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Burbank City Council Meeting - September 12, 2023
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Good
evening
and
welcome
to
a
joint
meeting
of
the
Burbank
City
council,
with
successor
agency,
Housing
Authority
parking
authority,
public
financing,
Authority
and
youth
endowment
Services
fund
board
Tuesday
September
12
2023.
before
we
begin
join
us
for
a
moment
of
reflection.
This
moment
is
intended
to
begin
our
meeting
with
a
positive
and
Collective
support
for
our
Beloved
Community
city
council.
Welcomes
everyone
joining
us
this
evening.
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We
encourage
you
to
take
a
moment
to
reflect
on
our
community
and
the
work
we'll
be
doing
tonight,
although
each
of
us
has
our
own
unique
reasons
for
being
here,
we
are
united
in
our
passion
for
our
wonderful
city.
As
we
pause,
let
us
consider
our
individual
contributions
and
what
they
mean
to
those
around
us
and
let
us
find
solace
in
knowing
that
by
working
together
with
a
shared
Spirit
of
community
and
partnership,
we
will
always
act
responsibly
for
the
betterment
of
Burbank.
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We
would
like
to
advise
the
community
that
there
will
be
five
periods
of
public
comment
tonight.
Members
of
the
public
May
comment
in
person
or
by
telephone
during
the
general
public
comment
period
and
public
comment
for
the
reports
to
council
will
be
taken
in
person
only
if
you
would
like
to
participate
in
the
general
public
comment
over
the
phone.
Please
call
now
818-238-3335
callers
will
be
placed
in
a
queue
until
all
in-person
comments
have
been
received.
Additional
in-person
only
public
comment
period
will
be
available
after
each
report
to
council
up.
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If
you
lived
in
Burbank
for
more
than
one
year
and
received
fault
notice
to
vacate
the
new
renters
relocation
program
may
be
able
to
assist
you.
This
program
provides
financial
assistance
for
relocation,
expenses
to
lower
income
households
from
extremely
low
to
moderate
income,
who
have
received
a
notice
to
vacate
on
or
after
April
1st
2023,
due
to
no
fault
of
the
tenant
for
complete
program,
information
and
eligibility
requirements.
Please
visit
the
city's
website
at
burbankca.gov
Venture
relocation
for
questions
application
and
to
schedule
an
appointment.
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City
of
Burbank
has
launched
an
online
public
records
portal
which
allows
members
of
the
public
to
access
City
documents
electronically,
such
as
city,
council
resolutions,
ordinances
and
minutes.
In
addition
to
building
documents
such
as
permits,
inspection
records,
certificates
of
occupancies
and
more
to
access,
the
public
records
portal
visit,
burbankca.gov,
city-clerks
Dash
office.
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The
volunteers
of
the
Burbank
animal
shelter
invite
you
to
participate
in
the
fourth
annual
online
auction
for
animals,
fundraiser,
beginning
Friday,
September
15th
through
Sunday
September
17th.
The
fundraiser
will
feature
over
200
items
from
Southwest,
Airlines,
Disneyland,
Universal,
Studios
and
others,
as
well
as
items
from
businesses
in
Burbank,
join
in
the
fun
and
support
the
Burbank
animal
shelter.
Please
visit
Burbank
animal
shelter.org
to
start
bidding
on
your
favorite
items.
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The
city
clerk's
office
would
like
to
remind
everyone
that
National
voter
registration
day
is
Tuesday
September
19th.
You
can
register
online
at
www.lavote.gov
or
pick
up
a
voter
registration
card
in
the
city
clerk's
office
or
at
any
Burbank
library.
Registration
forms
will
also
be
available
at
the
Burbank
Farmers
Market.
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This
Saturday
September
16th
from
8
AM
to
12
pm
the
City
of
Burbank
and
the
Burbank
Unified
School
District
will
hold
the
clerk's
cup
voter
registration
contest
in
which
high
school
students
from
John
Burroughs,
High,
School
and
Burbank
High
School
compete
to
see
which
school
can
register
the
most
voters.
The
contest
runs
through
September
29th
for
more
information.
Please
contact
the
city
clerk's
office
at
818-238-5851.
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Sustainable
Burbank
commission
invites
you
to
the
next
go
green
Burbank
educational
series
event
Electrify
everything
join
us
on
September
30th
from
10
30
to
11
30
a.m
in
the
community
services,
building
discuss
the
health
and
economics
of
new
buildings
going
all-electric
and
The.
Crucial
need
to
move
away
from
fossil
fuels,
learn
more
on
how
to
Electrify
our
homes
and
businesses
using
bwp
rebate
program
incentives,
email
go,
greenburbank,
gmail.com
for
more
information.
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The
Burbank
City
Clerk's
Office
is
accepting
applications
for
one
scheduled
vacancy
on
the
Burbank
housing
Corporation
Board
of
Directors
for
a
two-year
term,
ending
October,
31st
2025..
The
deadline
to
apply
is
Monday
October,
2nd
at
5
pm.
If
interested
apply
online
at
www.burbankca.gov
BCC
application
for
more
information,
please
contact
the
Burbank
City
Clerk's
Office
at
818-238-5851
or
email
City,
Clerks
burbankca.gov.
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All
right,
the
we
have
three
Council
presentations
this
evening.
The
first
part
of
our
evening
is
recognizing
the
esteemed
members
of
the
City
of
Burbank
boards
commissions
and
committees.
Members.
You
are
truly
essential
components
of
our
community's
very
fabric
working
hand
in
hand
with
our
city,
council
and
our
dedicated
staff
and
our
fellow
residents.
You
play
a
pivotal
role
in
the
ongoing
Mission
To
Build,
a
Better
Burbank,
and
we
appreciate
you
so
I'm
going
to
invite
the
vice
mayor
to
join
me
at
the
front.
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I
Thank
you,
everyone
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
We're
all
really
excited
to
recognize
your
contributions
to
the
community.
Our
first
Rec,
a
group
of
recognese,
will
be
our
arts
and
public
places
commission.
So
if
you
can
come
on
up
yeah,
thank
you.
You're
out
of
applause.
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Cat,
yes,
this
is
oh.
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I
Now,
for
this
one
we
actually
have
two
special
recognitions.
First,
we
have
Mr
Steve
magumian,
completing
five
years
of
service
with
the
City
of
Burbank
I,
don't
believe
he's
here.
I
Thank
you,
and
let
me
just
mention
that
we
have
Miss
Melanie
renfroe
here
celebrating
five
years
of
service.
Thank
you
Melanie
and
I.
Don't
believe
she's
with
us,
Mr
Mayor,
but
Dr
Emily
Weisberg,
also
School
Board
member
celebrating
five
years
of
service
as
well.
So
we'll
give
it
up
for
Dr
Weisberg.
I
The
next
group
we're
going
to
call
up
is
our
Burbank
Glendale
Pasadena
Airport
Authority
Commissioners.
Do
we
have
them
in
the
house?
Oh
no!
Anybody
we'll
put
that
on
second
call,
then
great
and
next
up.
We
need
our
folks
who
help
us
keep
the
lights
on,
and
the
water
running,
Burbank,
Water
and
Power
board
come
on
up.
I
And
unfortunately,
Mr
Mayor
I
don't
see
Miss
Laura
Tenenbaum
here,
but
she
too
is
celebrating
five
years
of
service.
So
thank
you,
Laura.
If
you're
listening.
I
I
I
I
I
And
it
looks
like
we
don't
have
Vanessa
with
us,
but
we'll
make
sure
she
gets
that
recognition
black
as
well,
how
many
years,
five
years,
I'm
sorry
10
years,
10.
I
I
And
now,
if
we
can
have
our
our
challenge,
our,
what
should
I
say
the
group
that
probably
has
the
most
hardship
that
faces
the
most
adversity
at
times
are
Planning
Commission
land
use.
Here
we
go
come
on
up.
I
And
we
got
two
recipients:
I'm
gonna.
Let
them
take
the
picture,
but
I
want
to
note
Samantha
Wick
five
years
of
service
to
the
City
of
Burbank.
Thank
you,
Samantha
and
I.
Take
your
photo.
You
guys
take
your
photo
first
and
then
I'll
I'll
hand
that,
over
to
you
and
I,
also
want
to
acknowledge
so
Mr
rizzotti
here
actually
wears
two
hats.
You
saw
him
a
few
minutes
ago
on
our
Charter
Review
Committee
10
years
of
service
to
the
City
of
Burbank
Chris.
Congratulations.
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I
Thank
you,
Transportation
Commission,
congratulations
and
next.
If
we
can
have
Burbank
youth
board,
2022
2023
anyone
here
from
the
youth
board,
anyone
want
to
feel
younger
come
on
up
well,
thank
you
to
our
youth
board
members
I'm
going
to
do
one
more
call
out.
Do
we
have
our
Airport
Authority
members
here,
I,
don't
think
so!
Well,
we
do.
I
Well,
I
think
we
had
a
former
mayor
and
commissioner
Gable
Luddy
I,
don't
think
she's
still
here,
but
I
just
wanted
the
community.
Perhaps
you
can
hold
this
Mr
Mayor
former
mayor
Jess,
talamante's,
30
years
of
service
to
the
City
of
Burbank
Jess.
Thank
you.
I
30
years
looks
good
on
you.
Mr
Mayor
also
just
wanted
to
mention
that
while
they
aren't
able
to
be
here
tonight,
we
did
want
to
acknowledge
and
thank
members
of
the
Burbank
housing,
Corporation
board
of
directors
and
Marcia
Ramos
Metropolitan
water
district
directors.
If
you
could
give
it
up
to
them
as
well.
I
Okay,
before
I
go
back
to
the
Deus
I
just
wanted
to
convey
again
on
behalf
of
the
Council
on
behalf
of
the
mayor,
a
special
thank
you
to
all
of
you
that
make
Burbank
such
a
special
place
to
live
to
work.
To
play.
Look
all
of
us
on
the
city
council
work
hard
to
try
to
make
this
community
the
best
it
can
be,
but
it's
really
each
and
every
one
of
you
who
are
out
there
talking
to
constituents,
raising
concerns
and
solutions
to
the
council
level
simply
put
the
staff,
the
council.
I
D
Thank
you
Mr
vice
mayor
traditionally,
for
those
who
don't
know
when
we
do
boards
and
commissions,
it's
always
the
vice
mayor's
show,
and
so
we
had
a
little
bit
of
different
schedule
tonight,
but
he
did
great.
He
did
great
okay.
Next
up,
we
have
the
presentation
of
a
proclamation
declaring
September
15th.
Oh
yes,
oh,
when
did
pause.
We
need
to
pause
for
two.
Do
we
take
a
break?
D
Oh
I
see
all
right
so
I'm
gonna
Vamp
for
about
two
minutes,
because
we
got
people
coming
in
for
the
next
presentation.
I'll
talk
about
it
real
slow,
so
we're
going
to
be
declaring
September
15th
through
October
15th
2023
as
Hispanic
Heritage
Month.
So
we
got
so
there
you
go
there,
you
go
so
we
got
some
folks
coming
in.
For
this,
don't
worry
it's
worth
the
wait.
It's
worth
the
wait.
M
Mr
Mayor,
if
I
may
yeah,
as
people
are
walking
out
I
just
wanted
to
thank
also
on
behalf
of
the
council
I'd
like
to
thank
you
all
for
your
service,
proud
to
have
you
part
of
our
city.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
everything
you
do
looking
forward
to
seeing
y'all
on
Thursday
on
the
parks
and
rec
and
other
boards.
So
thank
you
so
much.
B
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B
D
B
O
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O
A
O
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D
All
right,
hello,
welcome,
okay,
yeah
yeah
go
ahead!
That's
all
right!
Accepting
the
proclamation
this
evening
is
United
States,
petty
officer
and
sailor
of
the
quarter.
Miguel
Escobar
and
Burbank
assistant,
City
attorney
Rodolfo
aguado,
III
I
want
to
invite
them
up
both
right
now,
and
we
also
have
a
number
of
employees
of
Hispanic
heritage
who
are
here
this
evening
and
you
can
come
up
as
well.
We'd
like
to
get
everybody
up.
Please
join
us
up
here.
Yeah
come
on,
go
get
everybody.
D
D
Community.
Now,
therefore,
I
Constantine
Anthony,
mayor
of
the
City
of
Burbank,
do
hereby
Proclaim
September
15
2023
to
October
15
2023
as
National
Hispanic
Heritage
Month
in
the
City
of
Burbank
to
commemorate
the
influence
and
contributions
of
Hispanic
Americans
on
our
community,
signed
this
12th
day
of
September
2023.
Q
Good
evening
I'm
Rodolfo
guado
I'm
assistant,
City
attorney
for
City
of
Burbank,
on
behalf
of
the
Hispanics
and
attendance
and
in
the
city
I'd
like
to
thank
the
mayor,
the
city
council
and
the
members
and
and
residents
of
Burbank
for
observing
Hispanic
Heritage
Month
growing
up.
My
parents
emphasized
that
my
sisters
and
I
should
be
proud
of
our
Spanish
Mexican
and
Puerto
Rican
Heritage
in
our
house.
We
learned
about
Zapata
and
Clemente.
Q
We
listened
to
Linda
Ronstadt
and
Jose
Feliciano,
but
outside
of
the
home,
it
felt
like
the
contributions
and
the
stories
of
Hispanics
were
often
not
well
known
or
not
well
understood.
For
instance,
we
all
learned
about
Brown
V
board
of
education,
but
it
wasn't
until
recently
that
we
learned
a
little
bit
more
about
Mendes
the
Westminster
School
District,
which
is
the
case
in
which
Mexican-American
families
challenged
successfully
School
segregation
in
California
as
a
Hispanic
attorney
and
a
father.
Q
It
really
makes
an
impact
on
me
to
see
awareness
of
such
an
important
legal
precedent
be
spread
to
all
people.
It's
really
important
to
me
to
see
that
Hispanic
families
were
at
the
heart
of
that
effort.
Q
So
to
me,
observing
Hispanic,
Heritage
Month
is
not
just
an
opportunity
to
celebrate
and
learn
more
about
hispanic
cultures
and
contributions,
but
also
an
opportunity
for
all
of
us
to
reaffirm
our
commitment
to
a
more
just
Society
for
all
people
and
for
all
generations,
and
for
that
I
think
the
mayor
of
the
council
and
the
city
for
observing
Hispanic
Heritage
Month.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
P
Well,
not
just
good
evening
everybody,
my
name
is
Miguel
Escobar
I'm,
the
United
States
Navy,
as
you
can
tell
I,
was
born
in
race,
Michael,
City
I
migrated
to
Pomona,
California
and
living
in
the
area
into
agility.
Navy
growing
up
my
dream
was
to
be
be
accomplished,
something
and
especially
in
the
US
right
everything
all
my
hard
work.
Everything
can
be
dedicated
to
three
people,
my
mom,
my
wife
and
my
dad,
and
especially
the
people
that
support
me
all
the
way
through
through
here
I.
P
It
was
kind
of
hard
at
First,
Learning,
the
language
and
everything,
but
there's
something
that
my
mom
always
told
me
right
so
joining
the
military.
That's
that
was
my
goal,
accomplished
everything
and
seeing
how
many
Hispanics
are
in
the
military.
How
many
people
sometimes
I
feel
like
I'm
just
home,
because
all
everybody
we
all
have
different
backgrounds,
but
we
all
going
for
the
same
mission
right.
P
Thank
you.
Burping
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here.
It's
an
honor,
a
pleasure
to
receive
this
award
and
thank
you
for
everything
you
do
for
us.
D
Okay.
Gentlemen,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Our
final
presentation
is
the
proclamation
declaring
September
17th
to
the
23rd
National
forensic
week
in
the
City
of
Burbank
I
I
want
to
invite
Chief,
Albanese
and
Captain
puglisi.
There
you
go
there.
You
are
all
right,
along
with
the
Burbank
police
department's
forensic
unit
team,
join
me
at
the
podium
come
on
up.
D
Okay,
forensic
science
week
September
17th
to
the
23rd,
whereas
forensic
science
is
a
vital
public
service
and
whereas
access
to
Quality
forensic
analysis
greatly
improves
the
investigation
of
criminal
activity
and
can
lead
to
the
exoneration
of
the
innocent
as
well
as
the
prosecution
of
the
guilty.
And
whereas
forensic
science
plays
a
critical
role
in
public
safety
and
crime
prevention
and
continues
to
evolve
in
its
role
as
an
important
component
of
the
criminal
justice
system.
D
And
whereas
forensic
practitioners
provide
unbiased,
accurate
and
reliable
analysis
of
evidence
and
whereas
the
forensic
Personnel
of
the
Burbank
Police
Department
performed
their
duties
with
professionalism
and
dedication,
providing
a
vital
public
service
to
our
community.
Now,
therefore,
I
constant
Anthony
made
of
the
City
of
Burbank.
D
Do
you
hear
about
proclaim
the
week
of
September
17th
through
the
23rd
2023
as
forensic
science
week
in
the
City
of
Burbank,
the
city
council
of
the
City
of
Burbank
recognizes
and
honors
the
outstanding
service
of
the
city's
forensic
Personnel,
how
they
provide
for
safety
and
Welfare
for
our
community
signed
the
12th
day
of
September
2023.
good
Round
of
Applause.
S
So
recognition
and
reward
of
employees
that
work
hard
to
ensure
the
safety
of
the
city
and
the
citizens
that
live
in
it
is
important
and
I'm
happy
to
see
that
the
council's
chosen
to
do
that
tonight
tonight
we
have
with
us
our
forensic
supervisor
Carly
lot,
one
of
our
one
of
our
forensic
Services,
techs
or
Raisa
Ortega,
and
then
also
another
forensic
Services,
Tech
Diana
cerda
with
us
tonight.
So
they
do.
S
They
do
great
work,
they
have
a
great
deal
of
dedication
and
compassion
for
the
victims
that
they
that
they
that
they
interact
with
when
they're
out
there
at
crime
scenes
over
the
years.
Our
forensics
team
has
solved
and
helped
us
solve
thousands
of
of
crimes
and
bring
Justice
to
victims
and
we're
greatly
appreciative
for
the
work
they
do
and
just
another
shout
out
that
Carly
is
actually
our
civilian
employee
of
the
year
this
year
as
well.
So,
thank
you
so
much.
D
All
right
city
manager,
Justin
Hess,
do
you
have
anything
to
report.
R
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
yes,
I
do.
I
would
like
to
formally
introduce
our
new
Burbank
fire
chief
Danny
Alvarez
Chief
Alvarez
yeah.
R
Chief
Alvarez
was
recently
the
fire
chief
of
the
for
the
city
of
Santa
Monica
prior
to
that
he
dedicated
25
years
of
service
right
here
in
the
City
of
Burbank.
So
we
are
excited
to
have
him
back
home
here
in
Burbank,
so
without
further
Ado.
Please
join
me
in
welcoming
our
new
Burbank
fire
chief
Danny
Alvarez.
T
Thank
you,
mayor
Anthony,
vice
mayor
Schultz,
City,
Council,
I'm,
Danny
Alvarez,
your
newly
appointed
fire
chief
I
know
that
you
have
a
full
agenda
for
tonight.
So
I'll,
be
brief.
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
all
of
you
and
our
city
manager,
Justin
Hess,
for
this
opportunity
and
for
entrusting
me
with
carrying
out
the
mission
and
the
vision
of
the
Burbank
Fire
Department.
T
This
is
a
responsibility
that
I
do
not
take
lightly
and
I
will
work
tirelessly
for
all
of
you,
members
of
our
fire
department
and
for
our
community
to
ensure
that
the
Burbank
fire
department
remains
as
a
premier
fire
agency,
not
only
within
the
region
but
throughout
the
nation.
Again,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
It
is
truly
an
honor
to
serve
as
your
fire
chief
and
to
be
part
of
this
incredible
organization.
Thank
you,
foreign.
D
Thank
you,
Mr,
City
attorney.
Will
you
please
report
on
closed
session.
K
Just
Mr
Mayor
vice
mayor
members
of
the
council
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
viewing
and
attending
public
city
council,
met
this
afternoon
at
3
45
pm
to
discuss
one
matter
of
existing
litigation.
Pursuant
to
government
code,
section
54,
956
Point
D
0.91,
the
case
was
mid-century
Insurance
versus
the
City
of
Burbank
This
was
a
property
damage
case.
The
city
council
took
no
reportable
action
this
evening.
D
Thank
you.
Now
is
the
time
for
joint
general
public
comment
for
members
of
the
public
who
are
here
in
person
and
wish
to
speak.
Please
present
a
completed,
yellow
general
public
comment
card
to
Ms
Meredith.
You
can
talk
about
anything
on
the
agenda
or
anything
off
of
the
agenda.
If
you
do
talk
about
something
that
is
later
on
the
agenda,
you
won't
be
able
to
talk
about
it
when
that
agenda
item
comes
up.
D
Comments
are
limited
to
three
minutes,
and
if
you
want
to
call
in
right
now,
you
can
use
the
number
818-238-3335
callers
will
be
placed
in
a
queue
until
all
in-person
comments
have
been
received
before
we
go
to
public
comment,
I'm
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
personal
privilege
here
as
the
mayor
I
want
to
talk
about
something
very
quickly
that
happened
and
hopefully
cut
off
any
public
comment
that
may
come
this
way
over
the
weekend.
I
attended
a
private
adults
only
event.
There
was
some
Shenanigans,
some
silly
stuff
happened.
D
It
was
all
fun
and
games
unbeknownst
to
the
people
in
attendance.
There
was
a
secret
video
that
was
made
and
then
subsequently
shared
to
a
very
prominent
hate
group
that
has
now
seen
fit
to
inundate
the
four
members
here:
the
city
staff
and
many
members
of
our
community
with
some
of
the
most
vile
hate
speech,
I
have
ever
scene.
D
D
D
D
D
U
U
So,
first
of
all,
thank
you
again
to
the
city
council,
to
the
previous
City
councils,
to
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
to
the
valley,
cultural
Foundation,
to
gain
one
of
our
sponsors
to
the
Musicians
Guild
AFM
47,
because
thanks
to
all
of
them,
we
can
do
this
free,
Saturday,
September,
30th,
Johnny,
Carson
Park.
U
U
There
will
be
food
trucks,
there
will
be
vendors,
art
vendors,
it
will
be
a
fabulous
event
and
again,
if
you,
if
the
news
wants
to
interview
me
about
this,
the
cameraman
is
looking
at
his
phone.
So
that
might
not
happen.
U
Please
do
because
this
is
a
wonderful
event
for
our
community
bringing
lots
of
creative
groups
together.
We'll
have
booths
there
representing
a
number
of
our
dance
groups,
theater
groups
Etc,
so
it
will
be
a
terrific
again
again
September
30th,
it's
going
to
start
at
4
P.M
with
the
screening
starting
then
at
seven,
so
I
do
hope
to
see
all
of
you
there
and
on
a
personal
note
to
my
left
is
a
fellow
leadership:
Burbank
classmate
Chief
Alvarez.
Congratulations,
we're
all
very
proud
of
you!.
L
Good
afternoon
Mr,
Anthony
and
members
of
the
city
council
Mr
Anthony
a
few
moments
ago,
you
were
praising
your
Burbank
Police,
the
Burbank
police.
Little.
Does
anybody
in
this
room
know
that,
just
an
hour
ago,
you
taped
something
for
online,
indicating
that
your
goal
is
a
world
without
police?
So
the
problem
with
Mr
Anthony
is:
is
not
this
city
council?
The
problem
that
online
opinion
makers,
the
problem
is
with
you
not
any
of
the
other
four.
L
L
L
As
a
mayor,
decorum
and
propriety
are
some
of
those
examples
befitting
of
Mayors
in
America.
You,
sir,
have
set
another
bad
example
in
a
long
line
of
examples.
Your
comment
about
9
11,
indicating
or
inferring
that
we
deserved
it.
How
you
took
joy
in
aggravating
your
neighbors
up
in
Northern
California,
where
you
come
from.
L
We've
seen
people
like
you,
you
think
you
exist
to
educate
us
plebeians
you're,
not
the
spank.
Seen
around
the
world
occurred
with
you,
bending
over
at
a
Democratic
fundraiser
swatted
by
a
man
in
nothing
but
lipstick
and
high
heels
and
a
wig.
No
sir,
your
response
was,
are
you
jealous?
No
sir,
we
are
not
jealous
and
you
somehow
claim
you're
a
Democrat.
L
L
The
leader
of
the
Bolshevik
Revolution,
you
cannot
be
a
Democrat
and
a
Bolshevik
at
the
same
time.
So
yes,
sir,
the
sincerity
problem
is
because
of
you
and
your
behavior.
This
was
unbefitting
of
a
mayor,
and
you
embarrassed
your
colleagues
and
everybody
in
this
city
and
in
Southern
California,
and
you
do
it
only
to
promote
your
campaign
for
supervisor
so
that
you
can
finally
have
a
Salary.
Thank
you.
V
Good
evening,
Mr
Mayor
vice
mayor
members
of
the
council,
rental
property
as
an
investment,
rental
properties
and
investment.
When
one
purchases,
a
property
monies
are
transformed
into
real
property,
most
Property
Owners
view
their
property,
even
their
personal
residence,
as
an
investment
not
a
place
to
live
for
six
months
a
year,
10
years
or
Etc,
as
is
the
case
when
renting
as
Ms
Mullins
noted
at
the
January
31st
meeting
rental
properties
are
thought
of
as
an
alternative
and
complement
to
401ks
Iris
rollover,
Iris
retirement
income,
long-term
health
insurance
and
more
providing
rental
housing
is
a
business.
V
When
one's
portfolio
grows
large
enough,
it
should
be
managed
as
a
business.
Let's
do
a
little
analysis
on
a
rental
property
as
an
investment.
The
average
value
of
an
apartment
in
September
2022
was
450
thousand
dollars.
One
percent
of
that
is
four
thousand
five
hundred.
You
can
easily
get
four
percent
in
the
bank,
but
you
need
five
percent,
because
your
property
tax
is
one
percent,
not
counting
repairs,
maintenance,
Capital,
Improvements,
Hazard,
Insurance
utilities,
voter
and
deadness
and
Etc
the
rental
income
needed
to
be
needs
to
be
twenty
two
thousand
five
hundred
to
be
equivalent.
V
That
does
not
consider
housing
providers,
time
and
effort
on
July
14
2023,
the
median
rent
for
a
one
bedroom,
one
bath
apartment
in
Burbank
perrentalmeter.com,
which
scrapes
together
a
lot
of
the
sites,
was
21.50
a
theoretical
net
income
of
Seventeen
dollars.
It
hardly
seems
that
Poss,
it
hardly
seems
that
housing
providers
are
receiving
excessive
profits.
Gouging
tenants,
especially
when
you
consider
that
existing
rents
are
you
undoubtedly
below
the
value
obtained
from
rentalmeter.com
I'm.
Certainly,
apartment
values
have
increased
in
the
last
year.
V
My
miscellaneous
values
are
based
on
the
fact
that
I
handle
many
of
these
simple
repairs
myself.
Hence
for
many,
if
not
all
most
owners,
they
are
more,
especially
if
the
property
is
managed
by
the
property
management
company
which
charges
five
to
ten
percent
gross
rents
as
a
fee.
An
analysis
of
sfr
you'll
assume
the
results.
Don't
penalize.
V
People
have
been
good
stewards
of
their
financial
portfolio
if
you
want
to
help
renters,
don't
penalize
housing
providers
with
across-the-board
actions
which
benefit
both
affluent
and
struggling
tenants,
while
burdening
housing
providers
help
renters
with
Aid,
which
is
based
on
need.
Any
program
should
be
funded
by
the
entire
Community,
not
a
specific
group.
More
on
that
next
meeting.
Thank
you.
Thank.
W
Good
evening
Mr
Mayor
Mr
vice
mayor
city
council,
everybody
who's
watching
my
name
is
Mark
scroggs
I'm,
a
Burbank
resident
I'm.
Also
a
talent
agent,
representing
actors
and
actresses
I'm,
one
of
tons
of
people
in
the
area
who've
been
affected
by
the
SAG
Astra,
the
writer
skills
strikes,
and
it's
not
our
fault,
we're
not
members
of
those
guilds.
We
just
want
to
get
our
people
to
work.
I
can
tell
you
that
if
you
drive
around
right
now,
you
talk
to
people
like
this
morning.
I
was
my
gym.
I
was
my
dentist.
W
My
apartment
complex,
a
lot
of
people
are
hurting.
I've,
heard
all
sorts
of
horror
stories
just
today
and
well.
The
problem
is
they
don't
want
to
negotiate?
They
don't
want
to
talk.
So
a
group
of
us
have
started
represented
as
started
like
coordinating.
You
know,
conversations
with
State
reps
with
businesses,
with
people
at
Studios
that
we
know
to
see
what
we
can
do.
If
you
know
people
who
are
members
of
sag,
Astra
wga
or
the
producers
ampt
whatever
reach
out
to
them,
tell
them
they.
W
W
If
you
know
also
it's
not
about
boycotting
and
cutting
the
cable
and
all
that,
because
people
are
doing
that
anyway,
because
you
can
only
watch
so
many
shows
from
2007
and
that's
all
they
seem
to
be
providing
right
now,
but
we're
reaching
out
to
people
reaching
out
to
more
people
going
to
create
a
change.org
petition
to
reach
out,
because
the
state
representatives
have
been
fine
but
Gavin
Newsom
seems
to
be
more
interested
in
Ron
DeSantis
than
the
people
of
Los,
Angeles,
County
and
I.
Think
that's
time
to
change.
W
D
You
Mr
Scruggs
David
Holtzman,
followed
by
Joel
schlossman.
X
Hello,
council
members,
I,
was
not
going
to
say
anything
tonight
because
looks
like
you've
taken
the
election
method
stuff
off
the
agenda,
but
now
I
have
an
opportunity
to
share
some
support
for
the
mayor
and
mention
one
of
my
favorite
things
in
the
world
to
do,
and
that
is
drag
queen
celebrity
bingo
I
have
been
in
the
past.
I
was
quite
the
regular
at
legendary
Bingo,
run
by
a
guy
named
Jeffrey
Bowman,
who
goes
by
bingo
boy,
and
it
raises
money
for
a
tremendous
number
of
great
non-profits
at.
X
It
was
mostly
at
dupar's
in
West
Hollywood,
Hamburger
Mary's,
and
there
was
a
drag
queen
there
named
Bel
Air,
who
was
just
great
and
I
may
indeed
have
been
spanked
by
her
because
they
have
a
bingo
paddle.
They
have
a
paddle
that
they
use
to
spank
you
if
you
accidentally
call
a
false
Bingo,
it's
terrible,
but
it
was
it's
great
fun
and
I
highly
recommend
it
to
everybody.
If
you
have
a
non-profit
in
Burbank,
and
you
want
to
raise
money,
it's
a
great
way
to
do
it.
X
Y
His
Personal
Agenda
down
our
throats
for
several
years
and
the
voters
are
going
to
see
that
this
stops,
because
there
are
good
people
in
Burbank
that
have
morals
that
work
hard
for
what
they've
got,
and
you
should
recognize
that
and
you
should
realize
the
will
of
the
people.
