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Historic Preservation Commission - September 12, 2023
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I'm
trying
to
remember
the
name
of
the
family
members
that
I
don't
think
they've
actually
lived
in
it
like
like
it
was.
There
was
a
huge
thunderstorm
that
night,
so
I
still
haven't
found
out
what
the
cause.
It
wouldn't
be
surprising
to
me.
If
it
wasn't
a
lightning,
it
was
lightning
like
crazy.
That
way.
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I
think
that
I
think
that
the
grant
is
is
intended
to
have
to
reach
a
greater
Community,
not
just
within
the
historic
district
and
with
the
walking
tours
and
the
idea
of
revisiting
that
I
was
just
thinking
if
the
HPC
didn't
have
a
lot
of
applications
going
on.
If
you
wanted
to
take
on
at
that
project,
but
that's
it's
obviously
not
not
a
requirement
to
do
that,
but
I
just
thought
there
might
be
some
interest
and
it
might
be
and
I
think
I've
mentioned
too.
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The
signs
in
Glencoe
the
signage-
that's
in
you
know
the
little
you've
walked
around.
You
see
the
little
signs
with
pictures
of
the
houses
they're
looking
like
they're,
you
know,
I
actually
took
a
cloth
and
wiped
the
mold
off
of
them.
One
day
when
I
was
out
walking
because
I
walked
out
all
the
time,
but
they're
starting
to
look
a
little
like
they're,
going
to
become
worn
like
they're
made
out
of
like
a
melamine
or
plastic
or
something
and
I
don't
know
who
was
Parks
and
Rec.
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So
we
can,
you
know
we
can
circulate
an
email
to
a
follow-up
email
just
to
see
if
there
are
any
other
ideas
and
kind
of
brainstorm
with
the
list
of
the
things
that
we
have
identified.
Yeah,
yeah
yeah
and
maybe
you
and
I-
can
sit
down
and
meet
just
sort
through
all
these
things,
yeah
so
I
know
Conrad
had
some
questions
for
the
state
on
the
financial
part
of
it
and
we've
got
different
speakers.
What
could
funding
pay
for?
It
could
pay
for
different
speakers.
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So
our
house
was
actually
built
commercially
and
was
the
only
residence
this
architect
ever
did
so
essentially
On
My,
Front
Street,
so
I
was
just
curious.
So
between
front
right
said:
Willowbrook
all
right,
I
was
adjacent
to
the
Willowbrook
Park
okay.
So
it's
a
Cape
Cod
of
the
Circle
Drive,
with
what,
with
lots
of
Windows,
there's
97
windows.
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Happens
with
older
homes
and-
and
you
know,
I've
been
there
10
years
and
it's
Kelly
who's
kind
of
my
own
I,
don't
want
my
leader,
my
friend
my
co-worker.
She
actually,
she
actually
came
to
my
home
in
2020
to
do
a
presentation
because
I
was
just
trying
to
find
out
about
Windows.
So
four
years
ago
she
comes
to
my
house
and
we
had
a
six
hour.
Sit-Down
talk
that
led
to
a
job
and
then
let
the
windows,
but
it's
just,
and
they
don't
do
that.
Often
they
don't
hire
people
their
customers
every
day.
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There
are
full-size
windows
with
you
know,
alcoves
around
them
and
so
like
there's
4
500
square
feet
in
the
basement
alone.
That's
finished,
so
the
house
doesn't
look
like
that,
but
I
I
release
torn
and
so
that's
the
thing
with
the
pure
choice
and
I
work
with
like
the
wood
right
shop
out
of
Wilson
I.
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Don't
know
if
you
know
those
guys
if
you
ever
watched
old
house,
This
Old
House
on
PBS
he's
like
a
sponsor,
but
he
turns
those
chancford
lamp
posts
out
of
Cedar
and
the
more
Colonial
and
traditional
things
he's
he's
the
same
way.
He
took
a
house
from
Bath
North
Carolina
that
was
built
in
the
1700s
and
restored
it.
So
I
called
him
to
order
lamp
posts
and
we
got
to
talking
I
said
I
just
started.
Working
and
I'm,
like
you
know,
I.
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G
With
you
know
so,
I
kept
torn
back
and
forth
I
used
to
think
about
it.
