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Planning and Zoning Commission - April 24, 2023
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A
This
is
a
public
meeting
and
it's
being
recorded.
If
you
want
to
speak
to
any
matter,
it
comes
before
us
tonight.
We'll
give
you
a
chance.
You
must
state
your
name
and
address
before
you
speak.
Our
time
limit
for
comments
is
three
minutes
elected
officials
appoint
this
commission,
which
has
six
regular
members
and
three
alternatives.
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Item
number
three
is
request:
23007
to
rezone
from
conditional
business
to
General
business,
limited
use.
The
property
is
located
on
the
northwest
corner
of
the
intersection
of
business,
Station
Drive
and
Garden
Road
addressed
as
3315
Garden
Road
and
consisting
of
Alamance
County
tax
identification,
number
112,
655.
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B
Under
the
current
conditions,
which
are
stated,
is
limiting
to
retail
restaurant
hair.
Nail
salons,
say:
I
found
that
that
particular
end
use
wasn't
consistent
with
the
current
2019
UDF,
so
it
based
on
conversations
with
planning
staff,
pre-application
conference
and
prior
to
that,
this
application
to
go
to
General
business
when
it
used
most
primarily
intended
to
get
the
conditions
to
dovetail
more
with
the
current
2019
UDS
end
of
the
have
a
little
clearer
definition.
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A
B
E
B
We
haven't
really
grown
that
I,
don't
even
know
if
this
particular
potential
tenant
is
familiar
with
that
I've
been
in
there
before
it
seems
like
they're,
probably
a
bit
more
broader
in
their
product
offerings
for
All
Occasions.
As
far
as
the
Specialty
Foods
and
that
sort
of
thing,
if
I
recall,
correct
I,
didn't
hear
to
mention
those
books.
B
Plans
for
that
for
I
was
thinking
more
of
the
model
side
for
All
Occasion
of
it.
It's
it's
a
Bottle
Shop
with
a
gift
shop.
That's
right,
because
if
I
recall,
the
rentals
license,
I've
been
in
there
to
pick
up
like
the
dispensers
premises
to
the
long
and
short
of
it
is
you
get
2
700
square
feet
of
empty
space
where
you
have
a
boss,
that's
interested
in
moving
into
that
empty
space.
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I
I
I
I
Addition
to
the
Bottle
Shop
the
applicant
is
proposing.
This
is
a
limited
use,
so
they're
they're
proposing
there's
a
total
of
119
uses
that
would
be
allowed
if
you're
coming
in
with
a
with
a
conventional
toning
and
they're,
proposing
a
68
uses
out
of
Illinois
19.
So
it's
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
half
they've
eliminated.
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B
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I
Good,
thank
you
for
that
comment.
Just
be
aware
that
any
of
the
uses
that
are
proposed
would
be
subject
to
any
of
the
use
specific
standards.
So
there
is
a
distance
requirement
for
and
bottle
shops
are,
would
fall
under
the
same
use
specific
standards
as
a
bar
as
a
cocktail
lounge
or
private
club.
So
if
there
is
a
school
or
a
religious
institution,
it
needs
to
be
at
least
200
feet.
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C
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H
H
G
All
right,
we
have
a
recommendation
from
the
staff.
Is
there
a
motion
chairman?
Yes,
sir
option,
one
to
approved
consistent
with
LED
I
make
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
requests
from
his
own
property
from
conditional
business.
He
did
at
8
to
10
to
General
business.
Limited
use,
gblu
property
is
located
on
the
northwest
corner
of
the
intersection.
Bridge
Station,
Drive
and
Garden
Road
address
is
3315
Garden
Road
and
consisted
with
Alamance
County
tax
identification.
Number
112655
promotions,
based
upon
the
consistency
of
proposed
rezoning
with
the
comprehensive
plan
in
that
the
future
land
use
map.
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In
section,
four
Landings
of
the
comprehensive
plan
calls
from
this
area
to
have
Regional
commercial
uses.
The
request
is
compatible
with
the
adjacent
commercial
and
residential
uses.
This
action
is
reasonable
and
in
public
interest,
in
that
the
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
commercial
and
residential
uses
in
the
area.
The
request
is
compatible
with
the
existing
zoning
and
land
uses
in
the
area.
The
work
we've
got
a
motion
to
have
a
second.
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This
request
is
to
rezone
from
light
industrial
to
conditional
and
industrial
property
is
located
on
the
east
side
of
Holly
Street
north
of
the
intersection
of
Holly
Street
and
Maryland
Avenue
address
is
zero
poly
stream
and
consisting
of
Alamance
County
tax
identification
numbers
one
three,
eight
two,
six
four
Mr
Ryan
Woods
is
here
to
make
the
presentation.
Please
come
in
front
and
make
your
presentation,
sir.
All
right.
J
Kind
of
brief
presentation
here
to
relate
things
out
so,
as
outlined
just
some
of
the
basics.
Oh
thank
you
very
much
and
we've
got
I'm
an
attorney.
So
if
you
have
technical
questions,
we
have
folks
here
that
can
answer
some
of
the
technical
questions
so
obviously
feel
free
to
stop
and
asking
questions
as
you
can
see
from
the
staff
award.
This
is
a
request
to
rezone
a
small
portion
of.
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K
Tower,
it's
helping
your
patient's
power
generally
write,
all
that
yellow
the
just.
So
you
know
everything
I
want
to
hear
from
purple
through
some
outlet
and
purples,
because
all
all
these
properties
that
I'm
going
to
do
for
those
who
have
any
historic
minute.
This
is
a
these-
are
also
Piedmont
desks.
J
J
And
designated
for
Business,
Parkway
and
Industrial
attend
this
is
requested.
Resume
is
consistent.
The
reason
for
the
request
is
to
allow
for
a
tower
your
request.
Approval
for
a
315
foot
tall
tower-
you
may
say
Toby
is
that
is
that
what's
allowed
during
the
union,
I
will
tell
you
the
answer.
Is
you
know
we're
asking
for
something
that
is
taller
than
a
lot
of
others.
J
So
you
can't
see
this
this
very
well
that
I'll
point
this
out,
so
there's
a
series
of
antenna
here.
A
lot
of
this
is
playing
for
do
internal
use.
There
are
a
couple
spaces
for
self-empowers,
but
one
of
the
most
important
aspects
here
this
antenna
right
here,
it's
known
as
a
Canadian,
a
cambium
antenna
and
what
that
is
essentially,
is
a
very,
very
powerful
Wi-Fi
antenna.
Basically,
what
it
does
is
the
Duke
has
knocked
over
this
next
one.
J
So
do
cash
substations,
as
you
know,
all
around
there
and
those
that
are
not
served
by
fiber
optic
lines
used
to
be
served
by
old,
copper
lines,
and
basically,
what
has
happened
is
is
that
what's
happened
is
that
they
need
to
update
or
create
those
because
they're
all
unmanned
they're
all
going
to
monitored,
and
so
what
they've
done
is
they've
installed.
These
things
called
camping,
poles,
they're
towers
with
a
basically
a
Wi-Fi
antenna
on
top,
so
they
can
remote
the
monitor
and
they
go
offline
et
cetera.
J
They
can
get
out
there
faster.
Well,
this
Tower
right
here
on
is
served
by
fiber
optic
and
it
will
be
the
Hub
to
the
to
the
all
where
all
the
substations
will
send
their
Communications
in
to
get
onto
the
fiber
optic
line
and
the
reason
we're
asking
for
a
taller
Tower
is
because
it
can
cover
more
more
of
these
substations.
J
So,
as
you
can
see
on
the
left,
if
you
have
a
200
foot,
if
you
have
a
300
foot
Tower
again,
the
cambium
hole
gaming
pool
is
at
245
feet
there
on
a
300
foot
Tower.
So
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you've
got
a
300
foot
tower
that
can
cover
about
30
to
32
substations,
these
are
the
two
that
they
can't
cover.
J
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J
Plant
is
impacted
in
the
park,
will
have
the
major
conditions,
so
staff
can
predict
the
phone
wrong,
but
I
believe
that
under
white
industrial
television
star
is
a
Specialties
Zucker
conditioning
special
use
conditions,
and
so
what
we're
proposing
is
it's
basically
and
going
through
this
rezoning?
This
a
tower
has
proposed
in
the
cycling
would
be
permitted.
J
A
The
right
away
on
the
Holly
Street
here,
the
fall
radius
is
established
by
an
engineering,
so
it's
85
feet.
Basically,
what
they
determine
is
at
the
top
of
the
in
high
winds,
the
top
of
the
tower
collapse
down,
and
so
that's
where
they
get
that
85..
The
whole
thing
wouldn't
fall
over
according
to
the.
What
they've
done
is
they've
engineered
it
so
that
it
collapses
in
on
itself
producing
the
the.
J
It
is
85
feet
is
the
or
87
feet
is
a
weak
setback
from
this
property
line?
It's
about
145
to
this
apartment.
