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B
A
A
At
this
time
we
will
call
to
order
on
our
regular
January
11th
2023
meeting
of
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
adjustment.
Welcome
to
members
of
the
public
who
have
joined
us
and
to
our
applicants
and
staff
moved
to
announcements.
There
are
no
announcements
from
the
board
members
that
I
know
about
so
we'll
move
to
staff
announcements.
First.
A
Thanks
so
much
moving
down
our
list,
we've
got
minutes
on
the
list.
Next.
A
All
right
we'll
move
to
item
D
on
our
agenda
election
of
chair
and
vice
chair.
We
do
this
once
a
year,
we'll
open
the
floor
to
nominations
for
the
position
of
chair.
A
Where
the
member
is
not
present,
of
course,
it
couldn't
be
here
today
and
we
can
nominate
an
Absentia
of
course,
any
other
nominations
from
the
board
hearing
them,
we'll
close
the
nomination
phase
and
we'll
move
to
a
vote,
we'll
start
with
each
candidate
and
count
the
votes
and
of
course
you
can
move
over
one
for
one
candidate
there.
So
we'll
start
with
Greg.
J
A
Okay,
we
have
four.
We
have
two
votes
for
myself:
two
votes
for
Carla;
no,
sorry,
two
votes;
four
one
vote
for
Joel,
one
vote
for
for
Carla.
We
will
move
forward
to
eliminate
the
bottom
two
candidates,
then,
and
then.
M
I
I
A
Have
a
chair
for
the
next
year
on
the
position
of
Vice
chair
are
the
nominations
for
position
of
Vice
chair.
A
A
I
think,
moving
now
to
disclosure
of
expertise,
Communications
or
conflicts
of
interest,
starting
with
Greg
the
board
members
have
any
conflicts
or
conversations
they
want
to
disclose.
C
A
Moving
now
to
welcome
statement,
this
hearing
is
a
quasi-judicial
evidentiary
hearing.
That
means
similar
to
a
court
hearing
state
and
local
law,
set
specific
procedures
and
rules
concerning
how
this
board
must
make
its
decisions.
The
board's
discretion
is
limited.
We
base
our
decision
upon
the
competent,
relevant
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record.
Our
decisions
must
be
constrained
by
the
standards
and
the
zoning
ordinance
and
based
on
the
facts
presented
if
you'll
be
speaking
as
a
witness.
A
Today,
please
focus
on
the
facts
and
standards
and
not
personal
preference
or
opinion
matters
of
personal
knowledge
and
specific
facts
are
acceptable
opinion
and
speculation
regarding
traffic
impact
on
the
community
crime.
Etc
is
not
we
value
a
transparent
process
and
encourage
the
community
to
remain
engaged
and
participate,
but,
given
that
this
is
a
hearing
on
the
record,
there
are
certain
types
and
topics
and
areas
that
limit
the
type
of
testimony
we
can
receive
from
members
of
the
public
without
standing
expert
testimony,
we
look
at
for
certain
topics.
A
The
Board
needs
to
hear
opinion
testimony
from
expert
Witnesses
certified
in
their
fields.
These
topics
include
project
projections
about
impacts
on
property
values
and
projections
about
impacts
of
increased
traffic
stemming
from
the
proposed
project,
individuals
providing
expert
opinion.
Testimony
must
be
qualified
as
experts
and
provide
the
factual
evidence
upon
which
they
base
their
expert
opinion.
As
a
reminder,
Witnesses
should
provide
factual
testimony
as
to
how
the
project
does
or
does
not
meet
the
standards.
The
board
must
base
its
decision
upon
evidence
in
the
record
and
not
personal
opinion
or
personal
preference.
A
F
Yeah,
that's
I
think
it's
the
jazaka
variants,
but
I
could
be
wrong
too.
So
I'm,
Haley,
madfis
and
I
certified
that
this
public
hearing
was
properly
noticed
and
all
applicable
parties
were
notified
of
the
meeting
in
accordance
with
General
statutes
in
county
code.
F
D
F
You
very
much
thank
you,
I
ask
that
all
applicant
and
staff
materials
be
accepted
into
the
record
as
evidence.
F
F
The
applicant
is
Alex
Wunderlich
owner
of
304
Magnolia
Ridge
Road,
which
is
the
property
located
across
the
jazaka
property
right
here
right
here
and
yeah,
and
the
owners
of
the
jazaka
property
are
Donald,
A,
Banks
and
Mary
Ann
Bryant
Banks.
The
property
is
located
at
10,
jazaka,
Ridge
Lane
and
the
total
acreage
is
0.709
Acres.
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
this
property
is
served
by
private
private
septic
system.
F
The
property
is
zoned
rld
with
no
overlays
present,
and
this
variance
is
being
sought
to
allow
for
a
recombination
of
the
one
of
the
0.106
acre
sliver
of
property
right
here
to
be
recombined
with
these
five
properties
right
here,
like
separately,
and
so
in
order
to
do
this,
the
applicants
are
requesting
a
variance
for
the
lot
size,
the
minimum
lot
size
and
the
rld
is
a
one
acre
which
is
46
560
square
feet.
F
And
then
this
isn't
a
condition,
but
just
to
clarify
that
this
variance
is
to
allow
a
recombination
to
occur.
And
it
is
not
the
intention
to
allow
for
a
subdivision
of
land.
D
N
A
N
A
And
just
to
be
clear,
you're
a
neighbor,
but
you
do
your,
does
your
property
yet,
but
that
other
property.
N
L
Can
I
get
a
confirmation
from
staff,
Haley
I
think
you
said
in
your
presentation.
This
is
just
for
a
recombination,
no
approval
for
any
kind
of
development
of
a
basically
a
leftover
policy.
F
Where
we
are
right
now
with
the
variants
it's
just
to
allow
for
a
Recon
Recon
forward,
yep
there's
no!
As
far
as
we're
aware
development.
O
C
A
Anything
else
would
you
like
to
say
before
we
vote
on
standing
and
if
we
don't
approve
standing
for
any
applicant
today,
that
has
applied
for
standing
of
course
feel
free
to
stick
around
during
the
hearing
and
we'll
we'll
ask
the
board
if
they
want
to
open
up
for
witness
discussion
or
contributions
at
that
time.
A
And
a
vote
on
standing
for
Mrs
Niels
start
with
Greg;
no,
yes,
no,
no!
Okay!
That
does
not
passed
there.
So
this
is
not
grandstanding
but
is
invited
to
stay
for
the
first
hearing
for
as
a
witness
if
the
board
opens
up
for
that
process,
any
other
applications
for
standing
on
this
on
this
variance.
A
D
P
Land,
it
is
grass
to
cut
just
a
little
bit
of
land
for
kids
to
run
on
the
land
will
not
be
developed.
It
can't
be
developed.
A
part
of
that
land
is
already
within
a
40-foot
right
away.
Basically,
the
homeowners
they'd
have
to
cross
the
road
into
what
appears
to
already
be
our
backyard
to
even
maintain
the
grass.
So
we
already
cut
the
grass
me
and
my
next
door
neighbors
and,
like
I
said
it
can't
be
developed
so
to
answer
the
storm
water
question.
P
If
the
land
will
literally
not
be
developed,
then
it
will
not
change
from
what
the
current
state
is.
We
will
not
have
bulldozers.
We
will
not
dig
holes
for
fire
pits
stuff
like
that.
It
is
strictly
to
take
that
bit
of
land,
that's
already
in
our
backyard,
that
we
already
walk
on
and
just
to
own
that
mid-atland,
and
so
this
is
currently
I've
been
in
this
house
for
two
years
that
tinjazaka
lane
has
had
three
different
owners.
P
All
three
have
tried
to
sell
me
that
land
and
in
this
Mary
and
Don
are
the
current
ones
that
that
important.
This
bearings
for.
A
A
You,
the
board's,
invited
to
be
to
deliberate
the
case
and
and
feel
free
to
ask
staff
any
questions
they
have.
A
And
for
all
variances
today
we
do
need
a
four-fifths
vote
amongst
board
members
to
approve
I'm.
Sorry
unanimous
today,
five
out
of
five,
so
we
reduce
membership
today,.
A
A
A
There
has
been
approval
motion
and
a
second
as
well
I,
believe
hearing
those
we'll
start
with
Greg
and
vote.
K
A
A
A
We'll
continue
in
the
tradition
that
we
had
going
last
year,
where
we
take
a
five
or
ten
minute
recess
and
review
a
draft
order.
Q
P
A
E
So
I
have
a
proposed
Mr,
Mr
chair
and
the
rest
of
the
board.
Members
I
have
a
proposed
order
for
you
that
I
would
need
a
motion
for
you
all
to
say
that
you
adopted,
but
basically
the
motion
lists
the
findings
of
fact
that
an
unnecessary
hardship
would
result
from
a
strict
application
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
E
E
There
are
no
conditions
to
this
variance,
so
those
are
your
foregoing.
Those
are
your
findings
of
fact
and
then,
based
on
the
finding
a
fact.
This
application
satisfies
the
requirements
for
granting
a
zoning
variance
pursuant
to
the
Buncombe
County
zoning
ordinance
laughs
and
that
therefore,
based
on
the
foregoing
findings
of
fact,
this
application
shall
be
granted
and
they'll
be
signed
by
the
chair.
A
Briefly,
reviewed
the
order
with
the
attorney
their
questions
from
the
board
or
motion.
I
A
G
It
won't
open
we'll
just
have
to
a
difference.
D
G
G
So
this
is
the
Miramar
variance
and
I
certify
that
this
public
hearing
was
properly
noticed
in
all
applicable
parties
were
notified
of
the
meeting
in
accordance
with
General
statutes
and
county
code.
I
asked
that
all
applicant
and
staff
materials
be
accepted
into
the
record
as
evidence.
G
2022-00041
Miramar
variants,
the
applicant
is
Alex
ward
of
piska
surveying
and
the
owners
are
Michael
Murphy
of
mcbrokers
LLC
and
Stephen
and
Patricia
Shackleton.
The
properties
are
located
at
three
and
four
Miramar
drive
and
are
approximately
0.46
total
Acres
they're
served
by
private
septic
systems,
they're
zoned
R3
with
no
overlays
present,
and
the
variance
is
requesting
for
each
of
the
two
properties
it's
to
address.
Several
non-conforming
setbacks
on
those
each
of
those
two
and
the
current
property
lines
are
cutting
through
the
existing
buildings.
A
Any
sending
applications
on
this
variants
no.
J
A
D
R
I
believe
it's
been
pretty
well
covered
by
Ms
cap
Sally,
the
intent
of
a
little
bit
more
sorry.
The
intent
of
this
recombination
of
existing
Parcels
is
to
remedy
a
situation
of
encroaching
structures
and
to
reconfigure
the
property
lines
so
that
those
structures
would
not
be
encroaching
on
neighboring
Lots.
R
R
The
current
configuration
I
believe
should
additionally
fit
within
the
building
setback
requirements
for
our
three
zoning.
The
variants
that
we're
asking
for
is
to
allow
for
smaller
square
footage
of
these
Lots
compared
to
what
is
allowed
for
lots
and
R3
zoning
with
served
by
septic
systems.
A
R
On
the
subject
property,
what's
shown
as
Lot
2
and
lot
three
just
below
the
two
mobile
homes
on
those
slots,
thank
you.
S
C
C
I'll
read
it
Mr
chair,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
to
this
board,
including
the
following:
exhibits:
the
petitioner's
application,
the
submitted
site
plan,
the
gis
map
staff
report
Justified,
were
presented
at
the
hearing.
I
moved
the
board
to
adopt
the
finding
as
a
fact
that
this
matter
was
properly
advertised
and
written
or
within
the
board's.
C
Jurisdiction
is
ripe
for
its
consideration
and
that
the
application,
together
with
the
conditions
proposed
by
the
staff
under
the
board
and
agreed
to
the
application,
meets
the
requirements
of
granted
a
variance
containing
a
welcome
county
code
of
ordinance,
section
78-6214,
there's.
Q
L
Mr,
chair
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
this
request,
based
on
the
foregoing
findings
of
fact,
and
for
the
reasons
set
forth
therein.
I
move
that
the
requested
variance
be
approved
and
that
staff
be
instructed
to
draft
an
order
consistent
with
this
motion
approving
the
permit
and
with
any
agreed
upon
conditions
for
review
and
execution
by
the
chair
or
such
person's
designee,
and
on
behalf
of
this
board.
There's.
Q
J
A
Does
pass
variance
passes?
Do
we
need
a
brief
recess,
or
can
we
go
ahead
with
a
an
order
discussion.
E
We
can
go
ahead
with
an
order
if
you
are
yeah
ready
to
go.
Let
me
just
is
that.
E
All
right,
I'm
up
and
running
all
right,
so
the
findings
of
fact
are
adopted
as
written
based
on
the
motion.
We
also
that,
based
on
the
that
applicants
and
we're
giving
an
opportunity
to
offer
oral
testimony
that
the
unnecessary
hardship
would
result
in
would
result
from
a
strict
application
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
E
A
Q
J
G
So
this
is
the
Terra
Drive
Specialties
permit
and
I
certify
that
this
public
hearing
was
properly
noticed
and
all
applicable
parties
were
notified
of
the
meeting
in
accordance
with
General
statutes
and
county
code.
I.
Ask
that
the
applicant
and
staff
materials
be
accepted
into
the
record
as
evidence.
G
This
is
the
review
of
zph
2022-00032.
The
Terra
Drive
special
use
permit.
The
applicant
owner
is
Oleg
courtagan
I
hope
that
I
don't
mispronounce,
that
of
Hyder
LLC.
The
property
is
located
at
an
unaddressed,
parcel
off
of
Terra
Drive
and
is
approximately
2.09
Acres.
The
development
is
to
be
served
by
Asheville,
public
water
and
private
septic
systems.
G
G
M
M
We've
got,
we
propose
parking
off
the
road
and
there's
20.
Well,
there's
20
parking
spaces
with
two
ADA
Compliant
there's
also
open
space
planned
and
proposed,
and
just
a
it's
a
basic
10
town
home
residential
that
meets
the
neighborhood.
M
A
C
I'll
make
a
motion
to
adopt
foundings
of
fact,
Mr
chair,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
to
this
board,
including
the
following,
exhibits:
the
petitioner's
application,
the
submitted
development
plan,
the
GIS
maps,
the
staff
report
testimonial
presented
hearing
I
moved
the
board
to
adopt
the
following
findings.
C
The
fact
that
this
matter
was
properly
advertised
and
is
within
the
board's
jurisdiction
is
right
for
its
consideration
and
that
this
applicant
application,
together
with
the
conditions
proposed
by
staff
or
the
board
agreed
to
by
the
applicant,
if
any,
meets
the
requirements
of
granting
a
special
use
permit
contained
in
the
booking
County
of
ordinances.
Section
78-621-3,.
A
L
Mr,
chair
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
this
special
use,
permit,
based
on
the
foregoing
finding
of
the
facts
and
for
the
reasons
set
forth
therein.
I
moved
to
requested
special
use
permit
be
approved
and
that
the
order
approving
the
permit
be
adopted
and
executed
as
presented
and
is
modified
in
this
meeting.
C
E
So
we
have
based
on
the
findings
of
fact,
that
we're
set
forth
in
your
motion
for
a
10
unit,
townhome
development
on
aforementioned
parcel
that
the
applicant
and
other
parties
were
standing
were
given
an
opportunity
to
participate
and
that,
based
on
the
zoning
ordinance,
the
board
finds
as
follows.
First
thing
that
this,
the
Pud
standards
will
be
met
or
will
be
that
the
land
will
be
with
under
a
single
ownership
or
management
by
the
applicant
before
final
approval.
E
The
land
uses
are
compatible
and
do
not
violate
the
intent
of
the
zoning
District.
The
proposed
land
use
meets
the
minimum
requirements
for
Land
Development
as
follows.
The
minimum
lot
size
requirements
for
interior
setbacks
do
preserve
the
spirit
intent
of
this
section
and
complies
with
the
density
requirements
in
the
zoning
District.
E
The
board
finds
that
the
building
envelopes
are
shown
in
the
submitted
plans
depicted
the
maximum
expanse
of
the
proposed
footprint
of
the
structure,
so
that,
pursuant
to
so
those
are
all
the
findings
that
you've
made
pursuant
to
Buncombe
County
ordinance,
78,
677
G,
the
font,
satisfactory
provision
and
arraignment
have
been
made
for
at
least
the
following.
The
propos
use
will
not
affect
the
health
and
safety
of
persons
residing
or
working
in.
The
neighborhood
of
the
proposed
use.
E
The
proposed
use
will
not
be
a
detriment
to
the
public,
welfare
or
injuries
to
property
or
public
improvements
in
the
neighborhood
that
the
proposed
use
will
not
cause
or
have
an
adverse
effect
on
the
surrounding
properties.
