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A
C
Evening,
I'd
like
to
welcome
everybody
to
the
November
14
2022
city
council
work
session.
Please,
if
anyone
has
any
Electronics
devices,
please
turn
those
off
at
this
time,
we'll
go
right
into
our
agenda
with
item
a
which
is
a
project
update,
entertainment
being
used
in
Burlington
Athletics
Stadium,
we've
called
on
Noble
Department,
our
student
city
manager
at
Kelly
Law.
D
Mayor
council,
we're
here
tonight,
give
you
an
update
on
where
we
are
on
this
project.
D
We
I've
got
the
bullpen
back
here
behind
us
with
the
Dream
Team
Anderson,
with
stock
puppets
Todd
from
the
city,
Side
Tony,
Fred
Patrick,
and
then
we
also
have
Dan
and
Bailey
with
Bobby.
So
we've
all
been
working
pretty
diligently
and
feverishly
over
the
last
month
to
get
a
concept
together,
yeah
so
I'm
going
to
Jump
Right
In.
D
And
1.95
million
for
the
budget
RSQ
developments,
what
we
did
after
that,
we
had
to
develop
the
scope
on
that.
We
got
those
permitted
the
September.
They
were
due
in
October
when
we
came
back
to
Council
in
October
and
Council
approved
the
design,
Bill
contract
and
bought
it,
and
you
also
prove
that
what
I
didn't
remember
for
1.95.
D
The
last
month
we've
been
working
on
the
concept
we
call
schematic,
design
and
tonight
we're
here
to
review
that
concept
with
you
again.
It's
a
concept:
it's
not
a
full
design.
So
the
estimates
that
we
talked
about
tonight
are
you
know
as
good
as
we
can
get
them
at
this
point.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
little.
D
So
our
golden
eyes
get
consensus
on
the
concept
and
direction
just
a
reminder
of
the
design
build
process
we're
in
the
schematic
design
concept.
D
D
Just
a
reminder
on
what
we
were
trying
to
accomplish:
we
were
working
down
with
the
first
Baseline
in
the
right
field
area
and
the
project
gold,
as
you
recall,
from
our
previous
presentations
on
this,
was
to
enhance
the
social
experience
of
people
as
well.
Our
trade
opportunities
for
more
events
around
some
of
that.
D
You
know
other
parts
of
the
Year
outside
of
baseball
season
offer
compared
Walgreens
amenities
of
other
Regional
venues
and
whatever
we
do,
we
want
to
integrate
a
resisting
facility,
but
also
make
it
work
scalable
for
future
expansion,
and
so
that
kind
of
led
us
into
our
heat
Elements,
which
was
creating
such
a
root
carriers,
a
bar
area.
You
know
we
had
a
shape
and
structure
a
fully
functional
kitchen
restrooms
and
having
multiple
levels
to
help
with
a
big
plan,
experience
and
life
with
all
our
projects.
Do
it
right?
D
D
So
if
we
really
ended
up
focusing
as
you'll
see
what
I'm
getting
ready
to
show
you
in
this
area
and
this
area
over
here
kind
of
ends
up
being
something
more
of
a
courtyard
that
the
city
is
kind
of
handling,
but
we're
focusing
as
long
as
the
council
gives
in
that
area
right
there,
so
you'll
become
more
apparent.
So
this
is
the
concept
plan
View.
D
This
gives
you
some
idea
of
what
has
been
developed
by
the
team.
What
you've
got
is
that
this
is
a
Courtyard
area.
I
was
telling
about,
but
this
is
the
primary
area
here
we
have
come
into
the
foul
territory
with
the
agreed.
This
is
the
same
grade
as
a
field.
You've
got
obvious,
that's
around
it,
so
that's
the
potential
social
Gathering
area
that
you
could
be
rented
and
then
you
come
up.
The
ramp,
elevated
section
here
is
probably
five
or
six
feet.
D
You
have
to
take
to
another
elevated
section
that
could
be
rented
out
or
is
used
for
general
purpose
and
then
from
there
you
can
go
up
the
steps
or
go
up
and
around
to
an
additional
level
with
some
of
the
shade
and
structure,
and
so
the
Shaded
structure
is
the
primary
structure
in
this
venue,
before
I
kind
of
dig
into
that.
There's
also
a
platform
here
around
the
back
side
of
the
Outfield,
just
a
nice
Amity
that
feeds
off
of
this
and
then
you've
got
this.
D
It's
kind
of
a
demarcation
area
kind
of
sets,
this
area
off,
it's
got
decorative
rails
with
columns,
looks
very
nice
and
it
can
actually
function
separate
like
if
you're
outside
with
this,
you
know
baseball
season,
and
you
want
to
rent
this
space
out.
You
could
actually
have
this
function
separately
and
closed
off,
so
you
didn't
have
to
worry
about
folks
getting
into
the
rest
of
the
stadium.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
I've
learned
from
some
of
our
site
visits
and
other
savings
that
was
important
got.
D
You
know
concrete
area
back
here
where
you
can
do
various
activities,
but
going
back
to
this
main
structure,
if
you
pull
back
the
canopy
the
shade
structure,
the
level
underneath
of
that
is
what
I'm
showing
it
now.
So
basically,
what
you
have
is
a
bar
area
here,
with
the
seats
around
it
good
circulation
around
that
area.
This
very
right
here
is
actually
for
the
kitchen
area
for
the
exhaust,
because
you
got
to
have
budgets
and
space
for
that.
So
you
have
additional
seating
here
and.
D
That
ties
into
this
platform
on
the
Sunnyvale
that
offers
another
area
of
folks.
This
is
a
ramps
down
so
for
the
ramp.
Then
you
would
come
up
to
this
area.
You
could
access
there
or
you
could
go
on
a
this
area
here
into
the
top.
So
that's
what's
underneath
the
shade
structure
and
that's
a
lot
of
what
we
heard
inside
this.
D
You
know
you
want
a
really
nice
shaded
area
for
folks
who
are
socialized
bar
area
and
then
beneath
that
is
the
kitchen
which
is
pretty
much
what
you
see
here
in
the
middle
of
the
Boston
space.
That's
a
freezer.
You've
got
some
storage
space.
D
What's
on
this
side,
is
you
have
bathrooms
that
can
be
accessed
on
the
back
side
or
on
the
front
side?
Because
if
you've
had
this
space
rent
it
out,
you
know
they
would
still
have
partition
this
off
and
you
can
have
access
to
the
restrooms,
but
everybody
else.
D
There
is
a
serving
window
here
for
serving
coats
in
this
space
or
if
this
is
open,
because
any
product
is
going
to
come
in
and
get
served
without
having
to
go
up
top,
and
then
this
is
a
a
nice
little
room.
I
think
that
could
be
somebody
rent
I
got
a
meetings.
There
could
be
a
sensory
room,
so
we
were
just
trying
to
squeeze
in
an
extra
little
bit
and
I
think
the
design
needs
a
good
job.
D
So
that's
the
plan,
view
level
and
I'm
going
to
go
into
a
3dp
here,
so
this
is
looking
at
it
from
the
from
the
baseball
field.
Obviously-
and
you
can
see
here-
this
is
the
accurate
level
here
with
the
playing
field
and
electricity.
Both
around
you've
got
multiple
levels
of
activity
where
you
can
socialize
and
it's
a
lot
of
it's
about
social
interaction.
D
You
can
see
you
know
the
brick
columns,
and
things
have
really
add
something
to
that.
You've
got
some
great
on
this
front
right
here.
You've
got
some
brick
on
the
rear.
One
of
the
things
we
did
really
did
talk
about
on
the
aerial
view.
Was
we
actually
as
you
as
we
turn
the
structure
angle
it
into
the
field?
We
came
into
the
into
the
field
a
little
bit,
so
you
can
see.
The
part
of
the
field
here
has
been
encumbered
by
the
new
structure
in
the
design.
D
D
He
was,
he
was
great
so
that
that's
a
really
neat
feature,
and
he
said
it
really
has
some
care
to
the
stadium
that
that
softball
is
like,
and
it
really
gives
you
that
you
know
that
immersive
experience
you're
right
here,
you're
in
you're
in
you,
know
right
a
little
bit.
I,
don't
know
why.
B
D
So
that's
that
view
we
got
some
other
views
from
the
rear
from
the
back
side,
and
you
know,
obviously
in
in
a
very
short,
not
Baba
did
a
great
job
putting
these
together.
They
leave
the
wizard
of
this
stuff,
so
she
really
did
a
great
job.
We
did
this
a
couple
weeks,
but
just,
however,
see
from
the
back
side,
it
looks
really.
E
D
And
you
can
see
we're
focusing
also
have
activity
back
here.
That
would
be
the
courtyard
that
effectively
would
be
kind
of
expansion
of
what's
over
there.
That
courtyard
is
something
that
we're
just
we
see
it's
just
you
know,
do
it
as
best
we
can
for
now.
You
can
always
expand
in
the
area
of
Labor
the,
and
you
can
see
the
the
levels
again
and
that's
the
rare
entrance
that
I
was
telling
you
to
the
restrooms.
D
So
that's
that's
a
nice
view
there
as
well.
This
is,
if
you're
up
through
the
bar
just
you
kind
of
get
a.
E
Sense
of
your
view,
shed
into
the
field
and
having
those
levels
you
can
see
over
top
of
focusing
your
vision,
just
a
good
sense
of
what
that
space
could
look
like
so
I'm.
Coming
back
to
this,
because
before
I
move
in
to
talk
about
any
numbers,
I
want
to
I
want
to
kind
of
check
the
temperature
to
see
is
this:
did
we
hit
the
mark
Or?
You
know,
if
was
there
a
different
kind
of
vision,
or
do
you
feel
like
this?
Is
we're
heading
in
the
right
direction?.