Building
here,
which
is
the
nearest
residential
structure.
The
design
is
a
is
designed,
obviously,
in
higher
ends
up
219
miles
per
hour
than
the
generally
designed
to
one
and
two
discuss.
What
I
think
would
be
a
reasonable
question
here,
which
is
okay.
You've
got
this
here.
J
You've
got
a
12
acres
here
at
White,
House.
Well,
there's
there's,
as
is
outlined
in
our
our
packet.
There's,
there's
some
significant
restrictions
on
this
property
that
that
limited
more
than
you
might
think
as
initial
collage,
because
that
was
the
first
question.
I
asked
when
I
got
routine
to
do
this,
so
this
property
again
as
I
mentioned,
is
the
old
Bronson
manufactured
gas
plant.
There
is
for
both
of
this
area.
So
here
is
a
substation.
Here's
some
Frontage
both
of
this
area
is
contaminated
soils
or
potentially
titanium
soils.
J
It
there
shouldn't
be
any
problems
if
you
disturb
it
you're
going
to
have
to
remove
a
lot
of
potentially
remove
a
lot
of
the
soil
here.
This
these
two
parcels
do
not
have
potential
protein
in
soils.
This
parcel
up
here
has
a
large
truck
bag
and
the
areas
around
the
big
Suite
make
it
so
that
you
don't
really
have
much
room.
J
J
J
314
pink
I,
don't
know
that
you
can
get
those
they
may
be
out
of
stock,
it's
mainly
shrubs
so
and
but
it's
offset
and
there
will
be
obviously
a
secured
fence
around
here.
This
we
have
submitted
so
there's
a
variety
of
zoning
condition,
requirements
related
to
permitting
of
towers.
We
have
submitted
FNAF,
FAA
lighting
studies
and
other
things.
J
Is
so
there
was
there
there's
an
old
gas
manufacturing
plant
that
was
on
this
site,
I
think
it
would
show
up
on
the
fire
Insurance
mass
in
like
1929,
if
not
earlier,
according
to
State
studies,
it's
called
it's
called
the
Burlington
manufactured
gas
plan,
and
so,
as
my
guess
in
1920
1930,
they
were
not
quite
as
careful
with
how
they're
handling
eating
oils
and
other
things
like
that.
So
my
understanding
is:
that's
that's
what
the
potential.
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J
J
H
J
Right
and
and
what
that
again,
what
this
whole
system
does
is
you
know
as
we
as
I
think
most
people
know
these
substations
are
remote
and
they
go
out
and
extreme
weather.
Otherwise
these
remote
systems
help
Target
emergency
repairs
faster
things
like
that.
So
that's
that's
what
this
town
has
been
helping
to
facilitate.
So
is
this
tower
for
human
communication
or
Electronics
electronic?
L
L
We're
fighting
two
things
we
have
to
have
land
and
it
needs
to
be
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
our
Target
area.
So
that's
that's
why
this
location
is
coupled
with
the
fact
that
I've
already
got
Bible
to
it.
So
you
know
this
is
the
I
get
the
network
to
the
Tower
and
then
it
gives
RF
to
get
to
the
far
end
or
get
to
the
trucks
and.
H
J
J
J
E
The
way
I
understand
this
is
you're,
going
to
pick
up
communication
to
the
substations
to
let
you
know
about
outages
and
other
potential
problems.
Correct
correct
I
mean
not
this
is
it
this
isn't
just
for
athletes.
This
is
for
other
potential
problems.
Maybe
I
I,
don't
know
much
about
electricity,
admittedly,
but
the
benefit
to
Duke
and
to
the
to
the
public
would
be
five
additional
substations
the
benefit
for
the
additional
height
the
benefit
of
the
additional
hot
under
the
current
zone.
Is
there
a
time?
Can
you
put
a
tower
there
of
200
feet?
I
M
J
Of
Duke
Energy,
which
in
my
experience,
has
not
translated
to
the
customer
ever
well,
you
may
be
speaking
about
things
in
your
own
personal
experience
related
to
customer
service
and
certainly
appreciate
that,
and
that's
that
you
know
your
experience
is
fair
and
and
but-
and
we
can
talk
to
you
about
that-
your
customer
experience
outside
of
this
room.
But
here's
where
I
think
that
the
public
benefit
comes
in
and
I
think
there
is
a
significant
public
benefit.
J
The
as
I
mentioned
Duke
has
historically
monitored,
remotely
monitored
these
facilities
basically
be
a
an
old
copper
line
right,
a
little
telephone
line.
Those
are
all
going
out
of
service
because
it's
the
21st
century
and
nobody,
everybody
carries
a
computer
in
their
pocket
in
order
to
continue
to
monitor
them,
they've
had
to
figure
out
ways
to
get
it
connected
to
the
modern
system,
and
so
either
you
connect
by
fiber
via
a
secure
network.
J
That's
not
hackable,
which
isn't
every
fiber
line
in
in
and
around
town
or
you
put
in
a
what
they
call
Campion
pole,
which
is
essentially
this
wi-fi
event.
If
you
put
in
the
Wi-Fi
pole,
it's
got
to
communicate
with
somewhere
that
has
fiber
and
so
there's
a
limited
number
of
places
that
serve
that
basically
can
serve
these
things
that
are
available.
J
This
is
one
of
them
it's
at
a
central
location
in
Alamance
County,
and
it
provides
for
in
outages
a
place
where
you
can
have
good
coverage
so
that
all
of
these
places
can
be
covered
in
emergency
situations
which
go
which
we
may
have
been
talking
about
in
terms
of
customer
service,
or
you
may
have
been
talking
about
other
issues.
I'm
not
sure.
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L
It,
but
it's
a
little
too
ignore
it's
a
200
foot
Tower
it's
in
a
substation,
it's
about
60
years
old,
it's
going
to
come
down
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to
facilitate
that
and
said
I
mean
it's
old
and
I've
got
to
do
something
right
so
that
that
really
precipitated
this.
This
book,
which
we've
been
looking
for
five.
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L
A
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L
A
The
capacity
so
this
is
not
just
Duke
power,
then
it
could
be,
it
could
be,
it
could
be,
but
we're
not
building
it
for
commercials.
Okay,
no,
not
right
now,
you're,
not,
but
the
idea
is,
you
could
add
on
or
release
out.
We
we
load,
we
we
call
it
Tower
loading.
Do
you
do
any
at
the
Lynn,
Raven
Tower,
okay,.
L
L
L
J
So
we
see
this
as
we
have
worked
out,
as
you
know,
from
the
packet.
This
is
something
where
staff
has
recommended
approval.
We
do
recognize
that
this
is
something
where
there's
going
to
be
feedback.
We
expected
that
frankly,
we
knew
that
there's
going
to
be
negative
feedback,
and
so
we
also
want
to
use
this
product
we're
going
to
use
this
process
to
the
labs,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
craft
something
that
both
need.
Students
needs
and
is
as
workable
as
possible.
J
It
depends
on
what
you
define
as
the
neighborhood,
so
Holly
Street,
and
the
residents
here
may
have
some
some
more
information
that
you've
got.
You
know
some
problems
are
end
up
in
the
residential.
You've
got
a
limited
number
of
property,
or
at
least
two
properties
owned
by
Piedmont.
So
this
is
all
three
monitoring.
There
is
more
residential
over
here
and
I.
Don't
know
the
number.
E
J
M
Can
you
study
in
my
past
I've
actually
done
some
third-party
testing
of
crane
joints,
which
are
remarkably
similar
to
some
of
the
construction
of
the
towers
that
we're
looking
at
tonight?
How
did
you
guys
remodel
the
fall
studies?
Was
it
all
simulated
space
in
the
software
CAD
generator
type
of
modeling?
Did
you
do
actual
physical
models.
L
L
H
N
N
N
H
N
Without
a
cell
tower
being
there
that
have
have
either
died
or
have
cancer
now,
including
my
dad
and
my
mom,
has
had
cancer.
So
I
cannot
speak
enough
about
how
adding
a
huge
cell
tower
could
interrupt
people's
sleep.
It
causes
them
to
have
sleeplessness.
It
causes
them
to
have
memory
loss.
It
also
can
cause
cancer.
It
also
causes
the
neighborhood
to
lose
value
in
their
homes
of
up
to
30
percent.
N
My
I
love
the
East
Side
very
proud
to
come
from
there.
I
went
to
schools
from
the
East
side.
I
know
my
neighbors
have
lived
in
that
neighborhood
way
back
then,
and
the
ones
that
live
there
now
Miss
Owens
used
to
live
on
Rainey
Street
every
day.
You
would
see
her
in
her
garden
working
every
day.
She
was
trimming
bushes.
She
was
doing
her
garden.
N
She
was
planting
new
flowers,
everything
and
all
she
ever
wanted,
and
the
time
that
she
lived
in
her
neighborhood
is
for
someone
from
the
city
to
just
ride
by
and
notice
that
she
planted
this
and
she
made
the
yard
so
beautiful
and
no
one
ever
took
notice.
