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From YouTube: Let's Talk: One Year Later
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Join the City of Burlington in learning more about the Local Historic Overlay District Design Standards and how they have been utilized over the last year!
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Access the Local Historic Overlay District Design Standards: https://www.burlingtonnc.gov/543/Local-Historic-Overlay-District-Design-S
A
Okay,
so
we're
recording
now
so
Jamie
Lawson,
our
planning
director
she'll,
be
running
the
show
here.
Just
doing
the
presentation.
We
also
have
Philip
Walker
with
the
Walker
collaborative
he's.
A
The
the
main
reason
him
and
Keith
Covington
were
the
folks
that
worked
on
Burlington's,
historic
district
design
standards,
and
we
do
have
a
do.
You
see
our
chair,
Mr
Brian
Pennington
from
the
historic
preservation
committee
commission,
as
well
as
one
of
our
members,
Mr
Vernon
Hess
who's
also
sits
on
our
historic
preservation.
Commission
and
I
do
see.
Christy
Brantley
with
the
the
state
historic
preservation
office.
B
A
How
you
doing
Chrissy
thanks
for
joining
and
Mr
Petty
I,
see
you
thanks
for
hopping
on
see
Marcy
sigmone
thanks
for
hopping
on
and
Aaron
Shepard
is
joining
us
too.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
us
and
with
that
Jamie
I
think
you
are
I'll
just
let
folks
in
as
they
come
along
and
I'll.
Let
you
can
share
the
screen
now
and
feel
free
to
take
it
away.
C
Thanks:
okay,
so
again,
Jamie
Lawson
planning
director
for
the
City
of
Burlington,
really
pleased
to
have
this
additional
online
learning.
C
C
Okay,
just
kind
of
recapping
a
little
bit
for
those
who
have
not
been
part
of
some
of
our
other
seminars.
C
Sorry
about
that,
so
just
just
just
to
recap.
So
this
is
the
fourth
and
final
theory
in
our
series
of
let's
talk
seminars.
We
had
two
previous
online
sessions,
one
in
March
and
one
in
May,
the
March
session.
We
talked
about
how
to
apply
during
if
you've
got
projects
in
the
historic
district
and
then
in
may
we
talked
about
the
standards
generally
and
how
they
apply
here,
we're
talking
about
the
one
year
review
and
then
also
in
may.
C
We
had
a
in-person
training
in
downtown
Burlington
learning
about
the
history
of
downtown
and
celebrating
in
conjunction
with
National
Historic
preservation
month.
C
Let's
see
on
to
the
next
slide,
okay,
so
just
again
in
sort
of
summary
and
overview,
we
have
two
local
historic
districts.
One
was
established
in
1987.
that
was
the
West
Davis
Street
historic
district
I'm,
going
to
try
to
change
my
pointer
to
a
laser
pointer.
There
we
go
so
this
is
the
Wes
Davis
historic
district
on
this
screen
that
was
again
established
in
1987,
and
then
we
have
the
Glencoe
Mill
historic
district
that
was
established
in
1999.
C
C
Okay,
this
thought
just
kind
of
summarizes
the
three
concepts
to
grasp
in
the
design
standards
themselves.
We
have
our
Matrix
and
I'll
show
that
in
more
detail
in
a
couple
slides,
but
this
The
Matrix
kind
of
defines
and
tells
us
what
type
of
certificate
of
appropriateness
would
somebody
acquire
based
on
the
type
of
work.
C
Then
we
have
the
application
that
tells
us
the
process
flow,
whether
something
is
Administrative
versus
going
to
the
historic
preservation,
commission
versus
just
general
maintenance
items,
and-
and
that's
this
here
we
call
it
a
kind
of
our
our
Matrix
and
then
we
have
the
standards
themselves
which
tell
us
the
different
requirements
for
review,
doing
work
and
and
construction.
C
So
the
standards
themselves
were
adopted
by
the
city
council.
Again
they
apply
to
the
local
historic
districts
and
the
landmarks
they're
administrated
administered,
either
by
the
HPC,
the
historic
preservation,
commission
or
city
staff
and
the
standards
help
to
distinguish
between
the
type
of
work
that
needs
to
be
applied
for
and
the
type
of
application
itself.
C
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
highlight
when
we
were
looking
at
the
creation
of
the
design
standards,
we
were
really
trying
to
modernize
the
standards
because
the
standards
themselves
were
previous
standards
were
over
30
years
old.
