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From YouTube: Local Plan online Q&A – First Conversation consultation and Call for Sites data release
Description
A recording of a public Q&A session on 22 September
A
Hey
good
morning,
everybody
and
welcome
to
the
second
of
our
great
cambridge
chair
planning
panel
sessions.
This
is
on
first
conversation
and
call
for
science
data
that
we
released
last
week,
and
we
had
one
of
these
sessions
yesterday,
which
is
very
busy
had
hundreds
of
people
here,
and
hopefully
we
get
the
same
today
I'll
run
how
the
session's
going
to
work
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
been
to
one
before
we're
getting
a
little
bit
used
to
these
now.
A
We
don't
get
to
today
we'll
put
on
the
website
and
put
answers
on
there
too,
and
if
you
go
to
the
website
there
will
be
all
of
the
links
and
faqs
of
questions.
We've
already
been
asked,
so
you
should
be
able
to
see
them
there
and
so
without
further
ado.
I
shall
go
around
the
panel
and
introduce
them
and
then
we'll
just
do
a
tiny
bit
of
housekeeping
before
we
get
on
to
the
presentation.
So
I'm
going
to
go
around
to
my
right
first,
unfortunately,
it's
not
a
table.
B
C
A
And
up
in
the
top
you've
got
joe
burnham
she's,
our
tech
wizard,
so
she's
doing
all
the
logistics
for
you
to
bring
it
bring
this
to
you
seamlessly.
So
so
thanks
joe
yeah,
as
I
said,
we've
got
an
hour,
so
there
will
be
time
for
questions.
There's
no
chat
function
in
the
box
down
the
bottom.
There
is
a
question
and
answer
function
and
you
can
put
your
questions
in
there.
You
can
ask
questions
anonymously
or
you
can
leave
your
name
on
there.
We
won't
be
telling
reading
out
anybody's
names.
A
Just
to
let
you
know
the
session
is
being
recorded,
so
you
will
be
able
to
view
it
back
on
our
youtube
channels
and
they
will
be
on
both
the
scdc
and
the
cambridge
city
websites,
and
also
on
our
greater
cambridge
shared
planning
website,
which
we'll
put
a
link
up
at
the
end.
So
without
further
ado,
I'm
going
to
hand
over,
I
think,
is
it
john
starting
first
and
hand
over
to
john
dixon
who's
going
to
start
the
presentation
for
you.
E
E
E
E
E
We
then
carried
out
a
pretty
major
consultation
exercise
in
january
february
earlier
this
year,
when,
hopefully
many
of
you
came
across
us
where
we
got
out
and
about
around
the
district,
we
published
some
key
questions.
We
needed
some
early
feedback
on
in
plan
making
and
ask
for
your
thoughts
through
various
ways
which
we'll
come
on
to
in
a
minute.
E
E
We'll
then
follow
that
up
with
some
further
engagement
again
with
our
key
stakeholders,
like
parish
councils
and
so
on,
residents,
associations
for
the
reigns
this
year.
The
next
key
public
consultation
stage,
however,
is
in
summer
autumn
2021
when
we
go
out
there
and
say
well,
having
done
some
of
that
work,
this
is
the
preferred
option
for
the
plan
and
get
full
engagement
feedback
on
that
from
the
public,
allowing
people
to
comment
on
the
proposals
and
the
ideas
the
councils
have
come
up
with
for
the
plan.
E
That's
not
the
end
of
the
public
consultation.
There
are
several
further
stages
that
you
see
on
our
diagram
there.
When
we
publish
the
draft
plan
and
then
the
plan
we
propose
to
submit
for
adoption,
there
will
be
full
chances
to
engage
at
that
point
as
well,
once
you've
been
through
all
through
all
those
consultations.
We
then
go
to
an
examination
when
the
plan
is
tested
by
an
independent
inspector
as
well,
and
they
eventually
write
the
report
and
say
whether
the
plan
is
sound
and
the
council
can
adopt.
B
Thanks
john,
so
yes,
as
john
has
just
outlined,
we
had
a
10-week
consultation
back
in
january,
which
was
pre-covered
luckily,
so
we
could
do
a
lot
of
getting
out
and
about
and
talking
to
people
about
what
they'd
like
to
see
and
so
forth.
The
focus
really
was
on
the
big
themes
that
might
shape
the
plan
going
forward
and
we
did
use
a
lot
of
different
methods
to
encourage
participation.
B
B
It's
really
important,
as
john
mentioned,
to
understand.
This
is
just
what
people
have
told
us
at
this
stage
is
only
the
raw
data
there's
no
conclusions
assessment
of
whether
those
comments
are
good
comments
or
bad
comments,
no
conclusion
of
whether
the
sites
are
suitable
sites
or
unsuitable
sites,
but
it
is
really
in
the
interest
of
us
in
transparency
terms,
are
some
publishing
for
you,
everything
that's
been
sent
to
us
that
we
possibly
can
accomplished.
B
There
is
a
little
bit
of
reduction
of
personal
data
in
accordance
with
our
privacy
statements,
we're
putting
back
in
the
public
domain,
as
you
probably
won't
know,
it's
all
available
on
our
website
and
then
the
full
submissions
are
in
our
consultation
system,
opus,
2
consult,
which
is
all
publicly
visible
from
there
as
well.
We've
also
published
excel
files
of
our
data
sets.
So
those
are
the
call
for
sites
the
call
for
green
sites
and
also
the
comments
received.
That's
again
in
the
interest
of
open
data
and
a
more
digital
approach.
B
Planning
means
that
you
can
download
those
you
can
filter
or
analyze
those
analysis
if
you'd
like
to
there's
also
an
interactive
map
which
is
linked
through
to
the
full
records
for
each
site.
So
if
you
find
your
site
you're
interested
on
the
map,
there's
a
link
there
that
will
take
you
through
to
the
full
site,
submission
and
likewise
the
other
way
around
and
pdf
maps.
For
those
of
you
who
might
be
more
interested
in
something.