Due
to
noise,
vibration,
odor
or
glare
effects,
satisfactory,
Ingress
or
Ingress
for
the
proposed
use
for
the
proposed
property
and
proposed
structures
has
been
provided.
E
With
reference
to
the
type
location
and
dimensions
have
been
arranged
for
signs
if
any
and
proposed
exterior
lighting
with
reference
to
glare
traffic,
safety
and
economic
effect
and
compatibility
are
in
harmony
with
the
properties
in
the
district,
playgrounds,
Open,
Spaces,
Landscaping
access
ways
and
pedestrian
ways
with
reference
have
been
arranged
for
the
building
structures
are
with
reference.
Size
use
are
acceptable.
E
Yeah
turn
I
gotta
turn
that
off
I
apologize,
the
following
conditions
are
necessary
to
these
are
the
conditions
that
staff
gave
you
I'm
not
going
to
re-go
them,
but
these
are
all
the
the
conditions
that
staff
has
has
made
for
this
all
right.
So,
based
on
the
following
foregoings
of
fact,
the
application
meets
the
applicable
requirements
of
the
Buncombe
County
zoning
ordinance
and
based
on
the
conclusions
of
the
law,
he
passed
the
order
that
the
applicant
is
hereby
granted
a
special
use
permit
and
that
that
is
all
I'm.
Sorry
that
is
so
long.
Q
A
A
And
now
we
will
Shuffle
around
and
get
ready
for
our
stormwater
variants,
which
we
haven't
seen
in
a
while.
Zph
2022.00039,
Old,
Charlotte,
Duran
storm
water
variants
and
we'll
invite
the
applicant
to
approach
the
Deus
and
introduce
themselves
to
swear
in.
A
Yeah
yeah:
that's
right!
No
yeah
we'll
invite
staff
to
present
this
case.
T
I
D
D
U
D
U
U
I'm
not
sure
how
much
background
should
I
provide
about
the
whole
project
or
I
am
just
talking
about.
The
variance
aspect
of
this
correct
is
the
Project's
coming
next
okay.
So
this
is
a
proposed
project
which
you
will
hear
subsequent
to
this
variance
the
at
the
I
will
I
guess,
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
nature
of
the
variance
and
then
lets
you
all
kind
of.
U
Tell
me
what
I
need
to
do
next
to
get
you
what
you
need,
so
the
variance
is
with
respects
to
the
provision
in
our
stormwater
ordinance
that
requires
that
natural
drainage,
stormwater
runoff
not
be
directed
from
one,
not
natural
drainage
basin
to
another,
and
so
we
have
here
a
topographic
contour
map
overlaid
over
the
aerial
imagery
of
the
location
of
the
site
that
drainage
sector
2,
currently
drains
to
the
I'm.
U
Not
sure
if
this
is
North
is
up,
I
think
it's
to
the
West
I
think
it
is
in
fact
North
up
towards
this
already
developed
area
that
you
see
here,
and
this
proposed
project
would
like
to
redirect
that
runoff
interior
to
their
site
and
then
towards
the
discharge
point
that
is
further
down
in
this
location
in
the
south.
U
A
What
direction
on
this
map
we'll
be
receiving
the
runoff
with
our
parcel.
U
Here
on
the
West,
it
would
then
go
towards
the
east
into
the
this
existing
natural
Channel
stream,
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
which
channels
are
jurisdictional
streams
on
this
property.
X
I
haven't
done
the
in-depth
review
but
they're,
showing
some
sort
of
streamline
here
and
I
know,
there's
a
stream
here,
and
then
that
goes
underneath
the
Culvert
under
this
property
onto
an
which
is
developed
onto
an
undeveloped
property
underneath
the
public
road
and
then
into
the
stream,
the
actual
big
stream
that
takes
all
the
runoff
away.
U
K
K
Yeah
Cassius
Creek
about
drainage
in
the
Cassius
Creek
is
there
been
anything
as
far
as
any
kind
of
possible
environmental
impacts.
U
Of
which
direction
it
goes
if
it
goes
through
this,
this
existing
development
and
into
gaseous
Creek
down.
It's
really
a
question
of:
should
the
runoff
go
where
the
ordinance
says
it
should
go,
but
there
may
be
Downstream
stormwater
issues
over
here
into
gaseous
Creek,
or
should
it
go
where
they
would?
The
applicant
would
prefer
it
to
go
over
here
through
this
developed
area
into
gaseous
Creek
But.
Ultimately,
it's
getting
to
gaseous
Creek
one
either
way.
K
The
only
reason
why
Brent
I
bring
it
up
because
I
know
Cassius
Creek
has
been
mentioned.
As
you
know,
something
that
needs
some
kind
of
remediation
already
from
pollution.
A
B
Back
good
afternoon
staff
board
members
and
members
of
the
public
just
a
couple
things
on
this
and
it's
a
little
bit
out
of
order,
because
this
is
obviously
related
to
the
the
underlying
project
which
we'll
get
to.
We
are
with
the
stormwater
variants,
actually
trying
to
address
an
issue.
That's
out
there
and
a
couple
of
big
points
on
stormwater
one.
This
project,
like
any
other
project,
can't
increase
the
amount
of
runoff
on
as
a
whole
off
the
project.
B
In
any
event,
it's
got
to
be
treated,
and
so,
at
the
end
of
this
project
you
will
have
the
same
or
less
storm
water
and
the
storm
water
will
be
treated
so
Mr
mozillas's
Question.
There
will
not
be
any
increase
in
any
kind
of
store
water
coming
off
of
this,
because
that's
not
what
what
the
law
allows
here.
What
we're
simply
doing
is
defining
a
Sub
sub
Basin
and
moving
that
Sub
sub
Basin
to
empty
onto
a
different
property,
to
alleviate
some
of
the
pressures
that
are
there
right
now.
B
It's
interesting
because,
if
you
back
out
to
the
actual
base
in
itself,
we
think
that
we're
not
having
any
kind
of
storm
water
variant,
so
it
really
depends
on
how
high
up
you
are
looking
at
it
as
to
whether
or
not
there's
a
variance.
We
had
the
discussion
with
staff
and
added
abundance
of
caution.
We
thought
that
we'd
proceed
this
way
and
address
it
in
that
manner.
I've
got
Warren
Sugg.
Who
is
our
engineer
and
expert
in
this
area?
Warren?
B
V
V
V
V
Yeah,
so
this
this
goes
in
a
little
bit
of
the
next
next
hearing
as
well,
but
anytime
we're
doing
a
design.
We're
we're
looking
at
the
surrounding
properties
to
understand
what
kind
of
conditions
they're
in
just
kind
of
visually
visually
see
what's
happening
in
the
case
of
this,
as
I
was
going
through,
Eastwood
development
there's
clearly
things
that
are
happening
with
their
pavement
with
their
drainage.
V
You
can
see
it
with
several
of
the
just
Google
Images,
even
if
you
didn't
go
to
the
site,
so
there's
a
lot
of
on-site,
drainage
and
I'm
sure
many
of
them
will
later
on.
Tell
you
tell
you
about
that.
So
part
of
our
sort
of
code,
AS
Engineers,
is
to
try
to
look
out
for
the
Health
and
Welfare
of
the
public
with
our
designs.
This
is
a
known
issue,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
where
we
can
capture
this
storm
water.
V
That's
going
to
be
happening
either
way,
and
we
can
put
it
into
a
system
that
we
have
in
control
that
we
can
design
to
make
sure
that
it
it
meets
the
County's
codes
for
pre-post
drawdown
that
it
can
do
it
in
a
a
way.
In
which
it's
non-erosive,
it's
not
high
velocities
and
just
basically
treated
both
for
quality
and
quantity
in
a
in
a
very
meaningful
way,
which
otherwise
may
not
be
happening,
and
if
was
left
the
way
it
is,
it
would
just
continue
to
dump
onto
Eastwood
Village
after
after
treatment.
B
Mr,
one
of
the
things
that
we
show
inside
this
variance
is
that
the
hardship
is
something
that's
existing
out
there.
That's
not
related
to
the
proposed
development.
Can
you
speak
to
to
that
and
the
existing
conditions
in
terms
of
any
Master
planning
on
stormwater
of
the
adjacent
Eastwood
project.
V
Yeah,
so
the
the
sector,
two,
the
eight
Acres.
That's
part
of
that
variance
that
eight
acres
is
coming
onto
Eastwood
Village
today
irregardless
of
this
project,
whether
it
happens
or
doesn't
happen
in
and
irregardless
of,
the
variance.
As
mentioned
earlier,
just
visual
inspection
out
there,
with
some
of
the
drainage
patterns,
looks
like
there's
a
curb
line
behind
or
a
drainage,
ditch
behind
a
curb
line.
That's
running
north
south.
V
I,
don't
have
all
the
ins
and
outs
of
previous
designs
that
have
happened
with
Eastwood
Village,
but
I
I
assume
that
they
had
to
go
through
all
County
reviews
and
then
one
other
factors.
It
seems
like
there's
a
good
bit
of
this
that
does
flow
to
several
of
the
single-family
homes
that
are
already
built
there
and
just
really
wouldn't
like
to
send
more
storm
water
towards
those
single-family
homes.
B
Is
it
clear
to
you
that
ultimate
drainage
point
for
for
this,
regardless
of
whether
it
goes
to
the
left
or
to
the
right,
is
gaseous
Greek.
V
Yeah,
it
all
goes
to
gaseous
Creek.
When
you
look
on
County
websites,
FEMA
Maps
anywhere,
you
look
you're
going
to
understand
that
that's
where
it's
all
ultimately
going
to.
So
it's
all
generally
flowing
north
to
south,
and
there
are
you
know,
you
call
them
sub
drainage
areas
that
that
divert
it
for
a
moment.
But
it's
all
going
to
gaseous
Creek,
which
is
running
generally
parallel
with
us-74a.
B
Notwithstanding
anything
in
the
ordinance
and
not
because
of
the
ordinance,
but
in
your
expert
opinion,
do
you
believe
this
is
the
the
best
practices
for
stormwater
management
for
this
project
I
do
and
for
the
neighboring
project
I?
Do
we
would
tender
this
matter
back
to
the
to
the
board?
Thank.
A
You
discussion
or
questions
for
the
applicant
this
time.
D
Foreign,
so
this
is
a
little
bit
of
an
interesting
case,
because,
yes,
this
project
has
three
standing.
Applications
and
I
have
one
witness
application
who
would
like
to
testify
as
an
expert
witness.
Some
of
these
applications
specifically
mentioned
this
variance
as
well.
Some
do
not
some
mention
both,
which
has
a
package
deal.
So,
however,
we
would
like
to
proceed
with
going
through
standing
applications.
A
D
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
go
down
the
list
of
this
order
that
receive
the
standing
applications
and,
if
you'd
like
to
speak
specifically
on
this
stormwater
variance
case,
please
let
me
know,
but
we're
going
to
go
in
order.
So
the
first
that
I
have
is
Mr
Roy,
giesen,
schwack,
okay,
the
past.
We
will
come
back
to
you
during
the
other
portion.
A
J
A
This
is
a
standing
request,
so
Mr
Harrison,
if
you'll
review
your
grants
for
standing.
J
J
Charlotte
Highway
I
drive,
74a
Old,
Charlotte,
Highway
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
have
an
interest
in
this
project.
I
did
in
the
limited
amount
of
time,
I
had
to
provide
comments.
I
did
comment
on
this,
and
I
did
object
to
the
variance
request
after
reading
the
documents
and
looking
at
it,
I
have
would
draw
that
with
regard
to
diverting
drainage
from
sector
2
to
sector,
3.
J
B
It's
not
to
interrupt
the
witness,
but
we
were
doing
standing.
We.
B
Thing
I'll
do
some
damage,
is
I'd
like
to
point
out
something
and
offer
something
up
to
the
witness
in
a
standing
application.
He
states
that
actually,
he
checks
the
box
that
he
doesn't
have
standing.
I
have
no
objection
to
him,
participating
as
a
witness
I'd
love
to
hear
what
he
has
to
say
about
this
project
and
invite
him
to
participate
as
a
witness,
but
is
on
the
face
of
a
standing
application.
He
is
indicating
that
he's
he's
asking
to
be
a
witness
and
not
a
party
with
standing.
A
E
Standing
is
basically
where
you
have
a
particular
individualized
damage
that
can
potentially
happen
from
the
approval
of
such
permit.
It
has
to
be
specific.
In
particular,
it
can't
just
be
oh
there's
more
going
to
be
more
traffic
in
my
neighborhood,
or
there
has
to
be
something
that's
going
to
affect
you
individually.
You
in
your
application
did
check
the
box.
That
said,
I
will
not
suffer
special
damages.
However,
I
would
like
the
opportunity
or
that's.
A
J
A
Well,
no
because
the
party
was
standing
would
be
approved
by
the
board
and
then
would
be
able
to
participate
in
the
hearing
as
a
member
at
a
party
to
the
to
the
case.
So
we
could
cross-examine
et
cetera,
back
and
forth
in
an
issue
on
evidence
Etc,
whereas
a
witness
would
would
if
the
board
opens
to
witness
witness
testimony,
get
an
opportunity
to
address
the
board
on
the
issue
with
the
same
thoughts
that
you're
relaying
now
sounds
like,
but
the
witness
would
be
a
public
comment,
type
of
period
right.
B
J
B
Ball
in
in
into
the
witness,
we
would
allow
you
to
to
cross-examine
and
ask
questions
as
a
witness
without
standing,
just
like
any
other
witness
and
that's
that's
tip
what
we
typically
do.
Typically
in
this
situation,.
I
A
Fine,
if
you
want
to
withdraw
that
one,
that's
fine
and
we
can.
We
can
move
to
the
next
applicant
for
standing
and
then
invites
later
on
in
the
hearing
once
the
applicants
presented
their
case
and
everything
to
if
the
board
was
to
open
up
for
Witnesses
they'll
do
that?
Okay.
A
Thank
you
in
that
withdrawn.
Moving
to
the
next
potential
standing
applicant,
those.
A
Else
want
to
submit
themselves
to
standing
up
for
standing
approval
today,
not
a
witness
but
a
standing
participant.
B
We'll
close
the
the
affirmative
part
of
our
presentation
or
reserve
the
balance
of
our
presentation
for
any
rebuttal,
that's
needed
and
we
would
open
our
our
expert,
Mr
sug
up
to
any
questions.
At
this
point.
A
I'm
overthinking
about
those
questions
does
do
we
have
from
staff
determination
on
gaseous
Creek's
status
as
a
impaired,
Waterway
or
not.
At
this
point,.
D
W
We're
still
checking
with
the
ncdeq
website,
however,
I
must
mention
that
that
may
not
be
relevant
to
the
variance
request
itself.
We
can
offer
it
as
additional
information
if
we
find
it,
but
I
think
the
variance
request
is
about
the
drainage
of
the
Basin.
However,
we
may
be
on
to
something
or
give
us
just
a
couple
moments
to
look
a
little
deeper.
A
Yeah
still
open
for
board
discussion
this
time
for
more
questions
for
the
for
the
applicant.
U
I'm
I'm
not
showing
Dash's
Creek
as
being
in
on
the
impaired
Waters
list.
As
of
the
2020
integrated
report
cycle,
Within
cdeq,
there
are
plenty
of
other
waterways
that
are,
but
that
one
is
not
listed.
Okay,
at
least
as
far
as
I
can
tell
I.
Guess:
I
should
qualify
that
with
the
the
digging
that
I
was
able
to
do
yeah.
U
Do
not
have
that
mapped
I
searched
in
the
they
have
a
file
that
has
all
the
Creeks
listed,
but
it's
not
mapped
and
I
searched
for
gash
and
gashes
in
that
file,
and
it
wasn't
listed
in
there,
which
I
mean
proving
a
negative
can
be
a
bit
challenging
sometimes
but
I
I
do
not
believe
that
gaseous
Creek
is
listed
or
proposed
to
be
listed.
Based
on
the
information.
I
was
able
to
find
on
ncdeq's
website,
which
specifically
was
the
2022
active
listing
impaired,
listings
their
report
and
then
the
map
from
2020.
A
A
Been
given
that's
what
we
did
I
think
so
yeah,
so
we'll
open
up
to
to
witness
testimony
we'll
ask
that
Azure
Azure
called
up
to
keep
it
as
brief
as
you
can
we're
not
going
to
put
a
time
limit,
but
generally
two
three
minutes
is
fine
to
address
your
concerns
about
about
anything
you've
seen
here
or
online.
We
will
ask
for
a
show
of
hands
on
witness
testimony,
we'll
ask
Mr
Harrison
to
come
up.
First
I
believe
he
was
up
before.
J
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
board,
as
I
stated
previously,
I
have
no
objection
to
section
three
going
and
there's
section
two
going
into
section
three
I
think
that's
a
prudent
thing
to
do
from
an
engineering
standpoint,
but
I
do
want
to
speak
very
briefly,
knowing
that
this
will
end
up
in
gaseous
Creek.
