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From YouTube: BHS/BTC 2025 Town Hall
Description
School District leadership answers questions about building a new high school and related bond vote.
A
The
New
Mexico
and
Technical
Center,
and
so
with
that
we
also
have
Facebook
live
streaming.
Thank
you.
Shannon
Walters
is
helping
us
run
things
and
I
really
appreciate
you.
Shannon
supporting
the
tech
and
getting
us
rolling
here
and,
and
so
I'm
Tom
Flanagan
I'm,
the
superintendent
in
Burlington
schools
I'll.
Have
the
team
introduce
themselves
we'll
do
the
presentation
we'll
have
a
conversation
and
do
that.
A
G
C
A
You
so
a
couple
couple
points
and
just
sort
of
working
to
clarify
and
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
all
know
that
we
are
available
and
accessible
and
open
to
conversation
and
and
email,
dialogue
and
feedback.
We've
got
a
lot
of
that
going
on
over
the
past
number
of
months
and
we
look
forward
to
that
continuing
to
happen
again.
A
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
citizens
of
Burlington
understand
the
issue
and
are
fully
informed
and
make
a
decision
that
they
feel
comfortable
with
so
reasons
that
that
that
we
believed
that
that
we
have
put
a
bond
before
the
citizens
of
Burlington.
Are
that
number
one?
We
we
need
a
thriving
high
school
and
Technical
Center
to
have
a
healthy
Community.
It's
really
important
that
our
high
school
that
serves
about
a
thousand
students.
A
The
we
good
schools
increase
property
values,
and
so
it's
it's
beneficial
for
the
for
the
fiscal
health
of
the
of
the
city
and
the
individuals
in
the
city
as
well.
Macy's
lease
is
going
to
expire
in
2025,
and
we,
and
so
opening
in
2025
is
contingent
upon
the
project
starting
in
January,
and
so
the
timeline
is
really
important.
A
H
A
Second,
second,
big
point
is
that
the
cost
of
VHS
BTC
is
what
schools
cost
in
New
England.
So
we've
done
a
pretty
thorough
analysis
of
schools.
We've
looked
at
a
number
of
schools
in
Massachusetts.
There
are
a
number
of
schools
being
that
are
that
are
planned
for
Massachusetts
in
the
in
the
coming
years,
and
so
we've
looked
at
costs
related
to
for
those
projects
that
are
that
are
moving
forward
in
Massachusetts
at
our
cost,
and
so
what
we
know
is
that
this
is.
A
This
is
a
fair
cost,
it's
right
in
the
range
of
what
it
costs
and
will
cost
to
build
the
high
school
and-
and-
and
so
you
know,
the
cost
of
bhsptc
is
what
a
school
costs
to
build
in
New
England.
At
this
point,
and
so
we
can
get
into
sort
of
detail
the
square
footage,
but
I
won't
get
bogged
down
at
that
rate,.
B
A
Third
point
is
cleaning
up
and
renovating
is
not
responsible,
so
financially
and
also
ethically
I.
Don't
believe.
The
original
project
was
a
70
million
dollar
renovation
project.
We
learned
immediately
after
the
70
million
dollars
was
passed,
that
it
wasn't
enough
and
we
actually
needed
about
90
million
dollars
to
complete
the
project,
and
so
with
inflation
that
90
is
more
or
that
70
is
more
and
the
pcbs
in
a
renovation
will
last
forever
it'll
never
go
away
and
there
will
be
always
ongoing
costs
with
a
renovation
of
the
high
school.
A
A
The
the
next
kind
of
key
point
is
that
new
state
fund,
the
new
state
funding
formula
that
our
school
board
took
a
major
leadership
role
to
ensure
was
passed
beyond
what
anyone's
expectation
was
we
didn't.
We
didn't
believe
that
we
would
pass
this
going
in,
but
we
knew
it
was
a
fight
that
we
had
to
fight
because
it
is
a
matter
of
principle
and
Equity.
There
was
an
inequitable
funding
formula
in
our
state.
A
A
I
C
Sorry,
I
got
here
a
little
late.
The
main
question
I've
had
since
the
beginning
is
on
the
energy
side.
I
think
the
plan
is
working,
I
was
a
question
I
have,
however,
it
is,
has
the
systems
been
designed
and
what
kind
of
financing
structures
are
we
looking
at,
because
today
there's
quite
a
bit
of
opportunity
in
energy
as
a
service
and
other
things
like
that?
