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Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - January 10, 2023
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The
packet
includes
the
summary,
the
findings
or
facts
associated
with
this
item
and
the
COA
and
the
supporting
the
materials.
I'll.
Just
add
that
this.
This
item
is
included
on
your
agenda
tonight,
because
staff
nor
the
property
owner
could
find
any
evidence
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
these
were
original
awnings.
So
the
the
guidelines
stay
states
that,
if
they
are
not
original,
then
that's
considered
General
general
maintenance,
but
if
they
are
original,
then
they
have
to
come.
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And
so
you
are
certainly
welcome
to
supplement
anything
that
I
have
stated
or
any
of
the
materials
that
I've
provided.
But
do
you
even
blood
test
that
the
information
that
you're
provided
is
the
true
to
the
best
of
your
ability?
Okay
and
I
also
forwarded
to
the
commission
members.
The
additional
pictures
that
you
sent
it
on
to
me.
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You
and
I
had
have
spoken
a
couple
of
times,
and
so,
if
you
wanted,
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
had
asked
you
about
was
how
the
awnings
were
fixed,
whether
they
were
affixed
to
The
Brick
or
whether
they
were
how
they
were
fixed
so
to
the
best
of
your
ability.
You
want
to
describe
that
and
then
also
describe
you
know
who
you
have
to
help
assist
you
and
what
the
intentions
are
in
terms
of
any
repairs.
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Staff
will
issue
you
a
COA
certificate
and
also
a
yellow
card.
That'll
be
available
most
likely
tomorrow
that
you
can
come
and
pick
up
at
this
at
the
apartment.
Make
sure
that
it
is
the
yellow
card
is
visible,
while
you
guys
are
performing
work,
that's
good
for
six
months.
If,
for
some
reason
you
go
beyond
the
six
months,
just
email
us
or
contact
us,
and
we
can
request
an
extension.
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Is
it
is
the
door
visible
from
the
street?
No,
it's
on
the
side.
Sorry,
okay,
most
likely.
If
it's
not
visible
from
the
street,
it
could
be
and
I'd
like
to
see
pictures
of
it
and
have
it,
for
you
know
more
formal
determination,
but
if
it's
not
visible
from
the
street,
then
most
likely
it
would
be
a
minor
COA
which
could
be
just
approved
by
staff
staff.
We
would
want
to
see.
Are
you
talking?
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G
G
What's
on
the
house
right
now
is
a
masonite
siding
or
what
they
used
to
call
heartboard
it's
popular
back
in
the
80s.
It's
not
used
anymore,
because
water
got
in
behind
it
because
it
wasn't
a
you
know:
Vapor
Barrier,
so
it
brought
it
from
the
from
the
outside.
It
was
a
huge
legal
lawsuit
and
the
product's
no
longer
to
be
found.
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I
will
and
probably
use
Hardy
versus
LP
smart
side,
but
that's
what
I'm
really
trying
to
do
is
I'm
just
trying
to
get
the
property
back
up
to
speed
since
the
hurricane
and
these
pictures
have
taken
it
took
a
bigger
toll
and
this
is
a
lot
of
rotten
posts
and
railings.
If
you
drive
by
right
now,
it's
basically
taking
them
off
the
course
all
that
has
to
be
put
back
as
well.
G
So
I
brought
a
couple
of
samples
of
LP
smart
side.
If
you
wanted
to
see
the
product,
how
it's
made
you
care
to
see
that,
but
this
one
isn't
actually
the
last
adding
is
the
shingle.
But
it's
made
the
same.
It's
just
a
engineered
wood
product
I
like
installing
it
better.
It's
thicker,
it's
more
plowable!
The
party
doesn't
break
it's
a
lot
easier
to
cut
because
you're
basically
cutting
wood
instead
of
cutting
through
concrete
better
for
the
installer.
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G
So
when
it
comes
to
Windows
I
would
rather
have
it
collided
with
something
so
a
vinyl
or
aluminum,
clad
material
that
prevents
damage
from
the
exterior.
Those
windows
will
also
come
with
either
an
option
for
a
wood
interior
or
a
platted
interior.
So
I,
don't
know
if
you
care
about
that
part
of
it
or
not.
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The
property
currently
has
you
can
see
all
half
of
it
at
having
svals
that
are
the
old
plastic
polygons.
