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From YouTube: Let's Talk Justice in COVID-19
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Buncombe County justice leaders have reduced the number of people in hail while ensuring public safety during COVID-19. Find out more about how the justice system is working to protect the health of our community by watching.
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Well,
good
afternoon,
everyone
and
welcome
to
our
let's
talk
justice
in
the
time
of
Kovac,
19
webinar
event,
I'm
Brent
Bailey
with
community
engagement,
work
group
and
what
I
want
to
do.
First
is
turn
it
over
to
our
language
interpreter
for
some
language
instructions
and
then
I'll
come
back
and
we'll
get
started.
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B
Alright,
so
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
introduce
our
panelists
in
just
a
second
and
what
we
have
my
group
individuals
from
agencies
in
the
community,
from
law
enforcement,
District,
Attorney's,
Office,
public
defender's
office,
and
talking
about
the
plans
they've
implemented
recently
as
a
result
of
code
19
to
just
make
the
community
safer
for
all
citizens,
and
so
the
title
of
this
is:
let's
talk.
Justice
model,
the
king
and
his
letter
from
the
Birmingham
jail
had
a
interesting
quote.
B
He
talked
about
a
negative
piece:
the
absence
of
tension,
in
contrast
with
a
positive
peace,
being
the
presence
of
justice,
and
so
what
has
taken
place
and
what
we
all
continue
to
work
towards
is
justice
for
each
and
every
citizen
in
the
community,
and
so
I'm
so
delighted
to
have
this
esteemed
group
of
panelists.
Today
we
have
with
us
Laurie
Anderson
who's,
the
judicial
district
manager
at
the
North
Carolina
Department
of
Public
Safety
community
of
Community
Supervision.
We
have
Robert
Thomas,
a
racial
justice
coalition
community
liaison.
We
have
Meredith
Presley
assistant
district
attorney.
B
We
have
leanne.melton
chief
public
defender
and
we
have
major
tony
goon
from
the
detention
division
of
the
Buncombe
County
Sheriff's
Office,
and
this
call
today
will
be
moderated
by
J
Hackett
executive
director
of
Jordan
peer
recovery
and
so
for
those
who
may
be
able
to
enter
some
questions
in
the
chat
function.
We
may
not
be
able
to
get
to
all
of
them
today,
but
the
ones
we
are
not
able
to
get
to.
E
Well,
good
afternoon,
everybody
and
welcome
to
let's
talk
justice,
we're
here
and
we're
joined
by
some
awesome
panelists,
and
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
get
right
into
we're,
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
right
into
some
introductions
and
so
we'll
let
the
panelists
introduce
themselves
and
we'll
just
go
through
it.
You
could
just
tell
us
your
name
and
the
agency
that
you
represent
and
we'll
start
with
LeAnn
hi.
E
Alright,
we
have
I
believe
this
is
all
of
our
panelists
and
we're
joined
as
well
by
some
folks
from
the
say,
Justin
challenge
grant
steering
committee
some
other
community
members,
of
course,
with
all
the
support
that
we
have
from
Buncombe
County,
we're
glad
for
the
work
and
the
dedication
of
miss
Aisha,
Shepard
who's
working
so
hard
behind
the
scenes
all
right.
Now
we
only
have
a
few
minutes.
So
let's
jump
right
in
okay,
our
number
one.
Our
first
question
I
mean
this
is
for
Meredith
LeAnn
and
Laurie
Meredith.
A
Have
been
working
closely
with
the
clerk's
office
to
continue
the
cases
during
this
period
of
time
we
have
been
working
to
try
to
handle
as
many
in
custody
please
for
in
custody
defendants
as
we
can
in
appropriate
cases.
We
have
made
a
recommendation
to
unsecure
the
bonds
taking
in
mind
Community
Safety
when
we're
making
those
decisions.
What
kind
of
charge
it
is,
as
well
as
our
commitment
to
victims,
rights
and
notifying
the
victims
in
those
cases
that
are
victims
rights
cases,
we've
also
made
some
updates
on
our
website.
A
There's
a
link
to
the
NC
Courts
go
find
your
court
date
feature
so
folks
can
link
to
that
and
find
their
court
date
and
the
clerk's
office
sends
those
notices
out
with
that
mutant
court
day.
But
that's
another
feature
we're
also
working
on
some
more
electronic
forms
where
folks
can
upload
an
insurance
letter
if
they
have
a
ret
ticket
and
also
request
an
administrative
court
continuance,
those
will
be
active
shortly.