C
You
know,
I
know
the
school
one
of
our
parents
there
as
Burlington
electric
a
couple
times
and
I,
think
they
looked
into
what
the
savings
were
or
with
the
offsets
were,
but
it
seems
like
you
know
that
was
a
pretty
big
technology
investment
there
and
we'd
love
to
learn.
You
know
what
we
can
expect
performance
of.
That
system
was
used
in
the
trying
to
look
at
the
performance
of
what
we
can
expect
with
high
school.
D
A
D
All
right
so
I
will
project
there.
We
go
the
laptop's
speaker,
so
we
have.
We
are
designing
a
geothermal
system,
as
you
described,
we
have
done
a
test
well
on
the
site,
so
we
do
know
a
volume
of
water
we
got
from
that
first,
but
there
will
be
additional
Wells
required
for
the
system,
but
it
gives
us
a
good
confidence
in
that
geothermal
system.
I,
don't
know
enough
about
the
sustainability
Academy
to
grow
comparisons,
but
it
is
a
highly
efficient
system.
D
D
D
The
new
buildings
envelope
and
just
systems
efficiency.
It
will
greatly
reduce
the
amount
of
energy
compared
to
the
70
to
the
buildings
from
before.
So
the
wood
chip
plant
no
longer
made
sense
because
they
actually
can't
be
run
and
well
enough.
Fire
level
consistently
news
and
the
geothermal
system
sizing
is
designed
around
the
both
cooling
activity.
D
So
that's
kind
of
the
systems
design
piece.
The
other
piece
that's
very
important,
is
there
are
a
couple
of
funding
sources.
The
asset
funds
that
the
district
has
already
identified
are
geared
towards
improving
air
quality
in
schools.
A
significant
amount
of
mechanical
systems
will
be
allocated
to
that
funding
source,
which
is
already
being
looked
at
as
one
of
the
budgetary
offsets
for
the
project
newly
passed
is
the
inflation
reduction
act.
We
are
actively
looking
at
that.
There
are
broad
opportunities
there.
D
As
a
final
piece,
there
are
active
discussions
going
on
with
solar
providers
for
power
purchase
type
arrangements
so
that
we
can
have
a
power
generation
on
the
site,
potentially
at
no
Capital
costs
to
the
district
and
again
the
inflation
reduction
act
offers
potential
for
significant
direct
incentives.
So
the
district
will
be
looking
we'll
be
looking
with
the
district
at
which
one
is
the
most
stressful
Improvement.
D
B
If
anything
else
just
want
to
add
one
other
point
to
be
clear
that
Brandy,
maybe
I'll,
discuss
this
in
more
detail,
but
when
it
comes
to
looking
at
the
geothermal,
obviously
part
of
the
equation
was
to
make
sure
the
conditions
on
the
site
would
support
the
use
of
geothermal.
But
it
was
also
looked
at
through
the
prison
of
kind
of
a
cost-benefit
analysis
right
to
make
sure
that,
essentially
investing
that
money
up
front
would
actually
give
us
a
positive
net
return.
B
So
it's
it
obviously
helps
with
some
of
the
city's
kind
of
a
larger
energy
goals.
But
if
we
also
looked
at
it
from
a
pure
kind
of
cost-benefit
analysis,
is
it
better?
Is
it
more
financially
advantageous
for
the
project
and
obviously
for
our
community
to
you
to
move
to
a
geothermal
system
and
the
answer
based
on
the
results
we
got
was
was
yes.
K
D
Yeah
so
you're
identifying
that
that
Windows,
you
know
there
are
trade-offs
in
any
in
any
design
process,
and
if
we
were
to
design
you
know
solely
to
minimize
the
the
amount
of
heating
or
cooling.
You
know
we
can
get
into
kind
of
strategies
that
were
used.
I'd
say
the
70s
in
particular,
people
blocked
in
Windows
people
reduce
natural
natural
light.
D
The
reality
of
for
us
today,
with
a
lot
of
our
Technologies,
is
that
those
strategies
don't
actually
save
a
enough
in
the
opinion
of
most
design
professionals
to
to
be
worth
the
compromise
that
it
has
on
comfort
and
learning
environments,
and
we
also
know
that
learning
environments
and
student
performance
is
directly
tied
to
access
to
Natural,
Light
access
to
fresh
air
and
access
to
adequate
space.
So
there
are,
there
are
decisions
that
have
to
be
made
that
are
trade-offs,
but
the
amount
of
energy
this
building
will
consume.
