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Planning and Zoning Commission August 28, 2023
A
Please
note
that
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
for
tonight's
public
comments
and
we
had
a
note
up
there
to
address
the
commission.
Please
wait
until
you've
called
on
by
the
chair
address.
The
commission
from
the
podium
comments
are
limited
to
a
maximum
of
three
minutes.
Anyone
who
speaks
must
give
their
name
and
their
address
for
the
record
as
a
reminder
of
the
plans.
Any
commission
is
an
Advisory
Board.
It
makes
recommendations
to
the
city
council
and
addition
in
case
of
a
tie
vote.
A
B
B
A
You
members,
who
have
received
your
minutes
if
you
found
that
you
have
a
conflict
of
interest.
Please
note
it
to
us
at
the
appropriate
time.
Oh
okay
for
Styler
I've
been
taken
care
of
now.
We'll
approve
the
minutes.
The
plans
then
commission
meeting
held
on
July
24th,
do
I
hear
a
motion
approve.
There's.
A
Been
properly
moved
in
second,
any
questions,
any
comments,
all
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed.
Do
we
need
a
roll
call
for
that
Isaac
said.
Thank
you
very
good.
Let's
go
on
to
item
number
three
on
rezoning,
23004,
Mr,
Eric,
roosk
I
think
to
present
a
request
to
rezone
property
from
conditional
business
cb947
to
do
what
I'm
sorry,
no,
this
is.
Oh
okay.
I
have
to
look
good,
not
a
problem.
A
Residential
Mr
MDR
to
General
business,
limited
use.
Gblu
property
is
located
on
the
easterly
side
of
the
intersection
of
Maple
Avenue
Anthony
Road
addressed
as
2632
Maple
Avenue,
consisting
of
Alamance
County
tax
ID
number
132508.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
online,
Mr,
Black
I?
Think
you
read
the.
A
D
A
A
F
Has
all
Drive
good
I
represent
callers
of
Apex
I
own
a
business
there,
Mike
Weiland
my
broker
and
I
are
trying
to
purchase
the
land
to
move
our
location
or
expand
our
location
and
open
up
another
Culver's
franchising
in
the
City
of
Burlington,
with
that,
the
condition
right
now
is
zoned
for
a
specific
use
for
a
needle
grocery
store
who
owns
the
property.
We
are
trying
to
purchase
for
them
and
we
are
trying
to
rezone
it
to
allow
the
use
for
our
Standalone,
drive-through,
restaurant
and
Park
so
and
I'll
speak.
G
F
D
F
A
B
B
So
staff
just
lets
them
know
that
the
meetings
occurring
tonight
and
that
the
request
is
a
general
business,
limited
yeast,
specifically
staff
recommendation
so
and
looking
at
this
item,
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
option
option
one.
It's
consistent
with
an
economics
map.
We've
been
working
with
the
applicant
to
to
get
their
uses
kind
of
tailored
down
more
specific
to
this
property
of
the
location.
The
staff
is
recommending
approval
once
again,
I'll
ask
commission:
does
anyone
have
a
question
their
own
business.
I
J
I
F
Conversations
that
Mike
said
and
myself
with
the
legal
organization
they
have
zero
interest
in
pursuing
their
continuance
of
building
a
legal
grocery
store
at
that
property.
They
want
to
remove
I,
don't
know
if
we
don't
buy
it.
I
mean
we're
going
to
hopefully
through
this
through
this
community.
I
want
to
I'm,
fully,
invest
it
fully
in,
but
needle
has
zero
interest
in
continuing
their
development.
They
would
like
to
remove
the
parcel
themselves
as
well
from
my
understanding.
G
D
F
F
Where
that
you
can
kind
of
see
where
the
easement
kind
of
is
already
cut
about
right
up,
then
you'd
come
in
there
and
I
drive
through
a
Grappler
on
the
front,
all
right
where
the
University
Drive
is
and
then
right
on
the
back
up
about
where
that
pin
kind
of
is
where
it
says
the
PID
right.
There
would
be
like
the
end
of
our
actual
building
and
then
the
rest
of
it
was
all
parking
lot.
I
When
the
University
Drive
was
first
putting
in
you
know,
at
the
time
I
asked
it
was
on
the
apartment.
That
said,
they
were
recording
very
few
cuts
into
the
current
because
it
was
supposed
to
be
at
Parkway
and
it's
still
it's
sort
of
attractive
because
it
doesn't
look
like
at
the
house
in
the
Middle
Road.
But
it's
the
plan
to
pick
it
up
in
the
world,
I
mean
it's
all
going.
