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Description
The second in a series of webinars being hosted by our Greater Cambridge Shared Planning service colleagues. This webinar focuses on exploring the numbers of jobs and homes to be planned for.
A
Good
afternoon,
everyone
and
hope
you're
all
well
welcome,
along
to
our
second
webinar
for
the
great
cambridge
plan.
First
proposals:
it's
lovely
to
have
you
all
here
and
thank
you
for
joining.
Welcome
back
those
who
have
been
at
these
sessions
before
and
welcome
to
those
of
you
who
are
new
and
haven't
been
to
the
sessions
before
we've
got
an
hour-long
session
today,
which
is
on
our
jobs
and
homes,
and
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
introduce
you.
I've
got
a
plan
off
here
here
this
morning
to
help
answer
some
questions.
A
We're
going
to
do
a
few
slides
talk
a
little
bit
about
homes,
do
a
couple
of
interactive
sessions
as
well
and
then
leave
some
time
for
questions
at
the
end
and
please
feel
free
to
ask
questions
in
the
q
a
as
we
go
through
the
the
webinar,
because
our
panel
will
do
our
best
to
answer
as
many
questions
as
possible
during
the
during
the
presentations
as
well,
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
quickly.
First
is
I'm
going
to
gonna
unshare
my
screen,
I'm
gonna
introduce
you
to
the
panel
and
they
can
introduce
themselves.
A
Man
thanks
for
joining
us
and
just
a
couple
from
me,
so
we've
also
got
will
smith
and
tim
cliff
in
the
background
here
running
all
of
the
tech
this
morning.
So
so
you
know
do
my
big
thanks
to
them,
because
without
them
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
this.
My
name's
paul
freyno,
I
am
the
assistant
director
for
strategy
and
economy
and.
A
Of
the
session
and
I'm
going
to
hand
over
to
caroline
he's
going
to
start
walking
you
through
the
first
slides,
so
here
we
go,
and
I
hope
that
you
can
all
see
my
screen
again,
so
we
have
got
a
fairly
comprehensive.
We
hope
session
for
you
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
we
need
to
plan
for
development
a
little
bit
about
modeling.
A
As
I
said,
we
will
have
a
bit
of
a
couple
of
interactive
sessions
so
to
try
and
get
you
involved
in
in
your
thoughts
as
well
and
some
other
thoughts
from
others
on
what
happens.
If
we
don't
plan
enough,
we
will
bring
it
together
at
the
end
and
have
some
questions
and,
as
I
said,
if
we
don't
get
to
any
questions
within
time,
anything
that
we
haven't
already
got
on
our
faqs
on
the
website
will
be
put
up
in
due
course.
So
without
further
ado,
I'm
going
to
hand
over
to
caroline.
D
D
So
clearly,
the
environmental
side
of
things
is
is
absolutely
key,
but
the
term
sustainable
development
actually
has
three
aspects
to
it.
It's
also
about
an
economy,
because
a
successful
economy
provides
us
with
all
the
products
that
we
require
to
live
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
Doesn't
it
as
well
as
providing
our
work
that
sustains
us
as
individuals.
It
also
provides
the
goods
and
services
that
we
need
to
live
day-to-day
and
there's
also
a
social
and
community
aspect
to
sustainable
development.
D
I
think
it's
also
worth
saying
at
the
outset
that
we,
in
terms
of
our
planning,
the
planning
process
and
planning
system,
we
have
a
plan
led
system,
and
that
means
that
the
local
plans
and
other
development
plans
that
local
planning
authorities
prepare
set
out.
The
policies
against
which
planning
applications
are
ultimately
judged.
So
it's
really
important
that
we
engage
effectively
with
our
communities
and
all
stakeholders
in
the
plans
we
prepare,
because
that
plan
will
set
the
framework
against
which
planning
applications
are
ultimately
judged.
D
So
it
identifies
how
much
development
it
identifies
where
that
development
should
go
and
the
policies
against
which
that
development
will
be
proposed
proposed
development
will
be
judged.
So
this
is
the
stage
that's
really
important
to
to
engage,
because
once
the
plan
is
set,
it's
the
basis
for
determining
planning
applications
so,
but,
but
also
we
don't
start
with
a
blank
sheet
as
as
planners
as
local
planning
authorities.
D
We
we
have
to
work
within
national
planning
guidance
which
is
set
out
in
the
national
planning
policy
framework,
sometimes
called
the
nppf,
and
the
framework
sets
out
very
clearly
for
us
what
we're
required
to
do
as
as
planners
and
the
local
plan
that
we
prepare,
which
is
a
development
plan.
It's
a
statutory
plan,
it's
a
plan
that
has
legal
weight
in
making
decisions.
So
it's
really
important
that
that
plan
is
sadly
prepared
and
ultimately,
it
gets
tested
as
an
examination
by
an
independent
inspector.
D
So
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
follow
the
required
policies
and
requirements
in
setting
out
our
plan,
because,
ultimately,
it
needs
to
be
found
sound
in
order
to
be
able
to
have
weight
and
perform
its
job
in
providing
that
planning
framework,
and
the
framework
says
that
we
must
provide
for
our
objectively
assessed
needs
for
housing
and
other
uses,
and
I
think
the
word
objectively
assessed
is
is
important
as
well
as
it's
our
needs.
So
what
does?
What
does
that
mean?
We'll
come
on
to
to
that?
D
This
is
also
really
important
unless
any
adverse
impacts
of
doing
so
would
significantly
and
demonstrably
outweigh
the
benefits
bit
of
a
techy
phrase.
But
what
that
basically
means
is,
if
meeting
your
needs
once
you've
identified
them
would
have
significant
harm
and
that
could
be
against
all
sorts
of
different
considerations,
but
we've
particularly
identified
the
issue
and
challenge
of
water
supply
in
this
area,
we'll
be
picking
that
up
in
a
future
webinar.