We
wanted
to
help
streamline
the
process
and
make
it
easier
for
applicants
as
well
and
just
kind
of
clarify
things
that
were
were
gray
or
kind
of
misunderstood.
So
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
as
we
go
through
this
PowerPoint
on
whether
or
not
we've
we've
met
those
goals.
C
Again,
this
just
kind
of
highlights
some
of
the
the
breakdown
in
our
standards
themselves
and
how
the
standards
are
developed.
Table
of
contents
was
really
helpful.
We
didn't
have
one
of
those
before
to
help.
C
C
So
the
matrices
that
I
referred
to
over
the
next
couple
of
slides,
helped
to
identify
based
upon
the
type
of
work
or
where
it
is
on
the
property
and
whether
or
not
an
item
would
fall
to
a
major
work
going
to
the
historic
preservation
commission
going
to
review
by
staff
through
a
minor
certificate
of
appropriateness
or
something
that
fell
just
under
general
maintenance
and
for
those
who
have
been
on
these
calls
before
you'll
know
that
we
did
do
a
number
of
shifts
from
items
going
from
major
to
minor
and
minor
to
general
maintenance
through
better
standards,
better
definitions,
more
direct
information
on
the
applications
themselves
and
and
better
better
insight
to
what
we
were.
C
Looking
for
so
I
think
that
we've
definitely
accomplished
a
number
of
a
number
of
more
positive
outcomes
associated
with
that.
C
Again,
just
kind
of
flipping
through
this
section
deals
with
structures,
building
features,
landscaping
and
other
site
features,
but
you'll
see
again
the
the
three
categories-
major
minor
and
no
cos.
C
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
give
a
quick
summary
of
the
trends
and
the
numbers
of
coas
and
I
went
back
through
our
annual
reports
that
get
submitted
to
the
state
historic
preservation
Commission.
C
They
they
review
our
annual
reports
and
then
certify
us
as
a
certified
local
government.
So
you
can
see
in
in
2018
and
2019
and
the
cat
and
the
years
go
from
or
the
time
period
within
the
years.
Don't
follow
the
calendar
year,
but
they
follow
like
October
to
September.
C
So
we
haven't
hit
a
full
year
yet
in
2023,
but
you
could
see
that
we
averaged
over
the
last
couple
of
years
about
40,
minor
and
major
coas
together
and
then
we've
we've
sort
of
dropped
a
little
bit
over
the
last
year.
That
may
be
due
to
a
number
of
different
reasons:
the
development
of
the
new
standards
and,
like
I,
said
the
the
shifting
from
items
going
from
major
to
minor
to
general
maintenance.
C
There's
also
I.
Think
more.
You
know
a
bit
of
a
Slowdown
in
in
projects
and
materials
over
the
last
several
years.
So
hopefully
those
men
will
pick
back
up,
but
it
could
be
that
people
are
just
doing
other
types
of
projects
and
not
coming
for
for
major
coas
or
minor
cos.
C
This
shows
the
same
information
just
in
a
different
graphic.
Again,
you
can
see
the
the
trends
and
the
shift
of
the
coas
over
the
last
several
years,
going
up
with
a
little
over
half
of
Majors
versus
minors
and
then
a
drop
in
the
last
year.
But
roughly
half
of
the
applications
were
more
major
coas
and
these
are
the
type
of
applications
that
we've
been
receiving
over
the
last
year
again,
with
the
miners
being
associated
with
fences
or
landscape
revisions,
roof
Replacements
garage
door,
upgrades
window
replacements
or
AC
and
unit
installations.
C
Those
are
all
the
the
applications
or
types
of
applications
that
we
review.
We
have
reviewed
administratively,
there's
no
requirement
for
public
notice
or
going
in
front
of
the
historic
preservation.
Commission
staff
reviews,
those
applications
and
pretty
much
if
they're
deemed
complete
can
review
them
in
a
day
or
two
which
certainly
helps
to
make
the
homeowners
or
property
property
owners
happy,
because
then
they
can
get
their
projects
done
really
quickly.
C
Then
these
are
the
the
different
major
applications
that
we
have
received
that
have
gone
in
front
of
the
historic
preservation.
Commission
there's
been
a
building
Edition
in
Glencoe,
a
new
driveway
associated
with
the
building
Edition
awning
removal.