B
So
at
that
times
the
site
claim
will
be
brought
forth
to
staff
and
we'll
review
to
the
technical
Review
Committee.
But
as
far
as
my
understanding
is
there's
not
enough
attempt
to
have
additional
driveway
approaches
onto
University
or
Rover
other
than
what's
already
existing
right
now
and
our
supply
home
is
consistent
and
their
site
plans
will
be
bringing
in
this.
You
know
kind
of
is
going
to
be
okay,
copacetic
with
what's
already
there
and
what's
coming
up
in
terms
of
driveway
access.
I
Recommendation,
and
so
we
get
it
piecemeal,
but
I'm
wondering
what
the
big
picture
is
for
University
Drive.
Is
it
going
to
be
I
mean
it's
still
sort
of
attractive
when
Target
there
was
not
supposed
to
be
anything
until
people
wanted
to
Target
and
that
seemed
to
have
broken
the
barrier,
and
now
it's
just
like
so
important.
We've
been
wondering.
If
that
plan
is
it
going
to
be?
What
would
like
helping
development?
Is
it
you're
saying
is
already
in
Cut
there
there's
a
driveway
for
this
particular
parcel.
B
In
terms
of
the
larger
scope
of
cuts,
I
I
wouldn't
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
could
kind
of
compare
University
Drive
necessarily
to
how
familiar
in
that
regards
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
different
property
ownership
along
custom.
Wheel
drive
is
a
bit
different
in
terms
of
University.
Universities
got
bigger,
Parcels,
more
work,
we're
working
with
other
Developers
for
the
property
adjacent
to
this.
Just
to
the
that
would
be
the
East,
and
so
there's
discussions
about
some
additional.
B
You
know
traffic
Transportation
impact
analysis,
access
the
work
of
ncdot
in
our
transportation
department
to
make
sure
that
connections
to
the
university
are
made
of
the
most
reasonably
logical
manner,
but
I,
wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
be
able
to
tell
you
there's
no
other
access
points
being
put
there,
but
I
will
say
that
you're,
probably
not
going
to
have
this
number.
The
number
that
you
find
on
North,
Church
or
along
the
church
and
also
help
the
bill
just
because
of
the
nature
of
the
parcel
configuration
how
how
it
abundance
to
University
Drive.
I
You
say
it's
consistent,
so
that
sounds
to
me,
like
you,
have
a
game
plan
and
a
game
plan
is
if
somebody
comes
and
they
they
want
it,
and
there
is
no
economic
reason,
but
the
Aesthetics
involved
in
it
I
mean
what
I
remember
being
at
a
city.
Council
meeting
and
mayor
wall
said
he
would
never
tell
a
friend
to
visit
him
unless
they
would
have
a
diversity,
because
it
was
the
only
attractive
entrance
into
the
city
in.
I
And
I
feel
like
it's
getting
cut
down
and
there
have
been
fatalities.
You
know
at
the
intersection
there
and
at
the
University
in
South,
Church
Street
and
it
just
seems,
like
you
know,
little
by
little.
It's
getting
beaten
away,
and
that
is
consistently
you
know,
but
when
we
do
it
one
at
a
time,
we
don't
notice
it
as
much
so
I'm
trying
to
get
an
idea.
What
the
big
picture
is,
but
it's
other
good
creatures.
B
B
So
it's
something
just
Burlington
is
a
growing
city
or
our
transportation
department
is
Keen
on
making
sure
that
our
traffic
is
is
as
best
well
managed,
they're
always
working
with
ncdot,
and
we
review
these
on
a
daily
basis,
weekly
basis
with
our
own
engineering
department.
So
we're
we're
aware
of
the
traffic
issues
and
transportation
overall
development
along
this
Corridor,
though
it
is
something
that's
likely
going
to
be
changing
over
the
next
coming
years
and
we're
planning
for
that.
B
I
B
Part
of
this
project,
the
the
site-
that's
built
right
now
they
one
of
the
requirements
in
their
in
their
conditional
business,
was
to
install
that
multi-use
platform.
University
Drive,
that's
already
been
installed,
so
that
path
I
want
to
say,
goes
further.
North
and
I
want
to
say
that
more
towards
the
intersection
of
the
church
and
the
university
there
is
stands
for.
Councils
approve
the
set
of
plans
there.
B
I
want
to
say
that
that
path
might
be
along
there,
but
I'm
going
to
get
out
of
my
wings,
but
there's
an
idea
to
have
that
path:
connect
further
north,
but
that
when
we
approach
things
it
is
parcel
specific.