D
But
you
know
we're
really
clear
that
providing
our
needs
is
dependent
on
having
sufficient
water
supply,
because
otherwise
the
significant
impacts
of
doing
so
would
be
significant.
So
that's
the
sort
of
considerations
we
have
to
weigh
as
we're
preparing
our
plans,
so
the
principles
we
need
to
follow
set
out
in
the
framework
are
that
we
must
determine
the
minimum
number
of
homes
needed
and
our
policies
must
be
informed
by
a
local
housing
need
assessment
conducted
using
the
standard
method.
It's
described
as
in
national
planning
guidance.
But
that
says
just
to
be
really
clear.
D
D
So,
when
we
start
to
think
about
greater
cambridge
now
in
terms
of
jobs
and
homes,
we
have
a
pretty
unique
economy
here.
Actually
it's
internationally
significant
in
terms
of
the
strengths
in
some
key
sectors,
I
mean
many
of
you
will
know
that
we
have
the
genome
campus.
For
example,
we
have
the
cambridge
biomedical
campus,
really
important
companies
nationally
and
internationally
here.
So
you
know
the
companies
that
mapped
out
the
the
genome,
companies
that
astrazeneca,
for
example,
on
the
biomedical
campus,
so
really
important.
D
Companies
in
in
this
area
come
here
because
they
cluster
and
they
benefit
from
that
location
close
to
each
other
and
greater
cambridge
sits
at
the
heart
of
three
economic
corridors.
So
the
oxford
cambridge
corridor
is
the
one
that's
been
talked
about
most
recently,
but
also
the
corridor
down
to
london.
D
That
includes
the
stansted
area
within
it
and
also
out
to
norwich
as
well,
and
it's
been
identified
that
there's
really
been
sustained
long-term
growth
in
this
area
and
the
combined
authorities
recently
commissioned
independent
economic
review,
sometimes
called
spear
for
short,
really
identified
the
importance
of
the
greater
cambridge
area
in
in
supporting
economic
growth,
both
locally
but
also
nationally.
So
it's
a
really
flourishing
area
and
we
have,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
also
have
a
mixed
economy
that
includes
a
wide
range
of
jobs.
D
It's
not
just
those
high-tech
type
jobs.
It's
also
everything
from
teachers,
nurses,
doctors,
people
who
work
in
the
shops,
people
that
clean
our
shops
and
premises-
and
you
know
the
whole
range
of
jobs
to
maintain
the
success
of
the
area,
while
still
also
maintaining
our
area's
global
reputation
for
innovation.
D
But
some
of
that
has
comes
at
a
cost,
so
we
know
that
there
are
really
high
house
prices
in
this
area.
We
know
that
affordability
is
a
real
issue.
Both
you
know
for
many
of
you
and
your
families
and
the
councils
take
this
really
seriously
and
how
we
address
that
that
issue
and
just
fallen
off
the
screen
there
or
my
screen
anyway
also
impacts
around
significant
longer
distance
commuting.
D
So
if
we
don't
provide
enough
homes
in
this
area
and
people
have
to
commute
from
elsewhere,
that
has
impacts
on
house
prices,
but
it
also
has
impacts
on
climate
change
through
carbon
emissions,
so
a
range
of
issues
there
that
we
need
to
bring
together
and
the
way
we've
chose.
We
think
we
should
approach
that
the
way
we've
approached
that
on
the
next
slide,
please
paul
is
to
look
at
how
we
how
we
look
at
this,
the
levels
of
growth
that
are
important
to
you
provide
for
here.
D
So,
as
I
said,
the
government
sets
the
sta
a
method
for
calculating
standard,
a
standard
method
minimum.
So
we
thought
okay.
Well,
it's
really
important
in
an
area
of
high
economic
growth,
to
understand
how
many
jobs
that
will
support
and
we've
done
that
and
then
we've
looked
to
understand
well,
depending
on
that
level
of
jobs.
Growth
and
stuart
will
take
you
through
that
in
in
a
moment,
but
if
the
forecast
jobs
based
on
detailed
evidence
for
our
area
is,
is
more
than
the
number
of
homes
that
the
standard
method
would
provide.
D
D
D
B
Thanks,
caroline,
so
taking
really
the
the
higher
that
caroline
talked
about
just
now,
which
was
starting
with
the
forecast
jobs
based
on
evidence
for
greater
cambridge
and
then
trying
to
understand
if
additional
homes
are
required
to
support
those.
So
that's
what
we're
looking
at
here
so
we're
just
thinking
about
the
jobs
to
start
with
and
to
provide
a
bit
of
context.
B
B
It
is
uncertain
that
the
employment,
land
and
economic
evidence
base,
which
sets
out
this
stuff
in
detail,
acknowledges
that
it
is
challenging.
Clearly.
Nobody
knows
the
future
and
the
the
evidence
base
acknowledges
the
challenges
of
confirming
both
historic
jobs
and
then
trying
to
look
ahead
as
well.
B
But
the
aim
is
to
look
at
all
the
available
evidence
to
get
the
best
understanding
of
what
the
future
could
be,
and
I
would
say
that
clearly,
as
we've
said
before,
it's
necessary
tasks
that
we've
got
in
front
of
us,
even
if
it
is
difficult.
We've
already
said
that
we
need
to
identify
and
provide
for
objectively
assessed
needs
the
issues
caroline's
flagged
about
housing.
Affordability,
for
example,
show
the
importance
of
understanding
that
relationship
between
homes
and
jobs
and
there's.
B
B
So
that's
the
jobs
there
is
the
homes.
Obviously,
the
aim
was
to
understand
how
many
homes
might
be
needed
to
support
those
jobs
and
clearly
there's
a
whole
report
which
is
going
on
housing
and
employment
relationships
report
which
sets
us
out
in
detail,
but
very,
very
roughly
starting
with
jobs
and
moving
to
workplace
population.
The
people
working
in
those
jobs.
A
key
point
is
commuting
patterns
where
those
people
come
from
when
they're
traveling
to
work,
you
then
get
to
resident
population,
resident
households
and
finally
homes
and
flagging
that
point
about
commuting
plans.
