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A
A
A
Here,
thank
you
and
commissioner
Edsel
will
lead
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
Please.
C
C
A
Next
item
is
our
consent
items
which
consists
of
our
Planning
Commission
many
minutes
from
the
last
meeting.
Are
there
any
questions,
concerns
Corrections?
A
And
I'll
say:
okay,
so
that
was
seconded
by
commissioner
Davidson
and
first
by
commissioner
Murphy.
So
please
vote.
A
B
E
Good
evening,
chair
vandermeulen
and
fellow
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Mitchell
Morrison
I'm,
an
assistant
planner
here
at
the
Department
of
Community
Development
this
evening,
I'll
be
presenting
tentative
track
map
t6080
for
the
existing
Camarillo
Village
Square
shopping
center,
we'll
start
with
the
location
you're
familiar
with
the
location.
It's
at
the
southeast
corner
there
lasposus
Road
and
our
Neil
Road.
E
E
Here's
a
view
of
the
project
site.
It's
an
aerial
shot,
it's
a
20,
Acre
Site!
So
it's
pretty
big
I
put
an
aerial
in
here.
Just
so
you
could
see
the
entire
site.
Big
picture.
Looking
south
over
Los
poses
Drive
the
existing
tenant
inventories
well
recognizable
to
all
of
you.
There's
anchor
tenants
there
and
Starbucks
and
Ross
and
Rite
Aid
Sprouts
Market
major
tenants
that
we're
all
familiar
with.
E
So
how
did
we
get
here
in
1962,
the
Ventura
County
Board
of
zoning
adjustment
granted
a
planned
development
permit
PD
219,
for
what
was
then
called
the
Los
poses
Village
shopping
center.
It's
a
predated
incorporation
of
the
City
of
Camarillo
in
1964.,
then
in
1998
the
Planning
Commission
approved
a
request
to
extend
and
to
expand
and
remodel
the
existing
retail
Center
under
commercial
plan,
development,
138
and
the
Forum.
E
Where
are
we
going
so
for
purposes
of
lease
sale
or
conveyance?
The
proposed
project
is
to
subdivide
the
existing
parcel
map
into
a
commercial
tracked
map.
Now
the
proposed
tracked
map
will
create
eight
lots
of
varying
sizes,
but
they'll
all
total
to
22.45
acres,
which
is
the
existing
size.
So
the
proposed
map
will
result
in
no
physical
effect
on
the
existing
buildings
or
site
improvements
and
the
subject
properties
already
served
by
existing
roadways.
Access
drives
water
lines,
sewer
lines
and
drainage
facilities.
E
Nap
stands
for
not
a
part,
so
they're
at
the
Northwest
part
of
the
project
site
is
the
existing
Starbucks,
that's
not
a
part
and
then
at
the
southwest
corner
there.
It's
also
not
a
part,
and
if
this,
if
you
approve
vote
to
approve
that
little
parcel
there
on
the
west
would
be
included
in
the
new
proposed
map,
so
I
put
a
little
animation
in
there
to
make
it
clear
that
that
parcel
would
be
included
in
the
proposed
subdivision.
E
E
The
largest
of
the
proposed
Lots
is
lot
7.
and
then
in
the
middle
here
in
the
toward,
the
north
is
lot
eight
in
terms
of
Ingress
and
egress,
which
is
important
to
the
project.
Under
the
subdivision,
map
act,
there's
currently
Ingress
and
egress
from
our
Neil
Road
here
and
there's
a
second
and
a
third
means
of
Ingress
and
egress
from
our
Neil
and
then
there's
a
means
of
Ingress
and
egress
from
Los
poses
Road
here
on
the
North
in
terms
of
the
conditions
of
approval,
I
wanted
to
highlight
a
couple
of
those
and
I'll.
E
So
there's
conditions
of
approval
on
it.
There
are
in
your
agenda
packets
and
they
require
formation
of
a
commercial
Owners
Association
to
manage
the
common
space.
So
it's
currently
under
one
ownership
and
if
the
subdivision
is
approved,
then
it
creates
these
new
lots
and
the
commercial
Owners
Association
would
be
responsible
for
maintenance
of
shared
parking,
landscape
and
utilities
and
on
page
three
of
the
agenda
report
in
paragraph
three,
there
is
an
error
and
that
says
that
the
shopping
center
currently
requires
100
111
parking
spaces
and
provides
1125
spaces.