Okay,.
A
So
when
a
person
gets
booked
on
a
charge,
the
judicial
official
can
either
set
secured
or
unsecured
bond.
If
it's
a
secure
bond
have
to
post
some
type
of
security,
it
can
be
a
cash
bond
or
through
a
bondsman.
The
decision
is
ultimately
the
judicial
officials
to
unsecure
the
bond
or
not.
They
can
change
that
from
a
security
unsecured
bond,
so
we
can
make
our
position
as
unsecured,
if
that's
an
appropriate
case,
and
ultimately
that
would
be
the
judges
decision,
whether
or
not
they
do
unsecured
or
not.
Thank.
A
F
The
public
defender's
office
focus
has
been
clients
that
are
in
custody
on
March
16th.
The
public
defender's
office
started
staffing
first
appearances
to
provide
additional
advocacy
to
get
individuals
released
as
soon
as
possible.
We've
been
scheduling
additional
bond
hearings
for
clients
to
try
to
get
them
out
of
custody
in
light
of
the
risk
of
Kogan
19
in
jails.
We've
successfully
argued
a
good
cause
motion
for
a
high
risk
individual
who
was
serving
a
split
sentence
in
jail
that
was
to
be
followed
by
a
probationary
sentence.
F
F
All
of
our
attorneys
in
the
public
defender's
office
have
been
set
up
with
video
visitation
with
the
jail,
so
they
can
talk
to
clients
via
video
when
necessary
and
also
more
frequently.
We
are
also
still
going
to
the
jail.
However,
to
speak
to
clients
also,
we've
been
trying
to
negotiate
dismissals
or
probationary
sentences
for
individuals
in
jail,
who
cannot
make
they're
secured
behind,
and
we've
been
working
with
the
jail
liaison
to
get
individuals
released
when
we've
been
notified
by
the
jail.
An
individual
is
at
high
risk
due
to
health
issues.
E
All
right
well,
thank
you.
That's
a
lot
and
it's
all
something
to
think
about
how
creative
we
can
be
when
something
like
like
this
as
unexpected
as
it
is
when
something
like
this
happens
as
a
community
and
as
a
justice
system.
Y'all
have
been
creative
about
your
approach,
maintain
a
safety
in
order,
but
also
serving
people
and
protecting
them.
Oh
Lori
how
what
has
been
your
agency's
response
to
cold
mid-nineteen?
Well,.
I
We've
done
several
worked
in
coordination
with
both
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
with
the
DA's
office
relating
to
probation
violation,
coordinates
relating
to
our
offenders,
who
had
quick-tip,
confinements
or
weekends
to
do
in
jail
when
goldeneye
worked
even
prior
to
having
an
order
mandating
that
we
do
those
later
early
on
in
the
process,
we
suspend
with
any
of
that
just
to
have
as
few
offenders
as
we
could
coming
into
the
facility
so
we're
doing
those.
At
a
later
time.
I
All
of
our
our
office
also
does
community
service
for
the
community
and
for
the
offender
population
that
has
had
community
service
that
has
been
ordered.
We
have
suspended
that
completely
so
that
we're
not
taking
them
into
these
agencies
and
putting
them
at
risk
and
the
agencies
at
risk,
so
we're
doing
none
of
the
community
service
hours
at
this
time,
our
low
level,
our
lowest
level
offender
population,
we're
trying
to
have
them,
do
everything
remotely
by
a
computer
so
that
they
don't.
We
don't
have
to
see
them
at
all.
If
we
don't
have
to
okay,
so.
E
If
there
are
low-level
offender,
they're
able
to
report
remotely
talk
and
okay
all
right,
thank
you
next
question.
This
question
is
for
Rob
Thomas,
you
ready
over
there
man
all
right.
Can
you
tell
us
what
the
racial
justice
coalition
is
and
what's
the
partnership
between
racial
justice
coalition,
a
national
PD?
Yes,.
G
I'll
start
out
by
addressing
what
the
racial
justice
coalition
is.
The
racial
justice
coalition
comes
together
and
commitment
to
racial
equity
and
to
advocate
for
the
rights
of
people
of
color,
with
law
enforcement
through
policy
change,
issue,
education
and
relationship
building.
Our
vision
is
to
mobilize
and
energize
existing
organizations,
doing
racial
justice
work
to
become
a
national
model
for
best
practices
and
improve
improve
police-community
relations
in
Asheville
in
Buncombe
County.
