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From YouTube: Let's Talk Standards Webinar
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Let's Talk Standards Webinar
Join the City of Burlington's Planning Department as they explain the Local Historic Overlay Design Standards for the Historic Districts.
A
A
Is
a
is
a
collaborative
collaboration
with
our
local
historic
preservation,
Partners,
including
the
Walker
collaborative
city
of
Burlington's,
historic
preservation,
commission,
the
preservation,
Burlington
preservation,
North
Carolina
and
the
North
Carolina
State
historic
preservation
office.
A
The
let's
talk
series
is
three
different
webinars,
where
we've
discussed
the
processing
back
in
March,
and
today
we're
going
to
talk
about
standards
and,
later
on
in
the
week,
we're
having
an
exciting
downtown
walking
tour
with
remote
participation
for
folks
that
want
to
join
us
from
out
of
Burlington
the
and
then
in
August
we'll
have
a
one-year
touch
base
on
the
year
later.
B
Thanks
Conrad
and
thanks
for
everybody
who
is
participating
like
Conrad
said
this
is
going
to
be
recorded.
We
are
recording
now
so
these
webinars
will
be
available
on
the
city's
website.
I'm
going
to
go,
go
ahead
and
try
to
share
my
screen
here.
C
B
Okay,
great
So,
today
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
how
to
apply
the
local
historic
design
standards.
Those
were
adopted,
Last,
Summer
and
just
to
briefly
highlight
again
what
Conrad
said.
This
is
the
second
of
our
ongoing
series.
We
have
the
walking
tour
on
Friday
and
then
in
August,
we'll
have
kind
of
a
touch
in
touch
base
about
the
standards
after
one
year
of
them
being
established.
B
Again,
some
of
these
slides
are
a
little
repeat
of
what
we
talked
about
in
March,
so
you
can
always
go
back
to
that
webinar
if
you
want
kind
of
an
overview,
but
just
as
a
reminder,
the
standards
design
standards
are
applicable
to
the
two
local
historic
districts.
We've
got
the
first
one
that
was
designated
in
1987,
which
was
the
West
Davis
district
and
then
the
second
that
was
established
in
1999,
which
was
the
Glencoe
Mill
historic
district.
B
B
Standards
are
not
applicable
to
the
National
register
properties
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
those
for
for
reference
purposes.
B
Okay,
so
we'll
be
talking
about
three
different
concepts,
essentially
that
are
included
in
the
design
standards
and
there's
a
lot
of
of
information
beyond
the.
What
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
here,
too,
so
feel
free
to
peruse
it
at
your
leisure.
But
the
the
standards
essentially
are
are
comprised
of
the
Matrix,
which
tells
us
how
what
COA
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
acquire
based
upon
the
work
type.
B
The
application
tells
us
how
to
process
the
COA,
whether
it's
administrative
by
staff
or
through
the
historic
preservation
commission.
And
then
we
have
the
standards
themselves
which
tell
us
which
requirements
to
review
based
upon
the
different
types
of
projects.
B
B
And
I'm,
starting
on
B
on
on
page
B7,
you'll
you'll
be
looking
at
projects
that
would
be
applicable
within
the
public
right-of-way
streets,
sidewalks
utilities,
signage
Landscaping.
Those
are
all
different
things
that
you
will
find
under
the
public.
Right-Of-Way
types
of
work,
the
First
Column
you'll,
see
defines
the
major
type
of
work,
and
that
would
be
if
you're,
going
to
the
historic
preservation
commission
for
oversight.
Minor
is
Administrative
by
staff
and
no
COA
is
considered
general
maintenance.
B
We
have
other
categories
for
private
work
on
properties,
dealing
with
structures,
Landscaping
other
site
features.
B
But
in
general,
we're
talking
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
the
design
standards,
we're
looking
at
different
features,
and
this
starts
on
page
D1,
two
important
factors
when
considering
a
project
or
a
building
alteration
or
addition
deal
with
the
visibility
of
the
proposed
work
and
the
site's
context.
The
area,
that's
really.
What
we
want
to
focus
in
on
is
where
what
is
visible
from
the
public
street
that
should
be
given
the
highest
level
of
consideration
and
then
areas
that
are
visible
from
a
public
alley.