E
So
it's
switched
around
in
the
agenda
report,
but
in
actuality
the
the
shopping
center
provides
more
parking
than
is
required,
so
the
the
shopping
center
has
a
surplus
of
14
parking
spaces.
So
the
two
numbers
in
the
Agenda
Report
on
Aid
page
three-
are
just
switched.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
in
here.
So
just
with
the
point
being
that
the
they
meet
parking,
they
actually
exceed
the
parking
requirements
so
by
14
spaces.
E
What
staff
reviewed
is
in
in
this
project
was
a
little.
It
was
unique
in
the
sense
that
there's
already
a
commercial
shopping
center
there
so
we're.
When
staff
was
reviewing
this,
we
were
looking
to
make
sure
that
the
newly
created
Lots
would
meet
the
zoning
ordinance
requirements
for
lot
size,
building
coverage,
lot
depth
and
lot
width.
So
this
is
a
I.
Won't
go
over
all
these
numbers
in
detail,
but
they're
in
your
agenda
reports.
E
So,
in
terms
of
suggested
actions,
the
path
forward
from
here
staff
recommends
finding
that
the
project
is
categorically
exempt
from
siqua
staff
recommends,
adopting
a
resolution
recommending
approval
of
the
tentative
tract
by
the
city
council,
subject
to
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval,
with
the
clarifications
and
consistency,
modifications
and
the
action
of
the
Planning.
Commission
is
final
unless
an
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
the
action.
A
F
Yeah
now
I'm
on
so
in
the
in
a
worst
case,
sort
of
nuclear
meltdown
version
where
the
new
owners
who
buy
all
these
Lots
don't
get
along
and
they're,
not
pro
they're,
not
abiding
by
these
covenants
and
the
place
just
really
starts
to
become
an
ice
or
wet
recourse.
Or
what
tools
can
staff
explain
to
me
what
tools
they
will
have
to
ensure
enforcement
of
of
it
so
that
it
does
I
mean
it's
beautiful
now,
I'd
like
it
to
stay
that
way.
Thank
you.
B
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
take
that
one,
so
we
will
have
a
commercial,
the
commercial
Owners
Association
that
we
can
rely
on
for
any
maintenance,
or
you
know,
upkeep
of
the
common
area
there
for
the
individual
Lots
themselves
a
building
we
they
still
have
to
follow
our
the
city
standard
on
that
one
on
the
individual
ones
themselves,
but
typically
it
would
be,
and
if
there
was
any
complaints-
or
you
know,
I,
guess
infighting
or
pointing
fingers
of
who's
doing
what
that
would
we'd
be
able
to
revert
back
to
the
commercial
Owners,
Association
and.
F
My
question
wasn't
so
much:
what
can
we
do
about
the
infighting
it's
more,
the
the
end
result
if
their
inability
and
I'm
not
suggesting
that's
going
to
be
the
case
but
face
it.
It
happens.
You
know
if
the
development
itself
starts
to
deteriorate,
and
so
the
the
parking
lot
is
hasn't
been
sealed
and
and
striped
in
forever,
and
and
so
it's
literally
crumbling.
What
what
can
we
do
about
the
physical
manifestations
of
the
the
failure
of
the
COA
to
to
take
action?
Can
that
does
the
city
have
any
teeth
to
basically.
G
B
Yes,
absolutely
actually
our
Code
Compliance
division.
It
routinely
inspects
all
the
properties
twice
a
year
at
least
driving
through
so
they'll
pick
that
up
and
be
able
to
you
know
through
our
you
know,
Code
Compliance
process
basically
make
them
aware
of.
You
know
that
there
is
a
deficiency
there,
that
they
have
to
correct
and
work
out
a
time
frame
for
them
to
do
that.
C
Question
two
yeah
I,
so
would
it
be
set
up
like
a?
Is
it
going
to
be
an
HOA,
or
is
it
just
going
to
be
more
of
an
informal
agreement
between
the
owners
because
I'm
thinking
the
only
thing
in
town
that
I
think
we
can
compare
it
to?
Is
the
commercial
property
off
Pickwick
and
it's
never
been
upgraded
because
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
a
a
structure
they
have
do
you?
C
But
there
are
times
where
you
know
some
of
the
owners
wanted
to
upgrade
the
center
and
they
couldn't
get
consensus
on
it.
