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From YouTube: Tapped In | October 6 | 2022 Bond Referendums
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Joining us today is Buncombe County Assistant County Manager Sybil Tate and the director of Communication and Public Engagement Lillian Govus.
Sharing information about two bond referendums that will be on the 2022 election ballot. If approved, the two bonds will support conservation of open space, greenways, and increase the number of housing units for people of low to moderate income in Buncombe County.
A
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Okay,
it's
time
to
get
tapped
in
hello,
hello,
hello
and
greetings
to
all
of
those
that
listen
to
my
voice.
It's
that
time
again
for
tapped
in
and
I'm
one
of
your
hosts
and
Zakia
Beau
Rogers
and.
A
B
Joining
us
today
are
two
guests:
Vulcan
counties,
assistant,
County,
Manager,
civil
Tate
and
director
of
communications
and
public
engaged
engagement,
Lillian
Gomez.
They
are
here
to
share
information
about
two
bond
referendums
that
will
be
on
this
year's
election
ballot.
The
open
space
bond
for
30
million
in
the
housing
bond
for
40
million,
welcome
civil
engine
Lillian.
D
Hey
y'all
I'm,
Lillian
I'm,
the
director
of
communications
and
public
engagement,
I
get
to
work
with
Zuki
and
Leonard
every
day.
We
do
all
of
our
internal
and
external
Communications,
and
also
raise
awareness
about
issues
that
are
going
on
in
our
community,
which
includes
this.
These
bond
referendums
that
folks
have
the
opportunity
to
vote
on
on
November,
8th
and
I
grew
up
just
down
the
hill
in
Old
Rutherford
County.
A
C
Well,
the
purpose
is
to
raise
funds
to
pay
for
large
projects
and
the
you
know
the
bonds
that
are
on
the
on
the
ballot
this
year
are
going
to
be
for
affordable
housing
and
for
land
conservation.
A
C
The
Von
would
pay
for
additional
projects
to
to
help
manage
the
affordable
housing
crisis
that
we're
experiencing
and
also
to
help
conserve
additional
lands.
I.
D
Think
two
of
the
things
that
are
important
to
know
is
that
the
language
on
the
bond
referendum
itself
will
say
to
support
housing
for
people
of
low
to
moderate
incomes,
so
we're
talking
about
creating
infrastructure
for
everyone
who
low
income,
but
also
folks,
who
are
working
every
day
who
just
like
us,
who
are
trying
our
best
to
you
know
to
get
by
in
in
a
community
where
the
the
cost
of
living
has
risen
significantly.
D
So
that's
a
big
piece
to
know
the
other
big
piece
to
know
about
the
open
space
bonds
is
that
it's
not
just
conservation.
It's
also
also
open
space.
You
know
those
places
where
we
like
to
go
hiking
one
of
the
big
things
about
our
community
that
we
enjoy,
but
also
Greenways,
which
is
one
of
my
favorite
ways
to
get
from
point
A
to
point.
B
is
the
utilization
of
a
Greenway,
and
so
this
will
help
with
that
infrastructure
as
well.
If
it
is
passed
by
voters
and.
D
B
Like
to
rock
them
around
right
now
and
another
question
would
be
what
are
General
obligation,
bonds.
C
Well
so
again,
there
again
and
I
think
the
important
thing
to
note
about
General
obligation
bonds
is
that
they're
backed
by
the
taxing
Authority
and
so
what
we're
asking?
What
we're?
What
we're
asking
of
residents
of
November
8th
is
to
vote
whether
they
agree
to
use
their
their
tax
to
pay
for
these
bonds
to
pay
for
these
projects,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
something
that
you'll
see
on
the
ballot.
November
8th,
there's
two
questions,
one
about
low
and
moderate
income
housing
and
then
the
other
about
conservation.
One.
D
Of
the
things
about
General
obligation,
bonds-
and
you
often
see
these
with
school
districts
right
school
districts
generally
use
these
to
build
big
construction,
but
certainly
right
now,
everyone's
talking
about
interest
rates
right,
if
you
have
a
credit
card,
if
you're
trying
to
buy
a
house
or
a
car
interest
rates,
are
a
big
deal.