So
when
we
look
at
this
property,
we
looked
at
it
with
nature
of
the
entire
site
plan
that
was
already
approved
by
Council,
and
one
of
those
requirements
was
that
multi-use
path,
and
that
was
installed.
B
So
the
beautification
of
University
driving
this
area
is
going
to
be,
has
already
been
it's
kind
of
a
work
in
progress
since
the
resulting
is
going
to
occur.
The
Aesthetics
of
this
building
and
the
design
will
fall
under
the
unified
development
coordinates
as
well,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
design
standards
for
the
building
itself.
B
C
Make
a
motion
to
recommend
approvals
to
rezone
property
for
conditional
business
cb947
to
General
business
unlimited
to
use
gblu
property
is
located
on
the
Southeast
corner
at
the
intersection
of
University
Drive
and
roll
Retreat
Road
addresses
3832
University
Drive,
consisting
of
Alamance
County
tax
identification.
Number
174269
promotion
is
based
upon
the
consistency
of
the
proposed
rezoning
with
Comprehensive
planning
that
the
future
land
use
map
in
section
40
land
use
of
the
complex
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
this
area
to
have
Regional
commercial
uses.
The
request
that's
compatible
with
the
adjacent
commercial
uses.
C
A
C
A
A
A
Moving
on
item
number
four:
if
I
read
this
correctly
reasoning,
23012
Mr
Jeff
deal
to
present
a
request
to
rezone
property
from
medium
density,
residential
in
New
York
to
General
business,
limited
use.
Gblu
property
is
located
on
the
East
blue
side
of
the
intersection
of
Maple
Avenue
and
Anthony
Road
addressed
2632
medical
Avenue
and
consists
into
Automax
County
tax
ID
number
132508.
E
E
A
letter
was
sent
to
the
neighboring
property
owners
same
as
what
was
on
the
gis.
City's
mailing
list
that
went
out
last
Tuesday
I
was
on
property
and
I
invited
in
that
letter.
I
was
on
the
property
yesterday
from
four
to
six
pm
to
discuss
the
plans
limited
as
they
are,
with
the
others,
with
with
anyone
in
the
neighborhood
that
was
interested
in
discussing.
E
Interestingly,
I
got
a
call
last
Friday
from
Mr
Robbie
Hewitt,
who
is
one
of
the
equipments
to
received
the
letter
he
actually
used
to
honor
his
family
owned
the
property
where
the
Dunkin
Donuts
immediately
to
the
North
is
currently
located,
and
he
informed
me
that
there
were
restrictive
covenants
on
the
property
dating
back
to
1956.
When
the
subdivision
was
originally
put
in.
E
E
A
K
I
talked
to
was
100
percent,
but
the
when
I
received
the
letter
of
the
other
day,
Mr
Parker
and
I
talked
to
be
a
good
good
put
a
Facebook.
Yes,
sir,
yes,
sir,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
things
if
this
is
approved,
that
just
would
not
I
know
I
might
sound
hypocritical
because
my
property
was
approved,
but
I
didn't
think
of
retailers.
K
D
A
A
J
Don't
think
no,
no,
it's
nothing
that
the
this
is
not
initiative
can
address
right,
yeah,
certainly
property
owner
or
anyone
has
the
opportunity
to
put
a
covenant
on
their
own
land.
But
that
is
not
something
that
the
city
is
a
party
to.
So
certainly,
my
my
recommendation
is
that
the
planning
zoning
commission
can
move
forward
with
this
case,
make
a
recommendation
or
not
on
this
item
and
then
and
then
you
know,
the
the
item
pertaining
to
covenants
can
be
researched
further.
However,.
J
C
Right
now
that
we
I'm
sorry
quick
question
there
has
there
been
any
kind
of
traffic
study
done
there
I
mean
14
000,
no
other
intersection,
pretty
well
all
the
way
down
the
street
from
us.
So
I'm
in
that
you
know,
I'm
sitting
at
that
stoplight
sometimes
multiple
times
a
day.
Has
there
been
any
kind
of
traffic
analysis
done
for
putting
any
kind
of
business
there
I
mean
that's
a
very
it's
kind
of
not
shaped
intersection
anyway,
yeah.
E
E
So
there
has
not
been
I
will
mention
that
and
I
don't
know
where
it
stands
now,
but
I
believe
when
we
had
the
pre
application
meeting
that
the
gentleman
representing
the
transportation
department
he
sent.
He
had
the
discussion
about
that
Maple
Avenue
corridor
plan
that
was
going
on
at
one
time
and
it
actually
showed
a
roundabout
at
that
intersection
of
maple
enhancing,
which
could
be
this
good
bad
I'm,
not
good.