So
I
mean
in
this
agreement
should
should
that
be
part
of
it
that
the
owners
can
can
vote
if
it's
time
to
upgrade
the
center,
and
you
got
a
couple
of
the
owners
saying
that
they
don't
want
to
participate
for
financial
reasons
or
whatever.
B
B
C
H
Thank
you.
First
I
want
to
appreciate
the
staff's
due
diligence
in
processing
the
application
and
the
steps
that
you've
taken
already
to
ensure
the
the
maintenance
and
the
Aesthetics
and
safety
of
the
commercial
center
moving
forward
and
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
so
quickly.
Turning
around
in
response
to
the
the
redlined
version.
In
response
to
my
comments
and
feedback,
I
know
that
you
have
a
lot
on
your
plates
and
I
was
very
impressed
by
that.
H
I
also
want
to
know
in
response
to
the
former
question
there
is
currently
now
in
paragraph
22.
The
project
conditions
can
be
modified,
terminated
at
any
time
in
accordance
with
applicable
law.
So
that's
another
tool
that
the
city
has
is
that
right.
H
E
They're
before
I
answered
that
I
want
to
identify
special
condition.
37
and
I
just
want
to
make
like
a
big
picture
comment.
So
typically
subdivisions
come
before
the
the
plan
development
is
built.
E
So
typically,
a
developer
comes
in
and
builds
a
a
sub
that
builds
a
subdivision,
they'll
record
a
tracked
map
and
then
build
the
buildings
in
this
case,
there's
already
a
commercial
shopping
center
there
that
was
approved
under
the
plan
development
permit
cpd138,
so
staff
put
in
condition
37
to
state
that
all
the
previous
conditions
that
are
under
that
plan
development
permit
apply
to
the
New
Lots
created
by
this
subdivision.
So
that's
really
what
ties
in
those
previously
approved
Landscaping
plans
that
are
referred
to
in
condition
14..
E
E
And
we
yeah
staff
visited
the
site
today
and,
in
collaboration
with
the
applicant
identified,
a
list
of
con
maintenance
items
with
regard
to
the
Landscaping
to
bring
it
into
conformance
with
the
landscape
plan
is
approved.
H
Great
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
yep
and
lastly,
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
commercial
Owners
Association,
and
also
the
governing
conditions,
covenants
and
restrictions
that
are
referred
to
as
the
ccnrs
to
provide
further
maintenance
moving
forward
and
ensure
the
the
Integrity
of
the
commercial
center
without
inconvenience
to
the
public.
H
E
I'd
say
one
of
the
most
convenient
aspects
of
this
is:
is
that
the
shopping
center
currently
exists.
I
I
know
there's
a
number
of
other
shopping
centers
that
are
undergoing
substantial
Renovations
for
this
ones.
It's
really
more
maintenance
of
existing
conditions
and
the
disruption
to
the
public
would
I
think
be
minimal,
because
there's
no
change
to
the
existing
buildings
and
the
long-term
maintenance
of
the
Landscaping
can
be
performed
without
disruption
to
like
commercial
operations
and
it
it
can
be
done
in
phases
to
to
minimize
disruptions,
the
the
shopping
center
and
the
current
tenants.
B
If
I
could
just
kind
of
add
in
a
little
bit,
the
commercial
Owners
Association
will
basically
is
the
city's.
You
know,
Assurance
that'll
still
function
the
way
it
is
correct
right
now
currently
and
it'll
continue
to
function.
That
way,
you
know
in
all
aspects
of
landscaping
the
access
and
the
the
the
you
know,
the
the
maintenance-
and
you
know
the
the
parking
areas
and
all
that
stuff.
C
I
had
kind
of
a
follow-up
on
that,
too,
is
part
of
the
Lots
being
split.
Are
they
going
to
have
to
you
know,
disconnect
utilities
so
that
you
know
they
can
be
separately
metered
on
each
lot
or
is
that?
Are
they
going
to
identify
some
common
things
it'll
be
paid
through
the
association.
I
I
I
believe
that
most
of
the
units
already
actually
have
their
own
meters,
because
each
one
of
the
tenants
is
charged
for
their
own
utility
usage.
Okay,.
A
A
E
A
E
A
So
on
this
then
I
mean
well,
seven
has
a
couple
separated
buildings
and
we've
got
walkways
in
between
some
of
the
buildings
right,
but
so
they
would
be
doing
all
of
the
landing
all
the
parking
lot
and
stuff
like
that.
