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Board of Adjustment March 14, 2023
A
A
At
this
meeting,
I'll
be
presiding
as
chair
of
the
board
for
those
of
you
that
have
not
been
with
us
before
the
board
of
adjustment
is
appointed
by
the
city
council.
The
extra
territorial
jurisdiction
members
are
appointed
by
the
County
Commissioners
appeals
from
the
decision
of
his
board
may
be
taken
to
a
superior
court,
I'd
like
to
begin
by
asking
staff
to
take
roll
call
to
make
a
determination
of
corn.
The
Quorum
requires
at
least
four
members
to
be
present.
One
called
upon
members.
Please
respond
in
the
affirmative,
Mr
Almeida.
A
A
A
A
All
in
favor
of
proven
minutes,
so
all
right
next
on
our
agenda
is
subdivision
variance
23-02.
As
a
reminder,
a
concurring
vote
of
four-fifths
of
the
board
of
adjustment
shall
be
necessary
to
Grant
a
zoning
subdivision
variance.
This
hearing
is
a
quasi-judicial
evidentiary
hearing.
That
means
it
is
like
a
court
hearing.
State
law
assists
specific
procedures
and
rules
concerning
how.
A
These
rules
are
different
from
other
types
of
land
use
decisions
like
rezoning
cases.
The
parties
to
these
hearings
have
the
right
to
a
fair
and
impartial
proceeding,
including
no
conflicts
of
interest
by
the
board
members
and
no
EX
parts,
a
Communications
by
the
decision
makers
with
parties
or
Witnesses
at
this
time
are
there
any
conflicts
of
interest
for
any
board
member,
or
have
there
been
any
ex
parte
Communications
with
parties
or
Witnesses,
and
I
would
like
to
disclose
that
I
did
do
about
a
five
minute
site
visit
I.
A
B
A
Same
thing,
anyone
have
any
objections
to
to
Mr
Glenn
or
myself.
There's
a
lot
of
things.
Okay,
moving
right
along
the
board's
discretion
in
these
hearings
is
limited.
The
board
must
base
its
decision
upon
confident,
relevant
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record.
The
applicant
has
the
burden
of
production
of
evidence
a.
A
Is
not
a
popularity
contest,
it
is
a
decision
constrained
by
the
standards
in
the
ordinance
and
based
on
the
facts.
Presentation
at
the
conclusion
of
the
hearing.
The
board
may
deny
the
variance
approve
the
variance
as
requested
or
approve
the
variance
with
conditions
councilman
board
Francis
raspberry.
If
you
have
any.
F
Otherwise,
as
you
all
aware,
the
conversations
require
law
to
be
reduced
to
writing
in
the
form
of
finding
stuff
and
the
decision.
The
decision
may
be
to
deny
the
application
for
variants
to
approve
or
to
Improvement
conditions,
as
has
just
been
mentioned
chair,
our
goal
is
to
assist
the
board
in
any
way.
I
can
if
at
any
point
in
the
process,
particularly
during
deliberations,
do
you
have
any
questions
concerning
applying
lots
of
the
facts
which
the
evidence?
F
That's
often
the
case
just
I'm
here
to
try
to
help
if
I
try
not
to
intrude
into
the
process
unless
there's
something
to
feel
Justified.
As
my
speaking
out,
the
object
is
to
keep
the
record
as
clean
and
not
vulnerable
to
being
reversed
on
PO
as
possible.
Us
that's
the
goal
and
to
try
to
help
in
that
process.
F
A
You
if
anyone
wishes
to
speak
as
a
witness,
please
focus
on
the
facts
and
standards,
not
personal
preference
or
opinion
for
certain
topics.
This
Board
needs
to
hear
opinion
testimony
from
expert
Witnesses
individuals
providing
expert
opinion
must
be
qualified
as
experts
and
provide
the
factual
evidence
on
initially
basis
or
expert
opinion.
A
This
hearing
is
being
video
recorded
when
you
speak,
please
speak
clearly
and
loudly,
so
the
microphones
can
capture
your
voice.
I.
Ask
that
all
the
individuals
who
are
not
testifying
or
being
quiet.
It
is
extremely
difficult
to
discern
voices
heard
on
the
recording
When
more
than
one
person
is
speaking
at
a
time.
All
Witnesses
must
state
your
name
and
must
swear
or
affirm
their
testimony.
At
this
time
we
will
administer
the
oath
for
all
individuals
who
intend
to
provide
witness
testimony,
so
those
that
will
be
doing
so.
Please
raise
your
right
hand.
A
J
4.5
Point
F
0.11.8,
Point
II
regarding
fence,
height
and
fence,
height
measurement,
in
order
to
construct
a
new
fence
number
one:
Edo
section:
4.5,
Point,
f,
0.11
.8
point
I
to
allow
a
six
foot
high
fence,
where
only
a
four
foot
high
fence
between
the
front
of
the
sideline
of
the
building
and
a
lot
line,
abutting
a
street
right
of
way
and
between
the
building
setback
line
and
a
lot
line
about
a
budding.
The
street
right
of
the
way
would
be
allowed.
J
Two
Udo
section:
4.5,
Point,
F
0.11.8,
point
I
I
to
allow
a
fence
height
to
be
measured
from
the
finished
grade,
where
it
is
required
that
fits
height
be
determined
along
the
grade
of
the
adjacent
block
or
Street.
The
Udo
section,
8.3
Point
P
point
one
point:
a
following:
press:
post
application:
submittal
discussions
with
staff
that
was
determined
that
there
was
not
an
existing
public
easement
along
the
property
line.
J
Attachment
one
is
a
smartgov
application.
Attachment
2
is
an
aerial
map.
Attachment
3
is
a
future
land
use
map
attachment
4
is
the
existing
Zone
attachment.
Five,
the
applicant
supplemental
materials
with
flight
plan
and
rendering
attachment
6
flat
hook.
5
page
three
attachment
7
UVO
excerpts
profess
Heights,
an
updated
site
plan
was
received
on
Friday
March
3rd
2023
and
was
provided
to
the
board
electronically
on
Tuesday
March
7th
2023.
J
March
14
2023,
Bolton,
Conway,
twin
post,
topographical
survey,
in
addition
to
the
packing
March
14
2023,
2521,
Pine,
Way,
Drive
safety
study,
final
addition
to
packet
and
then
the
March
14th
2023,
2521
Pine
Way
get
those
Burgers
security
report
addition
to
packing
I'm.
Sorry
I
didn't
have
that
in
mind
a
little
nuts
here
this
all
came
through
yesterday.
Yes,
Excuse
me,
yes,
an
additional
copy
of
the
package,
or
is
that
something
that
the
applicant
will
be
providing
for.
A
A
E
E
E
And
I'm,
a
lawyer
at
the
current
Law
Firm
I'm
here
in
Burlington,
we're
right
across
the
street
located
at
522
South
Lexington
Avenue.
It's
my
pleasure
to
be
here
before
you
this
morning
representing
the
applicant
for
Mr
Douglas
boatler.
He
is
the
owner
of
the
subject:
property
located
at
2521
Pineway
Drive
here
in
Burlington,
and
that
is
parcel
number
116121.
