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Description
The Calvert County Department of Public Works, Water and Sewerage Division will hold a Community Town Hall meeting to review and accept public input on the Water and Sewer Rate Study. The meeting will be held today, Sept. 26, 2023, at 6 p.m. at the Harriet E. Brown Community Center located at 901 Dares Beach Rd, Prince Frederick, MD 20678.
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A
Good
morning,
everybody
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
public
works
and
water
sewer,
Enterprise
funds
Workshop
to
talk
about
our
rate
study,
I'm
J.R
Cosgrove,
director
of
Public
Works
to
my
left.
I
have
James
Ritter
I'm
deputy
director
of
Enterprise
funds
to
his
left.
I
have
Richard
Lewandowski
he's
our
business
manager
to
my
right.
I
have
our
division
chief
of
water
and
sewer
Chris
Hall
to
his
right.
I
have
Tony's
in
she's
our
utility
building.
A
And
to
her
right,
I
have
Jen
Petco.
She
assists
with
our
Utility
Billing
so
from
here
we're
going
to
go
through
our
rate
study,
it's
kind
of
similar
to
the
presentation
we
give
in
another
kind
of
little
group
meeting
we
had
a
few
weeks
ago
and
also
similar
to
the
one
that
we
have
given
the
Board
of
Commissioners
I,
would
say,
probably
probably
almost
going
on
six
weeks
ago
now.
So
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
get
into
the
slides
Daryl.
Can
you
go
to
the
next
two
slides?
A
Please
next
slide
so
just
to
give
a
little
overrun
of
our
Revenue
requirements.
It
pretty
much
exists,
though,
so
our
annual
revenue
requirement
is
equivalent
of
kind
of
what
you
see
on
the
screen.
So
it's
the
contributions
to
to
the
reserve
account
our
planned
Capital
Improvement
projects,
our
outstanding
debt
and
our
operating
and
maintenance
expenses.
A
For,
of
course,
you
know
all
of
our
plants,
our
water
plants,
our
sewer
plants
and
including
the
line
infrastructure
into
the
conveyance
systems
to
get
from
the
plants
to
your
home
and
from
your
home
back
to
the
sewage
treatment
plants
next
slide,
Daryl.
So
with
that
the
relationship
between
the
user
account
and
the
capital
connection
fees,
this
slide
gives
a
little
breakdown
of
that.
A
Some
of
our
treatment
plants
or
sewage
has
been
in
use
since
the
90s,
correct
and
I
think
that's
our
newest
one,
except
for
the
one
in
Marley
Ron,
so
their
agent
infrastructure,
but
that,
as
everybody
knows
anything
ages,
we
always
got
to
do
work
to
and
maintain
it.
So
from
that,
on
the
capital
side,
our
system
grow.
Our
system,
maintenance
from
non-growth
is
basically
funded
by
our
cash
and
debt
funding,
which
also
comes
from
our
user
fees.
The.
A
Of
capital
expenses
is
system,
expansion
which
is
based
on
growth,
that
comes
from
some
cash
and
debt
funding,
which
comes
from
our
Capital
connection,
fees,
which
is
usually
from
new
development,
which
is
kind
of
equivalent
to
an
edu
or
equivalent
dwelling
unit.
So
when
you
tie
into
our
to
a
system
with
a
it's,
a
new
subdivision
or
new
business,
you
have
to
purchase
connection
fees
in
order
to
tie
into
our
system
and
there's
help
ex
us
pay
for
the
expansion
and
growth
of
our
system
because
of
the
new
businesses
or
the
new
residents
time.
A
That,
as
base
rate,
so
our
base
rate
is
based
off
of
how
many
edus
you
have
or
equivalent
to
onion.
So
most
residents
have
so
you'll
see
a
single
base
ring
for
commercial
businesses.
Most
of
them
generally
have
a
whole
lot
more
than
one
so
I'll
have
ten.
Some
have
hundreds,
so
their
base
rate
is
pretty
much
multiplied
by
how
many
connections
are
equivalent
to
Ln
units
they
have
so
the
the
other
thing.
A
So
next
slide
there.
So
this
is
kind
of
a
breakdown
of
our
Revenue
requirements
versus
our
current
and
our
proposed
revenue
for
just
our
water
system.
So
if
you
take
a
look
at
this
Slide,
the
blue
bar
on
the
bottom
of
each
of
the
the
fiscal
years
is
operating
expenses.
The
I
guess
you'd
call
it
the
light.
Blue
line
is
our
current
Revenue
that
we're
receiving
now,
based
on
the
current
rates
that
we
charge
for
our
water
and
sewer
usage
specifically
for
water.
On
this
one
and
our
base
rates
and.
D
C
A
See
as
you
as
you
look
through
our
upcoming
years,
we
projected
out
our
operating
expenses,
exceeds
our
current
Revenue
rates,
which
is
kind
of
why
we're
here
this
evening
and
been
looking
at
increase
in
our
rates,
because
we
haven't
increased
our
rates
since
2016.
and,
as
everyone
knows,
inflation
and
all
the
other
rates
have
gone
up.
A
A
D
A
A
A
A
To
get
through
this
that
way,
we're
going
to
everyone
can
ask
questions.
Okay,
the
next
slide
Daryl
is
our
operating
cash
balance.
So,
with
the
rate
study,
we're
looking
at
projecting
at
least
having
a
90-day
operating
expense
coverage
in
here.
So
on
this
slide,
you'll
see,
of
course,
once
again
is
our
ending
operating
balances,
our
blue
columns
on
each
of
the
fiscal
years
and
the
red
line
is
our
Target
cast
and
we
want
to
keep
on
hand
the
checking
out
with
our
our
rate
study
next
slide.
A
I
showed
you
for
the
water
same
thing:
the
blue
column
is
our
operating
expensive.
The
lighter
blue
line
is
our
current
Revenue.
That's
that's
projected
if
the
fees
stay
as
they
are
and
then,
of
course
we
have
the
current
debt
service,
above
that
in
the
in
the
reddish
orange
line,
and
then
we
have
the
new
Debt
Service
in
purple
and
then
the
connection
fee
shortfall,
because
our
connection
fees
also
have
not
gone
up
in
years
stacked.
On
top
of
that,
and
then
we
have
our
proposed
Revenue
line.