Even
if
it's
on
a
separate
lot
individually,
but
then
the
building
maintenance
themselves
would
be
to
the
owners
of
the
separate
Lots
if
it
needed
Roofing
or
servicing,
or
you
know
anything
that
it
needed.
Sidewalks
needed
fixing
or
anything
like
that.
That
would
be
to
the
separate
owners.
A
Okay
and
then
anything
like
if
there
are
any
trip
and
falls
on
the
sidewalks,
that
liability
would
go
to
the
separate
owners.
A
A
A
C
In
an
office
condo
thing
as
well
and
there's
different
square
footages,
and
so
they
are
HOA
is
you
know
we
pay
for
the
all
the
commentary,
but
we're
everybody
has
a
different
HOA
amount
based
on
the
square
footage
they
own,
and
so
then
I
think.
That's
probably
I
think.
There's
companies
that
calculate
that
that
would
probably
probably
work
that
out.
A
A
A
So
we
might
get
some
clarification
on
that
in
a
little
bit.
But
okay,
if
that's
all
of
the
questions
for
right
now,
then
I
will
I
will
open
up
the
public
hearing
and
see
if
we
have
some
presentation
from
the
applicants
and
in
case
we
have
any
other
questions
to
ask
also
a
little
bit
more
clarification.
Maybe
on
this.
J
Good
evening
my
name
is
Randy:
Chapman
I
represent
CCE
Design
Associates
we're
the
applicant
representing
the
owner.
Brett
Bernard,
with
Milan
capital
I
want
to
address
a
couple
of
concerns
that
were
brought
up,
I
think
the
first
one
being
the
fact
that
there's
eight
separate
Lots
I
can
understand
a
concern
that
there
might
be
potential
for
maintenance
to
be
deferred.
I,
think
the
kind
of
the
flip
side
of
that
would
be
Having
Eight,
separate
owners.
G
I'm,
chairperson,
I'm
sorry
to
interject
I
apologize,
sir,
before
public
testimony
can
be
received.
The
commission
has
to
make
a
motion
to
open
the
public
hearing,
which
must
be
second.
F
A
One
please
vote.
J
Kind
of
what
I
was
saying
before,
if
you
have
eight
separate
owners,
you
might
have
one
or
two
that
need
attention,
as
opposed
to
the
entire
site.
If
that
entire
site
were
to
change
ownership
down
the
road,
so
I
think
it
actually
might
be
a
benefit
to
have
multiple
owners.
In
that
case,
if
maintenance
is
a
concern,
the
other
thing
I'll
bring
up
is
the
ccnr
is,
will
go
through
a
review
process
at
the
city.
J
So,
as
far
as
any
of
these
concerns
about
how
things
are
going
to
be
maintained,
how
things
are
going
to
be
handled
with
the
commercial
Owners
Association,
the
city
will
have
a
chance
to
look
at
that
before
that's
finalized,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
that
can
kind
of
be
worked
out
in
the
details.
I'd
like
to
introduce
Brett
as
well.
K
K
We
have
no
formal
presentation
ready
for
questions,
but
I
would
like
to
address
as
Randy
just
did
a
number
of
items
you've
already
brought
up.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
go
out
of
my
way
to
thank
staff
for
their
input
throughout
this
process.
It's
been
a
lengthy
process
longer
than
we'd
hoped
for,
but
they've
been
meticulous
in
their
preparation
and
responsive
to
us
throughout
the
process,
and
so
we
appreciate
your
fortitude
and
your
Counsel
on
getting
us
to
this
point
tonight.
So
thanks
very
much
to
staff.
K
For
this
quickly,
we
own
Milan
Capital,
owns
through
various
partnership
groups,
joint
venture
groups,
a
number
of
other
commercial
centers,
quite
a
few,
as
a
matter
of
fact.
We
own,
for
example,
Tuscany
Square
and
Moore
Park.
So
we
own
a
couple
here
also
in
in
the
county.
We
have
done
similar
track
maps
for
those
we
still
own
that
Center
we
we
are
a
successor
with
this
Center
will
continue
to
do
it.