She
wanted
that
little
plaque
in
her
yard.
That
said
a
parent's
award.
She
never
got
that
she
lived
to
be
108
years
old
and
never
got
that
and
up
till
the
last
couple
years
she
was
always
in
that
Garden.
N
Incident
that
happened
in
East
Burlington
from
Western
Electric
from
those
years
back
and
nothing
has
been
cleaned
up.
There's
no
entity
whether
it
be
local
government,
whether
it
be
State,
whether
it
be
federal
government
which
had
top
secret
weapons
built
there
in
that
space.
All
of
that
seeped
into
the
ground
washed
down.
Storm
gutters
was
poured
out
into
sinks
and
went
to
the
hall
river,
which
content
was
a
water
source
for
over
a
million
people.
G
H
N
K
K
K
K
But
also
cause
a
significant
decrease
in
the
value
of
my
property
I'm,
not
willing
to
sacrifice
either
for
this
project.
My
peace
of
mind
has
been
shattered
just
by
the
thought
of
what
it
would
cost
me
mentally,
financially
and
medically,
all
of
which
seems
not
to
be
a
concern
to
Duke.
What
Duke
is
proposing
is
unconsciously,
there's.
K
Of
information
addressed
in
the
detrimental
effects
on
the
human
body
attributed
to
living
too
close
to
an
electromagnetic
field
and
how
the
disproportionate
number
of
these
towers
have
been
placed
in
neighborhoods
considered
to
be
low
income.
That
being
said,
please
let
it
be
known
that
we
are
fully
invested
in
our
neighborhood,
and
our
goal
is
to
make
and
keep
our
neighbor
at
the
desirable
place
to
be
building.
This
Tower
is
absolutely
nothing
to
enhance
our
neighborhood
or
our
quality
of
life.
K
K
Is
who
on
The
Duke
committee
are
on
the
planning
board
will
welcome
this
in
their
neighborhood,
knowing
that
this
brings
challenges
to
your
health
and
depreciation
of
your
property
and
the
negative
impact
of
the
Aesthetics
of
the
neighborhood
is
a
reality
that
cannot
be
ignored.
Duke
needs
to
find
another
solution
to
their
Tower,
where
it
will
harm
no
one
that
is
ruthless.
K
I'm
Nicholas,
Allen
1033
ring
Street
has
previously
stated
on
this
Echo
and
SWAT
sentiments
with
the
utmost
urgency.
As
a
homeowner
and
Community
member
I'm,
a
Paul
by
the
proposed
plans
to
bring
increased
industrial
zoning
I'm.
Also
a
polled
by
the
lack
of
communication.
My
property
at
1033
Ramey
street
directly
faces
the
blood.
It
was
conveniently
excluded
from
all
the
screenshots
that
were
cut
in
the
presentation
and
I
have
an
unobstructed
view
of
this
Tower
yeah
I
wasn't
notified
even
about
this
meeting.
K
Maybe
I
didn't
meet
the
300
foot
threshold,
yet
this
project
will
affect
my
property
and
my
life
greatly.
We
already
have
Duke
and
Piedmont
trucks
zooming
down
our
street
every
morning
as
I
walk,
my
dog
increased
construction,
not
to
mention
EMF
I,
believe
this
project
will
also
affect
my
health
as
a
sufferer
of
a
serious
chronic
condition
that
renders
my
immune
system
significantly
compromised,
I'm
horrified
at
the
information
available
about
these
projects,
I
have
my
hopes
and
dreams
tied
in
this
house.
I
have
a
fiance
who's
moving
in
later
this
year.
K
We
want
to
start
a
family
here.
We
want
to
do
it
in
a
safe
place.
The
prospect
of
this
construction
makes
all
that
very
dubious,
but
more
than
the
unknowns
of
the
future,
it
makes
the
prospect
of
healing
from
Lyme
disease
in
my
own
home,
even
more
doubtful.
The
prospects
of
immunocompromised
people
who
are
exposed
close
to
EMF
radiation
are
very
poor.
If
Duke
is
not
aware
of
these
dangers,
it's
because
they
choose
not
to
be
I
implore,
you
not
to
side
with
corporate
interests
when
human
lives
and
human
interests
are
directly
at
safe.
K
K
K
O
O
Anyone
else
would
like
to
speak
to
this
matter.
Hi.
My
name
is
Shannon
alvarega
and
we
own
the
property
at
1029,
Washington
Street,
which
is
on
the
corner
of
Washington
and
Maryland
Avenue
and
I.
Just
am
I
allowed
to
ask
questions
for
you
guys
to
ask
or
just
make
comments
like
if
I
have
a
question
that
I
would
like
them
to
answer.
O
You
can
ask
your
question
sure.
Okay,
so
my
question
is
on
the
property
on
the
part
of
the
property
that's
contaminated.
Then
they
do
a
study
to
see
how
much
it
would
cost
them
to
clean
up
that
contaminated
area
and
place
the
tower
further
back,
because
it
seems
like
further
back
where
the
contamination
is.
You
know,
there's
not
a
lot
of
residential
spaces
there.
So
did
they
do
something
that
they
realized?
That
was
going
to
cost
them
a
lot
of
money
to
clean
that
up
to
put
the
tower
there.
O
Go
ahead
and
then
for
their
for
their
evaluation.
That
said,
it
would
not
increase
the
property
values.
Was
that
an
independent
person
or
someone
that
they
paid?
Because
I
spoke
this
afternoon
to
a
realtor
that
said
that
it
definitely
will
decrease
the
property
values
and
I
know
that
they
say
this
thing
is
just
going
to
fall
on
its
halfway
down
or
whatever,
but
has
there
ever
been
one?
That's
Fallen
completely
over,
because
we
are
within
the
300
feet,
radius.
A
J
Did
a
study
unrelated
to
this
related
to
the
contaminated
soils?
It's
not
a
super
fun
site.
It's
a
it's!
A
state
level
site
and
Duke
has
not
done
a
study
on
what
everything
would
have
to
do,
but
that's
mainly
because
there
is
a
established
plan
in
place
to
basically
retain
the
soils
in
place.
So
in
order
to
to
change
that,
they
would
have
to
go
through
a
full
restarting
of
the
entire
site,
with
ddq
related
to
the
state
level
contaminated
site
program.
J
J
So
pretty
much
all
of
this,
then
there's
a
stream
here
and
the
substation
here
and
there's
some
furniture
here
pretty
much
everything
from
here
back.
Okay
is
labeled,
potentially
contaminated
soils
and
study
that
development
was
done
and
what
is
it?
The
radius
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
familiar
with
these
potential
health
concerns.
J
What
is
the
radius
of
those
health
concerns
and
proximity
to
attack?
Do
you
have
any
of
that
information?
It's
not
an
expert.
What
I'd
say
is
that
electromagnetic
fields.
This
comes
up
with
a
variety
of
things,
but
I'll
tell
you.
Is
this
there's
often
a
lot
of
fear
around
electromagnetic
fields?
What
study
after
study
shows
is
is
that
for
the
most
part,
a
lot
of
your
common
household
items
generate
as
much,
if
not
more
electromagnetic
magnetic
exposure
as
a
tower
or
a
or
a
high
voltage
power
line.
J
In
other
words,
the
concern
often
is
that
the
fields
generated
basically
by
electricity
are
somehow
going
to
interfere
with
your
system
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
that.
That
stuff,
there's
I,
think
there's
a
lot
of
debate
about
that
and
I
I
can't
I'm,
not
a
doctor,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
is
that
we
have
studies
which
people
certainly
make
sure
we
bring
to
the
council.
If
we
get
passed
along
tonight
is.
J
The
contaminated
Soul
on
the
property
donate
I
was
actually
Lieutenant.
It's
about
a
500
page
study
done
with
the
approval
of
DEQ
in
which
they
looked
at.
You
know
it's
it's
akin
to
a
super
fun
site.
It's
not
a
super
fun
site
because
it's
state
level,
but
it
is
akin
to
that
level
of
study
in
that
they've
determined
that
there
is
no
there's,
no
contamination
moving
off
the
site,
there's
no
water
contamination,
moving
off
the
side,
I'm.
M
B
M
Starts
out
with
the
initial
craze
and
no
one-site
inspection,
the
subject
property
was
conducted.
Nobody
actually
came
out
to
look
at
this
number
18.
A
detailed
soil
study
was
not
provided
for
this
analysis.
The
subject:
soils
and
subsoil
conditions
are
assumed
to
be
suitable,
based
upon
limited
research,
which
did
not
indicate
evidence
of
excessive
cellular
or
unstable
soils.
No
certification
may
require
the
stability
or
suitability
of
the
soil
or
subsoil
conditions.
J
J
Manufacturing
the
studies,
the
study
looked
at
the
proposal
to
put
a
tower
there:
okay,
okay,
but
did
not
look
at
what
happens
if
you
put
a
tower
elsewhere.