B
Just
a
bit
about
what
we
got
back
from
the
first
conversation,
and
I
think
we're
really
excited
about
the
level
of
response
we
got
here
and
how
we
can
use
that
to
help
shape
the
strategy
going
forward.
We
had
over
eight
and
a
half
thousand
responses
which
we're
now
publishing
those
range
from
the
kind
of
quick
comments
that
people
could
leave
on
our
website.
B
This
slide
just
shows
you
a
few
more
of
the
the
kind
of
headline
statistics
about
the
reach
here.
So
you
know
we're
aware
that
some
people
wanted
to
comment.
Some
people
just
wanted
to
find
out
more,
and
I
think
that's
been
really
great
as
well
to
just
have
a
lot
more
available
online
for
people
to
learn,
educate
themselves,
get
up
to
speed
with
some
of
the
key
issues.
B
So
that
was
when,
when
we
asked
respondents
to
rank
the
four
big
themes
that
are
the
leaves
on
the
tree
in
this
diagram,
climate
changes
and
lots
of
other
things
associated
with
that
like
tree
cover
like
actually
the
design
of
development,
how
that
should
be
more
passive,
more
adapted
to
a
heating
climate
and
a
wetter
climate
in
the
future
came
along
with
that.
We
also
asked
you
to
rank
where
you
would
like
to
see.
B
It's
just
worth
saying
that
it
is
not
just
a
numbers
game
here.
It's
whilst
we
take
account
of
the
really
matter
and
the
points
made
so
we're
now
in
the
middle
of
a
full
analysis
of
those
comments
and
we'll
be
reporting
back
on
how
they've
been
taken
into
account.
How
they've
been
shaped
the
the
future
strategy
once
we
get
to
the
preferred
options?
Consultation
next
year,
just
a
little
bit
about
the
call
for
sites.
B
So,
as
many
of
you
will
know,
if
planning
for
some
time,
this
is
something
that
national
planning
guidance
says
we
should
do.
They
say
we
should
hold
a
call
for
site
suggestions
exercise,
but
we
also
look
for
other
sites
that
fit
our
spatial
strategies,
so
it
is
not
just
about
seeing
what
people
send
us
and
then
picking
out
of
that
pool
of
sites.
We
also
do
look
for
other
sources
of
housing,
land
supply
and
employment.
Land
supply
as
well.
B
It
is
worth
knowing
that
on
this
map,
obviously
we
have
many
many
more
sites
suggested
than
we
actually
need
for
development
going
forward.
So
it
is
a.
There
will
be
a
lot
of
narrowing
down
that
happens.
Over
the
coming
months,
we
received
around
16
000
hectares
worth
of
land
suggested
to
us
and
if
you
add
up
what
would
be,
it
equates
to
over
220
000
homes
and
over
5
million
squared
of
non-residential
floor
space,
comparing
to
what
we
might
need
to
plan
for
in
the
next
plan.
B
We
suggested
in
in
the
earlier
consultation
that
we
might
be
looking
at
between
5
000
and
30
000
additional
homes
on
top
of
what's
already
in
existing
plans.
So
that's
the
kind
of
green
pie
slice
on
this
chart
here
as
compared
to
the
whole
of
the
circle,
which
represents
the
quantity
of
sites
that
we
were
sent
for
as
suggestions.
B
Large
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
adopt
you
know.
A
large
proportion
of
them
into
the
local
plan
definitely
won't
be
a
large
proportion.
There
is
a
comparison
with
previous
plans
here
as
well.
You
know
we
with
this
is
not
a
different
process
from
what
has
happened
in
the
past.
We
had
called
for
sites
we
tested
them
and
other
sites
suggested
and
at
the
final
allocations
were
again
a
very
small
proportion
of
the
land
that
was
submitted
to
us
at
those
early
stages
and
published
at
those
early
stages
as
well.
B
Just
on
the
call
for
green
sites.
Again,
anybody
could
send
and
land
just
like
with
the
development
sites.
Anybody
can
suggest
anything,
so
we
did
have
a
really
wide
range
of
sites.
If
this
map
looks
familiar,
that's
because
somebody
did
actually
suggest
the
whole
of
the
cambridge
green
belt
as
a
potential
site
for
green
infrastructure.
B
Someone
else
put
in
cambridge
airport
someone
the
cambridge
great
park
concept,
which
you
may
know
about
from
some
local
stakeholders
who
are
interested
in
green
spaces.
That
was
also
submitted
a
bit
like
with
the
call
for
development
sites.
These
aren't
the
only
sites
we
consider
for
expanding
green
infrastructure.
B
Far
from
it,
we've
had
a
green
infrastructure,
evidence-based
study,
which
is
ongoing
at
the
moment,
and
that
has
been
asking
many
community
groups
as
well
over
the
summer
about
where
agreement
structure
in
their
areas
should
be
protected,
expanded
prioritized
so
just
as
we
do
look
for
other
sources
of
development
land
that
haven't
been
looked
for
other
green
sites
and
we
consult
our
partners.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
green
green
networks,
different
green
networks
and
the
different
green
agencies
involved
with
green
infrastructure.
We
ask
their
views
as
well
about
that.
B
B
As
we
talked
about,
it
is
evidence-led.
It
is
about
developing
the
right
strategy
and
then
finding
the
sites
that
fit
and
when
we
consult
we'll
be
saying
to
you.
Firstly,
do
you
think
we've
got
the
right
strategy?
Do
you
think
we're
right
about
how
we've
interpreted
the
evidence
and,
secondly,
are
they
the
right
sites?
Do
you
agree
that
those
sites
fit
that
strategy?
B
E
Thanks
yeah,
so
all
the
sites
will
be
thoroughly
tested
and
we'll
be
looking
to
see
if
they
are
suitable
available
and
deliverable
we'll
be
testing
them
against.
Well,
all
the
environmental
issues
you'd
expect
us
to
be
looking
at
so,
for
example,
are
they
at
flood
risk?