G
The
partnership
with
apd
first
I
would
say
that
we
more
like
we
more
or
less
have
a
relationship,
not
exactly
a
partnership
where
we
have
a
lot
of
common
goals
in
mind
where,
as
we
focus
on
police
accountability
and
the
relationship
with
the
police
chief,
you
know
is
his
job
to
kind
of
hold
his
officers
accountable
and
hold
them
at
the
highest
standard
possible.
We
are
working
together
on
a
few
different
initiatives
on
me
and
a
police
chief
said
that
we've
had
several
conversations
about
some
programs.
G
What
we'd
like
to
get
instituted
later
on
in
the
year
after
physical
distancing
restrictions
loosen
up
one
of
them
would
be
the
well.
We
have
community
members
coming
in
from
marginalized
communities
that
are
able
to
speak
with
his
new
recruits
and
kind
of
give
them
a
different
perspective.
They
they
may
not
be
in
may
not
be
accessible
whenever
a
new
recruit
is
coming
in
and
getting
trained
by
just
officers.
E
You
know
relationships
are
key
and
thank
you
rob
and
we're
glad
that
the
racial
justice
coalition
and
APD
have
figured
out
how
goals
align
for
the
sake
of
the
community
at
large.
You
know
it's
it's
one
thing
for
for
people
to
see
us
as
opposite
ends
of
the
spectrum,
but
when
we
come
together,
something
really
good
can
come
out
of
it.
Thank
you,
but
major
goal.
Next
question
is,
for
you
all
right:
what
procedures
and
processes
did
the
the
B
SEO
take
to
ensure
safety
of
those
held
in
jail?
H
H
Sure,
in
a
minute,
okay,
so
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
Jay
great
question
early
on,
we
implemented
some
cleaning
protocols
and
things
in
place.
We
issued
out
soap
no
charge
for
free
for
free
to
all
the
detainees
there,
as
LeAnn
said,
and
Laurie,
both
and
and
Meredith
as
well.
We're
we
work
together
to
reduce
that
jail
population
and
get
some
of
those
high
risk
individuals
out
of
custody.
H
We
do
a
quarantine
procedure
right
now
for
all
new
arrestees
there.
We
quarantine
them
for
14
days
before
we
put
them
in
the
population
that
enables
us
to
ensure
that
we're
not
introducing
anything
in
any
kovat
into
the
jail
population.
We're
screening.
We
push
the
screening
of
those
arrestees
new
arrivals
outside
of
the
building.
We're
actually
have
a
tent
outside
that
we're
using
to
do
the
initial
screening
of
some
of
those
that
you
know
their
temperature
is
elevated.
H
We're
screaming
staff
twice
a
day,
both
at
the
beginning
of
shift
and
at
the
end
of
the
shifts,
and
one
of
the
important
things
that
that
we
spoke
about
very
early
on
is
sheriff.
Miller
throws
be
very
important
that
we
didn't
have
any
restrictions
for
our
detainees
reporting
there
if
they
had
an
illness.
So
you
know
typically
there's
a
triage
fee
associated
with
citko.
H
So
our
video
visitation
provider
gave
free
visit
every
week
to
every
detainee
to
allow
them
to
stay
in
touch
with
their
friends
or
family
via
video
and
our
partner
at
the
phone
that
does
the
phone
service
for
the
jail
they
gave
some
CPC.
They
gave
some
video
calling
cards
I'm
sorry
calling
cards
for
each
of
the
detainees
to
be
able
to
make
phone
calls
to
their
family
and
friends
at
no
charge
as
well.
So
we're
trying
to
keep
their
in
contact
as
well.
E
E
They
are
our
family,
they're,
our
friends
and-
and
it's
just
good
to
know
that
you
all
are
concerned
about
their
livelihood,
how
they're
communicating
with
the
family
on
the
outside
and
their
safety
while
inside
just
before
we
go
to
the
next
question,
which
will
be
for
Leanne,
can
any
of
y'all?
Just
just
tell
us
why?
Why
did
you
sign
up
to
work
in
the
justice
system
where,
where
you
are
like,
why
do
this
Meredith?
Can
we
start
with
you.
A
G
I
F
F
I
H
You
know
I,
think
everybody
does
the
job,
because
you
know
they
want
to
make.
They
want
to
be
a
positive
influence
with
with
the
change
and
they
want
to.
You
know,
influence
the
direction
of
the
particular
appeal
that
they're
in
I
know
in
ours.