B
That's
a
secondary
level
of
concern,
it's
not
as
significant
and
then
rear
elevations
are
are
given
the
lowest
a
priority
for
Corner
Lots,
we're
typically
looking
at
both
aspects
from
from
the
street
and
then
in
terms
of
new
infill
development.
We
look
at
the
context
of
the
property
and
how
it
is
appropriate
compared
to
its
surroundings
in
terms
of
compatibility.
What's
the
relationship
of
the
building
to
the
street
and
its
adjacent
buildings,
front
and
side
building
setback,
the
average
Building
height
of
the
building
on
the
street?
B
What
is
it
compared
to
the
other
buildings
in
terms
of
the
roof
forms
pitch
and
materials?
Scale,
orientation
and
massing
of
the
buildings
are
very
important
as
well,
and
you
know
how
what
what
message
does
the
building
convey
compared
to
the
character
of
the
street
in
terms
of
the
Architectural
Components
and
detailing?
B
We
also
have
contributing
and
non-contributing
buildings
within
the
historic
district
and
those
are
based
upon
when
they
were
built
in
in
in,
in
terms
of
the
the
district
itself
and
and
different
characteristics
associated
with
that
the
design
standards
also
deal
with
material
deterioration
and
replacement
here.
So
those
are
the
the
major
things
that
we
would
be
taking
a
look
at
and
I'm
going
to
go
on
to
the
next
slide
here,
so
primarily
the
main,
because
our
districts
are
really
almost
fully
built
out.
B
The
main
focus
within
the
historic
district
and
urbanized
areas
such
as
a
Burlington,
are
maintenance
and
alteration,
and
it's
important
to
protect
those
elements
of
the
historic
districts
for
the
building
and
these
different
types
of
architecture.
Architectural
features
include
building
materials,
the
roof,
the
wall,
Windows,
porches,
doors,
storefronts
and
other
similar
elements.
The
design
standards
addresses
all
of
these
different
elements
within
the
document,
and
careful
consideration
must
be
given
prior
to
making
any
exterior
changes
to
a
historic
property.
B
B
So,
depending
upon
what
you're
doing
associated
with
the
project,
there
are
different
sections
dealing
with
maintenance
and
alteration
and
the
found
throughout
the
historic
areas.
Deterioration
of
historic
features
should
be
repaired
rather
than
replaced,
and
and
typically
we
do
like
to
see
existing
materials
replaced
with
with
the
same
materials
in
kind.
However,
there
are
various
different
types
of
Alternatives
that
are
included
within
the
digital
design
standards
themselves.
B
Here
are
some
examples
of
what
you
would
find
throughout
the
standards
themselves,
based
upon
the
different
categories.
This
is
an
example
dealing
with
walls.
You'll
see
that
we
have
maintenance,
design
standards
as
well
for
preservation
and
repair,
and
you
know
in
in
general
a
in
residential
areas,
which
is
primarily
what
we
have
for
our
historic
districts.
B
B
This
deals
with
Replacements
of
walls,
some
other
examples
that
you'll
find
within
the
historic
district
standards
are
specific
calls
call
outs
to
the
Glencoe,
Mill
historic
district
that
have
their
own
Declaration
of
covenants
that
go
above
and
beyond
our
local
historic
districts.
So
this
this
call
out
addresses
glencoe's
residential
roofs,
there's
sections
specifically
on
Windows
and
guidelines
to
address
maintenance,
preservation,
repair
and
replacement
of
Windows
and
shutters
such
as
other
features,
including
canopies,
awnings,
porches,
balconies
and
decks.
B
So
it's
a
pretty
very
comprehensive
approach
to
address
all
of
the
different
properties
that
you
would
find
and
and
and
and
projects
that
you
would
find
when
you
have
the
historic
district
section
on
artificial
materials
and
when
they
may
be
appropriate,
we
do
have
permitted
and
maybe
categories
for
the
various
different
building
materials
and
Alternatives.
B
Whole
section
on
additions
and
then
overall,
objective
dealing
with
additions
is
to
preserve
the
character
of
the
property
and
the
broader
historic
area,
but
to
also
allow
the
historic
area
to
continue
and
if
it,
in
its
Evolution.
So
when
you
talk
about
building
additions
or
really
focused
on
location
and
placement
scale
and
design,
and
the
differentiation
between
the
building
Edition
area
and
the
the
original
structure.
