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Burbank Police Commission Meeting - June 21, 2023
A
A
B
B
Thank
you.
Everyone,
the
public
comment
period
will
be
coming,
will
be
upcoming
in
a
few
minutes
for
community
members,
and
here
in
person.
Please
complete
the
speakers
card
and
hand
it
to
staff
for
members
who
wish
to
phone
in
comments.
Please
call
818-238-335
callers
will
be
placed
in
queue
until
all.
In
person
comments
have
been
received,
and
now
we're
going
to
move
on
to
commission
announcements
and
Reporting
out
by
Commissioners
and
adult
subcommittees.
C
The
committee
that's
trying
to
coordinate
with
the
schools
has
been
in
communication
and
I'm
finding
out
that
the
administration's
return
in
July
August
1st,
so
we're
hoping
in
July
to
conduct
a
very
to
compose
a
very
broad
General
offer
that
we
will
send
out
to
the
administrators
and
whoever
responds,
responds
and
we'll
have
whatever
success
we
can
with
with
their
cooperation
and
hopefully
down
the
year.
It'll
it'll
snowball,
but
it's
it's.
We
have
had
some
activity
on
its
own
this
last
month.
Thank
you.
D
Just
to
say
that
I've
been
in
communication
with
some
folks
from
together,
we
can
around
various
things
that
they're
working
on
like
a
potential
community
meeting
and
some
other
things
so
just
been
trying
to
support
them.
As
I
can
wonderful.
E
Yeah
I
had
the
opportunity
on
May
25th
to
attend
as
part
of
the
Los
Angeles
Fleet
Week
for
the
U.S
Navy,
their
leadership
conference,
which
was
held
in
downtown
L.A
and
sponsored
by
the
Los
Angeles,
Port,
Police
and
I
have
to
say
it
was
very
interesting
because
it
was
at
such
a
a
high
level
when
we
were
talking
about
things
that
affect
the
entire
country
yeah
and
it's
it's
pretty
interesting.
I
thought
one
of
the
most
interesting
speakers.
E
There
was
vice
admiral
Peter
defenser,
who
is
former
rear
Admiral
of
the
U.S
Coast
Guard
and
his
background
is.
He
ran
the
TSA
in
the
Obama
administration
and
in
2010,
when
British
Petroleum
had
the
oil
spill
in
the
Gulf
with
the
deep
water
Horizon,
he
was
The
Incident
Commander,
and
when
we
talk
about
crisis
management
and
cooperation
teaming-
and
you
know
other
groups-
you
have
to
work
with
which
you
normally
don't.
He
was
a
very
interesting
speaker
and
I
really
enjoyed
the
whole
experience
of
that
leadership
conference.
Thank
you.
D
Yeah
I
forgot
to
mention
that
I
also
attended
a
webinar
through
naikel
around
bias
in
interpretation
of
video
evidence.
So
let's
just
a
couple
different,
you
know
people
presented
and
you
know
they
spoke
about.
D
You
know
how,
where
the
camera
angle
is
from
or
whose
point
of
view
it's
from
and
all
these
different
things
affect
the
way
that
that
evidence
is
interpreted
because
I
think
you
know
many
times,
people
like
to
think
well
everything's
on
video
now,
so
it's
very
clear
what
happened
you
know,
and
even
still
we
see
that
people
have
different
opinions
about
what
happened
even
with
the
video,
and
so
it's
just
kind
of
going
into.
D
You
know
explaining
why
that
might
be,
and
then
also
just
how
the
different
where
the
video
was
taken
from
you
know.
Is
it
a
security
camera
up
somewhere?
Is
it
a
body
worn
camera,
all
those
different
things,
how
it
all
plays
into
how
it's
how
it
can
be
interpreted
by
people
because
we're
we're
all
human
right,
so
we
see
things
how
we
perceive
them
right:
okay,
yeah.
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
if
there's
no
further
reporting
we'll
move
on
to
oral
Communications,
and
this
will
be
for
three
minutes.
First,
we'll
start
with
the
public
comment
period
in
person.
I
would
like
to
call
up
Valerie
kamea,
welcome
to
the
police
commission
meeting.
F
Thank
you
for
allowing
the
public
to
speak
at
this
Commission
meeting
and
good
evening.
I'm
Valerie
Comey
I've
been
a
resident
of
Burbank
for
13
years.
I
live
on
Catalina
by
the
by
the
airport
and
I
understand
that
there
are
four
buildings
coming
up
that
have
that
have
section
8
housing,
which
is
not
an
issue,
but
that
because
of
a
certain
law,
they're
able
to
not
have
a
parking
space
for
each
unit
and
I
understand
that
maybe
fewer
people
in
Section
8
housing
have
cars.
F
F
If
the
and
I
know
this
is
not
your
baliwick,
but
if
there's
enough
recreational
space
within
the
buildings
or
and
if
Robert
Gross
Park
is
going
to
be
a
default
like
backyard
for
everybody,
it's
like
I
mean
it's
been
fine
in
his
backyard
right
now,
but,
like
you,
when
you
have
I,
don't
know
like
a
thousand
people
joining
it's
like
is,
is
that
planned
for
so
I
just
want
to
raise
that,
and
the
third
thing
was:
let's
see
parking
security,
and
just
thank
you
for
keeping
us
safe
during
covet
and
and
everything
you
do.
B
G
Good
evening,
Commissioners
first,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
service.
I
know
it's
volunteering.
It's
a
lot
of
effort,
also
good
evening
to
staff
and
chief
Albanese.
G
My
name
is
David
Donohue
I'm,
a
resident
and
business
owner
to
the
previous
commenters,
illustrating
the
buildings
that
are
going
on
on
Empire
I
would
definitely
Echo
those
sentiments
that
she
had
this
evening.
There
are
a
couple
things
I
wanted
to
address.
G
The
commission
on
one
is
first,
is
I
want
to
commend
the
commission
for
looking
and
taking
a
look
at
Safe
Streets,
so
the
state
streets
I
think
that
there's
also
been
reports
on
Vision
zero
I
think
several
months
ago
a
sergeant
did
a
presentation
and
talked
about
how
Vision
zero
would
actually
cause
more
injuries
and
death
and
that
examples
of
vision,
zero
in
the
city
of
Los
Angeles
have
have
basically
showed
that
it's
not
accomplishing
what
it
does.
So.
G
The
reports
that
you're
going
to
that
you're,
going
to
hear
that
you're
going
to
look
into
I
would
really
encourage
the
commission
to
be
a
very
strong
Advocate,
this
Advocate
to
the
city
council.
They
will
listen
to
you.
They
will
listen
to
public
comment
and
I
try
to
do
that
as
often
as
I
can.
But
I
only
have
three
minutes.
You
all
have
a
lot
longer.
You're
also
going
to
be
able
to
look
at
it
a
lot
with
a
lot
more
scrutiny
to
be
able
to
see
what
the
effects
are
for
our
community.
G
G
The
other
day
school's
out
my
wife
and
I
like
will
walk
around
the
just
the
neighborhoods,
and
we
have
several
times
been
passed
by
e-bikes
on
sidewalks,
not
on
Chandler
path,
which
we
live
very
close
to,
but
the
other
day
we
were
almost
knocked
over
by
a
young
man
who
was
probably
traveling
about
15
miles
an
hour
on
the
sidewalk,
and
there
was
nothing
for
us
to
really
get
out
and
we
had
to
kind
of
we're
like
get
out
of
the
way
get
away,
and
he
just
basically
gave
us
the
middle
finger
and
said
you
get
out
of
my
way.