General
obligation,
bonds,
give
government
agencies
the
lowest
interest
rate
in
order
to
secure
that
large
amount
of
funding.
A
D
Yeah,
so
you
know,
we've
got
two
opportunities:
one
is
the
housing
for
people
of
low
to
moderate
income,
and
that
is
a
40
million
dollar
Bond.
We
also
have
the
open
space
Bond.
That's
a
30
million
dollar
Bond
people
can
vote
in
support
of
one
or
against
one
or
for
one
or
the
other.
They
can
do
both
they
can
do
neither
so
they
don't
have
to
choose
all
of
the
above.
Just
like
any
other
ballot.
D
Or
office
that
you're
running
for
and
so
by
making
that
selection,
if
approved
by
voters
in
November
a
30
million
dollar
Bond,
would
cost
typical
households
amount
about
a
maximum
of
fourteen
dollars
a
year
for
20
years,
so
14
total
for
20
years
on
that
property
tax
bill.
If
the
40
40
million
dollar
bond
is
passed,
that's
going
to
cost
a
typical
household,
a
maximum
of
about
18
a
year
for
24,
a
total
of
20
years.
A
D
That's
really
kind
of
the
worst
case
scenario,
but
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
landscape
is
given
to
voters
before
they
are
asked
to
make
any
sort
of
decision.
It'll
show
up
on
the
property
tax
bill,
it's
not
a
separate
bill,
and
and
that's
where
people
will
realize
that
and
then
it'll
be
transferred
into
this
obligation.
C
So
I
think
that's
a
great
need
in
our
community,
and
so
that
was
a
commissioner's
decision
to
move
forward
with
these
two
two
bonds,
because
they
see
it
as
something
that's
really
important
to
our
community.
A
C
We
have
here
in
in
Buncombe,
County
and
the
need
for
more
affordable
housing,
and
so
that's
how
they
decided
that
they
wanted
to
try
to
raise
funds
to
address
those
issues.
B
So
I
know
we
talk
about
like
some
of
the
financial
responsibility
that
may
impact
taxpayers.
What
are
some
of
the
potential
projects
that
may
come
out
of
these
funds.
C
Great
question:
we
don't
have
specific
projects
at
this
point.
We
will
wait
to
see
how
the
vote
goes
on
November
8th,
but
we
do
have
existing
programs
that
fund,
affordable
housing,
and
we
do
have
a
program
that
also
works
on
land
conservation,
and
so
what
we
would
look
to
do
is
use
those
existing
programs
to
vet
potential
projects.
C
D
So
for
anyone
who's
looking
to
get
more
information
about
what
that
selection
criteria
could
look
like,
we
have
all
of
our
information
about
these
bonds
at
www.bunkumcounty.org,
2022
bonds
and
I,
and
Sybil
mentioned
just
a
minute
ago
that
we're
forming
a
community
oversight
committee.
A
D
Board
of
Commissioners
approved
this
recently
and
we
actually
have
applications
open
right
now.
So
if
anyone
says
you
know,
I
want
if
these
bonds
get
up
get
passed,
I
want
to
be
part
of
the
group
that
make
sure
that
the
funding
gets
spent.
The
way
that
I
believe
it
should
be.
Then
we
have
applications
available
right
now,
and
so
the
committee
is
going
to
be
made
up
of
five
members,
so
we're
looking
for
a
person
with
an
accounting
background.
Obviously
a
big
need.
Leonard.
D
Obviously,
a
big
need
when
you're
talking
about
spending
up
to
70
million
dollars
on
infrastructure
in
the
community.
We
also
have
a
representative
from
the
conservation
and
Greenways
Community,
someone
from
the
affordable
housing
community
and
then
we're
also
going
to
have
an
additional
member
appointed
by
the
Asheville
Chamber
of
Commerce,
so
really
looking
for
people
with
these
specialized
backgrounds
to
ensure
that
if
these
funds
are
approved
by
voters
in
November
that
they
can
be
used
wisely
in
a
way
with
the
best
community
event
benefit
and
the
transparency
is
there.
D
B
D
Are
being
taken
taken
right
now,
so
anyone
can
apply.