E
E
E
This
morning's
Gathering
only
received
positive
feedback
didn't
receive
any
objections
didn't
receive
any
questions.
Mr
David
Pinson
across
the
street
across
Saddlebrook
or
Saddle
Club,
was
encouraging
of
the
request
felt
like
it
was
most
appropriate.
I
know
that's
anecdotal,
but
I
didn't
want
that
on
the
record
before
you
worth
of
commentary
and
no
questions
or
concerns
in
response
to
that
neighbor
Outreach
I
did
hand
out
to
you
all
a
packet
of
materials
as
I
noted
and
I'd
like
to
refer
to
them.
E
E
It's
in
a
larger
format,
I'm
going
to
refer
to
that
as
applicants
exhibit
fee.
There's
another
copy
of
the
traffic
safety
study,
which
was
in
the
staff's
agenda
packet
I'm,
going
to
refer
to
that.
As
the
traffic
study
for
applicants,
Exhibit,
C,
there's
a
two-page
front
and
back
security
assessment.
Also
in
the
agenda
packet
I'm
going
to
refer
to
that
as
applicables,
the
exhibit
the
D
or
the
security
assessment.
E
E
E
In
short,
what
we're
requesting
or
what
Mr
Burgers
requesting
is
to
be
able
to
construct
a
perimeter
fence
up
portion
of
it
out
of
solid
break,
a
portion
of
it
out
of
wrought
iron
or
either
a
combination
of
wrought
iron
and
solid
brick
that
measures
a
height
of
six
feet.
All
the
way
around
the
point
of
measurement
will
be
the
center
line
of
the
adjoining
roads.
E
E
E
This
is
the
old
version
of
the
site
plan,
but
what
you
have
in
your
packet,
the
site
plan
you
have
in
your
packet
shows
that
the
proposed
defense
is
going
to
be
right
at
the
25
foot
off
of
the
property
line,
so
we'd
like
to
we're
requesting
that
we
be
able
to
measure
the
height
of
the
fence
from
the
grade
of
the
lot
and
not
the
center
line
of
the
road
I
would
make
a
note
that
the
building
setback
for
this
lot
is
actually
25
feet.
So
we're
right
on
the
building
setback
line.
E
If
we
were
to
back
up
a
foot
we'd
be
within
the
building
setback
line.
My
understanding
is
that
the
ordinance
would
allow
us
to
measure
from
the
grade
of
the
lot
if
we
were
to
back
back
with
the
wall
up
just
a
measure
measurable
amount,
but
we've
already
backed
it
up
from
the
initial
request
and
we're
at
25
feet,
and
so
that's
the
that's
the
gist
of
the
requests
we're
asking.
E
E
You
can
see
here
that,
because
the
property
is
surrounded
on
three
sides
by
roads,
that
it
is
only
entitled
to
a
reduced
Wall
height
in
the
rear
and
then
so
long
as
the
wall
is
within
the
building
set
back
along
Saddle
Club
Road.
Here
it's
only
allowed
four
feet
in
height.
I
would
contrast
this
to
the
next
door
neighboring
house,
which
is
insulated.
It's
bordered
on
two
three
sides
by
other
residences.
E
It's
just
next
door
same
neighborhood,
you
know
roughly
a
hundred
feet
from
the
same
intersection
and
it
would
be
entitled
to
eight
foot
fences
all
the
way
around
the
entire
perimeter.
Until
you
get
the
front
of
the
house,
that
would
be
limited
to
four
feet
tall
here
you
get
spotty
sections
of
eight
foot
fence.
This.
E
Permitted
if
it's
built
within
the
building
set
back-
and
you
can
see
that
what
the
applicant
is
trying
to
achieve
here-
is
to
close
off
this
driveway
from
Shadow
Brook
and
install
a
wraparound
Drive,
which
is
prohibitive
of
the
same
feed.
So
we're
relegated
to
four
feet
along
Saddle,
Club,
Highway
and
even
some
of
the
adjoining
enjoying
property
to
the
South.
E
The
other
condition
is
that
the
applicant
is
willing
and
is
offering
to
close
off
this
driveway
access
to
the
property,
which
is
in
close
proximity
to
the
signalized
intersection
of
Shadowbrook
Drive
and
Saddle
Club
Road.
This
would
be
closed
off.
The
applicant
would
instill
a
new
curving
gutter
inside
the
saw
the
grass
there
so
that
the
wall
would
be
put
in
and
a
safer,
more
appropriate
exclusive
entry
and
wrap
around
drive
from
Pine
weight
would
be
put
in.
It
would
be
better
for
the
traffic
on
shatter
broke.
E
Section
so
it
will
either
be
exclusively
wrought
iron
or
a
combination
of
wrought
iron
and
Masonry.
Initially,
we
were
thinking,
it
would
just
be
exclusively
wrought.
Iron
in
the
fence
area
have
had
some
conversation
about
the
architectural
character,
which
is
an
element
of
the
fence
and
wall
ordinance
and
felt
like
perhaps
incorporating
a
brick
component
into
the
design
would
be
more
appropriate,
but
that's
a
condition.
E
What
you're
going
to
see
when
you
look
at
your
site
plan,
as
we've
already
discussed
in
the
front?
The
setbacks
are
going
to
be
consistent
with
the
setbacks
you
see
in
the
site
plan.
Initially
the
site
plan
we
submitted,
the
fence
along
the
highway,
was
20
feet
off
the
property
line
and
about
25
and
a
half
feet
off
the
edge
of
the
pavement
of
Pineway
Drive,
based
on
staff
feedback
and
I
think
primarily
for
loading
space.
E
We've
further
retracted
the
Pineway
section
of
the
fence
and
wall,
so
that
it's
now
20
feet,
25
feet
off
of
the
property
line,
which,
as
I
noted,
is
that
building
setback
line
and
about
32
feet
off
of
the
edge
of
pavement.
So
a
significantly
set
back
off
of
the
road
and
this
results
in
sightness.
That's
trying!
Well
almost
no
sight
distance
triangle,
we've
eliminated
I
think
altogether
any
instruction
at
the
intersection
of
site
obstruction
at
the
intersection
of
Highway
and
Saddle
Club.
E
E
So
what
do
we
need
to
show
to
Merit
this
ordinance,
North
Carolina,
General
statute,
160
B,
705,
reads:
705d
reads
as
follows:
when
unnecessary
hardships
would
result
from
carrying
out
the
strict
letter
of
a
zoning
regulation,
the
board
of
adjustments
shall
vary
any
of
the
provisions
of
the
zoning
regulation
upon
a
showing
of
all
the
following
shall
vary
so
that's
compulsive.
So
if
we
show
that
these
elements
are
met,
you're
compelled
to
Grant
the
variance-
and
here
are
the
elements.
First,
an
unnecessary
hardship
would
result
from
the
strict
application
of
the
regulation.
E
E
E
E
E
G
E
E
I
would
object
to
that
element.
I
think
we're
going
to
satisfy
it.
I'm
not
going
to
make
an
issue
of
it,
but
I
do
want
the
record
to
reflect
that.
