is
just
absolutely
astronomical
and
if
you're
talking
about
getting
somebody
back
on
their
feet,
it's
it's
a
really
high
impact
thing
that
you
can
do
and
prevent
them
from
having
further
contacts
with
law
enforcement,
because
the
sad
reality
is
that
many
people
they're
going
to
drive,
you
can
tell
them,
don't
you
can
send
them
to
jail
for
it
even
but
they're
going
to
tell
you
I
have
to
go
to
work.
M
I
was
going
to
ask
a
few
questions,
and
maybe
we
could
chair
invite
physical
eagle
back,
because
it
seems
like
a
very
important
issue
and
maybe
some
follow-up
questions
I
have
in
that
is
like
how
many
are
you
currently
serving?
How
many
are
like
on
your
list
or
to
be
served
that
you
can't
reach
what
are
some
ways
that
the
city
and
county
can
raise
awareness
about
the
services?
M
I
even
like
the
mass
relief.
How
do
we
communicate
with
those
who
had
the
relief
available
and
just
like
what
would
it
take
for
something
like
buncombe
county
to
do
like
a
clinic
such
as
chapel,
hill
or
durham?
Durham,
has
a
restorative
driver's
license
restoration
clinic
and
not
just
one
part-time
person
doing
it
part-time.
So
those
are
just
some
follow-up
questions
I
had,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
have
time
to
explore
those
right
now,
but
I
think
that
will
elevate
this
issue
a
little
bit
more.
R
Those
are
great
questions
and
I
probably
would
take
way
more
time
than
you
want
to
answer
all
them,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
come
back
and
put
together
some
numbers.
I
will
say
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
give
you
a
precise
number
on
the
number
of
clients
that
I'm
serving
specifically
for
this,
because
so
many
of
the
driver's
license
clients
start
as
expunction
clients,
and
they
don't
know
that
we
even
offer
the
driver's
license
registration
service,
but
in
running
their
criminal
histories
to
see
what
expungtion
relief
is
available.
I
notice.
R
Oh,
you
keep
getting
arrested
for
driving
with
a
suspended
driver's
license.
Can
I
help
you
with
that?
I
have
close
to
200
cases
in
general.
That's
probably
a
pretty
even
mix
of
expunction
and
driver's
license
restoration
and
a
lot
of
them
are
both
and
again
we
do
a
very
limited
amount
of
outreach
just
because
the
capacity
is
there.
I
I'm
I'm
covering,
like
I
said,
11
counties
and
there
are
some
counties
unfortunate.
R
I
know
this
is
bunga,
but
there
are
some
counties
where
I
think
I've,
maybe
gotten
one
or
two
clients
in
a
year
and
a
half-
and
I
know
that's
not
because
the
demand
isn't
there-
it's
because
they
don't
even
know
what
we're
doing
so.
I'm
happy
to
come
back
and
address
specifics
and
I
really
appreciate
the
support.
O
Tiffany,
I
did
just
want
to
let
you
know
the
folks
who
got
the
master
relief.
You
can
go
to
ncfairchance.org,
there's
a
a
button
to
check
for
restore
your
driver's
license,
and
then
you
can
put
your
name
in
and
date
of,
birth
and
it'll
pull
up
if
you've
gotten
relief
through
the
mass
motion
order.
T
If
I
could
make
a
comment
a
few
years
ago,
mayor
manheimer,
the
legislature
did
change
the
laws
regarding
driving
my
license
revoked
meredith.
You
may
be
able
to
help
me
out
a
little
bit
on
this,
but
they
divided
them
up
between
non-impaired,
revocations
and
impaired
revocations,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
help.
T
And
I
would
like
to
think
that
all
my
colleagues
in
the
public
defenders,
defender's
office
and
in
the
in
the
bar
here
not
only
are
representing
folks
when
they
get
when
they
get
a
charge
involving
a
non-impaired,
revocation
they're,
not
only
handling
the
non-impaired
revocation
but
they're
handling.
What's
making
the
non-impaired
revocation.
One
of
the
difficulties,
of
course
is
these
revocations
can
come
from
all
over
the
state,
as
ed
mentioned,
and
so
it's
very
hard
to
coordinate
activity
on
old
cases
and
other
counties
and
other
jurisdictions.
T
But
we
do
try
to
do
that
and,
of
course,
within
the
network
of
public
defenders
offices,
it's
a
little
bit
easier
to
do
because
we
have
emails.
You
know
we
have
colleagues
in
other
offices
that
we
can
simply
email,
and
you
know
they
can
probably
drag
something
in
and
handle
it
or
get
it
dismissed.