B
New
buildings,
again,
we
don't-
we
haven't,
had
many
applications
for
new
buildings
within
the
historic
districts,
but
we
have
standards
to
address
these
for
residential
commercial,
mixed
use.
Industrial
and
institutional
you'll
see
a
whole
different,
a
whole
wide
range
of
subcategories,
depending
upon
what
aspect
of
the
new
construction
you're
interested
in
learning
about.
B
Dealing
with
building
relocation
and
demolition,
relocation,
demolition
there
and
demolition
by
neglect
are
all
addressed
within
the
historic
district
design
standards
and
they
are
serious
threats
to
the
historic
district
themselves,
and
so
the
the
standards
address
a
lot
of
aspects
related
to
each
of
these
three
things.
B
The
relocation
of
a
historic
district
should
probably
be
the
last
resort
to
trying
to
save
a
building
from
Demolition,
but
the
standards
talk
about
why
that
may
be
as
well
as
difficult
demolitions.
So
these
are
different
characteristics
and
criterias
to
consider
that
should
help
guide
the
staff
and
also
the
historic
preservation
commission.
B
When
considering
projects
such
as
these,
they
would
both
come
in
for
a
major
COA
and
there
is
enabling
legislation
State
Statute,
when
somebody
is
coming
in
for
a
demolition,
that
there
is
a
delay
period
of
up
to
365
days
from
the
date
of
approval
and
that
allows
the
property
owner
the
HB
HPC
to
potentially
have
some
time
to
seek
alternatives
to
demolition.
B
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
too
much
detail
what
the
standards
also
do
address
demolition
by
neglect,
so
there's
a
process
associated
with
that
outlined
further.
We
talked
at
the
last
meeting
to
that.
We
provided
in
the
standards
this
Matrix
that
that
should
help
guide
how
to
follow
the
process
and
depending
upon
which
type
of
application
and
what
type
of
work
you
would
like
to
do
on
the
property
again.
B
B
You
know
the.
What
is
what
what
is
reviewed,
how
it's
deemed
complete,
what
the
time
frames
are
and
and
any
kind
of
necessary
next
next
steps
again,
the
presentation
that
I
did
in
March
goes
into
more
detail.
Associated
with
that
also
helpful
in
the
design
guidelines
is
kind
of
a
follow-up
once
you
have
gone
through
your
COA
or
have
established
type
of
work
that
you
want
to
do.
B
B
And
just
for
more
information
on
our
upcoming
events,
as
we
have
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
there
are
there's
going
to
be
a
walking
tour
on
Friday,
starting
at
6
p.m
and
then
on
August
9th
at
6
p.m.
We're
going
to
have
a
follow-up!
B
So
I
think
at
at
this
point,
I
tried
to
be
as
brief
as
possible
so
that
we
would
allow
additional
time
for
questions
and
questions
and
answers.
There
are,
let's
see,
some
a
number
of
people
on
the
call.
So
if
there's
anyone
who
has
a
question
for
myself
or
for
the
Consultants
who
prepared
the
design
standards,
please
raise
your
hand,
use
the
raise
hand,
feature
or
dial
Star
nine.
A
B
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
any
hands
raised
I
do
see
Brian
Pennington
I'm
going
to
pick
on
him
just
so
we
can
maybe
spark
some
conversation.
Brian
Pennington's,
the
chair
of
the
historic
preservation
commission,
so
I
didn't
prep
him
for
anything,
but
I
just
wanted
to
throw
it
to
you
Brian
to
to.
If
you
had
any
questions
for
staff
or
any
feedback
on
any
of
the
applications
that
have
come
in
through
you
guys,
since
the
new
standards
are
in
place.
D
D
Things
like
that
flow
chart
that
Philip
and
Keith
have
helped
to
produce
is
really
useful
for
property
owners
and,
additionally,
I'll
just
say,
like
the
staff
at
the
City
Planning
Department
are
always
very
happy
to
consult
with
property
owners
who
might
be
considering
Renovations
or
exterior
work
or
Landscaping
work
on
the
outside.
We've
really
worked
to
make
the
process
friendlier
to
home
owners
and
are
taking
this
opportunity
of
a
Year's.
D
You
know
anniversary
of
the
standards
just
make
to
think
about
what
we've
learned
from
working
with
them
make
adjustments
that
might
continue
to
make
them
more
friendly
for
everybody.
B
Yep
Brian:
that's
that's
exactly
what
we
attempted
to
do
and
I
think
we're
I!
