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Halyee Madfis from Buncombe County planning department joined us today to discuss the next phase of engagement around the 20-year land use plan, called the 2043 Buncombe County comprehensive plan. Learn about what we heard from earlier community input sessions and where and how you can engage this draft plan in this next phase of engagement.
A
You're,
listening
to
Tapped
in
Buncombe
County's
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hour
to
empower
on
wres
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FM
in
Asheville,
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and
get
tapped
into
local
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resources.
Information
and
topics
learn
more
about
the
topics
of
today's
show
at
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Okay,
it's
time
to
get
tapped
in
hello,
hello,
hello
and
welcome
to
this
day
in
this
year
for
tapped
in
that's
right,
you're,
listening
to
Zakia
Bell
Rogers
and
my
amazing
co-host
and.
A
B
Joining
us
today
is
our
guest
guest,
whose
department
has
been
working
on
a
20-year
land
use
plan
known
as
the
2043
Buncombe
County
comprehensive
plan.
We
have
had
several
conversations
on
this
radio
over
the
past
year
about
this
plan,
but
we
want
to
keep
the
community
up
to
date
and
informed
about
where
the
county
is
in
this
process
of
drafting
this
plan.
B
A
You
all
right,
thank
you,
Haley,
for
coming
on
down
and
being
here
with
us.
You
know
think
a
lot
of
times
like
when
we
roll
something
out.
It's
so
foreign
to
our
community,
because
our
community
changes
a
lot
and
some
things
are
just
absolutely
new.
So
can
we
just
go
over?
What
is
a
comprehensive
plan?
Definitely.
C
That's
a
great
question
Zakia,
so
this
is
our
first
ever
comprehensive
plan
for
Buncombe
County.
We
have
had
some
land
use
planned,
specifically,
obviously,
we've
had
our
strategic
plans,
so
a
comprehensive
plan
is
kind
of
all
in
the
name.
It's
a
big
long-range,
broad
planning
document
that
looks
20
years
into
the
future.
It's
our
vision,
it's
what
the
community
wants
to
see
20
years
from
now
from
now.
So
in
2043,
you
know
what
do
we
want
the
community
to
be
like,
and
so
this
is
how
we
plan
for
that.
C
It
focuses
on
how
we're
going
to
grow,
how
we're
going
to
conserve
our
environment,
how
we
can
plan
for
Parks,
Health,
Care,
all
kinds,
protecting
our
community
Through
Hazard
mitigation
and
resilience,
infrastructure
and
energy.
So,
like
I,
said,
it's
very
comprehensive,
broad,
a
lot
of
topics
a
little
overwhelming
so.
B
Haley
I
heard
you
say
this
was
the
first
time.
Buncombe
County
has
ever
done
this,
and
so
we
know
in
Buckland
County.
We
have
Incorporated
areas
in
the
unincorporated
area,
so
the
residents
of
Asheville
may
say
yeah
city
of
Asheville
had
a
comprehensive
plan.
So
how
will
this
comprehensive
plan
for
Vulcan
County
interact
or
engage
with
the
other
comprehensive
plants
like
Woodfin
and
city
of
Asheville?
Another.
C
Great
question
yeah,
so
the
city
I
believe
adopted
their
most
recent
comprehensive
plan
in
2019
I.
Think
Woodfin
is
currently
still
working
on
theirs,
I
believe
all
the
towns
I
believe
all
the
towns
have
comprehensive
plans,
so
Weaverville
and
Black
Mountain,
Black
Mountain
for
sure
yeah,
and
this
is
for
unincorporated
Buncombe
County.
That's
our
jurisdiction,
that's
definitely
the
focus,
but
we
can't
plan
on
a
vacuum
and
we
have
to
partner
with
our
neighbors
and
the
town
and
the
towns
and
the
city
are
very
important
Partners
to
us.
A
C
C
So
chapter
one
was
really
a
preparation
phase,
so
that
started
back
in
October
2021
right,
yeah
21.,
and
we
spoke
with
the
city
of
Asheville,
all
of
the
municipalities
in
Buncombe
County,
and
we
spoke
with
our
surrounding
municipalities.
So
we
got
to
talk
to
Henderson
County,
all
the
counties
around
us,
and
we
got
to
talk
to
a
lot
of
other
stakeholders
in
the
community,
our
MSD
water
suppliers,
those
kind
of
folks.
So
we
got
some
really
good
heavy
background
information
in
chapter
two.
That
was
our
first
time
going
out
into
the
community.