You
know
hear
this.
You
get
back,
get
to
your
computer,
call
that
phone
number
drop
in
that
application,
and
and
so
that
way,
if
it's
approved
in
November,
the
committee
can
begin
meeting
immediately
and
really
make
sure
that,
through
every
step
of
this
Bond
measure,
if
approved,
we've
got
that
oversight
and
transparency.
C
A
Is
a
great
way
for
someone
to
get
involved
if
they
feel
like
they
want
to
give
their
voice,
so
they
have
strong
background
in
that
area.
You
know
our
people
always
want
to
leave
a
legacy
and
here's
a
a
way
that
they
can.
So.
Thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
that
information
as
well,
and
so
you
say
that
and
we
we
have
to
pay
the
bonds
back
over
a
20-year
process.
Is
it
those
who
are
home
owners
right
now
when
the
bond
pass
or
as
people
buy
homes?
Would
they
like?
B
A
That
time,
okay
awesome,
so
this
is
this-
is
a
basically
a
Community
Loan
to
improve
our
community.
Well,
I'm!
So
glad
I'm
able
to
do
this
for
all
of
you,
good
folks,
I'm,
hoping
that
when
that
we
can
do
something
about
the
housing
crisis,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
folks-
and
we
know
that
homelessness
is
a
big
issue
in
Buncombe
County
as
well.
What
do
you
have
for
us?
That's
how
you're
looking.
A
D
Are
already
that
we're
already
working
to
secure
from
other
funding
mechanisms,
I
think
one
of
the
great
things
that
the
folks
on
civil's
team
just
did
is
they
secured
more
than
a
million
dollars
in
Grants
for
Farmland
preservation
wow?
So
these
dollars
would
help
those
dollars
to
ensure
that
we
are
conserving
we're
meeting
those
land
conservation
goals
that
our
Board
of
Commissioners
has
already
identified,
and
this
helps
us
work
toward
those.
C
And
maybe
civilians,
yeah
and
I'll
share
another
piece
of
data
about
affordable
housing
in
terms
of
funds
that
we
leverage
there.
So
for
every
dollar
we
spend
of
County
money
on
affordable
housing,
we're
getting
twelve
dollars
back.
A
C
Other
financing
sources,
so
it's
it's
a
great
investment.
You
know
to
get
those
those
money
back
and
for
affordable
housing.
We're
getting.
You
know,
funding
from
State
from
private
investors,
not
just
County
dollars
to
make
these
projects
happen.
So.
A
C
Or
mixture
it
would
be
a
mixture.
So
well,
it's
it's
all
permanent
construction,
you
know
of
homes
and
it
could
be
rental
or
it
could
be
for
purchase.
A
B
I
have
a
question,
so
if
this
is
approved
by
the
community
on
this
year's
election,
when
do
the
county
actually
receive
those
funds?
Will
it
be
like
next
physical
year
or
is
it.
C
If
approved,
we
would
be
able
to
start
spending
those
funds
almost
immediately,
so
we
would
look
to
again.
You
know,
you
know,
put
look
to
to
use
our
existing
processes
to
figure
out
which
projects
we
want
to
to
find,
and
then
we
would
put
them
as
part
of
our
budget,
which
gets
adopted
at
the
end
of
June
and
then
actually
being
spent
in
July,
but
we'll
begin
the
process
for
determining
how
to
spend
those
funds
almost
immediately
yeah.
We
have.
A
C
B
C
Then
it
would
be
adopted
at
the
end
of
June
in
our
budget,
and
then
we
would
work
to
you
know,
develop
contracts
and
go
through.
You
know
more
of
the
details
of
how
the
funds
would
be
spent,
so
you
know
for
affordable
housing.
These
are
projects
that
take
a
while,
as.
A
C
Imagine
to
get
to
be
constructed.
Our
average
project
you
know,
could
take
three
to
four
years
for
for
the
you
know
for
it
to
be
completed,
but
the
funds
will
be
spent
during
that
entire
process
of
construction.
A
C
Finding
all
together,
we
have
seven
years
just
to
spend
the
funds,
but
we
can
also
get
an
extension
for
three
more
years,
so
we
have
a
total
of
10
years
to
expend
the
funds.