There's
an
item
on
the
agenda
tonight
that
has
to
do
with
rent
control
and
tenants
rights,
but
what
about
property
owners
rights?
We've
had
this
vote,
it's
been
decided.
We
don't
want
it,
but
these
folks
here
want
to
take.
What's
not
what's
not
theirs.
Y
And-
and
you
all
want
to
justify
it-
and
we
have
somebody
sitting
at
the
head
of
the
diocese-
is
that
is
the
lowest
of
the
low
I
read
that
he
got
married
to
Margot
router,
whom
he
met
on
OkCupid,
that
he
trolls
for
sex
partners
with
Margot
router.
Ask
him
if
it's
true,
he
won't
deny
it.
He
said
he's
into
polyamory.
That's
his
business
happens
in
his
own
time,
but
there's
many
people
that
disagree
with
it.
Y
It's
an
insult
to
marriage
and
he
insults
marriage
and
you
know
what
I
could
go
on
and
on
I've
showed
you
proof
he
has
his
kids
sleeping
in
a
closet.
His
punishment
I
gave
you
his
own
words
where
he
says:
911
is
our
fault
I.
If
I
said
to
him,
if
it's
not
Al
Qaeda,
whose
fault
is
it
and
he
said
it
was
our
fault,
you
heard
him
and
then
you
elevated
him
to
the
position
of
Mayor.
Shame
on
you
and
there's
more
embarrassment
coming
because
he
thinks
he's
in
the
right,
so
I.
Y
D
Z
Z
I
want
to
address
the
disgraceful
behavior
of
Mr
Anthony,
which
has
resulted
in
national
press
coverage
of
ridicule
for
our
beloved
Burbank
Fox
News
has
been
promoting
the
story
for
their
Prime
Time
coverage,
and
that
includes
Sean
Hannity
with
the
video
we
have
local
stations,
KABC
and
KNBC,
covering
the
council
hearing
tonight
and
at
the
expense
of
our
city.
I
assume
that
Mr
Anthony
is
enjoying
all
of
this
attention
and
this
situation
so
now
I
want
to
address.
Please
the
remaining
four
members
of
council
to
you.
Z
I
say
the
residents
of
Burbank
want
to
hear
from
each
of
you
individually.
As
to
your
comment
on
this
situation,
a
flood
of
comments
are
being
made
demanding
that
Mr
Anthony
resigned
from
the
council
or
if
he
does
not
do
a
recall,
the
work
on
the
recall
is
already
underway.
The
residents
of
Burbank
want
to
hear
from
each
of
you
individually
as
to
your
comment
on
either
action
against
Mr
Anthony.
The
issue
is
clearly
how
in
the
world
can
this
man
remain
on
Council?
Z
AA
I'm
a
housing
provider
here
in
the
City
of
Burbank
and
I
just
wanted
to
call
in
and
say
that
I
also
have
a
part,
an
apartment
in
the
city
of
Los
Angeles
I've
dealt
with
rent
control
for
many
years
and
as
a
housing
provider,
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
You
know
it
provides
a
Level
Playing
Field
for
tenants
and
landlords
to
interact
with
each
other.
My
biggest
problem
with
the
city
of
La
program
is
that
the
enforcement
is
body
and
the
information
provided
to
both
sides
is
unpredictable.
AA
I
think
if
the
City
of
Burbank
proceeds
with
a
rent
control
program
that
it's
going
to
be
really
critical,
that
there
be
appropriate
information
sent
out
to
both
tenants
and
landlords.
So
we
know
what
are
we
both
our
rights
and
our
responsibilities
are
to
the
other
party
I
think
providing
housing
is
an
honorable
profession,
but
also
so
one
that
carries
with
it.
AA
A
real
responsibility
to
your
tenants
and
I
think
that
when
you're
dealing
with
landlords,
who
have
a
strong
personal
relationship
with
their
tenants,
you're
not
going
to
see
the
kind
of
displacement
that
investor
owners
are
likely
to
bring
to
the
city
I'm.
Just
commenting
specifically
about
the
two
agenda
items
I'm.
Frankly
in
support
of
strengthening
the
Demolition
and
substantial
remodel
standards
as
a
as
a
small
time.
Landlord
I
would
never
evict
a
tenant
for
purposes
of
renovation
and
raising
rent.
Q
AA
I
think
you're
only
going
to
see
investors
who
are
coming
in
to
make
as
much
money
as
possible
wanting
to
do
that
unless
there's
some
kind
of
substantial
systemic
problem
in
the
unit.
I
also
think
that
enhanced
relocation
is
is
important
as
a
housing
provider.
If
I'm
asking
my
tenant
to
find
a
new
home
I
think
that
they're
entitled
to
receive
support
for
the
move
that
they're
being
forced
to
undertake
I'm
confused
by
fast
recommendation
to
dismantle
the
home
again
program.
AA
It
seems
like
it's
supported
by
by
Council
and
being
used
by
tenants
who
are
being
forced
to
relocate
and
I,
really
don't
understand
why
staff
wants
to
take
apart,
something
that
seems
to
be
providing
support
for
people
who
need
it.
AA
I
could
go
on
more
about
rent
control,
but
I'm
sure
you've
got
plenty
of
other
people
to
listen
to
this
evening
and
thanks
so
much
for
your
time
and
attention
to
this
matter.
I
think
it's
really
fundamental
that
we
figure
out
how
to
balance
the
relationships
between
housing
providers
and
the
tenants
that
are
their
customers.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you
Anthony
and
I'm.
Sorry,
I
can
no
longer
refer
to
you
as
mayor
Anthony.
Vice
mayor
Constantine,
council
members,
Takahashi
Perez
and
Mullins
and
city
manager,
Justin
Hess,.
Z
J
City
attorney
Joe
McDougall
I
sent
an
email
out
today
and
I
hope
to
guide
you
all
got
it
I'm
sure
you
did
but
I
before
I
read
it
so
the
general
public
can
understand
it
or
see
what
I
sent
I
have
to
say
that
that
tear-jerking
comment
you
made
before
oral
Communications
was
really
something
okay.
J
J
So
with
that
being
said,
my
email
was
I
had
originally
planned
on
attending
for
agenda
item
14.,
but
I
see
Santa
C
manager,
city
manager,
Mr
Hess,
has
pulled
the
item
and
it
will
be
rescheduled
now
with
the
recent
disturbing
video
going
around
by
our
murder.
Burbank
Burbank
has
once
again
come
to
the
attentions
of
its
viewers.
Back
in
the
late
60s
and
early
70s,
Rowan
and
Martin's
laughing
became
a
nationwide
hit
and
in
a
good
way
put
us
on
the
map.
J
Sadly,
today
we
begin
to
find
ourselves
back
in
the
spotlight,
because
an
American,
embarrassing
video
that
has
hit
the
Airways
I'm
sure
by
now
everyone
has
witnessed
the
video
going
around
badly
to
say
of
the
mayor
being
spanked
by
a
transgender
male
female
Democrat
at
a
fundraiser
for
our
candidate
claims
of
children
being
present
has
serviced.
Although
Anthony
has
said,
none
of
them
were
picked
or
attendees,
but
does
show
a
pic
of
a
group
of
pictures
well
with
a
16
year
old
there.
J
So
with
that
being
said,
I
would
hope
you
folks
would
agenda,
is
something
for
next
week
in
regards
to
the
action
of
the
mayor
and
I.
Don't
want
to
hear
that
oh
he's
only
got
a
few
months
to
go.
Let
him
finish
his
term
or
anything
like
that.
He
still
has
another
year
on
Council,
so
I
think
we
ought
to
go
forward
with
this,
and
I
will
look
forward
to
hearing
your
comments.
Thank
you.
AB
Hello
I
want
to
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
for
listening
to
me,
I'm
sure,
I'm,
a
champion
or
woman
and
I
see
a
lot
of
people
talking
about
trans
people,
especially
with
not
very
many
trans
people
present,
so
I
figured
I'd,
throw
my
hat
in
a
ring
I'm.
Also,
a
vocal
like
I
grew
up
in
Burbank.
I've
lived
there
for
a
mature
to
get
my
life
so
I
know
the
area
very
well.
AB
I
wanted
to
talk
more
specifically
about
rent
control.
However,
because
one
of
one
of
you
people
who
were
talking,
somebody
slammed
his
hand
against
like
the
the
podium,
that's
childish,
behavior,
that's
like
juvenile.
This,
like
temper,
tantrum
nonsense
and
not
to
mention
like
bird
cow
in
particular,
is
part
of
the
reason
why
there's
such
a
huge
Monopoly
in
in
property
ownership
and
such
a
huge
rise
of
of
particularly
rent
rent
is
so
out
of
control.
I
can't
live
in
Burbank
anymore.
It
I
I've
worked
hard
all
my
adult
life,
and
even
beforehand.
AB
If
anything,
this
is
like
the
first
step
to
making
Burbank
more
accessible
I.
Was
there
actually,
not
even
that
long
ago,
literally,
at
the
end
of
August
I
got
to
visit
for
the
first
time
in
three
years
it
it's
so
expensive
to
live
there.
I
can't
believe
this
man
would
throw
a
temper
tantrum
like
that
on
on
television,
even
I'm,
watching
you
guys
from
like
the
other
side
of
the
of
our
country
and
I
and
I,
can't
believe
this
man
is
that
horrible.
That,
like
you,
know,
vampires
anyway.
My
point
here
is
like
rent
control.
AB
Is
a
God
then
also
just
real,
quick
like
if
you
hate,
trans
people
and
you're
worried
that
trans
people
are
gonna,
groom,
everybody
go
to
think
Ben
bar
okay
I
went
out
the
left
by
the
priest.
There
you
want
to
get
a
groomer.
Take
some
action.
You
cowards,
you're
horrible,
like
like
honestly
y'all,
a
bunch
of
posers.
AB
You
really
want
to
get
like
catch.
Some
groomer
I
can't
believe
you
I
I,
want
revenge
and
I
never
got
that
chance.
I
cannot
believe
that
there's
these
people
who
are
doing
this
in
my
my
hometown,
disgraceful
I,
have
no
reason
to
defend
the
mayor.
I
am
not
a
Democrat
I'm,
not
a
republican.
All
I
want
is
for
the
people
in
my
town.
Q
AC
He
started
by
saying
I
want
to
cut
off
comments.
Well,
I'm,
sorry,
when
you
embarrass
the
entire
population
of
Burbank,
you
don't
get
to
cut
off
comments.
You
get
to
listen
to
them.
Secondly,
it's
what
you
didn't
say
as
well:
there
was
no
self-reflection,
no
consideration
for
the
how
it
may
have
impacted
the
people
that
you're
supposed
to
lead,
as
well
as
the
people
that
you're
supposed
to
serve
I'm,
very
interested
to
see
how
the
city
will
discuss
this
and
and
how
they
intend
to
deal
with
it.
Thank
you.
A
Hi,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
and
city
council
I'm
I'm,
just
saddened
that
you
are
all
having
to
listen
to
the
level
of
betrayal
that
you've
had
to
your
patients
and
Stone
Face,
for
it
is
remarkable
and
Mr
Mayor
that
you
you
stood
up
and
and
owns
what
happened
and
pleading
to
let
the
rest
of
city
council
be
I,
think
it's
really
Brave
and
is
it
says
a
lot.
A
I
am
saddened
by
the
the
the
the
immature
lack
of
Tolerance
and
behavior
of
my
fellow
residents
at
Burbank
and
I
I
wish
that
we
could
get
to
the
business
at
hand
and
not
have
to
waste
this
much
time
over
a
personal
attacks,
I
I,
sympathize
and
empathize,
with
all
five
of
you
having
to
sit
there
and
listen
to
this
and
I.
Thank
you
all
for
your
service.
H
D
R
Yes,
we
did
amend
the
agenda.
Our
outside
Council
was
not
able
to
make
it
tonight
for
the
districting
item,
but
we
are
looking
to
reschedule
as
soon
as
we
can.
Okay.
Thank
you.
D
Do
we
want
to
wait
yeah
we're
gonna,
just
take
a
quick
second
here:
wait
for
council
member
Perez
to
come
back.
D
M
You
Mr
Mayor
all
right
all
right
so
first,
thank
you
all
for
speaking
tonight.
As
always,
I
appreciate
the
folks
taking
the
time
to
come
to
the
meeting
and
speak
your
mind
about
what's
important
to
you
as
well
as
calling
in
I
also
appreciate
want
to
recognize
the
emails
and
the
phone
calls
that
we
we
receive
as
well.
That's
very
helpful
for
us
to
have
this
information
that
how
you
feel
about
things
going
into
the
meeting
I
just
wanted
to
mention
fire
chief
Alvarez.
M
Thank
welcome
to
the
team
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
you.
It's
exciting
and
I'm
excited
if
Eric
Connor's
still
here.
No,
but
the
September
30th
fall.
Festival
I
just
want
to
double
check
that
that's
that's
being
announced
and
that
the
community
can
yes,
okay,
great,
awesome,
okay,
so
on
the
item
or
the
non
the
atom.
That's
on
the
elephant
in
the
room.
I
do
want
to
make
some
comments.
Mr,
Mayor
and.
Q
M
Think
I've
been
struggling
with
this
about
how
to
how
to
address
it,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
address
it
publicly
sure.
So,
as
a
council
member,
in
a
long
time,
Community
member
I've
lived
in
Burbank
for
25
years
and
been
a
very
active
member
for
about
15
of
those
years.
M
I
am
aware
of
the
long-standing
pattern
of
provocativeness
and
performance
that
our
current
mayor
exhibits
as
part
of
his
activism
and
social
media
presence,
while
it's
not
a
leadership
style
that
I
find
to
be
very
productive.
Personally
I
believe
it
is
not
my
place
to
judge
another
person's
communication
practices
or
ways
of
interacting
with
the
world,
so
no
judgment
for
me.
I
do
not
judge
our
mayor's
actions
or
choices
in
his
private
life
campaigning
or
Community
activism.
M
However,
I
do
have
strong
feelings
about
how
our
work
in
the
City
of
Burbank
is
conducted
from
a
perspective
of
what
we
are
doing
here
on
this
dice
to
me,
a
line
has
been
crossed,
while
it
may
be
entertaining
to
argue
or
witness
banter
on
social
media,
the
quips
and
renaming
of
accounts.
It
stops
being
fun
and
stops
being
entertaining
when
that
banter
affects
our
city
when
it
affects
our
city
staff,
the
other
four
council
members
in
this
room
and
our
community's
attention.
M
We
have
incredibly
important
issues
in
our
city
right
now.
Tonight
we
are
going
to
make
a
decision
that
may
affect
dozens
or
lots
more
of
our
Burbank
residents
on
whether
they
have
a
roof
over
their
heads.
We
are
going
to
make
decisions
about
our
City's
investment
policies.
We
spent
most
of
the
afternoon
celebrating
the
many
Volunteers
in
our
community
for
their
hard
work
and
dedication
to
the
city
which,
by
the
way
for
the
most
part,
our
mayor
was
not
there.
M
That
is
what
our
staff
and
our
colleagues
here
on
the
diocese
were
set
to
work
on
this
weekend
and
today,
but
instead
for
the
past
three
days,
we
had
to
field
over
50
phone
calls
coming
in
at
least
a
hundred
emails.
I've
lost
count
of
how
many
emails
I
have
received
personal
messages
on
my
phone
number
on
my
social
media
and
I'm
sure
other
council
members
will
share
what
their
experiences
were.
Asking
me.
What
I
personally
will
do
about
this?
M
The
city
staff
has
wasted
at
least
30
hours
or
more
of
our
taxpayer
money
on
this
issue,
I
personally,
while
working
another
job
going
to
graduate
school
and
also
getting
over
being
sick
last
week.
In
addition
to
doing
my
normal,
thorough
preparation
for
these
Council
meetings
have
used
up
over
10
hours
of
my
time
on
these
on
these
issues.
M
I
have
a
mantra
that
says
not
my
circus,
not
my
monkeys.
It's
a
way
to
remind
myself
what
is
mine
and
what
is
others
and
normally
that's
what
I
would
say
to
videos
like
this?
Not
my
circus,
not
my
monkeys,
I
would
shake
my
head,
but
this
time
unfortunately,
Mr
Mayor,
you
brought
the
circus
to
City
Hall,
and
this
is
where
I
feel
like
the
line
has
been
crossed.
So
I
want
to
I
want
to
really
make
clear
that
I
have
absolutely
no
problem
with
participating
in
the
fundraiser
I.
M
M
Not
only
did
you
bring
hours
of
unneeded
work
to
our
staff
and
parts
and
directed
our
communities
attention
onto
this
topic,
you
used
your
Burbank
mayor
email
to
respond
to
emails
about
this
issue
and
provocative
escalatory
responses,
without
any
consideration
of
how
your
responses
might
affect
the
people
around
you.
In
addition,
you
see
seed
all
four
of
us
on
on
two
of
them
and
to
send
a
quip
to
a
community
member.
M
M
M
M
I,
don't
know
what
to
do
next,
but
I
hope
that
you
learn
from
this
and
that
for
the
next
few
months
that
you
serve
and
our
as
our
City's
leader,
that
you
can
Reign
it
in
Mr,
Mayor
and
the
end
of
the
year
focus
on
what
you
were
voted
in
to
do
to
be
the
steward
and
leader
of
our
city.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
say
all
that
I
appreciate
it.
Yeah.
F
F
I
too
is
a
council
member
who
was
elected
to
represent
the
residents
of
Burbank
and
to
conduct
City
business
had
spent
many
hours
on
the
phone
this
weekend
when
this
incident
happened,
trying
to
address
and
deal
with
phone
calls
text
messages
emails,
including
some
of
my
own
family
members,
who
put
this
in
my
face,
saying
what
kind
of
city
do
you
serve?
F
This
is
not
what
I
ran
here
in
the
City
of
Burbank
and
spend
the
last
12
years
working
for
the
city,
the
last
40
years,
42
years
of
my
life
being
here,
living
in
the
City
of
Burbank
had
to
endure
the
embarrassment
that
I
did
endure.
I
have
absolutely
like
council
member
takaha.
She
said
absolutely
no
problem.
What
you
do
with
your
personal
life
I
have
no
problem
with
anyone.
F
What
they
do
in
their
personal
life,
just
like
I,
don't
want
anybody
to
get
in
my
own
personal
life,
but
we
have
a
job
to
do
here
and
I'm
very
emotional
right
now
about
it,
because
this
is
the
city
that
I
moved
here
in
1982
and
raised
my
family,
the
city,
that
I
love
and
respect,
and
will
continue
to
do
that
and
now
I'm
serving
in
a
capacity
as
Council.
It
really
pained
me
to
see
that
our
name
was
televised
everywhere,
including
Australia
I
had
text
messages
sent
from
people
out
of
the
country.
Asking
me.
F
If
this
is
the
city
I
serve,
we
have
7.5
million
hits
on
our
social
media.
Maybe
this
is
exactly
what
they
intend
to
do.
We
were
featured
on
Fox
News,
a
couple
of
times.
I
was
sent
all
these
emails.
I
was
sent
all
these
text
messages
and
instead
of
focusing
on
City
business
instead
of
focusing
on
what
we
need
to
do
tonight
for
our
renters
for
our
landlords,
we
had
to
answer
phone
calls
that
was
unnecessary
and
we
had
to
you
know:
I
turned
to
our
City
attorney
our
city
manager.
F
You
know
I
I,
don't
know
who
to
turn
to,
because
everyone
is
looking
at
us
to
do
something
about
it.
I
hate
to
be
doing
this
tonight,
I
hate
to
be
sitting
on
the
dice.
Talking
about
my
colleague.
This
is
not
what
we
do
here
in
Burbank
on
city
council.
It
really
pains
me
that
I
have
to
sit
here.
I'm
sure
it
pains
council
member
Takahashi,
but
we
really
need
to
look
at
how
we
conduct
our
business
here
on
Council.
All
of
us
we're
supposed
to
be
professional.
F
We
were
giving
the
oath
of
office
to
represent
the
city
in
specific
matter
and
policy
issues
not
to
be
on
social
media
and
I.
Think
I
am
too
very
disappointed.
The
answers
that
I
saw
on
the
responses
from
the
emails
also
the
responses
that
were
on
social
media,
asking
people
if
they
were
jealous
asking
people.
Why
are
you
sharing
those
emails?
F
People
have
to
express
how
they
feel
about
what
happened
and
our
job
is
to
listen
and
our
job
is
to
represent
them,
and
also
tonight
I
was
hoping
that
you
started
off
the
meeting
and
I
was
very
appreciative
that
you
started
off
saying.
Well,
let
me
say
a
statement
and
I
was
really
hoping
that
I
would
hear
an
apology,
but
instead
I
heard
leave
our
my
colleagues
alone
and
focus
on
me
and
send
me
emails.
Well
that
was
not
what
I
was
hoping
that
I
would
hear.
Tonight.
F
I
was
hoping
to
hear
an
apology
that
will
put
the
City
of
Burbank
that
we
put
the
whole
entire
team,
the
staff
in
our
community
through
this
really
difficult
time.
It's
not
fun
watching
our
mayor,
bent
over
and
in
in
that
situation
being
televised
on
Fox
News.
It
was
not
fun
watching
this
and
seeing
this
is
the
City
of
Burbank.
It
was
very
painful
for
me
to
watch,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
what
was
said.
F
Also,
regretfully,
that
I'm
going
to
ask
Council
to
I
know
we
can't
really
get
into
it
tonight,
even
though
we
have
more
than
enough,
but
I
want
to
ask
Council
to
place
this
on
the
agenda
for
future
discussion,
because
we
need
to
know
how
are
we
going
to
conduct
ourselves
moving
forward?
This
must
be
discussed
on
the
dice.
This
must
be
understood
about
people
are
expecting
us,
like
council
member
takahaji,
to
say
to
take
action
to
have
you
step
down
as
a
mayor.
I,
don't
think
we're
ready
to
discuss
this
tonight.
F
I
think
it's
it's
something
that
we
want
to
bring
and
talk
about.
What
behavior
is
expected
moving
forward
from
all
of
us
that
we
we
want
to
understand
what
the
mayor's
Behavior,
because,
obviously
there's
been
a
pattern.
Mr,
Mayor
and
I
cannot
take
one
more
phone
call
one
more
email
where
it
takes
me
away
from
City
business
to
deal
with
what
the
mayor
is
doing
in
the
city.
I
appreciate
you
working
as
a
mayor
for
the
people
of
Burbank
that
voted
you
in
to
focus
on
City
business.
F
F
I
To
do
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
so
I'll
get
to
the
last
item.
Last
but
I
want
to
thank
everybody
who
came
in
person
tonight.
Those
who
phoned
in
lots
of
of
good
comment
I'm
really
excited
about
the
Fall
Festival
by
the
way
so
Mr
Mayor
I'm,
going
to
say
this
with
all
due
respect.
I'm
I'm,
tired
of
talking
about
your
personal
life
and
I,
don't
mean
this
joke.
I
I'm,
really
sick
of
it,
because
there's
a
story
to
tell
about
Burbank,
it's
and
I'm
not
going
to
direct
these
comments
at
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
want
to
talk
to
those
in
the
room
and
those
watching
at
home.
We
have
a
really
wonderful,
Community,
vibrant
small
business,
Corridor,
wonderful
people
that
make
Burbank
what
it
is,
and
there
are
problems
facing
this
community,
whether
it's
the
high
cost
of
housing,
job
insecurity.
I
We
have
so
many
folks
out
of
work
these
days
and
I
really
want
to
focus
on
the
work
that
we
have
at
hand,
because
that
is
the
important
thing
tonight.
So
I
say
this
to
suggest
that
all
of
you
who
have
come
and
shared
your
comments,
I'm
hearing
them
and
I'm
listening
them
and
I'm
not
going
to
complain
about
it,
because
that
that's
my
job
is
to
listen
to
you.
I
Mr
Mayor,
you
have
some
I
guess
you
know
some
decision
making
to
do
in
terms
of
how
you're
going
to
respond
to
these
people
and
how
you're
going
to
take
into
consideration
their
comments.
But
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
it's
not
on
the
agenda
tonight
and
I
want
to
focus
on
what
is
on
the
agenda
tonight.
I
There
is
a
petition
to
recall
process,
and
that
is
your
recourse
against
any
elected
official,
including
myself,
but
I
think
that
the
best
use
of
our
time
on
this
council
is
to
talk
about
the
real
issues
that
are
impacting
working.
People
in
this
city
and
I
think
that
any
other
expenditure
of
time
is
frankly
disrespectful
to
those
who
desperately
need
us
to
act.
Thank
you.
AD
Okay,
on
the
light
note,
congratulations
to
our
boards
and
commissions
members.
They
really
do
the
work
and
I'm
very
proud
of
each
and
every
one
of
them
happy
Hispanic,
Heritage,
Month,
I
wish
that's
what
I
was
talking
about,
mostly
and
and
we'll
get
to
the
the
housing
Commons.
When
we
get
to
that
agenda.
Item
and
I
appreciate
those
of
you
who
have
Faithfully
come
every
meeting
to
to
discuss
them
I.
AD
AD
What
each
of
us
do
as
private
citizens
is
up
to
us,
but
with
the
understanding
that
we
were
wearing
the
Hat
the
minute
we
get
elected.
There
are
a
lot
of
parts
of
our
lives
that
are
no
longer
ours
and
I.
AD
Think
all
of
us
feel
that
to
an
extent
and
have
to
make
that
decision
and
and
I
do
want
to
remind
folks
that
that
decision
is
individual,
but
I,
hear
you
and
I
understand
your
passion
on
this
issue
and
I
welcome
the
invitation
that
the
mayor
has
made
to
take
it
up
with
him
and
discuss
with
him
I
I,
gotta,
say
I
feel
a
little
uneasy
talking
about
something
political,
something
at
a
campaign
event
on
the
dice.
You
all
know
me
I'm
very
by
the
book.
AD
I
think
that
belongs
outside
of
here,
because
that
was
a
campaign
thing
and
I.
Don't
like
talking
about
that
here.
What
I
will
say
is
you
know
I
we're
here
to
tackle
heavy
agenda
I.
Think
all
of
you
mentioned
at
some
point
some
of
the
issues
that
that
we
have
on
hand.
That's
what
I
want
to
focus
on
too,
and
the
only
last
thing
I
will
say
and
I
will
Direct
One
Piece
to
you,
Mr
Mayor,
one
piece
to
the
public
to
you
well
to
the
public.
AD
My
only
ask
the
only
other
thing
I
will
say
is.
As
the
vice
mayor
mentioned.
There
are
several
forms
that
the
public
can
take
I,
invite
you
all
to
take
any
Avenue.
You
would
like
and
I
hope
that
this
is
the
last
time
we
talk
about
this,
and
we
have
to
be
at
this.
This
juncture-
and
the
only
other
thing
I
will
say,
is
that
we
have
a
busy
agenda.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
to
do
and
I'd
like
to
get
to
work.
D
I'll
say
one
last
quick
thing:
I
did
miss
the
boards
and
commission's
dinner
I
was
dealing
with
an
issue
in
Glendale.
It
was
not
an
interview
with
Fox
that
was
done.
Yesterday,
I
was
personally
invited
to
help
with
a
specific
issue
happening
in
our
neighboring
city.
D
There
was
a
comment
I
made
online
to
a
friend
of
mine
who
posted
the
video
I
asked
him
if
he
was
jealous.
I
didn't
think
that
that
was
inappropriate
at
the
time,
because
I
knew
him
and
we
were
having
a
discussion
back
and
forth.
D
I
do
have
to
remember
that
all
of
that
is
public,
and
so
that
is
my
fault.
I
do
apologize
for
that.
There
was
the
two
emails
earlier
I
think
at
that
point.
I
had
become
very
frustrated
with
what
had
happened
and
I
will
say.
There
was
a
loss
of
decorum
in
my
response:
I'm
not
perfect,
I.
D
D
D
What
I
personally
see
as
my
role
and
my
duty
and
my
job
is
not
the
same
as
what
everybody
else
sees
and
I
think
that
is
still
hard
for
any
elected
official
to
do,
but
I'm
having
a
difficult
time
with
it.
I
come
from
a
very
silly
performance
background
to
me.
What
is
Goofy
and
normal
to
other
folks
seems
inappropriate
and
that's
not
their
fault.
D
That's
mine
I
need
to
learn
that
line
and
I
need
to
learn
when
it
is
being
crossed
and
when
to
step
back
so
moving
forward,
I
am
going
to
be
paying
attention
to
this.
I
am
realizing
now
that
we
are
under
heavy
scrutiny.
There
are
news
cameras
in
the
back
of
the
room
right
now,
so
I
appreciate
the
comments.
I
appreciate
the
feedback
I
understand
that
there
is
work
to
do
so,
let's
get
to
it
and
we'll
deal
with
this
later
after
after
thank
you.
D
We
have
three
reports
to
council
this
evening.
After
staff's
presentation,
the
city
council
will
proceed
with
in-person
public
comment.
Only
oh
wait.
That's
consent,
we're
on
consent.
Aha,
all
right,
Miss
Meredith!
Please
read
the
consent
item.
E
2023Rd
the
special
meeting
of
August
23rd
2012,
oh
22nd,
and
then
August
23rd
2023
and
the
dark
minutes
of
August
29
2023
and
September
5th
2023.
two
approve
the
successor
agency
minutes
of
the
joint
meeting
of
May
23
2023
and
June
13
2023.
three
approve
the
Housing
Authority
minutes
of
the
joint
meetings
of
May
23
2023
June
6
and
June
13
2023
and
August
22nd
2023.
E
four
approve
the
parking
authority
minutes
of
the
joint
meeting
of
May
23
2023
June
13
2023
and
August
22nd
2023
5.
approve
the
public
financing
Authority
minutes
of
the
joint
meeting
of
May
23
2023
6
approve
the
youth
endowment
Services
fund
board,
minutes
of
the
joint
meeting
of
May
23
2023,
seven
adoption
of
resolution
approving
the
establishment
of
the
salary
and
conflict
of
interest
code,
designation
for
the
classification
of
Records
technician
and
Adoption
of
resolution
approving
the
city-wide
salary
schedule.
F
Mr
Mayor,
yes
on
item
number,
10
I
will
be
abstaining.
I'm
a
proud
rotarian
I
also
serve
on
the
foundation
committee.
So
I'm
gonna
have
to
abstain
from
voting
on
number
10.
K
N
Good
evening
mayor
vice
mayor
members
of
the
council,
Betsy
McClinton
with
the
Management
Services
Department,
hello,.
D
Okay,
so
number
nine,
basically
is
an
increase
to
our
salaries.
The
five
of
us
up
here.
N
D
N
D
N
No
Mr
Mayor
what
tonight's
action
would
be.
The
Burbank
Municipal
Code
incorporates,
by
reference
the
government
code
relating
to
city
council
member
salaries,
and
what
that
allows
us
to
do
is
every
calendar.
Year,
a
year
from
the
operative
date
of
the
last
increase.