When
I
did
my
house
in
the
80s
I,
had
a
company
make
old
growth
wood
windows
to
replicate
these
18th
century
Windows,
they
are
cold,
they
are
hot,
they
have
to
be
reglazed
if
I
had
it
to
over
again,
I
would
come
to
Anderson
because
they
do
make
the
best
window
and
they're
the
oldest
window
company
around.
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Should
have
done
so
he
got
me,
you
know
even
when
I
came
to
work
after
I
met
with
her
I
still
wasn't
sure,
but
the
benefits
the
windows
having
a
new
window
outweighs
the
the
purism.
But
what
I
tell
when
we
tell
every
customer?
If
you
have
these
original
wood
windows
and
you're
thinking
about
replacing
them,
you
really
have
an
option,
go
with
the
highest
best
or
keep
what
you
got.
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So
what
what
you
guys
say
is
true,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
this
as
an
option
and
since
we're
direct
sold
by
Anderson
and
the
only
way
to
find
out
about
this
is
what
you're
doing
now.
We
just
get
to
talk
to
mass
instead
of
coming
to
your
homes
individually.
But
what
we
have
is
something
you've
probably
never
heard
of
it's
off
your
radar
completely.
So
that's
why
we
came
today
to
kind
of
put
it
out
there.
So
you're
aware
of
this
is
an
option.
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Of
Anderson
number
one
window
manufacturer
out,
what's
unique
about
us,
is
we
work
for
a
division
underneath
the
Anderson
umbrella
and
it's
a
Renewal
by
Anderson
Division?
So
all
we
do
is
replacement.
We
don't
do
new
construction.
In
fact,
we
don't
even
sell
our
window
to
anybody
that
installs
windows
we
have
complete
control
over
it.
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E
What
was
good,
50,
60,
70
80
100
years
ago,
is
no
longer
good
right,
so
we're
we're,
we've
updated
it,
but
keeping
the
look
and
feel
in
line,
so
we
actually
have
come
up
with
a
material.
That
is
a
is
a
wood
based
composite
okay,
so
it
is
going
to
have
the
the
structure
of
wood,
but
with
polymers
in
there
to
go
ahead
and
give
it
the
longevity
that
is
called
fibrex
it's
exclusive
to
Anderson.
We
have
actually
over
30
patents
on
that
particular
particular
material.
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All
of
our
windows
are
going
to
be
made
out
of
that
on
the
exterior.
That
material
will
never
rot.
It's
not
going
to
peel
crack
pit
corrode
it's
not
going
to
expand
and
contract
like
water
vinyl.
You
will
never
have
to
paint
it
unless
you
want
to.
But
if
you
want
to,
it
is
a
paintable
material,
unlike
vinyl
or
a
vinyl
plaid
window.
Also,
what's
unique
about
that
is
microbacterial
coating
on
it.
Mold
and
mildew
won't
grow
on
it.
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That
being
said,
if
they
have
a
custom
color,
that's
already
approved,
then
they
can
go
ahead
and
paint
these
windows
and
then
that
that
paint
stays
on
there.
They're
paint
looking
for
color,
not
painting
to
make
sure
every
nook
and
cranny
is
filled
because
you're
afraid
that
that
caulk
is
going
to
expand
and
contract
in
the
future
and
they're
going
to
start
to
rot.
So
with
that,
we've
got
the
same
mortise
and
Tenon
joints
at
the
corners
to
look
exactly
like
a
wood
window.
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In
fact,
these
corner
cut-
that's
here
on
our
Windows,
is
the
exact
width
and
the
exact
height
of
your
sash
on
a
wood
double
hung
window.
So
when
we
actually
hold
this
up,
when
we
go
to
people's
homes,
we
actually
hold
this
up
right
in
front
of
the
corner
of
their
existing
window,
and
we
show
them
that's
the
exact
same
width
and
height
of
their
current
window.
E
Why
is
this
important
to
you
for
the
fact
that,
when
somebody
is
looking
from
the
outside
of
that
home,
that
window
is
going
to
look
just
like
what
they
currently
have
got
and
as
far
as
the
profile
of
that
window?
The
other
thing
that
we
do
that
is
very
unique,
is
that
we
have
something.