So
the
study
did
look
at
the
the
evaluation
impacts.
I
mean
only
looked
at.
If
the
tower
goes
here
will
impact
evaluation
or
joint
properties,
it
did
look
like
didn't
look
at
what
happens
at
the
tower
gives
us
a
while
in
the
anniversary.
J
M
J
J
At
this
entire
site,
this
used
to
be
a
campground.
This
actually
used
to
be
according
to
the
1929
Mass.
This
was
a
basically
a
trailer
trailer
that
was
this
and
louder.
Please
sorry,
this
used
to
be
so.
This
was
some
level
of
residential,
so
the
this
was
this
property
right
here
is
where
the
whole
gas
manufacturing
plant
was,
and
so
the
plumes
have
largely
been
seen
here.
There
was
analysis.
J
There
are
maps
that
report
and
look
at
these
areas
and
do
not
again
record
it
in
the
accounting
brochure
of
Deeds
office,
and
they
do
not
show
potential
contaminated
soils
in
the
area
of
the
proposed
tab.
So
do
Kaz
has
on
record
information
that
shows
that
there's
not
contaminated
soil
in
that
area.
I,
don't
know
if
they've
done
a
Geotech
report
recently,
they
would
obviously
do
whatever
would
be
necessary
in
relation
permitting,
but
again
I
apologize.
I
was
confused
because
I
thought
you
were
asking
about.
J
They
primarily
folks
that
could
focus
their
study
on
the
historic
site,
but
they
did
look
at
where
the
blooms
are
so.
The
Queens
I
believe
that
well,
I
don't
want
to
represent
exactly
where
the
claims
are,
but
because
I
don't
have
it
right
in
front
of
me.
But
there
is
a
map,
it's
in
your
packet
and
it
shows
where
they
need
information.
Potentially
contaminated
soils
are,
and
it
is
reported
in
a
registered
Deeds
office.
J
N
N
N
N
H
I
H
I
The
next
one
note
number
in
the
upper
left
hand
side
note
number
four:
the
tower
will
allow
for
third-party
carriers
to
co-locate
Once
constructed
so
they're
not
intended
to
to
your
point
they're,
not
anticipating
it,
but
they
would
not
have
to
come
back
here.
It's
my
it's,
my
understanding
that
you
kind
of
have
to
offer
that
it's
kind
of
one
of
those
things.
Now
we
we
have
to
do
with
it.
I
The
radio
station
you
kind
of
have
to
offer
that
or
but
I
was
just
curious
if
they
already
had
somebody
lined
up
for
at
least
so
it's
a
loud
Tom,
okay,
without
further
consideration,
yeah,
it's
right
there,
how
many
Towers
you
put
a
microwave
and
do
whatever
you
did
a
step
on
there.
That's
all
you're
doing.
L
A
C
L
They
had
a
list
of
the
homeowners
and
there
were
postcards
I
know
it
got
out,
because
we
had
one
person
that
showed
up
back
in
2021.
Yes,
okay
and
she
discussed
her,
you
know
displeasure
and
why
she
didn't
want
to
travel,
but
it
was
designed
so
that
we'd
show
the
neighborhood
what
it
was
going
to
look
like
what
the
shelter
would
look
like.
L
H
A
You
will
take
that
back
to
your
Community
Affairs
people
and
to
the
people
that
put
the
commercials
on
TV
about
to
do
power,
and
all
this
and
saying
you
know
it
sounds
good
and
it
looks
good
on
TV,
but
the
people
we've
talked
to.
They
don't
reflect
that.
So,
no
matter
how
the
smoke
goes.
I
hope
that
there's
something
that
you
can
glean
from
this
that
maybe
there
needs
some
work
to
be
done
in
like
Community
relationships.
That's
all
I
got
to
say
anything
else.
L
L
A
E
Anonymous
County
tax
identification
number
138264,
while
the
request
is
consistent
with
future
land
use
map
section,
4,
land
use
of
the
comprehensive
plan
in
that
accounts
for
the
area
to
have
Business
Park
live
industrial
use
is
the
reason
the
requested
zone
is
not
necessary
for
this
location.
It's
actually
reasonable
in
the
public
interest.
In
that,
of
course,
the
reason
is
incompatible
with
existing
languages
in
the
area.
The
current
zones
second
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
concrete.
Would
you
call
for
the
votes
now
your
vote?
If
you
approve.
A
D
A
L
Evening
Mr
chair,
commission
members,
it
has
been
six
months
since
you've
seen
my
happy
face.
I
know,
I,
know,
I,
know
we'll
try
to
try
to
move
through
this
material
fairly
quickly.
I
have
about
12
slides
to
present
to
you,
backed
by
approximately
170
other
slides.
If
questions
come
up
so
we'll
just
move
through
this
and
as
always
just
feel
free
to
ask
questions,
so
this
is
uda0123.
L
This
is
our
11th
around
of
amendments.
We
are
old
hands
at
this
point.
That's
fine,
and
so
this
presentation
is
going
to
focus
on
the
31
areas
of
revision
that
we're
suggesting,
with
this
crop
of
amendments,
a
quick
reminder
to
you.
City
staff
is
always
working
with
applicants,
always
working
with
elected
officials
appointed
officials.
M
L
Both
of
my
apologies-
okay,
we're
gonna
organize
this
by
procedures,
uses
development
standards,
conventional
requirements,
definitions,
not
informative;
okay,
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
a
three-tiered
sort
of
thing,
where
we
cover
sort
of
prosperity
and
detail
and
legal
issues
we're
taking
a
slightly
different
approach
here.
There
are
no
legal
issues
with
respect
to
the
changes
in
this
set
of
provisions,
yet
very,
very
busy
legislative
session
and
I
assure
you
this
year.
You
will
see
me
again
with
numerous
changes
to
these
four
of
us
from
courtesy
of
Jones
Street.
F
L
L
Number
two
staff
has
realized
that
it
is
necessary
for
an
additional
provision
that
requires
applications
that
have
gone
six
months
from
their
pre-application
conference
to
actual
application
filing
to
come
back
in
for
a
new
pre-application
conference,
because
so
much
time
has
changed
or
so
many
revisions
have
been
made
to
the
zoning
ordinance.
Whatever
the
case
may
be,
I
guess
there
are
applicants
out
there
who
conduct
free
apps
and
they
come
in
for
application
filings.
Many
many
months
later.
L
This
gives
staff
discomfort
and
the
suggestion
is
that
we
Institute
a
new
requirement
to
conduct
pre-application
conferences
at
the
end
you
have
six
months
lapse
between
the
individual
pre-application
conference
and
and
the
application
filing
by
the
way
I
saw
that
everything
the
comrade
just
handed
out
copies
of
the
presentation.
Thank
you,
sir.
Every
single
one
of
the
key
changes
that
are
identified
in
the
list
here
are
identified
at
the
back
of
the
of
the
document.
I
think
I
also
saw
you
guys
with
Redline
copies,
so
our
mutual
sort
of
approach
number
three
application
abandonment.
L
There
are,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
applicants
who
file
applications
and
then
disappear
for
whatever
reason,
staff
has
been
faced
with
managing
these
applications
for
six
months
a
year,
whatever
it's
inefficient
and
there's
concerned
about
due
process,
and
so
what
we're
suggesting
to
be
done
is
the
addition
of
a
provision
for
application
abandonment.
If
staff
has
asked
an
applicant
to
produce
information
or
details
associated
with
your
application
in
120
days
lapses.
L
Between
that
request
and
any
sort
of
receipt
of
response
from
an
applicant,
then
staff
will
notify
the
applicant
that
they
have
30
days
to
respond
to
it
to
the
question
or
requests
for
the
application
will
be
abandoned
and
application
fees
are
not
returned.
This
is
a
fairly
standard
kind
of
protocol.
It's
not
in
the
current
regulation,
though
it's
being
proposed
for
addition.
L
Sure
absolutely
what
is
that
is
processed
to
inform
the
city
that
we'd
like
to
continue
it
Beyond
just
to
shoot
an
email
or
call,
or
do
they
have
to
write
back?
What's
the
what's
the
other
side
of
the
day?
Well,
I
think
it
depends
on
what
the
you
know.
What
information
is
is
missing.
I
would
suspect
that
some
applications
probably
have
pieces
that
are
missing
and
stuff
is
waiting
for
them
to
process
the
application
in
other
instances.
L
Perhaps
it
was
just
simply
a
communication
by
staff
to
an
applicant
and
that
communication
was
never
returned,
so
I
mean
you
know
it
could
be
anything.
You
know
really
also
I
wanted
to
mention.
Like
any
decision
in
the
in
the
in
the
you
know,
this
notion
of
an
application
abandonment
can
be
appealed
to
the
board
of
Justice
any
other
decision.
So
if
somebody
feels
like
they
were
wrongly
abandoned
or
their
application
was
was
pulled
from
them
indirectly
that
there
is
recourse
okay,
they
have
a
means
to
to
be
heard,
say
so.