What
would
be
the
landscape
impact
and
so
on,
so
that
evidence
base
will
very
much
look
at
the
real
details
around
those
sites
before
we
make
any
decision,
we'll
also
be
looking
at
how
those
sites
fit
in,
let's
say,
with
the
overall
strategy
of
the
plan.
E
E
E
When
they
go
to
our
members,
they
will
be
published
online,
so
they
will
be
available
to
view,
so
anyone
can
read
them
we're
looking
to
hold
some
more
stakeholder
workshops.
As
I
mentioned,
we
held
some
workshops
before
we
moved
on
to
the
first
conversation,
consultation
with
our
parishes
and
with
local
stakeholders.
E
You
know
groups
like
the
environment
agency,
nashville
england,
so
on
all
the
groups
you
expect
to
engage
with
last
time
around.
I
have
to
say
that
was
large
rooms
filled
with
dozens
and
dozens
of
people,
and
I
suspect
the
challenge
we're
going
to
have
in
planning
those
events
later
this
year
is
how
we
do
it
online,
but
I
think
we're
becoming
fairly
adept
with
working
online,
so
I'm
sure
we'll
find
a
way
around
it
and
again.
The
next
big
step
would
be
our
full
public
consultation
on
preferred
options.
E
A
Thanks
very
much
john
and
I
think
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
take
some
questions
now,
hopefully,
that
the
presentation
has
given
you
a
bit
of
clarity
about
what
it
is,
we're
talking
about
and
answer
some
of
your
questions
already,
I
think,
apologies
for
a
bit
of
poor
audio.
There
hannah's
got
some
audio
issues.
A
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
noticed
in
not
having
some
halls
to
be
doing
on
consultation
workshops
in
is
that
we
all
need
to
have
very,
very
good
broadband
width,
so
certainly
something
we
should
be
planning
for
right
and
I
think
I'll
take
some
questions
from
the
beginning,
we're
trying
to
say
we're
trying
to
get
through
them
all
and
keep
them
coming.
There's
quite
a
lot
of
you
on
tend
to
start
with
to
keep
them
coming.
A
D
Yes,
in
shorts,
we
are
still
in
fighting
comments.
Part
of
the
reason
of
publishing
the
information
in
the
way
that
we
have
done
is
to
reflect
the
we've
started,
the
corporate
science
in
the
early
part
of
last
year.
So
there's
there's
been
quite
a
lot
of
time
since
then,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
before
we
get
into
the
real
nitty-gritty
details
of
assessing
these
sites,
we've
got
the
most
up-to-date
information
to
hand
and
while
we
said
we
wanted
well,
we
closed
the
conversation
or
the
call
for
sites
for
news
sites.
C
All
can
I
just
paul:
can
I
decide
just
to
be
clear
what
we're
talking
about
is
being
making
sure
we've
got
a
factual
information
from
from
people
on
those
sites.
This
isn't
a
public
consultation
at
this
stage
on
the
sites
we've
received,
that
will
come
further
down
the
line
once
we've
undertaken
assessments
and
when
we
consult
on
the
preferred
option
next
year,
just
in
case
that
wasn't
entirely
clear,
I
thought
it
was
perhaps
worth
emphasizing.
A
Thank
you,
caroline
yeah,
absolutely
it's
worth
emphasizing.
This
is
just
a
bit
of
a
data
release
and
we're
just
publishing
some
of
our
data
now
at
the
moment
and
okay.
So
what
is
the
overall
development
strategy
that
informed
decision
making
on
the
suitability
of
science?
Is
there
an
agreed
development
hierarchy?
I
think
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
you
for
that.
One
carolina.
C
Thanks
paul
well
the
short
answer:
that
is:
no.
There
isn't
a
agreed
strategy
at
this
point.
So,
each
time
you
prepare
a
new
plan,
you
you
look
afresh
at
the
appropriate
approach
to
planning
for
your
development
needs
and
that's
both
the
amount
of
development
and
where
you
how
you
distribute
that
development.
C
So
obviously
we
have
adopted
plans,
and
that
gives
us
a
starting
point
to
assess,
but
we
will
be
looking
afresh,
taking
account
of
all
the
factors
that
are
important
today
as
we're
preparing
this
plan
and
into
the
future
in
identifying
what's
the
most
appropriate
development
strategy
and,
as
we
said
in
the
presentation,
we're
looking
at
a
range
of
different
strategy
options
and
what
would
be
the
right
hierarchy
of
development
within
that.
So
this
time
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
we
have
a.
C
A
Thank
you,
caroline.
So
I'm
going
to
take
some
questions
that
were
put
at
the
beginning.
So
a
couple
of
process
questions
can
we
sign
up
to
email
updates
from
on
the
local
plan
and
hannah's
nodding
our
heads?
I
think
you
can
sign
up
to
email
updates
for
everything,
that's
happening
as
we
as
we're
moving
things
through
so
say.
A
When
we
sort
of
five
minutes
towards
the
end
of
this
session,
we
will
put
up
all
of
the
channels
that
you
can
get
hold
us
on
and
then
you'll
be
able
to
get
into
that
website
and
sign
up
for
those
email
updates
there
and
again
evidence-based
studies
are
being
commissioned
for
the
joint
local
plan
advisory
group
meeting
on
october.
So
the
evidence
bases
that
we've
commissioned
have
been
commissioned
for
some
time
now,
some
longer
than
others,
because
we've
asked
our
consultants
to
be
doing
quite
a
lot
of
work.
A
E
I
think
there's
more
than
10,
so
the
plan
would
likely
be
supported
by
a
number
of
states.
We
did
publish
a
list.
Actually
it's
not
so
convenient
available.
We
published
a
list
to
our
members
when
we
went
to
them
in
june,
so
it
was
list
on
our
cabinet
agenda
on
our
june
paper.
Perhaps
we
can
link
to
that
on.