B
We
did
explore
that
in
detail.
I
guess
a
default
assumption
would
be
that
census.
2011
patterns
continue.
We
also
explored
a
different
assumption,
such
that
all
the
additional
homes
generated
by
the
forecast
jobs
that
we
got
on
the
left
above
those
supported
by
the
standard
method.
Minimum
homes
would
be
provided
in
full
within
greater
cambridge,
and
we
explored
those
two
assumptions
and
our
conclusion
was
to
identify
a
housing
forecast
associated
with
that
most
likely
jobs
forecast
and
on
the
basis
that
we're
seeking
to
minimize
that
longer
distance
commuting.
B
You
can
see
there's
the
highest
scenario
there
too,
and
that's
a
significant
number
of
jobs.
Over
and
above
what
we
see
is
the
most
likely
so
78
700
and
a
bigger
number
in
homes
again.
We'd.
Note
that
even
that
high
scenario
isn't
as
high
as
what
was
suggested
might
come
forward
in
the
independent
economic
review.
B
Even
though
you
can
see
it's
a
very,
very
considerable
number
of
homes
and
jobs.
As
I
say,
we
have
identified
that
what
we
think
the
most
likely
scenario
for
jobs
and
our
homes
need
to
support
that
as
being
our
objectively
assessed.
Need
for
jobs
and
homes,
the
key
point
just
to
end
on
really
is
that.
B
Obviously
these
are
big
figures,
but
we
already
have
a
big
supply
of
jobs,
employment,
land
and
homes
committed
in
the
adopted
local
plans,
so
that
these
numbers,
you
see,
you
need
to
subtract
that
supply
to
get
to
the
numbers
that
we're
planning
for
later
in
the
in
which
caroline
will
touch
on
later
in
the
plan.
So
these
are
big
numbers,
but
you
need
to
subtract
the
commitments.
These
aren't
all
new
homes
needing
to
be
found
I'll
pass
you
back
to
paul
now
for
the
interactive
session.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
caroline
as
well.
It's
really
comprehensive.
I
just
just
noted
that
a
little
bit
of
the
tech
on
one
of
those
slides
there
isn't
showing
on
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
I
think
that
we're
just
trying
to
fit
so
much
information
onto
some
of
these
slides,
that's
the
problem.
The
deck
will
be
shared
alongside
the
recording,
so
we'll
be
able
to
pick
that
up
anyway
there
and
as
and
you
know,
I
suppose
you
know
the
you
know.
The
background
of
that
is.
A
A
Yes
and
as
as
stewart
said,
what
we're
going
to
try
and
do
now
is
we're
going
to
try
and
have
a
little
bit
of
an
interactive
session
to
get
you
thinking
and
break
it
up
slightly
from
us
talking
at
you
all
the
time
and
so
we're
going
to
use
something
called
mentometer.
And
so
we've
used
this
once
already
before.
It
worked
pretty
well
and
you
should
be
able
to
see
my
screen
now,
which
shows
the
mentee,
the
venti
logo
and
where
you
need
to
go.
A
Last
time
people
didn't
have
access
to
the
to
the
slides
they
couldn't
log
in
so
you
can
do
it
one
of
two
ways:
you
can
just
put
your
camera
on
that
qr
code
and
it
will
take
you
to
the
right
place.
I
think
you
have
to
have
a
certain
type
of
smartphone,
but
it
should
do
it
if
you
have
problems
with
that.
Alternatively,
you
go
to
www.menti.com
and
type
in
that
code,
which
is
8562,
and
it
will
take
you
to
this
mentee
screen.
A
So
when
we
move
to
the
next
level,
which
I'm
going
to
do
right
now,
it
should
be
enabled
you
should
be
able
to
see
the
top
of
the
screen
the
code,
and,
let
me
know
if
you
can't
do
that
and
we'll
just
type
it
into
the
q
a
so
I'm
going
to
ask
you
this
question
and-
and
you
can,
you
know,
put
as
many
answers
in
as
you
want
for
this,
but
it's
just
to
get
our
minds
thinking
as
well,
and
so
do
you
do
you
think?
Bearing
in
mind
this
is
the
webinar
topic
today?
A
Do
you
think
that
it's
important
to
plan
for
enough
jobs
for
enough
homes
and
if
you
do
think
so?
Why
do
you
think
that
is,
and
I
might
come
to
the
panel
for
some
of
their
own
thoughts
on
this?
You
know
as
we're
going,
but
I
don't
want
to
lead
people,
but
if,
if
you
start
typing
into
the
mentee,
they
should
come
up
on
the
screen,
we
can
talk
through
them
as
they
as
they
come
through.
So
so,
let's
come
to
you
stephen.
What
do
you
think
about
planning
for
jobs
and
homes?
E
Well,
I'll,
try
and
be
brief,
and
and
of
course,
if
you
don't
think
we
should,
I
think
it's
also
important
that
you
say
in
the
mentee
script.
Why
why
you
don't
think
we
should,
but
but
fundamentally
obviously,
we
have
an
obligation
in
many
respects
to
try
and
properly
match
the
infrastructure
and
the
elements
of
the
of
that
go
with
new
homes
and
and
jobs.
A
Yeah,
absolutely
I
mean
some
of
the
thoughts
coming
through
already.
You
know
highlight
some
of
the
you
know
the
some
of
the
detail
that
stu
was
giving.
You
know
homes,
you
know
and
jobs
come
hand
in
hand
together
at
the
moment.
You
know
there
are
some
questions
around.
You
know
the
future
of
working
and
what
we've
seen
through
covert.
But
you
know
at
the
moment
we
do.
A
You
know
we
do
them
very
much
together
and
affordability
is
another
another
key
one
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we
plan
for
things
in
the
right
places
and
I
think,
an
interesting
one-
there
is-
is
properly
plan
and
that's
a
really
good
point
and
that's
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
with
this
I
mean
in
the
uk.