L
If
your
site
plan
undergoes
a
major
modification,
it
gets
approved
and
then
changes
need
to
be
made
and
as
changes
rise
to
the
level
of
a
major
modification
as
identified
on
page
2-63,
then
an
applicant
must
undergo
a
new
pre-application
conference.
And
if
you
had
to
do
a
neighborhood
meeting
like
say
you
were
doing
a
Tower
and
you
have
you
had
to
do
a
neighborhood
meeting.
Then
if
there
was
a
major
modification,
you
would
need
to
reconduct
your
neighborhood
meeting
again.
L
We
have
a
transportation
impact
analysis
requirement
in
the
procedures
that
says,
if
you
cross
certain
thresholds
of
trip,
no
trip
counts,
whether
that's
the
peak
hour
or
total
memberships
per
day.
Then
you
must
prepare
a
transportation
impact
analysis.
The
current!
Please
do
you
have
a
question
finish
yourself.
The
current
code
requires
a
variety
of
applications,
including
conventional
rezonings,
to
conduct
Transportation
impact
analysis.
That
was
wrong.
L
Why
was
it
called
because
we
could
be
approved
as
part
of
the
conditional
resetting,
so
there's
no
way
to
know
so
we
have
since
revised
that
provision
to
remove
Tia
requirement
in
cases
where
uses
can't
be
known
at
the
time
of
the
application.
Now,
that's
not
it.
Let's
say
a
site
plan
comes
through
right
and
the
uses
that
are
contemplated
in
that
site
plan
after
this
rezoning
would
mirror
the
Tia
weapon
that
can
still
be
required.
It's
not
that
we're
just
throwing
up
doesn't
say,
never
mind
we're
not
going
to
require
this.
A
L
Or
more
well,
you're
asking
me
to
perform
like
a
transportation
engineer
which
I
am
not
and
so
I,
while
I
hate
answers
that
are
sort
of
non-answers
in
that
regard,
I'm,
not
sure
and
I
think
it
depends.
Okay,
I
think
that
an
apartment
building
that
is
built
has
a
lower
trip
creation
count
than
an
apartment.
Complex,
that's
built
out
in
the
suburbs.
I
also
think
it
turns
on
who
are
the
residents
of
this
apartment?
Are
they
55?
Are
they
65
plus
and
they're
not
going
to
be
driving
anyway?
L
So
it's
a
it's
a
complicated
question.
You
ask
and
that's
why
we
have
transportation
come
in
and
give
some
information
about
what
are
the
expected
number
of
trips
either
in
the
peacock?
So
if
we
have
this
proposal,
then
we're
going
to
have
to
have
our
transportation
as
a
vector
to
the
means.
So
we
can
answer
these
trip
questions
assumingly.
If
a
transportation
impact
analysis
is
required
for
the
application
the
applicant
needed
to
have
prepared
it
and
submitted
it
with
their
application.
L
If
there
is
not
a
transportation
impact
analysis
included
with
the
application,
then
I
think
it's
safe
to
assume
that
either
it
was
not
required
or
the
uses
that
were
proposed
or
we
don't
know
the
uses
that
were
proposed.
Therefore,
we
couldn't
require
Transportation
impact
analysis,
so
I
think
you
can
safely
assume
that
staff
that
seen
the
application
call
the
applicant
and
said
you
need
to
submit
a
transportation
impact
analysis
is
part
of
your
application.
If
you
don't
see
it,
then
it's
probably
not
required.
L
Well,
that's
what
we
always
give
all
right.
So
I,
just
wonder
if
this
was
make
it
more
a
requirement,
but
we
haven't
changed
the
minimum
requirements.
What
we
did
do
was
take
out
a
standard
that
we
really
couldn't
legally
apply,
which
was
we
don't
know
what
uses
are
going
to
be
you're
going
to
be
building?
So
how
can
how
on
Earth,
can
we
fairly.
A
L
L
D
A
D
Or
something
like
that
now
it's
like
okay,
well
bingo
and
that
will
come
in
when
they
come
back
for
a
technical,
Review
Committee
when
they
come
in
for
the
site.
I
know
you
might
have
a
plan
development
rezoning
where
we
know
the
number
of
units
and
we
will
have
more
than
likely
out
of
transport,
it
would
have
required
the
traffic.
D
K
F
D
L
I
Because,
sometimes
it
happens
if
we
zoning,
when
you've
got
people
in
front
of
you,
it's
usually
the
resulting
stage
and
they
may
not
know
the
uses,
good
questions
and
also,
even
if
somebody
is
applying
for
a
limited
use,
resenting
request
and
they're
saying:
okay
I
want
multi-family
development.
They
can't
commit
to
a
certain
number
of
units
either.
A
F
A
Hit
the
quicksand
they
back
up
real
fast.
So
if
you
kept
somebody
off
guard-
and
they
say-
oh
definitely
like
the
other
one
we're
going
to
put
203
units
in
there-
that's
what
we're
going
to
do.
That's
what
they
did
in
your
life.
Oh
well,
now
you're
going
to
have
to,
but
a
lot
of
times,
they're
smart
enough,
not
to
give
us
a
commitment
on
a
limited
use.
That's
right!.
I
L
You
had
three
minutes
all
right.
Last
on
the
procedural
list
of
changes
we
have
added
accessory
dwelling
units.
Remember
those
are
secondary
homes
that
happen
as
part
of
a
single
family,
detached
dwelling
we're
getting
more
and
more
of
them.
Thankfully,
I
think
it's
good
for
the
community,
but
we
didn't
really
have
a
robust
review
process
so
we're
suggesting
that
the
accessory
dwelling
units
undergo
the
sewing
permit
review
procedure,
okay,
which
is
also
fairly
typical.
L
We
have
a
lot
of
use
changes.
This
time
we
had
19
changes
to
the
use
table
and
to
to
be
fair,
I
think
the
best
thing
to
do
would
be
to
go
through
those
unless
Mr
chair,
commission
members,
you
guys
decide
that
you're
just
going
to
look
at
your
your
paper,
material
I
am
happy
to
walk
you
through
the
six
slides
that
show
the
changes
again.
There
are
19
changes,
I'm
going
to
highlight
some
of
the
others,
but
the
changes
to
the
use
table.
L
L
Well,
we
were,
we
were
going
back
and
forth
about
whether
or
not
we
were
going
to
go
to
the
use
tables,
so
we're
gonna
we're
just
gonna
we're
gonna
power
through
this
as
quickly
as
we
can.
You
see
on
your
screen
the
use
table
and
highlighted
in
bright,
yellow
cells
with
red
ink
or
glutening.
That's
the
case.
Maybe
are
the
changes
that
are
being
suggested
as
part
of
this
round.
First,
among
them
is
inclusion
of
the
Continuing
Care
retirement
community
as
a
potential
conditional
use
in
the
CI
zoning
District.
L
We
have
added
live
work,
dwellings
as
a
principal
use
inside
light
Industrial.
The
origin
for
many
of
these
changes
was
Economic
Development.
There
were
also
some
staff
changes,
we've
added
the
auditorium
use
to
light
industrial.
We
are
suggesting
adding
the
Coliseum
convention,
Conference
Center,
used
to
downtown
to
the
CBD
district
and
as
conditional
use
in
Silva,
adding
cultural
facilities.
Those
would
be
your
libraries,
your
museums,
also
Etc,
the
next
change.
L
L
These
changes,
here's
the
situation.
We
have
a
piece
of
federal
legislation,
a
religious
and
institutionalized
persons,
land
use
act,
Lupa
that
tells
us
that
we
must
treat
fraternal
clubs,
schools
and
churches
identically
with
respect
to
the
zoning
districts
where
they're
permitted
and
the
procedures
that
we
use
to
establish
them.
Okay,
failure
to
do
so
is
failure
is
a
violation
of
one
process
and
you
could
potentially
interfere
with
the
exercise
of
religion.
Okay.
L
So
in
light
of
that,
what
we
have
done
is
conformed
the
uses
and
procedures
for
those
use,
types,
fraternal
clubs
and
lodges
schools
and
churches
to
this
to
us
to
us
a
common
sort
of
organization.
What
you
see
there
is
basically
permitted
across
the
commercial
districts
permitted
the
least
intense
industrial
district
and
requires
a
special
use
permit
for
the
two
most
intense
residential
districts.
L
L
After
a
great
deal
of
discussion,
we
are
suggesting
curtailing
religious
institutions
as
permitted
uses
in
the
lowest
density
residential
districts
and
requiring
special
uses
for
those
religious
institutions
and
the
others
increased
permitting
of
schools
in
the
higher
intensity,
non-residential
districts,
One,
Small,
Change
I
think
we
ended
up
just
conforming
The
Vocational
School
standards
to
everything
else,
which
is
probably
just
a
cleanup
matter.