C
So
we
got
our
big
Community
engagement
phase,
one
going.
We
hosted
about
10
in-person,
Community
meetings
that
was
in
March
to
April,
I,
believe
of
2022.,
and
we
got
a
decent
turnout
for
that
I
believe
it
was
just
over.
A
thousand
people
took
the
poll
that
was
our
first
poll
asking
a
lot
of
questions.
It
was
a
big
one.
Remember
20,.
C
Was
a
big
lift
yeah
so
then,
from
there
we
went
into
chapter
three,
which
is
our
second
engagement
phase,
and
we
use
a
lot
of
that
information
that
we
got
in
the
in
the
chapter
two
that
we
heard
from
the
public.
We
we
came
back
and
we
said
we
heard
that
you
you
all
said
this
is
this
right?
Are
we
right?
Are
we
on
the
right
path,
so
we're
sort
of
checking
in
in
chapter
three
and
we
did
a
lot
of
Engagement.
As
you
all
probably
remember,
we.
A
B
C
So
we
we
are
kind
of
pulling
that
together
we
have
five
Vision
themes
that
are
gonna
guide
the
plan.
These
are
like
the
highest
level,
very
aspirational
Reach
for
the
Stars
types
of
visions,
and
so
those
are
strive
to
achieve
equity,
commit
to
sustainability,
achieve
livability
and
affordability,
focus
on
conservation
and
root.
Efforts
in
community.
A
Well,
what
does
that
mean
yeah
and
that's
why
it's
so
important
for
everybody
to
come
to
the
table
if
you
can
find
the
table
sit
at
it?
Yes
give
your
your
part,
and
you
know
someone
I
remember.
We
were
looking
through
Facebook,
because
you
know
we
put
a
lot
of
information
on
Buncombe
County's
webpage
on
Facebook
or
site
post
on
on
Facebook,
and
a
lot
of
people
were
like
20.
A
C
It
so
that
we
can
look
like
that.
Yes,
exactly,
it
is
a
little
confusing
because
we're
like,
what's
your
20-year
Vision,
but
no
one
gets
there.
You
know
by
waiting
20
years.
We
have
to
start
acting
now.
So
once
this
plan
is
adopted-
and
hopefully
that's
in
the
spring
of
this
coming
year,
so
spring
of
23.,
we
will
have
all
these
actions
ready
for
us
to
take
on.
C
You
know
over
the
next
couple
years.
The
other
big
thing
this
plan
will
impact
is
our
next
strategic
plan,
so
that
will
help
guys
staff
staff's
day-to-day
work.
So
this
is
going
to
start.
You
know,
trickling
down
into
the
county
into
departments
and
we'll
have
our
yearly
budgets
and
have
be
and
be
directed
by
the
plan.
You
know
immediately.
Oh
yeah.
C
A
C
A
A
The
end
even
say
what-
and
so
you
know,
but
again
we
have
to
really
push
the
fact
that
this
is
important,
not
just
for
us
who
are
already
here,
but
for
those
who
are
coming
behind
us,
yes,
yeah,
definitely,
and
so-
and
this
is
truly
truly,
you
know
seeing
a
building
and
going
okay.
How
do
we
put
this
building
together,
like
an
artist
May
draw
a
building,
and
then
you
go
in
and
they're
like
okay?
Well,
how
do
we
get
these
doors
here?
C
A
And
then,
in
10
years
we
have
this
house
exactly
like
we
plant,
but
we
all
worked
together
and
we
did
the
work
together.
So
I
think
that's
so
important
for
the
community
to
know
that
we
have
to
work
together
on
this.
Okay.
So
now
we
have
a
2043
comprehensive
plan.
Exhibit
yes,
oh
my
goodness
that
sounds
exciting
and.
A
C
That's
that's
another
great
question,
so
we
are
very
excited
to
put
on
this
comprehensive
plan.
Exhibit
it's
all
the
work
that
we
have
done
in
planning
in
Cape
as
residents
in
the
community.
It's
all
the
work
that
the
residents
have
done
and
so
they're
going
to
be
able
to
see
all
the
information
that
they've.
Given
us
the
the
questions
that
they
answer
they're
going
to
come
to
life,
so
we
will
be
starting
that
exhibit
in
person
at
a
number
of
our
libraries
I
believe
the
date
that
it
begins
is
December
12th.
A
C
Can
also
find
the
dates
and
locations
for
the
in-person
exhibits
on
that
website
as
well
and
yeah.
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
way
for
people
to
who
weren't
able
to
catch
every
phase.