I
believe
that
this
element
conflicts
with
the
first
requirement
that
states
it
shall
not
be
necessary
to
demonstrate
that
without
the
various
kind
of
reasonable
use
can
be
made.
K
K
E
Them
that
order
yes
and
Miss
Hamlin
I,
understand
what
you're
saying
and
where
that
comes
from,
and
the
authority
to
attach
conditions
and
I
think
that
the
ability
to
attach
conditions
speaks
to
the
fourth
requirement
that
is
consistent
and
that
it
that
is
consistent
with
the
spirit,
intent
and
character
of
the
ordinance
I,
and
to
that
effect,
I
wanted
to
put
this
on
the
record.
I,
don't
think
that
the
city's
requirement,
number
four
will
be
at
issue:
I.
Think
that
there's
going
to
be
evidence
to
satisfy
that.
E
E
E
To
accommodate
the
mitigation
of
that
driveway
issue
and
then,
in
spite
of
these
challenges,
you've
got
an
ordinance
that
is
more
restrictive
on
fence
and
Wall
height
for
this
property,
by
virtue
of
the
fact
that
it's
joined
in
the
rear
or
to
the
east
by
right
of
way
and
on
the
side.
In
addition
to,
on
the
front
it's
more
restrictive,
the
ordinance
is
of
this
property
than
it
is
of
the
next
door,
property,
which
has
the
protection
of
two
lots
on
either
side
and
a
lot
on
the
rear.
E
So
where
this
property
is
exposed
to
a
number
of
factors
that
would
warrant
greater
protection,
it
in
fact
receives
less
and
then
you've
got
aesthetic
challenges
which
come
into
play
if
that
fencer
wall
or
to
be
constructed.
According
to
these
hype
requirements,
in
order
to
maximize
the
Privacy,
secure
and
security
protection,
you're
going
to
give
up,
aesthetic.
E
E
E
E
E
G
E
It's
a
little
bit
harder
to
see,
but
significantly
more
built
out
29
years
later,
but
you've
still
got
Saddle
Club
a
narrow
Drive.
It
comes
around
the
Edgewood.
Here's,
the
gasket,
here's
the
property.
The
house
is
there
now
there's
no
Shadow
Brook
Drive
and
you
can
barely
see
that
The
house's
driveway
enters
into
Sound
Club.
There.
E
E
Since
then,
really
nothing's
changed.
The
driveway
still
exists
as
it
did
at
that
time.
Here's
an
aerial
now,
Saddle,
Club
Drive,
hasn't
been
improved.
It's
it's
pegged,
but
it's
not
curve
and
guttered.
It
has
no
shoulder
it's
ditched
on
either
side
and
you
can
see
the
proximity
of
this
driveway
to
this
busy
intersection
here
and
so
that
sort
of
sets
the
stage
for
the
property
that
we
have
today.
E
L
I'll
do
a
natural
demand
here
in
downtown
my
life
and
I
purchased
the
property
July
of
last
year.
Our
hope
is
to
relocate
our
Banking
and
through
kids
to
the
property
later
this
year,
as
you
can,
as
Ryan's
mentioned.
You
know,
we're
concerned
with
some
of
the
challenges
of
the
property
being
surrounded
by
roads.
All
three
sides:
we've
got
a
really
strong
security
concern
about
the
property.
L
I
think
you'll
see
additional
evidence
that
showed
us
that
if
we
were
one
lot
down,
it
would
be
a
much
safer
environment
for
our
little
kids
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
protect
them
being
out
here,
exposed
to
the
three
roads,
whether
it's
crashes,
whether
it's
you
know
being
in
the
line
side
of
a
large
amount
of
population
on
a
regular
basis.
All
of
those
things
I
believe
present.
Additional
challenges
and
safety
concerns
for
our
family.
E
L
Brick
fence
designed
around
the
back
side
coming
all
the
way
down:
Shadow
broken
along
Saddle,
Club
and
the
reason
for
it
being
solid
brick.
There
is
noise
and
a
line
of
sight
being
able
to
make
that
part
of
the
yard,
private
and
less
noisy,
and
then
we
convert
it
to
wrought
iron
going
down
highway.
One
there's
another
lot,
just
a
couple
of
doors
down
that
has
the
same
type
wrought
iron
fence
at
the
similar
height
that
we're
requesting
the
bearings
floor.
L
E
E
E
M
Right
next
Mr
Jeff
Wilkins
good
morning,
my
name
is
Jeff.
Wilkins
I
know
for
a
few
times
this
morning,
I'm
an
architect
here
in
town
who
50
commercial
or
50
residential
work
and
had
an
opportunity
to
do
both
types
of
projects
with
Mr,
Mohler
and
yeah.
Just
appreciate
those
time
this
morning.
Thank
you
to
Ryan
for
helping
us
also
navigate
Josh
and
Douglas
myself
for
out
on
site
reviewing
the
project
trying
to
go
through
his
project
goals
and
quickly
realize
that
we
needed
some
help
navigate.
M
So
thank
you
for
for
this
for
helping
us
with
this
process,
so
yeah
so
I'm
delighted
the
part
of
this
project.
This
neighborhood
is
a
wonderful
spot
in
Burlington
and
what
we're
seeing
is
you
know,
there's
there's
beginning
to
be
kind
of
a
turnover
in
the
neighborhood,
and
some
of
these
historic
homes
in
Burlington
are
are
getting
new
owners
and
that's
exciting
to
me
as
an
architect
to
see
some
of
these,
these
older
homes
being
preserved
and
and
refurbished,
and
that's
what
Douglas
is
doing
here
with
his
family.
M
This
particular
house
was
designed
by
an
architect
Vernon
Lewis
in
this
in
the
60s,
so
it
is
it
Is,
Well
Done
and
there
was
a
single
owner
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
quarries
owned
this
property
until
they
sold
it
to
Mr
Bubble.
So
it's
well
taken
care
of
and
and
as
a
wonderful
wonderful
piece
of
property.
M
E
E
M
E
And
security
issues
that
the
Wall
came
up
very
early
in
the
conversations
and
then
so
when
you're
designing
a
wall,
how
do
you
can
you
walk
through
the
the
assessment
of
this
property
and
then
how
you
start
designing
a
wall
relative
to
the
constraints,
sort
of
got
to
work
with
them?
Well,
the
thing
about
these
existing
homes
certainly.
M
E
To
beat
Douglas
disease,
what
does
the
wall
look
like
before
we
get
to
the
variance
question
or
the
the
conclusion
that
this
doesn't
work
for
this
property,
or
this
ordinance,
you
know
is,
is
intended
for
99
of
homes
and
not,
but
just
doesn't
work
for
this
one.
What
made
that
evidence
and
understand
process
start
said
again
what
what
made
it
evident,
what
made
ordinances
and
consists.
E
M
Stomach
getting
but
I
always
encourage
them
immediately
because
they
tell
us
so
much
and
we
quickly
realized
on
this
particular
site,
that
a
survey
is
going
to
tell
us
a
lot
more
because
it's
a
little
bit
conceiting.
So,
as
you
can
see,
the
high
point
of
this
block
is
at
the
exact
intersection
of
SoundCloud
and
Shadowbrook,
and
it
slopes
to
the
Southwest
and
that's
the
lowest
point.