The
city
council
can
increase
City,
Council
salaries
up
to
five
percent.
N
The
last
increase
for
the
city
council
was
in
September
of
2022,
and
so
we
are
recommending
staff
is
recommending
to
council
and
increase
for
city
council
compensation
of
five
percent
effective
upon
adoption
of
the
ordinance
that
we're
introducing
this
evening.
That
is
the
first
part
that
would
be
immediately
effective
tonight.
Yes,
all.
D
M
Mr
Mayor.
Thank
you.
If,
if
it's
okay,
I
would
love
to
get
a
little
bit
of
clarification
on
item
number
11,
the
library
and
what
exactly
this
Grant
will
be
funding
when
in
the
literary
Services.
If.
R
We
could
get
a
little
short
on
our
library
service
director
is
very
excited
about
this,
and
it
will
certainly
be
able
to
address
this.
AE
Good
evening,
mayor
Anthony,
members
of
council
Elizabeth
Goldman
Library
Services
director.
What
we
have
on
the
agenda
tonight
is
acceptance
of
a
grant
for
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
from
California
library,
literacy
Services,
which
is
a
part
of
the
California
State
Library.
We
have
received
funding
from
this
organization
for
over
30
years
for
our
adult
literacy,
Services
Program,
which
provides
assistance
to
any
adults
who
read
below
an
eighth
grade
level.
AE
What
we
are
gaining
now
is
a
second
piece
of
the
grant,
specifically
for
ESL
services,
so
we
are
in
a
community
that
has
a
large
immigrant
population
and
the
Burbank
adult
school
offers
the
formal
ESL
training.
But
we've
observed
over
the
years
a
great
need
for
more
casual
conversation,
practice
and
classes
like
that.
We
have
a
program
right
now
called
English.
Naturally,
that
is
a
volunteer-run,
very
informal
conversation
group.
AE
What
we
will
be
utilizing
the
grant
funds
for
is
first
off
to
enhance
our
staff
skill
set
in
ESL,
which
has
specific
curriculum,
specific
ways
of
training
for
adults
who
need
ESL
assistance
and
then
formalizing
some
of
those
programs
a
little
bit
more,
for
instance,
having
beginner
intermediate
and
advanced
levels
and
bringing
a
little
more
consistency
to
our
ability
to
offer
that
service.
Just
so
so
that
anyone
who
needs
it
can
find
multiple
different
venues
to
get
their
practice,
really
build
confidence
in
their
skills
and
be
able
to
be
successful.
M
D
D
We
have
three
reports
to
council.
After
each
presentation
there
will
be
a
in-person
public
comment.
Only
please
fill
out
a
yellow
comment
card
to
speak.
At
that
time.
You
will
have
three
minutes.
First
up
the
City
Treasurer's
Investment
Portfolio
report
for
June
30th
2023,
say
you
Treasurer
Crystal
Palmer.
Please
present
the
report.
AF
Good
evening,
mayor
Anthony
vice
mayor
Schultz,
council
member
Perez,
council
member
Takahashi
and
council
member
Mullins
and
my
fellow
Burbank
residents,
my
name
is
Crystal
Palmer
and
I'm
your
city
treasurer
tonight
I
will
be
going
over
to
Treasures
report
for
June
2023.,
as
mandated
by
our
investment
policy.
This
report
was
reviewed
and
discussed
by
both
the
treasurer's
oversight,
Review
Committee
and
the
fiscal
and
treasurer's
review
group
on
the
fiscal
and
treasurer's
review
group.
AF
We
have
mayor
Anthony,
council,
member
Mullins
city
manager,
Justin
Hess
assistant
city
manager,
Judy
Wilke,
Financial,
Services,
director,
Jennifer,
Becker
and
CFO
of
bwp
Joe
lillio
on
the
treasures
oversight,
Review
Committee.
We
have
Darren
guggenheimer
CEO
of
gain
Federal
Credit,
Union,
Norland,
cross
former
CEO
of
Cedar
Sinai
Federal
Credit,
Union,
Richard,
Martin,
CPA,
Scott,
Rife,
retired
senior,
vice
president
of
Boston
Private
Bank
and
Trust,
and
David
Escobar,
managing
partner
of
bertane
Escobar
wealth
management
just
wanted
to
mention
their
names
and
thank
them
so
much
for
their
time
and
advice.
AF
AF
This
shows
how
the
portfolio
is
broken
down
by
asset
class.
The
biggest
category
we
have
is
U.S
agencies
at
37
percent.
Our
money
market
fund
at
20
corporate
medium
term
notes
at
16
percent,
municipal
bonds
at
11
percent
CDs
at
seven
percent
treasuries
at
five
percent
and
supernationals
at
four
percent.
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
As
you
recall,
we
implemented
an
ESG
policy
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
I
wanted
to
highlight
one
investment
we
made
in
a
local
credit
union,
the
California
Credit
Union.
So
in
July
of
this
year,
we
invested
in
a
two-year
CD,
yielding
5.4
percent,
with
a
California
Credit
Union
based
in
Glendale.
What
we
liked
about
this
Credit
Union
is
it's
certified
as
a
community
development
financial
institution
they've
donated
over
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars,
just
in
2022
to
support
local
schools,
Educators
military
families
and
Community
programs
they're
also
pretty
active
with
small
businesses.
AF
They've
served
around
a
hundred
small
businesses,
just
in
Burbank
and
they've,
provided
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
SBA
PPP
loans
to
businesses
in
Burbank
during
covet.
One
other
thing:
they're
very
active
in
is
education.
AF
I
wanted
to
go
over
some
economic
conditions
happening
today,
so
looking
at
the
labor
market,
although
the
unemployment
rate
is
still
relatively
low
at
3.8
percent,
we're
now
seeing
a
better
balance
between
job
openings
and
people
looking
for
work,
the
biggest
factor
is
really
to
increase
in
the
labor
force
participation
rate,
which
we
didn't
see
in
just
the
past
two
years
because
of
flexible
work.
Arrangements
workers
who
have
traditionally
been
side
sidelined,
are
now
able
to
take
advantage
of
opportunities
to
work.
AF
So
women
and
people
with
disabilities,
for
example,
are
now
working
at
a
much
higher
rate
than
even
before
the
pandemic.
Older
Americans
have
also
gone
back
to
work
across
all
ages.
People
are
now
working
at
a
much
higher
rate
than
before
us.
They
are
driven
by
flexible
job
opportunities
and
Rising
wages.
AF
However,
looking
at
this
graph,
despite
the
fact
that
average
savings
rate
is
still
below
historical
averages,
at
3.5
percent,
based
on
a
study
by
Bank
of
America
median
deposit
balances
are
actually
still
at
least
30
percent
higher
in
July
2023
compared
to
2019,
and
the
good
thing
is
the
highest.
Relative
growth
is
actually
among
lower
income
households.
AF
However,
while
lower
and
middle
income
households
remain
resilient,
higher
income
households
appear
to
be
under
some
pressure.
There
are
two
reasons
for
this,
so
first
unemployment
is
really
picking
up
from
low
levels
at
a
faster
pace
for
these
higher
income
earners.
The
second
reason
is
that
wage
growth
is
also
much
faster
for
lower
income
earners.
AF
Consumer
spending,
when
inflation
started
a
couple
of
years
ago,
people
really
took
a
much
dim
review
of
the
economy,
as
can
be
seen
in
this
consumer
sentiment
index
on
the
left
side
of
this
PowerPoint
slide,
things
got
very
expensive
and
there
were
talks
about
the
weakening
economy,
causing
a
recession
and
layoffs
associated
with
it.
More
recently,
however,
as
inflation
has
really
slowed
down,
and
even
as
interest
rates
have
increased,
we
have
not
seen
the
recession
in
Mass
layoffs.
People
are
afraid
of.
AF
AF
In
fact,
U.S
retail
sales
actually
arose
more
than
expected
in
July,
and
what
we're
seeing
is
that,
although
people
may
cut
back
on
some
basic
items,
they
still
want
to
spend
for
experiences
such
as
eating
out,
as
can
be
seen
in
this
table
on
the
right.
So
this
shows
that
average
restaurant
spending
over
a
two-week
period
broken
down
by
age
and
education
level
and
how
much
it's
grown
from
November
2022
to
June
2023.
AF
AF
Inflation
inflation
has
continued
to
moderate,
and
the
latest
CPI
number
you're
asking
actually
came
in
at
3.2
percent
in
July,
and
the
FEDS
preferred
a
PCA
indicate
pce
indicator
come
coming
in
at
3.3
percent,
so,
while
both
those
numbers
are
still
higher
than
the
two
percent
Target
both
have
come
down
significantly
from
the
highs
we
saw
last
year,
there
are
still
pockets
of
high
inflation,
though
such
as
car
insurance,
car
insurance
for
U.S
drivers
was
actually
18
percent
more
this
July
compared
to
last
year.
AF
AF
Looking
at
the
chart
on
the
right
B,
for
example,
is
up
more
than
30
percent
compared
to
2020.
drought,
pandemic
disruptions
and
Rising
costs
for
feed
have
prompted
livestock
owners
to
shrink
their
the
size
of
their
herd.
As
a
result,
the
number
of
cattle
in
the
U.S
is
now
at
its
lowest
level
in
a
decade,
so
while
definitely
hurts
more
to
eat
beef.
Now,
especially
those
fancy
Tomahawk
steaks,
the
good
news
is
doctors.
Our
doctors
have
always
been
telling
us
that
beef
is
not
very
healthy
anyway.
AF
AF
So
the
housing
market
housing
market
continues
to
be
at
a
standstill,
a
supply,
Still
Remains,
very
low
potential
sellers
are
choosing
to
stay,
put
and
not
put
their
homes
in
the
market
as
they
want
to
keep
their
low
mortgage
rates.
Although
there
is
still
a
demand
for
homes,
buyers
are
also
starting
to
get
discouraged
with
the
low
inventory
and
high
mortgage
rates.
So,
as
a
result,
Google
searches
for
home
for
sale
is
down
16
compared
to
last
year.
AF
The
big
difference
from
before
the
pandemic,
though,
is
really
the
housing
turnover
rate.
If
you
look
at
the
the
chart
on
the
right
in
2019,
housing
changed
hands
at
the
rate
of
19
homes,
for
every
1
000
homes
in
2023.
That
rate
dropped
to
14
of
every
the
one
thousand,
it's
even
worse
in
California,
where
the
turnover
rate
is
actually
six
to
nine
in
one
thousand,
and
this
is
primarily
due
to
Prop
13,
but
with
the
change
in
the
mortgage
rates,
that's
definitely
has
not
heard
that
helped
that
cost.
AF
So
asset
prices,
despite
talks
of
recession,
assets
prices
have
actually
not
come
down
as
much.
If
you
can
see,
the
s
p
is
just
off
six
percent
from
its
all-time
high
bond
prices
are
just
down
14
from
its
all-time
high.
The
recession
probability
probability
has
also
dropped
from
61
to
54.
Currently,
there's
actually
a
lot
of
uncertainty,
though,
and
it's
really
hard
to
tell
what
is
going
to
happen.
For
example,
Goldman
Sachs
thinks
that
a
probability
that
the
US
goes
into
recession
in
the
next
year
is
just
15
percent.
AF
AF
In
Jackson,
Hole
Fed
chair
Powell
reiterated
that
the
FED
would
continue
its
tight
monetary
policy
until
inflation
reaches
their
target.
As
a
result,
the
debate
the
debate
has
now
shifted
from
how
high
rates
should
go
to
how
long
they
should
stay
elevated
after
lifting
rates
in
July,
though
the
FED
is
expected
to
pass
its
rate
Tikes
in
September,
as
they
continue
to
continue
to
monitor
the
direction
of
the
economy.
AF
So
it
inflation,
slowing
down
and
a
strong
job
market
there's
definitely
been
a
lot
more
discussion
about
the
real
possibility
of
a
soft
Landing.
So
what
is
a
soft
Landing?
So
there's
three
main
criteria
for
it.
First,
there
should
be
no
recession,
meaning
no
GDP
contraction
for
an
extended
period
of
time.
Second,
a
strong
job
market,
meaning
unemployment
below
four
percent
and
finally,
low
inflation
close
to
as
close
as
possible
to
our
two
percent
goal.
AF
So
far,
we
met
two
of
the
three
criteria,
so
the
question
is
really
whether
we
can
hit
that
two
percent
inflation
without
costing
a
recession
or
increasing
unemployment.
Significantly,
indicators
are
suggesting
that
the
soft
Landing
may
be
possible.
There
are
definitely
a
lot
of
risk
factors,
factors
that
may
prevent
this
from
happening.
AF
There's
also
the
strong
consumer
demand.
It
gives
businesses
pricing
power
so,
as
we
saw
during
the
pandemic,
prices
are
not
necessarily
related
to
the
cost
to
produce
to
produce
these
Goods.
So,
for
example,
when
restaurants
see
that
people
are
willing
to
pay
35
dollars
for
a
bowl
of
pasta,
even
if
the
ingredients
only
cost
them
two
dollars,
they
will
still
charge
you
35
dollars
for
that
wonderfully
plated
bowl
of
spaghetti.
AF
Higher
interest
rates
are
also
there,
but
at
the
same
time,
it
has
really
minimal
impact
on
those
with
not
a
lot
of
debt
or
those
who
have
already
locked
in
their
fixed
mortgage
rates.
AF
Finally,
there's
that
shift
in
spending
mindset,
so
I
was
reading
an
article
today
and
it
says
that
about
one
in
five
Millennials
believe
they
will
never
own
a
home
right.
So
if
you
have
that
mindset
which
we
have
seen
in
other
urban
areas,
especially
internationally
right
like
Hong,
Kong
Tokyo,
all
your
money,
you're
just
going
to
spend
it
right,
so
you
spend
luxury
goods
you're,
not
going
to
save
save
up
for
that
home.
That
will
never
happen.
AF
Second,
there's
that
question
of
whether
various
risk
factors
May
threaten
our
overall
economic
stability,
so
we've
seen
credit
downgrades
for
the
US
Banks
in
other
sectors,
with
higher
interest
rates,
we're
also
seeing
higher
refinancing
costs
for
corporate
debt,
and
some
of
these
companies
are
going
through
bankruptcies.
Now,
as
a
result,
because
of
higher
vacancy
rates
for
offices
where
State
we're
seeing
the
decline
in
commercial,
real
estate
values
we're
also
seeing
this
U.S
China
decoupling
strategy
and
an
overall
movement
away
from
free
trade
policies.
AF
AF
Safety
or
principal
is
the
foremost
objective
and
with
all
our
investments,
our
goal
is
to
ensure
there
is
no
loss
of
principle.
So
we
continue
to
monitor
our
current
Holdings
as
well
as
conduct
comprehensive
due
diligence
when
making
new
Investments
with
liquidity
as
our
secondary
objective.
We
also
continue
to
maintain
ample
cash
levels,
so
we
can
ladder
our
portfolio
and
have
regular
maturities
to
meet
our
cash
flow
needs.
At
the
same
time,
though,
we
also
want
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
rates
continue
to
rise.
AF
Finally,
our
third
principle
is
yield
rates
continue
to
fluctuate,
and
this
volatility
has
really
allowed
us
to
take
advantage
of
opportunities
when
spreads
widen
or
when
rates
rise
temporarily,
while
rates
are
higher
in
the
short
term
because
of
it
inverted
yield
curve.
We
are
also
taking
this
opportunity
to
extend
duration
and
lock
in
younger
yields
for
future
income.
D
AG
AG
One
thing
to
know:
it
might
have
been
gloss
over
for
time.
Core
CPI
includes
durable
goods,
so
housing,
so
that
keep
that
in
mind
when
looking
at
anything,
including
core
CPI,
a
couple
questions
for
staff,
professor,
so
I'm
very
curious
how
this
all
works.
AG
How
do
you
determine
the
amount
of
liquidity?
The
city
keeps
why
not
more
less
I
saw
the
ranking
in
terms
of
priorities,
and
when
we
talk
about
the
general
fund,
is
that
contained
within,
like
it's
actually
stored
physically
in
the
money
market
fund?
Or
is
it
completely
separate?
Like
is
the
Investment
Portfolio,
including
the
money
market
fund
separate
from
our
general
fund?
I,
have
no
idea
how
the
city's
finances
work
yeah.
Those
are
my
questions.
That's
all!
Okay!
Thank
you.
Great.
AF
AF
So
first
question
you
had
was:
how
do
we
determine
our
liquidity?
So
in
our
investment
policy?
I,
don't
know
it's
on
our
website.
When
you
take
a
look
in
the
back,
it
gives
you
the
calculation,
so
we
take
into
account
eight
weeks
of
annual
appropriation.
So
we
look
at
our
overall
budget.
We
divide
it
by
52
weeks
and
then
we'll
multiply
that
by
eight
weeks
and
that's
the
overall
recommended
liquidity.
AF
We
usually
are
holding
a
lot
more
liquidity
than
that.
So
that's
about
100
million
give
or
take
more.
In
the
past
few
years,
we've
made
sure
we
have
a
little
more
than
that,
just
just
for
extra
safety.
D
AG
AF
Money
market
fund,
where,
yes,
so
the
money
market
fund,
is
within
our
whole
city
portfolio,
so
we
have
an
entire
portfolio
as
I
showed
in
the
table
a
while
ago,
and
one
component
of
that
is
our
money
market
fund,
which
is
capped
at
20.
So
the
general
fund
is
more
of
a
budget
language
versus
an
Investment
Portfolio
breakdown,
if
that
makes
it
easier
to
understand.
F
No
I,
just
thank
you.
Miss
Palmer,
great
job,
I,
know
that
the
mayor
and
myself
attended
the
committee
meeting
and
we
did
ask
you
a
lot
of
questions
and
explanations
and
you
did
provide
the
explanation.
I
always
take
your
advice
and
I.
Listen
to
you
very
carefully.
F
D
M
Yeah,
thank
you.
Miss
Palmer,
for
this
presentation,
I
think
it's
the
most
entertaining
economic
presentation,
I've
seen
in
in
the
history
of
economic
presentations,
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
and
your
presentation
was
very
well
presented
and
creative
examples.
I
don't
eat
beef
so
once
she
said
that
I
was
like
well,
that's
fine,
too
bad
for
you,
guys
and
I
love
beans,
so
I
just
a
quick
question
about
the
bonds
and
the
notes.
M
I,
don't
think
you
covered
that
in
your
presentation
specifically,
but
I
did
notice
that
some
of
the
bonds
and
notes
are
coming
to
maturity.
So
I
was
curious.
What
do
you
do
when
a
bond
or
our
note
comes
to
maturity?
Do
you
reinvest
in
directly
back
into
that
same
that
same
Bond
location,
or
do
you
do
a
do?
You
look
around
and
see
what
the
best
bonds
are.
How
does
that?
How
does
that.
AF
Work
so
in
Bonds
mature,
we
temporarily
put
it
in
our
money
market
fund
or
another
Pool
like
lay
for
Camp.
We
do
not
necessarily
reinvest
it
in
the
same
Bond,
because
I
don't
think.
That's
necessarily
necessarily
the
best
option
automatically
right.
So
it's
almost
like
when
your
car
insurance
or
your
home
insurance,
mature
or
you
know,
expires
right.
AF
You
don't
I
mean
a
lot
of
people
automatically
just
renew
it,
but
you
should
really
take
a
step
back
and
get
a
quote
again
from
all
these
insurance
companies
and
that's
what
we're
doing
with
these
bonds
that
mature
too,
we
take
a
step
back
and
then
we
see
hey
what
are
the
different
options
out
there
and
what's
the
best
option
for
us
at
this
time,
so
no
we
do
not
automatically
just
roll
it
over
in
the
same
button.
That's
great.
AH
AF
So
we
will
actually
take
a
closer
look
as
it
gets
closer
because,
even
though
it's
just
a
month
away,
things
could
change
drastically
in
the
markets,
but
as
it
gets
closer
we're
starting
to
think
about.
Okay,
now
that
these
are
our
percentages,
where
should
we
put
this
3
million?
That's
maturing?
AF
What
is
our
short
medium?
You
know
long-term
strategy.
As
you
know,
we
have
different
buckets
so
different
maturities,
so
if
we
feel
that,
for
instance,
we
have
already
have
too
many
maturities
in
2026
and
2027,
maybe
we
want
to
do
more
2028.
AF
You
know
things
like
that.
Yeah.
M
I
noticed
there
is
like
in
2026,
for
example,
there's
six
five
bonds
that
mature
all
at
the
same
time,
so
that
yeah,
if
I,
can
see
what
you're
saying
yeah
and
then
last
question
is:
do
you
have
a
community
spot
on
your
team
of
advisors
because
I
think
you
might
have
a
an
interested
party
in
the
audience
here
who
might
want
to
join
your
team.
AF
We
do
not
currently
have
a
spot
but
I'm
sure
there's
no
specific
rule
about
how
many
members
are
in
our
committees.
So
if
there's
any
interest
I'm
sure
we
could
make
room,
it's
always
good
to
have
different
perspectives.
Okay,.
B
I
I
Serious
questions,
but
that
one
really
got
me:
that's
you,
oh
Lord,
that
was
fun.
I
actually
wanted
to
talk
about
our
ESG
aspect
of
the
investment
strategy.
Just
reminder
ESG.
What
does
that
stand
for.
AF
It's
environmental,
social
and
governance.
So
that
means
that
when
we
make
our
investments,
we
take
these
factors
into
account
right.
So
we
try
to
invest
in
good
companies.
We
try
to
invest
in.
We
try
not
to
invest
in
companies
that
you
know
do
fossil
fuel
or
tobacco
things
like
that.
So
it's
just
keeping
that
in
mind
right.
So
when
you
invest
and
say,
try
to
invest
in
our
local
credit
unions.
Try
to
invest
in
credit
unions
that
cater
to
maybe
a
lower
income
or
historically
disadvantaged
group.
AF
It
depends
on
how
you
would
classify
say,
U.S
treasuries
or
U.S
agencies
right,
okay,
so,
right
now
the
bulk
of
our
investments
are
in
safer
instruments
that
are
backed
by
the
US
government.
So
I
would
assume
the
US
government
is
a
more
neutral
party,
although
there
are
actually
cities
that
do
not
invest
in
U.S
Investments,
because
the
U.S
has
nuclear
weapons.
So
it
really
depends
how
you
would
want
to
specifically
Define
ESG
versus
non-esg
Investments.
AF
Our
ESG
investment
policy
is
more
of
a
framework
sort
of
just
that
ongoing
mindset
when
making
Investments
we
do
not
specifically
classify
hey.
The
U.S
bond
is
not
ESG
or
it
is
ESG
or
you
know
an
agency,
Bond
or
I.
Don't
know
a
city
of
West
Hollywood
bond
is
that
ESG
is
not
ESG.
AF
Now,
right
now,
I
do
not
believe
we
have
any
investments
in
oil
and
gas
good.
I
To
hear
what
about
foreign
investments.
AF
So
we
do
not
make
foreign
investments
okay,
as
I
mentioned
I.
Think
a
couple
of
years
ago,
when
we
had
that
issue
with
Russia
and-
and
you
know,
like
the
ongoing
conflict
in
certain
parts
of
the
world,
we
actually
do
not
make
investments,
especially
in
areas
where
we
believe
certain
regions
are
committing.
AF
I
Thank
you.
The
last
thing,
I'll
just
say,
is
I
think
that
you
know
speaking
to
your
slide
about
ESG
Investments,
California,
Credit
Union,
that's
a
fantastic
investment.
A
lot
of
good
has
come
out
of
that
credit
union
with
the
loans
that
they've
extended,
so
keep
up
the
great
work
and
would
love
to
see
at
your
next
report.
What
else
we
can
highlight
from
that
aspect
of
the
portfolio?
Oh.
AF
D
Just
a
quick
update,
there
was
a
investment
we
had
with
a
bank
that
was
possibly
going
badly
and
we
made
some
changes.
Do
you
want
to
give
us
just
a
quick
update
on
what
happened
there
and
helmet
fairing.
AF
So
during
our
last
council
meeting,
we
talked
about
divesting
our
investments
in
a
U.S
Bank.
So
a
few
weeks
after
the
meeting,
we
did
sell
our
Holdings
in
U.S
bank
and
reinvested
the
proceeds
in
a
much
higher
interest
rate
instrument.
So
from
that
it
pretty
much
happened
as
we
planned
and
we
are
earning
a
lot
more
as
a
result
of
that
divestment.
Excellent.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
catching
that
U.S
Bank
thing
that
was
going
on.
Okay.
Thank
you.
So
much
I
appreciate
your
time.
Madam
City
treasure.
D
All
right,
the
next
report,
adoption
of
an
urgency
ordinance
imposing
heightened
tenant
protections
for
Just
Cause
evictions
for
certain
residential
tendencies
in
the
City
of
Burbank,
requiring
permits
for
demolition,
substantial
Remodel
and
increasing
the
relocation
assistance
payment
to
three
months
rent.
This
is
Maribel
Leland
there
you
are
Housing
Authority
manager.
Please
present
the
report.
D
AI
Good
evening,
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
Maribel
Leland,
with
the
Community
Development
Department
and
before
you
this
evening
to
present
a
proposed
urgency
ordinance
for
height
intended
protections
for
Just
Cause
evictions
for
certain
residential
tendencies
in
the
City
of
Burbank,
specifically
requiring
permits
for
demolition,
substantial
Rehabilitation
and
increasing
relocation
assistance
payments
to
three
months.
Rent.
AI
AI
AI
Again
it
just
very
generally
and
for
the
public
here
this
evening
and
who
are
listening
online
with,
and
it's
a
little
bit
of
background
from
the
city
council's
Direction
with
the
end
of
the
LA
County
covid
protection,
ordinance,
March,
31st
2023,
several
community
members
have
been
coming
to
the
council
and
the
commission
explaining
they
were
receiving
no
fault
eviction,
notices
for
renovations,
and
so
that
was
starting
around
April
1st,
and
so
the
council
had
previously
given
direction
for
a
study
session
and
we
ultimately
held
that
on
August
8th
and
to
understand
ab1482
a
little
bit
more.
AI
That
study
session
that
was
held
on
August
8th,
was
presented
by
miss
Karen
Tiedeman
with
gold,
Barb
Lipman
attorneys.
Who
provided
the
the
overview
of
the
California
attendant
protection
act
that
went
to
effect
January
1st
2020,
and
she
also
provided
some
policy
options
to
begin
the
discussion
on
a
possible
local
tenant
protection,
ordinance
that
could
promote
tenant
stability
and
increase
rental
market
stability.
AI
It
was
presented
that
ab1482
provides
just
cause
eviction
protections
for
certain
properties,
but
there
are
certain
areas
in
the
current
law
that
could
be
improved
upon,
including
the
attempt
to
renovate
language
and
furthermore,
it
was
highlighted
that
ab1482
requires
one
month.
Relocation
for
Just,
Cause
evictions.
AI
AI
We
also
learned
that
ab1482
provides
these
protections
to
certain
residents
that
have
been
in
their
units
for
12
months.
It
is
divided
into
at-fault
evictions,
meaning
at
fault,
non-payment
of
rent
breach
of
lease
so
forth,
and
so
on
and
no
fault
evictions,
as
I
was
sharing
earlier.
Regarding
Renovations
I
mean
that
could
be
owner
moving
substantial
renovation.
We
heard
also
that
evening
that
there
is
pending
legislation,
Senate
Bill
567-
that
may
look
at
closing
some
of
these
areas
by
requiring
permits
giving
a
tenant
a
right
to
occupy.
In
certain
instances.
AI
AI
That
short-term
Direction
was
specific
to
addressing
substantial
renovation
Renovations
in
ab1482
and
increasing
the
relocation
amount
from
ab1482
one
month
rent.
The
council
did
also
provide
additional
feedback,
but
not
a
part
of
the
action
this
evening,
and
that
was
more
midterm
to
return
with
a
second
step
report
that
addresses
more
direction
from
January
1st
2023,
including
options
for
rent
stabilization
and
tenant
protection
through
a
comparison
of
local
ordinances.
AI
That
is
not
a
part
of
this
evening's
action,
but
I
do
want
to
mention
and
reiterate
to
members
of
the
public
that
that
is,
a
staff
has
heard,
and
that
is
in
the
future,
and
then
long-term
direction
is
to
return
with
a
proposal
on
the
reach
and
purview
of
the
landlord
tenant.
Commission
again,
those
would
be
future
future
reassurance
to
the
city
council
for
for
direction
specifically
for
this
evening,
we're
looking
at
short-term
Council
Direction,
which
is
for
these
two
areas.
AI
I
do
want
to
mention
that,
although
the
council
will
be
considering
a
regular
non-urgency
ordinance
to
establish
tenant
protection
ordinance
later
this
evening,
the
council
stated
they
wished
to
implement
the
protections
as
soon
as
possible
in
order
to
prevent
additional
no-fault
evictions
due
to
renovation
that
may
occur
before
the
effective
date
of
the
ordinance.
Therefore,
the
this
item
does
include
urgency
findings
that
have
been
made
so
that
we
could
make
those
findings
and
present
that
ordinance
for
you
this
evening.
AI
So
now
getting
into
the
the
proposal
for
the
tenant
protections
as
directed
staff,
did
prepare
that
draft
ordinance
for
consideration.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
for
members
of
the
public
and
again
recap
the
council's
direction
of
the
larger
housing
goals
that
we've
been
talking
over
the
last
several
years.
This
is
a
very
familiar
housing
puzzle.
It
does.
AI
Such
an
ordinance
would
fall
under
the
goals
of
the
city
council
to
address
affordable
housing
needs
in
the
community
by
doing
possible
code
amendments
assisting
and
protecting
and
building
neighborhoods
and,
in
the
short
and,
in
the
short
term,
adjust
the
solution.
As
we've
been
indicating
for
substantial
renovation
and
relocation,
assistance.
AI
The
proposed
urgency
ordinance
on
this
evening
includes
additional
requirements
for
evictions
based
on
intent
to
demolish
or
substantially
remodel
a
property
and
understand,
not
terminate
a
tendency
based
on
the
owner's
intent
to
demolish
or
to
to
substantially
remodel
the
residential.
Real
property
owner
must
follow
all
the
requirements
which
are
summarized
here
in
the
slide.
Securing
building
permits
from
the
City
of
Burbank
for
substantial
remodel
or
demolition
permits
and
or
any
required
abatement
permits.
AI
That
was
the
first
provision
as
directed
by
the
city
council.
The
second
one
is
looking
at
an
enhanced
relocation,
payment
option
and
so
staff
looked
at
a
long-term
solution
to
relocation
for
assistance
for
no-fault
evictions,
as
opposed
to
the
city
renter
relocation
program,
approved
during
the
fiscal
year
2023
budget
process
that
I'll
be
describing
in
the
next
couple
of
slides
I
do
want
to
mention
those
because
it
is
critical
to
the
discussion.
AI
The
city
renter
relocation
program
was
meant
to
be
an
interim
program
from
the
discussion.
It
is
included
in
your
packet
as
an
attachment
to
the
staff
report
until
a
permanent,
a
solution
or
program
was
adopted
by
the
council.