A
Like
I
said,
they're
all
older
plants
to
repair
them
and
maintain
them
is
not
the
the
cheapest,
with
some
of
the
devices
that
we
we
need
in
there,
because
I
know
we're
just
looking
at
one
aspect
of
one
of
our
plants
down
Solomon's
and
just
for
one
unit
in
there
that
we
need
offer
that
one
piece
of
unit
and
it
doesn't
even
do
hardly
any
treatment.
It's
just
you
know.
A
A
A
So
this
one
changed
from
the
last
time
that
we've
one
showed
the
Commissioners
or
had
our
small
group
meeting,
and
this
changed
because
of
some
feedback.
We
got
from
customers
because
there
was
concern,
as
some
of
us
had,
that
our
tier
systems
were
set
too
low,
so
we're
proposing
a
four-tier
system
and
initially
that
tier
one
was
set
up
to
I,
believe
it
was
3.
300
gallons
was
the
cap
we
modified
and
brought
it
up
to
4,
800
or
4
500..
A
Our
tier
two
I
believe
was
capped
at
so
about
12
000..
We
raised
that
up
to
18
000,
which
is
equivalent
to
one
edu
with
the
most
residential
units
have
and
from
there
tier
three.
The
only
difference
is
the
low
end,
change
to
18
0001,
the
high
end,
still
108,
and
then
tier
four
would
be
anything
over
108,
000.
and.
D
A
You
can
see
from
the
slide
based
on
usage
tier
one
handles
about
takes
into
account
about
19
of
our
usage.
Tier
two
is
about
28
percent
tier
three
has
20
percent
of
usage
and
tier
four
has
31
percent
and
I
have
a
slide
further
down
that
breaks
that
down
to
actually
how
many
users
we're
being
included
into
each
of
the
tier
system
next
slide
so
on.
This
next
slide
is
the
projected
water
rates
it's
their
current
brakes
versus
our
our
alternate
rate,
design.
A
You
see
our
current
rate,
design
as
it
currently
is,
and
we're
currently
charging
2.92
per
thousand
gallons
of
water
with
a
base
rate
of
per
quarter
59.34,
that's
what
the
current
fee
is
now
that
we
charge
if
we
continue
with
that
current
model,
we're
looking
at
what
we
would
consider
more,
a
flat
rate
for
variables,
so
we'd
end
up
going
from
292
to
3.20
cents
per
thousand,
and
our
base
rate
would
be
65
at
four
and
there's
an
increase,
as
I
stated
before.
I
think
it's
nine
point.
A
Some
percent
for
the
first
three
years
and
it's
a
flat
three
and
that's
projected
out
through
that
table.
If
you
look
at
the
lower
half
the
slide,
where
we
talk
about
the
alternative
rate
design,
that's
where
we're
looking
at
the
tier
system.
So
you
have
a
First
Column,
which
is
still
our
current
rate
for
our
base
rate
and
then
our
current
fee
that
would
be
charged
for
basically,
all
those
tiers
as
it
currently
is
because
it's
two
point
or.
D
A
Cents
per
thousand,
so
in
24
we're
looking
at
once
again
our
base
rate
going
up
by
that
nine
point,
I
think,
is
eight
percent
to
get
us
a
64.0
or
64
dollars
and
four
cents
for
our
base
rate,
and
then
each
tier
has
a
different
rate
per
thousand.
So
if
you
look
at
tier
one,
you'd
be
paying
if
you're
in
tier
one
you'd
be
2.27
cents
per
thousand
gallons
and
tier
two
would
be
2.83
cents,
tier
three
would
be
340
and
tier
four
would
be
3.97
per
thousand.
A
So
if
you
look
at
that,
the
there's
value
in
using
less
water
because
you
would
fall
into
the
tier
two
or
below,
where
your
current
rate
you'd
be
paying
for
a
thousand
gallons,
is
actually
less
than
what
you
pay
in
today
and
then
and
and
the
reason
that
we
can
do.
That
is
because,
when
you
look
at
the
rate
model
we're
looking
at,
we
need
x
amount
of
Revenue
at
the
end
of
the
year
to
cover
all
the
operating
expenses.
A
C
A
A
End
up
paying
more
and
there's
twofold
for
that
from
what
we've
been
seeing
from
other
jurisdictions
and
we're
talking
to
the
Maryland
Department
environment,
the
tier
systems
are
also
used
as
a
conservation
practice
to
help
us
save
water.
All
of
us,
because
we
all
know
that
it's
a
valuable
resource,
you
know
so
the
more
you
use
you're
going
to
pay
a
little
bit
more
because
it
costs
us
more
to
production
produce
it.
A
As
you
move
forward
to
the
same
tier
system,
the
current
rate
right
now
we're
looking
at
6.32
cents
per
thousand
for
your
sewer
if
we
stayed
with
the
flat
rate,
we'd
be
looking
at
7.38
cents
per
thousand
and
once
again
it's
the
same
increase
for
the
first
three
years,
where
I
think
it's
16.8
for
the
first
three
years
and
it's
a
flat.
Three
percent
increase
for
the
rates.
A
In
a
way
we
measure
sewer
usage
is
based
on
water
usage
because
in
theory,
what
goes
in
must
come
out
if
we're
using
water
for
other
things,
such
as
irrigated
Lawns
or
so
forth.
Like
that,
you
have
the
opportunity
where
you
could
put
in
a
subtraction
meter
which
subtracts
out
the
flow
that
wouldn't
be
going
into
the
sewer
so
that
recalculates,
what
your
sewer
usage
is
because
it'll
subtract
that
out
from
your
water.
A
So
this
skin
kind
of
gives
you
a
breakdown
of
what
the
quarterly
billing
impact
would
be
if
we
went
with
with
the
fees
we're
proposing
were
adopted
by
the
Commissioners.
So
if
you
look
at
where
user
users
we
have
a
small
user
medium
using
a
large
user
now
I
know
some
think.
The
small
users
are,
probably
you
know
low,
and
no
one
actually
does
that.
But
10
of
our
users
are
within
that.
A
A
B
A
Users,
which
is
our
75th
percentile,
which
means
there's
about
25
percent
of
our
users
above
that
are
using
fifteen
thousand
six
hundred
gallons,
and
you
can
see
on
the
slide
that
the
math
works
out
throughout
and
and
still
once
again,
when
you
start
looking
at
the
combined
Bill,
the
alternate
design
is
actually
helping.
The
users
pay
less,
with
the
increase
versus
having
a
flat
fee,
because.
D
A
Is
each
user?