M
So
following
that
ordinance
of
measuring
the
Wall
height
from
the
road
just
by
this
information,
so
we're
going
to
get
a
real
inconsistent
walleye
we're
going
to
get
a
long,
Saddle
Club
we're
going
to
get
a
high
wall.
That's
allowed
up
until
the
front
of
the
house
and
then,
as
you
can
see
the
typo
lines.
It's
a
little
bit
deceiving
directly
in
the
front
of
the
house
there.
Under
the
lines
look
like
they
just
go
straight
over
in
the
elevation
of
the
front
yard
is
the
same
as
the
front
of
the
house.
M
But
that
is
not
the
case.
If
you,
if
you
look
closely
and
you
zoom
in
the
elevation
of
the
front
yard
of
the
house,
is
actually
two
feet
higher
than
the
road
that
it's
adjacent
to
you
know.
So,
if
you
follow
that
Topo
line
up
there
Ryan,
you
know
it
goes.
It
goes
up
planned
North,
so
that
elevation
up
there
at
the
top
of
the
screen
is
the
same
as
the
front
elevation
of
the
front
yard
there.
So
what
that
means
is
if
we
follow
the
coordinates,
we.
E
Basically
get
a
lot
of
two
foot
high
wall
there
in
front
of
the
house.
Do
you
want
to
use
the
pointer
to
kind
of
project
where
the
wall
is
where
the
fence
on
the
front
is,
and
then
how
it's
going
to
be
measured
where
it
is
on
the
lot
relative
to
where
the
ordinance
says
it
should
be
measured
on
the
road
right.
M
So,
just
in
case
I
wasn't
clear:
if
you
follow
that
663
line,
it
comes
all
over
here,
so
this
has
the
same
height.
Is
this
elevation
here,
whereas
what's
a
little
receiving
is
this
road
is
the
same
height
as
here?
So
if
our
fence
is
is
running
along
here
that
the
ordinance
reads,
the
height
of
this
fence
is
measured
from
the
injection
fluid
so
that
663
or
660..
Well,
let's
do
it
right
here,
666.
M
E
So,
if
you're
measuring
from
the
grade
of
the
lot
in
the
front
yard
or
if
you're,
measuring
from
you're
measuring
the
fence,
which
is
located
on
the
lot
from
the
middle
of
the
road
and
you're,
allowed
a
four
foot
wall,
measured
from
the
middle
of
the
road
you're
going
to
get
a
two
foot
wall
by
the
time,
the
fence
is
in
the
ground.
Correct,
okay,
so
a
question
so
just
put
it
in
simple.
M
B
E
E
M
E
E
So
Jamie
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
the
Illustrated,
the
PowerPoint,
with
the
Illustrated
site,
yep
we'll
be
over
here,
because
I
think
this
show
is
kind
of
where
that
driveway
is
going
to
be
so,
if
you'll
kind
of
explain
sure
how
we
make
why
this
is
necessary
and
what
we
need
from
spacing
and
dimensions
for
things
happen
sure.
So
as
as
Ryan
Douglas
testified
earlier,.
M
That
was
our
primary
goal
there.
So
without
having
to
completely
reconfigure
the
garage
redesigned
that
back
side
of
the
house.
What
we
were
trying
to
utilize
was
an
existing
garage
and
provide
access
to
it
from
the
front,
so
the
driveway,
so
that
that
was
what
that
side
driveway
design
intent
was
the
problem
with
that
is.
M
The
turning
radius
is
required
for
a
vehicle
to
make
that
transition
back
there
and
for
that
to
be
comfortable
and
not
for
Douglas,
and
his
wife
did
not
have
to
make
a
five-point
turn
every
time
they
want
to
get
into
their
driveway
Drive
it's
it's.
We
we
pulled
the
wall
as
far
out
as
we
could
to
that
12
foot,
six
setback,
which
was
a
reduction
that
we
utilized
in
an
effort
to
get
a
turning
radius.
That
was
comfortable
enough
to
get
in
there.
I'm
comfortable
enough
is
loose.
M
It's
tight,
average
Vehicles
will
will
struggle
to
make
that
the
Douglas
will
have
to
he'll,
get
it
down
to
a
science
where
he
can
get
close
to
that
wall
without
hitting.
But
it's
going
to
take
some
practice,
but
it
is.
It
is
maxed
out,
in
my
opinion,
from
a
turning
radius
of
average
size
vehicles
to
get
to
make
that
garage.
E
E
E
M
These
adjoining
roads
and
any
impact
the
impact,
if
anything,
they
would
have
sure
again.
This
this
property
in
this
neighborhood
has
a
some
wonderful,
architectural
designs
and-
and
my
goal
here
is
to
pay
homage
to
that
to
to
keep
Douglas's
property
in
keeping
with
the
fabric
and
penetration
of
this
of
this
neighborhood
and
and
I
believe
that,
in
the
attempt
that
we
are
proposing
here,
will
only
enhance
that
as
a
an
entry
into
Conway
and
as
a.
E
M
M
M
M
M
It
keeps
the
wall
from
from
being
imposing
or
or
or
creating,
a
barrier,
which
is
what
I
understand
the
ordinance
is
trying
to
avoid
I'm
trying
to
keep
a
large,
opaque,
bearing
or
right
on
the
road.
That's
what
that's
not
what
we're
trying
to
do
so,
it's
moving
it
back!
That's
staying
away
from
those
far
away
from
the
side
triangles,
which.
G
M
E
To
that,
are
you
influences
Your
Design,
influenced
by
the
purpose
and
intent
of
the
fence
and
wall
ordinance?
Absolutely,
do
you
think,
and
so
this
design
reflects
that
in
your
work.
It
does
that's.
Are
you
aware
of
any
improvements,
alterations
or
changes
that
Mr
boatler
has
made
to
the
property
if
it
was
accentuated
or
created?
The
challenges
you've
outlined
in
your
testimony.
M
H
Dr
Jeremy
Chapman,
with
Irina
Camp
Associates
I
work
by
The
Bachelor
of
North
Carolina
I've,
been
with
Randy
Council
for
about
three
and
a
half
years
prior
to
that.
I
was
with
American
Structures
Indiana
for
a
couple
years
prior
to
that
I
taught
at
North
Elementary
student
technology,
teaching
transportation
and
traffic
engineering
type
of
safety
for
five
years
I'm
proud
of
that.
You
know,
I
earned
my
PhD
from
University
of
Wisconsin
Madison
also.
H
E
E
H
Sure
the
primary
purpose
of
this
report
was
to
look
at
the
traffic
characteristics
of
2521
Pineway
Drive,
to
see
if
they're
are
any
specific,
immediate
hazards,
but
also
to
look
to
see
what
is
going
on
with
the
roadway
Network
around
it
to
see
how
that
might
impact
the
property
either
generally
or
uniquely,
and
also
then
just
to
look
for
comparable
properties.
That
may
also
exist
that
could
be
facing
a
similar
situation
or
not,
and.