That's
called
the
full
divided
light
and
you
could
go
ahead
and
show
that
bread.
So
basically,
the
full
divided
light
is
going
to
be
the
grill
aspect
of
it
and.
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G
Going
to
get
that
from
anyone,
and
so
that's
where
and
look
when
it
comes
to
like
vinyl
windows
and
the
mass-produced
windows
again
I
tell
people
keep
what
you
got
just
paint
them
pay
for
the
maintenance.
You
know
deal
with
cold
Winters
and
hot
summers.
You
know
you're
better
off
of
what
you
got
than
to
go
to
something
that
has
double
pane
glass
that
doesn't
last
more
than
seven
years
so.
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G
Talk
about
that
a
little
bit
too
about
our
seals,
but
so
what
we
have
is
called
full
divided
light.
So
our
spacer
system
is
stainless
steel,
which
I'll
go
into
that
a
little
more
but
there's
a
spacer
between
the
glass
as
well
as
an
interior,
Grill
and
an
exterior
Grill.
So
these
are
simulated
tool
divided
light.
But
when
you
come
here
and
look
you
see
spacers
between
each
pane,
so
everything
about
them
appears
to
be
the
individual
paints.
Now
the
big
thing
for.
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G
Last
okay,
so
this
is
a
vinyl
replacement
window.
This
is
every
window
from
Window
World
to
Champion,
to
Pella,
to
Marvin.
Every
window
company
puts
their
blast
spacers
and
builds
it
like
this.
What
you
have
in
there
is
four
pieces
of
aluminum
that
are
in
aluminum
between
there
is
the
spacer
and
they're
glued
in
the
corners.
Now
aluminum
reacts
to
Hot
and
Cold.
So
when
the
Sun
hits
that
over
time
the
aluminum
will
expand
and
contract,
it
will
push
those
two
pieces
of
glass
apart
gas
or
the
origami
thing.
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G
At
that
window
and
still
keep
it
functional,
what
Anderson
has
is
we
use
a
circle
with
grade
stainless
steel
and
the
reason
the
surgical
grade,
because
you
think
of
stainless
steel
in
your
body
during
surgery?
It's
constantly
up
against
moisture,
so
this
can
have
moisture
against
it
forever
and
it's
not
going
to
rust
or
corrode.
Then
they
take
a
beautiful
layer
and
then
close
around
that
stainless
steel,
the
glass
and
an
argon
filled
chamber,
which
is
a
room
about
this
big
so
that
we
can
say
100
argon
between
that
glass.
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You
have
a
stainless
steel
spacer
that
can
be
bent
and
welded
shut
with
no
punctures,
the
other
guys
built
that
they
drill
a
hole
in
it.
They
put
a
tube.
They
turn
on
the
Argon
and
they're
introducing
argon,
where
there's
already
air,
so
they're
mixing
gases
and
because
argon's
so
expensive,
they're
just
putting
in
the
dollar
amount
of
argon
they've
allowed
per
window.
G
G
Pennies
they're
great
when
you
put
them
in,
but
you
see
a
quick
depreciation
and
the
the
vinyl
windows
have
a
seven
to
ten
year
lifespan.
So
it's
not
even
good
for
our
homes
to
rip
the
window,
casings
out
every
seven
to
take
you'll
destroy
that
frame.
So
what
you
have
up
here
is
a
project
we
did
and.
G
G
Our
new
windows
across
the
top
and
the
two
to
the
far
right
are
original
1920.,
so
I
just
want
you
to
look
at
what
the
the
dark
line
around.
That
is
the
trim,
that's
missing
the
stops
that
hold
the
windows
in
we've
pulled
the
original
stops
out,
and
then
we
put
the
new
window
in
and
then
what
they
have
to
come
back
and
put
the
stops
back
in
so.
G
Around
there,
but
it's
the
perfect
time
to
look
at
our
sash
widths
of
the
original
and
the
old.
So
this
is
original.
That's
original
and
all
four
of
those
across
there
are
new.
They
have
full
divided
light.
They
have
the
same
Grille
pattern,
they're
white.
So
let
me
tell
you:
those
windows
are
Anderson
window
white
and
never
have
to
be
painted.
But
since
it's
a
wood
composite,
you
can
paint
and
they're
made
out
of
that
material.