Think
we're
achieving
it.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
folks.
You
know
still
give
staff
a
call
even
for
the
property
projects
that
fall
under
general
maintenance,
still
looking
for
advice
from
staff
on
on
the
appropriate
thing
to
do
so.
B
We
we
appreciate
when
property
owners
and
applicants
contact
us,
and
we
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
Outreach
to
to
share
the
message
of
the
new
standards
through
postcards
and
and
and
mailings
and
and
continue
we'll
continue
to
do
so
to
get
the
word
out,
because
some
people,
you
know,
may
not
know,
but
all
of
these
different
seminars
and
workshops
are
are
available
on
the
website,
so
any
feel
free
to
to
spread
the
word
and
then,
like
you,
said,
staff
is
always
happy
and
available
to
to
to
be
of
assistance
at
any
point
in
the
process.
B
D
Really
easy,
first
step
for
anybody
considering
any
kind
of
work
is
just
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
conrader
Jamie,
always
easy
to
reach
always
happy
to
talk,
and
just
say
like
this:
this
is
your
next
step.
Here's
what
to
do!
Here's
things
to
think
about
Etc.
C
B
I
would
say-
and
this
these
haven't
been
shared
yet
with
both
the
full
HPC
but
staff
is
you
know,
looking
at
the
Matrix
to
just
see
if
there's
anything
that
that
needs
to
be
tweaked
to
any
language
that
needs
to
be
clarified.
Any
scope
of
works
that
may
not
have
been
included
or
projects
that
you
know
kind
of
where
there
may
be
gray.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
little
bit
more
black
and
white.
B
So
those
are
nothing
major
glaring
at
this
point
happily
happily
said,
but
you
know,
as
with
any
other
document,
just
like
our
unified
development
ordinance.
The
design
standards
is
a
living
and
breeding
breathing
document
that
we
that
that
I
know
you
know
we
will
be
looking
at
on
an
annual
basis,
and
even
you
know,
as
applications
come
in
regularly
to
see
you
know,
are
things
in
line
with
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
local
historic
district
and
the
city's
comprehensive
plan?
B
B
And
really
I
think
the
only
the
only
couple
things
that
I've
seen
are
just
we.
We
get
a
lot
of
applications
for
routine
maintenance,
type,
work,
replacement
of
existing
porches
or
decks
with
just
you
know,
updated
materials
and
there's
so
there's
some
I
think
there's
some
sections
of
the
of
the
Matrix
that
just
need
to
address
a
little
bit
more
replacement
and
upgrade.
B
And
those
to
me
are,
you
know,
usually
general
maintenance
or
in
some
cases
minor
minor
coas.
But
those
are
those
are
pretty
much
the
only
the
only
things
that
I've
seen
so
far.
E
The
only
thing
I'll
say
is
Brian
as
much
as
Phil
and
I
would
love
to
take
credit
for
the
Matrix.
In
terms
of
the
the
approval
process,
we
have
to
give
that
to
staff
they
they're
they're,
the
ones
that
develop
that
graphic,
which
really
helps
I.
Think,
as
you
stated,
people
understanding
the
process
so
kudos
to
Jamie
and
her
team
for
doing
that.
B
Yeah,
the
part
of
part
of
what
we
looked
at
too
sort
of
separate
and
aside
from
the
design
standards,
was
a
an
evaluation
of
the
of
the
process
itself
too.
So
that
was
incorporated
as
part
of
kind
of
staff's
overview
of
this
of
this
process,
and
we,
you
know
the
goal
is
to
is
to
help.
You
know,
make
these
processes
as
user-friendly
as
possible,
so
we
often
find
that
diagrams
or
or
flow
Tarts
help
describe
pretty
simply
what
could
be?
You
know
a
confusing
process,
so
hopefully
that's
that's.
B
The
intent
of
that
planning
staff
also
is
kind
of
in
the
midst
and
I'll
and
I'll.
Let
Conrad
kind
of
take
the
lead
on
the
conversations
of
what
what
he's
doing,
but
we
are
also
developing
a
whole
library
of
videos
for
educational
and
Outreach
purposes
too
Conrad.
You
want
to
talk,
you
want
to
give
yourself
a
little
plug.