D
G
G
Upwards
of
260
some
people
and
that's
just
a
modest,
putting
a
15
square
feet
per
person
where
you've
got
tables
and
chairs
and
then,
where
we've
got
bar
seating
or
table
seating
at
seven
people,
first
square
foot
and
that's
not
counting
any
of
the
area
behind
the
structure
that
paved
area.
That's
behind
it.
C
B
B
E
H
Grill,
it
is
compliant,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
another
discount
currently,
but
but
yeah
having
that
prep
kitchen,
that
commercial
Crepes
kitchen
is,
is
a
huge
bonus.
It's
not
just
for
us,
but
when
we're
going
out
to
events
or
trying
to
bring
events.
C
H
Yeah,
it
definitely
can
be
and
will
be
just
to
give
a
little
piece
of
so
I
was
in
Daytona
Beach
Florida.
They
have
a
similar
structure
and
a
preposition
like
that.
Where,
where
we
oftentimes
let
Caterers
come
in
and
utilize
it.
We.
H
Hosted
the
Chinese
national
softball
team
one
summer
in
in
Daytona
Beach
and
they
actually
have
their
own
prep,
chests
or
I.
Don't
even
know
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
name,
but
they
called
them,
but
they
utilized
in
the
kitchen.
So
yeah
I
mean
it's
there.
That's
the
whole
thing
with
the
ballpark.
Is
it's
there
year
round,
so
we
want
it
to
be
utilized
and
if
it's
not
utilized,
then
you're
right,
it's
a
miss.
C
B
C
H
An
average
spectator
and
if
I
may,
ideally
we
we
would
never
rent
something
for
an
entire
game,
because
the
company
wanted
to
do
about
it,
they
would
have
a
portion
of
the
game
or
pre-game
that
they
can
go
out
there.
But
this
is
this
is
ideally
utilized
to
enhance
the
experience
of
going
to
a
game.
I
think
if
you
would
pull
our
fans
I'd
say:
70
80,
which
is
a
very
high
number,
don't
really
care
about
the
game.
I
mean
we
went
I
think
we
had
13
wins
year.
One
I
mean
granted.
A
H
Spaceship
isn't
going
to
be
blocked
off
to
them,
utilizing
that
so
who
all
who.
C
Will
actually
operate
this
in
terms
of
the
the
kitchens
serving
of
the
food?
The
cleanup
is
that
going
to
be
through
the
through
the
ball
Club?
H
Yep
drinks
and
everything
will
be
able
to
hang
out
over
there.
That's
one
huge
thing
with
the
ballpark
there's
no
area
to
watch
the
game
unless
you're
sitting
down
in
one
of
the
seats
just
the
way
that
it's
designed.
So
this
allows
Spectators
fans
during
games
or
during
all
season,
events
to
watch
or
just
socialize
and
still
become
a
part
of
the
action,
even
more
so
actually
not
with
at
Great
on
the
field,
because
we're
eating
up
actually
probably
about
what
15
feet
of
battle
territory.
H
H
H
Right
and
we
plan
on
still
utilizing
the
grill
area
that
we
currently
have
to
help
out
with
that,
but
with
this
specifically
this
year,
because
we
don't
proceed
in
the
kitchen
being
done
in
time
for
the
season,
so
we'll
still
have
that
done
for
this
year,
but
moving
forward,
hopefully
offering
a
higher
level
more
unique
ballpark
offerings
where
it's
not
just
your
hot
dog
hamburger
people
can
get
something
more.
C
Guess
it's
not
going
to
be
different,
so
obviously
is
is
narrower
as
many
left-handed
advantages
are
arriving
in
the
batteries,
but
if
the
feeling
better
hooks
the
line
drop
in
in
a
let's
say,
even
short,
of
the
Home
Run
area,
but
this
this
will
be
screened
there.
That
area,
the
first
area
that
will
be
Supreme
dirty
just.
F
D
Know
a
little
quick
but
the
little
green
area
there,
the
open
area
what's
contemplating
that
early
on
yeah.
This
is
just
kind
of
a
concept
right
now.
There's
a
sidewalk,
that's
coming
here
and
you're
coming
down
here,
so
we
were
looking
at
right
now,
looking
at
the
10th
attack
to
connect
and
that's
where
you
would
get
into
the
space,
but
we're
going
to
think
it
through
as
we
go
through
the
zone.
You
know
it
may
make
sense
to
do
it
back
here.
You
don't
have
any.
F
C
F
G
D
Look
at
everything
and
the
numbers
that
I'm
going
to
show
you
are
just
everything
included.
That
includes
you,
know,
design
contingency,
Furniture,
landscape
I
mean
everything,
so
we've
got
everything
included
in
there.
So
let
me
get
back
to
my
slide
all
right,
so
the
full
scope
is
2.6
million,
and
that's
we've
already
talked
about
these
things,
but
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
realize
when
we
got
that
number
that
you
know
our
president
was
1.95.
So
we
have
a
burden
to
make
this
work
at
the
1995.
D
You've
got
to
do
quite
a
bit
of
value.
Engineering
you'll,
see
that
we
don't
recommend
that
we
go
that
route,
but
I'm
going
to
show
it
to
you
and
then
we
thought
well,
let's,
let's
do
one
in
between
okay,
so
we
also
have
what
we
call
misco.
So
this
is
the
thing
that's
gonna,
I'm,
very
sure
of
the
midscope
and
then
I'll
show
you
the
base
scope,
which
is
so
the
mids
go.
D
You
might
say
well
that
kind
of
looks
a
little
bit
the
same,
but
if
you,
if
you
pay
attention,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
difference.
If
you
look
over
here,
you've
got
you.
D
Got
a
nice
size
here
and
you've
got
bread.
You've
got
great
Palms
with
decorative
sentencing,
and
so,
as
you
come
here,
you
notice
a
lot
of
those
things
just
have
to
disappear.
In
addition,
you've
got
you
know
nice.
What
I
call
facing
branded
furniture
to
match
the
soccer
team,
and
so
that
would
have
to.
We
would
have
the
money
to
do
that.
That's
something
you
would
value
out,
even
if
you
would
reduce
your
furniture
budget,
so
you
would
also
reduce
your
kitchen
equipment.
D
So
it's
kind
of
what
they
had
in
the
full
scope
is
what
was
asked
for
and
they
felt
like.
That's
what
the
needs
of
we
found
some
things.
We
could
pull
back
it's
kind
of
a
job
they're
not
trying
to
get
to
get
the
numbers
down,
and
so
you
can
see
no
different
fence
with
the
brick
columns.
No
brick
veneer
on
the
front.
D
Landscaping
is
how
have
to
you
know,
do
the
best
we
can
have
jobs,
exterior
signs
and
in
the
back
you
know
that
large
concrete
here
would
be
reduced
and
significantly
so
that's
the
midscope
all
right.
So
we
again,
we
recommend
the
postcode
at
a
minimum.
We've
recommend
the
bisco.
The
base
coat
is
I'm,
saying
approximately
to
me
and
let's
try
that
over
195.
D
and
so
the
further
reductions
there
are
there
are
not.
There
will
be
nothing
in
the
kitchen
of
this
shell,
so
you
won't.
You
know
you
have
to
populate
that
in
the
future,
with
appliances
and
equipment
to
make
that
functional,
you
reduce
the
shade
structures.
You
notice
there,
the
chase
structure.
You
lose
a
piece
of
that.
You
also
lose
The.
F
Outfield
platform
here
and
there
wouldn't
be
any
partnership
budget,
so
we
would
be,
you
know,
grabbing
some
thick
big
tables,
some
various
places,
thinking
it
wouldn't
look
as
good,
but
you
know
this
is
the
the
base
scope
of
how
to
make
that
work.
You
can
grow
into
it,
but
it
certainly
would
not
be
have
that
off
that
you
want.
F
Let's
go
for
base
and
then
from
there
you
know,
we'll
complete
design
work
to
bother
a
bit
out,
get
the
GMP
and
we'll
bring
back
our
budgets
in
the
screen.
That's
on
the
balance,
because
we
already
have
that
founded
business
has
whatever's
needed,
let's,
unless
we're
told
to
sick
of
that,
which
is
fine
and
we're
going
to
start
construction,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
gee
did
you
started
off
on
the
last
slide
versus
top
of
the
line?
F
And
let's
figure
out
what
we
need
to
get
600
million
dollars
right
now
within
the
whole
entire
city
budget,
but
I
mean
that's
a
no-brainer
to
me.
I'll
pull
another
option
after
that,
dude.
C
It's
nothing
to
use.
That's
possibility
corporate
sponsorships
with
some
of
this
actually
with
the
600.
That's
what
I'm
saying
I'm
not
saying
the
whole
thing
can
come
there
yeah,
but
you
know
honestly
guys
this
was
many.
Many
years
ago
we
saw
more
sponsorships
for
anything
in
Davison
Park
and
where
companies
step
up
and
do
it
all
of
that
part.
We've
been
talking
about
that
Earl.
C
A
much
easier
sale
because
it's
going
to
be
something
that
felt
it's
just
it's
just
a
bit
easier,
sale
and
I'm,
not
saying
it's
pretty
easy
sale,
I'm
just
saying
that
that's
an
option
to
try
to
bring
get
some
of
this
money
because
I
I
agree
19326,
which
you
just
showed
you
lose
the
you
lose
the
vision
of
what
you're
doing
I
think
it's
gonna
be
wrong
or
you
can
grow
into
it
over
time,
but
going
back
in
and
trying
to
renovate
something.
H
If
I
can
say
just
a
couple
things
to
do
so
in
actually
in
our
lease
all
name,
it
rights
sponsored
for
name
brands
about
go
support.
A
lot
of
that
goes
back
to
the
city,
so
not
only
do
I
anticipate
being
able
to
selling
rights
for
this
area
alone,
I.