E
Our
frequently
asked
questions
so
that
there's
a
there's,
a
list
of
studies
where
commissioning,
there's
there'll
also
be
topic
papers
so,
for
example,
on
housing
on
employment
and
so
on,
we'll
put
together
a
topic
paper
saying
the
issues
we've
looked
at
what
our
requirements
are
to
respond
to
nationally
the
options
we've
considered
and
setting
out
really.
Why
we'll
be
choosing
the
approach?
We're
choosing
so
they'll
accompany
the
preferred
options
stage
next
year.
A
Thanks
john
and
then
to
pick
that
last
question
up
that
was
related
to
these
is
the:
how
can
we
get
more
details
of
how
the
technical
workshops
will
work?
Will
they
include
workshops
per
topic
and
who
will
get
an
invitation?
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
questions
around
that,
so
we're
kind
of,
as
john
said
we're
looking
at
the
logistics
of
these.
Now
they
aren't
consultations.
They
are
essentially
just
some
workshops
to
talk
about
some
of
the
stuff
that
we've
already
just
mentioned.
A
Now
we
will
be
probably
running
them
for
the
same
people
who
got
invited
to
our
stakeholder
workshops.
I
think
it
was
at
the
back
end
of
last
summer,
so
the
initial
ones,
just
before
the
issues
and
options,
consultation
itself,
as
we've
mentioned,
the
logistics
are
slightly
changed
now
in
terms
of
how
we
run
these.
So,
although
there's
some
good
stuff
in
what
we
can
do
online
we're
going
to
have
to
think
very
carefully
about
exactly
how
we
have
these.
A
You
know
we'll
manifest
themselves,
possibly
as
webinars,
but
we
will
put
all
the
details
up
and
we'll
post
if
you
do
sign
up
for
updates
on
the
website
and
I'm
sure
that
we
can
arrange
for
that.
You
know
for
you
to
have
updates
on
how
to
access
those
and
you'll
get
invited
through
for
those
of
you
who
will
be
invited
to
them.
A
C
C
We
will,
though,
need
to
look
at
what
are
the
reasonable
options
available
to
us
and
there's
a
wide
range
of
those,
as
you
saw
in
the
presentation,
everything
from
identifying
within
cambridge
building
on
the
edge
of
cambridge
new
settlements,
villages
along
public
transport
corridors,
so
there's
a
range
of
different
ways.
We
could
distribute
the
the
growth
that
we'll
need
to
plan
for,
and
we
will
have
to
look
at
this
early
stage
on
whether
there
are
any
exceptional
circumstances.
That's
the
national
test.
C
It
is
a
high
bar
that
would
have
to
be
met,
but
at
this
stage
we
can't
say
that
there
won't
be
any
development
in
the
green
belt.
We
have
to
go
through
the
process
of
looking
at
reasonable
options
and
working
out
what
the
most
appropriate
strategy
is,
and
that's
a
really
important
part
of
the
process
that
we
have
an
open
mind
at
the
beginning
of
the
process
and
work
that
through
we
recognize
the
importance
of
green
belt.
Though,
and
obviously
that
will
play
into
our
considerations.
B
I
think
it's
just
worth
saying:
we
asked
a
question
in
the
first
conversation,
specifically
in
fact
a
couple
of
questions
about
greenbelt
issues
in
general,
so
those
will
also
help
inform
the
view
that
we
take.
So,
I
think,
there's
some
really
useful
and
interesting
points
raised
there
around
the
whole
range
of
green
belt
issues,
not
just
around
climate,
but
biodiversity
and
many
other
things
as
well.
A
Yeah
absolutely-
and
it's
obviously
being
one
of
the
major
parts
about
the
theme
for
our
local
plan
as
well.
So
you
kind
of
segue
into
that
I've
got
question
here,
it's
great
to
see
the
public
supporting
increased
tree
cover,
and
can
you
consider
setting
a
tree
canopy
cover
target
for
areas
of
new
development?
Woodland
trust
suggests
an
ambitious
target
of
30.
Now
john,
I
don't
know
whether
you
might
be
able
to
answer
that
question
so.
E
I
think
there
are
issues
we'll
certainly
be
looking
at
whether
they're
picked
up
through
the
urban
design
policies
and
whether
that
will
be
something
we
can
pick
up
in
a
future
design
guide,
for
example,
but
also
there
is.
The
plans
have
always
supported
protecting
enhancing
biodiversity
through
developments.
E
There
is
a
new
specific
requirement
coming
forth
from
government
to
achieve
net
gain
through
development.
So
it's
going
to
be
interesting
to
see
how
we
can
and
use
those
proposals
to
use
tree
cover
as
part
of
that
response
as
well.
So
it's
a
really
interesting
one
to
move
forward,
and
yes,
it's
an
important
issue
to
the
council
as
well.
A
C
Well,
I'm
not
sure
about
that
paul,
but
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
you
know
your
starting
point
would
be
that
sites
within
your
current
plans
are
likely
to
get
rolled
forward
into
the
next
plan.
But
absolutely
we
have
to
look
at
whether
they
remain
deliverable
and
whether
they
remain
suitable
in
the
context
of
our
any
new
strategy
that
we
we
identify
in
the
plan.
A
Thanks,
caroline
I've
just
seen
a
couple
of
questions
around
the
joint
local
plan
advisory
group.
So
you
can
find
all
of
the
details
because
it's
a
it's
a
public
group
you've
got
to
find
all
of
the
details
of
the
membership
of
that
group
on
either
of
the
council's
webshop
web
websites
freudian
slip
hannah.
Can
you
yeah
see
if
we
can
get
that
onto
our
own
website?
A
So
we
can
sign
post
it
at
least-
and
we
haven't
set
a
date
for
that
meeting
yet
because
we're
still
working
through
the
the
the
program
of
those
kind
of
stakeholder
workshops
and
what
we've
got
to
have
in
place
for
those.