J
J
J
Storm
drain
system
up
in
Barrington
Village,
which
is
supposed
to
retain
their
drainage.
You
know:
overflugged
came
down
washed
out
our
Entry
Road
washed
out
our
covered.
We
had
no
emergency
access
for
10
days
and
gaseous
Creek
was
a
Rushing
River
that
was
in
2015.,
so
I.
Imagine
that's
going
to
happen
again,
given
the
nature
of
the
weather
patterns
that
we
have
now
watching
the
news
of
California.
J
A
M
D
E
X
Excuse
me
worked
with
the
city
of
Asheville
for
about
14
years,
like
six
of
that
is
Chief
city
planner,
then
I
started
my
own
Farm
doing
ordinances
and
plans
for
public
sector
clients
and
site
planning
and
entitlement
for
private
sector
clients.
One
of
my
projects,
the
city,
received
a
Jamestown
North
Carolina,
received
an
outstanding
planning
award
from
the
North
Carolina
Association
of
planners
for
implementation
for
their
zoning
ordinance.
X
We
prepared
I
ended
my
career
as
a
executive
director
of
Knoxville
Knox
County
Planning
supervising
40
staff
members
involved
in
the
Lane
use,
planning
and
Transportation
Planning
in
that
county
and
Kurt
may
be
May
appreciate
this.
It
was
a
semi-independent
agency,
so
I
didn't
have
to
answer
to
her
City
plan,
our
city
manager
or
County
manager,
and
my
presentation
on
this
part
will
be
relatively
brief.
X
As
I
said,
the
parents
request
is
appreciated.
Yeah
Eastwood
Village
has
suffered
drainage
problems
as
as
a
referenced
by
Mr
Sugg.
We
we'd
like
more
information
on
this.
If
you
notice,
when
you
ask
the
staff
there
were
a
number
of
I,
don't
know
responses.
Also
in
the
staff
report
there
was
a
statement
regarding
the
lack
of
information
to
fully
evaluate
the
variance
request.
We
would
just
like
to
see
the
board
to
table
or
continue
this
request
until
additional
information
is
provided.
X
Looking
at
what's
on
the
screen,
you
can
see
the
variation
in
rain
over
the
past
four
year.
Five
years,
excuse
me
from
over
almost
70
inches
a
year
to
2022
when
there
was
a
about
50
inches,
less
a
20
inch
variance
and
the
climate
change
will
result
in
intense,
more
intensive
rain
events,
and
just
like
that,
additional
information
to
be
provided
so
that
the
requests
can
be
fully
vetted,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Was
there
there's
something
specific
that
you
had
an
outstanding
question
about
that
wasn't
answered
during
the
hearing
or
in
the
documents
online
just
the
case,
some.
X
Information
regarding
the
flow
rates
from
the
development,
how
much
would
go
into
the
drainage
space
and
would
be
transferred
and
what
the
fluid
of
that
Basin
would
be.
Before
and
after
the
the
development.
C
Is
for
Victoria
I'd
have
a
comment
for
Victoria,
so
Victoria,
obviously
we're
you
know
going
to
say
yes
or
no
to
the
basins
right
now.
They
still
has
to
go
through
your
full
review
after
we
give
the
okay
for
this
correct.
So
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done.
It.
U
I'm
not
entirely
sure
how
to
answer
that,
because
there
may
be
solutions
that
they
could
Implement.
That
would
or
would
not
require
the
variants
to
come
to
me.
But,
yes,
the
the
results
of
the
variants
will
impact
my
review
when
it
comes
to
me
and
there's
a
lot
more
engineering
work
to
be
done
to
get
it.
C
A
T
T
Mine
is
just
a
question,
I
believe
related
to
the
previous
testimony
please.
So
this
is
for
Warren
Zug
in
terms
of
the
land
survey.
T
What
I'm
curious
about
what
information
was
gathered
about
the
level
of
the
water
table
and
the
variation
in
the
water
table
over
time,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
the
runoff
and
flooding
issues
we've
had
in
Eastwood,
Villages
related
to
seepage
and
overflow
from
Springs
and
stuff
related
to
the
water
table,
I'm
just
curious
about
what
information
there
may
be
related
to
that
I,
don't
know
if
it
can
be.
This
sort
of
question
answered.
A
B
Know
sure
thank
you
and
in
fact,
we'll
just
start
in
reverse
order,
or
if
you
want
to
address
that
that
last
question
from
Mr
barley,
that
would
be
great
yeah.
V
So
there
is
a
field
run
survey,
that's
topography,
picks
up
streams,
Wetlands
that
are
previously
delineated
by
a
stream
and
Wetland
expert.
Also,
there's
Geotech
reports
that
that
go
out
there,
Geotech
information
that
goes
out
there
bores
holes
you
find
groundwater.
They
do
run
some
drawdowns
on
those
occasionally,
when
you're
looking
to
do
Wells
we're
not
doing
Wells
here
we're
doing
a
public
water
supply,
but
any
kind
of
rock
in
unsuitable
soils.
Those
kinds
of
things
do
show
up
in
Geotech,
but
yes,
there's
a
field
run
survey.
V
There
is
your
your
stream
and
Wetland
consultant
that
we've
already
done
delineated
and
verified
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers
and
DEQ.
So
there's
several
different
mechanisms.
That
survey.
B
Thank
you,
Warren
and
just
real
quick.
In
summary,
you
know
this
water
is
all
going
into
the
same
Basin.
It's
all
part
of
the
same
Basin
and
whether
the
variance
happens
or
not.
That's
that's
where
it's
going.
B
Mr
greenspoke
I'm,
not
sure
that
he
was
speaking
really
in
opposition
to
the
variance
per
se,
but
it's
certainly
not
an
engineer
and
the
one
witness
who
was
an
engineer.
Mr
Harrison,
agreed
that
it
made
sense
to
move
the
drainage
from
sector
two
into
section
three,
which
is
exactly
what
we're
proposing.
We
think
it
makes
the
most
sense
for
our
project,
as
well
as
the
project
that's
already
on
the
ground
in
Eastwood,
and
and
should
alleviate
some
of
those
problems
that
they're
experiencing
right
now,
Mr
stock.
K
K
V
I
believe
what
you,
what
he
may
be
getting
to,
what
you're
getting
to
is
gaseous
Creek
is
a
studied,
a
studied,
Creek
study
stream.
It
shows
up
on
NC
flood
maps
FEMA
those
kinds
of
things,
so
it
has
a
studied
part
to
it.
So
it
can
give
you
the
information
on
floodway
flood
plain
base.
Flood
elevation,
those
types
of
things,
these
streams
that
come
from
Eastwood
Village
this
project
and
other
projects
are
not
they're,
not
studied
streams.
V
L
Got
a
question
for
staff,
but
if,
by
just
granting
the
storm
water
variants,
we're
giving
the
landowner
future
developer
Etc
the
option
to
relocate
this
storm
water,
they
could
still
I
mean
we're
still
in
a
very
early
stage
of
this
design
process.
There's
several
iterations
have
to
go
we're
by
granting
this
variance,
we're
giving
them
the
option
to
move
this
water
from
one
Basin
to
another,
and
that's
it
period.
L
A
Hearing
normal
closed
the
public
hearing
portion
and
we
will
move
to
deliberation
discussion,
our
motion,
foreign.
L
E
B
I,
don't
I
think
that's
I!
Think
that's
fine,
although
I
would
take
the
position
that
I
would
object
to
them
as
as
confident
testimony
with
that
caveat,
I
think
part
of
the
record,
because
they
were
in
fact
submitted
objection.
E
C
Motion
to
prove
the
condition
conditional
use
permit
based
upon
the
foregoing
findings,
in
fact,
and
the
reasons
set
forth
therein,
I
moved
the
requested,
variance,
be
approved
and
the
staff
be
instructed
to
draft
an
order.
Order
consistent
with
this
motion
approving
the
permit,
with
any
agreed
upon
conditions
for
review
and
execution
by
the
chair
acting
chair
or
such
persons
to
designee
on
behalf
of
the
board.
A
K
A
A
case
having
passed,
we
will
see
if
staff
needs
a
little
bit
of
time
recess
to
prepare
that
order
or
not.
A
I
said
no
I'll
just
wing
it
I
guess,
like
yeah
I
talked
with
Carl
and
I
said
you
can
do
it.
That's
like
three
times.
A
A
Test
it
no,
but
but
I
said:
if
you
won't
do
it,
then
your
punishment,
I.
D
A
Yes,
because
and
she's
like
well.
D
You
won't
be,
you
won't
be
okay,
who
who
couldn't
you
hear
that
time,
yeah.
D
Y
A
That
last
the
last
two
quarter,
point
hike
where
the
FED
didn't
seem
right;
adjustment
for
that.
H
A
A
Just
sold
that
little
one
bedroom
house.
Z
L
L
L
L
A
A
D
D
C
A
D
A
A
A
A
We'll
come
back
to
order
and
as
we
come
back
to
order,
we
will
ask
for
order
in
the
room
and
then
we
will
move
to
we're
trying
to
turn
our
attorney
for
discussion
of
the
order.
E
All
right,
so
we
have
drafted
at
least
a
tentative
order
for
your
approval.
We
included
the
documents
from
Russell
Harrison
and
the
documents
in
PowerPoint
from
Gerald
Green
and
that,
basically,
that
the
board
has
jurisdiction
that
all
notices
were
sent.
E
This
is
for
a
storm
water,
ordinance
variants
and
that
at
the
hearing
the
applicant
and
any
parties
was
standing
were
given
the
opportunity
to
offer
oral
and
documentary
evidence
that
the
board
finds
that
the
unnecessary
hardship
would
result
from
a
strict
application
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
E
The
hardship
did
not
result
from
actions
taken
by
the
applicant
or
the
property
owner,
and
that
the
requested
variance
is
conditioned
is
consistent
with
the
spirit
and
purpose
and
and
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
such
that
Public
Safety
is
secured
and
substantial
Justice
will.
It
would
be
achieved
by
granting
the
same.
E
There
are
no
conditions
to
this
variance
that,
based
on
the
foregoing
findings
of
fact,
the
board
makes
the
following
conclusions
of
law
that
this
application
satisfies
the
requirements
for
granting
a
variance
contained
and
I
need
to
change
that
to
Buncombe
County
storm
water,
ordinance.
A
H
H
H
H
Special
use
permit
is
for
516
units,
306,
townhouse
and
duplex
units
and
210
apartment
units.
Through
this
PUD
process,
the
applicant
requests
a
deviation
for
an
increase
in
allowed
height
to
41
feet.
The
original
elevations
on
the
plan
set
showed
50,
but
the
applicant
submitted
revised
revised
elevations,
reducing
that
request
to
41
feet,
reduction
in
side
yard,
set
back
to
zero
to
allow
for
the
town,
town
homes
and
duplexes
reduction
and
required
lot
size
reduction
in
required
parking
from
the
required
1032
to
958
spaces.
H
1.8
spaces
per
unit
applicant
is
providing
two
spaces
for
townhouse
or
duplex
in
the
corresponding
driveways
and
346
surface
spaces.
For
the
apartments
there
are
two
entrances
on
Old
Charlotte,
Highway
and
June
sales.
Road,
as
of
September,
which
was
our
technical
review
committee
meeting,
the
applicant
had
not
submitted
the
traffic
impact
analysis
to
ncdot,
but
the
traffic
impact
analysis
had
been
submitted
to
the
planning
department.
H
Staff's
recommended
conditions
are
ncdot,
driveway
permit
project
must
be
constructed
as
depicted
in
the
site
plan.
Applicant
must
submit
for
subdivision
approval
for
the
306
proposed
subdivision.
Lots,
no
parking
signage
must
be
provided
on
the
side
of
the
street
in
the
vicinity
of
the
water
main
and
a
master
site
plan
must
be
submitted.
D
D
All
right,
the
second
standing
application
that
was
received
was
from
Ashley
Greene,
who
has
indicated
on
the
application
that
there
is
representing
multiple
members
of
old
Eastwood
Village.
Just.
A
D
Oh
I'm,
sorry
I
apologize.
The
third
standing
application
was
again
for
Mr
Russell
Harrison
on
this
okay.
H
AA
Do
thank
you.
Okay,
so
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself,
my
neighbors,
including
Colleen
Finnegan
and
Brenda
Julian,
and
in
representation
of
our
Eastwood
Village
Property
Owners,
Association,
board
members,
Debbie,
Dempsey,
Clayton,
Davis,
Diane,
Bruno
and
Rich
Corleone.
My
neighbors
and
I
will
be
impacted
by
a
development
runoff
with
the
disturbance
of
land
and
water
systems
and
other
issues
that
will
greatly
impact
our
property
values.
AA
U
AA
A
Yeah,
and
will
you
speak
to
any
special
damages
or
anything
else
that
you
would
that
the
board
may
consider
in
your
standing
application
here.
AA
AA
AA
Would
be
nice,
okay,
well,
a
lot
of
the
overview
gosh
has
to
do
with
some
of
the
landslides
and
retaining
wall
failures
and
flooding
other
property
damage
that
we
feel
that
the
development
would
just
exacerbate,
and
my
my
presentation
goes
into
more
detail.
I'm
sorry,
I
thought
I
would
just
stand
up
and
say
briefly:
I
didn't
realize
I
needed
to
fully
present.
A
You
ready
for
a
motion
to
or
a
motion
to,
approve
or
tonight,
Sandy
chairman
Paul.
B
If
you
might
again
I'll
just
point
on
the
face
of
the
application
for
standing,
I
think
that
it
defeats
the
requirements
for
standing
again,
we
invite
her
to
participate
as
a
witness
and
and
want
to
hear
whatever
she
needs
to
say
and
what
her
neighbors
have
to
say
about
the
proposed
impacts,
but
in
the
section
about
special
damages
she
talks
about
the
damages.
Generally,
she
was
mentioning
runoff
property
values
and
those
impacting
not
just
her,
but
many
of
her
neighbors
in
Eastwood
Village,
which,
by
definition,
can
be
special
damages.
B
AA
A
E
I,
what
I
don't
want
you
to
do
is
get
into
the
dubious
problem
of
unauthorized
practice
of
law
where
you
are
actually
representing
a
body
without
that
being
done
so
I.
Normally
we
have
people
that
can
speak
on
behalf,
that's
different,
but
if
you're
granted
standing,
you
actually
are
able
to
more
or
less
prosecute
and
defend
the
case.
Moving
forward,
I.
AA
E
B
If
I
can
add
counselor,
some
human
being
still
has
to
have
standing,
it
can't
just
be
the
association
and
that
that
certainly
has
not
been
shown
that
anyone
outstanding
here
and
that's
the
objection
again.
We
invite
them
to
participate
either
individually
or
collectively
as
Witnesses,
but
would
objective
standing
on
the
grounds
already
mentioned
right.
L
I,
don't
know
that
the
special
damages
warrant
has
been
met.
I.
A
AA
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We'll
move
to
the
applicant's
presentation.
B
I'm
gonna
hand
out
a
couple
things.
The
first
thing
that
I'm
going
to
bring
up
is
the
actual
the
the
final
determination
from
ncdot
final
decision
of
approval
on
the
traffic
impact
analysis.
I
know
that
it
had
been
sent
over
to
the
county,
but
it
wasn't
until
December
when
that
was
sent
over
to
make
sure
that
that's
in
front
of
you.
B
In
addition,
I'm
going
to
hand
up
renderings
of
the
Townhomes
duplexes,
as
well
as
the
proposed
apartment
building,
as
well
as
a
color
rendering
of
the
site
plan
layout
and
its
proximity
and
relationship
to
Eastwood
next
door.
B
B
X
B
B
Tony
kookley
is
here
for
the
developer
golden
hour:
Collective
they're,
the
ones
that
who
recently
held
a
neighbor
meeting
that
was
presided
over
by
Warren
Sugg,
who
you've
met
earlier
today
from
civil
Design
Concepts.
Who
is
our
engineer?
Our
traffic
engineer
from
Gannett
flanding
is
Jeff
Moore
who's
in
the
back
and
to
the
extent
we
have
any
valuation
issues,
we
have
Lynn
Carmichael
from
Ace
appraisals
who's.
Also
in
the
back
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
call
up
Tony.
B
While
we
introduce
the
project
and
what
I've
handed
up
and
and
for
the
benefit
of
those
in
the
audience
we
have
the
the
renderings
for
for
the
town
homes.
Here
we
also
have
the
site
plan.
That's
been
overlaid
next
door
to
Eastwood,
which
looking
top
down
you
can
see
just
to
the
left
and
at
Eastwood.
You
should
know
that
that
also
consists
of
single-family
homes
as
well
as
multi-family
as
well
as
attached,
dwellings
to
and-
and
it's
designed
this
project
to
look
a
lot
like
a
continuation
of.
AB
Good
afternoon
my
name's
Tony
Keekley
I'm
with
golden
hour
Collective
we're
a
Mini
Apple
spaced
developer,
but
we
work
on
projects
like
this
across
the
country.