C
C
So
again,
a
summary
of
the
applications
over
the
last
year
about
almost
equal
components,
dealing
with
fences,
patios
and
decks
roof
Replacements
window
replacements,
and
then
this
this
category
here
of
other
made
up
almost
a
third.
But
these
were
each
kind
of
individual
applications.
C
Foreign
some
of
the
general
maintenance
items
that
we
received,
calls
about
but
gave
feedback,
but
no
coas
were
required.
Installation
of
gutters,
where,
where
the
color
matches
the
trim
or
painting
of
siding
and
trim
replacement
of
doors
and
windows,
if
it
didn't
alter
the
appearance
and
then
removal
of
dead
or
diseased
trees,
we
in
the
past,
those
types
of
applications
have
had
to
go
in
front
of
the
historic
preservation
commission,
and
that
was
one
of
the
changes
that
were
made
when
we
developed
the
updated
standards.
C
C
And
then
just
another,
you
know
way
to
help
streamline
the
process
as
part
of
the
development
of
the
standards.
We
wanted
to
clearly
or
better
better
visually
depict
the
different
types
of
processes,
so
that
applicants
or
property
owners
could
get
a
better
sense
of
potentially
how
long
a
process
may
take
or
what
the
steps
may
be.
C
I
have
inserted
this
into
emails
when
I've
sent
feedback
to
folks,
so
it
helps
to
explain
the
process
a
bit
more,
and
we
found
this
to
be
a
very
useful
tool,
basically
outlining
you
know
the
no
coas,
the
minor
coas
and
then
the
major
coas,
with
the
final
outcome
of
you
know
if
somebody
needs
ultimately
a
building
permit,
and
with
that
in
mind,
the
design
standards
also
includes
information,
that's
just
as
a
reference
that
we
incorporated
in
conjunction
with
our
inspections
department
on
kind
of
next
steps.
C
If
somebody
is
performing
work
that
may
require
additional
permits,
we
wanted
to
be.
You
know,
kind
of
full
disclosure.
This
may
be
not
the
end
of
the
process,
but
you
might
have
one
more
step
and
we
certainly
didn't
want
somebody
to
not
be
aware
of
of
that,
and
there
certainly
are
things
that
work.
That's
performed
that
is
exempt
from
additional
permits
too.
C
So
this
is
just
kind
of
highlighting
if
you're
looking
for
additional
information
on
our
other
workshops
and
the
downtown
tour
was
recorded.
So
that's
also
another
aspect.
If
you're
interested
in
hearing
more
about
the
city.
C
One
of
the
I
wouldn't
say
outstanding,
but
kind
of
next
steps
that
we're
working
towards
as
part
of
the
standards
is
to
implement
the
design,
Review
Committee,
and
that
is
kind
of
a
voluntary
board.
That
was
not
comprised
of
historic
preservation.
Commission
members,
but
it
would
be
folks
who
are
interested
and
have
experience
or
expertise
in
in
historic
preservation
that
can
serve
as
a
resource
to
applicants
to
provide
feedback
and
advice
on
potential
applications
and
projects.
C
We
are
looking
to
implement
that
tool
so
that
it's
another
resource
for
the
community
to
to
to
get
feedback
on
probably
more
large-scale
projects
such
as
new
construction
or
major
additions.
C
So
these
are
there's
a
lot
of
words
on
this
screen,
but
again
when
we
started
the
process
in
the
development
of
the
design
standards,
we
had
three
overarching
goals
to
modernize
the
standards,
streamline
the
process
and
to
create
user-friendly
standards
and
I.
Think
we've
been
very,
very
successful
at
at
at
implementing
those
standards
and
and
achieving
them,
and
then
some
of
the
other
outcomes
I've
really
highlighted
through
the
presentation.
In
terms
of
you
know
what
we've
seen:
shifting
major
coas
to
minor
coas
and
general
maintenance
providing
more
flexibility.
C
We
also
instituted
an
expedited
process
for
emergency
situations
and
disaster
preparedness
we
haven't
had
to.
Luckily
we
haven't
had
to
to
worry
about
that
as
of
yet,
but
in
the
event
that
something
happens,
we
have
procedures
to
do
that,
as
well
as
the
design
Review
Committee.
We
feel
that
that
will
also
help
to
improve
the
process
so.