So
that
will
be
those
two
questions
and
okay,
a
question
around
testing
sites
here,
and
this
is
obviously
going
to
be
our
pretty
much
what
we're
going
to
be
really
focused
on
doing
for
the
next
few
months,
and
so
when
testing
sites,
how
will
legal
constraints,
especially
natural
and
historical
heritage,
being
taken
into
account?
D
Okay,
so
in
terms
of
testing,
it
will
be
so
the
sites
will
be
tested
against
the
known
information
that
we've
got
and
when
we
get
to
the
point
where
we're
publishing
the
sites
and
our
assessments
of
those
we'll
publish
that,
alongside
the
methodology
that
we've
used.
So
it's
all
clear
and
transparent
in
terms
of
the
specific
criteria
that
will
be
set
out
in
that.
E
A
Yeah
absolutely
another
question
here
about
the
workshops
so
and
about
who
will
be
invited
to
them
who
will
be
invited
to
the
workshops?
How
are
you
dealing
with
the
highly
paid
lobbyists
who
are
already
contacting
local
stakeholders
to
make
their
case
and
I'm
sure
you're
all
aware
of
you
know
being
in
an
area
like
this?
A
A
B
I
could
just
comment
on
that:
yeah
apologies
to
people
who
may
get
them
more
than
once.
It
is
quite
finishly
difficult
to
manage
those
databases
for
various
gdpr
and
other
reasons.
We
have
to
have
many
lists
and
we
do
know
that
some
people
are
on
them
twice.
We
are
doing
our
best
and
we
are
trying
to
cleanse
them
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
So.
Apologies.
A
E
E
We'll
need
to
look
at
how
we,
where
we
locate
development
itself,
so
people
can
access
jobs,
services,
facilities
locally
and
not
need
to
get
in
their
car,
for
example.
So
it's
going
to
be
absolutely
key
and
we'll
begin
we'll
be
working
with
other
organizations
like
the
combined
authority
of
the
county
and
so
on,
as
they're
in
the
highways
authority
and
transport
world
as
well
to
make
sure
we're
fully
informed
about
their
role
as
well.
E
There's
a
lot
of
major
infrastructure
proposals
in
this
area,
we'll
need
to
consider
and
consider
how
how
how
developed
they
are
in
their
processes
so,
for
example,
east-west
rail
and
so
on,
and
consider
how
they
can
influence
the
plan,
but
we'll
be
looking
at
all
those
issues
as
we
go
forward.
Caroline,
you
want
to
add
anything.
I've
missed.
C
No,
I
I
think
that
really
captures
the
point.
You
know
this.
The
level
of
confidence
that
the
local
planning
authorities
need
to
have
in
big
new
planned
infrastructure
is
is
quite
high,
because
we
we
have
to
show
that
our
strategy
is
deliverable,
and
part
of
that
is
that
the
infrastructure
in
place
to
support
strategy
will
come
forward.
So
that's
obviously
something
that
we
will
have
to
have
a
very
close
eye
to,
as
as
we
go
forward
with
some
of
those
really
big
bits
of
infrastructure.
A
B
B
So
obviously,
some
of
the
sites
that
people
have
put
forward
which
are
outside
of
the
city
are
really
really
big
areas
of
you
know,
currently,
farmland
or
undeveloped,
land
and
the
kind
of
density
or
intensity
of
development
you
might
get
on
those
sites
is
much
lower
than
the
kind
of
development
you
might
get
our
intensity
development
on
the
site
in
the
city.
There
are
city
sites
and
we
actually
have
an
insect
map,
so
you
can
see
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
there's
a
pdf
inset
map.
B
E
You'd
expect
us
to
do
with
a
plan
for
cambridge
looking
at
areas
that
can
be
improved,
enhanced
and
how
we
can
meet
those
housing,
employment
and
other
needs
as
part
of
greater
cambridge.
So
it's
not
been
forgotten.
It's
merely
part
of
that
particular
mapping
and
the
sites
that
receive
through
that
process.
A
That's
great,
thank
you
very
much,
john
and
I've
got
a
question
for
hannah
loftus
here.
So
you've
actually
had
your
name
put
on
in
our
in
our
in
our
questions
and
answer.
So
it's
good
that
you're
here
to
to
answer
this
one.
So
the
question
is
hannah:
is
it
correct
that
architect
loftus,
who
is
handling
cam's
local
planning
engagement,
worked
with
this
fifth
studio
on
the
master
plan
for
the
london
thames
gateway
development
corporation?
A
The
strategy
underpinning
the
master
plan
for
this
was
one
of
creating
dense
housings
zones
by
linear
parks
and
cycling
infrastructure,
notably
fifth
studio,
have
the
cambridge
greenways
contract
and
are
working
with
cppf.
For
those
of
you
don't
know,
that's
cambridge
pass
for
present
and
future
and
wwt,
bcn
and
nt.
I
think
that's
national
trust
and
wildlife
trusts
who,
as
members
of
natural
cambridgeshire,
have
already
prior
to
prioritized
plans
for
curated
parks
within
with
cambridge
ahead
very
long
question.
I
hope
you've
got
all
of
it.
Hannah.
B
B
B
You
know
we
are
looking
at
some
of
the
best
practice
and
also
the
things
that
haven't
worked
out
well
from
other
parts
of
the
country
and
other
sites
in
the
past,
as
well
as
some
of
the
new
ideas
that
can
come
forward
from
from
thinkers
and
when
you
look
at
the
spatial
strategies
work
that
we
will
be
publishing
in
due
course
we'll
see
that
we've
definitely
taken
on
board
some
of
those
ideas.
But
of
course
we're
not
london.
B
A
Yeah
thanks
thanks
hannah,
it's
good
to
have
somebody
famous
on
the
on
the
team,
and
you
know
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
he
said
is
you
know
having
a
you
know.
The
industry
is
not
actually
as
big
as
all
of
that,
so
actually
having
and
getting
the
best
people
in
to
do
the
work
that
we'd
like
to
do
is
is
actually
you
know
you
tend
to
see
the
same
faces
about,
but
you
know
I
think,
in
terms
of
the
cppf
and
the
wildlife
trusts
and
the
national
trust
and
natural
cambridgeshire.