D
Is
it's
a
fraction
of
what
the
school
district
was
paying
for
energy
through
all
the
years
up
until
now,
so
we
are
confident
that
we're
delivering
a
building?
That's
this
high
performance
and
we've
done
energy
modeling
to
ensure
that
we
are
making
the
best
capital
investment
now
to
to
minimize
energy
costs
over
time
that
to
go
farther
with
capital,
investment
would
not
be
included
to
go
farther
with
the
capital.
Investment
in
the
building
envelope
would
not
be
not
be.
There
are
still
the
discussions
of
the
sources.
How.
A
And
I
would
just
add
that
in
the
in
the
decision
for
of
this
option,
so
there
were
five
options
in
front
of
us
in
front
of
the
school
board
to
decide
which
of
the
buildings
that
they
thought
was
best
for
the
community.
They
chose
the
option
that
was
the
most
energy
efficient
because
it
was
contained.
So
some
of
the
other
buildings
were
kind
of
spread
a
little
bit
more
across
the
the
property.
A
So
we've
been
trying
to
balance
all
those
design
elements
that
we
wanted
to
have
in
the
building,
but
it's
a
highly
efficient
design
and
we
are
also
it's
it's
lead
for
sure
lead
which
one
it's
Lee,
but
also
Net,
Zero
ready
so
we'll
be
building
solar
capacity
on
on
the
building
itself,
as
well,
so
with
a
long-term
goal
of
of
being
Net
Zero.
So
it
is
something
that's
been
a
part
of
our
design.
I
really
appreciate
the
question,
because
I
think
it's
important
that
we're
pushed
on
on
that.
A
C
You
know,
I've,
never
seen
a
better
time
for
help
with
capital
expenses
right,
because
you
know,
if
we're
investing
a
lot
of
these
Technologies,
that
they're
typically
expensive,
but
they
pay
for
themselves
over
time.
As
you
said,
the
ROI
do
we
have
any
kind
of
estimates
now
with
moving
forward
well,
how
much
we're
going
to
lower
the
operating
expenses
I'm
sure
we
can
finance
and
find
people
to
help
get
the
capital
expenses
down.
C
E
B
So
yeah
so
I
don't
think
we
know
the
concrete
answer
in
terms
of
how
much
the
operating
accessible
will
be
reduced,
as
Brian
already
mentioned,
we're
very
confident
that
when
it
comes
to
the
energy
use
of
the
building,
we're
going
to
experience
significant
savings
there,
but
I
think
one
of
the
other
examples
and
then
they're,
probably
more
in
the
process,
but
that
I
think
we
also
anticipate
operating
expenses
associated
with
the
design.
Just
from
the
point
of
view
of
having
to
maintain
the
building.
Obviously
newer
features
are
going
to
require
less
maintenance.
B
Just
like
anything
else,
you
know
an
appliance
or
car
whatever
you
buy
new,
but
I'm.
Actually
thinking
even
beyond
that
by
being
conscious
about,
for
example,
the
choices
we
make
with
respect
to
things
like
flooring,
material
that
can
impact
how,
if
difficult
or
easy
it
is
to
maintain
the
floors,
how
many
custodians
that
we
need
to
clean
up
the
building
things
like
that.
B
H
C
So
we
we
do
have
a
construction
manager
on
board
now
who
is
working
through
all
those
Logistics
right
now,
working
very
closely
with
the
environmental
team
so
that
they
can
coordinate
the
demo
and
abatement
of
the
existing
buildings,
along
with
the
construction
of
the
new
building
of
site
Improvement.
Right
now,
with
our
projected
schedule,
we
are
planning
to
have
most
of
those
buildings
down
and
abated
before
a
lot
of
the
construction
of
the
new
building
starts.
C
There
still
might
be
some
demo
of
the
of
the
buildings
up
that
are
higher
up
on
the
hill
going
on.
While
we
start
construction
of
the
new
building
down
closer
to
Institute
road,
but
for
the
most
part
most
of
those
buildings
and
all
of
the
environmental
pavement
will
be
out
of
the
way,
but
they
are
required
of
you
know
under
state
law
to
to
take
into
account
just
the
coordination
of
of
the
mediation
going
on
with
with
new
construction.
G
A
If
we,
if
we
don't
pass
it
in
November
that
pushes
us
back
significantly
and
leaves
us
in
a
space
where
we
don't
have
a
building
in
2025..