Based
on
what
he
sent
me.
E
It
wasn't
a
huge
overlap
onto
this
property,
but
you
know
with
traffic
calming
the
fact
that
it
would
seem
to
mitigate
some
concerns,
but
no,
we
they're
having
a
traffic
engineer
like
Emily,
horn
or
Davenport
have
not
been
brought
in
at
this
point.
Just
again,
trying
to
to
mitigate
upfront
calls
from
my
final:
what's
a
relatively
small
property
as
a
property
occupied,
maybe
it's
baked
it's
in
a
mistake.
E
I
will
say
the
mystery
Hewitt's
point
and
I
appreciate
him.
Letting
me
know
about
the
covenants.
In
the
first
place,
the
the
Dunkin
Donuts
concept,
you
know
that's
pretty
much
an
established
prototype
by
a
national
entity.
It's
pretty
easy
to
show.
You
know
to
convey
that
you
know
at
this
point
when
my
clients
is
not
with
the
potential
for
multi-tenant
retail,
not
really
knowing
what
form
that
might
take
or
exactly
what
I
have
a
feeling
it
would
be.
Restaurant
oriented
since
that's
how
one
of
my
plants
is
is
oriented.
E
Tendencies
other
than
the
restaurant,
then
that's
where
all
the
other
uses
emanated
from.
Thank
you
Mr
deal,
thank
you,
and
if
there
are
any
objectionable
uses
that
anyone
wants
to
address
I'll,
certainly
again,
I
regret.
My
plan
wasn't
able
to
attend,
but
I
before
it
would
go
to
council
I
would
certainly
relay
those
objections
to
them.
Very
good.
L
D
L
A
Things
in
here
and
it's
only
0.94
of
an
acre
and
how
you
form
a
bill,
some
of
this
stuff
in
an
acre
I,
don't
understand
that,
but
the
the
list
is
what
could
be
doesn't
mean
that
they
can
do
it
because
there's
going
to
be
limitations,
signs
and
stuff
that
will
prevent
that,
even
though
it's
on
the
list,
so
you
know
it's
just
there,
it's
not
a
conditional
zoning.
They
don't
have
to
tell
us
what
they're
just
saying
we
want
it
Zone
and
we
want
to
pick
from
this.
But
again,
if
you
say.
A
L
A
I
J
There
are
times
where
there
are
restricted
covenants
that
conflict
with
a
property
zoning
that
that
can't
exist
yeah.
That
is
not
uncommon,
so
I
I
do
not
know
what
the
restrictive
covenants
are
for
this
for
this
property
I,
don't
have
any
information
pertaining
to
that.
My
recommendation
to
you
to
you
guys
is
to
to
just
move
forward
if
you
so
choose
with
with
this
item
tonight,
so
we
were
to
vote.
J
A
Making
our
actions
based
on
the
information
we
have
here
here,
regardless
of
the
restricted
Covenant
they
can
take
care
of
that.
If
we,
if
we
vote
to,
approve
it
or
if
we
vote
not
to
approve
it,
it
still
goes
forward
and
then
the
question
of
restrictive
comes
into
it,
but
based
on
something
you
said
earlier
tonight
and
I.
Look
at
the
map
here.
One
of
the
things
that
concerns
me
and
I
just
bring
this
out
is
that
you're
not
only
addressing
Maple
Avenue
but
the?
What
is
that
backstream
my
eyes
and
a
lot
of
help?
A
So
when
you
make
a
move
on
Maple,
Avenue
you're,
putting
something
in
somebody's
backyard,
if
we
start
with
the
domino
effect,
turning
this
from
a
residential
to
commercial
you're
going
to
be
putting
somebody's
backyard,
they
move.
You
increase
that
commercial.
Now,
that's
in
somebody's
front
yard,
you're
affecting
to
pass
that's
something
to,
as
you
were
talking
about
looking
down
the
road.
Is
that
a
domino
effect
that
you
want
to
begin
or
do
you
can
consider
keeping
this
as
a
buffer?
A
And
that's
that's
something
that
we
have
to
look
at?
It's
it's
up
to
you,
but
I'm.
Just
saying
you
know
the
Dunkin
Donuts
went
in
and
now
if
another
commercial
property
goes
another
commercial,
where
you
put
a
commercial
property
down
in
somebody's
backyard
on
down
the
line.