It
is
in
place
currently
to
assist
eligible
households
that
have
received
a
no-fault
notice
to
vacate
and
it
assists
tenants
who
have
received
the
the
no
fault
notice
to
vacate
as
of
April
1st
2023.
AI
There
are
other
requirements,
including
being
a
Burbank
resident
for
one
year,
meeting
income
eligibility
requirements
from
extremely
low
to
moderate
income.
It
does
provide
a
different
parameters
for
assistance.
For
me,
moderate
income,
it
would
be
two
times
the
median
rent
for
extremely
low,
very
low
and
low.
It
would
be
three
times
the
median
rent
residents
can
visit
the
city's
website
for
additional
information
and
complete
program
details.
AI
The
proposed
ordinance
before
you
this
evening
requires
Property
Owners
to
provide
three
months
of
the
current's
rent
that
was
in
effect
when
the
owner
issued
the
notice
to
terminate
tenancy
this.
Is
it
an
increase
from
the
current
ab1482
one
month's
current
rent?
So,
if
adopted
this
evening
by
the
urgency
ordinance,
it
would
be
effective
immediately
and
no
fault.
Notices
to
vacate
given
September,
12,
2023
and
later
would
fall
under
the
proposed
misproposed
urgency.
Ordinance.
AI
Tying
it
back
to
the
Center
City
rental
relocation
program,
as
I
mentioned,
that
program
is
currently
in
place
and
the
way
that
this
would
be
differentiated
is
there
would
be
no
Gap
in
in
assistance
to
tenants
if
you
will
so
that
no
fault
notices
to
vacate
from
April
1st
2023
to
September
11th
2023
would
fall
under
the
City
rental
relocation
program,
so
that
renters
and
who
had
an
application,
for
example,
in
process
with
home
again
La.
Those
would
still
be
in
in
a
course
being
reviewed.
So
if
there
was
a
notice
to
vacate.
AI
AI
Those
are
the
two
provisions
of
the
urgency
ordinance
specific
to
substantial,
Renovations
and
also
enhanced
relocation
benefits.
One
other
area
that
the
council
did
provide
some
direction
at
the
ab1482
study
session
on
August
8th
is
asking
staff
to
look
at
what
is
possible
for
a
mom
and
pop
exemption
if
you
will,
and
for
the
purposes
of
this
ordinance
staff
defined,
mom
and
pop
as
those
properties
with
less
than
10
units.
So
that
really
was
the
approach
that
that
staff
utilized.
AI
So
we
did
work
with
a
different
departments
in
the
city
to
obtain
the
information
that
you
see
on
this
slide.
This
is
a
possible
exception
that
that
could
be
included
at
the
direction
of
the
city
council.
There's
some
figures
here.
It
could
be
an
exception
for
properties
with
less
than
five
units
or
less
than
10
units,
or
any
other
figure.
As
directed.
AI
AI
The
effectiveness
date
for
an
urgency
ordinance,
it
is
effective
immediately
if
adopted,
it
does
require
a
four-fifths
vote.
So
just
wanted
to
highlight
that,
as
it
is
different
than
the
second
item
here
following
this
item
regarding
the
introduction
of
an
ordinance
for
a
tenant
protection
ordinance,
so
that
would
require
a
second
reading
and
would
be
effective
31
days
after
the
date
of
adoption.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
for
the
Council
on
the
community.
AI
Knowing
this
is
a
lot
of
information
and
how
are
we
going
to
get
the
word
out
to
the
community
and
I
realize
that
is
one
of
the
critical
areas
of
the
community
is
is
going
to
be
concerned
with,
and
the
council
is
going
asking
that
we
do
Outreach.
We
certainly
have
a
plan
of
Outreach.
It's
going
to
include
the
usual
social
media
information.
However,
knowing
not,
everybody
is
on
social
media
printed
material
and
even
you
know,
more
importantly,
is
in
person.
So
we
have
an
in-person
Workshop
coming
up
in
October.
AI
That
is
going
to
be
facilitated
by
the
neighborhood
legal
council,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
want
to
make
sure
is
that
we
get
the
word
out
to
the
community,
including
our
existing
landlord
tenant
commission
meetings.
AI
So
we
are,
are
really
going
to
be
working
very
closely
with
the
public
information
office
to
make
sure
that
the
information
is
out,
including
fact
sheets,
on
the
website,
a
press
release
to
the
community
so
that
they're,
aware
of
of
what
this
is
and
as
we
get
more
feedback,
we'll
we'll
tailor
what
the
Outreach
will
be
again.
Staff
from
my
perspective,
I
think
in
workshops
in
person.
That's
really
going
to
be
critical
because
there
will
be
many
questions
moving
forward.
AI
If,
if
this
urgency
ordinance
is
adopted
along
with
that
Outreach,
the
question
will
be
enforcement
and
one
of
the
things
that
wanting
to
point
out
is
that
the
enforcement
for
this,
for
the
ordinance
is,
is
specifically
that
if
the
landlords
do
not
follow
the
proposed
ordinance,
then
it
renders
the
notice
of
termination
tendency
void.
So
then,
at
that
point
the
tenant
can
then
utilize
the
ordinance,
if
adopted
as
an
affirmative
defense,
to
an
unlawful
detainer
in
Civil
Court.
AI
Really
so
so,
really
the
the
enforcement
is
through
the
tenant
being
educated,
which
we
will
do
with
the
Outreach.
That's
going
to
be
critical
and
then
utilizing
the
information
that
they
know,
and
this
adopted
ordinance
of
should
it
be
approved.
Then
utilizing
that
as
a
civil
case,
a
defense
in
court.
AI
So
with
that,
the
recommendation
this
evening
is
to
adopt
the
urgency
ordinance
as
presented
in
your
materials.
I
know
that
there
was
some
follow-up
information
provided
imposing
heightens
tenant
protections
for
Just
Cause
evictions
for
certain
residential
tenancies
in
the
City
of
Burbank,
requiring
permits
for
demolition,
substantial
Remodel
and
increasing
the
relocation
assistance
payment
to
three
months.
Rent
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
K
Mr
Mayor
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
for
the
council
and
the
city
clerk
that
we
distributed
and
a
memo
with
a
red
line
to
the
ordinance
before
you
this
evening.
There
was
a
very
simple
addition
that
we
made
it's
one
paragraph:
it's
numbered
100
5-4-100,
it
doesn't
change
the
numbering
of
the
original
ordinance.
K
It
simply
adds
a
provision
that
says
this
chapter
adopts
and
incorporates,
by
reference
California
code,
section
1946.2
in
this
code
in
its
entirely
as
modified
herein
and
and,
as
such
statute
may
be
amended
from
time
to
time,
except
for
any
provisions
that
directly
conflict.
So
this
simply
incorporates
the
statute
within
our
own
ordinance
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
line
with
a
provision
in
1946.2
that
says
a
property
can't
be
subject
to
both
the
state
law
and
the
local
law.
K
Well,
it's
all
being
done
in
the
ordinance
gotcha,
so
there's
no
aside
from
adopting
whether
it's
just
the
urgency,
ordinance
or
just
the
normal
ordinance
or
both
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance
incorporates
by
reference
and
makes
the
changes
all
at
once.
This
is
the
same
manner
in
which
you
do
it
for
all
the
uniform
codes,
the
building
code,
electrical
code,
plumbing
code,
Property
Management
code
Etc.
So
this
was
for
consistency,
okay,
so.
AJ
AJ
AJ
Covet
happened,
SB
1482
happened,
I
have
14
units,
I
had
certain
individuals
that
lost
their
job,
didn't
try
to
stay
and
not
pay
the
rent
and
they
moved.
We
worked
out
an
arrangement,
some
had
to
move
immediately.
Some
gave
me
30
days
notice
and
we
worked
it
out.
AJ
Three
years
now
have
passed.
People
who
got
behind.
They
got
current,
that's
what
happens
in
life.
You
take
on
a
responsibility
and
you
follow
through
with
it.
So
those
people
who
couldn't
afford
to
stay
moved
on
their
own
I
did
not
evict
them
and
those
that
couldn't
afford
spoke
to
me.
We
made
arrangements,
they
paid
me
what
they
could
afford
to
pay
me
and
guess
what
they
got.
AJ
Either
extra
jobs
or
their
jobs
called
them
back
or
they
got
other
jobs,
but
they
wanted
to
stay
in
Burbank
and
contribute,
and
they
got
current
with
me
and
that's
how
I
run
my
business,
so
I
thought
getting
used
to
operating
under
SB
1482
and
then
the
City
of
Burbank
stepped
up
and
wanted
to
help
further
with
the
hella
provision,
I
thought
we
would
just
move
forward
and
see
how
that
worked
out.
AJ
My
cost
to
build
of
business
running
or
my
housing
has
really
increased.
In
the
last
two
years,
I've
got
to
come
up
with
a
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars.
My
my
rents
for
the
to
keep
Burbank
safe
to
re,
to
reinforce
my
carports
I've
got
to
come
up
with
170
000..
My
tenants
aren't
going
to
pay
me
170
000
in
a
short
term
basis
at
all,
I
have
to
take
a
loan
for
that
rent
control.
Is
there
so
I
work
within
that
I,
don't
charge
my
tenants
NADA.
AK
Good
evening
Mr
Mayor
city
council
name
is
Harry
to
Maria
and
I
represent
the
Burbank
Association
of
Realtors
council
member
Perez,
I.
Think
we'll
be
more
than
happy.
We've
got
983
members
we're
more
than
happy
to
help
you
out
find
finding
a
house
any
one
of
ours.
What
can
do
that
incredible
loan
programs
we
can
make
it
happen.
AK
Ask
ask
vice
mayor
the
recommendations
that
that
staff
has
provided
this
evening
for,
for
the
ordinance
is
it's
over
broad
far
and
excessive.
The
the
Burbank
Association
Realtors
urges
the
city
council
to
reject
these
ordinances
as
written
and
direct
staff
to
create
a
more
direct
and
tailored
ordinance
that
is
fair
and
Equitable
to
all
the
residents
of
Burbank,
both
the
housing
providers
and
the
renters
number
one.
The
Provost
ordinance
covers
all
no
fault
evictions.
This
includes
substantial
remodels
and
demolitions,
but
it
also
includes
government
mandates
and
owner
move-ins.
AK
AK
The
second
proposal
of
Greater
relocation
fees
is
well
above
and
beyond
even
the
city's
own
holla
program,
while
the
Hall
of
program
excludes
middle
and
high
income
earners
from
receiving
relocation
assistance,
the
proposed
ordinance
does
not
provide
for
any
means
test
whatsoever.
That
means
mom-and-pop.
Housing
providers
will
bear
a
greater
financial
burden.
Even
when
the
City
of
Burbank
sets
limits
for
itself,
the
ordinance
should
align
with
the
parameters
the
city
currently
has
in
place
with
the
hollow
program.
We're
not
opposed
to
it.
We're
just
saying
you
got
to
take
into
consideration.
AK
You
set
a
limit
for
yourself.
Why
are
these
small
and
pop
owners
going
to
take
the
burden
of
it?
We
agree
that
housing
providers
that
intend
to
evict
due
to
substantial
remodel
should
provide
the
tenants
with
proof
of
permits
required
for
the
proposed
scope
of
housing.
Staff's
proposal
of
marrying
the
proof
of
permits
with
relocation
fees
is
alarming.
Staff
should
write
an
ordinance
tailored
only
to
the
requirement
of
permits
for
substantial
remodel.
AK
We
were
hoping
that
we
would
be
reached
out
to
during
the
last
meeting
as
Council
directed
staff
to
do
no
one
reached
out
to
us.
We
are
the
premier
Association
in
the
city,
the
targeted
Association
that
represents
renters
homeowners,
housing
providers.
We
want
to
be
in
this
conversation
Let's
help
each
other
out.
Let's
do
this
together.
We've
got
a
wealth
of
knowledge,
983
members
that
can
sit
down
and
give
you
guys
real
life
examples
reject
this
ordinance,
go
back,
let's
write
a
tailored
one
and
let's
work
together
on
it.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
AH
Sorry
figure
out
the
best
way
to
get
here.
My
name
is
Max
Sherman
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
Apartment
Association
of
Greater,
Los
Angeles,
so
agla
we
predominantly
represent
mom
and
pop
Property
Owners
rental
housing
providers
here
in
Burbank
and
throughout
Los
Angeles
County.
We
urge
the
city
council
to
reject
the
ordinance
as
currently
written
and
instead
delegate
the
issue
to
the
previously
created
subcommittee
for
further
review
stakeholder
engagement
and
recommendations
for
revisions,
while
continuing
the
existing
successful
hola
program
home
again,
Los
Angeles
rental
assistance
program.
AH
First
and
foremost,
the
current
ordinance
being
presented
covers
all
no
fault
evictions,
including
owner
move-ins,
government
mandates
and
substantial
remodels.
The
only
issue
that
was
presented,
which
was
in
the
case
of
one
building,
was
exclusively
related
to
substantial
remodel.
So
it's
unclear
why
the
proposal
to
cover
is
to
cover
all
no
fault
evictions.
This
was
not
asked
for
by
Council
and
is
overly
Broad.
AH
Secondly,
the
proposed
ordinance
to
provide
much
higher
amounts
for
relocation
fees
to
be
paid
and
covers
a
much
larger
group
of
renters,
including
those
making
middle
and
high
income
that
do
not
need
financial
assistance.
This
is
well
beyond
the
assistance
that
city
council
considered
fair
and
reasonable
when
it
created
challah
and
started
taking
applications
just
two
months
ago.
It's
also
triple
the
amount
current
state
law
requires
rental.
AH
This
program
also
provides
valuable
data
to
City
Council
on
what
is
happening
on
the
ground
in
Burbank
regarding
substantial
remodels
and
the
number
of
people
being
impacted
further
is
vital
that
the
city
council
received
detailed
input
from
all
stakeholders,
including
renter
and
Rental
housing
providers,
when
creating
an
ordinance
that
will
impact
the
entire
Community.
As
we
already
discussed
and
agreed
by
Council,
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
subcommittee
headed
by
council
members,
Perez
and
Takahashi
to
review
this
issue
and
present
recommendations.
However,
to
our
knowledge,
there
has
never
been
a
single
meeting.
AH
The
subcommittee
nor
has
agla
been
reached
out
to
for
participation
on
it
by
staff
on
it
or
by
staff
directly.
If
the
existing
council
members
do
not
have
the
time
in
their
schedules
for
the
subcommittee,
and
we
request
that
other
council
members
be
allowed
to
serve
on
the
subcommittee
in
their
place.
Without
such
collaborative
discussions,
the
city
council
will
not
have
a
full
view
of
the
issue
or
its
potential
impacts
of
all
stakeholders
involved,
nor
benefit
from
recommendations
substantially
improve
the
existing
draft
ordinance.
We
look
forward
to
continuing
engaging
with
city
council.
AH
D
You
thank
you.
Matt
Buck,
followed
by
Lynn
worrylow.
AL
Good
evening
Matt
Buck
California
the
California
Apartment
Association,
it's
college
football
season
just
had
to
throw
that
in
there.
You
got
our
letter
on
this.
It's
part
of
the
public
record
from
the
last
time
not
going
to
rehash
through
all
that,
but
again
I'm
bringing
up
the
point.
Our
understanding
was
that
the
three-month
relocation
was
for
substantial,
remodel
only
owner
move-in,
for
no
fault
is
much
different,
a
much
different
situation,
these
folks
own
their
house.
They
have
a
family
situation,
they
got
to
move
someone
in
a
lot
of
times.
AL
D
Thank
you.
Lynn
worry
low,
followed
by
Julio
haramillo.
B
AM
I,
don't
have
to
time
all
right
good
evening,
council
members
mayor,
my
name
is
Lynn
Marie,
Warlow
and
I
am
a
resident
of
Burbank
for
23
years
now,
and
my
parents
were
here
for
about
25
30
years
before
that
they
moved
here.
They
had
a
business
here
and
they
died
here
and
I.
Part
of
my
move
here
was
to
get
closer
to
them
when
they
were
aged,
so
I
and
my
adjacent
tenants
who
have
lived
there
the
longest
so
our
rent
reflects
that
are
in
the
middle
of
a
60-day.
AM
You
know
remodel
notice,
right
and
so
that's
why
I'm
here
I'm
a
little
off
my
thing,
because
I've
heard
a
lot
of
things
here
that
I
kind
of
want
to
comment,
so
I
might
be
a
little
scattered
and
I'm
just
going
to
jump
to
a
couple
things
two
points
that
were
people
are
referring
to
Mom
and
Pop,
and
if
I
understood
it
correctly,
the
definition
was
in
relation
to
less
than
five
or
less
than
10
units.
AM
I'm,
not
thinking
so
in
our
case,
so
Mom
got
aged
and
kids
took
it
over
and
got
management
companies,
but
we
have
new
owners
in
April,
so
I
wanted
to
bring
up
what
the
women
who
called
in
who
was
a
property
owner
who
was
talking
about
balancing
you,
know
the
renters
and
and
and
and
I'm
gonna?
Oh,
my
God
I'm
not
going
to
get
any
of
this
in,
but
I'll
do
my
best.
AM
She
was
speaking
more
to
the
outside
investor,
so
for
me,
I
would
make
a
distinction
there
when
you
talk
mom
and
pop
because
I'm
experiencing
the
outside
investor
right
now
experience
so
I
would
really
think
about
that
as
the
definition
or
part
of
the
definition
and
not
the
number
of
units,
and
then
the
other
thing
is
a
three
months
location
for
somebody.
Who's
been
here
23
years.
AM
Now,
of
course,
I
have
friends,
so
I
won't
be
on
the
street,
and
that
would
be
for
a
limited
time
period
and
something
would
be
worked
out,
but
I
just
want
to
okay,
I
have
10
seconds,
I
didn't
get
anywhere,
but
but
main
point
two
like
it
at
what
cost?
At
what
cost
you
know?
Do
we
want
to
disrupt
the
residents.
AN
How
you
doing
Julio
Jaramillo.
AN
I'm
sorry
I
missed
the
the
General
comment
section,
but
I
was
watching
Columbia
play
chili.
So
I
wanted
to
first
comment
on
that
for
a
minute,
but
I
wanted
to
remind
everybody
that
and
I
hate
to
say
it.
But
I
told
you
so
that
this
mayor
doesn't
care
about
Burbank
or
the
constituents
of
Burbank
or
what
happens
in
Burbank.
He
came
here
from
Oakland
with
high
aspirations
to
go
to
La
and
all
of
these
Antics
and
his
fox
interview
are
telling
you
who
he
is
he's
a
communist
he's
a
Socialist
Communist.
AN
He
wants
to
eliminate
our
police
force
our
jails.
He
wants
to
bring
Smash
and
grab
to
a
Burbank
store
near
you,
so
you
saw
it.
The
curtain
has
been
pulled
on
the
fraud
that
he
is
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that.
But
now,
let's
talk
about
this
ordinance
here
again
is
government
trying
to
do
something
good
I
get
it
again,
like
I
told
you
before,
but
you're,
not
thinking
you're,
not
thinking
what
you're
doing
is
making
it
worse
so
picture
this.
AN
You
have
somebody
with
a
a
single
family
home
and
your
comrades
already
in
Sacramento
or
putting
in
the
ordinances.
You
don't
need
to
do
more,
so
they
put
in
an
ordinance
that
says.
Oh
now,
I
can
build
four
units
on
there,
but
you're
now
putting
something
that
says.
No
you're
I'm
not
have
no
incentive
to
evict
this
person
and
build
four
units
and
add
more
inventory
to
the
city
which
will
and
hopefully
bring
down
rents.
When
you
have
more
inventory,
you
can't
do
that
now,
because
you're
making
it
more
expensive
to
do
that.
AN
Secondly,
you're,
making
it
less
competitive
for
any
Builders
to
come
to
Burbank.
They
have
there's
already
a
California
law
and
they're
saying
well:
Altadena
doesn't
have
this
or
El
Segundo
doesn't
have
this,
but
now
Burbank
put
this
ordinance
in
and
say:
do
I
want
to
build
in
Burbank
and
add
more
units
and
add
more
inventory
and
potentially
bring
down
the
rents,
no
I'm
gonna.
AN
Do
it
now
to
Dean
and
El
Segundo,
because
Birdman's
just
gonna
knock
me
out
of
the
business
and
make
it
more
difficult
for
me
to
operate
and
third,
the
the
our
lovely
mayor.
When
he
came
to
discussing
his
salary
again,
the
hypocrisy
of
of
our
government,
it
brings
up
the
inflation
rate,
but
when
we
were
talking
about
the
already
rent
control
of
California
at
eight
percent
and
when
you
want
to
bring
in
five
percent
or
maybe
two
percent
I'm
hearing
these
rent
boards
come
out.
AN
AN
There
are
real
property
laws,
that's
what
defines
democracy,
the
ownership
of
property
and
whether
you
you
can't
afford
it
in
Burbank
I
couldn't
afford
it
in
Burbank
and
I
ran
it
here
and
then
I
moved
to
North,
Hollywood
and
I
saved
some
money
and
I
came
back
and
bought
in
Burbank
and
guess
what
now
I've
been
been
Burbank
for
48
years
and
I
love
it
in
Burbank
and
you're,
trying
to
once
again
destroy
it,
bring
it
down
to
a
level
of
San
Francisco,
Cisco
Oakland.
Look
at
the
news
see
what's
happening.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
You
Alejandra
arcinega,
followed
by
Alessandra
Valdez.
AO
Hi
good
evening,
y'all
I'm
happy
to
be
here:
I
wanted
to
address
a
cook,
a
couple
things
very
quickly
and
then
make
a
few
suggestions.
So
I
know
we
keep
talking
about
567
we've
gotten
email
alerts,
it's
being
whittled
away,
so
to
stick
with
everyone
else's
beef
pun.
AO
There's
no
meat
left
on
that
bone,
so
substantial
remodels.
There
is
no
definition
in
terms
of
what
that
is
in
the
proposed
ordinance.
So
I'm
gonna
go
with
what
our
attorney
has
suggested.
AO
Items
15
and
16
on
the
September
12th
agenda
of
the
Burbank
City
Council
propose
an
urgency
and
permanent
just
cause
protection
ordinance
that
effectively
duplicate
State
tenant
protection
act.
Protections
requires
permits
before
demolition,
substantial,
remodel
evictions,
two
increases
relocation
assistant
payments
to
three
months.
Rent
the
proposed
ordinance
does
not
close
the
renovation
loophole
and
is
not
a
universal
just
cause
ordinance
as
tenants
have
been
demanding.
Nor
does
it
include
rent
stabilization.
Therefore,
the
proposed
ordinance
is
insufficient.
AO
Here's
what
we're
proposing,
amend
items,
15
and
16
to
fix
the
renovation
loophole
by
removing
substantial
renovation
as
a
just
cause
completely
the
pros
are
that
it
adopts
a
stronger
renovation
policy
tomorrow.
It
is
going
to
require
some
changes.
It's
required
it's
going
to
require
more
policy,
explanation
to
City
departments
potentially,
but
would
still
be
adopting
a
weaker
permanent
and
just
cause
ordinance
without
rent
stabilization.
AO
AO
The
other
thing
is,
we
could
propose
15
and
16
as
a
temporary
ordinance
as
we
wait
to
propose
a
permanent
just
cause
ordinance,
we're
still
waiting
for
the
Second
Step
staff
report.
It
has
not
been
presented.
Staff
needs
to
follow
the
direction
that
the
city
council
originally
gave
them
in
January
to
properly
agendize
a
permanent
rent,
stabilization,
rent
stabilization
ordinance.
We
look
forward
to
your
support.
Miss
Takahashi
we've
had
lovely
conversations
with
you.
We
know
that
the
moms
and
the
moms
groups
are
facing
a
lot
of
evictions.
AO
AP
AP
Dated
on
the
renovation
crisis
that
has
been
plaguing
our
city
in
between
the
August
8th
study
session,
and
now
there
have
been
tenants
from
four
different
apartment
buildings
that
have
been
affected
by
the
renovation
crisis.
This
will
continue
to
happen
until
you,
the
council
members,
take
action
on
this
from
our
conversations
I'm,
especially
grateful
to
hear
that
mayor,
Anthony
and
council
member
Takahashi
have
understood
the
urgency
of
this
crisis
and
how
we
need
to
act.
AP
It's
important
to
close
this
loophole
permanently
and
as
tenants
we've
been
speaking
with
you
directly
to
let
you
know
that
this
proposed
ordinance
does
not
go
far
enough.
It
doesn't
fully
close
the
loophole,
and
these
exemptions
that
were
mentioned
earlier
have
no
way
of
tracking
whether
or
not
property
owners
own
other
property
in
different
parts
of
LA.
AP
As
a
coalition
of
renters
and
homeowners
in
Burbank,
we're
looking
to
you
to
ensure
that
members
of
our
community
seniors
single
parents,
families,
Working,
Class
People,
who
all
live
in
this
city
are
not
displaced
from
a
renovation
ever
again.
We
hope
that
you
will
follow
through
on
your
commitment
to
standing
up
for
tenants
by
passing
the
strongest
possible
protections
tonight.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
Thank
you,
Jose
pimienta,
followed
by
John
Fisher.
AQ
Good
evening
mayor
vice
mayor
council,
members
staff,
everyone,
everyone
here,
I
want
to
be
very
careful
with
the
words
that
I
choose
and
one
of
the
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because,
well
a
couple
of
reasons.
One
is:
we
have
been
observing
the
efforts
that
everyone
is
making
to
you
know
in
order
to
improve
the
life
of
the
of
the
residents
of
Burbank
and
I
want
to
be
respectful
for
that
I
want
to
go.
I
want
to
be
grateful
for
that
as
well.
AQ
Also,
I
want
to
be
careful
with
the
words
that
I
choose,
because
currently
there
are
people
facing
a
60-day
notice
to
vacate,
which
means
that
whatever
is
happening
right
now.
Those
people
are
still
their
clock
is
ticking
and
the
re.
But
the
main
reason
for
that
is
because,
as
someone
who
has
been
showing
up
constantly
insisting
for
tenant
protections,
once
there
was
a
notice
that
there
was
going
to
that,
this
was
going
that
there
was
going
to
be
an
ordinance
personally.
AQ
AQ
The
other
one
is
there
is
the
the
three
times
current
rent
to
for
relocation
and,
as
you
start
doing,
the
math
on
that
it's
insufficient
for
people
that
have
to
that
that
are
being
asked
to
leave
their
homes
for
no
fault
of
their
own
I'm,
going
to
quote
a
person,
a
person
who's
actually
following
up
next
when
he
said
he
on,
he
said
here
that
he
had
to
pay
eight
thousand
dollars
to
move.
AQ
So,
even
if
you
were
to
be
given
three
times
current
rent,
if
this
happens
to
him
in
the
next
12
months,
that
won't
add
up
to
another
eight
thousand
dollars.
That
means
that
he's
going
to
be
paying
for
his
move
out
of
pocket
for
no
fault
of
his
own
I'm.
Just
using
that
example,
as
other
people
are
facing
the
same
situation.
AQ
With
that
in
mind,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
again,
I
want
to
stretch
it
again.
I
see
the
efforts
that
are
being
made
and
I
will
keep
saying.
Every
step
forward
in
this
direction
is
a
step
that
I
will
take
so
with
that
I
will
say
to
it
to
you.
Thank
you
for
the
efforts
that
you're
making.
Thank
you
for
continuing
to
do
such
works,
but
I
do
think
that
you
know.
AQ
D
All
right,
John
Fisher,
followed
by
Sean.
AR
Good
evening,
city
council,
thank
you
for
hearing
me.
I
wanted
to
start
by
reminding
everyone
on
the
Deus
that
it
can
be
easy
to
assume
that
this
isn't
affecting
a
lot
of
people
because
of
the
number
of
people
that
come
tonight.
It's
a
very
small
number
of
people
that
are
able
to
speak
in
person
or
call
in
on
the
phones
which
nobody
can
call
for
this
comment
period.
But
we
have
jobs.
AR
AR
This
measure
feels
a
bit
like
fighting
the
war
on
Tobacco
by
Banning,
certain
colored
matchbooks
three
months
of
the
current
market
rate
of
the
current
tenants
print,
it's
better
than
what
we
have
right
now,
I'm,
not
going
to
say
it
isn't
three
months
of
the
current
market
rate
would
be
better
still,
as
we
heard
tonight
from
somebody
on
the
landlord
side
that
this
isn't
fair.
We
want
to
talk
about
Fair
How,
about
if
you're
paying
your
rent,
you
don't
get
kicked
out
of
your
home,
that's
fair,
How
about.
AR
If
your
apartment
is
habitable,
they
can't
renovate
no
discretionary
renovations.
If
all
the
people
I've
heard
from
tonight
that
have
said,
I
would
never
kick
out
a
pain,
tenant
cool.
This
doesn't
affect
you.
All
we're
saying
is
closing
the
loophole
that
you
cannot
use
this
law
as
an
excuse
to
kick
out
somebody
who's
been
staying
in
your
unit
for
a
long
time
in
order
to
reset
the
rent
on
that
unit.
AR
If
you
want
to
do
things
right,
if
you
want
to
do
things
fair,
when
that
tenant
moves
out,
which
you
can
Empower
them
to
move
out
sooner,
that's
when
you
should
do
it.
That's
when
my
current
landlord
is
doing.
He
has
three
empty
units
cool
nobody's
here,
perfect
time
to
renovate
that's
how
we
should
be
doing
it.
That's
how
we've
done
it
for
decades
for
Generations
this
shouldn't
be
the
new
normal.
My
the
the
time
frame
of
we
can't
complete
the
work
within
30
days
or
safely,
while
you're
there
I,
swung
by
my
old
building.
AR
They
are
dragging
their
feet
on
that
to
make
sure
that
it
takes
the
legal
amount
of
time
for
them
to
justify
kicking
us
all
out.
I
could
have
personally
demolished
those
units
faster
than
they
were
three
weeks
after
my
move
out
date,
my
cabinets,
my
sink,
and
my
wall
heater
were
the
only
and
my
air
conditioner
were
the
only
things
removed
from
my
unit
three
weeks
same
with
all
the
other
units.
Three
people
could
have
done
that
job
in
a
week.
AR
AS
AS
I'm
here
before
you
tonight
to
express
my
opposition
to
rent
stabilization
or
any
form
of
rent
control
in
the
City
of
Burbank.
Having
said
that,
I
do
think
that
it's
important
to
have
reasonable
tenant
protections
as
it
relates
specifically
to
no
cause
or
no
fault
evictions
related
to
a
substantial
renovation.
Having
said
that,
I
Echo,
some
of
the
other
speakers
who
spoke
before
me
I,
do
think
that
you
have
a
very
broad
ordinance
in
front
of
you.
That's
fairly
Broad
in
reach
and
in
terms
of
the
rental
assistance.
AS
I
do
agree
with
the
previous
or
former
speaker
who
said
that
there
should
be
a
stratification
as
to
a
means
test
for
the
relocation
test.