So
we
can
handle
something
else.
T
T
You
know
because
they're
looking
for
a
job
or
they
realize
that
they
have
an
opportunity
for
a
job
and
they
you
know
they'd
like
to
get
their
record
as
clean
as
possible
and
as
far
as
this
415
I've
done
two
myself
one
of
the
hitches
to
filling
out
an
aoc
cr415
is
that
it
requires
a
notary,
but
we
have
a
workflow
in
our
office
that
we
have
a
notary
in
our
office
and
we're
handling
all
comers
as
they
come
in
our
office.
So
this
is
something
we've
been
working
on
for
20
years.
T
It's
become
a
little
bit
easier.
Honestly,
we've
got
a
lot
of
buy-in
as
as
from
meredith
and
the
folks
in
the
da's
office.
We
have
a
great
deal
of
buy-in
from
them
and
that's
what
it
requires
right.
Everybody
has
to
have
buy-in
the
da's,
the
judges
and
the
defense
attorneys
and
the
clerks
everybody.
J
After
outside
of
what
justice
services
are
able
to
do-
and
I
actually
was
present
with
one
of
our
clients
with
jordan
peer
recovery
when
he
went
to
a
hearing
at
the
dmv,
after
all,
fines
and
fees
are
covered,
and
after
you
deal
with
the
criminal
justice
aspect
of
it,
then
they're
still.
C
J
It's
better
when
the
video,
oh
anyway,
the
dmv,
is
a
whole
nother.
No
another
aspect
of
this
that,
even
after
the
courts
are
taken
care
of
the
dmv,
seems
to
be
at
no
man's
land.
I
was
actually
in
a
hearing
with
one
of
our
one
of
our
clients
in
the
non-profit
and
he
was
suspended
for
10
years
and
had
one
known
infraction
in
those
10
years,
and
they
denied
him
after
everything
and
he
was
working
had
been
promoted.
J
I've
been
working
consistently
for
a
year
and
a
half
and
everything,
so
we
still
provide
transportation
for
him
because
he,
though
he
can
afford
to
drive
and
know,
he's
paid
everything
the
bmv
did
not
prove
so
anyway.
What
I'm
saying
is
I'd,
be
really
interested
for
adding
them
to
come
back
in
us
to
have
that
as
a
full
agenda
item.
So
we
can
understand
it
and
especially
to
see
some
of
those
gaps
because
it
could
be
some
stuff
outside
of
the
services.
A
Yeah
yeah.
Thank
you
a
very,
very
good
discussion.
This
is
not
something
that
you
know
is
is
isolated
to
north
carolina.
I
I
haven't
been
in
a
state
where
this
has
not
been
an
issue
and
the
laws
are
different.
Statutes
are
different.
There
are
different
ways
to
come
at
it,
but
we
should
probably
I
mean
not
even
just
in
a
j-rack
meeting,
have
some
a
work
group
or
something
get
together
outside
of
this
meeting,
to
talk
about
ways
that
we
can
all
collaborate
to
figure
out.
You
know
what's
the
best
solution
here.
A
The
other
piece
is
the
state
dmv
right,
and
so
I
don't
know
I'm
sure,
y'all
got
partners.
We
can
bring
into
the
conversation
as
well
good
conversation,
maybe
some
offline
conversations
before
we
bring
it
back
to
the
full
body
to
have
more
discussions
on
this.
This
has
been
a
great
great
meeting.
So
tiffany
you
got
two
seconds.
No,
you
got
a
couple
of
seconds
here.
I.
M
All
right
so
myself,
well
dk,
natalie,
pre-trial
release,
program
manager
and
myself
went
to
charleston.
It
was
the
first
time
the
national
network
of
criminal
justice
coordinating
council's
convene.
We
spent
much
of
the
time
in
charleston
looking
at
standards,
there's
about
50
kind
of
best
practices.
M
As
you
know,
these
coordinating
councils
aren't
in
most
communities
and
so
wanting
to
set
standards
for
what
it
looks
like
as
communities
continue
to
want
to
learn
how
to
collaborate
and
be
more
effective
together
and
not
work
in
silos.
So
what
we
are
doing,
we
are
great
at
the
foundational
work
and
have
done
a
lot
of
the
standards
that
they're
setting.
I
think
we
we
have
the
foundation
where
we
can
be
digging
in
a
little
bit
deeper.
M
One
thing
I
found
helpful
is
charleston
has
really
figured
out
how
to
integrate
their
community
engagement
efforts
so
that
the
the
community
engagement
group
and
the
jrack
are
working
simultaneously
together
as
far
as
announcements
and
updates,
and
if
we
have
any
more
information,
I
think
we
can
present
it
once
the
standards
get
finalized
I'll
be
presenting
on
the
work
they
came
before.