Okay,
okay,.
B
Okay
and
so
I
just
got
a
general
question.
I
know
that
the
election
in
early
voting
starts
soon
here
in
Buckland
County.
What
is
the
government's
role
in
educating
the
community
about
these
funds?.
D
Just
like
we're
doing
today
talking
about
what
the
options
are
ahead
of
voters
and
and
so
they
can
make
an
informed
Choice
just
like
you
can
access
your
sample
ballot
at
Buncombe
county.org
vote.
D
A
And
I
know
we
just
said
a
lot
about
voting
just
want
to
give
you
all
a
reminder
that
voting
registration,
the
deadline
to
register
or
change
party
affiliation
for
the
midterm
election
is
on
Friday
October,
the
14th
same
day.
Registration
will
be
available
at
in-person
early
voting
locations
in
person.
Early
voting
starts
Thursday,
October
20th
and
ends
Saturday
November
5th,
and
the
election
day
is
Tuesday
November
8th.
If
you
need
to
find
more
information
or
you
missed
something,
you
can
find
out
everything
you
need
at.
B
And
so
we
still
just
have
more
time
to
talk
about
these
referendums,
so
just
kind
of
circling
back,
so
we
know
some
listeners
may
have
just
tuned
in
if
you
just
want
to
give
a
brief
introduction
again
about
just
what
are
these
two
bonds
that
we
will
have
on
our
election
ballot
this
year.
So.
D
These
bonds
come
from
the
work
of
our
Board
of
Commissioners
right.
We
have
an
affordable
housing
subcommittee
that
has
clear
goals
about
what
they
are
trying
to
achieve
in
terms
of
improving
access
to
affordable
housing,
whether
that's
a
rental
unit,
whether
that's
an
apartment,
whether
that's
a
condo,
a
duplex,
a
single
stair,
single
structure,
home.
You
know,
we've
got
a
project
that
we're
working
on
at
Ferry
Road
right
now,
folks
may
have
heard
of
the
Ferry
Road
Project,
and
so
all
of
this
is
in
alignment
with
what
we're
seeing
happen
in
our
community
right.
D
We
all
know
that
it's
it's
very
difficult
to
secure
housing
and
it's
becoming
increasingly
difficult,
and
while
this
is
a
big
Buncombe,
County
problem,
it's
that
there
are
other
communities
who
are
experiencing
experiencing
this
as
well
one
of
the
mechanisms
that
we
have
to
help
alleviate.
That
is
to
ask
the
community
for
these
funds
so
that
we
can
expedite
the
construction
of
the
infrastructure.
That's
needed
to
create
housing,
that's
responsive
to
what
we're
seeing
in
the
community.
B
That
does
have
a
follow-up
question
around.
That
is
so
we
know
with
Buncombe
County
the
unincorporated
parts
of
the
county.
So
will
there
be
Partnerships
with
some
of
our
towns
and
city
on
these
projects
around
open
space
and
housing.
A
D
However,
getting
this
infusion
of
funding
helps
expedite
certain
projects
that
doesn't
if
these
bonds
are
not
approved,
it
doesn't
stop
us
from
trying
to
secure
State
funding,
Federal
funding,
private
funding
Partnerships
to
help
fill
in
those
gaps.
So
it
doesn't
change
the
work.
It
just
changed.
The
changes,
the
financing
mechanism,
and
maybe
the
speed
with
which
we
can
respond-
maybe
Civil
has
additional
thoughts
on
that.
C
A
A
C
A
C
Wanted
to
be
clear
for
our
listeners
that
there
will
be
two
separate
questions
on
the
ballot,
so
one
about
lower
moderate
income,
housing
and
the
other
one
about
conservation.
B
Yeah,
because
what
slipped
my
mind
at
that
moment,
because
when
you
hear
about
like
concert,
conservative
and
preserving
spaces
and
then
affordable,
housing
and
home,
it's
like
they're
competing
things
that
you
think
if
I'm
trying
to
get
more
housing,
you're
kind
of
go
into
Open
Spaces,
where
the
land
is
such
as
I
was.