The
Fabrics
right,
so
our
Windows
full
Fabrics
inside
now,
except
an
option
for
the
inside,
could
be
you.
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G
F
G
There's
what
three
thousand
options
per
window
build
when
we
come
out
for
color
combinations,
glass
systems,
Hardware
Grill
patterns,
there's
over
3000
options?
We
are
able
to
do
the
other
thing,
the
the
manufacturing
process.
So
why
that
looks
the
way
it
does.
Is
we
build
these
windows
custom
they're?
Not
we
don't
have
any
windows
in
stock.
They
are
built
when
we
come
out
and
design
your
project.
We
send
someone
from
our
construction
team
about
a
week
later,
who
does
a
final
measure
to
a
sixteenth
of
an
inch
and
I?
G
Don't
know
if
you've
ever
looked
at
a
tape.
Measure
sixteenth
of
an
inch
is
one
of
the
spaces.
We
build
our
window
to
a
sixteenth
of
an
inch
of
the
opening,
and
then
we
custom
build
the
window
to
the
specs
of
each
opening.
So
all
four
of
those
windows
have
a
serial
number
and
they
were
built
for
just
that
opening
they're,
probably
within
a
half
a
quarter
and
eighth
of
an
inch
different
sizes,
but
we
built
the
window
to
the
home.
E
E
That
come
from
that
doesn't
come
from
a
single
pane
window,
which
is
the
least
energy
efficient
window.
That's
on
the
market.
It
comes
from
a
dual
pane
window.
That's
when
the
gas
between
the
two
panes
of
glass
has
dissipated,
Out,
The
Seal
has
failed,
and
water
moisture
has
gotten
in
there.
So
you
have
two
aspects:
that's
going
on.
First.
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F
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E
F
E
G
Historical
fun
fact
so,
I'm
from
this
area
and
North
Carolina
the
South
quality
installation,
Windows
weren't
a
thing
when
these
homes
were
built,
our
Windows
here
are
bigger
than
they
are
up
north
because
they're
made
smaller
there
to
keep
heat
in
the
house.
So
when
you
go
to
New
York
a
home
like
this
is
going
to
have
shorter
windows
so
around
here.
How
long
or
how
old
do
you
think
technology
of
double
pane
windows
has
been
I
mean
I,
didn't
see
it
until
the
80s
or
90s?
What
would
y'all
think
is.
G
In
1939,
so
you
go
to
Vermont
or
Maine
or
New
Hampshire
or
Rhode
Island,
and
you
literally
have
double
pane
windows
from
the
50s
60s
70s.
So
the
first
one
I've
seen
in
Burlington
was
Mr
Corey's
house
at
the
country
club
that
went
for
sale
last
year.
I
went
over
there
and
look
at
it
because
it's
an
awesome
house,
but
the
windows.
G
Because
they're
double
paying,
you
know
and
I'm
like
well,
the
house
is
built
in
1962..
She
said:
that's
why
they
have
to
be
a
replacement.
I
said:
no,
we
were
doing
Windows
back
then
they
were
I
mean
he
went
out
of
your
way
to
get
an
Anderson
window,
but
everything
about
this
house
from
the
stereo
system
built
in
everything's
custom
and
bougie
so
I'm
in
the
basement.
Looking
all
the
plans
for
the
house
and
every
invoice,
Marshall
Corey
kept
every
invoice
building.
That
house
had
a
book
of
them
and.
G
G
G
Invented
those
storm
windows
for
Monticello.
His
house
was
on
the
top
of
a
hill
and
he
put
those
in
to
protect
his
glazing
from
weather
elements.
That's
literally
what
the
storm
windows
do.
So,
when
I
moved
in
my
house,
they
had
the
aluminum
storm
windows
in
me,
they're
just
unsightly
and
ugly,
so
I
took
them
down
and
within
a
year
all
my
glazing
had
cracked
and
falling
out
because
those
windows
had
protect.
G
Those
storm
windows
did
protect
the
window
from
elements,
so
they
did
serve
a
purpose
and
then
trying
to
find
someone
who
actually
is
a
skilled,
arsenic,
glazing
or
even
getting
enough
glaze.