We
do
and
we
work
really
hard
to
do
that
and
I
think
that's
the
the
chance
that
we
have
is
to
build
the
the
profession
that
where
each
of
us
is
in
and
build
it
in
a
direction,
that's
positive
for
the
community
as
a
whole.
H
E
Right
all
right,
so
our
next
question
in
the
end,
you
answered
part
of
this
already
you
talked
about
communicating
with
defendants
during
the
pandemic.
Can
you
tell
us
any
more
about
how
your
office
is
communicating
with
defendants
and
then
what's
the
best
way
for
somebody
to
get
into
contact
with
your
office
right.
F
Now
we're
communicating
with
individuals
by
phone
and
by
email.
The
best
way
to
to
get
ahold
of
us
is
to
call
us
at
eight
to
eight
to
five
nine.
Three
four
to
three
all
of
the
assistant
public
defenders,
email
addresses,
are
on
the
North
Carolina
indigent
defense
services
webpage
and
the
image
of
the
service
indigent
defense
services
webpage
is
HTTP
semi
colon
forward,
slash
forward,
slash,
NC,
IDs
org
forward,
slash
and
just
go
to
the
statewide
defender
directory.
The
attorneys
are
responding
to
emails
and
also
their
phone
messages.
F
E
F
E
G
You
know
arrests
for
physical,
distancing,
citations
and
questions
around
PPP
for
officers,
and
he
was
great
on
responding
to
what
they
planned
on
doing,
and
you
know
how
how
we
shouldn't
have
to
worry
about
that,
and
so
far
we
haven't
had
any
major
issues
around
it.
How
the
RJC
pivoted
we
traded.
A
facebook
page
called
a
Facebook
group
called
W
and
C
response
to
cover
19
for
those
in
custody.
There's
a
platform
for
those
who
are
concerned
about
our
prison
and
jail
populations.
G
G
Also,
we
created
an
input
survey
that
we
are
putting
in
community
because
with
crime,
lessening
and
police
police
interactions
with
actual
community
members,
also
lesson
because
of
co
vat19,
who
are
able
to
focus
on
other
serious
racial
justice
issues
and
also,
at
the
same
time,
intentionally
focus
on
the
voice
of
our
community
and
let
that
drive
what
it
is
the
RJC
is
about
and
what
we
focused
on.
So
we
have
that
input
survey
as
well
after
thank.
A
It's
about
midway
down
the
page
or
you
can
put
in
your
either
your
name
or
citation
number
to
find
your
court
date,
the
clerk's
office,
when
we
continue
the
cases
they're
sending
out
notice
to
the
defendants
with
their
new
court
date
inside
that
envelope,
they're
also
sending
a
court
date
reminder
card
with
that
website
on
the
air.
I
also
gave
sacks
of
cards,
for
it's
called
I
plea
where
you
can
go
on
as
well
at
the
ncart
website.
It's
a
little
bit
it's
about
in
the
top.
A
C
A
E
All
right,
thank
you.
Now
major
I've
got
a
long
question
for
you.
Are
there
partnerships
between
the
legal
system
and
healthcare,
housing
and
other
community
partners
to
support
people
and
their
reentry?
How
are
people
being
assessed
for
it,
the
stuff
that
they're
gonna
need
when
they
get
what's
happening
when
people
are
released.
H
E
Yeah
I,
you
know
in
the
spirit
of
full
disclosure,
I've
done
some
work
with
the
Sheriff's
Office
joint
peer
recovery
and
golf
program,
director,
Kat
Williams.
She
is
on
fire,
I
mean
she
just
pulling
all
kind
of
resources
together
for
folks,
and
we
collectively
apply
for
some
grants
together.
Hopefully,
the
deal
well
we'll
release
it
and
I'll
allow
more
funding
and
more
resources
to
be
available.
Y'all
are
already
working
and
giving
people
jobs
and
connected
with
services,
and
and
this
funding
comes
through,
y'all
will
be
able
to
do
a
whole
lot.
E
H
E
For
the
community,
you
know,
if
you
have
friends
or
family
or
loved
ones,
that
are
that
are
there
in
custody,
encourage
them
to
get
involved
with
the
resources
that
are
that
are
available.
I
know
when
talking
we
catch.
Sometimes
people
are
not
signing
up
for
things
and
there's
lots
of
stuff
available
to
them
if
they
would
like
alright.
Yes,
next
question
is
for
Laurie
Laurie.