C
That
kind
of
you
know
summarizes
where
we
have
been
over
the
last
year
and
I
wanted
to
just
open
it
up
to
see
if
anyone
has
any
questions
or
if
anyone
on
the
historic
preservation
commission
has
their
own
Insight
on
the
implementation
of
the
standards
as
well.
B
Jamie,
this
is
Christy.
I've
got
a
quick
question
and
I
apologize.
I,
don't
have
my
camera
on
I'm
having
some
computer
issues
today,
but
what
kind
of
feedback
from
the
public
have
you
received?.
C
Well,
that's
a
great
question:
I
would
I
would
say
the
the
most
amount
of
feedback
that
we
got
from
the
public
was
probably
during
the
development
of
the
standards
themselves,
and
you
know
during
some
of
our
other
training
sessions.
I
did
go
over
the
the
level
of
Engagement,
which
was
I.
Think
part
of
this
success
in
the
development
of
the
standards
themselves.
We
had
representation
from
historic
district
residents,
people
on
the
historic,
historic
preservation
commission.
C
We
also
had
local,
Builders
and
Architects,
as
well
as
representation
from
preservation
Burlington,
which
is
a
local
non-profit.
So,
through
the
process
we
had
a
lot
of
public
engagement,
I
know
and
and
and
subsequent
to
that,
we've
had
postcards
to
go
out
and
our
postcards
went
out
to
all
of
the
property
owners
and
and
properties
and
Property
Owners
with
QR
codes.
That
would
link
to
where
you
could
find
the
standards
on
the
website.
C
We
we
also
held
these
different
online
and
in-person
workshops
to
promote
and
kind
of
solicit
feedback
from
the
public
too
and
and
kind
of
announce.
You
know
the
new
standards
themselves,
so
we've
had
very
positive
feedback
at
this
point,
and
hopefully
that
will
just
continue.
C
I
would
also
say
too,
that
the
design
standards,
just
like
any
other,
you
know,
document
like
our
unified
development,
ordinance
or
any
of
you
know.
Our
other
planning
documents
is
not
a
document
that
should
sit
on
the
on
the
Shelf.
You
know
we
we
look
at
on
a
work.
C
Part
of
the
process
will
be
to
look
at
it
on
an
annual
basis
to
see
if
there's
changes
or
modifications
that
need
to
be
made.
I
think
we're
still
at
a
point
where
their
standards
are
so
new
that
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
changes
at
this
point,
but
that's
not
to
say
in
the
future
that
that's
not
you
know
something
that
the
HPC
would
recommend
to
council.
B
It
did
thank
you
very
much
and
no
rush,
but
do
you
mind
sharing
a
copy
of
that
postcard
with
me,
and
would
you
feel
with
me
sharing
it
with
others
yeah.
C
Of
course
we
you
know,
we
certainly
would
appreciate
and
thank
the
state
historic
preservation
commission
too,
because
we
would
not
have
been
able
to
do
this
without
receiving.
C
You
know,
grant
that
helped
to
fund
the
this
project.
So
just
wanted
to
thank
Christy.
While
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so,.
B
Yeah,
you
guys
did
a
great
job
with
it
and
we're
great
to
work
with.
So
we
appreciate
you
thanks.
C
Any
any
other
questions.
D
So
Jamie
I
had
one
that
I
I
just
submitted
in
the
chat
and
I'd
be
interested
in
learning.
If
you
all
have
identified
any
needed
changes
to
just
the
actual
substance
of
the
standards,
you
know,
as
opposed
to
the
process,
I
mean.
Obviously
a
lot
of
focus
went
into
the
process
and
trying
to
make
it
more
user-friendly,
and
you
know
that
was
a
great
achievement
of
the
project,
but
I'd
also
be
interested
in
learning
like.
C
Nothing
specifically
comes
to
mind.
I
think
you
know
there's
there
may
be
some
some
fine
tuning
in
some
of
the
line
items
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
capturing
you
know
every
type
of
work.
C
It's
really
hard
to
do
that
to
you
know
our,
but
as
we
as
as
questions
come
in
or
or
items
are
requested,
that
may
not
be
captured
in
The
Matrix,
we're
we're
kind
of
keeping
a
log
of
that
so
that
that's
really
I
think
at
this
point
the
only
the
only
thing
that
I
would
say
in
terms
of
anything
any
modifications,
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
substantive
changes
that
need
to
be
to
be
made
at
this
point.