B
H
G
F
E
H
E
H
Collector
Road,
it
could
just
be
the
terminology
you
use,
but
I
didn't
use
the
at
a
minimum
just
to
say
that
it
is
not
function
as
a
local.
So
it
is
above
that
I
don't
I,
do
not
see
it.
Access
a
functioning
either
so
they'll
probably
be
minor
collectors
moving
borderline
as
a
major
collector,
but
definitely
not
approaching
closed
arterial
level.
H
B
H
Setting
that
will
have
carbon
gutter,
it
will
have
some
typically
shoulder
space,
or
at
least
the
outside
edge
line.
The
white
stripe
line
with
some
space
past
that
usually
maybe
three
feet
from
the
edge
of
that
to
the
curb
face
in
current
in
modern
design.
Now
you
may
actually
have
five
feet
because
you
make
a
bike
lane
in
there
there's
going
to
be
room,
it's
not
going
to
feel
constrained.
H
E
H
H
So
so
Club
is
a
very
common
Road
in
that
is
basically
it
just
has
existed
for
a
long
time.
It
has
functioned
and
it
has
just
probably
never
been
paid.
It's
never
been
intentionally
improved
and
the
amount
of
traffic
using
it
just
keeps
increasing
at
some
point.
I
presume
it
probably
is
on
a
plan
to
be
improved
for
for
those
reasons,
but
if
it
were
being
built
today
as
a
new
road,
it
would
not
look
like
that.
E
H
H
Well
from
that,
from
that
view,
I
mean
that
could,
when
we're
starting
at
the
very
Baseline,
a
local
Road
and
a
collector
minor
collector,
can't
look
very
similar
because
the
standards
don't
change
a
couple,
your
local
roads,
a
lot
of
times
those
are
booked
by
developers,
so
they're
going
to
maybe
look
into
the
aesthetic
of
a
neighborhood
area
more
than
a
function,
but
that
would
function
from
that
view.
Without
knowing
more
data
that
could
function,
I
would
think
as
a
broker.
H
Are
different
ways
of
potential
again
anytime,
you
have
an
intersection
where
you're
not
going
to
a
true
90
degree
angle,
where
you're
at
a
skew
like
like
what
is
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen
there,
a
driver
that
is
not
familiar
could
not
maybe
not
make
the
turn
they
could
over
correct
or
under
correct
in
steering.
Additionally
again,
while
it's
probably
somewhat
rare
in
this
area,
icing
conditions
or
whatever
or
additional
vehicle,
that's
trying
to
make
that
tournament
slide
into
that
area.
E
H
There
are
two
acronyms
one
is
ADT:
one
is
aadt
and
I
realize
that
they
are
very
similar.
If
they're,
not,
if
you
do
not
enunciate
they
consultant,
they
can
sound
very
much.
The
same
average
daily
traffic
is
will
be
collected.
We
collected
for
48
hours
included
an
average
of
that
time
period
to
see
how
many
vehicles
on
each
of
those
days
was
was
going
past.
A
certain
point:
ncdot
has
a
system
of
collectors
all
over
the
state
for
their
collected
ones,
the
ADT
data,
so
their
collectors
are
always
collecting
data.
E
E
E
E
H
H
So
in
generality,
the
light
green
here
is
where
Saddle
Club
would
fall,
Saddle
Club
being
a
local
road
is
not
color
coded,
but
it
matches
up
with
the
same
traffic
that
you
can
see
on
Edgewood,
Or,
Front,
Street
or
over
here
on
Williamson
Avenue,
as
well.
So
to
give
you
an
idea
of
the
volumes
of
it
actually
is
facing
it's
really
no
different
functionally
than
any
of
these
other
streets.
E
E
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
That
really
is
just
an
impact
of
being
right
by
the
signal
there's
queuing
vehicles
are
stopped,
vehicles
are
slowing,
vehicles
are
accelerating
there
is
that
churning
effect,
so
there
really
isn't
an
opportunity
for
people
to
fly
through
the
intersection,
except
we
do
have
a
few
outliers
I
believe
those
all
came
with
at
night
or
early
in
the
morning
where
you
can
see
on
here
this.
The
team
Counting
Bend
everything
out.
H
E
H
We'll
there's
a
few
different
factors:
one
there's
always
Vehicles
sitting
there
idling
that
will
increase
essentially
the
point
of
evolution
issue
with
tailbite
conventions.
A
second
issue
is
that
if
people
are
not
being
observant,
that
is
where
crashes
can
occur,
the
avoidance
of
a
crash,
especially
in
the
vehicle,
is
coming
up
too
quickly
to
the
back
of
the
queue
we
think
we've
all
been
trained.
E
H
E
E
H
Passers-By
or
motorists
well,
generally
speaking,
I
did
not
do
a
an
analysis
of
the
citronics
presumed
that
that
was
performed
or
when
the
final
wall
is.
If
it
is
approved
that
will
be
reviewed
as
well
by
staff
to
make
sure
that
site
triangle
issues
are
not
a
problem
as
far
as
setbacks.
What
I
did
look
at
one
is
that
any
wall
is
going
to
help
eliminate
a
runoff
Road
Crash
from
entering
VR,
just
a
high
function
of
a
wall.
L
B
B
H
Used
to
be
three
feet:
we've
left
it
because
more
vehicles
have
gotten
taller,
SUVs
and
so
forth.
So
drivers,
the
average
driver
item
is
about
three
and
a
half
feet
off
the
ground.
That
said,
a
wall
of
four
feet
would
obstruct
that
regardless,
so
even
the
approved
height
minimum
would
be
in
that
one
path
problem
anyway,
so
functionally
for
a
safety
perspective.
Four
five
six
eight
doesn't
really
make
much
of
a
difference.
H
You
might
not
be
able
to
see
the
top
of
the
vehicle
if
it
happened
to
fall
a
Metro
directory
line,
but
it's
just
as
easy
for
anything,
even
if
a
poor
feet
to
obscure
that
when
I
did
that
review
as
well
of
other
properties,
the
one
other
property
that
was
identified
has
a
Hedgerow
that
is
maybe
10
feet
off
the
pavement
off
the
edge
of
the
runway.
That
appears
to
be
at
least
six
feet
high.
That
would
be
completely
obscuring
visibility
as
well.
E
G
H
E
Whether
this
wall
is
four
feet,
eight
feet
ten
feet
20
feet,
given
this
proposed
location,
would
this
present
a
visual
obstruction
to
a
motorist
at
this
intersection?
Trying
to
make
a
turn?
Remember
ascertain
you
know,
traffic
on
either
would
a
four
foot
wall
that's
built
along
the
property
line
to
present
a
greater
risk
to
a
passing
motorist
or
a
reduced
risk
of
to
passing
motorists
in
the
context
of
visual
obstruction?
E
H
E
H
I
understand
why
it
was
likely
situated
as
it
was.
If
this
was
an
empty
lot
and
someone
was
proposing
to
put
a
new
house
there,
I
don't
believe
that
in
most
traffic
situations,
a
driveway
will
be
permitted
that
close
to
the
intersection.
It
would
probably
have
been
all
the
way
down
to
the
building
setback
line
at
the
bottom
if
it
was
allowed
at
all
to
access
that
road.