E
I
In
terms
of
a
technical
violation,
it's
not
our
standard
procedure,
although
its
cases
are
staffed
on
a
case
by
case
situation,
but
it's
not
our
standard
procedure
to
do
orders
for
a
rest
or
to
arrest
our
population
on
technical
violations
and
we're
not.
We
don't
want
to
fill
up
the
jail.
We
don't
want
to
put
people
in
custody
simply
on
those
technical
violations.
When
we
can
have
alternatives
in
the
community
to
try
to
deal
with
those
doesn't.
I
Trying
to
fill
up
the
jail
on
technical
violations,
it
doesn't
mean
that
that
it
doesn't
happen
because
sometimes
you
have
technical
violations
with
extenuating
circumstances
and
remember.
Public
safety
is
our
primary
responsibility,
so
that
always
is
going
to
win,
but
in
terms
of
a
regular
technical
violation,
we're
not
issuing
process
for
those
or
warrants
for
those
we
weren't
doing
that
prior
to
when
we
certainly
wouldn't
be
doing
it.
Now,
with
everything,
that's
going
on
all.
E
Right
so
this
next
question,
though,
is
for
everybody.
This
next
question
is
for
everybody
and
I'll
call
your
name,
and
you
just
answer
as
as
directly
as
you
can.
During
this
time,
many
efforts
have
been
made,
but
what
is
needed
for
those
efforts
to
be
sustained
beyond
the
pandemic?
I,
you
know
we.
We
are
realizing
that
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
a
year
before
now.
Maybe
we
were
just
doing
things
because
that's
how
we
always
did
them
and
we
would-
and
it
was
easy
to
say
we
don't
do-
that.
E
We
can't
do
that,
but
now
we've
been
forced
to
be
kind
of
creative
right.
So
after
this
is
over
after
this
pandemic,
and
once
you
know
the
the
vaccine
is
here
at
etc,
etc
and
the
the
curve
is
flat
and
below
the
line.
What
would
it
take
to
sustain
some
of
these
wonderful
efforts
and
creative
things
that
you
all
have
in
place
and
what
measures
be
put
in
place
to
monitor
whether
they're
being
sustained?
Is
it
possible
for
us
to
do
better
long
term?
I
Certainly,
I
think
it's
possible
and
I
think
where,
as
we
all
have
a
job
to
do,
I
think
our
ultimate
goal
is
the
same
and
I
think
that
bottom
line.
What
we
have
to
remember,
regardless
of
what's
going
on
whether
it's
a
pandemic,
whether
it's
just
everyday
business,
is
that
we
have
to
remember
to
collaborate
and
we
have
to
remember
to
communicate
and
we
have
to
be
respectful
of
each
other
and
and
the
jobs
and
our
responsibilities
and
I
do
think
that
we
can
sustain
it.
I
F
F
Individuals
awaiting
trial
are
presumed
innocent
and
everyone
in
the
court
system
here
in
Buncombe
County,
has
has
come
together
and
we
have
safely
and
successfully
reduced
our
jail
population
by
40
percent.
Since
March
16th
of
2020,
the
courts
in
court
workload
was
drastically
reduced
during
this
time
period
because
out
of
custody
cases
were
automatically
continued
to
June,
first
or
after
everyone
in
the
court
system
had
more
time
to
thoroughly
review
those
bonds.
Our
court
system
needs
to
be
properly
funded,
so
there
will
be
proper
amount
of
time
dedicated
to
reviewing
those
bonds.
F
In
addition,
my
belief
is
that
our
bail
policy
should
require
written
findings
while
secured
bond
is
imposed
and
written
findings
regarding
an
individual's
ability
to
pay.
A
secured
bond
should
be
required.
I
will
tell
you
that
I
want
to
staff
first
appearances
after
the
pandemic
is
over,
but
with
our
workload
without
additional
staff
would
be
extremely
difficult
and
for
us
to
sustain
if
we
did
not
have
more
more
funding
for
our
office
to
staff
public
defender
at
first
appearance
because
of
the
reduced
workload
in
court,
we've
been
able
to
do
it.
Okay,.
E
F
Do
from
my
office
and
I
will
say,
the
DA's
office
needs
more
funding.
Probation
needs,
more
funding.
Everybody
in
the
court
system
is
underfunded.
The
we
the
court
system
as
a
whole
sends
a
lot
of
money
to
the
General
Assembly
to
the
general
fund
in
court
costs
and
so
forth.
We
actually
based
on
court
costs
I.