A
You
know
we
also
had
some
help
from
code
right
planners
or
other
consultant
who's,
helping
us
with
the
Udo
with
Chad
Meadows
I
mean
you
know
it's
pretty
cool
to
see
such
a
collaborative
out
a
product,
make
an
impact
and
to
Jamie's
point
we're
we're
here
to
make
things
easier
and
simpler
and
easier
to
understand,
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
the
that's
the
spirit
of
these
videos
that
we're
doing
working
with
the
team
here
to
create
some
instructional
videos
that
are
like
two
to
three
minutes
long.
A
Just
to
help
you
know
how
do
you
do
a
certificate
of
appropriateness?
You
know
here's
a
video
on
how
you
know
utilizing
the
the
YouTube
playlist
or
just
the
video
as
a
resource
where
someone
could
look
on
their
phone
or
at
home
on
a
laptop
or
a
tablet
and
just
kind
of
learn
how
to
do
the
process.
That's
we've
noticed.
That
is
something
that
we
were
finding
a
lot
of
our
communication.
A
Well,
maybe
we
can
just
make
a
video
of
that
and
throw
it
up
online
and
people
can
look
at
it
at
their
own,
their
own
Leisure,
so
kind
of
in
the
spirit
of
this
video,
this
webinar
and
the
walking
tour
we're
having
hopefully
folks
from
out
of
town,
can
is
join
in
on
the
zoom
and
we'll
give
that
a
test
run,
because
our
plan
is
for
additional
educational
opportunities
in
the
coming
year.
B
Yep,
thank
you.
Let's
see
any
any
other
questions.
B
Okay,
I
see,
there's
a
question
from
Catherine
Rowe.
Can
you
tell
us
how
you
inform
new
residents
in
an
historic
neighborhood
about
the
standards?
Do
you
or
do
you
conduct
Outreach
of
some
kind?
That's
a
great
question.
I
wish
that
we
had
the
ability
to
track
when
properties,
change,
ownership
or
new
Tenants
come
in.
We
don't.
We
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
We
we
do
have
all
of
our
information
on
the
website.
B
We've
been
sending
out
postcards
two
Property
Owners,
not
just
Property
Owners,
but
also
if
a
property
owner
isn't
living
at
in
the
location
in
the
historic
district,
that's
been
going.
The
information's
been
going
also
to
the
address
associated
with
the
property
owner.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
Outreach
that
we
have
been
doing
and
I
know
that
preservation
Burlington
who's,
a
non-profit,
local
non-profit.
They
are
very
interested
in
and
engaged
in
the
community
as
well.
B
I
know
the
historic
districts
are,
are
kind
of
kind
of
tight,
niched,
neighborhoods
and,
and
people
do
talk
to
each
other
in
the
neighborhood
too,
and
get
information
that
a
lot
of
times.
That's
how
people
know
how
to
reach
out
to
us
they've
been
told
by
their
neighborhood
to
contact.
B
So
we
have
also
done
some
Outreach
to
the
local
Realtors
I,
attended
a
seminar
last
year
and
did
a
very
similar
presentation,
just
kind
of
doing
an
overview
of
the
historic
districts
and
the
process
and
the
standards
for
about
an
hour
and
a
half
to
local
Realtors,
helping
to
spread
the
word
that
you
know,
properties
in
the
local
historic
districts.
Have
you
know,
added
added
benefits,
but
and
also
additional
standards
that
they
need
to
address
Conrad.
Do
you
have
anything
else
that
you
want
to
add
yeah.
A
I
think
that's
a
great
question
that
we
heard
a
lot
about
that
when
we
were
doing
the
design
standards,
update
and
all
the
engagement,
so
we've
seen
that
postcards
to
all
the
all
properties
and
like
Jimmy
was
saying,
but
I
mean
the
the
simpler.
The
thing
that
we
do
on
a
daily
basis
is
we'll
answer
a
zoning
question.
So
someone
will
a
realtor
or
a
potential
buyer
we'll
call
our
office.
It's.
A
336-222-5110-336-22-5110
and
you
just
go
hey:
what's
the
Zoning
for
my
property
and
we'll
look
it
up,
you
know
so
sometimes
the
MLS
doesn't
indicate
that
it's
historic
or
it
might
be
historic,
but
it's
not
in
the
local
historic
district.
So
maybe
the
property
is
part
of
the
national
register,
which
is
different
than
what
we're
discussing
right
now.