Every
moment
they'll
see
everything
there'll
be
lots
of
posters,
there'll
be
a
big
timeline
showing
every
event.
That's
been
done,
there'll
be
lots
of
fun
photos
of
capturing
people,
engaging
we'll
have
a
really
nice
exhibit
of
all
the
kids
postcards
that
were
submitted.
B
C
So
it
is,
it
is
a
very
heavy
policy
document,
because
that's
really
what
the
plan
is,
but
it's
a
little
bit
pared
down,
so
it
will
be
a
little
smaller
version
of
the
final
plan,
but
it's
not
really
going
to
miss
much.
It's
gonna
you'll
be
able
to
read
through
all
of
those
Vision
themes.
I
mentioned
our
goals,
which
we
have
seven
goals.
C
That
kind
of
outline
the
whole
plan
into
different
the
different
chapters
of
the
plan,
and
then
we
have
our
policies
and
actions
and
the
actions
are
the
are
like
the
real.
You
know
what
we're
going
to
be
doing.
You
know
so
people
can
kind
of
like
flip
through
if
they
just
want
to
skip
to
the
actions
and
see
what
we're
going
to
get
into
and
make
comments
on
that.
Oh
okay,
like
I
like
I
like
that
action
or
this
action,
this
action
needs
a
little
tweaking.
So
this
is
the
opportunity.
C
B
C
That's
right,
yeah,
so
it's
not
too
late
to
give
your
feedback
and
get
involved
we'll
be
taking
open
comments.
We'll
also
have
some
pointed
questions
to
kind
of
focus.
The
reading
of
the
plan
so
that
people
don't
feel
like
so
overwhelmed
it'll
be
a
little
bit
more
like
keep
it
organized.
We'll
have
some
questions
and
some
activities
that
people
can
can
do
to
help
help
make
the
plan
better
for
everybody
and.
B
C
C
We've
made
sure
to
spread
this
event
through
the
libraries
that
are
out
in
the
county,
some
a
little
closer
to
the
city
so
that,
hopefully
it's
easy
for
people
to
get
to,
and
so
just
be
aware
that
these
exhibits
are
it's
a
moving
exhibit,
so
it
will
be
at,
for
instance,
the
Black
Mountain
Library
on
December
15th,
but
then
it's
moving
on
December
16th
to
the
Weaverville
Library.
Okay,
so
you'll
have
to
catch
it,
make
sure
you
check
the
dates
and
you
can
catch
it,
but
the
date
where
it
is
okay,.
A
A
C
So
if
you
want
to
walk
through
the
virtual
exhibit,
there
is
an
opportunity
to
just
click.
On
the
last
button
and
review
the
plan
submit
it's
sort
of
a
poll,
it's
really
more
I,
guess
of
an
activity
that
helps
you
guy
that
helps
guide
you
through
the
draft.
So
just
hope.
It's
again,
it's
just
reviewing
the
draft,
but
these
activities
help
you
kind
of
stay
organized.
They
ask
you
some
pointed
questions
so
that
you
can
think
about.
Okay.
This
is
a
comment.
I
want
to
make
about
this
plan.
C
So,
yes,
there
is
an
opportunity
for
one
last
activity,
slash
poll-
and
you
can
just
skip
to
that
as
well
on
the
engage
website.
If
you
don't
want
to
take,
go
and
look
at
the
virtual
exhibit
and
you're
like
I'm,
just
ready
to
write
to
dig
into
that
plan,
you
can
just
jump
to
that
button
and
go
take
a
look
at
the
draft
plan
right
away.
B
And
so
I
know
when
we
first
started
talking
about
the
comprehensive
plan
that
this
you
know
it's
a
20-year
plan,
but
the
county
wanted
to
be
very
intentional-
that
there's
a
ground
up
kind
of
process
to
make
sure
that
Community
is
involved.
Can
you
just
speak
to
someone
like
how
the
county
was
intentional
about
reaching
out
to
various
communities
from
rural
areas,
to
our
Urban
centers,
most
different,
races
and
stuff?
You
just
want
to
share
how
we've
been
more
intentional
and
just
trying
to
be
more
Equitable
about
this
process.
Definitely.
C
C
We
got
out
to
Bernardsville,
you
know
in
a
little
closer
into
town
into
Fairview
and
Candler
Inca,
so
we
we
made
sure
to
spread
geographically
pretty
well,
you
know
where
lucky
because
the
county
we
we
do
have
community
centers,
we
do
have
libraries
and
places
where
people
do
gather
out
in
the
county,
so
that
was
that
was
nice.