G
Also,
is
there
a
ride-along
program
for
a
person,
who's
87
years
old
and
would
like
to
go
for
a
ride
along
with
a
police
officer
not
for
the
whole
shift,
but
a
short
section,
because
my
father-in-law
can't
use
it
to
hold
it
that
long,
but
he
would
like
to
be
able
to
experience
a
little
bit
more
one-on-one
with
the
police
department
if
that's
an
option.
Thank
you
again
for
the
service
for
that.
B
C
The
previous
Evolution
I
was
on
the
traffic
commission,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
some
of
the
parking
things
you
learn
about
and
I
understand
that
I
believe
Laura
Friedman
proposed
that
if
it's
within
a
half
mile
of
a
a
Metro
Hub
or
something
that
requires
the
drop
prior
to
partner
spaces,
I
do
know.
C
The
city
council
has
worked
hard
because
they're
getting
they're
they're
getting
orders
basically
from
Sacramento
on
the
mountain
housing
myth
to
increase
and
the
pardon
but
I
do
think,
especially
with
adus
parking
is
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
be
a
problem
and
it's
better
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
ahead
of
time.
C
Mr
Donahue
I
bought
an
e-bike
when
I
was
on
the
traffic
commission.
I
went
to
the
I,
went
to
a
Metro
program
in
North,
Hollywood
I
got
on
the
e-bike.
I
thought
it
was
phenomenal.
I
would
never
think
of
riding
on
the
bicycle,
because
you're
absolutely
correct.
My
first
reaction
to
it
was
when
I
was
a
boy
the
police
took
my
Honda
50
away
from
you
know
a
little
scooter.
This
is
faster
than
that
and
I.
C
Don't
know
and
I
do
live
right
very
close
to
you
on
the
bike
path
and
I
have
to
watch
my
speed,
so
I
agree
with
you,
I
think
it's
something
that
technology
has
gotten
ahead
of
regulations
and
I
think
is
something
we
need
to
address.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
I'd
like
to
thank
Mr
Don,
you
Donahue
and
the
other
speaker.
Sorry
I
can't
remember
your
last
name,
but
thank
you
for
coming.
Addressing
us.
I
have
to
agree
with
you
about
the
e-bikes,
the
I
don't
own
one
and
the
issue
is
they
are
so
quiet
when
they
come
up
behind
you
plus
they're,
capable
I,
think
25
or
28
miles
an
hour.
E
I
I
think
I'd
like
to
thank
both
of
our
speakers
this
evening.
One
thing
that
Mr
Donahue
mentioned
about
right
along
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
get
a
maybe
a
comment
from
our
department
about
the
availability
of
right
on
right,
alongs
to
the
public.
So.
H
Typically,
the
ride-alongs
well,
first
of
all,
we
took
a
Hiatus
during
during
covet
understandable
as
far
as
ride-alongs,
so
ride-alongs
are
typically
scheduled
for
our
police
commissioners
for
folks
that
are
interested
in
law
enforcement
or
are
in
the
process.
H
H
That's
interested
in
the
ride
along
so
I
have
great
admiration
for
that,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
figure
out
what
I
can
do
so
it
may
not
be
a
full-blown
ride-along,
but
certainly
a
tour,
and
maybe
a
couple
laps
around
the
station
so
that
he
gets
to
experience
what
it's
like
to
be
in
a
police
car
with
the
radios
and
it
does
have
the
cool
Factor,
so
we'll
coordinate
with
Mr
Donahue
Captain
corneals
is
here,
so
we
will
do
our
best
to
accommodate
that.
D
I
also
had
a
question
for
you,
I'm,
Chief,
Albanese
or
or
anyone
else
here
who
I'm
sure
can
answer
from
the
Department.
Can
you
just
share
with
everyone?
What
is
the
current?
You
know
regulations
or
rules
around
e-bikes?
Are
they
right
Nas
of
now?
Are
you
allowed
to
ride
them
on
the
sidewalk,
or
is
that
currently
already
not
allowed.
H
So
in
answering
your
question:
it's
my
understanding
but
I'm,
not
the
subject
matter,
experts
that
they
are
not
for
sidewalks,
so
I
am
going
to
look
around
the
room
to
see
if
I'm
getting
so.
So
let
me
do
this
by
by
the
time
I
get
to
Pub
to
the
chief's
updates.
Briefing
I
will
have
an
answer.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you.
Everyone
and
I
would
like
to
thank
the
individuals
that
came
in
for
the
public
comment
period.
I
really
appreciate
your
time.
We
all
really
appreciate
your
time
and
thank
you
for
coming
and
now
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
approval
of
minutes
from
May.
Our
May
17th
meeting
and
I'll
make.
B
Commissioner
McKenna
motion
to
approve
and
commissioner
Allen
secondary
proof
and
then
any
discussion
all
approved.
Wonderful,
okay,
great
all
the
proofs,
everybody
proofs.
B
And
now
we're
going
to
move
over
and
move
to
the
items
of
business
for
our
first
item
on
the
agenda.
It's
the
presentation,
discussion
on
the
effects
of
SB
357
the
safer
streets
for
all
act
enacted
into
law.
July
2022
will
decriminalize
loitering
for
the
purposes
of
prostitution
and
we
would
like
to
welcome
Lieutenant
Claudio
lasaco
for
a
presentation.
J
Need
the
PowerPoint
please
good
evening,
Commissioners
thanks
for
having
me
again:
Lieutenant
Claudia
losaco
oversee
the
investigations
division
at
the
police
department.
A
couple
months
ago,
the
commission
asked
for
a
presentation
on
SB
357
so,
like
you
said,
I'm
here,
to
have
a
short
presentation
on
that.
J
So
we'll
talk
about
the
verbiage
of
the
repealed
law
of
SB
of
the
Senate
Bill,
the
elements
of
the
repealed
law
efforts
to
repeal
the
Senate
bill
after
it
was
enacted.
J
I'll
give
you
some
stats
on
both
loading
for
prostitution
and
prostitution
that
entail
here
in
Burbank,
the
effects
of
the
repeal
and
I'll
obviously
answer
any
questions
you
all
may
have
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
so
Governor
Newsom
signed
SB
357
into
law
in
July
of
2022,
and
it
it
became
effective,
essentially
immediately.
J
J
It
only
decriminalize
the
section
that
allowed
the
police
to
arrest
and
prosecute
loitering
with
the
intent
to
commit
prostitution.
J
It
also
authorized
people
who
have
been
previously
convicted
of
the
crime
which
is
in
Penal
Code
653.22,
to
petition
the
court
to
have
that
conviction,
removed
or
have
it
dismissed
or
even
have
their
case.
Sealed
here
is
the
verbiage
of
the
law,
which,
like
I,
said
its
exact
verbiage
of
the
first
paragraph
of
the
law,
which
again
is
criminalizing
the
loitering
with
the
intent
to
commit
prostitution.
J
There
are
several
subsections
to
the
section
that
I
had
just
posted.
They
include,
in
summary,
do
not
does
not
apply
to
minors
to
actually
have
the
crime
of
lording
for
prostitution.
J
The
subsections
entail
several
examples
of
what
the
officer
needs
to
actually
see
or
have
seen
for
the
law
to
have
actually
been
violated,
which
essentially
is
hailing
down
people
in
cars
or
from
Cars,
making
a
scene
stopping
and
having
conversations
with
the
intent
to
have
a
prostitution
Act
repeatedly
stopping
waving
your
arms
engaging
with
drivers
and
passengers
Etc
having
been
convicted
of
the
section
or
a
prostitution,
related
section
in
the
past
could
be
used.
J
Circling
so
driving
around
in
circles
in
a
specific
area.