K
It's
not
like
we're
going
to
have
eight
separate
ownerships
out
there,
or
do
we
for
the
other
centers
that
we
own,
but
we
do
have
the
parcels
formulated
primarily
for
financing
purposes
going
forward
and
the
opportunity
if
there
is
an
opportunity
to
spin
off
a
portion
of
the
site,
but
generally,
even
though
we
have
tracks
with
on
within
our
commercial
centers,
they're,
still
wholly
owned
by
either
ourselves
or
or
a
partnership
group
that
we
are
participate
in
in
terms
of
one
of
the
Commissioners
that
asked
about
infighting.
K
How
did
the
property
be
epcapped
that
again
is
handled,
as
was
covered
by
staff
through
the
ccnrs
and
COA,
the
commercial
Owners
Association?
Yes,
for
example,
the
buildings
themselves,
the
sidewalks
directly
in
front
of
those
buildings
are
responsible
for
whoever
owns
that
building.
However,
the
common
area
is
Landscaping
the
road
of
travel,
both
walking
and
cars
throughout
the
site.
Those
common
areas
are
maintained
by
the
COA
and
the
ccnrs,
and
one
of
the
conditions,
as
as
commissioner
Limon
in
her
condition,
suggested
this
afternoon.
K
The
refinements
sort
of
addressed
that,
in
terms
of
yes,
they
are
to
be
handled
in
mass,
and
it's
not
only
is
the
ownership
group
responsible,
but
the
mechanism
walking
aside
today
well
not
only
with
code
Your,
Community,
Development
staff,
but
also
code
enforcement
staff.
That
also
remains
in
place
going
forward
for
handling
any
issues
out
there.
If
there
were
a
separation
of
eight
different
parties
out
there,
you
would
go
after
the
COA,
but
also
the
individual
ownership
group.
So,
as
Randy
pointed
out,
it
actually
gives
you
this
process.
K
You
actually
can
go
after
two
groups,
then,
to
make
sure
that
any
deficiencies
going
forward
are
are
handled.
As
Paul
pointed
out,
we
did
meet
this
afternoon.
We've
had
an
exchange
with
staff
for
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
Not
only
are
the
conditions
that
were
added
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
repeated
in
the
in
the
site,
development
plan
that
have
been
added
to
this,
so
we're
satisfied
that
that
any
deficiencies
any
Aesthetics
out
there
will
be
handled
and
they
are
being
handled
number
of
items
that
we
looked
at
today.
K
As
we
pointed
out,
the
staff
are
already
in
different,
either
with
engineering
with
public
works
or
being
worked
on
and
planned
for
now
too.
So
those
are
in
place.
We
want
to
have
this,
be
a
A
showpiece
in
the
community,
so
we're
working
to
to
upgrade
and
make
sure
that
we
are
consistent
with
not
only
requirements
from
this
action
and
but
also
with
the
current
conditions
of
approval
foreign
we
did
read.
K
Not
only
did
we
agree
with
before
the
the
previous
had
a
condition
of
approval,
but
we
had
an
opportunity
to
read
the
red
line,
strikeout
that
was
provided
this
afternoon
and
we
agreed
to
those
changes
to
them
a
little
tighter.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Landscaping
and
walking
the
site
today.
It
is
not
up
to
I,
did
have
a
chance
to
drive
other
centers
in
in
the
community,
and
it's
not
up
to
Landscaping
standards
up
by
several
nearby
in
the
community.
K
So
we
we
look
to
upgrade
those
I
would
point
out,
as
we
spoke
with
Mitchell
and
Paul
this
afternoon,
that
the
Landscaping
we
hope
to
do
out
there
to
improve
it
will
not
match
what
was
approved
in
1998..
It's
going
to
adhere
to
Modern
sensibilities
and
standards
such
as
more
drought,
tolerant
plants
than
than
are
there
now
and
should
not
be
there
going
forward,
not
only
in
terms
of
water
safety,
just
water
savings,
but
in
terms
of
just
a
new
refresher
look,
so
that's
one
thing
we're
going
to
be
working
on.
K
K
I
think
I've
handled
everything
that
the
questions
that
I
heard
before
but
remain
available
for
any
more
questions.
The
council
may
have
a.
F
Hi,
thank
you
for
that.
I
I
continue
just
to
be
concerned
and
I
appreciate
your
comments
about
your
organization,
maintaining
it
now
but,
as
we
know,
the
economy,
changes
and
intentions,
change
and,
and
it
a
scenario
in
which
there
are
multiple
owners
could
occur.
So
with
that
sort
of
scenario
in
mind,
the
the
bylaws
that
will
govern
this,
this
COA
are
they
already
in
place.