I,
don't
think
that
it's
that
necessary
vocational
schools
don't
enjoy
the
same
protections
that
regular
schools
do,
which
is
interesting,
because
if
you
had
a
Divinity
School
is
that
a
vocational
school?
L
E
D
Adult
motels
and
many
many
others
are
kind
of
addressed
under
the
state's
rubric
for
adult
use,
so
that
please
I
have
the
definition
of
religious
institutions.
I
just
wanted
to
indicate
that
it's
a
structure
of
place
in
which
worship,
ceremonies,
rituals
and
education
are
held
together
with
its
accessory
buildings
and
uses,
including
buildings
used
for
educational
recreational
activities.
Operating
maintaining
control
under
the
under
the
direction
of
a
religious
group,
so
it'll
be
in
the
sense
for
a
principal
use
of
a
structure
versus
an
accessory
using
a
home
right.
D
L
G
L
A
A
So
on
this,
in
the
back
of
our
tactic,
we
have
the
use
tables
to
repeat
it
and,
and
they
show
the
ability
books
for
Cabaret
and
hotel
they're
all
prohibited,
that's
right
and
we
are
suggesting
removing
them
yeah,
oh
so
this
is
this.
Is
this
is
going
to
hurt,
and
this
has
been
a
change.
Yeah
try
to
restrict
it.
I
got
okay,
I
hit
it
backwards.
I
thought
you
thought
we
were
going
to
open
up
the
gates
of
hell.
Didn't
you
yeah
I
thought
it
was
coming
down
the
road
all
right.
Okay,
all.
L
Right,
pressing
on
continuing
through,
we
currently
allow
campgrounds
in
GB
after
a
lot
of
discussion.
I
don't
have
any
campgrounds
in
GV.
We're
not
sure
that
any
campgrounds
in
GB
could
meet
the
minimum
dimensional
sizes
for
the
use
anyway,
so
we've
removed
it
as
a
permitted
use.
You
can
still
do
it
as
a
PD
or
a
ped.
You
campers
in
Burlington.
L
My
heart
goes
out
to
you,
the
catering
establishments,
just
a
couple
of
tweaks
there
allowing
that
in
the
neighborhood
business,
allowing
it
in
the
mixed
use,
making
it
a
little
bit
easier
to
do
in
the
mixtures
golf
driving
range.
This
is
another
soul-searching
experience
for
us.
We
ultimately
made
the
decision
similar
to
the
campground.
There
are
no
Lots,
there
are
no
Camp.
There
aren't
golf
driving
ranges
in
the
city
NGB
today
and
there's
inadequate
space
for
such
a
thing
to
take
place.
L
L
L
L
Pool
hall
and
recreational
vehicle
Parks
from
Li,
okay,
adding
printing,
also
removing
RV
Parks
from
GB,
so
can
I
do
an
RV
Park
in
in
Burlington.
The
answer
is
yes,
as
long
as
you
are
a
PD
or
ped
self-service
storage,
external
access-
this
is
the
low-rise
building,
surrounded
by
a
gate.
This
is
not
a
multi-story
shared
entrance
buildings
that
we're
seeing
today.
L
So
we
do
address
both
types.
We're
suggesting
the
external
access
be
removed
as
a
permitted
use
in
GB.
Okay
is
it
is
a
conditional
use
in
CV,
so
you
can
still
have
such
a
use
in
a
commercial
area.
It
just
needs
to
be
handled
through
the
conditional
process.
Okay,
can
I
ask
why
the
removal
from
TV
for
that
particular.
L
M
I
Other
questions
we
did
spend
a
great
deal
of
time
discussing
this
I.
Think
we've
discussed
this
on
three
different
occasions:
r
d,
research
and
development
activities
being
added
in
downtown
and
in
the
heavy
industrial
district
and
removal
of
truck
and
Freight
terminals
in
G,
Ang,
so
and
I'll
just
go
back
to
the
self
storage
for
one.
Second,
we
are
seeing
applications
that
involve
both
internal
and
external
combined,
so
we
would
be
classifying
whatever
is
the
predominant.
G
L
L
L
L
L
I
will
confess
to
you
that
the
planting
gods
did
not
bless
me
with
a
deep
understanding
of
Automotive,
Towing
and
storage
Lots.
This
use
has
been
amended
before
and
has
continued
to
be
a
challenge
for
staff.
Here
in
Burlington,
after
considerable
discussion,
we
made
the
revisions
that
you
see
on
pages
on
page
4-42,
I'll
bring
it
up
on
the
screen.
L
Thank
you,
so
three
big
changes.
First,
we
had
a
cap
on
the
number
of
vehicles
at
50..
We
increased
it
to
a
hundred.
The
next
big
change
is
that
we
had
a
maximum
a
minimum
size
rather
of
5
000
square
feet.
The
third
sort
of
change-
that's
big,
is
the
the
addition
of
new
screening
requirements
for
these
kinds
of
uses,
and
so
it's
the
screening
requirements
that
really
drive
the
other
changes
and
so
to
make
it
as
simple
as
I
can.
L
The
thinking
is
that
if
we
screen
it
and
it's
opaque-
and
you
cannot
see
it
because
it's
behind
this
opaque
screen,
then
how
many
vehicles
you
have
does
not
matter
and
I.
Think
there's
that's
a
fair
sort
of
assessment
of
it,
and
so
does
it
have
to
be
screened
so
that
nobody
can
see
it.
It
must
be
screened
so
that
no
one
can
see
it.
So
if
there's
a
div
in
the
road
or
if
you
go
up
a
hill,
you
can't
look
back.
You
know
it's
fair.
L
Our
development
regulations
contemplate
the
world
as
a
flat
homogeneous
plane
and
did
you
to
do
otherwise
would
be
practically
impossible.
So
yes,
there
are
instances
where
you
know
if
the
elevation
of
the
road
bed
is
significantly
higher
than
the
adjacent
lot
you
will
be
able
to
see
into,
but
standing
at
the
edge
of
the
property.
Looking
in,
you
should
not
be
able
to
see
through
the
fence.
Okay,.
M
Question
on
the
number
of
cars-
yes
and
I'm,
saying
this
as
a
what
I
call
a
reformed
car
car
added,
okay,
lack
of
better
terms.
Most
people
have
a
problem
with
stray
dogs.
I
have
a
problem
with
straight
trucks,
sure
sure
what
I
think
you'll
find
with
this
is.
You
will
see
guys
who
are
operating
a
Towing
and
storage
facility,
but
we're
actually
doing
basically
part
transactions
on
cars,
where
they'll
cycle
out
their
inventory
and
function
as
a
junkyard
with
75
to
100
Vehicles.
F
M
Cycle
out,
there
inventory
just
fast
enough
that
nobody
in
the
city
picks
it
up
sure
and
it's
actually
really
common
in
the
car
Community
for
specific
Towing
and
storage.
Lots
to
do
so.
They'll
pick
up
a
car
a
little
part
out
as
many
usable
Parts
as
they
can
something
valuable
something
class
people
are
looking
for
those
types
of
hard
for
that
aren't
made
anymore
and
that
car
will
sit
there
for
anywhere
from
one
to
five
years
before
it's
then
carted
off
to
an
actual
scrap
yard
right.
L
Yeah
I
don't
know
if
it
really
matters,
but
that's
what
I've
seen
you
know
it's.
It's
very
interesting
because
I
think
that
the
the
the
difficulty
of
enforcing
some
of
the
standards
that
we
are
you
we
have
on
the
books
today
for
storage
of
vehicles.
Screening
of
vehicle
storage
areas
is
what's
driving
some
of
these
changes
and,
to
be
honest
with
you
as
a
practical
matter,
after
a
lot
of
discussion,
we
came
to
the
realization
that
it
was
simpler
for
us
to
Simply
hide
it.
A
That
it
was
for
us
to
go,
but
how
long
has
this
truck
been
here?
I
was
here
last
week
you
know
and
I
see,
there's
a
new
truck
there.
Oh
and
I've
got
462
other
automotive
and
towing
storage
uses
to
hit
today
on
and
count
their
vehicles.
That's
what
they're
hoping
they'll
say!
Well,
I
I
mean
you
know
as
a
practical
matter
of
being
at
a
point,
then
it's
easier
to
count
50
than
it
is
to
count
100.
and
to
limit
the
number
instead
of
expanding.
A
The
number
seems
to
be
more
helpful
in
this
situation
than
it
is
to
say,
well
Alpha
zones.
As
long
as
it's
blocked,
we
don't
care.
I'm
saying
you
know,
50
is
is
easier
to
manage
than
a
hundred,
but
I
was
just
curious
if
there
was
a
reason
why
the
increase
was
was
placed
in
here,
because
I
kind
of
agree
with
Charles
in
the
situation
like
this,
that
you
know,
if
you
allow
them
a
hundred,
then
they've
got
100
part
out.
A
If
you
allow
them
only
50,
they
only
got
50
to
part
out
and
if
you
go
in
there
and
you
count,
you
count
more
than
50
without
calling
but
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
bad
thing.