H
H
So
you
know
Nolan
Griffin
field
as
Romans
athletic
Stadium,
we'll
bring
it
right
into
it.
So
yeah
and
obviously
those.
H
That's
actually
all
in
the
interaction
voted
on
by
Council
as
well,
so
we
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
our
part
in
in
helping
get
this
through.
Obviously,
we
are
not
a
multi-million
dollar
corporation
that
can,
just
you
know,
label
on
it
and
there
it
is
I.
Do
want
to
add
that-
and
we
didn't
publicize
this
too
much,
because
we
didn't
want
to
be
just
a
generous,
but
we.
H
A
single
price
we
didn't
raise
our
tickets
for
any
of
our
concessions
prices
this
past
year,
even
though
we
faced
with
between
11
to
15
inflation,
almost
every
single
item,
probably
not
the
best
business
decision
from
a
prophecy
standpoint,
but
we.
E
H
Pretty
strongly
and
Ryan
for
our
owner
felt
pretty
strongly
that
we
didn't
want
to
pass
on
that
incredibly
High
inflation
to
everybody,
so
we're
pretty
proud
of
that.
Like
I
said
we
did
take
a
little
bit
of
a
hit
because
of
that.
But
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
to
show
you
guys
that
we
are
very,
very
much
committed
to
doing.
H
To
utilize
this
ballpark
for
the
benefit
of
our
community,
not
just
for
some,
you
know
privateering
business.
We
want
to
be
a
part
of
community.
We
want
to
be
a
key
staple
Community.
We
wanted
to
get
assets
for
for
Peter,
bishop
and
his
economic
developing
team
to
attract
businesses
to
this
community.
So
whatever
we
can
do,
we
obviously
will
always
do
that
with.
F
C
I
think
that's
something
to
leave
could
be
worth
that,
but
quite
frankly,
they're,
probably
better
at
marketing
than
we
are
I,
would
hope
so
Ryan
rehearsal
too
I
mean
yeah.
I
mean
it's
no
different
than
it's
just
a
way
to
think
of
getting
a
better
product
and
you're,
not
selling
a
soul
or
anything,
and
so
what?
If
somebody
signs
up
there,
I
mean
if
you
do
it
in
a
professional
manner?
It's
not
like
you
just
you
know,
you're,
throwing
anything
up
there.
C
But,
okay,
we
got
my
attention
when
you
took
these
pictures
off
1501
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
money
and
not
just
you
know
when
you
took
the
little
salmon
area
up
here
in
the
left
off,
and
then
you
took
the
other
part
of
the
middle
off.
That's
a
whole
different
concept.
Oh
yeah
I
think
it's
a
different
well
to
just
take
a
massage.
It's
Australia's,
the
runest
point
in
Harold's,
both
when
you
see
when
you
see
it.
The
way
it
is
I
am
an
advocate
of
doing
it
right
and
to
Harold's
point.
C
F
Would
help
what
I'm
Dr
Brian
Anderson
about
was
and
just
I'm
just
calling
this
a
portico
XYZ
reported
code
just
for
the
you
know,
heck
of
it
and
they
sell
it
for
500
000
a
thousand
hundred
thousand
a
year,
five
years
name
them
right.
So
it
seems
reasonable
to
me.
You
know
that
we
would
have
some
corporate
sponsor
here.
A
C
Is
someone
who
is
marketing
experience
and
certainly
break
this
facility
down
and
just
as
you
visualize
it
in
terms
of
areas,
it's
importance
you
know
is
the
air
in
the
standing
area
over
here
is
that
is
that
a
portion
of
an
importance
that
you
take
it
off?
That's
that
might
be
not
nearly
as
expensive
as
doing
the
main
part
there
with
the
extended
cover
or
over
here
in
the
Brickyard
down
here
on
the
white.
Obviously,
those
are
the
three
areas
that
kind
of
understand
about
it.
You
know
behind
that
Brickyard
on
the
right.
D
Good
here
what
this
area
up
here-
yes,
well,
you're
you're
in
kind
of
in
the
area
right,
so
you've
got
this
fenced
in
area.
D
H
H
Top
of
that
too,
that
area
makes
it
very
easy.
So
if,
in
all
season
like
we
hosted
the
coming
out,
black
and
white
ball
last
fall.
If
we
were
to
hopefully
host
that
again
in
the
future,
that
area
would
be
the
entrance
way
and
that
everybody's
pretty
much
in
that
area.
So
there's
no
strappers
that
all
the
way
down
to
the
third
base,
for
example,
so
there's
a
little
entryway
there's
a
concourse
area
over
there.
F
C
C
Questions
can
be
Is,
How,
We,
Do,
It,
legally
Bob
I'm,
not
mistaken,
you
did
the
Davidson
Park
thing.
You
indicated
to
me
that
we
had
to
put
together
a
policy.
Council
approve,
there's
a
contractor.
We
went
out
to
the
various
vendors
whether
it
was
bankers
and
shippers
in
or
labcor
whoever
it
was,
and
but
you
know
we
did
ourselves
and
at
that
one,
our
specialty.
That's
not
my
point.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
done.
C
H
H
How
much
parking
is
there
yeah,
so
parking
is,
is
an
issue
at
the
stadium
in
general,
which
is
a
good
thing
we
found
out
over
the
last
two
years.
H
Where
we
have
three
or
four
thousand
people
in
attendance
down
that
right
field
area,
there's
a
service,
there's
a
little
service
area,
a
road
where
a
lot
of
people
Park,
there's
about
I,
want
to
say
30
or
40
spots
in
that
area.
People
can
park
and
do
Park
along
the
street
as
well,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
through
traffic
and
then
we
utilize
Fairchild
for
job
parking
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
building,
as
well
as
really
he
unites
the
soccer.
The
soccer
park,
yeah.
C
D
I,
really,
you
know
this
with
the
decorative
fencing
and
the
great
homes.
Eventually,
you
know
if
you've
got
that
opportunity
to
really
tie
these
spaces
together
with
the
investment
the
councilman
here,
because
this
is
really
nice
to
complete
a
couple
years
ago
and
I
think
I
could
see
times
back
in
the
future.
Yeah
I'm
just
looking
at
longer.
C
So
what
is
the
what's
the
consensus
on
this
series
together,
full
version,
2.6
I,
think
I.
Think
we
try
to
be
trying
to
do
that
and
we
Implement
a
you
know
that
then
you
can
be
brought
back
a
marketing
concept
to
attempt
to
recruit
some
of
these
funds
because
the
reality
of
it
is-
and
this
is
that
most
of
these
groups-
that
if
you.
B
C
H
But
just
about
amount
of
money,
yeah
and
right
now,
I've
actually
started
working
on
a
deck
to
take
out
to
to
take
onto
potential
Partners
or
potential
people.
Who
may
believe
that
could
support
this
and
we've
had
some
discussions
internally
as
well
with.
I
With
this
new
menu
that
it
will
require
a
little
bit
of
application
to
our
existing
recruitment,
so
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
can
do
on
the
name
price
in
the
market
as
well.
So
it's
nice
to
have
a
good
partner
with
the
cycle.
H
J
Okay,
so
in
your
packet
there's
a
request
for
annexation.
This
is
associated
with
the
utility
request
for
water
and
sewer
for
the
property.
That's
highlighted
here
and
shown
on
the
map:
zero
housing
along
Lane,
it's
Pig
140996.
The
parcel
is
roughly
17
Acres,
it's
located
in
the
medium
density,
residential
roaming
District.
So
essentially,
the
request
is
for
water
and
sewer.
There's
no
Associated
development
proposal
associated
with
this,
but
we
would
anticipate
that
it
would
be
built
out
in
accordance
with
the
with
the
zoning.
J
C
K
I,
do
not
have
a
presentation
for
you
today,
these
slides
of
obtessity
and
doing
that
for
you.
I
will
have
a
couple
of
slides
for
tomorrow
evening's
discussion.
K
F
K
Ferguson
group,
at
the
federal
level,
with
Jennifer
Nemo
and
then
the
NC
League
of
municipalities.
We
work
very
closely
with
and
their
Metro
Mayors
group
for,
updates
on
different
legislation.
That's
occurring,
but
our
your
Professionals.
E
K
This
organization,
your
department,
heads
and
management
are
really
the
the
source
of
a
lot
of
the
city
specific
and
potential
earmarked
project
items
that
you'll
see
on
these
advocacy
goals
and
those
get
more
specific
to
the
City
of
Burlington.
The
first
page
represents
items
that
were
in
alignment
with
several
other
municipalities
and
a
lot
of
those
focus
on.
K
You
know:
local
control
issues,
Global
Revenue
options,
of
course,
being
a
Dylan
State,
we're
at
the
mercy
of
the
legislature
to
allow
us
to
do
X,
Y
or
Z
when
it
comes
to
revenue
or
taxation,
we're
looking
for
some
additional
opportunities
in
Economic,
Development
and
housing.
So
more
tools
in
the
toolbox,
as
we
like
to
say
in
the
economic
development
industry
raised
a
couple
concerns
about
I
mentioned
local
control,
but
also
some
environmental
things
that
have
been
going
on.
K
I
know
our
water
resources,
department
and
other
departments
have
dealt
a
lot
with
epoxy,
pfos
and
sort
of
the
the
changing
rules
of
an
APR
fee
for
what
those
parts
per
million
are
acceptable
at
the
federal
level
and
that
that's
you
know,
pressing
down
through
our
division
of
Environmental
Quality.
We.
K
Specific
from
our
Public
Safety
organizations,
police,
a
fire
that
go
to
direct
issues
that
they're
dealing
with
benefits
and
Longevity,
and
some
insurance
on
the
fire
department
side
from
Jim,
Edmond,
Chief,
Evan
there
and
then
from
Chief
long.