Brian
I,
don't
know.
E
Will
I
think
I
mean
I
was
really
happy
to
see.
E
You
share
those
numbers
of
applications
Jamie
because
it
really
does
show
that
there's
been
a
a
reduction
this
year,
I
was
going
to
say
downturn,
but
that's
a
kind
of
negative
take
on
it,
and
you
know
one
interpretation
of
that
change
might
be
that
under
the
new
standards
people
are
seeing
that
there's
work,
that
they
can
undertake
themselves
under
general
maintenance
without
having
to
submit
a
COA
and
and
perhaps
we're
not
getting
those
applications
that
we
might
have
in
the
past.
E
In
answer
to
Phil's
question
the
only
the
only
thing
that
occurs,
so
we
I
think
we
just
haven't
had
enough.
We
don't
have
enough
miles
on
the
standards
yet
to
know
where
the
sticking
points
might
still
be
and
I
think
we
need
some
more
accumulated
experience.
The
the
one
data
point
that
I
have
is
actually
a
personal
one
and
I
searched
recently.
E
I
just
talked
to
Jamie
about
this
the
other
day
to
see
if
I
could
strip
painted
masonry,
brick
on
my
house,
that
was
not
originally
painted
under
general
maintenance
or
whether
that's
a
COA
and
doesn't
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
captured
in
the
standards.
D
Yeah
thanks
for
mentioning
that
and
and
when
you
say
it's
not
captured
it's
not
on
the
Matrix
of
of
COA
versus
minor
or
minor
COA,
and
all
that
you
know,
and
that
makes
total
sense.
You
know
now
that
I'm
thinking
about,
because
when
you
put
that
kind
of
thing
together,
you're
you're,
initially
just
trying
to
think
of
every
conceivable
type
of
application
you
might
get,
but
there's
always
going
to
be
new
ones.
It's
always
like.
Aha,
we
didn't
think
we
didn't
anticipate
this
small.
D
You
know,
and
so
I
think
that's
a
real
natural
thing
that
over
time,
that
list
is
going
to
grow
and
grow,
and
you
know
I
I
hope
it
doesn't
become
sort
of
unwielded.
You
know.
Hopefully,
people
I
think
it's
organized
pretty.
Well,
though,
that
you
could
probably
at
least
figure
out
okay,
here's
a
category
of
of
types
of
work
and
then
you
could
find
it
in
there.
But
that
does
make
a
lot
of
sense
that
you
know,
as
time
goes
on
you're
just
going
to
be
expanding
that
list.
You
know
right.
E
I
mean
one
area
where
I
expect
just
further.
An
ongoing
discussion
is
around
alternative
materials.
You
know
as
as
Technologies
changes
the
markets,
change
and
everything
like
that
and
I
just
expect
that
to
be
ongoing
and
developing
conversation
across
you
know
multiple
hpcs
Etc.
C
Right
yeah
and
we
and
we
have
had
we
had
our
meeting
last
night.
So
all
of
this
is
pretty
fresh,
but
we've
had
you
know,
conversations
about
getting
more
educated
in
terms
of
what
some
of
these
other
materials
may
be,
and
you
know
engaging
with
the
contractors
and
the
and
the
folks
that
are
that
that
offer
alternative
materials
so
that
we
can.
We
can
have
better
judgment
when
these
applications
come
in.
E
E
E
You
know
to
think
more
broadly,
outside
of
just
our
national
register
historic
districts,
about
what
you
know,
what
roles
the
HPC
could
be
assuming.
So
all
of
these
feel
like
positive
developments
to
me
and-
and
you
know,
I
hope
that
we
embrace
them.
A
C
Yeah
certainly
certainly
and
appreciate
you
mentioning
that
Christy
you
want
to
plug
any
of
the
upcoming
classes
that
you
guys
are
offering.
B
Yeah
I've
got
lots
of
things
to
plug
where,
if
you're,
not
a
member
of
the
North
Carolina
preservation
list,
serve
I
encourage
you
to
join.
B
If
you
need
the
link
to
that,
I'll
be
glad
to
send
that
out
we're
having
an
upcoming
CLG
training
in
Washington,
North,
Carolina,
August,
24th
and
modern
materials.