It
actually
is
the
world
and
I
understand
that
about
them.
For
what
we're
trying
to
to
limit
you
know
as
far
as
junk
yards
per
se,
but
I
I
know
what
you're
saying,
because
I've
parted
out
things
all
up
and
down
sure
Paul
River.
L
A
L
L
Okay,
let's
talk
about
outdoor
storage,
a
a
fairly
wide
range
of
changes
here
we
I'm
just
going
to
go
to
these
Pages,
it's
faster
to
just
do
it
that
way
they
span
across
a
variety
of
different
aspects.
First,
is
the
principal
use
provisions?
Okay,
so
what
we've
done
is
remove
minimum
setback
requirements
for
outdoor
storage,
because
it
was
impossible
for
our
enforcement
staff
to
apply
the
standards
on
a
day-by-day
basis,
so
in
favor
of
or
as
an
alternative
to
the
minimum
setbacks.
L
L
L
If
you
have
an
outdoor
storage
area
that
abuts
a
street
right
away
a
park
or
a
Greenway,
then
you
will
screen
that
outdoor
storage
with
a
type
a
perimeter
buffer
with
a
fully
impact
fencer
wall
of
the
maximum
height,
that's
permitted
in
the
zoning
District,
where
it's
located
and
the
defensive
wall
is
going
to
be
between
the
plants
and
the
storage.
So
you
don't
get
to
put
the
plants
inside
the
fence
the
plants
on
the
outside
of
the
fence,
where
people
can
see
them
further.
L
If
you
have
other
buffering
requirements,
you
have
perimeter
buffer
or
parking
lot
landscaping
or
whatever
it
is.
You
still
got
to
put
that
Landscaping
in
to
okay,
so
it's
what's
required
for
perimeters
or
parking
lots
or
whatever
Plus
what
you
got
to
have
for
a
type
A
Plus,
defense,
okay,
but
that's
only
when
you're
adjacent
to
I'm,
sorry
about
a
street
public
park
or
Greenway.
Finally,
if
you're
going
to
have
outdoor
storage,
it
needs
to
be
paved
or
surfaced
with
gravel,
okay,
and
so
like
the
vehicle
Towing
issue.
L
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
focusing
on
screening
this
use
type
from
View
and
remove
some
of
the
challenges
that
our
enforcement
folks
are
having
in
terms
of
measuring
setbacks
and
determining
where
stuff
can
be
on
a
lot
based
on
the
the
zoning
District
Dimension
requirements.
Okay,
so
no
minimum
setbacks,
you
can't
do
any
buffers.
You've
got
to
have
a
type
A
when
you're
a
budding
a
right-of-way.
It's
got
to
be
paid
for
surface
and
we
also
have
outdoor
storage
as
an
accessory
use.
L
L
L
We
increased
fence
Heights
in
the
non-residential
districts
in
recognition
of
the
changes
that
we
made
for
outdoor
storage,
because
people
weren't
going
to
use
the
forefoot
anymore.
They
would
simply
say:
oh
well,
I've
got
storage
here,
so
I've
got
to
have
a
system
you're,
absolutely
right,
so
we've
increased
fence,
Heights
and
non-residential
Zoning
districts
between
front
facades
and
building
setback,
lines
and
rights
of
way
to
six
feet.
Okay,
we
are
also
recognizing
outdoor
storage.
L
If
you
look
on
the
lower
left
side,
there's
this
gray
sort
of
pattern:
that's
outdoor
storage
in
a
oinb
sort
of
a
commercial
zoning
district
and
the
colors
that
show
the
heights
of
the
fence.
That's
permitted
Okay.
So
we've
made
these
changes
to
outdoor
storage
to
make
better
screening.
We've
we've
gone
in
and
adjusted
the
fence
Heights
to
support
the
changes
for
outdoor
storage
screening
that
we're
calling
for
and
we've
done,
one
more
thing,
which
is:
we've
adjusted
the
screening
requirements.
Okay,
so
on
a
site
you
have
to
screen
electrical
equipment.
L
L
We
have
clarified
our
fence
screening
Provisions
by
recognizing,
though
level
three
is
a
semio
chain
link
fence
and
if
you've
added
this
new
thing
called
a
level
four,
a
chain
link
fence,
that's
fully
opaque,
including
the
gates
and
so
new
standards
for
the
level
four
screen,
that's
required
for
things
like
Automotive,
storage,
okay,
so
here
is
where
the
proof
is
in
the
pudding
in
terms
of
that
opacity,
stuff
or
not,
being
able
to
see
it.
Okay.
L
Lastly,
we
added
more
clarity
about
the
kinds
of
outer
stores
that
are
out
there
and
the
levels
of
screening
that
are
associated
with
us,
so
we've
bumped
up
the
standards
for
wrecked
Vehicles,
unlicensed
Vehicles
Etc
and
kept
the
other
screening
standards
in
place
for
outdoor
storage
equipment
vehicles
that
are
licensed.
But,
okay,
so
suffice
it
to
say:
we've
taken
a
very
comprehensive
look
at
outdoor
storage,
Automotive,
Towing
and
vehicle
storage
kinds
of
uses
and
we've
gone
in
the
direction
of
more
screening
and
fewer
requirements
inside
the
site
in
favor
of
an
additional
screening.
A
L
L
D
A
Code
Enforcement
issue
when
we're
where
our
officers
out
there
asking
questions
about
cars
and
are
they
operational,
so
yeah
doesn't
have
a
tag
on
it
yeah.
There
are
definitely
questions
that
they
have
and
they're
they're
having
conversation
problems.
They
have
with
cookie
junk
vehicles
on
the
property
behind
behind
the
property
beyond
the
house
or
removal.
L
L
L
L
So
tiny
homes
we
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
a
tiny
hunt
would
be
an
Adu
and
that
you
could
park
your
car
in
the
driveway
of
a
tiny
home
we've
added
some
additional
Provisions
for
swimming
pools,
clarification
about
requirements
for
fencing,
whether
you're
in
ground
or
above
ground
and
walkable
lids
for
hot
tubs.
It's
a
basic
State,
Building,
Code
stuff
that
we
just
rolled
into
the
ordinance
temporary
real
estate
isn't
is
a
temporary
use.
We
have
on
the
books
now
and
staff
thought
gee.
L
Wouldn't
it
be
better
if
we
just
had
temporary
office
period
and
it
didn't
have
to
be
a
real
estate
office.
So
we
converted
this
temporary
real
estate
office
to
just
temporary
office.
Same
kinds
of
standards.
I've
talked
already
about
the
fences
we
increased,
the
maximum
height
in
the
non-residential
districts
to
recognize
the
outdoor
storage.
We
change
the
screening.
One
thing
I
didn't
talk
about
was
our
current
fence
requirements
for
the
finished
side
to
be
out
so
that
that
is
visible
to
the
public.
L
L
L
L
A
Yeah,
all
right,
Direction,
okay,
all
right,
very
good.
Now,
Mr
Black,
you
you
had
questions
about.
We
clarified
the
setbacks
for
accessory
structures
on
page
4-61
yeah,
all
I
was
looking
down
at
the
department
of
the
recreational
vehicle.
Heavy
trailer,
heavy
trailer
and
I
was
looking.
I
noticed
that
we
defined
heavy
truck
in
the
residential
is
ten
thousand
pounds
of
more
gross
vehicle,
that's
right
or
more
than
two
axes.
Okay,
and
so
is
that
definition
come
here,
because
a
truck
tractor
by
this
definition
of
truck
tractor
could
be
parked
there.
A
More
oh
I'm,
aware
of
that
I
was
just
sitting
there.
Thinking
about
I
pulled
my
Freightliner
because
it's
a
truck
tractor,
it's
on
a
heavy
truck.
By
definition.
It's
a
truck
tractor.
It's
just
fine
to
carry
a
semi
trailer,
not
a
trailer
and
so
grocery.
Does
it
have
the
two
axles
or
three
axles.
Generally,
they
have
two
axles.
Two
axles,
yes,
I
mean
you
see
them
pull
I
mean
I'm.
Talking
about
a
big
rig.
Okay,
it's
a
truck
tractor.
It's
not
a
heavy
truck!
A
It's
it's
defined
as
a
truck
tractor
because
it
pulls
a
semi
trailer
yeah
on
a
fifth
wheel,
coupling
device.
Some
people
would
call
it
a
mob
tail.
Well,
that
would
be
a
bobtail
without
the
trailer
and
that's
exactly
what
we're
doing.
Don't
those
have
three
axles?
Okay,
well,
most
of
them
do
them
do
all
right.
You're
talking
about
total
axle
or
dry
vac,
totally
God
I,
don't
know
as
your
comfort
tunnel
axle's
three.
If
you're
talking
Drive
axles,
it
can
be
one
or
two
I
think
that
we
were
saying
axles,
as
in
all
I.