So
that
means
a
I,
don't
think.
There's
another
space
in
this
in
the
city
that
could
fit
100
a
thousand
students.
We
actually
did
look
when
we
were
we
found
Macy's.
That
leaves
us
with
virtual
learning.
A
I
You
know
if
they
chose
not
to
come
so
I'll
repeat
one
of
the
questions
that
was
asked
last
night
at
our
board
meeting
and
you
can
choose
to
answer
it
or
not,
but
it
keeps
coming
up,
which
is
that
our
cost
per
square
foot
are
higher
than
costs
a
particularly
in
Massachusetts.
That
is
one
question.
It
just
keeps
showing
up
so
I,
don't
know
if
you
all
could
speak
to
to
that.
B
Sure
yeah
I
think
you're
100
right,
but
obviously
it's
not
going
to
result
in
an
accurate
comparison
to
look
at
schools
that
were
completed
previously
in
a
different
in
construction
environment
in
a
different
inflationary
environment.
We
actually
and
I'm
not
sure
that
we
have
them
here,
but
bear
with
me
for
a
second
I
will
see.
B
B
We
did
take
a
look
because
Massachusetts
has
a
very
useful
data
set
in
part
because
they
offer
significant
state
aid,
two
schools,
school
districts
to
construct
schools
and
the
first
point
I'll
make
about
that.
Of
course
is
one
of
the
things
that
has
come
up.
Is
this
notion
that
our
building
is
more
expensive
at
a
net
level
to
taxpayers
compared
to
Massachusetts?
And
that's
inherently
going
to
be
true
when
in
Massachusetts
school
districts
are
getting
20,
30
40
50
of
their
costs
paid
for
by
the
state
that
doesn't
exist
in
Vermont.
B
So,
inevitably,
if
you're
only
paying
50,
you
know
50
cents
on
the
dollar,
it's
going
to
be
cheaper
to
the
local
taxpayer.
So
that's
that's
true,
but
for
a
reason
that
has
more
to
do
with
state
level
policy
in
Massachusetts,
but
we
did
take
a
look
at
the
car.
The
construction
cost
per
square
foot
of
schools
in
Massachusetts
that
are
on
a
similar
construction
trajectory
and
therefore
it
seems
like
reasonable
for
us
to
compare.
We
looked
at
a
couple
different
ways.
B
We
talked
to
the
firm
that's
built,
schools
that
we
are
working
with,
and
that's
we've
talked
about
already
that
that
shows
that
our
costs
are
right
in
line.
We
also
went
to
this
website.
We
pulled
a
lot
of
the
schools
that
are
have
about
construction
completion
date,
2023
and
Beyond
to
see
what
our
construction
cost
per
square
foot
was
projected
to
be
relative
to
them.
And
while
it's
hard
to
read
that
I
understand,
people
are
going
to
be
able
to
read
it.
B
So
among
that
data
set
that
we
were
able
to
to
pull
from
the
Massachusetts
website,
you
can
see
that
our
costs
are
are
not
only
very
reasonable
but
they're,
actually
relatively
low
on
a
construction
cost
per
square
foot
basis
compared
to
those
schools
in
Massachusetts,
so
I
think
we,
we
all
feel
pretty
confident
that
the
costs
are
very
reasonable,
they're
still
high.
There's
no
doubt
about
that
construction
is
expensive
and
building
a
school
is
one
of
the
very
expensive
kind
of
instructions
you
can.
B
A
A
Another
question
that
has
been
coming
up
is:
why
are
we
just
looking
at
construction
costs
and
that's
we're
using
those
as
comparisons,
because
those
are
the
numbers
that
Massachusetts
are
are
putting
out,
so
we're
able
to
see,
see
those
and
do
an
Apples
to
Apples
comparison
as
much
as
possible.
Some
people
have
been
looking
at
the
numbers
differently
and
comparing
apples
and
oranges,
and
so
we're
trying
to
be
really
intentional
about
Apples
to
Apples,
which
is
square
feet
on
the
construction
cost
and.
A
J
Thank
you,
I'm
Claire,
wolf
here
on
the
school
board.
I
wanted
to
ask
the
question
for
Facebook,
viewers
and
I
know.
We
have
a
state
representative
here
as
well.
Tiff.
Thank
you
for
coming.
We
as
a
school
board
are
very
familiar
with
funding
that
is
available
at
the
state
level
and
that
has
been
publicly
announced
the
32
million
dollars
per
piece
of
PCB
remediation.