No
matter
what
tier
you
fall
in.
Let's
just
say
you
fall
in
tier
three.
You
get
credit
for
the
lower
cost
per
thousand
gallons
from
tier
one.
So
if
you
use
20,
000
gallons
a
quarter,
your
first
4
500
gallons
are
at
the
tier
one
price,
your
next
gallons
up
from
forty
five
thousand
one
up
to
eighteen
thousand,
you
get
charged
the
rate
of
tier
two
and
then
your
last
two
thousand
gallons.
A
You
get
charged
the
rate
of
tier
three,
so
each
user
will
get
benefit
of
that
lower
fee
because
you're
using
that
galsa,
so
it
within
within
a
tier.
So
if
you
fall
in
tier
three
you're,
not
paying
the
tier
three
rate
for
all
your
usage,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
that,
because
it
can
be
a
little
confusing
when
you
think
about
it.
It's.
A
A
So
on
here
you
can
look
on
tier
one.
We
said
it
was
Nineteen
percent
of
our
usage,
but
that's
actually
23
percent
of
our
customers
will
fall
into
tier
one
at
their
current.
You
23
of
our
customers,
will
fall
into
what
we're
proposing
to
tier
one
between
zero
and
4
500
gallons
tier
two
is
an
additional
fifty
eight
hundred
percent
of
our
customers,
so
the
majority
of
our
customers
fall
in
tier
one
and
tier
two.
A
A
A
A
It
gives-
and
this
is
actually
on
our
website-
you
can
go
to
there's
a
caverncountymd.gov
and
go
to
our
water
and
sewer
page
you'll
see
a
tab
on
there.
That
says
view
rate
calculator.
You
can
open
that
up
and
input
your
user.
What
you
actually
use
is
on
your
bill
and
it'll.
Compare
your
current
bill
to
what
it
would
be
if.
A
D
A
Make
sure
you
put
in
the
correct
number
of
edus
you
have
I
would
assume
most
residents
probably
have
one
edu
so
that
shouldn't
be
an
issue,
but
if
your
business
make
sure
you
put
in
the
exact
number
of
edus,
you
have
because
that'll
also
affect
your
bill.
How
many
of
you?
Each,
though
right,
water,
one
for
water,
one
person
right
correct,
so
I
mean
the
sample
bill
that
we
have
on
the
screen.
I!
Think
we
just
plugged
in
25,
000
gallons.
We
assumed
you
have
a
subtraction
meter
of
5000.
A
D
A
D
A
A
A
And
with
that
we'll
I
guess
you'd
say:
We'll
accommodate
public
comment
under
questions
in
person
or
by
zoom
we're
going
to
start
with
the
people
in
in
person
first
and
then
we'll
go
to
zoom
and
we'd
like
to
try
to
limit
comments
or
questions
to
three
minutes
if
possible.
But
we
can
always
get
back
around
because
I'm
pretty
sure
we
all
don't
want
to
be
here
all
night.
So
is.
D
H
H
J
A
D
I'm
Joan,
Thorpe
and
I
live
in
Port
Republic.
My
question
is
about
the
rate
structure
itself.
The
design
of
the
base
plus
variable
rate,
which
I
was
involved
in
the
fixed
costs,
are
in
the
base
rate
which,
as
you
said,
Debt
Service
Capital
infrastructure
improvements,
those
kind
of
things
if
I
understand
your
graphs
correctly.
There
is
a
gap
in
the
future
years,
especially
in
sewer,
because
we're
going
to
have
increased
infrastructure
costs,
we're
going
to
have
increased
debt
cost
due
to
the
Aging
plants
and
the
needs
to
do
something
about
that.
D
But
my
question
is
this:
why
would
the
base
rates
not
be
increasing
to
reflect
that,
since
that
is
where
those
costs
are
captured?
They're,
not
the
variable
costs
are
supposed
to
be
for
things
like
electricity
and
chemicals,
as
you
said
so
I'm
just
a
little
confused
about
the
structure
of
the
new
design
it
seems
like
so
those
costs
are
shifting
from
the
base
rates
over
to
the
variable
side.
A
D
D
E
A
E
E
Your
slide
shows
that
your
light
blue
line
current
Revenue
staying
flat
with
no
increases
ever,
which
is
not
realistic.
If
you
use
the
rate
model,
that's
in
existence
now
that
we've
been
using
in
Prior
years.
Why
isn't
a
line
shown
on
there
to
show
how
that
would
increase
be
more
realistic
to
show
a
realistic
as
to
what
this
new
rate
model
is
and
what
the
existing
rank
model
is,
what
the
difference
is
going
to
be
and
what
they
do
for
Revenue.
So.
A
The
proposed
Revenue
that
line
is
drawn.
It
doesn't
matter
whether
we
go
with
the
tiered
system
or
the
current
flat
rate
that
rev
that
Revenue
line
is
still
the
same,
because
it's
the
same
amount
of
increase
that
we're
doing
so
for
a
while
they're
on
page
five
that
we're
still
at
that
9.6
percent
increase,
whether
we
stick
with
a
flat
rate
or
we
go
with
a
variable
rate
versus
a
very
boring.
If
we
go
with
the
tiered
system,
it's
the
same
increase
in
Revenue.
It
doesn't
matter
which
system
we
go
to,
but.
A
You
know
I'm
sure
they
know
I,
don't
know
if
the
top
of
my
head,
but
let's
just
say
we
need
to
get
to
that
value
at
the
end
of
the
year,
and
when
we
looked
at
the
rate
model,
we
determined
it
doesn't
matter
whether
we
stay
with
the
flat
rate
or
we
go
with
the
tier
system.
We
still
end
up
at
that
same
value,
right.
A
A
D
E
But
that
doesn't
give
me
the
total
number
where
we're
looking
at
it
doesn't
give
me
a
total.
It
just
gives
me
a
one
single
snapshot.
It
doesn't
tell
me
so
am
I
supposed
to
take
that
number
and
multiply
it
by
five
thousand
and
some,
but
that's
not
realistic,
because
you
have
different
types
of
customers
that
use
different
rates
correct
and
also,
while
we're
on
this
slide.
E
A
C
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
A
E
A
Because
when
the,
when
the
end
user
of
tier
one
went
from
3
300
to
4,
500,
more
users
now
volunteer
one
more
Usage
Now
falls
into
everyone.