So
on
the
left
side,
they're,
basically
all
broken,
I,
think
there's
one
or
two
that
I
put
back
when
that
tenant.
When
I
got
the
property,
I
moved
to
do
Kennedy
and
I
put
a
couple
back
that
were
able
to
go
back
so
they're,
not
sure
if
it's
deals
so
I'm
kind
of
on
the
further
lead
that
they
all
look
the
same
and
it's
conforming
to
the
area.
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Right
so
if
I,
let's
just
say,
I,
have
one
go
with
one:
that's
readily
available:
it's
double
hung
it's
collided.
Maybe
they
don't
have
the
sdl
and
I
have
to
go
to
another.
You
know
luxury
product
to
get
the
SEL
when
they
can
buy,
calls
yeah
economically
more
and
take.
You
know
10
a
lot
longer
to
get
not
that
I'm
opposed
to
going
that
route.
I'll.
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Cheaper
easier
to
get
you're
going
to
have
almost
every
window
that
comes
with
the
gbg,
it's
probably
the
newer
age
of
Windows,
just
because
it's
easier
to
clean,
you
know
the
old
what
they
call
TDL,
which
is
what
you
probably
find
more
on
fountain
place.
So
those
are
true
divide
where
it's
all
painter
is
separate.
You
can't
really
get
that
anymore
simulated,
the
body
and
you
can
still
get
a
it
just
you
know
they're
typically
more
on
luxury
window
lines
than
you
and
you
know
not
more
economical
or
making
a
scripted.
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Lots
I
would
be
going
back.
Double
hung,
something
that
wasn't
on
the
proposal
which
I
can
come
back
for
if,
if
I
need
to
is
the
shutters
are
in
pretty
bad
shape,
too
I
would
really
replace
those
go
back
with
the
same
exact
design
same
as
that
color,
but
they're
they're,
pretty
bad
shape,
I
thought
about
just
refinishing
them,
but
there's
quite
a
few
of
them
there.
That
are
just
not
example.
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And
well,
and
originally
I
mean
some
of
the
windows
are
probably
could
have
really
could
have
probably
fixed.
But
if
I'm
going
to
be
taking
a
side
off
and
I
know
that
windows
are
going
to
be
in
the
future.
I
really
could
go
back
with
a
new
construction
window,
so
it
could
actually
nail
it
to
the
the
sheeting
and
instead
of
having
to
go
back
with
a
replacement
because
I'm
one,
obviously
to
put
a
house
wrap
on
it
too,
because
it
doesn't
want.
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And
that's
just
recently
happened
after
this
application.
So
I
was
going
to
ask
about
that
too
I
mean
I
would
prefer
the
columns
are
going
to
have
to
go
back
to
Wood,
I
wasn't
doing
vinyl
or
anything,
but
I
would
prefer
to
put
a
powder
coated
aluminum
railing
there
again
from
the
street
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
tell
the
difference
of
it.
It's
going
to
look
identical
to
that.
It's
just
not
going
to
rot
over
time
and
if
I
need
to
come
back
to
do
that,
that's
I'll
just
leave
them
off.
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Addition
of
rails,
where
they
don't
I,
guess
you
couldn't
infer
where
they
don't
exist,
would
be
a
major
COA.
In
my
opinion,
if
you
HBC
can
defer,
but
my
opinion
is,
if
you're
just
maintaining
them
and
replacing
them
with
something
in
kind
that
that
can
be
just
a
general
idea.
Yeah
and
they'll
be
the
same
color
and
everything
we'd
rather
have
you
on
the
safe
side
for
your
temporary,
even
not
having
rails
there.
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On
the
other
side,
it's
it's
old,
it's
behind
the
fence,
so
you
can't
see
it
from
the
street,
but
it
is
taking
water
really
heavy
and
it's
gone
back
through
and
rotted
the
whole
outside
of
the
band
of
the
house
out,
which
is
now
going
into
the
crawl
space
and
we'll
get
rodents
in
there.
So
I've
banded
it
up
for
the
time
being,
but
it
is
I'm.
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B
And
generally
speaking,
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
other
members,
but,
generally
speaking,
we're
we're
reactive
to
an
application
that
comes
in.