That's
consistent
with
what
the
city
council
approved
for
the
renter
relocation
program
which,
to
your
credit,
was
and
is
successful,
so
I
would
think
that
there
would
be
a
commensurate
form
of
income-based
tests
for
the
tenant
to
get
the
relocation
assistant,
but
I
agree
that
there
should
be
some
form
of
reasonable
protections
for
tenants,
as
it
relates
to
no
fault
evictions.
AS
But
my
concern
more
so
is
that
this
ordinance
is
a
disguised
potentially
for
a
future
rent,
stabilization
ordinance
or
opening
the
door
to
jam
or
rent
stabilization
ordinance
into
the
City
of
Burbank
I
think
it
would
be
very
disingenuous
of
the
city
to
adopt
this
ordinance
or
something
related
to
the
tenant
protections.
To
then
use
that
as
a
conduit
to
push
rent
control
which
is
not
related
to
tenant
protections.
So
one
is
a
matter
of
affordability.
AS
One
is
a
matter
of
tenant
protections
and
I,
appreciate
your
consideration
and
your
time,
and
and
that's
it
for
me
tonight.
Thank.
D
You
George
Garrow,
followed
by
John
Garrow.
AT
My
name
is
George,
I,
have
a
degree
in
economics,
I'm
a
real
estate
attorney
and
actively
advising
clients
on
how
to
comply
with
ab1482.
All
of
my
clients
are
in
compliance
with
1482..
The
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
just
very
meta
here
right
about
the
community,
because,
as
a
community,
we
could
be
integrated
or
we
could
be
divided.
I,
don't
think
it's
good
to
be
divided,
it's
better
to
cooperate
than
to
compete
against
each
other
I.
AT
Think
if
we
cooperate,
the
housing
providers
can
do
just
that
they
could
provide
more
housing,
but
right
now
the
uncertainty
is
throwing
it's
chilling.
The
market
I
think
and
increased
regulations
may
actually
undermine
our
communities,
housing,
Supply
and
affordability,
because
we
want
more
housing.
That's
a
Cooperative
solution
that
everybody
can
agree
to.
AT
However,
by
increasing
the
regulations
on
housing,
are
we
dissuading
people
from
adding
more
housing?
It's
an
interesting
question
because
we
have
two
goals
and
those
goals
may
be
in
Conflict
the
goal
to
add
more
housing
and
the
goal
to
increase
housing
regulations
undermine
each
other.
So
let's
look
towards
a
Cooperative
settlement
in
lawsuit.
Settlements
are
very
important
settlement.
It
involves
both
sides
not
getting
everything
that
they
want.
Oftentimes
settlements
feel
like
it's
a
compromise
and
it
is
a
compromise
and
it's
a
good
thing,
because.
AT
There's
a
social
line
that
sometimes
we
don't
know
that
we're
crossing
that
line.
It
was
a
good
analogy
earlier,
because
the
if
we
are
able
to
cooperate
and
unite
the
community
and
then
we
are
we're
not
creating
dissent
and
division
within
the
community.
We're
not
crossing
any
lines,
but
sometimes
just
because
we
have
the
power
to
do
something
doesn't
mean
that
we
should
do
it
or
that
it's
a
good
thing
to
do.
AT
So,
if
we,
if
we
exercise
I'm,
concerned
that
the
council
is
going
to
effectively
ignore
a
segment
of
the
community
and
that
we're
not
going
to
have
a
a
wholesome
something
that
we
could
all
agree
to,
and
that
would
be
very
powerful,
I
think
if
we
could
come
up
here
and
say
what
I'm
saying
about
the
ordinance
tonight,
which
is
that
neither
side
is
getting
everything
that
they
want,
but
it's
reasonable
and
that's
why
these
these
Chambers
are
not
packed
right
now,
because
it's
it's
it's
a
it's
something
where
not
both
sides
think
that
they're
getting
everything
that
they
want,
so
I
would
like
to
volunteer
to
participate
in
the
housing
Roundtable.
AT
D
Thank
you,
George
John
Garrow,
followed
by
David
Donohue.
AU
Good
evening,
everyone-
and
thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
to
address
the
issues
honorable
mayor
and
city
manager
and
the
housing
department
and
City
attorney,
and
each
of
you
who
have
lent
your
time
to
listen
to
us
individually.
While
all
parties
are
concerned
about
housing
in
general.
AU
AU
The
original
tenant
would
be
asked
to
reoccupy
the
unit,
but
the
difference
in
rent
between
what
they
were
paying
and
the
new
rent
for
the
remodeled
unit
could
be
picked
up
by
a
voucher.
Perhaps
so
that's
something
to
consider.
Also.
The
bottom
line
is
to
assure
that
this
particular
proposed
ordinance
if
voted,
does
not
materialize
into
a
platform
for
more
restrictions
that
are
city-wide
and
does
not
serve
as
a
Prelude
to
rent
caps
other
than
those
set
forth
in
1482
and
also
as
possibly
addressed
by
SB
567.
AU
If
passed
and
not
allow
any
form
of
rent
board,
we
support
the
mediation
process
through
landlord
tenant
and
with
the
assistance
of
city
attorney's
office.
We
support
the
interim
relocation
program,
I
think
it's
working
and
we
should
keep
that
going.
We
didn't
use
all
the
funds
and
it's
there,
it's
appropriated,
so
that's
a
consideration
as
a
side
note.
The
market
is
presently
experiencing
soft
rent
right
now.
AU
AU
As
a
last
note,
I
received
two
notices
from
Chase
bank
today
that
my
interest
rate
was
going
up
from
3.45
to
almost
eight
percent,
so
more
than
double
and
that's
on
a
lot
of
money.
So
you
know
keep
that
in
mind,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
people
out
there
who
are
now
being
forced
to
refinance
in
today's
market
and
that
is
causing
a
problem.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
address
you.
AV
Honorable
mayor
Anthony
vice
mayor,
Schultz,
council
members
and
talented
staff,
my
name
is
David
Donahue
I
am
a
homeowner
business
owner
in
this
great
City
of
Burbank
I.
Don't
know
where
I
want
to
put
this
comment
in
so
I'll
just
get
it
off
just
kind
of
rip.
The
Band-Aid
off
I
was
fined
at
30
000
feet
in
the
air.
AV
When
I
was
listening
to
this
initial
start
of
this
meeting
and
I
landed
just
about
an
hour
ago
and
I'm
here
and
I
hate
to
do
this,
Mary
Anthony
I
I
respect
the
way
you
conduct
the
council
here
in
Chambers.
I
respectfully
say
that
Burbank
as
a
city
is
not
your
theater,
it's
not
your
stage.
It's
not
a
place
for
you
to
practice
your
politics.
We
are
home,
we
are
where
our
businesses
are.
This
is
where
we
live.
This
is
where
we
love.
AV
This
is
where
we
Thrive
and
and
I
I
understand
you're
trying
to
make
a
sincere
I
guess
an
apology
is
possible,
but
please
be
mindful
of
that.
I
also
commend
council
member
Takahashi
and
Perez
for
their.
What
I
believe
are
very
heartfelt
comments
to
this
issue
and
I.
Do
hope
we
can
get
back
to
the
business
of
conducting
the
city
of
conducting
City
business.
AV
I
was
one
of
the
original
people
who
reached
out
to
the
very
I
think
dedicated
people
with
the
Burbank
tennis
Union,
who
are
sitting
right
over
my
left
hand,
shoulder
I,
believe
that
they
are
sincere
and
they
have
heartfelt
concerns,
which
is
the
reason
they're
reached
out
falling
after
the
direction
of
council
member
Mullins
to
and
then
also
the
through,
the
ad
hoc
Committee
of
Perez
and
Takahashi
to
meet
and
talk,
because
it's
my
opinion
that
we,
with
a
few
moments
and
I'm
just
talking
a
few
minutes
of
time
sitting
down
with
people
like
these
very
educated,
very
experienced,
gentlemen
who
have
spoken
prior
to
me.
AV
They
know
things
that
I
believe
that
would
really
help
give
an
insight
to
the
Burbank
tenant
unions
and
other
people.
We
have
not
been
afforded
that
opportunity
and
I
feel
that,
with
an
ordinance,
an
urgent
urgency
ordinance,
we
are
now
bypassing
the
will
of
the
people
of
this
great
City
by
forcing
it
through
without
any
further
deliberation,
because
you
know
how
much
time
I
have
to
debate
this
or
talk
about
it.
It's.
AW
AV
The
other
one
thing
that
somebody
asked
me
to
ask:
is
there
one
to
say
the
utility
rates
in
Burbank
just
went
up
about
how
much
eight
percent?
What
does
the
btu
want
to
limit
rents
at
two
percent
and
again,
the
very
well-meaning
people
behind
me
wanted
to
be
two
percent
as
a
Max
cap
on
rents
that
will
bankrupt
the
housing
providers
in
Burbank.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
your
service.
Thank.
AG
AG
Okay,
I
am
by
no
means
an
expert
in
this
and
I'm,
not
a
stakeholder
on
either
side.
I
live
with
my
parents
for
now.
That
being
said,.
AG
My
thinking
on
this
on
this
issue
has
been
evolving
in
real
time,
while
everyone
has
been
bringing
a
very
I
think
thoughtful
points,
but
I
want
to
begin
by
saying
I
actually
urge
you
guys
to
pass
the
urge
the
urgency
ordinance,
but
not
the
second
one,
to
act
as
a
Band-Aid
and
as
a
stop
Gap,
because.
AG
To
the
point
of
the
tenants
Union,
there
are
some
places
where
it
doesn't
go
far
enough
and
to
the
point
of
the
landlords
there
are
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
more
careful
when
defining
what
is
a
mom
and
pop
operation.
AG
That
could
you
know
it's
it's
not
perfect,
but
could
be
saved
by
I.
Don't
know
how
long
under
this
urgency,
ordinance
is
supposed
to
last,
but
for
that
period
of
time
that
could
be
the
matter
of
somebody
having
a
place
to
live
and
not
having
a
place
to
live.
There's
also,
obviously,
some
discussion
to
be
had
I
think
should
be
had
about
the
three
times
difference.
AG
If
there
is
no
means
assessment,
how
is
a
means
assessment
supposed
to
be
conducted
whose
job
is
that
the
city
government
not
have
to
watch
over
that
all
very
complicated
things
that
I
think
we're
not
ready
yet
to
put
something
permanent
in
place,
but
I,
don't
think
in
action
tonight
is
going
to
save
the
people
who
are
you
know
on
the
edge
of
their
seats
with
baited
breath
of
you
know,
what's
going
to
happen
to
my
situation,
so
those
those
are
my
thoughts.
AX
Distinguished
members
of
the
Burbank
City
Council
today,
I
stand
before
you
not
just
as
an
individual
but
as
a
voice
of
numerous
concerned.
Burbank
residents
United
in
the
face
of
repressing
issue
renovations
being
here
in
this
Council
chamber,
I,
acknowledge
the
significant
power
vested
in
this
Council
and
I
implore
you
to
take
a
Resolute
action
on
this
pressing
matter.
AX
AX
This
responsibility
is
immense
and
it
necessitates
our
approach
with
unwavering
courage
and
boundless
compassion.
Renovations
transcend
housing
policies.
They
represent
a
matter
of
Justice
equity
and
the
Very
Spirit
of
our
community.
Beyond
the
numbers
and
policy
documents,
they
are
real
lives,
real
families,
engineering
dreams
at
stake.
It
is
our
shared
duty
to
ensure
that
these
dreams
are
not
crushed
beneath
the
weight
of
short-term
Financial
interests.
AX
Let
us
be
the
architects
of
transformation,
reshaping
Burbank
into
a
beacon
of
housing
Justice.
Furthermore,
I
urge
you
to
Foster
dialogue
with
landlords,
appealing
to
their
sense
of
humanity
and
commitment
to
our
community.
We
are
all
interconnected
and
our
decisions
will
reverberate
through
the
future
of
our
city.
AX
It
is
also
vital
to
remember
that
those
residents
who
have
paid
their
rent
on
time
and
have
upheld
their
end
to
the
the
end
of
the
agreement
should
not
face
the
threat
of
eviction.
This
commitment
to
timely
payment
should
be
recognized
and
protected.
The
power
to
mold
the
destiny
of
Burbank
rest
within
the
walls
of
this
Council
chamber.
I
stand
here
today
with
the
hope
that
you
will
wield
this
power
judiciously
with
empathy
and
with
a
vision
for
Burbank,
where
every
resident
can
Thrive
and
find
security
within
their
homes.
Thank.
D
You
Max
that's
your
time
all
right,
that's
the
last
comment
card.
Does
staff
want
to
respond
to
any
of
the.
B
K
K
Ordinance
under
the
charter
requires
forefs
votes,
so
you
can
dropped
one
you
could
adopt
both
but
they're,
also
oftentimes
urgency,
ordinances
aren't
chaptered,
but
staff
wrote
These
in
parallel,
so
they're
chaptered
it
gets
codified.
Sometimes
an
urgency
ordinance
doesn't
get
codified,
but
there's
really
no
difference
in
this
case,
except
one
is
effective
tonight
if
you
adopt
it
and
the
other
one
takes
a
second
meeting
plus
31
days,
in
which
case
there
could
be
additional
renovation
evictions
that
wouldn't
fall
under
the
protections
of
this
new
ordinance.
Okay,
so
that's
us
to
the
urgency
ordinance.
K
Many
of
the
apartment
association
commenters
commented
about
how
the
relocation
assistance
seemed
over
Broad.
In
my
reading
of
1946.2,
the
relocation
assistance
is
addressed
in
subsection.
D1
D1
refers
to
all
no
fault
just
cause
evictions
in
subdivision
to
be
so,
while
I
don't
disagree
that
you
could
make
the
three
months:
relocation,
assistance,
more
narrow.
The
current
relocation
provision
in
the
law
replies
to
all
no
fault
just
cause
evictions,
which
is
owner,
moves
move-ins
going
out
of
business.
K
So
if
the
council
narrowed
the
proposed
three
months
to
just
substantial
Renovations,
the
law
still
applies
to
owner
move-ins,
any
other
no
fault
going
out
of
business,
complete
demolition,
so
our
Provisions
simply
extends
the
extended
relocation
to
all
the
categories
that
the
state
law
already
provides.
So
that
says
to
that
provision
and
then
just
for
your
reference,
our
enforcement
provision,
which
Ms
Leland
referenced
and
that
is,
failure
to
comply
with
this
ordinance
voids
the
notice
to
vacate
that's
also
already
in
the
existing
state
law,
and
so
we're
simply
carrying
that
over.
K
It's
the
same
enforcement
mechanism
and
we
don't
have
expanded
enforcement
Provisions
unless
SB
567
is
adopted,
and
while
we
were
in
the
meeting,
I
checked
the
current
Red
Line,
which
was
just
sent
back
to
the
Senate
yesterday
on
the
11th.
It
proposes
the
effective
date
to
be
April
2024.
So
if
you
don't
act
on
this
ordinance,
the
the
new
Provisions
under
567
wouldn't
be
effective
for
more
than
six
months.
D
Okay,
thank
you,
Ms
Leland
thank.
AI
You
thank
you.
The
City
attorney
did
respond
to
most
most
of
what
I
was
going
to
say.
I
did
want
to
add
one
area
related
to
the
comment
about
the
definition
of
substantial
Rehabilitation
or
renovation,
as
a
City
attorney
mentioned
that
the
or
proposed
ordinance
is
a
reference
ab1482
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
state
that
information.
AI
So
in
the
law
and
I'm
pulling
that
up
that
the
ab1482
does
actually
Define
substantial
renovation,
and
so
it's
it
means
the
replacement
of
or
modification
of
any
structural,
Electrical,
Plumbing
or
mechanical
system,
and
that
requires
a
government,
a
permit
from
a
governmental
entity
and
or
the
abatement
of
hazardous
materials,
including
lead-based
paint,
mold
asbestos
so
forth.
So
I
just
wanted
to
correct
that
or
include
this
information
that
it
is
by
reference
in
already
defined
in
ab1482,
wanted
to
clarify
that.
B
D
Based
on
the
presentation
or
the
things
that
we've
heard,
I
had
I
had
I
had
a
follow-up
question.
Just
real
quick
to
some
of
the
City
attorney
was
saying
so
so
we
copied
over
ab1482's
Provisions
for
what
would
be
covered
by
the
move
out.
Why
did
staff
include
owner
move
out
going
out
of
business
and
all
the
others?
D
K
D
K
That
was
what
the
apartment
Owners
Association
representatives
from
each
of
their
three
organizations
clarified,
is
that
you
could
limit
the
relocation
assistance,
the
the
extension
to
three
months
to
just
substantial
Renovations,
but
in
fact
the
state
law
applies,
the
one-month
requirement
to
all
no
fault
just
cause
evictions.
The.
K
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Mine
was
just
a
follow-up.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
staff
directly
yeah
go
ahead,
councilman.
F
In
the
I
know
it's
in
a
staff
report,
but
if
staff
can
just
quickly
go
over
the
funds
that
have
been
allocated
for
Hala
to
spend
how
many
we
have
applications
we've
approved
so
far,
and
how
many
is
in
the
process
and
how
much
money
have
we
paid
out
so
far.
AI
AI
As
of
the
writing
of
the
report,
I
did
ask
for
updated
figures
and
to
date
there
are
10
applications
approved
with
72
130
in
financial
assistance
paid
out,
there's
still
an
additional
12
applications
in
process,
and
there
could
be
even
even
more
maybe
if
something
came
in
over
the
weekend
since
Friday
when
I
got
these
updated
figures,
so
that
is
currently
what
we
have.
We
have
10
approved.
One
application
had
been
denied
a
12
in
process,
so
there's
that
that's
what
we
have
for
so
far
for
the
City
rental
relocation
program.
Just.
F
AD
Pending
so
I'll
speak
from
housing
provision.
So
when
you're
doing
something
like
this,
this
type
of
assistance,
you
have
to
wait
for
the
tenant
to
talk
to
their
new
landlord
and
work
that
out
and
you
have
to
get
the
contracts
W-2s.
So
those
applications,
essentially
they
qualify,
they're
approved
but
they're
waiting
for
all
of
that
information
before
they
determine
how
much
assistance,
because
it's
based
on
the
deposit
they
have
to
pay
right.
AD
So
how
much
assistance
and
how
much
and
then
how
they're
going
to
process
the
check
right
and
just
as
an
added
point
of
information,
the
average
is
about
six
thousand
dollars
for
per
tenant.
F
F
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
Outreach
community
outreach
and
if
we
do
adopt
the
urgency
ordinance
tonight,
which
would
be
effective
tomorrow
morning,
How
would
the
staff-
and
how
do
we
get
the
word
out
by
tomorrow
morning
to
community
members
that
this
is
actually
in
effect
in
those
individuals
who
are
in
the
middle
of
either
doing
remodel
or
individuals
who
may
be
benefiting
from
a
payout?
How
would
that
well.
K
First,
fortunately,
we
have
many
esteemed
representatives
of
the
real
estate
rental
market
in
the
audience
tonight,
so
we
could
use
them
as
ambassadors
to
get.
F
Them
I
don't
know
that
I
I.
Sorry,
with
all
due
respect,
respect
everyone
I
think
I
want
to
trust
our
staff
before
I
before
I,
give
it
to
somebody
else.
But
this
is
important
because,
as
of
tomorrow
morning,
somebody
can
be
in
the
middle
of
either
going
through
renovation
or
move
in
in.
The
word
is
not
going
to
be
out
on
the
street
at
eight
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
so
I'm
concerned
about
the
timing.
And
how
do
we
address
that
to
make
sure
we're
not
putting
somebody
in
a
bind.
AI
Thank
you
again
for
the
question.
I'll
start
and
I
believe
Mr.
City
attorney
may
add
to
this
answer.
First
and
foremost,
in
talking
with
our
public
information
office,
we
have
discussed
a
press
release
when
a
few
years
ago,
when
we
were
doing
the
eviction
moratoriums
in
the
community,
those
were
critical
to
get
the
press
releases
out
the
first
thing
the
next
morning,
so
that
the
information
was
out
to
the
community.
AI
That
is
one
of
the
first
things
and
I
know,
there's
a
draft
already
available
and
ready
for
the
review
and
depending
on
the
outcome
of
this
evening.
So
that
would
be
the
first
thing
and
then
also
we've
already
drafted
and
and
put
together
the
web
page,
which
would
be
addressed
in
the
press
release
to
go
live.
AI
Should
that
be
the
case
so
and
then,
furthermore,
there
was
already
a
landlord
attending
commission
meeting
last
night,
where
I
announced
that
this
meeting
is
happening,
and
we
will
continue
to
do
the
announcements
at
all
avenues,
whether
it's
commission
meetings,
City
Council
meetings,
I
mentioned
the
upcoming
Workshop
up
with
Neighborhood
Legal
Services
October
I'm,
getting
my
dates
mixed
up.
It
would
be
the
fourth
Wednesday,
the
4th.
AI
We
are
planning
that
Workshop
we
had
the
representative
last
night,
he
and
I
talked
afterward
and
we
would
coordinate
the
information
if
so
adopted,
so
that
we
can
keep
getting
the
word
out.
So
to
answer
the
question
immediately,
my
sense
would
be
the
press
release
and-
and
we
would
go
and
continue
with
that
continuous
Outreach.
F
Thank
you
a
couple
more
questions.
F
AI
In
terms
of
enforcement,
as
is
mentioned
in
the
staff
report,
and
also
in
the
presentation,
the
enforcement
is
is
really
if
this
urgency
ordinance
is
adopted
is
is,
is
for
a
tenant
to
utilize
the
ordinance
as
a
if
it's
violated
as
a
legal
defense
in
court,
it
should
a
unlawful
detainer
be
be
issued.
So
what
I
want
to
say
is
that
this
ordinance
isn't
meant
to
change
the
regular
normal
permitting
process,
so
the
regular
permitting
process
for
obtaining
permits
for
work
following
up
with
plancheck,
if
it's
required
following
work
on
the
building,
permit.
AI
My
understanding
and
speaking
to
the
building
division
is
that
it
is
available
and
open
for
for
12
months
as
long
as
they're
continuing
to
do
work,
it's
a
valid
valid
permit.
So
so,
if
a
tenant
should
this
be
adopted,
believes
that
there
is
no
work
being
done.
That
would
really
be
utilizing
the
ordinance
as
a
legal
defense
in
court
and
see
if
the
attorney's
office
or
the
City
attorney
would
like
to
add
anything
to
that
in
terms
of
the
enforcement.
But
really
it
goes
back
to
utilize.
The
tenant
utilizing
this
in
court
yeah.
K
The
the
purpose
of
the
law
is
not
to
make
sure
the
landlords
complete
the
work.
The
purpose
of
the
law
is
to
make
sure
that
the
work
that
a
permit
is
being
done.
It
increases
the
threshold
to
evict
a
tenant
without
cause,
and
so
it
actually
places
right
now.
The
current
law
is
written
requires
simple
intent
and
someone
can
have
intent
and
then
later
they
can
change
their
mind
for
any
number
of
valid
reasons.
But
intent
is
a
very
low
bar.
K
F
Thank
you.
My
other
question
also
deals
with
polling
permits.
F
So
if
someone
the
house
provider,
pulls
a
permit
and
gives
a
notice
to
the
tenant,
assuming
the
tenants
refuse
to
move
out
and
they
are
staying
there
in
the
unit,
it
can
go
up
to
24
months,
I
mean
sometimes
these
situations
happen
and
the
the
house
provider
pulled
the
permit
and
they
still
may
be
in
court
trying
to
get
the
tenant
to
move
out.
F
The
question
is:
how
long
would
the
permit
be
good
for,
because
I
know
that
there
is
a
limitation
to
how
long
the
permit
can
be
actually
in
effect,
and
would
the
city
extend
the
permit,
based
on
the
circumstance
of
what's
happening
to
the
house
provider
that
they
can't
get
the
tenant
down?
Therefore,
they
cannot
get
the
work
done
and
if
they
do
extend
it,
will
we
charge
them
another
fee
for
the
permit.
The
for
the
renewal
of
the
apartment.
AI
I
think
we're
going
to
be
playing
a
tag
team
here
with
a
City
attorney,
so
I'm
happy
to
start
the.
If,
if
a
permit
is
issued,
I'm
just
going
to
use
the
scenario
if
a
permit
is
issued,
then
that
permit
is
in
place
for
12
months
and
there
has
to
be
some
work.
That
is
done
with
that
permitted
hand
for
what
it's
covered
and
as
soon
as
there's
some
work
done.
The
clock
starts
again
is
my
understanding
and
then
there's
another
12
months.
So
there
was
something
related
to
one
part
of
the
scope.
AI
As
long
as
there
is
work,
meet
progress
being
made,
we've
seen
developments
throughout
the
community
as
long
as
there's
permits
progress
being
made,
then
that
clock
continues
and
then
that
permit
is
in
place.
So,
yes,
the
building
official
is
authorized
to
Grant
extensions
and
they
and
they
can
do
that
there
there
would
be
a
fee
as
a
City
attorney
mentioned
so
for
a
property
owner,
though
to
go
to
through
the
process
of
permits
paying
for
the
permits
doing.
All
of
that
it
would
be
during
their
normal.
AI
It's
their
normal
course
of
doing
the
work
that
that
they
would
require,
so
it's
just
something
they
would
do.
I
do
want
to
mention
if,
if
the
part
of
the
question
of
the
tenant
doesn't
move,
the
landlord
could
also
then,
at
that
point
file
an
unlawful
detainer
and
then
both
the
landlord
and
the
Tenant
would
be
in
front
of
a
judge
to
show
the
ordinance
and
what
has
been
made,
and
it
would
be
up
to
the
judge
to
then
see.
Okay,
where
are
you
landlord
in
term
of
your
progress
or
or
tenant?
F
Yeah
and
I'm
aware
of
the
the
rights
that
they
can
go
to
court
on
either
side.
I'm
just
also
concerned
about
timing
with
the
city
and
issuing
a
permit
and
how
long
it's
good
for
and
would
they
have
to
incur
additional
costs
because
there's
a
dispute
and
they
perhaps
go
into
court
because
the
tenant,
maybe
perhaps
is
not
moving
out
so
I
think
it's
a
decision.
The
city
has
to
take
a
look
at
this
and
see.
AI
AD
AD
AI
Yes,
staff
has
been
reviewing
tenant
protection
ordinances
since
the
direction
in
January
actually,
and
so
we
do
have
a
chart
of
over
10
ordinances
that
we
looked
at.
We've
also
taken
note
of
the
of
the
Cities
at
the
virus,
mayor
noted
in
during
the
August
meeting.
AI
So
as
I
mentioned
during
the
presentation,
we
don't
have
that
complete
information,
yet
for
this
portion
of
it
and
the
two
specifically
that
we
that
the
this
ordinance
is
modeled
after
is
Claremont
and
the
city
of
Alhambra,
and
that's
what
these
two
ordinances
were
modeled
after
for
the
substantial
Rehabilitation
renovation
and
then
also
for
the
three
months.
Relocation.
AD
K
Buildings
so
I'd
like
to
take
a
first
cut,
and
that
is
that
it
would
be
very
difficult
for
staff
to
track
ownership
of
properties
because
many
times
properties
are
held
in
limited
liability
entities,
limited
liability
companies
and
it's
not
unusual-
there's
nothing
nefarious
about
it,
but
but
families
are
counseled
by
their
estate
planners
to
separate
their
assets
so
that
if
a
property
goes
bankrupt,
that
it
doesn't
tank
the
entire
family
farm
right.
K
So
there
may
be
some
properties
that
look
like
they're
owned
by
Jane
and
John
Doe,
and
it
might
just
be
the
address
of
the
property.
You
know
LLC
or
LLP,
and
but
there
could
be
a
a
corporation
that
has
an
LLC
for
12
different
properties
and
the
amount
of
work
to
go
in
and
track.
That
would
be
very
difficult.
Now
we
can
probably
generalize
that
our
company,
that
our
housing
providers,
that
own
three
and
four
unit
properties
are
not
the
same
ones
that
own
you
know
250
unit
buildings.
K
They
mean
they
operate
at
a
different
level.
So
our
purpose
here
was
to
kind
of
give
property
thresholds,
but
not
try
to
get
at
the
question
of
aggregation
because
even
well-meaning
it.
It
would
be
difficult
to
get
at
that
information
and
it
could
easily
be
hidden
or
there
could
be
two
brothers.
AD
F
There
was
a
a
comment
earlier
and
I:
it
was
made
I
Believe
by
Mr
Giroux
in
regards
to
vouchers
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we
addressed
that
question
with
where
he
indicated.
Perhaps
a
subsidy
of
vouchers
can
be
paid
to
the
tenants.
AI
AI
So
a
voucher
program
is
very
expensive
and
those
funds
come
from
the
federal
government.
So
so
all
that
to
say,
I'm,
not
sure
or
clear,
from
the
comment
where
the
funding
for
that
would
come
from.
It's
a
it's
very
expensive
and
we're
currently
right
now
going
through
the
fair
market
rents
that
were
published
by
Hud
just
just
this
month,
because
they
could
become
October,
effective,
October,
1st
and
our
subsidy
levels
are
going
to
be
increasing
for
for
residents,
which
is
good
news
because
it
is
very
expensive
in
Burbank.
K
F
Thank
you,
I
think
it's
my
last
question
for
now.
I
know
the
couple
of
the
speakers.
Maybe
three
of
the
speakers.
We
talked
about
the
formation
of
the
committee
and
asking
to
have
everyone
sitting
at
the
table
and
having
a
discussion
to
come
up
with
a
plan
that
would
be
proposed
to
council.
I
heard
that
from
the
tenants
Union
I
heard
it
from
Aguila
and
and
from
the
Burbank
Realtors
has
staff
put
together
any
plan
to
have
the.
K
Meeting
no
well
so
I
I,
there
were
three
items
of
Direction.
My
understanding
was
two
were
for
staff,
and
one
was
counsel
for
counsel,
so
staff
took
the
direction
to
bring
back
this
ordinance
on
these
two
items
and
we
dropped
the
mom
and
pop
issue
in
there,
because
if
we
were
going
to
require
an
obligation
of
of
the
housing
providers,
this
would
be
the
opportunity
to
put
in
a
mom
and
pop
exception
if
you
wanted
one.
So
that
was
just
kind
of
a
logical
thing.
K
The
second
direction
we
had
was
to
bring
back
a
fully
developed
second
step
meeting
the
requirements
of
council's
motion
on
January
31st.
That
was
not
every
city
in
the
state
but
specific
to
about
a
half
dozen
cities
that
Council
enumerated
between
a
couple
of
you.
The
third
item
was
for
Council
to
convene
a
Community
type
meeting
with
housing
providers
and
tenants
and
I
I.
Don't
know
how
much
structure
there
was
to
that,
but
some
of
that
might
have
been
left
up
in
the
air
I.
AD
Can
answer
that
so
we
are
and
I
know
we
have
an
email
sitting
there
we're
trying
to
schedule
a
date
to
meet
with
staff
and
do
our
due
diligence,
because
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
this
is
a
committee
that
staff
will
still
have
to
post,
we'll
still
have
to
attend,
we'll
still
have
to
round
around
right.