The
vision
for
this
property
was
to
create
a
master
plan,
Community
much
like
Eastwood
to
the
West,
providing
multiple
housing
opportunities,
while
preserving
a
big
portion
of
open
space
to
the
north.
The
communities
we're
currently
developing
today
are
highly
amenitized
and
we
provide
residents
with
multiple
clubhouses
and
entertainment
spaces.
AB
Pools
Spas
dog
parks
integrated
trail
system,
not
only
through
the
neighborhood,
but
also
through
the
through
the
open
space.
This
will
have
multiple
playgrounds
outdoor
entertaining
spaces
like
fire
pits
and
things
like
that.
The
goal
is
really
just
to
create
a
neighborhood
in
a
sense,
a
community
on
the
site.
B
Thank
you,
Tony,
and,
while
we're
getting
this
thing,
teed
up
I'd
like
to
follow
that
up
with
some
of
the
policy
points
that
we
hear
about
in
some
of
our
planning
documents
and
things
that
we
read
about
in
the
papers
in
terms
of
what
we
need.
We've
heard
a
lot
about
from
the
media
and
from
public
comments
about
housing.
We
need
housing,
we
need
housing,
that's
adjacent
to
Transportation
corridors,
and
this
is
the
very
definition
of
that.
B
One
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
and
seen
written
about
recently
is
what's
being
called
The
Missing
metal
in
Western,
North
Carolina,
and
that
is
simply
a
code
for
town
homes
and
duplex
units,
whether
they
are
rentals
or
whether
they
are
owner
occupied.
Here
we
have
a
traffic
impact
analysis
that
recommends
and
Dot
is
Con
concurred
and
approved
installation
of
traffic
signals
at
key
locations
in
this
project.
That's
part
of
the
development
here
we're
surrounded
by
residentially,
zoned
districts.
In
fact,
the
density
here
is
is
as
of
right.
B
In
fact,
the
density
D
in
this
proposed
project
is
5.5
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
the
density
and
Eastwood
is
7.7
dwelling
units
per
acre.
So
it's
fully
two
units
per
acre,
less
dense
than
what's
right
beside
it.
One
of
the
things
that
Tony
was
talking
about
is
the
master
planning.
We
believe
in
Tony's
group
believes
and
Warren
believes
that
having
these
bigger
Parcels
allows
us
to
concentrate
open
space.
B
If
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
that's
up
you'll
see
large
areas
of
open
space
that
are
preserved
when
you
have
these
larger
parcels
and
you're
also
able
to
afford
and
and
make
economic
sense
for
amenity
programs
like
multiple
club
houses
and
multiple
pools
and
dog
parks
and
walking
trails,
and
those
things
are
certainly
included
here
and
we
have
what
we
believe
to
be
an
Innovative
development
model.
This
developer
is
invested
in
the
long
term
in
this
area
and
they're
going
to
have
this
project
master
plan
and
master
run
by
an
association
as
well.
B
B
Sugg,
you
can
introduce
the
project
if
you
would
walk
through
the
technical
compliance
standards
that
you
and
CDC
have
gone
through
in
laying
this
out,
I'll
leave
the
site
plan
up
or
I
can
put
something
else
up
if
that's
helpful
for
you,
but
walk
us
through
the
site
plan,
compliance
and
really
what
we're
doing
here
is
walking
through
those
elements
inside
the
sup
to
show
compliance
with
that.
If
you
have
questions
about
those
I
can
Circle
back
and
hit
those
comments,
but
that
works.
B
What
we're
doing
is
walking
through
that
checklist
of
items
in
in
your
proof,
chart
that
you've,
given
us.
V
Thanks
Derek,
as
mentioned
this
is
a
a
99
Acre
Site,
it's
98.9
I
believe
99
Acre
Site.
It's
currently
has
R3
and
NS
zoning
on
it.
The
R3
is
roughly
about
two-thirds
of
the
zoning
NS
being
the
bottom
portion,
and
it's
the
by
the
last
third.
As
mentioned,
we're
at
about
5.2
units
per
acre.
That's
176,
duplex
units,
130,
townhome
units,
210
apartment
units
of
that
99
Acres.
We
have
approximately
47
Acres,
so
roughly
about
half
of
it
that
is
undisturbed.
V
V
I
point
you
to
the
two
sort
of
gold:
color
features,
there's
a
clubhouse
that
is
just
to
the
north
east
side
of
the
apartment
area.
The
apartments
are
the
four
buildings
that
are
directly
adjacent
to
Old
Charlotte,
and
you
see
some
access
there
to
June
sales.
I
wish
I
had
a
corner,
but
that's
okay.
V
We
have.
We
have
a
ability
to
go
up
to
1076
units
when
you
look
at
the
acreage
and
what
would
be
allowable
even
with
some
of
that
steep
slope,
and
you
can
see
that
in
our
data
block
on
our
plan
sheets,
it
gives
you
a
rundown
of
how
you
get
1076
but
we're
at
2
at
5
16..
So,
roughly
about
half
of
what's
allowed,
we
have
purposefully
moved
the
higher
density
items
further
down
the
slope
to
the
to
the
Lesser
sloped
area.
V
V
The
project
has,
as
I
mentioned
holistically,
been
moved
more
to
the
South
to
stay
on
the
Lesser
sloped
and
preserve
the
steeper
and
most
more
visible
areas.
We
do
have
two
access
points
on
this
site,
so
we
have
an
access
that
you
can
see
split
to
the
South
that
is
going
to
Old
Charlotte
Highway.
We
also
have
an
access
point
to
June
sells
Road.
Both
those
access
points
will
give
good
circulation
for
any
type
of
residence,
plus
any
kind
of
emergency
access.
That's
needed
with
those
two
access
points.
V
Those
were
part
of
the
dot
approval
that
Mr
Allen
spoke
to
earlier.
This
all
part
of
our
traffic
impact
study
on
1208
we've
got
the
final
decision
letter
from
ncdot,
giving
us
the
recommendations
on
what
is
expected
of
us
there's,
certainly
a
signal
that
will
be
at
June
sales
and
us-74a
and
then
also
some
signage
markings
and
then
a
little
bit
of
guidance
on
these
access
points,
just
making
sure
that
we've
got
plenty
of
throat
distance
for
any
kind
of
cars
to
queue
which
we
certainly
have.
V
That
and
more
I
spoke
to
a
little
bit
earlier,
but
I'll
speak
to
it
again.
We've
had
a
field
determination
of
all
the
streams
of
wetlands
on
site,
so
we've
had
a
a
environmental
consultant
who's
expert
in
that
to
go
out
and
find
all
streams
and
wetlands
on
site.
Those
have
been
filled,
delineated
and
approved
by
Corps
of
Engineers
and
at
DEQ.
V
Any
future
impacts
that
we
have
to
those
streams
and
wetlands
would
have
to
go
through
a
permitting
process
through
the
core
and
through
DEQ,
and
with
that
same
consultant
and
myself,
the
site
has
been
designed
with
units
access
and
circulation
to
minimize
the
noise,
the
vibration,
the
odor
and
the
glare
we've
tried
to
really
push
the
site
to
have
the
circulation
internal,
have
as
many
units
fronting
the
the
corners
to
try
to
break
up
any
kind
of
anything
such
as
noise,
vibration,
odor
and
glare
mention
those
access
points
and
those
stem
links
a
little
earlier,
that's
dictated
by
ncdot
and
as
part
of
our
ncdot
driveway
permit.
V
We
would
have
to
adhere
to
their
Tia
plus
standard
driveway
practices.
Jillian
had
mentioned
earlier
about
the
parking
and
I'll
go
a
little
further
into
that.
We
do
have
two
parking
spaces
in
the
driveways
of
every
town,
home
and
duplex,
and
we
will
have
garage
spaces
as
well.
Many
of
them
may
be
two-car,
maybe
one
car,
but
there's
more
than
adequate
parking
there.
The
variance
real
or
the
the
request
is
really
in
the
apartment
area
and
the
the
code
there
is
looking
for.
V
B
Or
on
that,
I
want
to
drill
down
that
that
question
just
a
second,
if
you
backed
out
and
look
at
the
project,
whole
cloth,
the
parking
is
met.
It's
just
a
if
you
look
at
only
the
apartment
section,
that's
where
it's
it's
a
modification
correct.
V
V
H
V
Moving
on
water,
so
water
will
be
served
by
a
city
of
Asheville.
We've
already
had
a
allocation
provided
by
the
city
of
Asheville
to
the
site.
We
would
have
a
couple
connection
points:
Old
Charlotte
has
an
existing
water
line
that
we
would
connect.
Also
June
sells
has
a
water
line
that
we
would
connect
to.
So
we
would
have
a
loop
system.
There
would
be
a
master
meter
for
the
apartment
complex
and
then
there
would
be
individual
meters
for
the
the
other
units
on
site.
V
V
Everything
inside
of
the
site
would
be
all
gravity,
so
no
pumping
required
storm
water.
We
touched
on
a
little
earlier
and
I'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
here
so
stormwater
on
site.
We
have
approximately
10
storm
water
ponds,
plus
we
have
some
storm
Tech
Systems,
which
are
below
ground
storm
treatment
devices.
So
all
the
storm
water
on
this
site
will
hit
one
of
those
different
devices
and
be
meet
all
of
Buncombe
County's
standards
on
stormwater.
V
As
far
as
this,
this
project
is
residential
against
Residential.
So
technically
we
wouldn't
really
need
any
landscape
buffering
on
the
edges,
but
we
are
proposing
a
20-foot
landscape
buffer.
You
can
see
that
in
the
sort
of
Darker
green
areas
that
would
be
along
the
east
and
west
side
as
shown,
and
we
certainly
think
this
is
a
great
addition.
We've
seen
that
on
a
lot
of
other
projects,
that's
been
before
you
to
add
a
landscape
buffer
where
you're
abutting
other
residential.
So
that's
been
part
of
the
plan.
V
Sight
lighting
was
certainly
going
to
have
safe
site
lighting
for
the
streets
and
we
would
have
that
approved
through
Buncombe
County,
any
kind
of
revenues
that
they
want
to
do.
We
definitely
want
to
make
sure,
there's
enough
way,
finding
signs,
as
well
as
Monument
signs
for
the
project
to
properly
function
and
to
be
lit
safely.
V
A
few
of
the
amenities
we
have
some
on-site
playgrounds,
probably
hard
to
see
in
this
map,
but
we
have
one
playground
as
you
come
in
from
Old
Charlotte
to
the
left
hand
side.
This
would
be
very
close
to
the
existing
upon
this
there
today
around
that
you
see
some
trails
that
will
take
you
from
there
and
circulate
you
all
through
the
whole
site.
There's
another
playground
that
is
up
on
the
north
south
portion
of
the
road
just
just
to
the
east
side,
and
we
expect
to
have
those
two
formalized
playgrounds.
V
There
may
be
some
other
informal
areas
as
well
as
these
Trails.
We
do
have
the
two
amenity
areas,
one
for
the
apartment
area,
where
you'd
have
a
clubhouse
leasing,
mail,
packaging
pool
and
all
things
of
that
sort
and
then
also
where
the
duplexes
and
Townhomes
are.
They
have
their
own
Clubhouse
and
amenity
package
as
well
General
size.
V
If
we
could
go
to
maybe
or
you
could
see
c200
it
gives
you
a
typical
section
of
what
the
duplex
and
townhome
units
will
look
like
we're,
showing
25
foot
wide
duplex,
so
50
foot
total
that
may
move
a
little
bit.
One
way
or
the
other,
you
may
have
a
30
foot
and
a
20,
but
overall
the
duplex
total
width
would
not
exceed
50..
We've
got
seven
foot
side
setbacks
when
you're
looking
at
the
Town
Home
units.
Overall,
we've
got
a
lot
of
four
four
Plex
units:
we're
expecting
those
to
average
around
25
foot
wide.
V
So
you
may
have
some
that
are
on
the
ends,
maybe
as
much
as
27
or
30
foot
wide.
But
overall
we
would
not
expect
it
to
average
out
higher
than
25..
We
do
have
the
seven
foot
side
yard
setback
on
those
Town
Homes
as
well.
A
few
last
things
on
the
apartments.
We
are
asking
for
a
very
modification
going
up
to
41
foot.
As
mentioned
earlier.
We
had
it
around
49
to
50
feet
earlier,
but
we
were
able
to
look
at
some
architectural
ways
to
get
that
height
down.
V
So
41
is
a
very,
very,
very
good
way
to
to
do
that,
and
these
are
three
four
split
Apartments
which
happen
a
lot
across
Western
North
Carolina,
a
few
last
things
along
the
apartments.
We
do
have
on-site
garages
on-site
parking.
We
have
on-site
amenities,
on-site,
Clubhouse,
on-site,
trash
collection
and
internal
pedestrian
and
vehicular
connections.
K
Yeah
I've
got
some
questions,
but
are
you
going
to
go
to
your
traffic
impact
person
first.
B
B
Mr
Moore
you've
done
this
before.
If
you
could
give
us
your
educational
background
and
your
work
qualifications
that
would
be
relevant
to
you,
testifying
as
an
expert
in
the
area
of
traffic
engineering.
B
AC
AC
Yes,
sir,
we
initially
did
a
scoping
meeting
and
a
submitted
scoping
documents
where
the
intersections
were
determined
that
the
impact
analysis
would
cover.
We
perform
traffic
counts
with
perform
those
internally
and
we
did
those
while
school
was
in
session
and
then
we
we
perform
computer
modeling
and
Analysis
and
compile
the
report
submitted
it
to
the
county
and
draft
form
to
the
client,
which
was
the
cement
County
draft
form
and
then
submitted
to
the
North,
Carolina
DOT
and
final
sealed
form.
B
Sure
and
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
forecast
this
issue,
because
there
have
been
some
comments
about
whether
or
not
the
the
school's
in
session,
and
when
that
was
done,
can
you
explain
both
the
source
of
the
confusion
given
the
date
of
the
traffic
impact
analysis,
as
well
as
how
you
know
that
the
date
was
in
fact
on
May,
17
and
may
18.
AC
Yes,
sir,
the
the
traffic
cameras
assisted
in
putting
those
up
myself,
we
put
those
up
on
May
17th.
We
picked
them
up
on
May
18th.
We
gathered
peak
hours
in
the
afternoon
from
4
to
6
p.m,
on
May
17th
and
then
from
7
to
9
A.M
on
May
18th.
AC
Those
cameras
were
the
videos
that
were
taken
by
those
cameras
were
then
downloaded
and
then,
due
to
workloads,
we
weren't
able
to
get
the
actual
counting
done.
We
use
a
a
software
called
count
pro
software
and
a
keyboard
which
is
designed
to
input
the
directions
that
the
traffic
is
turning
movements.
AC
B
B
And-
and
this
says
May
17
and
May
18
correct
yes,.
AC
AC
We
we
confirmed
that
based
on
the
Buncombe
County
calendar
and
the
18th
shows
this
particular
video
shows
a
school
bus
entering
the
intersection.
However,
the
time
is
out
of
the
time
frame
that
we
would
count
to
determine
a
peak
hour,
but
did
not
scroll
through
the
video
to
find
a
school
bus
during
the
seven
to
nine
A.M
peek
out.
So.
B
Thank
you
and
and
I
think
I
interrupt
you
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
you
explaining
the
process
and
the
Dot's
conclusions
and
I'll
try
to
help
get
you
back
on
track
on
that
has
dot
reviewed
your
traffic
impact
analysis
and
your
recommendations
for
this
project.
Yes,.
B
And
we've
since
submitted
that
to
the
county
into
this
board
of
adjustment.
Yes,
sir,
in
terms
of
the
traffic
improvements
that
you
recommended
and
Dot
has
approved,
can
you
explain
those
briefly?
Yes,.
AC
Sir,
the
main
Improvement
was
a
traffic
signal
at
June
sales
and
U.S
74.
The
fully
actuated
uncoordinated,
there's
excuse
me
fully
actuated,
it
may
or
may
not
be
coordinated
with
adjacent
traffic.
Signals
depend
on
the
determination
of
ncdot.
We
modeled
it
as
coordinated
because
that's
the
best
case,
but
dot,
of
course,
has
the
final
determination
on
that.
B
B
AC
The
the
roads
that
are
State
routes,
sir,
are
June
sales
and
Old
Charlotte
Highway
I
did
not
the
Eastwood
Village
I
believe
is
privately
maintained,
including
the
intersection
with
us-74,
where
it
goes
through.
Old,
Charlotte,
Highway
and
it
attaches
I
believe.
K
And
how
about
access
to
Old
Charlotte
Highway,
one
of
the
maps
someone
submitted
and
I
think
they're.
Just
you
know:
public
witness
showed
a
one-lane
bridge.
Okay,
yeah!
Are
you
familiar
with
that
on
Old
Charlotte
Highway?