We
are
a
plan
led
system,
so
you
know
a
real
focus
should
be
on
this
part
of
the
planning
process.
A
You
know
ensuring
that
we
get
the
right
framework
in
place
to
outline
at
least
you
know
where
we
are
putting
things
and
how
much
we
think
we
might
need-
and
you
know
you
know
in
terms
of
what
stewart's
saying
yes,
things
are
inherently
uncertain,
but
you
know
we
still
have
a
job
to
do
to
try
and
create
some.
You
know
some
buffer
of
certainty
around
it
and
there's
anyone
others
there
that
are
standing
out
others
on
the
panel
that
they
want
to
pick
up
on.
C
C
There
is
regional
planning
going
on
particularly
the
ox
cam
corridor
level
which
we'll
have
to
respond
to,
but
at
the
more
local
level
we
we
are
guided
nationally
to
respond
to
the
needs
of
the
area
through
our
planning
process.
We
do
need
to
address
what
our
needs
locally
are
as
well
as
responding
to
that
national
picture.
So
there's
a
there's,
a
complex
issue:
there.
A
A
You
know
that
our
plan
goes
to
2041,
so
you
know
we're
planning
for
people
who
you
know
you
know
who
are
working.
Who
will
be
working
that
aren't
they're
in
primary
school
now
you
know,
who
are
that
aren't
even
in
school,
would
be
planning
for
schools
that
the
people
who
aren't
even
born
yet.
So
it's
really
important
to
understand
that
you
know,
although
we
don't
know
the
answers,
we
have
to
look
at
what
we
have
known
historically,
take
that
with
trends,
and
then
you
know
and
then
really
understand
that
and
try
and
do
our
best.
A
A
As
part
of
our
consultation
to
take
these
all
into
consideration,
but
I
think
it's
really
nice
to
see
some
thoughtful
answers
coming
through
here
and
is
very
much
in
the
direction
of
travel
of
what
we
you
know
kind
of
think
about
when
we're
planning
this
stuff,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
come
off
the
mentee
now,
but
thank
you
all
for
engaging.
We
have
got
another
one
in
a
little
while
as
well.
I'm
gonna
stop
my
screen
share,
so
we
have
got
another
one,
a
little
one.
A
I'm
gonna
also
now
we're
gonna
move
back,
just
a
quick
slide
that
I
think
that
john's
gonna
touch
on
and
really
on.
You
know
trying
to
explain
what
would
happen
from
a
planning
perspective.
I
suppose,
if
we
didn't,
you
know
if
we
didn't,
if
we
didn't
plan
for
enough
homes,
so
john
can
hand
over
to
you,
and
hopefully
we
should
have
to
slide
that
back
up
and
go.
C
So
each
year
we
have
to
demonstrate
what
our
requirement
would
be
against
our
adopted
plants
working
how
many
houses
were
required
to
deliver
over
a
five-year
period
and
then
demonstrating
quite
a
lot
of
detail
about
all
the
sites
that
will
be
developed
all
the
houses
that
will
be
built
in
that
period
to
demonstrate.
We've
robustly
provided
a
housing
land
supply
to
that
will
deliver
those
homes,
so
the
consequences
of
not
doing
that
are
in
simple
terms.
C
We
lose
some
control
over
how
we
plan
in
the
district,
so
some
of
our
policies
will
be
given
less
weight.
It
may
mean
you
get
sites
which
aren't
necessarily
reflective
of
our
adopted
plan,
for
example.
So
it's
very
important.
We
have
an
effective
plan
which
demonstrates
how
we'll
meet
our
needs
where
and
when
it
will
happen
and
how
it'll
be
supported
and
so
on.
In
all
that
detail,
that's
really
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
do
our
plan
making
we're
thinking
about
some
other
consequences.
We
don't
plan
effectively
for
our
development
needs.
C
Clearly
it
wouldn't
allow
us
to
have
a
forward-looking
picture
of
what
infrastructure
was
needed,
so
the
transport,
the
schools,
all
the
other
things
you'd,
expect
to
see
coming
along
with
developments.
We
need
our
plan
to
be
in
place,
so
we
can
effectively
plan
with
all
our
partners
to
make
sure
they're,
also
being
planned
and
timed
to
be
available
when
they're
needed.
C
We
need
to
look
at
housing
affordability,
so
we
need
to
keep
our
supply
of
homes
coming
forward
because
everybody
knows
there
are.
You
know
significant
price
issues
around
the
cambridge
area
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
delivering
homes
to
do
our
part
in
helping
respond
to
those
issues
and
also
delivering
significant
elements
to
be
affordable,
housing
in
terms
of
employment
and
supply,
we're
required
to
maintain
an
effective
supply
of
employment
land.
C
So
it's
all
three
parts
of
sustainability,
rather
than
just
being
you
know
one
environmental
issue,
we
need
to
look
at
the
whole
aspect
of
sustainability
and
we
get
asked
a
lot
as
well
about
what
the
impacts
are
of
covid
and
brexit.
Clearly,
the
heart
going
under
taking
a
lot
of
change
happening
nationally.
At
the
moment
we
know
they
are
significant
issues
for
the
plan.
The
challenge
is
that
a
lot
of
the
impacts,
those
issues
are
still
becoming
clear.
A
lot
of
the
economic
results
are
still
being
known.
C
A
lot
of
the
forecasting
impacts
will
still
be
looking,
so
we
know
it's
something.
We
need
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
move
forward,
but
the
data
isn't
very
complete,
yet
we
don't
really
know
what
the
full
impact
of
cobit's
going
to
be.
For
example,
we
have
got
some
information.
The
slide
goes
on
to
talk
about
that.
There
has
effectively
been
periods
of
lost
growth
which
we'll
need
we'll
need
to
look
at,
as
the
data
actually
becomes
available.
