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Description
Briefing of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on January 17, 2023. The briefing is a chance for Commissioners to review agenda items before the meeting. No motions will take place during the briefing.
A
Commissioners,
are
there
any
items
other
than
those
on
the
published
agenda
that
you'd
like
to
discuss
at
the
briefing
meeting
today.
A
Once
we
get
to
the
other
two
items,
we
do
need
to
adjourn
by
4
30
for
a
closed
session
to
review
Personnel
matter
so,
but
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
get
that
done.
Anything
else.
A
Okay,
great!
Well,
let's
move
on
to
our
first.
Are
there
any
questions
about
any
other
items
on
the
regular
meeting
agenda
this
evening?
A
Okay,
then,
let's
go
to
our
first
item,
which
is
an
update
on
the
community
reparations
commission
and
assistant
County
Manager
DK
Wesley
is
here
to
get
us
started
on
this.
C
Good
good
afternoon,
Commissioners,
okay,
Wesley
I'm,
not
going
to
be
with
you,
but
a
brief
minute
I'm
going
to
introduce
to
you
Christine
Edwards
from
civility
localized
she's,
going
to
bring
forward
a
presentation
specifically
focused
on
the
immediate
recommendation
that
was
put
forward
by
the
community
reparations
Commission
on
December
5th.
She
is
with
us
virtually
also
joining
in
the
event
you
have
questions
is
our
by
our
chair
of
the
community
reparations
commission
and
our
vice
chair.
D
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Commissioners.
Thank
you,
DK
for
having
me
here
this
afternoon.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
all
can
see
me
and
hear
me:
okay,
yeah,
all
right,
perfect,
so
I'm
happy
to
be
joining
you.
Virtually
I
did
get
a
chance
to
talk
to
you
all
I
think
it
was
November
of
last
year.
So
it's
good
to
have
these
periodic
updates.
If
I
could
get
screen
share
capabilities,
then
I
will
go
ahead
and
share
our
up.
Our
update.
D
And
so
this,
this
presentation
should
be
fairly
brief
and
I'm
glad
that
we
have
our
chair
in
the
vice
chair
in
the
room
as
well,
to
just
sort
of
provide
some
additional
information
and
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
all
have
all
right.
I'm,
going
to
start
sharing
my
screen.
D
Okay,
so
this
short
presentation
is
going
to
detail
some
of
the
work
that
the
community
reparations
commission
has
done
in
regard
to
the
immediate
recommendation
to
stop
the
harm,
and
so
this
presentation
is
the
Buncombe
County
and
city
of
Asheville
response
plan.
So
the
key
takeaways
today
are
on
December
5th.
The
community
reparations
commission
passed
an
immediate
recommendation
to
in
for
the
harm
by
ceasing
repetition
of
institutional
processes
that
lead
to
racially
disparate
outcomes.
D
That
recommendation
included
a
call
for
the
county
and
City
to
conduct
an
official
audit
to
ensure
compliance
with
federal
and
state
laws,
regulatory
bodies,
codes
of
conduct,
court
orders
and
consent.
Decrees,
confirming
that
further
harm
to
the
African-American
Community
has
ended.
The
County,
Commission
and
city
council
are
being
asked
to
consider
adoption
of
a
resolution
authorizing
staff
to
develop
a
scope
of
work
that
will
then
lead
to
the
selection
of
a
firm
to
conduct
this
requested
audit
and
then
upon
resolution.
D
Approval
County
and
City
staff
will
work
with
the
CRC
to
develop
a
scope
for
the
audit,
select
the
firm
and
then
review
and
prioritize
remediation
opportunities
that
scope
of
work.
The
audit,
firm
selection
process
and
review
of
prioritization
of
opportunities
will
also
be
discussed
at
the
monthly
CRC
meetings.
D
So
the
immediate
recommendation
that
was
passed
on
December
5th
it
it
details
as
such,
it
is
recommended
that
the
county
and
City
provide
assurance
and
take
effective
measure
measures
to
end
ongoing
and
current
harms
due
to
intentional
and
unintentional
policies,
programs,
practices
and
procedures
called
for
that
the
county
and
City
to
conduct
an
audit
to
ensure
compliance
with
federal
and
state
laws,
regulatory
bodies,
codes
of
conduct,
court
orders
and
consent
degrees.
This
audit
will
demonstrate
that
successation
of
harms
has
occurred
and
will
prevent
further
harms
or
threats
to
African
Americans.
D
So
this
draft
resolution,
which
I
believe
you
all
have
received,
describes
the
vote
taken
on
December
5th,
approving
the
immediate
recommendation.
It
summarizes
the
call
to
conduct
an
official
audit
to
ensure
compliance
with
federal
and
state
laws
Etc,
and
it
also
directs
the
county
and
the
city
staff
to
collaborate
with
the
CRC
to
help
really
develop
that
scope
and
work
on
that
formal,
solicitation
and,
of
course,
upon
completion
commits
to
reviewing
and
prioritizing
these
audit
findings
to
remediate
the
perpetuation
of
further
harm.
D
So
that
is
what
is
being
asked
of
today
at
the
city,
equity
and
engagement
committee
level,
but
also
at
the
County
commission
level
and
last
but
not
least,
here
is
a
snapshot
of
the
timeline.
So,
of
course,
on
December
5th,
the
community
reparations
commission
adopted
this
immediate
recommendation
to
stop
the
harm.
Then,
over
the
past
month,
the
city
and
county
has
developed
an
implementation
plan
and
drafted
a
resolution
on
January
9th.
D
At
the
last
meeting,
we
reviewed
the
implementation
plan
and
we
discussed
this
draft
resolution
with
the
commission
on
January
17th,
the
County
Commission
and
city
council
equity
and
engagement
committee
are
both
receiving
this
briefing
and
providing
feedback
on
this
draft
resolution
to
authorize
staff
to
work
on
to
work
with
the
CRC
to
develop
the
audit
scope
and
begin
that
process
of
selecting
a
firm
to
connect.
The
audit
January
24th.
The
city
council
will
consider
adoption
of
this
draft
resolution
and
then
on
February
7th.
The
County
Commission
will
also
consider
adoption
of
this
draft
resolution.
D
February
20th
is
the
next
community
of
operations
Commission
meeting
so
County
and
City
staff
will
redo
the
drafts,
review,
the
draft
scope
and
then
again
on
March
20th,
County
and
City
staff
will
finalize
that
scope
of
work
with
with,
in
collaboration
with
the
CRC,
we're
looking
at
Spring
2023
to
really
finalize
and
advertise
the
solicitation
to
select
this
firm
to
conduct
the
audit
and
then
in
summer
2023.