Yes,
sir?
Okay?
Well,
that
be
affected
by
any
access
to
the
development.
AC
AC
AC
That's
part
of
the
part
of
the
scoping
presentation
that
the
dot
looks
at
and
determines,
if
that's
appropriate
or
not
so
we
we
did
do
directional,
split
and
I
can
find
that
in
just
a
moment
if
you'd
like.
B
AC
K
K
AC
Yes,
sir,
looking
at.
AC
The
chart
we
have
approximately
looks
like
sure,
I'm
telling
this
up
right:
85
in
the
AM
peak
hour,
traveling
westbound
with
appears
30
traveling
eastbound
on
Old
Charlotte.
So
the
85
that's
a
little
over
one
per
minute
and
then
the
30
is
about
one.
Every
two
minutes
going.
K
AC
K
Okay,
the
other
thing
you
mentioned
recommended
I
think
a
traffic
signal
and
timing
of
the
lights.
Yes,
sir
and
I
didn't
talk
to
D.O.T
about
this
we've
seen
the
report
and
you
know
I'm
just
curious
again.
What
was
their
response
I
mean.
Is
that
something
kind
of
like
after
the
development
is
built?
They'll
take
a
look
at
that
again
or
see
if
they
have
money
in
the
budget
to
do
it.
You
know
I
mean
yes,
sir
I've
heard
this
many
times
so.
AC
That's
what
I'm,
asking
and
I
used
to
work
for
DOT,
so
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from?
Yes,
sir?
The
because
it's
a
recommendation
in
the
traffic
impact
analysis,
the
developer
is
required
to
install
that
as
part
of
the
driveway
permit
process.
AC
AC
AC
B
Yeah,
you
need
to
get
in
the
politics
of
it,
but
suffice
it
to
say:
without
these
things
being
installed
and
paid
for
by
the
developer,
they,
the
developer,
won't
get
driveway
permits
correct.
That.
AC
Is
correct?
Yes,
sir,
and
it
it
this
being
required.
I
Q
I've
got
a
question:
Mr
Moore,
I'm,
I'm
forecasting
here
this
bridge
coming.
I
Q
AC
I
AC
That
hasn't
been
incorporated
into
traffic
impact
analyzes,
yet
is
coming
I
welcome.
It
gives
us
the
opportunity,
in
this
case
the
the
bridge.
Is
there
it's
existing
ncdot
maintains
it
it's
solely
their
responsibility,
as
of
yet
I
have
no
reason
to
believe
they
won't
address
that
in
the
near
future.
The
the
traffic
signal,
although
we
assigned
a
certain
amount
of
traffic
to
go
this
way,
I,
have
no
reason
to
believe
that
more
people
won't
go.
Won't
choose
the
traffic
signal,
because
that
makes
it
a
lot
easier
to
get
out
onto
Charlotte
Highway.
Q
And
again,
just
just
for
clarity,
yes,
sir,
the
the
bridge
and
its
current
state
was
taken
into
consideration
in
your
study,
and
was
that
was
part
of
what
was
approved
as
the
driveway.
Permit
is
obviously.
AC
Is
there
in
the
existing
state,
my
Tia
was
not
does
not
specifically
address
the
bridge,
the
ncdot,
so
that's
their
responsibility.
They
looked
at
my
Tia
and
approved
the
TA
as
scoped,
so.
AC
Q
AC
Q
AC
W
I
K
Yeah
hear
this
again
yeah
if
I
could
continue
with
this
a
little
bit.
Okay,
so
dot
looked
at
your
traffic
analysis
and
they
did
take
into
account
the
single
Lane
Branch.
Okay,
what
do
they
say
or
they
they
say
anything
specific
about
it
and
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
why
I
bring
it
up
because
I've
seen
a
development
with
the
single
lane
bridge
and
after
about
two
years,
DLT
said
we're
pretty
much
going
to
fund
a
new
bridge
with
taxpayer
money.
K
K
B
AD
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Lynn
Carmichael
I
am
a
certified
General
appraiser
here
in
North
Carolina
I
got
my
trainees
license
in
2004
I
got
my
General's
license
General
license
in
2008
in
2014,
I
earned
my
Mai
designation
through
the
appraisal
Institute
and
in
2019
I
earned
my
aigrs
designation
through
the
appraisal.
Institute
I
am
a
board
member
on
the
North
Carolina
appraisal,
board
general
or
Governor
Cooper
appointed
me
in
well.
Four
years
ago.
AD
I
guess
I
was
2019,
something
like
that.
2018.
and
I've
been
working
doing
commercial
appraisal,
commercial
appraisals
in
Western,
North
Carolina.
Ever
since
2004.
B
AD
B
You
been
certified
as
an
expert
in
those
areas
before
the
sport
of
adjustment.
B
Attend
to
miss
Carmichael
is
an
expert
in
those
areas.
You
know
objection
satender.
Thank
you.
Mr
Michael,
have
you
looked
at
any
types
of
valuation
impacts
that
proposed
project
would
have
on
surrounding
property
values,
conducted
a
study,
and
if
you
could
walk
us
through
your
your
both
your
methodology
and
your
conclusions.
AD
Yes,
I
have
done
a
study
and
I
understand.
Everyone
has
a
copy
of
it
right
now.
What
I
did
is
I
took
a
look
at
the
the
development
and
looked
at
similar
developments
that
have
been
developed
in
recent
years
and
by
recent
years,
I
mean
preferably
within
the
past
10
years
and
within
that
as
recent
as
possible.
AD
AD
What
I
did
is
I
took
a
look
at
the
volume
of
sales
and
the
median
values
the
year
prior
to
the
year
prior
to
the
development
of
each
of
these
developments
and
the
year
after
the
development,
and
then
I
took
a
look
at
the
percentage
difference
in
the
median
values
before
and
after
the
construction
of
these
developments.
AD
And
now,
if
you
look
on
actually
page
three
of
my
study,
what
I
did
is
I
set
up
set
out
a
scope
of
work,
and
basically
the
problem
I
was
trying
to
identify,
is:
does
the
presence
of
a
516
unit
residential
development
have
an
injurious
impact
on
the
residential
property
values
in
in
the
surrounding
area?
AD
Furthermore,
and
a
big
if,
if
the
presence
of
a
516
unit
residential
development
is
injurious
to
the
residential
property,
values
than
I
would
expect
to
see
a
consistent
pattern
of
decreased
property
values
after
construction
of
similar
developments,
despite
other
influences.
Okay,
so
that
that
was
the
theory
that
I
was
going
in,
and
I've
already
talked
about
the
methodology
finding
similar
developments
and
looking
at
the
media,
the
volume
of
sales
and
the
median
values
prior
to
construction
the
year
prior
and
the
year
after
construction.
AD
If
you
look
on
page
four
of
my
study,
the
five
developments
that
I
analyzed
are
the
reserves
at
gaseous
Creek,
which
is
actually
across
Ultra
across
Charlotte
Highway,
from
where
this
development
is
going
to
be
so,
and
it
was
constructed
in
2020.,
River,
Mills,
Lofts,
Hawthorne
at
Mills,
Creek
and
just
down
there.
They
all
these
developments
are
within
the
28803
or
the
28704
zip
code
area.
AD
You
can
see
the
results
of
my
analysis.
There
and
I
also
took
a
look
at
median
median
values
and
volume
of
sales
within
the
general
28704
and
28803
zip
code
areas
that
that
encompassed
the
years
that
I
was
analyzing
the
developments,
because
these
developments
were
all
constructed
between
2017
and
2020..
AD
AD
Okay,
I
restate
my
theory
there,
and
then
we
can
see
that
the
for,
for
the
each
comparable
development
I
examined
the
volume
of
sales
and
the
median
values
for
Residential
Properties
within
a
one
mile
and
five
mile
radius
of
the
developments
for
the
year
proceeding
and
the
year
after
the
construction
of
the
development,
the
volume
of
sales
and
the
median
values
were
extracted
from
the
local
MLS
and,
and
then
the
theory
is
stated,
and
the
paragraph
after
the
theory
stated
about
halfway
through
there.
AD
Actually,
it
says,
as
stated
previously,
the
volume
of
sales
overall
decreased
within
a
one
mile
radius.
Yet
yet
there
was
a
fluctuation
within
the
ZIP
code
areas
also,
so
that
wasn't
a
consistent
pattern.
We're
seeing
fluctuating
in
the
zip
code
areas
we're
seeing
fluctuating
in
the
one
mile
radius.
AD
However,
they
increased
within
the
five
mile
radius
in
every
instance,
the
median
values
increased
between
the
one-year
proceeding
construction
and
the
the
multi-family
development
and
the
year
after
construction
as
such
I
did
not
see
a
consistent
pattern
of
decrease
in
the
volume
of
sales
in
the
median
prices
for
Residential
Properties
surrounding
similar
larger
unit
count
developments
in
the
area
when
analyzed
before
and
after
construction,
and
then
the
next
paragraph
just
talks
about
the
analysis
to
look
at
the
bigger
picture
within
the
ZIP
code
areas,
because
certainly
we
can
see
if,
if
I
only
saw
maybe
a
two
percent
increase.
AD
Yet
the
zip
code
area
saw
a
10
increase,
then
it
we'd
have
a
problem
there.
However,
if
we
look
back
on
the
page
three,
where
it
has
the
data,
you
can
see
that
the
overall
difference
in
the
one
mile
radius
is
an
18
18.4
percent
increase
in
the
year
proceeding
in
the
year
after,
within
a
five
mile
radius,
we're
looking
at
a
21.3
percent
increase
in
the
in
the
median
values
and
when
we
look
at
the
ZIP
code
areas
we're
looking
at
a
17.3
percent
increase.
AD
So
in
in
this
development
studied,
we
actually
had
greater
increase
in
value
in
the
year
preceding
of
the
year
after,
as
opposed
to
in
the
zip
code
areas.
So,
given
that
information,
my
conclusion
on
page
six
is
that
there
is
no
injurious
impact
on
value,
was
found
for
the
residential
property
surrounding
the
multi-family
developments
analyzed
and
that,
based
on
that
information,
I
do
not
foresee
any
negative
impact
on
the
values
for
this
development.
For
for
the
surrounding
resident,
Residential,
Properties.
B
Thank
you,
Miss
Carmichael,
and
we
all
from
Miss
Carmichael's
testimony
really
have
at
an
abundance
of
caution
and
related
to
the
sup
provision
in
your
ordinance
about
those
use
not
being
injurious
to
property,
we're
being
expansive
and
again
overly
cautious
that
that
might
include
property
values.
While
to
me
it
seems
commonsensical
that,
like
type
products
with
a
lower
density
beside
like
type
products
would
not
have
any
impact
on
property
values.
B
B
We'll
email,
you
all
the
the
documents
that
we
have
submitted
with,
that
chair
and
staff,
we'll
rest
on
our
positive
part
of
our
case,
I'll
reserve.
The
balance
for
any
rebuttal.
That's
necessary.
I
would
like
to
introduce
into
evidence
all
of
the
the
documents
that
we
have
submitted
and
passed
up
to
both
the
board
of
adjustment
and
handed
out
to
staff
and
we'll
make
sure
to
provide
electronic
copies
of
those
by
email
to
to
staff.
So.
A
J
J
J
The
last
15
years
I
had
my
own
practice
and
I
did.
Project
management
for
residential
development,
I,
managed
and
processed
over
90
residential
developments
and
9
000,
Lots
and
I
was
taking
it
from
a
raw
land
status
to
a
finished
developed.
A
lot
I
managed
everything
from
initial
studies,
cost
estimates
to
zoning
planning,
subdivision
agreements,
representation,
oversaw
construction
of
our
site,
improvements
and,
finally,
acceptance
of
those
improvements
by
the
public
agency.
J
J
I-
and
it
was
only
yesterday
morning
at
10
A.M-
that
I
realized
there
was
a
request
to
participate
form
that
I
should
fill
out.
I
wasn't
sure
the
proceedings,
if
I
didn't
fill
that
out,
would
I
be
allowed
to
present
testimony
it's
it's
it's
actually.
The
process
is
very
unclear,
not
one
that
I've
ever
been
through,
where
I
practiced.
J
Those
would
be
something
very
important
for
the
public
to
know
as
it
relates
to
say
an
HOA
Eastwood
Village,
for
example,
if
the
board
has
to
authorize
somebody
to
represent
them,
or
somebody
wants
to
hire
an
attorney
or
an
expert
witness
I,
don't
believe
eight
or
ten
days
is
an
adequate
amount
of
time
for
anybody
to
go
through
the
documents.
Do
an
analysis
and
provide
a
comprehensive
report
to
you.
J
J
You
know
if
somebody
receives
that
in
the
mail
and
they
go
well,
this
didn't
they
go
down
through
the
first
three.
They
don't
know
where
they
are.
This
doesn't
apply
to
me.
It
says
right
at
the
top.
I
don't
need
to
respond
so
that
may
be.
Why
there's
not
a
reach,
not
that
much
response
I
mean
I'm,
glad
to
see
how
many
people
are
in
the
audience,
but
considering
this
was
mailed
out
on
December
22nd.
J
J
J
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
dot
has
given
some
approval
and
agreed
to
a
traffic
signal.
Unfortunately,
I
haven't
seen
that
document.
J
What
I've
seen
as
a
traffic
study
that
has
draft
on
the
face
of
it,
not
for
public
distribution,
not
a
final
report.
I
double
checked
this
morning
on
your
website,
and
that
was
the
same
traffic
study.
I
looked
at,
so
how
can
I
really
provide
good
input
if
I'm?
Looking
at
a
draft
traffic
study
and
I?
Don't
know
that
dot
has
reviewed
this
and
approved
it?
I
have
the
same
concern
that
you
have
when
you
talk
about
the
bridge.
Did
they
look
at
it?
J
Probably
not
and
I
think
there
was
a
question
that
could
be
answered
in
the
next
30
days
and
I
would
say
and
I
don't
I'm
not
familiar
with
DOT,
but
if
they
make
a
commitment-
and
they
say
you
can
install
a
traffic
signal-
that's
great.
The
developers
paying
100
of
it.
That's
great
and
I
would
recommend
a
requirement
that
the
traffic
signal
be
installed
prior
to
the
first
occupancy
of
a
building.
J
J
You
know
the
speed
limit,
may
say
45
miles
an
hour,
but
I'll
tell
you.
The
majority
of
people
are
going
with
55
60
65
miles
an
hour,
and
it's
it's
actually
very
scary.
I
have
to
be
very
careful
when
I
make
a
left-hand
turn
into
my
drive
into
cliffview
drive
and
they
they
continue
that
speed,
and
then
they
look
down
at
the
lights
and
they're
trying
to
beat
the
lights.
So
there's
a
lot
of
red
light
runners.
J
J
J
That
doesn't
mean
I'm
right
or
she's
right
or
either.
One
of
us
is
wrong,
but
I
would
like
to
have
the
ability
to
see
that
drainage
I'm
very
concerned
about
gaseous
Creek
I
mentioned
that
in
my
previous
testimony
we
had
a
tremendous
flood
in
December
2015..
J
It's
not
going
to
get
any
better
storms
are
more
frequent,
they're
more
intense.
We
all
know
that
I
don't
know
if
the
county
standards
have
been
updated
to
reflect
the
intensity
of
the
rains
and
the
designs
are
now
to
those
standards,
but
I
do
know
that
Barrington
Village
had
all
that
in
place
and
it
blew
out
our
roadway
150
000
to
fix
it.
J
In
in
looking
at
property
and
doing
diligence
from
my
developers,
they
would
come
to
me
and
say
you
know,
we're
thinking
about
buying
this
property
go
out
and
look
at
it
find
out.
The
zoning
find
out
possible
glitches
and
I
would
do
that
in
some
properties.
I
would
say
you
know
you
shouldn't
buy
that
property.
It
has
too
many
problems.
J
J
J
There's
going
to
be
debris
flow
in
the
future,
it
might
be
five
years
10
years
15.
and
that
could
cause
loss
of
life,
property
damage
and
I.
Don't
think
this
board,
or
anybody
in
the
county
wants
to
be
responsible
for
that
when
the
facts
are
right
in
front
of
you,
in
addition
to
the
brief
flow,
there's,
a
unstable
ground
identified
on
your
GIS
site,
huge
amount
of
unstable
ground
directly
above
this
property,
so
I
would
look
at
this
site.
A
We'll
again
Ask
the
applicants
to
take
some
notes
and
redress
these
issues
at
the
end
of
the
witness
round,
but
we
will
ask
staff
just
briefly:
we
don't
usually
do
this,
but
I
want
to
turn
to
staff
and
talk
about
the
efforts
over.
Can
we
make
a
monthly
yearly
to
make
our
processes
better
and
to
make
sure
we
are
complying
with
all
notice
requirements
and
making
sure
we
get
out
there
with
all
the
data
we
need
to.