A
You
know
these
are
all,
as
we
said
at
the
beginning,
they're
all
stakeholders
and
you
know
they're
all
part
of
the
area
as
well,
so
we
are
talking
to
all
of
our
partners
and
stakeholders
and
residents
and
citizens
equally,
and
so
you
know
hopefully
that
clarifies
that
thanks
hannah
okay.
So,
let's
back
to
a
few
more
we've
got
six
questions
still
got
15
minutes
left,
so
it'd
be
great
to
see
some
more
questions
coming
through.
A
We
have
got
some
faqs
as
well
from
previous
sessions,
so
we'll
go
through
some
of
those
as
well,
maybe
to
jog
people's
thoughts
and
I'm
going
to
go
to
a
site
assessment
one
now.
So
how
will
sites
be
assessed
on
their
impact
on
operations
existing
neighboring
sites
industries?
So
I
think
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
we're
going
to
assess
the
sites,
but
I'm
going
to
give
that
back
to
john
just
to
clarify
on
those
particular
issues.
E
C
Yes,
I
mean,
I
think,
john
john's
answered
that
you
know
obviously
really
helpfully.
We
absolutely
take
account
of
existing
uses
in
considering
the
suitability
of
possible
news
sites
for
the
local
plan,
so
that's
absolutely
whether
they're
compatible
with
existing
uses
or
whether
that
suggests
that
they're
not
a
suitable
site
for
a
particular
use.
A
C
Yeah,
I
mean
village
development's,
always
an
interesting
one.
Isn't
it
because
our
villages
are
really
important
parts
of
our
our
communities
and
it's
how
you
ensure
the
villages,
maintain
viable,
vibrant,
lively
support,
existing
local
services
and
so
on,
but
in
a
way
that
doesn't
overload
those
services
as
well
and
recognizes
that
sometimes
moving
from
our
villages
to
jobs
or
services
elsewhere
is,
is
difficult
or
certainly
difficult
by
public
transport
and
and
maybe
requires
using
the
car
and
obviously
thinking
about
climate
change
and
sustainability.
C
A
Caroline,
that's
really
helpful:
how
will
the
benefits
and
other
ecosystem
services
and
stemming
from
the
green
belt
be
measured?
That
is
a
very
tricky
question.
I'm
not
sure
we
can
probably
fully
answer
that,
but
I'm
gonna
open
it
up
to
everybody.
So,
let's
start
with
john,
because
he's
done
a
little
bit
of
work
with
this
already.
E
So
again,
it
comes
down
to
the
evidence
base
we're
producing
and
we
are
producing
a
green
infrastructure
strategy
to
support
the
plan
and
that's
really
looking
at
what
the
opportunities
are
to
enhance
green
instruction.
By
that
I
mean
ecology,
sites
or
open
spaces
green
spaces,
and
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
see
as
well
as
as
well
as
you
know:
housing,
employment
and
other
services.
We
need
to
enhance
green
infrastructure
as
well,
so
in
that
way
there
may
be
opportunities
to
enhance
the
green
belt
when.
E
Certainly
we're
looking
at
the
impact
of
proposals
on
the
green
belt
in
quite
a
lot
of
detail,
so
we
would
hope
to
understand
the
impact
if
any
land
were
to
be
removed.
What
the
impact
on
the
green
belt
was-
and
one
of
the
studies
we'll
also
be
publishing-
is
a
green
belt
study
to
look
at
those
issues.
B
Just
I'd
actually
just
give
a
little
bit
of
a
plug,
because
we
did
talk
about
some
of
these
things
in
the
northeast
cambridge
area.
Action
plan
webinar
on
biodiversity,
which
was
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
and
we
had
dan
weaver
who's,
one
of
our
ecologists
and
and
of
various
other
people
from
across
actually
both
councils
and
the
county.
Talking
about
this,
so
they
went
into
a
bit
more
detail
about
the
measurables
and
that
kind
of
thing-
and
I
do
recommend
you
have
a
lesson
on
that.
If
you're
interested
in
that
theme.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
right
hannah
and
actually
just
to
kind
of
keep
with
that
plug.
You
know
so
we
have
run
around
about.
I
think
eight
sessions
for
the
northeast
cambridge
area
action
plan
and
some
of
those
sessions
really
did
unpack
some
of
the
specific
issues,
and
although
they
are,
you
know
specific
to
that
area,
we
had
housing
specialists,
so
we
had
our
both
our
housing
team,
so
they
really
got
into
the
detail
around
affordable
housing
and
tenure
types
those
all
of
those
are
available
on
the
website.
A
So
if
you
really
want
to
get
into
some
of
the
detail,
that's
some
of
the
experts
we've
already
had
on.
Then
then,
please,
you
know
please,
please
go
to
the
the
links
to
walk
up
in
probably
approximately
five
minutes
before
the
end
got
a
few
more
questions
coming
through.
Let's
try
and
get
through
a
few
more
of
these.
How
will
supplementary
planning
documents,
such
as
master
plans,
be
integrated
into
the
new
local
plan
and
at
what
point
in
the
process?
Would
these
be
considered
for
inclusion?
C
A
Thanks
carol,
I
mean
it
might
be
worth
mentioning.
I'm
sure
that
for
those
of
you
who
have
some
awareness
of
planning,
we
obviously
government
have
put
out
a
consultation
for
quite
some
quite
radical
changes
within
the
planning
system
coming
forward
in
the
white
paper,
which
is
open
for
consultation
until
the
end
of
october,
and
some
of
the
proposals
within
that
do
you
know,
do
approach
some
quite
very
radical
changes
to
plan
making.