Think
we
end
up
sending
more
money
to
the
state.
General
fund
then
actually
is
giving
backs
as
a
General
Assembly
to
the
court
system
itself,
we're
just
extremely
underfunded.
Wow.
E
A
E
G
You
know
I
got
to
us
my
job
first
of
all,
I
feel
as
if
it
was
already
possible
to
do
everything
that
was
done
before
the
pandemic.
The
urgency
just
created
the
environment
for
everything
to
be
done
and
passed.
I
congratulate
everyone
for
doing
an
awesome
job
at
getting
everything
passed,
I,
don't
think
it
should
be
there
or
to
sustain.
What's
going
on
after
this
I
hate
the
collateral
damage
that
the
pandemic
is
caused
as
far
as
lives
and
individuals
getting
sick,
but
activists
in
our
world.
G
We've
literally
seen
things
change
overnight
that
we've
been
advocating
for
for
for
decades.
So
I
agree
with
all
my
fellow
panelists
that
communication
is
the
key,
especially
between
your
agencies
and
community,
and
oh,
my
in
what
that
looks
like
is,
is
also
being
able
to
hold
systems
and
individuals
accountable
for
sustaining
the
changes
that
have
been
made.
Yeah
all.
E
H
I
think
everybody
has
valid
points.
I
think
that
I
think
communication
and
respect
are
critical,
but
I
agree
with
Rob
I
think
you
know
what
this.
What
this
pandemic
proved
was
that
this
could
be
done
and
I
think
that
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
to
go
back
to
exactly
the
way
we
were
before
I
just
it's
gonna
be
very
hard
to
replicate
that,
because
we've
already
seen
that
it
can
be
done
so
I
think
sustainability
is
within
our
control.
E
All
right
well,
thank
you
all
again.
We
do
have
some
some
community
questions
as
I'm
receiving
those
questions.
I
want
to
say
that
we
appreciate
what
you
all
do
in
the
various
capacities
that
you
do
it
this
pandemic
as
Rob
referenced
it.
It
does
have
quite
a
bit
of
collateral
damage,
but
I
think
that
the
creativity
that
has
been
and
the
diligence
that
has
come
from
your
agencies
is
remarkable
and
and
moments
like
this,
allow
us
to
see
the
humanity
that
you
are
with
which
you
serve
so
the
community
can
see.
E
It
is
a
very
special
place
and
we
have
a
lot
of
good,
but
we
have
to
connect
the
dots
if
we
don't
more
and
more
people
could
get
hurt
or
detained
unnecessarily
long
or
sick
unnecessarily
and
in
all
kind
of
other
ways.
So
I'm
motivated
I'm,
encouraged
and
I
really
appreciate
all
of
you
for
sharing
this
time
with
us
to
the
community.
If
you
have
questions,
please
put
them
in
the
comments
section.
We
have
a
few
more
minutes
for
those
questions.
E
E
A
Well,
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
go
right
back
to
the
way
it
was.
This
is
Meredith
Presley
assistant
DA
for
administrative
court,
which
is
normally
the
first
full
week
of
every
month
for
gian.
What
we've
done
is
taken
those
cases
and
divide
those
up
into
more
of
the
months
so
we're
starting
with
June
15th.
A
The
notices
are
being
sent
out
to
defendants
whose
cases
are
being
continued,
we're
dividing
those
up
into
smaller
chunks
of
about
25
in
the
morning
and
25
in
the
after,
so
that
it's
a
lower
volume
of
folks
coming
into
the
courthouse
at
a
time
we'll
try
to
handle
as
many
of
those
cases
without
one
into
the
courtroom,
as
we
can
so
we're
doing
that.
Those
from
the
15th
through
leave
July
1st
for
that
June
admin
session,
we'll
still
be
trying
to
handle
as
many
in
custody.
A
Please
as
we
can,
but
starting
to
do
more
out
of
custody.
Please,
what
we've
been
doing
in
Superior
Court
has
been
working
well,
is
having
a
Google
Doc
to
sign
up
for
a
time
to
come
in,
so
that
we're
not
all
bunched
in
a
courtroom
with
a
lot
of
folks
in
there
at
a
time.
So
we're
going
to
try
to
keep
doing
that.
Okay,.
E
A
Call
our
office,
it's
eight,
two,
eight
two,
five,
nine
three,
four
one
zero
and
we
have
some
electronic
forms
where
our
staff
can
request
a
dismissal
and
that
will
go
to
me
to
approve
so
I
can
approve
a
dismissal
on
something
like
a
registration.