We're
hoping
to
finalize
that
audit
and
review
some
of
these
findings
and
prioritize
the
recommendations
from
the
audit
and,
of
course,
ongoing
we're.
D
So
these
definitions
were
added
to
Aid
in
the
you
know,
to
Aid
in
the
work
and
just
to
just
provide
some
some
guardrails
around
what
we're
asking
so
as
far
as
scope
of
work,
scope
of
work
is
a
detailed
description
of
work,
milestones
and
timeline
that
are
necessary
to
complete
the
recommended
audit.
The
solicitation
is
that
public
advertisement
for
vendors
to
review
the
scope
of
work
and
submit
responses.
D
The
county
and
City
staff
in
coordination
with
the
CRC
are
going
to
be
reviewing
these
findings
from
the
audit
report
to
prioritize
them
and
really
just
seize
those
opportunities
to
ensure
the
cessation
of
harms
and
the
prevention
of
future
harms,
and
then
audit
resources
include
the
funding
required
to
conduct
the
audit
that
would
come
from
the
previously
approved
County
and
City
reparations
resources.
So
this
is
the
breakdown
of
where
we've
been
and
where
we're
going.
Thank
you
to
D.K,
Wesley
and
her
staff
in
helping
to
really
coordinate
this
and
put
this
together.
D
I
also
will
lean
on
our
our
chair
and
our
vice
chair
to
add
any
additional
commentary.
I
don't
know
if,
if
we
want
to
pause
at
this
time
for
questions.
E
E
C
So
we
have
we're
doing
research,
but
we
haven't
found
a
specific
audit,
like
this
been
being
done
anywhere
else
in
the
United
States.
We
do
know
that
there
are
compliance
audits
that
happen
right
in
different
areas
like
you
know:
American
Disabilities
Etc,
and
so
we
want
to
work
closely
with
the
city
and
the
commission
to
kind
of
iron
out
what
a
scope
might
look
like.
C
I
think
Dr
Mullen
might
have
some
ideas
on
what
we
could
include
in
that
scope
and
we'll
look
to
the
entire
commission
to
help
us
develop
the
scope
so
high
level
right,
they'll,
look
at
our
processes,
they'll,
look
at
laws,
and
you
know
decrees
that
apply
to
the
Buncombe.
County
and
they'll,
see
review
our
processes
and
our
policies
and
see
if
we're
in
compliance
or
not.
C
C
F
Good
afternoon
good
afternoon,
the
one
thing
that
actually
a
couple
of
things
that
I
would
like
to
add
is
that
the
data
we're
looking
for
the
recommendations
coming
from
the
the
subgroups
of
the
commission
to
be
database
recommendations.
The
data
that
we're
using
are
data
sources
that
aren't
official,
ranging
from
student
papers
that
compose
the
state
of
black
Asheville
to
a
variety
of
consultancy
reports
that
may
or
may
not
be
particularly
germane
to
what
we're
studying.
F
And
so
we
thought
that,
rather
than
the
subcommittees
asking
for
an
array
of
data,
taking
a
shotgun
approach
that
we
would
actually
hone
in
on
the
actual
needs
of
the
subcommittees
using
official
sources
of
data
before
we
offer
recommendations
for
policy
adoption.
The
second
reason
is
that
we
thought
that
the
difficulty
of
gain
data
from
the
various
agencies
by
the
various
commissions
was
adding
too
much
time
and
Chaos
through
the
process,
and
so
we're
asking
for
centralization.
E
F
F
And
the
reason
for
that
is
that
what
we're
looking
at
doing
is
has
not
been
done
before,
but
I
believe
we
are
anticipating,
what's
happening
on
the
Forefront
of
other
reparations
movements
in
that,
rather
than
politics
or
ideology
driving
it
that
we're
looking
at
database
Solutions
and,
in
this
case,
we're
looking
at
data
ranging
from
the
policy
makers
within
the
bureaucracy
to
the
outcomes
of
the
policy
themselves.
And
it's
looking
at
housing.
F
F
No
no,
this
is
this
is
I.
This
is
really
exciting
to
be
and
and
I
think
that,
rather
than
it
being
driven
by
bias
that
when
we
look
at
the
information
sitting
in
front
of
us,
it's
going
to
be
pretty
evident
about
the
areas
we
need
to
take
priority
in
yeah
I.
A
Guess
I
have
one
follow-up
question
you
know
parts
of
parts
of
this
seem
like
very
specific
and
pretty
narrow,
like
you
know,
reviewing
having
an
audit
to
ensure
compliance
with
federal
and
state
laws,
regulatory
bodies,
codes
of
conduct,
court,
orders,
consent,
decrees,
I
mean
that's
a
really
specific
kind
of
list
of
things
right
and
I
think
we
could
have
a
group
with
some
experience
and
expertise,
review
that
and
see
like.
Are
there
any
areas
where
there
would
be
non-compliance
with
any
of
those
specific
list
of
things?
A
Other
other
parts
of
it
seemed
super
broad
right
like
processes
for
truth,
finding
so
I
guess,
I,
guess:
I'm
I'm
when
I
when
I
look
at
the
recommendations.
I'm
a
little
unclear
about
like
some
of
these
are
really
particular
others
are
seem
very
open-ended
kind
of
looking
at.
You
know
kind
of
broader
societal
disparities
right.
F
This
is
following
the
recommendations
from
a
few
of
me,
I'm
using
the
acronyms
narc
and
and
Cobra.
These
were
the
two
national
organizations
that
are
advocating
the
bill
before
the
House
of
Representatives
right
now,
and
they
are
in
compliance
with
the
United
Nations
Declaration
on
reparations
and
talking
about.
The
very
first
thing
we
need
to
do
is
stop
the
harm,
the
cessational
harm
and
that's
the
broad
I
think
feeling
you're
getting
and
with
the
commission
itself.
F
With
the
reparations
commission
itself,
there
was
a
Feeling
is
a
feeling
of
distrust
and
and
and
it's
more
than
ambivalence,
there's
a
feeling
that
we
put
in
this
work,
and
the
idea
is
that
there
are
areas
that
are
still
going
unaddressed
and
they're,
immediate
and
ongoing
concerns
of
confronting
the
African-American
community
that
are
that
are
not
being
seen,
for
example,
the
idea
of
truth-telling.
