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The 4th of a 5 part series that we will be doing about the Community Reparations Commission that is taking place here in Buncombe and the City of Asheville. Our special guests Tara Brown and Dwayne Richardson. They here to discuss the work and progress of the Economic Development Impact Focus Area, a workgroup of the Commission. Learn more about this workgroup and some of the documented harms and draft recommendations to address those harms. Most importantly how community can support the commission and engage in the process.
A
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to
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Buncombe
County's
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in
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resources.
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and
topics
learn
more
about
the
topics
of
today's
show
at
buncombecounty.org.
Okay,
it's
time
to
get
tapped
in
hello,
hello,
hello
and
greetings
to
all
that.
Listening
to
my.
B
A
C
Episode
is
the
fourth
in
the
five
part
series
that
we
are
doing
about
the
community
reparation
commission
that
has
taken
place
here
in
Brooklyn
County
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
I
would
like
to
introduce
our
special
guest
Tara,
Brown
and
Dwayne
Richardson.
They
are
here
to
discuss
the
work
in
progress
of
the
economic
development
impact,
Focus
area,
a
work.
A
Want
to
introduce
ourselves
Sweet
Pea,
oh
my
name
is
Buffalo.
Thank
you
for
having
me
thank
you
for
being
here.
He
is
one
of
our
youth
members
in
the
community
and
we
love
to
have
our
youth
here,
but
before
we
get
started,
I
would
love
to
give
you
all
some
context
about
this
commission.
The
community
reparation
commission
is
empowered
to
make
recommendations
that
will
make
significant
progress
towards
repairing
the
damage
caused
by
public
and
private
systematic
racism.
A
A
A
Easton
Valley
Street
Shiloh,
South,
Side,
Stumptown,
Asheville
housing
authority
and
the
Heart
of
chestnut
the
commissions
receives
ongoing,
supports
from
the
city
and
county
staff
to
ensure
cohesion
throughout
commission
terms
are
two
years
from
the
appointment
and
they
will
be
in
in
March
between
March
and
April
of
2024.
Those
impact
Focus
areas
are
criminal,
justice,
Health
and
Wellness
housing,
education,
Economic
and
Development.
Sorry
about
that,
so
let's
jump
right
into
it
so
Tara
and
Dwayne.
Can
you
tell
us
about
yourselves?
First
Sarah.
B
So
my
name
is
Tara
Brown
and
I
am
honored
to
facilitate
the
economic
development
working
group
of
the
Asheville
and
Brooklyn
County
Recreations
commission
I
have
had
a
career
in
community
Economic,
Development
and
believe
very
deeply
in
racial
Equity.
My
day,
job
is
that
I
work
for
Self-Help
Credit,
Union
and
I'm.
The
director
of
community
engagement
for
Western
North
Carolina
for
a
Self-Help
Credit
Union,
awesome
hi.
My
name
is
Dwayne
Richardson
I
am
a
small
business
owner
I
focus
primarily
on
residential
land
development
and
delivering
affordable
housing.
A
B
C
A
B
I
feel
like
it's
really
time
that
reparations
are
made
and
I
feel
very
grateful
to
be
part
of
this
group
where
you
know,
I
live
in
Asheville
now
I'm,
not
from
Asheville,
but
this
is
where
I
am
I
own,
a
home
I've
I'm
going
to
be
here,
I
have
a
son.
This
is
where
we
are,
and
I
really
want
to
be
a
part
of
this
community
and
listening
to
what
black
Ashville
wants
for
reparations
and
making
sure
that
I
do
my
part
in
making
it
happen.
B
Well,
quite
honestly,
I
have
to
begin
by
giving
a
shout
out
to
my
best
friend
in
the
world
Matthew,
because
he
was
the
reason
that
I
decided
to
join
or
apply.
If
you
will
for
the
reparations
commission,
he
strongly
urged
me
to
get
involved,
so
props
must
be
given
to
him.
First
I'm
grateful
to
be
a
part
of
it.
My
family
has
a
history
here.