A
So
you
know
we
are
currently
making
a
plan
in
the
old
system,
and-
and
we
are
also
commenting
on
that-
that
document
and
our
comments
through
the
councils
will
be-
you
know-
be
going
through
the
council
process
by
the
end
of
october,
so
you
will
be
able
to
see
them,
but
should
any
of
those
you
know,
proposals
be
put
into
place.
That
will
obviously
need
to
change
our
thinking.
A
So
much
of
public
transport
is
profit
driven
and
therefore
doesn't
support
outlying
areas
and
those
people
have
to
use
cars,
probably
think
this
is
slightly
out
of
the
remit
of
planning,
but
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
to
john,
maybe
have
a
few
comments
on
it
and
anyone
else
if
they
want
to
feed
into
him.
So.
E
E
Now
they
produce
a
local
transport
plan,
which
is
a
bit
like
our
local
plan,
but
for
transport.
Obviously-
and
you
could
have
a
look
at
that
on
their
website
and
one
of
the
things
they
are
definitely
look
at
and
they
have
policies
on,
is
the
models
and
approach
the
public
transport
provision,
franchising
models
and
so
on
for
public
transport.
So,
whilst
I
can't
get
into
that
detail,
there
is
a
lot
of
information
out
there.
If
you
go
to
their
their
website,
maybe
that's
another
one:
a
link
to
their
site.
A
Thank
you,
john.
Let
me
have
a
look
we're
getting
quite
a
few
coming
through
right
here.
Where
is
when
a
village
is
already
a
vibrant
community,
but
fully
stretched
as
far
as
amenities
and
services
are
concerned,
further
development
will
destroy
the
what
we
have.
We
came
here
to
live
as
a
village,
not
an
urban
sprawl.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
you,
you
know
village
design,
guide
expert,
so.
B
B
So
we
absolutely
don't
want
to
destroy
or
create
urban
spawn
around
villages.
That's
inappropriate,
and
it
is
a
balancing
act.
Isn't
it
between
supporting
the
villagers
that
have
services
in
the
right
place
and
do
in
fact
want
those
services
to
be
sustained,
whether
it's
shops,
schools
and
so
forth,
by
having
a
vibrant
and
a
younger
population,
often,
and
not
just
an
aging
population
and
overwhelming
it?
B
So
all
of
those
things
definitely
will
get
taken
into
account,
but
you
know
we
will
be
all
still
asking
you
at
the
consultation
stage
next
year
about
whether
you
think
our
village
strategy
is
correct.
As
caroline
has
mentioned,
it's
a
really
interesting
one.
I
think
we're
very,
very
understanding
of
how
special
the
villagers
are,
the
the
character
that
they
have
not
wanting
that
to
become
destroyed
in
any
way,
whilst
also
accepting
that
some
of
the
villages
are
sustainable
locations,
for
you
know,
for
people
to
live
with
the
services
and
so
forth.
A
Thanks
hannah,
I'm
going
to
bring
my
colleague
stephen
in
there
because
he
didn't
answer
the
question
yet
and
he
said
he's
happy
to
pick
up
one
of
our
east
west
rail.
So
can
you
outline
the
influence
that
east
west
rail
will
have
on
the
space
shuttle
and
development
strategy?
For
example,
can
the
planning
team
influence
the
location
of
stations
to
help
realize
aspirations
to
reduce
car
use
and
encourage
walking
in
cycling
or
transport
hubs.
F
Thank
you
sorry
about
that.
Well,
I
think
the
east
west,
obviously
we're
we've,
started
an
engagement
process
with
with
east
west
rail
and
we're
keen
to
understand
what
their
expectations
and
how
their
times
table
links
to
the
local
plan
and
the
spatial
strategy
timetable
at
this
moment
in
time.
Clearly,
if
there
are
to
be
new
railway
stations,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
absolutely
as
accessible
and
as
linked
in
with
existing
cycle
and
walking
infrastructure,
as
well
as
reflect
the
the
needs
of
local
places.
F
The
programming
indicated
by
east
west
rail
does
appear
to
be
slightly
longer
than
the
programme
for
the
local
plan
timetable.
But
clearly,
as
we
both
move
forward,
we
expect
to
have
to
reflect
around
what
east
westworld
provides
as
an
opportunity,
but
also
some
of
the
potential
implications
and
constraints
from
it.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
stephen.
That's
really
helpful,
so
got
around
about
three
or
four
minutes
left
so
we'll
get
through
some
of
these
these
quickly.
Let's
do
one
about
floodless.
We
haven't
talked
about
that
yet
very
much.
So
how
are
you
measuring
flood
risks,
particularly
the
west
fields,
seem
to
be
of
high
interest,
but
also
implies
significant
blood
risks.
B
Yeah
flood
is
really
important
and
that's
absolutely
something
that
every
site
gets
assessed
against
during
the
process
of
developing
the
housing,
employment,
land
availability
assessment.
I
can't
say
those
words
in
order:
it's
terrible
gila.
We
call
it
in-house,
but
that's
not
helpful
for
you
guys.
B
Flood
risk,
as
we
know,
and
with
climate
change,
is
increasingly
important
and
the
environment
agency
and
others
are.
You
know,
really
developing
this
area
of
work
in
terms
of
how
we
assess
it
and
also
what
we
look
for
in
terms
of
future
proofing
development
for
the
future.
So
you
know
when
new
development
comes
forward,
it
has
to
prove
that
it
is
not
only
safe
right
now
from
flood
risk,
but
is
also
safe
for
the
lifetime
of
that
development
into
the
future.
So
it
is
actually
quite
a
high
bar
that
is
placed
with
flood
issues.
B
Ferpas
would
need
to
show
how
they
would
make
that
safe,
and
we
would
need
to
have
confidence
in
any
defenses
that
were
coming
forward
being
actually
delivered.
It's
not
just
a
sort
of
hope
value
on
whether
or
not
we
think
defenses
or
other
measures
might
come
into
place.
We
need
to
have
a
high
degree
of
confidence
that
they
are
actually
going
to
happen.
A
Anna,
thank
you
very
much,
and
so
we
might
even
get
through
all
of
these.