F
You
know
very
broad
kind
of
catch-all
kind
of
phrase,
but
our
truth-telling
phrase
was
by
many
of
the
Commissioners
estimation
to
be
too
short,
and
if
there
was
a
narrative
of
the
community
that
needed
to
be
spoken
and
articulated
openly
and
publicly,
so
that
it's
acknowledged
again
in
our
policies
that
may
come
forward
the
more
specific
areas
where
we
needed
more
expertise
and
Gathering
data,
and
so
they
thought
that
first
thing
are
we
in
compliance
with
official
standings?
That's
where
the
laws
and
court
orders
and
consent?
F
Decrees,
that's
where
all
that
came
in,
and
and
because
that
expertise
was
lacking
at
the
at
the
Focus
area.
A
subcommittee
I
keep
calling
them
subcommittees,
but
they're
not
subcommittees
focus
areas.
We
have
people
in
there
that
have
some
experiential
background,
but
they
aren't
professional
researchers,
and
so
we
thought
that
that
more
specificity
was
needed
in
order
to
direct
them.
If
we
were
to
hire
an
audit
firm.
F
No
I,
I,
really
don't,
and
the
timeline
that
Christine
Edwards
just
gave
was
an
estimate.
I,
really
don't
in
fact,
I
am
concerned
about
it
in
terms
of
how
it
coordinates
with
the
ongoing
work
of
the
subcommittee,
and
so
what
I'm
asking
the
focus?
The
focus
areas
to
do
is
to
continue
their
work,
using
whatever
data
are
available,
so
that
when
we
do
have
official
information,
it's
either
it's
vetted.
Our
recommendations
are
vetted
to
be
whether
or
not
they're
accurate
or
irrelevant
this,
in
other
words,
I'm.
F
Looking
at
the
information
coming
from
the
audit,
that's
coming
in
at
the
middle
or
end
of
our
processes
and
if
necessary,
we
need
to
extend
the
length
of
the
lifetime
for
the
Commission
in
order
to
correct
any
misperceptions.
F
Really
the
I
don't
want
to
call
them
children.
The
youth
group
that
has
been
granted
money
I
think
from
the
county
as
well
as
some
other
sources
in
collecting
narrative,
has
been
of
one
of
the
ways
in
which
the
community
has
has
expressed
interest
in
participating,
in
other
words,
gathering
together
to
tell
stories
and
together
experiences
of
the
individuals
who
are
involved
with
the
aspects
of
the
committee's
subject,
research
areas.
F
Let
me
give
you
an
example:
we've
had
people
show
up
at
the
commission
meetings
who
wanted
to
talk
about
what
happened
with
their
family
during
urban
renewal
because
they
felt
that
no
one
knew
and
they
needed
to
be
told,
and
we
didn't
have
a
mechanism
for
that.
Another
has
been.
We
had.
A
student
group
show
up
to
talk
about
their
experiences
in
the
public
school
systems
and
that
kind
of
narrative,
I
think
adds
something
other
than
the
cold
hard
facts
of
numbers.
A
Can
I
follow
up
on
that
too,
then,
if
it
isn't,
isn't,
is
an
auditing
process
really
the
best
way
to
get
at
those
kinds
of
concerns?
I
mean
I,
think
they're
really
substantive
and
really
valid,
but
they
seem
like
such
different
things
and
so
I,
just
I
kind
of
I
kind
of
wonder.
If
this
idea
of
like
hey,
let's
do
an
audit
for
compliance.
A
You
know
my
you
know,
yield
some
interesting
information
and
then
and
then
this
other
process
around
like
kind
of
getting
data.
Looking
at
like
what's
really
happened
here
in
our
community,
so
we
have
the
facts,
things
like
that
they
just
they
seem
like
really
different
processes
and
maybe
there'd
be
really
different
kinds
of
like
people
or
organizations
that
might
be
needed
to
track
down.
A
One
set
of
answer,
one
set
of
questions
versus
some
of
these
things
that
are
really
like
a
part
of
Asheville's
history
and
our
community
and
that
kind
of
fact-finding
process
which
might
not
have
anything
to
do
with
whether
we're
complying
with
current.
You
know,
regulations
or
something
like
that,
but
it's
about
our
history
and
what
we
want
to
do
with
it
right.
H
H
That's
supporting
the
work,
but
we
also
the
commission,
is
really
interested
in
looking
at
what
our
city
and
County's
role
is
in
the
perpetuation
of
the
Harms
and
how
we
can
work
with
our
city
and
county
to
to
stop
the
harm,
and
so
the
audit
is
going
to
give
us
the
data.
One
thing
is:
trust
is
a
thing
and
when
you
ask,
potential
perpetuate
is
not
like.
H
H
What
we
already
assume
is
the
reality
based
on
the
reality
of
today,
but
have
the
facts
to
back
it
up
and
so
is
Beau
fan.
You
need
the
stories
and
you
need
the
data.
So
the
audit
is
super
important
and
it's
not
just
on
the
compliance,
how
it's
been
limited
a
little
bit
and
the
resolution,
but
it's
also
the
financial,
because
the
financial
impacts
are
real
to
the
black
community,
and
so
we
also
want
to
look
at
both
as
both
fan
But.
To
answer
that
question.
I
You
know
it's
a
good
question
or
it's
kind
of
a
statement
and
then
a
question
based
on
what
you're
going
to
do
with
that
data.
If
we
took
something
that
very
specific
that
chair
Newman
mentioned,
for
example,
court
orders
or
current
local
rules,
and
we
found
something
that
was
Antiquated
or
some
old
rule
that
we're
applying
I.
Imagine
that
would
be
where
some
of
the
storytelling
in
people's
present
experience
might
intersect
with
our
audit,
to
the
extent
that
we
could
change
something
specific.
I
That's
done
a
specific
harm
to
a
group
of
people
disproportionate
in
our
community.
Some
of
that
doesn't
fall
within
the
strictly
county
or
city
range.
Is
some
of
that
data
being
going
to
be
shared
with
our
court
actors.
The
people
who
are
implicated
in
this
by
by
the
harm
that
you're
discussing
but
might
not
otherwise
be
a
part
of
this
process
that
we're
doing
through
reparations?
Yes,.
H
So
this
process
is
not
just
limited
to
like.
We
want
the
audit
from
the
city
and
county.
Yes,
definitely,
but
we
are
in
all
of
our
Focus
areas,
looking
at
those
other
partners
from
Dogwood
Hill
to
different
other
bodies
of
people,
the
courts
and
criminal
justice
and
different
things
like
that
and
bringing
them
to
the
table
to
to
be
a
part
of
these
conversations
like
it's
not
just
going
to
be
the
reparations
commission
and
the
focus
areas,
that's
really
going
to
influence
the
change.