W
W
We
try
to
do
anything
and
everything
we
can
do,
and
we'd
also
like
to
remind
the
board
that
we
are
in
the
final
stages
of
a
new
comprehensive
plan
process
and
which
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
any
number
of
changes
to
our
development
processes.
So
those
will
change
as
well.
In
addition
to
that,
in
terms
of
traffic
study,
we
actually,
while
we're
not
even
required
to
do
this,
because
the
North
Carolina
Department
of
Transportation
counties
do
not
maintain
roads.
That
is
a
function
of
the
state
and
municipalities.
W
However,
we
have
put
in
place
a
standard
that
says
anything
in
excess
of
75
units
requires
a
traffic
study,
so
this
obviously
triggered
that
and
then
the
other
thing
I
want
to
caution
the
board
on
is.
We
do
have
a
very
good
overlay
protections
for
our
steep
slope
and
protected
ridges,
and
those
are
indicated
on
on
our
Maps,
but
I
do
want
to
caution
the
board
too.
That
GIS
is
a
very,
very
powerful
tool
But.
It
includes
multiple,
multiple
jurisdictions
that
contribute
to
it.
W
When
you
see
the
debris
flow,
Pathways
you're,
looking
at
USGS
data
you're,
also
looking
at
USDA
soil
Maps.
If
you
look
all
over
the
county,
it
can
be
rather
jarring
because
you
will
see
many
areas
along
many
area,
many
slopes
and
and
many
downslopes
of
mountains,
that
that
map
the
probability
of
what
could
occur
or
what
has
historically
occurred.
It's
put
there
for
informational
purposes,
but
I
think.
B
Mr
Pennington,
if
I,
can
follow
up
on
the
that
I'm
kind
of
in
the
order
that
you
did
on
the
notice
to
to
others.
Not
only
does
the
county
send
those
out,
but
although
we're
not
required
to
do
so,
we
borrow
their
thousand
foot
mailing
list
and
send
out
our
own
invitation
to
have
neighbor
meetings
which
we
had
in
this
instance,
where
we
previewed
the
project.
We
answer
questions
and
then
we
try
to
incorporate
to
the
extent
we
can
comments,
questions
and
concerns
into
the
development
into
our
presentation.
B
So
we
do
that
in
advance,
even
though
it's
not
required
by
the
ordinance.
We
think
it's
a
good
thing
to
do
and
we
borrow
there
and
we
appreciate
you
letting
us
use
your
ability
to
to
send
those
those
mailings
out.
In
addition,
in
terms
of
the
traffic
impact
analysis,
we're
absolutely
Bound
by
those
things
that
are
approved
recommendations,
so
the
traffic
installation,
traffic
installation
we've
committed
to
that
and
ncdot
will
require
it
and
we'll
do
it
and
two
things
the
debris
flow
Pathways
as
well
as
a
steep
slope.
B
Those
are
external
compliance
issues
that
the
ordinance
already
covers
that
we
already
have
to
go
do
outside
of
this
entitlement
process.
We
already
have
to
get
those
approvals
and
we
can't
do
things
Beyond,
those
so
those
things
we
already
have
to
comply
with.
Finally,
I
was
trying
to
be
patient
and
allow
Mr
Hairston
to
to
get
everything
out.
He
wanted
to
say,
but
to
the
extent
that
he
was
trying
to
testify
as
an
expert
in
any
area,
whether
it's
valuation
engineering
traffic
process.
A
A
Welcome
and
staff
will
swear
again.
D
I
think
you
could
please
raise
your
right
hand
and
state
your
name.
O
O
O
O
We
did
have
the
neighborhoods
were
able
to
held
a
conference,
a
zoom
call
with
Mr
Sugg
on
the
fifth.
There
are
about
35
residents
in
attendance.
I
was
one
of
them,
so
we
appreciate
that
I'd
like
to
start
with
something
that
we
perhaps
agree
on,
because
there
seems
to
be
a
disagreement
or
concern
over
so
many
issues
here
today,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
with
this
project.
O
I
believe
I
think
that
we
do
have
differing
opinions
and
concerns
and
that
we
are
here
today
to
find
an
agreeable,
mutually
agreeable
resolution
to
some
of
our
concerns
with
the
proposed
project.
So
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
six
brief
points
we
have
addressed
in
detail
the
expert
witness
that
you
have
on
the
traffic
issue.
O
I
will
say,
first
and
foremost,
I
believe
that
I,
nor
many
of
the
residents
have
had
an
opportunity
to
equally
and
adequately
review
the
documents.
Many
folks,
as
you
know,
are
not
computer
literate,
so
can't
access
your
website
second
issue,
although
Mr
Allen
has
made
note
that
the
they're
not
required
to
but
have
sent
notice
to
many
folks
I
wonder
if
there's
any
signatures
to
demonstrate
how
many
of
those
folks
actually
received
the
imitations.
O
If
it
seems
like
there's
more
detail,
that
needs
to
be
forthcoming
on
the
traffic
study
that
we
still
have
questions
about.
Furthermore,
I
would
invite
you
to
take
a
ride
up
June
sales
road,
which
I
did
recently
and
also
on
Old
Charlotte
Highway
with
the
one
lane
bridge.
O
It
is
horrifying
horrifying
how
narrow
it
is
I
dread
to
think
what
would
happen
if
an
emergency
vehicle
needed
to
get
up
to
a
development
of
516
Folks
up
there
I
dread
to
think
that
I
invite
you
before
you
make
your
decision
to
consider
delaying
this
project
until
you
are
able
to
take
a
ride
and
do
justice
to
The
Limited
Narrow
Path.
Both
entrances
represent
to
this
project.
O
B
O
Speaking
to
that,
with
his
expertise
of
40
years,
we
are
very
concerned,
after
speaking
with
many
people
in
the
condos
about
the
very
small
buffer
of
20
feet,
two
rows
of
tree
that
are
going
to
be
planted
at
four
feet
and
eventually
grow
to
10
feet
spill.
We
love
Asheville,
it's
green,
but
this
does
not
sound
or
appear
to
be
for
my
limited
review,
a
green
community.
O
I
am
concerned
as
a
speech
language
pathologist,
with
hearing
I,
wonder
what
the
extent
of
the
minimizing
Mr
Sugg
you
are
offering
for
the
noise
pollution,
the
noise
of
trucks,
construction,
how
you
plan
to
clear
the
trees
way
off
that
beautiful
mountain
and
what
your
intent
is
there
and
how
many
decibels
will
it
be
at
120
50?
What
will
that
be?
What
does
that
look
like?
Please
define
that
for
us.
O
An
additional
point:
the
architecture
on
the
renderings
that
you
have
shared
with
us
today
do
not
look
like
they
are
in
the
spirit
in
harmony
or
with
the
intent
of
surrounding
neighborhoods
I'm.
Sorry,
but
that
is
does
not
appear
to
be
the
fact.
Mr
Kessler
who's
a
national
developer
when
he
came
into
our
to
Asheville.
O
It
will
either
be
disrupted
or
certainly
destroyed,
with
bears
snakes
and
insects
with
no
place
to
go,
except
maybe
a
visit
to
Eastwood
Village
I
do
want
to
thank
you
I'd
like
you
to
consider
these
points
and
perhaps
delaying
your
vote
and
decision
on
this
project.
We
have
had
less
than
nine
days
to
respond
to
this.
We
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
hire
Council,
we
have
not
had
adequate
time
to
review
documents
and
we
do
not
have
ever
evidence
that
the
notices
were
delivered
to
people
so
I.
O
Thank
you
for
the
time
and
wish
the
other
talented
and
experienced
folks
to
be
able
to
share
as
well
today.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AE
She
kind
of
took
a
little
of
my
thunder
away,
but
oh
well,
all
the
major
developments
on
the
Charlotte
Highway
go
to
the
Charlotte
Highway.
They
do
not
access
June
sales,
Road,
Old,
Charlotte
Highway,
these
very
narrow
roads.
This
development,
if
it
were
to
go
through,
really,
should
go
to
the
Charlotte
Highway.
It
shouldn't
be
going
to
these
small
roads
and,
again
to
her
point.
You
need
to
drive
these
roads
and
it
is
a
one-lane
bridge,
one
other
fact:
FedEx
UPS
Postal
Service
all
go
right
to
save
gas,
their
main
development.
AE
AE
Somebody
I
believe
said
that
Eastwood
Village
is
a
private
road.
It
is
not
it's
public
all
the
way
up
to
the
apartments.
It's
public
roads,
all
of
our
side
streets
are
public
they're,
not
private
roads.
AE
I
know
that
question
came
up
on
the
study.
I
find
it
interesting
and
unusual
that
the
study
that
was
done.
The
traffic
study,
never
talked
about
gaseous
Creek.
None
of
the
images
even
showed
gash's
Creek,
even
existing,
which
will
be
on
the
opposite
of
the
June
Sales
Drive
and
that's
190
units,
but
yet
it
was
never
depicted
on
any
other
aerial
photographs
in
their
200-page
report.
AA
I
think
you're
already
sworn
in.
Oh,
yes,
thank
you,
I'm,
sorry
about
that
yeah!
Yes,
thank
you.
I
have
a
pre-recorded
video
that
I
made
sure
I'd
like
to
note
before
showing
it,
however,
that
since
I
submitted
it
yesterday
to
Jason
my
presentation,
materials
that
is
I
learned
today,
that
I
should
make
one
minor
correction
to
it,
as
I've
learned
that
the
traffic
study
did
take
place
when
school
was
in
session.
However,
there
are
other
issues
with
the
traffic
impact
analysis,
as
I
point
out
in
the
video
presentation.
B
How
sorry,
how
long
is
the
video
it's.
B
Okay,
and
is
there
a
way
to
stop
it
once
it's
going
to
the
extent
we're
getting
into
areas
that
would
be
objectionable.
B
In
advance
to
anything
that
gets
into
areas
of
expert
testimony
required
because
I
don't
know,
what's
going
to
be
in
the
video.
J
A
AA
Okay,
are
you
all
ready,
yes,
okay,
thank
you
and
I'm,
hoping
the
sound
will
be.
AA
I'm
presenting
on
reasons
to
deny
the
old
Charlotte
Highway
Duran
development
sup
in
variances,
I'll,
start
by
saying
that
one
of
our
concerns
was
the
number
of
big
answers.
The
developer
provided
regarding
important
aspects
about
the
proposed
development,
the
developer
and
its
representatives
were
unable
to
tell
us
about
other
housing
projects,
they're
doing
how
many
units
will
be
leased
versus
owned,
how
much
units
will
cost
and
so
on.
For
development
of
this
size,
especially
it's
important
that
we
know
the
developer
can
be
trusted
and
that
they
know
what
they're
doing.
AA
Another
issue
is
that
they
have
provided
what
appears
to
be
a
flawed
traffic
impact
analysis,
which
appears
to
have
failed
to
record
when
Buncombe
County
Schools
were
in
session.
When
we
experienced
very
heavy
traffic,
it
also
did
not
record
between
the
hours
of
2
and
4
pm
when
school
lets
out,
and
it
did
not
look
at
traffic
at
the
intersection
of
old,
Eastwood,
Village,
Boulevard
and
74a,
which
is
a
heavily
used
route
by
folks.
AA
Turning
right
out
of
Eastwood
Village,
it's
important
to
get
the
traffic
analysis
right,
because
this
is
a
area
that
is
very
heavily
dependent
on
cars.
A
serious
problem
that
the
traffic
impact
study
needs
to
examine
is
whether
tiny
roads
could
handle
this
massive
development.
These
are
views
of
Old
Charlotte
Highway,
which,
as
you
can
see,
is
very
narrow.
Imagine
this
tiny
Road
and
all
the
traffic
from
the
1300
people
of
this
development
and
their
cars,
plus
all
the
Amazon
delivery,
UPS
and
FedEx
trucks
that
come
with
such
a
massive
housing.
AA
Complex
I'd,
also
like
to
point
out.
The
development's
entrances
are
in
areas
that
could
receive
significant
flooding
during
heavy
rains
and
flash
floods
on
the
little
roads
that
surround
the
property.
This
is
a
map
from
realtor.com
that
lets
potential
home
buyers
know
what
kind
of
flooding
risks
they're
in
for
when
they're
looking
at
a
potential
property
having
significant
flooding
that
affects
both
entrances
of
the
development
raises
serious
concerns
about
how
those
1300
residents
would
receive
help
during
periods
of
flooding
and
in
Buncombe
County
flooding
is
not
a
matter
of
if,
but
when.
AA
The
developer
plans
to
place
hundreds
of
cookie
cutter
units
and
four
towering
Apartments,
as
well
as
12,
retaining
walls
between
5
and
20
feet,
high
and
buildings
up
to
50
feet
tall.
This
is
a
dangerous
disturbance
of
land
and
storm
water
systems,
especially
when
you
consider
all
the
clear
cutting
going
on.
AA
This
is
also
a
rough
before
and
after
of
the
area,
this
is
little
Cedar
Mountain
before,
and
this
is
roughly
what
it
would
look
like
with
all
of
this
imposed
on
top
of
it.
Another
very
concerning
issue
from
this
scale,
and
this
type
of
development
is
the
increased
risks
of
landslides
and
flooding.
These
are
issues
that
we're
already
experiencing
next
door.
At
Eastwood,
Village
we've
had
a
number
of
issues:
the
2015
Landslide
2020
drainage
work.
We've
noticed
the
pond
overflow
runoff
issues
in
Spring
2021.
AA
You
may
be
thinking
well,
it's
just
too
bad
for
homeowners.
They
just
need
to
buy
Landslide
insurance.
Actually,
this
is
not
an
option.
I
looked
into
it
and
our
State
Farm
Insurance
agent
said
that
outside
of
California,
it's
just
not
possible
to
buy
Landslide
insurance.
Also
worth
pointing
out
is
that
if
you
look
at
the
County's
planning
staff
comments,
there's
a
lot
of
critical
information
lacking
about
how
much
drainage
will
be
shifted
and
where
and
how
it
will
affect
the
folks
down
below
and
what's
the
capacity
of
the
infrastructure
to
handle
it.
AA
All
of
this
adds
up
to
placing
a
burden
on
neighboring
property
owners,
and
you
have
to
think
if
it
happens
in
Eastwood
Village.
Imagine
how
much
worse
it
will
be
in
a
complex
of
this
size.
Perhaps
one
of
the
most
alarming
issues
is
that
the
development
would
bring
nearly
1300
people
to
this
spot,
which
is
like
bringing
more
people
than
live
in
Columbus
North
Carolina,
more
than
Highlands
North
Carolina,
almost
all
the
people
in
Blowing,
Rock
or
Bryson
City
three
times
the
population
of
hot
springs
and
two
times
the
population
of
Marshall
or
Saluda.
AA
AA
It's
not
an
urban
center
little
Cedar
Mountain
is
a
mountain
that
supports
all
kinds
of
wildlife,
Birds,
insects,
pollinators
trees,
so
many
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
sustain
life
and
things
that
support
our
local
Agriculture
and
food
production
like
what
is
needed
on
our
nearby
Farms,
not
to
mention
this
is
a
beloved
Place
among
locals
for
walking
and
even
rock
climbing
what
the
scale
and
type
of
development
they're
proposing.
We
would
suffer
tremendous
losses,
and
many
of
these
things
are
hard
to
put
a
dollar
amount
on
I.
AA
Think
we
all
know
by
now
that
trees
and
green
space
play
an
invaluable
role
in
our
safety
and
our
economic
as
well
as
physical
well-being.
This
property
is
perfect
for
a
conservation
easement,
and
yet
the
developer
is
choosing
to
clear-cut,
wiping
out
thousands
of
tall
mature
trees,
and
you
know
when
you
think
about
it.
Things
like
trees
and
conservation,
easements
shouldn't
just
be
a
thing
for
luxury
housing
developments
and
I
know.
AA
The
developer
will
tell
you
that
they
can
clear
cut
they're
permitted
to
clear-cut
they're
permitted
to
build
this
many
units
and
more,
but
just
because
we
can
doesn't
mean
we
should
size
of
this
development
would
also
place
a
significant
new
strain
on
our
Water
Resources.
Our
water
infrastructure
clearly
has
serious
issues.
AA
Another
issue
is
that
these
units
will
likely
be
too
expensive
for
many
Buncombe
County
locals,
but
they'll
be
priced
right
for
many
out-of-town
investors,
which
our
area
is
seeing.
More
and
more
of
we
hear
countless
stories
of
folks
coming
in
from
other
areas,
other
states
making
all
cash
offers
on
properties,
which
they
often
then
use
as
second
homes
or
short-term
rentals.
AA
As
a
result
of
all
these
things,
this
type
of
development
May
create
a
situation
where
we
Buncombe
County
residents,
put
the
bill
for
the
development
and,
in
fact,
we've
seen
this
too
many
times
before
the
Appalachian
region
has
long
has
a
long
history
of
being
exploited.