Therefore,
the
percentage
of
usage
and
the
percentage
of
customers
would
increase,
because
you
have
more
users
using
under
4,
500
gallons
and
you
had
using
under
3,
300
gallons.
E
A
E
Short-Term
thinking,
because,
with
the
tier
system,
your
businesses
are
going
to
pay
more.
So
what
are
they
going
to
do?
They're
going
to
increase
the
prices
of
the
services
they
provide,
so
you're
going
to
end
up
paying
more
even
people
who
are
not
on
voters
who
are
going
to
end
up
paying
more
so
that.
A
E
E
Yeah
or
or
they're
going
to
lose
customers
because
I
know
people
right
now
who
are
going
out
of
County
to
do
things
that
require
water
usage
because
they
say
they're
not
paying
it
I'm
on
I
have
to
pay
my
own
pumping.
Well,
why
am
I
paying
for
to
help
those
people
so
I
know
people
who
are
already
going
out
of
County
for
that
you're
going
to
see
more
of
it,
and
then
why
do
we
have
to
put
out
almost
five
million
dollars?
How
is
that
going
to
impact
the
cost?
E
If
you
eliminate
that
five
million
dollars
for
the
new
fancy
to
do
want
to
have
nice
to
have
meters
replacing
ones
that
aren't
even
a
year
old,
yet
they
haven't?
Most
of
them
haven't
even
been
through
their
useful
life,
yet
you're
replacing
them
plus
the
new
software
were.
Were
the
customers
asked
if
they
wanted
to
pay
for
that?
If
that
was
something
that
they
wanted
to
have,
why
don't
we
see
the
difference
between
what
that
would
cost
the
customer?
How
that's
going
to
affect
the
rates?
It's
got
to
affect
the
rates.
A
A
We're
looking
at
options
to
modify
that
different
contractors,
different
equipment
and
different,
not
all
meters
will
be
changed
if
they
were
put
in
a
year
ago.
They
wouldn't
be
there's
different
options
where
we
could
change
the
antenna
on
them,
which
would
cost
less
and
replace
the
entire
meter.
That'll
still
get
them
on
the
system.
E
E
E
E
C
E
A
E
E
A
On
our
end,
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
have
a
consultant,
an
outside
Source,
evaluate
the
data
and
come
up
with
the
numbers
and
say
Here's
how
we
come
up
with
the
numbers,
because
now
it's
a
it's
an
unbiased
person
looking
at
our
budget,
basically
to
come
up
the
rate
numbers
first
is
US
in-house
doing
and
saying:
well,
here's
what
we
come
up
with,
because
then
I
feel
like
we'd
be
questioned.
Well
now,
who
double
checked
your
numbers
to
make
sure
that
the
rate
model
is
accurate,
but.
E
A
Because
that
was
a
number
that
seems
to
be
a
good
tiered
system
throughout
other
jurisdictions.
Use
these
tearsity
even
within
Calvert
County
and
other
Water
Systems
within
Calvert
County
use
the
tier
system
and
it
helps
to
push
conservation
of
water,
because
if
you
use
more
you're
going
to
pay
more,
so
you
know
if.
A
E
C
A
C
E
E
M
Next,
my
name
is
Michelle:
I
live
in
Prince
Frederick,
so
at
the
last
meeting
I
know
we
were
talking
about
the
whole
tier,
the
rates
and
the
quantities,
and
all
of
that
I
was
hoping
that
we
could
see
a
side-by-side
comparison
because
I
I
did
hear.
You
say
that
the
rates
would
change.
If
you
change
the
quantities,
correct
and
so
I
was
hoping.
M
We
could
see
like
a
side
by
side
like
total
value,
for
that,
like
the
to
compare
I,
think
that
would
be
really
helpful
for
people,
I,
guess
the
follow-up
question
to
the
tier
system.
That
is,
if
this
is
all
still
being
decided.
When
will
it
be
finalized
with
the
Commissioners
I?
Guess
because
it
sounds
like
you're
I
know,
I
was
at
the
last
meeting.
D
A
It's
not
final
because
we
haven't
presented
it
to
the
board.
Yet,
okay,
we,
the
staff,
would
like
to
have
this
in
place
by
January,
1.
and
the
reason
I
say.
That
is
because
the
way
our
our
system
works
once
the
Commissioners
adopt
the
new
rates,
they
don't
go
into
effect
for
six
months
after
the
adoption.
A
C
A
Would
go
into
effect
on
a
new
fiscal
year
now
that's
what
we
would
like
I'm,
not
going
to
say.
That's
what's
going
to
happen,
we
would
like
to
give
feedback
from
our
survey
and
from
the
customers
here
and
see.
If
that's
the
path
we
go
we'll
end
up
presenting
it
to
the
Commissioners
at
the
time
we
do
present
as
Commissioners
it
will
be
a
public
hearing.
It
will
be
advertised
for
I.
Think
it's
two
weeks
prior
to
the
meeting.
M
A
A
So
if
you
go
to
the
Calvert
County
website
and
click
on
I
think
it's
departments-
Public
Works
in
the
water
and
sewer
in
there
there's
a
one
to
click
on
the
bill.
Calculator
one
to
click
on
the
survey
and
I
believe
there's
a
link
there
to
click
on
get
update
your
feedback
from
this
website.
Okay,
also.
M
The
other
question
I
had
I
know
the
edu
rates
have
been
meetings
and
I've
I
think
I
heard
that
that's
kind
of
being
handled
separately.
But
where
does
that
tie
into
all
like
the
actual
rates
that
will
be
filled
because
I
don't
know
if
that's
factored
into
all
this
budgeting
or
not?
But
how
does
that
play
into
all
this.
A
M
M
A
A
A
M
No
and
I
don't
either
I'm
just
saying
if
I'm
hearing
that
this
rate
could
possibly
double
and
I
see
nothing
but
new
townhouses
going
in
on
Prince
Frederick,
Boulevard
and
new
businesses
going
in
that's
all
potential
revenue
for
water
and
sewer.
Why
would
you
know
what
I'm
saying
like
you're
basing
our
base
rate
moving
forward,
but
not
factoring
in
that.
A
M
M
M
B
L
L
I
want
to
talk
about
process
where
most
of
us
are
here,
because
there
were
ridiculously
inflated
bills
that
went
out
at
the
end
of
last
year,
and
that
was
a
big
black
eye
on
the
county
and
it's
a
hole
that
frankly,
they
need
to
dig
out
of
and
now
we're
sitting
here,
having
County
staff
tell
us
here's
what
we
need
to
do
to
dig
out
of
the
hole
and
I'm
sure
you're
right
you've
said
it.