Looking
for
individuals
to
engage
in
prostitution
and
contacting
and
initiating
conversation
with
them,
and
the
final
subsection
had
essentially
a
a
catch-all
that
would
allow
if
the
officer
saw
some
other
type
of
activity
that
he
felt
was
related
to
that
act.
It
could
also
be
taken
into
consideration
they're.
There
have
been
some
efforts
to
repeal
the
law
that
repealed
the
law.
J
If
that
makes
sense,
so
there's
been
quite
a
bit
of
activity
around
the
state
to
try
to
bring
back
the
section
that
was
repealed
if
I'm,
making
myself
clear
and
that
effort
is
up
and
down
the
state.
This
this
example
is
from
San
Diego.
It's
the
D.A,
Rob
bonto
was
involved
in
that
and
as
well
as
some
legislators
up
in
Northern
California
here
are
some
stats
from
the
City
of
Burbank.
J
Only
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen,
you
will
see
La
ordering
to
commit
prostitution,
which
is
the
section
that
was
repealed
in
the
last
three
years.
We
had
exactly
zero
arrests
in
the
years
before
that,
in
2018-19
and
in
20
we
had
the
arrest
that
you
see
there
for
the
loitering.
Most
of
those
arrests
were
in
and
around
hotels
and
motels,
where
there
was
activity
related
to
prostitution.
J
On
the
right
side,
you
will
see
a
simple
prostitution
arrest.
So
that's
just
your
what
you
know
is
run-of-the-mill
prostitution,
647
B
of
the
penal
code,
and
those
are
the
number
of
arrests.
The
last
bar
on
the
right
is
year
to
date
this
year,
2023
and
then
to
the
left
of
that.
Going
back
to
2018
are
the
number
of
arrests
for
prostitution
itself
and,
like
I,
said
that
penal
code,
section
is
still
active
impacts
to
the
community
of
Burbank.
J
We
really,
as
a
result
of
the
repeal
of
the
section,
have
not
seen
much
of
an
impact
here
in
Burbank,
like
I,
said,
most
of
the
arrests
going
back
a
few
years
were
related
to
activity
around
hotels
and
motels.
J
But
when
you're
in
a
Honda,
that's
silver,
just
like
everyone
else
is
driving
around
the
activity
in
other
cities,
is
really
really
busy
with
prostitution
type
activity
that
would
be
covered
under
653.22,
and
essentially
it
decriminalized
that
so
the
the
police
in
those
areas
cannot
do
anything
to
stop
what
you
know.
We
would
call
streetwalkers
from
doing
their
business
until
they
actually
have
a
violation,
which
is
an
agreement
to
conduct
the
prostitution,
and
you
can't
do
that
when
you're
not
actively
speaking
to
the
individuals
that
are
committing
the
acts.
J
What
it
does
do
here
in
Burbank
I
will
tell
you
is
that
it
causes
us
a
little
bit
of
difficulty
in
effectively
proactively
dealing
with
other
crimes
that
we
do
have,
and
here's
a
short
list
of
that
pimping,
human
trafficking,
assaults,
drug
sales,
gun
possession,
robberies
and
thefts
when
our
officers
are
dealing
or
we're
making
arrests
with,
or
contacts
related
to,
prostitution
loitering.
We
would
end
up
dealing
with
these
other
types
of
crimes
that
were
either
just
happened
about
to
happen,
or
are
gonna
happen
quite
frequently.
J
The
human
trafficking
aspect
is
I,
know
extremely
hot
button.
You
know
the
last
couple
years,
and
all
that
really
is
is
a
term
that,
where
we'll
have
women
generally
that
are
being
trafficked
in
the
sex
trade,
usually
we'll
see
them
coming
up
from
Northern
or
coming
down
from
Northern
California.
They
will
be
here
with
a
person
that
we
call
a
pimp
that
is
trafficking
them
for
the
purposes
of
prostitution,
taking
care
of
the
business
and
essentially
taking
all
or
most
of
any
proceeds
that
they
have
gotten
for
their
acts.
J
That's
what
we're
talking
about
when
we're
talking
about
the
human
trafficking.
In
this
context-
and
some
of
that
can
be
really
severe
and
it
could
bring
about
some
other
crimes
that
you
know,
don't
aren't
as
minor
as
you
might
expect
is
people
might
suggest
some
other
crimes
that
were
actually
happening,
that
we
now
kind
of
lose
a
tool
in
our
tool
bag
to
be
able
to
deal
with.
B
Oh
commissioner,
offers
on.
D
So
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
all
that
information
is
very
helpful.
I
am
not
an
expert
on
this,
this
law.
So
please,
let
me
know
if
this
is
wrong,
but
my
my
understanding
is
that
kind
of
the
idea
is
around
that.
D
Unfortunately,
many
of
the
people
that
would
be
arrested
for
this
are,
as
you
said,
kind
of
victims
themselves
right,
whether
it's
of
you
know
being
exploited
and
human
trafficking,
and
things
like
that
right,
so
an
effort
to
not
criminalize
them
as
victims
and
or
that
you
know
that
there
may
be
a
better
way
to
help
somebody
out
of
that
out
of
that
situation
versus
criminalization.
D
So
I
guess
my
question
is
and
I
don't
know
guessing
the
I
know
the
answer
to
this
this,
this
new
law
that
repealed
the
Old
Law
you
know,
is
there
any
additional
funding
or
guidance
or
resources.
D
Anything
like
that
to
to
address
you
know
the
victimization
of
of
many
sex
workers
and
or
resources
to
help
people
go
down.
You
know
go
find
A,
New,
Path
right.
J
One
of
the
major
issues
we
see
with
laws
that
come
down
from
Sacramento
is
they
will
enact
a
law
and
then
tell
local
municipalities
that
you
need
to
do
a
b
c
d,
e
and
f,
but
then
provide
no
funding
or
Direction
on
how
to
accomplish
those
things
in
this
case
I'm
not
familiar
or
privy
to
any
sort
of
funding
or
program
that
was
specifically
shared
with
municipalities
to
in.
In
regard
to
this
law
being
repealed.
J
What
I
will
tell
you
is
that
when
we
run
into
people
that
are
being
trafficked
or
being
used
in
this
fashion,
we
deal
with
them
in
a
manner
is
which
you
suggest
so
those
numbers
there.
Where
you
see,
the
arrests
may
not
indicate
some
cases
where
we
have
a
person
that
we
have
come
in
contact
with
that
they
are
being
trafficked
prostituted.
J
Our
goal
is
to
get
to
the
individual
that
is
dealing
with.
That
is
doing
the
deed
right.
So
what
the
the
law
did,
however,
was
not
allow
us
to
do
that.
So
now
we
can't
even
get
to
that
part,
because
we
don't
know
who
that
person
is
dealing
with.
We
have
no
Avenue
to
get
that
information
or
it
significantly
impacts
our
ability
to
to
gain
information
to
get
to
the
person.
J
That's
actually
prostituting
the
individuals,
but
if
we
deal
with
somebody
or
come
in
contact
with
somebody
that's
being
trafficked,
we
absolutely
will
do
not
deal
with
them
as
if
they
are
suspects.
We
deal
with
them,
we're
in
a
fashion
which
they
can
hopefully
get
some
assistance
and,
as
you
saw,
those
numbers
for
the
last
few
years
were
were
low,
where
it's
essentially.
D
Zero
sure
yeah
is
there:
is
there
a
local
or
somewhat
local,
a
non-profit
or
anything
like
that
that
you
all
sort
of
partner
with
on
these
things
and
can
refer.
J
Have
several
you
know
we
have
the
victim
advocacy
card
and
all
our
victims
get
those
cards,
and
there
is
a
number
of
resources
that
you
know:
women,
unhouse,
women
or
women
in
this
business
or
women
with
children
that
need
help.