That
was
running
through
my
mind,
just
like
all
these
people,
but
they're
not
competing
things.
B
These
are
things
that
work
in
congruent
with
each
other
to
kind
of
help
improve
the
community
what's
running
through
my
mind,
when
I
went
right,
yeah.
D
Got
a
lot
of
mountains
in
our
area,
then
we
all
enjoy
looking
at,
especially
in
these
October
days,
when
they're
so
pretty,
but
it
also
means
that
that
there's
no
way
for
us
to
bring
infrastructure
to
those
areas.
So
you'll
hear
our
affordable
housing
committee
and
you'll
hear
our
Board
of
Commissioners
talking
about
the
density
of
projects,
medium
density,
trying
to
make
sure
that
that
the
cons
that
the
infrastructure
that's
built
is
built
with
intentional
quality
around
supporting
as
many
people
in
a
way
that
aligns
with
our
community's
needs
and
desires.
D
So,
looking
at
you
know,
maybe
it's
you
know,
homes
that
are
connected,
but
they
aren't
high-rises,
so
you're
still
creating
density
in
ways
that
supports
sensible
and
responsible
development
in
our
community,
but
you're,
also
not
taking
away
all
of
the
Open
Spaces
and
places
for
us
to
to
recreate
and
be
together
and.
A
A
A
Who
they
are?
Okay,
that's
a
good
thing
yeah,
so
so
how
would
that?
How
would
conservation
also
help
with
the
bigger
population
here,
if.
C
Any
yeah,
well,
the
bond
language
I
believe
specifically
mentions
wildlife,
and
so
yes,
the
lands
that
we're
conserving
you
know
we
would.
We
would
look
to
set
aside
some
of
those
for
wildlife
use,
so
more
habitat
for
Bears.
D
Yeah-
and
you
know
this
discussion
around
affordable
housing
is
not
something
that's
new.
Our
commissioners
have
been
have
formed
this
affordable
housing
subcommittee
back
in
2004
right.
So
even
when
we
were
just
we
babes
I
can't
yeah
I
mean
we're
still
babes,
but
no
we're
we
babes.
D
They
were
having
this
conversation
in
our
community
about
how
do
we?
How
do
we
grow
extensively?
And
so
so?
This
is
not.
You
know
a
last
minute
decision
to
come
forward
and
have
this
discussion
with
voters,
but
actually
something
that's
been
many
years
in
the
making.
C
Not
sure
when
our
conservation
program
started,
but
it's
been,
it's
been
there
for
a
while
as
well.
It's
a
conservation,
easement
program
and
the
AG
board,
as
well
as
the
lcad
board,
which
works
with
our
land
conservation
organizations.
Yeah.
D
A
D
At
the
direction
of
our
Board
of
Commissioners,
and
so
these
options
before
voters
represent
that
that
long-term
thinking
of
how
do
we
continue
to
grow
in
a
way,
that's
sensible
and
also
it
aligns
with
our
Buncombe
County
strategic
plan
right
and
and
one
of
simple's
favorite
things.
The
2043,
comprehensive.
A
Plan,
oh
yeah
as
well,
yes
and
I
know
you
all
listeners,
remember
the
2043
comprehensive
plan
because
Lena
and
I
drilled
you
all
with
that,
and
we
told
you
all
to
go
out
there
and
make
sure
you
take
it
and
we
gave
you
the
website
multiple
times
so
I
know
you
are
when
she
said.
2043
I
knew
your
ears
just
worked
out
because
you
remembered
so
we
have
five
minutes
left
and
I
want
to
each
I
want
to
ask
each
one
of
you
all.
D
For
me,
you
know
this
conversation
is
part
of
a
bigger
conversation
about
about
voting
right
and
I
know
that
you've
had
Corrine
Duncan
on
our
director
of
Elections,
talking
about
voter
and
voter
access
and
accessibility.
But
it's
really
important
to
us
in
Buncombe
County
that
we
try
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
the
opportunity
to
vote.
D
We
increased
the
number
of
early
voting
sites
this
year.