AD
So
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
something:
that's
feasible
for
them
and
feasible
for
us,
and
my
understanding
was
really
that
the
focus
of
that
was
to
handle
part
two,
which
is
the
potential
run
stabilization
tenant
protections.
All
of
those
issues
that
are
much
larger
and
I
would
love
to
continue
hearing
from
both
landlords
and
tenants
on.
This
is
an
urgency
ordinance
focusing
on
on.
You
know
this
piece
which
we
all
voted
5-0
to
talk
about,
because
because
it's
very
different,
this
is
this
is
one
subset
versus
that
is.
F
Thank
you,
I
think.
My.
F
My
question
relates
to
what
I
heard
tonight
and
I
believe
it's
because
of
the
proposal
before
us
to
have
the
three
months:
rent
stabilization,
where,
when
we
made,
if
I
recall
correctly
and
and
when
we
decided
to
have
staff,
come
back
with
an
urgency
ordinance
to
fill
in
the
loophole
or
that
it
currently
exists
in
SB
567,
and
it
does
not
exist
in
1482,
which
is
a
eviction
that
we
need
to
have
something
on
the
books
that
would
address
having
to
take
a
permit
and
I
honestly
was
not
anticipating
that
we're
going
to
get
the
three-month
subsidy
included
in
this
ordinance
to
pass
tonight.
F
What
I
understood
is
that
for
you
guys
for
Council
and
the
com,
the
committee,
whoever
is
going
to
be
put
together
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
what
is,
after
we
secure
the
permit
process
and
complete
whatever
the
loophole
was
missing
in
1482.
That
we
would
then
discuss
the
subsidy,
because
we
do
have
the
city
funding
that
we
set
aside
for
assisting
the
tenants
who
are
in
need
before
they
get.
You
know
being
giving
the
notice
at
least
they
can
turn
into
Hala
and
apply
for
assistance.
Okay,.
AD
Yeah
I
see
where
your
confusion
is
okay,
so
basically
like
ab1482
right
when
it
talks
about
and
why
staff
put
this
together
right
is
because
and
I
understand
why
they
went
that
direction
when
you're
talking
about
evictions
that
are
these
Renovations
or
these,
you
know
intent
to
remodel.
That
was
coupled
with
staff
saying
with
folks
saying
close
the
loophole
right
so
to
close
a
loophole.
AD
You
would
need,
of
course,
the
permit
process
that
we
talked
about,
but
also
to
ensure
that
folks,
the
whole
point
of
closing
it
is
that
folks
are
not
ending
up
on
the
street
with
nothing
right.
So
that's
why
that's
coupled
there
I
was
also
confused
when
you
were
about
whether
or
not
and
I
think
the
mayor
was
as
well
about
whether
or
not
this
applied
to
all
just
cause
evictions.
AD
So
I
understand
why
that
discrepancy
happened
right,
but
but
these
two
essentially,
if
we
want
to
close
the
loophole
and
I,
think
we
can
all
agree
like
it's
going
to
involve
both
having
having
the
the
permit
process
discussion
a
coupled,
obviously
with
having
the
relocation
assistance,
because
otherwise
you're
not
closing
anything.
F
Well,
it
wasn't
more
confusion
on
my
part.
It's
more
of
what
made
sense
at
the
time
that
we're
closing
the
loophole
as
far
as
allowing
the
landlords
to
go
through
a
process
where
they
take
a
permit
and
then
making
sure
that
that
what
I
heard
earlier
back
in
January
from
the
tenants
that
did
come
into
the
council
meeting
and
they
said
we're
being
thrown
out
on
the
street
they're,
not
taking
a
permit
they're
just
having
a
slap
of
paint
on
the
wall.
F
And
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if
a
landlord
is
going
to
give
a
notice
to
a
tenant
that
they
are
doing
a
work,
that
they
have
a
permit,
that
they're
doing
substantial
remodel
to
ensure
that
no
one's
just
getting
the
tenant
out
to
put
a
slap
of
paint
on
the
wall.
So
that
is
definitely
what
we
needed
to
do
and
we
needed
to
act
fast
on.
F
But
the
funding
that
we
have
currently
that
we
allocated
that
500
000
was
the
assistance
for
the
tenants
in
order
for
them
to
go
and
obtain
or
get
another
apartment
somewhere
else
in
the
event
that
they
get
a
notice
to
move
out.
So
I
was
hoping
I
with
the
the
discussion
that
we
were
going
to
have
with
the
committee
or
the
group
of
different
organizations
that
we
can
come
up
with
a
solution
to
how
do
we
address
the
funding,
because
our
funding
is
going
to
be
limited
time?
It's
not
forever.
F
It's
not
going
to
be
ongoing.
We
all
agreed
that
this
is
temporary,
but
I.
Think
it's
important
to
have
everyone
at
the
table.
Talk
about
what
type
of
funding
how
how
much
do
we
pay
I
mean
I
I
heard
you
know
just
from
everyone
tonight,
plus
our
meetings
and
the
E
and
the
emails
we
received.
There
seemed
to
be
not
happy
solution
from
any
of
the
organizations.
There's
something
missing
in
there.
So
I
was
hoping
that,
hopefully,
everyone
sits
at
the
table.
Talk
about.
Is
it
three
months
of
current
rent?
F
Is
it
two
months
of
market
value,
and
this
is
where
we
come
in
and
make
an
egg?
You
know
just
have
a
discussion
and
then
vote
on
it,
so
that
was
just
to
clarify
the
intent
of
having
that
committee
put
together
plus
anything
else.
That's
in
the
future
that
Council
had
discussed
in
the
meeting
back
in
January.
AD
Thank
you
and
I
say
computer
confusion.
The
other
way,
but
the
other
piece
with
that
is,
is
definitely
no
matter.
What
we
do
I
want
to
be
clear
like
if
we're
doing
a
just
cause
ordinance,
it
has
to
involve
both
the
the
permit
process
to
clarify
that
and
the
funding
piece,
because
otherwise
that
just
doesn't
work
like
by
itself.
So
you
have
to
discuss
both
essentially
at
the
same
time
or
else
it
doesn't
really
make
a
lot
of
sense,
they're,
also
playing
a
lot
of
piecemeal
yeah.
J
M
Have
a
follow-up
question
about
that,
so
under
the
new
ordinance
would
the
once
the
permit
is
pulled,
and
it's
established
that
that
is
a
significant
renovation
and
the
notice
is
given
to
the
tenant?
Is
it
the
same
60-day
window
as
it
is
now
that
would
that
be
the
length
of
time
that
they
would
have
to
re
to
to
relocate
or
to
move
out,
as
it
is
now.
M
So
it's
still
the
same
amount
of
time,
right,
yeah
and
so
I.
Think
that's
why
I
wanted
to
ask
that,
because
it's
still
it's
a
short
amount
of
time
to
have
to
get
all
your
ducks
in
a
row
to
find
a
new
place,
and
so
that
that
to
your
point,
is
that
the
assistance
is
partly
because
of
the
difference,
different
potential
difference
between
what
they're
paying
now
and
what
they're
going
to
pay,
but
also
because
of
the
very
short
notice
in
order
to
move.
So
that's
that
I
think
that's
important
to
recognize.
But
if.
D
I
could
say
one
thing:
I
actually
I
agree
with
you
customer
Mullins.
It
seems
that's.
M
D
D
D
Think
that
was
supposed
to
bridge
us
to
a
point
when
we
could
talk
about
the
relocation
assistance
and
so
for
for
staff
to
bring
it
back
now,
although
it
seems
separate,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
not
to
not
have
to
rely
on
the
half
million
dollars
anymore
to
to
do
away
with
that
program,
as
was
was
laid
out,
you
know,
September
12th
is
the
cutoff,
and
so
that
way
we're
sort
of
we're
replacing
that
program
with
this
and
then
that
way,
we're
not
sort
of
chasing
our
Tails.
D
B
M
So
so
far,
we've
discussed
two
potential
ways
to
bridge
that
gap,
which
is
one
is
three
months
of
current
rent
or
the
one
month
which
is
which,
where
it's
at
now
have
any
cities
done
a
flat
amount
so
that
every
tenant
who
moves
is
the
same
amount
based
on
whatever,
and
so
that
student,
your
typical
amount
to
move,
and
then
that
way,
when
the
landlords
are
doing
this
renovation,
they
know
exactly
how
much
that
they're
going
to
be
required
to
to
pay
rather
than
a
variable
rate,
based
on
what
they're
paying.
AI
So,
to
clarify
the
relocation
amount.
Do
some
cities
do
a
flat
amount?
The
the
information
in
in
the
research
that
we've
done
so
far
is
they
do
vary
some
some
ordinances
just
cause
eviction
ordinances
for
relocation,
specifically
for
for
this
they'll,
do
it
on
income
they'll.
Do
it
three
months
current
rent,
it
really
does
vary,
there's
even
an
exception
for
the
smaller
landlords
to
pay
less
than
relocation.
So
so
they
do
vary.
AI
K
M
That
I
I
see
your
point
at
the
same
time.
One
of
the
concerns
is
that
what
you're
going
to
be
facing
is
a
different
situation
amount
of
payout,
depending
on
whether
they're
at
market
rate
or
whether
they've
been
paying
a
lower
amount
right.
There's
a
concern
about
having
to
pay
a
lot
more
if
it's
a
market
rate
tenant.
But
if
there's
a
flat
rate-
and
you
mentioned
it-
was
six
thousand
dollars
on
average
that
people
were
being
given
to
to
through
the
hollow.
AD
M
B
D
That
brings
up
an
interesting
question
for
me:
Ms,
Linda
or
actually
staff.
Can
you
pull
up
the
slide
number?
Nine,
because
we
talk
about
the
hollow
program.
K
And
and
just
to
add
a
note,
income
verification
is
oftentimes
one
of
the
most
burdensome
phases
of
the
process.
Maribel.
We
won't
ask
her
to
do
this
because
it
would
be
painful,
but
the
process
they
go
through
to
certify
people's
income
is
some
times
the
most
complicated
confusing
process
and
subject
to
a
lot
of
manipulation.
D
On
slide
nine,
we
talk
about
the
interim
rental
relocation
program
that
we
currently
have
and
one
two
three,
the
fourth
one
down
says
two
times
the
median
rent
for
moderate
income
households.
Does
that
mean
the
median
rent
for
moderate
income,
households
or
modern
income?
Households
receive
two
times
the
medium
rent.
AI
The
latter
modern
income
households
will
receive
the
two
times
the
current
median
rent.
So
in
this
current
proposal
in
this
current
program,
home
again,
La
does
have
to
research
the
current
median
rent
in
Burbank
and
they
have
that
established
and
if
somebody
is
a
moderate
income
household
based
on
their
documentation
and
the
eligibility
review,
as
the
City
attorney
was
mentioning,
then
they
get
two
times
the
current
Media
city
median
rents
and
then
the
extremely
low,
very
low
and
low
get
three
times
so.
D
AI
It's
very
it's
essentially
the
same.
It's
very
similar,
so
they've
got
to
look
at
current
median
rents.
Do
that
research?
What
is
the
current
median
rent
in
Burbank
as
of
September
2023,
and
then
they
have
to
review,
receive
first
of
all
receive
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
process
to
get
in
income
income.
Information
is
in
receive
the
information
review
and
determine
income
eligibility.
So.
D
D
AI
AI
At
a
point
in
time,
it
changes
for
every
application,
so
they
have
to
confirm
if
it's
still
the
current
median
rent,
so
it
is,
it
is
very
administrative
and
intensive
is.
D
D
I'm
saying
if
we
were
to
just
do
so,
here's
the
thing
can
you
show
me
the
next
slide
page
10.
D
D
It
does
it's
a
you
know,
it's
a
big
ask
when
you
do
the
original
research,
but
once
it's
set
you're
set
for,
however
long
and
you
don't
have
to
redo
it
and
redo
it
like
Hall,
is
doing,
I
would
recommend
they
changed
their
model,
save
them
some
time,
but
that's
on
their
own.
There.
K
The
state
law
does
right,
the
city
doesn't
yeah,
so
there's
a
whole
group
of
people
who
make
more
than
medium,
but
nevertheless
still
have
a
housing,
affordability,
problem,
yeah
and-
and
so
that's
why
you
have
these
different
brackets.
We
couldn't
fund
everybody,
no.
D
No
I
know
I,
know
yeah.
So
for
me,
I
think
if
we
were
to
change
the
three
months
of
tenants
rent
to
three
months
of
the
median
rent,
we
could
create
a
a
system
where
we
set
that
median
rent
at
a
point
in
time,
and
we
don't
have
to
redo
it
all
the
time
we
could
say
the
median
rent
for
a
given
year
or
a
given
quarter.
D
That
would
I
think
satisfy
the
inequality
of
someone
who
has
a
small
media
tenant,
rent
versus
someone
who
has
a
big
tenant,
rent
and
I
think
it
would
average
it
out
and
and
equalize
it
by
doing
median
rent,
but
not
the
way
holla.
Does
it
with
every
new
application.
We
just
find
a
point
in
time.
We
set
it
and
it
lasts
a
year
and
that's
the
median
rent
for
the
year
or
so.
F
Well,
but
also
holla
determines
beside
the
medium
rent.
They
also
look
at
your
income
where
the
proposal
here,
no
matter
how
much
money
you
make.
If
you
make
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
you're
gonna
get
three
months
of
your
current
rent
that
you're
paying
so
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
have
been
turned
down
because
of
their
income.
B
F
They
weren't
able
to
receive
any
assistance,
so
I
think
they
go
hand
in
hand,
because
that's
how
the
structure
was
from
what
we
directed
holla
based
on
our
housing
I,
think
you
use
the
model
of
Hud
of
what
we
do
when
you
determine
with
Section
Eight,
correct.
K
There's
potential
for
this
to
be
regressive,
so
all
your
smaller
Mom
and
Pops
Who
currently
collect
less,
like
they've,
had
tenants
for
25
years,
and
they
have
tenants
with
two
bedroom
units
that
pay
sixteen
hundred
dollars,
maybe
twelve
hundred
dollars.
In
fact,
some
of
our
people
paid
even
less
and
they're
going
to
have
to
pay
three
months
at
at
the
median
rent
versus
buildings
that
are
above
Market
only
have
to
pay
median
rent.
M
M
If,
if
we
have,
if
I
see
your
point,
but
if
we
have
at
the
current
rate
of
rent,
there
still
might
be
a
gap
between
what
the
tenant
is
receiving
and
what
they
need
to
pay
to
get
into
a
new
apartment
and
that
still
Gap,
that
would
be
what
do
we?
What
do
we
do
with
that
Gap
and
that's
what
the
Gap
we're
trying
to
fill
with
the
hollow
program?
M
And
so,
if
we
take
away
the
hollow
program
and
we
have
the
the
landlord
pay,
the
current
amount
of
rate
for
rent
there's
still
going
to
be
a
gap
that
the
tenant
may
not
be
able
to
find
housing.
So
there's
some
way
shape
reform.
In
my
opinion,
there
needs
to
be
some
way
for
those
tenants
who
are
lower
income
to
be
able
to
recover
those
costs
in
between
to
be
able
to
find
a
new
place.
D
AI
Yes,
mayor
that
there
are
different
scenarios,
so
some
ordinances,
if
it's
a
if
it's
a
a
property
with
Mom
and
Pop
less
you
know,
number
of
units
they
pay
less
or
don't
pay
the
relocation
at
all
and
then
there's
other
scenarios
where
income
eligible
households,
in
addition
to
the
current
rent,
then
have
an
additional
amount
that
could
be
utilized
or
added.
On
top
of.
D
F
Well,
the
the
City
attorney
or
staff
they
have
language
in
here
for
exemption
that
I
think
Council.
We
can
seriously
take
a
look
at
what
we
do
at
the
exemption
with
either
exempt
the
mom
and
pop
with
10
units
or
less
per
a
lot,
because
again
there
it
varies.
If
somebody
has
two
different
Lots
or
Parcels,
we
can
definitely
have
a
discussion
to
use
the
language.
F
That's
on
page
five
in
the
staff
report,
one
of
the
reports
I
think
it's
the
urgency
ordinance
and
an
exempt
the
mom
and
pop,
because
those
are
the
ones
that
will
be
definitely
having
a
much
more
difficulties
paying
out
for
the
relocation
subsidies.
K
K
K
You
have
the
ability
to
actually
take
two
actions
and
your
second
action
on
the
introduced
ordinance
will
then
correct
or
refine
whatever
payment
standard
you
want.
So,
procedurally,
you
can
do
two
things
and
the
adoption
ordinance
it
doesn't
have
to
be
just
a
week
later.
It
could
be
several
weeks
later.
It
just
delays
the
effective
date,
but
that
essentially
refines
your
standard.
You
don't
create
an
inconsistency
that
way.
B
M
That's
a
really
good
point
and
I
was
going
to
ask
too
about
how
long
would
it
take?
Let's
say
tomorrow,
a
landlord
files
for
a
permit
to
do
a
major,
significant
renovation?
M
How
long
would
it
take
for
them
to
get
that
permit
and
then
serve
the
notice,
because,
if
that's
you
know
a
few
months
out,
then
that
that
means
that
the
second
portion
with
the
with
the
relocation
fees
wouldn't
even
take
effect
until
at
least
several
months
after
we
apply
this
ordinance,
the
first,
the
first
roll
out
of
that
of
that
wouldn't
even
happen
until
the
first
permits
get
get
fully
applied
for
and
given.
So
that
also
means
that
we
have
some
time
to
adjust
this
before
those
that
part
of
it
would
be
applied.
D
Yeah
yeah,
you
had
a
question
yeah.
I
Just
one
procedural
question:
to
back
up
there,
Mr
City
attorney,
one
of
our
commenters,
had
asked
or
had
suggested
that
another
option
would
just
be
to
pass
an
emergency
ordinance
and
I
guess
put
a
pause
on
a
regular
ordinance.
It
sounds
like
what
you're
proposing
is
sort
of
a
different
way
of
tackling
it,
except
it
keeps
keeps
that
process
moving
forward.
Can
you
speak
to
the
merits
of
you
know
one
option
versus
the
other.
K
So,
to
the
extent
you
have
a
question
about
what
the
actual
payment
standard
should
be
adopting
the
urgency
ordinance
changes
the
rules
tonight
so
that
tomorrow
and
and
I
understand,
council
member
mullen's
concern
over
Outreach.
However,
with
any
law
there
needs
to
be
an
effective
date
and,
as
we've
seen
with,
for
instance,
our
last
nine
months
with
elections,
there's
still
people
showing
up
saying
they
didn't
they've.
Never
this
is
brand
new
to
them
and
we've
got
purple
signs
all
over
town.
K
If
all
you
do
is
the
urgency,
ordinance
and
you're
happy
with
it
that'll
be
the
ordinance,
in
effect,
depending
upon
how
complicated
the
step
two
gets,
with
the
number
of
options
available
and
council's
direction
to
pick
options,
but
also
the
community
outreach
and
kind
of
the
the
mediation
or
collaboration
between
the
housing
providers
and
the
tenants
that
process
could
take
some
time
so
the
Merit
to
adopting
an
urgency
ordinance
which
changes
the
rules
tonight
and
potentially
stops.
K
Unsubstantiated
substantial
Renovations
because
there's
no
permits,
we
don't
actually
know
what
the
work
is
and
and
if
you're,
not
all
on
the
same
page
on
the
payment
standard,
the
introducing
the
regular
ordinance
and
fixing
it
up
on
on
cleanup
with
adoption.
It
keeps
this.
It
gives
you
the
ability
to
True
up
the
process
without
bogging
it
down.
In
that
whole
second
step
with
the
collaborative
meeting
like
you're
kind
of
keeping
these
two
together.
K
Normally,
we
would
bring
the
adoption
ordinance
at
your
immediate
next
meeting,
which
would
be
the
26th,
but
depending
upon
the
direction
you
give
us,
we
could
take
till
the
3rd
of
October
to
make
sure
that
we
bring
the
right
information
and
hopefully
all
of
it's
there,
so
that
you
could
make
one
or
two
decisions
adopt
the
ordinance
and
it's
done
and
you've
at
least
maybe
satisfied
for
a
trial
period
with
the
stopping
substantial
Renovations
without
permits
and
requiring
a
three-month
payment
standard.
K
K
P
F
I
think
so,
thank
you
for
that
explanation.
It's
it's
a
little
complicated,
but
I
I
see
what
you're
trying
to
get
us
to
to
get
to
so
I.
Think
one
of
the
questions
I
want
to
ask
my
colleagues
I,
really
back
in
January
when
again
I
keep
on
going
back
to
that
time.
I
never
really
heard
from
the
tenants
that
they
were
having
issues
of
being
evicted
because
the
landlords
were
moving
into
their
own
units.
F
So
I
would
like
to
see
I
know
that
staff
took
you,
know
no
fault,
evictions
and
kind
of
combined
everything
together,
but
tonight
I'm
hearing
is
it
necessary
to
combine
the
renovation
and
the
you
know
the
the
landlord
they
own,
the
property
and
they
have
the
right
to
their
property?
Do
we
need
to
separate
those
two
from
from
each
other
and
focus
only
on
the
eviction
for
renovation,
because
that
seemed
to
be
what
the
problem
that
has
been
occurring
in
the
past
and
continue
to
occur?
F
So
I
want
to
throw
this
out
there
for
discussion
and
counsel
to
maybe
perhaps
we
can
alter
the
language
of
the
City
attorney
says
it's
okay,
including
also
the
exemption
for
the
mom
and
pop
with
the
10
minutes
or
less
I
want
to
throw
that
out
there
to
see
what
kind
of
directions
we
want
to
give
the
City
attorney.
D
I'll
I'll,
so
the
first
thing
about
the
I'll
say
this
about
the
different
ver
different
types
of
eviction.
You
know:
I
worked
as
a
property
manager
for
a
number
of
years.
If
there
was
if
there
was
one
type
of
eviction
that
was
much
cheaper
than
the
other
type
of
eviction,
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
of
those
evictions.
D
Second,
to
that,
when
a
tenant
is
being
evicted
and
they're
trying
to
move
to
a
new
location,
the
the
new
landlord
is
not
going
to
lower
their
rent
or
the
security
deposit
based
on
the
reason
they
got
evicted.
So
if
someone
is
being
evicted,
it
shouldn't
matter
the
reason,
because
they're
still
in
the
process
of
finding.
AR
D
New
place
to
live,
and
so
I
I,
don't
think
that
would
be
Equitable
to
to
to
have
different
payments
I'm
more
than
comfortable
having
different
payments
based
on
the
size
of
the
unit.
If
we
want
to
do
Mom
and
Pops
at
a
lower
rate,
I
think
that
is
totally
Equitable.
D
But
when
you
get
to
the
point
where
you
know
this
version
or
this
that
version
you
know,
when
you
apply
for
a
new
rental
apartment,
they
don't
say
well,
hey.
Why
were
you
evicted
at
the
last
place?
Oh
I'll,
give
you
a
break
on
rent
like
that.
Doesn't
that
doesn't
it
doesn't
work?
And
so
I
I
don't
know
I
feel,
like
you
know
the
state
when
they
pass
their
ordinance.
D
All
the
evictions
had
the
exact
same
payment,
I
think
we're
playing
with
fire
if
we
start
to
mess
with
that
formula,
but
I
think
there
is
a
different
formula
we
can
work
with,
especially
with
your
second
point
about
the
Mom
and
Pops
I.
Think
there's
an
opportunity
to
find
a
different
payment
system
for
for
smaller
landlords.
F
I
see
what
you're
saying
I'm
not
talking
about
the
tenant,
actually
looking
for
a
different
apartment
that
they're
going
to
get
a
break
because
they
were
evicted
for
a
different
circumstance.
I
just
I'm,
saying
that
if
there
is
a
house
provider
that
is
in
need
to
move
into
their
unit
which
again
under
1482,
there's
really
specific,
you
have
to
move
in
there
for
a
year,
you
have
to
I
mean,
and
you
can
take
them
to
court
if
they
don't
move
in
there.
So
there's
a
lot
of
restriction
and
we
do
have
to
follow
1482.
F
There's
no
preference
one
or
the
other
I
I'm,
saying
that
there's
a
difference
between
somebody
that
is
moving
a
tenant
out
because
they
renovate
they're
going
to
get
more
money,
they're
going
to
remodel
their
unit,
they're
doing
something
different
versus
somebody's,
giving
that
house
to
their
mom
their
dad
their
son,
and
it
has
to
be
immediate
family
because
very
specific
language.
They
can't
give
it
to
their
cousin
or
Aunt
I
mean
there
has
to
be
a
media
family.
AD
I'm
actually
going
to
make
this
more
complicated,
now
and
agree
with
I
mean
when
has
this
been
simple,
I
I'm
going
to
agree
with
that
part
that
councilmember
Mullins
mentioned
I
I
was
and
when
I
mentioned
confusion
earlier
I
was
caught
off
guard
because
I
thought
we
were
talking
just
about
Renovations,
so
we've
seen
Renovations,
we
are
seeing
that
we
are,
you
all
know,
I'm
very
involved
in
this
field,
we're
Target
for
Flippers.
What
I
would
like
to
call
apartment?
AD
Flippers
we've
heard
from
our
our
you
know:
constituents
every
time
we
heard
from
a
new
constituent
today
who
mentioned
that
her
apartment
unit
or
her
complex,
was
purchased
by
somebody
who
came
clearly
with
the
intent
of
doing
that.
So
I
think
I
I
agree
with
you.
We
need
to
focus
on
that.
This
renovation
piece
it's
very
important
and
and
I
am
also
a
little
hesitant
about
the
idea
of
taking
away
somebody's
power
to
move
themselves
in
or
their
parents
into
their
property.
AD
I
think
that
that
might
fall
a
little
Beyond
us
I
disagree
with
you
on
the
mom
and
poppies,
because
our
staff
today
told
us
very
clearly
that
they
can't
Define
that
to
a
T
and
I
would
stake
a
lot
on
saying
that
our
mom
and
pops
are
real
mom
and
pops,
like
some
of
the
folks
that
are
sitting
here
in
this
room,
are
not
thinking
about
renovating.
They
don't
have
the
means
to
do
a
renovation.
My
landlord
laughed
when
I
told
them
about
that,
because
it's
not,
he
doesn't
know
the
money.
AD
He
said,
please
don't
leave
if
you
left,
it
would
cost
me
money
so
I,
our
Chima
and
Pops.
Don't
have
the
like,
quite
frankly,
almost
millions
that
it
would
cost
at
this
point
to
take
a
building
remodel.
It
got
it
and
then
sell
it
at
three
times.
The
market
rate
so
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
misinformation
out
there.
I
know
a
lot
of
folks
and
this
breaks.
My
heart
are
coming
to
us
saying
things
like:
please
don't
allow
you
know
these
three
months
for
a
tenant,
that's
not
paying
rent,
that's
not
happening.
AD
AD
All
of
those
things
down
the
Road
like
we've
mentioned
and
have
a
much
more
robust
conversation,
but
this
is
to
close
something
that
is
happening
to
us
and
I
just
want
to
add
one
more
tidbit
and
then
I'll
get
off
my
Pulpit
I
know
you
have
something
to
say:
I
I've
been
watching
this
very
closely,
and
one
of
my
fears
and
I
just
wanna
put
this
in
all
of
your
heads
is
in
watching
the
renovation
piece.
AD
That's
happening,
the
folks
that
are
doing
it
are
folks
that
are
purchasing
not
our
mom
and
pops,
so
when
they
purchase
and
they
renovate
a
lot
of
times
and
one
of
Mr
harami
I
believe
brought
this
up.
He
said
they
can
purchase
and
add
units
and
and
renovate
and
remember
we
have
a
lot
of
State
bills
that
allow
for
that
to
happen.
So
my
fear
here
is,
if
we
don't
close,
this
renovation
loophole,
we're
also
not
protecting
our
mom
and
pops,
because
we
are
leaving
the
door
open
for
buyers
to
come
in
upend.
AD
AD
M
Could
you
rephrase
real
quick
what
the
two
so
for
the
just
like
narrowing
it
to
just
the
the.
F
Leave
out
the
part
that
deals
with
the
house
providers
moving
into
their
units
under
the
law
of
1482
the
language
that
currently
provides
only
specific,
immediate
family
and
everything
else
that
stands
under
1482..
K
K
Define,
it's
the
provision
on
no
fault
just
cause
which
includes
any
of
the
following.
So
we're
talking
about
to
council
member
Perez's,
we're
not
talking
about
fault,
you
know.
Failure
to
pay
rent,
we're
talking
about
no
fault
just
cause
can
be
four
things.
It
can
be
intent
to
occupy.
So
a
2A
is
intent
to
occupy
the
residential
property
by
the
owner
or
their
spouse,
domestic
partner,
children,
grad
children,
parents
or
grandparents.
K
K
Okay,
but
there's
no
criteria,
not
any
purpose,
just
intent
to
withdraw
it
from
the
the
rental
market.
C
is
basically
a
government
order,
necessitating
the
vacating
of
the
property
which
could
be
Broad
so
c.
One
is
an
order
issued
by
a
government
agency
or
Court
relating
to
habitability
that
necessitates
vacating
the
residential
property.
Now
the
habitability
problem
could
be,
the
housing
provider's
habitability
problem
or
it
could
be
the
tenants,
habitability
problem.
K
The
tenant
shall
not
be
entitled
to
relocation
assistance
as
outlined.
So
that's
where
the
the
quarter
government
agency
is
is
looking
at
it
and
how
they
determine
fault
kind
of
depends.
We've
had
some
kind
of
hoarder
issues
here,
I,
don't
know
that
we've
seen
them
a
lot
with
tenants,
but
we've
seen
them
with
like
The
Heirs
of
people
who
have
passed
away,
that
that
may
have
mental
health
issues.
Okay,
two
so
C2.
So
this
is
still
government
orders.
K
An
order
issued
by
a
government
agency
or
Court
to
vacate
the
residential
real
property,
just
in
order
to
vacate
not
necessarily
habitability.
Now
that
could
be
a
condemnation
action,
in
which
case
the
government's
responsible
for
the
relocation.
Not
if
we
were
to
do
it,
we
buy,
we
buy
all
the
consequences
of
taking
somebody
out
of
business,
not
only
their
relocation
and
their
loss,
investment,
but
also
the
tenants
and
relocation
and
their
statutory
requirements
for
relocation.
So
that's
one
possibility
of
this.
C2
is
an
order
issued
by
a
government
agency
to
vacate
the
residential
property.
K
Three
is
a
local
ordinance
that
necessitates
the
vacating
of
residential
property.
Again,
that
is
not
the
fault
of
the
landlord.
It's
this
body.
Only
this
body
and
this
17
square
miles,
adopting
an
ordinance
that
somehow
necessitates
the
vacating
of
residential
property.