Something
you'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
later,
but
we're
also
including-
and
this
is
recruitment,
retention
and
other
things
around
law
enforcement
officers
and
how
the
state
could
possibly
be
a
stronger
partner
in
supporting
local
governments
and
some
of
our
recruiting
issues
in
public
safety.
A
Are
sort
of
the
highlights
the
the
projects
that
you
see
on
the
back
page,
that.
K
So
we
received
10
million
dollars
for
downtown
water
and
sewer
improvements
and
then
a
little
under
six
million
dollars
to
do
some
long-standing
economic
development
infrastructure
enhancements
that
really
from
our
project
activity
and
some
of
the
things
I'm
seeing
on
the
back
end
have
have
really
sort
of
unlocked
the
potential
of
some
land
around
our
airport.
So
we
were
successful
in
getting
some
projects,
not
all
of
our
federal
or
local
Representatives
have
the
same
opinions
on
earmarks
or
you
know,
plan
projects
Community
projects,
but
we
do.
K
We
do
feel
like
we
have
a
new
federal
representative
in
the
the
fourth
district,
Valerie
fushi,
and
then
a
Kathy
dating
remains
in
the
in
the
new
reshape
six
District
at
the
federal
level.
Previously
Ted
Bud,
who
is
now
our
U.S
senator,
was
in
the
sixth
district
and
Senator
bud
is
has
a
stance
just
philosophically
that
he
does
not
do
earmarked
projects,
but
we
still
have
Senator
Tillis
and
then
our
other
Federal
representatives
to
work
through
on
some
of
those
projects.
What
these?
These
really
are?
It's
not
a
wishlist
set
of
projects.
K
E
I
do
have
something
I'd
like
to
add
on
the
federal
level
and
that's
to
watch
a
build
H.R
6448,
which
is
titled
and
then
invest
to
protect
Act
and
it's
a
bipartisan
Bill
to
put
together
300
million
dollars
in
Grants
to
depart
police
departments,
fewer
than
125
officers
office
introduced
in
January
and
that's
still
alive.
Great.
I
Thank
you-
and
this
word
is
not
really
sure
how
we've
done
this
in
the
past.
But
one
thing
you
know
I
do
want
to
kind
of
advise
our
delegation,
especially
since
we
do
have
a
new
representative
in
Steve
Ross
at
the
local
level,
maybe
invite
them
to
a
breakfast
at
kind
of
a
casual
breakfast,
but
then
introduced
to
them
what
our
goals
are
and
requests
and
how
to
get
them.
That
laundry
list
to
go
to
the
about
the
emperor
I.
C
Think
we're
going
to
be
more
successful
if
they
understand
the.
Why?
Right,
if
we
could
give
them
the
back
story
a
little
bit,
and
some
of
this
we've
already
worked
on
either
from
a
from
a
future
commitment
or
for
we've
piece
milled
it
along.
So
sometimes
when
you
tie
all
that
together
in
a
and
a
narrative,
it's
going
to
give
us
I'll
give
them
a
lot
more
confidence
that
foreign.
C
I
I
But
if
that's
agreeable,
once
we
have
this
list
approved,
we
have
to
get
into
the
league
I
think
by
the
first
of
well
really
last
week,
but
we're
okay
on
the
time
frame.
But
we
were
probably
trying
to
set
that
up
in
January.
If
that
sounds
good,
excellent.
I
C
I
And
Mr
Mayor
I'll
start
off
the
discussion
and
I
appreciate
all
the
work.
That's
called
into
this
from
all
our
different
departments
and
finances
to
HR
to
Legal
to
the
PD.
Really
everybody's
had
some
input
on
this,
but
as
city
council
is
aware
of
one
of
the
biggest
issues
that
we
do
have
as
far
as
the
modernization
is
recruitment,
in
retention
not
only
of
police
officers
but
for
all
city
employees.
I
So
the
police
department
really
made
us
kind
of
focus
on
this
a
couple
months
ago,
and
you've
heard
great
presentation
from
the
chief
long
about
trying
to
flip
that
curve.
One
of
the
things
that
has
come
up
is
that
if
we
don't
lose
something
by
Spring,
we
could
be
down
40
percent
with
respect
to
our
officers,
and
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
do
is
try
to
get
ahead
of
this,
and
not
only
with
the
PD.
I
But
how
can
we
also
look
at
benefits
that
would
benefit
all
of
City,
so
we
lived
in
a
couple
of
different
things.
The
first
thing,
a
couple
of
things
that
we'll
talk
about,
would
really
be
city-wide
benefits
that
we
would
add
to
our
our
list
of
all
our
benefits.
First
is
paid
friendly.
The.
I
I
I
I
Would
would
be
we
would
give
them
six
weeks
of
paper
and
leave
for
all
regular
full-time
employees,
but
again
you
have
to
be
employed
with
the
city
for
a
minimum
of
a
12-month
period
of
prior
again,
it's
granted
on
the
birth
of
an
employee's
child
or
also
the
placement
of
a
child.
You
can
text
with
adoption
or
foster
care,
and
again
this
is
not
leak
charged
against
your
sick
time
or
vacation.
It
is
eligible
fmlately.
I
This
is
an
additional
six
weeks
that,
if
not
part
of
your
quote-unquote
bank
of
hours,
but
again
this
is
one
of
those
things
and
I
think
Chief
has
made
this
comment
before
this
is
kind
of
a
defensive
benefit
that
we're
looking
at
because
everybody
else
is
doing
this
around
us
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
as
competitive
as
we
can
be,
so
that's
a
benefit
that
all
employees
can
get.
I
The
second
benefit
we
were
looking
at
is
additional
sick
leave
and
again
this
goes
back
to
really
looking
at
anchor
points,
and
chief
just
mentioned
this
as
well
is
what
can
we
have
that
make
people
want
to
stay
with
the
City
of
Arlington
again,
this
would
be
available
for
all
city
employees,
but
it's.
A
I
Milestone
anniversaries
with
the
City
of
Burlington
at
8,
15
and
25
years
again.
You
have.
B
I
A
I
Thank
you
because
this
also
helps
him
as
they
move
forward
to
look
at
the
end
of
their
retirement
as
well.
Again,
this
is
another
kind
of
defensive
look,
but
Apex
Ronnie
and
Kerry
are
currently
offering
this
benefit.
I
believe
Peggy
said
that
Raleigh
has
looked
at
it
since
2009,
so
it
has
been
very
successful
for
those
communities,
but
it's
something
a
little
bit
different
than
what
normal
benefits
are.
C
C
I
I
Next
we're
looking
at
at
the
PD,
and
these
will
be
specific
for
the
PD,
because
if
everybody
understands
that
the
PB
has
certain
issues
that
they're
faced
with
that,
not
all
staff
were
faced
with,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
looked
at
and
as
she
said
that
this
is.
E
Really
an
offense
this.
I
Is
something
that
we
we
don't
know
many
people
doing
this,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we've
really
really
talked
about
is
no
health
of
our
employees
and
how
we
can
look
after
what
is
in
their
best
interests
and
again
this
would
be
available
to
All
Sport
employees.
This
wellnessly
and
again
it
goes
back
to
looking
at
those
anchor
points
of
7,
14
and
21
years.
So
at
the
end
of
The
Seven
Year,
you
are
eligible
to
receive
four
weeks
of
vacation
additional
above
and
beyond
what
you
currently
have.
I
So
you
have
to
take
it
in
a
block
of
time
and
chief,
if
a
mistaken,
please
correct
me
at
any
time,
but
the
purpose
of
that
is
making
sure
that
we're
letting
them
step
away
away
from
being
police
officers
with
the
stress
and
understanding
that
they
have
on
a
daily
basis.
We
don't
want
to
burn
our
people
out
so.
I
Give
them
those
additional
anchor
points
to
say
hey
if
I
say
another
year
or
two
I'll
have
four
weeks
off
and
that
I
can
just
step
away
and
kind
of
recharge
my
batteries
and
come
back.
You
know
even
a
better
officer
at
the
time,
so
this
is
a
little
bit
unique
and
different,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
felt
like
was
important
to
look
at
that
work-life
balance.
L
For
our
officers,
I
think
one
important
piece
of
this
is
this:
is
an
opt-in
benefit.
In
other
words,
the
officers
opt
into
it.
It
does
not
continue,
so
it
has
to
be
used
within
the
win
within
that
year.
That
I'm
bringing
the
offer
on
the
table
is.
Is
that
the
amount
of
time
that
they
take?
They
truly
have
to
separate
from
the
profession
for
that
time.
L
So
if
they
take
two
weeks
and
they
they
go,
take
care
of
themselves
for
two
weeks
and
they're
ready
to
come
back,
then
we
would
allow
that
for
them
to
come
by,
but
they
would
not
get
the
continued
or
additional
two
weeks
at
some
later
time,
it's
a
user
or
loser
program.
This
is
really
about
Wellness.
L
There
are
a
lot
of
studies
out
there
that
talk
about
the
survivability
of
a
police
career,
and
this
is
really
truly
an
intentional
effort
for
us
to
give
people
very
measured
and
from
at
very
measured
increments,
an
opportunity
to
take
that
four-week
period
and
really
just
re-energizing
itself,
for
what
is
one
can
be
a
long.
Taxing
career
I
certainly
have
my
own
story.
If
you
wish
to
hear
everyone
want
to
hear
more
about
the.
M
Our
foreign
police
officers,
so
they're
obviously
gained
sickly,
leading
up
to
yourself
because
at
the.
L
I
C
L
L
D
E
L
I
You
can't
talk
about
benefits
without
also
talking
about
pay
in
all
honesty,
we're
in
our
first
with
counties
and
surrounding
cities
as
well.
I
think
I've
told
you
the
story
when
I
was
in
Wayne
County,
we
had
race
taxes
last
year,
just
for
fun
salaries,
because
we
were
in
an
arms
race
with
Johnson
County.
We
were
an
armed
racial
weight
Captain.