H
Look
at
this
one,
okay,
this
distance
here,
especially
if
this
was
a
commercial
property
gas
station
or
something
else
would
be
considered
far
too
close
to
the
intersection
just
for
vehicles.
Turning
in
and
out,
additionally,
we're
running
into
a
problem
that
for
the
owner
to
make
a
left
turn
in
coming
up
Shadowbrook,
they
have
to
enter
the
left
turn
right
here.
H
Any
drivers
that
are
going
to
be
coming
to
the
intersection
otherwise
are
not
going
to
be
expecting
a
driver
to
make
a
left
turn
before
entering
the
intersection.
So
it
creates
a
unique
conflict
point.
They
normally
would
not
exist.
Additionally,
if
they
are
coming
in
to
turn
they're
going
to
come
to
a
stop
and
again,
a
driver
is
not
going
to
be
expecting
another
driver's,
not
going
to
necessarily
expecting
them
need
to
be
in
the
likelihood
of
the
increased
likelihood
Collision.
H
A
A
E
I
I
I
Obviously
my
credentials
are
certifications
from
North
Carolina
alarm
system
licensing
board,
as
well
as
a
North
Carolina
electrical
board,
which
is
a
requirement
in
continuing
education.
Every
year
we,
our
company,
focuses
on
both
as
I
said,
residential
commercial.
We
did
anything
from
access
control
which
obviously,
in
this
building,
there's
access,
control,
video
surveillance,
residential
and
Fargo,
on
fire,
alarm,
gate
access,
control
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
anything
to
Aid
in
residential
and
commercial
for
security
and
safety,
whether
it
be
electronic
intrusion
or
some
type
of
permits,
perimeter,
advice
or
anything.
I
In
other
words
when
it
goes
all
home,
especially
a
residence
application.
I
try
to
approach
it
to
help
secure
a
property
regardless
if
they
are
going
to
do
business
with
us
or
not,
try
to
help
them
to
secure
the
property
as
any
police
officer
of
mine
or
so
on
and
so
forth.
But
with
my
education,
what
I
do
studying,
break-ins
and
intrusion?
You
know,
abductions
and
all
those
things
you
know,
that's
how
I
address
everything.
I
In
this
project,
I
was
contacted
by
Ryan
to
go
to
take
a
look
at
the
property
to
see
what
my
assessment
would
be
about,
how
you
know,
protect
the
property
and
I
have
a
lot
of
clients
in
that
area,
and
so
basically,
I
went
to
school
a
simple
walk
through
based
upon
some
of
the
information.
Obviously,
that
has
been
presented
today
about
proposals
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
looked
at
that
as
well
as
a
major
part
of
what.
E
I
was
doing
okay,
and
so
your
assessment
of
the
property
primarily
was
a
physical.
Visual.
I
could
walk
around
in
the
context
of
this
proposed
barrier,
structure
of
Predator
fence
or
wall
correct,
correct,
and
can
you
explain
the
purpose
and
function
that
a
perimeter
fence
or
wall
was
serve
to
a
properties?
Privacy
and
security
needs
relative
to
intrusion,
correct.
I
I
What
and
what
threats
am
I
looking
for
I,
even
though
this
might
seem
a
bit
aggressive,
I'm
looking
for
abductions,
because
it's
easy
to
do
that
today
and
I'm
looking
for
you
know
the
safety
of
the
family
as
well.
I
mean,
obviously,
that's
already
been
addressed,
but
I'm
looking
at
it
from
those
perspectives
and
how
can
I
prevent
or
try
to
again
it's
I'm
not
going
to
prevent
anything
right?
How
can
I?
I
The
same
situation,
I
would
be
looking
for
something
to
give
me
the
ability
to
block
off
the
back
of
the
rear
of
the
home
that
would
be
facing
Shadow
root
because
there's
that's
probably
the
easiest
point
of
entry
into
this
property.
Just
due
to
the
simple
fact
that
someone
could
park
on
the
side
of
the
road
very
easily
and
go
down
the
property.
That's
between
between
the
property
on
we'll
feel
good
from
Pine
wavy
to
the
right
and
then
Douglas
is
home
so
that
it
would
be
easy
to
come
down
that
side.
I
I
Untrue
in
an
intruder
is
looking
for
a
quick
way
in
a
quick
way
out
the
average
Intruder
when
you
start
when
you
study,
burglaries,
residential
burglaries
and
so
on,
and
so
forth.
They're
looking
for
the
easiest
way
in
and
easiest
way
out
and
that's
an
easy
way
in
easy
way
out
for
somebody
to
get
in
there
in
that
property.
So.
B
I
E
You
is
it
fair
in
your
assessment
to
say
that
the
property
being
founded
by
as
established
by
earlier
testimony
bounded
by
heavily
traveled
roads
and
a
third
neighborhood
road
is
more
or
uniquely
at
risk
of
a
threat
of
intrusion
than
would
be
a
single
family
home
in
a
low
density,
residential
neighborhood.
That
just
has
one
street
Frontage
and
most
definitely,
and
is
that?
Because,
as
you
testified,
it
presents
more
opportunity
for
easy
and
easy
out
correct.
I
Plus
a
heavier
heavier
traffic
Road,
not
many
people
would
stop
to
wonder.
Okay.
Why
is
this
car
stopped
on
the
Side
Road?
You
know
they're
just
going
to
continue
to
go
versus
being
in
the
county
or
so
on
and
so
forth,
be
totally
different.
You
know
people
would
pay
attention
in
my
neighborhood,
I
lived
all
I've
been
in
a
street
and
13
houses.
E
I
Or
operating
security
or
any
privacy,
not
not
that
height,
because
even
it
even
at
56
years
old
I
can
office,
I
mean
I
can
just
hop
over
be
in
there
do
whatever
damage
I
want
to
do
and
get
out
very
simple,
so
you
know
most
motion
triggers
aren't
carrying
wires.
You
know,
that's
not
that's
not
what
it
works
in.
E
I
Question
is
hard
to
answer
because
that
just
varies
on
I
mean
obviously
the
higher
it
is
the
better.
It
is
right.
Eight
foot
when
I
look
there
when
I
looked
at
property,
eight
foot
wouldn't
be
what
I
would
propose
to
do
that
property,
but
I.
Don't
there's
not
really
a
standard,
okay,
so
to
say
that
there's
a
standard
for
that
I
really
can't
I
can't
say:
hey
it's
six
foot,
eight
foot,
four
foot.
E
Mr
Butler
and
making
the
proposed
site
plan
and
trying
to
and
attempting
to
conform
as
close
to
the
ordinance
requirements,
as
is
necessary
to
achieve
what
he
needs,
is
proposed,
a
six
foot
wall
and
fence.
I
assume
you
would
agree
that
that
works
better
than
four
feet
100.
Would
you
agree
that
six
feet
offers.
G
I
E
Better
protection
for
him
and
his
family,
you
can
you
talk
about
a
little
bit
about
so,
of
course,
the
we've
all
seen
the
renderings
and
the
design
I
don't
need
to
flip
back
through
it
I,
don't
think,
but
the
wall
along
Pine
Way
wraps
around
to
or
the
wall
alongside
wraps
around
Pine
Way.