I
mean
it's
a
laundry
list,
websites
phone
numbers.
What
have
you
so
they
would
all
get
those
information
packages
yeah.
B
Any
other
questions
well
sure,
commissioner
McKenna.
B
And
okay,
so
if
there's
no
further
questions
or
comments
from
the
other
Commissioners
Lieutenant
Del
Taco.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
I
I
know
that
I
was
the
one
that
agenda
has
decidem
and
when
I
first
saw
it
now.
The
first
thing
that
came
to
mind
was
it
wasn't
so
much
the
I
mean
I
work
with
zonta
club
Burbank
great
organization.
They
work
with
domestic
violence
cases
they
work
with.
B
You
know,
they're
big
advocates,
for
you
know
an
anti-prostitution,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
humans
are
victims
of
a
specific
lifestyle
and
that's
the
unfortunate
part.
But
for
me
it
was
more
about
understanding.
What
does
that
do
for
the
landscape
of
you
know
finding
out
who
the
perpetrators
are.
That
are
you
know
taking
advantage
of
these
women,
so
I
think
that
that's
I
mean
definitely
I.
Don't
I
would
feel
like
that
would
be
at
a
loss
for
the
for
any
Department
to
not
be
able
to
have
access
to
that
Intel.
B
But
you
know
I
just
want
to
say:
I
really
appreciate
your
presentation.
You
know
on
the
subject
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
C
E
I've
attended
Nicole
before
so
I
would
like
to
give
him
any
opportunity
to
people
who
haven't
attended,
but
based
on
my
attendance
before
I,
just
have
to
say
that
the
meeting
that
I
attended
in
Detroit
there's
a
large
contingent
of
people
from
Chicago,
and
it
got
very
heated
with
the
group
from
Chicago,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
disagreement
between
the
group
how
to
proceed
and
and
the
Chicago
Police
Department.
B
When
I
was
in
Fort,
Worth
I
wouldn't
say
it
was,
as
heated
I
mean
it
was
very
educational
I
mean
it's
not.
You
know,
you're
dealing
with
heavy
conversations
and
you're
seeing
a
lot
of
interesting
content,
but
you're
meeting
Commissioners
all
throughout
the
country
and
even
outside
the
country
that
have
different
roles.
You
know
so
being
an
advisory
body
like
we
are
we're
completely
different
than
some
of
the
Commissioners
I
met
from
Detroit
versus
New
York
versus
some
commissions
I
made
from
from
Jamaica.
B
You
know
a
lot
of
them
came
from
situations
where
the
local
police
department
wasn't
doing
Justice
and
they
had
to
kind
of
Step
In
where
but
I
mean
I
I
think
it
was
really
great.
It
was
interesting,
it
was
educational
I
think
it
was
what
I
learned
from
the
other
Commissioners
all
throughout
the
country
was
I,
think
really
vital
and
I
met
a
lot
of
wonderful
people
throughout
the
experience.
So
I
think
that
that
would
be
extremely
beneficial
for
anyone
to
go.
B
Wonderful
and
so
looks
like
commissioner
McKenna
is
interested
in
going
wonderful,
okay,
great,
so
Sherry.
Is
that
that's
it?
Oh
commissioner,.
I
H
So
this
year's
funding,
because
it's
in
Chicago
and
the
expense
associated
with
that
and
it
was
just
briefed
by
our
police
administrator.
We
really
just
have
funding
for
one
commissioner
to
go
in
the
last
couple
years.
It
was
virtual,
and
so
we
would
be
able
to
we're
able
to
get
most
of
the
Commissioners
involved.
H
So
part
of
the
discussion
of
the
staff
meeting
was
for
our
future
budgets
to
see
if
we
can
have
funding
to
increase
the
funding,
because
it's
been
the
same
funding
for
the
last
sample
of
years
to
accommodate
at
least
two
police
Commissioners
to
go.
If
it's
local,
like
we've,
had
at
Riverside
and
some
of
the
local
areas,
then
the
funding
is
not
an
issue
and
we've
been
able
to
send
staff.
Also
virtual,
we
had
a
handful
of
staff
that
participated.
Virtually
also.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
I
Do
do
our
officers
in
the
past
have
they
regularly
attended?
You
said
during
covet,
apparently
they
did
online,
but
was
there
always
just
the
commissioners.
B
E
One
thing
I
noticed
that
when
I
attended
the
entire
commissions
from
different
cities,
were
there,
everybody
I
know
that's
expensive
and
the
costs
involved.
I
was
throughout
the
objection
idea
that
maybe
possibly
we
could
forego
it
for
maybe
a
year
or
two,
so
that
a
larger
we
could
say
in
a
larger
contention
to
people.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
have
no
comments
to
make
on
this
specific,
wonderful,
okay,
so,
commissioner,
congratulations
thank
you,
and
so
now
yeah,
it's
a
learning
experience
you'll
have
fun
so
we're
gonna,
move
to
our
third
item
of
business.
Presentation
of
proposed
data
request
form
to
be
utilized
by
the
police
commission
when
requesting
information
or
data
from
the
police,
department,
discussion
and
potential
adoption
of
procedures
or
processes
for
requesting
information
or
data.
D
Okay,
thank
you
so
myself
and
commissioner
Lou
and
commissioner
Elman
we
had
been
one
of
the
tasks
of
the
data
subcommittee,
was
to
come
up
with
a
kind
of
a
workflow
or
you
know,
and
and
form
for
any
data
requests
coming
from
the
commission
to
the
department
so
that
it
can
be
streamlined,
make
sure
we
have
all
the
information
make
sure
we're
sending
it
to
the
right
person,
and
you
know
we
all
are
on
the
same
page
with
the
requests
that
are
that
we're
putting
out
there
and
why
we're
putting
them
out
there.
D
So
to
that
end,
we
have
created
this
form
which
I've
printed
out,
but
it
is
an
electronic
of
you
know,
fillable
PDF,
that
we
cannot.
We
can
you
know,
email
out
assuming
we
we
decide
to
go
forward
with
this,
but
it
is
pretty
short.
I
think
it
comes
out
to
two
pages
printed
here,
but
it's
based
on
a
conversation
that
I
had
with
Captain
kremen.
D
So,
thank
you
for
that
about
what
type
of
you
know
information
they
would
need
from
us
to
fulfill
a
data
request
and
it
you
know
kind
of
pretty
much
corresponds
to
the
the
California
public
records
act,
request
form,
and
so
there
are,
you
know,
just
little
sections
to
fill
in
for
each
of
those
pieces.
You
know
the
date
that
you're
requesting
it
the
name
of
the
person
requesting
it.
D
So
that
would
be
one
of
us
or
several
of
us
I
suppose
your
contact
information,
the
purpose
for
your
request,
the
requested
data
format
right
so
that
could
be.
Maybe
you
just
want
a
PDF.
Maybe
you
need
it
in
an
Excel
file
whatever
that
may
be,
and
then
what
type
of
data
is
actually
needed
right.
D
So
are
you
looking
at
something
where
you
need
to
know,
for
instance,
how
many
calls
for
service
there
were
by
you
know,
day
of
the
week,
or
do
you
want
to
know
where
there
were
pedestrian
traffic
injuries
or
events
happening?
Or
would
you
you
know
want
to
know
how
many
how
much
funds
were
allocated
for
specific
task
or
a
piece
of
equipment
that
the
department
has
things
like
that?
So
there's
just
some
examples
listed
here.
D
Of
course
it
doesn't
cover
everything,
but
it's
just
to
give
an
idea
of
what
types
of
things
that
that
should
be
explained
in
that
section
and
then
you
know
the
time
frame
question
is
around.