We
also
were
able
to
connect
with
our
latinx
and
African-American
communities
through
various
Avenues.
C
Cape
was
really
influential
in
connecting
us
with
some
of
our
African-American
communities
through
the
Legacy
neighborhood
groups
and
as
far
as
one
of
our
Legacy
neighborhood
groups
Emma,
we
were
able
to
connect
with
through
a
member
on
our
steering
committee.
We
were
able
to
get
into
Emma
pretty
well
and
get
a
lot
of
our
materials,
if
not
most,
of
our
materials
translate
into
Spanish,
which
has
been
really
helpful
to
communicate
with
people
who
primarily
speak
Spanish.
C
A
A
you'll,
be
ready
to
sign
up
for
Medicare
those
who
are
born
in
2025,
who
are
not
here
yet
as
long
as
they're
there
before
the
voting
date,
they'll
be
able
to
vote
wow
and
all
those
little
kids
that
are
running
around
right
now.
Driving
us
crazy,
who
were
born
in
2021
will
be
graduating
from
high
school
wow.
So
when
we
think
about
this,
we're,
like
you
know,
these
are
a
lot
of
things.
That's
going
to
happen.
A
We
have
no
idea,
you
know
how
important
this
is
until
you
put
it
in
perspective,
like
all
these
folks
like
we're,
looking
like,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
be
honest,
I'll
be
63
and
243.
I'll
still
be
happy
and
working,
and
you
know
doing
all
those
things,
but
you
know
we
we
think
about
time
like
that,
but
when
you
put
it
on
other
folks
lines,
so
what
do
you
want
in
your
community?
Those
who
have
had
babies
in
2021?
Those
who
may
have
a
baby
in
2025
or
those
who
were
born
in
1978.
A
C
A
Is
you
know
it's
like
when
you
start
putting
it
into
that
reference
of
your
life
and
things
that
you
want
like
what
could
actually
be
possible
in
2043
and
that's
what
I
think
is
so
important
for
us
to
get
involved
in
our
community
and
really
really
just
put
you
know,
put
the
the
PIN
to
the
paper,
the
voices
you
know
into
the
air
and
really
get
out
there.
So
you
know
we
don't
have
that
much
time
left.
We
have
about
nine
minutes.
C
Yeah
I
think
that
you
know
it
sounds
like
you
know,
we're
kind
of,
at
least
for
me.
It
feels
like
we're
kind
of
like
all
right
we're
getting
to
the
end.
I
can
see
the
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
we're
not
done
yet
yeah
and
there's
still
opportunities
to
you
know,
get
engaged
to
make
a
comment
to
you.
Never
know
where
that
comment
might
lead.
C
I
mean
it
could
shift
things,
not
it's
maybe
not
drastically,
but
slightly,
and
it
could
really
impact
your
community
by
kind
of
just
taking
a
moment,
to
read
the
draft
or
do
part
of
it.
Even
that's
another
thing,
I
wanted
to
say:
if
you
don't,
if
you
feel
overwhelmed
by
the
draft
plan
or
any
of
these
activities
you
just
if
you
just
do
one
thing,
you
know
that's
still
impactful
and
you
know
it
it
like
Zakia
said
this
is
for
everyone.
This
is
all
of
our
plan.
C
It
does
have
a
really
broad
reach.
It
has
a
really
far
reach
that
20
years,
it's
a
little
over
overwhelming,
but
but
yeah
I
think
that
anyone
could
still
get
involved.
Even
if
you
missed
all
of
the
first
ones,
you'll
the
exhibit
isn't
really
helpful
to
catch
you
up
on
what
happened.
So
you
won't
feel
like
you
missed
something
you
you
won't
feel
left
out,
you'll
get
caught
up
and
then
you
can
Jump
Right
In,
take
a
peek,
make
a
comment
or
if
it's
perfect,
you're
like
this
is
perfect.
C
C
B
And
so
just
as
you
know,
I
know
we're
about
to
wrap
up,
but
just
sitting
here
thinking
I'm
a
native
of
the
area
and
you
think
of
how
much
we
work
live
and
play
Within,
Buckland
County
and
going
between
Asheville
Buncombe
County,
Black
Mountain.
And
so
that's
why
we
strongly
encourage
a
lot
of
people
just
participate
in
this
process
because
you
may
think
oh
I
live
in
Nashville
I.
Don't
need
to
worry
about
the
County
plan.
But
how
often
do
you
just
go
to
the
Walmart
in
you
in
the
undercorporate
party.