That
hasn't
happened
in
my
18
years
of
being
here
be
hard
to
speculate,
but
it
clearly
one
thing
it
wouldn't
be:
is
the
housing
provider's
fault
if
this
Council
were
to
adopt
an
ordinance,
so
I
could
see
where
C2
and
3
are
really
probably
not?
K
K
D
D
Oh
I
guess
we
are
questioning.
We've
moved
way
past
that
all
right,
let's
hold
put
a
pin
in
that,
because
I'm
gonna
ask
you
I'm
gonna,
ask
you
later
because
I
yes,
because
I'd
like
to
tackle
that,
do
we
have
any
other
questions
about
specific
stuff
yeah
all
right
go
for
it!
Okay!
No!
That's
fine!
That's
fine!.
AL
M
It's
one
thing:
it's
gonna
take
an
hour.
Okay,
so
I
I
do
have
one
question
about
the
definition
of
substantial
renovation
and
I
know
that
you
read
it
to
us
from
ab1482.
first.
The
first
question
is:
is
it
possible
for
us
to,
even
though
it
is
Incorporated
in
that
State
legislation
to
to
flush
it
out
and
write
it
actually
in
our
our
ordinance,
so
that
when
local
folks
read
it,
they
don't
have
to
go
then
refer
to
1482
to
see
what
substantial
renovation
is?
K
So
my
only
concern
about
that
is
we're
incorporating
the
law
by
reference,
except
as
we
modify
it.
Okay,
as
it
may
be
amended
from
time
to
time,
and
so,
if
that
definition
changes,
we
end
up
having
this
departure
in
our
definition
from
the
state's
definition
right.
M
M
K
AD
M
Yeah,
okay,
so
that
that
serves
the
same
purpose,
a
different
way
to
do
it.
Okay,
and
so
part.
Two
of
the
question
about
substantial
Renovations
is
that
one
of
the
one
of
the
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
concern,
or
just
just
thinking
about
this-
that
if
a
landlord
provides
a
list
of
the
renovations
they
want
to
do,
and
they
say
this
is
going
to
take
a
month.
You
can't
be
here
because
this
is
all
going
to
happen.
M
I
need
to
get
done,
so
here's
an
example,
so
my
youngest
is
in
an
apartment
right
now
who
and
they're
doing
several
different
upgrades
to
the
apartment
and,
while
they're,
while
the
youngest
is
living
there,
they
are
doing
the
upgrades
and
there
may
be
hours
here
and
there
where
they
need
to
to
leave
in
order
to
do
something,
but
they
don't
need
to
do
be
out
of
the
house
for
an
entire
month.
M
They
just
do
them
incrementally,
but
if
you
took
it
at
the
total
totality
of
what
they're
doing
for
this
apartment,
one
could
say
it's
a
substantial
Innovation,
because
there's
a
lot
going
on
so
I,
just
I,
guess
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
say
substantial
renovation,
it's
actually
something
that
requires
people
to
be
outside
of
their
home
and
not
just
a
long
list
of
things
that
need
to
be
done.
That
really
could
be
done
incrementally.
Do
you
see
what
I'm.
K
Saying
yeah
so
so
our
ordinance
says
the
the
tenant
has
been
provided
with
a
written,
detailed
account
of
the
scope
of
work
and
why
the
work
cannot
be
reasonably
accomplished
in
a
safe
manner.
That's
going
to
be
subject.
If
the
tenant
doesn't
want
to
move,
it
will
be
a
judge.
Interpreting
written
detailed
account
why
the
work
cannot
reasonably
accomplished
in
a
safe
manner
and
that's
subject
to
scrutiny
and
and
so
in.
K
There
correct
okay
yeah,
so
if
it's
asbestos
or
lead-based
paint
and
they
have
a
permit
from
the
Department
of
toxic
substances
or
or
the
fire
department
or
whatever
yeah,
but
but
I,
don't
know
in
one
apartment
that
that
would
take
30
days.
But
it
could
be
that
they're
doing
the
entire
building.
It
could
be
that
every
painted
surface
is
problematic
or
they're
replacing
windows
and
and
they're
disturbing
the
contaminated.
In
any
event,
they
would
list
that
and
it
would
be
subject
to
judicial
review.
I
Okay,
I'm
up,
let's
go
following
up
on
that
now
I
might
be
mistaken,
but
have
any
jurisdictions.
This
might
be
part
of
the
Second
Step
report.
Have
any
jurisdictions
gone
the
step
further,
because
the
right
right
now
property
owner
can
say
I
need
to
do
these
substantial
Renovations
and
it's
a
I
would
say
sort
of
a
subjective
test
right
if
they
make
the
the
Declaration
I
mean
in
theory,
could
go
to
court,
it
could
be
reviewed
later,
but
really
there
isn't
a
check
in
real
time
on
it.
You
have
any
other
jurisdictions.
I
K
Well,
currently,
local
jurisdictions
don't
have
that
detailed
enforcement.
Authority
Under
the
statute.
That's
why
SB
567
delegates
gives
the
attorney
general
and
City
attorneys.
Injunctive
relief,
I
think
that's
an
acknowledgment
that.
I
Yeah,
where
I
was
going
with
the
question
was-
and
I
might
be
mistaken
here,
but
when
I
talked
about
looking
at
some,
some
of
our
sister
cities
for
comparison
and
I
might
be
mistaken.
Here,
I
thought
I
think
it
was
Pasadena.
I
might
be
wrong,
but
I
thought
one
of
them
had
put
in
a
provision
about
the
city
needed
to
independently
verify
that
there
was
in
fact
some
sort
of
a
need
to
vacate
that
it
wasn't
a
pretext
and
I
just
don't
know.
I
AI
Vice
mayor
for
for
the
question,
we're
we're
still
Gathering
all
the
information
on
the
different
options,
menu
of
options
that
have
been
discussed
so
I
don't
have
any
specific
details
on
that
again
previously
mentioned
that
this
ordinance
was
modeled
after
one
specifically
Claremont
Alhambra.
So
that
is
something
we
continue
to
gather
and
put
together
in
terms
of
the
impossible,
more
expanded,
tenant
protection.
Okay,.
AI
The
the
main
reason
was
it's
it's
most
recent,
and
it
also
does
include
very
similar
and
specific
to
the
relocation,
the
renovation
for
to
utilize
that
term
to
to
close
that
it
was
very
specific
to
that
area
of
intent
and
requiring
permits.
So
it
just
was
really
close
to
what
the
council
would
have
been
looking
at
and
what
the
direction
was
for.
This
particular
ordinance.
I
Thank
you
now
about
the
definition
of
substantial
remodel.
How
is
that
currently
defined
under
ab1482.
AL
AI
AI
Intend
to
demolish
or
substantially
remodel
the
residential
oil
property
for
for
purposes
of
the
subparagraph
substantially
remodel
means
the
replacement
or
substantial
modification
of
any
structural,
Electrical,
Plumbing
or
mechanical
system
that
requires
a
permit
from
a
governmental
agency
or
the
abatement
of
a
hazard
of
hazardous
materials,
including
lead-based
paint,
mold
or
asbestos,
in
accordance
with
applicable
federal
state
and
other
local
local
laws.
That
cannot
be
reasonably
accomplished
in
a
safe
manner
with
the
tenant
in
place,
and
that
requires
the
tenant
to
vacate
the
residential,
real
property
for
at
least
30
days.
AI
I
So
my
follow-up
question
was
this
and
I'll
offer
the
the
sort
of
the
background
of
of
where
the
question
comes
from.
Clearly
we
have
competing
rights
and
interests
here
we
have
the
rights
of
of
property
owners
and
we
have
the
rights
of
tenants
who
call
that
place
home,
at
least
for
the
period
for
the
period
of
the
leasehold
one
of
the
things
I
remember
at
Great
length.
I
We
were
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
room
tonight,
but
we've
also
heard
in
the
past
from
our
landlord
tenant
Commissioners
and
several
of
them
have
come
forward
and
said:
hey.
We
really
need
to
Define
this
better
when
I'm.
Looking
at
this
ordinance,
I
guess
my
question
is,
it
doesn't
seem
like
we
really
attempted
to
further
Define
it.
We
did
look
at
adding
the
permitting
there's
the
discussion
of
the
added
relocation
cost.
I
K
K
So
the
fact
that
we
would
require
a
permit
actually
subjects
the
review
to
a
actually
a
great
deal
of
scrutiny,
because
it's
not
only
the
review
of
the
work
for
issuance
of
the
permit
if
it's,
but
a
dishwasher
is
not
going
to
require
someone
to
be
out
for
30
days,
so
they
still
have
to
get
the
permit.
But
it's
not
going
to
rise
to
the
level
of
requiring
relocation.
Sure.
I
No,
no
and
I
I
actually
appreciate
the
explanation.
I
guess
where
my
mind
was
going
and
I'm,
not
an
expert
in
this
area
was
you
know
if
we
had
looked
at
you
know,
perhaps
defining
it
another
way,
like
you
know,
bringing
a
unit
into
compliance
with
health
and
safety
standards,
or
something
like
that.
But
it's
it's
sound
I
see
where
staff's
coming
from
in
terms
of
of
sort
of
tying
it
to
the
permit
requirement,
but
it
sounds
like
that
would
maybe
be
another
thing
that
could
be
looked
at
in
in
future
conversations
about
about.
K
F
Sure
being
a
little
sarcastic
but
assuming
they
all
know,
I
was
hoping
that
they
at
least
tied
down
everything
and
make
sure
that
they
wrote
it
down
as
it
should
be.
But
okay.
E
I
All
right,
I
I,
appreciate
that
optimism.
So
I
just
got
one
more
one
more
question:
it's
for
staff,
I'm,
hoping
the
public
will
indulge
me
here
because
look
I
I
am
not
a
a
housing
provider.
I
was
a
tenant
until
I
wasn't
so
it's
been
a
while
and
I've
never
been
subject
to
a
to
an
eviction.
But
I
do
want
to
ask
this
so.
I
I
I
You
know
something
I've
had
to
wrap
my
head
around,
so
we
are
talking
about
Renovations
as
a
as
a
justifiable
reason
to
evict
someone
and
end
the
lease
prematurely,
but
regardless
of
what
we
come
down
on
that
decision,
a
property
owner
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
we'll
always
have
the
right
at
the
end
of
a
lease
period,
to
make
that
determination
of
you
know
what
I'm
going
to
take
this
off
the
market
for
a
bit
I'm
going
to
do
the
renovation,
because
you
know
for
whatever
the
reason
that
that's
always
a
right,
that
they
have
that's
unimpinged
by
ab1482.
D
D
Is
up
you
got
to
give
a
30-day
notice
on
month
11
to
get
them
out,
so
this
is
tough
yeah.
AQ
D
You
don't
do
the
30-day
it
automatically
converts
monthly
converts
to
month
to
month
and
once
you're
month
to
month,
the
assumption
is
you're
under
the
purview
of
the
previous
lease
and
so
yeah
at
that
point
any
month,
during
a
month
a
month,
you,
as
as
the
landlord,
have
the
option
to
file
for
the
the
rent
eviction
to
do
the
yeah
at
any
month.
At.
I
Any
time
so
so
for
clarity
of
the
record
I
appreciate
that
I'll
be
more
clear
in
my
question.
If
I
reach
the
end
The
Prudent
property
owner,
saying
you
know
what
it's
you
know,
the
30
or
30th
birthday
31st
day
of
month,
11
I
want
to
get
this
property
renovated,
whether
we're
talking
about
1482
or
something
locally.
The
property
owner
can
always
say.
I
K
That
that's
correct,
I
think
what
the
law
recognizes
is
a
property
owner
may
need
to
renovate
the
entire
building
say
it's
lead-based
pain
or
asbestos
or
a
structural
deficiency.
K
You
know
some
kind
of
earthquake
repair
and
a
rotting
mezzanine
on
a
two-story
multi-tenant
they'd
have
to
keep
under
this
scenario
each
tenant
vacant
until
the
last
tenancy
became
vacant
to
then
remodel
the
whole
building
and
they'd
be
forced
to
piecemeal,
and
so
this
law
I
think
recognizes
that
they
may
need
to
end
some
leases
in
order
to
do
an
economical
portion
of
the
work.
Okay,.
I
So
that
leads
to
one
final
question
so
and
that
to
me
makes
it
makes
sense
policy
wise.
Perhaps
there
is
some
you
know
situation
where
you
have
an
entire
building,
maybe
with
a
foundation
issue
or
something
where
you
really
couldn't
afford
to
wait
it
out.
Plus,
you
know
the
added
cost
of
you
know:
units
turning
over
and
sitting
vacant
so
have
any
if
the
staff
knows
tonight
have
any
jurisdictions
looked
at
in
that
situation.
I
You
know:
we've
talked
about
one
piece
of
it:
relocation
assistance
have
other
jurisdictions,
looked
at
like
a
right
for
the
tenant
to
be
able
to
come
back
into
the
unit
once
it's
renovated
at
the
same
rent
rate.
K
Yeah
there
are,
for
instance,
city
of
Los
Angeles
has
a
very
long-standing
and
robust
set
of
tenant
protections
that
could
require
a
right
to
to
release
a
unit
as
far
as
even
five
years
or
more
there's,
probably
people
in
the
room
that
know
better.
But
it's
it.
It's
very
far-reaching
and
it's
a
a
right
to
release,
and
it's
it's
pretty
broad,
that's
something
that
I
believe
we
have
direction
to
bring
back
in
a
in
a
second
step
and
there's
you
know
many
different
ways.
K
You
could
probably
characterize
that
right
right,
so
there
are
cities
that
have
it.
We
have
not
yet
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
AD
City
of
LA's
is
very
comprehensive,
is
to
put
it
lightly.
I
would
also
add
confusing
to
everybody,
but
I
I
would
say
to
your
point:
I
think
you've
looked
at
Pasadena,
you
said
they
do
have
one
that's
much
simpler
and
I.
Think
in
looking
at
the
smaller
cities,
they
tend
to
choose
like
simpler
versions,
which
just
straightly
say
here
is
a
right
to
First
refusal
in
this
situation
and
a
right
to
return
to
your
tendency
in
the
situation.
I
And
I'll
just
quickly
add
for
the
record:
I
haven't
looked
at
Glendale
or
Pasadena
in
totality
I've.
Just
looked
at
this
very
narrow
issue,
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
and
that
obviously
sits
within
the
context
of
a
much
larger
rental
regulatory
scheme.
All
right,
I
probably
talked
enough.
That's
all
my
questions,
good
education
for
me.
D
Had
a
mild
property
management
company
had
a
seven
unit,
seven
unit,
rent
control
in
LA
and
one
by
one
they
paid
people
off
to
move
because
they
were
going
to
demolish
the
place,
but
one
guy
had
a
lease
that
he'd
signed
a
12-month
lease
and
they
couldn't
get
him
out.
So
it
was
like
vacant.
Six
units
were
vacant
for
like
half
the
year
and
they
were
waiting
for
this
one
guy
to
leave,
he's
like
no
I'm
not
going
to
go
and
they
try
to
pay
him
off.
D
He's
like
no
I'm
not
going
to
go
so
yeah.
It's
a
little
weird
in
L.A
I
wanted
to
oh
I
had
one
last
question:
someone
had
mentioned
a
mom
and
pop
owner
living
in
Burbank.
D
D
K
Sorry
I
I'm,
just
I,
mean
my
mind
is
racing
through
many
examples
of
you
know.
What
is
it
that
we
use
to
verify
residency?
Sometimes
it's
a
utility
bill
right,
so
someone
could
live
in
Camarillo
and
still
have
the
utilities
in
their
name
because
they
lease
the
unit,
including
utilities
right
or
they
could
live
in
the
front
or
we've
had
this.
K
They
live
in
the
unit
six
months,
plus
one
day
which
makes
it
their
primary
residence,
but
they
rent
it
out,
otherwise,
none
of
which
is
improper,
all
of
which
we
would
have
to
figure
out
right
how
to
build
a
better
mousetrap.
Okay,
so
I
mean
that's.
Maribel
probably
has
better
examples,
but
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
AI
The
only
thing
I
would
add
when
we're
when
we're
looking
at
the
data
from
the
for
the
mom
and
pop
possible
exemption
is
that
this
information
comes
from
a
business
tax
information,
and
so
we
would
really
just
need
clear
direction
as
to
what
exactly
you,
the
council
would
want
us
to
look
at
residents.
We're
just
wouldn't
be
clear:
we
need
more
more
information
because
it
could
be
a
name,
it
could
be
a
corporation,
and
how
do
we
determine
if
their
mom
and
pop
or
not?
K
Q
K
Might
disagree
with
it?
It's
nominal
I,
don't
know,
but
it
really
like
what
criteria
we're
using
okay.
F
I'm
gonna
turn
this
back
and
I
know.
You
want
us
to
give
you
directions,
but
I
want
to
ask
you
the
type
of
examples
that
other
cities
have
used
to
exempt
the
mom
and
pop
from
or
reduce
their
the
payout
amount.
What
what
have
cities
have
done
to
do
that
to
help
the
mom
and
pop
not
to
be
paying
out
as
much
money
as
we're
discussing
tonight?.
AI
Well,
I
will
say
that
I
wasn't
prepared
to
give
the
summary
of
the
ordinances,
because
we
were
really
focused
on
the
direction
that
the
council
gave
in.
That
direction
was
the
just
cause
for
substantial
renovation
and
how
to
close
that
and
then
looking
at
a
relocation
amount.
And
so
when
we
were
looking
at
the
information,
the
ordinances
that
we
looked
at
was
the
three-month
relocation
amount.
So
we
do
have
some
preliminary
information,
but
I'm
not
going
to
do
it
justice,
because
I'm
just
going
to
highlight
a
few.
AI
Only
one
city,
though
so
there
was
only
one
city
that
did
exempt
the
relocation
amount
for
Mom
and
Pop.
There
are
other
cities
that
then
change
the
relocation
amount
for
if,
if
they
were
income
eligible,
so
if
they
were
low
lower
income,
it
was
whatever
the
amount
is
plus
an
additional
amount
for
a
qualified
household
am
I.
Answering
the
the
question
properly.
You.
F
Are
and
and
I
know
you
weren't
expecting
that
question
tonight.
The
reason
I'm
asking
I
would
like
for
me
personally
to
make
sure
that
we
do
provide
some
exemption,
but
I'm
also
willing
to
listen
to
what
other
cities
have
done
to
help
us
determine
or
help
me
determine
what
exemption
that
we
should
offer.
F
But
here's
a
question
to
the
City
attorney
what
you
indicated
earlier
about
adopting
the
urgency
ordinances
coming
back
in
in
by
September
27th
I,
believe
our
next
meeting
may
be
providing
some
additional
direction
for
the
ordinance
that
you
bring
back
before
we
adopt
it.
That
can
include
some
examples
of
the
exemption.
K
So
what
we
could
do
is
adopt
the
exemption
in
the
urgency
ordinance,
so
the
exemption
would
exist
and
we
could
adopt
it.
We
could
put
it
in
the
introduced
ordinance,
so
they
would
be
exempt
from
the
permit
or
it
could
just
be
the
payment.
The
question
is:
are
they
exempt
from
the
permit
or
because
what
we're
doing
is
we're
adding
the
whatever
we
would
call
the
Mom
and
Pops
subsection
e
civil
code,
section
1946.2
e
says
this
section
shall
not
apply
to
the
following
types
of
residential,
real
Properties
or
residential
circumstances.
K
That's
everything,
and
so
is,
is
that
the
wish
of
the
exemption
we
could
throw
the
exemption
in
or
we
could
make
them
not
exempt
under
the
urgency
ordinance,
and
we
could
put
it
in
the
introduced
ordinance,
throw
some
language
around
it
depending
upon
what
it
is.
K
You
actually
want
to
exempt
them
from,
and
we
could
refine
that
and
bring
it
back
and
that
refined
language
would
not
be
effective
until
the
31st
day
after
adoption,
and
then
it
would
supersede
it
would
actually
drop
it
in
if
you
don't
put
it
in
the
urgency,
it's
not
in
there
until
we
adopt
an
ordinance
with
the
language
you're
happy
with
in
there,
but
then
Mom
and
Pops
wouldn't
be
exempt.
AD
K
AI
Was
concerned
that
that
this
was
going
to
be
the
question
we
don't
have
all
the
information
we
were
asked
to
look
at
different
ordinances.
We
are
putting
together
the
information
so
with
the
time
that
we
had
allotted
the
the
information
that
we
have
and
I'm
going
to
go
through.
If
you
can
bear
with
me
my
little
chart
here
so
I
have
for
for
exemptions,
I'm
going
through
here
to
pick
up
the
cities
that
I
looked
at
that
had
exemptions
for
the
mom
and
pop
and
the
other
areas.
M
P
D
O
D
B
D
I'm
sliding
into
we're
kind
of
sliding
into
deliberation,
but
well,
let's,
let's
finish
this
while
she's,
looking
that
up
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
this
I
feel
is
a
little
bit
further
outside
the
scope
of
what
we
originally
asked
for,
which
is
kind
of
why
they're
unprepared,
I,
don't
have
a
problem
talking
about
it
tonight.
M
Yeah
to
that
point,
I
think,
like
tonight,
I
see
is
kind
of
a
chisel
to
really
address
a
specific
issue
and
then
also
I,
don't
want
to
adopt
something.
I
would
be
concerned
about
adopting
something
tonight.
That
then,
would
change
later,
because
then
it'll
be
confusing
for
people.
So
I'd
like
to
try
to,
if
possible,
for
us
to
focus
on
what
we
know
for
sure
tonight,
which
is
whatever
chisel.
M
We
can
really
address
right
away
and
add
on
rather
than
to
choose
something,
and
then
later
you
know
bring
it
back
and
then
have
to
like
redo
it
for
the
sake
of
the
community
too.
It's
not
just
our
work,
but
also
the
community
would
have
to
deal
with.
What's
changing
this
to
that
yeah
and
all
the
education
we're
going
to
try
to
do,
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
consistent
and
continues
to
build
versus,
changing
and.
F
K
If
you
did
introduce
it,
it
would
only
need
one
more
action
to
become
final
and
you
could
give
us
Direction.
You
could
introduce
it
with
an
exemption
and
give
us
Direction
on
what
type
of
threshold
you
want
to
see,
or
we
could
bring
back
the
introduction
of
an
ordinance.
In
any
event,
the
later
action
would
supersede
the
urgency.
However,
however,
we
made
the
changes.
D
Want
to
direction
we
want
to
give
that's.
That
is
clearly
on
point
finish
up
your
thing
and.
AI
Then
yes,
I,
do
have
some
information,
so
in
terms
of
the
exemption
for
mom
and
pop
landlords
of
Claremont
does
have
an
exemption
from
for
properties
with
less
than
nine
or
less
units
for
the
relocation
amount.
Then
also
I
have
here.
City
of
Culver
City
does
have
an
exemption
for
Mom
and
Pop
landlords
for
in
relocation,
assistance
for
those
properties
with
three
or
less
units,
and
then
city
of
Los
Angeles,
also
Less
in
relocation,
assistance
for
the
smaller
landlords
and
it's
a
whole
chart
and
menu
of
different
amounts.
B
AI
AD
D
Okay,
so
to
councilmember
takahashi's
point
before
us
today
to
before
us
now
on
this
agenda
item
is
an
urgency
ordinance.
We
have
a
separate
ordinance
coming
after.
D
We
can
pass
this
if
we
want
to
now
and
it
takes
effect,
and
then
we
can
do
something
in
the
next
step
to
give
direction
to
staff
to
come
back
and
change.
I
did
want
to
give
councilman
Mullins
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
there's
four
under
the
proposed
urgency
ordinance
in
front
of
us.
There
are
four
types
of
evictions
that
are
covered
under
three
months:
I'll
give
you
an
opportunity
if
you
wanted
to.
D
It's
not
a
hearing,
but
yes,
we'll
end
questions.
We're
good
with
questions
are
over.
Yes,
all
right.
Let's
move
into
deliberation.
I
do
want
to
tackle
this
one
issue.
First,
if
you
wanted
to
propose
it,
we
can
discuss
that
and
then
we
can
talk
about
everything
else.
Thank.
F
You
well,
the
the
one
thing
that
I
want
to
tackle
is
to
focus
on
the
actual
renovation
which
I
believe
it
was
D,
the
the
one
that
you
read,
Mr
City
attorney
and
exclude
everything
else,
because
everything
else
you
read
really
does
not
apply
to
the
renovation
issue
that
we're
trying
to
deal
with,
and
it's
already
addressed
in
1482.
F
The
only
thing
that
we're
excluding
also
is
is
owner
occupied
section
from
from
paying
the
three
months
for
subsidy
to
the
tenants,
but
include
only
D
for
renovation
that
would
include
the
permit.
We
have
the
definition
for
substance,
substantial
remodel
and
that
would
be
kind
of
the
ordinance
that
we're
looking
at
today,
but
then
come
back
with
language
to
address
the
mom
and
pop
I.
Don't
know
if
you
need
us
to
tell
you
tonight
if
what
is
the
definition
of
mom
and
pop?
F
D
K
What
I'm
looking
at
so,
if
you
were
going
to
make
a
motion,
it
would
be
to
amend,
propose
section
5-4-104.
K
To
insert
the
word
substantial
remodel
before
the
words
no
fault
just
cause
and
insert
the
letter,
capital
D
following
the
letters
B2.
So
it
would
read
like
it
would
read
like
this.
If
an
owner
of
residential
real
property
issues,
a
termination
notice
based
upon
a
substantial
remodel,
no
fault
just
cause,
as
defined
in
subsection
b2d
of
section
1946.2
of
the
California
civil
code,
AS
amended
from
time
to
time
or
replaced
by
a
successor
statute,
the
owner
shall
provide
relocation
assistance
in
accordance
with
ab1482's
just
cause
eviction
Provisions
Etc.
K
K
Based
upon
the
language
of
1946.2,
which
we
have
Incorporated
by
reference,.
AD
F
D
So
no
we're
only
this
is
only
to
change.
The
current
proposed
urgency
ordinance
that
we're
looking
at
tonight
yeah.
We
have
a
whole
separate
issue
later
on
yeah,
so
this
is
just
for
tonight's
urgency,
ordinance
that
takes
effect
right
now.
We
are
proposing
a
a
three-month
relocation
assistance
to
just
renovations.
D
Prior
to
that,
as
we
walked
into
the
room,
the
proposal
was
three-month
assistance
to
all
just
cause
evictions.
The
motion
on
the
table
is
to
exempt.
D
Yeah
exempt
owner
move-in,
exempt
off
the
market
removal
and
exempt
any
government
reason
to
remove
the
unit
or
a
vacant
unit.
So
that's
the
motion
on
the
table.
D
Okay,
I'll
second,
it
just
for
a
discussion
so
I'll.
Second,
the
motion
and
the
discussion.
I'll
go
back
to
my
original
reasoning,
I
think
if
we,
if
we
change,
there's
four
reasons
to
to
evict
and
I,
think
if
you
create
a
system
where
one
of
those
reasons
is
more
expensive
than
the
other
you're
gonna
start
you're
going
to
start
to
get
people
with
it
and
saying:
well,
maybe
it's
actually
this
one,
and
maybe
it's
that
so
yes,
I
did
second
it
but
I'm
gonna
vote
against
it.
M
Because
I
actually
agree
too,
that
that
it
we
have
to
be
very
careful
and
when
we're
considering
considering
all
the
different
four
options,
but
tonight's
not
the
night,
to
do
that
in
my
opinion,
and
so
I
do
agree
with
you
on
a
lot
of
these,
the
concepts
that
you're
bringing
up
and
I
think
they're
worthy
of
discussion.
However,
just
right
now
is
not
the
time
to
do
that
in
my
opinion,
but
so
I
think
it's
worthwhile
to
consider
that
this
is.
This
is
not
a
permanent
like
this.
M
This
is
just
just
to
get
us
through
the
stop
Gap
until
we're
to
the
next
section.
So
that's
that's
how
I'm
thinking
about
it
at
least
not
a
commitment
to
that
one
particular
exception
as
being
more
important
or
more
that
one
eviction
reason
is
more
important
or
more
essential
in
general
just
tonight.
In
order
to
get
through
this,
it's
a
chisel,
that's
that's
just
kind
of
how
I'm
seeing
it
to
help
help
you
process
it.
If
you
need
any
okay.
F
And
with
the
understanding
that
there
will
be
a
committee
that
will
get
together,
they'll
meet
they'll
have
a
discussion
to
maybe
this
will
work.
Maybe
it
doesn't
I'm
hoping
that,
once
all
the
right
parties
get
together
and
have
a
dialogue,
they
can
come
back
to
us
and
say
well,
maybe
we
need
to
modify
it.
No.
This
actually
would
work,
but
we
need
to
move
forward
with
something
I.
Don't
again
the
reason
I'm
doing
this
not
to
really
punish
people
who
want
to
use
their
units
as
their
housing
and
having
to
punish
them.
D
AD
I
agree
with
with
that
right,
like
100,
like
we're
talking
about
Remodeling
and
substantial
remodel
or
substantial
renovation,
whatever
one
you
want
to
use
and
and
I
want
to
make
sure,
because
the
urgency
ordinance.
The
reason
we
did
the
urgency
ordinance
was
because
of
this
issue.
I
have
yet
to
hear
and
I
hope,
I
never
do
a
room
full
of
people
asking
for
you
know
help,
because
a
bunch
of
land
Lords
are
moving
their
moms
into
their.
AD
So
so
yeah
I
would
agree
that
that's
the
way,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
also
leaving
ourselves
open
to
further
discussion,
not
only
with
leaving
ourselves
open
to
further
discussion
with
the
actual
ordinance
councilman,
Takahashi
I
know
you
mentioned
that
you
don't
want
to
change
it
too
much
I'm,
weary
of
that
just
because
to
our
staff's
credit,
she
has
not
had
the
time
right.
AD
So
if
there
are
changes
that
she
finds,
if
she
miraculously
finds
a
wonderful
ordinance
out
there,
that
addresses
all
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
here,
I
I
would
hate
to
say.
Well,
no,
we
already
are
going
down
this
road
right.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
considering
everything
so
I
would
I
would
support
this
with
with.
If
we
can
all
have
an
open
mind
when
it
comes
to
the
ordinance,
because
we
have
yet
to
hear
what
staff
has
to
say,
I
want
to
give
her
the
time
to
do
her.
Research.
D
Okay,
all
right
vote.
D
D
Oh
I
lost
okay,
all
right,
we
amended
there.
You
go
the
all
right
so
three
months,
relocation
to
just
run
evictions
hey
there,
you
go
okay,
so
we
have
an
ordinance
in
front
of
us
any
more
deliberation
on
what
we've
got
again.
This
is
just
the
urgency
ordinance,
as
is
written
with
the
one
amended
change.
We
do
have
a
second
item
coming
to
us
immediately
after
where
we
can
give
input
where
we
can
do
modifications
as
needed.
D
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
If
there's
any
no.
B
B
D
D
Us
yeah,
so
we've
got
the
urgency
ordinance
in
front
of
us
with
the
amended
language.
We
need
four
votes
for
this
one
to
pass.