But
you
know,
hopefully
folks,
will
just
call
the
office
and
get
that
verbal
confirmation
from
staff.
You
can
also
look
at
it
yourself
online
and
we'll
get
some
well.
A
That's
a
great
video
we
can
do
is
my
property
historic
and
we
can
do
a
video
tutorial
on
how
to
look
it
up
online
using
our
online
GIS.
But
all
that
is
like
Jamie
says
we're.
We
want
to
be
as
proactive
as
possible
to
have
a
situation
where
someone
knows
what
they're
purchasing
and
knows
what
the
zoning
districts
are
and
what
the
overlay
districts
are.
So
that
way,
they're
aware
of
what
what
their
investment
is.
C
So
I
got
a
quick
question
for
Jamie.
When
you
presented
to
the
local
Realtors
did,
did
they
seem
to
be
pretty
supportive
or
or
appreciate
the
value
of
historic
zoning,
or
did
you
get
pushed
back
or
was
it
kind
of
a
mixed
bag
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
as
to
what
you
know
what
perspective
they
brought
to
that.
B
B
So
it
really
is,
you
know
a
realtor's
responsibility
to
help,
educate
and
inform
their
clients
on
on
zoning
on
regulations,
and
that
should
definitely
include
if
a
property
is
located
in
a
historic
district,
which
is
a
zoning
overlay,
District.
So
I
think
you
know
we
we
try
not
to
point
any
Fingers,
but
they're
The,
Voice,
obviously
of
selling
a
property,
so
that's
good
and
bad.
B
Sometimes
they
may
not
be
aware
also
that
a
property
is
in
a
historic
district.
So
you
know
staffs
staffs.
Perspective
is
as
much
Outreach
and
education.
We
can
do
to
the
community
on
where
to
find
to
be
useful
tools
on
how
you
can
get
information
about
properties
is,
is
good
and-
and
we
will
continue
to
do
to
do
that.
B
B
A
So
a
question
when
someone
gets
an
approval
from
staff
from
the
standards.
What
do
they
get
from
us.
B
That
is
a
great
question
too.
So,
once
the
application
comes
in,
if
it's
reviewed
by
staff
and
it's
considered
administrative
and
we
will
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
that
will
track
with
your
property,
so
anyone
staff
internal
wise
will
see
that
that
that's
been
approved.
So
if
you
have
to
then
go
for
any
other
types
of
permits
that
and
that
question's
already
been
answered,
did
I
get
a
COA,
that's
already
tracked
internally,
and
then
you
will
also
get.
B
A
yellow
placard
that
will
be
completed
that
should
be
displayed
visible
to
the
street,
so
that
folks
know
in
the
area
that
you
have
gone
through
the
process
and
and
and
the
nature
of
work
that's
under
undergoing
is,
is
approved,
so
you'll
get
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
the
yellow
card,
and
then,
if
there's
any
other
permits
that
are
needed,
that
would
be,
you
know,
subject
to
the
applicant
or
the
property
owner
obtaining
those.
B
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
any
others
again.
We
are
certainly
available
if
you
have
any
other
questions,
if
there's
things
that
you
think
need
to
be
included
in
the
standards
that
are
not
being
addressed,
we
are
always
open
to
hearing
your
feedback
again.
B
This
is
a
living
breathing
document,
so
we
we
can
always
consider
alternatives
and
and
make
adjustments
and
Conrad
has
put
in
the
chat
the
information
on
Friday
hope
you
can
participate,
whether
in
person
or
virtually
we're
attempting
to
have
a
virtual
tour
of
the
downtown
Conrad's
going
to
be
filming
it
and
we're
really
excited
about
that
or
you
can
reach
the
planning
department
with
any
additional
questions.
B
I'd
like
to
just
thank
staff,
members
and
HPC
and
and
our
consultants
for
joining
us
on
the
seminar
and
feel
free
to
follow
us,
along
as
we
continue
our
Outreach
and
education,
going
forward
cool
all
right,
I'm
streaming.
Well,
thank
you
from
Greensboro
great
we're
happy
to
oh.
B
It
just
just
so
you
know
if
you
are
a
CLG
and
you're
trying
to
get
credits.
These
seminars
are
also
being
you
can
get
credits
through
the
state,
historic
preservation
office
towards
your
CLG
required
credits
by
attending
these
seminars,
thanks
so
much.