So
it's
helpful
for
you
for
an
applicant
to
to
know
what
they're
looking
to
install
for
us
to
be
able
to
provide
feedback
on
rather
than
you
know.
You
tell
us
what
you
think
is
appropriate.
Okay,
where
the
HBC,
the
historic
preservation
commission
is,
requires
a
Judicial
board,
so
they're
tasked
with
hearing
applications
as
presented
you're,
certainly
welcome.
You
know.
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The
millions
or
the
groups
I
mean
I
I
would
well
I
would
either
prefer
to
do
a
nicer
bottom,
clad
window
right
without
the
stls,
because
I
can't
get
them
in
that
product
got
you.
Four
I
would
rather
go
into
a
final
final
window
with
with
the
exterior
sdl,
which
is
going
to
probably
make
it
look
better
from
the
street
so
like.
If
you're
ready
to.
G
So
you
see
or
the
definition
from
the
outside
these
are
from
the
inside,
so
it's
no
different
than
a
gbg.
Okay
and
honestly,
since
they
don't
hold,
they
just
look
worse.
I
think
right
so
I
mean
I
would
prefer
to
go
back
with
probably
the
vinyl
window
with
the
sdl.
It
helps
me
more
on
the
maintenance
side,
long
term
and
it
gets
the
look
of
the
property
more
like
fountain
place
to
have
the
sdl
and
I
mean
I
brought
a
window,
so
we
could
talk
to
those
right
yeah.
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G
And
that
current
the
current
windows
are
wood,
interior
and
wood,
exterior
and
half
of
them
don't
shut
half
of
them
or
have
gaps
in
them.
They're
having
a
rotten
the
rails
aren't
attached
to
the
glass
they're
bad
okay,
I
mean
it's
almost
time.
I'll
have
to
put
back
a
wood
wood
window
right,
I'll,
do
whatever
you
guys
so,
and
then
obviously
this
is
the
inside.
This
is
where
this
would
be
a
problem
with
interior,
but
you
can
also
order
this
window
with
the
with
the
clad.
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When
people
do
replacement
windows,
normally,
let's
say
about
class:
do
they
just
go
back
where
things
they
have
to
have
a
sash
made?
They
have
to
use
it,
but
they
all
have
to
go
back
to
the
Yale
later.
Somebody
had
to
physically
make
a
sash
with
true
divided
light,
or
do
you
just
let
them
do
simulated
By,
the
Light
sashes.
G
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I,
don't
know
you
know,
I
understand
that
we
have
to
follow
the
rules
and
the
presidents
further.
It
seems
like
this
is
an
improvement,
and
this
is
unusual
property,
then
that
it
is
saying
intrusive.
That's
when
they
called
us
that
it's
nice,
not
from
you
know
it's
not
a
historic
property.
Basically.
B
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
again.
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
commission
members
because
ourselves
freely,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
positive
benefits
of
renovating
properties
in
the
historic
district
overall
and
different
character,
with
the
district
and
the
and
the
sort
of
nature,
but
kudos
to
property
owners
for
doing
so
as
well.
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B
As
was
mentioned
with
the
other
Apple
I'll
issue,
you
a
COA
which
one
sheet
that's
the
documentation
that
it's
been
approved
and
then
also
a
yellow
card.
It's
a
placard
that
just
gets
placed
in
a
window
or
somewhere,
that's
very
visible,
while
work
is
being
done
or
it
indicates
in
the
public
or
anyone
that
that
what
you're
doing
has
been
approved.
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B
Staff
will
it's
not
listed
here,
but
we're
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
the
Consultants
who
prepared
the
guidelines
to
to
have
some
training
sessions
now
that
we're
kind
of
in
the
midst
of
reviewing
applications
just
so
so
start.
Thinking
about
any
questions
that
you
might
have,
it's
always
helpful
to
get
those
questions
in
advance
that
we
could
send
them.
B
So
we'll
we'll
be
letting
you
know
when
that
will
occur.
The
postcards
went
out
to
all
of
the
property
owners
and
all
of
the
addresses
within
the
historic
districts
and
the
landmark
site,
so
we're
trying
to
work
out
I
think
we're
also
included
some
of
that
introduction
in
the
newsletter.
That's
going
to
be
it's
not
perfectly.