So
in
2020
we
painted
our
house,
they
went
through
every
glaze
in
Burlington
and
went
to
Greensboro
to
pick
up
more
and
the
glaze
quality
is
so
shoddy
that
it's
all
mildewed
and
turned
black
around
on
my
windows.
It's
only
been
three
years.
C
G
G
So
when
we
put
our
insert
inside
of
that
original
trim,
you
get
a
finished
product
that
looks
original
again,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
your
1980s
House
on
Edgewood,
we
have
the
ability
to
actually
rip
all
that
out
and
start
over
again,
which
so
your
brick
mold
can
be
fiberx2
so
that
you
don't
have
any
maintenance
around
that
window
and
nowhere
to
rot.
So.
G
In
your
window,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
address
your
wood,
brick
mold,
that's
probably
been
eat
up
with
Carpenter
beads
rotting
falling
apart.
We
can
coil
wrap
that
and
yeah
there's
there's
different
division.
Our
window
levels
there's
different
houses
that
require
different
levels.
We
go
in
these
neighborhoods
you're,
the
top
and
these
windows,
and
that's
the
thing
I
tell
people
it's
not
a
cheap
window
on
average
you're,
looking
at
four
thousand
dollars
a
window,
but
there's
a
couple
things
that
happen
with
our
glass
system.
G
I
just
want
to
go
over
that
before
we
finish-
and
this
was
a
big
deal
to
me-
and
a
big
selling
point
higher
low
E
load
of
acidity
our
tent
our
window
treatments.
So
in
the
1960s
we
came
with
the
idea
of
painting
a
mirror
coat
of
silver
oxide
on
the
outside
thing.
Sunlight
hit.
Those
windows
reflected
reflected
some
away
from
the
window.
It
kept
some
of
the
heat
out
of
your
house,
so.
G
G
Not
in
there,
so
what
Anderson's
came
up
with
in
our
room
own
way
of
doing
it
is
we
put
that
on
the
inside
of
the
outside
Pane
and
we
do
a
splatter
coat
of
three
layers
of
micro
splatter.
So
if
you're
looking
through
a
microscope,
looks
like
little
pin
points,
it
creates
a
prism
effect.
Sunlight
hits
this
glass,
it
refracts
in
a
million
different
directions
and
blocks
out
95
of
UV
and
heat
radiation.
G
What
happens,
and
so
you
all
are
familiar
with
having
artwork
framed
and
having
conservation
glass
as
an
option.
It's
the
same
system
that
low
E
has
been
spraying
on
that
glass
to
block
UV
from
harming
your
art.
So
what
you're
putting
in
with
Anderson
is
you
don't
have
any
of
the
UV
coming
through
fading
your
floors,
drying
your
Fabrics
or
the
heat
coming
through?
So
when
you
have
a
window
here
and
a
piece
of
furniture
sunlight's
coming
through,
you
touch
the
furniture,
it's
hot
to
touch
with
our
window.
It's
not
and
that's
the.
G
Biggest
thing
for
me
is
like
it's
preserving
my
antiques:
it's
preserving
the
floor
and
it's
keeping
the
climate
system.
It
doesn't
run
as
much
now,
but
it's
keeping
the
entire
inside
of
the
home
conditioned
so
there's
a
lot
of
features
for
these
old
homes,
where
they
need
to
have
this
to
make
the
home
last
more
Generations
to
reduce
the
mold
and
mildew
that
forms
in
homes
that
aren't
properly
air
conditioned.
I
won't
get
into
that
because
he's
been
talking
about
a
lot
lately,
but
you
know
not
having
air
condition.
My
home
didn't
have
air.
G
Upstairs
when
we
bought
it
had
window
units
and
we
didn't
go
upstairs
and
turn
them
on
it-
had
the
1954
air
conditioning
that
was
installed
downstairs
and
the
house
smelled
musty,
but
upstairs
where
there
was
no
continuous
air.
My
furniture
got
films
of
mold
on
it
during
every
summer
and
that
couldn't
be
good
for
the
plaster
that
was
cracking
and
all
the
interior
parts
of
my
house.
Now
we've
had
new
heat
pumps
put
in
upstairs
now.