You
know.
Are
you
looking
for,
for
example,
the
presentation
tonight
was
really
helpful
and
included
the
data
from
The
Last
Five
Years.
D
Are
you
really
looking
to
see
what's
just
been
happening
this
year,
because
maybe
it's
you
know
related
to
a
particular
law
that
just
came
and
came
to
came
into
play
or
something
like
that
data
level
relates
to.
Are
you
just
looking
to
know
you
know?
D
What's
the
number
of
parking
tickets,
you
know
the
city
issued
overall
last
year,
or
are
you
looking
to
see
maybe
by
you
know,
ZIP
code
or
something
like
that
to
see
how
you
know
something
varies
by
neighborhood
of
the
city
and
then,
lastly,
you
know
requests
for
metadata.
Sorry,
that's
a
wonky
term,
but
just
means
like
you
know,
you'd
want
to
know.
If
say
you
get
a
spreadsheet
you'd
want
to
know
what
you
know.
D
What
each
column
you
know
of
the
of
the
data
represents,
or
if
there
are
just
generally
you
know,
are
there
any
data
limitations
to
be
aware
of
you
know,
for
example,
I
know
the
department
it's
working
on
transitioning,
you
know
to
kind
of
some
new
systems,
maybe
that
comes
into
play
or
a
certain
law
change
to
the
way
that
they
collect
data
around
a
given
issue
may
have
changed.
You
know
at
some
point
during
the
data
collection
or
anything.
You
know
if
there's
anything
specifically
related
to
coven
right.
D
The
department,
of
course,
had
to
adapt
policies
during
that
time.
So
again
may
impact
data
that
that
we're
requesting,
if
it's
you
know
for
the
last
five
years,
for
example,
so
that's
the
form
and
then,
of
course
you
know
you
never
know,
there's
a
spot
to
put
in
some
additional
information
there
at
the
end.
That
may
be
relevant
for
your
request.
So
it's
it's
pretty
simple,
but
it
should
cover
all
the
bases
of
of
what
the
department
needs
to
know
from
us
and
I.
D
So
that
was
a
lot
give
you
all
a
moment
to
digest,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
any
thoughts
that
folks
have.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
for
zon
for
that
presentation,
open
up
the
commissioner
discussion,
commissioner
McKenna.
C
I
think
this
is
great.
This
is
very
similar
to
what
the
email
I
think
we
got
from
Sherry
you
almost
immediately
when
I
came
on
board,
saying
that
everything
goes
through
Sherry
instead
of
just
directed
to
people.
My
only
thing
is,
and
purpose
for
data
may
be
is
saying
in
a
different
way,
but
I
was
kind
of
thinking
of
something
in
there
about
why
yeah,
you
know
yeah.
C
D
Definitely
so
it's
just
kind
of
explaining
what
what
is
our
end
goal
with
this.
You
know,
for
example,
I
want
to
see
how
you
know
year
by
year.
What
are
the
stats
on,
you
know
again
say
parking
tickets
or
something
just
you
know,
because
I
want
to
know.
You
know
what
what
does
enforcement
look
like
and
how
has
it
changed
over
the
last?
How
many
years
or.
D
I
D
E
No
I
think
it's
really
to
you,
did
a
good
job.
Thank.
D
You
well,
you
know,
with
with
you
and
Eva
together
we
pulled
it
together.
So
with
that
I
guess
you
know
it
I
think
it
would
make
sense
if
we
sure.
H
Okay,
can
I
ask
a
question:
yeah,
absolutely
sorry,
so
data
request
form
I'm,
just
gonna
go
through
sharing
Captain
kremins
they're
going
to
meet
with
me,
and
this
is
what
I'm
going
to
do.
I'm
gonna
try
to
figure
out
how
many
staff
hours
this
is
going
to
require
so
and
then
I'm
going
to
look
at
the
other
organizational
priorities
in
what
comes
first.
So
some
of
this
data
we
will
have-
and
we
don't
have
to
create
new
data.
H
But
if
there's
a
burden
on
the
organization
it
I
am
going
to
believe
that
you're
going
to
give
us
discretion
as
far
as
being
able
to
fulfill
that
request,
because,
as
we've
discussed
in
the
past,
there
was
a
request
that
took
over
15
hours,
so
15
hours
of
Staff
time
that
could
have
been
dedicated
to
something
else
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
benefit
of
the
outcome
was.
So
so
I
just
want
to
understand
purpose
so
and
that
there'll
be
some
racer
understanding
if
it
is
going
to
require
extraordinary
staff
time.
D
Yeah
definitely
and
I
think
you
know
the
purpose
of
having
one
person
or
I
guess
a
subcommittee,
but
still
there'll,
be
kind
of
one
person's
contact.
Information
is
I.
Think
to
facilitate
that.
Hopefully
you
know
back
and
forth
communication.
If
there's
clarification
or
if
there's
you
know
it
needs
to
be,
you
know,
kind
of
refined
down
to
really
with
you
know.
The
essence
is
to
make
it
a
more.
You
know
feasible
request
or
that
just
you
know
a
heads
up.
D
E
I
like
forums,
because
it's
a
paper,
trail,
yeah
and
I-
think
what
we
could
consider
at
the
end,
a
date
for
completion
with
number
of
hours
used
by
the
department.
So
we
can
kind
of
police
ourselves
on.
Are
we
asking
for
too
much
or
too
little
and
how
much
we've
we've
used
already.
E
Think
that's
part
of
the
ongoing
conversation,
but
when
something,
if
we
after
something
it's
finished,
I
think
it'd
be
nice
to
see
just
how
much
time
it
did
take
to
give
us
it's
a
way
for
us
to
track
ourselves.
I
For
the
point
that
the
chief
was
making
I'm
not
sure
if,
if
you
receive
a
request,
it
takes
time
to
develop
an
estimate
for
the
amount
of
time
that
it's
going
to
take.
But
I'm
wondering
if
that
wouldn't
be.
A
good
point
to
put
between.
Maybe
item
number.
Two
and
number
three
is
that
we
know
that
before
we
make
a
decision
on
the
commission
of
trying
to
balance
the
importance
of
the
information
versus
the
time
that
it's
taking
the
department.
D
I
guess
I'm
wondering
on
the
flip
side
of
that
you
know
some
of
the
requests
may
not
be
agreed
upon
by
the
commission.
So
then
we
may
be
asking
for
time.
Time
estimate
before
we
actually
approve
it.
So
I
don't
know
if
it
would
result
in
more
estimates
right
time,
estimates
that
don't
end
up
because
I.
So
if
I
understood
what
you're
saying
is
to
get
to
talk
with
talk
with
the
department
to
get
an
estimate
of
the
time
it
would
take
before
we
vote
on
it.
D
I
think
we
voted
not
to
do
that.
There
are
no
individual
requests,
so
it's
you
know
individual
or
subcommittee
could
initiate
this,
but
then
the
commission
would
have
to
vote
to
move
forward
with
that,
and
then
we
would
submit
it
to
the
apartment
and
they
would
come
back
and
say
yes,
no
or
yes,
if
we,
you
know
make
these
changes
to
it
or
whatever
it
is
right.
That's
my
understanding
is
that
everyone's
understanding.
I
Yeah
I'm
sure
that
the
department
was
through
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act,
get
plenty
of
requests
for
information
both
from
citizens
and
attorneys
whatever
and
I,
wouldn't
want
to
add
additional
burden.
I
If
the
information
is
not
going
to
impact
much
what
we
do
or
or
impact
our
our
perspective
of
the
policies
that
go
on
the
department,
yeah
I
think
it
would
be
worthwhile
to
anytime
that
it's
brought
to
a
vote
by
the
the
commission
is
to
have
an
idea.