So
we
are
very
much
cognizant
of
how
much
we
or
where
we're
at
what
we're.
I
I
For
forty
six
thousand
five
hundred
to
sixty
five
thousand
four
left
again
and
I
will
look
at
every
officer
foreign
officer
that
we
have
an
increase
of
almost
nine
thousand
miles,
but
this
is
very
aggressive.
We
know
it's
very
aggressive,
but
one
of
the
things
we
did
not
want
to
have
to
do
is
come
back
to
you
in
six
months
and
say:
oh
by
the
way,
we
did
not
add
enough
at
the
last
meeting.
I
This
would
give
us
something
to
work
on
work
for
so
we
feel
very
good
about
those
numbers,
but
that's
the
adjustment,
but
also
as
part
of
this
is
salary
raises
one
of
the
things
again
talking
about
Anchor
Point.
We
talked
about
the
every
have
by
any
race,
that's
built
into
our
paper
for
sworn
officers.
Again.
That
will
be
a
two
percent
raise
a
bank
of
you
know
that
would
be
paid
out
in
November
and
March.
A
H
I
On
top
of
the
2.3
percent
that
we
do
first
of
the
year
until
I
won
for
current
performance-based
paypoint,
so.
I
Be
a
possibility
if
somebody
is
in
good
standing
with
the
organization.
A
6.3
percent
guaranteed
raise
again
buying
raises
would
be
paid
out
in
November
and
March
again
with
our
distribution
in
July,
but.
I
What
we
were
looking
at
is
that
we
know
that
this
may
need
to
Sunset.
The
thought
process
is
once
we
get
to
85
of
our
Deployable.
I
Then,
the
next
month
we
would
not
not
no
longer
do
the
additional
two
percent
and
again
the
thought
process
on
having
a
four-month
average
is
we
didn't
want
to
have
to
go
back
and
flip
on
and
off
you.
I
This
month
well
next
month
we're
at
70.,
so
we
have
to
turn
it
back
on,
so
we
wanted
to
see
make
sure
that
this
was
working
moving
forward.
So
again,
we
feel
like
85,
of
Deployable,
fully
trained
officers.
E
I
We
can
sustain
it
that
two
percent
additional
wouldn't
that
longer
be
given
so.
C
With
that
being
said,
then
correct,
you
said
6.3
percent,
that's
it
for
the
buying
one
two
percent
raise
and
if
else
will
continue
parent
performance
basically
possible
up
to
six
points.
Three
percent
yep
so
help
me
out.
Then
the
two
percent
is
everything
is
based
on
their
performance
over
each
six
months.
If
they
perform
an
acceptable
level,
that
would
be
a
two
percent
increase
Washington
fiscal
year.
Yes,
sir,
the
2.3
is
what
then
go
out.
One
is
your:
is
your
gel
out?
One
are.
I
Again,
the
current
performance-based
raise
the
2.3
yeah,
the
2.3.
L
So
in
2019
the
city
adopted
a
different
pay
plan
for
officers
as
a
part
of
that
paper
plan.
When
it
was
adopted,
it
was
a
set
2.3.
The
employee
has
to
meet
at
least
the
minimum
standards
of
the
organization,
but
that's
the
number
that
a
part
of
that,
but
then
they
are
also
not
available
for
the
city's
greater
merit-based
plan,
which
is
for
for
maker
City
staff.
L
So
that's
where
the
2.3
in
July
comes
from
this
two
percent
in
November
and
proposed
April
would
really
align
with
that
every
four
months
them
being
able
to
see
right
just
got
a
raise
and
not
too
far.
You
know
four
more
months
if
their
performance
is
doing
well,
then
they're
eligible
for
that
in.
E
B
L
Escalates
the
employee's
salary
quicker.
So
this
is
to
play
defense
against
that
strategy.
We're
about.
C
C
I
And
speaking
of
budget,
there
is
a
cost,
that's
associated
with
this.
For
our
current
year,
we're
projecting
about
1.6
million
dollars
in
Alaska.
That's
funds
already
budgeted
it's
based
upon
not
having
officers
to
fill
those
positions
again.
If,
if
we
get
to
full
Staffing,
Chief
is
looking
at
maybe
three
or
four
years.
Hopefully,
if
we,
if
we
can
Trend
it
correctly,
but
once
we
get
full
Staffing
at
145,
we.
I
L
L
That's
where
we
talk
about
the
12
of
us
on
as
far
as
hired
individuals,
I
have
123
people
hired
for
police
officer
jobs,
but
as
far
as
currently
deployment,
which
means
fully
trained
Financial
conference
servers
by
themselves,
I
have
104.,
but
that
number
also
does
not
include
other
what
I
call
other
typical
HR
situations:
FMLA,
short-term
disabilities,
injured,
injured,
reserve
those
types
of
things
so
123.
E
L
I
apparently
have
104
deployment.
Does
that
means
you
have
104
on
the
street?
That's
that's.
What
is
your
goal?
What's
your
goal
to
have
on
the
street
no
BS
me
now,
yeah
no
I
mean
there's
a
number
where
we
talk
about
fully
functioning
fully
service
provided
right,
which
is
exactly
where
we
always
want
to
be.
We
won't
be
able
to
provide
full
service
around
the
clock
across
all
divisions.
L
We're
not
there
right,
I
have
had
to,
or
from
other
specialized
divisions
just
to
have
enough
officers
right
now
on
the
street
I
need
about
135
to
get
it
all
done
and
be
able
to
put
detectives
back
at
a
rate
that
would
be
I.
Think
where
the
city
council
would
be
happy,
so
I
need
to
get
to
135.
I'll.
Take
the
145.
that
135.
L
L
E
C
C
L
Went
down
to
135.,
so
there's
two
components:
I
think
you
can
get
us
to
success
quickly.
The
first
one
is
retaining
our
current
staff
that
we've
already
trained
and
have
a
huge
investment
in
their
most
important
day-to-day
players
right
now.
The
second
one
is:
we've
got
to
move
lateral
employees
that
are
or
with
other
police
agencies,
because
I
can
cut
the
training
time
down
significantly.
L
I
can
get
them
to
that
Deployable
status
in
about
three
or
four
months
versus
truly
almost
11
to
12
months.
So
those
are
the
two
things
and
when
we
look
at
you
know
the
slide
before
the
fiscal
management
or
the
cost
slide.
That
price
point
that
we're
asking
for
to
pay
a
police
officer
I
believe
truly
probably
begins
to
move
levels.
C
L
L
Part
of
this
is
about
that
long-term
return
on
investment
right
retention
basis
about
just
acknowledging
the
current
staff
and
I
want
to
speak
and
learn
part.
If
you
allow
me
to
real
Grace,
the
officers
that
have
remained
have
carried
the
load
they
have
carried
about
heavy
load.
Their
days
have
been
cut
short.
L
We
pride
ourselves
at
this
place
for
our
mental
training
that
I've
not
been
able
to
train
them
at
the
level
that
I
should
be
able
to,
and
they've
done,
more
calls
for
service.
So
undoubtedly,
they've
carried
a
load
and
I
think
between
this
package
of
benefits,
hopefully,
will
demonstrate
the
value
that
we
have
in
them
and
then
it'll
move
the
other
folks.
C
Meeting
but
long
term
should
it
not.
If
you
can
laterally
bring
someone
in
and
try
to
go
to,
work
and
you've
got
a
you've
got
everything's
baked
in
biennials.
That's
right,
yeah,
yeah!
That's
that's!
Really!
The
key
is
getting
that
person
ready
to
come
in
here,
and
let
me
ask
you
this:
if
you
do
a
lateral
transfer
from
whatever
position
you
pick
it,
how
long
do
you
think
it
would
take
you
to
bring
that
first
depends
on
a
person
option
to
come
in
including
a
job
and
went
over
for
her
to
go
to
work.
L
A
L
And
post
Academy
at
six
weeks
and
then
I
have
to
have
a
certain
number
of
hours
at
least
160
hours
of
in
the
field.
Training
I'm
waiting
a
little
more
than
that
intentionally,
because
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
release
them
from
filtering
they're
safe.
But.
L
About
a
three
and
a
half:
what
is
that
investment?
L
L
Then
you
then
you're,
basically
looking
at
salary
and
a
little
bit
of
money
to
compensate
the
field,
training
officers,
it's
much
less
yeah
and
now
to
get
too
far
into
the
weeds,
but
usually
within
the
first
four
or
five
years
of
an
officer's
experience
as
a
an
officer
they're
going
to
get
what
we
call
the
core
competency
classes,
we're
going
to
send
them
to
a
series
of
classes
each
year
to
build
on
their
Court
competencies
oftentimes
when
we
have
a
when
we
have
a
lateral
iron
they've
already
completed.
L
C
Advantage
to
the
level
of
Art
and
we're
filled
in
the
gaps
between
those
that
are
really
new
and
those
that
are
real,
experienced
and
retiring
now
assistant,
we're
able
to
backfill
that
with
some
sort
of
mid-career
experience.
That
is
basically
what
I'm
hearing
and
and
talking
with
you
guys.
That's
what
we're
losing
that's
correct.
I
But
we
we
have,
the
staff
recommendation
is,
and
you
have
a
copy
of
postmortem
changes,
especially
to
the
sitcom
external
leave
in
front
of
you.
We
would
like
to
put
that
on
the
agenda
for
discussion
and
possibly
approvals
tomorrow,
and
then
that
would
also
approve
the
salary
changes
as
well.
Today,.
I
Yeah
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
and
what's
been
done
here
too
I,
get
that
all
the
steps
is
that
I
think
also.
Some
of
the
things
that
were
done
for
the
non-sworn
officer
in
the
environment
will
also
be
more
beneficially
required.