B
G
Just
did
Windows
on
just
my
upstairs
for
now
I've
done
some
basement
I've
got
the
whole
first
floor
to
do,
but
the
upstairs
tremendously
made
a
difference.
I
mean
like
just
having
the
Heat
and
wow.
The
cool
air
is
constant
through
all
the
space
there's
no
Corner
over
here
by
the
window.
That's
still
hot,
because
the
temperature's
coming
through
so
I
mean
it's.
It's
there's
a
reason
to
do
it
and
I
agree
with
y'all
at
least
50
percent,
that,
if
you're
not
going
to
do
the
best
quality,
don't
do
anything
at
all
and
I.
G
Tell
every
customer
I
meet
that
and
I've
met
a
lot
around
the
Hill
Crest
area
and
I'll
tell
them
like
look.
This
is
expensive,
it's
not
for
everyone,
but
do
this
or
fix
what
you
got
and
those
are
really
the
two
options.
I
came
up
with
because
Marvin
the
windows
there
on
Davis,
Street
and
I
want
you
to
know
about
this.
There's
clad
Windows,
which
takes
soft
Pine,
puts
a
little
cover
on
it.
To
make
it
look
solid
and
good
Marvin
does
a
fiberglass,
clad,
fiberglass
and
sunlight
don't
get
along.
G
This
is
aluminum
aluminum
and
sunlight
heat
don't
get
along
and
then
there's
a
vinyl
clad,
which
they
literally
take
plastic
and
just
cover
the
outside
of
these
windows
have
caused
so
much
damage
to
framework
in
people's
homes.
You
can
Google
Pella
class
action,
lawsuit
and
start
looking
at
120
million
that
pay
out.
It
wasn't
for
the
window.
G
Failure
as
much
as
the
damage
to
the
structure
of
the
home,
so
Cloud
windows
are
something
that
I
don't
want
to
see
in
an
old
home
because
it
will
deteriorate
the
home
over
time,
especially
when
people
are
paying
attention.
So,
if
you
don't
open
that
window,
you
don't
realize
the
rock
goes
straight
into
the
framework
of
your
home.
We
can't
even
replace
one
of
those
windows
without
doing
a
full
frame,
tear
out
to
look
for
the
rock
before
we
got
a
new
window
in
because
cloud
is
such
a
problem.
G
E
I
think
for
us
two
things
we
would
like
to
you
know
obviously
get
that
one
approved
we've
already
done.
None
it's
homes
in
the
historic
area,
but
also
we
would
love
to
get
this
material
approved
that
going
forward.
You
know
and
just
be
just
be
part
of
the
consideration
and
I
think
that's
what
the
goal
is.
G
Well,
we
usually
come
to
your
home
and
it's
90
minutes
to
two
hours,
so
you're,
just
getting
the
the
Highlight
there's
still
so
much
more
and
my
favorite
benefit
is.
They
are
so
much
noise
dampening
than
on
our
streets
with
the
kids,
with
the
big
trucks
and
the
squealing
tires,
and
the
lawn
mowers
and
the
leaf
blowers
and
all
the
noise
and
compilation
of
noise
iron
Windows
cut
it
all
out,
and
it's
just
like
living
in
a
vacuum
like
it's
so
quiet.
G
D
We
do
have
the
ability
to
have
some
flexibility,
there's
discussion
in
the
standards
regarding
replacement
of
Windows
for
different
kind,
with
different
kinds
of
composites.
However,
there's
you
know
permitted
and
recommended
types
of
materials.
So
the
idea
to
bring
you
folks
in
and
others
you
know
who
have
you
know
similar
similar
replacement
type
of
materials
Alternatives
so
that
the
commission
could
become
familiar
with
what
the
products
are
familiar
with.
Whether
or
not
you
know,
this
is
something
that
they
feel
is
a
practice
alternative.
D
F
G
Put
together
so
they
technically
meet
the
definition
of
composite
they're,
Blended
Plastics,
so
don't
be
fooled
by
like.
Oh,
this
is
a
composite
window.
Is
it
wood-based
composite
because
Anderson's,
the
only
people
that
make
it
the
Extrusion
machines
that
make
this
product
only
cost
70
to
90
million
a
piece,
and
we
have
over
70
of
those
machines
and
so
we're
a
patent
on
fibrex
is
going
to
wane
and
pass
out.