A
Just
wanted
to
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
definition
here
is
10
000
plus
then
we're
good
to
go,
but
I
just
did
when
we
get
to
my
caught
up
and
say
well,
this
isn't
a
heavy
truck.
This
is
a
this
is
a
semi
truck,
or
this
is
what
we
call
a
truck
tractor.
So
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
fall
in
this
definition,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
use
the
10
000
plus
I'm
good.
We
do
we
do
that's.
L
L
We
clarified
the
rules
regarding
setback
encroachments.
You
can
see
on
page
4-61.
We
had
all
of
these
different
setback,
rules,
Here,
There
and
Everywhere,
and
what
we
did
was
just
say
this
is
too
complicated.
Let's
simplify
this
accessory
structures
can
be
five
feet
from
a
lot
line
unless
they're
taller
than
10
feet,
I'm
sorry
taller
than
15
feet,
and
then
they
have
to
be
10
feet
from
the
wildfire.
L
If
you
want
to
be
closer
to
the
lot
line,
you
may
be
able
to
based
on
what
the
what's
allowed
in
the
allowable
encroachment
stable
in
section
8.3.
So
it's
five
or
it's
ten
or
it's
the
table.
You
go
figure
it
out
we're
getting
there
man,
we
really
are
trying
to
just
get
down
to
it.
It's
this
or
this
or
this
okay.
L
We
have
had
a
lot
of
debate
during
TRC
meetings
about
the
density
requirements
and
the
maximum
lot
sizes,
and
so
to
address
this
challenge,
we
have
added
some
language
to
Pages,
8,
13
and
8
14
that
pertains
to
this
concept
that
we're
calling
allowable
residential
density,
an
allowable
residential
density,
is
just
this.
It's
the
lesser
of
the
maximum
density.
That's
allowed
to
you
in.
C
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Allowable
residential
density,
we
set
down
how
you
calculate
the
maximum
residential
density
for
hypothetical
site.
67
000
square
foot;
side,
amdr,
okay,
so
we
so.
We
know
that
it's
1.53
Acres,
the
zoning
District
maximum
is
4.85
units
per
acre
1.53
times
4.85
equals
7.42.
That's
how
many
units
you
could
have
for
density.
We
round
up.
So
it's
8
units,
an
acre,
that's
what
you
get
on
a
67
000
square
foot
site
in
ndr;
okay,
great
eight
units
permit
that
number
to
memory.
L
Now,
let's
talk
about
how
we
calculate
the
maximum
number
of
lots
and,
let's
focus
specifically
on
example,
two
67
000
square
foot
site
in
MDR
district
for
single
family
attached
dwellings;
same
lot,
67
000
square
feet,
okay
in
MDR,
for
that
use
type.
My
minimum
lot
area
is
9
000
square
feet
to
start
plus
1
600
for
each
unit.
L
Okay,
so
if
I
divide
or
if
I
take
67
000
square
feet
subtract
the
first
nine
thousand
and
divide
that
by
1600
what
do
I
get
I
get
36
right,
but
I
only
get
eight
units,
I,
don't
get
36
units
I
get
eight,
because
that's
the
Lesser
number.
Okay
and
that's
how
this
is
all
supposed
to
work.
Okay-
and
these
examples,
I
hope,
make
that
a
little
bit
more
clear.
L
Yeah
well,
I
think
that
people
I
think
that
they're,
you
know
there's
been
uncertainty
on
the
part
of
applicants
coming
in
and
thinking
that
they
were
going
to
be
able
to
have
12,
duplexes
or
14.
You
know
Triplex
units
when
in
fact,
no
you
know
the
actual
lot
size
means
you
can
have
two,
but
but
the
density,
the
density.
No,
it's
the
lesser
of
the
two
glad
you
guys
are
messing
with
it.
L
L
Certain
kinds
of
subdivisions
are
Exempted
or
they're,
not
subject
to
Landscaping
requirements.
That's
state
law
and
we're
just
clarifying
that
on
page
5-31,
University
of
divisions,
gravel
even
decorative
gravel,
as
beautiful
as
it
may
be,
is
not
permitted
as
a
ground
cover
in
streetscape
or
perimeter.
Landscape
offers.
Okay,
if
you
want
to
have
you
need
to
have
ground
cover,
you
can
have
mulch,
you
can
have
living
plants
that
you
may
not
have
traveled,
okay,
I'm
assuming
they'll
be
allowed
to
make
or
specific
drainage.
L
G
We're
very
proud
of
the
applicability
standards
for
the
commercial
Industries
design
standards.
This
has
caused
incredible
consternation
on
the
part
of
Staff
and
applicants.
When
do
we
apply
commercial
design
standards
to
development?
That
is
not
a
new
building.
It's
a
an
existing
building
with
an
addition.
How
does
this
work
tell
us
it's
it's
confusing.
L
L
So
this
is
how
it
works.
Okay-
and
this
is
the
same
for
mixed-use
design
standards.
So
commercial
excuses
is
the
same
table
if
you
were
doing
a
new
principal
structure
on
a
vacant
site
that
is
commercial
you're,
going
to
comply
with
the
design
standards
if
you're
constructing
a
new
principal
structure
following
the
removal
of
an
existing
principle
structure,
you're
going
to
comply
with
the
design
standards,
if
you're
doing
an
additional
expansion
to
an
existing
principle
structure
that
already
had
to
comply
with
the
design
standards.
L
L
Okay,
you
do
not
have
to
do
them
if
you're
doing
an
interior
or
exterior
outfit
on
an
existing
principle
structure
with
no
additional
floor
space
before
the
design
Provisions
were
drafted,
you
are
exempt.
You
do
not
have
to
do
those
if
you
are
doing
a
site.
Improvement
I'm
not
changing
my
building
at
all,
but
I'm,
adding
parking
or
I'm
adding
something
else.
You
are
exempt.
Okay,
you're
doing
an
accessory
structure.
You're
exempt
now
you
just
have
to
be
complementary.
L
Finally,
what's
an
addition?
What
does
that
mean
if
I'm
touching,
if
I'm
not
touching,
how
much
do
I
have
to
touch
to
be
an
addition?
So
we
sat
down
at
the
bottom
of
the
table.
Activity
resulting
in
the
additional
new
floor
area
shall
be
Exempted
from
these
standards.
If
you're,
physically
touching
you're,
enclosed
by
walls
of
a
roof,
you
have
conditioned
space
and
I
can
have
direct
access
from
the
existing
structure
and
the
addition.
So,
if
you
don't
meet
those
standards,
a
lot
attached
and
you
have
to
comply,
you
have
to
wait
on
four
years.
L
L
It's
awful,
but
they
do
it.
So
these
are
the
standards.
One
more
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
to
you.
We
are
suggesting
that
some
industrial
uses
are
some
industrial
uses
are
actually
allowed
in
the
commercial
zoning
districts.
The
way
we've
the
way
we
built
the
commercial
design
standards
they're
exempt
from
design
Provisions.
So
to
address
that
we
have
added
six
six
uses
six
industrial
uses
down
at
the
bottom
of
the
page.
If
you're
going
to
do
one
of
these
industrial
uses
in
a
commercial
District.
L
L
More
clarity
for
Paving
spaces
in
your
customer
entrances,
you
can
have
stuff,
that's
different
texture,
different
color
different
pattern.
We're
going
to
allow
it
we're
encouraging
more
use
of
sustainable
design
options
Okay.
So
we've
increased
the
number
of
units
per
acre
that
you
can
get
for
provision
of
sustainable
design
options.
We
have
allowed
the
administrative
adjustment
to
be
used
to
embrace
reductions
and
setbacks
to
accommodate
the
addition
of
more
units
in
receipt
for
inclusion
of
sustainable
design
options.
So
we
are
trying
very
hard
to
encourage
these
things.
L
L
Embs,
electric
electric
message
boards,
the
the
staff-
has
been
besieged
for
many
years
now
from
religious
institutions,
schools
and
fraternal
clubs
to
be
able
to
have
electronic
message
boards.
We
have
finally
buckled
and
we
are
suggesting
that
they
be
permitted
to
take
place
for
those
uses
and
that
all
of
a
ground
sign
for
those
uses
can
be
utilized
as
EMB
sign-based
area.
L
L
We've
added
some
clarifications
that
allow
single-family
detached
structures
to
have
additions
and
it's
when
they're,
located
in
districts
where
they're
not
permitted
and
then.
Finally,
when
you've
got
a
non-conforming
structure,
that's
going
to
have
an
expansion.
You
may
expand
it
as
long
as
you
know
a
horse
in
the
non
foreign.
L
L
The
reason
that
that
change
proposed
for
the
embs
is
because
schools
and
religious
institutions
very
much
want
electronic
message
boards
and
they
were
not
allowed
in
the
residential
districts
where
schools
and
churches
are
located,
and
this
will
allow
me
and
me
of
what
size
well
it'll
be.
It
can
be
up
to
32
square
feet
in
size.