B
A
To
the
to
the
black
community,
so
so
in
many
ways,
my
desire
to
be
a
part
of
the
reparations
commission
stems
back
to
ancestral
experiences
that
I
saw
and
and
maybe
in
some
small
way
being
able
to
help
to
to
make
rights
and
things
that
were
done.
They
were
wrong
and
and
also
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
give
another
shout
out
to
Tara
Brown,
who
has
been
a
passionate
leader
within
our
reparations
commission
and
all
the
things
that
she
just
said.
A
She
she
brings
passionately
to
the
table
and
she
works
tirelessly
for
us
to
to
make
sure
we're
prepared
for
everything
that
we
do
and
and
she's
clearly,
both
the
community
and
emotionally
involved
in
the
process.
Yeah,
and
so
you
said
the
process
so
before
we
get
too
far
in.
Can
you
tell
us
about
where?
When
and
how?
Often
you
all
are
meeting
and.
A
B
A
A
I
I
think
that
each
each
IFA
is
a
a
subset
of
impact
areas
in
which
the
community
was
affected
by
discrimination
and
things
of
that
nature
and
we'll
strongly
keep
referring
back
to
urban
renewal
and
the
impact.
But
reparations
goes
farther
much
farther
back
in
Nashville's
history,
but
each
of
the
groups
is
a.
C
Subset
of
the
mindset
of
things
we
have
to
address
Economic,
Development
health
and
wellness,
education,
housing,
criminal
justice
and
I
think
I'm
leaving
out
one,
but
but
each
of
those
have
a
special
place
in
the
community
and
how
the
community
has
been
impacted
and
if
we
can
deliver
recommendations
and
address,
harms
and
try
and
try
and
set
things
in
motion
that
will
address
those
areas.
I
think
we
can
have
an
impact,
and
so
we
know
what
reparations
is
often
is
discussing
to
redress
or
address
harms
that
happen
in
the
community.
B
Thank
you
so
much
so
the
city
and
county
passed
in
the
summer
of
2020
reparations
resolutions
that
really
outline
a
lot
of
the
harms
that
have
happened.
So
Mr
Richardson
spoke
already
to
what
has
happened
with
urban
renewal,
and
we
know
that
that
is
in
a
lot
of
people's
lived
experience
and
memory
and
that
that
impact
is
still
very
much
felt
today
with
people
who
are
on
the
commission,
people
who
live
in
Asheville.
So
that
is
definitely
one
that
we're
focused
on.
B
So
there's
a
lot
and
it's
deep
and
and
yeah
I
would
encourage
anyone
who's
interested
to
take
a
look
at
those
resolutions
and
read
what
we
are
charged
with
addressing,
and
we
have
to
remind
ourselves
all
of
the
time
too,
because
sometimes
people
in
the
commission
will
say
I,
don't
know,
we've
never
done
any
program
like
this.
This
will
cost
so
much
money.
B
I
I
think
that
one
of
the
most
difficult
tasks
of
what
we're
doing
is
fancy
word
for
counting
it
up,
but
the
quantification
of
the
impact
is
one
of
the
hardest.
Things
is
to
say.
Well,
you
know
what
was
the
economic?
What
was
the
financial
impact?
Where
was
it
most
felt?
How
can
we
fix
that?
If
it
was
housing
and
property
was
taking
taken?
What
is
the.
D
Solution
to
try
and
re-empower
people
who
were
disempowered
during
the
economic
theft
no
other
way
to
quit
state,
but
one
of
the
individuals
that
works
with
us.
There's
several
people
on
the
commission
that
that
I
want
to
make
sure
I've
mentioned
today.
D
Williams
has
worked
exceptionally
hard
to
help
with
creating
obtaining
data
to
to
to
illuminate
what
the
problem
is
and
thus
help
us
to
quantify
what
the
harm
was
and
and
create
Pathways
towards
restoration
of
funds.
D
C
The
Burton
Street
Community,
one
of
the
historic
black
neighborhoods
in
Nashville.
It
worked
tirelessly
for
many
years
to
to
bring
programs
and
opportunities
to
to
West
Asheville.
There
are
others
that
that
I
could
go
on
and
on
about,
but
from
the
economic
development
perspective.