It's
a
little,
creating
two
different
classes
with
individuals
well
and
and
I
truly
want
to
thank
the
work
from
the
pde
and
again
HR
and
finance
and
Peggy,
and
and
also
the
input
that
we've
had
from
the
city
council
from
our
last
Workshop.
I
C
C
L
To
compress
that
yeah,
so
you
know
I
would
say
the
last.
This
has
been
in
place
since
early
spring.
We
made
some
modifications.
We
realized
some
things
within
the
agency
prior
to
that
we
had
two
part-timers,
a
full-time
professional
staff
member
and
then
the
the
hiring
unit
per
se
was
overseen
by
a
lieutenant
that
did
not
have
like
day-to-day
operational
responsibility.
L
But
quite
honestly,
it's
not
not
only
that.
It's
the
way
that
they've
approached
it
I
have
been
blessed
recently
with
doing
some
new
hair
interviews
trying
to
onboard
some
new
folks.
We
take
them
from
day
one
and
we
treat
them
almost
like
a
college
life
or
like
a
college
recruitment
right.
It
is
upfront,
proactive
Communications
with
each
each
person.
That's
a
candidate,
not
all
of
them
will
make
it.
We
know
that,
but
we
don't
treat
them
any
different
right.
L
We
are
proactive
with
that
that
candidate,
helping
them
get
the
things
that
they
need,
making
sure
that
they're
supported
through
the
process.
That's
really
made
a
huge
difference:
I
I'm,
very
hopeful
and
I-
don't
have
much
doubt,
but
between
what
we've
done
in
that
work
group
and
the
hard
work
that
they've
been
doing
and
then
now
you
have
this.
L
Now,
of
course,
I'm
sure
my
staff
would
want
to
hear
that
we
want
to
turn
that
switch
off
or
say
that
sunset
come,
but
we
didn't
right,
I
think
the
pressures
that
will
be
taken
off
of
the
department
when
we
use
when
we
get
our
staff
and
back
to
a
level
that
needs
to
be
with
offsetting.
Any
of
that.
I
And,
and
one
thing
in
conversations
with
the
mayors
has
said
well-
is
the.
I
To
take
this
aggressive
step,
you
need
to
see
your
return
on
investment
as
well,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
that
we
give
you
updates
on
on
hires
and
and
those
that
leave
and
and
we'll
work
with
HR
and
and
make
sure
that
that
you
get
all
the
information
you
need
to
see.
If
this
work
is
going
to
be
successful
about
them,
and
we
do
believe
that
it
will
be
because
this
is
very,
very
impressive.
L
You
know,
for
a
long
time,
we've
had
a
standard
of
hiring
the
right
person
to
do
this
for
this
job.
That
won't
change
right.
So
there
are
times
that
application
applicants
come
through
and
they
just
aren't
qualified
to
do
the
role
that
hasn't
changed.
We're
not
lowering
the
standard.
We
don't
want
to
do
that.
Don't
think
the
city
would
ask
us
to
do
that,
but
we're
very
intentional
about
aggressively
recruiting
highly
qualified
candidates
that
are
ready
to
go
out
there
to
make
a
difference.
Make
a
change
foreign.
C
L
C
This
this
amendment
to
our
code
now
is
sort
of
a
rough
draft.
It
is
okay,
correct.
A
A
C
That
one
of
the
the
bottom
left
icon.
J
Okay,
so
in
your
packet
there
are
six
items
that
were
part
of
the
October
24th
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
recommendations.
I'll
start
with
Catherine
here.
J
J
This
is
a
limited
use,
rezoning
request
during
the
course
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
process
the
applicant
came
in,
they
did
have
a
neighborhood
meeting,
they
reduced
the
number
of
limited
use
requested
uses
from
45
to
35,
so
in
your
packet,
you'll
see
the
amended
list
which
we
did
have
the
applicant,
come
to
the
last
planning,
time
and
commission
meeting
and-
and
there
were
members
of
the
audience
present,
but
there
was
nobody
who
spoke
against
this
request.
The
request
was
recommended
unanimously.
J
J
It
is
Anthony
Road,
Anthony,
Court
and
Anthony
quartz
cat
is
right
in
here.
J
J
So
this
is
two
six
three
five
West
Front
Street,
and
this
was
a
request
by
Elon
University,
the
property,
it's
three
properties
and
it's
split
zones.
It's
when
the
their
solar,
solar
Fields
is
the
left
division
and
then
college
has
existing
facilities
on
this
site
they're.
So
you
can
only.
J
There
were
some
Neighbors
from
across
the
street,
who
did
have
some
questions
regarding
what
the
extent
of
the
development
would
be.
We
don't
have
the
development
plan
associated
with
this.
Yet
so
we
don't
exactly
know
what
might
be
there,
but
it
could
be
more
more
uses
associated
with
their
ads.
It
could
have
some
sort
of
dormitory
tiny
homes
configuration
we've
heard
discussions
about,
but
staff
is
also
recommending
that
this
requested
for
your
December
6th
public
hearing
date
as
well.
J
I'll
mention
this
one
briefly,
because
we
did
receive
an
email
from
the
applicant
today
asking
for
this
item
to
be
withdrawn.
So
this
was
part
of
the
packet
that
went
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
after
October
24th
meeting
staff
is
recommending
the
rezoning,
but
considering
we've
just
gotten
that
most
recent
request
we're
going
to
table
this
item.
J
All
right,
Anthony
Road-
this
is
a
requester
he's
on
the
property,
from
medium
density,
residential
to
light
industrial
consistent
with
the
future
land
use
designation
for
that
area,
and
it
allows
a
business
business
owner
to
expand
their
business
in
Burlington.
Staff
is
also
recommending
this
to
be
considered
for
December
6th.
J
Okay
and
then
the
last
last
rezoning
request
is
Kirkpatrick
Road.
This
is
your
request
for
these
properties
here
to
the
Zone.
There's
a
slivered
parcel
at
the
intersection,
that's
o
and
I,
and
the
remaining
portion
is
meeting
intensity
residential.
The
applicant
is
seeking
this
to
be
changed
to
high
density
residential
to
the
Bay
10,
build
a
single
family
or
multi-family
consistently
with
high
density
residential
intensities
and
uses.
J
C
C
J
L
M
Is
our
10th
round
of
amendments,
so
we
are
old
hands
at
this
seems
like
a
lot
but
keep
in
mind.
You
know:
we've
been
working
on
this
ordinance
for
four
years
now.
We've
had
a
lot
of
change
since
then,
and
not
only
our
conditions
are
changing,
but
also
the
the
legislative
round
if
we
operate
and
it's
also
changing
so
as
we
have
done
in
the
past,
we've
tried
to
organize
this
round
of
changes
into
three
groups:
those
that
are
austerity
related
to
those
that
pertain
to
bettering
the
business
climate
here
in
Burlington.
Those.
B
M
Is
doing
I
have
18
areas
of
revision
about
things
very
very
quickly
for
you,
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
stop
me
and
we
can
go
look
at
the
draft
text
at
your
convenience.
So
there
are
approximately
four
or
five
Community
Prosperity
changes.
The
first
is
the
inclusion
of
a
new
Zone
permit
procedure.
This
is
a
a
process.
That's
that
we
would
use
for
staff
to
consider
to
minimize
things
things
that
don't
require
voting
permits,
like
small
sheds,
also
the
ability
to
establish
a
public
art
or
mural.
M
We
go
through
this
new
zoning
permit
procedure
again.
Administrative
in
nature,
we've
had
great
success
with
the
limited
use
rezoning
schema.
Most
of
the
resumes
that
are
coming
through
the
process
seem
to
be
limited
use
for
zonings,
so
that
has
been
a
positive
for
us
and
we
just
needed
to
tweet
clarify
that
we're
going
to
ask
applicants
to
list
those
uses
that
would
be
proposed
or
allowed
not
those
use
of
typically
prohibited
done
for
the
sake
of.
A
M
In
in
future
years,
excited
to
talk
about
EV
charging
stations,
we
all
understand
that
this
is
a
wave
of
the
future,
and
so
what
we
are
suggesting
with
EP
charging
is
recognizing
those
EV
charging
stations
as
one
of
the
enhancements
that
you
might
see
in
a
planned
development
request
and
also
offering
sustainable
development
incentives
for
those
applicants
who
voluntarily
choose
to
include
a
a
charging
station
as
part
of
their
development.
M
We
have
dipped
our
toe
into
tiny
homes.
Again,
the
housing
crisis,
that's
in
place
is
definitely
being
felt
here
in
Burlington.
We
are
always
looking
for
ways
to
create
more
housing
options
for
the
folks
who
live
here
and
folks
who
want
to
move
here
and
to
those
ends.
We've
added
some
tiny
home
Provisions
into
the
UDF,
we're
recognizing
three
basic
kinds:
those
tiny
homes
that
are
manufactured,
in
other
words,
built
off-site
and
brought
to
the
site
Foundation.
We
have
to
treat
them
a
special
way,
a
set
of
movable
tiny
homes.
M
Those
are
the
ones
that
you
might
see
on
TV,
the
ones
that
have
wheels
and
Chassis
that
people
like
to
move
around
and
then
finally
cycle
those
tiny
homes
that
would
be
built
on
site
on
their
permanent
foundation.
We
have
established
use
standards
and
accessory
use
provisions
for
all
types
of
tiny
homes,
essentially
the
the
elevator
conversation
version
of
this
is.
M
We
have
created
the
ability
to
allow
manufactured
tiny
homes
in
a
couple
of
extra
zoning
districts
than
what
might
be
permitted.
Today,
we
haven't
really
made
much
change
in
terms
of
the
movable
tiny
homes
those
are
treated
as
RVs.
You
can't
live
in
a
movable,
tiny
home,
it's
not
allowed
under
the
building
code,
so
it's
not
allowed
in
the
UVO
and
then
finally,
the
site,
Bill,
tiny
home
I,
encourage
you
to
watch
where
we
go
with
that
in
the
future.