H
F
Let
me
let
me
add
to
it:
is
that
I
think
you're
hitting
on
a
major
issue
that
has
not
come
up
before
on
the
commission's
agenda.
We've
just
not
had
time
to
discuss
it
is
that
a
good
part
of
the
harm
of
the
African-American
community
did
not
come
through
government.
It
came
through
the
private
sector,
and
so
the
idea
of
the
role
of
the
private
sector
is
yet
to
be
researched
completely,
and
let
me
give
an
example
of
that.
F
Neither
not
the
government
is
not
responsible
for
mortgage
loans
and
the
idea
of
home
ownership
is
a
key
factor
in
the
resolutions
passed
by
the
city
and
county.
We
need
that
information.
If
we,
if
it
is
indicated
that
there
has
been
a
non-compliance
with
non-discriminatory
measures,
then
we
start
talking
about
other
other
recommendations
to
be
made.
F
F
We
have
professional
researchers
that
are
designed
to
and
I
think
trained
to,
go
through
archives
and
and
government,
and
as
well
as
there's
economic
reports,
but
there's
another
type
of
researcher
that
is
and
I
hate
to
use
the
term
soft
research,
but
that
type
of
research,
which
is
much
more
ethnographically
based,
is
the
kind
of
research
that
I
think
is
a
second
source
is
needed
for,
but
who
that
might
be
and
how
we
might
go
about
it
is
it's
a
different
as
a
different
type
of
search,
I.
Think.
J
Would
it
be
fair
to
say
that
one
way
to
think
about
this
would
be
phase?
One
would
be
this
audit
that
focuses
on
the
question
of
compliance
with
federal
and
state
laws,
regulatory
bodies,
codes
of
conduct,
Etc,
sort
of
a
more
technical,
legalistic
assessment
that
will
determine
whether
there's
any
non-compliance.
J
That's
currently
outgoing
that
that
that
that
might
be
phase
one
of
this
and
that
phase
two
is
a
much
broader
but
critically
important,
look
at
under
the
focus
areas
that
were
that
we're
looking
at
that
we
know
there
are
well-documented
disparities
that
exist
and
and
and
this
phase
two
would
be
identifying
whether
there
are
active
city
and
county
or
past
or
present
policies
or
programs.
J
F
Commissioner
I
think
it
is,
and
in
addition,
it
is
my
hope
from
the
qualitative
research
that
is
done
is
that
when
people
are
questioning
directly
when
the
narrative
is
looked
out,
they
often
have
ideas
about
how
they
can
best
be
satisfied.
J
D
And
and
I'll
add
one
thing
there
because
I
think
that's
a
good
sort
of
clarification.
Commissioner,
the
phase
one
and
phase
two
I
do
think.
The
idea
here
is
data.
You
know
this
quantitative
and
qualitative
data,
but
at
the
same
time,
the
desire
to
really
launch
this
and
seek
those
immediate
recommendations
right,
immediate
cessation
of
harm,
which
first
starts
with
identifying
those
harms
and
then
how
they
connect
back
to
the
recommendations.
D
I
do
also
just
want
to
reiterate
that
and
I
think
this
has
been
stated
before,
but
the
work
of
the
impact
Focus
area
work
groups
are
still
going
to
continue
to
happen
through
out
2023.
D
So
this
audit,
that's
going
to
be
going
on
concurrently,
can
also
help
to
inform
the
work
of
the
ifas
and
to
really
strengthen
the
the
recommendations
that
they're
coming
out
with
and
then
just
really
confirm
those,
and
it
also
provides
an
opportunity
to
immediately
put
resources
back
into
the
Buncombe
County
Community
around
stopping
the
harm
for
for
black
residents
of
Buncombe
County.
J
Thank
you.
That's
helpful,
for
me
at
least
that
phased
approach
helps
me
kind
of
get
my
head
around
this
a
bit
more
and
I
certainly
understand
where
the
commission's
coming
from,
in
the
sense
that,
if,
with
one
hand,
we're
describing
and
looking
at
an
active
disparity
that
we
know
about,
but
we're
not
addressing
a
long-standing
practice
whether
it
originates
in
the
city,
the
county
or
the
courts.
That
is
perpetuating
that
harm
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
move
forward
from
a
basis
not
just
of
trust
but
also
of
efficacy
and
impact
and
I.
J
Think
we
certainly
want
to
be
aware
of
and
understand
if
there's
any
active,
County
or
or
not
just
active,
but
historical,
but
certainly
active.
Also
County
policies
are
practices
that
are
causing
the
very
harm
that
we're
trying
to
address
that.
That
certainly
follows
for
me
and
I
understand
where
that's
coming
from
thanks.
F
One
other
component
is
that
we're
asking
for
timely
reports
and
regular
reports
from
this
process
on
the
data
that
is
found
and
the
reason
one
of
the
reasons
is
not
just
because
we're
not
winning
the
surprise.
At
the
end.
It's
also
the
involvement
of
our
body,
that's
been
appointed
by
the
city
and
county
and
the
communities,
but
also
to
keep
you
all
informed.
One
of
the
difficulties
of
doing
this
work
is
the
emotionally
told
it
takes
on
the
people
who
are
actually
doing
it.
F
It's
this
is
difficult
work,
knowing
that
you
all
as
commissioners
of
the
city
council,
are
consistently
updated
and
and
involved
with
our
step-by-step
evolution
of
this
undone
process,
because
this
is
this
unprecedented
process,
it
really
does
make
a
difference
with
us.
It
really.
It
truly
does
make
a
difference.
I
appreciate
it.
A
Other
questions,
just
one
other
question
I
have
on
this-
is
that.
A
Is
to
the
extent
that
service
we're
talking
about
references
like
ongoing
harm
things
that
can
be
done
right
now,
policy
changes
that
can
be
made
right
now
to
reduce
harm
or
just
harm
and
again,
if
there's
things
that
can
be
done.
A
Of
course,
I
think
we'd
all
want
to
hear
those,
but
in
terms
of
this,
if
a
firm
were
hired
to
pursue
this,
is
it
your
intention
that
it
is
kind
of
this
look
at
the
present
day
like
what's
happening
right
now,
as
opposed
to
let's
look
at
our
history
and
and
kind
of
you
know
which
a
lot
of
their
whole
reparations
process
about
is
kind
of.