They
can
also
submit
requests
for
reductions
of
speeding
tickets.
So
we
can
try
to
reduce
the
amount
of
folks
who
are
actually
having
to
physically
come
into
the
courthouse.
If.
A
E
Right,
you
know
the
as
we
look
at
the
the
justice
system.
Out
of
the
whole,
it
can
be
very
scary,
but
the
scariness
comes
from
for
some.
It's
just
a
lack
of
knowledge
when
we
don't
know
something
it
become
scary
and
others.
It
may
be
a
personal
experience
what
they've
experienced
makes
it
scary,
it's
good
to
hear
us
peel
back
the
curtain
a
little
bit
and
and
and
and
become
aware
of
some
some
of
the
nuances
and
some
of
the
things
that
are
available
for
folks
to
advocate
for
themselves
or
for
their
situations.
E
If
there
are
no
other
questions,
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
from
the
community
right.
Oh,
oh
I
have
a
lot
more
questions.
I
think
we'll
only
take
a
few
of
these
many
questions
in
regard
to
early
releases.
How
many
have
early
releases?
How
many
early
releases
have
we
had
in
Buncombe
County?
Does
anybody
know
that
or
roundabouts
figure
early
releases
I.
H
I
know
I,
don't
know
what
the
number
of
early
releases
are,
but
I
know
that
you
know
the
the
releases
are
determined
by
the
judge,
as
Leanne
mentioned,
so
the
courts
making
that
determination
for
us,
so
the
the
attorneys
are
I
assume
we're
making
the
plea
to
get
that
early
release.
But
the
determinations
made
by
the
judge.
Okay,.
E
So
we've,
what
are
the
racial
demographics
of
those
who
have
been
released
or
received
the
unsecured
bond
I'm,
not
sure,
if
any
of
you
guys
have
this
information
readily
available,
but
the
question
from
an
audience
is:
what
are
the
racial
demographics
of
those
that
have
been
released
and
received
unsecured
bonds?
Do
we
have
that
available?
Is
that
something
that
we
can
provide
a
written
response
to.
F
E
G
Is
found
on
the
WNC
response
to
Co
V
for
those
in
custody.
That
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
also
posted
and
going
through.
The
demographics
we've
seen
a
steady
decline
in
in
african-american
blacks
being
detained,
while
whites
were
being
released,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
because
of
the
tools
that
are
used
to
release
individuals
from
custody
such
as
looking
at
the
nature
of
the
crime.
How
many
previous
crimes
the
individual
has
had,
and
a
lot
of
it
relates
to
that
to.
G
That's
tricky
because
I
would
I
would
say
that
a
lot
of
individuals
have
been
released
from
custody,
but
at
the
same
time
a
lot
of
black
individuals
still
are
able
to
be
released.
Because
of
because
of
the
issues
that
I
just
stated,
our
jail
population
has
drastically
increased
and
drastically
increases
each
week.
It's
just
that.
G
E
F
Foundation
prior
criminal
history
is
taken
into
account
whether
or
not
an
individual
has
a
violent
flag
and
individuals
age.
The
younger
you
are,
it
tends,
according
to
the
risk
assessment,
to
make
you
more
of
a
higher
risk
numbers
of
failures
to
appear
in
the
past
two
years.
That's
taken
into
account
in
Buncombe
County.
We
used
to
use
the
Virginia
risk
assessment
and
I
think
we've
used
that
pretty
much
since
around
2009
2010
I
think
is
what
we've
been
using.
It's
called
the
V
prey,
but
we
have
recently
switched
to
the
public
safety
assessment.
F
That's
at
the
district
court
level
through
our
judges
at
the
district
court
level
of
individuals.
First,
appearances
to
my
knowledge,
we
have
not
implemented
that
at
the
magistrate
level.
Yet
I
know
that
we
have
a
racial
equity
work
group
through
the
MacArthur
Foundation
that
we're
trying
to
look
at
all
that
data
and
try
to
figure
out
what
the
data
is
telling
us
so
that
we
can
course
correct
when,
when
the
data
says
that
we
should
correct
so
I
know
that
Mecklenburg
County
implemented
this
risk
assessment
reduced
their
jail
population
significantly.
E
And
I
want
to
say
this
at
the
plug
for
the
safety
and
justice
challenge,
grant
which
was
funded
by
MacArthur
Foundation
and
is
housed
with
Buncombe
County.