You
know,
you've
got
a
number.
L
You've
got
to
get
to
doesn't
matter
where
the
tiers
are,
where
the
rates
are.
There's
a
number
and
that's
where
you
need
to
get
to
get
to
be
I.
Understand
that
what
I
don't
understand
is
it's?
It's
a
lot
of
fox
Garden,
the
hen
house.
We've
already
had
a
badly
executed
attempt
to
raise
revenue,
and
now
we've
got
the
same.
L
Hopefully
not
the
same.
People
but
we've
got
the
same
institution
doing
it
again.
The
last
meeting
that
we
were
all
at
there
was
this
discussion
of
having
a
Citizens
board.
That
would
do
some
of
this
work
make
recommendations.
I
really
would
like
to
see
that
move
forward
in
this
County
there's
no
shortage
of
those
types
of
boards,
there's
probably
50
of
them.
Somebody
probably
has
the
number,
but
that's
what
we
need
here.
I
mean
we
need
the
Citizens
Voice
and
it
can't
just
be
a
survey.
It
can't
just
be
this
meeting.
L
There's
only
20-ish
people
here
and
you've
got
over
5
000
customers,
so
it's
not
an
accurate
representation.
The
only
reason
I'm
here
is
because
Ms
burden
sent
me
the
information
to
be
here.
I,
don't
believe,
I
got
the
postcard,
so
it's
I
think
we
really
need
to
do
better
on
process.
We
need
to
rethink
that
whole
thing.
We
need
that
board,
so
I
really
ask
that
we
seriously
consider
that
from
the
commissioner
level.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
You
have
received
that
that
explains
some
of
what
I'm
saying
today:
I'm
relatively
new
to
Solomon's
and
purchase
a
new
home
and
planted
a
yard
and
to
get
the
gas
keep
the
grass
green
I
had
to
water,
the
lawn
and
consequently
my
sewer
bill
was
skyrocketed
because
I
was
paying
six
dollars
or
so
or
five
dollars,
a
thousand
gallons
for
water,
but,
quite
frankly,
was
not
going
down.
The
sewer
I
did
an
analysis
of
my
own
water
usage
and
I.
Looked
at
March
or
December
through
March
versus
June
through
August
and
my
rates.
F
My
water
usage
was
about
8,
000
gallons
a
day
or
I'm.
Sorry,
not
a
day
at
the
quarter
during
the
winter
time
and
during
the
summer
time
was
18
to
20,
000,
gallons
and
I
know
that
water
wasn't
going
down
the
sewer.
So
it's
fundamentally
unfair
that
you're
charging
my
sewer
rate
based
on
the
water
that
I
use,
there's
no
correlation
between
water
use
and
Sewer
use.
If
you
have
outside
or
other
indoor
use
and
I,
don't
think
that's
that's
fair
and
your
response
has
been
well
get
a
sub
meter.
F
You
could
do
a
study
and
I'm
sure
your
rate
consultant
can
probably
help
you
out
on
this.
Where
you
look
at
the
winter
water
usage
to
determine
what
your
base
sewer
rate
is,
and
you
use
that
as
the
the
method
of
building
the
sewer
rate
rather
than
their
water
usage
and,
quite
frankly,
I'm
surprised
that
you
can
even
get
away
with
building
sewer
based
on
water
meter
usage
without
some
accommodation
for
the
use
of
water
outside,
and
please
don't
go
back
to
the
sub
meter
thing.
F
It's
just
not
practical
you're
proposing
Smart
Meters
use
the
smart
meters
to
make
that
determination,
use
a
study
of
wintertime
water
usage
versus
summertime
usage
to
make
that
study.
Don't
impose
the
cost
of
a
sub
meter
on
your
customers
when
it's
not
absolutely
necessary
and
I
estimate
that,
on
my
bill
alone,
I
probably
have
paid
300
more
for
sewer
than
I
should
have
based
on
how
much
was
discharged
the
sewer
over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years.
A
F
If
you
could
have
a
in
fact,
you
do
that
right
now
with
what
is
it
twin
beaches,
you
give
them
the
opportunity
to
have
a
flat
rate
on
their
sewer
because
you
don't
Supply
their
water
correct
so,
but
there
are
many
jurisdictions
that
have
multiple
water
suppliers
and
if
you
had
to
have
water
meter
readings
from
every
jurisdiction
to
calculate
your
bills,
that
would
be
kind
of
a
nightmare.
It
would
be
very
difficult
to
do
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
simpler
way
of
doing
it
than
than
you
know.
F
Reading
two
a
meter
and
a
sub
meter
is
that
going
to
be
possible
with
your
Advanced
meter
system?
Why
have
that
extra
cost
and
that
extra
Hardware
to
deal
with
when
you
can
do
it
on
paper
or
by
probably
a
simple
cap
on
the
amount
of
water
usage
or
sewer
usage?
And
why
can't?
Why
can't
the
residents
who
have
sewer
and
water
in
Calvert
County
have
the
opportunity
to
have
the
same
flat
rate
that
you
have
in
Twin
beaches?
F
A
F
A
F
F
F
C
F
So
I
think
you
need
to
re-examine
your
structure,
your
rate
structure
and
I
know
that
might
be
starting
all
over
again,
but
I
really
would
again
I'm
surprised
that
you
can
measure
charged
sewer
usage
based
on
water
without
some
accommodation
for
the
fact
that
all
the
water
doesn't
go
down
the
drain
and
I
I
think
this.
This
sub
meter
thing
is
what
what
does
it
cost
do?
You
have
experience
of
what
those
costs
when
you
actually
put
them
in
and
how
many
people
have
them.
F
G
G
G
But
yeah
I
was
wondering
that
if
everybody,
you
know
depending
how
you're
playing
this
because
I
mean
you
haven't,
talked
about
when
you're,
even
replacing
a
septic
system,
because
it
costs
too
much,
it
costs
a
million.
And
it's
like
well
geez.
If
we
live
here
for
a
I'm,
only
good
for
another
20
years,
I'm
not
seeing
what
you're
doing
outside
of
making
everybody
angry
because
you're
asking
for
more
money
but
you're
not
producing
anything
except
what
we
use.