B
Part
of
the
county,
so
just
being
aware
of
that
that
your
voice
matter
and
we
realize
that
various
communities
and
different
different
demographics
are
found
in
different
areas.
But
we
want
all
those
voices
to
come
because
Equity
was
at
the
center
of
this
plan
and,
as
we
say,
it's
20
years,
so
just
think
how
you
can
participate
in
that
process.
B
20
years,
though
sound
like
a
long
time,
but
as
Haley
had
mentioned
possibly
the
spring,
they
approved
this
plan
and
those
actions
start
going
into
effect
next
year,
and
so
we
really
want
Community
to
understand-
and
you
I
said,
I
filled
out
that
survey
before,
but
just
keep
checking
into
the
process
stay
engaged
in
it
just
a
reminding
Community.
You
know
you
always
can
find
information
about
the
comprehensive
plan
at
bucklandcounty.org
under
the
comprehensive
plan
and
also
engage
Buncombe.
B
We
all
hear
and
we're
trying
to
make
a
better
future
for
us
quite
a
few
gender
people
that
we
live
in
so
again,
you
can
always
go
out
to
buckinghamcounty.org
under
the
comprehensive
plan
to
get
caught
up,
and
you
also
can
sign
up
for
a
newsletter
so
that
newsletter
where
they
come
out
to
you
to
let
you
know
where
these
phases,
what
we
had
in
the
phase,
what
events
are
happening
and
where
you
can
participate
in
that
process.
Haley
had
mentioned
that
some
of
these
upcoming
events
are
starting
starting
here
in
December.
B
We
know
it's
the
holidays,
so
starting
around
January
at
beginning
of
the
new
year
into
February.
This
exhibit
will
be
traveling
around
the
county
and
you
also
can
find
it
virtually
as
well
to
participate
in
that
process.
So
we're
here
to
keep
Community
engaged
informed
on
the
information
and
always
we're
looking
for
your
participation
to
make
this
a
better
for
home
county
for
everyone.
C
Well,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me.
This
is
awesome.
I'm
glad
I
got
to
share
a
little
bit
about
the
calm
plan,
the
exhibit
the
final
draft,
a
lot
of
final
draft,
the
draft
plan,
the
final
chapter
and
yeah,
just
to
reiterate
a
little
bit
of
what
Leonard
said:
you'll
have
until
February
13th
to
review
the
draft
plan.
A
You
gotta
love,
Professor,
Jones,
yeah
Haley.
Once
again.
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming
and
and
sharing
with
us
today.
Leonard
always
thank
you
for
being
my
amazing
co-host
and
I
just
want
to
say
to
all
our
listeners
out
there.
You
know
we
it
all.
It's
so
funny
how
we
we
say
as
we
get
older
I
could
have
sworn
it
was
just
October,
and
here
it
is
January
of
the
next
year.
A
A
We
plan
family
reunions,
we
plan
kids
birthday
parties,
we
plan
our
vacations,
but
do
we
ever
plan
for
the
destination
of
our
community
in
the
future,
and
that
is
where
we
are
now
it's
funny
how
you
look
back
and
I
know
many
of
you
all
probably
still
have
like
your
old
High
School
senior
year
book
and
and
ask
those
questions.
Where
do
you
see
yourself
in
five
years?
Where
do
you
got
there
or
not?
A
You
had
ideas
on
how
to
get
there,
and
maybe
this
is
a
chance
for
you
to
go
back
and
say:
hey
where
do
I
see
myself
in
Buncombe
County
in
2043,
and
what
do
I
need
to
do
to
make
sure
that
these
things
are
continuing
to
happen?
How
can
I
be
involved?
Of
course
you
can
go
to
engage.fuckingcounty.org
and
you
can
go
ahead
and
get
re-evolved
in
case
stay
involved
so
that
we
can
build
a
better
Buncombe
County
together,
as
Leonard
said,
sometimes
we
say:
I
live
in
Asheville.
A
You
know,
I
have
to
be
honest
with
you.
All
of
this
is
not
Asheville.
Some
of
the
places
you
are
living
in
is
Buncombe
County
and
that's
okay.
That
is
absolutely
okay.
You
are
still
part
of
the
the
fold,
but,
as
this
new
year
comes
running
towards
us,
full
speed
like
a
train
yeah,
let's
take
a
moment,
sit
back,
get
off
of
social
media
and
log
on
to
this
engage.bottomcounty.org
and
really
take
a
moment
to
invest.