M
M
M
E
M
This
conditional
zoning
option
for
a
manufacturing,
tiny
home,
the
tiny
home
movable
only
permitted
inside
of
our
general
business
district.
You
must
be
inside
an
RV
park
to
have
a
movable,
tiny
home,
okay
and
you
cannot
live
permanently
yeah
the
building
code.
Finally,
the
site
built
tiny
home
you'll
note
that
those
districts
are
identical
to
where
you
can
build
a
single
family,
detached
residential
growth.
Okay,
so
that's
where
they're
familiar.
E
M
Some
kind
of
incentives
that
Mike
draw
somebody
into
actually
building
something
like
that.
Why?
Because
I
can
build
a
house
today,
that's
small,
you
know
and
I
don't
have
to
call
it
a
tiny
home.
So
what
is
it
that
we
can
offer
from
a
regulatory
standpoint,
incentivize
tiny
homes,
we're
still
working
on
that?
If
we
come
back
to
the
classified
as
Antonio?
M
Well,
we
have
established
some
basic
standards
for
what
a
tiny
home
is.
That
is
square
footage
right
now
we
set
it
at
500
square
feet
with
that
25
25.
M
So
you
know
a
covenant
could
come
in
and
where
we
might
permit
a
tiny
home
from
being
a
covenant
could
stop
that
from
happening.
Trying.
D
B
M
Be
okay
that
would
eliminate
them.
One
thing
I
do
want
to
mention
for
sure.
Is
you
know
we're
not
allowed
to
establish
a
minimum
square
footage?
The
statutes
have
changed.
We
cannot
do
that.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
the
maximum
which
we
can't
set
a
minimum
threshold.
A
covenant
can
a
regulation
can
opt.
C
A
E
C
M
Been
working
on
this
for
several
months
now,
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
with
staff,
and
we
have
it
at
a
place
where
you
know
we're
able
to
make
meaningful
distinctions
between
manufactured
and
movable
we're,
not
really
there
in
terms
of
the
site
built
standards.
Yet
there
is
nothing
in
what
we've
drafted
today.
M
That
would
compel
somebody
to
say:
wow,
I
really
want
to
do
a
tiny
home
development,
because
the
rules
that
we're
using
are
identical
to
single-family
homes
with
a
couple
of
extra
layers
of
Standards
such
as
you
know,
it
can't
be
bigger
than
500
square
feet.
I
think
where
the
magic
is,
if
there
is
Magic
to
these
kinds
of
uses,
is
for
us
to
find
some
ways
to
incentivize
these
kinds
of
things
from
happening
where
you
know
you
could
come
in
and
do
a
higher
yield.
M
If
you
did
tiny
homes
subject
to
some
additional
standards,
some
additional
design
controls,
that's
I,
think
where
the
magic
is
for
us
and
we're
still
working
internally
to
try
to
solve
that
and
bring
you
something
that's
intelligible
and
then
we
in
the
meantime,
we
felt
it
was
important
to
recognize
this
year's
life,
which
is
why
we've
included
it
the
European
package.
M
You
know
the
standards
that
we're
suggesting
for
for
your
Udo
are
among
some
of
the
best,
or
at
least
some
of
the
most
comprehensive
here
in
the
state.
So
we
are,
we
are
trying
go
back
to
my
regular
size
here,
a
couple
more
to
talk
about
in
terms
of
the
community
Prosperity
changes.
M
We
have
reduced
some
of
the
parking
standards,
there's
a
guest
parking
standard
for
multi-family,
which
we've
dropped.
We've
been
looked
at
the
Institute
of
Traffic
Engineers
numbers
just
not
really
supported
by
best
practice
to
require
that
extra
one
quarter
of
a
space
per
unit,
so
we're
suggesting
it
be
removed.
We've
raised
the
the
maximum
amount
of
square
footage
that
you
need
in
order
to
require
a
parking
space.
In
other
words,
we've
simplify
the
farmers.
Marketing
I
can
have
a
bigger
farmers
market
with
not
as
many
spaces,
so
so
we're
trying
to
make
that
easier.
M
J
30
of
this
parking
can
be
Compact
and
that's
it
that
happens.
A
Know
a
lot
of
that
is
now
set
by
Statute.
It's
a
bad
statue
you're
trying
to
get
in
one
of
those
places.
It's
horrible.
M
Especially
if
you
drive
big
trucks,
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
prohibited
exterior
materials
staff
is
getting
numerous
applications
these
days
for
commercial
development
that
is
wanting
to
use
metal
as
a
primary
exterior
material
and
nine
times
out
of
ten.
That
could
be
an
okay
thing.
It's
the
one
time
out
of
the
tent,
that's
not
good,
and
it
happens
visible
where
that
can
be
a
problem.
So
today,
current
video
prohibits
use
of
metal
on
the
primary
facade
of
the
building,
the
building
that
faces
the
street.
M
They
are
set
currently
at
24
square
feet
in
size
for
flags.
With
a
30
foot
five
pole
there
was
a
suggestion
to
to
increase
that
both
the
flagpole
height
and
the
flex
size,
and
there
was
a
further
request
by
the
planning
board
that
I'll
mention
in
a
moment
for
an
additional
revision.
So
I'll
come
to
that
in
a
moment
they
they
wanted
to
to
raise
those
a
little
bit
more
than
what
we
that
is
it
for
the
prosperity
changes
again.
A
M
Used
to
be
able
to
regulate
based
on
this
is
the
U.S
flag
or
the
North
Carolina
flag,
or
with
this
flag
or
that
flag,
and
then
there
was
a
big
change
in
the
Supreme
Court
and
it
took
our
ability
to
regulate
that
way
off
the
table
for
us
now.
We
do
allow
any
governmental
Flags
to
be
Exempted
from
these
rules,
but
private
sector
Flags,
whether
that's
a
school
or
a
commercial
facility
or
any
other
kind
of
institution.
B
M
M
We
need
taller
poles
and
we
need
electric
Flags,
so
we
are
in
it
we're
we're
trying
to
respond
to
those
requests
without
permitting
the
Stamping
World
version
of
you
know
the
very,
very,
very
large
flag,
and
so
where,
where
we
are
with
this
standard
today,
based
on
what
was
requested
by
the
planning
board,
is
a
60
square
foot
flag
which
allows
you
to
have
your
standard
issue
military
flag,
okay,
which
is
a
little
bit
smaller
than
60
square
feet
with
a
40
foot
tall
flag
pole,
and
that's
that's
the
happy
balance
that
we've
landed
on.
M
Obviously
any
flagpole
has
to
be
set
back
from
All
rights
of
way,
a
distance
equivalent
to
the
height
of
the
flagpole.
There's
some
limitations
of
the
number
of
flags
you
can
have
Etc,
but
those
are
the
basic
standards
that
have
sort
of
landed
on
after
a
lot
of
discussion
with
the
community
and
discussion
with
things.
M
Quest
was
based
on
the
fact
that
40
square
feet
was
insufficient
to
accommodate
a
federal
military
flag,
which
I
guess
is
bigger
than
40
square.
C
M
So
those
are
the
the
the
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
The
prosperity
related
amendments
I've
got
a
handful
of
kind
of
precision
related
very
quickly.
M
When
we
drafted
to
Udo
the
your
planning
department
had
a
different
name,
so
we've
changed
it
to
what
the
name
is
we're
using
today,
which
is
just
the
planning
department,
the
zero
side,
zero
lot
line,
side
setbacks
for
party
walls.
These
are
like
townhouses
things
like
that.
We
didn't
list
single-family
attached
uses
in
the
HDR
and
Dr
districts,
where
those
uses
are
permitted,
so
We've
Ended
those
Staples
to
recognize
single
family
manufactured
users.
We
have
some
multi-family
maximum
building
length,
standards,
250
linear
feet,
which
we're
suggesting
to
be
removed.
M
If
you've
included
a
central
Gathering
area
or
an
outdoor
sort
of
heating
facility,
or
something
like
that
in
the
building
run,
then
we
would
say
we
wouldn't
apply
this
maximum
building
length
to
you,
I
mentioned
earlier
that
we've
created
this
zoning
permit
procedure.
The
current
code
requires
any
public
art
or
mural
to
go
through
a
site
plan.
M
We
felt
was
a
bit
over
us
and
that
probably
could
handle,
via
a
zoning,
permit
some
clarity
on
fences
within
required
Landscaping
buffers.
If
you
would
like
to
have
a
fence
in
your
Landscaping
buffer,
you
may
do
so
and
including
that
allows
you
to
reduce
the
width
of
the
buffer,
provided
the
defense
runs
into
the
full
length
of
the
buffer
and
provided
with
that
fence
be
located
within
10
feet
of
a
while
okay.
M
Further
clarification
for
Type
e
buffers
along
interstates
and
railroads,
and
so,
if
I'm,
developing
next
to
an
interstate
or
a
railroad,
right-of-way,
there's
an
expectation
that
I'll
include
a
type
D
landscape
buffer
adjacent
to
that
Interstate
or
railroad.
A
couple
minor
typos
on
pages
5
14
and
7
6.
we've
simplified
the
banner
length
standards
it
used
to
be
tied
to
the
building
facade.
The
percentage
of
the
building
facade
link,
let's
just
go
down,
which
is
what
painters
are
built
to
so
we've
simplified
that
another
example
of
a
loophole
is
number
16.
M
We
are
suggesting
that
the
passive
open
space
Provisions
in
chapter
7
be
revised
to
clarify
that
you
cannot
use
passive
open
space
as
a
means
to
reduce
your
street
setback.
We
had
people
that
were
putting
in
a
cursory
amount
of
open
space
adjacent
to
a
street
and
allowing
the
buildings
to
come
closer
to
the
street,
which
is
issue
for
us
for
one
right-of-way
maintenance
and
protection,
so
that
was
a
loophole
that
needed
to
be
closed.