If
these
people
move
and
they
go
that
commercial,
then
you're
putting
it
in
somebody's
front
yard
again,
don't
know
it's
something
to
think
about
I
I
hope
for
you
later
this,
but
if
I,
maybe
I
didn't
understand
regular.
A
Again,
I
do
not
know
once
again
I'm
asking
you
or
we're
being
asked
to
vote
on
what
has
been
presented
to
us
and
so
I
just
take
the
restricted
Covenant
out
for
the
time
being
and
decide
whether
or
not
this
meets
your
guide
for
what
you
want
done,
how
it
helps
the
city
or
hurts
the
city.
It's
up
to
you,
that's
just
something
I'm
playing
now.
Anybody
else
ever
comment.
H
Who's
partner,
it
reminds
me
of
a
zoning
case
years
ago
down
on
Mebane,
Mebane
Street
and
the
trail
that's
right
there
with
where
Ellenberg
real
estate
used
to
be
one
block
back
from
Alamance
Road
right.
There
was
a
house
there
right
at
the
edge
of
the
of
a
commercial
Zone
and
they
wanted
to
be
rezone
commercial
and
the
city
council
refused
because
it
was,
it
was
eating
into
the
neighborhood.
Just
like
what
you
were
talking
about,
that
it
was
going
to
track
down
Trail.
H
You
know
it
was
going
to
eat
into
the
trail
and
city
council
said
no.
This
house
is
staying
because
we
don't
want.
We
want
this
house
to
be
the
end
of
the
line
for
commercial.
The
commercial
goes
that
way
and
not
back
down
the
trail.
So
it
reminds
me
of
that
same
case
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
this
at
all.
For
that
reason,
commercial.
A
A
J
A
Yeah
and
potentially
the
traffic
circle
would
be
here
because
there's
not
space
right
here
if
you're
looking
at
this
point
there,
probably
because
of
the
size
that
it's
going
to
take
for
a
traffic
circle
on
that
road,
so
it'll
be
south
of
that.
A
lot
so
I've
got
a
speculation
on
my
part,
based
on
experience
over
at
University.
The.
B
B
A
B
Sounds
like
staff
has
received
some
inquiries
from
the
Republic
asking
about
what
the
resulting
request
is,
but
we
did
not
get
any
written
emails
or
communication
either
for
or
against
the
project.
We
were
doing
for
the
dispatch
recommendation,
but
based
on
the
future
awareness
map,
which
caused
the
area
to
be
General,
industrial
neighborhood
commercial
staff
is
recommending
approval,
corruption.
C
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
recommend
and
all
the
requests
and
his
own
property
for
medium
density,
residential
MDR
and
general
business
gblu
properties
located
on
the
easterly
side
of
the
intersection
of
Maple
Avenue
and
Anthony
Road
address
2632
Maple
Avenue,
consisting
of
Alamance
County
tax
identification
number
132508,
while
the
request
is
consistent
with
the
future
land
use
map
section
for
land
use
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
then
it
calls
for
this
area
to
have
General
industrial
neighborhood
commercial
uses.
The
request
symptom
is
not
necessarily
for
not
necessarily
for
this
location.
A
A
A
A
A
A
This
is
for
your
information
to
kind
of
see
how
city
council
is
moving
our
recommendations,
we've
made
and
try
to
get
a
grasp
on
their
Direction
I
appreciate
your
your
efforts
on
that.
Thank
you
so
much
and
look
forward
to
seeing
this
updated
in
this
time.
Good
song.
Also,
if
you
as
I,
understand,
that's
an
update,
we're
going
to
to
be
looking
at.
A
Also
bylaws
I
think
they're
going
to
be
working
on
a
way
for
us
or
for
a
way
for
a
Committee
Member,
commissioner,
who
doesn't
attend
or
there's
some
problem
that
we
have
to
remove.
We
have
nothing
in
place
to
remove
this,
so
a
commission
member
can
miss
meeting
after
meeting
with
no
repercussion
and
I.
Think
they're.
Looking
into
that,
so
hopefully
we'll
get
an
update
on
that.
At
some
point.
H
A
Part
of
the
Interior
procedure
is
that,
if,
if
ties
the
motion
fails
I'm
just
glad
to
see
this,
we've
got
to
cut
this
in
writing
that
we
have
a
nice
yeah.
Hopefully
we'll
we'll
have
this
that'll
all
be
in
the
we'll.
Have
this
up
every
meeting
before
the
meeting
so
that
people
come
in
we'll
give
them
this,
but
they'll
also
have
it
in
writing
up
there
in
front
of
them,
so
that
especially
their
three-minute
time
limit,
and
things
like
that.
So.