Look
is
like
making
this
decision
that
we
are
going
to
look
back
on
our
history
and
understand
where
we've
been
coming
from.
What's
happened,
you
know.
A
All
that
is
is
part
of
our
present
right,
but
it
is
a.
It
is
like
by
its
nature
kind
of
a
reflective
process
right.
So,
but
if
a
firm
were
hard
to
do
this,
do
you
want
them
to
kind
of
engage
in
that
historical
analysis?
Or
is
it
much
more
kind
of
like
a
let's
look
at
what's
happening
right
now?
Not
do
that
important
work
of
looking
at
our
Legacy
look
at
our
past
to
understand
what
it
means
for
where
we
go
forward
now.
F
We
have
not
had
a
single
discussion
on
the
era
of
segregation
or
or
enslavement,
and
I
suspect
that
that's
going
to
come
very
much
at
the
end,
as
people
begin
to
ask.
How
do
we
get
here,
but
first
we're
investigating
here
right
now,
the
present
and
that's
what
we'd
meet
the
firm
for
and.
A
F
A
Right,
that's
right.
The
one
other
question
I
had
was:
is
there
anything
else
you
could
share
with
the
commission
this
afternoon
about
you
know,
that's
been
expressed
that
you've
had
difficulty
getting
data.
Getting
information.
Is
there
anything
else?
Just
I
mean
so
I
think
this
request
is
partly
coming
out
of
that.
But
is
there
anything
else
you
can
tell
us
just
about
difficulty
in
terms
of
getting
information
because
I
think.
A
Obviously
everyone
wants
to
make
sure
you
know
you
can
get
the
information
that
you
need
to
go
through
a
process
to
look
at
the
issues,
make
recommendations.
So
just
anything
else,
you
would
share
with
us
around
how
that's
been
a
challenge
or
any
thoughts
about
what
is
needed
to
make
sure
you
can
get
good
information,
good
facts
to
help.
You
carry
out
your
work.
H
H
Of
course,
the
different
people
to
come
and
speak
so
a
different
Focus
area
groups
and
to
the
full
commission.
We
have
gotten
news
earlier
today
that
we
should
be
having
getting
some
of
the
data
that
we've
been
requesting
later
this
week,
and
so
it's
just
been
slow
and
then
like
in
health.
A
lot
of
the
data
that
they're
requesting
the
historical
data
and
current
data
that
they're
requesting
is
just
not
there.
It
just
wasn't
kept
that
wasn't
it
wasn't
segregated
by
race.
H
We
couldn't
pull
out
the
things
that
they
were
trying
to
pull
out,
and
so
in
some
areas
it's
just
not
there.
It's
just
not
able
to
get
that
type
of
data.
You
know
what
I
mean,
and
so
it's
it's
been
a
lot
of
different
reasons
for
getting
the
data.
H
So
it's
it's
not
just
one
thing.
It's
been
a
couple
of
different
reasons
why
we
haven't
had
data
over
this
these
months
of
requesting
it,
but.
D
I
will
also
say
you
know
to
the
credit
of
the
city
and
county
staff.
They
have
been
really
instrumental
in
setting
up
a
process
for
collecting
that
data
and
really
it's
it's
iterative.
So
it's
submitting
the
data
requests
in
a
formal
manner,
working
with
both
the
city
and
county
strategy
and
data
teams
to
identify
those
specific
requests
and
getting
Clarity
right,
getting
Clarity
on
what
questions
are
being
asked
and
just
really
drilling
down.
So
we
actually
have
a
process
in
place.
D
The
last
time
that
we
updated
the
full
commission
on
the
the
status
of
the
data
was
in
November,
I,
believe
and
I
think
there
are
68
individual
requests
that
were
broken
down
by
IFA
and
over
the
course
of
the
past
30
to
60
days.
They
are
slowly
being
fulfilled,
and
so
it's
just
a
matter
of
closing
that
communication,
Loop
and
just
making
sure
that
those
fulfilled
requests
are
getting
back
to
the
ifas
and
getting
back
to
the
full
commission.
So
there
is
a
process
in
place.
D
It's
not
a
perfect
process,
but
miss
little
is
correct
in
saying
that,
there's
a
lot
of
information
out
there,
that's
being
requested.
That
is
just
not
available
at
the
public
information
level
like
as
a
public
record,
you
know,
and
so
when
the
city
and
the
County
government
have
a
request
for
a
public
record,
that's
not
available!
That
goes
into
a
research
category,
and
then
that
goes
into
the
question
of
okay
who's
going
to
do
this
research.
So
that's
what
we're
dealing
with
now
and.
A
And
does
the
does
the
commission
process
like
have
the
I
appreciate?
You
know
mentioning
the
city
and
county
staff
have
been
working
hard
on
this,
but
are
there
the
resources
there
like
to
just
do
some
of
these
research
pieces
that
you're
talking
about
like?
Do
we
have
the
resources
we
need
to?
Just
you
know,
do
I
mean,
and
we
can't
you
know,
answer
all
questions
that
might
come
up.
F
Just
speaking
from
experience
and
research
in
these
areas,
what
I've
found
is
that
the
public
record
is
limited
and
it
depends
on
which
area
you're.
Looking
at
health
care,
for
example,
we
did
not
keep
accurate
records
by
race
and
by
gender
until
almost
the
Obama,
the
Obama
Administration
is
it.
You
would
find
designations
that
are
pretty
useless
for
now.
You
would
see
non-white
and
white,
for
example,
but
for
other
areas
we're
looking
at
information
that's
held
by
the
state
and
it's
because
it
it
might
be
held
locally.
It
might
not
so
physically.
F
Another
issue
that
that
makes
it
very
difficult
is
that
once
you
get
past
the
initial
questions
and
begin
asking
the
second
level
of
questions
in
an
area
of
Asheville,
Buncombe
County
with
small,
we
start
talking
about
people
indicting
themselves
for
their
own
jobs,
and
that's
that's
an
unreasonable
expectation
for
folk
to
give
information.
That's
almost
incriminating
because
people
had
been
on
the
job
for
a
long
time
and
now
we're
asking
questions
about
the
quality
of
that
job
and
and
and
and
reasons
for
the
continued,
the
disparities
and
outcomes.
F
It's
almost
unfair
asking
people
to
ask
to
to
get
that
information.
So
a
third
party
auditor
is:
why
is
driving
the
the
trust,
Factor
I?
Don't
think
it's
because
we
lack
the
Personnel,
but
at
certain
levels
we
may
lack
the
will.