Can
you
talk
about
what
the
value
of
making
sure
that
that
remains
a
brick
wall
around
the
corner,
as
opposed
to
wrought
iron?
Can
you
explain
why
that's
important
from
a
security
and
privacy
standpoint
if.
I
Cars
are
situated.
It
would
be
easy
for
me
to
go
in
there
park
my
car
and
get
across
that
fence
without
any
problems
having
the
ability
to
bring
that
back
around
because
when
I
talked
to
Ryan
about
it
before
I
even
walked
on
the
property
when
we
were
just
discussing
it.
My
first
question
was
what,
if
he's
not
going
to
have
gated
access,
then
the
fence
is,
you
know,
I
think
it's.
You
know
he
needs
to
have
gated
access
and
have
that
property.
I
E
B
I
I,
wouldn't
I,
now
you're
asking
there's
again
going
back
to
a
standards
no
standard.
This
is
basic.
This
is
objective.
Right
is
subjective,
sorry,
but
it
would
be.
If
it
were
me,
it
would
be
brick
versus
radar.
I
don't
want
I
mean
obviously
from
an
aesthetic
standpoint.
The
wrought
iron
is
in
a
lot
of
the
homes
that
I
do
in
Greensboro,
Country
Club.
I
So
on
some
some
of
my
higher
net
worth
customers,
they
they
have
wrought
iron
just
for
an
aesthetic
purpose,
yeah
but
again,
most
investigated
access
right,
which,
with
which
most
of
those
gates
are
eight
feet,
opening
throttle.
So
to
answer
your
question:
I
wouldn't
be
I
I
personally,
wouldn't
if
I
don't
think,
I
would
have
to
implement
my
gate
if
anything
far
because
most
states
are
like
that,
all
right
just
ask
them.
Is
it
easier,
though,.
I
Based
upon
height,
it
wouldn't
be
I,
don't
think
either
is
going
to
be.
You
know,
I,
don't
think,
based
on
height.
I
would
think
that
you
would
again
it's
visibility.
They're
trying
to
it
would
be
harder.
I
guess!
Yes,
if
you
really
think
about
it
being
harder
to
scale
and
obviously
easier
to
see
if
you're
trying
to
scale
a
brick
wall
versus
a
wrought
iron,
you
know
a
wrought
iron
fence.
If
you
will.
E
E
E
E
E
What
percentage
of
your
work
is
on
residences
of
this
square
footage
and
plots
of
this
size
about
70
percent?
We
we
specialize
in
high-end
custom,
new,
builds
renovations,
but
yeah
definitely
hiring
homes,
larger
homes,
and
so
when
you
are,
when
a
client
comes
to
you
and
says
I,
you
know
would
like
to
have
my
property.
You
know
fence
or
a
wall
around
my
property
and
it
needs
to
serve.
E
D
I
can
look
into
cars
as
they're
sitting
in
the
intersection.
They
can
look
into.
The
house
see
us
working
so
there's
there's
no
level
of
privacy
from
that
back
road
at
the
current
time,
from
a
security
standpoint.
Yes,
if
the
customer
is
asking
what
do
I
need
to
do
to
secure
this
property,
I
agree,
100
fit
four
foot
really.
E
D
Know
deliver
an
effective
or
a
functional
product.
Absolutely
part
of
the
issue
is
that
the
the
property
line
along
the
Shadowbrook
and
Saddle
Club
the
road
actually
sits
higher
than
the
house
it's
hard
to
see
from
the
area
we
use,
but
the
lot
actually
goes
down
toward
the
house
from
that
intersection:
a
Long
Pine
Way
over
the
years,
the
the
front
yard
has
been
graded
to
be
somewhat.
E
E
I
want
to
talk
about
the
the
conditions
that
Mr
broker
is
attached
to
this
request.
Those
are
a
list
of
items
that
that
he
is
effectively
offering
the
city
offering
the
board
for
consideration
to
make
sure
that
this
request
remains
in
line
with
the
spirit,
purpose
and
intent
of
the
ordinance
that
he's
asking
for
a
variance
from
and
I'm
gonna.
If
you'll
indulge
me
for
a
moment,
I'm
going
to
read
into
the
record
what
the
purpose,
intent
and
intent
of
defense
and
wall
ordinance
reads.
E
E
Development
standards
for
permanent
fences
and
walls
on
individual
lots
of
development
sites.
These
standards
are
proposed
to
protect
the
health
and
safety
of
the
public,
while
balancing
the
practical
uses
from
fencing
in
walls
like
security
and
privacy,
with
the
need
for
aesthetic
quality
and
a
high
quality
ability
environment.
E
More
specifically,
these
standards
are
intended
to
one
provide
for
privacy
and
security
on
individual
lives.
Two
ensure
proper
construction
techniques
are
followed
and
that
fences
and
walls
are
maintained
in
good
repair.
Three
assist
with
the
transition
between
public
and
private
spaces
and
four
ensure
fencing
and
walls
are
consistent
with
the
city's
desired
architectural
character.
E
D
D
E
G
E
That,
from
a
design
standpoint
from
a
building
standpoint,
what
effect
is
that
going
to
accomplish?
Well,
it's
going
to
make
the
road
feel
more
secure,
rather
than
a
wall
being
too
close
to
the
road.
As
he
said,
it's
a
narrow
road
to
begin
with,
and
we
feel
like
we
would
need
to
do
anything
to
encroach
on
that
any
further
make
you
feel
more
narrow,
but
also,
as
we
said,
to
separate
that
barrier
from
the
property.
Other
side
you
have.
You
testified
about
you
about.
B
E
Inconsistent,
though,
with
other
projects,
you've
worked
on
Kitchen,
System,
yeah
and
consistent
with
the
immediate
neighborhood,
you
say
it's
consistent
with
single-family
homes
across
the
city,
I
would
say
so,
especially
when
you
get
to
the
lower
density
residential
life.
You
have
larger
life
sizes,
the
scale
of
the
fencing
and
the
walls
needs
to
be
appropriate
for
the
scale
of
the
property
itself
and
Mr
McDowell.
Have
you
in
your
time
on
the
property.
E
A
An
ordinance
that
would
preserve
site
triangles
is
there
a
requirement
that
would
restrict
what
goes
on
the
outside
there
I
know
earlier.
It
was
mentioned
something
like
a
six
foot
intro
and
another
property
Etc.
What's
your,
you
know,
invest
your
knowledge.
What
are
the
requirements
and
restrictions
on
that
as
far
as
the
site
I'm
not
aware.
D
E
E
Those
two
roads
carry
traffic
volumes
that
are
commensurate
with
the
more
heavily
traveled
connector
roads
in
this
region
of
the
city.
That
is
unique.
That
is
a
problem
for
this
property
that
doesn't
exist
for
other
low
density,
Residential
Properties
in
this
area
or
in
the
City
generally,
it's
multi-directional
that
presents
risks
that
are
unique
to
this
property.
E
Of
course,
the
topography-
you
can't
say
enough
about
10
feet
of
fall
from
one
end
of
the
property
to
the
other
I
think
it's
been,
for.