Other
companies
can't
afford
to
start
making
this
because
they
would
have
to
put
billions
into
it
up
front
and
charge
double
what
we
charge.
G
So
we've
got
30
years
ahead
of
them.
So
there's
no
other
composite.
There's
nothing
like
this,
but
one
quick,
nerdy
fact
for
historians,
Hans
Anderson's,
the
first
person
who
built
a
frame
with
sashes
as
one
unit
before
1903
your
sashes
were
made
built
on
site.
Glassmaker
may
have
made
them
all.
The
framing
was
done.
Custom
on
every
home,
so
1903
is
when
he
says
if
I
build
it
all
as
one
unit
you'll
have
a
tighter
seal,
keeping
that
cold
air
out.
G
That's
where
Anderson
has
birthed
and
that's
why
they
all
went
to
the
Northeast
Corridor
of
the
country,
because
it
was
the
coldest
up
there.
So
our
windows
were
always
meant
to
be
energy
efficient,
even
when
they
didn't
have
the
Glass
Technology,
because
the
uniform
frame
was
his
invention.
So
you
fast
forward
that
from
1903
we.
G
G
And
we
make
the
best
window
frame
in
the
world
they're
working,
it's
probably
10,
15
years,
because
Anderson's
slow
to
develop.
There's
there's
going
to
be
windows
that
are
solar
panels
that
Grid
in
your
home
by
Anderson
in
the
future,
because
they're
entertained.
What
other
questions
does
do
the
commission
members
might
have
actual
presentation?
Thank
you
call
us
call
me
because
I'm
in
Burlington,
I'd.
D
D
A
A
D
D
D
I
felt
that
the
that
their
alternative
was
in
line
with
the
character
of
the
district
and
the
street,
what
the
intent
of
what
she
was
trying
to
do,
she's,
ultimately
going
to
be
hopefully
applying
for
a
grant,
through
preservation,
Burlington
to
enhance
her
house
to
bring
it
into
character
of
the
area.
There
was
a
porch
that
was
built
after
after
a
certain
point.
That's
not
that
she
wants
to
remove
and.
D
Boy
in
the
in
the
near
future,
but
I
think
with
with
with
this
property
owner
I,
think
her
struggle
was
how
do
I.
How
do
I
continue
to
enhance
my
property,
make
it
more
energy
efficient,
bring
it
into
character
where
I
you
know,
I
want
to
make
improvements.
She
loves
living
in
the
historic
district.
She
finds
it
to
be
extremely
safe,
has
improved
she's
lived
in
other
places
in
Burlington
and
she
has
the
future
Quality
of
Life
by
moving
to
the
distiller
District.
So
to
me
she
was
a
good
time
to.
D
D
You
know
Brian
about
this
particular
part
of
she
was
under
a
time
constraint
regarding
that
and
we
felt
we
made,
we
've
discussed
it
and
when
we
felt
that
having
this
presentation
would
be
a
good
opportunity
and
introduction
to
the
commission
to
see.
If
you
know
your
kind
of
in
the
mindset
as
I
was
I,
don't
want
to
be
on
the
different
page
than
you
guys,
obviously,
but
in
the
mindset
of
you
know,
staff
being
able
to
evaluate
these
these
these
types
of
applications
and.
A
F
A
The
old
standards
this
would
have
been
a
definite
major
COA.
We
would
have
had
to
bring
a
property
owner
in
here
and
talk
through
you
know.
The
materials
and
and
strict
adherence
to
the
standards
would
have
required
her
to
replace
those
with
wooden
windows
and
that
when
we
taught
it
did
not
seem
to
make
good
sense
in
this
case,
but
then
we
were
in
so
then
we
decided.
Okay,
we'll
call
this
a
minor
COA,
but
then
talk
to
the
commission
because.
F
D
Yeah
and
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
remember
the
Robertson
Robinson
Robinson's
case.
That
was
the
picture
that
he
showed
they
did
come
in
for
a
major
COA,
and
you
know
they
had
arguments
about
arguments.
They
had
a
case
that
they
presented
in
terms
of
using
the
alternative
material
and,
and
at
that
time
you
know,
the
HBC
felt
that
that
was
a
viable
option.