So
I'm
going
to
answer
the
question.
We
had
a
similar
question
yesterday.
Apparently,
you
answered
a
question
yesterday
around
the
appointment
of
economic
consultancy
sqw
who
worked
on
cambridge
heads
spear
data
and
strategy
at
spear.
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know
is
the
cambridge
impeachment
capital
e
independent
economic
review,
it's
one
that
I
can't
say
properly
and
by
saying
you
are
also
using
cambridge
econometrics
to
assess
the
data,
but
they
too
work
closely
with
cambridge
ahead.
A
Will
there
will
there
a
review
of
this
data,
be
postcoded
the
whole
world
of
office
work
by
definition,
housing
suppliers
changed
especially
pert,
since
spear
data
was
not
peer,
reviewed.
On
what
basis
do
you
appoint
consultants?
Similar
issues
apply
to
consultant
stantec
appointed
on
the
water
cycle,
they're
working
with
developer
urban
civil
war.
How
can
this
be
independent
advice?
So
a
lot
of
things
unpack
there
in
terms
of
the
economic
data
we're
aware
our
economic
data
was
commissioned
in
a
pre-coverage
world.
We
understand
that
you
know
things
have
changed
dramatically.
A
We,
you
know,
even
now,
it's
impossible
to
say
exactly
what
will
happen.
I
don't
think
any
of
us
could
actually
make
a
view
on
that.
We
will
be
doing
further
work
with
with
our
economic
debt
and
there's
absolutely
no
doubt
about
that,
and
we
have
to
work
with
what
we
have
at
the
moment.
What
the
available
data
is
at
the
moment
and
in
terms
of
I
think
this
is
around
a
conflict
of
interest.
I
think
you
know
we
are
a
public
organization
with
a
public
body.
A
We
go
through
very
strict,
rigorous
procurement
legislation,
and
you
know
in
terms
of
plan
making.
We
have
an
examination
at
the
end
of
it
too.
So
it's
kind
of
double
robust,
really
and-
and
you
know
we
ask
our
all
of
our
consultants
to
provide
us
with
any
conflict
of
interest
they
might
have,
and
so
we
can
understand
and
manage
that.
So
you
know,
I
don't
feel
like
that.
A
We
have
any
issues
with
that
at
all,
and
you
know
most
of
the
really
good
consultants
work
on
you
know
huge
numbers
of
projects
and
have
to
manage
that
on
a
regular
basis.
So
you
know
it's
something.
That's
quite
you
know
it's
quite
normal
within
the
industry
and
you
know
we
have
to
have
independent
advice.
That's
the
bottom
line.
You
know
it's
unacceptable
for
us
not
to
have
that
in
terms
of.
B
Can
I
just
add
on
the
on
the
water
cycle
study,
because
we
know
that
that's
such
a
big
issue
we're
also
having
that
independently
reviewed
by
another
independent
academic
reviewer.
So
that's
another
level
of
check
if
you
like
on
that
particular
study,
because
we
know
that
that's
very,
very
key
for
us
to
get
right.
A
Yeah-
and
I
suppose
you
know
within
within
a
specific
industry
of
specialism
or
skill,
set,
there's
only
a
certain
number
of
experts
and
there's
certainly
only
a
certain
number
of
experts
who
have
some
local
knowledge
as
well.
So
local
knowledge
is
also
really
important
to
us
because
have
understand
local
issues.
So
you
know
you
know
those
criteria
are
important
as
well
and
we're
running
over.
A
I
think
I'll
do
one
more
question
and
then
we
will
definitely
get
the
rest
of
these
up
online
and
also
please
make
sure
that
you,
you
know
you
put
in
questions
to
you,
know,
put
in
go
and
visit
the
website
have
a
look
and
see
if
there's
anything
there,
we've
missed.
Please
give
us
your
feedback.
Let
me
have
a
quick
look.
Just
one
more
that's
been
sitting
there.
B
B
A
E
So
it's
I
think
it's
important
to
wait
and
see
what
happens,
but
we
will
need
to
understand
what
the
requirements
of
the
the
new
plan
would
be,
because
it
would
be
a
very
different
looking
plan
to
our
current
local
fans
if
their
proposals
are
taken
on
what's
in
the
paper
at
the
moment,
all
I
can
say
is:
we
will
clearly
need
to
draw
in
that
expertise.
We
have
a
lot
of
good
knowledge
and
expertise
in
house,
for
example,
on
urban
design
and
development
management,
and
I
think
the
key
change
would
be.
A
Let
us
know
what
you
think
if
you'd
be
interested
in
seeing
what
the
views
of
the
council
are
you'll
be
able
to
find
them,
probably
by
the
end
of
october,
once
we
release
that
information,
but
maybe
we
could
even
run
a
couple
of
sessions
on
you
know
on
discussing
some
of
that
and
its
wider
implications,
and
but
everything
that
we've
said
today,
I
think
we've
got
still
got
seven
questions
left,
but
we
will
pick
them
up
on
our
website
and
we'll
get
them
answered
for
you.
You
can
go
there.
A
I
think
you've
seen
the
slide
there
that
joe's
put
up,
I
would
say
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
along
and
all
of
your
questions.
I
mean
it's
been
great
to
have
such
a
level
of
interest.
Really
you
know,
we've
had
a
really
really
good
turnout,
the
last
two
days
for
these
two
sessions
and
some
really
really
good
questions,
some
really
thoughtful
questions,
and
I
hope
that
we've
gone
some
way
to
answering
some
of
those.
A
Please
also
feedback
on
the
format
of
how
we've
done
this
this
time
and
we
are
slightly
limited
with
physical
contact
now.
So
this
is
the
way
that
we
are
going
to
be
trying
to
do
things,
but
maybe
a
little
bit
more
regularly
and
a
little
bit
more
focused,
and
let
us
know
if
you
think
that's
a
good
format
and
I'd
like
to
thank
everybody
on
the
panel
here
today.