Finally,
just
additional
clarity
about
that
secondary
building
wall.
Remember,
we
talked
about
the
metal.
M
Walls
were
ones
that
you
can
see
from
the
street,
not
just
that.
Faced,
that's
it
on
the
clarity.
Questions
on
these
I
have
one
more
to
talk
about.
If
it's
legal
session
law
202262
changed
the
Appellate
body
for
administratively
decided
subdivision.
So
your
exempt.
M
D
M
A
request
that
we
told
the
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
that
we
would
look
into
and
we're
still
looking
at
and
that
is
there
was
a
request
to
apply
a
limitation
to
the
total
number
of
uses
that
could
be
incorporated
into
a
limited
use,
resuming
request,
not
sure
that's
legal,
we're
still
working,
send
it
again.
So
remember
the
first
zoning
case
that
you
had
tonight
came
in
and
there.
M
And
then
that
got
whittled
down
to
25
and
there
was
some
some
consternation
on
the
part
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
that
these
limited
use
applications
were
still
coming
in
with
too
many
uses
too
many
options.
They
are
very
broad,
so
they
are
well.
You
have
to
sort
of
take
all
of
the
uses
that
would
be
promised
people
in
the
corresponding
conventional
zoning
District,
and
so
the
request
was.
Can
we
find
a
way
to
limit
this
and
we're
still
looking
at?
That
I
mean
that's
kind
of
a
contract
zoning
issue.
M
M
Shouldn't
that
be
where
we
move
those
people
towards
well
they've
always
got
that
option.
You
know
we
built
a
limited
use
as
a
way
to
sort
of
facilitate
and
and
simplify
the
process,
and
it
seems
to
be
working
I.
Think
the
majority
of
the
reserving
cases
you're
giving
is
working
until.
C
We
get
burned
and
when
we
get
burned
it's
going
to
be
over
so
if
we
can
keep
it
so
that
it's
flowing
and
it's
digestible
for
everyone,
the
property
owners
around
everything's,
good,
but
but
I
agree
this
thing's
broad.
If
you
see
them
with
five
uses,
it's
like
all
right.
We
can.
You
know
we
can
reasonably
navigate
through
this,
but
when
you
see
35
uses
and
there's
three
on
there,
that
you're,
like
boy
I,
hope
they
don't
do
that
right
and
all
of
a
sudden
they
do
now
we're
going
to
have
an
issue.
M
Well,
you
know
this
is
conditional
zoning
and
therefore
it
is
within
your
legislative
discretion
to
apply
a
condition
to
a
limited
user
zoning.
So
let's
say
that
if
one
came
into
35-
and
you
said
gosh,
you
know
there's
three,
there
boy
I
hope
he
doesn't
do
a
nuclear
reactor
or
you
know
medical
waste
disposal
whatever
whatever
the
use
might
be.
You
know
you
could
incorporate
in
your
recommendation
or
your
decision
on
that
application
to
not
permit
those
uses.
Even
though
the
applicant
has
requested.
M
Applicant
has
to
accept
that
in
writing.
Otherwise
it's
not
binding
so.
A
M
A
matter
of
policy
better
their
request
without
them
having
the
ability
to
agree
or
not,
and
that's
where
the
this
this
notion
of
well,
we
want
to
limit
the
uses
to
five
or
six
which
five
which
six
and
how
do
we
reach
that
number?
What's
the
basis
for
that
is
kind
of
the
issue
that
we're
trying
to
work
through
in
pursuit
of
the
request,
we
would
encourage
as
a
staff-
that's
not
the
large
amount
of
use
of
them,
but
so
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
part
of
our
role
is
to
guide
them
towards.
C
J
And
have
the
conversations
with
them
and
that
really
works
successfully
in
that
in
that
last
case,
but
neighborhood
beings
are
not
are
not
mandatory
as
part
of
this
process.
So
it's
certainly
on
the
applicants.
If
they
want
to
do
that,
and
the
planning
and
doing
a
commission
could
do
the
same
thing,
they
could
recommend
less
uses
as
well
and
still
proceed
with
the
process
to.
C
M
That's
right
and
you
you
also
have
that
that
ability
to
have
that
negotiated
discussion.
The
the
issue
is
just
making
sure
that
the
applicant
agrees.
You
know
if
the
applicant
doesn't
agree,
then
you
would
deny
the
conditional
resulting
when
you
start
over,
but
what
we
don't
want
to
get
into
is
negotiation
during.
B
M
So,
everybody's
on
the
same
thing
and
and
you're
within
your
right
to
make
that
request
of
the
applicant
and
they're
within
their
right
to
agree
or
disagree.
So
that's
definitely
an
Avenue
that
you
could
explore
and.
D
M
C
M
C
M
Indeed,
indeed-
and
you
know
where
we've
explored
it,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
we
found
anything-
that's
it's
like
legally
acceptable
yet,
but
certainly
you've
got
that
Avenue
and
so
we'll
go
back
and
keep
Cameron
on
that.
So
you
know
our
our
request
is
that
we
would
have
the
public
hearing
on
the
12th
I'm.
M
Sorry
on
the
sixth
day
of
December,
and
just
let
you
know
that
we
are
overhauling
the
zoning,
District
tables
and
some
of
the
graphics
in
the
code
and
we'll
be
back
before
you
and
next
year,
we'll
probably
want
to
have
a
little
bit
of
time
with
you
at
work
session.
To
talk
about
some
of
these
changes.
The
hope
is
to
make
our
dimensional
standards
even
easier
to.
J
He
said
I
think
selling,
if
you,
if
you
drive,
start
driving
around
the
city,
you're
seeing
development
is
being
built
and
a
good
portion
of
that
are
all
consistent
with
the
we're
having
a
lot
of
success
stories
and
and
I
think
you
know
now
we're
at
the
point,
in
my
opinion,
with
some
of
these
Udo
amendments
that
we're
we're
thinking
outside
of
the
box
of
stuff
that
we
don't
have
in
place.
Yet
we
don't
have
any
tiny
home.
J
Ways
to
address
them
if
something
comes
in
or
fine-tuning
areas
that
still
need
to
be
fine-tuned,
but
we
get
a
lot
of
positive
feedback.
I
mean
we're
still
making
amendments
and
evaluating
if
changes
need
to
be
made
based
on
constructive
criticisms,
but
in
some
cases
you
know,
you've
got
to
kind
of
balance.
What
type
of
development
you
want
and
whether
it's
working
and
I
do
think
it's
working
we're
getting
we're
getting
some
quality
development
and
I
think
you're
going
to
start
to
see
that
more
and
more
the.
J
Expand
they've
never
dealt
with
the
UDF
and
they
kind
of
don't
marry
a
yeah
and
and
for
those
types
of
uses
or
expansions
and
alterations
you're.
Depending
upon
what
you're
doing
you
don't
have
to
be
fully
udl
compliance.
There
are
maybe
site
conditions,
so
Landscaping
buffering
that
maybe
that
may
be
needed,
especially
if
you're,
if
you're
altering
a
parking
lot,
let's
say,
but
if
you're
expanding
an
existing
building,
it's
not
considered
development
that
would
have
to
meet
design
standards.
J
We
want
to
encourage
businesses
to
expand
and
and
retain
their
sights
and
and
do
that
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
for
them.
So
you
know
we
still
offer
the
pre-application
conference
meeting.
So
we
try
to
address
any
of
the
concerns
in
the
misnomers
in
terms
of
what
standards
they
have
to
be
held
to,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
message
is
getting
out
what
what
they
need
to
mean.
M
Two
Reynolds
two
amendments
ago,
you
may
recall
we
changed
the
sidewalk
standards
in
pursuit
of
you
know
really
encouraging
folks
who
might
have
non-conforming
structures
and
non-conforming
sites
to
to
additions
and
do
redevelop
without
sort
of
throwing
the
whole
weight.
Above
all
of
these
on-site
and
off-site
improvements
that
we
might
apply
to
a
brand
new
development.
So
we
we
really
are
trying
to
find
that
that
balance
between
okay,
you
know,
here's.
M
It
and
we
want
them
to
to
meet
our
policy
goals
and
here's
a
site
that
was
here,
you
know
30
years
ago.
They
want
to
do
something.
How
do
we,
how
do
we,
you
know,
deal
with
that
and
encourage
that
and
and
allow
that
to
take
place
in
the
best
way
possible?
Without
being
you
know,
onerous
and
without
triggering
full
complain?
That's
always
been
part
of
the.
M
You
know,
part
of
the
standard
part
of
philosophy,
but
it
is
a
challenge.
You
know
it
requires
a
lot
of
negotiation.
It
requires
a
lot
of
house
thinking
and
you
know,
I
mean
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
we
have
talked
about
this
issue
in
this
room
for
hours
about
how
we
do
this
better
than
we're
doing
it
today.
I
I
will
keep
it
short
and
sweet
again.
I
want
to
thank
the
work.
The
staff
did
to
get
us
to
the
point
and
the
City
Council
on
the
PD
in
our
business.
Looking
at
recruitment
retention,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
huge
for
us
city-wise.
I
So
again,
thanks
to
everybody
for
their
input
and
hard
work
on
that
it's
kind
of
a
couple
months
process
to
give
it
to
this
point.
The
other
thing
I
do
want
to
announce
today
is
that
we
have
a
new
assistant
scheme
manager
that
we
can
publicly
name
today.
This
is
Rachel,
Kelly
has
accepted
the
job
and
we
welcome
rightful
back
we're
excited
thrilled
to
have
her
Rachel's
first
day
will
be
November.
I
28Th
Rachel
is
a
former
city
employee
with
10
years
experience,
but
we're
lucky
and
blessed
to
have
her
back
and
great.
So
if
you
want
to
say
anything.