C
C
We
also
get
asked
a
lot
about
what's
happening
regarding
changing
working
patterns
and
I
think,
like
everybody
else,
we
we
still
need
to
understand
what
the
picture
is
going
to
be
like
when
things
do
become
more
normal,
but
there
is
still
high
demand
for
workspace
around
the
cambridge
area.
That's
apparent
at
the
moment.
C
And
then
just
finally,
the
final
slide
from
this
section.
We
also
are
aware
of
water
supply
issues
that
are
important
for
the
planet.
We've
put
this
slide
in
several
of
our
presentations
because
it
it
is
an
important
issue.
We
know
there
are
issues
about
the
pressure
on
the
chalkboard,
where
a
lot
of
our
water
comes
from.
C
There
are
planning
process
in
place
by
the
water
industry
to
look
at
how
we
can
get
water
more
sustainably
to
deliver
in
the
future,
so,
for
example,
new
reservoirs
or
connections
up
to
other
areas,
but
that
planning
process
is
still
taking
place.
So
we
really
need
to
know
the
outcome
of
that
before.
We
fully
understand
how
our
plan
can
move
forward,
and
we've
been
very
clear
on
that
in
the
consultation
and
with
that
I
think
I'll
hand
back
to
paul
for
another
interactive
session.
A
Thanks,
thank
you
very
much,
john,
and
that's
helpful
to
have
some
context
from
our
perspective
as
well
and
yeah.
We
will
run
another
interactive
session
now
and
hopefully
you
enjoyed
the
last
one,
absolutely
excited
about
the
next
one.
I've
got
in
store
for
you
here
and
essentially
yeah.
It's
very
interesting.
Isn't
it
to
talk
about
sustainability
in
the
round
really
and
the
water
issue?
Obviously
we
know
that.
A
We've
actually
got
a
session
tomorrow
on
the
sites
but
next
week,
and
we
have
a
whole
session
dedicated
to
climate
change
and
and
the
water
issues
are
going
to
be
discussed
in
in
far
greater
detail
during
that
session.
So
I'm
going
to
move
to
this
next
mentee
and
again
same
process
same
code.
I
think
this
time,
which
is
quite
good.
I
think
we
we're
getting
the
hang
of
this
now.
A
So
what
we'd
like
you
to
do
really
just
quickly
is
to
rank
these
priorities,
or
these
five
particular
prior
priorities,
then,
in
terms
of
when
we're
planning
for
new
jobs
and
homes.
Now
we're
just
throwing
these
five
on
here.
You
know,
if
you
think
there
are
other
priorities
that
we
should
definitely
be
thinking
of,
then
please
put
them
into
a
q
a
we
can
stimulate
some
conversation
within
the
q,
a
within
the
q.
A
with
that.
A
But
you
know,
as
we've
said,
you
know,
don't
just
use
the
ones
next
to
us
and
you
can
see
that
our
our
plan,
our
whole
plan,
is
built
upon.
You
know
the
themes
that
we've
kind
of
gone
all
the
way
through
is
around
you
know
in
you
know:
inclusion
and
well-being,
climate
change,
biodiversity
in
great
places,
that's
structured
with
the
underlying
need
and
sustainable
need
to
provide
homes,
jobs
and
the
infrastructure
that
we
are
required
to
to
support
that
and
so
yeah.
A
A
C
So
I
think,
from
my
perspective,
if
you
try
to
pick
up
some
of
the
the
broad
issues,
I'm
noting
in
the
q
a
there's
an
awful
lot
of
other
issues
being
raised,
which
I
suspect
we'll
come
on
to
in
some
of
the
discussion.
If
we
haven't
answered
some
of
the
points
through
the
through
the
chat,
our
big
themes,
which
have
really
guided
the
structure
of
the
document,
really
you
try
and
almost
address
well
all
of
these
through
plan
making.
C
So,
as
you
know,
we
addressed
very
strong
policies
regarding
climate
change
in
terms
of
impact
on
natural
resources.
One
of
these
issues
on
sustainability
is:
we
need
to
demonstrate
that
in
meeting
our
needs,
we
have
considered
impacts
on
the
environment
and
you'll,
see
we've
prepared
a
significant
evidence
base,
looking
at
all
the
environmental
issues
that
inform
the
plan
and
whether
the
developments
can
be
met
in
a
sustainable
manner.
A
Yeah
absolutely-
and
I
mean
I
think,
it's
interesting
to
see
housing
at
the
top
and
inequality
and
poverty
at
the
bottom,
and
you
know
obviously
intrinsically
linked
in
that
respect.
So,
okay!
Well,
let's,
let's,
let's
move
through
the
last
slides,
because
then
we
can
pick
up
some
of
those
others
in
the
q
and
a
now
and
what
I'll
do.
A
D
Yeah
thanks
now
yeah
lovely,
thank
you
yeah,
so
justin
just
to
bring
it
all
all
back
together.
Then,
before
we
start
answering
some
questions
live
so
we've
identified
what
we
believe
to
be
our
need
for
new
jobs
and
for
new
homes,
we're
still
understanding
needs
for
gypsy
and
traveller
communities.
Clovid
has
held
up
that
particular
piece
of
evidence,
so
now
we
we.
D
We
do
believe
that
we
have
that
that
clarity
on
on
our
needs-
and
we
have
looked
as
to
how
we
provide
for
those
needs
so
on
the
next
slide,
and
I
think
I
think
this
comes
to
some
of
the
issues
that
are
coming
out
of
the
the
the
interactive
session
just
now
paul.
Could
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please,
because
I
think
we're
starting
to
move
into
into
the
strategy
and
where
we
provide
for
the
homes
and
jobs.
D
So
we
we're
going
to
try
to
stick
to
the
numbers
today
largely,
and
we
have
a
session
tomorrow
on
on
the
strategy
in
the
site.
So
please
do
come
back
to
that
session.
If
that's
something
that
is
particularly
of
interest
to
you,
but
it
is
important,
while
we're
talking
about
the
numbers
to
recognize
that
we
already
have
a
significant
amount
of
supply
in
our
current
plans
and
planning
permissions.