If
is,
this,
is
like
a
30-minute
deal
or
is
this
a
two-day
deal?
Work
from
the
Department
I
think
that
would
be
important
to
know
before
advancing.
D
I
guess
I
would
I
would
put
that
question
back
to
you.
You
know.
So,
on
the
one
hand
you
know
we
may
vote
to
you
know
and
approve
and
send
you
all
a
request,
and
then
you
know
you
would
be
able
to
figure
out
what,
how
much
time
that
would
take,
and
then
we
either
make
some
changes
or
whatever
based
on
that
which,
as
you
mentioned
I
know,
it
does
take
time
to
even
just
kind
of
go
through
that
run
through
that
time
estimate.
D
H
Just
first
blush
in
all
of
this
is
that
either
an
individual
subcommittee
can
proffer
a
request,
but
before
it
is
forwarded
to
us,
the
entire
commission
would
have
to
approve
it.
So
I
would
prefer
that
it
is
a
approved
commissioner
request
and
then
with
an
asterisk.
Is
it
a
Time
associated
with
it?
H
Staff
will
look
at
it
to
see
what
what
it
is
and
it
and
maybe
have
great
value
for
all
of
us
that
we
hadn't
considered
before,
where
it'll
be
absolutely
worth
the
time
or
we
have
part
of
the
data
in
place
where
it's
not
going
to
be
too
difficult,
or
it's
just
going
to
be
too
much
of
a
burden.
So
that
would
probably
be
the
fourth
step
said
between
the
second
and
third.
H
As
far
as
an
evaluation
of
the
the
request
and
time
associated
with
staff
time
associated
with
that
and
how
that
looks,
because
I
think
you're
also
proffering
data
formic
still
Word
document
memo
that
takes
time.
So
what
once
you
get
the
data
in
or
lays
on
clearly
knows
that
it
it
takes
a
lot
of
hours
and
then
it's
got
to
be
formatted.
H
There's
a
review
process
so
that
the
product
that
is
introduced
to
the
commission
is
professional
because
it's
also
going
to
be
introduced
to
the
public
so
there's
time
associated
with
that.
Absolutely
so
the
nothing
takes
15
minutes
right
and
nothing
takes
45
minutes.
It's
going
to
take
more
time.
Yeah.
D
C
Yeah,
you
know
exactly
so
I
hear
you
I.
Think.
The
key
word,
though,
is
request.
You
know,
and
and
so
if
it's
something
that's
feasible
and
it's
manageable,
then
it
happens
and
if
it's
not
we're
told
why
that's
all
I
think
the
most
request
it
because
I
there's
been
absolutely
no
evidence
of
the
police
bar
not
being
as
Cooperative
as
possible,
so
we're
on
that.
Keep
it
in
a
positive
light.
D
Just
just
to
clarify
that
that
conversation
around
the
the
order,
the
sequencing
of
this
so
it
sounds
like
you-
would
prefer
for
us
to
approve
the
request
before
we
we
share
with
the
department
and
get
that
kind
of
feasibility
and
time.
H
B
Wonderful,
thank
you.
So
thank
you
so
much,
commissioner
farzan.
So
what
I
was
wondering
is?
Do
we
want
to
write
a
note
that
says,
like
you
know,
no,
like
data
request,
time
is
determined
based
on
et
cetera
Etc.
Just
to
because
again,
if
it's
gonna
be
official
document,
do
we
want
to
be
a
little
more
detailed
when
it
comes
to
that?
Is
that
necessary
at
all.
D
I,
don't
know
you
know
I
I,
you
know
I,
guess
we
could
explicitly
say
you
know.
The
request
is
subject
to
you
know.
I
I
I
think
it's
kind
of
implicit.
You.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
and
so
do
we
want
to
take
a
vote
on
adopting
this.
The
data
River
question.
I
I'd
maybe
like
go
back
to
our
discussion,
a
little
bit.
Sure
that's
okay,
and
maybe
this
is
our
representative
from
the
city.
How
are
you
guys,
I'm,
sorry,
I,
don't
know
your
name.
I
To
see
you
this
evening
in
our
Charter,
we
have
the
ability
to
do
research
and
collect
information.
However,
we
don't
have
any
budget
and
I'm
not
sure
how
much
we
can
incur
costs
to
the
city.
Is
there
any
limitations
there.
K
The
limitations
of
the
budget
all
would
be
within
the
adopted
budget,
and
so
I
mean
I
would
I
would
definitely
yield
to
the
police
department's
budgetary
constraints.
I,
don't
know
what
those
are
exactly
and
if
this
is
necessarily
a
line
item,
but
generally,
if
we're
talking
about
Staffing
hours,
you
know
we're
we're
subject
to
the
individual
Department's
priorities.
K
Like
a
staff
resource
issue,
beyond
that,
it
could
be
formatting
costs,
some
of
the
kind
of
just
administrative
tasks
costs
that
can
come
with
it.
K
D
Okay,
I
make
a
motion
to
to
adopt
or
approve
the
Burbank
police.
Commission
data
request
form.
B
Ation
for
Zone
motions
commissioner
McKenna
seconds
and
take
a
vote
for
everyone
hi.
Everyone
agrees
wonderful!
Thank
you.
So
much
for
that,
and
now
we're
going
to
move
over
to
our
fourth
item
discussion,
discussion
in
action.
If
any
of
the
police
commission
annual
stuff
review
from
the
calendar
dashboard
chair
comes
so
he
can't
be
here
tonight,
but
I'm
going
to
be
reviewing
the
report
that
he
sent
to
our
Liaisons
at
city
council
and
copy
the
police
chief
on
it's
a
report.
B
As
of
September
2022
Joint
City,
Council
police,
commission
meeting
I'm
just
reading
this
off
of
what
church
homes
provided
I'm
pleased
to
present
to
you.
The
second
second
quarterly
commission
sheriff's
report
to
Kenneth
Council
liaison
during
the
past
four
police
commission
meetings
held
in
February,
March,
April
and
May
of
2023.
B
The
commission
addressed
the
following
subjects:
the
use
of
tasers
and
policy
number
309
special
Community
engagement
meeting
regarding
military
equipment
report,
followed
by
discussion
by
Commissioners
during
regular
meeting
pedestrian
safety
and
ad
hoc
committee
data
and
statistics
add-on
committee
subcommittee
homeless,
count
right
along
followed
by
discussion
on
homeless,
Engagement,
review
of
a
decision
making
process
for
police,
commission,
pedestrian
safety
and
vision,
zero,
racial
identity,
profiling
act,
Ripa,
Advisory,
board
report,
equity
and
hiring
the
school
resource
officer
program,
AB
742
and
the
use
of
canine
units
requests
for
business
cards
fall
under
newly
established
procedure
for
all
commissions
and
Boards.
A
C
Commission
member
did
attend
the
conference
and
and
also
there's
been,
as
I
pointed
out,
over
20
hours
of
of
training
that
took
place
online
since
then,
that
a
lot
of
our
commissioners
have
participated
in.
B
Wonderful,
okay:
we
can
go
and
definitely
add
to
that
any
other
items
that
may
be
missing.
I
I
If
this
is
exactly
part
of
the
calendar
word,
if,
if
it's
the
agenda,
maybe
the
inclusion
of
the
Tuesday
night
out
and
the
police
fired
a
participation
so.
B
Wonderful,
we
can
go
definitely
out
to
that
and
anything
else
that
we
may
be
missing.
B
Wonderful,
so
so
Sherry,
just
just
out
of
curiosity.