M
You
all
spark-
and
my
my
daddy
taught
me
that
in
the
racial
justice
coalition
on
the
work
they've
been
doing
in
gun,
violence
prevention,
so
I'll
be
briefing
the
commissioners
on
that
june,
7th
and
kind
of
talking
about
next
steps
and
I've
been
invited.
Thank
you
all
from
the
city
of
asheville
to
present
to
their
public
safety
committee.
M
The
goal
is
to
do
this
in
coordination
with
each
other
and
work
simultaneously
to
help
address
community
violence,
and
so
I
just
wanted
you
guys
to
be
aware,
and
if
you're
able
to
watch
it
and
see
it
and
that's
kind
of
our
update.
So
thank
you.
A
A
A
Q
The
meeting
that
we
had
last
week
with
the
non-profit,
I
think
you
wanted
to
give
a
quick,
quick
update.
T
Q
T
Q
I
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
the
organization
that
we
met
with
that
we
heard
from,
but
essentially
it
was
a
non-profit
organization
that
had
spoken
to.
I
think
the
public
defenders
as
a
whole
in
the
state
of
north
carolina
they're,
an
entity
that
provides
supportive
services
to
public
defenders,
is
my
impression
and
we
okay.
Can
I
pass
the
ball
to
you.
T
Thank
you
you're
right
what
they,
what
this
came
up
in
a
in
a
statewide
meeting
of
the
public
defenders.
They
presented
this
this
organization
presented-
and
I
don't
know
the
name
right
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
talked
with
them
about
an
audit
of
services.
They
could
come
in
and
perhaps
look
at
what
we're
doing
and
how
we're
coordinating
our
diversion
services
with
our
treatment
courts
and
they
were
going
to
get
back
with
us
about.
T
You
know
what
kind
of
plan
what
what
they
could
offer
us
and
what
kind
of
service
they
could
do
and
how
long
it
would
take
them
to
do
this
audit
and
how
much
it
would
cost
and
who
would
pay
for
it
and
all
that,
and
so
it's
just
very
beginning
stages
of
of
having
somebody
having
an
outside
organization
that
could
come
and
look
at
how
we're
doing
the
things
that
we're
doing
within
the
system.
And
I
I
thought
it
was
a
decent
idea.
A
M
Can
y'all
hear
me,
I
got
permission
to
do
this.
I
wanna
this
is
gonna,
be
probably
regina,
rey's
last
meeting
as
a
probation,
representation
of
probation
and
she's
retiring
after
30
plus
years
of
service.
Did
I
get
the
number
of
years
right,
32.
B
J
The
juneteenth
of
asheville
juneteenth
event
coming
up
on
june
18th.
It's
really
important
that
lots
and
lots
of
people
show
up
for
it
and
show
the
support,
especially
especially
after
you
know,
such
recent
tragedies.
It's
important
that
folks
feel
feel
the
love
and
community
support
and
to
the
degree
that
that
county
government
can
you
know,
let
them
know
that
you're
there.
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
public
comment,
folks
from
the
public
that
would
like
to
share.
A
Okay,
haven't
seen
any
all
right
see
now
before
we
adjourn
I'd
like
the
body
to
consider
if
you're
all
are
ready
to
move
back
to
in
person.
I
think
all
of
all
of
my
other
meetings
are
now
in
person
at
this
point,
so
I
wanted
to
give
you
all
the
option
as
well.
A
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
meeting
space,
so
I'd
have
to
start
working
on
that
asap
if
we're
going
to
move
back
into
in
person
for
j-rex,
so
just
want
to
open
that
up
to
see
if
there
are
any
thoughts-
or
I
guess
any
objections
to
trying
to
move
into
in
person
for
our
next
meeting,
which
I
think
would
be
what's
this
june
august.
A
A
Yeah,
so
if
you,
if
you
have
meetings
before
after
can't,
make
it
physically
or
just
not
comfortable
quite
yet
coming
in
person,
we'll
we'll
do
hybrid,
but
I
think
I've
I've
had
that
question
posed
to
me
a
couple
of
times.
So
I
think
some
of
us
are
ready
to
get
back
together
in
person.
I
don't
know
if
it
has
something
to
do
with
lunch.
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
think
so,
but
but
we'll
we'll
move
back
into
in
person
and
we'll
do
hybrid
for
some
period
of
time.
A
So
we'll
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
This
has
been
a
good
meeting
good
meeting.