Are
there
are
there
things
that
the
city
has
seen
I
know
we're
talking,
the
ccnrs
are
there.
But
what
about
how
this
this
organization
is
even
run?
F
F
You
know
basically
with
a
shoe
box
and
collect
money
from
each
owner,
and
you
know
old
man
Jeffries
who
bought
it
as
an
investment
wants
to
do
nothing
box
at
it
and
now
we're
in
litigation,
and
you
guys,
you
know
so
I'm,
just
I
I'm,
sorry
that
I
keep
going
to
these
doomsday
scenarios,
but
it
that's
one
of
the
things
that
you
don't
anticipate
that
then
10
20
years
from
now
are
affecting
our
community.
So
can
you
one
talk
about
that?
F
K
Want
me
to
take
it:
okay,
yeah,
the
mechison
place
is
as
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was
one
of
the
staff
or
one
of
the
Commissioners
alluded
to
before.
There
is
a
process
in
place.
You
have
disparate
sizes
of
buildings
out
there
and
areas.
K
It
is
typical
with
the
HOA
that
you
described
for
your
commercial
entity
where
your
office
is
based
upon
a
number
of
factors,
not
just
size,
but
each
pays
into
a
common
fund
for
maintenance,
and
so
that
is
how
the
the
upkeep
is
kept
up
is
through
that
that
that
funding
mechanism
that
everyone's
required
to
pay
into
on
a
on
a
normal,
usually
monthly
basis
to
make
sure
the
fund
is
there
to
do
it
and
again,
the
city.
K
If
that
group,
the
COA
that's
formed
with
the
ccnrs,
is
not
adhered
to,
those
the
city
would
come
after
the
COA
and
also
the
individual
owner,
but
in
terms
of
the
common
areas
you
would
come
after
the
COA,
but
there
is
a
funding
mechanism
to
make
sure
that
this
takes
place.
It's
a
very
good
question.
Thank.
F
D
K
Commissioner,
Murphy,
that
that
is
the
case
in
that
you
have
a
a
you
know:
a
long-term
fund.
You
also
have
a
short-term
fund
that
handles
those
types
of
of
concerns.
Long
going,
you
have,
you
know,
a
mechanism,
a
deposit
account
where
you're
planning
for
slurry
sealing
the
the
parking
lot
every
five
years
or
whatever
the
normal
period
is,
but
you
also
have
an
emergency
fund,
for
you
know,
damage
God
forbid,
you
know
tornado
or
something
like
that.
That
would
come
through.
K
A
You
have
any
additional
I,
don't
know
what
was
I
going
to
ask.
A
On
these,
because
they're
going
to
be,
then
separate
owners,
ownerships
and
looking
at
accounts
and
Reserve
accounts.
When
it's
something
like
this,
where
there's
several
ownerships,
do
they
set
up
their
individual,
like
reserve,
accounts
and
accounts
for
funding
to
maintain
their
buildings
and
the
part
that
they
have
to
maintain
yeah.
K
That's
again
worst
case
scenario:
we
don't
Envision
presently,
then
they're
being
eight
separate
owners.
But
if
that
were
the
case,
I
can't
speak
to
each
individual
ownership
and
how
they're
going
to
handle
their
Reserve
accounts.
But
the
COA
and
the
ccnrs
will
require
a
common
fund
that
they
have
to
pay
into.
So
if
they
want
to
finance
that
whatever
they
want
to
do
as
an
individual
into
that,
I
can't
speak
to
that.
But
the
the
the
common
maintenance
areas
would
be
paid
into
a
general
fund
via
the
zoa.
A
K
The
intent
is
not
to
separate
either
a
Camarillo
Village
Square
or,
for
example,
Tuscany
Square,
where
we
we
took
a
smaller
center
and
subdivided
it
into
five
areas
that
we
still
own
in
in
Mass,
but
it
just
again
provides
for.
If
we
want
to
do
something
with
a
certain
building
within
that
larger
space,
we
can
finance
that
separately
as
opposed
to
having
to
finance
and
have
the
entire
entity
be
responsible
for,
for
that.
K
So
I
think
the
concerns
I
I,
understand
you're
concern
but
again,
I
think
the
mechanisms
Place
both
the
the
requirements,
the
conditions
of
approval,
but
also
the
requirements
with
the
COA-
are
such
that
those
concerns
will
be
handled,
especially
with
code
enforcement.