Those
are
the
individuals
who
have
put
their
finger
on
the
scale
and
I'm
hoping
to
move
the
media,
and
so
I
know
you
had
kind
of
talked
about
like
personally
of
the
experience
and
the
things
that
you
have.
B
C
B
Thank
you
so
much.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
of
Partners
who
have
attended.
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
research
going
on
in
Asheville
around
the
impact
and
the
history
of
economic
development
in
the
city.
How
we
got
to
where
we
are
today,
so
we've
had
Dr
Kathleen
Lawler
from
UNCA
coming
to
talk
about
her
research
and
the
students
she's
working
with
at
UNCA
to
understand
the
economic
losses
that
occurred
during
bourbon
renewal
and
to
quantify
as
Mr
Richardson
was
saying,
the
dollar
value
of
homes
that
were
lost.
B
So
we
can
say
these
were
successful.
Black
communities
that
were
destroyed
disrupted
during
urban
renewal
of
these
homes
were
taken,
this
generation
or
wealth
was
lost,
and
what's
the
dollar
amount
of
that
and
we've
also
Mr
Richardson
has
given
some
feedback
on
that
research
in
terms
of
his
knowledge
of
Housing
and
housing
costs
to
make
sure
that
that
is
an
accurate
assessment
and
not
undervaluing
what
was
taken.
We've
also
had
Catherine
Hutzel
from
the
Buncombe
County
Special
collections.
A
B
Is
she
has
done
a
lot
of
research
into
the
history
of
tourism
in
Asheville,
the
role
of
domestic
workers
and
enslaved
workers,
as
it
relates
to
tourism,
and
how
black
employees
in
Asheville
were
underpaid
for
a
lot
of
times,
or
only
had
access
to
lower
wage
jobs
and
what
that
discrimination
looked
like
and
how
that
played
out
in
the
development
of
Asheville?
So
we
have
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
historians
and
analysts
come
in
to
present
to
us
racial.
D
Justice
Coalition
throw
their
name
in
there,
so
many
I'm
sure
I'm
leaving
out
some
so
I
feel
bad.
That
I
am
leaving
out
names,
but
but
yeah
we've
had
a
great
deal
of
assistance.
The
community,
as
as
embraced
the
process
and
many
people
who
Priscilla
I
am
her
last
name
is
Jason
Robinson.
Thank
you.
She
has
provided
it
a
tremendous
amount
of
information.
Todd
Gregg
recently
did
the
black
and
Asheville
documentary,
which
was
extremely
well
done.
B
A
B
B
I
wish
Kim
Jones
could
be
here
today,
because
this
is
really
an
idea
that
the
group
has
been
working
on,
but
I
think
she
has
drafted
the
most
concrete
version
of
it
and
it's
really
putting
it
together.
But
the
idea
is
to
have
a
Economic
Development
Center
for
black
Asheville
to
support
small
businesses,
Workforce
Development
financial
literacy,
access
to
Capital-
that
is
all
designed
for
black
people
in
Asheville
and
led
by
black
people
in
Asheville,
because
a
lot
of
the
economic
development
organizations
have
not
been
black.
Led
there's
been.
B
You
know,
of
course,
across
decades,
like
in
any
other
other
industry,
a
history
of
discrimination,
disparities
and
who
gets
loans,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
think
everyone
in
the
group
is
really
excited
about
this
proposal
for
an
economic
development
center
and
really
giving
a
place
where
people
can
come
if
they
want
to
start
a
business
if
they're
looking
for
a
job
if
they
need
support
with
their
business,
that
has
local
experts
and
connections
to
resources.
B
In
addition
to
that,
there's
an
idea
of
rebuilding
black
business
corridors,
because
that
has
existed
in
the
past
as
we
know,
on
the
Block
in
other
areas
and
no
longer
exists.
So
what
would
it
take
to
have
commercial
space
is
for
black
businesses,
black
business
corridors
in
proximity
to
black
neighborhoods.
A
D
We're
also,
if
you
will
challenged
by
the
fact
that
we,
our
time
together,
is
limited.