That's
one
of
the
topics
read
Thomas
out
of
our
Eastern
office
will
be
discussing
that
we
are
also
having
a
training
in
Mount,
Airy,
August
31st
and
one
in
Sanford,
September
25th,
and
then
in
November
we're
having
a
planners
only
meeting
and
we'll
also
discuss
alternative
materials
there
and
one
more
thing:
I
want
to
plug
I'm
going
to
throw
it
in
the
chat.
B
We
have
to
do
a
Statewide
historic
preservation
plan
every
10
years
for
the
National
Park
Service,
it's
tied
to
our
funding
and
when
we
do
that,
we
send
out
a
survey
across
the
state
to
kind
of
try
to
get
some
input
on
just
get
the
pulse
of
historic
preservation
across
the
state,
so
I'm
going
to
throw
that
link
and
just
cut
and
paste
from
a
recent
email.
If
you
all
don't
mind
filling
out
that
survey,
we
would
really
really
appreciate
it.
C
Okay,
yeah,
and
we
can-
we
can
distribute
that
too,
with
our
to
our
historic
preservation
commission
as
well.
A
You
know
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
any
other
questions
come
up,
but
I.
You
know
for
a
final
for
a
final
thought.
If
there
was
one
I
know,
Philip
you've
gone
on
to
work
on
other
projects
and
as
our
consultant,
you
know.
What's
one
thing
that
you're,
you
know
that
you
might
have
taken
away
from
doing
this
update
that
you're.
Looking
at
you
know
when
you
talk
to
other
cities
around
the
southeast
or
whatnot
that
you're
kind
of
make
make
sure
to
remember.
Oh
this
is
what
happened
in
Burlington.
D
Yeah,
that's
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
so
right
now
I'm
working
on
guidelines
in
Wilmington
and
also
Decatur
Alabama,
and
in
both
we've
Incorporated,
the
major
minor
Matrix
and
the
materials
Matrix
and
people
love
it.
They
go
crazy.
I
mean
they
really
in
in
yo,
were
kind
of
the
the
Pioneers.
With
that
you
know
the
or
guinea
pigs
you
might
say,
but
it's
worked
out
well,
but
but
yeah
people
really
like
that
I
mean
they
find
it
a
real.
D
You
know
both
of
those
things
to
be
really
useful
tools.
I
mean
everything
else
in
the
in
the
standards
is
pretty
basic.
I
mean
it's
kind
of
a
compilation
of
looking
at
multiple
standards
and
taking
the
best
of
everything
and
and
get
and
trying
to
get
it
in
there
with
your
all,
so
I
think
they're,
pretty
comprehensive
and
stuff.
D
But
as
far
as
something
that
other
places
didn't
have
I'd
say
those
two
Matrix
were
the
thing
and
and
people
really
like
that
so
yeah,
that
would
be
my
biggest
sort
of
takeaway
from
the
the
Burlington
project.
C
D
C
Well,
I
guess
if
there
aren't
any
other
questions
or
comments,
I
I
don't
want
to
cut
anybody
short,
but
certainly
appreciate
everyone's
time
and
you
know.
Hopefully
we
can
continue
to
do
these
seminars
and
workshops
and
engage
the
public
and
continue
to
do
education
and
Outreach.
We're
talking
also
about
updating
our
walking
tour
materials
and
and
and
potentially
expanding
that
to
because
we
have
got
one
currently
for
West,
Davis,
district
and
and
potentially
doing
another
one
in
in
Glencoe
Mill.
C
So
you
know
I
think
we've
started
a
good
Trend
with
the
engagement
and
and
I
know
that
the
historic
preservation
commission
is
is
interested
in
in
continuing
that.
So
thanks
so
much
for
the
part.
Participation
and
again,
these
seminars
are
available
on
our
website,
which
is
Burlington
nc.gov
on
the
historic
preservation
page,
which
is
under
planning
and
feel
free
to
to
see
what
other
opportunities
we
have
thanks.
So
much
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Conrad
to
end
the
recording.
A
Great
yeah,
thank
you,
Jamie,
thank
you
Phillip
and
everyone
else
that
chimed
in
and
hopped
on
and
we'll
put
the
the
the
recording
up
as
soon
as
it's
available,
but
other
than
that
everyone
enjoy
your
evening
and
again,
thank
you
for
joining.
Have
a
good.