A
G
A
D
G
Was
just
asking
that
because
I'm
I'm
living
a
in
a
house
in
Bayside
Forest,
where
I'm
coming
to
a
point
where
something
needs
to
be
done
with
the
property,
because,
okay,
some
of
us
got
hit
with
a
hurricane
10
on
10
20
odd
years
ago,
and
the
structures
are
not
exactly
all
that
efficient
anymore.
Neither
is
the
actual
system
that
we
have
to
use
for
septic,
as
well
as
water
biggest
thing.
G
I've
heard
about
with
the
water
is
that
the
people,
when
you
started
playing
with
your
automatic
meters,
that
all
of
a
sudden
you
found
out
people
owed
you
thousands
of
money
that
they
never
knew.
They
did
so.
Yes,
gentlemen,
you
need
to
make
sure
not
to
upset
everybody
and
be
fair
and
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
letting
me
share
my
opinion,
which
probably
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
anybody.
Thank
you.
K
Good
evening,
so
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions
on
one
of
the
slides,
Slide
Five.
It
does
show
that
in
fiscal
year
or
page
five,
it
does
show
that
in
fiscal
year
2024
there
is
a
a
much
larger
amount
of
cash
funded
capital
projects.
Do
we
know
what
those
are
like?
What
is
what
is
the
amount?
Why
is
it
so
much
higher
than
every
other
year?
Why
are
we
doing
that
all
in
one
year,
when
that's
so
much
higher
than
the
current
and
proposed
Revenue?
Do
you
remember
what
those
four
changed.
K
A
H
K
We
funding
them,
so
we
should
know
what
they're
for
sure
and
I
think
that
was
part
of
what
we
went
over
last
time
and
I'll
go
through
it.
There
were
five
items
that
we
wrote
down:
okay
and
I.
Think
everyone
took
note
of
those
five
items
and
I
posted
them
all
over
social
media
and
I
emailed
them
to
the
Commissioners.
And
you
know
we
read
them
off
to
you
guys,
and
so
there
were
those
five
items
but
number
five
of
those
items.
K
Then
what
the
current
revenue
and
proposed
revenue
is,
you
know
so
I,
don't
know
why
I
I
saw
that
and
I
said
well
I'm
going
to
circle
that,
because
I
have
no
idea,
you
know
and
to
we
have
any
say
in
that:
like
are
these
cash
funded
capital
projects?
Are
they
things
that
we
need?
Are
they
wants
or
they
must
haves?
You
know,
because
there
are
the
people
that
are
going
to
have
to
afford
this
and
I
do
want
to
say,
I
keep
hearing.
K
E
K
Yeah
no
problem
so
so
yeah,
just
as
far
as
it
goes
to
drawing
comparisons
and
saying
you
know
that
somebody
who's
only
using
x
amount
of
water,
let's
say
four
thousand
average
and
a
quarter.
You
know
that
they're
I,
guess
more
deserving
of
the
lower
rates.
I
mean
I.
Think
we
really
need
to
think
that
through
because
our
you
know
all
the
consumers
are
a
wide
variety
of
of
demographics.
K
So
then,
getting
back
to
the
five
things
that
we
were
reviewing
last
time,
okay,
number
one
exploring
the
effect
of
modifying
the
tier
thresholds
to
be
higher,
allowing
higher
usage
before
being
billed
at
higher
rates
show
us
what
that
would
look
like
and
how
the
bill
compares
to
the
currently
proposed
threshold.
So
it
was
Michelle.
K
That
said,
she
would
have
liked
to
see
a
side-by-side
comparison.
I
guess
I
was
expecting
to
see
the
same
thing.
You
know
we
kind
of
asked
you.
Well,
these
tiers
seem
a
little
low.
It
seems
like
once
you
know
you
don't
have
to
use
that
much
water
to
get
to
those
higher
rates.
So
can
we
make
the
tiers
a
little
bit
more
Broad
and
and
higher
so
that
we
can
kind
of
spread
that
out,
but
I
wasn't
expecting
you
to
also
raise
the
rates
there
too.
K
A
So
if
we
like
I,
said
at
the
end
of
the
day,
which
we
need
a
certain
dollar
amount
of
Revenue,
so
if
the
users
that
were
in
the
tiered
system
of
up
to
3,
300
gallons
we're
paying
2.22
cents
per
thousand,
and
now
we
increase
that
up
to
the
number
you
up
to
4
500,
we
left
the
dollar
still
at
2.22
cents,
a
gallon
per
thousand,
there's
going
to
be
more
users,
paying
less.
So
at
the
end
and
the
same
thing
with
tier
two.
K
Well,
I
understand
that
so
I
think,
but
what
I
was
trying
to
see
like
and
what
we
discussed
last
time,
I
thought
was
just
adjusting
those
tiers,
leaving
the
rates
as
they
were
and
seeing
how
that
affected
the
bottom
line
and
then
taking
a
look
at
some
of
this
you
know
I
mean
is:
does
it
affect
us
minimally
with
how
how
these
Revenue
requirements
and
current
proposed
Revenue
graphs?
Look
you
know
or
or
so
that
we
can
make
things
easier
and
make
the
impact
easier
on
the
consumer
right
now.
K
K
Just
to
see
you
know
how
bad
would
it
really
be
for
water
sewer
for
the
Enterprise
funds
to
adjust
that
you
know
more
modestly,
okay,
so
number
two
eliminating
here's,
a
big
one:
okay,
because
this
one
really
had
me
going
for
a
while-
and
we
haven't
heard
anything
about
it
tonight,
eliminating
the
authority
given
to
the
water
sewer
division
to
raise
rates
up
to
five
percent
per
year
without
approval
of
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
across
the
board.
The
consumers
in
attendance
did
not
want
this
policy
where.
K
K
You
think
you
work
hard
slept
in
his
car
for
three
days
after
the
phone
call
that
we
got
from
you
that
we
were
going
to
owe
the
county
thousands
of
dollars,
so
I'm
not
ready
to
say
that
I
want
the
county
to
have
the
authority
to
raise
those
rates
for
the
water
sewer
division
up
to
five
percent
per
year
without
anybody's
approval,
I
think
that's
a
huge
misstep.
Have
we
gotten
anywhere
with
that
or
you
guys
still
want
that.
A
K
To
have
that
Authority,
like
I,
said
my
husband
worked,
probably
60
hours
of
overtime
in
three
days
after
the
phone
call
we
got
in
January,
so
you
know,
and
he
has
to
like
stay
alive
at
his
job.