Again,
staff
identified
a
number
of
concerns.
They
had
out
there
not
just
Landscaping,
but
some
physical
improvements
that
have
not
been
kept
up
to
Snuff,
and
so
that
is,
that
would
be
brought
not
only
to
the
individual
track.
Owner
of
that
would
be
brought
to
the
COA.
K
A
So
right
now,
even
though
it
did
mention
that
they
could
be
sold
or
transferred
or
something
you're
not
foreseen,
these
individual
individual
Lots
being
sold
separately,
no.
K
A
K
And
that
doesn't
mean
that
there
won't
be
issues
in
the
future.
It's
like
a
vice
chair,
Edsel
referred
to
his
his
office,
his
business
living
in
a
condo-wise
situation.
That
doesn't
mean
you're
not
going
to
have
one
person.
Somebody
alluded
to
you
know
miserly
Jones,
that
the
association
may
have
to
go
over
that
one
owner
in
terms
of
you've
not
paid
in
if
it
were
divided
in
the
future,
and
you
had
three
owners.
K
Four
owners,
eight
owners
there
that
want
that
the
mass
wouldn't
have
to
go
after
the
one
I
I
can't
promise.
That's
not
going
to
happen.
It
shouldn't
happen,
but
the
mechanism
in
place
that
they
could
enforce
that
they
paid
their
percentage
into
the
maintenance.
So.
A
Okay,
all
right
so
with
no
other
questions.
Thank
you
thank
you.
So
then
we
didn't
receive
any
public
comments.
Did
we
Okay?
So
then,
if
there
are
no
other
questions,
I
think
we
can
close
a
public
hearing,
but
if
we
needed
a
motion
to
open
it,
then
I
do
we
also
need
a
motion
to
close
okay
motion
to
close.
C
H
There
is
one
one
issue,
I
think
I'm,
going
to
end
up,
reversing
myself
on
a
suggested
edit
we've
been
talking
about
the
common
and
non-common
areas
on
condition,
34,
it's
pertained
to
owners
of
the
properties,
and
now
this
is
this,
goes
to
regularly
and
promptly
removing
graffiti
and
maintenance
series
and
clean
and
attractive
conditions,
Etc
and
I.
Think
that
was
intention
is
that
this
would
run
to
the
owners
of
the
the
non-common
areas.
Is
that
right?
And
if
so,
then
it
should
revert
back
to
the
owners
and
not
inserting
this
into
the
COA
and
ccnrs?
I
This
should
actually
I
believe
be
both
I
think
we
would
include
it.
I
mean
this
is
covered
in
many
places
it's
covered
in
the
city's
Municipal
Code.
It
should
also
be
covered
in
the
ccnr
so
that
it
runs
with
the
land,
and
then
it
should
also
be
subject
to
each
individual
owner
as
well.
Great.
B
Resolution
number
PC
2023-10
resolution
of
the
Planning
Commission
of
the
City
of
Camarillo,
recommending
approval
to
the
city
council
of
a
request
by
CCE
Design
Associates
Incorporated
to
subdivide
22.45
acres
into
eight
Lots
located
south
of
Los
poses
Road
and
East
of
our
Neil
Road.
In
the
city's
commercial
plan.
Development
Zone
further
described
as
t-6080.
C
C
B
It
was
a
resolution.
Part
of
the
resolution
got.
A
I
A
B
C
B
Well,
maybe
the
second
meeting
in
May
we'll
have
our
picture
day
so
so,
but
we'll
send
out
plenty
of
notice.
So
we
don't
spring
it
on
you.
The
night
of
okay.
A
B
Then
also
we
have
items
tracking
for
all
three
of
the
next
meetings
that
we
have
regularly
scheduled:
the
April
18th
May,
2nd
and
May
16th.
So
we
we
still
have
a
bunch
of
items
coming
your
way
that.
A
A
The
only
thing
I
would
have
liked
to
have
had
was
the
outline
map
that
further
better
def
delineated
the
different
Parcels
you
know
to
look
at
when
I
was
looking
at
it,
because
to
me
it
was
like
the
buildings
and
not,
and
then
what
was
the
extra
was
Lottie
like
all
the
extra
land,
so
to
me,
I
mean
I
would
have
loved
to
have
had
that
other
page
showing,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
work
put
into
this
a
lot
of
last
minute.