We
we
have
one
full
commission
meeting
per
month
and
we
all
go
to
our
IFA
individual
committees
in
some
cases
twice
a
month
and
and
make
a
mistake,
everyone
that
is
doing
it
there's
a
small
stipend,
but
no
one
is
doing
it
for
that,
and
the
time
that
is
donated
to
it
is
is,
is
a
lot.
C
C
B
Events
organized
with
the
racial
Justice,
Coalition
I
think
we're
interested
in
that
the
Commissioners
are
going
into
a
retreat
on
Saturday,
which
will
really
give
us
an
opportunity
to
think
across
the
different
issue
areas
and
how
all
of
these
recommendations
are
interconnected,
which
I
think
we
know
but
I
think
it'll
be
a
really
good
place
for
the
Commissioners
to
feel
good
about
the
recommendations
and
I
think
our
group
is
interested
in
in
doing
that,
but
we
just
we
haven't
done
it
yet.
Well,.
D
B
Given
what
Sarah
was
just
saying
after
the
retreat
I
think
that
Economic
Development
can
emerge
with
the
intention
of
doing
some
community-based
things.
Economic
development
is
such
a
broad
set
of
ideas
to
bring
together
we
kind
of
needed
some
time,
whereas
others
they
could
other
ifas,
in
my
opinion,
go
first
to
the
community
and
come
back.
C
With
with
recommendations
from
the
community
and
and
act
upon
those
things
from
Economic
Development
perspective,
it's
a
little
bit
different
in
that
you,
you
have
to
identify
all
of
the
things
that
are
out
there.
That
need
to
be
addressed
economically,
then
put
together
a
plan
that
you
want
to
put
forward
to
the
community
and
then
after
the
after
all
of
that
then
go
back
to
the
community
and
say
hey
here's.
What
we're
trying
to
do
so
a
lot
of
words
to
say
we're
about
ready
to
do
that.
C
A
D
People
are
encouraged,
they're
wondering
what
we're
doing
they're
wondering
if
we're
making
progress.
You
know
it's
like
anything,
you
get
some
negative,
you
get
some
positive,
but
everyone's
passionate,
no
matter
what
side
of
them.
You
know,
I
think
that,
like
like
any
Grand
project,
when
you
first
start,
you
can't
really
tell
that
it's
like
doing
a
Housing
Development.
When
you're
cutting
down
trees,
you
can't
see
the
houses
yet,
but
the
houses
are
in
the
plan,
yeah
and
so
we're
cutting
down
the
trees
now
and
we're
about
to
build
the
house
cool.
A
Yeah
and
I
think
one
thing
that
she
says
that
folks
are
passionate
on
either
side,
but
it's
about
you
know
just
looking
at
it
and
doing
what's
great
for
folks
and
so
with
seeing.
That
is
how
how
does
it?
How
do
you-
and
that
was
a
long
process-
a
lot
of
stuff?
You
said
that
you
know
basically
diving
through
200
years
or
more
of
systems
that
have
been
created
to
make
these
things
happen,
to
people
and
to
black
folks.
So
how
what
keeps
you
motivated?
What
keeps
you
going?
D
B
Recently,
as
my
mother
and
my
grandparents,
so
so
for
me
it's
a
personal,
but
yet
it's
historical
yeah.
Thank
you,
I!
Think
for
me,
it's
about
the
world
that
I
want
to
live
in,
which
is
not
the
world
that
exists
right
now
and
I.
Think
about
my
son,
who's
one
and
a
half
growing
up
here
and
I'll
just
be
very
Frank
when
we
moved
to
Asheville
and
even
before
we
moved
to
actual-
and
we
were
thinking
about
it
and
I
would
go
into
a
restaurant
and
it
was
only
white
people.
B
I
thought
what
happened
here,
that
there's
only
white
people
in
this
restaurant
and
I
think
as
I
started
to
learn
before
we
even
moved
here.
I
wanted
to
know
some
of
that
history,
so
I
went
on
Dwayne,
Barton's,
Hood,
Huggers
tour
and
started
researching
some
of
the
things
and
then
got
involved
when
I
moved
here
and
I.
Think
it's
very
clear
why?