So
since
I
was
asked
to
read
the
support,
is
there
any
additional
actions
that
we
need
to
take
on
this
or
just
the
items
that
just
requested
to
be
added
to
the
report?.
B
B
H
A
couple
things
to
report
out
on
it
then
I'll
follow
up
with
the
answer
from
Mr
Donahue.
H
So
first
I
was
remiss
and
not
introducing
Ian
McMillan
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
so
I
apologize
for
that,
but
he's
one
of
our
senior
senior
assistant,
City
attorney,
so
so
far
he's
doing
a
fine
job.
So
a
couple
things
to
report
out
August
1st
will
be
National.
Night
Out
it'll
go
from
5
30
to
7
30
and,
as
you
recall,
it
started.
Johnny
Carson,
Park
there'll
be
other
homes
that
will
be
hosting
we'll
have
a
list
of
those
moving
forward.
H
But
what
is
most
notable
will
be
in
September.
September
26th
will
be
the
joint
session
with
City
Council,
so
that
will
be
our
September
meeting.
That
will
be
a
joint
session
where
we'll
review
the
oir
report
office
of
independent
review.
H
There
is
a
draft
that
is
being
reviewed
right
now,
there's
a
number
of
steps
during
the
review
process
and
ultimately
you
will
be
given
the
final
version
and
hopefully
our
responses
before
September
26th.
H
Any
questions
on
oir
and
Joint
session
with
city
council,
so
I'm
going
to
do
what
I
hate
doing
is
reading
to
folks,
but
this
is
so
confusing
as
far
as
the
e-bikes.
H
So
whoever
brought
up
the
e-bikes
and
created
Created
that
it
is
a
learning
curve
for
me,
because
everybody
knows
I
like
to
play
poker.
But
I've
lost
a
lot
of
money
on
this.
One
I
thought
they
were
supposed
to
be
off
the
sidewalks,
but
there's
three
classes
of
e-bikes
there's
a
class
one.
Two
and
three
did
not
know
that,
so
you
have
pedal,
assisted,
throttle,
independent
and
then
pedal
assisted
motor
and
that
one
can
go
up
to
28
miles
an
hour.
So
for
a
class
three
they
cannot
be
on
the
sidewalk.
H
So
the
bottom
line
is
that
you
may
ride
an
electric
bike
on
the
sidewalk
in
California.
If
you
could
do
so
with
a
regular
bicycle.
So
that's
the
bottom
line.
There's
nothing
Statewide
prohibiting
bicycles
on
the
sidewalk.
However,
a
local
ordinance
could
govern
or
modify
that
in
in
the
region.
So
hopefully
that
helps
for
Mr
Donahue.
For
the
commission,
it
was
a
tutorial
for
me
and
for
the
folks
that
are
watching
maybe
some
insight
as
far
as
e-bikes,
so
the
Reader's
Digest
version.
B
K
I
joined
the
city
in
September,
2019.
I'm,
aware
that
I
believe
it
was
June
or
July
of
2019.
Council
was
presented
a
agenda
item
from
the
Transportation
division
of
CDD
Community
department
on
potentially
allowing
e-bikes
and
e-scooters.
They
voted
to
prohibit
those
devices
for
the
gentleman
of
the
public.
I
just
have
the
item
up
here.
I
was
trying
to
look
for
this
whole
meeting,
couldn't
find
it
because
I
was
searching,
scooters
and
bikes.
It's
under
shared
use,
Mobility
devices
so
there's
a
whole
Agenda
Report,
it's
from
June
25th
2019.
excuse.
C
Me
sir
I
was
on
the
commission
at
the
time
that
was
basically
a
presentation
by
Metro
for
the
the
scooters
and
the
e-bikes
and
things
of
nature,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
city
sent
me
to
a
six-week
program
to
learn
how
good
all
these
things
were,
but
and
I
remember
at
the
time
that
the
bike
path
was
important.
But
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
was
and
I
believe
was.
The
company
was
called
bird.
We
were
talking
about
scooters
that
had
seats
like
in
Hollywood,
you
see
in
Hollywood.
C
I
see
them
left
there,
which
means
they're
being
used
appropriately,
they're
coming
to
a
job
and
they're
leaving
them,
but
that
that
discussion,
if
I'm
correct
sir,
was
whether
or
not
we
were
going
to
adopt
them
as
a
policy
in
our
city.
Correct,
not
whether
or
not
not
what
the
law
was
when,
if
you
personally
owned.
C
Like
I
said
the
the
at
the
time,
though
it
was
more
of
a
I,
may
be
stating
this
improperly,
but
it
was
like
a
vendor
was
approaching
the
city
and
asking
for
our
support
and
when
we
looked
at
it
we
and
was-
and
it
was
primarily
scooters
it
wasn't.
The
bikes
at
the
time
and
and
I
know
that
we
voted
it
down.
E
It
seems
if
it's
a
quandary,
because
he
looked
somebody
riding
the
bike
on
the
sidewalk.
How
do
you
recognize
a
class
three
from
the
other
classes?
It.
E
They're
all
motorized,
every
one
of
them,
it's
just
a
matter
of
the
applications
and
the
limitations
that
are
built
into
it.
C
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
I'm,
a
big
guy
and
mine,
goes
35
miles
an
hour
on
the
channel
the
bike
path,
if
I'm,
not
if
I'm
not
paying
attention.
If
I
have
my
phone
in
front
of
me
with
the
speed
I'm,
not
I,
I
can
easily
be
going.
35.
I
have
to
be
very
careful.
K
Did
a
quick
search
on
city
council
if
you
want
to
find
the
last
item
that
was
presented
to
council
June,
25th
2019
is
a
staff
report
and
then
you'll
see
minutes
there
about
any
actions
that
were
taken
from
the
council.
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
If
any
future
agenda
items
like
no
no
I
opened
a
can
of
worms
so,
but
that
that's
it.
B
Thank
you
so
much
Ian
and
wonderful.
So
now
we're
going
to
move
on
to
introduction
of
agenda
items
for
future
meetings.
Currently
pending
from
previously
items,
we
have
the
discussion
of
the
Ripper
report
recommendations.
We
have
the
update
on
the
ab2
2147
Friedman
walk
act.
The
Burbank
police
department
in
the
city
is
2035
General
plan
and
we
also
have
we
have
our
calendar.
Our
annual
candle
that
we've
presented
I,
don't
know
that
in
our
earlier
discussions.
B
Do
we
want
to,
or
so
what
we
have
is,
let's
see
for
the
month
of
June,
so
we
pretty
much
fulfilled
our
entire
annual
calendar
from
2022.,
so
we
have
nothing
for
the
for
the
next
year
and
do
we
want
to
well
no
I
think
that
do
we
want
to
for
the
calendar
we
would
create
that
out
of
the
future
commission
meeting.
Is
that
correct
have
a
discussion
correct,
so
what
we
can
do
is
well,
first
of
all,
let's
start
off
with
the
gender
items
see
if
anyone
has
any
suggestions.
D
There
was
no
date
attached
right,
so
you
know
we
could
discuss
I'm,
not
sure
if
enough
time
has
passed
for
the
freedom
to
walk
act,
I
think
we
were
kind
of
waiting
on
that
for
some
time
to
pass
before
kind
of
going
back
to
that
topic,
but
as
far
as
the
creating
sort
of
a
list
of
topics
in
the
Ripper
report
to
cover
right
so
just
kind
of
maybe
you
know,
come
up
with
a
list
of
topics
that
we
want
to
cover
and
then
sort
of
put
them
in
some
sort
of
order,
and
they
would
be
agendized.