A
All
right,
I
have
one
last
question
the,
although
I
will
notice
I
sometimes
say
this
is
my
last
question
and
then
I
think
something
else,
but
so
last
question
on
my
mind:
right
now,
the
so
Dr
Mullen
you
mentioned
that
the
commission's
kind
of
starting
with
the
present
and
then
intends
to
sort
of
then
go
backwards
from
there
rather
than
starting.
You
know
deep
in
history
and
working
forward,
I'm
just
curious.
A
The
has
the
commission
so
from
that
I'm
assuming
the
commission
therefore
has
not
spent
on
time
yet
looking
at
the
issues
around
urban
renewal
in
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County,
or
has
that
has
that
been
a
subject
that
has
started
to
be
discussed
and
looked
at
or
if
it
hasn't,
then,
is
that
planned
to
or
just
could
you
give
an
update
on
that
piece
because
I
think
I
think
just
as
we've
all
kind
of
gone
through
this
discussion
around
reparations,
there's
so
many
different
issues
that
emerge
from
that,
but
I
think
one
of
them
that
has
always
been
significant
is
like
you
know.
A
This
is
an
area
where
you
know
local
government
played
a
really
direct
role.
You
know,
and
and
and
so
it's
one
of
those
areas
where
you
know
if
we
can
think
about
hey-
let's
try
to
heal
from
things
that
local
government
has
had
a
really
direct
hand
in
it's,
just
an
area
that
that
has
always
been
of
Interest
I,
know
the
commission
and
the
community.
So
is
it
something
that's
been
discussed
at
this
time,
yeah.
F
F
It's
almost
for
many
people
as
if
this
happened
yesterday,
I'm
talking
about
urban
renewal
and
in
talking
about
urban
renewal,
we
go
deep
into
the
1920s
with
redlining,
and
so
in
a
way
we
are
looking
at
history,
but
also
we're
looking
at
the
current
impact
of
those
urban
renewal
policies
and
what
could
be
possibly
done
about
it
for
Health
Care
it
it
it
it.
It
goes
back.
F
It
starts
industry
and
in
terms
of
current
currency,
we've
had
some
touch
around
the
edges
of
the
era
that
ended
sterilization
and
the
commitment
of
the
local
systems
to
offer
Integrated
Medical
offerings
across
racial
lines
and
that's
fairly
recent.
That's
that's
again
within
living
memory,
the
1970s,
and
so
the
idea
of
not
dealing
with
history
kind
of
depends
on
what
area
we're
looking
at.
But
it
also
in
terms
of
the
accuracy
of
the
data
are
dependent
on
narrative,
as
well
as
calling
narrative,
the
qualitative
and
the
quantitative
aspects
of
it.
F
Urban
renewal
is
one
of
the
more
sensitive
topics
in
the
in.
A
A
Dk
anything
else
from
the
staff.
This
time,
not.
C
Requesting
any
specific
action
today
we'll
bring
forth
the
resolution
to
the
on
the
February
7th
board
for
your
consideration,
and
the
resolution
is
specifically
asking
you
all
to
authorize
staff
to
work
with
the
commission
and
the
city
to
develop
a
scope.
G
You,
let
me
ask
you
something
to
make
sure
I'm
right,
I
keep
hearing,
you
know,
talk
about
finances,
but
now,
let
me
make
sure
I'm
right,
you're
sitting
there
with
a
pot
of
money
for
I,
want
one
million
dollars
right
and
that's
the
most
in
the
six
years
that
I've
been
on
the
commission
folks
is
that
we
have
given
to
any
initiative
and
that's
why
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
people
on
the
reparations
commission
realize
that
we're
talking.
G
We
have
put
our
money
up
up
front
and
we
assure
commissions
to
come.
We
hope
they
will
we'll
continue
what
we've
started,
but
I
hope
everybody
realizes.
We
can't
guarantee
anything
for
future
commissions.
C
Yes,
the
first
immediate
recommendation
was
that
you
all
resolved
to
included
in
the
Baseline
budget
and
also
increase
it
I
think
we
ended
with
a
two
percent
increase
on
an
annual
basis.
So
in
the
County's
budget
we
have
two
million
dollars
currently
with
a
commitment
to
as
long
as
this
body
includes
it
in
the
Baseline
budget
and
an
increase.
So,
yes,
we
intend
to
utilize
the
current
funding
that
we
have
for
any
recommendations
that
come
forward
from
the
commission.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
All
right.
Next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
update
on
the
affordable
parking
for
downtown
workers,
initiative
and
Tim
loves
here
to
help
us
out
with
that
issue.
L
All
right
good
afternoon,
Commissioners
got
a
brief
presentation
this
afternoon,
related
to
the
affordable
parking
program,
meant
to
just
be
a
quick
update,
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
where
we
are
in
the
program
since
we
last
spoke
so
terms
of
our
agenda
today,
quick
background
for
members
of
the
public,
we'll
talk
about
the
program
overview,
current
status
and
the
next
steps,
so
in
terms
of
background
on
November
1st
Commissioners
directed
staff
to
implement
the
affordable
parking
program
at
the
Cox
avenue
deck.
So
just
you
know,
the
county
owns
two
decks.
L
This
is
specifically
focused
on
Cox
avenue.
A
goal
of
that
program
was
to
offer
this
program
to
load
a
moderate
income,
employees
of
downtown
Asheville
businesses
on
December
13th
right
at
the
end
of
the
calendar
year,
the
application
window
opened,
and
so
we
asked
people
to
begin
submitting
applications
into
the
program
to
do
that.
We
leveraged,
of
course,
our
Communications
Department
here
Kate,
but
also
networks
of
folks
that
interact
with
employees
of
downtown
businesses.
L
So
you
know
the
Downtown
Association
Restaurant
Association
folks,
like
that
our
application
window
closed
on
January
13th,
which
is
what
we
always
said
that
the
the
window
would
be
about
three
to
four
weeks
to
let
folks
apply
as
we
get
towards
the
end,
we're
going
to
request
to
extend
that
application
window
just
a
little
bit
further
just
to
go
ahead
and
max
out
the
program,
but
that
was
our
deadline
that
we
had
originally
established
when
we
launched
the
program
created
a
website.
L
That's
on
the
the
County's
web
page
just
a
couple
Snippets
here,
so
you
can
get
a
sense
of
what
it
looked
like
on
the
left.
That's
the
home
page
when
you
land
how
you
can
get
their
banners
QR
codes,
there's
a
QR
code
on
the
right.