This
collective
work
that
we're
doing
it
is
working
and
it's
helping
and
one
of
the
ways
that
is
helping
and
working
is
with
the
risk
assessment.
We
talked
about
what
it
was
and
so
weird
that
this
change
happened,
and
this
change
seems
to
be
more
practical
and
also
for
the
community
at
large.
E
This
risk
assessment
is
it's
letting
us
know
what
people
are
at
risk
for
reoffending,
but
it
can
also
be
used.
If
you
want
to
look
it
up,
it
can
also
be
used
to
prevent
reoffending.
You
know
if
you
get
involved
with
with
community
activities,
if
you
get
involved,
if
you
become
informed,
if
you
become
part
of
building
up
the
community,
you're
less
likely
to
tear
down
the
community,
and
so
let's
encourage
each
other
out
in
the
community
to
do
these
things
that
will
prevent
incarceration
in
the
first
place,
I
think
as
a
community.
E
H
H
E
E
H
E
G
All
right,
I
just
want
to
say
that
on
that
I
agree
with
that
assessment
of
the
risk
assessment
tool
as
far
as
what
you
said
that
it
works.
But
at
the
same
time
it
just
shows
that
a
systemic
and
structural
racism
exists
a
lot
deeper
and
the
risk
assessment
tool.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
only
a
tool
that
picks
up
and
registers
certain
occurrences
and
things
and
I
think
some
situations
in
cases
need
to
determine
by
a
case-by-case
basis
and
I.
G
Don't
I
feel
as
if
the
risk
assessment
tool
should
should
not
be
the
end
all
and
be
all
who
is
released.
Just
because
you
score
low
score,
I
think
it
takes
more
than
that
to
really
see
what
is
going
on,
because
a
lot
of
you
know,
for
instance,
previous
charges
to
where
is
if
we
are
being
over-policed
and
we
are
being
stopped
more
than
regular,
we're
more
likely
to
have
pre-existing
charges.
And
if
you
look
at
several
different
statistics,
nationwide
minorities
are
charged
at
a
higher
rate
and
charged
at
a
more
extensive
rate.
G
Whereas
two
individuals
commit
the
same
crime,
one
white
one
black
one
may
receive
a
more
extreme
charge
than
the
other
one
as
if
there
was
sit
and
risk
assessment
to
works
to
a
certain
degree,
but
there
still
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
of
case
by
case
analysis.
That
goes
deeper
than
the
risk
assessment
tool.
Well,.
E
We
are
and
I
agree,
and
thank
you
rob.
We
are
we're
in
our
last
minute
and
so
I
want
to
leave
you
all
with
this.
I
want
to
leave
you
all
with
this.
We
know
that
our
our
country,
our
communities,
have
had
problems
before
we
all
know
that
disparities
exist,
and
we
know
that,
no
matter
what
tool
we
use
right
now,
if
it
was
created
inside
of
a
if
it
was
created,
somebody
can
abuse
it.
E
If
it
is
true
that
people
are
innocent
until
proven
guilty,
let's
really
walk
that
out
and
if
it
is
true
that
after
somebody
has
paid
the
price
for
their
crime
that
they
really
can
turn
over
a
new
leaf,
let's
figure
out
how
to
make
sure
that
that
leaf
is
very
new
and
not
just
a
different
side
of
the
same
leaf.
Let's
really
work
to
see
how
this
thing
can
be
better.
We
appreciate
you
all
that
work
in
our
justice
system
and
we've
got
your
back.
We're
just
asking
that
you
all
continue
to.
E
Let
us
in
continue
to
communicate
with
us
and
let's
make
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
better
for
everybody
all
right
community.
We
thank
you
all
for
your
time.
We
were
not
able
to
answer
all
of
the
questions,
but
we
will
respond
to
those
questions
we
have
them
written
down
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
get
back
to
you,
please.
If
you
want
to
stay
in
contact,
if
you
want
this
conversation
to
go
on,
let
Isis
Shepherd
know
let
the
community
know.
E
Let
folks
know
that
this
is
working,
and
maybe
this
is
something
that
we've
done
better
act
and
in
the
future.
We
can
sustain
this
if
we
just
make
a
decision
to
do
it
all
right.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
It's
2:00
o'clock-
and
this
has
been.
Let's
talk-
justice,
I'm,
J
hacker,
the
executive
director
of
Jordan
P
recovery
y'all
have
a
great
day
and
stay
safe.