D
D
We
we
all
and
and
that's
in
our
current
plans-
and
we
do
think
it's
important
to
include
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
in
our
supply
because
things
don't
always
go
as
you
predict,
and
therefore
we
also
think
it's
important
to
include
a
buffer
around
about
a
10
bucket.
We
think
it's
a
reasonable
bottle
to
include
from
from
previous
experience.
D
So
that
means,
when
you
take
account
of
the
supply
that
we
have,
we
need
to
find
sites
for
around
another
eleven
and
a
half
thousand
more
homes
and
in
terms
of
the
strategy
that
we're
starting
to
look
to
which
very
much
goes
to
that
discussion.
Around
climate
change
being
high
up
your
list
of
important
considerations,
it's
very
much
about
where
development
goes.
That
helps
address
the
climate
impacts
of
development,
so
that
people
don't
have
to
rely
on
a
car
as
the
first
port,
the
point
of
transport
and
so
on.
D
So
we're
looking
to
make
the
best
use
of
the
sites
we
already
have
so
some
assuming
some
faster
delivery
at
nordstrom
water,
beach,
a
bit
more
development
at
eddington
and
and
new
sites
around
the
edge
of
cambridge,
so
northeast
cambridge,
cambridge
east
in
terms
of
housing
and
some
job
and
canborn
as
a
location
for
significant
further
growth
and
also
from
a
business
point
of
view
down
at
the
claims
by
medical
campus.
So
I'm
not
going
to
touch
in
any
more
on
that
today,
but
that's
a
a
bit
of
an
intro
to
tomorrow's
session.
D
So,
as
I
say,
please
do
come
back
if
you
are
interested
in
finding
out
and
engaging
more
with
us
on
on
that
issue,
and
I
just
to
say
in
terms
of
the
questions
we
will
try
to
run
through
as
many
of
them
as
we
can.
We
haven't,
given
you
written
answers
to
some
of
those
because
they're
perhaps
easier
to
talk
through
it
at
this
stage
and
then,
if
we
do
don't
get
through,
as
paul
said,
we'll
provide
some
written
responses
to
follow.
A
Yeah
thanks,
caroline,
and
just
as
you
know,
appreciate
that
people
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
make
in
person
all
of
these
sessions
or
virtually
all
of
these
sessions,
so
we
are
recording
them
all
and
we're
promoting
them
out
as
soon
as
we've
top
and
tails
kind
of
you
know
make
sure
that
they're
all
ready
to
go
they
go
live.
I
think
the
one
from
last
week
is
already
live
on
the
website.
This
will
go
live
as
soon
as
we're
ready
to
drop
it
and
the
game
tomorrow.
A
So
if
you
don't,
if
you
can't
make
it
or
you
know,
people
who
can't
make
it,
please
do
point
them
in
the
direction
it's
up
on
the
the
webs
right
on.
You
can
see
at
the
bottom
there
also,
if
you're
on
twitter
or
any
of
the
other
social
media
platforms.
If
you
hashtag
gc
local
plan,
it
will
bring
up
any
of
the
social
media.
A
That's
going
on
around
the
local
plan
at
the
moment
and
you'll
be
able
to
see
what's
being
uploaded
and
when
it's
being
uploaded,
and
so
please
do
that
as
well
and
so
yeah
we've
got
another
few
events
of
these
webinars
coming
up
and
but
obviously
there
is
a
full
event
program.
We
are
going
out
on
site
as
well
as
much
as
we
can,
and
so
please
do
join
us,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
now
is
I'm
going
to
move
over
to
actual
questions.
A
We've
still
got
quite
a
few,
so
we'll
move
to
the
move
to
the
panel
and
and
I'm
going
to
come,
and
I
haven't
been
able
to
see
the
questions
so
far
so
fast.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
big
surprise
to
me,
picking
them
up
now,
because
I've
had
my
screen
on
share
so
yeah.
Let's,
let's
go
through
some
of
these
right.
Let's
have
a
go,
and
I
won't
mention
names
that
you
are
able
to
post
anonymously
in
here
as
well.
A
If
you,
if
you
do
wish
to,
please
go
ahead
so
right
here
this
one.
Why
is
there
no
effective
limit
on
the
number
of
jobs
planned
in
the
first
proposed
resource
other
than
the
market's
ability
to
deliver
from
the
large
supplied
land
from
economic
development,
which
already
exists,
plus
the
new
allocations
proposed
in
north
east,
cambridge
and
elsewhere
by
2014.
D
I'm
happy
to
start
on
that
one,
if
that's
helpful,
so
it's
an
interesting
question:
isn't
it
and
I
think
employment
operates
in
a
slightly
different
way
from
housing.
So
this
is
an
area
that
has
been
very
successful
in
delivering
economic
growth
or
has
delivered
a
lot
of
economic
growth.
I
appreciate
you
may
or
may
not
think
that's
successful,
but
certainly
has
delivered
a
lot
of
growth,
and
particularly
in
some
sectors,
but
over
a
very
long
period
of
time.
D
I've
been
working
in
this
area
for
over
20
years
now,
and
we've
always
carried
a
very
significant
supply
of
employment
land
and
even
when
we've
been
delivering
jobs
at
a
fast
rate,
we
we've
never
used
up
all
that
supply
at
any
point
in
time.
So
I
think,
having
that
larger
supply
gives
some
flexibility
in
the
area
means
it
can
flex
with
the
different
economic
cycles,
and
it
also
means
there's
some
flexibility
in
the
location
for
development,
for
different
uses
and
and
and
their
needs.
D
I
think
there's
been
comments
in
the
in
the
chat
around
the
leveling
up
issue
and
I
think
that's
a
really
interesting
one,
because
whilst
government
has
recently
started
talking
about
leveling
up,
we
don't
know
quite
what
that
means,
or
quite
how
that
might
feed
into
policy,
but
they're
still
certainly
very
keen
to
see
economic
growth
around
the
country.