As
you
can
see,
and
then
you
know
just
try
to
be
very
simple
in
how
we
presented
this
information,
not
a
whole
lot
of
screens
to
click
through.
But
here
you
can
see
on
the
left
the
eligibility
rules
that
are
available.
L
So
how
are
you
eligible-
and
it's
pretty
simple-
you
know:
do
you
work
in
and
around
downtown
Asheville?
Are
you
at
80,
Ami
or
area
median
income?
Do
you
have
a
valid
driver's
license?
Do
you
have
a
way
to
pay
for
this
electronically
and
then
are
you
above
the
age
of
18.?
So
those
are
the
requirements
pretty
basic
stuff.
Additionally,
we
gave
folks
multiple
options
to
submit
their
applications.
Our
preference,
of
course,
is
to
do
this
online,
so
there's
a
button
there
to
start
your
application.
L
L
Any
questions
on
kind
of
what
this
looks
like
how
you
get
their
eligibility
good
deal
just
to
rehash.
I
know:
we've
talked
about
this,
but
just
so
we're
on
the
same
page.
The
program
overview
no
changes
since
we
spoke
last,
but
just
to
reiterate,
looking
at
reduced
rate
monthly
parking
for
eligible
individuals
to
be
eligible.
We've
kind
of
talked
about
that.
L
You
know
around
downtown
80
Ami,
no
restrictions
on
industry,
so
you
know
it
doesn't
matter
who
you
work
for
you're
eligible
reduced
rate
was
forty
dollars
a
month,
which
was
a
reduction
from
the
85
a
month
that
it
was
prior
to
the
program,
location,
again
Cox
avenue,
and
then
the
lottery
process
was
established
as
having
150
applications
available,
and
so
that's
what
that's
where
we're
at
today,
so
just
to
reiterate
how
we
got
here
so
in
terms
of
where
we
are
current
status,
the
Cox
avenue
program
status,
we've
had
I've
got
some
slightly
revised
numbers
actually
for
you,
since
the
time
that
we
presented
this,
but
we've
had
over
2
000
folks
visit
the
program
website
of
those
a
little
over
237
began
the
process
of
completing
an
application
and
of
which
109
of
those
were
eligible,
and
so
this
is
data.
L
We
just
updated
those
numbers
today,
as
we
got
the
latest
and
we'll
publish
that,
but
that's
in
general,
where
we're
at
so
we've
seen
great
interest
in
the
program.
We've
almost
maxed
out
the
number
of
slots
that
were
initially
made
available,
but
because
we
haven't
fully
maxed
out,
our
recommendation
is
to
continue
to
open
that
window
to
go
ahead
and
max
out
interest
in
the
program,
and
so
that's
what
we'll
proceed
with
moving
forward.
L
L
This
does
two
things
for
us.
We
think
it's
more
Equitable,
but
on
the
back
end,
it
also
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
create
a
wait
list
that
way
we
can
filter
through
folks.
In
case
you
know,
folks
aren't
interested
in
the
spots
or
they
cancel
their
spots
or
we're
unable
to
get
in
touch
with
them.
Any
number
of
reasons.
Thank
you.
L
Great
good
news,
yep
and
you
know
we
will
be
back
to
talk
more
in
the
future,
in
particular
on
our
next
steps.
So
you
know
with
Cox
avenue
we
will
begin
notifying
applicants
very
soon
that
hey
you're
eligible
here
are
the
next
steps.
That
communication
will
all
happen
through
preferred
parking
who's,
ultimately
The
Entity
that
will
be
taking
funding
from
these
applicants,
and
so
we
want
them
to
be
the
direct
point
of
contact,
we'll
reopen
and
advertise
the
remaining
spots.
L
Just
so
everyone
knows
what's
going
on
as
we
move
to
College
Street
a
slightly
different
approach,
and
we've
talked
about
this
all
along
that.
There
was
a
need
to
look
at
College
Street
as
well,
but
that
the
needs
of
college
streets
are
slightly
different,
in
particular
with
the
more
frequent
use
of
the
courthouse
and
just
utilization
in
general.
To
be
honest,
so
what
we're
recommending
doing
is
a
similar
approach
to
to
Cox
avenue
where
we
survey
our
applicants
or
not
our
applicants
but
survey
the
public
to
get
a
sense
of
demand.
L
So
we
know
how
many
spots
there
may
be
interested
in.
We
think
the
demand
may
be
less
because
Cox
is
pretty
centrally
located
compared
to
College
Street.
That
doesn't
mean
there
won't
be
interest
in
College
Street.
We
just
want
to
quantify
it
a
little
bit
so
we'll
do
a
very
brief
survey
figure
out
what
the
demand
is:
analyze
our
utilization
data
and
then
open
up
a
program
very
similar
to
what
we've
done
would
go
ahead
and
signal
that
we
do
Envision
we're
not
going
to
have
the
ability
to
offer
150
spots
that
doesn't
seem
attainable.
L
Can't
speak
to
you
know
definitively
the
number
of
total
employees
versus
how
many
have
a
spot,
but
the
number
of
state
employees
that
do
have
a
spot
is
somewhere
in
the
hundreds
and
I'll
I'll
bring
firm
data
back
I.
Just
don't
have
the
number
in
my
hand
right
now.
Thank.
I
A
Great
any
questions
Commissioners
all
right,
well
great
great
update,
thanks
again
to
all
the
staff
who
worked
on
this
kind
of,
took
this
idea
and
really
brought
an
open
mind
to
it
and
helped
to
kind
of
Bring
It
Forward,
we've
heard
so
much
positive
feedback
from
the
community
on
this,
so
so
I
think
it's
really
appreciated.
It's
encouraging
to
hear
that
it's
going
to
be.
A
You
know,
it
looks
like
looks
like
it'll,
be
really
optimally
utilized
and
I
appreciate
opening
up,
even
even
if
the
college
tree
is
a
much
smaller
and
you
know,
number
initially,
I
think
it's
great
to
have
a
second
site
too,
for
people
who
work
in
different
parts
of
downtown
that
might
that
will
work
better
for
some
folks.
So
so
appreciate
that
and
look
forward
to
you
know
once
we've
had
it
in
place
for
a
while
kind
of
seeing
how
these
new
downtown
worker
parking
you
know.
A
Utilization
affects
the
overall
utilization
and
what
kind
of
future
opportunities
there
might
be
as
we
learn
learn
more
about
how
it
all
syncs
up.
That's
great
cool.
Thank
you
all
right,
thanks,
Tim!
Thank
you
all
right.
We
do
have
a
minute
before
we
need
to
go
to
our
closed
session.