Why
that's
the
case
and
who
has
access
to
certain
spaces
and
who's
been
taken
out
of
certain
spaces?
B
A
So
we
are
almost
out
of
time,
and
it
makes
me
sad
because
I
know
there's
so
much
more
day
you
all
will
have
to
offer,
but
before
we
leave
I
always
love
our
guests.
To
give
one
thing
that
they
want
to
leave
with
our
audience
and
since
Tara
just
spoke,
I'll
go
ahead
and
shoot
it
back
to
you,
Mr
Wing,
and
you
can
add
what
you
want
our
audience
to
leave
with
that's
a
tough
one.
A
I
want
the
community
to
believe
in
the
process
to
be
patient
with
us
in
the
sense
that
we
are
working
as
hard
as
we
can.
Everyone
is
dedicated
to
it.
We
are.
We
are
trying
to
remain
mindful
of
each
Community.
Asheville
has
to
offer
the
historicals
from
the
East
End
to
Shiloh,
to
Burton
Street
to
the
north
side,
we're
trying
to
remain
Marvel
of
all
of.
D
Those
we
are
tasked
with
a
very
difficult
project,
but
if
the
community
will
remain
patient
with
us,
stay
in
support
of
the
commission,
I
think
that
we
will
emerge
of
something
that
will
be
beneficial
to
our
communities
and
we'll
we'll
never
be
able
to
undo
all
of
the
harms
that
were
perpetrated.
However,
we
can
potentially
create
a
brighter
future.
B
Thank
you
so
I
would
say.
Now
is
the
time
if
you
have
not
given
your
input
yet
grab
someone
you
know
who
is
on
the
commission
grab.
You
know
someone
from
your
neighborhood
association
and
let
them
know
what
you
think,
because
we're
really
finalizing
the
recommendations
at
this
point.
So
if
you
want
something-
and
you.
C
Let
allowing
our
listeners
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
the
economic
development,
IFA
or
part
of
the
reparations
commission,
and
so,
as
we
heard
with
their
closing
statements
of
believing
in
the
process
and
also
letting
your
horse
being
heard,
we
strongly
encourage
Community
to
come
out.
Let's
support
the
reparations
commission
initiative-
that's
happening
here
in
Buffalo
County
in
Asheville,
and
we
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
the
economic
development,
if
you
like
the
information
that
you
hear
today,
want
to
learn
more
about
it.
C
C
B
C
We
also
there's
other
ways
that
you
can
get
caught
up
on
this
process,
not
just
these.
It's
in
great
Japanese
interviews
over
the
past
few
weeks
to
learn
more
about
the
impact
Focus
areas,
but
you
always
can
go
to
the
city,
engagement,
Hub
and
that's
that
bump.
It's
at
public,
input.com,
backslash,
abl
reparations
and
from
there
you
can
find
many
videos
and
catch
up
on
the.
C
In
here
the
work
and
the
progress
that's
been
happening
so
again
that
information,
if
you
want
to
go
online,
but
for
me
you're,
ask
yourself:
we
had
a
lot
of
the
work.
That's
been
done
so
far.
That
again
is
public
input.com,
backslash,
AVL
reparations,
and
with
that
that's
a
strong
income
I
strongly
encourage
Community
to
participate
in
this
process.
I'd
like
to
say
before
we
leave
thank.
D
A
A
A
You
know
we,
we
think
if
change
is
so
hard,
but
when
change
has,
when
change
has
been
denied,
it
becomes
even
harder
for
those
who
has
been
denied
too
so
here
in
Brown
County.
We
we
live
by,
we
are
one
bunkum
and
the
only
way
we're
going
to
be
one
Buncombe
is
if
we
heal
the
hearts
of
those
who
have
been
broken.
A
You
can't
disagree,
if
you
don't
know
what's
going
on
and
you
can't
agree
if
you
haven't
been
involved
and
so
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
are
one
Buncombe
and
you
only
become
part
of
one
welcome
when
you
step
into
that
place,
so
find
your
place.
Find,
Your,
Mark
and
find
your
listening
ears,
and
until
next
time,
you've
been
tapped
in.