So,
let's
make
sure
any
development
benefits
us
as
much
as
it
does
the
developer.
Let's
also
honor
our
commitment
as
a
weather-ready
nation
Ambassador
and
our
commitment
to
strengthening
our
resilience.
If
we
truly
care
about
resilience,
then
we
can
allow
this
kind
of
development
on
this
location.
AA
The
great
news
is
that
good
development
is
possible
and
it's
happening
already
right
here
in
Buncombe
County.
This
is
just
one
example.
I
mean
look
at
all
that
green
space.
This
is
clearly
a
developer.
Who
cares
about
his
impact
on
the
community?
Wrap
up
I'd.
Ask
you
all
to
very
carefully
consider
the
numerous
reasons
to
deny
this
development,
the
sup
and
variances
it's
requesting.
Thank
you
all.
For
your
time,
your
work
and
your
thoughtfulness.
D
AF
AF
Welcome
thanks
for
having
me
Council,
I'm,
Jared,
weedley,
I'm,
a
local
Construction,
Company
owner
and
real
estate
developer
also
happen
to
be
a
citizen
of
the
Cherokee
Nation,
so
I
know
well
about
land
exploitation
in
Western,
North,
Carolina
and
its
history,
and
just
wanted
to
speak
up
a
little
bit.
I
also
have
a
master's
degree
in
Economic
Development,
that's
an
MS,
not
an
M.A,
and
what
we've
heard
a
lot
about
is
potential
negative
externalities
to
this
project.
AF
And
what
I'd
like
to
bring
up
are
some
potential
positive
externalities.
So
we
heard
about
affordable
housing.
A
little
bit
Asheville
is
well
documented,
has
been
the
most
expensive
place
to
rent
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina,
and
we've
heard
about
the
missing
middle
as
far
as
housing
goes,
which
is
right
in
the
Wheelhouse
of
Apartments
duplexes
semi-detached
adus.
All
of
these
things
fall
into
taking
care
of
the
missing
metal.
AF
What
we
see
here
is
an
attempt
to
increase
the
supply
of
rental
properties
for
the
citizens
of
Asheville
and
which
this
property
falls
with
inside
the
MSA
of
Asheville,
which
is
currently
generating
about
8
000
jobs
a
year
so
with
the
real
estate
Association
of
the
United
States
states
that
we're
housing
burdened
we're
not
meeting
the
housing
Demand
on
a
yearly
basis,
based
on
the
number
of
permits
being
released
for
the
number
of
housing
units
required
so
every
day
we're
actually
backtracking.
AF
So
just
wanted
to
basically
step
up
and
take
into
account
that
while
there
may
be
on
a
single
lane
bridge,
you
know
added
tax
dollars
going
towards
Bridge,
Improvement
or
infrastructure.
Improvement,
there's
also
going
to
be
an
added
tax
base
and
employees
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
find
housing
closer
to
their
work
and
along
a
corridor
that
allows
quick
Transit
from
Fairview
into
Asheville.
AF
So
that's
really
all
I
had
for
my
piece:
I'm
not
trying
to
be
what
called
in
as
as
a
formal
witness
or
whatever,
but
I
wanted
to
make.
It
stated
that
as
a
citizen
here,
I
actually
like
the
development
and
I,
think
it's
a
big
ad
and
it's
going
to
allow
Housing
Opportunity.
AG
AG
I've
been
at
Eastwood
Village,
oh,
it's.
Actually.
The
second
person
who
moved
into
the
condos
and
I
probably
should
not
be
admitting
this
in
this
type
of
situation,
but
Mr
Bailey
I
have
hiked
your
your
land,
probably
more
than
I
should
admit,
and
I
do
apologize
for
that,
but
it
is
gorgeous.
AG
It
is
just
thank
you
giving
us
access
to
that
has
been
such
a
gift.
Just
because
you
can
build,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
you
should
everything
that
you
all
have
said.
I'm
not
going
to
say
it's,
not
a
beautiful
property.
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
wonderful.
Is
there
a
need?
Possibly
is
the
need
in
that
location?
AG
Is
that
the
right
place
to
build?
You
know
it's
I
had
some
conversations
in
the
summer
with
the
southern
Appalachian
Highway
Conservancy,
about
that
land
and
I
talked
to
them
about
what
we
could
do
to
put
that
into
a
Conservancy.
AG
As
everyone
has
said,
it's
when
you
look
at
a
map
of
this
this
part
of
the
county
that
is
about
the
only
undeveloped
plot
of
land.
That's
left
between
20
240
I'm,
not
an
expert
on
map
Reading.
So
don't
hold
me
accountable
through
all
of
this,
but
it
appears
to
me
when
I
look
at
it,
that
from
240
heading
up
to
past
the
turn
off
the
Cane
Creek,
there
is
very,
very
little
land.
That's
not
developed,
that's
what
Asheville
is
about
that's
what
bucket
county
is
about.
AG
It's
an
is
the
beauty
of
the
mountains
and
the
beauty
of
of
the
landscape
and
we're
already
seeing
such
an
impact.
So
I
just
asked
for
you
all
to
really
consider
what
you
want
the
message
to
be
to
the
residents
of
of
Buncombe
County.
How
you
want
yes,
tax
base
is
wonderful,
but
also
think
of
how
you're
caring
for
the
residents
and
what
you
can
do
to
care
for
the
residents,
whoever
and
whatever
there's
the
residence
happen
to
be
and
I
think.
AG
This
is
a
prime
example
to
look
at,
maybe
changing
the
scope,
maybe
seeing
if
we
can
do
something
to
put
some
of
it
in
Conservancy,
something
to
really
change
that
and
have
that
as
a
gift
to
the
residents
that
it's
been
a
gift
for
those
of
us
at
Eastward
Village.
For
so
long,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Z
Z
Z
Welcome.
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
David.
Moritz
I've
lived
in
Asheville
for
10
years.
I
have
a
bachelor's
in
mechanical
engineering,
from
University
of
Maryland.
I
have
a
master's
in
real
estate
from
Columbia
and
I'm
a
local
developer
here
in
Asheville
I,
don't
have
any
affiliation
with
the
applicant
I,
don't
know
them
in
fact.
I've
never
met
them
before
I'm,
simply
here
as
an
advocate
for
more
housing
in
Asheville
as
a
developer.
Here,
I'm
very
well
aware
of
the
lack
of
housing
that
we
have
here
and
I
think
it's
an
issue.
Z
That's
going
to
get
worse
and
worse,
that's
spilling
off
into
service
workers,
not
finding
places
to
to
live
and
spilling
all
the
way
over
into
homelessness.
These
are
two
things
I'd
like
to
address,
so
basically
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
project.
Z
Coincidentally
and
I
was
not
aware
of
this
before,
but
the
project
that
was
showing
up
there
craggy
Park
is
my
project,
the
one
that
was
shown
as
an
example
of
good
green
development
in
Asheville.
To
give
you
an
idea
of
the
struggles
that
developers
go
through,
that
project
was
started
in
2004
that
we
started
the
approval
process,
there's
45
homes
that
need
to
be
built
there.
So
far,
we've
built
about
20..
Z
We
still
have
about
20
more
to
build
it's
a
challenge
as
a
developer,
and
you
know:
I
see
myself
as
a
green
developer,
I'm
an
award-winning
developer
for
green
development.
My
next
developments
are
going
to
be
micro,
housing,
downtown
because
I
think
there's
a
dire
need
for
housing
in
an
Asheville
of
all
types.
Z
One
of
the
things
about
the
zoning
in
Asheville
I
know
this
is
the
county,
but
in
the
city
proper
80
percent
of
the
residential
zoning
is
single
family,
which,
historically
and
quoted
by
the
city
itself,
is
a
discriminator,
discriminatory
form
of
zoning,
and
that
seems
to
be
the
zoning
that
we're
stuck
with
in
the
city
and
why
so
much
of
the
multi-family
development
is
being
pushed
into
the
county.
You
barely
see
any
multi-family
development
being
done
in
the
city.
It's
very
expensive,
and
so
Asheville
is
one
of
the
worst
places
in
terms
of
housing
availability.
Z
Housing
is
very
needed.
Jared
mentioned
one
of
the
recent
data
points
of
Asheville.
Msa
has
created
8
500
jobs,
but
only
4
000
permits
were
done
of
those
about
3
000
were
single
families
so,
and
that
includes
the
Hendersonville
area,
we're
really
lacking
in
in
in
multi-family
development,
and
we
need
housing,
I
kind
of
say
it's
like.
Oh,
wouldn't
it
be
great
if
the
city
and
the
county
had
selected
areas
that
were
approved
for
development
ahead
of
time.
Well,
actually,
that's
what
we
did
a
while
back.
That's
the
zoning
we
did.
Z
So
I
I
mean
I
like
I
live
here
because
of
the
green
space.
I
agree
with
many
people
and
and
I
understand,
I
mean
generally.
Whenever
there's
a
development
proposed,
it
will
affect
the
neighbors
but
I
think
what's
important
to
remember
as
the
County
Commissioners.
Your
job
is
to
do
what's
best
for
the
community
and
what
the
community
needs
now.
Desperately
is
housing
and
if
you
look
at
one
another
problem,
I
want
to
bring
up
is
homelessness
and
I'm.
Reading
a
book
homelessness
is
a
housing
problem.
Z
Z
Z
Z
We
want
to
protect
our
green
space,
but
in
Asheville
we
have
the
benefit
of
having
three
half
a
million
Acres
Federal
protected
lands,
Pisgah
Forest,
a
Great
Smoky
Mountain,
National,
Park
and
I.
Think
nathahalla
and
and
as
one
person
said
recently,
the
state
bought
1300
acres
is
a
good
view
that
they're
going
to
turn
into
National
Park.
So
there's
definitely
space
for
that
to
happen,
however,
this
piece
of
land
is
privately
owned
and
the
county
had
already
determined
by
its
zoning
that
it
would
accept
high
density
development,
which
is
clearly
needed
by
the
county.
Z
By
the
way,
Asheville's
homelessness
statistic
is
seven
per
thousand,
which
is
in
line
with
Atlanta,
but
a
place
like
Charlotte
and
I'll.
Read
you
a
quote
in
the
book
and
I
know
some
people
have
problems
with
the
way
the
architecture
looks,
but
that's
subjective,
says
right
here:
Charlotte,
for
example,
has
grown
as
fast
as
San,
Francisco
and
Seattle,
but
because
of
a
relatively
robust
housing
Supply
response,
the
city
has
not
faced
the
housing
shortages
that
plagued
many
other
cities.
Z
You
can
see
that
by
going
to
Charlotte,
but
here
we're
sitting
here
trying
to
reduce
the
development.
In
fact,
one
of
the
problems
that
we're
having
with
our
project
is
costs
have
gone
up
significantly
almost
double.
When
we
started,
we
may
not
even
be
able
to
build
what
we're
trying
to
do
downtown
and
right
now,
we've
got
a
severe
housing
short
shortage.
Z
This
location
in
particular
I,
understand
everybody
has
their
points
of
view.
What
it
may
or
may
not
be,
but
the
point
is
it's
a
private
piece
of
property,
it's
10
minutes
from
this
location
by
car,
it's
across
the
street
from
Ingles.
It's
it's
right
near
the
the
the
high
school.
So
if
not
there,
where
are
you
going
to
build
the
housing
that
Asheville
desperately
needed?
I'd
like
to
know
where
we're
going
to
build
that
housing?
So
in
conclusion,
I
just
think
we
desperately
need
housing.
Z
This
project
seems
reasonable
is
consistent
with
what
was
done
next
door.
I
mean
I'd
like
to
understand
the
approval
process
of
the
project
that
these
people
live
in.
It's
it's
almost
identical
and
yet
they're
very
happy
living
there.
How
would
they
have
felt
I
mean
and
they're
going
to
build
500
units?
Where
are
those
people
going
to
live?
If
this
is
not
built,
it's
going
to
squeeze
it's
going
to
create
more
pressure.
Z
Very
I'm
very
passionate
about
this,
because
I'm
trying
to
address
it
personally,
myself
and
I
think
that
we
just
need
to
get
more
housing
and
and
the
board
when
you
decide
your
vote,
I
understand
that
neighbors
have
a
say
and
they
should
be
heard
and
there
should
be
meetings
and
they
should
provide
their
input,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
they
don't
have
a
vote.
Z
AH
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
hearing
me.
I
was
not
going
to
speak.
I
hope
you
can
hear
me.
Cyberbully
stop
Voice,
just
very
quickly.
I
do
want
to
thank
Mr.
Bailey
I
have
never
met
him.
I've
seen
him.
AH
I
just
want
to
applaud
him
because
he's
let
us
all
use
this
land
and
it's
been
wonderful
it.
It
has,
and
his
land
and
Mr
Butt
sales
who
recently
passed
wonderful
land-
and
you
know
at
some
point
we'll
be
developed
and
I
guess
I
would
love
it
not
to
be
developed.
I
work
in
commercial
for
a
bank,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
all
of
this,
but
briefly
I.
AH
I
really
think
this
should
be
moved
to
not
make
a
decision
today
on
both
sides,
I
mean
the
gentleman
that
just
spoke.
I
get
the
whole
thing
about
housing
it'd
be
great
if
it
was
affordable,
it'd
be
great
if
it
was
less
units,
but
after
the
whole
study
that
was
done,
I
guess
it
should
be
a
thousand
units.
I
don't
agree,
but
I
have
no
proof,
but
I
do
think.
AH
There
are
a
lot
of
sides
here,
a
lot
of
information
that
really
needs
to
be
reviewed,
whether
it
is
to
build
or
not
to
build
and
I
hope
that
you
do
take
this
into
account.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
that
we're
gone
for
holidays
and
are
not
here
can't
be
here,
but
just
if
you
wait
to
make
the
decision
and
move
it
forward
to
another
time
where
you
can
investigate
what
the
gentleman
said
about
housing
and
also
maybe
about
not
building,
but
again,
it
is
private
land,
it's
Mr,
Bailey's,
land
and
I.
A
You
so
much
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
portion.
We
have
eight
minutes
left
in
this
in
today's
meeting,
so
I
want
to
ask
the
sure.
Let
me
ask
the
board:
does
the
board
wish
to
hear
from
other
Witnesses
today
or
push
or
which
would
require
us
to
push
the
vote
on
this
project
to
to
the
next
meeting
or
close
the
public
hearing
portion?
How.
A
X
Credit
put
in
mind
and
while
I'm
waiting
since
Jared
pointed
out,
he
has
the
name
of
us
I'd
like
to
thank
that
my
degree
degree
is
a
master
of
science
and
my
wife
Ashley
has
both
a
master
of
science
and
a
master
of
arts.
So
she
had
to
do
that
to
prove
she
was
smarter
than.
X
And
I'll
start
well.
Jason
is
doing
this
rather
than
giving
my
entire
presentation
of
I
have
sat
in
your
seat
or
watched
boards
like
you
worked
for
a
long
time
and
can
read
them.
I
have
no
doubt
this
development
will
be
approved.
I'm
going
to
ask
for
some
conditions.
I
would
also
like
to
clear
up
that
missing
metal
is
usually
considered.
Small
scale
multifamily,
but
it's
built
in
an
area
that
is
predominantly
single
family
or
between
single
family
and
higher
density
like
these
apartments.
X
What
I'm
going
to
do
is
go
straight
to
a
couple
of
things.
One
of
the
requirements
for
a
height,
a
variance
on
the
height,
is
that
the
zoning
that
the
property
has
characteristics
that
are
unique
in
that
zoning
District.
The
applicant
has
pointed
out
that
Topography
is
a
reason,
but,
looking
at
this,
you
can
see
that
the
Topo
is
very
similar
on
this
property
and
actually
a
bit
flatter
than
the
surrounding
properties.
The
question
to
be
asked
is
probably
what
was
property
worth.
X
It
average
grade
a
20,
zoned
R3
for
high
density,
and
that's
a
that's
been
done,
but
that's
a
question
that
came
up
in
my
mind,
I
think
a
creative
approach
to
this
development
would
be
good
one
that
would
maybe
consider
the
undeveloped
undevelopable
part
of
the
conservation
easement
working
with
the
Southern
Southern
Highlands
land
Conservatory
or
another
Land
Conservancy,
and
getting
tax
credits
either
for
the
developer
or
the
current
property
owner.
It's.
I
X
A
bit
more
creative
and
thinking
out
outside
of
the
box
would
do
a
lot
of
good
on
this.
Another
thing
that
the
applicant
has
stated
is
that
the
Landscaping
I'm
not
going
would
be
a
primary
asset
and
they
proposed
scraping
away
all
the
existing
trees
and
doing
a
20-foot
wide
buffer
of
monoculture,
one
type
of
Evergreen
likely
that's
susceptible
to
disease
and
pest
infestation.
That
was
considered
a
non-desirable
bar
buffer
in
the
last
early
in
the
last
decade
of
the
last
century.