For
for
that,
so
you
know,
each
case
obviously
is
is
on
its
own
Merit.
D
The
standards
on
page
D20
talk
about
replacement
of
Windows,
and
it
says
replacement
windows
should
be
same
materials
as
the
original
materials
aluminum
cloud,
wood,
vinyl,
cut,
wood,
cellular
PVC,
composite
fiberglass
or
steel.
If
original
to
the
structure
may
be
approved,
provided
the
windows
are
solid
in
composition
and
closely
matched
the
original
windows
in
Dimensions
profile
and
general
overall
appearance
to
me,
that
seems
to
be
the
case,
but
I
wanted.
D
C
D
How
do
you,
it's
I,
think
it's
really
I
mean
if,
if
we
know
the
highest
end,
okay,
you
know
I'm
really
looking
at
the
the
composition
and
looking
at
the
specs
of
the
windows,
and
even
if
Apple
as
varying
materials,
where
they're
subjective
they
will
come.
I
won't
question
it.
I'll
have
to
come
to
the
HBC.
I
mean
that's
clear
in
terms
of
the
direction
where
staff
is
unclear
or
needs
additional
guidance,
then
you
don't
have
an
issue
having
to
go
in
front
of
the
HBC
for
a
major
COA.
D
B
D
F
D
C
Like
you
said,
I'm
a
purist
like
the
house,
if
you
remember
the
house
on
the
corner
of
West
front
and
Fisher,
remember
the
beautiful
it
was
a
project
how
it
was
like
I
forget
the
non-profit
that
bought
it.
But
those
windows
were
taken
to
Greensboro
and
dipped
and
you
know
beautifully
restored
I
mean.
Imagine
you
know
if
it.
If
that
happened,
so
I
mean
is
you're
still
I
mean
I'm
still
advocating
for
restoration,
yeah
always
impossible.
You
know,
like
I,
mean
imagine
with
you
know
these
going
into
my
Glencoe
house
or
something.
A
No,
we
likely
wouldn't
approve
somebody
taking
out
their
their
wooden
original
wooden
windows
and
putting
these
in,
but
in
a
case
like
the
one
that
we
were
looking
after
you're,
not
looking
in
our
original
windows,
and
these
are
clearly
improvements
over
what
was
in
there.
It
seemed
it
felt
like
staff
approval,
yeah
I,
always
agree.
D
D
G
Yeah,
my
bad
sorry,
it's
the
one
that
it's
one
of
them,
oh
okay,
seems
like
these
windows
would
better
protect
the
hunt,
in
other
words
Not
Just,
Energy
Efficiency,
but
the
sunlight,
the
moisture
all
that
stuff
coming,
and
it
seems
like
that
more
modern
technology
would
better
protect
the
house.
So
there
are
those
families.
A
D
D
C
Most
of
the
windows
in
Glencoe
are
not
original.
Most
of
those
I
would
imagine-
or
you
know
my
house
but
I'm
in
who
had
just
holes.
You
know
right
because
the
windows
and
doors
were
all
gone.
It
was
like
that
for
a
couple
decades
right
so
and
I
think
about
my
house.
You
know
the
wood,
they
had
wood
recreated
on
the
old
part
of
the
house
and
a
new
part
of
houses,
pain
or
it
seems
to
be
fine
they're
like
20.
D
C
C
And
that's
where
we
we
went
to
get
a
bunch
of
siding
when
we
were
working
on
either
the
painting
from
their
exterior
painting,
but
that
you
know
encouraging
people
to
take
off
their
aluminum
siding.
Yes,
that's
been
on
there
for
you
know
decades,
not
that
scary
just
get
that
yeah
yeah
and
we're
talking
about
formal
mayor
no
I'm
talking
about
mine,
yeah,.
D
And
they're
there
was,
of
course,
I
think
it's
it's
sooner
in
Sanford
every
once
in
a
while.
They
get
closer
to
us.
So
just
take
advantage
of
the
opportunities
yeah
yeah
yeah.
There
is
also
the
the
historic
preservation
conference
coming
up,
that
isn't
it's
endurance.
Does
that
count
as
part
of
it?
It's
in
October
I,
think.
Is
it
it's
in
October
yeah?
Is
there
a
certain
amount
of
in
person.