They're
very
keen
to
support
economic
growth
in
the
oxford
cambridge
arc.
D
The
combined
authorities,
independent
economic
review,
recognised
the
importance
of
greater
cambridge,
particularly
in
some
of
those
key
sectors
of
life
sciences
and
so
on.
So
it's
not
the
easiest
question
to
to
answer
and
there's
a
very
long
technical
report
that
matt
who's
on
the
call
here
and
team
authored.
D
But
what
they've
looked
to
do
is
to
really
try
and
understand
our
economy
and
our
sectors
and
how
they
perform,
how
they
have
been
performing
and
make
their
that
their
best
forecast
on
what
is
most
likely
to
happen
over
the
next
planned
period.
And
that
also
does
look
at.
What's
happened
over
the
recent
past.
So
you
know
there's
an
element
of
it
being
kind
of
scientific,
but
there's
also
an
element
of
there
being
a
bit
of
an
art
in
here
as
well.
F
The
framework
which
the
plan
is
measured
against
is
the
government's
own
framework
and
the
government
don't
have
a
process
for
setting
an
upper
limit
on
jobs,
but
what
they
do
expect
is
that
objective
evidence
is
prepared
to
allow
whoever's
examining
the
plan
to
feel
that
you
know.
A
proper
understanding
has
been
made
of
the
economy
and
the
best
planning
as
possible
has
been
made
to
kind
of
to
support
and
acknowledge
that.
F
So
I
mean,
I
think,
we've
as
has
been
sort
of
spent
a
lot
of
time,
trying
to
understand
the
economy,
look
at
how
it's
performed
in
the
past
and
how
that
might
influence
the
future.
And
then
the
plan,
as
it's
sort
of
moving
forward,
is
trying
to
you
know,
facilitate
growth
in
in
a
balanced
way.
You
know
there
could
be
ways
in
which
they
could
be
trying
to
push
harder,
but
I
I
think
it's
got
this
media
idea
of
medium
growth.
F
It
is
a
balanced
one
and
it's
one
which
ensures
as
the
plan
moves
forward.
You
know
it.
It
tries
to
support
growth
without
facing
very
much
criticism
that
actually
not
enough's
been
done
to
support
the
economy,
which
would
be
the
other
end
of
the
challenge,
as
that
plan
kind
of
gets
through
to
the
examination
process,
so
that
there
isn't
a
natural
kind
of
upper
limit
on
how
to
curtail
growth.
F
Although
maximizing
the
efficiency
of
land
is
obviously
important
and
a
lot
of
northeast
cambridge
proposals
do
seek
to
to
do
that
in
terms
of
brownfield
redevelopment
and
regeneration
same
time.
Cambridge
is
unique
in
its
national
and
international
status
as
a
place
where
some
kinds
of
activities
and
research
take
place
and
the
plan
is
sort
of
trying
to
ensure
that
that
could
continue
to
happen,
provide
research,
you
know
and
everything
around
healthcare
and
keep
its
kind
of
place
and
contribution
to
that
national
international
agenda.
C
I'll
just
add
to
that
one
quickly:
paul
I'm
also
noting
questions
about
land
supply
and
specific
references
to
figures.
The
other
issue
just
to
know
is
on
our
land
supply.
That
often
our
particular
land
supply
is
unusual
because
it's
made
up
of
a
number
of
large
sites.
So
we
end
up
with
large
numbers
where
sites
will
take
a
number
a
number
of
years
to
come
forward
and
that's
really
effective,
so
think
about
our
new
settlements.
Think
about
our
major
employment
parks
and
so
on.
C
They
mean
you
get
large
amounts
of
land
supply
which
is
carried
forward
that
meets
needs
over
a
long
period
and
that's
reflected
in
that
supply
and
another
issue
in
the
question
was
well:
do
we
effectively
unallocate
sites
and
the
answer
that
is?
Yes,
there
are
sites
in
the
first
proposals,
consultation
which
we've
identified
as
not
being
proposed
to
carry
forward
into
the
new
plan.
A
In
that
respect,
and
so
there
is
a,
I
think,
there's
a
vision
for
the
spatial
framework
for
the
oscar,
which
has
just
been
our
consultation.
I
think
it
closed
in
october
with
their
plans.
We
don't
know
whether
that's
going
to
go
forward
and
at
what
pace,
but
there
are
plans
to
bring
a
spatial
framework
forward
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
Now,
obviously,
we
work
as
closely
as
possible.
E
I'm
not
sure
anybody
could
make
sense.
I
I
I
was
I
I
couldn't
hear
you
fully,
but
yeah
well,
really,
just
to
add
to
the
point.
The
ox
cam
arc
and
the
spatial
framework
consultation
suggests
that
the
spatial
framework
will
provide
details
of
housing
overall
need
across
the
arc
and
potentially
locations
for
growth,
and
we
have
sought
clarity
on
what
that
translates
to
on
a
kind
of
authority
by
authority
basis.
I
think,
from
our
perspective,
our
approach
to
the
oxcar
mark
is
at
a
strategic
level.
E
It
recognizes
the
significance
of
places
like
greater
cambridge
and
the
significance
to
the
economy
to
the
country,
as
well
as
reflecting
an
ambition
that
the
higher
levels
of
environmental,
stewardship
and
performance
are
captured
in
future
growth.
Discussions
in
terms
of
numbers,
chris
pincher
has
previously
said
that
local
authorities
will
play
a
central
role
in
establishing
the
housing
needs
and
we
are
taking
that
at
face
value
at
this
moment
in
time.
We
have
a
very
substantial
and
we've
been
talking
about
it
this
morning.
E
We
think
a
very
well
for
through
justification
for
the
housing
numbers
that
we've
currently
put
forward.
But,
of
course,
we're
seeking
everybody,
including
all
of
your
views
on
that,
and
we
would
expect
quite
robustly
to
reflect
that
back
to
government
if
they
were
to
seek
to
do
something
different
through
what
can
only
be
a
a
much
higher
level
and
less
topic
and
an
area
specific
basis.