So
sleep
is
kind
of
important,
but
I
think
you
guys
really
need
to
take
a
step
back
and
say
you
know
what
we've
made
some
wrong
decisions:
let's
let
the
Commissioners
do
their
job,
if
they're
not
going
to
do
their
job
like
they
had
some
hadn't
since
2016.
K
the
Public's
going
to
know
about
it
because
stuff
like
this
is
going
to
happen
and
we're
going
to
know
who
the
Commissioners
were
that
were
on
the
board
when
those
things
were
not
done.
Okay,
so
take
that
heat
off
yourselves,
even
establishment
of
of
an
advisory
committee
for
water
sewer
division
matters.
Let's
do
it
I
think
you've
heard
it
again
and
again
that
that
needs
to
be
done.
Has
there
been
any
discussion
of
how
that
would
roll
out
or
anything
like
that?
Yes,.
K
Okay,
so
establishing
a
committee
I
hope
that
goes
better
than
like
sending
out
postcards.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
I'm
not
trying
to
be
too
funny
here
when
I
say
that,
but
like
come
on,
get
it
together.
Like
let's
get
this
committee
going,
it's
been
a
couple
weeks
since
we
last
met
it's
easy:
it's
not
hard!
Look
it
up,
that's
all
get!
You
got
our
names
and
our
numbers
right.
There
get
get
five
of
us
together:
okay,
Improvement
of
communication,
so
we're
on
four.
Don't
worry
guys!
K
I'm
almost
done
for
improvement
of
communication
utilization
of
mailings
website
announcements,
social
media,
to
keep
the
public
informed
on
any
changes
updates
easily
without
the
public
having
to
dig
for
the
information
by
tuning
in
to
the
public
hearings.
Okay.
So
if
I'm
going
to
rate
you
on
how
you
did
with
this
meeting,
I
mean
you
guys
could
do
better,
I
mean
there
could
have
been
more
announcements
made.
I
didn't
get
my
postcard
I
mean.
That
was
the
biggest
mistake.
K
If
someone
didn't
tell
the
postman
and
definitely
put
it
in
someone's
mailbox,
it
shouldn't
be
mine,
right,
I,
didn't
get
a
postcard
and
I
looked
every
day
so
and
then
also
commercial
is
not
here,
they're
not
represented,
they
don't
even
know.
What's
going
on,
I've
made
some
calls
to
commercial
businesses
in
the
area,
hair
salons
that
I
know
are
going
to
be
greatly
affected.
K
K
Also,
the
number
five
what
we
listed
last
time
was
provide
the
consumers
with
data
such
as
what
is
the
current
debt
situation
to
help
the
public
better
understand
the
rate
increases
and
what
the
Enterprise
price
funds
are
paying
for
and
why
so
that's
going
back
to
the
little
graph
here,
the
green
little
bar
up
there.
We
don't
know
what
things
are
I
think
it
was
asked
a
few
times.
What
is
the
overall
current
debt?
Why
are
we
in
that
debt?
What
happened?
A
Yeah,
as
far
as
the
debt
goes,
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
drivers
of
that
over
the
past
couple
years
was
an
increase
in
salaries,
because
the
salaries
went
up
for
all
of
our
employees
on
Enterprise
front
side,
but
the
revenue
to
pay
it
didn't
so
that
had
to
be
covered
from
somewhere.
So
that
came
out
of
the.
K
And
then
you
got
it
so
that
was
part
of
it
I
get
it,
but
then
you
have
to
pause
there.
Look
at
that
decision
who
made
that
decision
and
hold
them
accountable.
Has
that
happened?
Tell
us
about
it,
so
you
know
what
there
this
happened
this
year
put
us
in
a
bad
situation.
Now
we
had.
You
know
this
was
the
outcome
and
that
person
has
been
held
to
task,
and
this
is
how
we
know
it
won't
happen
again.
None
of
that
happens.
It's
just
like.
K
E
D
Commissioner
Cox
thank
you
for
coming.
I
do
want
you
and
the
board
to
know
that
most
people
I
talked
to
got
their
postcards,
Friday
or
Saturday
for
a
meeting.
That's
tonight
so
I
suspect
the
16
people
that
are
here
kudos
to
them,
but
a
lot
of
people
just
didn't
know
and
I
think.
Maybe
a
follow-up
meeting
might
be
useful
because
of
that
a
couple
things:
debt
never
pays
for
salaries.
So
I,
don't
think
you
meant
to
say
that
Jr,
but.
D
The
the
operating
cost
pay
for
salaries,
and
you
know
that
Don
did
a
schedule
of
all
the
debt.
Just
so
you
know
the
the
future
debt
of
the
division
and
she
scheduled
it
out
to
2029,
which
is
what
our
CIP
has
is:
96
million
five
hundred
and
forty
eight
thousand
nine
nine.
Eighty
two-
that's
might
not
exactly
agree
with
the
book.
D
I
think
she
found
a
few
things
that
were
different,
but
that's
not
just
the
debt
for
2024,
but
that's
the
debt
through
2029.,
that's
a
big
number,
the
825
000
Water
and
Sewer
Utility
Billing
upgrade
for
some
reason
is
shown
as
a
water
cost
I.
Don't
know
why
it
wasn't
split
between
water
and
sewer,
but
that's
the
green
bump.
D
You
know
you
guys
might
want
to
look
at
your
model
and
move
that
I.
Don't
think
it's
fair
to
make
the
water
customers
pay
for
the
new
Billing
System
I
think
it
should
be
split
between
water
and
sewer.
Since
it's
billing
both
a
couple
other
notes,
the
water
rates
answer
rates
were
increased
in
2021.
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
think
it
might
have
been
a
CPI
increase,
but
I
think
there
was
an
increase
in
2021.
D
J
J
Well,
you
know
we
were
supposed
to
nearly
audit.
They
were
never
done
so
everybody
knows,
that's
cost
is
going
up.
So
that's
you
know
even
there,
but
you
know
we've
got
to
do
something
about
that.
We
have
had
a
lot
of
emails
from
the
commercial
side,
so
they're
not
left
out
completely.
We
have
had
a
lot
a
lot
of
emails
from
the
commercial
side
and
we're
listening
to
them.
J
J
N
Hey
my
name
is
Pat
Sanders
I'm,
Prince
Frederick,
just
a
communication
comment
here:
I
was
looking
at
your
slides
and
try
to
make
it
very
simple
quotes.