It
is
kind
of
warm
in
here,
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
can
crack
a
window
or
something
the
Jasmine's
super
happy
she's
still
a
little
a
little
five
degrees
hotter
would
be
even
better,
but
it's
very
good.
Okay,
sorry,
Jasmine
you're
out
voted.
A
A
Too
hot,
yes,
all
right!
So
let's
talk
for
a
moment
about
the
we
received
a
request
from
the
county
schools
regarding
they've,
adopted
a
resolution
encouraging
the
legislature
to
give
more
local
control
for
scheduling
the
school
year
calendar
so
and
they
requested
that.
We
consider
that
so
I
just
wanted
to
have
a
brief
discussion
about
that
on
the
commission
and
see
if
that's
of
Interest,
so
just
because
I'll
just
kind
of
open
it
up
for
any
comments
or
questions
on
that.
I
B
I'm
supportive
I
mean
they've
detailed
that
very
clearly
all
the
reasons
that
it's
impacting
them
in
a
in
a
negative
way
with
their
student
learning
and
the
way
it
sets
up
for
the
semester
so
I'm.
Definitely
supportive
of
doing
I.
Guess
they're
asking
us
to
adopt
a
similar
resolution
in
support
of
this.
E
Yeah
I'm
supportive
as
well
I
mean
you
know
from
a
perspective
of
parent,
a
spouse
of
a
school
principal.
The
the
schools
and
our
educational
experts
deserve
the
ability
to
determine
the
best
calendar
for
our
students.
Not
you
know
a
body
of
elected
officials
in
Raleigh,
one
thing
that
also
doesn't
align
and
I
appreciate.
You
know
that
we
are
looking
at
this
through
that
lens
of
the
educational
component,
the
coursework,
but
the
North
Carolina
High,
School,
Athletic
Association
does
not
alter
the
sports
calendar
to
meet
the
late
start
dates.
E
So
our
kids,
who
are
fall,
athletes
and
in
band,
are
already
going
back
in
August,
and
you
know
those
sporting
events
band
events
are
already
starting
before
school
has
ever
started
too
so
I
mean
effectively
where
our
schools
don't
have
that
calendar
flexibility
to
determine
what's
best
for
them,
I
mean
the
tourism
industry
is
what
was
driving
this
so
many
years
ago.
Effectively.
E
G
And
I'm
surprised
we
didn't
get
this
from
both
school
systems,
because
eight
years
I
spent
on
the
City
School
Board.
This
was
always
a
problem.
It
was
a
mess
and
even
from
a
school
board
member
and
a
parent.
When
my
daughter's
young
were
in
school,
it
was
always
a
mess.
The
way
these
calendars
and
really
they
are
more
they're
geared
more
for
eastern
North
Carolina
and
they
are
for
those
of
us
up
here
in
the
hill.
That
was
always
my
complaint,
but
yeah
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
we
need
to
support
them.
H
A
No,
just
just
can
anybody.
It
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
support
for
this.
Is
anybody
aware
of
sort
of
what
that
counter
argument
is
on
this
I
mean
this
is
just
not
a
policy
issue.
I've
I've
spent
much
time
on.
So
what
is
the?
What
just?
What
is
the
first
sake
of
discussion?
What's
the
other
side
of
the
argument
on
this
just
consistency
across
the
state
or
or
what
I'd.
A
Be
there's
a
hundred
counties
and
yeah
kind
of
yeah?
That's
my
guess!
But
I
don't
know
what
everybody
doing
their
own
thing,
everybody
doing
their
own
thing
going,
but
there's
thousands
of
charter,
schools
and
they're
still
all
required
to
have
the
same
number
of
hours
of
classroom
instruction.
It's
just
a
question
of
like
when
exactly
it
occurs.
Right
I
mean
so
they're
still
mandated
by
the
state
to
have
the
same
hours
of
instruction
just
some
flexibility
in
which
the
start
dates
and
end
dates
and
I
guess
some
holidays
and
stuff
like
that.
A
Is
that
right
and
and
if
and
if
we,
if
they
were
granted,
that
is
it
y'all's
understanding
that
they
would
seek
to
have
like
the
first
semester
in
before
Christmas,
as
opposed
to
it
kind
of
spilling
over
to
a
few
days
after
when
everyone's
gone
on
vacation
and
then
then
do
testing.
When
you
get
back
that's
one
of
the
main
reasons
they
want
to
do
this
correct.
A
C
A
Of
the
same
miners
in
terms
of
supporting,
we
could
place
this
on
the
agenda
for
tonight
or
our
next
meeting.
It
could
even
go
on
the
consent
agenda
for
passage
if
it's,
if
it's
clear
that
there's
consensus
on
this,
but
we
would
need
to
format
it
I
mean
they
passed
a
resolution,
but
we
would
need
to
put
it
into
a
format
for
our
own
adoption.
So
maybe
we
should
just
schedule
it
for
our
next
meeting
to
make
sure
we
have
time
to
do.
That.
Is
that
agreeable
to
everyone
right
all
right?
Well,
great!
A
Well,
we'll
do
that
and
we'll
we
can
all
reply
back
to
the
schools
and
just
let
them
know
we
we
plan
to
do
this
and
we
expect
it
to
be
on
the
consent
agenda
at
our
next
meeting,
all
right,
very
good
and,
of
course,
we're
meeting
with
our
legislators
later
this
month.
Right
so
maybe
we
will,
we
will
not
have
a.
We
will
not
have
a
formally
adopted
it
yet,
but
maybe
just
for
the
presentations
we're
preparing
that
day.
A
If
we
could
just
make
sure
this
is
included
on
our
list
with
and
we'll
just
clarify,
we
haven't
voted
on
it
yet,
but
we
did
have
a
discussion
and
it's
clearly
a
consensus
item.
So
we'll
kind
of
assume
it's
going
to
be
part
of
the
legislative
one
of
the
legislative
issues
that
we
support
all
right,
Commissioners
thanks.
We
want
to
have
a
closed
session
to
discuss
a
Personnel
matter.
Mr
free.
Could
you
tell
us
the
authorization
to
do
that?
There's.
K
A
A
All
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
We
will
return
from
closed
session
to
this
room,
to
adjourn
back
into
Open
Session,
or
do
we
need
to
do
that
or
do
I
need
to
do?
We
need
to
actually
adjourn
this
meeting
now,
and
this
is
actually
a
separate
meeting,
or
do
we
need
to
come
back
in
here
to
adjourn
from
the
closed
session.