X
So
what
we
were,
what
the
request
is
that
the
perimeter
be
designated
to
not
do
not
disturb
the
area
allowing
the
existing
vegetation
to
serve
as
a
buffer,
and
this
is
a
shot
from
about
20
feet.
25
feet
within
the
subject:
property
with
the
East
Eastwood
Village
Boulevard,
on
the
barely
visibles
of
the
existing
sharbury
trees.
Even
and
the
winter
provide
an
adequate
buffer.
X
The
preserving
trees
within
the
development
can
be
a
NASA.
Those
is
our
house
that
shows
the
front
of
the
house
where
some
of
the
pine
trees
that
were
remained
in
a
wooded
area
behind
that
was
remained
through
creative
land
planning
and
basically,
what
we
would
like
to
request
is
that
require
all
information
in
the
application
that's
required
in
the
Buncombe
County
zoning
ordinance.
X
If
you
read
my
report,
you'll
see,
there
are
several
items
that
were
not
included
that
are
mandated
by
the
zoning
ordinance
require
the
data
that
is
required
to
evaluate
the
stormwater
variance
request
carefully,
consider
the
request
for
Building
height
variants
to
ensure
that
it
meets
the
requirements
set
forth
in
the
zoning
ordinance
preserve
a
25
foot,
non-disturbed
area
around
the
perimeter
of
the
property
require
a
landscaping
plan
and
they've
talked
a
lot
about
pedestrian
access.
The
recreation
areas
within
the
project,
the
rendering
showed
sidewalks
in
front
of
the
buildings,
but
there's
no
pedestrian
plan.
X
A
Comments
questions.
Thank
you,
sir.
So
much
thank
you
and
was
there
one
more
hand
earlier
on
the
witness
witness
question
anyone
else
for
a
witness
comment.
Y
Yes,
so
my
name
is
Colleen
Finnegan,
okay,
I'm,
the
secretary
of
the
board
of
the
Eastwood
Village,
oh
and
I'm,
the
one
who
was
griping
about
nobody
talking
loud,
sorry,
I'm,
the
secretary
of
the
board
of
Directors
for
the
Eastwood
Village
Property,
Owners
Association.
And
yes,
we
did
equally
vote
on
on
having
Miss
Ashley
back
there.
Be
our
representative
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
now.
Y
The
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
support
very
quickly
was
the
idea
that
not
a
lot
of
us
got
this
information
and
ahead
of
time
and
as
the
secretary
I'm
aware
of
the
fact
that
15
out
of
the
49
people
who
live
in
the
single
family
residences
use
our
area
as
a
single
as
a
second
home
which
to
me
means
that
many
of
them
we're
probably
not
there
for
the
Christmas.
When
all
this
information
came
through,
okay
and
I
just
wanted
that
to
be
known
and
I.
Y
Do
you
know
acknowledge
the
fact
that
you
all
did
a
good
job
of
sending
out
the
information.
But
you
know
if
you've
got
grandkids
and
kids
and
everybody
else
you're
not
necessarily
reading
every
detail
of
that
during
the
holidays,
and
so
I
am
saying
this
to
again
support
the
fact
that
you
give
us
more
time,
okay
to
work
with
the
people
that
propose
this
and
also
our
condos.
We
have
apartments
and
we
have
single
family
units
and
I
know
a
lot
more.
Y
B
Just
very
quickly,
I
agreed
with
every
single
thing
that
Mr
Moritz
said
about
our
housing
market
and
the
need
for
this,
and
the
quality
of
this
product
having
a
master
plan
allows
for
Consolidated
open
space,
and
we
have
heard
complaints
from
folks
in
a
neighborhood
that
is
very
much
like,
what's
being
proposed,
with
much
less
open
space
with
a
higher
density
count
and,
in
all
other
respects,
looks
a
lot
alike
except
we've
got
a
better
storm
Hunter
plan.
We
think
that
will
also
happen
to
to
help
them.
B
The
one
thing
I
did
not
agree
with
Mr
Moritz
about
is:
is
that
it's
up
to
you
to
vote
on
this
and
up
and
down?
In
this
instance,
we
have
a
board
of
adjustment,
and
this
board
of
adjustment
considers
special
use
permit
since
PUD
requirements.
We
go
through
carefully
to
make
sure
that
we
present
you
with
the
evidential
requirements
through
qualified
competent
material
evidence
through
expert
testimony.
We've
done
that
to
hit
every
single
element,
that's
in
the
sup
requirements
and
the
p
UD
requirements
and
there's
been
zero
rebuttal
evidence,
there's
no
rebuttal
evidence
whatsoever.
B
We
think
that
we've
made
our
case.
It
would
ask
you
to
approve
it
today:
we've
been
very
patient,
allowing
the
Witnesses
in
objectionable
testimony
areas
to
give
everything
they
wanted
to
say.
We
did
that
as
an
accommodation,
and
we
appreciate
us
getting
through
this
today
and
getting
a
vote.
Thank
you
very
much.
Q
I
would
say:
well,
I,
don't
think
this
is
going
to
win
any
popularity
contest
when
I'm
reviewing
this
reflecting
on
the
standards
that
we
have
before
us
for
for
approval.
They
check
the
boxes
again.
Q
L
Okay,
yeah
I'd
agree
with
that.
I
think
it's
it
is.
We've
talked
about
this
on
numerous
numerous
meetings.
This
is
not
the
first
time
this
has
come
up,
and
you
know
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
board.
We
are
not
a
legislative
body,
we
don't
get
to
you.
We
take
very
strict
facts
and
evidence
and
present
them
and
if
they
meet
the
bar,
they
meet
the
bar
and
I
believe
that
the
applicant
is
met
that,
based
on
the
based
on
the
requirements
set
forth
in
the
County
ordinance
and
what
the
board
of
adjustments
is
charged
to
do.
N
A
Think
the
application
and
the
the
presentation
was
very
thorough
on
this
project
and
it's
striking
almost
how
similar
this
is
to
the
neighboring
property
has
been
discussed
and,
of
course,
the
property
to
two
properties
up,
that's
very
similar
as
well.
So
it's
it's
right
in
line
with
that,
and
perhaps
when
those
were
approved
back
in
the
day,
they
didn't
have
the
same:
strict
scrutiny
on
the
on
the
storm
water
issue
that
we
have
today
and
thoughtful
plan
submitted
by
the
developer.
Q
Q
A
So
many
times
we
we
see,
requests
come
through
for
large
projects
and
we
think
shouldn't
this
be
signalized
shouldn't
this
be
shouldn't.
This
traffic
analysis
show
there
should
be
changes
here
and
we
don't
see
those
come
through
and
we
did
it
this
time
and
that's
encouraging
to
me
that
that
something's
going
to
be
done
about
that
potential
possession.
K
In
my
own
comments,
well,
first
of
all
thank
you
for
reducing
the
height
in
a
similar
situation.
Someone
told
me
need
of
50
feet
for
the
snow,
low.
Okay,
the
other
thing
too,
is
you
know:
I
still
have
issues
regarding
the
traffic
analysis
and
the
single
lane
bridge,
because
I've
seen
a
fight-
and
this
is
before
my
time
between
homeowners
developers
in
the
state
over
a
single
lane
bridge.
K
The
other
thing,
too,
is
the
general
brought
up
about
the
homeless
situation.
Atlantic
Monthly
did
a
very
good
article
and
I'm
sure
references
his
book
and
I
fully
understand
that
too.
Now,
as
a
public
service
announcement,
most
of
you
may
know
that
the
counties
coming
up
with
a
draft
comprehensive
plan
and
I
believe
that
draft
will
be
out
soon
and
they'll.
You
have
an
opportunity
to
comment,
there's
been
open
houses
and
the
result
of
the
draft
plan
or
one
is
finalized.
K
C
You
know
I
think
the
the
water
issue
you
know
I
know:
Mr
Harrison
spoke
to
the
the
bridge
in
the
situation
there
with
his
I
know,
that's
one
of
the
things
that
everybody
is
trying
to
address.
That's
not
our
job
to
address
that,
but
I
know
the
County's
very
aware
of
the
water
stuff,
the
water
flow
and
storm
water,
so
I
know
they're
working
on
addressing
that
and
I
think
the
green
space
on
this
one.
C
You
know
with
the
steep
slope
and
the
other
ordinances
are
present,
preserving
I,
think
somewhere
around
48
Acres
towards
the
top
of
the
mountain
here
to
protect
that
and
the
density
is
lower
again.
The
traffic
is
out
of
our
jurisdiction
as
far
as
the
details
of
the
traffic,
that's
really
with
the
state,
and
we
can't
comment
on
that
side.
Really.
C
That's
that's
out
of
our
area
here
to
deal
with
so
I
do
hear
the
concerns
about
traffic
and
the
roads,
but
we
thank
you
for
all
the
comments
and
we
thank
you
for
the
applicant
for
doing
a
thorough
job
today.
I
Q
W
Real
quick
point
of
order:
yes,
can
we
get
them
yeah
so
just
to
make
it
clear
to
the
audience
and
everyone
height
limitations
is
not
a
variance,
that's
something
that
allows
flexibility
through
the
planned
unit,
development
process,
you're.
A
C
AF
E
Have
the
appraisers
report?
We
have
the
DOT
final
decision,
we
have
pictures
of
the
intersection
dated
5
18
2022.
E
L
Is
there
any
evidence
that
we
would
exclude
or
object
to
that
was,
do
that
I
think
that's
probably
going
to
cover
us
better.
It's
just
a
blanket
State,
a
blanket
statement.
All
materials
presented
during
The
Testament.
E
Yeah,
that's
fine,
I
I
think
that
we
would
probably
and
I'm
sure
my
Mr
Allen
would
probably
have
some
objections
to
some
of
the
things
in
the
video.
B
And
we
noted
those
and
and
we'll
rely
on
our
objections
that
we
noted
to
those
errors
that
would
grow
expert
testimony
I
think
we're
covered
on
the
record.
There.
E
C
All
right,
like
the
list,
yeah
right,
so
a
motion
to
adopt
findings
of
fact
and
approval.
Mr
chair,
based
on
the
evidence
presented
to
this
board
today,
including
the
following,
exhibits:
the
petitioner
application,
the
submitted
development
plan,
the
GIS
maps,
the
staff
report,
testimony
presentations
at
the
hearing
and
Appraisal
reports,
dot,
presentation,
pictures
of
the
intersections
site,
maps
of
the
property,
renderings
and
videos,
and
any
other
items
that
were
presented
today.
C
I
moved
the
board
to
adopt
the
following
findings.
In
fact
that
this
matter
does
properly
advertised
and
within
this
board's
jurisdiction.
It
is
right
for
its
consideration
that
this
application,
together
with
its
conditions,
proposed
by
the
staff
or
its
board
and
agreed
by
the
applicant
and
if
any
and
if
any
it,
does
meet
the
requirements
of
granting
a
special
use
permit
contained
in
the
Buncombe
County
code
of
ordinances.
In
section
78-621-3,
there.
A
C
Q
L
Mr,
chair
I'll,
make
a
motion
a
motion
to
approve
this
special
use
permit,
but
based
on
the
foregoing
findings
of
fact,
and
for
the
reason
set
forth
therein,
I
mean
that
this
requested
special
use
permit
be
approved
and
that
the
order
approving
the
permit
be
adopted
and
executed
is
presented
and
is
modified.
In
this
meeting.
A
A
That
motion
passes
a
simple
majority.
We
will
now
ask
staff
if
they
need
a
few
minutes
on
the
order,
preparation.
E
Do
you
yeah,
do
you
want
to
do
that?
I'm
assuming
I,
know
that
we're
time
time
based
do
you
want
to
I
think
we
can
get
through
it
if
you'd
like
to
get
through
it
I.
A
We'll
keep
order
in
the
room
if
we
can.
Thank
you
we'll
keep
order
in
the
room.
If
you
will
side
conversations,
please
there's
a
final
item
on
our
agenda
to
discuss
whether
we
want
to
continue
or
that
item
or
to
go
before
with
it
today.
L
Mr
chair
I'll,
move
that
we
move
Prestige
Subaru
sup
2022034
to
the
next
meeting
or
available
slot.
A
As
we
work
on
that
order,
preparation,
let's
discuss
Prestige
case
real
quick,
but
we
proceed
with
that
or
move
forward.
We've
got
a
motion
here
to
continue
it,
let's
hear
from
the
applicant
on
whether
they
agree
to
that
or
whether
they
would
be
ready
next
month.
Knowing
that
they've
sat
here
for
quite
a
while
amid
patient,
we
appreciate
that.
W
S
I'm
Ryan
Fisher
with
the
applicant
or
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
but
if
possible
we
could
be
heard
today.
That
would
be
great,
but
I
understand
it's
been
a
long
day.
A
Okay,
do
y'all
have
is
something
going
to
be
held
up
besides
continuing
with
your
plans,
if
we
continue
it
a
month.
L
Well,
we've
established
some
pretty
pretty
rigid
time
rules
for
this
meeting
yeah
because
we
all
are
a
volunteer
board.
We
could
be
here
all
night
if
we.
A
We
have
been
here
all
night
yeah
so
with
with
your
Indulgence
and
understanding.
We'll
continue
with
that
motion.
We've
got
a
motion
to
continue
case
number.
Excuse
me:
zph,
20220034,
Prestige,
Subaru,
special
use
permit
to
the
February
regular
meeting
as
a
motion
is
our
second
second
also
very,
please
say
aye
aye
any
of
your
hosts
eyes
have
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
Foreign
members
of
the
board,
we
have
here
a
application
for
a
special
use
permit
to
establish
a
plan,
use
development
for
516
residential,
develop
person,
development
or
proper
development.
E
At
the
aforementioned
pins,
the
board,
having
considered
the
that
we
have
the
development
plan,
the
GIS
maps
staff
report,
testimony
presented
the
dot
decision,
application,
site
plan,
renderings
appraisal
report,
Miss,
Green's,
video
and
arguments
Advanced
by
the
party.
The
board
finds
the
following
of
facts:
number
one
that
the
board
that
it
was
properly
noticed
and
bordeaux's
jurisdiction.
The
application
for
the
special
use
permit
the
application
and
all
other
parties
was
standing.
We're
giving
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
hearing.
E
E
Two
that
the
density
is
consistent
with
the
intent
of
the
district
which
it
is
located
and
confirms,
conforms
to
the
permitted
permitted
in
the
district
which
the
development
is
located,
that
land
uses
are
compatible
with
and
do
not
violate
the
intent
of
the
zoning
district
and
do
not
disrupt
the
character
of
the
community.
The
proposed
land
use
meets
the
minimum
requirements
for
land
use
as
follows:
the
minimum
lot
size
and
requirements
for
interior
setbacks
does
preserve
the
spirit
and
intent
of
this
section
and
does
comply
with
the
density
requirements
for
the
zoning
district.
E
With
respect
to
the
total
development
plan,
the
proposed
height
set
forth
in
the
application
does
comply
with
the
spirit
and
intent
of
this
section.
With
respect
to
the
total
development
plan,
the
board
finds
that
the
minimum
distance
between
buildings
will
not
will
I'm
sorry
will
ensure
adequate
air
light
privacy
and
space
for
emergency
vehicles.
E
E
The
unit
ownership
Act
this
board
finds
that
the
building
envelopes
are
shown
in
submitted
plans
and
depict
the
minimum
maximum
expanse
of
the
proposed
footprint
of
the
structure
that,
pursuant
to
78
677
G
of
the
zoning
ordinance
that
this
is
satisfactory,
that
the
proposed
use
will
will
not
adversely
affect
the
health
or
safety
of
persons
residing
or
working
in.
The
neighborhood
of
the
proposed
use.
The
proposed
use
will
not
be
detrimental
to
the
welfare
or
injuries
to
the
property
or
public
improvements
in
the
neighborhood.
E
E
Hours
of
operation
with
particular
reference
to
protecting
and
maintaining
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
are
acceptable
that
the
following
conditions
are
necessary
to
ensure
that
the
proposed
special
use
will
conform
to
the
requirements
of
the
zoning
ordinance
I'm
not
going
to
run
through,
but
these
are
staffs
conditions
on
the
property,
one
that
so
they
still
need
to
get
all
these
permits
before
they
will
be
issued.
A
special
use
permit
and
they've,
and
the
developer
has
agreed
to
them.
E
The
applicant
must
agree
in
writing
to
these
conditions
conclusions
a
law
based
on
the
foregoing
findings.
The
fact
the
board
makes
the
following
conclusions
that
the
application
applicants
request
for
a
special
use
permit,
together
with
the
imposition
of
the
conditions
found
necessary
above
which
are
Incorporated
fully,
does
meet
the
each
acceptable
requirement
of
the
zoning
ordinance
in
order
now,
therefore,
based
on
the
following
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions,
the
law,
the
board
of
adjustment
that
the
applicant
is
hereby
granted
the
special
use
permit
of
a
plan
unit
of
the
plan
unit
development.