Is
there
a
motion
on
the
floor?
Did.
K
D
AE
M
D
I
D
All
right,
the
next
item
for
the
agenda
is
a
typical
ordinance
mirroring
what
we
just
had,
but
this
is
going
to
require
a
second
step.
So
let's
go
through
the
motions.
First
up,
we
have
a
you
know,
read
it
directly.
D
The
next
report
is
a
introduction
of
an
ordinance
imposing
height
intended
protections
for
Just
Cause
evictions
for
certain
residential
tendencies
in
the
City
of
Burbank,
requiring
permits
for
demolition,
substantial
Remodel
and
increasing
the
relocation
assistance
payment
to
three
months.
Rent,
oh
Mrs,
maribelina.
O
There
you
are
Housing.
AI
AI
Just
to
recap:
we've
been
speaking
through
the
previous
item:
the
urgency
ordinance
as
the
directed
by
the
city
council
after
the
ab
1482
study
session
on
August,
8th
and
the
direction
was
to
address
substantial
Renovations
in
ab1482
and
looking
at
relocation
amounts.
So
we've
been
discussing
in
the
previous
item.
AI
How
to
include
four
proposed
substantial
Rehabilitation
include
these
areas
for
permits,
plan
check
and
the
different
areas,
including
giving
notice
of
two
tenants
I'll
go
through
here:
the
relocation
assistance
we
I'm
going
to
pass
this
slide,
because
the
relocation
assistance
in
the
I
should
back
up
a
little
bit
I'm
getting
a
little
mumbled
myself.
The
urgency
ordinance
that
was
passed
was
specific
to
three
months:
relocation,
assistance
for
substantial
renovation.
AI
Only
the
tenant
protection
ordinance
for
before
you
this
evening
does
clue
include
three
months
for
no
just
cause
evictions
that
were
in
effect
when
the
owner
issued
the
notice
to
terminate
the
tenancy.
So
the
no
fault
notices
would
I'm
going
to
pause
there
for
a
second.
So
if,
in
this
particular
ordinance,
The
Proposal
is
to
increase
it
for
three
months
for
all
no
fault,
evictions.
AI
And
we
have
the
discussion
of
mom-and-pop
landlord
information
for
possible
exemptions
for
consideration
from
the
city
council,
and
we
would
continue
to
do
the
Outreach
and
workshop
Outreach
and
enforcement
information
out
to
the
community
as
discussed,
and
this
is
the
recommendation,
unless
otherwise
directed
by
the
council.
Thank
you.
Okay.
K
Was
going
to
supplement
the
staff
report
with
the
latest
Redline
version
of
ab
567,
which
is
part
of
the
Gap,
we're
trying
to
fix
right
to
to
close
the
loophole
until
this
new
law
comes
into
effect,
it
does
split
the
definition
of
substantial
remodel
into
multiple
parts
and
has
a
prong
that
would
permit
a
resident
to
remain
in
a
property
unless
they're
not
required
to
vacate
on
any
days
where
the
tenant
could
continue
living
in
the
unit
without
violating
health,
safety
and
habitability
codes.
K
So
it
kind
of
punches
a
hole
in
the
work
can't
be
completed
within
30
days,
because
it
creates
the
possibility
that
the
tenant
could
stay
in
there
if
they
can
argue
it
doesn't
violate.
However,
I
will
tell
you
that
during
construction-
and
unfortunately
we
don't
have
our
our
subject
matter
expert,
but
generally
once
a
certain
level
of
construction
has
been
commenced
under
a
permit.
A
unit
is
not
habitable
and
oftentimes
they'll
red
tag
if
they
see
someone
living
in
a
unit
where
construction
is
ongoing.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
there?
K
There
is
a
change
to
the
structure
of
it,
this
language
hasn't.
You
know
it's
still
got
referred
back
to
the
Senate,
but
the
law
could
change
we'll
have
to
keep
our
eye
on
that
so
as
to
this
ordinance,
which
can
be
introduced
tonight,
but
cannot
be
adopted
sooner
than
five
days
from
introduction
or
I
have
to
seven
days
whichever
it
is
and
then
not
effective
for
31
days,
this
bill
may
actually
make
it
to
the
governor
and
be
signed
or
vetoed
before
our
ordinance
would
be
effective.
So
that's
something
we
want.
D
AS
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
again
to
you
tonight
on
this
agenda
item
again,
I
think
the
topic
of
tenant
protections
and
rent
stabilization
address
two
different
issues
and
I.
Don't
think
we
should
be
commingling.
Those
two
issues
into
one
ordinance
as
I
stated
earlier.
I
do
believe
that
it's
reasonable
to
have
a
sufficient
tenant
protections,
as
it
relates
to
no
fault
evictions
as
a
result
of
a
renovation
which
you've
clearly
acknowledged
and
adopted
an
emergency
or
urgent
ordinance
to
that
effect.
AS
So
you
know,
I
think
it's
fair
to
have
a
discussion
on
tenant
Protections
in
specific
situations
and
not
apply
a
broad
General
tool
such
as
rent
stabilization,
to
try
to
address
an
issue
that
is
not
the
fault
of
housing
providers
as
not
caused
by
housing
Proprietors,
but
rather
the
you
know,
City
officials,
and
so
it
would
be
unfair
to
place
the
burden
of
affordability
on.
AS
You
know:
local
family-owned
housing
providers
to
subsidize
the
cost
of
renters,
and
so
you
know
it's
it.
It
seems
as
though
that's
the
policy
that
keeps
being
discussed-
and
it's
not
the
housing
provider's
fault
that
you
know
the
market
rent
is
unaffordable
for
people.
So
that's
what
elected
officials
are
elected
to
address,
not
private
citizens
and
I'll
just
end
it
on.
On
that
note,
thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
John
Garrow,
followed
by
David
Donahue.
AU
AV
Good
evening,
it's
still
evening
not
morning
honorable
mayor
Anthony,
vice
mayor
Schultz,
council
members
and
talented
staff,
David
Donahue
business
owner
homeowner
and
the
greats
City
of
Burbank,
taking
this
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
for
the
cost
of
living
I'm,
not
sure
how
many
of
you
go
out
and
have
lunch
to
Lancers
or
tally,
rent
or
something
but
iced.
Tea
is
four
dollars
and
fifty
cents,
four
dollars
and
fifty
cents.
AV
Take
that
extrapolated
on
every
aspect
of
life
anywhere
in
the
state
of
California
taxes
mandated
wages
that
are
going
up
from
fifteen
dollars
to
maybe
twenty
four
dollars
and
goodness
gracious
golly.
It
is
getting
more
expensive
to
live
in
the
city
of
Burbank.
Well,
there
seems
to
be
a
lack
of
the
correlation.
AV
Because
of
my
other
point,
this
is
a
infinitesimal
fraction
of
people
that
are
being
affected
affected,
yes
and
unfortunately,
so
and
I
think
that
there
are
things
that
need
to
be
put
in.
To
kind
of
you
know
prevent
people
taking
advantage
of
any
class,
that's
just
the
right
thing,
but
it's
a
fraction.
AV
D
Thank
you,
George
Garrow
and
that's
my
last
common
card
on
this
item.
AT
Greetings
again,
just
a
small
follow-up
note
here
there
was
a
question
during
deliberations
about
whether
SB
567
redefines
substantial
remodel
it.
Oh
it
does.
It
does
redefine
substantial
remodel,
specifically
it's
SB
567,
which
would
be
effective
as
written
right
now.
This
is
the
September
11th
revision.
AT
It
would
be
effective,
April,
1st
2024
it
states
and
I
can
give
you
the
exact
citation,
but
for
purposes
of
the
sub
paragraph,
a
tenant
is
not
required
to
vacate
the
residential
real
property
on
any
days
where
a
tenant
could
continue
living
in
the
residential,
real
property
without
violating
health
safety
and
habitability
codes
and
laws.
AT
Essentially,
the
30
days
is
going
to
be
measured
by
not
just
are
there
upgrades
being
done
to
the
unit,
but
rather
is
this
unit
now
unsafe
and
uninhabitable
based
upon
the
remodels
that
are
being
done
so
I
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention.
There's
a
few
other
details
in
this
bill,
I
and
I,
and
of
course,
a
lot
of
people
here
know
much
more
about
this
than
I
do.
But
I
think
that
this
is
the
last
week
of
the
legislative
session.
Is
that
right?
AT
So
we
would
know
by
the
end
of
the
week
whether
or
not
this
would
pass
okay,
so
that
means
that
we'll
be
able
to
incorporate
that
information
into
whatever
discussions
we
have
Beyond
this
week
and
it
SB
567
further
states
that
the
notice
must
include
a
statement
which
effectively
says
if
the
remodel
is
not
commenced
or
completed.
AT
The
owner
must
re-let
the
unit
at
the
same
terms
as
before.
So
if
there
is
a
change
for
some
reason
the
permits
pulled
and
then
for
some
reason
it's
let's
say:
interest
rates
go
up
and
it's
not
feasible
anymore.
Then
the
the
unit
must
be
re-let,
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention.
Thank.
D
You
thank
you
and
just
to
clarify
the
end
of
the
week.
The
language
of
the
bill
gets
set.
Governor
still
has
12
days
to
sign
it,
so
you
need
that
signature
all
right
great.
So
we
are
now
at
the
point
where
we're
looking
at
a
adoption
of
an
ordinance
this
an
introduction
of
an
ordinance,
sorry
introduction.
It
would
need
a
second
reading
for
it
to
be
adopted.
So
if
we
want,
we
can
work
with
what
we
have
here
and
then
give
staff
Direction.
How
do
we
feel?
What
is
the
council's
pleasure.
I
Well,
Mr
Mayor
I'll
jump
in
I
would
like
to
give
some
direction
to
staff,
so
they
know
which
which
way
to
row
row.
The
boat
I'll
just
say
one
thing
briefly
and
then
I
really
want
to
hear
from
all
of
you.
I
hate
terms
like
Mom
and
Pop,
because
I
couldn't
tell
you
what
that
means.
So
I
really
think
we
need
to
Define
it
does
Mom
and
Pop
mean
someone
who
live
in
Burbank
and
have
put
all
of
their
modern
money
into
the
nest
egg.
That
is
their
property.
I
Maybe,
but
when
you're
just
designing
the
exemption
from
the
number
of
units,
as
we've
talked
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
better
model
is
out
there,
but
I
think
that's
my
ultimate
question
to
staff
and
to
the
stakeholders
who
will
be
participating.
We
need
to
figure
out
a
good
answer
for
that
or
the
other
alternative
is
there's
no
exemption,
as
is
currently
provided
for
in
the
urgency
ordinance.
But
right
now,
I
can
tell
you.
I
I
It
seems
to
me,
like
there's
a
lot
more
Community
engagement
that
we
need
to
do.
We
have
the
issue
of,
should
there
be
an
exemption?
I
If
so,
how
do
you
define
Mom
and
Pop
Good
Luck
to
figuring
that
one
out,
then
you
have
the
issue
of
relocation,
assistance
across
categories
for
what
it's
worth
I
do
agree
with
you,
Mr
Mayor
in
the
long
term,
I
think
that
there
is
a
reason
that
it
applied
across
all
categories
because
you're
trying
to
prevent
the
displacement
of
people,
but
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
and
then,
of
course,
even
further
work
with
the
renovation
exemption.
I
I
am
not
an
expert
in
this
area,
but
I
think
that
other
jurisdictions
have
looked
at
right
to
return
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
still
needs
to
be
done.
That
I,
don't
feel
we
have
here
and
so
I
mean
I
could
introduce
an
ordinance
to
make
everyone
feel
good
like
moving
it
forward,
but
I
would
reckon
that
the
the
final
product
should
one
pass,
because
it's
a
possibility.
I
We
wouldn't
right,
but
it
should
one
pass
I
think
it
would
look
drastically
different
than
what
we're
introducing
tonight
and
that
could
lead
to
confusion
for
the
community.
So
with
a
stop
Gap
measure
in
place.
I
would
just
encourage
the
the
subcommittee
members
to
really
expedite
what
I,
what
I
think
has
been
an
interest
you
both
expressed
about
getting
people
to
the
table
and
bringing
some
recommendations
back
to
council
sooner
rather
than
later.
But
that's
just
one
person's
opinion.
D
Let
me
ask
a
procedural
question
to
our
City
attorney:
we
pass
an
urgency
ordinance.
You
brought
us
a
standard
ordinance
to
backstop
it
if
a
if
a
standard
ordinance
that
does
not
match
the
language
of
the
urgency
ordinance
passes
tonight.
If
there
is
no
second
ordinance
adopted
what
happens
to
the
urgency
ordinance
and
why
why
do
we?
How
do
we
move
forward
without
a
backstop?
What
are
we
so.
K
There's
there's
several
reasons
why
your
urgency,
ordinance
that
you
adopted
this
evening
should
be
sufficient.
One
I
believe
the
findings
are
really
solid.
People
are
losing
their
homes
right
from
this.
This
lack
of
a
agreeable
definition
of
what
a
substantial
remodel
is
to
the
point
where
you
funded
a
half
million
dollar
fund
as
a
safety
net
for
people,
so
so
sometimes
urgency,
ordinances.
K
I,
don't
believe
that
the
urgency
here
is
really
debatable:
we've
had
people,
you
know
losing
their
homes
and
and-
and
we
have
had
the
ability
to
enact
something
stronger
and
you've
done
that
also
oftentimes
urgency.
Ordinances
are
prepared
quickly
and
they're,
not
codified,
yet
in
the
code,
so
they
exist
only
in
terms
of
this
paper
law.
This
one
we
prepared
as
a
chaptered
ordinance,
which
will
now
get
codified
and
sit
in
the
Burbank
municipal
code,
so
oftentimes
the
later
ordinance
actually
codifies
the
urgency
ordinance.
That's
not
an
issue,
because
this
is
codified.
K
D
And
these
just
to
clarify
these
Provisions
will
stay
until
that
happens.
Yes,.
K
Ordinances,
you
see
relate
to
interim
Land
Development
in
an
interim
zoning
regulations
which
have
a
timer
on
them.
They
have
a
time
limit.
This
ordinance
doesn't
have
a
time
limit.
It
had
a
heightened
vote
requirement.
You
needed
a
super
majority
of
four-fifths
per
your
Charter,
but
it
doesn't
evaporate
because
it's
not
done
under
the
government
code
section
that
makes
that
that
would
qualified
as
an
interim
development
standard.
This
doesn't
address
development,
IT
addresses
tenancies,
and
so
it
doesn't
expire
like
your
normal
urgency,
ordinances.
F
F
Sometimes
we
need
to
put
a
time
line
to
when
we
want
to
see
this
happens,
because
then
it
does
in
a
way
put
a
little
bit
and
I'm
sorry
to
do
this
to
you,
both
council
members
and
everybody
else,
but
maybe
we
do
need
so
we
can
have
it
somewhere
placed
on
the
agenda
that
we
have
to
come
back
within
a
certain
time.
So
there's
like
a
Time
certain,
so
we're
not
leaving
this
wide
open.
So
we
we
have
that
discussion,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
60
days
or
45
days,
I
don't
want
to.
F
You
know
you.
You
guys
can
obviously
feel
comfortable
to
see
when
you
can
meet
when
you
can
have
the
dialogue.
It's
very
important
that
everybody
sits
at
the
table
have
meaningful
discussion
to
what
the
agreement
that
you
can
come
back
to
us
with
and
then
at
that
time
we
give
directions
to
the
City
attorney
and
staff
to
draft
something
for
us
to
look
at
and
adopt.
K
What
is
it
in
in
support
of
council
member
mullen's
statement?
What
is
it
that
the
council
subcommittee
would
find
helpful
in
terms
of
Staff
preparation,
because,
right
now
we
have
direction
to
bring
a
second
step
report,
but
the
subcommittee
might
want
to
see
that
information,
or
are
you
going
to
have
more
like
an
open
discussion,
because
what
staff
intends
to
bring
is
in
Matrix
form
strategies,
cities
approaches
to
strategies
by
cities,
plus
a
narrative
that
we're
assuming
will
be
over
inclusive?
You
won't
want
to
do
everything
that
every
city
does
necessarily.
K
It
may
not
make
sense,
but
the
tenants
and
landlords
could
separately
engage
or
do
you
want
some
work
product?
In
other
words,
if
you
want
work
product,
then
this
community,
Forum
collaboration,
will
have
to
wait
at
least
until
staff
can
can
bring
that
forward.
We've
got
about
six
jurisdictions
if
I
recall
correctly.
We
may
add
a
few
that
make
sense
that
you
know
to
maribel's
point.
There
are
some
that
may
look
more
like
where
we
think
we're
going,
and
there
are
all
the
strategies.
AD
I
don't
know
if
councilmember
Taco
how
she
feels
about
this,
but
I
I,
don't
want
to
make
staff
do
work
twice.
So
I
would
rather
already
have
you
all
take
your
time.
You
need
that
to
do
that,
then
we
agendize
something
with
the
community,
so
the
community
gets
as
much
information
as
we
do
because
otherwise,
like
you
said
you
all
go
forward,
do
something
the
community
comes
with
their
proposals
and
then
what?
If
it's
not
looking
the
same.
I
May
I
make
a
recommendation.
Sorry,
just
a
thought:
I
don't
know,
what's
a
feasible
timeline
for
both
of
you,
but
I
would
imagine
that
there's
certainly
uncertainty
in
the
community
from
from
both
sides.
I
You
know
wanting
to
see
a
resolution
here,
so
perhaps
you
could
do
that
meeting
in
the
next
30
days
again
if
it's
compatible
with
both
of
your
schedules
and
Staffing,
of
course,
and
then
I
think
after
having
that
meeting
I
think
at
that
point,
hopefully
with
input
from
the
meeting
we
could
be
looking
at
the
introduction
of
a
next
ordinance,
or
at
least
the
next
report
on
that
I
think
that
would
at
least
move
it
and
it's
consistent
with
council
member
mullen's
suggestion
of
just
moving
it
forward
and
not
letting
it
fall
into
the.
F
So,
council,
member
Perez,
I,
I
I,
agree
on
some
things.
You've
said,
but
I
want
to
offer
this
at
times
what
I've
seen
in
committees
is
you
you
have
seen
as
well
that
there's
some
ideas
or
some
suggestions
or
recommendations
that
staff
perhaps
need
to
go
back
and
do
a
research.
F
So
what
I
was
I'm
thinking
is
I.
Think
it's
helpful
to
gather
that
information
and
do
it
first,
listen
to
what
the
committee
needs,
because
they
might
go,
have
to
do
some
research
that
they
didn't
think
about.
So,
if
you
can
meet
within
those
30
days,
timelines
get
all
the
information
go
back
and
give
it
to
staff
and
said.
Okay,
we
need
researchers
on
these
different
cities
different
areas.
Then
they
can
prepare
it
and
bring
it
back
to
us.
F
K
K
AY
F
And
where
we
I
did
not
mean
at
all
to
put
time
limit
I
know
within
reason,
you're
going
to
bring
it
back,
but
it's
30
days
for
the
committee
to
actually
meet
provide
you
some
feedback
input.
Then
you
go
out
and
do
the
research.
Then
you
bring
something
more
meaningful
that
you
have
discussed
in
your
committee.
They've
done
the
research.
Then
we
can
all
sit
down
and
discuss
it.
M
And
to
that
point
of
less
work,
I
mean
this.
This
discussion
is
a
you
know,
there's
a
lot
going
on
and
so
part
of
I
think
our
challenge
has
been
is
like
what
are
we
actually
going
to
be
talking
about
at
this
meeting
and
for
me
personally,
I
was
kind
of
sort
of
waiting
to
see
where
this
conversation
would
go
and
what's
happening
here
to
know
what
the
next
step
was
going
to
be
because
I
didn't
want
to
bring
the
community
together
to
spend
three
hours.
M
AP
AF
M
Step
is,
and
it
sounds
like
we've
got
some
ideas
of
what
that
next
step
is
also.
We
had
some
previous
timeline
direction
of
the
previous
meeting
of
what
we
want
to
do
incrementally.
M
So
my
feeling-
and
please
direct
me
staff,
if,
if
you,
if
you
you
know,
please
give
me
information
if
you
you
feel
like
that
would
be
helpful
for
us,
too,
is
like,
let's
see
if
we
can
take
whatever
that
next
step
would
be
logical
of
what
to
discuss
so
we're
not
discussing
everything
under
the
Sun,
but
the
things
that
would
logically
come
next,
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
get
a
meeting
together,
not
necessarily
with
all
the
data,
but
at
least
with
topics
that
make
sense
for
the
next
thing.
AD
That
sounds
like
an
agenda,
so
if
we
could
get
things
on
an
agenda
that
that
makes
sense
to
staff
for
us
to
discuss
broad
topics
because
I
I
agree
and
we've
had
this
conversation
like
seven
different
times.
We
want
to
make
sure
this
is
a
productive
meeting
for
everybody
involved,
so
that
we're
not
just
throwing
ideas
out
of
the
Sun
and
things
that
will
actually
come
back
and
that
the
community
feels
heard,
and
so
I
too
was
waiting
to
have.
AD
M
At
a
goal
set
too
I
think
like
what
are
we
trying
to
get
out
of
this?
Not
me,
it's
fine
to
have
a
brainstorming
session,
which
is
great,
but
I
would
love
to
have
like
what
do
we
want
the
the
output
to
be
of
this
meeting?
Do
we
want
to
have
like
three
or
four
suggestions
on
this
topic?
Do
we
want
to
have?
What
is
the
goal
to
see
if
we
can
really
wrap
up
this
particular
order?
I
mean
what
is
it?
M
What
is
the
output
that
we're
looking
for
so
that
way,
when
we're
in
the
meeting
we
we
can
really
stay
focused
on
what
we're
trying
to
get
the
results
from
and
I
just
I,
just
don't
I
just
don't
want
to
devolve
into
debate
back
and
forth
about.
You
know
what
people's
opinions
are,
but
really
stay
focused
on.
Let's
all
work
together
for
a
common
goal,
so
that's
kind
of
I.
M
R
K
Let
me
add
to
the
discussion
that
looking
at
the
assembly.ca.gov
legislative
calendar
the
last
day
for
the
governor
to
sign
our
veto
bills
passed
by
the
legislature
on
or
before
September
14th,
which
is
Thursday
and
in
the
governor's
possession
honor
after
September
14th,
is
October
14th.
So
we
may
not
know
the
final
outcome
of
SB
567
until
October
14th
and
that
may
play
in
significantly
about
what
the
new
state
protections
are.
That
won't
be,
in
effect
likely
until
April,
1st
2024.
I
If
I
could
make
one
more
suggestion
to
the
subcommittee,
because
you
have
folks
who
will
probably
leave
this
room
tonight
very
eager
to
talk
in
that
conversation,
I
think
you
know
y'all
don't
need
to
decide
right
now,
necessarily,
but
you
should
give
them
some
clarity
as
to
whether
you
will
be
talking
about
the
more
narrow
issue
of
tenant
protections
and
what
a
permanent
version
of
this
ordinance
would
look
like
if
you're
intending
to
have
a
more
broad
conversation
about
rent
stabilization
I
would
just
be
very
clear
at
the
at
the
at
the
out
front
about
whether
or
not
that's
going
to
be
an
item
of
discussion
so
that
hopefully
it's
a
productive
one
and
I
would
just
say
having
served
on
other
subcommittees,
starting
with
a
more
narrow,
limited
agenda.
D
B
I
Do
we
need
a
motion,
Mr
city
manager,
City
attorney.
D
D
This
is
the
time
for
council
members
to
report
on
their
Council
committee
assignments.
Remember
this
yeah!
That's
it
we're!
At
the
end.
We
had
a
whole
thing
that
got
pulled
from
the
calendar,
so
yeah
foreign.
F
Fifth
District
public
here,
oh
yes,
we
had
the
public
hearing
on
August
23rd
for
districting
also
had
a
meeting
on
August
24th
for
fiscal
Treasure,
City
Review
Committee
group
with
the
mayor
on
September
7th
I,
attended
an
event
at
Burbank
Masonic
Lodge.
They
recognized
the
officer
of
the
year
firefighter
of
the
year
and
the
employee,
the
civilian
of
the
year.
It
was
a
great
event
and
it
was
nice
to
see
them
being
recognized.
F
I
also
attended
the
commemoration
of
9
11
event
and
had
some
phone
calls
meeting
with
the
Burbank
tenant
unions
and
yeah
lots
of
phone
calls
and
emails.
That's
it.
B
D
Just
to
piggyback
off
that,
yes,
the
public
hearing
for
districting,
the
fiscal
and
treasurer's
review
that
was
great
on
the
30th
I
did
attend
the
LA
County
division,
legislative
committee
and
board
of
directors
meeting
a
lot
of
discussion
on
state
bills.
All
the
whole
discussion
was
on
what
is
happening
at
the
state,
so.
AD
AD
I
also
had
some
phone
calls
with
constituents.
Attendants
and
landlords
I
attended
the
run
out
group
records
ribbon,
cutting
with
our
vice
mayor.
That
was
a
lot
of
fun.
I
have
yet
to
go
back
and
buy
a
record,
but
I
won't
wait.
AD
I,
guess
I
don't
well,
can
we
just
do
them
all?
Togethers
is.
B
AD
Already
did
okay
I
attended
the
retirement
of
our
fire
chief
Eric
Garcia
and
welcomed
our
new
fire
chief
Danny
Alvarez
and
I
also
went
to
the
911
tribute
and
attended
the
Costa
Rican
Day
celebration,
which
is
one
of
our
many
Hispanic
heritage
months
celebrations
with
our
mayor,
we
gave
out
a
lot
of
certificates
and
fried
Under
the
Tent.
Yes,
it's.
AB
AD
I
August
24th
meeting
with
the
CEO
Providence
St
Joseph
Medical
Center,
run
out
Groove
records
on
August
25th
I
found
a
very
good
Sinatra
vinyl
I
like
that,
then,
let's
see
retirement
of
Chief,
Garcia
and
change
of
command
ceremony
for
fire
chief
Alvarez
on
the
first
had
a
meeting
with
Representatives
with
the
digital
Restaurant
Association
about
getting
more
involved
with
the
Burbank
chamber
and
our
Community
Development
Department
September
6th
September
7th,
with
council
member
Takahashi,
participated
in
a
joint
policy
committing
for
policy
committee
meeting
for
skag
and
then
September
8th,
ribbon
cutting
for
bread
and
breakfast.
I
If
you're
looking
for
a
new
breakfast
place,
pretty
darn
good
September
11th
in
addition
to
our
911
tribute
here,
I
also
rode
with
the
Burbank
Road
Kings
in
Montrose
for
their
911
remembrance
parade
always
great
to
ride
with
them.
Mark
Vargas.
He
is
the
mayor
of
Burbank,
so
you
apparently
have
competition.
Mr,
Mayor,.
I
Vargas
for
the
ride,
that's
right
in
the
thing
is
what
they
call
it
his
his
Jeep
and
then
September
12th
had
a
meeting
today
with
our
consultant
regarding
economic
development
plan
for
the
city.
That's
everything
all.
M
Right,
that's
it's
been
a
long
time
since
we've
done
a
report,
so
we've
gotten
all
that
on
our
list
on
Saturday
August
26th
I
did
I
participated
in
the
Golden
State
specific
plan,
project
walking
tour,
and
that
was
a
really
informative
and
one
of
the
best
parts
about
it
was
being
able
to
to
talk
with
constituents
who
live
up
in
that
area
and
to
to
really
see
on
the
ground
what
their
experience
is
up
there.
So,
the
next
time
there
is
a
walking
tour
up
there,
I
recommend
it.
M
I
also
attended
the
retirement
of
fire
chief,
Eric,
Garcia
and
change
of
command
for
our
new
fire
chief
who's.
No
longer
here,
I
on
September
5th
I
had
a
meeting
with
a
non-profit
organization
called
standard
communities,
and
this
is
an
organization
that
does
builds
and
rebuilds
of
affordable
housing.
M
It
was
a
really
interesting
organization
to
chat
with
and
I
connect
them
with
CDD
I,
attended
on
September,
7th,
The,
Joint
meeting
of
skagg
policy
committees
and
they
presented
a
comprehensive
Regional
Transportation
plan
and
that
Transportation
plan
is
now
available
to
the
public
for
commenting
so
I
recommend
going
to
skag
and
looking
up
the
transportation
plans.
M
It's
a
very,
very
comprehensive
on
the
8th
I
went
to
the
Grand
Opening
ever
been
cutting
of
bread
and
breakfast,
which
is
a
new
Armenian
Mexican
restaurant,
which
I've
never
had
that
before,
and
that
was
a
really
good
I
know
and
then
I
missed
the
911
tribute
I'm.
So
bummed
you
all
were
there.
I
was
sick
in
bed,
so
I'm
sorry,
but
it
bummed
I
missed
it,
but
it
looked
like
really
a
really
moving
event.
So
I
was
there
in
spirit.
D
I
will
add
one
last
thing:
I
went
to
all
the
other
stuff
I
met
last
week
with
the
Consulate
General
of
Armenia,
who
came
into
Burbank
and
wanted
to
ask
about
economic
opportunities
for
trade,
so
that
was
interesting,
yeah
great
stuff.
Now
is
the
time
for
the
introduction
of
additional
agenda
items.
Do
members
of
the
council
have
any
items
to
introduce.
F
I'd
like
to
have
a
report
come
back
to
council
for
first
discussion
regarding
special
events,
permit
process
pertaining
to
the
timing
of
notification
to
vendors
or
merchants
or
the
community
in
that
area.
F
And
the
other
item
to
be
added
on
the
agenda
for
future
discussion
is
the
one
I
talked
about
earlier
mayor's
conduct.
Thank
you.
M
During
the
budget
budgeting,
we
talked
about
an
updated,
permitting
process
for
special
events
if
we
could
just
get
a
kind
of
an
update
on
like
how
that's
going
and
where
that
you
know
just
in
general,
in
addition
to
what
council
member
Mullins
requested.
Thank
you.
I
Mr
Mayor,
if
I,
could
get
a
first
step
report
on
committing
the
Burbank
animal
shelter
to
become
a
no-kill
shelter.
I'd
appreciate
that,
technically
we're
not
a
no
kill,
I
can't
say
anymore,
because
that
would
be
discussion
right.
D
I,
oh,
do
you
have
anything?
No
I'd
like
a
first
step
report
on
writing
a
letter
of
support
to
the
city
of
Los
Angeles
on
freeing
Billy
the
elephant
from
the
zoo,
Billy
the
elephant
and
then
I'd
like
a
white
paper.
D
First
on
this
I
know,
we
currently
do
not
use
glue
traps
on
city
property
I'd,
like
a
white
paper
on
what
other
places
are,
having
bands
on
glue
traps,
either
city-wide
or
County
wider,
any
jurisdiction
that
we
know
of
that
has
a
ban
on
glue
traps
please
locally
locally
I!
Don't
need
to
go
too
far
out.
Okay,.
D
Okay,
we
now
adjourn
the
meeting
to
Tuesday
September
26th
2023.,
we'll
see
you
then.