A
Thanks
stephen,
I
apologize.
I
hope
you
can
all
still
hear
me.
It
was
a
momentary
drop-off
on
it,
usually
pretty
good
at
this
time
of
the
day.
Okay,
so
another
one
here,
paragraph
61
of
mppf,
a
nice
technical
one
for
here
goes
straight
to
paragraphs
of
mdpf
and
says
exceptional
circumstances
justify
an
alternative
approach
which
also
reflect
current
and
future
demographic
training
trends
and
market
signals.
F
I
mean
I
can
attempt
to
answer
that.
I
mean
I
mean
the
latest
date
possible.
I
think,
is
the
answer
to
that.
So
the
the
evidence,
principally
regarding
sort
of
employment
and
demographics,
was
published,
I
think
autumn
2020
and
probably
dates
to
the
2018
population
projections,
which
was
being
used
by
cambridge
country
econometrics
at
the
time,
and
it
may
be
the
case
that,
as
the
plan
preparation
moves
forward,
further
light
touch
updates
to
the
evidence
that
that
is
issued,
which
was
which
keep
that
up
to
date.
F
So
I
I
think
it
it's
incumbent
and
the
authority
will
continue
to
use
the
latest
date
available
and
that's
the
the
inspector
will
will
be
looking
to
as
they
move
forward,
and
that
probably
relates
to
some
of
those
questions
on
sort
of
brexit
and
covid's.
That
things
are
always
changing
and
all
planning
authorities
will
try
and
present
them
the
latest
information
available
to
them
at
that
time
and
that
that's
only
what
what
can
be
reasonably
expected.
A
E
If
you
limit
the
land
available
in
greater
cambridge
for
life
sciences,
for
example,
or
some
of
the
digital
ai,
those
companies
will
just
go
to
other
areas
in
the
uk
and
there's
quite
a
strong
argument.
That's
made
that
that
isn't
necessarily
what
happens,
those
countries,
those
companies
will
go
to
other
parts
of
europe
or
indeed
to
other
parts
of
parts
of
the
world.
E
So
I
think
conceivably,
you
could
make
it
incredibly
difficult
or
you
could
try
to
make
it
incredibly
difficult
for
jobs
to
continue
to
be
created
in
this
part
of
the
world.
You
can
expect
very,
very
strong
pushbacks
from
uk
government
and
indeed
substantial
questions
about
further
investment
in
infrastructure
and
that
and
the
justification
for
it
recognizing,
for
example,
things
like
the
very
substantial
city
deal
that
cambridge
has
almost
disproportionate
in
terms
of
its
size
relative
to
other
city
deals
elsewhere,
which
reflect
the
government's
importance
given
to
places
places
like
greater
cambridge.
A
Just
quickly
before
you
do
john
I'm
going
to
bring
up
the
slide.
That
shows
how
you
can
get
involved
in
the
consultation,
we'll
take
another
one
or
two
questions
while
we're
waiting.
I
know
it's
slightly
over,
but
there's
quite
a
lot
still
to
go
on
and
happy
to
run
over
for
five
five
minutes,
but
I'm
going
to
bring
up
the
slides,
so
you
can
all
essentially
see
how
to
access
the
consultation.
A
C
So
any
case
you
make
would
have
to
be
based
around
that
clearly
in
putting
out
the
consultation,
we
think
we
have
addressed
or
explored
environmental,
social
and
economic
issues
and
come
up
with
the
right
strategy
for
the
area,
and
now
it's
for
people
to
comment
on
that
before
we
draft
the
plan.
So
we
very
much
want
to
hear
whether
we
got
it
right,
whether
we've
got
it
wrong.
What
do
you
think
we
should
do?
Instead?
That's
a
real
key
part
of
this
process.
A
That
people
have
changed,
you
know
slightly
how
they're
working
and
you
know
we're
all
working
still
at
the
moment.
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
you
know
understand
that
actually,
a
lot
of
modeling
has
to
be
a
little
bit
more
long-term
and
that
we
don't
know
what
trends
will
move
forward
or
what
will
hold
and
what
won't.
But
we
are
certainly-
and
we
will
be
doing
some
further
economic
work
over
the
next
year.
The
next
part
plan
making,
but
you
know
it's
important
to
remember
that
local
plans
are
also
iterative
processes.
A
A
It's
so
you
know
we
will
be
able
to
review
those
those.
You
know
those
policies
as
we
go
forward,
and
you
know
I
think
we
are
all
working
in
an
area
where
things
have
happened,
have
accelerated
kind
of
the
way
that
we
work
and
live
in
the
last
year
and
a
half,
and
you
know
we
have
to
be
cognizant
of
that,
but
we
also
have
to
be
cognizant
of
the
trends
develop
over
time
and
we
need
to
look
at
look
at
that
time.
A
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Caroline,
that's
a
you
know,
it's
a
difficult
thing
to
explain.
Okay,
everybody!
Well
we're
five
minutes
over,
so
I'm
going
to
stop
there.
As
I
say,
the
web
recordings,
the
recording
is
is
going
to
be
will
be
live
probably
by
the
end
of
the
week.
We've
managed
to
get
through.
You
know
huge
number
of
questions,
but
you
know
out
of
the
eight
remaining
we
will
get
those
that
haven't
been
answered
in
some
form
already
that
already
are
answered
on
our
website,
we'll
get
them
into
faqs.
A
A
I
really
like
to
thank
all
of
the
panel,
and
you
know
thank
you
for
all
of
your
thoughts
and
adding
to
the
content
matt,
especially
of
sam
you're,
not
part
of
our
direct
team.
Thank
you
for
coming
along
and,
as
I
say,
please
get
involved,
and
it's
really
important
that
you
know
you
communicate
your
views
on
this
stuff
and
you'll
see
on
the
website,
follow
the
hashtag
and
keep
coming
along
to
the
sessions.