J
We
are
the
only
school
in
the
state
that
has
been
shut
down
and
the
health
department,
the
health
department
and
the
EPA.
Can
you
speak
to
us
being
first
in
line?
Come
January
2023
when
the
legislation
is
back
in
session
in
Montpelier,
and
our
state
leaders
recognize
our
situation
and
our
goals.
I
know
the
school
board.
J
A
So
this
is
a
problem
we've
known,
not
the
PCB
problem,
but
that
we
need
that
our
high
school
was
was
needed,
major
changes
and
then
the
pcbs
really
pushed
back
over
the
edge.
So
there
is
32
million
dollars
that
the
legislature
passed
last
year
to
support
a
PCP
for
me
studying
and
Remediation,
and
a
sort
of
unknown
of
the
PCB
problem
that
will
exist
in
the
state
they're
testing
schools
now
they've
tested
last
I
heard,
which
was
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
A
Seven
schools,
two
of
those
at
PCB
concerns
that
one
that
Cabot
ended
up
shutting
down
the
gym.
So
it's
a
it's.
You
know
it's
a
big
issue,
but
there
is
funding
there.
We've
made
the
direct
ass.
We
think
we're
we
we
are.
Our
need
is
clear.
We
serve
an
amazing
Community
right
in
a
community
where
half
of
our
students
qualify
for
free
and
reduced
lunch.
17
to
18
of
our
students
have
special
education
needs.
15
of
our
students
have
our
English
language,
Learners
and
and
they're
the
future
of
our
state
right.
A
L
L
There
I
think
we
are
united
States
strongly
before
Burlington.
I.
Also
think,
though,
that
there's
an
opportunity,
because
there
are
other
students
around
the
state
they're
going
to
need
abbreviation,
it
helps
firmly
to
make
the
case,
because
it's
all
of
us
that
and
then
the
state
investing
funds
in
school
construction
and.
L
I
mean
if
you
just
have
to
fight
them,
we
we
have,
we,
you
know
and
and
it,
and
it
will
not
be,
that
a
Burlington,
specific
particular
larger
vision.
Is
that
I?
You
know
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
I've
heard
you
loud
and
clear,
and
you
know
canvassing
in
my
own
District
because
of
the
election
and
brought
it
up
at
every
single
house
that
I've
been
to
and
have
gotten
a
number
of
questions.
A
L
C
Basically,
it
has
to
the
money
spent
has
to
have
at
least
40
percent
of
the
benefit
going
to
expand
communities
and
I'm
hearing
you
speak
of
our
student
population
and
transportation,
and
the
pollution
around
Transportation
other
things
like
that.
That
might
be
definitely
enabled
to
look
at
because
a
lot
of
the
new
money
is
coming
out
through
Transportation,
which
really
overlaps
significantly
with
what's
what's
happening,
so
everything
from
the
EPA
paying
for
school
buses
that
are,
electric
that
can
be
used
for
command
response
and
other
things
to
bring
down
bills.
C
A
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
tonight,
we'll
be
around.
If
anyone
wants
to
talk
a
little
bit
afterwards,
we're
we're
here,
multiple
board
members,
a
couple
members
of
the
team
that
are
working
on
the
design.
We
have
our
BTC
principal
back
there,
Jason
Reed,
see
you
thanks
for
being
here
and
so
yeah
we're
here.
A
If
anyone
wants
to
talk-
and
we
really
appreciate
you
coming
out
and
being
here
tonight
and
your
support
a
lot
and
your
question
is
going
to
help
us-
make
the
planet
stronger
and
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
about
all
angles
of
this,
so
we
really
appreciate
you
all
being
here.
Thank
you,
Russ.
Thank
you,
Shannon,
for
running
running
the
show
and
we'll
be
around.
M
M
Www.Bsdvt.Org
forward
slash
BHS,
Dash
btc-2025,
there's
a
sign
up
form
you
can
easily
just
get
there
by
our
home
page
and
the
board.
Members
will
get
your
information
and
get
your
help.
You
will
also
find
superintendent
Flanagan
at
nunions
on
November
3rd
stay
for
a
conversation
on
the
bond
or
anything
else
in
the
district
and
we'll
buy
you
a
coffee
and
thank
you
to
the
volunteers
who
will
be
at
Letty
Arena
this
Saturday
morning
and
next
Saturday
morning.
They
will
also
be
able
to
answer
your
questions.