Previously
it
was
10
and
now
it's
12.,
so
I'm,
looking
at
a
map
of
early
voting
sites
and
I
kind
of
feel
like
wherever
you
are
there's
an
early
voting
site,
that's
real
close
to
you
and
those
are
really
great,
because
you
can
also
check
the
Wait
Times
online.
D
We
don't
have
it
for
election
day,
but
during
early
voting,
and
you
can
see
that
that
there's
two
people
in
line
and
you're
not
going
to
have
to
spend
long
when
you
head
out
to
the
Leicester
Community
Center
or
the
Fairview
library
or
the
Black
Mountain
Library,
you
know
what
your
weight
is
going
to
be,
and
so
that
helps
you
make
voting
part
of
your
part
of
your
day.
The
other
thing
that
that
I'm,
really
happy
about
with
voting
this
year
is
that
access
has
been
expanded.
A
D
To
a
recent
Court
ruling,
anyone
if
even
if
you
are
have
been
involved
with
the
justice
system,
as
long
as
you
are
not
currently
incarcerated,
you
can
vote,
and
so
that
means
that
a
lot
of
people
have
the
opportunity
to
let
their
voice
be
heard.
Whether
it's
on
these
Bond
measures,
whether
it's
on
a
municipal
election
or
you
know
you
just
want
to
vote
on
one
thing.
You
still
have
that
opportunity
to
go
in
and
and
have
your
voice
heard.
D
C
This
is
really
part
of
the
big
question
of
what
do
we
want
to
look
like
20
years
from
now
so
I
see
the
bond
referendum
playing
into
that
and
I
want
to.
Let
folks
know
that
we
do
have
a
draft
version
of
that
plan,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
our
next
public
engagement
window
on
the
comprehensive
plan
is
going
to
be
to
get
public
input
on
that.
So
I
encourage
everyone
to
to
do
that.
It's
so
important,
your
vision
is
our
vision.
C
So
please
share
what
you
what
you
envisioned
Malcolm
County
to
be
20
years
from
now
and.
B
About,
like
the
address
the
where
you
can
find
that
information
again
that'll
be
www.unclecounty.org,
2022
bonds,
that's
where
you
can
find
information
about
both
of
these
bonds,
so
that
you
can
make
the
best
decision
for
yourself
and
for
the
community
and
just
a
reminder
again
that
early
voting
does
start
Thursday
October
the
20th
and
runs
through
Saturday
November.
The
5th
and
election
day
is
Tuesday
November,
the
8th.
So
let
your
voice
be
heard,
make
a
plan
and.
D
Go
out
there
and
vote
and
take
a
friend
and
polls
are
open
on
Election
Day,
starting
at
6
30
a.m.
So
for
all
y'all
early
birds.
That's
not
me!
6
30
a.m.
I'm
more
of
the
7
30
p.m,
when
it
closes
kind
of
gal.
But
but
the
polls
are
open
all
day
on
Election
Day.
A
Yeah
and
it's
great
and
we
have
the
the
12
locations
this
year,
we
might
want
to
consider
putting
one
in
a
Target
next
year.
I
know
I
will
be
there
every
Saturday
and
so
I
would
vote.
But
thank
you
all
so
much
for
for
sharing
this
knowledge
with
our
listeners
today
and
to
everyone
out
there.
I
know
you
feel,
like
oh
they're,
just
beating
us
over
our
head
with
vote
this
and
vote
that
and
vote
we're,
not
telling
you
how
to
vote.
A
We're
not
telling
you
what
we
are
telling
you
when
about
the
days
that
you
need
to
go,
but
we're
not
telling
you
and
we're
not
controlling
you
to
vote
we're
telling
you
to
lift
every
pin
and
sing.
You
have
to
give
your
voice
and
your
opinion
to
be
included
in
this
community,
whether
what
you
want
passes
or
the
person
you
want,
it
wins
or
not.
A
You've
you
casting
your
vote,
shows
that
you
actively
participated
in
that
and
you
want
to
be
in
the
part
of
history
of
actively
participating
and
not
the
ones
who
sat
back
and
watched
the
clouds
go
by,
and
so
on
that
note
warm
days.
Chilly
nights
to
you
all
until
next
time,
this
is
tapped
in.