C
And
with
the
fact
that
our
joint
meeting
I
was
going
to
suggest
in
September
that
we
have
a
presentation
on
what
was
done
as
school
opened,
but
maybe
that'd
be
something
we
look
at
for
August
would
be
too
early
because
school
will
have
just
opened,
so
maybe
by
October.
We
could
request
a
report
both
from
our
subcommittee
and
from
the
Traffic
Division
on
what
was
done
to
accommodate
the
schools
that
requested
help
and
things.
C
My
experience
at
being
a
parent
dropping
off
and
having
a
wife
to
teach
at
elementary
school
is
that
the
first
two
weeks
of
school
are
just
the
most
important
first
establishing
patterns
the
rest
of
the
year
and
I.
Think
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
talk
about
success
rate.
C
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we,
sometime
up
in
October,
meeting,
that
we
have
a
report
on
the
the
school
safety
subcommittee
and
how
the
traffic
division
handled
the
first
couple
weeks
of
school.
A
B
D
C
I
I
would
just
say
it
made
Motion.
In
the
October
meeting.
We
have
a
combination
report
committing
report
from
the
school
Safety
Committee.
That
was
a
subcommittee
and
any
follow-up
from
the
police
department's
Traffic
Division
on
what
was
done
and
how
the
first
two
weeks
of
school
went.
A
B
I
I
You
still
shopping.
Are
we
looking
for
any
other
agenda
items
Editions
and
I'm
wondering
if,
since
the
keg
got
opened
the
keg
of
Peace,
by
the
way,
if
we
couldn't
discuss
these
bicycles
on
sidewalks
at
some
point,
because
that
I
could
see
that
impacting
the
police
have
limited.
I
Options
when
someone
is
maybe
heard
or
something
on
the
sidewalk,
they
can't
they
can't
protect
the
public
and
it
might
be
worth
just
knowing
a
little
bit
more
information
about
it.
So.
E
I
E
I
I'm
in
agreement
in
that
direction,
the
city
spends
millions
of
dollars
on
engineering
and
design
studies
of
Roads,
but
if
the
sidewalks
they're
not
engineered,
there
should
be
some
type
of
regulation
or
just
a
study
of
what
happens.
I
would
like
to
know
if
we've
ever
had
collisions
of
pedestrians
and
and
bikes.
If
it
is
a
problem
or
not,.
H
So
it's
gonna
be
an
excellent
topic.
So
perhaps
something
like
this
is
that
a
presentation
related
to
bicycle
and
e-bicycle
safety
and
vehicle
codes
associated
with
those
bikes
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
starting
point
for
discussion
to
see
what
can
be
added
or
needed
as
it
relates
to
e-bikes.
Now,
to
be
perfectly
honest:
I'm
not
conversing
with
e-bike.
It
was
clear
tonight.
H
So
if,
if,
if
I'm,
not
there's
a
lot
of
other
folks
that
aren't
either-
and
maybe
this
would
be,
the
first
step
is
providing
that
educational
informational
package.
D
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
say
it
would
be
really
helpful
and
I.
Think,
as
you
know,
maybe
it
makes
sense
as
a
Next
Step
versus
doing
it.
You
know
preparing
at
the
same
time,
for
us
to
potentially
have
for
either
have
one
person
or
have
a
subcommittee
do
some
research,
maybe
again
after
that
presentation
around
other
cities,
maybe
that
do
have
ordinances.
D
It
sounds
like
there
is
no
Statewide
ordinance
so
look
into
what
other
cities
have
are
doing
and
if
there's
any
you
know
good
examples
or
or
examples
to
stay
away
from
perhaps
but
I
think
there'll
need
to
be
some
research
on
our
end
before
we
can
get
to
the
kind
of
discussion
or
recommendation.
C
And
at
the
risk
of
overly
getting
in
the
weeds,
I
I
know:
there's
laws
I
mean
if
you're
driving
a
golf
cart
below
15
miles
an
hour
or
something
it
doesn't
need
a
license.
Plate
I,
don't
know
whether
the
laws
have
to
do
with
speed
or
or
power,
but
these
vehicles
do
exceed
25
miles
an
hour
and
need
to
be
looked
upon
as
a
vehicle,
not
as
a
recreational
Toy.
I
Yeah
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
add
to
the
agenda
a
presentation
from
the
Department
on
all
levels
of
bicycles,
pedal
included
and
especially
in
relationship
to
their
to
sidewalk
use
or
public
walk.
We.
E
I
was,
can
we
just
say
all
motorized
vehicles
on
sidewalks.
H
Clarity,
a
bicycle
is
not
a
motorized
vehicle
and
and
I
and
I
believe
that
you
also
were
interested
in
some
data
as
far
as
bike
safety,
so
I
I
believe
that
can
be
wrapped
up.
It's
going
to
be
a
long
presentation,
but
so
for
the
viewer
and
for
the
commission
there's
kind
of
a
storyboard,
it's
kind
of
like
you
crawl.
Then
you
walk.
Then
you
ran
as
far
as
the
the
bike
to
where
we
are
now
so
so.
H
Okay,
okay
I
did
Clarity
because
when
we
stat
this
out,
there's
a
PowerPoint
that's
going
to
be
built
on
this
as
far
as
bicycle
and
other
motorized
devices,
and
also
some
data
as
it
relates
to
accidents
and
safety,
and
all
of
that.
E
H
I
believe
daily,
so
our
canine
folks,
you
know
it's
an
alarm
if
the
vehicle
goes
off,
the
air
conditioning
goes
off.
It's
a
what's.
It
called
dog
here
that
there's
some
really
clever
name
for
a
doggy
alert.
What.
H
Like
that
and
and
our
our
folks,
you
know
we
have
two
canine
units
are
pretty
attentive
to
their
to
their
animals,
so
a
a
somewhat
familiar
with
what
occurred
in
Atlanta,
so
for
training,
where
they're
deployed
long
periods
of
time
sitting
in
a
car
waiting
for
deployment
waiting
for
training.
L
And
I'm
just
going
to
to
back
that
up,
so
the
the
systems
are
function
checked
daily
when
the
officers
are
they're.
L
Looking
for
the
green
lights
to
be
on
also,
when
the
car
is
unattended,
they
have
an
alarm
that
is
on
their
bot
on
their
person
that,
if
things
shut
down
this
I'm
shooting
from
the
hip
I
believe
it's
called
the
hot
dog
system,
which
is
a
play
on
words,
but
it
will
sound
an
audible
alarm
from
the
vehicle
with
horn,
but
it
also
sends
them
a
a
notice
to
their
to
their
person
that
hey
your
car
has
shut
down.
You
need
to
go
check
on
the
dog,
yes
yeah.
L
If
the
internal
temperature
reaches
a
certain
a
certain
level,
it
gives
them
a
notice
so
that
they're,
if
they're
away
from
the
vehicle,
which
happens,
though
the
vehicle
will
be
parked
somewhere
and
they're
inside
taking
care
of
something
if
the
vehicle
shuts
down
they'll
get
the
notice.
B
Thank
you,
everyone.
What
I
would
like
to
gendize
for
our
August
meeting
is
since
we've
already
fulfilled
our
annual
calendar,
and
we
have
nothing
for
the
rest
of
next
year
going
to
2024
again
there's
a
this
for
the
month
of
August.
Was
there
I
believe
that
we're
gonna
have
a
new
slate
of
Commissioners
to
discuss
topics
that
we
can
discuss
for
the
rest
of
the
rest
of
next
year?.
B
B
And
if
there's
no
other
items
for
future
meetings,
I
will
join
a
join
this
meeting.
Our
next
meeting
date
will
be
on
July
19,
2023,
6
PM
in
the
city
council
chambers,
and
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Everyone.