It
has
been
pointed
out
that
the
property's
been
graded
to
accommodate
the
construction
of
the
residents
on
the
lot,
but
not
until
now,
when
we've
looked
at
how
a
fencer
wall
would
be
implemented
and
measured
due
to
the
real
effects
of
the
functioning
of
that
fencer
wall
become
affected
by
the
ordinances,
the
requirements.
E
This
topography
presents
privacy
and
security
concerns.
Mr
McDowell
testified
that
anywhere
on
the
property,
but
particularly
you
testified,
particularly
in
the
rear
that
a
four
foot
wall
does
not
provide
any
privacy
from
onlookers
as
Shadow
broker.
The
same
topographical
conditions
exist
along
Saddle,
Brook
or
Saddle
Club
into
the
northern
portion
of
the
property
limiting
privacy.
A
four
foot
wall
is
not
going
to
be
sufficient
to
protect
the
privacy
of
of
the
properties
inhabitants.
Here
forefoot
may
be
sufficient
next
door.
The
eight
feet
that
next
door
is
entitled
to
will
certainly
be
sufficient.
E
E
E
E
This
variance,
coupled
with
the
list
of
conditions
more
than
aligns
with
purpose
and
intent,
addresses
the
hardships
that
this
property
faces
and
does
so
in
a
way
that
is
minimally
necessary
to
give
the
properties
of
public
protection
they
need,
as
it
applies
to
this
unique
property.
So
thank
you
very
much
any
questions
happy
to
discuss
or
answer
any
questions.
K
G
E
That
Landscaping
is
ornamental
I,
you
know,
I
will
defer
to
Mr
Butler,
but
not
a
whole
lot
of
time
or
thought
it's
been
put
into
the
landscaping.
That's
shown
there
so
I
we're
opening
feedback
and
suggestion
to
the
requirements
around
the
Landscaping,
a
ton
of
effort
into
that
Jeff
added
that
to
the
rendering
we
haven't
reached
out
any
landscaping
companies
or
anything
like
that.
To
finalize
it,
we.
B
K
K
Insecurity,
there's
just
no
data
to
support
what
was
put
in
this
report,
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
there's
no
sense
right
now
in
front
of
pioneer.
So
if
crime
is
a
factor
with
this
property
without
offense
at
all
where's
the
data,
we
heard
a
lot
of
big
scary
charms
like
burglary
compensation
production,
but
that
could
happen
at
any
property
anywhere
in
the
city.
So
I
would
just
ask
that
you
stick
with
the
evidence
that
was
presented.
There
is.
G
K
Just
a
reminder:
you
can
condition
the
approval
of
the
variance
in
any
way
you
see
fit.
You
can
deny
the
variance
you
can
approve
it
with
the
conditions
within
their
report
and
I
would
point
out
for
number
four
in
their
application.
They
did
add
image
or
I.
Think
was
Mr
moffett's
presentation
that
they
might
put
brick
in
there
as
well,
along
with
the
right
iron
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
something
you
all
want
to
discuss
or
not,
but
that
was
part
of
their
conditions
and
I.
E
B
G
B
J
Would
be
able
to
put
in
much
higher
fence
no
in
from
the
front
front
facade
of
the
residence
revolver.
It
can
only
be
four
feet
tall,
so
that
impacts
their
front
fence
and
it
impacts
that
side
wall
as
it
goes
up
when
you're
equal
to
the
front
facade
which
just
not
on
that
drawing
or
it's
very
light
at
that
area,
where
the
green
stops.
I
think
that's
how
you
indicated
that
from
there
around
would
have
to
be
four
feet
tall
based
on
the
ordinance.
F
J
A
So
do
any
board
members
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant
or
staff
before
I
accept
motions
to
close
the
adventure.
You're
hearing
I'll
agree
with
the
council
that
came
forward.
I
mean
Saturday.
The
only
place
you
could
park
would
be
in
front
of
the
house
as
long
as
we're
illegal
last
part.
The
rest
of
them
be
parked.
F
F
Assuming
the
only
thing
I
would
just
suggest,
I
think
I've
accurately
counted
his
and
I.
Don't
think.
There's
anyone
here
to
speak,
but
I
think
you
should
either
call
for
anyone
who
cares
to
speak
in
opposition,
otherwise
or
otherwise.
Let
the
record
show
that
they
were
from
the
speakers
in
opposition
four.
K
A
B
One
thing
my
thoughts
on
this:
the
peculiar
to
that
particular
property
I-
think
that
that's
been
established
that
the
three
ordering
lines
slope,
the
height
of
the
road
versus
where
the
fence
would
go,
does
make
it
particular
to
this
particular
property
that
they
presented
that
it's
not
self
created
hardship
here.
Have
they
been
any
actions
to
to
create
a
great
hardship
and
I
failing
to
comply
with
any
zoning
or
tournament
that
created
the
hardship?
B
G
B
B
It's
going
to
be
aesthetically
appeals
and
appealing
to
that
type
of
neighborhood,
I
haven't
droved
for
that
neighborhood.
So
I'm,
not
sure
it
looks
like
looking
at
the
photographs
coming
down
the
street.
Oh
man,
you
know
I'm
in
favor
for
any
time
would
be.
The
resident
is
looking
to
improve
the
property
approve.
The
Arlington
City
Community
they'll,
say
on
my
site
visit
driving
a
little
bit
through
the
neighborhood,
the
property
that
the.
A
A
B
F
E
A
K
M
Yes,
architecturally
designed
well
I
think
in
keeping
with
the
ordinance
and
not
wanting
a
large
wall,
there
I'm
impartial
to
more
or
less
and
less
brick.
The
Douglas
also
mentioned
the
you
know,
I
know
we've
established
or
people's
opinion
that
security
may
not
be
an
issue,
but
that
particular
rendering
you
know
they
may
offer.
C
G
F
You
all
we
appreciate
it
just
raise
one
issue:
we'll
need
findings,
conclusions
and
decision
that
we
can
document
in
as
much
as
the
applicant
is
represented
by
Council
as
the
city
objects
or
anyone
else
objective.
If
we
might
ask
the
council
for
the
applicant
to
prepare
a
draft
and
I'll
give
you
my
contact
information,
and
we
can
something
like
that-
that
to
you
for
final
official
Hood,
yes
mechanism.
C
C
To
participate
at
that
meeting,
the
training
is
sponsored
Again
by
the
UNC
School
of
government.
Two
dates
of
an
in-person
session
will
be
Wednesday
of
May
24th
in
Kernersville,
and
that
will
be
from
1
o'clock
to
4
30
p.m.
A
second
option,
if
you
want
to
be
remote
and
online
training,
will
be
on
Thursday
June,
8th
2023,
again
from
1
pm
to
4
30.,
we'll.
C
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
so
that
topic
is
going
to
be
a
quasi-judicial
development
decisions
for
the
board
of
adjustments,
similar
to
what
train
you
all
might
have
done
in
October
of
last
year,
and
what
you're
expected
to
learn
are.
Do
you
have
to
hold
an
evidentiary
hearing
for
variance,
for
example,
like
you.