It
seems
like
it's
about
a
50
gallon
a
day
denomination
that
you
guys
are
using.
Is
that
correct,
as
you
talk
about
how
we
figured
out
well
I,
said
4,
500
gallons
over
a
quarter
90
days
and
quarter
well?
That
would.
N
So
and
if
you
keep
going
50,
gallons,
200
gallons,
1200
gallons,
those
are
the
tiers
per
day
right.
So
communication
wise,
if
you
had
a
little
graphic
in
here
just
one
little
page
shower-
is
17.2
gallons,
which
I
just
looked
up
on
the
internet,
dishwasher,
6.1,
gallons,
washing
cycle,
five
gallons,
every
flush
of
the
toilet,
1.5
gallons,
you
see
what
I'm
getting
at.
D
C
N
Get
a
good
feel:
oh
every
day,
I
take
a
shower.
I've
got
two
kids
to
take
showers,
all
of
a
sudden
I'm
in
tier
two.
That's
that's
what
the
communication
suggestion
is.
I
think
it
would
make
things
much
more
obvious
to
people
instead
of
just
seeing
a
number
of
4
500
gallons,
it
would
actually
reflect
how
does
my
daily
usage?
How
would
I
be
impacted
by
this
deer?
That's
all
I've
got
to.
H
I
H
B
I
A
Building
software,
from
my
understandable,
give
a
better
Bill
more
similar
to,
like
you
see
for
your
electric
bill,
more
information
easier
to
read.
That's
separate
from
the
meeting
system
that
we
discussed
earlier.
Those
meters
are,
we
would
be
looking
at
for
the
advanced
meeting
would
allow
I
was
to
read
them
from
our
office
without
having
to
drive
out.
It
would
also
allow
the
customer
to
sign
up
for
a
portal
and
be
able
to
read
their
own
meter
on
their
mobile
device.
I
A
I
Fantastic,
okay
and
then
just
a
few
opinions,
I
agree
with
the
others
that
the
automatic
five
percent
increase
should
not
be
in
place.
This
should
be
something
that
is
up
to
our
elected
officials
every
year
year
over
year,
I
know
it's
difficult
when
you're
working
with
elected
officials,
but
all
the
same
I
do
think
it.
It
should
be
for
our
elected
representatives
and
then
also
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
guys
for
coming
out
tonight.
I
D
C
A
O
K
G
K
Group
I
kind
of
have
a
lot
of
them
and
you
know
a
full-time
job
and
two
kids
and
all
that
stuff.
But
you
know
I've
been
making
a
lot
of
announcements
through
my
own
personal
Facebook
page,
which
I
can
be
found
online,
Sherry,
magarossi,
Verdin
and
I
kind
of
do
that
through
my
own
page.
But
that
is
something
that
I've,
considered
and
and
yeah.
Maybe
I
could
do
that.
Maybe
I
could
set
up
a
group
on
Facebook
for
any
water
sewer
posts
or
anything
like
that.
So
not
a
bad
idea.
Thanks.
A
I
mean
the
the
other
thing
you
do
you
can
do.
Brenda
is
I,
know
we
post
stuff
on
Calvert,
County,
government,
page
and
I
know
this
meeting
was
posted
on
there.
We
also
have
our
website
for
water
and
sewer
under
Calvert
County
md.gov,
there's
a
link
on
there,
where
you
can
click
to
get
information
when
we
update
the
web
page
and
so
forth
like
so
that
might
be
also
beneficial
for
anybody.
H
A
Thank
you
with
that.
I
mean
I
appreciate
our
coming
out.
We
we
do
want
to
hear
from
you
with
you
believe
it
or
not.
We
do.
It
is
difficult
to
sit
on
the
side
of
the
table.
Sometimes
I
will
agree
with
those
statements,
but
either
way
we're
here
and,
and
would
you
believe
it
or
not?
We
are
looking
out
for
your
all's
best
instruments.
A
Ultimately,
we'll
be
somewhat
of
a
proposal
made
to
the
commissioners
and
when
that
happens,
I'll
definitely
be
a
public
notice.
It'll
definitely
be
in
the
paper
because
it
will
be
a
public
hearing.
I'm
going
to
be
advertised
on
the
websites,
so,
like
I,
said,
go
to
our
website.
Sign
up
for
the
survey
check
out
the
rate
calculator
sign
up
for
getting
more
information
and
we'll
we'll
use
that
to
get
information
out.
A
N
N
F
Just
a
couple
other
comments
said:
Terry
schreffer
again,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
a
rate
study
that
shows
out
what
your
objectives
are.
What
are
your
capital
projects?
What
do
they
cost?
What's
your
objective
in
the
tier
rate
system
other
than
it's
just
the
thing
to
do.
Are
you
looking
for
a
certain
amount
of
water
savings,
or
are
we
just
doing
it
because
everybody
else
is
doing
it.
A
C
A
F
K
A
A
K
K
A
K
Know
I
have
to
disagree
with
you
Jr,
because
you
know
I
do
not
feel
that
communication
is
difficult.
Okay,
I,
don't
especially
in
this
day
and
age
I.
Don't
so
I
think
that
we
gotta
just
really
I
mean
get
our
heads
wrapped
around
it
I
mean
even
another
postcard.
If
you
really
want
to
know
what
the
consumers
are,
thinking
send
that
postcard
out
get
it
to
everyone,
make
sure
that
they
know
they
can
log
on
send
the
email
to
whatever
database.
K
A
C
A
A
A
M
M
M
A
M
A
We
currently
have
it
the
majority
of
our
customers
into
lower
tiers
and
I
realize
that
affects
the
businesses,
but
no
matter
what
it's
going
to
affect
the
businesses
more
than
it's
going
to
affect
the
residents
because
they
use
more
water.
So,
no
matter
what
their
bill
is
going
to
go
up
more
than
those
in
the
lower
tier
right.
M
A
A
And
my
staff
are
in
an
odd
position
here
to
try
to
do
this
right
and-
and
we've
stated
before,
and
so
is
commissioner
Cox
that
you
know
if
previous
boards
would
have
made
the
decision
to
just
do
smaller
increases
over
time
right,
I,
don't
think
we'd
be
sitting
here
having
this
conversation,
but
now,
all
of
a
sudden
it
needs
to
be
done
and
we're
looking
at
a
large
increase
and
nobody's
happy
with
any
of
us
and
decisions
made
six
eight
months.
Well,
I!